September 25, 2025 • 49 mins
Kyle has a heart-to-heart with his on-screen biological son – comedian, writer, actor, podcast host, and producer Benito Skinner aka Benny Drama – to unpack what it’s like working together and growing up in the Northwest, ideas for the second season of Overcompensating, and how Benny created the original characters and viral celebrity impersonations that jumpstarted his career. Don’t miss father and son reveal who and what inspired them to pursue acting, how they get into character, and a custom segment that requires eyewear.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm here with Daddy.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ah, Daddy's looking good.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
You're my hero.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I didn't know you were a dick yet, very similar
to golf wed J. This is my fourth well, it's
my fleabag camera. I can't really wake up before seven
unless it's for overcompensating.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And you have some exciting news about that we're doing
season two.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Like are you thick? Like your son's gay? And did
I say, why are you watch it?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I've been thinking about the Oregon coast a lot lately.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
The dogs become really important.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I think little Bob, well.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Any excuse to wear way? That's the face of Balnciaga.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Do you guys get that?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hey, he's no chain toogal now. But we shouldn't be
allowed to podcast, No, we shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What do we even do? What are we even doing?
By the way, ladies and gentlemen, this is what are
we even doing? And we're here with Benny Drama. I'm
here with Daddy Oh, and we just search some really
really good news we're going to get to so, as
you know, we we are interviewing actors, creators all type
(00:55):
about their world, their creative world, how they use social media,
what's happening. We get weird together in a good way,
and today we have it. I'm going to do a
proper introduction brilliant comedian, writer, actor, podcast host Idaho.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And oh yeah before acting of course they do.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Of course, and my on screen biological song yes blood relative, Yeah,
almost only because you're from Bois and I'm from Yakama. Yeah,
and we can talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The relations somewhere.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
There is definitely cross over there. I am happy, happy,
happy to be here with you. You're my hero, pleas your
bless your heart.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So we do podcasts together a lot. This is kind
of our thing now.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I think it could be because we did the one
for a twenty four Yeah, explosive and talk to Yeah,
yeah it was. It was fantastic. Yeah, talking about overcompensating
so fun. And you have some exciting news about that.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I think we can share.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, we're doing season two.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We're going back.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We're going back.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
There's one hundred people here. Yeah, yes, the audience.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm so excited because I started to tell you a
few things I wanted us to do, but I was
just saying, like, you don't want to fall in love
too much with storylines and stuff. I'm like, please just
let this happen. So now I'm just like, I'm a
nightmare to have dinner with right now because I'll just
literally in the middle of a story. I'll be like,
so then Carmen's trying to get Benny's skinny jeans off right,
and they're just like cool. You like you're not here.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's like you're already writing, You're in the writers You're
already working it. Are you going to stay here and
do the writer's room here in La?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I think we're gonna do a little bit in New York.
A few of the writers are there, Wally and Mary
Beth are doing the room with me as well, so,
which would be so fun. But we do it on zoom,
you know, which works. Yeah, so we kind of I
think we're going to do a mix of in person
in zoom this time. Last time it was just zoom,
which I think was good for me because I had
never done a room before, so I was like I
(02:48):
needed something to you know, fidget with things. Yeah, so nervous,
and yeah, I was with like peers and people I've
like looked up to, and yeah, you just get so.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You've seemed to be like you handled yourself really really well.
I mean, and that's of course watching you going to
filming when I was there and just how you handle
everything and just you know, like a pro.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That is so nice to hear you say that, because
when you came in, I have never been more nervous.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And the first thing we did was.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You and my room changes, like where you put on
my close and I remember just being like I had
this really weird moment where I find this all the
time where it's like hearing your voice is what really
freaked me out. The mom It's like hearing your voice
and Connie's voice they're actually here.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Oh yeah, And I just was midn And then also
I have the thing too where then I just start
to watch like it's so fun because you've.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Written the you know words, and now you get to
watch like cal McLaughlin's doing it, and I so yeah,
I'm kind of like sitting back. I was like, oh fuck,
I'm in the scene with him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Let mean I did that at the dinner table scene.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You got to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You're like, yeah, oh yeah, I did engage with you.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Sorry, yeah, but oh I love an audience and that
was fun to the dinner scene. Oh my god, well
what he had written was so perfect. I was just like, oh,
I'm gonna take this as far as I can the.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Way you did.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And I wrote that was Scott King and that is
one of those scenes. And he had known Connie for
so like they had worked together.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Oh I didn't know, okay, okay, it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Was just like and you were our dreamcast, so it
was like we I think that was one of the
easiest things to edit. Like that was one of those
things where also the first time I watched it was
what is on screen? Like it was just like that
scene is so and with the lights and we played
with the light flickering a lot and posted the one
part I broke and I'm so bad. I break in
every scene, but with the you.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Know, yeah, yeah, it's just like, I mean, that was
such a that was such a brilliant, brilliant idea. I
don't know, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Have these things and like experience. I had so many
friends parents who were all doing in visil line at
the same time, okay, and I don't know why, but
it was like I think maybe for their kids weddings.
They were all like I'm getting straight teeth, like my
parents did it, and then Mary Beth had done it randomly,
and then her I think maybe her mom had done it,
like just an assortment of parents. So I was like,
(05:08):
let's give him envissile, and I thought maybe I didn't.
I mean, I assumed you were the best. I didn't
know you were a dick yet. But I was just like,
I think he'll be down.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And then right now day one in the.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Trailer, you were like trying on my enviscile.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yes, I'm so excited. It's gonna how I'm going to talk.
It was good. Just it just informs a character so
so much. Those little things that you lay in really
support the character. What you're doing. You know what I
mean to take and just make it very easy. So
I was nervous at first day too. I'm walking in,
I'm like, I got to take my shirt off now,
and I'm like, okay, I'm a man of a certain age.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
My daddy, Daddy's like, good do the best he can.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
No, in the take, I should have gone ship dad, Yeah,
right that one mile up and down the block?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You ate that up?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh yeah, no I can't. We kind of threw you
into the deep end there but fantastic.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I love it. I love it. I love working with Connie.
She is so I had not worked there before. I
mean to kne who she was. Of course, she has
that rare quality where I can't tell if she knows
that she's funny or what she just is.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh, it's so, you know, It's like that is such
a perfect way of describing her, because it's I think
she you know, maybe in the back of her mind.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Nose, but I think there's something.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Where she like knows she has the power in the scene.
Because I always felt that I'm like she it doesn't
feel like someone trying to be seen by the camera
in a way, and I felt the same way with you.
It's just like it's there, which I think is a
tendency in comedy. Is like I have to make sure
the camera sees the bit I'm doing, whereas I feel
like in every take with both of you, you were
(06:42):
doing such different things and that was so exciting to
see the interesting you say that because I think when
I first started, I was like much more aware of
the camera and much more aware of like matching things
and is catching everything.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And then as I kind of, you know, went got
older and went through things. I was like, you know what,
more and more it's about like trying not to show
just the thing and not even the cameras like it's
gonna get what it's going to get.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
The play of it, like watching both of you play. Yeah,
she has that crazy monologue out with the dogs, and
she also chow chow puppies are not relaxed and they're
not particularly sweet, and sometimes the chow chow community is
going to come for me, you see my trauma from
having a podcast big. I'm like, I love chow Chow's,
by the way, but watching her do that, there was
(07:25):
no take that was similar. She just like and the
way she would riff. And also she has this line
where she's like, I didn't and it was one of
my favorite lines to write because it felt so like
what my mom would say. She's like, I didn't want
to do J jail because it would ruin it. I
didn't want to ruin it for me, so I did
J Crue Factory And just her saying that she kind
of threw it away and I was like, God, she's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You're so smart. Yeah, I want to ask you about
growing up in a small town in the Northwest. Yeah,
because we share that You're from Boise, Idaho. I'm from Yakama, Washington. Yeah.
I think the two towns are very similar. Can Napoleon
was Napoleon died and.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It was it was in I think Rexburg, Idaho.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Okay, yeah, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I've described it as this and and now everyone around
me is like, sure, I guess that makes kind of sense.
But we grew up with the sawtooth mountains go through
Voice beautiful, and so I every morning, like at the
end of my drive, like I could see the mountains
where we would ski in the winter, and it helped
me with direction. So everywhere I go, I know, based
on I find my mountain. Ye, yeah, I know where
(08:28):
I am. So nothing else in my personality would make
it seem like I'm good at directions, but I'm actually good.
And I think it's because of growing up with a
view that having.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think I agree with you, you know, reference exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this is my week.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We didn't have any mountains. We could see the cascades
so pretty, and we could see some of the mountains
like Mount Rain near Mount Adams. We couldn't see Mount
Saint Helen's. But there was a few that we could see.
And so that's the way you got your we got
I got my remember where things are? You know, Helen?
But saw tooths are those are some beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That's why I think sometimes people think Idaho flat or Midwest.
No hate to that, No, no, I love you. Yeah,
but it's the this is my fourth wall. It's my
flea bag camera right here, which is yours.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yours.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's just like, I'm like, it's so funny that you're
thinking of Idaho. It's like because to me, I'm like,
it's mountains, like mountains and Mount Saint Helen is so funny.
My grandparents flew over it five hours before it went off.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's where that get here on the back, I know it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And I grew up with crazy hearing about Mount Saint
Helens for so that was like, you know, that crazed
my family all golf, So we were like driving around. Yeah,
that's why I was always in Washington and and see
you golf.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Wa do we talk about this? So because I grew
up on the golf team in high school, I wasn't.
I wasn't very all my siblings did. I I did.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Football, and then when I was in college, I did
radio DJ SO, but all my siblings played college golf
very similar to GOLFO well of course, well yeah, it's
like it's either if one doesn't work, you have Okay,
golf was tricky for me.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I'm not patient.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I well so yeah and also.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah exactly like I remember I was doing it one
morning and I probably was like nine. This guy was
keeping scoring. He was like the dad of one of
the kids I was playing with, so like, I don't know,
they just all bothered me, yea yea yeah, and I
got like it took me an eleven shots to get
out of the sand trap on this one hole, and
then I just by the end, I was just so
fucking pissed. And the guy to me was like, you
know what's great about golf is that you have the
(10:27):
next hole and it's just a total, it's just a wash,
like it's just all new. And I was like, yeah,
that's really cool. You're still going to count that.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Fifteen I shot on that last whole, right yeah, And
then I was just like I shouldn't play this, like
some of my parents put me into track instead of
spring oh and I could you.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Could dash and that would be yeah. But that football
and track.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, that was good. Was the classic sports. And of
course golf was not cool when I was when I
was in school, it was not cool.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
See it kind of got like I got my siblings,
it being kind of you know, is the Tiger Woods
of golf at that.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Was when it was good and now it's kind of
gone back, I think into some other.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I don't know what it is. I don't I don't
know if I'm allowed on courses anymore. But I love
taking a you know, whack at it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah. Yeah, so that's high school. Did you do sports
in college Georgetown? No.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I was the first of my family did not play
a sport. But still, like I mean, I've always kind
of been like a semi gym guy, you know. I
love like I was maybe going to do like a
running team and then or a running club. You know.
