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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,
we'll be talking about Billy Joel's brain disorder and why
he had to cancel all of his concerts, super glue
burns caused by a Timu product, a bizarre tech stream
between family members about burying dead children, a crypto investor
who tortured a man for weeks, and some details of
(00:40):
a really disturbing case of a woman who's vagina fell out.
All that and more on today's episode, Let's start with
Billy Joel. I like love Billy Joel.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Have you ever seen him? I feel like that would
be such a good concert.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
No, I actually would you know that? I like don't
like music really.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We know it's been really established.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I but I can listen to Billy Joel like all
the time because it's very like Calmon.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Because you're a boomer and it suthes you.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, But but like that that might be if somebody
was like, oh, we can go see Billy Joel like that,
I would consider because I also like a lot of
his songs. I so you know what I mean. There's
other people there's other people I could see live too,
like but older, like Motown or something like that. Nothing like.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's all I found about Elton John And the tickets
in Philly were like four hundred dollars worse he ever.
And I'm just like, I'm sorry, it's just like and
you're like, Elton, this.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Was nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
That would be the best show you've ever seen in
your life.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
But it's just not the same thing. Yeah, And I
just whatever. Anyway, So he apparently he canceled his concerts,
and I mean, so you know something's wrong because that's
probably a shit ton of money for all the people involved.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, and I forgot that he fell. Remember it came
out that he fell earlier this year at one of
his concerts, and then everybody was really worried. So I
guess it was connected to this brain disorder he's saying
he had.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So can you explain what it is? I'm not really
familiar with it, honestly, but it's called normal pressure hydrocephalus.
So hydrocephalous is when hydro means water, cephalis means brain,
So it just means that there's extra fluid around the brain.
So we normally have cerebral spinal fluid in our brain
and around our spinal cord, and it just means that
(02:31):
there is more production of it and it so they
say that it's normal pressure because when they take it out,
it doesn't seem to have an increased pressure even though
there's a lot more fluid in there. So it's it's
a rare diagnosis, which is why I'm not really familiar
with it. And it's also difficult to diagnose. So let
(02:53):
me tell you some of the problems that people have.
Hearing vision issues, which is a definite problem if you're
playing piano and you're doing a concert balance, so that
would explain why he fell. Sometimes you could have certain
things that could be mistaken for Parkinson's or Alzheimer's, memory problems,
(03:15):
cognitive imparent and trouble walking things like that. So sometimes
when people present with those symptoms, they show up and
they think that maybe they're having that, just because this
one is more of a rare thing. But what I
am familiar with is when some people have cases of hydrocephalus,
they put in what's called a peritoneal shunt, so they
(03:38):
put it's crazy. We used to get them in surgical
pathology all the time when they were taking them out
or replacing them. But they put this really thin tube
that accesses the fluid in the brain and it goes
all the way through your body into your abdominal cavity
and just lets all that extra fluid drain right into
your abdominal cavity where it gets absorbed. Yeah, so he did.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
They cancel all his upcoming shows for the summer. It's
unclear if he's going to perform ever again, so your
chance to see him might not be looking that good.
But it seems like this has a pretty good chance
to improve symptoms. If you do certain procedures, you're certain treatment.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yah, But I don't know if he's So if you
have it, you can get this surgery done. But sometimes
if you were misdiagnosed for a while and you you've
had it, like, you can't reverse some of the problems
that it's making. So he might not really be a
candidate for it. He might have already had the surgery, Like,
we don't know. One interesting thing is is that they
say a person that has this walks like you would
(04:38):
walk on a boat. It's interesting, right, they say, with
your body bent forward, your legs held wide apart and
feet moving as if they were glued to the deck.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Is that walk on boats like I don't. I'm having
a hard time picturing this.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Not like on a cruise ship. We shouldn't see people
like that. But if you're on a boat, that's like,
I think we're gonna see him all they that you
could feel moving and stuff like that. Then you it's
like you're trying to brace yourself from falling, so you
just stand in a certain kind of position, like a
little fishing boat or something.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think we're gonna see a lot of things we're
not prepared to see on the cruise shifts.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Just prepared. Don't worry, guys, we'll document all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh we will.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
For sure. We're gonna end up like down in the
Morgan interviewing people there or something.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I saw where the medical center was on the
med we gotta go.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'll just like paunch you in the face or something,
so we have an excuse that you need medical treatment.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You know, mo, Mom's gonna fall in the first five
hours we're on the boat with this dumb flip flop
she wears.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So she just I don't even want to talk about
my mother and her shoes, not even all the time
that her feet her and she wears like the shittiest
things ever all the time, like heels twist ankle. Like
it's just if you if you heard a person say
that their feet hurt and then they showed up at
(06:01):
your house wearing like high heel mules, would you be like,
because that's literally what happens. I have no sympathy, Like
I'm just like, yeah, that's why your feet hurt because
you're wearing high heel mules. Like that's like if problems solved,
I just diagnosed you and gave you a solution in
two seconds.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We should take bets on who's going to the medical
center first out of like all seventy. That will be the.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Fun part we're gonna have. We're gonna have to induce
a fake injury if if not so all right, So,
speaking of momm we could also talk about TIMU because
I think that most people that are my age probably
have parents that are in their sixties or seventies and
have moved on from Home Shopping Network to TIMU.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Or a brother that has moved on to TMU. Because
Louis was having like a serious problem with it. For
a second, what was he ordering?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Are you serious? You don't know this?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He was like ordering all these sunglasses and like like
rubbers and shorts and like all stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I have Devin intervention. No, Well, this is how we
knew my mom had a problem because the last thing
that she ordered or recent is she ordered like.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Those Skieople ski poles to.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Go walking in in the on the walking trail behind
her house.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We're I'm not getting an angry text after this cell
well like and.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Then she's like, oh, yeah, I returned them. They didn't
work out, And I was like, but you thought they would.
That's what's alarming. She's is that she thought you thought
that was there was a moment in your life where
you thought that that was a good idea. So now
now you're in a certain category. So this is so
this is a conversation I've had with my mom because
she's constantly coming over and giving the kids like I
(07:45):
got you this slip gloss, I got you this, I
got you that, And I'm like, Mom, don't buy my
kids that make up bullshit from TMU and give it
to them because I don't want any kind of chemicals
or anything there from Timu, because I don't believe they're tested,
even though the company says there and stuff. I just
I wouldn't trust putting anything like that, honestly. Like the clothes,
we've we've had articles about the clothes having chemicals on
(08:07):
them that are giving people problems too, but at least
you could wash them and stuff. But like cosmetic stuff,
no way they have. You know, the kids went on
not that one, one of the other ones, Sheen or
one of those places, and they're they're showing me like, look,
you could get this, you know that that cream that
that all the girls like that souljient de Gennaro stuff.
(08:27):
You know what I'm talking about. It smells like suntanlus
or whatever. They're like, you can get this on Sheen.
And I'm like, no, that's fake, and they're like it's
but but like listen, she don't give a shit. They
they make the same label and everything, they don't they
There's like all these brands. All the girls like the
clothes and this and that, and it's there's this this
brand called White Fox or something like that, and they
(08:49):
they do the same exact shirt and it says w
hte Fox with the same font and the same color everything.
