November 26, 2025 • 47 mins
Kyle welcomes creator, actor, and internet heartthrob Noah Beck for a serious exploration of what it means to have a huge following at a young age. They talk post Sway House life, moving to L.A., and the oddly intimate experience of millions of strangers watching Noah plate his protein, carbs, and emotional growth in real time. Noah gets candid about imposter syndrome, trading “TikTok boy” for “actor boy,” and why a notable fanbase is just a key to the door, not a guarantee you get to stay in the room. Noah guides Kyle in TikTok slang and what it means to “renegade.” In the final segment, two generations of heartthrobs play a chaotic game of Name That Heartthrob where they guess famous lines from Cary Grant, Michael B Jordan, Paul Newman, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are we even doing? What are we even doing?
Welcome to what are we even doing? We are rolling.
I'm Kyle Maclaughlan, your host for the day. This is
a program where were sitting down with actors, musicians, creatives
of all type and we talk about their process, what
(00:21):
moves them in the crazy and wild world of social media.
And today we have a very very special guest. I'm
so excited Noah Beck is here and you are. You're
an actor, your influencer, you are, like I don't know,
you're a champion of the Internet as far as I
cans are. You make me feel both kind of cool
that you're here and very old at the same time.
But welcome. I'm so glad you're here. Thanks, thank you
for coming in. Man from not too far away, you said,
(00:43):
West Hollywood, So that's not too bad. I know. I
just rolled down out of the hills and here we
are a little studio undo these chairs. You got the comfy,
cozy heart that you're.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Sure do Like I was saying, I feel bad for
not having it on displays.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's good. Yeah, I got my hands here just in
case for coming for people are going to go like,
what the hell.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, welcome, welcome. I want to start. I want to
ask you a little bit about kind of how you started,
you know, kind of maybe that first spark of like wow,
I'm actually this is something that I like or that
I'm good at, or how did you find yourself kind
of falling down the rabbit hole of social media? Was
there a beginning?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Do that?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I mean, there was a beginning, but it's so hard
to like, No, it's actually quite easy to pinpoint when
it was. The start was it was COVID and like, okay,
I grew up my whole life playing soccer, and so
the very athletic background. I played just about every sport,
but whenever soccer wasn't season, that was priority.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And you started when you were a kid, imagine like.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Three, since I could since I could stand. Yeah, so
that was my passion.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
That was my love.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's what I wanted to do. There was really no
plan B in that sense, but it was more, Yeah,
that's just what I wanted to do. That's where my
heart was. My dad was also a coach of my
local high schools growing up, so he had definitely some
influence on that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Here of course, of course, was he a soccer player
as well? I mean was he was?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
He grew up more baseball, funny enough, but then he
fell into the coaching and you know then has been
coaching the local He just retired this year from coaching,
but he's coaching for just over thirty years.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That is such like a noble amazing thing because I'm
sure he was a great coach.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Man, the kind of influence that that can have on kids,
you know, particularly if it's if it's a positive thing,
if it's an encouraging thing. And I had that experience
when I was growing up, you know, when I was
like the ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, and we had a
coach he just was he was kind of like that
tough but compassionate. So you'd work really hard, but he
always like would give you a kind of a hug,
(02:47):
you know around your shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, it was really important.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think a coach and a parent in my case
that can tiptoe on that line and can really yeah,
be that guy that pushes you but then also will
be the first one to hug you after a loss.
And so I think he was that for me, and
it's amazing because my I come from like a family
of educators. Funny enough, both my parents are teachers as well,
and my sister. Both my sisters got their degrees and
(03:13):
teaching oh oh wow, yeah, and one of them's pursuing
it now. The other one did a year of it
and was like not for me, which what grade was
she teaching?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
She wanted to teach English high school.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh so there was not like that's tough all that
to say.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
March March or twenty twenty was when we kind of
got the blast email when I was walking at campus
and just we all looked at our phones, like I
remember this, like I remember it so vividly because it
felt like a scene out of a movie where everyone
looked at their phones like we got like an amber
alert or something.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It looked around and we were like, you guys getting
this too? Am I getting pranked?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And it was like need to evacuate campus.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I first thought was we're getting pranked here or something
was happening. Yeah, Like it didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Feel real, it was, yeah, and it was so out
of the blue, and I just from remember being like
all right, well, surely this will blow over in a week,
not really knowing what to expect. Yeah, of course not
and in hindsight, not realizing that it would be a
two year thing.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So you were on track playing soccer at school, yes,
and you were like, this is going to be my
life and it's a D one school I think, right, yeah,
which is pretty intense. Yeah, And I imagined the training,
which was pretty I mean, that's discipline.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You got to have this truly, And yeah, I think,
like I said, it was a mix of my dad
kind of being that influence on me growing up, and
then a culmination of all my coaches. I think from
being a kid. I loved it, like I loved the
hard work. I loved the competitiveness. I loved every training
feeling like nothing's given and it has to be earned.
(04:49):
And I think I've definitely, in ways that may or
may not be healthy, have translated that to my life
now without having the.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well I'm curious about it. I'm curious about that because
if you grew up with that kind of discipline, we're
talking about social media and the kind of demands that
that makes on your time, I can only imagine. I mean,
I'm just scratching the surface here, and I'm finding it's
a you know, It's a not a full time job
in my case, but it takes a lot of time
and energy, and not just from me, but the people
(05:19):
that I work with, some of whom are here in
the room with me right now, and they work hard,
you know, yeah, just to sort of stay current and
relevant and you know, in the world. So I was
saying as you were talking about that that discipline that
you have for playing soccer, because it's you know, it's
every day, yeah, and it's focused. You kind of have
to bring that, seems like into this world of social media,
(05:41):
which you you've created this, I mean, you've got you've
covered so many different things and you've done many many
different things already. Thinking of sway, of course, I mean
that was living your life, and you know, I mean
it's that was a little different than living in a dorm.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I don't know, I mean there were similarities, but yeah,
it was.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, if that was leaning towards the question of like
what was that like, it was my experience of living
in a it was a frat house, and it was
very much that. And then you throw in a lot
more money than we should have been making us.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, very very helpful. Exactly make good choices exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
It was just everything was like just heightened at that time.
The drama that if it were happening at any other
high school or any other college in or any town
or whatever it is, the drama that would happen between
our house and the other house, and just like that
world and that time of Creators, everything was just so heightened.
(06:46):
Like someone would you know, people would date similar people
and then it would it was just stuff that happens,
but because we were in the spotlight, it was just
like the biggest news ever. And then all of a sudden, Yeah,
going from a dorm room and like there's no training
for that, and there's no like preparation you can do
to all of a sudden like be in la and
(07:08):
have like seeing like glares of camera lenses from like
paparazzi and it's what do you want from me? Yeah? Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It was pretty It was pretty surreal.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And that did you handle because I know, I mean,
you've you've spoken about you're pretty shy person, you know
what I mean. In your life, you know what I mean.
But at the same time, here you are, did you
just jump in and say, yeah, what the heck was
try this was it one of the just like sounds fun.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I guess it's funny. We've been kind of like
going back to COVID when it first kind of happened,
and then the pandemic hit and we got sent home.
I went back to Arizona, which is where I'm from,
and then purely out of boredom, just started posting on
social media and just started. It started with the silly
little uh a little bet with my sister being an
(07:53):
annoying younger brother. I was like, I bet I can
get more followers than you on TikTok and she was like,
I don't do it for that, and I was like,
I'm going to do it for that. And so there
was some out of body experiences that I was like,
in hindsight, like what right, what led me to posting that?
Or I don't know, it was when you.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Spoke about waking up one morning and suddenly you had
like twenty thousand something.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Just yeah this that day that I posted that video,
I posted at night and then woke up and it
literally twenty thousand followers, And it was did you think.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Of like, oh, I'm going to do something like another
influence out there or somebody that you had seen or
you said, oh, I kind of like this and maybe
I'll do something in the same vein or for.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That first video, I don't know what I was. I
think I looked up just I don't know. I did
my research and I looked at what other people my
age were doing, and you know, guys that looked similar
to me. I was like, what's working out there? And
I was like, I can copy this, And the thought
of my coach potentially seeing this, my teammates potentially seeing this,
(08:59):
like didn't even cross my mind. And so it was
just like, yeah, I'm gonna do this and set up
my phone used like my sister's laptop as like my
ring light like low, hey, less is more in that sense,
and so I just I think it was a I
think it was a Meg Thee Stallion song featuring right
(09:19):
Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, as my first video,
and it was very uh. I think I threw in
some really bad transitions in there, but something happened and
something worked.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well. Yeah, the camera loves you, first of all. That's
a nice thing. That's you never know until you sort
of get out there, and you never know how is
it going to translate? Through the lens. So that's that's
that's a cool story.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty true.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's that's pretty cool. So you're in Portland, you were
at school, you went back, you went back to Arizona
to kind of wait out COVID thing, and then did
you sort of say at some point, hey, I gotta
go to l A or was there a yeah, back
to Portland or how did how how did that work?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah? So fast forward from that video from that night
three months and you know this, this is gonna sound ridiculous,
but like four or five million followers later in those
three months, which.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Is that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It was surreal.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But it also again if it was just a number
on a phone, because I didn't know, it was so
foreign to me, Like this concept and just like seeing
how that would translate to real life didn't even like
apply to me yet.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And so it was when I started.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
To receive emails and dms from brands other influencers at
the time and being like, Yo, we should work together,
or Yo, we should collab, you should come hang out
with us. It was just like this thing that was
so I was like, look, I'm just waiting for that
email to come back to school, like I just want
play soccer. And then that email never came and it
(10:55):
really just felt like this lightning in a bottle moment
and I don't know, all you have is your instinct,
and I had this weird feeling in me that I
was like, all right, well soccer is going to be there.
