August 31, 2023 • 22 mins
Jelly Roll is riding high after ‘Need a Favor’ hit number one on the US Country Charts. He stops by to talk to Elvis about unexpected fame, selling out shows across the country, and a country music renaissance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go. It's another episode of thinking out loud,
and you're gonna want to be hanging out for this.
Country music singer jelly Roll stop by in the midst
of his sold out back road Baptism tour. He wanted
to talk about changing your life around and the crazy
things that people throw at him on stage. He's just
the best guy ever, and you're gonna fall in love
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with jelly Roll right now.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's listen in. I have woke up before noon three
times this year and you were too open. No, you're
the solution. Baby. Good morning America.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Okay, that's worth it, jelly Roll, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Baby, good mounting.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's just when Jelly Roll walks into the road, you
just feel good.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Thank you. It's normally because I bring an odor of
legal ass pot with me. Smells good.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We're the same to me that while driving up and
down the streets of New York, every single block has
a marijuana a store.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh dude, it's crazy, and I'm just assuming because it's
New York. Maybe judgmental, but I'm assuming all of them
are an undercover operation for something crazy like I don't know.
I just like to romanticize my New York is like
an old school gangster thing, you know, like they're stealing
TVs or knocking off trucks too.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
You know, I got bad news. They seem legit when
I go wow out on the back road baptism tour.
How many how many stops do you have on this tour?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Dude? Last night was night nine or forty four? Yes, sir,
there was a Bridgeport, Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Last night, just nine in. Are you okay?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Just oh dude, I listen. I got my first real
I tied one on last night. Full disclosure. I had
to get an ivy on the way here. But good,
but I feel great. No, it's been incredible, man. It's
I was explaining to somebody that, like, I couldn't have
even dreamed of this. I couldn't have even dreamed that
seven thousand people would buy a ticket to see me
in Bridgeport, Connecticut on a Wednesday, you know what I mean.
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So it's like, I don't know, this is all surreal
to me. Well, at least she didn't strap one on
last night. Yeah, right, exactly, or have one strapped on me.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You could be a confusing morning. So we had someone
to leave us a talkback on our iHeartRadio app So
I literally just heard you guys talking about an interview
with Jelly Rolls. And as I'm heading out ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Five dors in Delaware, I passed two tour buses and
then one huge pink.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
One with Bunny Ears and XO.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Apparently Jelly Roles White hats her own tour bus.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, that was pretty cool to see. Explain this to me.
First of all, especially sounds I hurt to her. Buses
more fun than yours.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Way more fun than my tour bus. It's way more fast.
And first of all, this lady is awesome, thank you. Yeah,
Bunny brought her own bus man, She's got her own crew.
It's a big old pink bus. I was dead set
against it, and then she took it to TikTok and
the people voted yep. But she's riding around in a
big pink spaceship with Bunny years haul over it. That
says Bunny x.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Though it sounds like and I'm making an assumptions here,
you guys are having a lot of fun, even though
you're only nine in you're having fun on this too.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well. You got to remember, I'm kind of Van Wilder
of the music business. Anyways, you know, I kind of
got here a little later than everybody else and partied
on the way. So we're just kind of I feel
like it's a mobile frat party for us. None of
us went to college, so we're just imagining what college years,
what it been like. And it's a ball dude. It's
we're having fun on and off the stage. Maybe maybe
this is college. It's a different type of university.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Let's talk about. Let's go back, let's go back. Where
are you from? Tell everyone in your words, like you
tell everyone your story and what motivated you, in your opinion,
to get you where you are today.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I would say that I'm from Antiox, Tennessee. My mam
and gave me the nickname Jelly Row when I was
a kid. My name is Jason D. Ford. I was
born in Antioch, which is a little town right outside
of Nashville, you know, twenty thirty minutes on house kirts town.
And I grew up just in a house at music
and all I want to do is make music. And see,
I never had another thing I wanted to do but music,
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you know, and this this has been my whole life.
I understood purpose of music when I was young You
and I spoke about it before, briefly, but like music
resonated in my household different. I watched people deal with
drug addictions by listening to music. I watch people get
sober listening to music. I watched people relapse listen to music.
I had all these I watched people deal with mental
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health and trauma and tragedy through music. It was like
we had a house that we didn't talk a lot,
but we throw on records, you know what I mean.
So it's funny. I ended up being a big talker,
you know. But that's what got me into music, and
that's been my purpose from day one. Was I call
it therapeutic music. It's real music for real people with
real problems.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So you say to the other role that you always
wanted to be in music? Does does that mean as
a kid you were fintasizing a beat about becoming a
successful millionaire doing music or just playing honky tonks anywhere USA?
What what did that mean to you then?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Being in music? Yeah, the early dream was just hockey talks, right,
because I didn't see I didn't know. You know, they
they say you believe what you're exposed to, and I'd
never seen success. Right. So it was like I seen
dudes play the local bar and I was like, Yo,
if I can go play some local bars, I could
make some money and not have to commit uh nefarious
criminal activities, you know what I'm saying. I was like,
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so I just wanted to And then I started seeing
scale and then that's when you start going, oh man,
I'm dreaming too small. This is like this thing could
be a thing thing, you know what I mean. But
initially the plan was just to you know, I guess
I never even associated money with it, you know what
I mean. I just associated like these dudes were doing
what they loved for a living. They were touching people
and they wasn't selling drugs, and that's what inspired me,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So coming up, did you did you play all roadhouses?