There's like an eye missing and that's the kids out
is unvol it's outrageous and like the kids don't even
notice it at first, and I'm like, now all this
shit is fake. You don't want this so anyway, So
this kid gets the mom gets the kid fake nails
(09:12):
and glue from Timu for Christmas, and the kids putting
on the nails like this is like a typical thing
you would see happen. And the glue got on her
hands somehow that like spilled out onto her hands and
it got bad from there.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, this poor little twelve year old girl all thinking
about is Lily. And of course, because the girls do
their nails all the time, she's just sitting there doing
her nails, the bottle just tips over and spills on
her skin. She starts having this immediate burning sensation. So
at first her mom thinks it's just like not that
big of a deal. She had some little blisters, sends
her on her way, and then it ended up being
(09:49):
so much worse. So she ended up having these horrific,
horrific burns on her hands, and they were saying that
she'll always have these scars. She might never regain feeling
in her hands, and they had to do a skin graft.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
They had to take a skin from her leg and
graft it to her hands. So I will say that
this might not be a TEMU specific situation because any
super glue could could hurt you, right, I when the kids,
when the kids want to have those fake nails, like,
I would never let them put the glue on by
(10:23):
themselves because that would that would I just don't think
that they should be touching glue. And the mom did
complain to TIMU, and the TMU said to them, like,
your kids shouldn't be touching this, And I kind of honestly,
like I agree with that kids shouldn't be touching now glue.
It's for going on your fingernails, which is so close
(10:43):
to your skin. The glue is going to make some
type of contact with your skin. Yeah, But but like
the thing is is that so this cyano acrilely is
the chemical that's in this nail glue, right, and it
causes an exothermic reaction with whenever it's bonding it, it
gets hot and sometimes you could you could actually feel
that happening when it goes on. Right now, there's lots
(11:07):
of documented cases of this happening with like non TMU glue,
because especially like if a kid is playing with that glue,
like let's say, for example, the girls are gluing on
the nails and it drops onto their jeans or their
pants that they're wearing, or sweatpants or anything, and then
it goes through their skin. Like when that glue hits
fabricly cotton and stuff, it gets even hotter and the
(11:29):
potential for burns is even more likely. You can get
glue in your eye. We've had cases in the gross
room of people getting super glue in their eye, both
usually accidentally. Remember the one case was the the daycare
worker put the drops that thought they were putting eye
drops in the baby's eye and put the nail glue
in the baby's eye. So there, it's obviously like accidental
(11:53):
cases or whatever. But like, I don't know, I just
think that there's there's like really bad things that could
happen with that particular chemical. So I don't I don't
think it's a problem if you want to glue nails
on the kids, but I think we could an adult
should do it, just because you know, it's just like
a little bit of a stronger chemical. But yeah, this
kid had to get a skin graph, which is no joke.
(12:16):
And now she I mean, your hands are a very
sensitive part of your body and it's it's sad for her.
And other cases that I've come across, I'm gonna post
some of them in the gross Room this week of
kids that have severe burns from having access to nail glue.
They typically result in full thickness burns and they have
(12:36):
to get a skin graph. It's terrible.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
This episode is brought to you by the gross Room. So,
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Speaker 2 (12:51):
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(13:16):
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Speaker 1 (13:43):
Now, so a Walmart Santa Claus is in court after
being charged with the murder of his two children, and
evidence showed that he so excitingly texted his family about
burying the kids.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
All right, before we even talk about this story, could
we just talk about Santa Claus, Like, what about it?
I don't. The older I get, the more I'm like,
I'm I'm not into the kids in the Santa Claus situation.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well get over it, because when you're a grandmother, it's
your time to help me out all those nights that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
No, I don't mean no, I don't mean that. I
don't mean Santa like Christmas presents and stuff. No, I'm
not talking about that. Santa Claus is awesome, and you
mean like small Santa's I mean like kids sitting on
Santa Claus, fake Santa Claus, fake any Semita Claus is fake.
I guess kids sitting on Santa's lap and people that
are Santa's and I know that we know one.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well. I was gonna say, typically I agree with you
because I think everybody is a predator. But you've always
thought that since you were a child, like everybody, let
me watch to catch a predator around like six years old.
I don't know what to tell you first, it's gonna
be in my mind. So we're like.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Ten, you weren't six, okay, but that's not.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Really much better.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So but we know a Santa.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's my husband uncle, and he is genuinely the nicest
person of all times. So when I think of somebody
like him, I'm like, of course there should be Santa's
because he's like, genuinely such a nice jolly man. Yes,
there's all like problematic.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Every every single time I've been going recently, like I'm
staring at these dudes and I'm like, what is their story?
Like why do they want to do this for a living?
Why do they enjoy children sitting on their lap? Like
I don't know, I just I don't. I don't like it.
And the past couple of years, like I've I've just
kind of been like, you know what, like we're not
we don't have to do that if you don't want to.
(15:35):
I feel like a lot of parents like force their
kids to do it for themselves because kids typically like
don't really necessarily like it. They like to like go
to the mall and look at Santa from Afar, but
they don't actually want to like interact with them.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, hopefully, since I got the connect, I don't got.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
To go to the mall. Yeah, just be like can
you just like come over and whatever. But so like
I'm already like sauce of this guy because because he's
a Santa Claus at Walmart all right.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, he killed both of his kids when they were
both fourteen years old, so it was a little confusing.
So when his son was fourteen in twenty sixteen, he
ended up killing him. They just found the kid's bones,
cause of death is undetermined. And then in twenty eighteen,
he starved his fourteen year old daughter to death. And
they're going through all the evidence in this trial and
they found so not only is this Sanna involved in this,
(16:25):
but his girlfriend, his girlfriend's mother, and that woman's boyfriend.
So we were just talking last week. How it's obviously
disturbing when one person is committing crimes like this, but
then when you get like a group of people involves
what is happening. Yeah, and this guy's like going and
like letting little kids sit on his lap and smiling
when he's at home. It's starving his child child to death.
(16:48):
And so he had a fourteen year old he killed
and went missing, and like nobody like so it seems
like nobody knew the boy went missing where they were
able to cover up enough for it in sixteen, but
then when the girl went missing in twenty eighteen, that's
when somebody reported them and they went and checked the
property and then they ended up.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Finding the bodies. But so they're going through the evidence.
I just can't wrap my mind around children that are
missing and people don't know that they're missing. I just can't.
Like It's that makes it even more sad because you're
like there's no adult. Well, I guess there was some
adults around that knew it was happening, but you're like,
there's no one around this child that loves his child
(17:29):
enough to like care that that they're not that they're missing.