They kind of really scout intensely for crew on those
East Go schools for sure, So I thought about that,
but I can't really like unless it's for overcomptable.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I got to be on camera, but did you you
didn't row? I mean, yeah, because you imagine going to.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
The tub.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
At the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I would have been probably a little tricky, and boys
we had to drive to like ketch him or McCall
which or you catch well, actually, no, there's no lake
in Ketcham. I'm going to get right for that, McCall.
I haven't been home.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
People love to say that to me, and I'm like,
sometimes I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I think I was just sad movie theaters.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I love it. I just love the Northwest. I do,
I really. I mean, it's a certain to it, and
so there's a scent and a smell and a look
in tree right, I'm really trying about the news, about
the news about coming back. It's gonna be great. I
think we have one of the great father son relationships
(12:31):
and there's more to mine, you know what I mean
about that relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, like almost Connie got more of the emotional beats
in this season, you know, which I think does make
sense for a lot of these experiences of you know,
when people come out. I think moms have a different
relationship to it than dads in a way.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I've just been rereading this book, The Velvet Rage, which
is kind of about this experience of being in the
closet and as you come out and and how that
manifests in different ways for you, you know, and how
it I think kind of changes who you are. And
it talks about that too, the relationship between parents, and
so I think, you know, looking into season two, I
am excited for also there more emotion, I think.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, I'm usually I'm curious about the journey. I'm looking
forward to the journey because I think, at the end
of the day, this is this person is your flesh
and blood, right, this is your son or your daughter,
and that supersedes everything. Of course, I mean, there's nothing whatever,
whatever they're going through, whatever's happening, you know, you find acceptance,
You find a way to understand you. You work towards
that if you're having a difficulty, if it's not just immediate,
(13:31):
you know, because you just can't be denied. The relationship
can't be denied. So I'm really I'm curious to find
out how if my character sort of finds his way
to connect with you.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's also I'm now having, you know, this excitement with
writing season two of like I get to write for
you, you know, it's like the dream before of you know,
and now I get to know that it's Waally yeah, yeah, yeah, sure,
and yeah, I think that's what's kind of yeah to
go and a confidence with with you now, you know.
It's like I like, that is so exciting to me
(14:05):
that I'm like, I know you and I know also
and being on set with you, I'm like, how what
would be like fun and enjoyable as an actor to
get to do with you and play But you know,
I think I told you. It's it's so interesting. It's
like parents go through this journey and then at the
other side of it, they're like wearing pride merch yes,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And it's just like so funny.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
You can see that happening and she's like, well, well
now it's like, yeah, let's get let's get in at.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
The north face pride merch. Yes, my dad does, and
he looks greted.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm like hell yeah, king.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like light that up and he's like check it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I'm like I love the rainbow fabulous, yes, but all
that's all.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
That's going to awaken, which I think is really fun
and just.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like I love doing bits with I mean just you
having bits and parent bits are fun to just.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I lean to dad bits, you know me like yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And I want to see the J Crew Factory with Connie.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
That would be fun too. I really want to. We
gotta find them all, well, you know, and I do.
And I actually love that relationship too. I love the
fact that I think you really believe that we're parents, Yeah,
that have been together for a long time and you know,
gone through all sorts of different things, and you know
we're connected, we're together, but we're also doing our own
thing and you know, now we're all gone.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So it's like I think that you know, we were
talking about it in the writer's room. Everyone kind of
had different stories of when they left and what their
parents how that affected their parents' lives because they were like, well,
they've just given eighteen years to being so focused on you.
Now they're trying to rEFInd out who they are without
you in the house, and then almost coming back together
and re meeting each other, yes, like not parents, but
(15:33):
as like partners.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yehich I think is really that. I think that's that's
that's really true. In fact, we're my wife and I
are facing our sons and a rising in a senior year.
He's just started a senior so one year and he's
off somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
We only have one, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's a little I'm not going to terrify.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
The dogs become really important.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I think, oh, the dogs. My mom is absolutely the
dogs become huge.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Absolutely God which is we're on that way.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
My dogs smell better than any human I met, Like,
it's explosive. I go, oh, just the coats on those goldens. Sorry,
we didn't do golden so goldens would have been easier.
So then Scott King, our showrunner, loves cow Chow's, so
that's why we did twelve.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I was I going on, really going to chow Land.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, well it's one of these Okay, so going to
chow Land, Okay, clip that?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
But there was that, Yeah, I heard clip that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
But that's one of those things where you write in
a script and this is something that it sounds like.
So I feel very lucky that this is true. But
you'll write something in a script and you've read it
so many times you don't even really read the stage
direction anymore. So I kind of forget sometimes. But then
obviously a production designer, you know, everyone is is like, well,
(16:47):
this is what's in script, and like we want to
make the world come to life. As like the writers
have written, so it would be something like that where
all of a sudden they're like, yeah, and you wanted
this girl to have a service dog that was a poodle, right,
And I'm like yeah, and they're like, well, We've looked
all over Toronto. We found one. And I was just like,
oh my gosh, it's so bad. I'm like, we could
have easily because like your wishes their command just like
(17:08):
they're like, yeah, this is the way, and I'm like,
oh my god, I just didn't much time.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Did you spend exactly cost?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And what did it take?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Shout out Josh who found those childs for you? I
think that took a really long time to find chow
chow puppies that were okay to be filmed, Yeah, and
be handled by an actor.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, it was so yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, next time I'll be maybe a little things.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, do you have any requests?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
We're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I'm gonna talk a little bit too about because we
talk about were commentating a lot, but I'm very excited
about that. We're gonna shoot in Toronto. What do we know?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't know. Campuses are hard. Shooting on campuses is tricky,
so trying to figure that out. And during this school year.
School year we had we had one night that was
so it was one of those things where then after
you just feel like this is so cool that this
is like really happening. But we were shooting on campus
with me and Wally and we were doing a golf
(18:02):
cart sequence and then this one where we're walking and
you know, I say that I'm super picky with girls,
and then I asked her and she's like, I'm not
picky at all with God. And we look up after
a take because we kept hearing like people time. We
were like what and there was like a high school
camp that they had within the dorms. In there they
were it was an entire row of these like high
(18:25):
school boys filming us and filming her. I was just like, yeah,
we should probably do it on a closed this decision
I saw I still get, you know, tagged in those videos,
and I'm like, that's like, there you go.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
That was a private Having a successful show, you know,
you just gonna be yeah, you're gonna be hrdhlighted. So
but you've done some really fun characters too. So I
was not familiar with these characters when we were together,
but looked into some of them.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's scary.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I don't think that you're doing these anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
But it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Deliverance Richard just one that I got a kick out of.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
She would love you, Yeah, to sell you a vineyard
all in. I miss her a lot. I really do
miss being Deliverance. She was she is kind of just me.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You're just free association, going crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Just going to town like.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I love her.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I did her because I was I was looking for
a place, and I kept meeting with different realitors, and
every single time I found that a few of them
I met with. Anything I said, they went with. And
then so I would be like, yeah, I really liked it,
and They're like, isn't it the best? And I'm like, yeah,
but this one thing, you know, I'm not loving. They're like, right,
like I fucking lived there and kill myself before it.
(19:34):
And I'm like, okay, do you like it or not?
Like wait, should I not get it? And I just
and the outfits and the selling sunset.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And the fingernails and remember the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I love having. I wear like gloves and I wear
like hats. I did a pregnant belly at one point
just because I was like, I think she'd be pregnant
still walk in this, you know. So she was fun.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
That was one of my favorite. Jenny the TMI hair
shy list scared me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You'd love to give you a cut.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, I bet you would. I just don't still give
you a die job. I would just be like, I'm
a deer in headlights. I'm like, oh no, was there
one that you were like, oh, this is close to me,
just one of the characters that you created?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh my god, you know what's funny. I actually one
of the first characters I did was Haley, who became
the character in the show played by Holmes so brilliantly.
One of the most talented people I've met, and I
that was something where we had done a stand up
show together like two years maybe two years prior to shooting.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think that's what they said. They said, yes, that's
how you met.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
We met in backstage. It was at the Allegiant Theater
and it was very kind of this like small little
backstage that they have, and it was like immediately foreheads touching,
you know, We're in the corner just like talking to agent,
just throwing up in each other's mouth and then she
had this incredible set and I was like, got she's good.
And then when we were auditioning people, she read for
Carmen and Scott King sent it to me and he
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was like, wow, she's like incredible. Yeah, and I was like,
oh my god, what and I said, get her on
tape for him. Haley ran. Now I have never laughed
like that. And I love that character so much because
it was like this first character I developed. Yeah, you
know I initially she was a character that I had
where it's like a girl who just got back from abroad,
and then I kind of used her for a bunch
of different things like that, and this kind of I think,
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like bad out of Hell that arrives at college was
so I mean, she writing that part is like a
gay man's strength and having someone like hands come in,
it's just and you know what, the way she did
it is that she believed everything she said, and like,
I think that's why people have responded so well to it.
It's because you know, she came in and she was
you know, it's like what you're saying where something's just
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inform the character. She was just like she is so loyal,
she's obsessed with Carmen like she's she might even be
in love with her, and I'm like, I love this,
like this every she just found a reason why all
of it made sense to her and none of it
was what I think some people could read on the page.
And also why I think Adam DeMarco was so great.
It's he was like, it's not a bimbo, and she
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was like, you know, this isn't a bimbo.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
It's an kid who.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Wants to be loved and seen hasn't been seen in
the right way.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I just an absolute truth, like there's you can't
she can't be dishonest, which I think is such an
extraordinary quality. Absolutely, you really feel that the performance, So yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Anyone were to do with Hailey, Oh, She's fun.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
To write and knowing that I'm putting in my my head,
I'd love to seeing. I'd love to.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
See ye oh, I would love that be like your
son's gay. Wait yeah, you know, like like are you
thick like your son's gay?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah? Yeah, like with her already yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
What you've done with overcommisating is you the people that
you know, your friends, yeah, people that you worked with
that you know within the circuits that the comedy circuit.
The dramas are in the show, and you brought them,
and you brought them and you know them, and you
bring them and you let them do their thing. Like
Marybeth is a great I loved working with her soul much.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
It's so funny when we did those first the photos
of the family, anyone who I showed it to, they're like,
I kind of get it, Like they're like, I know
who got each Like feature, I know who's I was
so glad you got to do that. We did episode
seven with the parents and that you got to see
because that was I think such an amazing showcase of
(23:25):
why I have always responded to her comedy and think
she's so brilliant, and that performance that she gives at
the dinner table, and and even that really sad sequence
in the bathroom where she's kind of dressed herself up
and her mom compliments it and it feels good, but
she doesn't want to show that it feels too good.
I just love her in that episode was really for her.
It was like we wanted it to be a showcase
of I think this a great moment for Benny, but
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it was so much more about her and the parents
and like finding like this family.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You see, this is the thing that was is what
I love. This is why I think you're doing what
you need to do is because you these characters have depth,
they have things, other things going on. You know, overcompensating,
you're covering up something. You understand that, and you've brought
in people that I think really can do that and
can groove in it. And everybody has one. She's just
you know, there's you know, she's got this in sadness
(24:13):
and that I see that that she just lets be there,
you know, like even that moment when we the house
my son and she's like like, oh, hey, how are you?
