June 5, 2024 • 38 mins
In episode 19, Gandhi talks with Neera Tanden, President Biden's domestic Policy Advisor, about rescheduling and reclassifying Marijuana. This entry of the Burn Book is about someone on Diamond's favorite team, and we discuss how to handle planning and caneling on major life events.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Diamond. What do you have?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh wait, how about I turn on your microphone? Professional,
go for it.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Okay, this is a and iced It's supposed to be
an oat milk brown sugar shaken espresso, but I took
the oat milk out and put non fat milk, okay,
because I'm allergic to oats and it's very strong. Okay,
I'm a few SIPs in and I feel it in
my bones already. I'm judry.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, So a couple of things. What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's sauce on the side. Thanks for joining. We have
kind of something different happening today. It's gonna be a
little I don't know if it's gonna be weird or not.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Because one our guest is outside of someone I think
we would normally talk to. It's a person from the
White House and she's joining us via zoom. So I
feel like anything could happen. It could go well, it
could go terribly wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But you were talking about your allergies, and I don't
know if we've ever really gotten into Have we gotten
into all your allergies on the episode that we did.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
With Juste you to do?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We may have.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We may but I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's like one of my go to things that everyone
makes me talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So we may have, but let's not talk about it.
Then if you die, you die. You know, A yolo
oat milk not for you. You know what I haven't
been doing lately. I don't think anybody's noticed. I stop
drinking caffeine and coffee and stuff in the morning. I
just do water now.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, I noticed that this morning, and I thought, what
a loser.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I know it's so easy because it, like man, caffeine
hits me like a fucking train.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
But I just don't do it anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I feel like I'll just save my heartbeats for other things.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Why. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I heard do you only have a certain amount of
heart beats in your life? I've probably made that up.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But still you need coffee. There is no life without coffee.
Trust me. I do it every year for lint. It's
not fun.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I can't drink black coffee. A lot of people can
drink black coffee. I like cream and sugar in it. Yeah,
and I don't know if started my day every day
with cream and sugar is really a good idea.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
No, switch it up. Do oat milk instead, if you're
not allergic to oats.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean that I know of oat milk is really good,
but it makes my mouth felt funny, so I'm like,
oh great, is it sweet? It has a sweetness to it.
It's a good alternative.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Apparently we can't eat anything that is delicious anymore because.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Everything is killing us. We're all gonna die anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Just have fun, live your life, you'll okay.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So the guest today, her name is Near Attendon, and
she works for the White House. Apparently they reached out
because they wanted to talk about how they're switching marijuana
or they're in the process of changing marijuana from a
Schedule one drug to a Schedule three drug. What does
that mean? Well, we're gonna get to it whenever she
(02:31):
gets here.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I am recording? Okay, Well let me double check before him. Goodbye?
Thank you mean it? Justin Bieber? What does he mean?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
He doesn't know if we were recording. He's looking into
the into the studio. It says in use, and we're
both talking to microphones.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Scared Jones.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Everybody that's a very scary thing to do.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Man, it would be actually kind of fun at some
point to just do an episode with him.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That man experience.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
He's Diamond's favorite.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He he pushes her to a place of darkness. Oh,
and now Andrew wants to come in. Like, Andrew doesn't
know how recording works.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Save me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
We started recording Andrew home, No, because I know you're
sticking around to do something that I want to do.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Like what.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Oh he told me? Are well I agreed to something
I didn't know about.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh, we got to talk about this, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's not a good segue. But we need to talk
about that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Andrew's here, Hi buddy, Hi, Hi Hi? Is it weird
that that there's only one microphone for you guys?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Should I move this over?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
I'm the star, So it's okay, hold on.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
A second, what I'll beat you downstairs? We need we
need to talk about how this studio works because there's
a light that says in use. And then also people
can just look in and directly see us, and everybody
stares through the glass like we're zoo animals, and then
is like are you recording? And they try to have
conversations with you through the glass.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, it's actually very weird.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yes, grab it Iman of Zoo Animals. Andrew decided to
act as one today. What do you do? Andrew canceled
on a wedding four or five days before the actual wedding,
which he r svp'd to. He said he was going.
I think it's horrible, horrific.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I agree, that's someone. Gandhi was the one that sent
the text message because I had so much anxiety over
into this.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Your anxiety is warranted at this point. No, you knew
four months that you did not want to go to
this wedding, or that you.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Wouldn't be able to go to this wedding, and instead.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Of it's not that I knew, It's just that you
know when you have a gut feeling, but it doesn't
kick in until like a week after, or like two
months after, maybe months.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
He All I have to say is the woman was
very gracious.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
She was Oh she did, and she was super nice.
And you already have dinner plans next month.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Wow, that's beautiful.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
But Gandhi appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm letting you know that if it was anyone else
like me, you would have been blocked.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Don't be then, when you got the check with the
gift in it, you would have said, oh, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
But you wouldn't have been able to respond because you
would have been blocked.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Well, I wouldn't ask you if you received my check
or my honey fund. I would have just known, and
then you would have taken my money and blocked me off.
Some weird petty stuff that you're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Well, no, it's not petty.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
She paid for your plate.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Right, sure, And I apologize, and I'm going to send
a really nice gift and also I'm sorry. But as
a bride, if you're really gonna stare at your guest
list that hard and block people week of that says
more about you than the people you're surrounding yourself with.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Okay, great.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I have to say I kind of agree with you,
Andrew what se because here's the thing, Like, weddings are
very much for the people getting married, and I think
a lot of people make themselves this like you center
of attention. Life happens to other people. It's not a
flight at you as somebody can't go. If somebody's just
like oh I just I don't feel like it. Okay,
that's a different story. But when people have like shit.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Going on in their lives. You can't make it. You
can't make it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I know someone here who didn't attend a wedding of
somebody on our show. This person just didn't show up
to the wedding. That's kind of different. But I feel
like if you can't go, you can't go.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
And it's better, in my opinion, to give notice and say, hey,
I'm not going to come. Then just day of, the
plate is paid for, the spot at the table is given,
and you just don't show up. That to me is
more of a slap in the face than coming up
with I have the flu and I can't make it. No,
that means you have a table with my number on it.
I'm on your seating chart, and now what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I would much rather you wait until the day before
and say someone you know has COVID. Because this is
the thing, is that the table is set. You usually
have two weeks before the wedding to set the table.
Your guest was to set you paid for everything. You
could have said this two weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
I understand that. And again I am putting blame on
myself for saying I fed up. I had the anxiety
over sending the text message. Thankfully, my friend is an
adult and understood.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Now I'm an adult too.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Yeah you did send the text because I was too
afraid to.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's like someone else is an adult.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
It's like people my family does it sometimes too. Maybe
it's because they're Italian, but they're like, who's going to
show up to the wake if they don't show up?
And I'm like, if you're at a wake someone is
in a casket in front of you, and you're saying,
I'm taking attendance on who's coming to the wake, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, maybe I'm Italian.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, Diamond has very grudgy tendencies. Absolutely, But my mom,
you know what she did the other day. So my
sister got married a year and a half ago. At
this point, my mom sends her a text message for
the umpteenth time, I need a list of what my
friends got you.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh that's petty, right, No.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Damn it, because I mean now, if your mom is
gonna like reach out to said friends and say, hey,
she better not I know you got this for Priya
blah blah blah, then that is petty. But moving forward
in life, I want to know what, you got my
kid for her wedding so that I could give your
kids the same caliber.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, I think that that's what she's doing. But I'm like,
oh my god. First of all, she's never gonna make
a spreadsheet and remember any of that shit. So it's
just gonna be my sister's responsibility, like when something pops
up for her to be like, how much did salence?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'll give you.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's genuinely just my mom being nosy. I don't really
think it's all that serious, but man, she needs to know.