Like I'm not all of a sudden just gonna lose
all my ability over the span of a month if
I decide to go out to LA and give this
a shot. Yeah, And that's what I did, and yeah,
(11:17):
it was pretty It was pretty surreal like that. I
remember that first month in LA in June to kind
of like test the waters, and not even not even
with the thought of I'm.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Going to live out here and I'm gonna do this thing.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It was more of just like I'll go out there
for like a week, hang out with these guys that
have been texting me basically being like you should come
over and like we should make videos.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So there's one that they just sort of said you, Hey,
whence you come out. Did you like consult with anybody
or like, oh who should parents? Yeah, I mean that's
the best, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I was like, hey, mom, dad, like there's some guys
on TikTok that are like some of the most fallowed
guys in the app, and they want to hang out
with me, like should and were they like, yeah, they're
like pumped the brakes, so what do you mean? And
I was like, look, I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But it feels like a good thing and they supporting you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And ultimately I had to kind of go through the
channels here and I had to.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I was like, guys, is there an.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Adult I think they're all early twenties. I was like,
is there an adult round when you guys have a
manager or something my parents can talk to to like
exactly and.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Somebody with a prefrontal cortex exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Okay, I developed in there, and fortunately there was, and
they spoke to him, and who they spoke to on
the phone is now my manager to this day, wow,
which is great. So yeah, he basically eased their nerves
and he was like, look, your son is doing really
well on this app. And I was like I was
sitting hearing this and I was like, doing really well.
Like I'm posting stupid videos. It's strictly out of like
(12:42):
building a hole.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, like I was.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
All these videos were fueled by my boredom during COVID,
and I think that's where I don't know if I
was a consumer, I guess that's where the authenticity shined.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Through because there was no niche.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
There was no like one video I'd be dancing in
the bathroom shirtless, and then one would be baking with
my mom, and then one would be soccer video and
it was just all over the place and so and
then I like love to dabble with like the acting
audios and stuff like that. Yeah, So like I think
I found a weird love for that through.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well it was super authentic. Yeah, which I think that's
the one thing that I've learned during this process is
if you're just yourself, you know, Yeah, there's just really
people respond to that. Yeah, either they recognize a kindred
spirit or they just appreciate the fact that you're being here.
I am you know, kind of works on all of that.
I look great, you look great, you know what I mean,
(13:35):
You're like, this is meeah and putting it out there.
It sounds like it's a very creative process for you.
Was it something that was there other thing that pointed
towards that When you were younger, did you have like
a creative side or you know.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's funny because I've recently been thinking about this because,
like I said, my parents and my whole family are
educators and I ironically dropped out of So that's kind
of exactly there you go. But it was to pursue this,
and it was I don't know, it's not even that
anyone in my family was like overly creative. It's not
(14:11):
even in hindsight that I was. It was more they
instilled this like curiosity into me. I think being teachers,
they like I never want to stop learning, and the
moment that I mean the day that I assume that
I have it all figured out, I need someone to
come and slap me because it's far from the truth.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And I just love learning.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I love being curious, and I love because I don't
know what's the latter, Like why would I want to be?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, no, I see that. And because you said, you know,
you post all these different things and curiosity, I think
is they think it keeps us young. I mean, for
goodness sake. I mean you are young, h but it's
a thing whereas you get older and older, you just
you want to keep learning. All the people that I successful,
people older, successful, even middle aged anywhere, are all curious.
So you know, you can be eighty five years old
and you're still curious about something and you stay young.
(14:59):
And it's kind of funny enough. It's why I'm here
doing this podcast, which is something unexpected and unusually. I'm
curious about a generation that I don't know that much about,
so nowhere here chatting about it, and you're telling me
what it's like to be an influencer. Would you just
call yourself an influence or what would you say? I
(15:19):
don't know, Maybe that's not the right.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Is there ever a right word?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I think I've literally had talks with my with my
publicist about this. When people ask my title, what do
I give them? Because I mean, I guess that's a
good thing because I like to just do different things.
So it's not like I hope it's not an egotistical thing,
but it's more of just like, like, I don't know,
maybe a creator and a.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Creator is a good word that I was going to
say that or and with that course comes to a responsibility.
But I feel like you're really tapped into that. Maybe
that's part of the jig from a family of educators,
have responsibility to what you put out there. You know,
it's fun, maybe there's something you're something or showing something
or you know, but you I think I feel like
you you lead by example, you know, and I think
(16:06):
that's that's that's the strongest way to lead honestly. Yeah,
you know, you know, I watched you cooking videos. I'm
a I like to cook as well. Love it is
that your mom, dad, sister is your own thing.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I mean, they're gonna kill me neither.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
To be honest, I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Have them make dinner. No no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, funny enough.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Growing up, my dad every every once in a blue
moon would hop on the grill and it was like
one of my favorite nights because I love grilled food
like that. Yeah, and my mom, I mean, bless her heart,
she was not the best cook.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And she knows. We have that in comment.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I think that that came later in life, because I
don't think I wasn't exactly whipping it up in my
dorm room in Portland either, and I wasn't doing that
at home, and so I think it honestly came when
I started to live on my own. Yeah, the uber
eats apps started to kind of run up, and I
was like, yet, I gotta cut back on this and
maybe learn how to cook a little. And so I've
(17:05):
really enjoyed it, and I've almost kind of like romanticized
cooking at home and like it's kind of a nice
therapeutic thing that I like to like set up.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Like meditation, I think for sure, completely completely takes your
time and focus.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, it does. Like I said, it's fun just like
romanticizing it and just kind of like doing it. And
it's like this like self care that you can kind
of do that these little things that you can do
to help better yourself tomorrow. And like, yeah, I'm big
on that. And it's not that everything in life, because
there's that I'm constantly playing Devil's Advocate with myself with everything,
trying to always look at like two sides of a
(17:40):
coin of like, all right, well I need to eat
super clean because tomorrow, like myself will be thanking me,
et cetera. But then I'm like, okay, well, not everything
that I eat needs to be like for betterment, like
you can give a little and so yeah, I found
myself doing that quite a lot with just like mundane
things in life. I'm like, not everything needs to be
(18:01):
this stress on, like am I going to regret it tomorrow?
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And so you have a war, a little bit of
a war. I don't know. I'm OCD for sure, and
I battle that all the time. Yeah, decisions, you know
what I mean? And is it the right decision?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is just good?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's just bad? And sometimes you just go, I don't
want to I don't want to battle anymore. Exactly go forward,
you know, exactly did you think about everything? And I
also think too. I mean, I don't know if it
comes out in the posting that you do, but you know,
there's a perfectionist thing that I have and I've had
to really just let that go. Thank you to my
team really help me. And they're like, say, it's great, Yeah,
(18:37):
let it be. And I think in some ways that's
what people want to see. They want to see the
you know, not that everything's perfect. You know, you just
have fun with it, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah. There is almost this like responsibility to make your
life seem glamorous or in ways like with the filter
on it. And I've learned to kind of just peel
peel that back, and I've almost learned that the more
I feel that like back, the better it seems.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, like yes, things can still be.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Curated, but like not in like a perfected yea, it's
like this controlled.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Well, I think they may. I think you're you're in
this process and I know acting is something that you're
pursuing heavily, and that what you describe is exactly what
you do as an actor. Right, you start pulling off
these layers of this person of yourself and you start
showing things maybe not so proud of, but there are
(19:28):
things that are part of the human experience, which I think, Yeah,
it's just it's this process and then getting to the
point where you can actually go, Okay, you may see
some things in me that you're not going to like,
but you know, within the confines of the character, that's
who this person is and have no judgment on it.
So this is just who this person is and that's
what I'm playing, you know, And I think as you
(19:49):
go on this journey which you're on, I just encourage
you to continue to do that, to pull back that stuff,
you know, because it's that's the gold.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Really, Yeah, no, that's I mean that's really well put.
It kind of goes back to the never stop learning
kind of mantra of it all. It's like, I feel
like I'm constantly just exploring things, whether it's about myself,
whether it's about a character, and like really embracing it
and figuring out, like why is it that I'm this
way or the character is that way? And so I
(20:22):
think there's yeah, there's a lot to unpackt there. Yeah,
I think it's fun to do that.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, that's the journey. You're talking earlier about something and
I think about the frat stuff, and I remember thinking
part of what I was also in a frat for
a short period of time, which I wasn't really ready for.
But it was good. It was a good experience where
that was at the University of Washington. Okay, yeah, I
(20:47):
was a beta up there. Amazing, it was really Yeah,
it is amazing because you don't look at me. I'm like,
he doesn't look like a beta to me. But anyway,
they let me in somehow. But I don't think I
was ready for I don't think it was I could
handle it funny enough. And then I was thinking about
the team being on a team sport as soccer as
a team sport. And then you were talking about the
experience of being in with Sway and with your group,
(21:09):
and I feel like it's something that as an actor
I really enjoy. I enjoy the the group effort. I
enjoy having partners, you know, around, and we're this little team,
this little band of people, you know, and that, and
we're like the circus, you know what I mean. It's
like everyone's working together for like a greater a greater good,
you know, a better a better thing. We're trying to
(21:31):
create something special, you know, and I really love that.
I don't know if that's something you share as you know,
you talked about of course your film on to B Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Sideline exactly, and there's a new one to Yes. I
don't know if that was something the experience of that
working together with crew and actors and everything with something
(21:53):
that you really responded.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, it's actually crazy. You took the words exactly right
out of my mouth. That is something that I mean
because when I first kind of felt like acting as
something that I'd like to explore, I was was kind
of a naive, delusional thought of mine that I was like, oh, well,
people seem to like me on this small screen, right,
maybe that'll translate to a big screen, right, And like
(22:16):
it was part of that, and it was almost this
like liberating thing of like I'm a little tired sometimes
of being Noah Beck. Like it's like like I want
to be someone else. I want to live in someone
else's shoes, and like maybe there will be something that
I enjoy about that process. And honestly, like call it ego,
ego or whatever, but I was like, and yeah, the
the ring of being a movie star has got a
(22:37):
nice like shit to it. I was like, that's a
cool title. But all that to say, like I did
what I know how I'm wired. I was just like,
all right, well I got to become a student to
this and I got a train at it. So it
was a mix of like what my parents instilled into
me and then the athletic background of like I'm gonna
work my ass off and continue to explore this thing
that I know nothing about, Like I didn't grow up
(22:59):
doing theater, and so there was like this chip on
my shoulder to consume everything and just be a sponge
because I know nothing about this and so talking to
people like yourself and just people that are experienced in
this space. I'm like, I love hearing their experience because
what I've learned about it is that it's so not
one size fits all and everyone has their own process.
