April 10, 2024 • 37 mins
In episode 11, Gandhi continues the conversation with Ben Bowlin & Noel Brown, the guys behind the "Stuff They Don't Want you to Know" podcast to talk about body brokers, cryptids, JFK, and SO MUCH MORE!! In this week's entry of the Burn Book, Andrew lodges a complaint that isn't received.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right it it's episode eleven of Sauce on the Side.
What's up. I'm Gandhi. I realized in the last episode
I didn't introduce myself for you. We just kind of
like rolled with it. Hello, Andrew, Hi God, here we go.
Oh we're not burning anyone just yet.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The better producers here. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh listen, both of your asses left me alone on
my last interview.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Sorry, this mic is a little too floppy.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It is a little a little wilted there. But we're
just starting this episode off, and I said, I realized
in the last one that I didn't ever introduce myself
or Diamond. So hi, I'm Gandhi, and now I have
both of my producers who I love so much, Andrew
and Diamond in here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
What's it?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hi, hey, cool?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh my god. I love that. You're just whipping that
mic back and forth like it doesn't make a sound
when you do it.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You see that? Sorry, it's called radio, Andrew, learn about it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Actually it's called podcasting.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Learn about Are we using radio equipment?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
This is technically could be both. It's a microphone and
oh wait.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh wait, you have a whole podcasting company don't you.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You should learn about how the equipment were.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Josh takes it all out and post and I'm sure
he will here.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
No, he can't because when you're talking and you move
a microphone around, you can't take that out and post
you turn.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, fixed it. He could fix It's a magician.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So anyway, we had I had such a good time
talking to Ben and Noel from the Stuff They Don't
Want You to Know podcasts that it had to turn
into two episodes because we just kept going and going
and yeah, I think we should just get to it
because here comes the rest of that episode, part two.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
So we're talking about body brokers, right and blood broke.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
So there is a there's a thing called the I
guess we here in the West we call it the
red market for organ donation because you can't you can't
make organs yet at scale in a way that will
work for people.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Those lists of being getting a legit donor are very long,
very hard to get into unless you know there are people.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Okay, and so there are as you, as you're probably aware,
we did some work on this crazy phenomenon where in
some a body broker and organ broker will go into
a rural environment somewhere in the world and they'll find
a community, often a grarian community that really needs money
(02:29):
or they're struggling.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
With a distressed community exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
And then they will offer them a real, what is
a life changing amount of money for them. And so
you can go into these villages where people have had
where you know, thirty percent or something of the population
has sold a kidney and then that kidney goes and
it gets a tremendous markup and has sold somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So you're saying there are people that go into underserved,
underprivileged areas and just say, hey, you got a kidney
for me, and these people say, yeah, take my kidney.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yes, And this is off books, right, this is black
market stuff we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, And because it's a global phenomenon, it's tough to
as dumb as it sounds, the bureaucracy but devils. It's like,
which country's laws apply, Right, that's a good point. Where
is it legal to say, yeah, man, I'll just kid you.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
You know, I.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Need a kidney. I've got fifteen hundred hot ones right now, right,
I don't know why I'm calling dollars hot.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Hot you met hot kids, that would makes way more sense.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, because you want to deal in bulk, right, I
see if you can get a price break. But it's
it's frightening. And then it ties into what we will
euphemistically call non consensual donations right.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
About to say even I saw that movie.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yes, oh man.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Also, if we say we donate our bodies to science, right,
we don't.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, you can say like I would like it for good,
you know, yeah, but you might end up being like
in the early days of car crash testing, they used courses.
You could be one of those.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You don't know, you could be one of those body farms, yeah,
which I'd be cool.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
There were one crazy one where like a dude in
San Francisco had some medical influence or whatever. He got
a body and basically dissected it in front of a
paying crowd like stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Like it's more like the traveling Bodies exhibitions.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
That's those Chinese yea even weak or too or there
were some.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Like yeah, now I feel like it sounds like we're
coming from China, but we're not really not. We're really not.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Hey, if people are doing stuff, they're doing it is
what it is. And I'm sure that we're doing plenty
here in the United States.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
No, Yeah, we're like South Park. We're equal opportunity offenders.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
There we go. Yeah, and it's and it's that kind
of stuff is scary, and it is not maybe as
fun or whimsical as the thought experiments of the pair
normal and alien exploration, but it's important and we try
to give or we we endeavor to give a mix
(05:09):
of things. So it's not always the very depressing Holy shit,
this is true, and it's not always, uh, the very
fun like interview with the guy who one believes not
only is Bigfoot reel, but that he is communicated with this.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Creature, like David Bakars are you talking.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
About Yeah, it's very nice guy.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
He has big Foot. Yeah, you see him in Blue Ridge, Georgia,
And it's really dude. It is on the level of
like Hall of Presidents Disney kind of exhibitions sort of
like stuff, and it is so cool. He's got this
like golf cart that he built that has like sonar,
dish and all of these things for catching the.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Bill Field investigations. He's got a he's got a.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Cruise animatronic Bigfoot that's the kind of talk and sing
and do all kinds of.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Does you have a life partner?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
He does, Okay, he does, he is. Yeah, it's a
real it's a part of their marriage. And and this
guy what you find when you communicate with people of
this nature who have a certitude. He's very open to questions,
you know, like us. So he there's nothing you could
ask that would really offend him. We're saying one of
the big things about biology and zoology and cryptozoology is
(06:24):
where's the poop? Right, That's how you know what creature
is real? And he rolled with He was like, you know,
that's a great question. We thought about that a lot.
And then the explanation he.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Called scat in the.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Space sat Yeah, in the space call in a lot
of space. But he I think that is something that
we can it's a lesson we can take to apply
to all kinds of discourse. So like when you are
being accused of being contrarian or something, that's a person
who feels incapable of actually exploring your questquestion with you, right, which.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I have no time for in my regular life. If
I'm talking to someone who's got their mind made up
and they're not willing to have a discourse or a conversation,
or they're not open to questions. It's kind of a
useless situation. I'm just sort of like not interested, you know. Yeah,
And I'm not trying to be a jerk, but like,
if someone's not willing to think about where their opinions
come from and why they think what they think are
they're not open to being asked questions, then they're probably
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not someone I want to hang out with a bunch,
you know, And we ask questions in respectful ways. We
don't do gotcha moments. We're just curious and we're asking questions.
So if someone is immediately going to shut that down,
then we're like, why are you even here? Man? You know,
like this isn't worth any of our time.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But in defense of those folks who do react that
way for one reason or another, I imagine we can
be a bit annoyed at times because we came from
a We came from a place called when we started
all this weird podcastry, we came from a place called
how Stuff Works, which is all about you know, how
does a microphone work? Figured out coffee? And you know,
(08:01):
if you're in the crowd, today and you did that,
Thank you. But the like the the idea of just
continually playing that game that kids play, which is, you know,
the why game?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I do that?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah? Like okay, So for anybody who doesn't know what's
the why game?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Anything you do, a kid asks why, and even when
you give them the answer, the answer to that from them.
Why why are you wearing that hat?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Because I like it? Why because it matches my suit?
Why because my suit is great? Why but I do
the same thing?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, I want to know.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I propose Ben though, that we have a new catchphrase.
It's where's the poop?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I like it, Where's the poop?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It's literally about ask the ask question.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So I know that we've we've been talking for a while.
By the way, I think this might have to be
two episodes.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I've lost track system to light talking to you.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh yeah, same guys. By the way, I'm really glad
that you're here with Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown. Of
the stuff they don't want you to know, podcasts and
other podcasts and all kinds of stuff. But one of
the things that you guys mentioned earlier was of this
stuff gets so dark and heavy, and you know, okay,
let's move past it and blah blah blah. And I
get that. And it is dark and it is heavy,
but all change at some point comes from places that
(09:09):
are really dark and heavy. And I know that it
seems for a lot of people who are listening to
this maybe you don't want to hear about that stuff.