She has really asked my sister repeatedly for this information.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Ye love that for her.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I can't wait till Diamond gets married.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Absolutely, we're making I'm gonna start my spreadsheet early.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I can't make it.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I'm sick.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I will block you, like literally, especially if you wait
until the blocked.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Let me ask you guys this.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So I have a friend who I told you guys
was getting married in a different country. So I was
going there, but something's changed. But I booked my ticket,
I booked my hotel. Now for whatever reason, I booked
both of them with cancelation available, just in case.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Even though.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
The wedding is pretty close. So I text him the
other day and I was like, should I do these
dates or these dates? Because I booked two tickets because
for the business class it was actually really inexpensive, which
is crazy. So I booked two tickets and I was like,
which one should I do? And he hit me back
and was like, don't book anything. The wedding is can
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I don't know. I don't know. He told me we'll
talk this week.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Maybe they like shrunk the guest list or something and
I'm just not invited anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know, but I was like, oh shit, okay,
what is going on now? Here's my thing?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Right, that happens whatever. It's not their responsibility to continue
to do something if they don't feel it in their
bones anymore. Yeah, but like this isn't a foreign country,
not a long time away. I imagine a lot of
people have booked a lot of shit to go.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well what.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
This happened? On Summerhouse this last season, Carl Lindsay was
supposed to get married in Mexico. Carl broke up with
Lindsay two months before the wedding. I don't know if
it was Carl and his Yeah, Carl and his family
still went to Mexico.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You shouldn't marry people if don't want to get married.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know, if Brandon's friend did what, I might have
told you this same thing destination wedding. It was in Mexico,
everybody came essentially a weakish or so he decided he
wasn't going through with it. He didn't tell the bride.
They went through the whole wedding. He basically faked the
whole thing. But you know, when you get married in
a foreign country, you then have to come here and
like sign all the paperwork. He was like, no, we're
(10:41):
not signing the paper and I'm not getting married.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
That's sociopathic behavior, that's what he's said.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I was like, okay, so part of me understands why
he would do that, because everybody was coming, everybody booked
their shit, everybody had a good time.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Also, like you got all the presents from.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Whatever people bought you, Like, that's crazy. But to then
like to fake the wedding and she thinks this is
the happiest day of her life. And then you guys
come home and he's like, yeah, no, So what happened
was I don't want to get married, Like what.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, is that what?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Love and hip hop? Love and hip hop? I don't
remember which. I guess love and hip hop New York.
But she he was going to jail. Mendyce's was going
to jail. They had the full blown wedding in the city,
I mean, like huge wedding film for TV and everything,
and she never mailed in the marriage license or marriage
(11:28):
certificate because guess what, she didn't want to pay child
support on his behalf.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I understand that. I totally get that. So I feel
like we already burned Andrew in the burn book.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Absolutely, he's burned.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But you know, it's cool about this.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
We should get Josh in here at some point because
this is probably not happening. That frees up all of
us for that vacation to maybe doing off the grid trip.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oh. I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Out of ten.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I was just thinking about what I should do because
all of you guys said you were available. Yeah, when
let me tell you, initially Andrew over here said he
wasn't available, and that.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Woned October. I'm in Portugal.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
No, you said, I'm buck for all the vacations. I
don't think I can do anything.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Actually, don't forget he cancels last minute. Better fucking you
may have had a vacation plan for August, but he
said never mind because he didn't feel like going just
the same way he did with this wedding.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
If Josh was in here, I feel like he would
be triggered by this conversation because he got mad at
me about a vacation thing. Not too long ago, too long,
too involved. Do you guys think Josh is ever going
to actually do his episode?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
No, he told me he was well book it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We should go get him and see what he has
to say. You think he has an intern in there?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Excellent, go disturb it it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It wasn't important.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's so important Josh, Josh, le's see if we can even.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Hear him doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
He's going to see around.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Does he come back with him?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Hi, buddy, come in here for a second.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Is this your podcast?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
This is my stupid podcast. We were seeing if you're available.
First of all, that air feels amazing. We're seeing if
you're available to do off the grid in August.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Tell me more, tell me more.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh, we know right now. You just asked me to go.
Yeah that I got chair.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And and we were debating if you're ever going to
sit down and actually do your podcast episode as discussed, what.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Do you want to talk about if we tease?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, so we actually teased in the trailer. You're in
the trailer for this show why one of my coworkers
was absent for the entire month of November, and then
we never ever got to it. So, I mean, at
some point I feel like we should cover that why
I was.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Sick for the month of November. Yeah, there's a reason,
hey know.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And the reasons one of my favorite things.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But yeah, so we were doing that, and then see
if you're going to be on the podcast, So you're
in for Off the Grid.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
My August is free. Yes, I could do it in theory.
In theory, well, yeah, where are we going? What are
we doing?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
We need to discuss it, Okay, we all need to
get on the same page.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I'm down, I'm in okay, Josh, Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
We have a lot to figure out in like two months.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yes, yeah, fuck yeah, Yesked, if you had to.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Drive, I could drive.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
D Andrew hit a mountain. Yeah, no, he really did, Josh.
It was very scary.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
He ran into a mountain.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
No, he hit a mountain with an RV?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Was it?
Speaker 6 (14:31):
I got us?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
There?
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Was it a famous mountain?
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Like? Yeah, it was in Sequoia National Park. It's a
really high up hill. It was a thirty foot RV
when I was promised to twenty foot RV. So I'm sorry,
and I drove the entire time, so you're well, wait, wait,
wait wait.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I definitely drove for a little while, but it was
freaking everyone out because I basically had to stand while
driving short but also Andrew, they told us how fast.
They tell us we can't go above seventy.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Which is, let me just say the slowest, like slow
pokes go down.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Okay, But there's a reason they said don't go above
sixty five because if you have to hit the brakes,
you have the back half of a thirty foot trailer,
more than half that continues at the same speed. Andrew
would not go under eighty five the entire time, so
I think you might have to drive.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
He almost drove off a cliff in Yosemite, like going fifty.
They have like like the falling rock signs, and you're
on like legitimately on the edge of a cliff, and
if like one wrong turn and you're you're going down
the mountain and he's through it like he's on the
way to the Jersey Shore and trying to be traffic.
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It's just insane.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
And I got us there early, so everyone is welcome again.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yah no, No, that's all you want to Josh.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Thanks so stud your episode next week, yay, I can't wait.
Josh's reasons for being out all of November are probably
my favorite thing in the world.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Well, I have to go back and do work now
as well. So hot in here, Andrew, you know you
don't work because the AC doesn't work. It's all pumping
out in there.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Maybe you could work on that while you're fake working
over your desk. What do you think he's gonna go do?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Diamond, listen to Chapel Roone.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's your new thing.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
There's potential.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You should check out abel Heart. That's my new thing.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay, okay, So back to this podcast. That's all over
the place today, which I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Let's just get to near Attendon because.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Definitely got some stuff to say which is completely unrelated
to anything we've been talking about. And that's my favorite
thing about the podcast. It's all over the map.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Cool cool, Hi, can you guys hear me.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Hello, Nira, how are you? Would you like to be
referred to as Nira? Do you want to go by
your full name? How would you like.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
To near as fine? Near as fine?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, and I describe you as Nandhi, Yes, okay, I'll
love it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
They'll call me by my lafe name. My first name's
may Thea.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
But it's very nice.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, So I am How do I announce your last name?