Did you? Did you ever play a show where you
see the movies where they put chicken wire up in front?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I played one of those.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Tell where I was going with because some people mayn't
understand what chicken wire and in front of the stage is.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
This is a real thing. They put up chicken wire
and I and I asked them the first time I
got to play one, I said, why don't y'all put
Why chicken wire, they said, because when people were throwing
the beer bottles and they were hitting like regular fencing,
it would still crack and go through. They were like,
the chicken wire just kills everything. So these guys, I mean,
because these bars were literally rowdy enough that you got
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behind the chicken wire because they start throwing stuff. I've
been I've had the most fascinating time Elvis watching all
these artists get stuff thrown at them on TikTok, and
I'm just tickled because I'm like, oh, these people never
played a bar. Like if you're like, you don't know,
I don't know what it's like not to have stuff
thrown at me. You know what I'm saying. I've only
played to this day people throw brawls or pots. I
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get lots of pot. I mean, like Cypress Hill amounts
of pot thrown on the stage of It's like, I've
been getting stuff thrown at me my whole I played
the Gathering of the Juggalos. Somebody shot a bottle rocket
at me once at live bottle rocket. Yes they can,
that can get through chicken wire, Prue, I could get
through chicken wire. But yeah, we played. I played a
spot in Louisbourg, Tennessee that had chicken wire at it.
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I'll never forget. I played a lot of places that
had big fences or just big you know, it's man
them ald just scary bars, dude.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But yeah, I would think that if you're playing a
roadhouse and they're throwing long Star beer bottles at you,
you are getting hit with the liquid of the beer
the backwash. That could be like success, they love me.
They're all getting messed up out there, they're loving the show.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh yeah. It was like the first time I played
the Gathering, they shot me with fago and I didn't
understand it. That was how they endeared you, Like if
they sprayed fago at you, if they if they sprayed
pea at you, they didn't like you, Okay. It was
that dramatic of a difference. Faygo thumbs up, pissed thumbs down.
How do they throw pea? Oh dude, they put a
pee in a bottle and throw it. Yes, and then
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just yeah, it's crazy. I seen a girl get hit
with a bottle of pea at the Gathering one time.
Her name was u Tia Tila Tila Tequila. It was
Tila tequila.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We heard of her.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Absolutely, yeah. I was there when that happened, the famous
gathering incident. It was crazy, dude.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So if you get a hit with a liquid, it
takes a second to realize, well, either it's beer or.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Pe and you got to either smell it or liquor. Right,
It's the only way to find out, Elvis.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
There's no time to send it to the last sit.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
There and go or go oh god, music so glamorous,
this glamorous career you've chosen.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, and then you wake up one day and you're
on Good Morning America on ABC. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well before that, though, I was with you on the
Only Intrepid. That was still the coolest day we've had.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
On That was a cool thing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
General said he's only been up and at him before
noon but three times, three times this year, and I
was because two of those because of me.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm so sorry. I'll wake up for you any day, Papa.
Let's talk about country music. You know, country music.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
When I was growing up in Texas, it was about
pickup trucks and dogs. And you know, someone's in prison
and a mom involved. Right now, look at the music
you're putting out. It's, as you say, therapeutic, it's it's
truly meaningful. I mean, it's it resonates in a way
that country music really never used to resonate about it, right,
(09:13):
And of course this is from your personal experience in life,
I guess. I mean, are you seeing other country artists
really truly moving towards this more honest approach to their
music making?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah? Yeah, I think we're going back to that era
a little bit right now. I think guys like Sturgel
or Tyler Childers, Colter wall Zach Bryant, these guys that
are just the singer songwriter thing is back happening in Nashville,
and it's incredible to watch. It's not to say every
other era of country music wasn't cool, but that seventies
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era was special. When Willie was writing all these songs
with Wayland and all these cool collaborations were happening, and
there was a lot of myth building happening to the
outlaw movement. And I think guys like myself, Hardy Morgan
Wallen following that group of guys that are kind of
also like the other side of what Tyler Childers and
them do with that singer songwriter mentality and sharing a
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different story.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You know, So the good old opry has made a turn.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Oh yes, babe, then the grand old opry is like
accepted us with wide arms open as well. So it's
been even cooler to see like the only critics we
get are like, you know, like the purest you know
what I mean, and they're gonna always. But I think
that what's happening for country music right now. It's never
been a cooler time to be a part of country
music than right now.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Looking at your single Need of Favor, which is still massive.
What's in the middle of its massive phase? Your number
two number one consecutive hit, is that right?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, listen to these lyrics. I mean, we're gonna play
it in a minute. You listen to these lyrics, and
this is this is coming from a place a lot
of artists country and our country are not feeling vulnerable
and and brave enough to show right. But you it
sounds like you would rather do a song like that
than a song about moms in prison and dogs and trucks.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, So why is it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So important to you to get that off your chest
and out of your heart?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Vulnerability? I think also like I grew up at Myron
guys like James Taylor, right, Jim Crochey. These were my heroes, right,
and these dudes that just bared their soul on these records.