But as long as there's a call to action and
you can start doing something about it, it's not so dark, right,
And I think the first part in doing any of
that is talking about it, discovery and disseminating the information
to other people. So even though it might feel dark,
I think you guys are still doing some really great stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Thank you so much for that. Yeah, because that's we
want to empower people, right, But that's part of the
idea of asking a questions and saying, well, no, you've
heard from us, tell us what you think, and we do.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
An episode a week that is entirely crowdsourced. For lack
of a better term, we have a listener mail episode
and some of our best ideas for episodes come from listeners.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Some of your worst come from men too.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Well, sure, we don't usually make those in episodes.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
There are people with very specific takes they're very passionate
about somewhat the blood.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
The blood thing. We didn't really know about this Arkansas
blood thing. We had a listener write in and tell
us about it, and then it led to a whole
series of Bad Blood episodes.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I just love I love this point about empowerment, you know,
about being able to make some sort of change, whether
that comes from, as you said, like the spreading of
awareness or the Hey, do you also think this thing
is fucked up? Well, then here is a group, here
is an institution, here's a community, here's something happening, and
(10:37):
to all too often, for various reasons, it seems like
we live in a bad news world that maybe paints
an unrealistic picture of the world. Yeah, there are serious,
real problems, there are real conspiracies. But guess what, we're
also in the story. We are characters in the story.
(10:57):
We can affect the plot.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Honestly, it's the way we all are there for each
other and are able to talk about this stuff and
bounce it off each other and interface with our listeners
that make us feel like there's hope and that it's
not all doom and gloom, and we are always looking
for some positive spin or some positive angle not to
fool ourselves, but just to like not be scared, to
be alive, you know. I mean, it's just so easy
(11:22):
to let yourself be fall into that kind of hopelessness
and despair. And it's having friends that are like minded
and the know how to ask the right questions and
to have each other's backs. And then we feel like
the listeners are an extension of that, and I think
they feel that we are. So it's just really kind
of beautiful, sir. I'm getting like emotional about it. There
is a circle of trust and kindness when it's done right,
(11:43):
and I think we know we try our best to always.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Do it right. I didn't know if we get to it.
But before we end, there is a game that we
like to play. We would usually if you were on
our show. Now, this is a game that we would
play if you're if you're game for the game.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Always game for a game.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Okay, all right, So this is our conspiracy yes or
no kind of thing. Okay, So we're going to ask
you about some of the most prominent, like popular conspiracy
theories and we want to hear from you, Gandhi on
a yes or no. Okay, all right, Well, you want
to start us off.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We did aliens, We did do aliens, we did big Well,
I don't know what do you where?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Where do you fall on on? Yes, he's abominable snowmen,
you know, big foot type creatures. Maybe we can just
let's just broaden it to cryptis, to undiscovered creatures, yes, yes?
Or no?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Any big ones left?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yes you think?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Okay, yeah, I mean if they're undiscovered, I don't know
they're discovered. Of course they're out there somewhere, they haven't
been discovered.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I'm a yes on the yes on the big cryptids.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yes, I wish I could high five.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Okay, then let's do one. Okay, most popular. Did people
land on the moon?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Okay, another high five?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Not a chance faked.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Kubrick did fake the moon landing, but due to budgetary constraints,
it was actually cheaper to there.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, yeah, fake it all the moon?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah, because of catering. So uh JFK conspiracies. Do you
think any of those?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yes? Wow? Okay, See this is one that's a careful
high five we should talk about. This is a good
one because there was some new information that came out
relatively recently where this one of the secret Service agents
that just came out with a book, which is when
these things come out. There was an additional bullet that
he found and he it was lodged in the seat
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of the of the limousine and he didn't tell anybody
about it.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Why he didn't know what to do. He put it on.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
JFK's gurney, just laid it there. The magic bullet theory,
the idea of how could this bullet have gone? Explain
this helped explain that there was an additional bullet if
you believe him. If you believe him, and there are
some people that do call his story the question and
find that a little suspicious waiting so long.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I read the book and he.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Said he was so traumatized by it that he didn't
follow any of that.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
He just created one of the biggest questions of all
time and.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Only decided to come out with it when he's doing
his book.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Right, Okay, Yeah, so there are.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
True to me though, I think I think he's probably
is telling the truth.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
I we talked. There's a show that came out on
the Network called Who Killed JFK? With Rob Reiner and
Solid Dad O'Brien and.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
We had Rob Reiner on the podcast how he was
actually getting spinal tap the movie.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
He was going to hang out with his war but
he had to go work on woral taps thet shooting
right now. But so, okay, so why do you find
the official narrative?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So my parents lived in Dallas for a while. Oh wow, Okay,
and my dad one of his favorite places to go,
just honestly, over and over was Dally Square Plaza. The people,
and I will say this, there might not be credibility
to it, but there are people in that area who
just spend their lives trying to tell you, Hey, just
so you know, this isn't how it went. Here's this
film that I have, here's proof that it happened. And
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all I'm saying is I don't know. So I'm not
going to commit to one way or another. I will
leave my mind open to the fact that I don't
typically believe what the government sells us. Okay, just in general,
all of the things with like Lee Harvey Oswald being
a terrible shot and then all of a sudden, he's
this amazing shooter from a very obscure point of view,
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being able to do this and then he gets killed
before he ever really has a chance to give his
side of how things happen. I mean to me, that's
just you know, that's enough for me to question.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And then the guy who kills him also gets killed.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It's enough for me to question. So because of that,
I will say I'll buy it.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
What do we say? Last night we were having a
bit of a night walk with our buddy Payton.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Last night was a night walk. You guys got a joint.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
There was some of that, some drinking and around New York.
New York's a good drinking city because you can you
can walk just around and find entertaining things and not
ever have to worry about, you know, driving and talks.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Case every every city we go to. Uh, this is
something that's known on our show, every city we go to.
I am a huge proponent of walking. I hate the sun.
So night walks are I resent.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You are a vampire.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
It insists upon itself.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
So we were walking around there, we're walking a night walk,
and there was I was I was smoking to join
those guys didn't particular, but I think I said something
to the effect of, you know, guys, the government's basically
just like legitimized organized crime, you.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Know, and they are the biggest organized crime organizations.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I'm just saying being a little more organized then, okay.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
But the fact is that we know this corruption is
part of the legacy of government back to its early
earliest forms, and it's a way of like protecting yourself
and covering your button, taking care of your buddies. And
you make the law, therefore you can skirt it.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, And then here comes JFK with all of these
ideas to get in the way of that and change
things and go against the grain and do things that
people did not support. And then oh, he's snuffed out.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
And he's messing with the money.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I again, it's enough for me to just question and
not buy what they're trying to sell me.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I'm so bad, I remembering titles of things that have
numbers in it. But that's Stephen king book, The Alternate
Reality about JFK's assassination. There's a TV series version of
it with James Franco, and it's very very good.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
With all the stuff that you guys are diving into,
and a lot of it has to do with government.
Do people ever reach out to you from governmental agencies
or somewhere that say, hey, calm it downfellas, no, no
it down.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
People that are like I did work for the DoD
or I did work for whatever agency. Here, here's my
inside scoop perspective. Please don't use my name.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
That's about yeah. And over the years, I think the
most chilling letters were the very polite ones, the ones
where they just sort of let you like, can I
touch it? They just sort of let you know, hey, hey, jump,
I saw your show, and uh and something, and those
those letters. You know, in some cases it can be
(18:26):
difficult to prove the authenticity of that kind of thing,
but we would get, you know, we get pretty collegiate stuff.