It's just so sad well.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It is said, because their biological mother was reportedly a
homeless person. And then you have this guy who's clearly
an abuser, and then he's somehow connected to these three
other people that are equally as evil as him. So
they're going through all this evidence in the trial. And
he texted his wife's mother saying, almost done burying Mary,
and then she replied cool, how deep? And she wrote
(17:57):
cool with an explanation point like.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
There's nothing, yeah, you're like about this? That's so that
is like so bizarre those text messages. It's also weird
that people commit crimes are like writing text messages back
and forth to each other, like did they not listen
to our show? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, I was saying this a lot with the Lori
Valo case, because there was so much via text that
they were able to like pinpoint basically when the kids
were killed because of things they were saying in their
locations and photos they were taking. And I don't know
if people I feel like maybe like in her case,
she's such a narcissist that she really thinks she won't
(18:36):
be caught and therefore it won't end up being a problem.
And I wonder if that goes through a lot of
people's minds that they genuinely believe they won't be caught
and it's not going to come up and be an issue,
or if they're just not thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, that's possible.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I don't know. It's it's very bizarre thing to do.
But obviously these people are horrible people and they all
suck and they all got charged.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
So at least there's gonna be some just this in
this case. All right, let's talk. This next case is
so disturbing as well.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So earlier this month, this tourist from Italy went over
this guy's house in New York City over a bitcoin exchange.
But now the homeowner's been arrested after he allegedly kidnapped
and tortured the tourists for weeks. I just like, I
still don't understand the bitcoin situation, like I'm not. I
can't possibly explain it because I don't understand it, and
I don't need people yelling at us that we don't.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I'm not even gonna try because I don't even understand.
I don't even understand what it is. But whatever happened,
like bitcoin or not, this guy kind of kidnapped this
guy and tied him up and tortured him for several weeks,
and he was able to finally escape and flag down
a nearby traffic person who was able to call nine
(19:50):
one one, and the investigators were just shocked when they
heard what was going on with him.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, so he told police that he escaped after agreeing
to give his bitcoin password to the guy that abducted him,
and when the guy went to go get his laptop,
that's when the victim was able to leave the home
and track down the traffic cup that was able to
call the police. So then he told investigators that he
was shocked with an electrical wire, his leg was cut
with a saw, and he was forced to smoke crack cocaine.
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And then they also recovered some really disturbing evidence at
the scene, which was chicken wire, ballistic helmets, body armor,
night vision goggles, T shirts, pictures of the victim with
the crack cocaine pipe in his mouth, and polaroids with
a firearm pointed at the victim's head.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Okay, they went out of their way to have T
shirts printed with his face on it. Yeah, like that,
like so weird.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
But who printed the t shirts, Like did they make
them on their cricket or that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I don't know. It's so weird. So listen. This story
gets even weirder because so at some part of the
story it said that there were two butlers at the
residence when this happened. So I was like, butlers, what?
So I look up the address, which was thirty eight
Prince Street in Soho.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Right, that's a really nice neighborhood, so I imagine the
house is the house nice, So it's not for sale
right now. But on Zillo, this estimate is twenty three
million dollars for this house. Eight bedrooms, ten baths, ten
thousand square feet, Like that is not what I would
be thinking in a situation like this. It and a
side note too, let me just tell you what.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The estimated mortgage payment is for that house.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Well, they said that guy was paying thirty to forty
thousand dollars a month in rent.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, because this one's saying estimated mortgage payment is one
hundred and fifty three eight hundred and eighty three dollars
a month. That's insane, which is which is insane, But
thirty thousand dollars a month is also insane. Well, of course,
I mean in New York that's probably considered a steal
for a property like that. But this thirty seven year
old crypto investor and his twenty four year old assistant
(21:56):
were both arrested for this case. I am curious now
that you're talking about the butler or like, where were they?
Did they really not notice? It's like a ditty situation.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, it is really bizarre and like so I guess
the whole motive was they were trying to steal bitcoin
from the victim, but he was there for weeks.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
This is really disturbing to think about somebody doing this,
and obviously this person had money in some capacity if
they're paying rent on this place. And people in the
neighborhood were shocked, of course because it's a pretty nice neighborhood,
but at the same time, it's naiven New York, Like
crazy shit happens anywhere you live. I just don't really
understand what was happening. Like they were trying to steal
(22:36):
money from him, Is that what was happening. Yeah, they
were trying to steal bitcoin from him, so he so
the only reason they were torturing him is because they
wanted his password and then he finally gave it up. Well,
I would say that's probably not the only reason. It
has to be more involved than that, because why wouldn't
he just give up the password after like a couple
(22:56):
hours if that was the key, and like get a
week's go outside and like change it back. I know, yeah,
I don't know, yeah, because like it's he was I
don't know, just in why crack, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
The whole thing is.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's a weird story sometimes, especially the T shirts. Well
you just hear like it's like Diddy and Jeffrey Epstein.
You just hear of these mega rich people doing this
really weird shit, and you're like, are you that bored?
You can't do anything else with your time other than
like torture and kidnap people.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It's so bizarre. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
All right. So this woman wrote an article for The
Times explaining that after giving birth, her midwife was tying
her back up when suddenly the worst thing she could
imagine happened to her.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Her vagina fell out. All right, So, so I guess
she's she had her second kid, and she was getting
she tore a little bit after she gave birth, and
they were they were sewing her back up down there,
and she said, whenever she gives birth, so this is
the second time she's giving birth. She started vomiting by afterwards,
(24:01):
which I don't really know what that's about, but like
I was telling you after you especially if you give well,
she said she had an epidural, So I don't really
know why she why that happens. And if anyone I know,
my friend Jamie listens sometimes and she delivers babies a lot,
so if that's a thing, I don't know. But the doctor,
(24:21):
so the doctor's like in between her legs, is sewing
her crotch up, and she says, I have to throw up,
and she gets the pan and she starts throwing up,
and you know, when you throw up, it's like pretty
violent on your body, like you know, you're kind of
convulsing and you can't control it sometimes, And all of
a sudden, the doctor looked up at her and was like,
your vagina fell out, and she she didn't really understand
(24:43):
what that meant. And there was this whole weird period
where she said the doctor had to push it back in,
and then she ran out of the room and a
surgeon came in and looked and was just like, yeah,
your vaginal wall caved in and it might not ever
happen again. Because she was just like, well, what do
I do in this situation? And he was just kind
of like, don't overexert yourself and like it might not
(25:04):
ever happen again. And then six weeks later she was
saying it was like the day before she was going
back for her check up after she had the baby.
She said she was just walking and put her leg
up onto a curb and then all of a sudden
that that shift just made it happen again. And she
said that she felt this like cold like clammy thing
(25:25):
pressing against her underwear in between her legs and like
a gelatinous mass she called it, which sounds I mean,
it's pretty accurate because I've seen miss Mask said the
chronic slop, And she just said she had a horrible
tugging sensation in her abdomen. And since she was going
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to the gynecologist the next day, she she showed the
gynocologists for the for the checkup, you know, and the
doctor was like, oh, you like this is a typical
story of like again, this is like the theme of
this show that women getting blown off. Right. The doctor
was like, oh, you must have overexerted yourself, and she's like, well,
I just kind of put my leg up on a
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curb to walk. I wouldn't consider that to be over
exerting myself. Weless. She has two little kids at this point, now,
you know. So they said they refer her to a
gynecologist and they said, have you ever done keegle floor exercises?