By the way, tand In?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
My dad totally americanized, Okay, this name.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So I didn't want to assume. I was like, is
it on the originally? Sure?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I originally Tendon? Yes, originally tend In. But like I've
just gotten with the flow of Tandon.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
We're here to talk with Nira Tandon from the White
House about the reschedulization or rescheduling I should say, of marijuana.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Hello, Yes, how are you. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm excited to get into this because I have a
million questions about how it's going to work and timeframes
and all of that. So it's a schedule one right now,
same as math, same as methanol. And you guys want
to change it to what is that where the schedule
three comes in.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yes, we're changing it to Schedule three, which is much
more like how we handle prescription drugs and strong medications
like codine and other things, but not like LSD.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
And basically what happened here is the President.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Set up a process for examining marijuana. It takes a
little while, the process takes a little while, but basically
the Department of Health and Human Services did a scientific
analysis of whether we should really have how we should
really look at marijuana, and whether marijuana really should be
like ventanyl or LSD and other really intense drugs that
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you know are can be pretty dangerous.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
And so they consulted experts.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
And did a very third view and found that marijuana
really should be Schedule three. And what that really means
is it just really shouldn't be regulated, and the federal
argument should not regulate it like it regulates.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
A drugs like LSD.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
And it may it will make it research easier, and
I'll be a little bit easier for cannabis businesses to
engage in lawful practices in their in their states. So
it has that kind of impact. It does not legal
Anyone's going to be honest with everyone, that's not that
takes Congress. But what the President is doing is really
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using his executive powers to you know, to really move
the needle.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And you know, this is a really historic action.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Okay, so it's not going to legalize things, but what
does this mean for people who are currently serving time
have been incarcerated under kind of regulations that we're dealing
with the Schedule one drug.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah, that's it. That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
And I would say most fundamentally, the President believes that
no one should be in jail for the mere possession
of marijuana, and he's really acted on that.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
So he's ensured thousands.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Of pounds thousands of pardons for people in federal prisons too,
who are in who are basically in for drug possession
or marijuana possessions specifically.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
So that's his overall approach.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Now, this this rescheduling or moving from schedule to one,
from Schedule one to get Edule three, doesn't actually impact
It doesn't actually impact sentences because sentences.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Are based on legislation.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
So President isn't able to just do that by executive action.
What he is doing is taking them, you know, really
the most sweeping executive action he can to ensure that
our federal government looks at marijuana like it should, which
is not in the same category as LSD.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So what are some of the things that researchers found
that made them, well the collectives say, hey, let's switch
this from Schedule one to Schedule three. And I'm asking
that question for a reason.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
They looked at addictiveness, impact on health, what the impact
of marijuana is on you know, people's short term and
long term health. It was a very detailed analysis, and
they basically found that it should you know, shouldn't. It
doesn't have the same impact as you know, other more
dangerous drugs.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, So then the reason I asked that question is
there's also been a lot of talk and maybe you
guys haven't even gotten to this yet, but there's so
much talk right now about psilocybin having similar impacts on health,
whether it's your mental health or just overall anxiety.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Anxiety is part of mental health.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But is psilocybin something that people are going to look
out in the future or are we taking this one
step at a time?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Where are you guys at with that?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
We are definitely taking it one step at a time,
But I'd also say it's really up to the Department
of Health and Human Services. These are scientific decisions, they're
not political decisions, and I would really defer to them
on how they're going to approach.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Other drugs in the future. I know there's a.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Wide debate about psilocybin, but I think that our view
is that experts should really look at these issues and
we defer to them and how to handle that.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Do you have their phone number if we wanted to
call them later inact?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
You know, I think it's I think it's on the internet.
I don't have enough at the top of my hand.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, we'll find it. I am very into this. I
think this is great. It's gonna hopefully have a positive
impact on a lot of things and a lot of people.
And you mentioned something earlier talking about how businesses can
operate can operate legally now, so you hear a lot
of talk about, yes, it's been legalized state to state.
Certain things have happened state to state, but federally it
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hasn't been so from what I hear, I do not
obviously know a lot about this. I'm going to ask
you the questions, how does it work. As far as
let's say I own a business, I'm making money off
of marijuana in the state of Michigan, and now I
have all of this money, but the federal banks won't
take it because federally it's illegal. How do you know
how that's working or how that will change?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean it's actually it's just a bit convoluted here.
But there's okay, a tax provision which says, so this
is a US tax law that says companies that have
drugs like Schedule one drugs that engage in schedule any
practice related to Schedule one drugs have higher taxes. They
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can't really defer their payments, they can't really take some
tax breaks that normal businesses can.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
So the the rescheduling affects.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
This affects these companies by making it you know, more
of like how they treat prescription drugs, which is just
another product. So it actually has a significant impact on
businesses that are engaged in cannabis because, you know, all
legally obviously in their in their states, because because of
federal law, they have sort of uh, federal taxes that
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they pay.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Under Schedule one that they wouldn't pay under scheduled free.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
So that is a that is an important aspect of rescheduling.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That seems very important. Everybody wants to keep a little
more money if they can, right, Yeah, So it's.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
A bit wonky and sorry to wank out, but that
that is that is like, that is a big that
is a big.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Part of this as well in terms of impact.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, absolutely. I mean you're you're the expert here. That's
why I'm asking you all the questions. How did you
get involved with this, like what is your background and
how did you get to rescheduling marijuana or talking about it?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Well, I have a job.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
My job is Domestic Policy Advisor to the President. I
have see the domestic policy counsel at the White House,
and really what that means is if there's on issues like.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Childcare or healthcare, or crime or.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Criminal justice and how we make our criminal justice system workfair,
I oversee those issues for the President. So, you know,
we look at marijuana rescheduling as and the President's approached marijuana,
which is really just to say again that the way
our country has treated marijuana has been really you know, suspects,
black and brown people are criminalized at higher rates for
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marijuana marijuana possession, and so the President has looked at
this from the perspective.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Of what we should do people's health, but he's also
looked at this from the perspective of just basic common
fairness and.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Having a criminal justice system that treats people equally. So
from both of those ones that he's really approached marijuana
policy and that's why he's part of so many people
for marijuana possession, but also wanted to look at rescheduling
to ensure that our you know, that our marijuana laws
actually reflect expertise and basically come into the twenty first century.
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So that's why I'm That's how I got engaged in this,
and I have that job for the president, and I've
been doing domestic policy work for a long time and
so it's a fun gig.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Marijuana might be more fun than some of the other
issues I have to work on. I've been happy to
do it.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So this is not something that is potentially happening. This
is definitely happening. So from correct, yes, So I.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Do want to be clear this is that this is
the beginning of the rule making process. The rule is
on its way, like we expect this will happen, but
I just want to be crystal clear that it'll be
you know, it'll be several months till it's fully implemented.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Well, I'm glad you said that, because I wanted to
know how that works. From the time that this was
conceptualized and people said, you know what, this is something
that we should absolutely do, change it from a Schedule
one to a Schedule three. How long does that process
take from the beginning to hopefully the end and it
being finalized.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Well, the President started this process in December of twenty
twenty two. And what that in that process was to
have the Department of Health and Human Services just first
examine the schedule, like whether the schedule should stay at
Schedule one or move to Schedule two or Schedule three
for marijuana. So that process took a fair amount of time.
(26:49):
It you just delivered its analysis on that basically last year,
and now the Department of Justice just issued the beginning.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Of the rule making process. So we'll go through this
rolemaking process, you know, several months. It'll take. It'll take
some time.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm sorry to report that the wheels of government sometimes
work slowly, but they.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Also work deliberately.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So our hope and expectation is that this will come out,
you know, uh, sometime in the next several months, but
that is really up to the Department of Justice, and
we don't actually control that process at the White House
at all.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So when you say you really hope and you guys
are are hopeful that this is going to happen in
the next couple of months, what is something that would
stop it from happening.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I mean, it's a it's a it's a rule for
the Department of Justice to work through. So you know,
they they could they handle that process, and you know,
it could get stemmy there. But I think everyone recognizes
that this is a high priority. And again, the data
and facts are very clear. And I also just think, look,
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I think most people get that marijuana is very different
from fetanol or LSD, and the twenty four.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Century we pies that reflect that reality.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Do we know why it was initially classified in the
same category as meth or fentinyl?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Like, where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
I mean that's decades and decades.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Old, So that came from people's conceptions, you know, twenty thirty,
forty fifty years ago. So that's you know, exactly why
we started this process and why the President thought was
really important because we should re examine There's been a
lot of science on marijuana and over the last several decades,
(28:31):
and particularly in the last decade, and h I just
really looked at that data and found that, frankly, it
made no sense for marijuana to be in Schedule one.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Are there any parts of that data and that research
that stand out to you as something that, hey, people
really need to know this, this is why we're moving
in the way that we're moving right now.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean, I think the most important part of the
data was really just a recognition that there's some pain,
there's some pain benefits, a meaning it does actually address
people's pain. There are there are some positives. I mean,
the h just didn't say like everyone should smoke marijuana.