We haven't ever had someone specifically shut us down for
something that's more confessional.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
From the company side of things. No, huge credit to
iHeart by the way, they don't interve interfere with anything
we've ever done.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, they just care about the money.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
There even been times where we've you know, had to
say some maybe difficult to hear things about some potential sponsors,
you know, And it's not like someone gets ping in
their inboxes like hey, the conspiracy guys are up to
no good. We better shut them down.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yes, they don't get we got a Okay, here's probably
my favorite example. We did a series on the history
of assassinations, or targeted killings as they're called euphemistically. That's
not even a euphemism in a less cool way. It's
(19:26):
a polite way. It's like it's like, hey, don't worry
though we were aiming, but the yeah, so it's like
the ancient history of where assassin comes from, all the
way to the fact that any world government that is
capable of doing this, that feels it as appropriate, will
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do it because assassination works. And we received a letter
from a person who has been involved in these situations
does have not and I vetted him and he's assassin
or in the assassity quiet Pills assassin adjacent. Okay, yeah, no,
that's different. Okay, Lake City Quiet Pills is a great example.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't think I remember this.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
But the he he actually it wasn't fan mail, but
it was just like a nice, well thought out response,
and he said, yes, you guys are largely correct. These
things do work, but one thing you missed is that
sometimes you have to do it. And that was he
wasn't you know, lecturing talking down. It is just like, hey,
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here's an inside perspective, at which point I thought, this
is fucking crazy, but let's keep doing our little podcast.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I also would argue, I think we understand that, and
I don't know. I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm pro
or anti assassination, but we know that it was probably
good idea to assassinate a sam you know, a circumstances.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
It's a hot take, but I don't think he was
a great guy.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Not a great guy. So you know, one one person
terrorists is another person's freedom fighter, depending on what side
of the aisle you fall. So we know we assassinate people,
but we only assassinate the bad guys. I think that's
where the thing gets gets sticky.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, that guys to whom?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah, and that guy was to be clear who wrote
who wrote to us? You could argue maybe he was
trying to rationalize some things to himself. Possibly but dress.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I was encrypted or it was through one of those like.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That would make me think twice, Yeah, yeah, how like
I don't know how much can I touch it?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I want to do with that guy. But but conspiracies
are you know, they come like folklore. They often come
from some grain of truth, and they're very popular in
the United States. It's one of the most popular forms
of folklore in this country. Because our country was founded
as a result of a conspiracy against well, I'm doing
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a pivot against the United Kingdom, which is still you know,
a treasure trove of conspiracies, because the concept of monarchy,
if you had to explain it to an alien, is really.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Straight welfare case on the planet that we were talking about,
So it has no actually they have no power run.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
The real estate.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Are there other Hollywood pop culture conspiracies that you guys
are really into.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Uh, there there are, Yeah, there are quite a few.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
The one we did recently about just the studio system
in the early the Golden era.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Way to hire private detectives to like, you know, get
dirt on their competition.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
And because the student the studios got close to being
their own regional power, you know. And there was so
we know a lot of ugly hidden history of Hollywood
in terms of pop culture in the modern day. I
will make a prediction, uh here, and this is going
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to develop pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's already prediction.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Okay, there's going to be even more public interest in
some really nasty cover ups on Nickelodeon side.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh for sure that now, Yeah, it's going to just.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Get bigger, I think so. And it's because of the uh,
it's because of the horrific predatory actions of.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Really bad stuff, I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Absolutely with children.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And then I had that I had that dumb, like
stoner moment. I was researching stuff about.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
This involve joints, but I was I like, had.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
That moment where I can't remember there was a TV
on randomly in the background. I'm reading about this stuff.
It's like weird rerunting and I turn around and I
realized the Nickelodeon logo is afoot. It was like the
moment in you know, Usual Suspects where you're like, oh,
that was Kaiser so, and I thought it was here
(24:06):
the whole time. And I know it's very again, it's
a disturbing thing, but I'd love you guys opinion on it.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I mean, you know, it's crazy to remember. We I
think within the kind of this conversation, we talked about
a lot of the weird grooming that took place with
young stars in terrible nineties. There was a club for
kids called the Soda Pop club. It was basically a
non alcoholic nightclub for like probably, I mean, that's the
exactly the location. Like Corey Feldman, Corey came. You know,
(24:35):
Corey Feldman has a lot of accusations about being molested
by high level executives, you know, And yeah, I think
that's just a continuations. What he's talking about is the
continuation of.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
That a real conspiracy affecting everybody in your grocery stores
or markets today. Shrink Flation is real. I sound like
an old man shaking my fist at the sky. Like
col Co Cola used to be twelve ounce bottle, used.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
To groups of raisins in my brand. I know.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I wish Scotty was here. Scotty's our producer who's typically
in that room.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
He is.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
He loves grocery stores. He's obsessed with them. He has
a podcast about cereal. You see all that serious stuff
in there. He is on one about shrink flation. He's like,
it used to be a six ounce box. Now it's
a two ounce box.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
It's the same prime, it's smaller in the box. It's
it's more.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
We got to hang out with this. I like his vibe.
Let's hang out with it around them well saw and.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Oh my god, this is awesome. Guys. I know I
could keep you here forever, so good thing.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
We didn't schedule anything else for today.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, guys, if you're ever back in town, because I
had a whole list of things and I wanted to
ask you about and I didn't even get to like
of them. So next time you're in town, I would
love for you to come back and we could do
another episode.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for hanging out
with us.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Thank you for coming in. This has been so fun.
And I wish we were all smoking a joint because
it would just keep going.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, you're right, this conversation continues, we're going to have
to pick it up.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Well, guys, thank you so much. It's been awesome. If
people want to listen to your podcast about all of
these amazing things, how can they find you.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You can find us wherever you find your favorite shows.
We are stuff they don't want you to know. You
can see us. Let's see Apple all this other stuff
we got the social media. Oh we had a video,
well yeah, yeah, we do it off air.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
We'll do it off air, but we have this YouTube
channel where we post new video content every week. We've
got a really great team we work with and make
some fun kind of sketchy videos, sketchy sketchy comics, and
that is a conspiracy stuff and we are a conspiracy
stuff show on Instagram and TikTok. Ben and I also
do a show together called Ridiculous History that you can
(26:45):
also find anywhere you get podcasts, and we do two
of those a week, and we did five pieces of
stuff that I want to know content every week, and
then we.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Have we have a book called in a Burst of
Creativity stuff they don't want you to know, the.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Book, the movie, the experience.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Okay, lots of rooms awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
And if they want to find you on Instagram, I
know you just dropped the podcast info. Do you like
people to follow you personally?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, how can they find you?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You can find me at how now, Noel Brown, I'm
pretty exclusively on Instagram. Ben's all over the place.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
In another stunning burst of creativity, I am at Ben
Bullen on Instagram. Bow l, I n you can find
me on X somehow And that's I think right now.
Instagram is probably the main one. I'm on the cusp
of TikTok, but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Sure yeah, I'm not there yet either. I watched stuff.
I don't post anything.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I'm too old.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
All right, guys, it's been awesome and I hope that
you come back again. This has been great. Thank you, Andrew.
I have to say I wish you would have been
in there for some of the stuff when we were
talking about blood and body donation, because that's right their alley.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Oh yeah, for sure, that is. I gotta move the mic.
Sorry again. Yeah, I one hundred percent am interested in that.
The Yeah, it's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
There's a whole part that we actually had to cut out.
Did we already talk about this? I don't think we did,
so we you know, I record a lot of these
earlier than they are actually played for lots of reasons.