So she started doing that and like, I don't know, like,
if you're having a problem like that, I don't think
at this point that is going to help. Then she
(26:30):
said she even got that LV train or thing. So
remember we talked about that a while ago on Mother
Knows Death about the vaginal video game. That's like a
little egg shaped dildo that you put in your vadge
and like play video games with it, and it's it's
letting you know that you're definitely doing a good job
with your keegel exercises. But she was saying she had
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like all these problems, like it wouldn't recognize the device
and then she would be all the way through a
game and then it would say it was like she
wasn't doing good and stuff like that. So anyway, she
she's trying to get it addressed now and the doctors
are blowing her off essentially. So now it's been six
months and she wants to have sex with her husband,
which I think is crazy that this is a concern
(27:12):
for her that she's had to wait even six months
to have sex with her husband, right, And she said,
at first, they're having sex, and then all of a sudden,
she said that they felt like this, this like wet
gush of like what she said. She said, it was
similar to when she had a kid and like her
water broke, right, So they turned on the light and
(27:33):
thought that that he, you know, both of them were
going to be covered in blood, and it was like,
thankfully it wasn't blood, but he was covered in pea
and so was she. There was like pee all over
the place, right, and she's like, oh cool, what's that?
And he saw something like he was like disturbed. Her
husband was disturbed looking and he was like looking at
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her vagina, and she said that it looked like a
penis was like sticking out of her vagina. And she
figured out that it was probably like her bladder or
something like that, like all of her publc organs were
like coming out of her vaginal opening. So I guess
this is one of the things that we could talk
about with like because this is happening in the UK,
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and I guess they have public doctors. And then she
finally decided she was going to visit a private doctor,
and so she made up this appointment and everything, and
then they said to her, okay, well at least they
addressed it, and they said, okay, you can get this
this thing called a pesory, which they stick up inside there.
It's like a plug almost. They stick up inside the
(28:36):
vagina and kind of push it back up and it
keeps it in place. Okay, or you could get surgery.
And she was just trying to get some answers because
some people say pestori is bad, some people say surgery
is bad. And she was just trying to figure out
like what to do in case she wanted to have
more kids or whatever, because a lot of the people
were telling her like, oh, you shouldn't have more kids.
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And the reason is is because when you have the
older you get and the more children you have, it
just weakens the muscles down there. For certain people, doesn't
happen to everyone, but I think and any person that's
my age that's had a couple kids vaginally can be like, yeah,
you know, I was just talking to one of my
friends about that this weekend, Like what the I recently
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had went to the trampoline park with my kids and
like I jump on the trampoline and it's like, oh,
I peed myself. I can't do that anymore, Like it
was that, you know what I mean, Like stuff you
just don't realize that you don't have control over anymore.
But when you look at a skeleton, for example, you
see that giant hole in between where a baby's head
would fit through in a female skeleton, right, So there's
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there has to be something that holds all those organs
in because of gravity, like they just typically want to
fall down. So you have these muscles that go across it.
They're almost kind of like a basket in or weave
in across the bottom, but they're holding your organs in.
So they have like a very very serious responsibility and
if they're not strong, they could become weak. And when
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they become weak, those organs start falling out of the
whole of your skeleton and that's basically, you know, your
uterus comes out through your vagina, but other things could
come along for the ride. I like to say, like
the bladder that's attached to the front of the uterus
and the rectum that's attached to the back of the uterus,
so they can all start falling out. And it's really
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it's it's a really disturbing thing to see if you're
a woman, but it's also just uncomfortable, a lot of
pressure pain. Just think about this, like, you're a younger woman,
just had a kid, you want to have sex with
your husband, Like, this is what you have to think
about now. He's traumatized because he saw some weird thing
coming out of your badge. Like, it's just it's just terrible.
(30:48):
So she went to see this this specialist that was
supposed to talk to her about surgery, and he was like, oh,
good news, you're a candidate for surgery. And then he said, yeah,
I think you should get a labioplasty. You know, sometimes
when you have vaginal childbirth, it stretches out your labia
and it gets a little long. I'm not saying that
yours are that bad, but they could be fixed. And
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she's just like, what the fuck, I just want you
to fix my uterus. I didn't ask you about my labia,
and that's kind of where it stands. And she's just like,
you know what, like I'm done here, I'm not dealing
with this anymore. And I mean she's eventually probably gonna
get surgery for this because she can't live like this.
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Well, it's ridiculous to be blown off all this time,
you're like really being proactive about it, and then for
finally the person that takes you seriously is like, well,
while we're down there, do you want some plastic surgery?
Like f off, dude, Yeah, but not not even like
it wasn't like, oh let's do let's do your hysterectomy
and then do the labioplasty. It was like, eh, you
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don't need a hysterectomy, but you should fix these labia.
Like it it was like an either or situation and
that's it. That's just so insulting that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I don't know, and I don't I don't know how
like things are done in the UK because in US
and the pathology lab, like we get uterine prolapse all
the time as a specimen, so it's done here, like
people don't have a problem with it. Well, one thing
I took from the article that was really interesting is
she was saying it all could have been prevented if
I had a C section, but apparently you can't get
elective c sections with this healthcare system. Oh that's interesting. See, like,
(32:27):
I don't if you seriously have a problem with with prolapse,
then I don't see a C section as being elective.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, but I think, like, but I've been suggested to
the midwife because of her first trauma with her first childbirth,
and they were like, well, why would you want to
do that, Like they advise against it. Listen, I think
I think that they overdo it here. So I don't
necessarily have a problem with it, because there's way too
many people getting c sections that shouldn't be and the
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risks associated with that are so much greater than vaginal childbirth,
So I could see why. I don't know if they
need to be that strict about it, because I do
think she has a medical problem that would indicate that
she should be a candidate for it. But yeah, I
mean that's definitely a concern for sure. But I mean,
people get it just because they just don't want. You know,
(33:23):
there's all different reasons why people get it, and it's
a it's a major surgery. It's a very major surgery
that people don't really think about. Yeah, So where she
stands right now is she said she has good days
and she has bad days, and that she's hopeful that
outcomes will have improved by the time she might need surgery.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
So I feel like she should get the pessary at
least because I'm pretty.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I don't know, Well, it's hard one person telling you
to get it and then another doctor's telling you not
to do it. So like she has one person telling
her what day, one person telling her another, Like it
just seems like a huge mess. Yeah, it's also typically
women getting blown off for major issues, like we can't
talk about it enough.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And if you say this out loud, you're like, this
woman never knows when her vadge and her uterus is
gonna start coming out of her vagina, Like why is
that not a huge concern for people when you're just
at a party and it happens or something like that, Like,
cause it's not. It's it's not only kind of gross
and disturbing, but it's it's physically uncomfortable. Why is that
(34:27):
not like like an emergency situation for these doctors when
they hear that this is happening, especially when you're you're
not an old person, You're still trying to have sex
and stuff. It's just it's just weird to me that
they're like, yeah, whatever, Like I don't know, it's just
so weird. No, it is.
