August 6, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode, Gandhi chats with Will.I.Am and Taboo of the Black Eyed Peas about everything from the new single, to the dark side of AI. We also find out who Diamond and Gandhi BOTH have a huge crush on, as of today.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, Hello, okay, Hi Diamond, all right, sauce on the side.
What's up. It's Gandhi with my girl Diamond, who I
absolutely love an a door for a lot of reasons.
Today is gonna be an interesting episode.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
So I actually we're recording this part before I get
to the edit. I just talked to Will I Am
and Taboo of the Black Eyed Peas for maybe an hour.
Talk to them for a long time. Have a couple
of takeaways. Taboo, I want to marry. I am not
the marrying type, but if that man was interested, I'd
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have to think about it, because oh my god, beautiful,
beautiful man, just like everything about him was he was.
He just has that like he was like, fuck you up.
I looked at him, but he has amazing tattoos, his jewelry,
he was wearing like turk jewelry. Incredible, And I think
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when you hear this interview, you're gonna hear a very
stark contrast between Taboo and Will I Am. Who could
be an alien? I'm not sure. Like he was great.
They were super friendly and like, very very nice. I
just there were a couple of times I had to
reset in my brain. What was the question I asked,
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because like we went off and you're gonna hear because
I'm not taking it out. A moment where Taboo and
I were like having a whole conversation and he says
something about Will, and then we went to Will, and
then Will answered a question from approximately two minutes before,
and then was like, wait, what are you gonna talk about?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You guys had like a whole conversation, right, It was great.
It was a really fun interview. Again, Taboo, Hello, I
don't even if he's single, Probably shouldn't even say this
this free.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yea, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And then also Will said in the interview that one
of the things that I brought up he didn't want
to address while the cameras were rolling, but he would
address later because it was very dark. And then they
got ushered out of the studio so fast. Because I
talked to them for so long, I never had to
find out what it was. So I'm gonna try to
chase them down and figure this out.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
What do you think it was?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
We will find out. I will go see if there's
any type of resolution to it. They have another interview
down the hallway in a second, so they're not leaving
but yeah. And I also when I when they walked
out of the studio, I was like, oh my god, taboo,
And shockingly, Diamond was like, yeah, no, yeah, whoa. I
feel like we don't often agree on dudes, but no.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But he's yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh yeah, everything about him, sir, look at us being
complete goofs What okay? What are the odds that in
the last episode we were talking about if I'm attracted
to somebody, I can't function or focus around them. I
did with him, but what happened? I was sweating, like
dripping sweats so bad.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
We love to see a nerve queen.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
He came to give me a hug at the end,
and I was like, please don't touch me. This is
gonna be so bad. Just look at that face, the
fatal hair, the personality. Give me that anyway. Look at
us just fawning all over him. He's amazing. It's Taboo
and Will I Am from the Black Eyed Peas do
with this what you will? We talked about a lot
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of stuff Taboo and will I am. How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah? Okay, I'm doing very well and I love the
project that you guys are currently working on. East La.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Did you watch the video?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I watched the video. I watched it all the way
to the end to hear what you have to say
about East La, and I would like to start there.
So the two of you are from East Lay, Yes,
and this song, as you guys have covered in the past,
you guys have tackled some heavier subject when you did
Where's the Love? That was very important at the time.
It's wild to think all these years later, we're still
in that vein of what the fuck is going on here?
(03:59):
And it's worse so with you guys with East La.
Who wants to fill me in on where the concept
came from this and what is specifically is about.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I wrote the.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Song just in celebration of the neighborhood. I have a
program teaching kids computer science and robotics and college prep,
and we have awesome scholars at the program, and I
wanted to celebrate the neighborhood and thank the neighborhood for
all the awesome memories, the culture, the vibration. This is
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before the Ice raids. I just wanted to celebrate the neighborhood.
The Black Eyed Peas were out on tour and I'm like, yo, Dad,
wouldn't it be dope if we took that Carlos Santana
song and just highlighted the East La part. And so
that was always on my mind, and then the ice
raids happened, So I'm like, yo, we needed to make
a song that changes the vibration and celebrates the neighborhood
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because there's been fear pumped into our community. They've been sloppily, clumsily.
I hope it sloppily clumsily, because if it was strategically,
that's just inhumane, going after people that are brown mask
men and unmarked cars, nabbing residents. They even nabbed a
person who served in the military, right because he's Latin.
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So that mandate someone in government approved it went a mess.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
He just grabbed anybody.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's insane. Yeah, that kidnapping people in broad daily, Yeah,
in their own neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Families being taken away.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And people are just letting this happen.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, and you couldn't even like who was it? Can
you give me a description? But how would you know
the difference between a kidnapper and these folks?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And how do we know that that hasn't happened at
some point in the process of all of this. So
what is Eastla like for you guys right now? Because
I think one of the things that happens a lot,
we see it here in New York. We've seen these
things happening. You guys are seeing it in La and
the cities between those two places. I think a lot
of people are having a hard time believing that this
is going on and wrapping their heads around how it
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actually happened. So for you, Yabo, what is Estla like
right now?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Honestly, we've been through a crazy twenty twenty five starting
with the fires Altadena, Palisades, Malibu, So as a Angelino,
we're heavily affected by that. Maybe people think it's over,
but it's not. There's still a lot of remnants of,
you know, getting back to a healing, some former healing.
So that was the beginning of the year. Then you
get to the ice rates and the energy of the
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people needing healing as well, like who's standing up for us,
Who's who's gonna champion Latinos, Mexicanos, who's going to champion us?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Even other people from.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Salvador, from Guatemala, Nicaraua, all these different people that make
up Los Angeles as a mosaic of cultural representation.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It felt like East LA Boyle.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Heights, and I'll say Will has more and more connection
to it because he's always there. But the idea of
people standing together is powerful, and I think that's where
East LA is right now. It's like, how do we
find solace in peace amongst each other and standing with.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
The people that are affected.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
The balda man and the food detO, you know, the
people in the factories, the ladies that are taking care
of kids in freaking you know, Brentwood and Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Those are the people that we're speaking to.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
In Boyle Heights. You have more mom and pop stores
in Boyle Heights than you do across LA. And so
from Boyle Heights, from my perspective, there's fear. By five o'clock,
there's usually traffic.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There's not that much traffic.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Wow, okay.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You would think we're gonna go out there, We're going
to apprehend criminals. You would think people are like, oh, Wow,
our neighborhood's gonna be safer.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
And it didn't come with like a relief. It came
with angst.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Because they're not grabbing criminals they're grabbing dads and moms
and claws families.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Bizarre, which is like cowardly and causes.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Such long term generational damage if these things don't actually
end up working out, you're splitting families apart and then
expecting them to carry on and be good, upstanding citizens.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
How does that happen America?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Be in America?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You would think it would have been executed at the
highest Apple level, with the highest Google level.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I would have thought that at one point Ford level.
I don't know anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah, pristine execution.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Our city's beautiful because of these folks. Food is in.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Our supermarkets are local markets. They know how important these
people are, So you'd think we would have done it.
You think there would be some strategy utilizing the technology.