But when I recorded with Ben and Knowle, Diamond was
in there and one of the things that they were
talking about, they talked about two things that I cut out.
(28:30):
They talked about Kate Middleton, where Diamond, by the way,
clearly predicted exactly what happened. She said, I think there's
something tragically wrong. I think she's sick. Yes she did,
and that is what ended up happening. And then we
were all speculating about Diddy. Is he going to get
in trouble? Is anything gonna happen? Oh my gosh, I
wonder if if the cops are ever going to approach
(28:52):
him about all the things. And then bam, bam it happened.
So that was cut out a little behind the scenes
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I love those.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah. So now we have two things we need to Yeah,
talk it to a microphone, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't want to move her out of the way.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
My god. Anyway, So we have two things we have
to do. An entry of the burn book, which you're
going to submit today. Yeah, and then we'll do and
ask me anything. Okay, So who are you trying to burn?
What's making you mad? Andrew?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay? I think what bothers me is I offered to
buy you? Oh god, Josh, here we go and don't
oh my gosh, me just because you're getting burned?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And Diamond all breakfast this morning?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
This was after you were left out of the breakfast order.
I felt bad, so I offered to buy you breakfast
instead of just saying thank you. I originally got ah,
thank you, and then it was what nefarious actions are
you hiding? Why when did it become like what wounded
birds are you that you can't just take a simple
gesture and say thank you and move on. Why does
it have to become a thing. Why is it manipulative
(29:57):
to try and buy you breakfast? I made a mistake.
I'm offering to buy you breakfast. Just say thank you
and move on.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm glad you brought that up. That's a great question, Andrew,
thank you for asking. No. No, you just asked. See
what happens when you burn people who are sitting right
next to you, is they have a chance to re butt?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
But I don't need the butt because I gave you
ask what it is? No, No, there are no questions.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You literally just started sentences with sentences which.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Josh, take it out.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You know I edit these.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Right, Gandhi take it out.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Out anyway if you miss what happened. There was a
day where I texted Andrew and I said, people want breakfast,
and they were in crazy moods, and everybody wanted breakfast
now now now, so Andrew sent out the order and
then I shamefully went to pee and get myself some water.
And as I was doing that, everybody placed their orders
and the order was sent. Diamond didn't get in, I
(30:53):
didn't get in, Josh didn't get in. We were all
left out of the breakfast order. So this is where
it all came from. Then Andrews said, I'll buy you
guys breakfast. But this is what happened. You were very
sheepish and sad about it, and no one wants to
take advantage of that, which you know, which is one
of your manipulation tactics, and you get all sad and cue.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Here we go sad and cue like.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh, I'm so Sally, I can listen to that.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yes, so it's bad. So what would you rather me
have done? Just said, f you, I don't want to
get you breakfast. I felt bad. I wanted to offer
to get breakfast. The only thing that's crazy here is
how everyone's acting. I don't know what mob dramas you're
all watching that. We got to be on high alert.
But let's pipe it down, let's calm it down. Let's
just regroup and when somebody offers, just say oh, thank
(31:41):
you or no thank you, just.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Saying the bass in your voice that you have right
now you did not have this morning. I apologized very meekly,
like oh, I'm so sorry. Guys, I love you so much.
I'll buy you a breakfast. We're all like, no, that's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
So you're saying no because of what you inferred? Was
the tone of my voice there was that You took
that as oh he's acting sheepish. Oh that means I
have to I'm now feeling bad.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, Diamond, you're making something.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You were making a mountain out of a molehill.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Did I infer that tone or was the tone there?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I don't understand why we're even okay here, I don't
understand why we're even giving this man any mic time.
Let's just move on. You think you're burning us, but
you're really getting burned. So now Andrew, for the what
second time is being burned?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And so our Gandhi, Josh and Diamond, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
What, Just for that, I feel like we should let
your burn stand. You're right, we got burned. You did
not get burned. Okay, Diamond, let's get to the ask
me anything. I'm ready for this one here.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Oh no, he can't take he can't take the heat.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So he's getting out the kitchen in here. Bye, we're
gonna miss this sound.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Okay. This question is from Victoria McLachlan's seventeen Did you
meet Brandon?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Okay, Well, I'm at Brandon when I was in sixth
grade and he lived in my neighborhood. He lived in
the back of the neighborhood. I lived in the front
of the neighborhood, and we rode the bus together. Of course,
he's much older than me. However, I just like to
say that because it stresses about But on the bus
(33:26):
he was mean as fuck, and we used to fight
with each other all the time and pick on each
other all the time. And I will say it was
mutual combat. But we definitely weren't buddies. I mean, we
had the same friends. Obviously we lived in the same neighborhood.
He does not believe me when I say that. Well,
now fast forward to how we actually started dating. He
(33:47):
worked with a car company that does some really cool stuff.
They build like prototype vehicles that you see in auto
shows and in movies, and then he would travel with
these vehicles and show people what they were about and
how to use them whatever. So he came to New
York City for the audio show and posted a picture
outside the World Trade Center which is a few blocks
from where our old building used to be. And I
saw it and I thought it was cute, and I
(34:09):
was like, oh, really, like, you're right down the street
and you can't even say hi. We had kind of
kept in touch a little bit, you know, like throughout
the years, and he was like, Yeah, I'm in town.
Why don't you show me You're on the city And
I was headed to Singapore, but the timing worked out
where he was coming back to town when I came back,
so we went and hung out and we have been
dating ever since. That's so cute, ah, isn't it. And
(34:32):
it was just a couple of weeks after a guy
that I had been dating very casually went off to
the Air Force and Brandon was kind of weird about it,
and he made me tell him that I was seeing
somebody new because he said, Brandon is a military vet,
and he said, there's a very good chance that this
(34:52):
person thinks that you guys might still have something going on,
and I don't want to be He calls him Jody.
I guess Jody is a nickname for or the guy
that steals your girl when you're deployed. And he was
like I'm not gonna be a Jodie to somebody else,
so you have to talk to this person. And he
made me have a very weird conversation because that person
was like, yeah, I okay, cool.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So you wrote the Dear John letter.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah it was. It ended up being a text message, yeah,
a long one, and I was like, so, I just
wanted you to know. And I'm pretty sure that that
guy to this day thinks that I was talking to
both of them at the same time, because it was
pretty close. But in my head, I had been done
with that because we knew that he was going away.
He was going to the Air Force, so I didn't
think that it was like a conversation that needed to
(35:36):
be had. But anyway, Brandon made me have it, and.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Here we are.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You're a terrible human beings.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Shut the hell up. Shut the hell up. But funny
about that, well, I think it's funny. It was National
Diary Day one day here and my mom had just
given me my diary from seventh grade. So this war
clearly was extended because the page that I opened it
up and flipped to was me talking shit about Brandon,
(36:03):
going off about him, how he was evil, how he
was mean. I said some mean stuff to him and
seventh grade me not much different than me. Now, oh god,
it's very pathetic, very pathetic. Brandon.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm so sorry that you had to deal with this
when you were younger, and the fact that you have
to deal with this now.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Once again, I say, shut the hell up. And that's that.
So I think we have to wrap it up now.
That was great. The guys from the Stuff they Don't
want you to know podcasts Ben Bowleen Noel Brown, they're amazing.
Go listen to their podcast too. You can follow them
on Instagram. Diamond I love you answer, thank god he left. Yeah,
that guy's trouble. People want to find you on Instagram?
(36:40):
How do they do it?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
At Diamond Sincere and on Twitter? Twitter at Diamond Sincere
with an underscore.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, she won't give up ack. She loves it over there.