(23:22):
But yeah, that is word for word what I fell
in love with it. It was purely the collaboration. I
was like, oh, this is what I've been missing for
because social media.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
As you know, you and the camera, you know, yeah,
it's it.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Can be as lonely or as collaborative as you make it.
And yeah, but with a movie, it takes a village
and it takes like I just loved it. I fell
in love with everyone coming together and all for that
final product. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, that's what I like about it too.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Loved it. You know what's really funny. I get this
question in the past month like three or four times.
Like I got chirped the other day on like on
the street, this group of like I think it was
from young like baseball team. I was walking in like
Manhattan Beach like with one of my friends, right, and
they were all like renegade for us, And I was like,
come on, and I'm like, are we not past this?
(24:12):
But well, you know what's really funny and like there's
you can. My digital footprint is insane, So like good
luck finding it, but also like you won't because I've
actually never done the Renegade whatever. You couldn't find it.
There is no I've never done the the best it was,
it was slightly behind. It was slightly before my time.
(24:35):
Like I think it was like a really trending dance
like on right around that time, like May or April
or May of twenty twenty, and so it was yeah,
so it was right. Yeah, I wasn't exactly doing a
ton of dances when I was back home, and I
think I started to dance more and do just like
fun ones with like the Sway Boys and so this
(24:56):
was like azy TikTok and so like he was not
doing the Renegade and so like by the time I
came to La, there were other dances, but there are
other Renegade is.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Very complicated, crazy ones.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, I've tried dances. I've tried.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You've done some dances.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
This is a disaster. That's okay, that's okay, but that's
part of the fun. It's good things rise the top
and things that are not so good. It's like what
I do in my dancing.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But yeah, all that matters is that you're having fun.
I mean, I mean at the end of the day, yes,
exactly exactly. How are you finding it? Like being on
social media and doing the podcast?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Like, I am really enjoying it really, Yeah, just having
you here having a conversation. You know, I've been doing this,
I've I've got a few under my belt, really and
I didn't know how I was going to react, but
I'm I am thoroughly enjoying it. I always say, you know,
I know, like my heroes, people that I followed, I
was coming up as an actor, you know, I was
looking at Marlon Brando. I was even looking at James
(25:52):
Dean and Cliff some of the older and I was
I was focused on theater. Yeah, so that was kind
of where I was going. Yeah, I don't know what's coming,
you know, generations behind you know what I mean, that's
the people that are coming up and the waves that
are coming. I see names and I'm like, I don't
know who these people are. Yeah, like you know, I
should I can have broaden my my understanding of things. Said,
(26:13):
let's let's look and see and talk with people that
are creatives that are coming from a from another time,
you know, and figure out hear their story and what's important.
Especially with the advent of social media now it's such
as such a huge impact on everything and how it's
being used by the people that actually grew up with it.
You know, you have a facility with it. Yeah, I
don't necessarily have, but I'm trying to learn. Yeah, it
(26:35):
goes back to learning.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I was just about to out. I was just going
to say, like, yeah, even like it doesn't matter how
old you are, it's like you just can never be
so stagnant in your ways, and I think it's really
cool that you're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
This, and it's like thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, And having listened to a few of the episodes,
like I love Dylan O'Brien.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Like he's great.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, never met him. I'm just a big fan of
his work and.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I hate him absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You guys had such a good report. He's awesome, and
like being a fan of his work via via movies
or whatever. And there's some other interviews that I've seen
of his that I'm like, it seems like a cool
guy off off set as well. But having listened to
your guys interview, I'm like, oh, this just confirms like,
it's cool when you get a little bit more of
(27:21):
an insider on some of these people. But I feel
that i'm a little too. I think there are some
people that if they want to, they can know me
better than I know myself via online because I just
share so much. Everything is out there. Everything is out there,
and I think, yeah, I'm coming up at a different
time where social media you can choot pick and choose
what you share, but I've just chose to be an
(27:44):
open book online and so yeah, pretty much everything about
me is online.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It's pretty amazing when you think about it. It's scary, yeah,
but it's different. I mean, you're in I gotta uncharted territory, honestly.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And so I feel like again playing the Devil's Advocate,
Like there's so many drawbacks in this episode, but it's
it's so funny because I think going back, I'm like, well,
this is cool because I could kind of be a
pioneer in this space of like I really want to
act and like I want to do it. Like I'm
aware that having the following and having this platform could
potentially help me get into a door, but it's not
(28:18):
going to keep me in the room. At first, there
was this imposter syndrome and I was getting auditions that
I was like, that's insane because I'm like a fan
of this franchise or I'm a fan like I know
when this movie comes out, Yeah, I'm going to be
a fan of this movie, and so like to even
think that I have a chance of being a character
in it, or I.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Still have the imposter syndrome.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I mean like wait a minute, they thinking of me?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, my god.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But I read something the other day and it was
really interesting and like it completely shifted my perspective of
imposter syndrome. Is like basically along the lines of imposter
syndrome being a good thing, and it means that you're
doing something cool, and it means like chasing that imposter
syndrome because there are many people that will never experience
that feeling of like I'm doing something so amazing that
(29:03):
it feels like this shouldn't be happening to me or
for me yea, but in fact, like rethinking that, like
I love chasing that feeling. Now, Yeah, like let's see
how much crazier this life can get. Let's see what
more I can accomplish. And it's like it's a cool
thing to chase, but it's it's also kind of a
slippery slope, like.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
What more can I do?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
What more?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Am?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
But I think with acting, at first it was very
much that and like playing the Devil's advocate of like
all right, well, growing up seeing these movie stars and
seeing these people that I was fans of and it
was like I know nothing about them and now trying
to do the thing where I'm like reverse engineering it
where I have this platform when I said yes to
(29:45):
that first film, like everything that I said prior to
you know, being a movie star, it sounds amazing, etc.
But I'm like, am I gonna love these? Like I
had people prep me for like it's gonna be long days.
Early mornings, I was like talking my language, I've been
craving this, like I need to be a part of
a team, and like yeah, I need to have these
bounce boards and like I want to fulfill this creative
(30:08):
side that I feel like it's so hard to which
just myself and the phone and I've I didn't feel
like I hit this plateau, but it was almost Yeah, creatively,
I was like I got to do something bigger and
like I want to and so thank God that I
had such an amazing experience with the first film, and
just knowing that that is what it takes to make
(30:30):
a film, I'm like, oh, sign me up, Like I'm
in this now.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Discipline.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, it's amazing. And so if the if the industry
continues to have me, I I would love to continue working.
But it's I've been very humbled by the by the process, because,
like I said, the platform can get me in rooms,
but it's yeah, like I think I've done over hundreds
of auditions and it's like this is the journey. Yeah,
(30:58):
and I'm sure, yeah, if you have any tips in that.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Real oh man, no, you The tips are just keep
doing it, yeah, And I mean try and find the
best people to work with and work with them and
just absorb everything you know, and and as I said earlier,
continue to try to peel back and let yourself be there,
which I feel like in some ways, I'm like, no,
because you have lived in front of the camera, not
for your entire life, but for you know, a portion,
(31:22):
and so it's like being comfortable in front of the
camera is really important, which obviously that's something I feel like,
like that that's happening that's great. It's like getting inside
the skin of the character, understanding everything about the psychology
of the character as much as you can, and then
just really connecting with the person you're working with. You
know who, Remember that may be it's all that, it's
(31:43):
all that, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Do you remember when you realize that act?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
There were a couple of things. Yeah, a couple of things.
And I think when I was a kid, my mom
would encourage me to join There was a teen theater
group in town, and I was like, I can't be
bothered with this annoying and I would go to these
things and it was really really the social yeah, the
things that I really enjoyed. Hanging out with some of
my friends and there were two girls around and I
was like, not so bad, you know, Yeah, I liked
(32:11):
this b Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Did you ever do ballet?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I didn't, but I took two years of ballet.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yes, Oh my god. It wasn't I was terrible cool,
it was no, it was a college. I was serious.
It was terrible. There were three guys and thirty five girls.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It doesn't sound so bad.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I was awful, and I love my teacher, but I
was terrible. Yeah, absolutely terrible. But I you know, again,
try something, you try it. You know, this is fun
with the heck, how can I not be fun and
good hard work? I mean it was. It was a
good workout. Yeah, that was part. That was part of it.
And I think I said it it'll help me with
my fight training or something. I went to like a
program where I was trained. We had three years of
(32:52):
acting training for repertory theater. So that was it. Theater
and that's what I was going to do. And then
movies kind of came in and and I my first
film I came in. I was my first screen test.
I'd never seen a film camera before. I never no
one had ever done my hair in my makeup before,
and you know, I was like, what the hell is
all this? You know, I was green as can be,
(33:13):
you know.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And it was Dune, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, totally totally. And I watched the movie now and
I'm like, you don't know what you're doing there, do you?
I can just watch my stiff the whole day. That
seems a critic Oh yeah, yeah, yeah totally.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
What was that auditioning process like and how if you
felt like or if this was your first time seeing
a film camera and you didn't like, this was such
a foreign thing to you.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, how'd you get the role? I just I you know,
I had a great good fortune to work with to
meet David Lynch. He and I had a connection right
at the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
And he was my on just a personal level, on
a personal level, yeah, So he was kind of we
were we were We bonded quickly, almost as brothers. It
was so interesting. So Dune was our first and he
helped me through that, and then Blue Velvet was the
second and worked together again, and then Twin p and
that whatever, that connection was, that magic that we had
(34:05):
and I, you know, I really trusted him and and
I had trusted my training too, and I was gradually
able to sort of interface film acting with what I
knew theater acting right, And it took a bit of time.