And I was like, I want to play it like,
oh he does care, but he cares about the son.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
This is you know, sorry, the prodigal son. And she's returned.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, she's left kind of there you are. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's interesting too because I was so excited. I feel
like people really responded to that character so much too,
and that's what was so exciting. And I think also,
you know, this idea of a coldness and that being
seen as such a bad like a bad thing, especially
for women, and I feel like for her to play
that and and also kind of do that and it
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be triumphant that by the end she does get to
return to more of like a coldness and not trying
to be what all these people want. I mean, that
was really exciting to me. Kind of being darker, I think,
and in moodier I think was so And that's what
I've always seen in her stand up too. When I
was doing stand up, I was like running around stage
like slapping my ass and throwing on wigs, and she
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was just standing there with a mic and just like
so cold.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And she's kind of sharp, yes restraint, which I admire
so much because I'm not like that. I have a
what do you mean.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Like what? I'll always work with friends. I'm doing everything
with you. Sorry, I just I think I grew up.
I mean I mine was. I grew up with Adam
Sandler movies and then watching like my Rudolph and Kristen
wigg and Amy Poehler and watching them all be in
the each other's projects. I'm like, well, this is who
inspires me, and these are like yeah, I'm like I
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times I feel like I'm fan first for who do you?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Are people you watch you admire people? Like that inspire
you and it sounds like oh yeah comedians, you know
definitely was there a moment when you were like, this
is this is me, this is what I'm want to do,
this is this is.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I do remember seeing Missus Doubtfire when I was really
young and Robin Williams and that and being like, wow,
I just felt so much emotion from him, and I
think he also carried such like a beautiful like everything
he did felt really emotional, but also just being able
to tap into the comedy and yeah, I just I
remember that as a kid like really sticking with me
and being like I would love to do something like
(26:38):
this like he just feels and all of his films,
I think I really like followed them as a kid
and SNL. I mean I when I was in high
school it was the Maya, Rudolph, Jami Polar, Tina Fey,
Kristen Wiggs. So I just got that to me. I
was so I was like electrified by that. Every Saturday
I was watching them, and so I think that really
(26:58):
inspired me. But I don't know. I didn't say I
was a comedian until Mary Beth forced me to before
the show because I was just like I don't know.
I'm just a guy. You're a comedian, no, and you're
a gay guy.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But it was so yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So I always loved film and TV and they were
always places where I felt like very safe. And I
think I told you, but the first time I saw
blue Velvet was in a It was called like senior seminar.
It was a class I took in high school and
that was shout out Missus Simmons. We watched films for
the first time and wrote about them and kind of
(27:34):
analyzed them. That was where I was like, whoa, I
maybe I would want to study this. And at the
time I was still in the closet, so performing wasn't
really on the menu really until I started to come
out and.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You're saying you're like going up on the stage, you
would be like, oh.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I mean me as Danny Zuko would.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
People would not have any questions about yeah, oh okay, yeah, yeah,
we've we've been new.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It would have been two seconds again. So it's like
called just two sports and occasionally, you know run People
would say I run like a girl, which I'd take
as a compliment. I love it. Listen, that's your ass idea?
Why and did I say, why are you watching?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah? Yeah, look at this, Yeah, look at my form?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, what about you? What was your do you have
like a moment where you were like, oh, that's.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Kind of couple. A couple actually, because I was more
high school, we you know, I did the play and
I did the musicals. Kind of everybody kind of did.
There was no stigma to do that. It was like
some of the cool guys, some of the cool guys,
the jocks, were actually in the plays, you know, in
the musicals because it was a cool thing to do. Yeah,
it was. It was like Washington there, you go ahead
(28:42):
of our time. But I remember doing that and having
a great time. Then going to college and going I
gotta think about something serious. I gotta study, you know,
I got what am I going to do? You know?
And I was like, well, I'll take some communication courses,
which is like perfect.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't want to do in communications, of course, I
gotta see that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah. I took public speaking and I was terrible. But
I also just took a drama I took a drama classes. Well,
I just do an acting class, yeah, you know yeah,
And I was like I was like that was pretty good.
I already enjoyed that.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, you're like, shit, I'm kind of absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, like I don't know, like I said.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I but yeah, yeah, sorry, but I was like that
I can't, I can't do this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
But but I was like I was in college. It
was so unhappy. Yeah, and I went, I dropped out
my third quarter. I pledged beta. I was in the
Beta house, was a fraternity. I said, this isn't really
my vibe so much, but my dad was a Beta
and I was like, oh, I'll try to do this.
And I was like, and I just and I took
I took a quarter off, I worked in a mill,
made some money, and that summer I went to summerstock
in North Carolina. Well, and that's when I was like, oh,
(29:50):
I was watching stuff and I got to actually be
a lead character in one of the plays for one
of the weeks that they did it. It was kind of
a big deal. Yeah, And I was like, this is
basically the director is told me everything to do. They
do this, do this, do this. I was like okay,
and I had a really great experience. I was like, wow,
this is really I feel like something is clicking. But
I still was like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I got back to college and there was a program
there that they had that was for a repertory theater
actors three years training to work you know, Shakespeare festivals,
repertory theaters. That was going to be it. And I
watched what they did. I saw I went to a
couple of plays, and I said that I think I
have to do this. Wow. And so I worked really
hard to get accepted into the program, which I was accepted,
and then I went for three years. I was terrible,
(30:34):
just terrible, but I was doing I know what I
wanted to do. And then I just I can't started
working and it was like, this is what I'm going
to do. I had no idea I was going to
make a living. I didn't even think about that. It
was just like I really loved this process, and so
it was it was like a series of doors opening
that kind of made sense.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Sometimes wanting to not want it. Yeah, I know that
I can't love this that much. No, I'm like, no
one will.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Something else has to hell.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Someone in the Pacific Northwest. I want to be an
act Yeah, like they're gonna like I think a dentist
still like one recently asked my dad, like has been okay.
They're like, he's still trying to do the acting.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's kind of rurle, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, They're just like, that's just a job, you know.
So they're like, and I just that was in my
head too. I studied like well, I studied English, so
I don't know what. I wasn't doing communications or anything,
so I don't know like how much more I was
doing just like.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
What are you what are you gonna do with communications?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Want to with that? I didn't even know. That's the
thing too, where people are like was there a backup?
And I'm like, I I think at the time, I
was like I'd love to like help people with music videos,
like I.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Said, ship like, like what is that?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Good luck? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, that was sort of my yeah, just in the
process of my process, which was thank god, you know,
and it sort of why asked myself, why did I
have such a hard time like accepting this clearly something
that I was better at than everything else.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't know still if I don't think I've really
done a play, but I'm dying too, I would one.
We should do one.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I've read somewhere that you were interested in doing that maybe,
I think so.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I almost did one recently, but then it just didn't
work with the show. Yeah, but I was really sad
to not do it because I was like, that would
be I'm yeah. And then randomly, when I was living
in Brooklyn, there was a friend who was doing a
production of Alice in Wonderland and they needed a mad
Hatter and they always had like someone common do the
mad Hatter, and I almost it, but then I couldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That would have been fun.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
The mad had everything.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I mean, I love that, you know, Yeah, that's my Will.
I could see he was you can't oh kay good?
Like Willy Wonka. I mean all those kind of like
old Johnny Depp ones were really huge. I mean that
Willy Wonka was like it was him for Halloween, Like
that was brilliant.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Oh yeah yeah with a little Bob anywhere, I'm will.
You're working there Courtney, right.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Is that the one that has the courtney?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
They changed their hair so much with the Widows. You
can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That was a stroke of brilliance. Whose I think was that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
The wades peak was me. I just I really started
to get it. I did start to really enjoy making
my face look more and more like person. I just
found that, like somehow my face just felt like it
lent itself in makeup.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So I was really close. I was like, it just
doesn't quite look like her. And then I was like,
all right, let me look at her one more time
and see what's different. Yeah, and then there was a
windows and I didn't have a wig, so I took
a that's what it needs, made it and I was like,
we've got it. You know.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
It's funny because I was talking with an after I
really respect, and we were talking about process, and I said,
how do you what where do you drop in to
the character? Is just what's the Ah? I got it,
I got it. You know, it could be those could
be the shoes that you wear, the shoes, and I've
got you know, and from there everything kind of grows.
And he said the voice, he said, and I said,
that's that's interesting. And I said, but I think in
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the process also the look I remember doing mister c
and yeah, twin Peaks of Return, and I remember it's
we're putting the character together kind of a little by
pieces and stuff. And then David did, like this kind
of a dirt stipple on my face. Yeah, and that
I said, I got it.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It is so it sounds so like actory, but it
is that moment where you kind of go, oh, I
know it's connect like I got Yeah, You're just like
it's one little thing where you're like, it's so, that's
so yeah, and it really can be that. It gives
you Yeah, but it gives you the just you know
they're real.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, it gives you the okay the door opened. Yeah,
now I believe it, And now I believe it until
I can make it happen. In the widow's peak, I think.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, it's like widows peaker.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Voice interesting and yeah, the voice is good. I thought
that was an interesting choice because I said, yeah, that
would that would work. Where do you pitch? Where do
you find it?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, Benny, it was so hard because it was like
I am in the closet and some people are believing
it and some people aren't.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So what is that?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
How much do we get to play within? How deep
the goes or how masculine i'm you know, or how
thick my neck is? Like I found I also find
posture to be like really posture and then this sounds
kind of crap, but sometimes I do. It's helpful to
think of how a character would have sex. I know
that's sorry, no no, no, I don't want to talk
(35:16):
about it in front of you. But it's like Seasons
is going to be a lot of this, so we
got to get ready.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But I think it's just it's.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Like helpful to think of them or in a relationship.
I think it's helpful to me exactly how would they
how would they be? You know, that's really you know,
I think.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I really want to ask yourself those questions, like it's
helpful this or this or this where? And because it
does gives you a picture, gives you a feeling more importantly,
and out of that comes behavior. Yeah, movement, I mean
how you interact with somebody, how you might touch someone
or grab someone or just anything like that. Totally.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I had one character where I was like, he would
shower before sex. Yeah, And it's just like to me,
I'm like, oh, I so get it, Like he's just
kind of hell.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I've played characters like that, you know, where it's like
he's just that.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm like, I don't know how I kind of get
all that informs you know, it's just like a little Yeah,
informs everything, and I.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Think that that's that's that's a process or organic process.
But I think it is really really important.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, I got I would love to draw one on you.
I'm gonna do that. I'll bring that way I.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Could do because there was you remember the monsters. Oh yeah, okay,
So Eddie Munster, the little kid had a widow's peak.