It's drama filled it And if you want to follow
me at Baby Hot Sauce for now, that may be changing.
And yeah, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Let me lat say bye bye.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Six six
All right it it's episode eleven of Sauce on the Side.
What's up. I'm Gandhi. I realized in the last episode
I didn't introduce myself for you. We just kind of
like rolled with it. Hello, Andrew, Hi God, here we go.
Oh we're not burning anyone just yet.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The better producers here. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh listen, both of your asses left me alone on
my last interview.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Sorry, this mic is a little too floppy.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It is a little a little wilted there. But we're
just starting this episode off, and I said, I realized
in the last one that I didn't ever introduce myself
or Diamond. So hi, I'm Gandhi, and now I have
both of my producers who I love so much, Andrew
and Diamond in here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
What's it?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hi, hey, cool?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh my god. I love that. You're just whipping that
mic back and forth like it doesn't make a sound
when you do it.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You see that? Sorry, it's called radio, Andrew, learn about it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Actually it's called podcasting.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Learn about Are we using radio equipment?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
This is technically could be both. It's a microphone and
oh wait.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh wait, you have a whole podcasting company don't you.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You should learn about how the equipment were.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Josh takes it all out and post and I'm sure
he will here.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
No, he can't because when you're talking and you move
a microphone around, you can't take that out and post
you turn.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, fixed it. He could fix It's a magician.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So anyway, we had I had such a good time
talking to Ben and Noel from the Stuff They Don't
Want You to Know podcasts that it had to turn
into two episodes because we just kept going and going
and yeah, I think we should just get to it
because here comes the rest of that episode, part two.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
So we're talking about body brokers, right and blood broke.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
So there is a there's a thing called the I
guess we here in the West we call it the
red market for organ donation because you can't you can't
make organs yet at scale in a way that will
work for people.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Those lists of being getting a legit donor are very long,
very hard to get into unless you know there are people.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Okay, and so there are as you, as you're probably aware,
we did some work on this crazy phenomenon where in
some a body broker and organ broker will go into
a rural environment somewhere in the world and they'll find
a community, often a grarian community that really needs money
(02:29):
or they're struggling.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
With a distressed community exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
And then they will offer them a real, what is
a life changing amount of money for them. And so
you can go into these villages where people have had
where you know, thirty percent or something of the population
has sold a kidney and then that kidney goes and
it gets a tremendous markup and has sold somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So you're saying there are people that go into underserved,
underprivileged areas and just say, hey, you got a kidney
for me, and these people say, yeah, take my kidney.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yes, And this is off books, right, this is black
market stuff we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, And because it's a global phenomenon, it's tough to
as dumb as it sounds, the bureaucracy but devils. It's like,
which country's laws apply, Right, that's a good point. Where
is it legal to say, yeah, man, I'll just kid you.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
You know, I.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Need a kidney. I've got fifteen hundred hot ones right now, right,
I don't know why I'm calling dollars hot.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Hot you met hot kids, that would makes way more sense.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, because you want to deal in bulk, right, I
see if you can get a price break. But it's
it's frightening. And then it ties into what we will
euphemistically call non consensual donations right.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
About to say even I saw that movie.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yes, oh man.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Also, if we say we donate our bodies to science, right,
we don't.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, you can say like I would like it for good,
you know, yeah, but you might end up being like
in the early days of car crash testing, they used courses.
You could be one of those.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You don't know, you could be one of those body farms, yeah,
which I'd be cool.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
There were one crazy one where like a dude in
San Francisco had some medical influence or whatever. He got
a body and basically dissected it in front of a
paying crowd like stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Like it's more like the traveling Bodies exhibitions.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
That's those Chinese yea even weak or too or there
were some.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Like yeah, now I feel like it sounds like we're
coming from China, but we're not really not. We're really not.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Hey, if people are doing stuff, they're doing it is
what it is. And I'm sure that we're doing plenty
here in the United States.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
No, Yeah, we're like South Park. We're equal opportunity offenders.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
There we go. Yeah, and it's and it's that kind
of stuff is scary, and it is not maybe as
fun or whimsical as the thought experiments of the pair
normal and alien exploration, but it's important and we try
to give or we we endeavor to give a mix
(05:09):
of things. So it's not always the very depressing Holy shit,
this is true, and it's not always, uh, the very
fun like interview with the guy who one believes not
only is Bigfoot reel, but that he is communicated with this.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Creature, like David Bakars are you talking.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
About Yeah, it's very nice guy.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
He has big Foot. Yeah, you see him in Blue Ridge, Georgia,
And it's really dude. It is on the level of
like Hall of Presidents Disney kind of exhibitions sort of
like stuff, and it is so cool. He's got this
like golf cart that he built that has like sonar,
dish and all of these things for catching the.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Bill Field investigations. He's got a he's got a.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Cruise animatronic Bigfoot that's the kind of talk and sing
and do all kinds of.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Does you have a life partner?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
He does, Okay, he does, he is. Yeah, it's a
real it's a part of their marriage. And and this
guy what you find when you communicate with people of
this nature who have a certitude. He's very open to questions,
you know, like us. So he there's nothing you could
ask that would really offend him. We're saying one of
the big things about biology and zoology and cryptozoology is
(06:24):
where's the poop? Right, That's how you know what creature
is real? And he rolled with He was like, you know,
that's a great question. We thought about that a lot.
And then the explanation he.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Called scat in the.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Space sat Yeah, in the space call in a lot
of space. But he I think that is something that
we can it's a lesson we can take to apply
to all kinds of discourse. So like when you are
being accused of being contrarian or something, that's a person
who feels incapable of actually exploring your questquestion with you, right, which.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I have no time for in my regular life. If
I'm talking to someone who's got their mind made up
and they're not willing to have a discourse or a conversation,
or they're not open to questions. It's kind of a
useless situation. I'm just sort of like not interested, you know. Yeah,
And I'm not trying to be a jerk, but like,
if someone's not willing to think about where their opinions
come from and why they think what they think are
they're not open to being asked questions, then they're probably
(07:23):
not someone I want to hang out with a bunch,
you know, And we ask questions in respectful ways. We
don't do gotcha moments. We're just curious and we're asking questions.
So if someone is immediately going to shut that down,
then we're like, why are you even here? Man? You know,
like this isn't worth any of our time.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But in defense of those folks who do react that
way for one reason or another, I imagine we can
be a bit annoyed at times because we came from
a We came from a place called when we started
all this weird podcastry, we came from a place called
how Stuff Works, which is all about you know, how
does a microphone work? Figured out coffee? And you know,
(08:01):
if you're in the crowd, today and you did that,
Thank you. But the like the the idea of just
continually playing that game that kids play, which is, you know,
the why game?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I do that?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah? Like okay, So for anybody who doesn't know what's
the why game?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Anything you do, a kid asks why, and even when
you give them the answer, the answer to that from them.
Why why are you wearing that hat?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Because I like it? Why because it matches my suit?
Why because my suit is great? Why but I do
the same thing?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, I want to know.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I propose Ben though, that we have a new catchphrase.
It's where's the poop?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I like it, Where's the poop?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It's literally about ask the ask question.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So I know that we've we've been talking for a while.
By the way, I think this might have to be
two episodes.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I've lost track system to light talking to you.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh yeah, same guys. By the way, I'm really glad
that you're here with Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown. Of
the stuff they don't want you to know, podcasts and
other podcasts and all kinds of stuff. But one of
the things that you guys mentioned earlier was of this
stuff gets so dark and heavy, and you know, okay,
let's move past it and blah blah blah. And I
get that. And it is dark and it is heavy,
but all change at some point comes from places that
(09:09):
are really dark and heavy. And I know that it
seems for a lot of people who are listening to
this maybe you don't want to hear about that stuff.