Obviously there's some health impact they'll but it's just very
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different and that was the most important thing.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
That's very different from what's in the Schedule one.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So if you want to tell people a couple of
really important key facts about what is we're talking about
right now into two sentences, how would you boil it down?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I don't want to do it. I don't want you
to do it.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I would say, uh, this is a very this is
an important important measure. Whether I could get two centences,
but I'd say fundamentally, the President has directed a process
to ensure that scientists can research marijuana more easily and
that marijuana is more accessible, and obviously always with safety
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in mind, always.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
With safety of mind. You think there's any chance of
him coming to tell us any of this stuff too.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I'm super down with that. So but that's not, that's
above my pay grade.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So that was a very nice Probably not, but we're
still going to shoot for it. I think that this
is incredible and I definitely think it's it's important information
for people to know about. So if they want to
do their own research and come find out what you
guys are talking about, is their website, you can direct
them to to get this information.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I always direct people to the White House website. The
President announced this. There's also he did a he did
a video around this, so you know, all that is
accessible online on social media.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
But also you can just.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Go to the White House website and they'll have information.
I can send you to the Department of Justice website
that announced this, but it's it's really it's pretty walking.
So I think I think the President explains I think
it President explains it best in his video which is online.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I think it was. I think we saw it
on X. Maybe it was posted over there.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah, come on, X, is that what's.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
All the time? Okay?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And I don't even know how you say, like, did
you X something? I don't know you posted.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I know I was supposed to say, did you X
something that's here?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's a weird way to say it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But I think we'll find that audio and we'll play
it right here so that people can actually hear it
out of his mouth.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
This is monumental. Today my administration took a major step
to reclassify marijuana from a Scheduled one drug to Schedule
three drug. It's an important move toward reversing the long
standing iniquities. Today's announcement bill's on the work we've already
done to partner a record number of federal offenses for
simple possession of marijuana, and as of the actual we've
(31:27):
taken the lift parriage to housing, employment, small business loans,
and so much more for tens of thousands of Americans. Look, folks, now,
one should be in jail merely for using or possessing marijuana, period.
Far too many lives have been upended because of failed
approach to marijuana, and I'm committed to writing those wrongs.
(31:47):
You have my word on it.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Way better than me, way better than me.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Not a chance.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
We're so excited that anybody from the White House staff
wanted to talk to us, so thanks for the time
to do that.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Of course, as Superbride, I'll let everyone know it was great.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Awesome, And if you guys have other stuff you want
to talk about in the future as far as policy,
because I know you just listed off like thirty things
that you are working on. I am fascinated by this
stuff and I would love to ask you a bunch
more questions, So please feel free to reach out to
us anytime about stuff we want to have.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
The conversations great.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I love it all right, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Near a Tandon. Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Have a fabulous day, and we will maybe go look
up all these numbers that you talked about online right
now bank see ya bye. First of all, Diamond, what
were your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I love that we're rescheduling, but I don't really know
will it make a difference.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well, I mean, so that's where I got a little confused.
I thought there were going to be a lot more
answers and kind of like definitive answers about things. It
doesn't seem that that's the case. I also feel like
that was such a brief snapshot into how politics work,
which is like, hey, we're going to make this happen. Oh,
but if you want X, Y, and Z to happen
after that, that actually goes to these different departments and
they move at their own pace and we'll figure out
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how it goes. And if you need those answers, you
have to talk to them. I think it's definitely great
to reschedule from a class one, which is insane, to
classified weed as fentanyl and math. But now we're going
to move in to schedule three. And then what does
happen to all the people who are currently in jail
for this thing that is now legal in all these states?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I mean, obviously there's the presidential pardon, which is possible.
Is he going to pardon a bunch of people?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
What if he doesn't win the election?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And now all this you're doing all these things in
the last what six months? Right?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I don't know, And I don't think we're gonna get
answers from them about a lot of stuff. And I
would really like to actually see the numbers and like
the data that backs up some of the stuff that
they're saying, because it is really important if there are
health benefits to highlight, like hey, maybe we should certainly some.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Other drugs too, Yeah, like psilocybin.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
There have been so many proven studies that psilocybin is
really good for certain mental health issues. And I mean,
listen for Recreation Funness Book. I wish I'm not even
gonna I'm not joking. So I wish everybody I knew
could have one good trip in their life, just to
understand what that feels like and how it changes your thought.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's all.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I know, people are like, eh, you're pushing drugs. I am, well,
this one I am. It's a mushroom, it's outside.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Come on. I'm terrified, just because I've had bad trips
with weed.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
So I'm like, you know, a trip, damn it. Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Ask my friends that were there. That was a trip.
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I would like to hear about that. What happened.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I there were two instances. Actually, one I just felt
like I was in a daze, like that's literally my
head helping. You know, it was bad and like everything
was so loud, and I started freaking out and then
I threw up, and it was like, what the hell
is going on? And then the second time, you know
how your foot falls asleep and you feel the little
(35:03):
prickles or whatever, I felt it down my back and
I thought that girl, I thought I was gonna die. Yeah,
this is on a music festival.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That sounds terrible. Maybe somebody laced it with something, That's
what I thought.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I don't know. But everybody else was fine, and we
all smoked together, and I'm like, maybe you smoke the
seed you know you're not supposed to. And I'm like, oh, great, amazing.
Maybe I did and nobody else did.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Sure, So Diamond is out for any of the trips.
This could change off the grid drastically.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
What do you and Andrew? Actually, Andrew does it too?
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Me?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Josh and Andrew. If all three of us partake in something,
are you just gonna be our babysitter?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No, I'm gonna do what I did when you and
Andrew were looking at the stars and I got up
and I left. Absolutely, I'm leaving. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, So the last off the grid trip we took.
Andrew and I were sitting outside where we high yeah
it might have been Yeah, in this one park there
were no lights and the stars were everywhere. There were
shooting stars. Diamond had never seen one so cool. But
we're all laying on a rock. It was like Pride
Rock from the Lion King. We're laying on a rock
looking up at the sky, and Diamond all of a
sudden was like, oh, there are bugs.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I'm out. And she got up and left and she.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Had to do a little walk through like woods by herself.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I was very impressive. You actually did it in the
dark by yourself.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Out of there.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
She did not want those bugs around her. And I
gotta be honest. When we walked back in, there was
a giant one on me, and I said what I said, Andrew,
don't tell Diamond that you had to get that bug on.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You never told me this. It's been like three years. Oh,
you were right, you were right. Those bugs were terrible.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
All that to say, we still have a lot of questions.
It's good that they're gonna try and make this change.
Hopefully it will make some significant change. Who's to say
we already burned Andrew in the burn book.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Early, Oh, because I have another one.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Oh you want to burn Andrew? You want to burn
someone else?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Someone else? Okay, Aaron Rodgers, you're on my fucking list.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You know, I really hope that the Jets have a
good season. But I think that as Americas, we should
take our platforms more seriously. And I think that he
trolls a lot. And I know that he's insane in
the membrane, right, but you know, like I mean for
you too. Did you see do you know what I'm
talking I do?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Okay, what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Okay, So over the weekend this past week, last weekend,
Aaron Rodgers went to a UFC fight, and there's footage
of Trump, President Trump, former President Trump, the convict walking
past Aaron Rodgers, and he does nothing. He sees that
he's walking past him. He doesn't look entertained or anything
(37:36):
like that. And then he posts on his Instagram hours later,
maybe a day later, a photo of them shaking hands
and he's like so happy about.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It, And to me, I think he's trolling.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I don't take anything that he does outside of football seriously,
and I think that he should take his platform a
little bit more serious.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Ce is real.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
We should really be thinking about this and wondering if
if any of that has to do it. Say with
all the when they act like Ryan Garcia, Obviously there's
some other stuff happening with him, but I'm like, these
people are getting hit in the head all the time.