There was some rough edges, you know, such as I
had the background, oh just you know, just learning what
(34:26):
the camera does. Yeh. See, you have already had a
relationship with the camera.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Social media has kind of trained me to like be
I've had to become comfortable in front of the camera,
so that it's had a weird way of I guess, yeah,
training me for that because I had I had a
really interesting conversation with my with my co star on
on the movie, and like there were so many times
where I'm just I'm I was so self conscious and
so it wasn't even I was self conscious in the
(34:52):
right way. I was more I guess again, curious of
like are you believing this? Like after every scene, like
he'd say cut and I would be like, I would
say to her, name is Sienna, and.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Does this feel real? Like I feel like I could do.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It so many different ways and she's like, that's acting
like it's subjective and like how you're doing it is great,
you could do it ten other different ways. And I
was like, oh, I don't say that because that makes
it sound.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Like there's no right. Yeah, there's no right exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's not a one size fits all. So I had
to learn that very quickly of like you just kind
of have to commit and like if you're going to
make a choice, make a choice, and like, but don't
have asst and just make it feel so listening and
the responding in it, and it really, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
So we had an exercise when I was in Classic
called talking and listening and basically that's it as if
you're hearing something for the first time and responding to
it in a new way, right, And it's one of
the things that sort of I've I've been working on
it too, to be honest, you know, in the past
ten years. It's like getting in front of the camera
and just sort of saying, I don't know where we're
going to go with this.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
We always play a game great towards the end of
the interview, and it's called name that heart throb. You're
You're you're more of a heart throb than I've an
older heart back in the day. But we're going to
take turns reading lines from that certain heart throbs have said,
and then we're going to try and guess who said it. Okay, Yeah,
it's a multiple choice. So when we come back, we're
(36:20):
back with our heart throb section. And the reason that
we're wearing these these it's not a costume. I mean,
I you know, I wear this occasionally. It's part of
my wardrobe. Is because nights were the original heart throbs.
I think at least that's what we're saying right now.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
So that's true.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
You look great, by the way, the whole. Yeah, the mess. Yeah,
it's nice. Glasses work too. I think it's kind of
a fun touch. I took my glasses off to warre these,
so I can't see a thing, but I'm just pretending. Okay,
we're back with our segment. Okay, name that heart throb.
Now I'm going to take I'm going to read lines
from various heart throbs throughout history, and we'll have to
(36:59):
decide which one it is. Oh yeah, and we have
candy here. So if you you're pretty I know you're
pretty pretty healthy, but if you win, we should be
thinking if you lose one, you have to eat a candy.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
That's more of an incentive there, because they're very spicy
their heart.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, spicy hot Tomali's okay, all right, first one,
here we go. All right, here's my line. What team
Wildcats A zach Efron, B Paul Newman, no help see
(37:35):
Charles Melton, okay or D Kyle McLachlin.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm gonna go A.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I'm gonna go Zachron is correct? The right answer? Well done,
thank you, well done? All right to me, it happens
you have been watching all your films. I'm very proud.
Of you.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay, Ice musical was was one that I did not
need to like do any catch up on. My sisters had.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That right, repeat, I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Movies are ahead of its time. Okay, here's mine.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I'm the king of the world.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
That was me. No, I'm just kidding a.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Ethan Hawk, B Leonardo DiCaprio see Jeremy All and White. D.
Kyle mcla.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
My sensor recurring theme here with my name. Oh well,
Ethan would have loved to have said that. Yeah, but
I think that's Leo.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I think that's yes.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Indeed the world. Oh bless him. Okay, prepare yourself. There's
some bad words in this. Gives it home. If you
were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have fucked your
best friend's boyfriend. Let me say it again, more passion.
If you were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have
fucked your best friend's boyfriend. A carry grant. If you
(39:01):
were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have fucked your
best friend's boyfriend. I say it again, b Ryan Gosling.
I'm not even gonna try to one person. See Jacob
Lordi okay, D Kyle McLachlin.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Seem really doing.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I'm trying to walk you guys through my I'm really
doing process of elimination here.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I want to hear your process.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Okay, I don't think carry Grant said that.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Ah, you show you know.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I'm trying to think of the right Ryan Gosling is
like a north star for me, and so I think
I've seen a lot of his films. I just don't
remember him saying that. It is something that he I
feel like he'd delivered the hell out of that line
though film.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I think Drive.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I like Drive too.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I love Drive.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, and I think it's such a cool performance from him. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure Jacob says that in Euphoria, not only.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
The name of the actors as well the show or
the show I actould say as well, that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me
back in.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
That's good man.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Let me give you their choices. Okay, unless blindly you
know this, but that's.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well. Paccino. I think they named we did not know before?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Wow, did not see these questions?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
No, I didn't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
No, no, nothing nobody named iris.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Who stumped me there?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Deep?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I don't know Taxi Driver. Oh that I tell Okay,
I recently just watched Taxi Driver for the first time.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, it's worth a rewatch a long time. Yeah, it's remarkable,
remarkable anyway, Okay, I it was good. We haven't had
to eat a sweet.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
This is this is one of the.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Things like that's the if you get one wrong, have
sugar exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, I have to have three because no one's getting
me wrong.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Right, Okay, okay, you ready? Okay, I don't sound like nobody,
hey Sterling, K Brown, B, Austin Butler, CE, George Clooney
or d Kyle.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Mcgart Yeah, very good.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I helped you.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
You sure did with the help.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't know. I don't sound like every single A
little wait, wait just a minute.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, okay, okay, great.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Follow the money, Follow the money? Okay A Robert Redford,
B Michael B.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Jordan's see yours truly.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Follow the money? Which was Robert Redford? You said, yeah, yeah,
I think it's Robert Redford and that is correct. Yeah,
that's very good, very good reading. Credit.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
What's it from?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Thank you? Follow the money?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Ectra credit? Follow the money? Well, I want to say
all the presidents man you're correct. Well, congratulations, man, we
were sugar free. I had some before. Thank you so
much of course. Coming on, Oh my gosh, that's good.
Tell me what's what's the next? What's happening? Give me?
Give me like a you have film coming out?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yes, the sequel to the first film of Sideline, The
QB and Me will be coming out. Uh Sideline intercepted
on Thanksgiving Day. Intercepted, Yeah, great, thanksaving on on to B.
What I said earlier still stands. It's it is one
of those things where I mean, as you know, nothing's
promised in this industry. So if I can have some
(42:42):
momentum from this film, or if the industry will continue
to have me, I would absolutely love to do more
film and shows or whatever. But all in all, I
just want to continue to to create. Literally what we
were just talking about, I want to create. I want
to tell stories.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I was going to ask, is there something that you like,
a story that you think resonates with you or a
character or like a book, you know something. Yeah, You're like,
I really feel a kinship to this. Maybe you know
it's just soccer related or yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
If we want to play close to home. I think, yeah,
it's something down the line or something within the realm
of soccer, which I mean, it's the only genre I've done.
But I love rom coms and I will continue to
throw my hat in that ring to pursue those, Like
if there's anything that I've learned from my career thus far,
not even in just an acting but in social media
(43:37):
as well as like I don't really believe in getting
pigeonholed just because we live in a world now where
it's so like you might as well become like a
jack of all trades just to kind of learn something
to potentially have it manifest to lead to something. And
I I'm a big believer on if it's like, if
it's not, don't fix it. And I think the the
(43:58):
rom com space is there's always going to be an
appetite for it. And I'm a consumer of those films anyway,
and so I would love to continue to do that.
But yeah, eventually branching out and doing it like I
want to do every genre there is, and I want
to because you got to try it. It's like ballet class,
you gotta try.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It, you see. I think this is a points to
the different a difference in generation, right you're talking about
you are looking to do many, many, many different things. Yeah, right,
and to explore a lot of different things, which I
think is true of this younger generation of people that
are that are really engaged in social social My generation
(44:37):
is like, no, you do this thing. You're an actor
and then maybe you know, eventually you become a director, yeah,
you know or something like that. But you sort of
stay in your lane. Seems pretty severe. I don't think
it's exactly that, but I hear you y's like that,
and I think that's a big difference between you know,
people my age people. Your age is just like, no, no,
you can do all this stuff and have success at
(44:58):
all of these different things. Nothing find you. And I
think that's just a just a wonderful thing.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, I think at the end of the day, like
I think my generation is still trying to break that
stigma in a sense, because I mean, what I've learned
is that there are a lot of people that are
gonna say, oh, you started on social media, what makes
you think you can go into this? Like, yeah, it's
kind of that stand in your lane, and trust me,
some comments are a lot more blunt than that. But
(45:23):
if there's one thing I've learned, it's just that you
don't need to ask permission and you don't need to
like just do it and like be undeniable. But I
think I respect acting too much to think that I'm
entitled to be in some of these movies because of
my following or whatever. It's like, like I said, it's
getting you in the room, but it's not keeping you
in there, and so it's kind of all up to
(45:46):
me on whether or not I put in the work
to stay in there. And so I think the athlete
and me would not let like, if there's any part
of me that was slacking in that realm or was
thinking that there was bits of a titlement creeping in,
then I would. I'm harder. I'm harder on myself than anyone.
So it's like, yeah, yeah, I won't allow that. But well,
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I'm just I'm excited for the future. Honestly, I'm just
like I'm anxious to tell more stories. I just I've
learned that I just love film and shows, and yeah,
there's so much content to consume nowadays, and so I
just want to continue being a creator of that.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Brilliant Yeah, good, good, good, well, thank you, thank you.
