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October 13, 2025 • 44 mins
Gerry Dulac calls in to discuss how Aaron Rodgers and the offense and Nick Herbig and the defense handled business against the Browns yesterday.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is WDV Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
He gets the snap play action pass, rolling out now
stepping up in the pocket and down he goes, Oh,
high Smith got there.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hartman got there as.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Well as he is sacked back at the twenty five
yard line.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi Smith looking good in his return there yesterday tackle
a couple assists, half a sack for Alex high Smith
and all the outside linebackers dominating yesterday. Harbig and TJ
just having a game against the Browns. One of you know,
I didn't get out and about much when we got
back from Dublin's. I got sick right away and I

(00:40):
was kind of, you know, hibernating there for a week
or so. So this weekend I finally got out and
everybody I ran into he's asking me about Dublin and
they're like, God, it just sounds like so much fun,
Like you guys had a great time and everything. And
when I kept emphasizing everybody is that I didn't feel
so much like I had a trip to Ireland, as
I had this trip into a Steeler's intern National PEP
rally for four days that took place in pubs. Uh,

(01:04):
you know, I didn't see any cliffs. I didn't see
any green. I didn't see any of that, and I
hope to go back, but it can't. But in coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's like your Steeler's.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Fandom is like, you know, in large three times, like
you're just that much more fired up about the Steelers.
And I can't imagine having coming back from that and
then Bill having the weekend that you had, because not
only did you host the tailgate at stage yesterday, but
Friday night you got to do the fashion show with
the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
So you've just been in the Steelers bubble for two weeks. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, I mean one of the things that, you know,
the theme this year for the fashion show, and they
always do such a great job.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Was the Wizard of Oz. No place like Home, and
so I came out.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
One of the first comments that I made was that
it was such a thrill and an honor to see
Dublin transformed into our home and just how we turned.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
The Emervau into a giant igu ale and all.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Of a sudden it was like just this yinzer palooza,
like in a whole other country where I'm thinking I'm
way out of outside of the hooplah or just the
dome that the game is happening in and then I
look in a nail salon and there's like a woman
getting French tips with a big Ben bumblebee jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm like, this is absurd, and I love us.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
But what I learned on that trip is just that
home is wherever the Steelers are, and the Steelers are
actually a home to fans across the world. And so
just basically thanking the Roonies for giving everybody something to
connect through, like it's it's just a connector. Like when

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I see people flagged up in Steeler's gear, what it
shows me is that those people are my home. So
I'm like, you know, let me go talk to them
because we're whatever we are.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, here we go, like you know, tells are going.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
It doesn't matter if you're at a home game, at
an away game, or at your gate at the airport,
like this is our home.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
And another thing about Art Rooney that I appreciate is
that you'll never see him flipping off fans. You'll never
see him throwing water at fans or acting like these
billionaire jackasses Jerry Jones or David Tepper and one of
the many owners who thinks that the team is about them,
and Art Rooney, having grown up ensconced in what the Steelers'
legacy and lore is and what it means, knows that

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it's much bigger than just his role in that where
some owners think it's that the fans owe them a
debt of gratitude for having the generosity to bring a
team to them, whereas in Pittsburgh it's a whole lot
different Here. This is it is religion, yeah, more than
it is a I opened a store and you're welcome

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to come into it.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Right.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yes, this is like the Cowboys are like the kiss
of the NFL. It's a merch shop. It's how much
money can we make on our team.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
The product's not that good anymore. The product's not great.
They were lying, like do they sell cooys caskets? They should?
They probably do. They probably do.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
But it's just an amazing weekend here Pitts, by the way,
like Strip District was.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Jammed, this.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Downtown was jammed all weekend long. Browns fans, Steeler fans.
It's really it was really the Steeler fans from all
over the country that come in because there were not
a whole lot of Browns fans there yesterday and during Renegade.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
As soon as Renegade started.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like the scoreboard went black and and the fans just
went and the Browns fans next to me go is this,
Oh no, is this the thing?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
And I'm like, it's it's the thing.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
They know what it is, name, it's the thing.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Same ooh mama.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
And the towels just start going there and they're like,
it's funny how fans know to like they're like slow
speed slow speed time.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, but they're ourselves, yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Right, accelerate.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
They just go crazy. I mean that always. I don't know,
I always love Oh, I love that too.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
And I got into it with somebody online because they
were like, this is just for the fans. If players
don't care anything about that, it's not pumping them up.
And I said, ask the players, all right, they might
not know whose sticks are, they might not know the
lyrics to Renegade, but when they see seventy thousand fans
and all.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Those towels going, you don't think that gets them ready
to run through a wall?

Speaker 4 (05:49):
What every player that comes here from somewhere else, it's
one of the first things I mentioned.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, They're like, I'm so glad to be on the
other side of that, this time, who was the best
dress Steeler Friday at the fashion show?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I mean, honestly, like DK Metcalf and Deshaun Elliott were
our co captains, so they were out of the running
for the swag award that we give away for every
fashion show now named the Golden Cleat Award. Those two
dudes the cleanest dress people I've ever seen.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
You don't you should name it after Frenchy Fuqua.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, give it the Fuqua dude.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I don't know if anybody you know, like player remembers him,
but I mean they've definitely seen that picture.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, and goldfish shoes everybody we're talking about, dude, Frenchy
Fuqua used to wear like the most crazy outfits.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
The most flamboyant.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
He actually had shoes like platforms that had goldfish swimming around.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
In the bottom.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Okay, I thought that was a joke.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's real, that's real, all right.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
And it came and one of the models came out
on Friday night and had a terrible towel cape and
Missy was like, I think you look great in that cape.
I was like, you're breeding my mind. I want that cape.
I need that cape. I will have that cape perfect
with my terrible tube top and also a terrible cape.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Who thinks of this?