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Always remember that science is changing every day, and the
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Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,
we'll be talking about Billy Joel's brain disorder and why
he had to cancel all of his concerts, super glue
burns caused by a Timu product, a bizarre tech stream
between family members about burying dead children, a crypto investor
who tortured a man for weeks, and some details of
(00:40):
a really disturbing case of a woman who's vagina fell out.
All that and more on today's episode, Let's start with
Billy Joel. I like love Billy Joel.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Have you ever seen him? I feel like that would
be such a good concert.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
No, I actually would you know that? I like don't
like music really.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We know it's been really established.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I but I can listen to Billy Joel like all
the time because it's very like Calmon.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Because you're a boomer and it suthes you.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, But but like that that might be if somebody
was like, oh, we can go see Billy Joel like that,
I would consider because I also like a lot of
his songs. I so you know what I mean. There's
other people there's other people I could see live too,
like but older, like Motown or something like that. Nothing like.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's all I found about Elton John And the tickets
in Philly were like four hundred dollars worse he ever.
And I'm just like, I'm sorry, it's just like and
you're like, Elton, this.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Was nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
That would be the best show you've ever seen in
your life.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
But it's just not the same thing. Yeah, And I
just whatever. Anyway, So he apparently he canceled his concerts,
and I mean, so you know something's wrong because that's
probably a shit ton of money for all the people involved.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, and I forgot that he fell. Remember it came
out that he fell earlier this year at one of
his concerts, and then everybody was really worried. So I
guess it was connected to this brain disorder he's saying
he had.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So can you explain what it is? I'm not really
familiar with it, honestly, but it's called normal pressure hydrocephalus.
So hydrocephalous is when hydro means water, cephalis means brain,
So it just means that there's extra fluid around the brain.
So we normally have cerebral spinal fluid in our brain
and around our spinal cord, and it just means that
(02:31):
there is more production of it and it so they
say that it's normal pressure because when they take it out,
it doesn't seem to have an increased pressure even though
there's a lot more fluid in there. So it's it's
a rare diagnosis, which is why I'm not really familiar
with it. And it's also difficult to diagnose. So let
(02:53):
me tell you some of the problems that people have.
Hearing vision issues, which is a definite problem if you're
playing piano and you're doing a concert balance, so that
would explain why he fell. Sometimes you could have certain
things that could be mistaken for Parkinson's or Alzheimer's, memory problems,
(03:15):
cognitive imparent and trouble walking things like that. So sometimes
when people present with those symptoms, they show up and
they think that maybe they're having that, just because this
one is more of a rare thing. But what I
am familiar with is when some people have cases of hydrocephalus,
they put in what's called a peritoneal shunt, so they
(03:38):
put it's crazy. We used to get them in surgical
pathology all the time when they were taking them out
or replacing them. But they put this really thin tube
that accesses the fluid in the brain and it goes
all the way through your body into your abdominal cavity
and just lets all that extra fluid drain right into
your abdominal cavity where it gets absorbed. Yeah, so he did.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
They cancel all his upcoming shows for the summer. It's
unclear if he's going to perform ever again, so your
chance to see him might not be looking that good.
But it seems like this has a pretty good chance
to improve symptoms. If you do certain procedures, you're certain treatment.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yah, But I don't know if he's So if you
have it, you can get this surgery done. But sometimes
if you were misdiagnosed for a while and you you've
had it, like, you can't reverse some of the problems
that it's making. So he might not really be a
candidate for it. He might have already had the surgery, Like,
we don't know. One interesting thing is is that they
say a person that has this walks like you would
(04:38):
walk on a boat. It's interesting, right, they say, with
your body bent forward, your legs held wide apart and
feet moving as if they were glued to the deck.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Is that walk on boats like I don't. I'm having
a hard time picturing this.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Not like on a cruise ship. We shouldn't see people
like that. But if you're on a boat, that's like,
I think we're gonna see him all they that you
could feel moving and stuff like that. Then you it's
like you're trying to brace yourself from falling, so you
just stand in a certain kind of position, like a
little fishing boat or something.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think we're gonna see a lot of things we're
not prepared to see on the cruise shifts.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Just prepared. Don't worry, guys, we'll document all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh we will.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
For sure. We're gonna end up like down in the
Morgan interviewing people there or something.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I saw where the medical center was on the
med we gotta go.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'll just like paunch you in the face or something,
so we have an excuse that you need medical treatment.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You know, mo, Mom's gonna fall in the first five
hours we're on the boat with this dumb flip flop
she wears.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So she just I don't even want to talk about
my mother and her shoes, not even all the time
that her feet her and she wears like the shittiest
things ever all the time, like heels twist ankle. Like
it's just if you if you heard a person say
that their feet hurt and then they showed up at
(06:01):
your house wearing like high heel mules, would you be like,
because that's literally what happens. I have no sympathy, Like
I'm just like, yeah, that's why your feet hurt because
you're wearing high heel mules. Like that's like if problems solved,
I just diagnosed you and gave you a solution in
two seconds.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We should take bets on who's going to the medical
center first out of like all seventy. That will be the.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Fun part we're gonna have. We're gonna have to induce
a fake injury if if not so all right, So,
speaking of momm we could also talk about TIMU because
I think that most people that are my age probably
have parents that are in their sixties or seventies and
have moved on from Home Shopping Network to TIMU.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Or a brother that has moved on to TMU. Because
Louis was having like a serious problem with it. For
a second, what was he ordering?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Are you serious? You don't know this?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He was like ordering all these sunglasses and like like
rubbers and shorts and like all stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I have Devin intervention. No, Well, this is how we
knew my mom had a problem because the last thing
that she ordered or recent is she ordered like.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Those Skieople ski poles to.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Go walking in in the on the walking trail behind
her house.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We're I'm not getting an angry text after this cell
well like and.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Then she's like, oh, yeah, I returned them. They didn't
work out, And I was like, but you thought they would.
That's what's alarming. She's is that she thought you thought
that was there was a moment in your life where
you thought that that was a good idea. So now
now you're in a certain category. So this is so
this is a conversation I've had with my mom because
she's constantly coming over and giving the kids like I
(07:45):
got you this slip gloss, I got you this, I
got you that, And I'm like, Mom, don't buy my
kids that make up bullshit from TMU and give it
to them because I don't want any kind of chemicals
or anything there from Timu, because I don't believe they're tested,
even though the company says there and stuff. I just
I wouldn't trust putting anything like that, honestly. Like the clothes,
we've we've had articles about the clothes having chemicals on
(08:07):
them that are giving people problems too, but at least
you could wash them and stuff. But like cosmetic stuff,
no way they have. You know, the kids went on
not that one, one of the other ones, Sheen or
one of those places, and they're they're showing me like, look,
you could get this, you know that that cream that
that all the girls like that souljient de Gennaro stuff.
(08:27):
You know what I'm talking about. It smells like suntanlus
or whatever. They're like, you can get this on Sheen.
And I'm like, no, that's fake, and they're like it's
but but like listen, she don't give a shit. They
they make the same label and everything, they don't they
There's like all these brands. All the girls like the
clothes and this and that, and it's there's this this
brand called White Fox or something like that, and they
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they do the same exact shirt and it says w
hte Fox with the same font and the same color everything.
