June 19, 2025 • 11 mins
After hearing our conversation about our body counts, a listener "Bruce" shares secrets behind being a swinger with his wife!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Get your head us together and we're going to start
to party and start.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Part I'm ready to party.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
The Elvis Duran After Party.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
The After Party Podcast. So the other day we were
talking about our body count. How many people have you done?
Have you been with? Have you stooped?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Do you know that?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
After we had that conversation, Jim Kerr from the other
radio station, he gets me in the hall way. He goes, Okay, Daniel,
what's your body count? I said, you know, not answering,
not happening.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Who have you banged?
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
What can we take guesses of?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
How many?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
That would be very hilarious. I really, you know, I
think that is a good idea. Let's okay, I'll tell
you what. Let's let's let's talk to our friend Bruce.
Bruce wanted to add to this conversation. Hello, Bruce good More.
I'm okay, yeah, okay, Look, we're talking about body count.
You heard us talking about this. You wanted to add
to this conversation? What is what is it you could
(01:10):
possibly add that we haven't already said about this?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Well, I joined the swinger lifestyle about three years ago,
and let's just say that the body count number has
increased significantly.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
So the.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Swinger lifestyle is that a club?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I mean maybe there's an application. I don't know. Yeah,
that's what I want to do.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
That's true. There there are swinger clubs which.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
We do frequent but we we don't call it like
a swinger club.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
It's just the lifestyle club.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Okay, well yeah, let's just keep it, you know, on
the download. So the dues.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Dues, Yes, there are really, and then you paid for
you when you get to the door as well.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay, okay, but hold on, now we got we gotta
find out where you are in this situation are you
Are you married or just connected with someone partner? No,
I am married, okay, And so what made you two
decided you wanted to become a part of the swinger lifestyle.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Actually it happened right around my birthday about three years ago,
where we went to a strip club. My wife got
a lap dance from a gorgeous woman and we drove home.
We had amazing sex that night. She had a dream
that she was with another guy and she looked across
and I was with another woman, and we were like, hey,
let's give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, that's a great way to present it. So I
had this dream and it's.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Your birthday, so you're getting you're getting your way anyway, that.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Was a great birthday that year. Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
All right, So how many years has this been going on?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Again? Three years?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Okay? And so can you estimate how many times per
each of those three years you guys have done this?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Well, we have a group of a large group of
friends we hang out with even you know, just normally,
but it's it's not as not that often.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Okay, I have a question. Yes, you're not worried that
your wife is going to find somebody who's better at
it than you.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Nope, not at all.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So the whole part of this thing each other. What's
great about this is with trust is you know when
you're doing other people because you're usually with each other,
people with each other, I guess yes. And then the
night's over and you go home and you're just with
each other.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Well, and the big thing is usually after we talk
about the night, we communicate with each other. You know
what we liked, what we didn't like, you know what
we would have done differently.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I can tell you I'm into this. Yeah, this sounds awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Moman ask Alex if he's up to this.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Again, I have that question, what's this?
Speaker 6 (04:03):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
How does it work?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Is it another couple and you guys just trade?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Do you have to give approval over the girl or
the guy? Does your wife.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Es?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
How does it work? Give me the step by step
process of you entering the room and you see a
couple go.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Well, there are actually websites as well. We have apps
where we are part of the apps. So sometimes we'll
converse with other couples there. Sometimes when we do go
to a club, we'll see a couple and we'll discuss
you know, oh, that guy's handsome, got a beautiful wife
as well.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
You know, let's go over and talk with them.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Sometimes you'll talk and you'll be like, hey, you know
you wanted to talk some more.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
We'll talk some more.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Sometimes it's like all right, it was nice meeting you,
and you just walk away. Sometimes you don't feel that
vibe with another couple.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So the dynamic is totally different between swinging with another
couple versus just bringing a third in. So you need
you're saying you need that balance of the two other people.
Is that is that right?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
You do you do? Yes? Yes, there needs to be
a balance.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Okay, you don't.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
We always said we never will, We'll never like, you know,
how can I say take one for the team?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I should say, oh, so she can never see a
really super hot guy and say to you, hey, I
want him. It has to be a couple.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
No, that's not true.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
We've she's seen oh my god, that guy is cute
fixing our furnace. So i'd be like, write them a note.