But as long as there's a call to action and
you can start doing something about it, it's not so dark, right,
And I think the first part in doing any of
that is talking about it, discovery and disseminating the information
to other people. So even though it might feel dark,
I think you guys are still doing some really great stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Thank you so much for that. Yeah, because that's we
want to empower people, right, But that's part of the
idea of asking a questions and saying, well, no, you've
heard from us, tell us what you think, and we do.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
An episode a week that is entirely crowdsourced. For lack
of a better term, we have a listener mail episode
and some of our best ideas for episodes come from listeners.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Some of your worst come from men too.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Well, sure, we don't usually make those in episodes.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
There are people with very specific takes they're very passionate
about somewhat the blood.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
The blood thing. We didn't really know about this Arkansas
blood thing. We had a listener write in and tell
us about it, and then it led to a whole
series of Bad Blood episodes.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I just love I love this point about empowerment, you know,
about being able to make some sort of change, whether
that comes from, as you said, like the spreading of
awareness or the Hey, do you also think this thing
is fucked up? Well, then here is a group, here
is an institution, here's a community, here's something happening, and
(10:37):
to all too often, for various reasons, it seems like
we live in a bad news world that maybe paints
an unrealistic picture of the world. Yeah, there are serious,
real problems, there are real conspiracies. But guess what, we're
also in the story. We are characters in the story.
(10:57):
We can affect the plot.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Honestly, it's the way we all are there for each
other and are able to talk about this stuff and
bounce it off each other and interface with our listeners
that make us feel like there's hope and that it's
not all doom and gloom, and we are always looking
for some positive spin or some positive angle not to
fool ourselves, but just to like not be scared, to
be alive, you know. I mean, it's just so easy
(11:22):
to let yourself be fall into that kind of hopelessness
and despair. And it's having friends that are like minded
and the know how to ask the right questions and
to have each other's backs. And then we feel like
the listeners are an extension of that, and I think
they feel that we are. So it's just really kind
of beautiful, sir. I'm getting like emotional about it. There
is a circle of trust and kindness when it's done right,
(11:43):
and I think we know we try our best to always.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Do it right. I didn't know if we get to it.
But before we end, there is a game that we
like to play. We would usually if you were on
our show. Now, this is a game that we would
play if you're if you're game for the game.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Always game for a game.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Okay, all right, So this is our conspiracy yes or
no kind of thing. Okay, So we're going to ask
you about some of the most prominent, like popular conspiracy
theories and we want to hear from you, Gandhi on
a yes or no. Okay, all right, Well, you want
to start us off.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We did aliens, We did do aliens, we did big Well,
I don't know what do you where?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Where do you fall on on? Yes, he's abominable snowmen,
you know, big foot type creatures. Maybe we can just
let's just broaden it to cryptis, to undiscovered creatures, yes, yes?
Or no?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Any big ones left?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yes you think?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Okay, yeah, I mean if they're undiscovered, I don't know
they're discovered. Of course they're out there somewhere, they haven't
been discovered.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I'm a yes on the yes on the big cryptids.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yes, I wish I could high five.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Okay, then let's do one. Okay, most popular. Did people
land on the moon?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Okay, another high five?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Not a chance faked.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Kubrick did fake the moon landing, but due to budgetary constraints,
it was actually cheaper to there.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, yeah, fake it all the moon?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah, because of catering. So uh JFK conspiracies. Do you
think any of those?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yes? Wow? Okay, See this is one that's a careful
high five we should talk about. This is a good
one because there was some new information that came out
relatively recently where this one of the secret Service agents
that just came out with a book, which is when
these things come out. There was an additional bullet that
he found and he it was lodged in the seat
(13:43):
of the of the limousine and he didn't tell anybody
about it.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Why he didn't know what to do. He put it on.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
JFK's gurney, just laid it there. The magic bullet theory,
the idea of how could this bullet have gone? Explain
this helped explain that there was an additional bullet if
you believe him. If you believe him, and there are
some people that do call his story the question and
find that a little suspicious waiting so long.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I read the book and he.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Said he was so traumatized by it that he didn't
follow any of that.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
He just created one of the biggest questions of all
time and.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Only decided to come out with it when he's doing
his book.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Right, Okay, Yeah, so there are.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
True to me though, I think I think he's probably
is telling the truth.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
I we talked. There's a show that came out on
the Network called Who Killed JFK? With Rob Reiner and
Solid Dad O'Brien and.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
We had Rob Reiner on the podcast how he was
actually getting spinal tap the movie.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
He was going to hang out with his war but
he had to go work on woral taps thet shooting
right now. But so, okay, so why do you find
the official narrative?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So my parents lived in Dallas for a while. Oh wow, Okay,
and my dad one of his favorite places to go,
just honestly, over and over was Dally Square Plaza. The people,
and I will say this, there might not be credibility
to it, but there are people in that area who
just spend their lives trying to tell you, Hey, just
so you know, this isn't how it went. Here's this
film that I have, here's proof that it happened. And
(15:18):
all I'm saying is I don't know. So I'm not
going to commit to one way or another. I will
leave my mind open to the fact that I don't
typically believe what the government sells us. Okay, just in general,
all of the things with like Lee Harvey Oswald being
a terrible shot and then all of a sudden, he's
this amazing shooter from a very obscure point of view,
(15:39):
being able to do this and then he gets killed
before he ever really has a chance to give his
side of how things happen. I mean to me, that's
just you know, that's enough for me to question.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And then the guy who kills him also gets killed.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It's enough for me to question. So because of that,
I will say I'll buy it.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
What do we say? Last night we were having a
bit of a night walk with our buddy Payton.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Last night was a night walk. You guys got a joint.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
There was some of that, some drinking and around New York.
New York's a good drinking city because you can you
can walk just around and find entertaining things and not
ever have to worry about, you know, driving and talks.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Case every every city we go to. Uh, this is
something that's known on our show, every city we go to.
I am a huge proponent of walking. I hate the sun.
So night walks are I resent.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You are a vampire.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
It insists upon itself.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
So we were walking around there, we're walking a night walk,
and there was I was I was smoking to join
those guys didn't particular, but I think I said something
to the effect of, you know, guys, the government's basically
just like legitimized organized crime, you.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Know, and they are the biggest organized crime organizations.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I'm just saying being a little more organized then, okay.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
But the fact is that we know this corruption is
part of the legacy of government back to its early
earliest forms, and it's a way of like protecting yourself
and covering your button, taking care of your buddies. And
you make the law, therefore you can skirt it.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, And then here comes JFK with all of these
ideas to get in the way of that and change
things and go against the grain and do things that
people did not support. And then oh, he's snuffed out.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
And he's messing with the money.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I again, it's enough for me to just question and
not buy what they're trying to sell me.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I'm so bad, I remembering titles of things that have
numbers in it. But that's Stephen king book, The Alternate
Reality about JFK's assassination. There's a TV series version of
it with James Franco, and it's very very good.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
With all the stuff that you guys are diving into,
and a lot of it has to do with government.
Do people ever reach out to you from governmental agencies
or somewhere that say, hey, calm it downfellas, no, no
it down.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
People that are like I did work for the DoD
or I did work for whatever agency. Here, here's my
inside scoop perspective. Please don't use my name.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
That's about yeah. And over the years, I think the
most chilling letters were the very polite ones, the ones
where they just sort of let you like, can I
touch it? They just sort of let you know, hey, hey, jump,
I saw your show, and uh and something, and those
those letters. You know, in some cases it can be
(18:26):
difficult to prove the authenticity of that kind of thing,
but we would get, you know, we get pretty collegiate stuff.