And when I was, when I was younger, when I
had more hair, and when my hair was.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Black, literally so much black hair on the rest hanging
in looks great.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But when I was but I looked back when I
was kidd they knew her mind. Because my son has
just got his hair is hoped that you can't even
see the scout. It's like that God, And that's what
my hair was like. And it was jet black and
it was like there was an Eddie Monster thing happening. Yeah,
that was good. And then I had a friend of
mine who actually even looked like him, also black hair,
until we nicknamed him Eddie.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm sure he loved that. He was so excited to
get that God means the world.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
That's it for Eddie Monster, I said, But the widows
speak Yeah, that's a killer.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's a good that's a good thing. Thank you so
much that I miss being Courtney. I wonder I haven't
done her in a while. Yeah, I'm here with I
wonder if just yeah, there we go. There's always Do
you have the one word that help you?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, like if I do watch Oh no, I know,
I don't know. No.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
And then when I did, I did a lawyer and
he was from Texas and the word ring was snow cone. Yeah,
snow cone and I'm locked in, You're locked in?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah? So what was it it, Courtney? I think it
was just human like that to me was just coming
just right. And now I have it. Yeah, Orange just
tear so kind weep.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I'm a big fig fan.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, well of.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Course, yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
How could you not?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah? God, she was fun.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I do remember after though, It's like, you know, family
and friends around me they were like, oh I still
hear Courtney, And I'm like, oh yeah, sorry, I was
in front of the green screen. I'm losing it.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
And she's to be a good sport about it, right,
I mean lovely? Yeah. I think it was Dana Carvey.
He said this. I don't know if he's attributed to him.
But I said, if you want to learn a voice,
because he would do bush, he said, you have to
hear somebody else do the voice, like maybe an extreme version,
and then you learn from them instead of learning from
the person that you're that you're gonna imitate. Yeah, somebody
else has to do it, and you're like, oh, I
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picked that up, you know what I mean. So it's like,
maybe you listen to someone who does a really great version,
you know, and yeah, and go that way. So I
don't know, but you sounds like you went right.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I went to her because I just needed to.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It was also extreme, and we was good.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I think I went pretty extreme because hearing her talk,
I was like, I'm you know, it's a I had
one person gave me like a note once and I
was like, yeah, I mean I am a man doing it.
So just like fuck ah, you know, I'm like, I
think we're okay. This feels like within the world, you know,
I'm we're bracketing here, like chill, Okay, we have a
different we have different chords. Yeah. I watched that and
then one I remember one thing that was Shawn Mendes
(38:57):
was kind of tricky for me at first. But I
just watched a few interviews and sometimes it's just hearing
how they say one or two words, and him saying
levely was really I was like, I know exactly how
to get my voice to sound like that, and that
was like the one. You know. It's just I don't know,
but I do think in hearing someone, I think maybe
I heard Chloe Feineman, do Timothy Shallome ones like, oh,
(39:18):
yeah he's tough, he's really hard, but then he's way
more physical than yeah, you know, it's more like, yeah,
that's I.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Can see you wanting to do it.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I want to I haven't.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Studied them yet, I mean such a.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm like, but I like the extreme ones, you know,
thekan or the but we were playing we were playing
earlier with we should do that. It's David Attenborough. Oh today, Yeah,
we're talking with Benny Trauma.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Oh that's and this is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
See where I got it from?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
But do you get that is in the why.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
He perpetuates the ongoing process of a man, a man
at his peak.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Truly, I wish David would talk about me like that.
Fuck he will. That was delicious.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's really good.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
He's but I need an extreme, you know, I have.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I have one for you. It's Daniel Craig in Night's Out.
There's been a I can't stop saying it. Saying it
to Mary Bedtune, she goes, oh, here's been wa But
he came into that movie, was such a hot take
on it. Oh it's an accent.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, it's it's breath taking.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah. I think about it a lot. I have to
remember that. I have to watch it again get a
sense of him. Well, we should be in one. It
seems kind of fucked up at this point. I think
so too, But I think that's the joy. It's like yeah,
because I thought that too. With Parker Posey and White Lotus.
The first episode, I was like, oh, I don't know
this accent, like, and then by the middle I was like,
it's just like it's a stroke of genius. Yeah, this
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accent is like it is such a choice in it,
like and it delivers.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It was me like watching Peter Dinklage in Game of Thrones,
like it's not English necessarily no, but what is it?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
But yeah? But I was like, yeah, but go I.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Not Yeah, great, Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
We're going to a break, so we'll see you. We'll
be back. Don't go away for this segment I designed
just for you. I've cribbed a bit from you and
Mary Beth's segment Perfect Ride, And this is called can
(41:42):
I give you a ride? Question?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
And I wish I would be careful drove here, which
is not I should be allowed.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
All right, so you're good. I'm going to give you
these glasses because I don't I don't want you to
get any bugs.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
On your ones.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I do whoa, Okay, I'm gonna listen. I'm gonna List'm
gonna put some on too. Does that look do you
think that great?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's the face of Balcia? You guys get that? No
free ads believe that?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
What do you talk about our shirts? That this this
is I wore this and you wore that.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
And then there's something that's crazy that's called the family.
That's family in my head. Now I can't see, but
I can't ye yes, but I did. I'm gonna close
my eyes.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Now, okay, bi color, any color?
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Oh my god, I know it's a very red pill,
blue pillar? Yes, what's gonna look better with with us?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
To me?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I'm blue blue, So.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I'll go red, I'll go read. Okay, you're gonna tell
me if you I'm going to tell you a few
things I write for and you're gonna tell me if
you ye also ride.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You need crookies on those. This is what I need.
You knew that exactly that term.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I was in the yard showing uh, shawing up some
bamboo and the sweating, and they kept falling.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Hate with my head in my right, I'm gonna go
with I might have to take that for season two.
I was sawing bamboo, bamboo.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I'm ready, I'm gardening in the backyard. Okay, we're gonna write.
We're gonna ride, if you ride with me, whether it's okay,
you're ready.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, here we go to me. It's like, yeah, this
is okay, good.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
And we're kind of moving. Remember how you do with shots,
like if you have the driving scenes?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
So the only book things I've written for myself. Oh,
I don't know, I don't really I haven't done that,
but I'm dying.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
A driving scene. Yeah, Oh, let's do it. It's hard to yeah,
because it's a good place for conversations.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Like a parent in an uber is so explosive. You
know I feel that. Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I ride for wearing indoor shoes outdoors.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh yeah, I absolutely. I slap on an UG and
I ripped through. Yes, yeah, that a slipper little bear pod.
If you're getting nasty, I think that's good. Yeah, that's
the shoe of choice.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I like the UG. I think your suggestion was right.
Perfect fuzzy fuzzy inside has to be a slippery fuzzy inside.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Would I then wear them into like a bed or
put them on the couch? Probably not.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
No, you bring them inside, but you could wear them
inside depending on what you walk through on the outside.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Something.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Did you just leave him at the door? I love
leaving at the door. A little clog, deal with it.
I ride for gardening, so I'm glad you do.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I personally don't, but I love that you do.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Wait, so you grew up in Boise, but there's no gardening.
Well I just thought it was the thing you did
in the Northwest, like.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Kind of my mom does. Like my mom loves her garden,
and but you leave her to it.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah yeah, I think I.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Just plants see me come in and they're like, get thirsty. Yeah, yes,
but I do I love the thought of you out there,
and I love going to someone's garden that they're really
proud of. Good will have you over, having little tomatoes,
a little little blueberry why not?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yes, controversial take, But I ride for Steve Brady.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Okay, sure, I think that's fantastic. From Sex and the City,
that's what you're in. For a second, I thought, is
that an athlete? Steve Brady? One hundred percent I ride.
I think he's fantastic. I think I recently, I mean
I recently told Kristin that I thought.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
I mean he yeah, he's ten Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Hey he's no Tao no, but yes, I mean he's
got really quiet ultimate ultimately, but I think he's I
think he's fantastic and he's so you know, you guys
on the road keep you of course, sorry, but to me, yeah,
I I really did like them together.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
They were kind of a beautiful They ride for being
silly on social media. I mean, come on, I go,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I want to be really serious.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
You are social media.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
It's very moody.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
We're driving a little fast right now, so a little
bit because you're getting.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
See this is why I'm not allowed to drive cars.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
This is silly on social.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, I and yours is you inspire me.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Oh that's nice to hear things.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
I get sometimes scared of TikTok because I feel like
I didn't come up on it.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
So sometimes I have my I have a team here
there is They're absolutely genius and they helped exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
They help.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
They're my GUIDs. Tears Okay, I ride for Kale. Oh
yeah right, I mean you're healthy Kales.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Sometimes when I'm eating it, it does. I look up after
two hours and I think I'm still eating this.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
But I do like because you're not full. Kale doesn't
fill you up.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
It does.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I think it does make me bloated, but it does gas. Yeah,
of course, but I do. I love Kale.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Kale's great.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I put it smoothie.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I like a little bit of like a little I
like a salt oil, a little bit of honey, oh
ship and tiny bit of boom and a cigarette and
well you know what, I love them, right, Kale Caesar, Well,
Kale is my nickname from David. Oh yeah, I love Yeah,
he called me Kale. It wasn't and he wasn't the
one who who thought of it originally. Well, he thought
(46:36):
of calling me Kale. It was the late producer Dino
Dayla Renis who who couldn't pronounce Kyle Kale, and David
loved that. That's it from now on, I'm Kale.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
We're driving off a cliff right now.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Definitely, we've driven off the cliff. We're fine moment.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
I ride for the nerd emoji?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Oh is that the little teeth in the glasses?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So cute.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Love.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
I don't know if I've ever used it, but I
I love receiving it. I mean, how cute.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I don't know. I because my nerd emoji or them
I go with, I mean a thumbs up a lot,
hark a lot. I like the emoji with the two
the kind of the ice was kind of squinting clothes
and smiling. Oh. I like that, Like, oh god, that
was maybe that was too much.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I like the one where it's a he's kind of like.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Oh yes, yeah, laughing behind.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
I feel like that a lot.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
I'm like, oh, life is so embarrassed and said that,
Yeah cute.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Here what the fucka Oh, here's a good one. I
ride for Chow Chow's the dog read.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Oh yeah, what you thought about that? Huh?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I love chow.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
I love chow chows. I don't know if I want
to shoot with the chow chow again. I think chow
chouse prefer camera diplomatic, but I think they're they're beautiful.
Dog Scott King, that wonderful showerunner over compensating. Yeah, and
he's such a king. So I love I love chachaus,
butch puppies that's another story, you know, maybe off camera.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, off camera, very good, very good. I ride for
being a podcast host.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, because you imagine, I go die. I'm so glad
you are one. Now.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
I'm having so much fun.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I know you are.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
I'm kind. I didn't really know getting into it. I
was like, you know what, I'm actually really enjoying this
because I get to learn, and yeah, I am curious
and I get to learn and ask questions. And I
think that's it. Ride. How far do we balked up? Well,
we know what's coming up for you.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Yeah, you're going into the writer's room right now, and
you're going to write beautiful stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I'm going into a k hole for a bit and
then all once I climb back out, I've got to
have some gifts for you.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
I'm so excited me too. I'm always excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But I know you now. Yeah, I just bother you whenever.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
You can bother me whenever except for yes, never mind.
But it's been a real pleasure. It's been a real pleasure.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
That'll talk to you forever.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Okay, everybody else, bless your heart. I love you too.
We're in for another season. Thanks for coming on. That's
our show. We uh and we're sticking to it. Did
we discover what are we even doing? I don't know
if we did, but we had a good time doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (49:12):
What are we even doing?