There's like an eye missing and that's the kids out
is unvol it's outrageous and like the kids don't even
notice it at first, and I'm like, now all this
shit is fake. You don't want this so anyway, So
this kid gets the mom gets the kid fake nails
(09:12):
and glue from Timu for Christmas, and the kids putting
on the nails like this is like a typical thing
you would see happen. And the glue got on her
hands somehow that like spilled out onto her hands and
it got bad from there.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, this poor little twelve year old girl all thinking
about is Lily. And of course, because the girls do
their nails all the time, she's just sitting there doing
her nails, the bottle just tips over and spills on
her skin. She starts having this immediate burning sensation. So
at first her mom thinks it's just like not that
big of a deal. She had some little blisters, sends
her on her way, and then it ended up being
(09:49):
so much worse. So she ended up having these horrific,
horrific burns on her hands, and they were saying that
she'll always have these scars. She might never regain feeling
in her hands, and they had to do a skin graft.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
They had to take a skin from her leg and
graft it to her hands. So I will say that
this might not be a TEMU specific situation because any
super glue could could hurt you, right, I when the kids,
when the kids want to have those fake nails, like,
I would never let them put the glue on by
(10:23):
themselves because that would that would I just don't think
that they should be touching glue. And the mom did
complain to TIMU, and the TMU said to them, like,
your kids shouldn't be touching this, And I kind of honestly,
like I agree with that kids shouldn't be touching now glue.
It's for going on your fingernails, which is so close
(10:43):
to your skin. The glue is going to make some
type of contact with your skin. Yeah, But but like
the thing is is that so this cyano acrilely is
the chemical that's in this nail glue, right, and it
causes an exothermic reaction with whenever it's bonding it, it
gets hot and sometimes you could you could actually feel
that happening when it goes on. Right now, there's lots
(11:07):
of documented cases of this happening with like non TMU glue,
because especially like if a kid is playing with that glue,
like let's say, for example, the girls are gluing on
the nails and it drops onto their jeans or their
pants that they're wearing, or sweatpants or anything, and then
it goes through their skin. Like when that glue hits
fabricly cotton and stuff, it gets even hotter and the
(11:29):
potential for burns is even more likely. You can get
glue in your eye. We've had cases in the gross
room of people getting super glue in their eye, both
usually accidentally. Remember the one case was the the daycare
worker put the drops that thought they were putting eye
drops in the baby's eye and put the nail glue
in the baby's eye. So there, it's obviously like accidental
(11:53):
cases or whatever. But like, I don't know, I just
think that there's there's like really bad things that could
happen with that particular chemical. So I don't I don't
think it's a problem if you want to glue nails
on the kids, but I think we could an adult
should do it, just because you know, it's just like
a little bit of a stronger chemical. But yeah, this
kid had to get a skin graph, which is no joke.
(12:16):
And now she I mean, your hands are a very
sensitive part of your body and it's it's sad for her.
And other cases that I've come across, I'm gonna post
some of them in the gross Room this week of
kids that have severe burns from having access to nail glue.
They typically result in full thickness burns and they have
(12:36):
to get a skin graph. It's terrible.
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Speaker 1 (13:43):
Now, so a Walmart Santa Claus is in court after
being charged with the murder of his two children, and
evidence showed that he so excitingly texted his family about
burying the kids.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
All right, before we even talk about this story, could
we just talk about Santa Claus, Like, what about it?
I don't. The older I get, the more I'm like,
I'm I'm not into the kids in the Santa Claus situation.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well get over it, because when you're a grandmother, it's
your time to help me out all those nights that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
No, I don't mean no, I don't mean that. I
don't mean Santa like Christmas presents and stuff. No, I'm
not talking about that. Santa Claus is awesome, and you
mean like small Santa's I mean like kids sitting on
Santa Claus, fake Santa Claus, fake any Semita Claus is fake.
I guess kids sitting on Santa's lap and people that
are Santa's and I know that we know one.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well. I was gonna say, typically I agree with you
because I think everybody is a predator. But you've always
thought that since you were a child, like everybody, let
me watch to catch a predator around like six years old.
I don't know what to tell you first, it's gonna
be in my mind. So we're like.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Ten, you weren't six, okay, but that's not.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Really much better.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So but we know a Santa.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's my husband uncle, and he is genuinely the nicest
person of all times. So when I think of somebody
like him, I'm like, of course there should be Santa's
because he's like, genuinely such a nice jolly man. Yes,
there's all like problematic.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Every every single time I've been going recently, like I'm
staring at these dudes and I'm like, what is their story?
Like why do they want to do this for a living?
Why do they enjoy children sitting on their lap? Like
I don't know, I just I don't. I don't like it.
And the past couple of years, like I've I've just
kind of been like, you know what, like we're not
we don't have to do that if you don't want to.
(15:35):
I feel like a lot of parents like force their
kids to do it for themselves because kids typically like
don't really necessarily like it. They like to like go
to the mall and look at Santa from Afar, but
they don't actually want to like interact with them.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, hopefully, since I got the connect, I don't got.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
To go to the mall. Yeah, just be like can
you just like come over and whatever. But so like
I'm already like sauce of this guy because because he's
a Santa Claus at Walmart all right.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, he killed both of his kids when they were
both fourteen years old, so it was a little confusing.
So when his son was fourteen in twenty sixteen, he
ended up killing him. They just found the kid's bones,
cause of death is undetermined. And then in twenty eighteen,
he starved his fourteen year old daughter to death. And
they're going through all the evidence in this trial and
they found so not only is this Sanna involved in this,
(16:25):
but his girlfriend, his girlfriend's mother, and that woman's boyfriend.
So we were just talking last week. How it's obviously
disturbing when one person is committing crimes like this, but
then when you get like a group of people involves
what is happening. Yeah, and this guy's like going and
like letting little kids sit on his lap and smiling
when he's at home. It's starving his child child to death.
(16:48):
And so he had a fourteen year old he killed
and went missing, and like nobody like so it seems
like nobody knew the boy went missing where they were
able to cover up enough for it in sixteen, but
then when the girl went missing in twenty eighteen, that's
when somebody reported them and they went and checked the
property and then they ended up.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Finding the bodies. But so they're going through the evidence.
I just can't wrap my mind around children that are
missing and people don't know that they're missing. I just can't.
Like It's that makes it even more sad because you're
like there's no adult. Well, I guess there was some
adults around that knew it was happening, but you're like,
there's no one around this child that loves his child
(17:29):
enough to like care that that they're not that they're missing.
It's just so sad well.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It is said, because their biological mother was reportedly a
homeless person. And then you have this guy who's clearly
an abuser, and then he's somehow connected to these three
other people that are equally as evil as him. So
they're going through all this evidence in the trial. And
he texted his wife's mother saying, almost done burying Mary,
and then she replied cool, how deep? And she wrote
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cool with an explanation point like.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
There's nothing, yeah, you're like about this? That's so that
is like so bizarre those text messages. It's also weird
that people commit crimes are like writing text messages back
and forth to each other, like did they not listen
to our show? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, I was saying this a lot with the Lori
Valo case, because there was so much via text that
they were able to like pinpoint basically when the kids
were killed because of things they were saying in their
locations and photos they were taking. And I don't know
if people I feel like maybe like in her case,
she's such a narcissist that she really thinks she won't
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be caught and therefore it won't end up being a problem.