I took the note, put it in his car.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh did he come back?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
No? No, not that they.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Okay, so you know we talked.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Then that's the openness of this relationship.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
It's like you have the trust. It's like, tell me
your fantasies. Where you're living out fantasies in this world.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Wow, I got to go back to something you said,
am I deaf? You found a guy that was cute
and he fit in your furnace. That's a whole new level.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So it's it's swinging, but also sort of just an
open relationship because you said you're never going to take
one for the team, which I assume means you're not
going to hook up with a woman you're not interested
in just because she's interested in the guy. But you
guys can freely do what you want to as long
as you tell each other.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
No, no, no. We actually some couples do that. Each
couple has their own rules.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
One of our rules is we are in the same
room always when we're playing.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
With another couple.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Okay, and it must we don't go on separate date.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Okay, sounding better by the moment.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And so in the last three years, how much has
your number gone up? And is that the same number
as your wife?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I think her number has gone up a little bit more,
but my number has gone from three to.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
About sixteen seven. I think seventeen.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Now okay, wow, okay, let's get scary.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I think one night it went up five and one
night one.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Night wad alright, alright, my mind is made.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
I just want to know you guys have to like
So if you like one the woman from one couple,
can she like the guy from another couple? Or did
it have to be the same couple every time? Like
the same couple? Like you you both?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah, what, we've usually gone the same couple. But like
I said, we have like a group of friends, so
a lot of times it'll just be like our large
group of friends. In one room, so it'll be like
different couples altogether.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait, so how many in
one room at one time?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Ever? We've had twelve people.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I love this all right, So it's like it's like
a convention. So you can say that, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So is it true then all these things that hear
about how to spot a swinger in public, the upside
down pineapple or you know, Adirondack chair, are these things true?
Speaker 6 (08:07):
The upside down pineapple? For sure?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
I mean, we've got in a different state and flip
that pineapple upside down to see if you know we've
got anybody interested?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Love this?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Bruce. It sounds like you you really are not. Not
only are we intrigued, but it sounds as if you
are very very proud to talk about it. You you
you like, you like pushing the scene and I'm into that.
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
It is because we've met some amazing, amazing people.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I mean, it goes beyond sex friendship, it does.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
It really does.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
We We we we hang out, just go out for dinner, sometimes,
go to each other's house, like watch a movie, go home, okay,
go to parties together, just normal vanilla stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
So that brings this question from me. Friends that you've
made through swinging versus friends you have that you don't
hang out with sexually. Is the bond and those friendships
different between the two? I mean, do you actually feel
a lot closer to the people that you're intimate with
(09:13):
versus the people who you just hang out with casually
and don have sex with.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I will actually say yes, I do feel closer with them.
And we've gone on vacations with our swinger friends and
there are fantastic vacations. It's like we keep on planning
more vacations just with our friends.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh I have another question. Okay, So say you're all
just sitting around, you're not having sex, you're all watching
a movie, but you've all done it with each other.
So if your wife decides that, you know, Larry's sitting
next to her and she's already been with him, can
she just start like making out with him or does
it have to be planned ahead of time?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Nope. We usually don't plan ahead.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
There's no expectations like, oh, we're going out with you guys,
We're gonna, you know, have sex with you guys tonight.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
No, it's like you just go you have fun. If
things get to that point. It gets to that point.
If not, you know, there's another day.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
But you're so sold.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
If she's next to Larry, she can she can kiss him,
you know, start start things up.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Because we've known each other for many years already.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Okay, so we're half that phase of you know, do
we trust them and all that stuff?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Good old Larry, we always always there. Well, look, Bruce,
thank you so much for sharing with us. This is
very very interesting. And uh, I know what I'm doing
this weekend. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get started on.
I'm gonna call Larry and turn upon it full of
the clubs. All right, thank you so much. Did you
(10:50):
have another question?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, last thing. You're very open about this life song.
You seem proud of it. Do you have any kids?
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Do they know about it?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Do they know about this?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Only one?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh, they all know.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
If one knows, they all know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And are all the kids with with your wife, Bruce,
are any of them?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Larry's No.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
To be honest, most most of the people in the
swinger lifestyle from what I've seen, are actually in their
second marriages.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
If not more.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Okay, cool, Thank you for blended cham.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Thank you so much, Bruce. It's been fabulous speaking with you,
and thank you and thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing
Larry's number with us. You take care of Bruce. Thank
you again.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
See Elvis Terran after party
Get your head us together and we're going to start
to party and start.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Part I'm ready to party.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
The Elvis Duran After Party.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
The After Party Podcast. So the other day we were
talking about our body count. How many people have you done?