We need to worry about them. Okay, Aaron Rodgers, you're
in the burn book too. I don't even have my
phone open or do ask me anything. Just like the
third week, we've skipped it.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We'll be back, but dm me on Instagram at Baby
Hot Sauce. If you can find me, ask me anything, truly,
I'll go post a little thing for it. Diamond, how
can people find you?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
At Diamond? Sincere on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Love that Say bye, We'll be back, Oh byeye
Diamond. What do you have?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh wait, how about I turn on your microphone? Professional,
go for it.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Okay, this is a and iced It's supposed to be
an oat milk brown sugar shaken espresso, but I took
the oat milk out and put non fat milk, okay,
because I'm allergic to oats and it's very strong. Okay,
I'm a few SIPs in and I feel it in
my bones already. I'm judry.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, So a couple of things. What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's sauce on the side. Thanks for joining. We have
kind of something different happening today. It's gonna be a
little I don't know if it's gonna be weird or not.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Because one our guest is outside of someone I think
we would normally talk to. It's a person from the
White House and she's joining us via zoom. So I
feel like anything could happen. It could go well, it
could go terribly wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But you were talking about your allergies, and I don't
know if we've ever really gotten into Have we gotten
into all your allergies on the episode that we did.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
With Juste you to do?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
We may have.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We may but I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's like one of my go to things that everyone
makes me talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So we may have, but let's not talk about it.
Then if you die, you die. You know, A yolo
oat milk not for you. You know what I haven't
been doing lately. I don't think anybody's noticed. I stop
drinking caffeine and coffee and stuff in the morning. I
just do water now.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, I noticed that this morning, and I thought, what
a loser.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I know it's so easy because it, like man, caffeine
hits me like a fucking train.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
But I just don't do it anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I feel like I'll just save my heartbeats for other things.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Why. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I heard do you only have a certain amount of
heart beats in your life? I've probably made that up.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But still you need coffee. There is no life without coffee.
Trust me. I do it every year for lint. It's
not fun.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I can't drink black coffee. A lot of people can
drink black coffee. I like cream and sugar in it. Yeah,
and I don't know if started my day every day
with cream and sugar is really a good idea.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
No, switch it up. Do oat milk instead, if you're
not allergic to oats.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean that I know of oat milk is really good,
but it makes my mouth felt funny, so I'm like,
oh great, is it sweet? It has a sweetness to it.
It's a good alternative.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Apparently we can't eat anything that is delicious anymore because.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Everything is killing us. We're all gonna die anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Just have fun, live your life, you'll okay.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So the guest today, her name is Near Attendon, and
she works for the White House. Apparently they reached out
because they wanted to talk about how they're switching marijuana
or they're in the process of changing marijuana from a
Schedule one drug to a Schedule three drug. What does
that mean? Well, we're gonna get to it whenever she
(02:31):
gets here.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I am recording? Okay, Well let me double check before him. Goodbye?
Thank you mean it? Justin Bieber? What does he mean?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
He doesn't know if we were recording. He's looking into
the into the studio. It says in use, and we're
both talking to microphones.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Scared Jones.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Everybody that's a very scary thing to do.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Man, it would be actually kind of fun at some
point to just do an episode with him.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That man experience.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
He's Diamond's favorite.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He he pushes her to a place of darkness. Oh,
and now Andrew wants to come in. Like, Andrew doesn't
know how recording works.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Save me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
We started recording Andrew home, No, because I know you're
sticking around to do something that I want to do.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Like what.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Oh he told me? Are well I agreed to something
I didn't know about.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh, we got to talk about this, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's not a good segue. But we need to talk
about that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Andrew's here, Hi buddy, Hi, Hi Hi? Is it weird
that that there's only one microphone for you guys?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Should I move this over?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
I'm the star, So it's okay, hold on.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
A second, what I'll beat you downstairs? We need we
need to talk about how this studio works because there's
a light that says in use. And then also people
can just look in and directly see us, and everybody
stares through the glass like we're zoo animals, and then
is like are you recording? And they try to have
conversations with you through the glass.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, it's actually very weird.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yes, grab it Iman of Zoo Animals. Andrew decided to
act as one today. What do you do? Andrew canceled
on a wedding four or five days before the actual wedding,
which he r svp'd to. He said he was going.
I think it's horrible, horrific.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I agree, that's someone. Gandhi was the one that sent
the text message because I had so much anxiety over
into this.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Your anxiety is warranted at this point. No, you knew
four months that you did not want to go to
this wedding, or that you.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Wouldn't be able to go to this wedding, and instead.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Of it's not that I knew, It's just that you
know when you have a gut feeling, but it doesn't
kick in until like a week after, or like two
months after, maybe months.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
He All I have to say is the woman was
very gracious.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
She was Oh she did, and she was super nice.
And you already have dinner plans next month.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Wow, that's beautiful.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
But Gandhi appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm letting you know that if it was anyone else
like me, you would have been blocked.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Don't be then, when you got the check with the
gift in it, you would have said, oh, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
But you wouldn't have been able to respond because you
would have been blocked.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Well, I wouldn't ask you if you received my check
or my honey fund. I would have just known, and
then you would have taken my money and blocked me off.
Some weird petty stuff that you're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Well, no, it's not petty.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
She paid for your plate.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Right, sure, And I apologize, and I'm going to send
a really nice gift and also I'm sorry. But as
a bride, if you're really gonna stare at your guest
list that hard and block people week of that says
more about you than the people you're surrounding yourself with.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Okay, great.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I have to say I kind of agree with you,
Andrew what se because here's the thing, Like, weddings are
very much for the people getting married, and I think
a lot of people make themselves this like you center
of attention. Life happens to other people. It's not a
flight at you as somebody can't go. If somebody's just
like oh I just I don't feel like it. Okay,
that's a different story. But when people have like shit.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Going on in their lives. You can't make it. You
can't make it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I know someone here who didn't attend a wedding of
somebody on our show. This person just didn't show up
to the wedding. That's kind of different. But I feel
like if you can't go, you can't go.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
And it's better, in my opinion, to give notice and say, hey,
I'm not going to come. Then just day of, the
plate is paid for, the spot at the table is given,
and you just don't show up. That to me is
more of a slap in the face than coming up
with I have the flu and I can't make it. No,
that means you have a table with my number on it.
I'm on your seating chart, and now what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I would much rather you wait until the day before
and say someone you know has COVID. Because this is
the thing, is that the table is set. You usually
have two weeks before the wedding to set the table.
Your guest was to set you paid for everything. You
could have said this two weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
I understand that. And again I am putting blame on
myself for saying I fed up. I had the anxiety
over sending the text message. Thankfully, my friend is an
adult and understood.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Now I'm an adult too.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Yeah you did send the text because I was too
afraid to.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's like someone else is an adult.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
It's like people my family does it sometimes too. Maybe
it's because they're Italian, but they're like, who's going to
show up to the wake if they don't show up?
And I'm like, if you're at a wake someone is
in a casket in front of you, and you're saying,
I'm taking attendance on who's coming to the wake, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, maybe I'm Italian.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, Diamond has very grudgy tendencies. Absolutely, But my mom,
you know what she did the other day. So my
sister got married a year and a half ago. At
this point, my mom sends her a text message for
the umpteenth time, I need a list of what my
friends got you.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh that's petty, right, No.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Damn it, because I mean now, if your mom is
gonna like reach out to said friends and say, hey,
she better not I know you got this for Priya
blah blah blah, then that is petty. But moving forward
in life, I want to know what, you got my
kid for her wedding so that I could give your
kids the same caliber.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, I think that that's what she's doing. But I'm like,
oh my god. First of all, she's never gonna make
a spreadsheet and remember any of that shit. So it's
just gonna be my sister's responsibility, like when something pops
up for her to be like, how much did salence?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'll give you.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's genuinely just my mom being nosy. I don't really
think it's all that serious, but man, she needs to know.