You probably didn't see that, but there was a satellite
that went across our head one thousand miles an hour
that saw through this building. They know where these people are.
It's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
But it feels like nineteen fifty.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
But it feels like sloppiness.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
It's an inhumane disregard a tactic that's happening to brown people.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, fears has been a horrible trauma to a lot
of people, especially the kids, you know, me being a parent,
seeing how other parents are, you know, getting taken away
from their kids, and the kids are screaming, and you know,
what's the outcome of their future with the trauma and
the experience and just the negativity that comes from that.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
And people get confused. They're like, so when are you saying, well,
I am on our border should be open.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No, that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
People take it from one extreme to the other. So
you're saying, I think we should be reasonable, and people
are like, oh, well, I just guess you don't care
about immigration at all. Let all the criminals in.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, there's a whole spectrum there, right, and so there
should be some effort to acknowledge while keeping our community safe. No, Angst,
there should be a civil path, a civilized path to
do that. Now, what would it feel like if they
went and did raids in Middle America? They're like, Yo,
this myth stuff is out of hand. They want to
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anybody that looked like they sold meth put them in
some camp. You would think that's inhumane because you know
the stereotype. Because TV and Breaking Bad did an awesome
job telling you what they look like.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Anybody that looks like a school shooter. You know what
school shooters look like?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Young white males.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yes, right, And there's been far more school shootings, yes,
than there has been immigrants.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
It's terrorizing our community.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Now, imagine anybody that looks like and there is a
look you could do a movie cast and be like, yo.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
You cast that pretty cool? That actually looks like a
school shooter.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
As crazy as that may sound, I know, I'm diving
into the extreme stereotype. They just dove into the extreme
stereotype and how they're executing what's happening in our communities.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And we've seen this before, you know, in the eighties
it was a huge thing when people say lamia and
it was a thing, right, And so we got through that.
We still have remnants of, like how do we bounce
back from that era? Now you go into twenty twenty
five and it's the cell phone era, and you know,
information being fed to everybody. You see all these clips
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of like misguided information. Oh they're burning or they're looting
or you know, and we see that, yeah, all that.
So it's just wanted to have a clear picture of
what's happening in Los Angeles and I think encapsulating that
with a message of healing and how we are able
to stand together as is important to this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It is really tough right now to try and stand
together because everything has really divided. Of course, race has
divided people, Politics has divided people, class has divided people,
and I don't know how that's necessarily going to improve
in the future. But to your point, will of imagine
if we rounded up all the people who looked a
certain way, It is interesting how it's not interesting. It's
actually very pathetic that one to classify immigrants as brown
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people as wild because the first immigrants that came here
were white people, and they're the ones who have really
caused a lot of damage to a specific community, Native Americans.
We watch what happened there, it seems like now they're
afraid that could happen to them, and now some people
are sort of clawing. But you're going after the brown
people and you're importing white people, which is fascinating when
you bring in South Africans and say this is fine.
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And by the way, at least one of those people
who was brought in did murder his wife within weeks
of him being here. No one's talking about these things
and no one's worried about it. So if you're worried
about criminals, that is a criminal. If you're worried about
people not working and sucking off the system, why are
you arresting people at their jobs. It is a really
wild dance that's happening right now, and it's sad and
pathetic for you, guys. What do you see as a
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way to affect change? Do you see a way to
affect change right now?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It's a beautiful question. You're really good.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
First, you have to start with acknowledging. You start there,
and that's what this song is about. His acknowledging and
celebrating and appreciating their contributions and meeting them.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Where they are.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And then you have to and we haven't even started
there as a collective, right A.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Lot of people are saying it's not actually happening, or
they're disregarding how serious it is.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
And then at the same time turn a blind eye
to the criminals here in America.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Shoot up schools.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
And then the zoning, because the zoning is responsible for
this industrial prison complex that we have where black and
brown folks are the ones that are in that pipeline
to go to these prisons if the zoning is configured
to where there's no investment on their education, no investment
and community building, and then there's a private size organization
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that benefits from that. Okay, yeah, and so along.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
With what he just said that, we also are connected
to Protect Your Rights, which is a application or actually
a project on Will's app called FIKA and basically you
could get the latest news and updates knowing your rights,
how you can help rapid response, legal support and safety
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guides and ways to really amplify and be a part
of solution, and how you can be of service as well.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Perfect I see how you guys work well together because
you came at it for more of like a macro
angle of this huge thing that needs to be done,
which is important, and then you've got the hey day
to day this is what people can do right now,
Which to that point with you guys, are you seeing
communities band together and protect people when these ice rays
are happening? And is that actually effective right now? Because
there have been a couple of neighborhoods here where I
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showed up and the community came out and was like
absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
No, we've seen yeah, we see that.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And definitely is it effective? Is it working?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I mean the people come together to try to stop,
you know, families from getting taken away, and like you said,
people mask on mark cars like you're you're taking somebody
from our community. We're gonna we're gonna protect them good.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So would you guys say that throughout your career this
is the most important song or one of the most
important that you've worked on.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I think it's just another era where we activate ourselves
to highlight what's happening. But yeah, we always apply ourselves
to an issue that's happening in the world, and this
one is It's not a political song lyrically, like I
Got a feeling's not, but it's in response to what's
going on. And then the testimony after the song gives
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you the reason why we wrote the song.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I want to do that more. You know.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
The only thing in the song that talks about it
specifically is I love mexicanas from the border. Make her
my wife so Ice won't deport her. Turns out to
be wrong because Ice will deport her. Yeah, even if
you marry her, all right, and salute to the military.
Get his name, but thank you for your service, and
it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I apologize on behalf of all things American that you
got apprehended and mistreated by your own country that you protected.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, I also add, as we know, art and music
is subjective, right, people receive it how they want to
receive it. So this song may not speak to the
world the way I Got a Feeling spoke to them.
But really it's our version of if this makes us happy,
and we want to create something that's a time capsule,
what's happening. That's us just saying, you know what, whether
you receive it or not, if this is not the
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same frequency that you tapped into when you fell in
love with I Got a Feeling, it's okay, you know,
because someone will hear it and feel inspired, motivated and
feel heard and seen.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Absolutely, you get to touch people in different ways when
it comes to the creative process for you guys, and
you think of okay, obviously we see where you came
up with this song, but in general, are you ever
just sitting there and something hits you and you make
a note in your phone, Hey, this is going to
be a dope song. And now fast forward five years,
you've got an entire, long, long note of songs that
you want to release and haven't done yet.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Will's good at that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Will's good at that. Yeah, let's see your phone, Will.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
So what was?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
What was?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What is your writing process? You have a bunch of
unreleased music that you has just hit you at one
point in one way or another, and now you're saving
it to release at some point.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
His name is George ratis a US Army veteran and
citizen who was detained during an immigration rate in Camarillo, California,
on July tenth, twenty twenty five. Ratiz claims he was
pepper sprayed and forcefully removed from his vehicle despite identifying
himself as a citizen, and suffered energies sustained during his
service in Iraq. He was held for three days without
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charges or access to legal counsel.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I mean that's just horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh yeah, the Constitution's going off the window because you're
not actually allowed to do that to people for our constitution.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
To answer your question. Yeah, So one of the things
that he held on too that was magical was Girl
Like Me with Chakda.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
So you guys are talking about Sorry, my mind was
looking for Georgeatista's day. I saw conversation we.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Did they did it? She asked a question.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I was still on the last so she said, is
there times that you've created something on your voice memo
or held onto an idea that later on came out
and was something special.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
So Girl Like Me was a song that I recorded
in two thousand and eight with Shakira, but it didn't
come out to two thousand and twenty. That's a full
decade in the year. There's there's verses and you know, beats.