You know, I just Bob Seger guys that we were
listening to against the Wind at four o'clock this morning,
drinking down the highway, and it just it's like the
first time you ever hear it. Every time you hear it,
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And I just wanted to write songs for those, And
I want to write songs like those, And I wanted
to write songs for people that don't have songs wrote
about them, right, Like it is important as a songwriter
and as a commentator to sometimes talk about the things
that are people are, you know, Like I mean, we
talk about everything from drug addiction to you know, I mean,
we get you, sir, you've heard the music, you need
a favorites of a great example. I mean, we get
really raw with relationships and how we deal with things.
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It's like I felt like when I was coming up,
nobody representing my culture and music, and I was like,
if I ever get a chance, you know what I mean, Like,
if God ever gives me that megaphone. I'm a scream
in it, you know what I mean. And I'm just
trying to represent those without representation.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So nine shows into this forty four stop.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Nine sellouts in a row.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Let me tell you, h nine sellouts.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Maybe it's a big deal for the big.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Gap sellouts of forty four. The fans are getting to you.
They're talking to you like, what are you hearing? Are
you hearing anything that you expected to hear? Are you
hearing anything that you did not expect to hear? From
how they are responding to what you're giving them.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
The music wise, it's crazy. It's I don't know what
I expected, but the outpouring of love every night. I mean, dude.
I know artists always say this, but I mean dude,
We're laughing, dancing, and crying in that ninety minute set
every night, Me and fifteen thousand people every single night.
You know. It's It's It's church, It really is. I
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didn't understand it, but my friends who aren't from the
South that are like, I don't know what a Sunday
service looks like, but I would assume this is it.
And that hit me. It hit me, especially last night
because all my new York City friends came to Bridgeport
and they were like, is this what church is like
down South? And to myself, I thought, kind of, this
is kind of what church is like. Yeah, it was
like in this really weird way. And maybe that's where
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I draw a lot of that inspiration from. It's my
early roots, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, go into a great church service. It's supposed to
wear you out, oh for sure, but being able to laugh. See,
I went to Southern Baptist, right, we went to church.
Not a lot of laughing in a Southern Baptist.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
For a lot of hell fire and brimstone, a lot
give you a little bit of hope at the very end.
Exactly at the very end, they'd hit one major chord
on the oregan and be like, but there's hope.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
And then and they keep going on and on, and
you know, there's a there's a pot roast burning back
at the house because your Sunday, your Sunday roast is burning.
But a good service is what you're giving your fans,
you know. I mean, but let's go back to laughter.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
As a Southern Baptist. You know what they say, Southern
Baptists are famous for two things. What's that eating and arguing.
That's that's what they're the best at. Dude. I grew
up in a Southern Baptist church, which the Chapel the
Church I named after my album after as a little
Southern Baptist church on a back road, one hundred person church.
My daddy used to say, you know what the difference
between a Baptist and a Methodist is? I said what
he said. At least a Methodist will say hello at
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the liquor store.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Right. Look, I let's talk about the laughter you guys.
I'm going to make an assumption, just the few times
we've been with you, I assume that you guys do
a lot of laughing.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Oh it hurts the tummy. We're all a bunch of
stoners that think we're comedians. So's the worst crock pot ever.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
During during all the traveling and all the all the
time on stage and laughing with your friends, getting a
little messed up here and there, do you ever have
moments where you just need to go off to your
to the side and go, okay, I need some jelly
roll time? And or do you always be Are you
always the gregarious ue we have to be around people?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No? No, I love it. I'm it's it's a mixed Normally,
I just love being around people, though I just kind
of want to go. Dude, I'll sit in the back
room sometime. I'm a sleeper. That's what I really am.
I realized earlier in my career. You can't be fat, dehydrated,
and sleepy. So I have chose to sleep as much
as possible to know what I'm saying to at least
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have one of those three things. Check.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Look at this forty four sold out nights. But then
you look at like a Taylor Swift whatever, how many
shows is she doing. She's like like eight hundred thousand
shows in one year.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
She's been to break every record on Earth. It's been
the funnest thing to watch and what she's doing, you know,
but you're providing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Taylor Swift is doing these shows that are just like
visually stunning. Every move she makes on stage is an
Instagram moment. Everything she says is just perfectly placed. Your
show makes you feel the same, but it seems like
it's the opposite. I'm sure there's a lot of planning
going into shows. You have a set list, but it
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looks like you guys are just up there, like, just
do what do you want to do next?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
All right, let's do that song. It's pretty close, man,
We're just damning, dude, we're doing I left a lot
of room in my set open for that, like for
the feeling of the room, you know what I mean,
because I feel like music is supposed to meet people
where the room is, and we're also like, I don't
know why I've always been this way, but I feel
like it sounds a little better when it's a little sloppy.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's normal, it's organic.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, it's like there's this like supernatural thing, which I
love what Taylor does too. I am a swiftie for
the record. Now you go on the record. First time
I've ever talked about this publicly. Somebody clip it and
send it to Taylor. I love her. She's from Hendersonville, Tennessee,
and we never met, but we're like neighbors. But uh,
our stuff's just like a little more sloppy in general,
and that's just, you know, I don't know. Bob Singer
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is another Bob Segert quote. He had two of my
favorite quotes of music. He said that one just search
for songs you can sing with conviction. That's quote is
on my studio wall.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Now, songs you can sing with conviction?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yep? Just that easy, Like what the most easy way
to think of it, like just search for songs that
you can sing with conviction. And he said, man, it
was something different about this silver Bullet Band because they
played just a little sloppier. He was like, it's just
something that made it feel more, you know, like he's
when he talked about what he thought his best records were,
it was like, anytime I did something with a silver
bullet band, it was just a little more grid, a
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little more slop to it. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Is that just a known thing on the stage with
your band or do you ever have to stop it
down and go, hey, can you slop this up?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
No? No, no, I have to unslop them. Yeah, I
have to catch them backstage before the show, like somebody
had the tequila for another hour, you know, saying because
these guys will go.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Gosh, you guys seem like you run it high and hard.