That's all the time we have today. I mean there
is more time in the day. Yeah, this is as
far as we're going to go. Did we solve the riddle,
the riddle that unites us all? What are we even doing?
I don't know if we did, but we had a
great time doing it, going on our way, going on
this journey, and we're going to keep trying. So so again,
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having me right. What Are We Even Doing is a
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What are we even doing? What are we even doing?
Welcome to what are we even doing? We are rolling.
I'm Kyle Maclaughlan, your host for the day. This is
a program where were sitting down with actors, musicians, creatives
of all type and we talk about their process, what
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moves them in the crazy and wild world of social media.
And today we have a very very special guest. I'm
so excited Noah Beck is here and you are. You're
an actor, your influencer, you are, like I don't know,
you're a champion of the Internet as far as I
cans are. You make me feel both kind of cool
that you're here and very old at the same time.
But welcome. I'm so glad you're here. Thanks, thank you
for coming in. Man from not too far away, you said,
(00:43):
West Hollywood, So that's not too bad. I know. I
just rolled down out of the hills and here we
are a little studio undo these chairs. You got the comfy,
cozy heart that you're.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Sure do Like I was saying, I feel bad for
not having it on displays.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's good. Yeah, I got my hands here just in
case for coming for people are going to go like,
what the hell.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, welcome, welcome. I want to start. I want to
ask you a little bit about kind of how you started,
you know, kind of maybe that first spark of like wow,
I'm actually this is something that I like or that
I'm good at, or how did you find yourself kind
of falling down the rabbit hole of social media? Was
there a beginning?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Do that?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I mean, there was a beginning, but it's so hard
to like, No, it's actually quite easy to pinpoint when
it was. The start was it was COVID and like, okay,
I grew up my whole life playing soccer, and so
the very athletic background. I played just about every sport,
but whenever soccer wasn't season, that was priority.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And you started when you were a kid, imagine like.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Three, since I could since I could stand. Yeah, so
that was my passion.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
That was my love.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's what I wanted to do. There was really no
plan B in that sense, but it was more, Yeah,
that's just what I wanted to do. That's where my
heart was. My dad was also a coach of my
local high schools growing up, so he had definitely some
influence on that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Here of course, of course, was he a soccer player
as well? I mean was he was?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
He grew up more baseball, funny enough, but then he
fell into the coaching and you know then has been
coaching the local He just retired this year from coaching,
but he's coaching for just over thirty years.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That is such like a noble amazing thing because I'm
sure he was a great coach.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Man, the kind of influence that that can have on kids,
you know, particularly if it's if it's a positive thing,
if it's an encouraging thing. And I had that experience
when I was growing up, you know, when I was
like the ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, and we had a
coach he just was he was kind of like that
tough but compassionate. So you'd work really hard, but he
always like would give you a kind of a hug,
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you know around your shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, it was really important.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think a coach and a parent in my case
that can tiptoe on that line and can really yeah,
be that guy that pushes you but then also will
be the first one to hug you after a loss.
And so I think he was that for me, and
it's amazing because my I come from like a family
of educators. Funny enough, both my parents are teachers as well,
and my sister. Both my sisters got their degrees and
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teaching oh oh wow, yeah, and one of them's pursuing
it now. The other one did a year of it
and was like not for me, which what grade was
she teaching?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
She wanted to teach English high school.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh so there was not like that's tough all that
to say.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
March March or twenty twenty was when we kind of
got the blast email when I was walking at campus
and just we all looked at our phones, like I
remember this, like I remember it so vividly because it
felt like a scene out of a movie where everyone
looked at their phones like we got like an amber
alert or something.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It looked around and we were like, you guys getting
this too? Am I getting pranked?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And it was like need to evacuate campus.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I first thought was we're getting pranked here or something
was happening. Yeah, Like it didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Feel real, it was, yeah, and it was so out
of the blue, and I just from remember being like
all right, well, surely this will blow over in a week,
not really knowing what to expect. Yeah, of course not
and in hindsight, not realizing that it would be a
two year thing.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So you were on track playing soccer at school, yes,
and you were like, this is going to be my
life and it's a D one school I think, right, yeah,
which is pretty intense. Yeah, And I imagined the training,
which was pretty I mean, that's discipline.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You got to have this truly, And yeah, I think,
like I said, it was a mix of my dad
kind of being that influence on me growing up, and
then a culmination of all my coaches. I think from
being a kid. I loved it, like I loved the
hard work. I loved the competitiveness. I loved every training
feeling like nothing's given and it has to be earned.
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And I think I've definitely, in ways that may or
may not be healthy, have translated that to my life
now without having the.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well I'm curious about it. I'm curious about that because
if you grew up with that kind of discipline, we're
talking about social media and the kind of demands that
that makes on your time, I can only imagine. I mean,
I'm just scratching the surface here, and I'm finding it's
a you know, It's a not a full time job
in my case, but it takes a lot of time
and energy, and not just from me, but the people
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that I work with, some of whom are here in
the room with me right now, and they work hard,
you know, yeah, just to sort of stay current and
relevant and you know, in the world. So I was
saying as you were talking about that that discipline that
you have for playing soccer, because it's you know, it's
every day, yeah, and it's focused. You kind of have
to bring that, seems like into this world of social media,
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which you you've created this, I mean, you've got you've
covered so many different things and you've done many many
different things already. Thinking of sway, of course, I mean
that was living your life, and you know, I mean
it's that was a little different than living in a dorm.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I don't know, I mean there were similarities, but yeah,
it was.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, if that was leaning towards the question of like
what was that like, it was my experience of living
in a it was a frat house, and it was
very much that. And then you throw in a lot
more money than we should have been making us.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, very very helpful. Exactly make good choices exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
It was just everything was like just heightened at that time.
The drama that if it were happening at any other
high school or any other college in or any town
or whatever it is, the drama that would happen between
our house and the other house, and just like that
world and that time of Creators, everything was just so heightened.
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Like someone would you know, people would date similar people
and then it would it was just stuff that happens,
but because we were in the spotlight, it was just
like the biggest news ever. And then all of a sudden, Yeah,
going from a dorm room and like there's no training
for that, and there's no like preparation you can do
to all of a sudden like be in la and
(07:08):
have like seeing like glares of camera lenses from like
paparazzi and it's what do you want from me? Yeah? Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It was pretty It was pretty surreal.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And that did you handle because I know, I mean,
you've you've spoken about you're pretty shy person, you know
what I mean. In your life, you know what I mean.
But at the same time, here you are, did you
just jump in and say, yeah, what the heck was
try this was it one of the just like sounds fun.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I guess it's funny. We've been kind of like
going back to COVID when it first kind of happened,
and then the pandemic hit and we got sent home.
I went back to Arizona, which is where I'm from,
and then purely out of boredom, just started posting on
social media and just started. It started with the silly
little uh a little bet with my sister being an
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annoying younger brother. I was like, I bet I can
get more followers than you on TikTok and she was like,
I don't do it for that, and I was like,
I'm going to do it for that. And so there
was some out of body experiences that I was like,
in hindsight, like what right, what led me to posting that?
Or I don't know, it was when you.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Spoke about waking up one morning and suddenly you had
like twenty thousand something.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Just yeah this that day that I posted that video,
I posted at night and then woke up and it
literally twenty thousand followers, And it was did you think.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Of like, oh, I'm going to do something like another
influence out there or somebody that you had seen or
you said, oh, I kind of like this and maybe
I'll do something in the same vein or for.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That first video, I don't know what I was. I
think I looked up just I don't know. I did
my research and I looked at what other people my
age were doing, and you know, guys that looked similar
to me. I was like, what's working out there? And
I was like, I can copy this, And the thought
of my coach potentially seeing this, my teammates potentially seeing this,
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like didn't even cross my mind. And so it was
just like, yeah, I'm gonna do this and set up
my phone used like my sister's laptop as like my
ring light like low, hey, less is more in that sense,
and so I just I think it was a I
think it was a Meg Thee Stallion song featuring right
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Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, as my first video,
and it was very uh. I think I threw in
some really bad transitions in there, but something happened and
something worked.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well. Yeah, the camera loves you, first of all. That's
a nice thing. That's you never know until you sort
of get out there, and you never know how is
it going to translate? Through the lens. So that's that's
that's a cool story.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty true.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's that's pretty cool. So you're in Portland, you were
at school, you went back, you went back to Arizona
to kind of wait out COVID thing, and then did
you sort of say at some point, hey, I gotta
go to l A or was there a yeah, back
to Portland or how did how how did that work?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah? So fast forward from that video from that night
three months and you know this, this is gonna sound ridiculous,
but like four or five million followers later in those
three months, which.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Is that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It was surreal.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But it also again if it was just a number
on a phone, because I didn't know, it was so
foreign to me, Like this concept and just like seeing
how that would translate to real life didn't even like
apply to me yet.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And so it was when I started.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
To receive emails and dms from brands other influencers at
the time and being like, Yo, we should work together,
or Yo, we should collab, you should come hang out
with us. It was just like this thing that was
so I was like, look, I'm just waiting for that
email to come back to school, like I just want
play soccer. And then that email never came and it
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really just felt like this lightning in a bottle moment
and I don't know, all you have is your instinct,
and I had this weird feeling in me that I
was like, all right, well soccer is going to be there.