Speaker 1 (49:13):
We're family, We're doing this. It's working, We're creating. Whatever
we're doing, we're having fun.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
We're having fun. There you go. What Are We Even
Doing is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis Duran
podcast Network, hosted by Me Kyle McLachlin and created and
produced by Full Picture Productions Yay, featuring music by Yata
and artwork by Danica Robinson. For more information about the podcast,
(49:38):
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I'm here with Daddy.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ah, Daddy's looking good.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
You're my hero.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I didn't know you were a dick yet, very similar
to golf wed J. This is my fourth well, it's
my fleabag camera. I can't really wake up before seven
unless it's for overcompensating.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And you have some exciting news about that we're doing
season two.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Like are you thick? Like your son's gay? And did
I say, why are you watch it?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I've been thinking about the Oregon coast a lot lately.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
The dogs become really important.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I think little Bob, well.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Any excuse to wear way? That's the face of Balnciaga.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Do you guys get that?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hey, he's no chain toogal now. But we shouldn't be
allowed to podcast, No, we shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What do we even do? What are we even doing?
By the way, ladies and gentlemen, this is what are
we even doing? And we're here with Benny Drama. I'm
here with Daddy Oh, and we just search some really
really good news we're going to get to so, as
you know, we we are interviewing actors, creators all type
(00:55):
about their world, their creative world, how they use social media,
what's happening. We get weird together in a good way,
and today we have it. I'm going to do a
proper introduction brilliant comedian, writer, actor, podcast host Idaho.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And oh yeah before acting of course they do.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Of course, and my on screen biological song yes blood relative, Yeah,
almost only because you're from Bois and I'm from Yakama. Yeah,
and we can talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The relations somewhere.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
There is definitely cross over there. I am happy, happy,
happy to be here with you. You're my hero, pleas your
bless your heart.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So we do podcasts together a lot. This is kind
of our thing now.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I think it could be because we did the one
for a twenty four Yeah, explosive and talk to Yeah,
yeah it was. It was fantastic. Yeah, talking about overcompensating
so fun. And you have some exciting news about that.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I think we can share.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, we're doing season two.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We're going back.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We're going back.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
There's one hundred people here. Yeah, yes, the audience.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm so excited because I started to tell you a
few things I wanted us to do, but I was
just saying, like, you don't want to fall in love
too much with storylines and stuff. I'm like, please just
let this happen. So now I'm just like, I'm a
nightmare to have dinner with right now because I'll just
literally in the middle of a story. I'll be like,
so then Carmen's trying to get Benny's skinny jeans off right,
and they're just like cool. You like you're not here.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's like you're already writing, You're in the writers You're
already working it. Are you going to stay here and
do the writer's room here in La?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I think we're gonna do a little bit in New York.
A few of the writers are there, Wally and Mary
Beth are doing the room with me as well, so,
which would be so fun. But we do it on zoom,
you know, which works. Yeah, so we kind of I
think we're going to do a mix of in person
in zoom this time. Last time it was just zoom,
which I think was good for me because I had
never done a room before, so I was like I
(02:48):
needed something to you know, fidget with things. Yeah, so nervous,
and yeah, I was with like peers and people I've
like looked up to, and yeah, you just get so.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You've seemed to be like you handled yourself really really well.
I mean, and that's of course watching you going to
filming when I was there and just how you handle
everything and just you know, like a pro.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That is so nice to hear you say that, because
when you came in, I have never been more nervous.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And the first thing we did was.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You and my room changes, like where you put on
my close and I remember just being like I had
this really weird moment where I find this all the
time where it's like hearing your voice is what really
freaked me out. The mom It's like hearing your voice
and Connie's voice they're actually here.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Oh yeah, And I just was midn And then also
I have the thing too where then I just start
to watch like it's so fun because you've.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Written the you know words, and now you get to
watch like cal McLaughlin's doing it, and I so yeah,
I'm kind of like sitting back. I was like, oh fuck,
I'm in the scene with him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Let mean I did that at the dinner table scene.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You got to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You're like, yeah, oh yeah, I did engage with you.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Sorry, yeah, but oh I love an audience and that
was fun to the dinner scene. Oh my god, well
what he had written was so perfect. I was just like, oh,
I'm gonna take this as far as I can the.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Way you did.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And I wrote that was Scott King and that is
one of those scenes. And he had known Connie for
so like they had worked together.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Oh I didn't know, okay, okay, it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Was just like and you were our dreamcast, so it
was like we I think that was one of the
easiest things to edit. Like that was one of those
things where also the first time I watched it was
what is on screen? Like it was just like that
scene is so and with the lights and we played
with the light flickering a lot and posted the one
part I broke and I'm so bad. I break in
every scene, but with the you.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Know, yeah, yeah, it's just like, I mean, that was
such a that was such a brilliant, brilliant idea. I
don't know, you know, you.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Have these things and like experience. I had so many
friends parents who were all doing in visil line at
the same time, okay, and I don't know why, but
it was like I think maybe for their kids weddings.
They were all like I'm getting straight teeth, like my
parents did it, and then Mary Beth had done it randomly,
and then her I think maybe her mom had done it,
like just an assortment of parents. So I was like,
(05:08):
let's give him envissile, and I thought maybe I didn't.
I mean, I assumed you were the best. I didn't
know you were a dick yet. But I was just like,
I think he'll be down.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And then right now day one in the.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Trailer, you were like trying on my enviscile.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yes, I'm so excited. It's gonna how I'm going to talk.
It was good. Just it just informs a character so
so much. Those little things that you lay in really
support the character. What you're doing. You know what I
mean to take and just make it very easy. So
I was nervous at first day too. I'm walking in,
I'm like, I got to take my shirt off now,
and I'm like, okay, I'm a man of a certain age.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
My daddy, Daddy's like, good do the best he can.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
No, in the take, I should have gone ship dad, Yeah,
right that one mile up and down the block?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You ate that up?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh yeah, no I can't. We kind of threw you
into the deep end there but fantastic.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I love it. I love it. I love working with Connie.
She is so I had not worked there before. I
mean to kne who she was. Of course, she has
that rare quality where I can't tell if she knows
that she's funny or what she just is.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh, it's so, you know, It's like that is such
a perfect way of describing her, because it's I think
she you know, maybe in the back of her mind.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Nose, but I think there's something.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Where she like knows she has the power in the scene.
Because I always felt that I'm like she it doesn't
feel like someone trying to be seen by the camera
in a way, and I felt the same way with you.
It's just like it's there, which I think is a
tendency in comedy. Is like I have to make sure
the camera sees the bit I'm doing, whereas I feel
like in every take with both of you, you were
(06:42):
doing such different things and that was so exciting to
see the interesting you say that because I think when
I first started, I was like much more aware of
the camera and much more aware of like matching things
and is catching everything.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And then as I kind of, you know, went got
older and went through things. I was like, you know what,
more and more it's about like trying not to show
just the thing and not even the cameras like it's
gonna get what it's going to get.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
The play of it, like watching both of you play. Yeah,
she has that crazy monologue out with the dogs, and
she also chow chow puppies are not relaxed and they're
not particularly sweet, and sometimes the chow chow community is
going to come for me, you see my trauma from
having a podcast big. I'm like, I love chow Chow's,
by the way, but watching her do that, there was
(07:25):
no take that was similar. She just like and the
way she would riff. And also she has this line
where she's like, I didn't and it was one of
my favorite lines to write because it felt so like
what my mom would say. She's like, I didn't want
to do J jail because it would ruin it. I
didn't want to ruin it for me, so I did
J Crue Factory And just her saying that she kind
of threw it away and I was like, God, she's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You're so smart. Yeah, I want to ask you about
growing up in a small town in the Northwest. Yeah,
because we share that You're from Boise, Idaho. I'm from Yakama, Washington. Yeah.
I think the two towns are very similar. Can Napoleon
was Napoleon died and.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It was it was in I think Rexburg, Idaho.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Okay, yeah, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I've described it as this and and now everyone around
me is like, sure, I guess that makes kind of sense.
But we grew up with the sawtooth mountains go through
Voice beautiful, and so I every morning, like at the
end of my drive, like I could see the mountains
where we would ski in the winter, and it helped
me with direction. So everywhere I go, I know, based
on I find my mountain. Ye, yeah, I know where
(08:28):
I am. So nothing else in my personality would make
it seem like I'm good at directions, but I'm actually good.
And I think it's because of growing up with a
view that having.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think I agree with you, you know, reference exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this is my week.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
We didn't have any mountains. We could see the cascades
so pretty, and we could see some of the mountains
like Mount Rain near Mount Adams. We couldn't see Mount
Saint Helen's. But there was a few that we could see.
And so that's the way you got your we got
I got my remember where things are? You know, Helen?
But saw tooths are those are some beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That's why I think sometimes people think Idaho flat or Midwest.
No hate to that, No, no, I love you. Yeah,
but it's the this is my fourth wall. It's my
flea bag camera right here, which is yours.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yours.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's just like, I'm like, it's so funny that you're
thinking of Idaho. It's like because to me, I'm like,
it's mountains, like mountains and Mount Saint Helen is so funny.
My grandparents flew over it five hours before it went off.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's where that get here on the back, I know it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And I grew up with crazy hearing about Mount Saint
Helens for so that was like, you know, that crazed
my family all golf, So we were like driving around. Yeah,
that's why I was always in Washington and and see
you golf.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Wa do we talk about this? So because I grew
up on the golf team in high school, I wasn't.
I wasn't very all my siblings did. I I did.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Football, and then when I was in college, I did
radio DJ SO, but all my siblings played college golf
very similar to GOLFO well of course, well yeah, it's
like it's either if one doesn't work, you have Okay,
golf was tricky for me.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I'm not patient.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I well so yeah and also.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah exactly like I remember I was doing it one
morning and I probably was like nine. This guy was
keeping scoring. He was like the dad of one of
the kids I was playing with, so like, I don't know,
they just all bothered me, yea yea yeah, and I
got like it took me an eleven shots to get
out of the sand trap on this one hole, and
then I just by the end, I was just so
fucking pissed. And the guy to me was like, you
know what's great about golf is that you have the
(10:27):
next hole and it's just a total, it's just a wash,
like it's just all new. And I was like, yeah,
that's really cool. You're still going to count that.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Fifteen I shot on that last whole, right yeah, And
then I was just like I shouldn't play this, like
some of my parents put me into track instead of
spring oh and I could you.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Could dash and that would be yeah. But that football
and track.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, that was good. Was the classic sports. And of
course golf was not cool when I was when I
was in school, it was not cool.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
See it kind of got like I got my siblings,
it being kind of you know, is the Tiger Woods
of golf at that.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Was when it was good and now it's kind of
gone back, I think into some other.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I don't know what it is. I don't I don't
know if I'm allowed on courses anymore. But I love
taking a you know, whack at it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah. Yeah, so that's high school. Did you do sports
in college Georgetown? No.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I was the first of my family did not play
a sport. But still, like I mean, I've always kind
of been like a semi gym guy, you know. I
love like I was maybe going to do like a
running team and then or a running club. You know.
They kind of really scout intensely for crew on those
East Go schools for sure, So I thought about that,
but I can't really like unless it's for overcomptable.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I got to be on camera, but did you you
didn't row? I mean, yeah, because you imagine going to.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
The tub.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
At the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I would have been probably a little tricky, and boys
we had to drive to like ketch him or McCall
which or you catch well, actually, no, there's no lake
in Ketcham. I'm going to get right for that, McCall.