I mean, after forty four sold out shows, are you
gonna be ready for the rehabit facility?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
For sure? The ones we got to check in the
class action lawsuit, I get from making people drink every
night on stage. Uh no, dude, we'll do good. We'll sleep,
I get some rest. But I also, man, I'm telling you, dude,
I drank probably two nights this whole to another band,
those degenerates, they're horrible. It's almost a prerequisite. We got
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one sober guy in the band, and I like him,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Don't let him know you feel so. Look, you've been
doing music a while now, now that you've been out
of the road, what do you what have you learned
about anything, the fans, the music, the traveling whatever. That
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is kind of a surprise to you, maybe a tough
question to answer without thinking about it for a minute,
Like what, like there's gotta be a learning journey going
on for you.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, I'm surprised still at how many people know me
outside of the show. Like this whole thing to me,
Elvis is still I don't understand it yet. Like we
still pulled up to Like I left my show the
other day to go to like a marijuana store in Maine,
and on the way back, I had a moment where
I was like, man, is traffic always is bad here
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on a Tuesday? And it was my concert. Traffic and
we were waiting on the police escort to come get us.
You were the problem was the problem? I was like,
this isn't like I still don't get that. That's what's
surprising me the most is I have a concert thirty
minutes away from this marijuana store, and I took fifty
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pictures at this marijuana store. You know what I mean.
It's like, it's just crazy. This is all awesome, but
just I didn't expect it. I don't know what I thought.
Even when you look at the ticket sale numbers, you're like, man,
this is a lot of humans. This is a lot
of souls and stories coming into the show tonight. But
until you see them, and when you see them in
the arena, it's one thing. But when you see them
in the parking lot, tailgate and party in or you
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know what I mean, Like you see the city's hotel
selling out, You're like, I couldn't imagine what Taylor Swift
feels like. Dude, I mean you talk about her, Dude,
she shakes the entire city's economy.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
They show up on the Richter scale. They literally did
one night.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
God I pray for that. You would have shaked the
earth and you gotta think my fan base physically, her
fan base is twice the size of ten times the
size of mine with people, but my fan base physically
is twice the size of her fan base. So could
you imagine to wait, yeah, right, you know what I mean,
like a lot more adults. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I gotcha.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Could you imagine the damage we would cause the met
Life Stadium if we ever got there?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You know what we talked about you doing your shows.
One day, you're gonna be taking a break. You're gonna
go see a show. You're gonna I know you're gonna
be like, do I want to go see a show?
But I'm gonna assuming the kind of show you want
to go see. Jelly Roll is what you're doing, right,
You're you're doing the kind of show you would love
to see?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Oh yeah, for right or wrong? I went to go
see Garth Brooks in Vegas the first night of his
Garth Brooks plus one residency opening night, right special man,
and uh we try to go see uh Tyler Chillers
last Sunday, but I just couldn't couldn't figure out the
travel because I had a day off. But he was
like two hours away. Wow, we still go to shows
all the time. I'm gonna look at there. One happened
here tonight somewhere we're off. I think you are the show,
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not the show.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Let's go wherever you go tonight, that would be the show.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's gonna take over a bar like it's a honkey do.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I think I've told you this before, I tell you
again before for you you run out the door. I
just want to say thank you. And look, all the
years I've been interviewing people, I still and I'll say
it until the end of my career.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You are one of the most genuinely.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Great guys to interview because you're just real and I
know exactly whatever you're serving up is what we need
to be eating.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And I appreciate it so much. Thank you for your support, man,
I want to say I want to give your flowers
and in person too, on and off air. Man, you
you stepped up for me early and continue to do
so bro even today, just taking the time to do
this with me and letting me come in a little
later than you're used to.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I could be sleeping right now.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, yeah, I know. I felt bad. I was like,
what he don't know is This is like six am
for me, and what I don't know is it's like
nine pm for him.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, we don't know what time. You're the best, jelly Roll.
Thanks for coming in today and I was sure the
man brother.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Love you man.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I've been doing this for so many years and when
you see and meet someone like Jelly Roll with all
that star power and it's all generated from that huge
heart loving I'm sure you just heard that in that
interview with him. We love you jelly Roll. I love
how he's blending the lines between his art and real
life and he created relatable lyrics that all of his
fans across the world connect with true legacy. He's leaving.
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Can't wait to see what's next for jelly Roll. All right,
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Until next time, I'm Elvis Duran
Here we go. It's another episode of thinking out loud,
and you're gonna want to be hanging out for this.