Like I'm not all of a sudden just gonna lose
all my ability over the span of a month if
I decide to go out to LA and give this
a shot. Yeah, And that's what I did, and yeah,
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it was pretty It was pretty surreal like that. I
remember that first month in LA in June to kind
of like test the waters, and not even not even
with the thought of I'm.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Going to live out here and I'm gonna do this thing.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It was more of just like I'll go out there
for like a week, hang out with these guys that
have been texting me basically being like you should come
over and like we should make videos.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So there's one that they just sort of said you, Hey,
whence you come out. Did you like consult with anybody
or like, oh who should parents? Yeah, I mean that's
the best, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I was like, hey, mom, dad, like there's some guys
on TikTok that are like some of the most fallowed
guys in the app, and they want to hang out
with me, like should and were they like, yeah, they're
like pumped the brakes, so what do you mean? And
I was like, look, I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But it feels like a good thing and they supporting you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And ultimately I had to kind of go through the
channels here and I had to.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I was like, guys, is there an.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Adult I think they're all early twenties. I was like,
is there an adult round when you guys have a
manager or something my parents can talk to to like
exactly and.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Somebody with a prefrontal cortex exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Okay, I developed in there, and fortunately there was, and
they spoke to him, and who they spoke to on
the phone is now my manager to this day, wow,
which is great. So yeah, he basically eased their nerves
and he was like, look, your son is doing really
well on this app. And I was like I was
sitting hearing this and I was like, doing really well.
Like I'm posting stupid videos. It's strictly out of like
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building a hole.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, like I was.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
All these videos were fueled by my boredom during COVID,
and I think that's where I don't know if I
was a consumer, I guess that's where the authenticity shined.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Through because there was no niche.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
There was no like one video I'd be dancing in
the bathroom shirtless, and then one would be baking with
my mom, and then one would be soccer video and
it was just all over the place and so and
then I like love to dabble with like the acting
audios and stuff like that. Yeah, So like I think
I found a weird love for that through.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well it was super authentic. Yeah, which I think that's
the one thing that I've learned during this process is
if you're just yourself, you know, Yeah, there's just really
people respond to that. Yeah, either they recognize a kindred
spirit or they just appreciate the fact that you're being here.
I am you know, kind of works on all of that.
I look great, you look great, you know what I mean,
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You're like, this is meeah and putting it out there.
It sounds like it's a very creative process for you.
Was it something that was there other thing that pointed
towards that When you were younger, did you have like
a creative side or you know.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's funny because I've recently been thinking about this because,
like I said, my parents and my whole family are
educators and I ironically dropped out of So that's kind
of exactly there you go. But it was to pursue this,
and it was I don't know, it's not even that
anyone in my family was like overly creative. It's not
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even in hindsight that I was. It was more they
instilled this like curiosity into me. I think being teachers,
they like I never want to stop learning, and the
moment that I mean the day that I assume that
I have it all figured out, I need someone to
come and slap me because it's far from the truth.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And I just love learning.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I love being curious, and I love because I don't
know what's the latter, Like why would I want to be?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, no, I see that. And because you said, you know,
you post all these different things and curiosity, I think
is they think it keeps us young. I mean, for
goodness sake. I mean you are young, h but it's
a thing whereas you get older and older, you just
you want to keep learning. All the people that I successful,
people older, successful, even middle aged anywhere, are all curious.
So you know, you can be eighty five years old
and you're still curious about something and you stay young.
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And it's kind of funny enough. It's why I'm here
doing this podcast, which is something unexpected and unusually. I'm
curious about a generation that I don't know that much about,
so nowhere here chatting about it, and you're telling me
what it's like to be an influencer. Would you just
call yourself an influence or what would you say? I
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don't know, Maybe that's not the right.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Is there ever a right word?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I think I've literally had talks with my with my
publicist about this. When people ask my title, what do
I give them? Because I mean, I guess that's a
good thing because I like to just do different things.
So it's not like I hope it's not an egotistical thing,
but it's more of just like, like, I don't know,
maybe a creator and a.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Creator is a good word that I was going to
say that or and with that course comes to a responsibility.
But I feel like you're really tapped into that. Maybe
that's part of the jig from a family of educators,
have responsibility to what you put out there. You know,
it's fun, maybe there's something you're something or showing something
or you know, but you I think I feel like
you you lead by example, you know, and I think
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that's that's that's the strongest way to lead honestly. Yeah,
you know, you know, I watched you cooking videos. I'm
a I like to cook as well. Love it is
that your mom, dad, sister is your own thing.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I mean, they're gonna kill me neither.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
To be honest, I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Have them make dinner. No no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, funny enough.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Growing up, my dad every every once in a blue
moon would hop on the grill and it was like
one of my favorite nights because I love grilled food
like that. Yeah, and my mom, I mean, bless her heart,
she was not the best cook.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And she knows. We have that in comment.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I think that that came later in life, because I
don't think I wasn't exactly whipping it up in my
dorm room in Portland either, and I wasn't doing that
at home, and so I think it honestly came when
I started to live on my own. Yeah, the uber
eats apps started to kind of run up, and I
was like, yet, I gotta cut back on this and
maybe learn how to cook a little. And so I've
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really enjoyed it, and I've almost kind of like romanticized
cooking at home and like it's kind of a nice
therapeutic thing that I like to like set up.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Like meditation, I think for sure, completely completely takes your
time and focus.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, it does. Like I said, it's fun just like
romanticizing it and just kind of like doing it. And
it's like this like self care that you can kind
of do that these little things that you can do
to help better yourself tomorrow. And like, yeah, I'm big
on that. And it's not that everything in life, because
there's that I'm constantly playing Devil's Advocate with myself with everything,
trying to always look at like two sides of a
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coin of like, all right, well I need to eat
super clean because tomorrow, like myself will be thanking me,
et cetera. But then I'm like, okay, well, not everything
that I eat needs to be like for betterment, like
you can give a little and so yeah, I found
myself doing that quite a lot with just like mundane
things in life. I'm like, not everything needs to be
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this stress on, like am I going to regret it tomorrow?
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And so you have a war, a little bit of
a war. I don't know. I'm OCD for sure, and
I battle that all the time. Yeah, decisions, you know
what I mean? And is it the right decision?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is just good?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's just bad? And sometimes you just go, I don't
want to I don't want to battle anymore. Exactly go forward,
you know, exactly did you think about everything? And I
also think too. I mean, I don't know if it
comes out in the posting that you do, but you know,
there's a perfectionist thing that I have and I've had
to really just let that go. Thank you to my
team really help me. And they're like, say, it's great, Yeah,
(18:37):
let it be. And I think in some ways that's
what people want to see. They want to see the
you know, not that everything's perfect. You know, you just
have fun with it, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah. There is almost this like responsibility to make your
life seem glamorous or in ways like with the filter
on it. And I've learned to kind of just peel
peel that back, and I've almost learned that the more
I feel that like back, the better it seems.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, like yes, things can still be.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Curated, but like not in like a perfected yea, it's
like this controlled.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Well, I think they may. I think you're you're in
this process and I know acting is something that you're
pursuing heavily, and that what you describe is exactly what
you do as an actor. Right, you start pulling off
these layers of this person of yourself and you start
showing things maybe not so proud of, but there are
(19:28):
things that are part of the human experience, which I think, Yeah,
it's just it's this process and then getting to the
point where you can actually go, Okay, you may see
some things in me that you're not going to like,
but you know, within the confines of the character, that's
who this person is and have no judgment on it.
So this is just who this person is and that's
what I'm playing, you know, And I think as you
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go on this journey which you're on, I just encourage
you to continue to do that, to pull back that stuff,
you know, because it's that's the gold.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Really, Yeah, no, that's I mean that's really well put.
It kind of goes back to the never stop learning
kind of mantra of it all. It's like, I feel
like I'm constantly just exploring things, whether it's about myself,
whether it's about a character, and like really embracing it
and figuring out, like why is it that I'm this
way or the character is that way? And so I
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think there's yeah, there's a lot to unpackt there. Yeah,
I think it's fun to do that.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, that's the journey. You're talking earlier about something and
I think about the frat stuff, and I remember thinking
part of what I was also in a frat for
a short period of time, which I wasn't really ready for.
But it was good. It was a good experience where
that was at the University of Washington. Okay, yeah, I
(20:47):
was a beta up there. Amazing, it was really Yeah,
it is amazing because you don't look at me. I'm like,
he doesn't look like a beta to me. But anyway,
they let me in somehow. But I don't think I
was ready for I don't think it was I could
handle it funny enough. And then I was thinking about
the team being on a team sport as soccer as
a team sport. And then you were talking about the
experience of being in with Sway and with your group,
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and I feel like it's something that as an actor
I really enjoy. I enjoy the the group effort. I
enjoy having partners, you know, around, and we're this little team,
this little band of people, you know, and that, and
we're like the circus, you know what I mean. It's
like everyone's working together for like a greater a greater good,
you know, a better a better thing. We're trying to
(21:31):
create something special, you know, and I really love that.
I don't know if that's something you share as you know,
you talked about of course your film on to B Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Sideline exactly, and there's a new one to Yes. I
don't know if that was something the experience of that
working together with crew and actors and everything with something
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that you really responded.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, it's actually crazy. You took the words exactly right
out of my mouth. That is something that I mean
because when I first kind of felt like acting as
something that I'd like to explore, I was was kind
of a naive, delusional thought of mine that I was like, oh, well,
people seem to like me on this small screen, right,
maybe that'll translate to a big screen, right, And like
(22:16):
it was part of that, and it was almost this
like liberating thing of like I'm a little tired sometimes
of being Noah Beck. Like it's like like I want
to be someone else. I want to live in someone
else's shoes, and like maybe there will be something that
I enjoy about that process. And honestly, like call it ego,
ego or whatever, but I was like, and yeah, the
the ring of being a movie star has got a
(22:37):
nice like shit to it. I was like, that's a
cool title. But all that to say, like I did
what I know how I'm wired. I was just like,
all right, well I got to become a student to
this and I got a train at it. So it
was a mix of like what my parents instilled into
me and then the athletic background of like I'm gonna
work my ass off and continue to explore this thing
that I know nothing about, Like I didn't grow up
(22:59):
doing theater, and so there was like this chip on
my shoulder to consume everything and just be a sponge
because I know nothing about this and so talking to
people like yourself and just people that are experienced in
this space. I'm like, I love hearing their experience because
what I've learned about it is that it's so not
one size fits all and everyone has their own process.