She has really asked my sister repeatedly for this information.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Ye love that for her.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I can't wait till Diamond gets married.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Absolutely, we're making I'm gonna start my spreadsheet early.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I can't make it.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
I'm sick.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I will block you, like literally, especially if you wait
until the blocked.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Let me ask you guys this.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So I have a friend who I told you guys
was getting married in a different country. So I was
going there, but something's changed. But I booked my ticket,
I booked my hotel. Now for whatever reason, I booked
both of them with cancelation available, just in case.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Even though.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
The wedding is pretty close. So I text him the
other day and I was like, should I do these
dates or these dates? Because I booked two tickets because
for the business class it was actually really inexpensive, which
is crazy. So I booked two tickets and I was like,
which one should I do? And he hit me back
and was like, don't book anything. The wedding is can
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I don't know. I don't know. He told me we'll
talk this week.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Maybe they like shrunk the guest list or something and
I'm just not invited anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know, but I was like, oh shit, okay,
what is going on now? Here's my thing?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Right, that happens whatever. It's not their responsibility to continue
to do something if they don't feel it in their
bones anymore. Yeah, but like this isn't a foreign country,
not a long time away. I imagine a lot of
people have booked a lot of shit to go.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well what.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
This happened? On Summerhouse this last season, Carl Lindsay was
supposed to get married in Mexico. Carl broke up with
Lindsay two months before the wedding. I don't know if
it was Carl and his Yeah, Carl and his family
still went to Mexico.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You shouldn't marry people if don't want to get married.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know, if Brandon's friend did what, I might have
told you this same thing destination wedding. It was in Mexico,
everybody came essentially a weakish or so he decided he
wasn't going through with it. He didn't tell the bride.
They went through the whole wedding. He basically faked the
whole thing. But you know, when you get married in
a foreign country, you then have to come here and
like sign all the paperwork. He was like, no, we're
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not signing the paper and I'm not getting married.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
That's sociopathic behavior, that's what he's said.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I was like, okay, so part of me understands why
he would do that, because everybody was coming, everybody booked
their shit, everybody had a good time.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Also, like you got all the presents from.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Whatever people bought you, Like, that's crazy. But to then
like to fake the wedding and she thinks this is
the happiest day of her life. And then you guys
come home and he's like, yeah, no, So what happened
was I don't want to get married, Like what.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, is that what?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Love and hip hop? Love and hip hop? I don't
remember which. I guess love and hip hop New York.
But she he was going to jail. Mendyce's was going
to jail. They had the full blown wedding in the city,
I mean, like huge wedding film for TV and everything,
and she never mailed in the marriage license or marriage
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certificate because guess what, she didn't want to pay child
support on his behalf.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I understand that. I totally get that. So I feel
like we already burned Andrew in the burn book.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Absolutely, he's burned.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But you know, it's cool about this.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
We should get Josh in here at some point because
this is probably not happening. That frees up all of
us for that vacation to maybe doing off the grid trip.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oh. I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Out of ten.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I was just thinking about what I should do because
all of you guys said you were available. Yeah, when
let me tell you, initially Andrew over here said he
wasn't available, and that.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Woned October. I'm in Portugal.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
No, you said, I'm buck for all the vacations. I
don't think I can do anything.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Actually, don't forget he cancels last minute. Better fucking you
may have had a vacation plan for August, but he
said never mind because he didn't feel like going just
the same way he did with this wedding.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
If Josh was in here, I feel like he would
be triggered by this conversation because he got mad at
me about a vacation thing. Not too long ago, too long,
too involved. Do you guys think Josh is ever going
to actually do his episode?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
No, he told me he was well book it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We should go get him and see what he has
to say. You think he has an intern in there?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Excellent, go disturb it it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It wasn't important.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's so important Josh, Josh, le's see if we can even.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Hear him doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
He's going to see around.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Does he come back with him?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Hi, buddy, come in here for a second.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Is this your podcast?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
This is my stupid podcast. We were seeing if you're available.
First of all, that air feels amazing. We're seeing if
you're available to do off the grid in August.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Tell me more, tell me more.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh, we know right now. You just asked me to go.
Yeah that I got chair.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And and we were debating if you're ever going to
sit down and actually do your podcast episode as discussed, what.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Do you want to talk about if we tease?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, so we actually teased in the trailer. You're in
the trailer for this show why one of my coworkers
was absent for the entire month of November, and then
we never ever got to it. So, I mean, at
some point I feel like we should cover that why
I was.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Sick for the month of November. Yeah, there's a reason,
hey know.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And the reasons one of my favorite things.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But yeah, so we were doing that, and then see
if you're going to be on the podcast, So you're
in for Off the Grid.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
My August is free. Yes, I could do it in theory.
In theory, well, yeah, where are we going? What are
we doing?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
We need to discuss it, Okay, we all need to
get on the same page.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I'm down, I'm in okay, Josh, Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
We have a lot to figure out in like two months.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yes, yeah, fuck yeah, Yesked, if you had to.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Drive, I could drive.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
D Andrew hit a mountain. Yeah, no, he really did, Josh.
It was very scary.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
He ran into a mountain.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
No, he hit a mountain with an RV?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Was it?
Speaker 6 (14:31):
I got us?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
There?
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Was it a famous mountain?
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Like? Yeah, it was in Sequoia National Park. It's a
really high up hill. It was a thirty foot RV
when I was promised to twenty foot RV. So I'm sorry,
and I drove the entire time, so you're well, wait, wait,
wait wait.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I definitely drove for a little while, but it was
freaking everyone out because I basically had to stand while
driving short but also Andrew, they told us how fast.
They tell us we can't go above seventy.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Which is, let me just say the slowest, like slow
pokes go down.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Okay, But there's a reason they said don't go above
sixty five because if you have to hit the brakes,
you have the back half of a thirty foot trailer,
more than half that continues at the same speed. Andrew
would not go under eighty five the entire time, so
I think you might have to drive.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
He almost drove off a cliff in Yosemite, like going fifty.
They have like like the falling rock signs, and you're
on like legitimately on the edge of a cliff, and
if like one wrong turn and you're you're going down
the mountain and he's through it like he's on the
way to the Jersey Shore and trying to be traffic.
(15:39):
It's just insane.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
And I got us there early, so everyone is welcome again.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yah no, No, that's all you want to Josh.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Thanks so stud your episode next week, yay, I can't wait.
Josh's reasons for being out all of November are probably
my favorite thing in the world.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Well, I have to go back and do work now
as well. So hot in here, Andrew, you know you
don't work because the AC doesn't work. It's all pumping
out in there.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Maybe you could work on that while you're fake working
over your desk. What do you think he's gonna go do?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Diamond, listen to Chapel Roone.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's your new thing.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
There's potential.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You should check out abel Heart. That's my new thing.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay, okay, So back to this podcast. That's all over
the place today, which I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Let's just get to near Attendon because.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Definitely got some stuff to say which is completely unrelated
to anything we've been talking about. And that's my favorite
thing about the podcast. It's all over the map.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Cool cool, Hi, can you guys hear me.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Hello, Nira, how are you? Would you like to be
referred to as Nira? Do you want to go by
your full name? How would you like.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
To near as fine? Near as fine?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, and I describe you as Nandhi, Yes, okay, I'll
love it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
They'll call me by my lafe name. My first name's
may Thea.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
But it's very nice.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, So I am How do I announce your last name?
By the way, tand In?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
My dad totally americanized, Okay, this name.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So I didn't want to assume. I was like, is
it on the originally? Sure?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I originally Tendon? Yes, originally tend In. But like I've
just gotten with the flow of Tandon.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
We're here to talk with Nira Tandon from the White
House about the reschedulization or rescheduling I should say, of marijuana.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Hello, Yes, how are you. I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm excited to get into this because I have a
million questions about how it's going to work and timeframes
and all of that. So it's a schedule one right now,
same as math, same as methanol. And you guys want
to change it to what is that where the schedule
three comes in.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yes, we're changing it to Schedule three, which is much
more like how we handle prescription drugs and strong medications
like codine and other things, but not like LSD.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
And basically what happened here is the President.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Set up a process for examining marijuana. It takes a
little while, the process takes a little while, but basically
the Department of Health and Human Services did a scientific
analysis of whether we should really have how we should
really look at marijuana, and whether marijuana really should be
like ventanyl or LSD and other really intense drugs that
(18:24):
you know are can be pretty dangerous.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
And so they consulted experts.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
And did a very third view and found that marijuana
really should be Schedule three. And what that really means
is it just really shouldn't be regulated, and the federal
argument should not regulate it like it regulates.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
A drugs like LSD.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
And it may it will make it research easier, and
I'll be a little bit easier for cannabis businesses to
engage in lawful practices in their in their states. So
it has that kind of impact. It does not legal
Anyone's going to be honest with everyone, that's not that
takes Congress. But what the President is doing is really
(19:06):
using his executive powers to you know, to really move
the needle.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And you know, this is a really historic action.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Okay, so it's not going to legalize things, but what
does this mean for people who are currently serving time
have been incarcerated under kind of regulations that we're dealing
with the Schedule one drug.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah, that's it. That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
And I would say most fundamentally, the President believes that
no one should be in jail for the mere possession
of marijuana, and he's really acted on that.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
So he's ensured thousands.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Of pounds thousands of pardons for people in federal prisons too,
who are in who are basically in for drug possession
or marijuana possessions specifically.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
So that's his overall approach.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Now, this this rescheduling or moving from schedule to one,
from Schedule one to get Edule three, doesn't actually impact
It doesn't actually impact sentences because sentences.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Are based on legislation.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
So President isn't able to just do that by executive action.