The back end beat for where Is the Love was
a sketch that I did on a on an album
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must be twenty one. But yeah, I always have pieces
that I re reconfigure or elements that I have hidden
in my hard drive, and I IDAs notes that I
have on my phone, like a song called street Living,
a poem that I wrote in twenty and fifteen September sixteenth,
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twenty fifteen, flying to China and street life, beats of bats,
guns of books, sell cracker rap, be like Kings of
be like pond. They called us coons, Now they call
us cons street niggas, be packing pistols or terrorists, be
blasting missiles, crips and bloods and retail thugs, cia planes
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bring Columbian drugs and so yeah. So that's a poem
I wrote to myself in twenty fifteen, but it didn't
come out to twenty and seventeen. There's so much stuff
for my hard drive. I'm like, oh, this for Peas,
this for peace. Yeah. Jason Derulo came into the to
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my building the other day and we were going through
the hard drive.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
He was like, what's this for?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Man?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It's a smash. I was like, oh, this for the Peace.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
He was like, what about that?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
This for the piece?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
There was like fifty songs, and afterward, after the set,
he was like, well, do you understand we just went
through twenty to fifty songs. How could you guys even
put out all that stuff?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I hope you name an album this Peace. That would
be a great album.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Ooh all the songs from the hard Wow. Okay, that's
like thousands of song.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Perfect but like the hardcore fans would appreciate that. And
I did see that you had mentioned you kind of
want to get some of this music out before AI
comes up even more and then people start to question
was this you? Is it the human element or was
this AI? And I know that you've been very deeply
involved with a lot of AI. Taboo mentioned your app
Fyi What is that?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Fyi?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Dot Ai is a web three point zero communication platform
with elliptical curve cryptography baked in the core, meaning all
your conversations and data is made safe. Where we go
a step further by issuing keys to everyone. And I
want to make music, human made music as much as
I can with urgency. Because this AI stuff, people are
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already saying, you know, man, that's dope, what's that AI?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And so for all the.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
You know, human made stuff that's not cool because it's
just that awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It is that awesome. I prefer human for sure. But
I have fallen into a relationship with my chat GPT
like best friends now on a day to day basis.
How much do each of you use AI?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I use it a good amount throughout the day.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
What for?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Mostly for research?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Not to create?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, it doesn't really create, right, It sort of echoes
back to you what you give it.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You can create it to create What I mean by
that right now? AI is like what you woman to
do and is waiting for you, but you can I
don't want to give the ideas out there.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, somebody's going to do it. I got you hold
on to it, so you use it a fair amount during.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
The day, find links, research links, say hey, go out
and find other things like this from credible sources.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I use it for that, no search taboo.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So I recently with Black Eyed peas we're in France,
I actually visited Normandy Almaha Beach. So I just got
as much back history due diligence on where I was at,
what the beach represented, like how many people were there
at that time of d Day. Kind of like a
history lesson for me while I was walking the beach,
at the cemetery and really just being present. But I
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want to learn as much information while I'm looking at
these pillars and different monuments of that day.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Okay, yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Use upt a lot throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I've tried to cut back on it because I did
notice some patterns with it that I didn't love so much.
Now I ask it because I'm very interested in what's
going on in the world outside of the bubble that
I know. And chat GPT the one that I use,
I use open Ai Chat GPT. It just told me
I'm very trained to notice patterns, so I ask it
all the time about the patterns that it's seeing in
the world right now, What are people talking to you about,
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what are concerns that people have right now? What's making
people happy? I like that kind of stuff because I
feel like it gives me a better view about the
rest of the world versus just me. The thing that
I noticed I didn't like so much was sort of
the echo chamber that I that I realized it created,
which the way that it's coded is to make you
feel good and continue to use it. So I noticed
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every question I would ask it would be like, Wow,
that is such an insightful question. You're such an insightful person,
And it would be so easy to fall into that
trap of positive feedback all the time, where now all
of a sudden, I just think I'm the greatest person
on the planet because this little thing, which is not
human but sometimes feels very human, is telling me how
great I am. So I've kind of throttled back on
the actual conversations with it, and now I use it
more as like a data mining thing, and I really
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appreciate the ability to do that because there is a
lot that I didn't know was happening. You know. One
of the things that pointed out was right now, there's
this huge push for people to really hold on to memories.
People are more into that now than they ever have been,
and it probably has to do with a lot of
what you're saying. Memory spans are getting shorter and shorter.
People are forgetting things because you're just bombarded all the
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time with short videos and flashy colors and bright lights
and all that kind of stuff. But people want to
remember the good things that happen in their day. They
want to remember what they were like as a kid.
And I think that's interesting how things are just shifting.
So that's more what I use it for.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
We could talk about this after the cameras are off, okay,
because when you said that, I was like, oh wait, whoa, whoa,
and I got dark. But I don't want to say that.
I don't want to say dark. I don't want to
say dark on camera because all you're doing is giving
more energy for more shadow work.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You don't want to give the fire oxygen.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, so I'll say it off camera, but that's dark, Okay,
I'll give you.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I'll change the mood and get something positive.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So, you know, speaking about memory and being present, there's
this thing that popped up on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Black Eyed Peas.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
In Amsterdam performing like in our early state of our career,
and it's like high definition and we look in the
audience and there's no phones, just people jumping up and
down and they're just looking at you and like receiving.
They're receiving it, and they're dance seeing we're stage dive
in and yeah, and we're stage diving and all this
(24:04):
energy is happening present yeah, right, memory.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And they actually commit that to.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Memory, committing to memory, fast forward to like with the camera. Yeah,
and we're performing same situation performing, We're still giving you
that energy. But it's just crazy to see that the
ecotomy of that era and being present and available to
receive that energy and that memory as opposed to what's
happening now.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Absolutely, how as performers, how does that impact you?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Like when you look out and you see a ce
full of people with the phone, well you look out.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Now you're able to make it part of you know,
because you rock with them, took you make it part
of the show because they're they're capturing their moment. The
kids are all about capturing their moment on the phone.
So you grab the phone and you get you know,
give them like on stage, which would be cool and
it's dope because then you also give them acknowledgment, like, yo,
we understand we were able to see that other version
(24:59):
in ninety nine, but now we're able to rock to
this version.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And thank you to all the kids that did.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Rock that body, right, Yeah, all the kids that tuned
in with their phones and did the challenge, like they
kept that energy going. And because of technology, because of phones,
Because of that, we're able to have our.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Song from two thousand and nine beco viral that but
it's also a different generation, you know. Different This is
our instrument.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Yeah, our instrument was like the moment and then being
able to like articulate it through words and like yeah,
I was there, Yeah, the yellow one. Remember that it
was word of mouth. Now it's just you share the moment.