Country music singer jelly Roll stop by in the midst
of his sold out back road Baptism tour. He wanted
to talk about changing your life around and the crazy
things that people throw at him on stage. He's just
the best guy ever, and you're gonna fall in love
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with jelly Roll right now.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's listen in. I have woke up before noon three
times this year and you were too open. No, you're
the solution. Baby. Good morning America.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Okay, that's worth it, jelly Roll, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Baby, good mounting.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's just when Jelly Roll walks into the road, you
just feel good.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Thank you. It's normally because I bring an odor of
legal ass pot with me. Smells good.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We're the same to me that while driving up and
down the streets of New York, every single block has
a marijuana a store.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh dude, it's crazy, and I'm just assuming because it's
New York. Maybe judgmental, but I'm assuming all of them
are an undercover operation for something crazy like I don't know.
I just like to romanticize my New York is like
an old school gangster thing, you know, like they're stealing
TVs or knocking off trucks too.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
You know, I got bad news. They seem legit when
I go wow out on the back road baptism tour.
How many how many stops do you have on this tour?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Dude? Last night was night nine or forty four? Yes, sir,
there was a Bridgeport, Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Last night, just nine in. Are you okay?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Just oh dude, I listen. I got my first real
I tied one on last night. Full disclosure. I had
to get an ivy on the way here. But good,
but I feel great. No, it's been incredible, man. It's
I was explaining to somebody that, like, I couldn't have
even dreamed of this. I couldn't have even dreamed that
seven thousand people would buy a ticket to see me
in Bridgeport, Connecticut on a Wednesday, you know what I mean.
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So it's like, I don't know, this is all surreal
to me. Well, at least she didn't strap one on
last night. Yeah, right, exactly, or have one strapped on me.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You could be a confusing morning. So we had someone
to leave us a talkback on our iHeartRadio app So
I literally just heard you guys talking about an interview
with Jelly Rolls. And as I'm heading out ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Five dors in Delaware, I passed two tour buses and
then one huge pink.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
One with Bunny Ears and XO.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Apparently Jelly Roles White hats her own tour bus.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, that was pretty cool to see. Explain this to me.
First of all, especially sounds I hurt to her. Buses
more fun than yours.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Way more fun than my tour bus. It's way more fast.
And first of all, this lady is awesome, thank you. Yeah,
Bunny brought her own bus man, She's got her own crew.
It's a big old pink bus. I was dead set
against it, and then she took it to TikTok and
the people voted yep. But she's riding around in a
big pink spaceship with Bunny years haul over it. That
says Bunny x.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Though it sounds like and I'm making an assumptions here,
you guys are having a lot of fun, even though
you're only nine in you're having fun on this too.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well. You got to remember, I'm kind of Van Wilder
of the music business. Anyways, you know, I kind of
got here a little later than everybody else and partied
on the way. So we're just kind of I feel
like it's a mobile frat party for us. None of
us went to college, so we're just imagining what college years,
what it been like. And it's a ball dude. It's
we're having fun on and off the stage. Maybe maybe
this is college. It's a different type of university.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Let's talk about. Let's go back, let's go back. Where
are you from? Tell everyone in your words, like you
tell everyone your story and what motivated you, in your opinion,
to get you where you are today.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I would say that I'm from Antiox, Tennessee. My mam
and gave me the nickname Jelly Row when I was
a kid. My name is Jason D. Ford. I was
born in Antioch, which is a little town right outside
of Nashville, you know, twenty thirty minutes on house kirts town.
And I grew up just in a house at music
and all I want to do is make music. And see,
I never had another thing I wanted to do but music,
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you know, and this this has been my whole life.
I understood purpose of music when I was young You
and I spoke about it before, briefly, but like music
resonated in my household different. I watched people deal with
drug addictions by listening to music. I watch people get
sober listening to music. I watched people relapse listen to music.
I had all these I watched people deal with mental
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health and trauma and tragedy through music. It was like
we had a house that we didn't talk a lot,
but we throw on records, you know what I mean.
So it's funny. I ended up being a big talker,
you know. But that's what got me into music, and
that's been my purpose from day one. Was I call
it therapeutic music. It's real music for real people with
real problems.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So you say to the other role that you always
wanted to be in music? Does does that mean as
a kid you were fintasizing a beat about becoming a
successful millionaire doing music or just playing honky tonks anywhere USA?
What what did that mean to you then?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Being in music? Yeah, the early dream was just hockey talks, right,
because I didn't see I didn't know. You know, they
they say you believe what you're exposed to, and I'd
never seen success. Right. So it was like I seen
dudes play the local bar and I was like, Yo,
if I can go play some local bars, I could
make some money and not have to commit uh nefarious
criminal activities, you know what I'm saying. I was like,
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so I just wanted to And then I started seeing
scale and then that's when you start going, oh man,
I'm dreaming too small. This is like this thing could
be a thing thing, you know what I mean. But
initially the plan was just to you know, I guess
I never even associated money with it, you know what
I mean. I just associated like these dudes were doing
what they loved for a living. They were touching people
and they wasn't selling drugs, and that's what inspired me,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So coming up, did you did you play all roadhouses?