I haven't been home.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
People love to say that to me, and I'm like,
sometimes I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I think I was just sad movie theaters.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I love it. I just love the Northwest. I do,
I really. I mean, it's a certain to it, and
so there's a scent and a smell and a look
in tree right, I'm really trying about the news, about
the news about coming back. It's gonna be great. I
think we have one of the great father son relationships
(12:31):
and there's more to mine, you know what I mean
about that relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, like almost Connie got more of the emotional beats
in this season, you know, which I think does make
sense for a lot of these experiences of you know,
when people come out. I think moms have a different
relationship to it than dads in a way.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I've just been rereading this book, The Velvet Rage, which
is kind of about this experience of being in the
closet and as you come out and and how that
manifests in different ways for you, you know, and how
it I think kind of changes who you are. And
it talks about that too, the relationship between parents, and
so I think, you know, looking into season two, I
am excited for also there more emotion, I think.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, I'm usually I'm curious about the journey. I'm looking
forward to the journey because I think, at the end
of the day, this is this person is your flesh
and blood, right, this is your son or your daughter,
and that supersedes everything. Of course, I mean, there's nothing whatever,
whatever they're going through, whatever's happening, you know, you find acceptance,
You find a way to understand you. You work towards
that if you're having a difficulty, if it's not just immediate,
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you know, because you just can't be denied. The relationship
can't be denied. So I'm really I'm curious to find
out how if my character sort of finds his way
to connect with you.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's also I'm now having, you know, this excitement with
writing season two of like I get to write for
you, you know, it's like the dream before of you know,
and now I get to know that it's Waally yeah, yeah, yeah, sure,
and yeah, I think that's what's kind of yeah to
go and a confidence with with you now, you know.
It's like I like, that is so exciting to me
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that I'm like, I know you and I know also
and being on set with you, I'm like, how what
would be like fun and enjoyable as an actor to
get to do with you and play But you know,
I think I told you. It's it's so interesting. It's
like parents go through this journey and then at the
other side of it, they're like wearing pride merch yes,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And it's just like so funny.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
You can see that happening and she's like, well, well
now it's like, yeah, let's get let's get in at.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
The north face pride merch. Yes, my dad does, and
he looks greted.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm like hell yeah, king.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like light that up and he's like check it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I'm like I love the rainbow fabulous, yes, but all
that's all.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
That's going to awaken, which I think is really fun
and just.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like I love doing bits with I mean just you
having bits and parent bits are fun to just.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I lean to dad bits, you know me like yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And I want to see the J Crew Factory with Connie.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
That would be fun too. I really want to. We
gotta find them all, well, you know, and I do.
And I actually love that relationship too. I love the
fact that I think you really believe that we're parents, Yeah,
that have been together for a long time and you know,
gone through all sorts of different things, and you know
we're connected, we're together, but we're also doing our own
thing and you know, now we're all gone.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So it's like I think that you know, we were
talking about it in the writer's room. Everyone kind of
had different stories of when they left and what their
parents how that affected their parents' lives because they were like, well,
they've just given eighteen years to being so focused on you.
Now they're trying to rEFInd out who they are without
you in the house, and then almost coming back together
and re meeting each other, yes, like not parents, but
(15:33):
as like partners.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yehich I think is really that. I think that's that's
that's really true. In fact, we're my wife and I
are facing our sons and a rising in a senior year.
He's just started a senior so one year and he's
off somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
We only have one, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's a little I'm not going to terrify.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
The dogs become really important.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I think, oh, the dogs. My mom is absolutely the
dogs become huge.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Absolutely God which is we're on that way.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
My dogs smell better than any human I met, Like,
it's explosive. I go, oh, just the coats on those goldens. Sorry,
we didn't do golden so goldens would have been easier.
So then Scott King, our showrunner, loves cow Chow's, so
that's why we did twelve.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I was I going on, really going to chow Land.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, well it's one of these Okay, so going to
chow Land, Okay, clip that?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
But there was that, Yeah, I heard clip that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
But that's one of those things where you write in
a script and this is something that it sounds like.
So I feel very lucky that this is true. But
you'll write something in a script and you've read it
so many times you don't even really read the stage
direction anymore. So I kind of forget sometimes. But then
obviously a production designer, you know, everyone is is like, well,
(16:47):
this is what's in script, and like we want to
make the world come to life. As like the writers
have written, so it would be something like that where
all of a sudden they're like, yeah, and you wanted
this girl to have a service dog that was a poodle, right,
And I'm like yeah, and they're like, well, We've looked
all over Toronto. We found one. And I was just like,
oh my gosh, it's so bad. I'm like, we could
have easily because like your wishes their command just like
(17:08):
they're like, yeah, this is the way, and I'm like,
oh my god, I just didn't much time.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Did you spend exactly cost?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And what did it take?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Shout out Josh who found those childs for you? I
think that took a really long time to find chow
chow puppies that were okay to be filmed, Yeah, and
be handled by an actor.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, it was so yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, next time I'll be maybe a little things.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, do you have any requests?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
We're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I'm gonna talk a little bit too about because we
talk about were commentating a lot, but I'm very excited
about that. We're gonna shoot in Toronto. What do we know?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't know. Campuses are hard. Shooting on campuses is tricky,
so trying to figure that out. And during this school year.
School year we had we had one night that was
so it was one of those things where then after
you just feel like this is so cool that this
is like really happening. But we were shooting on campus
with me and Wally and we were doing a golf
(18:02):
cart sequence and then this one where we're walking and
you know, I say that I'm super picky with girls,
and then I asked her and she's like, I'm not
picky at all with God. And we look up after
a take because we kept hearing like people time. We
were like what and there was like a high school
camp that they had within the dorms. In there they
were it was an entire row of these like high
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school boys filming us and filming her. I was just like, yeah,
we should probably do it on a closed this decision
I saw I still get, you know, tagged in those videos,
and I'm like, that's like, there you go.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
That was a private Having a successful show, you know,
you just gonna be yeah, you're gonna be hrdhlighted. So
but you've done some really fun characters too. So I
was not familiar with these characters when we were together,
but looked into some of them.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's scary.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I don't think that you're doing these anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
But it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Deliverance Richard just one that I got a kick out of.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
She would love you, Yeah, to sell you a vineyard
all in. I miss her a lot. I really do
miss being Deliverance. She was she is kind of just me.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You're just free association, going crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Just going to town like.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I love her.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I did her because I was I was looking for
a place, and I kept meeting with different realitors, and
every single time I found that a few of them
I met with. Anything I said, they went with. And
then so I would be like, yeah, I really liked it,
and They're like, isn't it the best? And I'm like, yeah,
but this one thing, you know, I'm not loving. They're like, right,
like I fucking lived there and kill myself before it.
(19:34):
And I'm like, okay, do you like it or not?
Like wait, should I not get it? And I just
and the outfits and the selling sunset.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And the fingernails and remember the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I love having. I wear like gloves and I wear
like hats. I did a pregnant belly at one point
just because I was like, I think she'd be pregnant
still walk in this, you know. So she was fun.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
That was one of my favorite. Jenny the TMI hair
shy list scared me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You'd love to give you a cut.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, I bet you would. I just don't still give
you a die job. I would just be like, I'm
a deer in headlights. I'm like, oh no, was there
one that you were like, oh, this is close to me,
just one of the characters that you created?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh my god, you know what's funny. I actually one
of the first characters I did was Haley, who became
the character in the show played by Holmes so brilliantly.
One of the most talented people I've met, and I
that was something where we had done a stand up
show together like two years maybe two years prior to shooting.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think that's what they said. They said, yes, that's
how you met.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
We met in backstage. It was at the Allegiant Theater
and it was very kind of this like small little
backstage that they have, and it was like immediately foreheads touching,
you know, We're in the corner just like talking to agent,
just throwing up in each other's mouth and then she
had this incredible set and I was like, got she's good.
And then when we were auditioning people, she read for
Carmen and Scott King sent it to me and he
(20:52):
was like, wow, she's like incredible. Yeah, and I was like,
oh my god, what and I said, get her on
tape for him. Haley ran. Now I have never laughed
like that. And I love that character so much because
it was like this first character I developed. Yeah, you
know I initially she was a character that I had
where it's like a girl who just got back from abroad,
and then I kind of used her for a bunch
of different things like that, and this kind of I think,
(21:15):
like bad out of Hell that arrives at college was
so I mean, she writing that part is like a
gay man's strength and having someone like hands come in,
it's just and you know what, the way she did
it is that she believed everything she said, and like,
I think that's why people have responded so well to it.
It's because you know, she came in and she was
you know, it's like what you're saying where something's just
(21:37):
inform the character. She was just like she is so loyal,
she's obsessed with Carmen like she's she might even be
in love with her, and I'm like, I love this,
like this every she just found a reason why all
of it made sense to her and none of it
was what I think some people could read on the page.
And also why I think Adam DeMarco was so great.
It's he was like, it's not a bimbo, and she
(21:57):
was like, you know, this isn't a bimbo.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
It's an kid who.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Wants to be loved and seen hasn't been seen in
the right way.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And I just an absolute truth, like there's you can't
she can't be dishonest, which I think is such an
extraordinary quality. Absolutely, you really feel that the performance, So yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Anyone were to do with Hailey, Oh, She's fun.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
To write and knowing that I'm putting in my my head,
I'd love to seeing. I'd love to.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
See ye oh, I would love that be like your
son's gay. Wait yeah, you know, like like are you
thick like your son's gay?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah? Yeah, like with her already yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
What you've done with overcommisating is you the people that
you know, your friends, yeah, people that you worked with
that you know within the circuits that the comedy circuit.
The dramas are in the show, and you brought them,
and you brought them and you know them, and you
bring them and you let them do their thing. Like
Marybeth is a great I loved working with her soul much.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
It's so funny when we did those first the photos
of the family, anyone who I showed it to, they're like,
I kind of get it, Like they're like, I know
who got each Like feature, I know who's I was
so glad you got to do that. We did episode
seven with the parents and that you got to see
because that was I think such an amazing showcase of
(23:25):
why I have always responded to her comedy and think
she's so brilliant, and that performance that she gives at
the dinner table, and and even that really sad sequence
in the bathroom where she's kind of dressed herself up
and her mom compliments it and it feels good, but
she doesn't want to show that it feels too good.
I just love her in that episode was really for her.
It was like we wanted it to be a showcase
of I think this a great moment for Benny, but
(23:47):
it was so much more about her and the parents
and like finding like this family.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You see, this is the thing that was is what
I love. This is why I think you're doing what
you need to do is because you these characters have depth,
they have things, other things going on. You know, overcompensating,
you're covering up something. You understand that, and you've brought
in people that I think really can do that and
can groove in it. And everybody has one. She's just
you know, there's you know, she's got this in sadness
(24:13):
and that I see that that she just lets be there,
you know, like even that moment when we the house
my son and she's like like, oh, hey, how are you?