What he is doing is taking them, you know, really
the most sweeping executive action he can to ensure that
our federal government looks at marijuana like it should, which
is not in the same category as LSD.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So what are some of the things that researchers found
that made them, well the collectives say, hey, let's switch
this from Schedule one to Schedule three. And I'm asking
that question for a reason.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
They looked at addictiveness, impact on health, what the impact
of marijuana is on you know, people's short term and
long term health. It was a very detailed analysis, and
they basically found that it should you know, shouldn't. It
doesn't have the same impact as you know, other more
dangerous drugs.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, So then the reason I asked that question is
there's also been a lot of talk and maybe you
guys haven't even gotten to this yet, but there's so
much talk right now about psilocybin having similar impacts on health,
whether it's your mental health or just overall anxiety.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Anxiety is part of mental health.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But is psilocybin something that people are going to look
out in the future or are we taking this one
step at a time?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Where are you guys at with that?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
We are definitely taking it one step at a time,
But I'd also say it's really up to the Department
of Health and Human Services. These are scientific decisions, they're
not political decisions, and I would really defer to them
on how they're going to approach.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Other drugs in the future. I know there's a.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Wide debate about psilocybin, but I think that our view
is that experts should really look at these issues and
we defer to them and how to handle that.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Do you have their phone number if we wanted to
call them later inact?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
You know, I think it's I think it's on the internet.
I don't have enough at the top of my hand.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, we'll find it. I am very into this. I
think this is great. It's gonna hopefully have a positive
impact on a lot of things and a lot of people.
And you mentioned something earlier talking about how businesses can
operate can operate legally now, so you hear a lot
of talk about, yes, it's been legalized state to state.
Certain things have happened state to state, but federally it
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hasn't been so from what I hear, I do not
obviously know a lot about this. I'm going to ask
you the questions, how does it work. As far as
let's say I own a business, I'm making money off
of marijuana in the state of Michigan, and now I
have all of this money, but the federal banks won't
take it because federally it's illegal. How do you know
how that's working or how that will change?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean it's actually it's just a bit convoluted here.
But there's okay, a tax provision which says, so this
is a US tax law that says companies that have
drugs like Schedule one drugs that engage in schedule any
practice related to Schedule one drugs have higher taxes. They
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can't really defer their payments, they can't really take some
tax breaks that normal businesses can.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
So the the rescheduling affects.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
This affects these companies by making it you know, more
of like how they treat prescription drugs, which is just
another product. So it actually has a significant impact on
businesses that are engaged in cannabis because, you know, all
legally obviously in their in their states, because because of
federal law, they have sort of uh, federal taxes that
(23:37):
they pay.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Under Schedule one that they wouldn't pay under scheduled free.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
So that is a that is an important aspect of rescheduling.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That seems very important. Everybody wants to keep a little
more money if they can, right, Yeah, So it's.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
A bit wonky and sorry to wank out, but that
that is that is like, that is a big that
is a big.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Part of this as well in terms of impact.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, absolutely. I mean you're you're the expert here. That's
why I'm asking you all the questions. How did you
get involved with this, like what is your background and
how did you get to rescheduling marijuana or talking about it?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Well, I have a job.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
My job is Domestic Policy Advisor to the President. I
have see the domestic policy counsel at the White House,
and really what that means is if there's on issues like.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Childcare or healthcare, or crime or.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Criminal justice and how we make our criminal justice system workfair,
I oversee those issues for the President. So, you know,
we look at marijuana rescheduling as and the President's approached marijuana,
which is really just to say again that the way
our country has treated marijuana has been really you know, suspects,
black and brown people are criminalized at higher rates for
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marijuana marijuana possession, and so the President has looked at
this from the perspective.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Of what we should do people's health, but he's also
looked at this from the perspective of just basic common
fairness and.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Having a criminal justice system that treats people equally. So
from both of those ones that he's really approached marijuana
policy and that's why he's part of so many people
for marijuana possession, but also wanted to look at rescheduling
to ensure that our you know, that our marijuana laws
actually reflect expertise and basically come into the twenty first century.
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So that's why I'm That's how I got engaged in this,
and I have that job for the president, and I've
been doing domestic policy work for a long time and
so it's a fun gig.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Marijuana might be more fun than some of the other
issues I have to work on. I've been happy to
do it.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So this is not something that is potentially happening. This
is definitely happening. So from correct, yes, So I.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Do want to be clear this is that this is
the beginning of the rule making process. The rule is
on its way, like we expect this will happen, but
I just want to be crystal clear that it'll be
you know, it'll be several months till it's fully implemented.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Well, I'm glad you said that, because I wanted to
know how that works. From the time that this was
conceptualized and people said, you know what, this is something
that we should absolutely do, change it from a Schedule
one to a Schedule three. How long does that process
take from the beginning to hopefully the end and it
being finalized.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Well, the President started this process in December of twenty
twenty two. And what that in that process was to
have the Department of Health and Human Services just first
examine the schedule, like whether the schedule should stay at
Schedule one or move to Schedule two or Schedule three
for marijuana. So that process took a fair amount of time.
(26:49):
It you just delivered its analysis on that basically last year,
and now the Department of Justice just issued the beginning.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Of the rule making process. So we'll go through this
rolemaking process, you know, several months. It'll take. It'll take
some time.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm sorry to report that the wheels of government sometimes
work slowly, but they.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Also work deliberately.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So our hope and expectation is that this will come out,
you know, uh, sometime in the next several months, but
that is really up to the Department of Justice, and
we don't actually control that process at the White House
at all.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So when you say you really hope and you guys
are are hopeful that this is going to happen in
the next couple of months, what is something that would
stop it from happening.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I mean, it's a it's a it's a rule for
the Department of Justice to work through. So you know,
they they could they handle that process, and you know,
it could get stemmy there. But I think everyone recognizes
that this is a high priority. And again, the data
and facts are very clear. And I also just think, look,
(27:51):
I think most people get that marijuana is very different
from fetanol or LSD, and the twenty four.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Century we pies that reflect that reality.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Do we know why it was initially classified in the
same category as meth or fentinyl?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Like, where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
I mean that's decades and decades.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Old, So that came from people's conceptions, you know, twenty thirty,
forty fifty years ago. So that's you know, exactly why
we started this process and why the President thought was
really important because we should re examine There's been a
lot of science on marijuana and over the last several decades,
(28:31):
and particularly in the last decade, and h I just
really looked at that data and found that, frankly, it
made no sense for marijuana to be in Schedule one.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Are there any parts of that data and that research
that stand out to you as something that, hey, people
really need to know this, this is why we're moving
in the way that we're moving right now.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean, I think the most important part of the
data was really just a recognition that there's some pain,
there's some pain benefits, a meaning it does actually address
people's pain. There are there are some positives. I mean,
the h just didn't say like everyone should smoke marijuana.