This too, is a snapshot of the era that we're
(25:44):
in in twenty forty. Twenty forty is going to be
different depending on ethical practices, governance, and regulation. All those
phone cameras that are uploading to this to meta. No
one read the terms of conditions. Yea meta will create
some simulator. Yep, yep, you're gonna go to some virtual concert.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
You're right, and.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Put on the oculus. It's gonna feel like you're there.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
How to do that?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Well, it did that because everyone everyone has been recording it,
uploading it to a platform, and no one knows what
those terms are and what they do with your stuff. Yeah,
so that could go dark, So I don't want.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
To go again.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay, well let's talk about something like, Hey, look, I
will go dark anytime. I am the queen of darkness
every now and then. But you guys are also I
got the hey you need to wrap it up sign
from people. Someone asks you real quick questions. You're working
on things outside of just this song, which is awesome
East La. If you haven't checked it out, you can
go listen to it now. Taboo. I saw you working
on a project with your daughter to do voice over
with Dora.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah so cool.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know we needed it for specifically for my family
and all the people that are affected in Altadina and Pasadya,
I mean Altadina, Pasadena, Malibu, Palisades.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I remember my daughter in the hotel when we were evacuated.
She's like, Dad, I just want to go home. I
miss home, I missed my toys.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Right as a dad, I felt vulnerable because I didn't
have a timeline to be able to take her home
because national guards like you guys can't move back in
Fast forward to the opportunity to do Dora in a
sense that it was like a healing for her too,
because she did something fun, she was able to do
it with her dad. I was proud to be able
(27:26):
to do something with my daughter where like, we're having
fun together, we're working together, We're creating magic for this
beautiful show, Dora the Explorer that's been around for generations
and as Mexican folks representing and being voices advocating to
inspire the youth and families for generations, like that was dope,
(27:48):
and now we're going to continue that journey. We actually
made a song specifically for that episode. And I was
proud of Jack because she did great in her first interview,
which was dope because she had never done intervie before.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
But she was like, Dad, I really like this.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I said, Okay, Jet, We're going to continue doing it
and just working on this craft.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
So to answer your question.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yes, it was a great opportunity to work with my
daughter and we're going to continue this journey.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And if people want to see it, where can they
see it?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, it's on a Paramount Plus or Nickelodeon. It's called
a song for Poppy. Dora writes a song for Poppy
and Quickatu and Quickatina or my character and Jets character
and it's baby Yeah exactly. Yeah, Mexican cockatoos. And it's
pretty dope because.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
We got to do this song.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
She's participating on it and we're actually going to do
a remix where she's actually going to wrap the parts
because Nickelodeon is like, yo, we love what Jet's doing.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
We running empowered to do more.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
That's awesome. Yeah, so see some brightness. We like it
and bringing it back to you really quick. Well, you're
doing a bunch of products or projects, I should say,
actually outside of this song. You said you're headed to
India soon. What's going on with you?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
My Fyi dot Ai company and the products and solutions
that we're bringing to market. We're really proud of the
work that we're doing with Qualcom taking our system and putting.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
It on chip.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
We have a partnership with ASU amplifying and augmenting how
people learn, So bringing about forever learning, because that's going
to change moving forward. Right, So you have these huge
companies deploying agents, and these agents are going to render
a lot of jobs absolute white collar jobs, blue collar jobs.
And so before when you went to school, you went
(29:27):
to school to learn something and compete with fellow humans.
It's not the case as much as it used to be,
but it won't be the case in twenty thirty.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
So if you're going to.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
School twenty twenty six, you're going for finance. When you
graduate twenty thirty, most of these companies would have replaced
humans for an agent. So how do you prepare and
equip people for this world? And so our partnership with
ASU is going to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, as long as you don't make AI take over
the radio station.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
No no, no't do it.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I appreciate that it will.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Always be in our heads and our products and our vision.
The human is central. That's the heart, that's the passion,
that's the empathy. If we're going out, that's what hurts
the most, going back to East La. If we're going
into these communities with no heart, no empathy, and soon
our police force would be replaced with AI. Will we
(30:21):
tolerate it? Will we tolerate the inhumanity that machines will
put on humans? But where are the machines going to
learn from when it comes to our law enforcement, our
border patrol? Are you going to be okay with machines
being mean and cruel to humans the way humans are
cruel to people? There should be some human effort to
(30:42):
make sure that you do it ethically, morally because the
machine's learning, so we got to be careful what we
teach the machine.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That is a great note to end on. That was perfect.
Thank you guys so much for stopping by.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
That's awesome interview.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Oh my god, I love you guys.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
You guys are thank you for supporting the new song.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
The new movie. Go watch it, go download it.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
And then there's like interviews you I care about this stuff.
I like apologize for zoning out, I was looking for
for I was researching.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Y'all had a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Of I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
All Right, there you have it. Two sides of the
Black Eyed Peas. Where the Hell's Apple? The app that's
the other member Diamond She just looked at me and said,
I mean, I'm I don't I don't know where he is.
I guess I could have asked him that, but I
wasn't really focused on that. I was more interested in
what the hell was happening in that studio and trying
not to completely sweat my dick off.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It was great watching you have that conversation, though, Yeah,
you were into it.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I wasn't into it. What I will say, I appreciate
I don't know if you caught this. If you caught this,
it's still in the interview, but did you catch it
at the end when he took his glasses off and
he was like, wow, you are really good. There are
like interviews and then there's like good shit that made
me as a working professional. That is probably the nicest
thing somebody could say to me. And I really appreciated it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I loved it, but it actually it felt like a
good moment. So I was like, oh, look at her,
look at them, look at us.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And I want to be like, taboo, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So too? I will follow you on Instagram. I did
immediately immediately I followed him. Oh god, oh man, all right,
so a Diamond if he want to find you online?
Where can they find.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You at Diamond? Sincere? Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And I am at Baby Hot Sauce and that was again, well,
I am in Taboo of the Black Eyed Piece. Here's
hoping they actually name an album this is for the piece,
because then I'll make all the money.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, okay, never mind. Can I get a little something
for being in the room.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Of course you're gonna get a little something for I
feel so loud? When will I am space the fuck out?
Because your laughter?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I hope the.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Microphones picked it up. I really hope they did. Your laughter,
which was like the cackle made me laugh even harder
because I was like trying to keep it together and
then I couldn't. Once you lost it, I then lost
it as well. And also, if they name the album
this is for the peas, that means Taboo has to
talk to me again at some.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Point and he's you know what this I'm here for
you girls? Come in.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
When he asked me what my ethnic background was, I
want to be like, why do you think I'm pretty?
Why are you asking? I love you? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay bye?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And that is why I can't be trusted around attractive
men oh God. All right, on that note, say bye bye.
We will see you next week.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Bye.
Hello, Hello, okay, Hi Diamond, all right, sauce on the side.