Have you been with? Have you stooped?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Do you know that?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
After we had that conversation, Jim Kerr from the other
radio station, he gets me in the hall way. He goes, Okay, Daniel,
what's your body count? I said, you know, not answering,
not happening.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Who have you banged?
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
What can we take guesses of?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
How many?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
That would be very hilarious. I really, you know, I
think that is a good idea. Let's okay, I'll tell
you what. Let's let's let's talk to our friend Bruce.
Bruce wanted to add to this conversation. Hello, Bruce good More.
I'm okay, yeah, okay, Look, we're talking about body count.
You heard us talking about this. You wanted to add
to this conversation? What is what is it you could
(01:10):
possibly add that we haven't already said about this?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Well, I joined the swinger lifestyle about three years ago,
and let's just say that the body count number has
increased significantly.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
So the.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Swinger lifestyle is that a club?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I mean maybe there's an application. I don't know. Yeah,
that's what I want to do.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
That's true. There there are swinger clubs which.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
We do frequent but we we don't call it like
a swinger club.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
It's just the lifestyle club.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Okay, well yeah, let's just keep it, you know, on
the download. So the dues.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Dues, Yes, there are really, and then you paid for
you when you get to the door as well.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay, okay, but hold on, now we got we gotta
find out where you are in this situation are you
Are you married or just connected with someone partner? No,
I am married, okay, And so what made you two
decided you wanted to become a part of the swinger lifestyle.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Actually it happened right around my birthday about three years ago,
where we went to a strip club. My wife got
a lap dance from a gorgeous woman and we drove home.
We had amazing sex that night. She had a dream
that she was with another guy and she looked across
and I was with another woman, and we were like, hey,
let's give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, that's a great way to present it. So I
had this dream and it's.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Your birthday, so you're getting you're getting your way anyway, that.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Was a great birthday that year. Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
All right, So how many years has this been going on?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Again? Three years?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Okay? And so can you estimate how many times per
each of those three years you guys have done this?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Well, we have a group of a large group of
friends we hang out with even you know, just normally,
but it's it's not as not that often.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Okay, I have a question. Yes, you're not worried that
your wife is going to find somebody who's better at
it than you.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Nope, not at all.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So the whole part of this thing each other. What's
great about this is with trust is you know when
you're doing other people because you're usually with each other,
people with each other, I guess yes. And then the
night's over and you go home and you're just with
each other.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Well, and the big thing is usually after we talk
about the night, we communicate with each other. You know
what we liked, what we didn't like, you know what
we would have done differently.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I can tell you I'm into this. Yeah, this sounds awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Moman ask Alex if he's up to this.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Again, I have that question, what's this?
Speaker 6 (04:03):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
How does it work?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Is it another couple and you guys just trade?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Do you have to give approval over the girl or
the guy? Does your wife.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Es?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
How does it work? Give me the step by step
process of you entering the room and you see a
couple go.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Well, there are actually websites as well. We have apps
where we are part of the apps. So sometimes we'll
converse with other couples there. Sometimes when we do go
to a club, we'll see a couple and we'll discuss
you know, oh, that guy's handsome, got a beautiful wife
as well.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
You know, let's go over and talk with them.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Sometimes you'll talk and you'll be like, hey, you know
you wanted to talk some more.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
We'll talk some more.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Sometimes it's like all right, it was nice meeting you,
and you just walk away. Sometimes you don't feel that
vibe with another couple.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So the dynamic is totally different between swinging with another
couple versus just bringing a third in. So you need
you're saying you need that balance of the two other people.
Is that is that right?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
You do you do? Yes? Yes, there needs to be
a balance.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Okay, you don't.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
We always said we never will, We'll never like, you know,
how can I say take one for the team?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I should say, oh, so she can never see a
really super hot guy and say to you, hey, I
want him. It has to be a couple.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
No, that's not true.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
We've she's seen oh my god, that guy is cute
fixing our furnace. So i'd be like, write them a note.