And I was like, I want to play it like,
oh he does care, but he cares about the son.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
This is you know, sorry, the prodigal son. And she's returned.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, she's left kind of there you are. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's interesting too because I was so excited. I feel
like people really responded to that character so much too,
and that's what was so exciting. And I think also,
you know, this idea of a coldness and that being
seen as such a bad like a bad thing, especially
for women, and I feel like for her to play
that and and also kind of do that and it
(25:01):
be triumphant that by the end she does get to
return to more of like a coldness and not trying
to be what all these people want. I mean, that
was really exciting to me. Kind of being darker, I think,
and in moodier I think was so And that's what
I've always seen in her stand up too. When I
was doing stand up, I was like running around stage
like slapping my ass and throwing on wigs, and she
(25:22):
was just standing there with a mic and just like
so cold.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And she's kind of sharp, yes restraint, which I admire
so much because I'm not like that. I have a
what do you mean.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Like what? I'll always work with friends. I'm doing everything
with you. Sorry, I just I think I grew up.
I mean I mine was. I grew up with Adam
Sandler movies and then watching like my Rudolph and Kristen
wigg and Amy Poehler and watching them all be in
the each other's projects. I'm like, well, this is who
inspires me, and these are like yeah, I'm like I
(26:00):
times I feel like I'm fan first for who do you?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Are people you watch you admire people? Like that inspire
you and it sounds like oh yeah comedians, you know
definitely was there a moment when you were like, this
is this is me, this is what I'm want to do,
this is this is.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I do remember seeing Missus Doubtfire when I was really
young and Robin Williams and that and being like, wow,
I just felt so much emotion from him, and I
think he also carried such like a beautiful like everything
he did felt really emotional, but also just being able
to tap into the comedy and yeah, I just I
remember that as a kid like really sticking with me
and being like I would love to do something like
(26:38):
this like he just feels and all of his films,
I think I really like followed them as a kid
and SNL. I mean I when I was in high
school it was the Maya, Rudolph, Jami Polar, Tina Fey,
Kristen Wiggs. So I just got that to me. I
was so I was like electrified by that. Every Saturday
I was watching them, and so I think that really
(26:58):
inspired me. But I don't know. I didn't say I
was a comedian until Mary Beth forced me to before
the show because I was just like I don't know.
I'm just a guy. You're a comedian, no, and you're
a gay guy.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But it was so yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So I always loved film and TV and they were
always places where I felt like very safe. And I
think I told you, but the first time I saw
blue Velvet was in a It was called like senior seminar.
It was a class I took in high school and
that was shout out Missus Simmons. We watched films for
the first time and wrote about them and kind of
(27:34):
analyzed them. That was where I was like, whoa, I
maybe I would want to study this. And at the
time I was still in the closet, so performing wasn't
really on the menu really until I started to come
out and.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You're saying you're like going up on the stage, you
would be like, oh.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I mean me as Danny Zuko would.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
People would not have any questions about yeah, oh okay, yeah, yeah,
we've we've been new.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It would have been two seconds again. So it's like
called just two sports and occasionally, you know run People
would say I run like a girl, which I'd take
as a compliment. I love it. Listen, that's your ass idea?
Why and did I say, why are you watching?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah? Yeah, look at this, Yeah, look at my form?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, what about you? What was your do you have
like a moment where you were like, oh, that's.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Kind of couple. A couple actually, because I was more
high school, we you know, I did the play and
I did the musicals. Kind of everybody kind of did.
There was no stigma to do that. It was like
some of the cool guys, some of the cool guys,
the jocks, were actually in the plays, you know, in
the musicals because it was a cool thing to do. Yeah,
it was. It was like Washington there, you go ahead
(28:42):
of our time. But I remember doing that and having
a great time. Then going to college and going I
gotta think about something serious. I gotta study, you know,
I got what am I going to do? You know?
And I was like, well, I'll take some communication courses,
which is like perfect.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't want to do in communications, of course, I
gotta see that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah. I took public speaking and I was terrible. But
I also just took a drama I took a drama classes. Well,
I just do an acting class, yeah, you know yeah,
And I was like I was like that was pretty good.
I already enjoyed that.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, you're like, shit, I'm kind of absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, like I don't know, like I said.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I but yeah, yeah, sorry, but I was like that
I can't, I can't do this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
But but I was like I was in college. It
was so unhappy. Yeah, and I went, I dropped out
my third quarter. I pledged beta. I was in the
Beta house, was a fraternity. I said, this isn't really
my vibe so much, but my dad was a Beta
and I was like, oh, I'll try to do this.
And I was like, and I just and I took
I took a quarter off, I worked in a mill,
made some money, and that summer I went to summerstock
in North Carolina. Well, and that's when I was like, oh,
(29:50):
I was watching stuff and I got to actually be
a lead character in one of the plays for one
of the weeks that they did it. It was kind of
a big deal. Yeah, And I was like, this is
basically the director is told me everything to do. They
do this, do this, do this. I was like okay,
and I had a really great experience. I was like, wow,
this is really I feel like something is clicking. But
I still was like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I got back to college and there was a program
there that they had that was for a repertory theater
actors three years training to work you know, Shakespeare festivals,
repertory theaters. That was going to be it. And I
watched what they did. I saw I went to a
couple of plays, and I said that I think I
have to do this. Wow. And so I worked really
hard to get accepted into the program, which I was accepted,
and then I went for three years. I was terrible,
(30:34):
just terrible, but I was doing I know what I
wanted to do. And then I just I can't started
working and it was like, this is what I'm going
to do. I had no idea I was going to
make a living. I didn't even think about that. It
was just like I really loved this process, and so
it was it was like a series of doors opening
that kind of made sense.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Sometimes wanting to not want it. Yeah, I know that
I can't love this that much. No, I'm like, no
one will.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Something else has to hell.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Someone in the Pacific Northwest. I want to be an
act Yeah, like they're gonna like I think a dentist
still like one recently asked my dad, like has been okay.
They're like, he's still trying to do the acting.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's kind of rurle, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, They're just like, that's just a job, you know.
So they're like, and I just that was in my
head too. I studied like well, I studied English, so
I don't know what. I wasn't doing communications or anything,
so I don't know like how much more I was
doing just like.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
What are you what are you gonna do with communications?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Want to with that? I didn't even know. That's the
thing too, where people are like was there a backup?
And I'm like, I I think at the time, I
was like I'd love to like help people with music videos,
like I.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Said, ship like, like what is that?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Good luck? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, that was sort of my yeah, just in the
process of my process, which was thank god, you know,
and it sort of why asked myself, why did I
have such a hard time like accepting this clearly something
that I was better at than everything else.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't know still if I don't think I've really
done a play, but I'm dying too, I would one.
We should do one.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I've read somewhere that you were interested in doing that maybe,
I think so.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I almost did one recently, but then it just didn't
work with the show. Yeah, but I was really sad
to not do it because I was like, that would
be I'm yeah. And then randomly, when I was living
in Brooklyn, there was a friend who was doing a
production of Alice in Wonderland and they needed a mad
Hatter and they always had like someone common do the
mad Hatter, and I almost it, but then I couldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That would have been fun.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
The mad had everything.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I mean, I love that, you know, Yeah, that's my Will.
I could see he was you can't oh kay good?
Like Willy Wonka. I mean all those kind of like
old Johnny Depp ones were really huge. I mean that
Willy Wonka was like it was him for Halloween, Like
that was brilliant.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Oh yeah yeah with a little Bob anywhere, I'm will.
You're working there Courtney, right.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Is that the one that has the courtney?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
They changed their hair so much with the Widows. You
can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That was a stroke of brilliance. Whose I think was that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
The wades peak was me. I just I really started
to get it. I did start to really enjoy making
my face look more and more like person. I just
found that, like somehow my face just felt like it
lent itself in makeup.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So I was really close. I was like, it just
doesn't quite look like her. And then I was like,
all right, let me look at her one more time
and see what's different. Yeah, and then there was a
windows and I didn't have a wig, so I took
a that's what it needs, made it and I was like,
we've got it. You know.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
It's funny because I was talking with an after I
really respect, and we were talking about process, and I said,
how do you what where do you drop in to
the character? Is just what's the Ah? I got it,
I got it. You know, it could be those could
be the shoes that you wear, the shoes, and I've
got you know, and from there everything kind of grows.
And he said the voice, he said, and I said,
that's that's interesting. And I said, but I think in
(33:54):
the process also the look I remember doing mister c
and yeah, twin Peaks of Return, and I remember it's
we're putting the character together kind of a little by
pieces and stuff. And then David did, like this kind
of a dirt stipple on my face. Yeah, and that
I said, I got it.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It is so it sounds so like actory, but it
is that moment where you kind of go, oh, I
know it's connect like I got Yeah, You're just like
it's one little thing where you're like, it's so, that's
so yeah, and it really can be that. It gives
you Yeah, but it gives you the just you know
they're real.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, it gives you the okay the door opened. Yeah,
now I believe it, And now I believe it until
I can make it happen. In the widow's peak, I think.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, it's like widows peaker.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Voice interesting and yeah, the voice is good. I thought
that was an interesting choice because I said, yeah, that
would that would work. Where do you pitch? Where do
you find it?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, Benny, it was so hard because it was like
I am in the closet and some people are believing
it and some people aren't.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So what is that?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
How much do we get to play within? How deep
the goes or how masculine i'm you know, or how
thick my neck is? Like I found I also find
posture to be like really posture and then this sounds
kind of crap, but sometimes I do. It's helpful to
think of how a character would have sex. I know
that's sorry, no no, no, I don't want to talk
(35:16):
about it in front of you. But it's like Seasons
is going to be a lot of this, so we
got to get ready.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But I think it's just it's.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Like helpful to think of them or in a relationship.
I think it's helpful to me exactly how would they
how would they be? You know, that's really you know,
I think.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I really want to ask yourself those questions, like it's
helpful this or this or this where? And because it
does gives you a picture, gives you a feeling more importantly,
and out of that comes behavior. Yeah, movement, I mean
how you interact with somebody, how you might touch someone
or grab someone or just anything like that. Totally.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I had one character where I was like, he would
shower before sex. Yeah, And it's just like to me,
I'm like, oh, I so get it, Like he's just
kind of hell.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I've played characters like that, you know, where it's like
he's just that.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'm like, I don't know how I kind of get
all that informs you know, it's just like a little Yeah,
informs everything, and I.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Think that that's that's that's a process or organic process.
But I think it is really really important.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, I got I would love to draw one on you.
I'm gonna do that. I'll bring that way I.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Could do because there was you remember the monsters. Oh yeah, okay,
So Eddie Munster, the little kid had a widow's peak.