What's up. It's Gandhi with my girl Diamond, who I
absolutely love an a door for a lot of reasons.
Today is gonna be an interesting episode.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
So I actually we're recording this part before I get
to the edit. I just talked to Will I Am
and Taboo of the Black Eyed Peas for maybe an hour.
Talk to them for a long time. Have a couple
of takeaways. Taboo, I want to marry. I am not
the marrying type, but if that man was interested, I'd
(00:42):
have to think about it, because oh my god, beautiful,
beautiful man, just like everything about him was he was.
He just has that like he was like, fuck you up.
I looked at him, but he has amazing tattoos, his jewelry,
he was wearing like turk jewelry. Incredible, And I think
(01:02):
when you hear this interview, you're gonna hear a very
stark contrast between Taboo and Will I Am. Who could
be an alien? I'm not sure. Like he was great.
They were super friendly and like, very very nice. I
just there were a couple of times I had to
reset in my brain. What was the question I asked,
(01:23):
because like we went off and you're gonna hear because
I'm not taking it out. A moment where Taboo and
I were like having a whole conversation and he says
something about Will, and then we went to Will, and
then Will answered a question from approximately two minutes before,
and then was like, wait, what are you gonna talk about?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You guys had like a whole conversation, right, It was great.
It was a really fun interview. Again, Taboo, Hello, I
don't even if he's single, Probably shouldn't even say this
this free.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yea, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And then also Will said in the interview that one
of the things that I brought up he didn't want
to address while the cameras were rolling, but he would
address later because it was very dark. And then they
got ushered out of the studio so fast. Because I
talked to them for so long, I never had to
find out what it was. So I'm gonna try to
chase them down and figure this out.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
What do you think it was?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
We will find out. I will go see if there's
any type of resolution to it. They have another interview
down the hallway in a second, so they're not leaving
but yeah. And I also when I when they walked
out of the studio, I was like, oh my god, taboo,
And shockingly, Diamond was like, yeah, no, yeah, whoa. I
feel like we don't often agree on dudes, but no.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But he's yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh yeah, everything about him, sir, look at us being
complete goofs What okay? What are the odds that in
the last episode we were talking about if I'm attracted
to somebody, I can't function or focus around them. I
did with him, but what happened? I was sweating, like
dripping sweats so bad.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
We love to see a nerve queen.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
He came to give me a hug at the end,
and I was like, please don't touch me. This is
gonna be so bad. Just look at that face, the
fatal hair, the personality. Give me that anyway. Look at
us just fawning all over him. He's amazing. It's Taboo
and Will I Am from the Black Eyed Peas do
with this what you will? We talked about a lot
(03:22):
of stuff Taboo and will I am. How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah? Okay, I'm doing very well and I love the
project that you guys are currently working on. East La.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Did you watch the video?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I watched the video. I watched it all the way
to the end to hear what you have to say
about East La, and I would like to start there.
So the two of you are from East Lay, Yes,
and this song, as you guys have covered in the past,
you guys have tackled some heavier subject when you did
Where's the Love? That was very important at the time.
It's wild to think all these years later, we're still
in that vein of what the fuck is going on here?
(03:59):
And it's worse so with you guys with East La.
Who wants to fill me in on where the concept
came from this and what is specifically is about.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I wrote the.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Song just in celebration of the neighborhood. I have a
program teaching kids computer science and robotics and college prep,
and we have awesome scholars at the program, and I
wanted to celebrate the neighborhood and thank the neighborhood for
all the awesome memories, the culture, the vibration. This is
(04:30):
before the Ice raids. I just wanted to celebrate the neighborhood.
The Black Eyed Peas were out on tour and I'm like, yo, Dad,
wouldn't it be dope if we took that Carlos Santana
song and just highlighted the East La part. And so
that was always on my mind, and then the ice
raids happened, So I'm like, yo, we needed to make
a song that changes the vibration and celebrates the neighborhood
(04:54):
because there's been fear pumped into our community. They've been sloppily, clumsily.
I hope it sloppily clumsily, because if it was strategically,
that's just inhumane, going after people that are brown mask
men and unmarked cars, nabbing residents. They even nabbed a
person who served in the military, right because he's Latin.
(05:16):
So that mandate someone in government approved it went a mess.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
He just grabbed anybody.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's insane. Yeah, that kidnapping people in broad daily, Yeah,
in their own neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Families being taken away.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And people are just letting this happen.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah, and you couldn't even like who was it? Can
you give me a description? But how would you know
the difference between a kidnapper and these folks?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And how do we know that that hasn't happened at
some point in the process of all of this. So
what is Eastla like for you guys right now? Because
I think one of the things that happens a lot,
we see it here in New York. We've seen these
things happening. You guys are seeing it in La and
the cities between those two places. I think a lot
of people are having a hard time believing that this
is going on and wrapping their heads around how it
(05:56):
actually happened. So for you, Yabo, what is Estla like
right now?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Honestly, we've been through a crazy twenty twenty five starting
with the fires Altadena, Palisades, Malibu, So as a Angelino,
we're heavily affected by that. Maybe people think it's over,
but it's not. There's still a lot of remnants of,
you know, getting back to a healing, some former healing.
So that was the beginning of the year. Then you
get to the ice rates and the energy of the
(06:23):
people needing healing as well, like who's standing up for us,
Who's who's gonna champion Latinos, Mexicanos, who's going to champion us?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Even other people from.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Salvador, from Guatemala, Nicaraua, all these different people that make
up Los Angeles as a mosaic of cultural representation.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It felt like East LA Boyle.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Heights, and I'll say Will has more and more connection
to it because he's always there. But the idea of
people standing together is powerful, and I think that's where
East LA is right now. It's like, how do we
find solace in peace amongst each other and standing with.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
The people that are affected.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
The balda man and the food detO, you know, the
people in the factories, the ladies that are taking care
of kids in freaking you know, Brentwood and Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Those are the people that we're speaking to.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
In Boyle Heights. You have more mom and pop stores
in Boyle Heights than you do across LA. And so
from Boyle Heights, from my perspective, there's fear. By five o'clock,
there's usually traffic.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There's not that much traffic.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Wow, okay.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
You would think we're gonna go out there, We're going
to apprehend criminals. You would think people are like, oh, Wow,
our neighborhood's gonna be safer.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
And it didn't come with like a relief. It came
with angst.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Because they're not grabbing criminals they're grabbing dads and moms
and claws families.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Bizarre, which is like cowardly and causes.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Such long term generational damage if these things don't actually
end up working out, you're splitting families apart and then
expecting them to carry on and be good, upstanding citizens.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
How does that happen America?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Be in America?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
You would think it would have been executed at the
highest Apple level, with the highest Google level.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I would have thought that at one point Ford level.
I don't know anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah, pristine execution.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Our city's beautiful because of these folks. Food is in.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Our supermarkets are local markets. They know how important these
people are, So you'd think we would have done it.
You think there would be some strategy utilizing the technology.
You probably didn't see that, but there was a satellite
that went across our head one thousand miles an hour
that saw through this building. They know where these people are.