We haven't ever had someone specifically shut us down for
something that's more confessional.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
From the company side of things. No, huge credit to
iHeart by the way, they don't interve interfere with anything
we've ever done.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, they just care about the money.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
There even been times where we've you know, had to
say some maybe difficult to hear things about some potential sponsors,
you know, And it's not like someone gets ping in
their inboxes like hey, the conspiracy guys are up to
no good. We better shut them down.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yes, they don't get we got a Okay, here's probably
my favorite example. We did a series on the history
of assassinations, or targeted killings as they're called euphemistically. That's
not even a euphemism in a less cool way. It's
(19:26):
a polite way. It's like it's like, hey, don't worry
though we were aiming, but the yeah, so it's like
the ancient history of where assassin comes from, all the
way to the fact that any world government that is
capable of doing this, that feels it as appropriate, will
(19:46):
do it because assassination works. And we received a letter
from a person who has been involved in these situations
does have not and I vetted him and he's assassin
or in the assassity quiet Pills assassin adjacent. Okay, yeah, no,
that's different. Okay, Lake City Quiet Pills is a great example.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't think I remember this.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
But the he he actually it wasn't fan mail, but
it was just like a nice, well thought out response,
and he said, yes, you guys are largely correct. These
things do work, but one thing you missed is that
sometimes you have to do it. And that was he
wasn't you know, lecturing talking down. It is just like, hey,
(20:31):
here's an inside perspective, at which point I thought, this
is fucking crazy, but let's keep doing our little podcast.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I also would argue, I think we understand that, and
I don't know. I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm pro
or anti assassination, but we know that it was probably
good idea to assassinate a sam you know, a circumstances.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
It's a hot take, but I don't think he was
a great guy.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Not a great guy. So you know, one one person
terrorists is another person's freedom fighter, depending on what side
of the aisle you fall. So we know we assassinate people,
but we only assassinate the bad guys. I think that's
where the thing gets gets sticky.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, that guys to whom?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah, and that guy was to be clear who wrote
who wrote to us? You could argue maybe he was
trying to rationalize some things to himself. Possibly but dress.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I was encrypted or it was through one of those like.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That would make me think twice, Yeah, yeah, how like
I don't know how much can I touch it?
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I want to do with that guy. But but conspiracies
are you know, they come like folklore. They often come
from some grain of truth, and they're very popular in
the United States. It's one of the most popular forms
of folklore in this country. Because our country was founded
as a result of a conspiracy against well, I'm doing
(22:00):
a pivot against the United Kingdom, which is still you know,
a treasure trove of conspiracies, because the concept of monarchy,
if you had to explain it to an alien, is really.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Straight welfare case on the planet that we were talking about,
So it has no actually they have no power run.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
The real estate.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Are there other Hollywood pop culture conspiracies that you guys
are really into.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Uh, there there are, Yeah, there are quite a few.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
The one we did recently about just the studio system
in the early the Golden era.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Way to hire private detectives to like, you know, get
dirt on their competition.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
And because the student the studios got close to being
their own regional power, you know. And there was so
we know a lot of ugly hidden history of Hollywood
in terms of pop culture in the modern day. I
will make a prediction, uh here, and this is going
(23:06):
to develop pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's already prediction.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Okay, there's going to be even more public interest in
some really nasty cover ups on Nickelodeon side.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh for sure that now, Yeah, it's going to just.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Get bigger, I think so. And it's because of the uh,
it's because of the horrific predatory actions of.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Really bad stuff, I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Absolutely with children.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And then I had that I had that dumb, like
stoner moment. I was researching stuff about.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
This involve joints, but I was I like, had.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
That moment where I can't remember there was a TV
on randomly in the background. I'm reading about this stuff.
It's like weird rerunting and I turn around and I
realized the Nickelodeon logo is afoot. It was like the
moment in you know, Usual Suspects where you're like, oh,
that was Kaiser so, and I thought it was here
(24:06):
the whole time. And I know it's very again, it's
a disturbing thing, but I'd love you guys opinion on it.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I mean, you know, it's crazy to remember. We I
think within the kind of this conversation, we talked about
a lot of the weird grooming that took place with
young stars in terrible nineties. There was a club for
kids called the Soda Pop club. It was basically a
non alcoholic nightclub for like probably, I mean, that's the
exactly the location. Like Corey Feldman, Corey came. You know,
(24:35):
Corey Feldman has a lot of accusations about being molested
by high level executives, you know, And yeah, I think
that's just a continuations. What he's talking about is the
continuation of.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
That a real conspiracy affecting everybody in your grocery stores
or markets today. Shrink Flation is real. I sound like
an old man shaking my fist at the sky. Like
col Co Cola used to be twelve ounce bottle, used.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
To groups of raisins in my brand. I know.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I wish Scotty was here. Scotty's our producer who's typically
in that room.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
He is.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
He loves grocery stores. He's obsessed with them. He has
a podcast about cereal. You see all that serious stuff
in there. He is on one about shrink flation. He's like,
it used to be a six ounce box. Now it's
a two ounce box.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
It's the same prime, it's smaller in the box. It's
it's more.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
We got to hang out with this. I like his vibe.
Let's hang out with it around them well saw and.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Oh my god, this is awesome. Guys. I know I
could keep you here forever, so good thing.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
We didn't schedule anything else for today.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, guys, if you're ever back in town, because I
had a whole list of things and I wanted to
ask you about and I didn't even get to like
of them. So next time you're in town, I would
love for you to come back and we could do
another episode.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for hanging out
with us.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Thank you for coming in. This has been so fun.
And I wish we were all smoking a joint because
it would just keep going.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yeah, you're right, this conversation continues, we're going to have
to pick it up.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Well, guys, thank you so much. It's been awesome. If
people want to listen to your podcast about all of
these amazing things, how can they find you.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You can find us wherever you find your favorite shows.
We are stuff they don't want you to know. You
can see us. Let's see Apple all this other stuff
we got the social media. Oh we had a video,
well yeah, yeah, we do it off air.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
We'll do it off air, but we have this YouTube
channel where we post new video content every week. We've
got a really great team we work with and make
some fun kind of sketchy videos, sketchy sketchy comics, and
that is a conspiracy stuff and we are a conspiracy
stuff show on Instagram and TikTok. Ben and I also
do a show together called Ridiculous History that you can
(26:45):
also find anywhere you get podcasts, and we do two
of those a week, and we did five pieces of
stuff that I want to know content every week, and
then we.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Have we have a book called in a Burst of
Creativity stuff they don't want you to know, the.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Book, the movie, the experience.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Okay, lots of rooms awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
And if they want to find you on Instagram, I
know you just dropped the podcast info. Do you like
people to follow you personally?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, how can they find you?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You can find me at how now, Noel Brown, I'm
pretty exclusively on Instagram. Ben's all over the place.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
In another stunning burst of creativity, I am at Ben
Bullen on Instagram. Bow l, I n you can find
me on X somehow And that's I think right now.
Instagram is probably the main one. I'm on the cusp
of TikTok, but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Sure yeah, I'm not there yet either. I watched stuff.
I don't post anything.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I'm too old.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
All right, guys, it's been awesome and I hope that
you come back again. This has been great. Thank you, Andrew.
I have to say I wish you would have been
in there for some of the stuff when we were
talking about blood and body donation, because that's right their alley.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Oh yeah, for sure, that is. I gotta move the mic.
Sorry again. Yeah, I one hundred percent am interested in that.
The Yeah, it's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
There's a whole part that we actually had to cut out.
Did we already talk about this? I don't think we did,
so we you know, I record a lot of these
earlier than they are actually played for lots of reasons.