Did you? Did you ever play a show where you
see the movies where they put chicken wire up in front?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I played one of those.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Tell where I was going with because some people mayn't
understand what chicken wire and in front of the stage is.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
This is a real thing. They put up chicken wire
and I and I asked them the first time I
got to play one, I said, why don't y'all put
Why chicken wire, they said, because when people were throwing
the beer bottles and they were hitting like regular fencing,
it would still crack and go through. They were like,
the chicken wire just kills everything. So these guys, I mean,
because these bars were literally rowdy enough that you got
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behind the chicken wire because they start throwing stuff. I've
been I've had the most fascinating time Elvis watching all
these artists get stuff thrown at them on TikTok, and
I'm just tickled because I'm like, oh, these people never
played a bar. Like if you're like, you don't know,
I don't know what it's like not to have stuff
thrown at me. You know what I'm saying. I've only
played to this day people throw brawls or pots. I
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get lots of pot. I mean, like Cypress Hill amounts
of pot thrown on the stage of It's like, I've
been getting stuff thrown at me my whole I played
the Gathering of the Juggalos. Somebody shot a bottle rocket
at me once at live bottle rocket. Yes they can,
that can get through chicken wire, Prue, I could get
through chicken wire. But yeah, we played. I played a
spot in Louisbourg, Tennessee that had chicken wire at it.
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I'll never forget. I played a lot of places that
had big fences or just big you know, it's man
them ald just scary bars, dude.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But yeah, I would think that if you're playing a
roadhouse and they're throwing long Star beer bottles at you,
you are getting hit with the liquid of the beer
the backwash. That could be like success, they love me.
They're all getting messed up out there, they're loving the show.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh yeah. It was like the first time I played
the Gathering, they shot me with fago and I didn't
understand it. That was how they endeared you, Like if
they sprayed fago at you, if they if they sprayed
pea at you, they didn't like you, Okay. It was
that dramatic of a difference. Faygo thumbs up, pissed thumbs down.
How do they throw pea? Oh dude, they put a
pee in a bottle and throw it. Yes, and then
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just yeah, it's crazy. I seen a girl get hit
with a bottle of pea at the Gathering one time.
Her name was u Tia Tila Tila Tequila. It was
Tila tequila.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We heard of her.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Absolutely, yeah. I was there when that happened, the famous
gathering incident. It was crazy, dude.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So if you get a hit with a liquid, it
takes a second to realize, well, either it's beer or.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Pe and you got to either smell it or liquor. Right,
It's the only way to find out, Elvis.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
There's no time to send it to the last sit.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
There and go or go oh god, music so glamorous,
this glamorous career you've chosen.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, and then you wake up one day and you're
on Good Morning America on ABC. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well before that, though, I was with you on the
Only Intrepid. That was still the coolest day we've had.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
On That was a cool thing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
General said he's only been up and at him before
noon but three times, three times this year, and I
was because two of those because of me.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm so sorry. I'll wake up for you any day, Papa.
Let's talk about country music. You know, country music.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
When I was growing up in Texas, it was about
pickup trucks and dogs. And you know, someone's in prison
and a mom involved. Right now, look at the music
you're putting out. It's, as you say, therapeutic, it's it's
truly meaningful. I mean, it's it resonates in a way
that country music really never used to resonate about it, right,
(09:13):
And of course this is from your personal experience in life,
I guess. I mean, are you seeing other country artists
really truly moving towards this more honest approach to their
music making?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah? Yeah, I think we're going back to that era
a little bit right now. I think guys like Sturgel
or Tyler Childers, Colter wall Zach Bryant, these guys that
are just the singer songwriter thing is back happening in Nashville,
and it's incredible to watch. It's not to say every
other era of country music wasn't cool, but that seventies
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era was special. When Willie was writing all these songs
with Wayland and all these cool collaborations were happening, and
there was a lot of myth building happening to the
outlaw movement. And I think guys like myself, Hardy Morgan
Wallen following that group of guys that are kind of
also like the other side of what Tyler Childers and
them do with that singer songwriter mentality and sharing a
(10:07):
different story.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You know, So the good old opry has made a turn.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Oh yes, babe, then the grand old opry is like
accepted us with wide arms open as well. So it's
been even cooler to see like the only critics we
get are like, you know, like the purest you know
what I mean, and they're gonna always. But I think
that what's happening for country music right now. It's never
been a cooler time to be a part of country
music than right now.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Looking at your single Need of Favor, which is still massive.
What's in the middle of its massive phase? Your number
two number one consecutive hit, is that right?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, listen to these lyrics. I mean, we're gonna play
it in a minute. You listen to these lyrics, and
this is this is coming from a place a lot
of artists country and our country are not feeling vulnerable
and and brave enough to show right. But you it
sounds like you would rather do a song like that
than a song about moms in prison and dogs and trucks.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, So why is it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So important to you to get that off your chest
and out of your heart?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Vulnerability? I think also like I grew up at Myron
guys like James Taylor, right, Jim Crochey. These were my heroes, right,
and these dudes that just bared their soul on these records.
You know, I just Bob Seger guys that we were
listening to against the Wind at four o'clock this morning,
drinking down the highway, and it just it's like the
first time you ever hear it. Every time you hear it,
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And I just wanted to write songs for those, And
I want to write songs like those, And I wanted
to write songs for people that don't have songs wrote
about them, right, Like it is important as a songwriter
and as a commentator to sometimes talk about the things
that are people are, you know, Like I mean, we
talk about everything from drug addiction to you know, I mean,
we get you, sir, you've heard the music, you need
a favorites of a great example. I mean, we get
really raw with relationships and how we deal with things.