It's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
But it feels like nineteen fifty.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
But it feels like sloppiness.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
It's an inhumane disregard a tactic that's happening to brown people.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, fears has been a horrible trauma to a lot
of people, especially the kids, you know, me being a parent,
seeing how other parents are, you know, getting taken away
from their kids, and the kids are screaming, and you know,
what's the outcome of their future with the trauma and
the experience and just the negativity that comes from that.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
And people get confused. They're like, so when are you saying, well,
I am on our border should be open.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No, that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
People take it from one extreme to the other. So
you're saying, I think we should be reasonable, and people
are like, oh, well, I just guess you don't care
about immigration at all. Let all the criminals in.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, there's a whole spectrum there, right, and so there
should be some effort to acknowledge while keeping our community safe. No, Angst,
there should be a civil path, a civilized path to
do that. Now, what would it feel like if they
went and did raids in Middle America? They're like, Yo,
this myth stuff is out of hand. They want to
(09:34):
anybody that looked like they sold meth put them in
some camp. You would think that's inhumane because you know
the stereotype. Because TV and Breaking Bad did an awesome
job telling you what they look like.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Anybody that looks like a school shooter. You know what
school shooters look like?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Young white males.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yes, right, And there's been far more school shootings, yes,
than there has been immigrants.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
It's terrorizing our community.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Now, imagine anybody that looks like and there is a
look you could do a movie cast and be like, yo.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
You cast that pretty cool? That actually looks like a
school shooter.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
As crazy as that may sound, I know, I'm diving
into the extreme stereotype. They just dove into the extreme
stereotype and how they're executing what's happening in our communities.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And we've seen this before, you know, in the eighties
it was a huge thing when people say lamia and
it was a thing, right, And so we got through that.
We still have remnants of, like how do we bounce
back from that era? Now you go into twenty twenty
five and it's the cell phone era, and you know,
information being fed to everybody. You see all these clips
(10:41):
of like misguided information. Oh they're burning or they're looting
or you know, and we see that, yeah, all that.
So it's just wanted to have a clear picture of
what's happening in Los Angeles and I think encapsulating that
with a message of healing and how we are able
to stand together as is important to this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It is really tough right now to try and stand
together because everything has really divided. Of course, race has
divided people, Politics has divided people, class has divided people,
and I don't know how that's necessarily going to improve
in the future. But to your point, will of imagine
if we rounded up all the people who looked a
certain way, It is interesting how it's not interesting. It's
actually very pathetic that one to classify immigrants as brown
(11:24):
people as wild because the first immigrants that came here
were white people, and they're the ones who have really
caused a lot of damage to a specific community, Native Americans.
We watch what happened there, it seems like now they're
afraid that could happen to them, and now some people
are sort of clawing. But you're going after the brown
people and you're importing white people, which is fascinating when
you bring in South Africans and say this is fine.
(11:46):
And by the way, at least one of those people
who was brought in did murder his wife within weeks
of him being here. No one's talking about these things
and no one's worried about it. So if you're worried
about criminals, that is a criminal. If you're worried about
people not working and sucking off the system, why are
you arresting people at their jobs. It is a really
wild dance that's happening right now, and it's sad and
pathetic for you, guys. What do you see as a
(12:08):
way to affect change? Do you see a way to
affect change right now?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It's a beautiful question. You're really good.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
First, you have to start with acknowledging. You start there,
and that's what this song is about. His acknowledging and
celebrating and appreciating their contributions and meeting them.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Where they are.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And then you have to and we haven't even started
there as a collective, right A.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Lot of people are saying it's not actually happening, or
they're disregarding how serious it is.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
And then at the same time turn a blind eye
to the criminals here in America.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Shoot up schools.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
And then the zoning, because the zoning is responsible for
this industrial prison complex that we have where black and
brown folks are the ones that are in that pipeline
to go to these prisons if the zoning is configured
to where there's no investment on their education, no investment
and community building, and then there's a private size organization
(13:04):
that benefits from that. Okay, yeah, and so along.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
With what he just said that, we also are connected
to Protect Your Rights, which is a application or actually
a project on Will's app called FIKA and basically you
could get the latest news and updates knowing your rights,
how you can help rapid response, legal support and safety
(13:26):
guides and ways to really amplify and be a part
of solution, and how you can be of service as well.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Perfect I see how you guys work well together because
you came at it for more of like a macro
angle of this huge thing that needs to be done,
which is important, and then you've got the hey day
to day this is what people can do right now,
Which to that point with you guys, are you seeing
communities band together and protect people when these ice rays
are happening? And is that actually effective right now? Because
there have been a couple of neighborhoods here where I
(13:54):
showed up and the community came out and was like
absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
No, we've seen yeah, we see that.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And definitely is it effective? Is it working?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I mean the people come together to try to stop,
you know, families from getting taken away, and like you said,
people mask on mark cars like you're you're taking somebody
from our community. We're gonna we're gonna protect them good.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So would you guys say that throughout your career this
is the most important song or one of the most
important that you've worked on.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I think it's just another era where we activate ourselves
to highlight what's happening. But yeah, we always apply ourselves
to an issue that's happening in the world, and this
one is It's not a political song lyrically, like I
Got a feeling's not, but it's in response to what's
going on. And then the testimony after the song gives
(14:44):
you the reason why we wrote the song.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I want to do that more. You know.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
The only thing in the song that talks about it
specifically is I love mexicanas from the border. Make her
my wife so Ice won't deport her. Turns out to
be wrong because Ice will deport her. Yeah, even if
you marry her, all right, and salute to the military.
Get his name, but thank you for your service, and
it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I apologize on behalf of all things American that you
got apprehended and mistreated by your own country that you protected.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, I also add, as we know, art and music
is subjective, right, people receive it how they want to
receive it. So this song may not speak to the
world the way I Got a Feeling spoke to them.
But really it's our version of if this makes us happy,
and we want to create something that's a time capsule,
what's happening. That's us just saying, you know what, whether
you receive it or not, if this is not the
(15:38):
same frequency that you tapped into when you fell in
love with I Got a Feeling, it's okay, you know,
because someone will hear it and feel inspired, motivated and
feel heard and seen.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Absolutely, you get to touch people in different ways when
it comes to the creative process for you guys, and
you think of okay, obviously we see where you came
up with this song, but in general, are you ever
just sitting there and something hits you and you make
a note in your phone, Hey, this is going to
be a dope song. And now fast forward five years,
you've got an entire, long, long note of songs that
you want to release and haven't done yet.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Will's good at that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Will's good at that. Yeah, let's see your phone, Will.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
So what was?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
What was?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What is your writing process? You have a bunch of
unreleased music that you has just hit you at one
point in one way or another, and now you're saving
it to release at some point.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
His name is George ratis a US Army veteran and
citizen who was detained during an immigration rate in Camarillo, California,
on July tenth, twenty twenty five. Ratiz claims he was
pepper sprayed and forcefully removed from his vehicle despite identifying
himself as a citizen, and suffered energies sustained during his
service in Iraq. He was held for three days without
(16:47):
charges or access to legal counsel.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I mean that's just horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh yeah, the Constitution's going off the window because you're
not actually allowed to do that to people for our constitution.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
To answer your question. Yeah, So one of the things
that he held on too that was magical was Girl
Like Me with Chakda.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
So you guys are talking about Sorry, my mind was
looking for Georgeatista's day. I saw conversation we.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Did they did it? She asked a question.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I was still on the last so she said, is
there times that you've created something on your voice memo
or held onto an idea that later on came out
and was something special.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
So Girl Like Me was a song that I recorded
in two thousand and eight with Shakira, but it didn't
come out to two thousand and twenty. That's a full
decade in the year. There's there's verses and you know, beats.