But when I recorded with Ben and Knowle, Diamond was
in there and one of the things that they were
talking about, they talked about two things that I cut out.
(28:30):
They talked about Kate Middleton, where Diamond, by the way,
clearly predicted exactly what happened. She said, I think there's
something tragically wrong. I think she's sick. Yes she did,
and that is what ended up happening. And then we
were all speculating about Diddy. Is he going to get
in trouble? Is anything gonna happen? Oh my gosh, I
wonder if if the cops are ever going to approach
(28:52):
him about all the things. And then bam, bam it happened.
So that was cut out a little behind the scenes
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I love those.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah. So now we have two things we need to Yeah,
talk it to a microphone, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't want to move her out of the way.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
My god. Anyway, So we have two things we have
to do. An entry of the burn book, which you're
going to submit today. Yeah, and then we'll do and
ask me anything. Okay, So who are you trying to burn?
What's making you mad? Andrew?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay? I think what bothers me is I offered to
buy you? Oh god, Josh, here we go and don't
oh my gosh, me just because you're getting burned?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And Diamond all breakfast this morning?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
This was after you were left out of the breakfast order.
I felt bad, so I offered to buy you breakfast
instead of just saying thank you. I originally got ah,
thank you, and then it was what nefarious actions are
you hiding? Why when did it become like what wounded
birds are you that you can't just take a simple
gesture and say thank you and move on. Why does
it have to become a thing. Why is it manipulative
(29:57):
to try and buy you breakfast? I made a mistake.
I'm offering to buy you breakfast. Just say thank you
and move on.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm glad you brought that up. That's a great question, Andrew,
thank you for asking. No. No, you just asked. See
what happens when you burn people who are sitting right
next to you, is they have a chance to re butt?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
But I don't need the butt because I gave you
ask what it is? No, No, there are no questions.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You literally just started sentences with sentences which.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Josh, take it out.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You know I edit these.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Right, Gandhi take it out.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Out anyway if you miss what happened. There was a
day where I texted Andrew and I said, people want breakfast,
and they were in crazy moods, and everybody wanted breakfast
now now now, so Andrew sent out the order and
then I shamefully went to pee and get myself some water.
And as I was doing that, everybody placed their orders
and the order was sent. Diamond didn't get in, I
(30:53):
didn't get in, Josh didn't get in. We were all
left out of the breakfast order. So this is where
it all came from. Then Andrews said, I'll buy you
guys breakfast. But this is what happened. You were very
sheepish and sad about it, and no one wants to
take advantage of that, which you know, which is one
of your manipulation tactics, and you get all sad and cue.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Here we go sad and cue like.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh, I'm so Sally, I can listen to that.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yes, so it's bad. So what would you rather me
have done? Just said, f you, I don't want to
get you breakfast. I felt bad. I wanted to offer
to get breakfast. The only thing that's crazy here is
how everyone's acting. I don't know what mob dramas you're
all watching that. We got to be on high alert.
But let's pipe it down, let's calm it down. Let's
just regroup and when somebody offers, just say oh, thank
(31:41):
you or no thank you, just.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Saying the bass in your voice that you have right
now you did not have this morning. I apologized very meekly,
like oh, I'm so sorry. Guys, I love you so much.
I'll buy you a breakfast. We're all like, no, that's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
So you're saying no because of what you inferred? Was
the tone of my voice there was that You took
that as oh he's acting sheepish. Oh that means I
have to I'm now feeling bad.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, Diamond, you're making something.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You were making a mountain out of a molehill.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Did I infer that tone or was the tone there?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I don't understand why we're even okay here, I don't
understand why we're even giving this man any mic time.
Let's just move on. You think you're burning us, but
you're really getting burned. So now Andrew, for the what
second time is being burned?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And so our Gandhi, Josh and Diamond, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
What, Just for that, I feel like we should let
your burn stand. You're right, we got burned. You did
not get burned. Okay, Diamond, let's get to the ask
me anything. I'm ready for this one here.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Oh no, he can't take he can't take the heat.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So he's getting out the kitchen in here. Bye, we're
gonna miss this sound.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Okay. This question is from Victoria McLachlan's seventeen Did you
meet Brandon?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Okay, Well, I'm at Brandon when I was in sixth
grade and he lived in my neighborhood. He lived in
the back of the neighborhood. I lived in the front
of the neighborhood, and we rode the bus together. Of course,
he's much older than me. However, I just like to
say that because it stresses about But on the bus
(33:26):
he was mean as fuck, and we used to fight
with each other all the time and pick on each
other all the time. And I will say it was
mutual combat. But we definitely weren't buddies. I mean, we
had the same friends. Obviously we lived in the same neighborhood.
He does not believe me when I say that. Well,
now fast forward to how we actually started dating. He
(33:47):
worked with a car company that does some really cool stuff.
They build like prototype vehicles that you see in auto
shows and in movies, and then he would travel with
these vehicles and show people what they were about and
how to use them whatever. So he came to New
York City for the audio show and posted a picture
outside the World Trade Center which is a few blocks
from where our old building used to be. And I
saw it and I thought it was cute, and I
(34:09):
was like, oh, really, like, you're right down the street
and you can't even say hi. We had kind of
kept in touch a little bit, you know, like throughout
the years, and he was like, Yeah, I'm in town.
Why don't you show me You're on the city And
I was headed to Singapore, but the timing worked out
where he was coming back to town when I came back,
so we went and hung out and we have been
dating ever since. That's so cute, ah, isn't it. And
(34:32):
it was just a couple of weeks after a guy
that I had been dating very casually went off to
the Air Force and Brandon was kind of weird about it,
and he made me tell him that I was seeing
somebody new because he said, Brandon is a military vet,
and he said, there's a very good chance that this
(34:52):
person thinks that you guys might still have something going on,
and I don't want to be He calls him Jody.
I guess Jody is a nickname for or the guy
that steals your girl when you're deployed. And he was
like I'm not gonna be a Jodie to somebody else,
so you have to talk to this person. And he
made me have a very weird conversation because that person
was like, yeah, I okay, cool.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So you wrote the Dear John letter.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah it was. It ended up being a text message, yeah,
a long one, and I was like, so, I just
wanted you to know. And I'm pretty sure that that
guy to this day thinks that I was talking to
both of them at the same time, because it was
pretty close. But in my head, I had been done
with that because we knew that he was going away.
He was going to the Air Force, so I didn't
think that it was like a conversation that needed to
(35:36):
be had. But anyway, Brandon made me have it, and.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Here we are.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You're a terrible human beings.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Shut the hell up. Shut the hell up. But funny
about that, well, I think it's funny. It was National
Diary Day one day here and my mom had just
given me my diary from seventh grade. So this war
clearly was extended because the page that I opened it
up and flipped to was me talking shit about Brandon,
(36:03):
going off about him, how he was evil, how he
was mean. I said some mean stuff to him and
seventh grade me not much different than me. Now, oh god,
it's very pathetic, very pathetic. Brandon.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm so sorry that you had to deal with this
when you were younger, and the fact that you have
to deal with this now.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Once again, I say, shut the hell up. And that's that.
So I think we have to wrap it up now.
That was great. The guys from the Stuff they Don't
want you to know podcasts Ben Bowleen Noel Brown, they're amazing.
Go listen to their podcast too. You can follow them
on Instagram. Diamond I love you answer, thank god he left. Yeah,
that guy's trouble. People want to find you on Instagram?
(36:40):
How do they do it?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
At Diamond Sincere and on Twitter? Twitter at Diamond Sincere
with an underscore.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, she won't give up ack. She loves it over there.
It's drama filled it And if you want to follow
me at Baby Hot Sauce for now, that may be changing.
And yeah, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Let me lat say bye bye.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
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