(23:22):
But yeah, that is word for word what I fell
in love with it. It was purely the collaboration. I
was like, oh, this is what I've been missing for
because social media.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
As you know, you and the camera, you know, yeah,
it's it.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Can be as lonely or as collaborative as you make it.
And yeah, but with a movie, it takes a village
and it takes like I just loved it. I fell
in love with everyone coming together and all for that
final product. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, that's what I like about it too.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Loved it. You know what's really funny. I get this
question in the past month like three or four times.
Like I got chirped the other day on like on
the street, this group of like I think it was
from young like baseball team. I was walking in like
Manhattan Beach like with one of my friends, right, and
they were all like renegade for us, And I was like,
come on, and I'm like, are we not past this?
(24:12):
But well, you know what's really funny and like there's
you can. My digital footprint is insane, So like good
luck finding it, but also like you won't because I've
actually never done the Renegade whatever. You couldn't find it.
There is no I've never done the the best it was,
it was slightly behind. It was slightly before my time.
(24:35):
Like I think it was like a really trending dance
like on right around that time, like May or April
or May of twenty twenty, and so it was yeah,
so it was right. Yeah, I wasn't exactly doing a
ton of dances when I was back home, and I
think I started to dance more and do just like
fun ones with like the Sway Boys and so this
(24:56):
was like azy TikTok and so like he was not
doing the Renegade and so like by the time I
came to La, there were other dances, but there are
other Renegade is.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Very complicated, crazy ones.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, I've tried dances. I've tried.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You've done some dances.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
This is a disaster. That's okay, that's okay, but that's
part of the fun. It's good things rise the top
and things that are not so good. It's like what
I do in my dancing.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But yeah, all that matters is that you're having fun.
I mean, I mean at the end of the day, yes,
exactly exactly. How are you finding it? Like being on
social media and doing the podcast?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Like, I am really enjoying it really, Yeah, just having
you here having a conversation. You know, I've been doing this,
I've I've got a few under my belt, really and
I didn't know how I was going to react, but
I'm I am thoroughly enjoying it. I always say, you know,
I know, like my heroes, people that I followed, I
was coming up as an actor, you know, I was
looking at Marlon Brando. I was even looking at James
(25:52):
Dean and Cliff some of the older and I was
I was focused on theater. Yeah, so that was kind
of where I was going. Yeah, I don't know what's coming,
you know, generations behind you know what I mean, that's
the people that are coming up and the waves that
are coming. I see names and I'm like, I don't
know who these people are. Yeah, like you know, I
should I can have broaden my my understanding of things. Said,
(26:13):
let's let's look and see and talk with people that
are creatives that are coming from a from another time,
you know, and figure out hear their story and what's important.
Especially with the advent of social media now it's such
as such a huge impact on everything and how it's
being used by the people that actually grew up with it.
You know, you have a facility with it. Yeah, I
don't necessarily have, but I'm trying to learn. Yeah, it
(26:35):
goes back to learning.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I was just about to out. I was just going
to say, like, yeah, even like it doesn't matter how
old you are, it's like you just can never be
so stagnant in your ways, and I think it's really
cool that you're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
This, and it's like thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, And having listened to a few of the episodes,
like I love Dylan O'Brien.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Like he's great.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, never met him. I'm just a big fan of
his work and.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I hate him absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You guys had such a good report. He's awesome, and
like being a fan of his work via via movies
or whatever. And there's some other interviews that I've seen
of his that I'm like, it seems like a cool
guy off off set as well. But having listened to
your guys interview, I'm like, oh, this just confirms like,
it's cool when you get a little bit more of
(27:21):
an insider on some of these people. But I feel
that i'm a little too. I think there are some
people that if they want to, they can know me
better than I know myself via online because I just
share so much. Everything is out there. Everything is out there,
and I think, yeah, I'm coming up at a different
time where social media you can choot pick and choose
what you share, but I've just chose to be an
(27:44):
open book online and so yeah, pretty much everything about
me is online.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It's pretty amazing when you think about it. It's scary, yeah,
but it's different. I mean, you're in I gotta uncharted territory, honestly.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And so I feel like again playing the Devil's Advocate,
Like there's so many drawbacks in this episode, but it's
it's so funny because I think going back, I'm like, well,
this is cool because I could kind of be a
pioneer in this space of like I really want to
act and like I want to do it. Like I'm
aware that having the following and having this platform could
potentially help me get into a door, but it's not
(28:18):
going to keep me in the room. At first, there
was this imposter syndrome and I was getting auditions that
I was like, that's insane because I'm like a fan
of this franchise or I'm a fan like I know
when this movie comes out, Yeah, I'm going to be
a fan of this movie, and so like to even
think that I have a chance of being a character
in it, or I.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Still have the imposter syndrome.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I mean like wait a minute, they thinking of me?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, my god.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But I read something the other day and it was
really interesting and like it completely shifted my perspective of
imposter syndrome. Is like basically along the lines of imposter
syndrome being a good thing, and it means that you're
doing something cool, and it means like chasing that imposter
syndrome because there are many people that will never experience
that feeling of like I'm doing something so amazing that
(29:03):
it feels like this shouldn't be happening to me or
for me yea, but in fact, like rethinking that, like
I love chasing that feeling. Now, Yeah, like let's see
how much crazier this life can get. Let's see what
more I can accomplish. And it's like it's a cool
thing to chase, but it's it's also kind of a
slippery slope, like.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
What more can I do?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
What more?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Am?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
But I think with acting, at first it was very
much that and like playing the Devil's advocate of like
all right, well, growing up seeing these movie stars and
seeing these people that I was fans of and it
was like I know nothing about them and now trying
to do the thing where I'm like reverse engineering it
where I have this platform when I said yes to
(29:45):
that first film, like everything that I said prior to
you know, being a movie star, it sounds amazing, etc.
But I'm like, am I gonna love these? Like I
had people prep me for like it's gonna be long days.
Early mornings, I was like talking my language, I've been
craving this, like I need to be a part of
a team, and like yeah, I need to have these
bounce boards and like I want to fulfill this creative
(30:08):
side that I feel like it's so hard to which
just myself and the phone and I've I didn't feel
like I hit this plateau, but it was almost Yeah, creatively,
I was like I got to do something bigger and
like I want to and so thank God that I
had such an amazing experience with the first film, and
just knowing that that is what it takes to make
(30:30):
a film, I'm like, oh, sign me up, Like I'm
in this now.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Discipline.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, it's amazing. And so if the if the industry
continues to have me, I I would love to continue working.
But it's I've been very humbled by the by the process, because,
like I said, the platform can get me in rooms,
but it's yeah, like I think I've done over hundreds
of auditions and it's like this is the journey. Yeah,
(30:58):
and I'm sure, yeah, if you have any tips in that.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Real oh man, no, you The tips are just keep
doing it, yeah, And I mean try and find the
best people to work with and work with them and
just absorb everything you know, and and as I said earlier,
continue to try to peel back and let yourself be there,
which I feel like in some ways, I'm like, no,
because you have lived in front of the camera, not
for your entire life, but for you know, a portion,
(31:22):
and so it's like being comfortable in front of the
camera is really important, which obviously that's something I feel like,
like that that's happening that's great. It's like getting inside
the skin of the character, understanding everything about the psychology
of the character as much as you can, and then
just really connecting with the person you're working with. You
know who, Remember that may be it's all that, it's
(31:43):
all that, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Do you remember when you realize that act?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
There were a couple of things. Yeah, a couple of things.
And I think when I was a kid, my mom
would encourage me to join There was a teen theater
group in town, and I was like, I can't be
bothered with this annoying and I would go to these
things and it was really really the social yeah, the
things that I really enjoyed. Hanging out with some of
my friends and there were two girls around and I
was like, not so bad, you know, Yeah, I liked
(32:11):
this b Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Did you ever do ballet?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I didn't, but I took two years of ballet.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yes, Oh my god. It wasn't I was terrible cool,
it was no, it was a college. I was serious.
It was terrible. There were three guys and thirty five girls.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
It doesn't sound so bad.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I was awful, and I love my teacher, but I
was terrible. Yeah, absolutely terrible. But I you know, again,
try something, you try it. You know, this is fun
with the heck, how can I not be fun and
good hard work? I mean it was. It was a
good workout. Yeah, that was part. That was part of it.
And I think I said it it'll help me with
my fight training or something. I went to like a
program where I was trained. We had three years of
(32:52):
acting training for repertory theater. So that was it. Theater
and that's what I was going to do. And then
movies kind of came in and and I my first
film I came in. I was my first screen test.
I'd never seen a film camera before. I never no
one had ever done my hair in my makeup before,
and you know, I was like, what the hell is
all this? You know, I was green as can be,
(33:13):
you know.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And it was Dune, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, totally totally. And I watched the movie now and
I'm like, you don't know what you're doing there, do you?
I can just watch my stiff the whole day. That
seems a critic Oh yeah, yeah, yeah totally.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
What was that auditioning process like and how if you
felt like or if this was your first time seeing
a film camera and you didn't like, this was such
a foreign thing to you.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, how'd you get the role? I just I you know,
I had a great good fortune to work with to
meet David Lynch. He and I had a connection right
at the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
And he was my on just a personal level, on
a personal level, yeah, So he was kind of we
were we were We bonded quickly, almost as brothers. It
was so interesting. So Dune was our first and he
helped me through that, and then Blue Velvet was the
second and worked together again, and then Twin p and
that whatever, that connection was, that magic that we had
(34:05):
and I, you know, I really trusted him and and
I had trusted my training too, and I was gradually
able to sort of interface film acting with what I
knew theater acting right, And it took a bit of time.