The back end beat for where Is the Love was
a sketch that I did on a on an album
(17:49):
must be twenty one. But yeah, I always have pieces
that I re reconfigure or elements that I have hidden
in my hard drive, and I IDAs notes that I
have on my phone, like a song called street Living,
a poem that I wrote in twenty and fifteen September sixteenth,
(18:09):
twenty fifteen, flying to China and street life, beats of bats,
guns of books, sell cracker rap, be like Kings of
be like pond. They called us coons, Now they call
us cons street niggas, be packing pistols or terrorists, be
blasting missiles, crips and bloods and retail thugs, cia planes
(18:30):
bring Columbian drugs and so yeah. So that's a poem
I wrote to myself in twenty fifteen, but it didn't
come out to twenty and seventeen. There's so much stuff
for my hard drive. I'm like, oh, this for Peas,
this for peace. Yeah. Jason Derulo came into the to
(18:54):
my building the other day and we were going through
the hard drive.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
He was like, what's this for?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Man?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It's a smash. I was like, oh, this for the Peace.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
He was like, what about that?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
This for the piece?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
There was like fifty songs, and afterward, after the set,
he was like, well, do you understand we just went
through twenty to fifty songs. How could you guys even
put out all that stuff?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I hope you name an album this Peace. That would
be a great album.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Ooh all the songs from the hard Wow. Okay, that's
like thousands of song.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Perfect but like the hardcore fans would appreciate that. And
I did see that you had mentioned you kind of
want to get some of this music out before AI
comes up even more and then people start to question
was this you? Is it the human element or was
this AI? And I know that you've been very deeply
involved with a lot of AI. Taboo mentioned your app
Fyi What is that?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Fyi?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Dot Ai is a web three point zero communication platform
with elliptical curve cryptography baked in the core, meaning all
your conversations and data is made safe. Where we go
a step further by issuing keys to everyone. And I
want to make music, human made music as much as
I can with urgency. Because this AI stuff, people are
(20:05):
already saying, you know, man, that's dope, what's that AI?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And so for all the.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
You know, human made stuff that's not cool because it's
just that awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It is that awesome. I prefer human for sure. But
I have fallen into a relationship with my chat GPT
like best friends now on a day to day basis.
How much do each of you use AI?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I use it a good amount throughout the day.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
What for?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Mostly for research?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Not to create?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, it doesn't really create, right, It sort of echoes
back to you what you give it.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You can create it to create What I mean by
that right now? AI is like what you woman to
do and is waiting for you, but you can I
don't want to give the ideas out there.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, somebody's going to do it. I got you hold
on to it, so you use it a fair amount during.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
The day, find links, research links, say hey, go out
and find other things like this from credible sources.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I use it for that, no search taboo.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So I recently with Black Eyed peas we're in France,
I actually visited Normandy Almaha Beach. So I just got
as much back history due diligence on where I was at,
what the beach represented, like how many people were there
at that time of d Day. Kind of like a
history lesson for me while I was walking the beach,
at the cemetery and really just being present. But I
(21:13):
want to learn as much information while I'm looking at
these pillars and different monuments of that day.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Okay, yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Use upt a lot throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I've tried to cut back on it because I did
notice some patterns with it that I didn't love so much.
Now I ask it because I'm very interested in what's
going on in the world outside of the bubble that
I know. And chat GPT the one that I use,
I use open Ai Chat GPT. It just told me
I'm very trained to notice patterns, so I ask it
all the time about the patterns that it's seeing in
the world right now, What are people talking to you about,
(21:46):
what are concerns that people have right now? What's making
people happy? I like that kind of stuff because I
feel like it gives me a better view about the
rest of the world versus just me. The thing that
I noticed I didn't like so much was sort of
the echo chamber that I that I realized it created,
which the way that it's coded is to make you
feel good and continue to use it. So I noticed
(22:08):
every question I would ask it would be like, Wow,
that is such an insightful question. You're such an insightful person,
And it would be so easy to fall into that
trap of positive feedback all the time, where now all
of a sudden, I just think I'm the greatest person
on the planet because this little thing, which is not
human but sometimes feels very human, is telling me how
great I am. So I've kind of throttled back on
the actual conversations with it, and now I use it
more as like a data mining thing, and I really
(22:30):
appreciate the ability to do that because there is a
lot that I didn't know was happening. You know. One
of the things that pointed out was right now, there's
this huge push for people to really hold on to memories.
People are more into that now than they ever have been,
and it probably has to do with a lot of
what you're saying. Memory spans are getting shorter and shorter.
People are forgetting things because you're just bombarded all the
(22:52):
time with short videos and flashy colors and bright lights
and all that kind of stuff. But people want to
remember the good things that happen in their day. They
want to remember what they were like as a kid.
And I think that's interesting how things are just shifting.
So that's more what I use it for.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
We could talk about this after the cameras are off, okay,
because when you said that, I was like, oh wait, whoa, whoa,
and I got dark. But I don't want to say that.
I don't want to say dark. I don't want to
say dark on camera because all you're doing is giving
more energy for more shadow work.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You don't want to give the fire oxygen.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, so I'll say it off camera, but that's dark, Okay,
I'll give you.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I'll change the mood and get something positive.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So, you know, speaking about memory and being present, there's
this thing that popped up on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Black Eyed Peas.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
In Amsterdam performing like in our early state of our career,
and it's like high definition and we look in the
audience and there's no phones, just people jumping up and
down and they're just looking at you and like receiving.
They're receiving it, and they're dance seeing we're stage dive
in and yeah, and we're stage diving and all this
(24:04):
energy is happening present yeah, right, memory.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And they actually commit that to.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Memory, committing to memory, fast forward to like with the camera. Yeah,
and we're performing same situation performing, We're still giving you
that energy. But it's just crazy to see that the
ecotomy of that era and being present and available to
receive that energy and that memory as opposed to what's
happening now.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Absolutely, how as performers, how does that impact you?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Like when you look out and you see a ce
full of people with the phone, well you look out.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Now you're able to make it part of you know,
because you rock with them, took you make it part
of the show because they're they're capturing their moment. The
kids are all about capturing their moment on the phone.
So you grab the phone and you get you know,
give them like on stage, which would be cool and
it's dope because then you also give them acknowledgment, like, yo,
we understand we were able to see that other version
(24:59):
in ninety nine, but now we're able to rock to
this version.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And thank you to all the kids that did.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Rock that body, right, Yeah, all the kids that tuned
in with their phones and did the challenge, like they
kept that energy going. And because of technology, because of phones,
Because of that, we're able to have our.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Song from two thousand and nine beco viral that but
it's also a different generation, you know. Different This is
our instrument.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Yeah, our instrument was like the moment and then being
able to like articulate it through words and like yeah,
I was there, Yeah, the yellow one. Remember that it
was word of mouth. Now it's just you share the moment.