And when I was, when I was younger, when I
had more hair, and when my hair was.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Black, literally so much black hair on the rest hanging
in looks great.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But when I was but I looked back when I
was kidd they knew her mind. Because my son has
just got his hair is hoped that you can't even
see the scout. It's like that God, And that's what
my hair was like. And it was jet black and
it was like there was an Eddie Monster thing happening. Yeah,
that was good. And then I had a friend of
mine who actually even looked like him, also black hair,
until we nicknamed him Eddie.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm sure he loved that. He was so excited to
get that God means the world.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
That's it for Eddie Monster, I said, But the widows
speak Yeah, that's a killer.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's a good that's a good thing. Thank you so
much that I miss being Courtney. I wonder I haven't
done her in a while. Yeah, I'm here with I
wonder if just yeah, there we go. There's always Do
you have the one word that help you?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, like if I do watch Oh no, I know,
I don't know. No.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
And then when I did, I did a lawyer and
he was from Texas and the word ring was snow cone. Yeah,
snow cone and I'm locked in, You're locked in?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah? So what was it it, Courtney? I think it
was just human like that to me was just coming
just right. And now I have it. Yeah, Orange just
tear so kind weep.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I'm a big fig fan.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, well of.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Course, yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
How could you not?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah? God, she was fun.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I do remember after though, It's like, you know, family
and friends around me they were like, oh I still
hear Courtney, And I'm like, oh yeah, sorry, I was
in front of the green screen. I'm losing it.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
And she's to be a good sport about it, right,
I mean lovely? Yeah. I think it was Dana Carvey.
He said this. I don't know if he's attributed to him.
But I said, if you want to learn a voice,
because he would do bush, he said, you have to
hear somebody else do the voice, like maybe an extreme version,
and then you learn from them instead of learning from
the person that you're that you're gonna imitate. Yeah, somebody
else has to do it, and you're like, oh, I
(38:20):
picked that up, you know what I mean. So it's like,
maybe you listen to someone who does a really great version,
you know, and yeah, and go that way. So I
don't know, but you sounds like you went right.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I went to her because I just needed to.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It was also extreme, and we was good.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I think I went pretty extreme because hearing her talk,
I was like, I'm you know, it's a I had
one person gave me like a note once and I
was like, yeah, I mean I am a man doing it.
So just like fuck ah, you know, I'm like, I
think we're okay. This feels like within the world, you know,
I'm we're bracketing here, like chill, Okay, we have a
different we have different chords. Yeah. I watched that and
then one I remember one thing that was Shawn Mendes
(38:57):
was kind of tricky for me at first. But I
just watched a few interviews and sometimes it's just hearing
how they say one or two words, and him saying
levely was really I was like, I know exactly how
to get my voice to sound like that, and that
was like the one. You know. It's just I don't know,
but I do think in hearing someone, I think maybe
I heard Chloe Feineman, do Timothy Shallome ones like, oh,
(39:18):
yeah he's tough, he's really hard, but then he's way
more physical than yeah, you know, it's more like, yeah,
that's I.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Can see you wanting to do it.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I want to I haven't.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Studied them yet, I mean such a.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm like, but I like the extreme ones, you know,
thekan or the but we were playing we were playing
earlier with we should do that. It's David Attenborough. Oh today, Yeah,
we're talking with Benny Trauma.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Oh that's and this is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
See where I got it from?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
But do you get that is in the why.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
He perpetuates the ongoing process of a man, a man
at his peak.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Truly, I wish David would talk about me like that.
Fuck he will. That was delicious.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's really good.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
He's but I need an extreme, you know, I have.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I have one for you. It's Daniel Craig in Night's Out.
There's been a I can't stop saying it. Saying it
to Mary Bedtune, she goes, oh, here's been wa But
he came into that movie, was such a hot take
on it. Oh it's an accent.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, it's it's breath taking.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah. I think about it a lot. I have to
remember that. I have to watch it again get a
sense of him. Well, we should be in one. It
seems kind of fucked up at this point. I think
so too, But I think that's the joy. It's like yeah,
because I thought that too. With Parker Posey and White Lotus.
The first episode, I was like, oh, I don't know
this accent, like, and then by the middle I was like,
it's just like it's a stroke of genius. Yeah, this
(41:00):
accent is like it is such a choice in it,
like and it delivers.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It was me like watching Peter Dinklage in Game of Thrones,
like it's not English necessarily no, but what is it?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
But yeah? But I was like, yeah, but go I.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Not Yeah, great, Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
We're going to a break, so we'll see you. We'll
be back. Don't go away for this segment I designed
just for you. I've cribbed a bit from you and
Mary Beth's segment Perfect Ride, And this is called can
(41:42):
I give you a ride? Question?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
And I wish I would be careful drove here, which
is not I should be allowed.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
All right, so you're good. I'm going to give you
these glasses because I don't I don't want you to
get any bugs.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
On your ones.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I do whoa, Okay, I'm gonna listen. I'm gonna List'm
gonna put some on too. Does that look do you
think that great?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's the face of Balcia? You guys get that? No
free ads believe that?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
What do you talk about our shirts? That this this
is I wore this and you wore that.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
And then there's something that's crazy that's called the family.
That's family in my head. Now I can't see, but
I can't ye yes, but I did. I'm gonna close
my eyes.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Now, okay, bi color, any color?
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Oh my god, I know it's a very red pill,
blue pillar? Yes, what's gonna look better with with us?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
To me?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I'm blue blue, So.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I'll go red, I'll go read. Okay, you're gonna tell
me if you I'm going to tell you a few
things I write for and you're gonna tell me if
you ye also ride.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You need crookies on those. This is what I need.
You knew that exactly that term.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
I was in the yard showing uh, shawing up some
bamboo and the sweating, and they kept falling.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Hate with my head in my right, I'm gonna go
with I might have to take that for season two.
I was sawing bamboo, bamboo.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I'm ready, I'm gardening in the backyard. Okay, we're gonna write.
We're gonna ride, if you ride with me, whether it's okay,
you're ready.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, here we go to me. It's like, yeah, this
is okay, good.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
And we're kind of moving. Remember how you do with shots,
like if you have the driving scenes?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
So the only book things I've written for myself. Oh,
I don't know, I don't really I haven't done that,
but I'm dying.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
A driving scene. Yeah, Oh, let's do it. It's hard to yeah,
because it's a good place for conversations.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Like a parent in an uber is so explosive. You
know I feel that. Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I ride for wearing indoor shoes outdoors.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh yeah, I absolutely. I slap on an UG and
I ripped through. Yes, yeah, that a slipper little bear pod.
If you're getting nasty, I think that's good. Yeah, that's
the shoe of choice.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I like the UG. I think your suggestion was right.
Perfect fuzzy fuzzy inside has to be a slippery fuzzy inside.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Would I then wear them into like a bed or
put them on the couch? Probably not.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
No, you bring them inside, but you could wear them
inside depending on what you walk through on the outside.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Something.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Did you just leave him at the door? I love
leaving at the door. A little clog, deal with it.
I ride for gardening, so I'm glad you do.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I personally don't, but I love that you do.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Wait, so you grew up in Boise, but there's no gardening.
Well I just thought it was the thing you did
in the Northwest, like.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Kind of my mom does. Like my mom loves her garden,
and but you leave her to it.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah yeah, I think I.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Just plants see me come in and they're like, get thirsty. Yeah, yes,
but I do I love the thought of you out there,
and I love going to someone's garden that they're really
proud of. Good will have you over, having little tomatoes,
a little little blueberry why not?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yes, controversial take, But I ride for Steve Brady.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Okay, sure, I think that's fantastic. From Sex and the City,
that's what you're in. For a second, I thought, is
that an athlete? Steve Brady? One hundred percent I ride.
I think he's fantastic. I think I recently, I mean
I recently told Kristin that I thought.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
I mean he yeah, he's ten Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Hey he's no Tao no, but yes, I mean he's
got really quiet ultimate ultimately, but I think he's I
think he's fantastic and he's so you know, you guys
on the road keep you of course, sorry, but to me, yeah,
I I really did like them together.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
They were kind of a beautiful They ride for being
silly on social media. I mean, come on, I go,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I want to be really serious.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
You are social media.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
It's very moody.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
We're driving a little fast right now, so a little
bit because you're getting.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
See this is why I'm not allowed to drive cars.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
This is silly on social.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, I and yours is you inspire me.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Oh that's nice to hear things.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
I get sometimes scared of TikTok because I feel like
I didn't come up on it.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
So sometimes I have my I have a team here
there is They're absolutely genius and they helped exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
They help.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
They're my GUIDs. Tears Okay, I ride for Kale. Oh
yeah right, I mean you're healthy Kales.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Sometimes when I'm eating it, it does. I look up after
two hours and I think I'm still eating this.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
But I do like because you're not full. Kale doesn't
fill you up.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
It does.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I think it does make me bloated, but it does gas. Yeah,
of course, but I do. I love Kale.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Kale's great.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I put it smoothie.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I like a little bit of like a little I
like a salt oil, a little bit of honey, oh
ship and tiny bit of boom and a cigarette and
well you know what, I love them, right, Kale Caesar, Well,
Kale is my nickname from David. Oh yeah, I love Yeah,
he called me Kale. It wasn't and he wasn't the
one who who thought of it originally. Well, he thought
(46:36):
of calling me Kale. It was the late producer Dino
Dayla Renis who who couldn't pronounce Kyle Kale, and David
loved that. That's it from now on, I'm Kale.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
We're driving off a cliff right now.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Definitely, we've driven off the cliff. We're fine moment.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
I ride for the nerd emoji?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Oh is that the little teeth in the glasses?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So cute.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Love.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
I don't know if I've ever used it, but I
I love receiving it. I mean, how cute.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I don't know. I because my nerd emoji or them
I go with, I mean a thumbs up a lot,
hark a lot. I like the emoji with the two
the kind of the ice was kind of squinting clothes
and smiling. Oh. I like that, Like, oh god, that
was maybe that was too much.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I like the one where it's a he's kind of like.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Oh yes, yeah, laughing behind.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
I feel like that a lot.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
I'm like, oh, life is so embarrassed and said that,
Yeah cute.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Here what the fucka Oh, here's a good one. I
ride for Chow Chow's the dog read.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Oh yeah, what you thought about that? Huh?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I love chow.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
I love chow chows. I don't know if I want
to shoot with the chow chow again. I think chow
chouse prefer camera diplomatic, but I think they're they're beautiful.
Dog Scott King, that wonderful showerunner over compensating. Yeah, and
he's such a king. So I love I love chachaus,
butch puppies that's another story, you know, maybe off camera.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, off camera, very good, very good. I ride for
being a podcast host.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, because you imagine, I go die. I'm so glad
you are one. Now.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
I'm having so much fun.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I know you are.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
I'm kind. I didn't really know getting into it. I
was like, you know what, I'm actually really enjoying this
because I get to learn, and yeah, I am curious
and I get to learn and ask questions. And I
think that's it. Ride. How far do we balked up? Well,
we know what's coming up for you.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Yeah, you're going into the writer's room right now, and
you're going to write beautiful stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I'm going into a k hole for a bit and
then all once I climb back out, I've got to
have some gifts for you.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
I'm so excited me too. I'm always excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But I know you now. Yeah, I just bother you whenever.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
You can bother me whenever except for yes, never mind.
But it's been a real pleasure. It's been a real pleasure.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
That'll talk to you forever.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Okay, everybody else, bless your heart. I love you too.
We're in for another season. Thanks for coming on. That's
our show. We uh and we're sticking to it. Did
we discover what are we even doing? I don't know
if we did, but we had a good time doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (49:12):
What are we even doing?
Speaker 1 (49:13):
We're family, We're doing this. It's working, We're creating. Whatever
we're doing, we're having fun.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
We're having fun. There you go. What Are We Even
Doing is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis Duran
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