Obviously there's some health impact they'll but it's just very
(29:13):
different and that was the most important thing.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
That's very different from what's in the Schedule one.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So if you want to tell people a couple of
really important key facts about what is we're talking about
right now into two sentences, how would you boil it down?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I don't want to do it. I don't want you
to do it.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I would say, uh, this is a very this is
an important important measure. Whether I could get two centences,
but I'd say fundamentally, the President has directed a process
to ensure that scientists can research marijuana more easily and
that marijuana is more accessible, and obviously always with safety
(29:52):
in mind, always.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
With safety of mind. You think there's any chance of
him coming to tell us any of this stuff too.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I'm super down with that. So but that's not, that's
above my pay grade.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So that was a very nice Probably not, but we're
still going to shoot for it. I think that this
is incredible and I definitely think it's it's important information
for people to know about. So if they want to
do their own research and come find out what you
guys are talking about, is their website, you can direct
them to to get this information.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I always direct people to the White House website. The
President announced this. There's also he did a he did
a video around this, so you know, all that is
accessible online on social media.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
But also you can just.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Go to the White House website and they'll have information.
I can send you to the Department of Justice website
that announced this, but it's it's really it's pretty walking.
So I think I think the President explains I think
it President explains it best in his video which is online.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I think it was. I think we saw it
on X. Maybe it was posted over there.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah, come on, X, is that what's.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
All the time? Okay?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And I don't even know how you say, like, did
you X something? I don't know you posted.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I know I was supposed to say, did you X
something that's here?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's a weird way to say it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But I think we'll find that audio and we'll play
it right here so that people can actually hear it
out of his mouth.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
This is monumental. Today my administration took a major step
to reclassify marijuana from a Scheduled one drug to Schedule
three drug. It's an important move toward reversing the long
standing iniquities. Today's announcement bill's on the work we've already
done to partner a record number of federal offenses for
simple possession of marijuana, and as of the actual we've
(31:27):
taken the lift parriage to housing, employment, small business loans,
and so much more for tens of thousands of Americans. Look, folks, now,
one should be in jail merely for using or possessing marijuana, period.
Far too many lives have been upended because of failed
approach to marijuana, and I'm committed to writing those wrongs.
(31:47):
You have my word on it.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Way better than me, way better than me.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Not a chance.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
We're so excited that anybody from the White House staff
wanted to talk to us, so thanks for the time
to do that.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Of course, as Superbride, I'll let everyone know it was great.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Awesome, And if you guys have other stuff you want
to talk about in the future as far as policy,
because I know you just listed off like thirty things
that you are working on. I am fascinated by this
stuff and I would love to ask you a bunch
more questions, So please feel free to reach out to
us anytime about stuff we want to have.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
The conversations great.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I love it all right, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Near a Tandon. Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Have a fabulous day, and we will maybe go look
up all these numbers that you talked about online right
now bank see ya bye. First of all, Diamond, what
were your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I love that we're rescheduling, but I don't really know
will it make a difference.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well, I mean, so that's where I got a little confused.
I thought there were going to be a lot more
answers and kind of like definitive answers about things. It
doesn't seem that that's the case. I also feel like
that was such a brief snapshot into how politics work,
which is like, hey, we're going to make this happen. Oh,
but if you want X, Y, and Z to happen
after that, that actually goes to these different departments and
they move at their own pace and we'll figure out
(33:13):
how it goes. And if you need those answers, you
have to talk to them. I think it's definitely great
to reschedule from a class one, which is insane, to
classified weed as fentanyl and math. But now we're going
to move in to schedule three. And then what does
happen to all the people who are currently in jail
for this thing that is now legal in all these states?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I mean, obviously there's the presidential pardon, which is possible.
Is he going to pardon a bunch of people?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
What if he doesn't win the election?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And now all this you're doing all these things in
the last what six months? Right?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I don't know, And I don't think we're gonna get
answers from them about a lot of stuff. And I
would really like to actually see the numbers and like
the data that backs up some of the stuff that
they're saying, because it is really important if there are
health benefits to highlight, like hey, maybe we should certainly some.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Other drugs too, Yeah, like psilocybin.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
There have been so many proven studies that psilocybin is
really good for certain mental health issues. And I mean,
listen for Recreation Funness Book. I wish I'm not even
gonna I'm not joking. So I wish everybody I knew
could have one good trip in their life, just to
understand what that feels like and how it changes your thought.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's all.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I know, people are like, eh, you're pushing drugs. I am, well,
this one I am. It's a mushroom, it's outside.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Come on. I'm terrified, just because I've had bad trips
with weed.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
So I'm like, you know, a trip, damn it. Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Ask my friends that were there. That was a trip.
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I would like to hear about that. What happened.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I there were two instances. Actually, one I just felt
like I was in a daze, like that's literally my
head helping. You know, it was bad and like everything
was so loud, and I started freaking out and then
I threw up, and it was like, what the hell
is going on? And then the second time, you know
how your foot falls asleep and you feel the little
(35:03):
prickles or whatever, I felt it down my back and
I thought that girl, I thought I was gonna die. Yeah,
this is on a music festival.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That sounds terrible. Maybe somebody laced it with something, That's
what I thought.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I don't know. But everybody else was fine, and we
all smoked together, and I'm like, maybe you smoke the
seed you know you're not supposed to. And I'm like, oh, great, amazing.
Maybe I did and nobody else did.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Sure, So Diamond is out for any of the trips.
This could change off the grid drastically.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
What do you and Andrew? Actually, Andrew does it too?
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Me?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Josh and Andrew. If all three of us partake in something,
are you just gonna be our babysitter?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No, I'm gonna do what I did when you and
Andrew were looking at the stars and I got up
and I left. Absolutely, I'm leaving. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, So the last off the grid trip we took.
Andrew and I were sitting outside where we high yeah
it might have been Yeah, in this one park there
were no lights and the stars were everywhere. There were
shooting stars. Diamond had never seen one so cool. But
we're all laying on a rock. It was like Pride
Rock from the Lion King. We're laying on a rock
looking up at the sky, and Diamond all of a
sudden was like, oh, there are bugs.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I'm out. And she got up and left and she.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Had to do a little walk through like woods by herself.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I was very impressive. You actually did it in the
dark by yourself.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Out of there.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
She did not want those bugs around her. And I
gotta be honest. When we walked back in, there was
a giant one on me, and I said what I said, Andrew,
don't tell Diamond that you had to get that bug on.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You never told me this. It's been like three years. Oh,
you were right, you were right. Those bugs were terrible.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
All that to say, we still have a lot of questions.
It's good that they're gonna try and make this change.
Hopefully it will make some significant change. Who's to say
we already burned Andrew in the burn book.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Early, Oh, because I have another one.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Oh you want to burn Andrew? You want to burn
someone else?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Someone else? Okay, Aaron Rodgers, you're on my fucking list.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You know, I really hope that the Jets have a
good season. But I think that as Americas, we should
take our platforms more seriously. And I think that he
trolls a lot. And I know that he's insane in
the membrane, right, but you know, like I mean for
you too. Did you see do you know what I'm
talking I do?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Okay, what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Okay, So over the weekend this past week, last weekend,
Aaron Rodgers went to a UFC fight, and there's footage
of Trump, President Trump, former President Trump, the convict walking
past Aaron Rodgers, and he does nothing. He sees that
he's walking past him. He doesn't look entertained or anything
(37:36):
like that. And then he posts on his Instagram hours later,
maybe a day later, a photo of them shaking hands
and he's like so happy about.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It, And to me, I think he's trolling.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I don't take anything that he does outside of football seriously,
and I think that he should take his platform a
little bit more serious.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Ce is real.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
We should really be thinking about this and wondering if
if any of that has to do it. Say with
all the when they act like Ryan Garcia, Obviously there's
some other stuff happening with him, but I'm like, these
people are getting hit in the head all the time.
We need to worry about them. Okay, Aaron Rodgers, you're
in the burn book too. I don't even have my
phone open or do ask me anything. Just like the
third week, we've skipped it.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We'll be back, but dm me on Instagram at Baby
Hot Sauce. If you can find me, ask me anything, truly,
I'll go post a little thing for it. Diamond, how
can people find you?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
At Diamond? Sincere on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Love that Say bye, We'll be back, Oh byeye
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