This too, is a snapshot of the era that we're
(25:44):
in in twenty forty. Twenty forty is going to be
different depending on ethical practices, governance, and regulation. All those
phone cameras that are uploading to this to meta. No
one read the terms of conditions. Yea meta will create
some simulator. Yep, yep, you're gonna go to some virtual concert.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
You're right, and.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Put on the oculus. It's gonna feel like you're there.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
How to do that?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Well, it did that because everyone everyone has been recording it,
uploading it to a platform, and no one knows what
those terms are and what they do with your stuff. Yeah,
so that could go dark, So I don't want.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
To go again.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay, well let's talk about something like, Hey, look, I
will go dark anytime. I am the queen of darkness
every now and then. But you guys are also I
got the hey you need to wrap it up sign
from people. Someone asks you real quick questions. You're working
on things outside of just this song, which is awesome
East La. If you haven't checked it out, you can
go listen to it now. Taboo. I saw you working
on a project with your daughter to do voice over
with Dora.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah so cool.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know we needed it for specifically for my family
and all the people that are affected in Altadina and Pasadya,
I mean Altadina, Pasadena, Malibu, Palisades.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I remember my daughter in the hotel when we were evacuated.
She's like, Dad, I just want to go home. I
miss home, I missed my toys.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Right as a dad, I felt vulnerable because I didn't
have a timeline to be able to take her home
because national guards like you guys can't move back in
Fast forward to the opportunity to do Dora in a
sense that it was like a healing for her too,
because she did something fun, she was able to do
it with her dad. I was proud to be able
(27:26):
to do something with my daughter where like, we're having
fun together, we're working together, We're creating magic for this
beautiful show, Dora the Explorer that's been around for generations
and as Mexican folks representing and being voices advocating to
inspire the youth and families for generations, like that was dope,
(27:48):
and now we're going to continue that journey. We actually
made a song specifically for that episode. And I was
proud of Jack because she did great in her first interview,
which was dope because she had never done intervie before.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
But she was like, Dad, I really like this.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I said, Okay, Jet, We're going to continue doing it
and just working on this craft.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
So to answer your question.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yes, it was a great opportunity to work with my
daughter and we're going to continue this journey.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And if people want to see it, where can they
see it?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, it's on a Paramount Plus or Nickelodeon. It's called
a song for Poppy. Dora writes a song for Poppy
and Quickatu and Quickatina or my character and Jets character
and it's baby Yeah exactly. Yeah, Mexican cockatoos. And it's
pretty dope because.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
We got to do this song.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
She's participating on it and we're actually going to do
a remix where she's actually going to wrap the parts
because Nickelodeon is like, yo, we love what Jet's doing.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
We running empowered to do more.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
That's awesome. Yeah, so see some brightness. We like it
and bringing it back to you really quick. Well, you're
doing a bunch of products or projects, I should say,
actually outside of this song. You said you're headed to
India soon. What's going on with you?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
My Fyi dot Ai company and the products and solutions
that we're bringing to market. We're really proud of the
work that we're doing with Qualcom taking our system and putting.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
It on chip.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
We have a partnership with ASU amplifying and augmenting how
people learn, So bringing about forever learning, because that's going
to change moving forward. Right, So you have these huge
companies deploying agents, and these agents are going to render
a lot of jobs absolute white collar jobs, blue collar jobs.
And so before when you went to school, you went
(29:27):
to school to learn something and compete with fellow humans.
It's not the case as much as it used to be,
but it won't be the case in twenty thirty.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
So if you're going to.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
School twenty twenty six, you're going for finance. When you
graduate twenty thirty, most of these companies would have replaced
humans for an agent. So how do you prepare and
equip people for this world? And so our partnership with
ASU is going to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, as long as you don't make AI take over
the radio station.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
No no, no't do it.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I appreciate that it will.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Always be in our heads and our products and our vision.
The human is central. That's the heart, that's the passion,
that's the empathy. If we're going out, that's what hurts
the most, going back to East La. If we're going
into these communities with no heart, no empathy, and soon
our police force would be replaced with AI. Will we
(30:21):
tolerate it? Will we tolerate the inhumanity that machines will
put on humans? But where are the machines going to
learn from when it comes to our law enforcement, our
border patrol? Are you going to be okay with machines
being mean and cruel to humans the way humans are
cruel to people? There should be some human effort to
(30:42):
make sure that you do it ethically, morally because the
machine's learning, so we got to be careful what we
teach the machine.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That is a great note to end on. That was perfect.
Thank you guys so much for stopping by.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
That's awesome interview.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Oh my god, I love you guys.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
You guys are thank you for supporting the new song.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
The new movie. Go watch it, go download it.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
And then there's like interviews you I care about this stuff.
I like apologize for zoning out, I was looking for
for I was researching.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Y'all had a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Of I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
All Right, there you have it. Two sides of the
Black Eyed Peas. Where the Hell's Apple? The app that's
the other member Diamond She just looked at me and said,
I mean, I'm I don't I don't know where he is.
I guess I could have asked him that, but I
wasn't really focused on that. I was more interested in
what the hell was happening in that studio and trying
not to completely sweat my dick off.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It was great watching you have that conversation, though, Yeah,
you were into it.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I wasn't into it. What I will say, I appreciate
I don't know if you caught this. If you caught this,
it's still in the interview, but did you catch it
at the end when he took his glasses off and
he was like, wow, you are really good. There are
like interviews and then there's like good shit that made
me as a working professional. That is probably the nicest
thing somebody could say to me. And I really appreciated it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I loved it, but it actually it felt like a
good moment. So I was like, oh, look at her,
look at them, look at us.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And I want to be like, taboo, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So too? I will follow you on Instagram. I did
immediately immediately I followed him. Oh god, oh man, all right,
so a Diamond if he want to find you online?
Where can they find.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You at Diamond? Sincere? Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And I am at Baby Hot Sauce and that was again, well,
I am in Taboo of the Black Eyed Piece. Here's
hoping they actually name an album this is for the piece,
because then I'll make all the money.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, okay, never mind. Can I get a little something
for being in the room.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Of course you're gonna get a little something for I
feel so loud? When will I am space the fuck out?
Because your laughter?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I hope the.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Microphones picked it up. I really hope they did. Your laughter,
which was like the cackle made me laugh even harder
because I was like trying to keep it together and
then I couldn't. Once you lost it, I then lost
it as well. And also, if they name the album
this is for the peas, that means Taboo has to
talk to me again at some.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Point and he's you know what this I'm here for
you girls? Come in.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
When he asked me what my ethnic background was, I
want to be like, why do you think I'm pretty?
Why are you asking? I love you? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay bye?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And that is why I can't be trusted around attractive
men oh God. All right, on that note, say bye bye.
We will see you next week.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Bye.
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