I took the note, put it in his car.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh did he come back?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
No? No, not that they.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Okay, so you know we talked.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Then that's the openness of this relationship.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
It's like you have the trust. It's like, tell me
your fantasies. Where you're living out fantasies in this world.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Wow, I got to go back to something you said,
am I deaf? You found a guy that was cute
and he fit in your furnace. That's a whole new level.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So it's it's swinging, but also sort of just an
open relationship because you said you're never going to take
one for the team, which I assume means you're not
going to hook up with a woman you're not interested
in just because she's interested in the guy. But you
guys can freely do what you want to as long
as you tell each other.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
No, no, no. We actually some couples do that. Each
couple has their own rules.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
One of our rules is we are in the same
room always when we're playing.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
With another couple.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Okay, and it must we don't go on separate date.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Okay, sounding better by the moment.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And so in the last three years, how much has
your number gone up? And is that the same number
as your wife?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I think her number has gone up a little bit more,
but my number has gone from three to.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
About sixteen seven. I think seventeen.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Now okay, wow, okay, let's get scary.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I think one night it went up five and one
night one.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Night wad alright, alright, my mind is made.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
I just want to know you guys have to like
So if you like one the woman from one couple,
can she like the guy from another couple? Or did
it have to be the same couple every time? Like
the same couple? Like you you both?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah, what, we've usually gone the same couple. But like
I said, we have like a group of friends, so
a lot of times it'll just be like our large
group of friends. In one room, so it'll be like
different couples altogether.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait, so how many in
one room at one time?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Ever? We've had twelve people.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I love this all right, So it's like it's like
a convention. So you can say that, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So is it true then all these things that hear
about how to spot a swinger in public, the upside
down pineapple or you know, Adirondack chair, are these things true?
Speaker 6 (08:07):
The upside down pineapple? For sure?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
I mean, we've got in a different state and flip
that pineapple upside down to see if you know we've
got anybody interested?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Love this?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Bruce. It sounds like you you really are not. Not
only are we intrigued, but it sounds as if you
are very very proud to talk about it. You you
you like, you like pushing the scene and I'm into that.
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
It is because we've met some amazing, amazing people.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I mean, it goes beyond sex friendship, it does.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
It really does.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
We We we we hang out, just go out for dinner, sometimes,
go to each other's house, like watch a movie, go home, okay,
go to parties together, just normal vanilla stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
So that brings this question from me. Friends that you've
made through swinging versus friends you have that you don't
hang out with sexually. Is the bond and those friendships
different between the two? I mean, do you actually feel
a lot closer to the people that you're intimate with
(09:13):
versus the people who you just hang out with casually
and don have sex with.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
I will actually say yes, I do feel closer with them.
And we've gone on vacations with our swinger friends and
there are fantastic vacations. It's like we keep on planning
more vacations just with our friends.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh I have another question. Okay, So say you're all
just sitting around, you're not having sex, you're all watching
a movie, but you've all done it with each other.
So if your wife decides that, you know, Larry's sitting
next to her and she's already been with him, can
she just start like making out with him or does
it have to be planned ahead of time?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Nope. We usually don't plan ahead.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
There's no expectations like, oh, we're going out with you guys,
We're gonna, you know, have sex with you guys tonight.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
No, it's like you just go you have fun. If
things get to that point. It gets to that point.
If not, you know, there's another day.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
But you're so sold.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
If she's next to Larry, she can she can kiss him,
you know, start start things up.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Because we've known each other for many years already.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Okay, so we're half that phase of you know, do
we trust them and all that stuff?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Good old Larry, we always always there. Well, look, Bruce,
thank you so much for sharing with us. This is
very very interesting. And uh, I know what I'm doing
this weekend. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get started on.
I'm gonna call Larry and turn upon it full of
the clubs. All right, thank you so much. Did you
(10:50):
have another question?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, last thing. You're very open about this life song.
You seem proud of it. Do you have any kids?
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Do they know about it?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Do they know about this?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Only one?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh, they all know.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
If one knows, they all know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And are all the kids with with your wife, Bruce,
are any of them?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Larry's No.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
To be honest, most most of the people in the
swinger lifestyle from what I've seen, are actually in their
second marriages.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
If not more.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Okay, cool, Thank you for blended cham.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Thank you so much, Bruce. It's been fabulous speaking with you,
and thank you and thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing
Larry's number with us. You take care of Bruce. Thank
you again.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
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