And I wonder if that goes through a lot of
people's minds that they genuinely believe they won't be caught
and it's not going to come up and be an issue,
or if they're just not thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, that's possible.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I don't know. It's it's very bizarre thing to do.
But obviously these people are horrible people and they all
suck and they all got charged.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
So at least there's gonna be some just this in
this case. All right, let's talk. This next case is
so disturbing as well.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So earlier this month, this tourist from Italy went over
this guy's house in New York City over a bitcoin exchange.
But now the homeowner's been arrested after he allegedly kidnapped
and tortured the tourists for weeks. I just like, I
still don't understand the bitcoin situation, like I'm not. I
can't possibly explain it because I don't understand it, and
I don't need people yelling at us that we don't.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I'm not even gonna try because I don't even understand.
I don't even understand what it is. But whatever happened,
like bitcoin or not, this guy kind of kidnapped this
guy and tied him up and tortured him for several weeks,
and he was able to finally escape and flag down
a nearby traffic person who was able to call nine
(19:50):
one one, and the investigators were just shocked when they
heard what was going on with him.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, so he told police that he escaped after agreeing
to give his bitcoin password to the guy that abducted him,
and when the guy went to go get his laptop,
that's when the victim was able to leave the home
and track down the traffic cup that was able to
call the police. So then he told investigators that he
was shocked with an electrical wire, his leg was cut
with a saw, and he was forced to smoke crack cocaine.
(20:16):
And then they also recovered some really disturbing evidence at
the scene, which was chicken wire, ballistic helmets, body armor,
night vision goggles, T shirts, pictures of the victim with
the crack cocaine pipe in his mouth, and polaroids with
a firearm pointed at the victim's head.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Okay, they went out of their way to have T
shirts printed with his face on it. Yeah, like that,
like so weird.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
But who printed the t shirts, Like did they make
them on their cricket or that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I don't know. It's so weird. So listen. This story
gets even weirder because so at some part of the
story it said that there were two butlers at the
residence when this happened. So I was like, butlers, what?
So I look up the address, which was thirty eight
Prince Street in Soho.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Right, that's a really nice neighborhood, so I imagine the
house is the house nice, So it's not for sale
right now. But on Zillo, this estimate is twenty three
million dollars for this house. Eight bedrooms, ten baths, ten
thousand square feet, Like that is not what I would
be thinking in a situation like this. It and a
side note too, let me just tell you what.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The estimated mortgage payment is for that house.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Well, they said that guy was paying thirty to forty
thousand dollars a month in rent.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, because this one's saying estimated mortgage payment is one
hundred and fifty three eight hundred and eighty three dollars
a month. That's insane, which is which is insane, But
thirty thousand dollars a month is also insane. Well, of course,
I mean in New York that's probably considered a steal
for a property like that. But this thirty seven year
old crypto investor and his twenty four year old assistant
(21:56):
were both arrested for this case. I am curious now
that you're talking about the butler or like, where were they?
Did they really not notice? It's like a ditty situation.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, it is really bizarre and like so I guess
the whole motive was they were trying to steal bitcoin
from the victim, but he was there for weeks.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
This is really disturbing to think about somebody doing this,
and obviously this person had money in some capacity if
they're paying rent on this place. And people in the
neighborhood were shocked, of course because it's a pretty nice neighborhood,
but at the same time, it's naiven New York, Like
crazy shit happens anywhere you live. I just don't really
understand what was happening. Like they were trying to steal
(22:36):
money from him, Is that what was happening. Yeah, they
were trying to steal bitcoin from him, so he so
the only reason they were torturing him is because they
wanted his password and then he finally gave it up. Well,
I would say that's probably not the only reason. It
has to be more involved than that, because why wouldn't
he just give up the password after like a couple
(22:56):
hours if that was the key, and like get a
week's go outside and like change it back. I know, yeah,
I don't know, yeah, because like it's he was I
don't know, just in why crack, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
The whole thing is.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's a weird story sometimes, especially the T shirts. Well
you just hear like it's like Diddy and Jeffrey Epstein.
You just hear of these mega rich people doing this
really weird shit, and you're like, are you that bored?
You can't do anything else with your time other than
like torture and kidnap people.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It's so bizarre. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
All right. So this woman wrote an article for The
Times explaining that after giving birth, her midwife was tying
her back up when suddenly the worst thing she could
imagine happened to her.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Her vagina fell out. All right, So, so I guess
she's she had her second kid, and she was getting
she tore a little bit after she gave birth, and
they were they were sewing her back up down there,
and she said, whenever she gives birth, so this is
the second time she's giving birth. She started vomiting by afterwards,
(24:01):
which I don't really know what that's about, but like
I was telling you after you especially if you give well,
she said she had an epidural, So I don't really
know why she why that happens. And if anyone I know,
my friend Jamie listens sometimes and she delivers babies a lot,
so if that's a thing, I don't know. But the doctor,
(24:21):
so the doctor's like in between her legs, is sewing
her crotch up, and she says, I have to throw up,
and she gets the pan and she starts throwing up,
and you know, when you throw up, it's like pretty
violent on your body, like you know, you're kind of
convulsing and you can't control it sometimes, And all of
a sudden, the doctor looked up at her and was like,
your vagina fell out, and she she didn't really understand
(24:43):
what that meant. And there was this whole weird period
where she said the doctor had to push it back in,
and then she ran out of the room and a
surgeon came in and looked and was just like, yeah,
your vaginal wall caved in and it might not ever
happen again. Because she was just like, well, what do
I do in this situation? And he was just kind
of like, don't overexert yourself and like it might not
(25:04):
ever happen again. And then six weeks later she was
saying it was like the day before she was going
back for her check up after she had the baby.
She said she was just walking and put her leg
up onto a curb and then all of a sudden
that that shift just made it happen again. And she
said that she felt this like cold like clammy thing
(25:25):
pressing against her underwear in between her legs and like
a gelatinous mass she called it, which sounds I mean,
it's pretty accurate because I've seen miss Mask said the
chronic slop, And she just said she had a horrible
tugging sensation in her abdomen. And since she was going
(25:47):
to the gynecologist the next day, she she showed the
gynocologists for the for the checkup, you know, and the
doctor was like, oh, you like this is a typical
story of like again, this is like the theme of
this show that women getting blown off. Right. The doctor
was like, oh, you must have overexerted yourself, and she's like, well,
I just kind of put my leg up on a
(26:08):
curb to walk. I wouldn't consider that to be over
exerting myself. Weless. She has two little kids at this point, now,
you know. So they said they refer her to a
gynecologist and they said, have you ever done keegle floor exercises?