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It's like I felt like when I was coming up,
nobody representing my culture and music, and I was like,
if I ever get a chance, you know what I mean, Like,
if God ever gives me that megaphone. I'm a scream
in it, you know what I mean. And I'm just
trying to represent those without representation.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So nine shows into this forty four stop.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Nine sellouts in a row.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Let me tell you, h nine sellouts.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Maybe it's a big deal for the big.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Gap sellouts of forty four. The fans are getting to you.
They're talking to you like, what are you hearing? Are
you hearing anything that you expected to hear? Are you
hearing anything that you did not expect to hear? From
how they are responding to what you're giving them.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
The music wise, it's crazy. It's I don't know what
I expected, but the outpouring of love every night. I mean, dude.
I know artists always say this, but I mean dude,
We're laughing, dancing, and crying in that ninety minute set
every night, Me and fifteen thousand people every single night.
You know. It's It's It's church, It really is. I
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didn't understand it, but my friends who aren't from the
South that are like, I don't know what a Sunday
service looks like, but I would assume this is it.
And that hit me. It hit me, especially last night
because all my new York City friends came to Bridgeport
and they were like, is this what church is like
down South? And to myself, I thought, kind of, this
is kind of what church is like. Yeah, it was
like in this really weird way. And maybe that's where
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I draw a lot of that inspiration from. It's my
early roots, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, go into a great church service. It's supposed to
wear you out, oh for sure, but being able to laugh. See,
I went to Southern Baptist, right, we went to church.
Not a lot of laughing in a Southern Baptist.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
For a lot of hell fire and brimstone, a lot
give you a little bit of hope at the very end.
Exactly at the very end, they'd hit one major chord
on the oregan and be like, but there's hope.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
And then and they keep going on and on, and
you know, there's a there's a pot roast burning back
at the house because your Sunday, your Sunday roast is burning.
But a good service is what you're giving your fans,
you know. I mean, but let's go back to laughter.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
As a Southern Baptist. You know what they say, Southern
Baptists are famous for two things. What's that eating and arguing.
That's that's what they're the best at. Dude. I grew
up in a Southern Baptist church, which the Chapel the
Church I named after my album after as a little
Southern Baptist church on a back road, one hundred person church.
My daddy used to say, you know what the difference
between a Baptist and a Methodist is? I said what
he said. At least a Methodist will say hello at
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the liquor store.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Right. Look, I let's talk about the laughter you guys.
I'm going to make an assumption, just the few times
we've been with you, I assume that you guys do
a lot of laughing.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Oh it hurts the tummy. We're all a bunch of
stoners that think we're comedians. So's the worst crock pot ever.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
During during all the traveling and all the all the
time on stage and laughing with your friends, getting a
little messed up here and there, do you ever have
moments where you just need to go off to your
to the side and go, okay, I need some jelly
roll time? And or do you always be Are you
always the gregarious ue we have to be around people?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No? No, I love it. I'm it's it's a mixed Normally,
I just love being around people, though I just kind
of want to go. Dude, I'll sit in the back
room sometime. I'm a sleeper. That's what I really am.
I realized earlier in my career. You can't be fat, dehydrated,
and sleepy. So I have chose to sleep as much
as possible to know what I'm saying to at least
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have one of those three things. Check.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Look at this forty four sold out nights. But then
you look at like a Taylor Swift whatever, how many
shows is she doing. She's like like eight hundred thousand
shows in one year.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
She's been to break every record on Earth. It's been
the funnest thing to watch and what she's doing, you know,
but you're providing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Taylor Swift is doing these shows that are just like
visually stunning. Every move she makes on stage is an
Instagram moment. Everything she says is just perfectly placed. Your
show makes you feel the same, but it seems like
it's the opposite. I'm sure there's a lot of planning
going into shows. You have a set list, but it
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looks like you guys are just up there, like, just
do what do you want to do next?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
All right, let's do that song. It's pretty close, man,
We're just damning, dude, we're doing I left a lot
of room in my set open for that, like for
the feeling of the room, you know what I mean,
because I feel like music is supposed to meet people
where the room is, and we're also like, I don't
know why I've always been this way, but I feel
like it sounds a little better when it's a little sloppy.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's normal, it's organic.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, it's like there's this like supernatural thing, which I
love what Taylor does too. I am a swiftie for
the record. Now you go on the record. First time
I've ever talked about this publicly. Somebody clip it and
send it to Taylor. I love her. She's from Hendersonville, Tennessee,
and we never met, but we're like neighbors. But uh,
our stuff's just like a little more sloppy in general,
and that's just, you know, I don't know. Bob Singer
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is another Bob Segert quote. He had two of my
favorite quotes of music. He said that one just search
for songs you can sing with conviction. That's quote is
on my studio wall.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Now, songs you can sing with conviction?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yep? Just that easy, Like what the most easy way
to think of it, like just search for songs that
you can sing with conviction. And he said, man, it
was something different about this silver Bullet Band because they
played just a little sloppier. He was like, it's just
something that made it feel more, you know, like he's
when he talked about what he thought his best records were,
it was like, anytime I did something with a silver
bullet band, it was just a little more grid, a
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little more slop to it. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Is that just a known thing on the stage with
your band or do you ever have to stop it
down and go, hey, can you slop this up?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
No? No, no, I have to unslop them. Yeah, I
have to catch them backstage before the show, like somebody
had the tequila for another hour, you know, saying because
these guys will go.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Gosh, you guys seem like you run it high and hard.