There was some rough edges, you know, such as I
had the background, oh just you know, just learning what
(34:26):
the camera does. Yeh. See, you have already had a
relationship with the camera.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Social media has kind of trained me to like be
I've had to become comfortable in front of the camera,
so that it's had a weird way of I guess, yeah,
training me for that because I had I had a
really interesting conversation with my with my co star on
on the movie, and like there were so many times
where I'm just I'm I was so self conscious and
so it wasn't even I was self conscious in the
(34:52):
right way. I was more I guess again, curious of
like are you believing this? Like after every scene, like
he'd say cut and I would be like, I would
say to her, name is Sienna, and.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Does this feel real? Like I feel like I could do.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It so many different ways and she's like, that's acting
like it's subjective and like how you're doing it is great,
you could do it ten other different ways. And I
was like, oh, I don't say that because that makes
it sound.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Like there's no right. Yeah, there's no right exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's not a one size fits all. So I had
to learn that very quickly of like you just kind
of have to commit and like if you're going to
make a choice, make a choice, and like, but don't
have asst and just make it feel so listening and
the responding in it, and it really, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
So we had an exercise when I was in Classic
called talking and listening and basically that's it as if
you're hearing something for the first time and responding to
it in a new way, right, And it's one of
the things that sort of I've I've been working on
it too, to be honest, you know, in the past
ten years. It's like getting in front of the camera
and just sort of saying, I don't know where we're
going to go with this.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
We always play a game great towards the end of
the interview, and it's called name that heart throb. You're
You're you're more of a heart throb than I've an
older heart back in the day. But we're going to
take turns reading lines from that certain heart throbs have said,
and then we're going to try and guess who said it. Okay, Yeah,
it's a multiple choice. So when we come back, we're
(36:20):
back with our heart throb section. And the reason that
we're wearing these these it's not a costume. I mean,
I you know, I wear this occasionally. It's part of
my wardrobe. Is because nights were the original heart throbs.
I think at least that's what we're saying right now.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
So that's true.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
You look great, by the way, the whole. Yeah, the mess. Yeah,
it's nice. Glasses work too. I think it's kind of
a fun touch. I took my glasses off to warre these,
so I can't see a thing, but I'm just pretending. Okay,
we're back with our segment. Okay, name that heart throb.
Now I'm going to take I'm going to read lines
from various heart throbs throughout history, and we'll have to
(36:59):
decide which one it is. Oh yeah, and we have
candy here. So if you you're pretty I know you're
pretty pretty healthy, but if you win, we should be
thinking if you lose one, you have to eat a candy.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
That's more of an incentive there, because they're very spicy
their heart.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, spicy hot Tomali's okay, all right, first one,
here we go. All right, here's my line. What team
Wildcats A zach Efron, B Paul Newman, no help see
(37:35):
Charles Melton, okay or D Kyle McLachlin.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm gonna go A.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I'm gonna go Zachron is correct? The right answer? Well done,
thank you, well done? All right to me, it happens
you have been watching all your films. I'm very proud.
Of you.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay, Ice musical was was one that I did not
need to like do any catch up on. My sisters had.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That right, repeat, I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Movies are ahead of its time. Okay, here's mine.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I'm the king of the world.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
That was me. No, I'm just kidding a.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Ethan Hawk, B Leonardo DiCaprio see Jeremy All and White. D.
Kyle mcla.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
My sensor recurring theme here with my name. Oh well,
Ethan would have loved to have said that. Yeah, but
I think that's Leo.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I think that's yes.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Indeed the world. Oh bless him. Okay, prepare yourself. There's
some bad words in this. Gives it home. If you
were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have fucked your
best friend's boyfriend. Let me say it again, more passion.
If you were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have
fucked your best friend's boyfriend. A carry grant. If you
(39:01):
were a fucking sweet person, you wouldn't have fucked your
best friend's boyfriend. I say it again, b Ryan Gosling.
I'm not even gonna try to one person. See Jacob
Lordi okay, D Kyle McLachlin.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Seem really doing.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I'm trying to walk you guys through my I'm really
doing process of elimination here.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I want to hear your process.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Okay, I don't think carry Grant said that.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Ah, you show you know.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I'm trying to think of the right Ryan Gosling is
like a north star for me, and so I think
I've seen a lot of his films. I just don't
remember him saying that. It is something that he I
feel like he'd delivered the hell out of that line
though film.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I think Drive.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I like Drive too.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I love Drive.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, and I think it's such a cool performance from him. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure Jacob says that in Euphoria, not only.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
The name of the actors as well the show or
the show I actould say as well, that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me
back in.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
That's good man.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Let me give you their choices. Okay, unless blindly you
know this, but that's.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well. Paccino. I think they named we did not know before?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Wow, did not see these questions?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
No, I didn't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
No, no, nothing nobody named iris.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Who stumped me there?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Deep?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I don't know Taxi Driver. Oh that I tell Okay,
I recently just watched Taxi Driver for the first time.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, it's worth a rewatch a long time. Yeah, it's remarkable,
remarkable anyway, Okay, I it was good. We haven't had
to eat a sweet.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
This is this is one of the.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Things like that's the if you get one wrong, have
sugar exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, I have to have three because no one's getting
me wrong.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Right, Okay, okay, you ready? Okay, I don't sound like nobody,
hey Sterling, K Brown, B, Austin Butler, CE, George Clooney
or d Kyle.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Mcgart Yeah, very good.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I helped you.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
You sure did with the help.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't know. I don't sound like every single A
little wait, wait just a minute.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, okay, okay, great.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Follow the money, Follow the money? Okay A Robert Redford,
B Michael B.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Jordan's see yours truly.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Follow the money? Which was Robert Redford? You said, yeah, yeah,
I think it's Robert Redford and that is correct. Yeah,
that's very good, very good reading. Credit.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
What's it from?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Thank you? Follow the money?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Ectra credit? Follow the money? Well, I want to say
all the presidents man you're correct. Well, congratulations, man, we
were sugar free. I had some before. Thank you so
much of course. Coming on, Oh my gosh, that's good.
Tell me what's what's the next? What's happening? Give me?
Give me like a you have film coming out?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yes, the sequel to the first film of Sideline, The
QB and Me will be coming out. Uh Sideline intercepted
on Thanksgiving Day. Intercepted, Yeah, great, thanksaving on on to B.
What I said earlier still stands. It's it is one
of those things where I mean, as you know, nothing's
promised in this industry. So if I can have some
(42:42):
momentum from this film, or if the industry will continue
to have me, I would absolutely love to do more
film and shows or whatever. But all in all, I
just want to continue to to create. Literally what we
were just talking about, I want to create. I want
to tell stories.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I was going to ask, is there something that you like,
a story that you think resonates with you or a
character or like a book, you know something. Yeah, You're like,
I really feel a kinship to this. Maybe you know
it's just soccer related or yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
If we want to play close to home. I think, yeah,
it's something down the line or something within the realm
of soccer, which I mean, it's the only genre I've done.
But I love rom coms and I will continue to
throw my hat in that ring to pursue those, Like
if there's anything that I've learned from my career thus far,
not even in just an acting but in social media
(43:37):
as well as like I don't really believe in getting
pigeonholed just because we live in a world now where
it's so like you might as well become like a
jack of all trades just to kind of learn something
to potentially have it manifest to lead to something. And
I I'm a big believer on if it's like, if
it's not, don't fix it. And I think the the
(43:58):
rom com space is there's always going to be an
appetite for it. And I'm a consumer of those films anyway,
and so I would love to continue to do that.
But yeah, eventually branching out and doing it like I
want to do every genre there is, and I want
to because you got to try it. It's like ballet class,
you gotta try.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It, you see. I think this is a points to
the different a difference in generation, right you're talking about
you are looking to do many, many, many different things. Yeah, right,
and to explore a lot of different things, which I
think is true of this younger generation of people that
are that are really engaged in social social My generation
(44:37):
is like, no, you do this thing. You're an actor
and then maybe you know, eventually you become a director, yeah,
you know or something like that. But you sort of
stay in your lane. Seems pretty severe. I don't think
it's exactly that, but I hear you y's like that,
and I think that's a big difference between you know,
people my age people. Your age is just like, no, no,
you can do all this stuff and have success at
(44:58):
all of these different things. Nothing find you. And I
think that's just a just a wonderful thing.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, I think at the end of the day, like
I think my generation is still trying to break that
stigma in a sense, because I mean, what I've learned
is that there are a lot of people that are
gonna say, oh, you started on social media, what makes
you think you can go into this? Like, yeah, it's
kind of that stand in your lane, and trust me,
some comments are a lot more blunt than that. But
(45:23):
if there's one thing I've learned, it's just that you
don't need to ask permission and you don't need to
like just do it and like be undeniable. But I
think I respect acting too much to think that I'm
entitled to be in some of these movies because of
my following or whatever. It's like, like I said, it's
getting you in the room, but it's not keeping you
in there, and so it's kind of all up to
(45:46):
me on whether or not I put in the work
to stay in there. And so I think the athlete
and me would not let like, if there's any part
of me that was slacking in that realm or was
thinking that there was bits of a titlement creeping in,
then I would. I'm harder. I'm harder on myself than anyone.
So it's like, yeah, yeah, I won't allow that. But well,
(46:09):
I'm just I'm excited for the future. Honestly, I'm just
like I'm anxious to tell more stories. I just I've
learned that I just love film and shows, and yeah,
there's so much content to consume nowadays, and so I
just want to continue being a creator of that.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Brilliant Yeah, good, good, good, well, thank you, thank you.
That's all the time we have today. I mean there
is more time in the day. Yeah, this is as
far as we're going to go. Did we solve the riddle,
the riddle that unites us all? What are we even doing?
I don't know if we did, but we had a
great time doing it, going on our way, going on
this journey, and we're going to keep trying. So so again,
(46:50):
appreciate you here, Thanks man, thank you so much for
having me right. What Are We Even Doing is a
production of iHeartMedia and the ls DURAN podcast Network, hosted
by me Kyle McLachlin and created and produced by Full
Picture Productions Yay, featuring music by Yata and artwork by
(47:11):
Danica Robinson. For more information about the podcast, please visit
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