So she started doing that and like, I don't know, like,
if you're having a problem like that, I don't think
at this point that is going to help. Then she
(26:30):
said she even got that LV train or thing. So
remember we talked about that a while ago on Mother
Knows Death about the vaginal video game. That's like a
little egg shaped dildo that you put in your vadge
and like play video games with it, and it's it's
letting you know that you're definitely doing a good job
with your keegel exercises. But she was saying she had
(26:50):
like all these problems, like it wouldn't recognize the device
and then she would be all the way through a
game and then it would say it was like she
wasn't doing good and stuff like that. So anyway, she
she's trying to get it addressed now and the doctors
are blowing her off essentially. So now it's been six
months and she wants to have sex with her husband,
which I think is crazy that this is a concern
(27:12):
for her that she's had to wait even six months
to have sex with her husband, right, And she said,
at first, they're having sex, and then all of a sudden,
she said that they felt like this, this like wet
gush of like what she said. She said, it was
similar to when she had a kid and like her
water broke, right, So they turned on the light and
(27:33):
thought that that he, you know, both of them were
going to be covered in blood, and it was like,
thankfully it wasn't blood, but he was covered in pea
and so was she. There was like pee all over
the place, right, and she's like, oh cool, what's that?
And he saw something like he was like disturbed. Her
husband was disturbed looking and he was like looking at
(27:54):
her vagina, and she said that it looked like a
penis was like sticking out of her vagina. And she
figured out that it was probably like her bladder or
something like that, like all of her publc organs were
like coming out of her vaginal opening. So I guess
this is one of the things that we could talk
about with like because this is happening in the UK,
(28:14):
and I guess they have public doctors. And then she
finally decided she was going to visit a private doctor,
and so she made up this appointment and everything, and
then they said to her, okay, well at least they
addressed it, and they said, okay, you can get this
this thing called a pesory, which they stick up inside there.
It's like a plug almost. They stick up inside the
(28:36):
vagina and kind of push it back up and it
keeps it in place. Okay, or you could get surgery.
And she was just trying to get some answers because
some people say pestori is bad, some people say surgery
is bad. And she was just trying to figure out
like what to do in case she wanted to have
more kids or whatever, because a lot of the people
were telling her like, oh, you shouldn't have more kids.
(28:56):
And the reason is is because when you have the
older you get and the more children you have, it
just weakens the muscles down there. For certain people, doesn't
happen to everyone, but I think and any person that's
my age that's had a couple kids vaginally can be like, yeah,
you know, I was just talking to one of my
friends about that this weekend, Like what the I recently
(29:19):
had went to the trampoline park with my kids and
like I jump on the trampoline and it's like, oh,
I peed myself. I can't do that anymore, Like it
was that, you know what I mean, Like stuff you
just don't realize that you don't have control over anymore.
But when you look at a skeleton, for example, you
see that giant hole in between where a baby's head
would fit through in a female skeleton, right, So there's
(29:43):
there has to be something that holds all those organs
in because of gravity, like they just typically want to
fall down. So you have these muscles that go across it.
They're almost kind of like a basket in or weave
in across the bottom, but they're holding your organs in.
So they have like a very very serious responsibility and
if they're not strong, they could become weak. And when
(30:04):
they become weak, those organs start falling out of the
whole of your skeleton and that's basically, you know, your
uterus comes out through your vagina, but other things could
come along for the ride. I like to say, like
the bladder that's attached to the front of the uterus
and the rectum that's attached to the back of the uterus,
so they can all start falling out. And it's really
(30:28):
it's it's a really disturbing thing to see if you're
a woman, but it's also just uncomfortable, a lot of
pressure pain. Just think about this, like, you're a younger woman,
just had a kid, you want to have sex with
your husband, Like, this is what you have to think
about now. He's traumatized because he saw some weird thing
coming out of your badge. Like, it's just it's just terrible.
(30:48):
So she went to see this this specialist that was
supposed to talk to her about surgery, and he was like, oh,
good news, you're a candidate for surgery. And then he said, yeah,
I think you should get a labioplasty. You know, sometimes
when you have vaginal childbirth, it stretches out your labia
and it gets a little long. I'm not saying that
yours are that bad, but they could be fixed. And
(31:10):
she's just like, what the fuck, I just want you
to fix my uterus. I didn't ask you about my labia,
and that's kind of where it stands. And she's just like,
you know what, like I'm done here, I'm not dealing
with this anymore. And I mean she's eventually probably gonna
get surgery for this because she can't live like this.
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Well, it's ridiculous to be blown off all this time,
you're like really being proactive about it, and then for
finally the person that takes you seriously is like, well,
while we're down there, do you want some plastic surgery?
Like f off, dude, Yeah, but not not even like
it wasn't like, oh let's do let's do your hysterectomy
and then do the labioplasty. It was like, eh, you
(31:49):
don't need a hysterectomy, but you should fix these labia.
Like it it was like an either or situation and
that's it. That's just so insulting that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I don't know, and I don't I don't know how
like things are done in the UK because in US
and the pathology lab, like we get uterine prolapse all
the time as a specimen, so it's done here, like
people don't have a problem with it. Well, one thing
I took from the article that was really interesting is
she was saying it all could have been prevented if
I had a C section, but apparently you can't get
elective c sections with this healthcare system. Oh that's interesting. See, like,
(32:27):
I don't if you seriously have a problem with with prolapse,
then I don't see a C section as being elective.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, but I think, like, but I've been suggested to
the midwife because of her first trauma with her first childbirth,
and they were like, well, why would you want to
do that, Like they advise against it. Listen, I think
I think that they overdo it here. So I don't
necessarily have a problem with it, because there's way too
many people getting c sections that shouldn't be and the
(33:00):
risks associated with that are so much greater than vaginal childbirth,
So I could see why. I don't know if they
need to be that strict about it, because I do
think she has a medical problem that would indicate that
she should be a candidate for it. But yeah, I
mean that's definitely a concern for sure. But I mean,
people get it just because they just don't want. You know,
(33:23):
there's all different reasons why people get it, and it's
a it's a major surgery. It's a very major surgery
that people don't really think about. Yeah, So where she
stands right now is she said she has good days
and she has bad days, and that she's hopeful that
outcomes will have improved by the time she might need surgery.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
So I feel like she should get the pessary at
least because I'm pretty.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I don't know, Well, it's hard one person telling you
to get it and then another doctor's telling you not
to do it. So like she has one person telling
her what day, one person telling her another, Like it
just seems like a huge mess. Yeah, it's also typically
women getting blown off for major issues, like we can't
talk about it enough.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And if you say this out loud, you're like, this
woman never knows when her vadge and her uterus is
gonna start coming out of her vagina, Like why is
that not a huge concern for people when you're just
at a party and it happens or something like that, Like,
cause it's not. It's it's not only kind of gross
and disturbing, but it's it's physically uncomfortable. Why is that
(34:27):
not like like an emergency situation for these doctors when
they hear that this is happening, especially when you're you're
not an old person, You're still trying to have sex
and stuff. It's just it's just weird to me that
they're like, yeah, whatever, Like I don't know, it's just
so weird. No, it is.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
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Speaker 2 (34:55):
See you tomorrow. Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,
and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day, and the
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