I mean, after forty four sold out shows, are you
gonna be ready for the rehabit facility?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
For sure? The ones we got to check in the
class action lawsuit, I get from making people drink every
night on stage. Uh no, dude, we'll do good. We'll sleep,
I get some rest. But I also, man, I'm telling you, dude,
I drank probably two nights this whole to another band,
those degenerates, they're horrible. It's almost a prerequisite. We got
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one sober guy in the band, and I like him,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Don't let him know you feel so. Look, you've been
doing music a while now, now that you've been out
of the road, what do you what have you learned
about anything, the fans, the music, the traveling whatever. That
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is kind of a surprise to you, maybe a tough
question to answer without thinking about it for a minute,
Like what, like there's gotta be a learning journey going
on for you.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, I'm surprised still at how many people know me
outside of the show. Like this whole thing to me,
Elvis is still I don't understand it yet. Like we
still pulled up to Like I left my show the
other day to go to like a marijuana store in Maine,
and on the way back, I had a moment where
I was like, man, is traffic always is bad here
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on a Tuesday? And it was my concert. Traffic and
we were waiting on the police escort to come get us.
You were the problem was the problem? I was like,
this isn't like I still don't get that. That's what's
surprising me the most is I have a concert thirty
minutes away from this marijuana store, and I took fifty
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pictures at this marijuana store. You know what I mean.
It's like, it's just crazy. This is all awesome, but
just I didn't expect it. I don't know what I thought.
Even when you look at the ticket sale numbers, you're like, man,
this is a lot of humans. This is a lot
of souls and stories coming into the show tonight. But
until you see them, and when you see them in
the arena, it's one thing. But when you see them
in the parking lot, tailgate and party in or you
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know what I mean, Like you see the city's hotel
selling out, You're like, I couldn't imagine what Taylor Swift
feels like. Dude, I mean you talk about her, Dude,
she shakes the entire city's economy.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
They show up on the Richter scale. They literally did
one night.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
God I pray for that. You would have shaked the
earth and you gotta think my fan base physically, her
fan base is twice the size of ten times the
size of mine with people, but my fan base physically
is twice the size of her fan base. So could
you imagine to wait, yeah, right, you know what I mean,
like a lot more adults. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I gotcha.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Could you imagine the damage we would cause the met
Life Stadium if we ever got there?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You know what we talked about you doing your shows.
One day, you're gonna be taking a break. You're gonna
go see a show. You're gonna I know you're gonna
be like, do I want to go see a show?
But I'm gonna assuming the kind of show you want
to go see. Jelly Roll is what you're doing, right,
You're you're doing the kind of show you would love
to see?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Oh yeah, for right or wrong? I went to go
see Garth Brooks in Vegas the first night of his
Garth Brooks plus one residency opening night, right special man,
and uh we try to go see uh Tyler Chillers
last Sunday, but I just couldn't couldn't figure out the
travel because I had a day off. But he was
like two hours away. Wow, we still go to shows
all the time. I'm gonna look at there. One happened
here tonight somewhere we're off. I think you are the show,
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not the show.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Let's go wherever you go tonight, that would be the show.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's gonna take over a bar like it's a honkey do.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I think I've told you this before, I tell you
again before for you you run out the door. I
just want to say thank you. And look, all the
years I've been interviewing people, I still and I'll say
it until the end of my career.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You are one of the most genuinely.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Great guys to interview because you're just real and I
know exactly whatever you're serving up is what we need
to be eating.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And I appreciate it so much. Thank you for your support, man,
I want to say I want to give your flowers
and in person too, on and off air. Man, you
you stepped up for me early and continue to do
so bro even today, just taking the time to do
this with me and letting me come in a little
later than you're used to.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I could be sleeping right now.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, yeah, I know. I felt bad. I was like,
what he don't know is This is like six am
for me, and what I don't know is it's like
nine pm for him.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, we don't know what time. You're the best, jelly Roll.
Thanks for coming in today and I was sure the
man brother.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Love you man.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I've been doing this for so many years and when
you see and meet someone like Jelly Roll with all
that star power and it's all generated from that huge
heart loving I'm sure you just heard that in that
interview with him. We love you jelly Roll. I love
how he's blending the lines between his art and real
life and he created relatable lyrics that all of his
fans across the world connect with true legacy. He's leaving.
(22:09):
Can't wait to see what's next for jelly Roll. All right,
we have got a lot of guests coming up. I
can't wait for you to hear what we have coming
up next. If you like Thinking out Loud, make sure
you like, review and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
We'll see you next time. Thinking out Loud is hosted
by me Elvis Duran. The podcast is produced and edited
by Mike Coscarelli. Executive producers are Andrew Glisi and Katrina Norvel.
(22:32):
Special thanks to David Katz, Michael Kindheart, and Caitlin Madore.
Thinking Out Loud is part of the Elvis Duran podcast
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