Speaker 4 (07:18):
It's Keia Tomlin and in her collections are always incredible,
but she was in rare form this year with the
selections that she had for the show. Everybody just gets
so into it has so much fun. It's really funny
because the offensive linemen, as you can imagine, are not
big fashion guys, mainly because you know you're you're you're

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paying more because of the amount of fabric that it
takes to cover their bodies.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Washington just come out wearing a cape the.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
The infield tarp from PNC Park.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
But and then you know, I bet Kia and Mike
Tomliner a feeling pretty good about things right now because
you know Steelers.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Tomlin stays for the whole night. Like he comes out,
he's grinning from ear to ear. He's hanging. He just
wears a suit, nice business casual suit. No, no, he
he gets formal for it, and he comes out and
says a few words in the beginning, and then you know,
Bob Pompiani is such a great host, and he was
actually the man literally behind the curtain.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
He was a wizard of put hello. I Mean, it's
so crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Backstage because you're wrangling fifty three players and their whole families.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
So like we're like, he's like, there's two kids here.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
There's four names. I'm like, maybe they're hyphen I don't know.
And then and then the director, the stage director is like,
just say Ann family, just say Ann family. And then
and then me and uh Missy Matthews are out there
on stage together, and she's such a a partner out

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there because mean, so much of the show is just
this high octane, no break, so many transitions, and I
like forgot a couple things because at one point I
asked de Sean Elliott and DK Metcalf to do me
a huge favor and beat the Brownies this weekend, and

(09:21):
then he grabbed the mic, looked both ways and was
like after Browns.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
And I was like, all right, well, I think that
ends the show.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
And I just started ending the show, and she was like,
boh wait, we have something else to figure out.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
And I'm like, oh yeah, there's a whole other part
of the show. She's just like, f bum, all right,
we're gonna get out on that, all right.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I'd like to thank Ki Tomlin credit Rooney, the Steelers,
my parents.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I mean, as frustrated as I've been with Mike Tomlin
and what they have done, most of my frustration comes
from a personnel standpoint, Like I just I have questioned
what the hell they've been doing the last year and
change think some things just haven't made sense to me.
But you can't really question his success rate in the
NFL right now. Look around the league and look how

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bad some of these teams. Look how bad the Browns are,
Look how bad the Bengals are.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Look how bad the Jets are.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
And that's a great comparison because Aaron Rodgers was on
the Jets last year. They won five games. Justin Fields
in his first six games, won four of them. Here,
look at justin Fields in New York. Look at Aaron
Rodgers in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, they still haven't won in Aaron Rodgers stability matters.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yes, Russell Wilson right now he is busted.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Splinters in the ass.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, but it also just kind of shows to go,
yeah that it's there isn't another amazing coach just waiting
to take a franchise over. I mean, Ben Johnson struggled
in a little bit I mean, Aaron Glenn might not
make it through the season in his first year as coach.
I had looked, and you know, there's teams that are

(11:02):
struggling out there right now, and a lot of times
it's because I see I think that coach Marizona is good.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I think John Gayda's a good coach. I mean other
than assaulting as players, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Other than that, yeah, But there's there's a lot of
mediocre coaching and bad football teams out there right now.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And the Steelers, as bad as things.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Get, they never look like some of these one and
four teams are looking right now. No.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
I mean, as we've said in years past, super high floor.
It just gets frustrating sometimes when the floor is the ceiling,
you know, and so and these guys know that, and
it's they have designs on the postseason.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
So if you're.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Going in there feeding them their own news clippings, they're
batting it down because they know that December ball is
around the corner, and that's a whole different animal.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Jerry Doulack will join us at age forty five. Rob
came with a power hour of Steeler Talk coming up
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Speaker 7 (11:57):
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Speaker 6 (12:03):
I'm gonna jump ahead here. It turns out that.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
Arby's may not have the meats, or at least a
class action lawsuit in New York suggests so. In September
twenty twenty three, Joseph Alongis filed a class action complaint
against Arby's in the United States District Court, claiming that
Arby's engages in a widespread, systematic campaign of deceptive advertising

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when it comes to the quantity and quality of meat
in several of its signature sandwiches. To the plaintiff, the
brand is misleading consumers, enticing them to pay for a
product that is significantly less valuable than advertised.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
So when it comes to the quantity of the meat,
the suit.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
Alleges that the sandwiches features featured in the Arby's ads,
so you have to think about what you're actually seeing
when you see the ad campaigns. They feature at least
one hundred percent more meat than those purchased in the store,
which the plaintiff argues is false advertising.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Can switch exactly According to the platif, RBS achieves this
hyperbolic effect through several deceptive techniques, such as placing all of.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
The meat at the front.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Of the sandwich.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Front meat. What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
The meats in the front, The meat up in the front,
the front on a round sandwich whatever, in front of
the forever.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
It's facing the camera, it's the front of at the back.
There's not so up front. I got the front.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Button like go over.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Could be hitting it from the back. I'm just saying.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
You know, they use a lot of props to exaggerate
the size.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, got the meat.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
See what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I know some people are prone to do that.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
Maybe it's a little bun maybe just kind of your
butd big meat.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Just got they so they have like beef as envy
or something. That's what I'm saying, doctor and their beef.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, that's no good. You know, it comes in.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's just a big gelatinous slab that they unfreeze.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
And that's what I thought the lawsuit was that it's
just not even meat.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, it's like a meat like substance with like forty
percent meat in it.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
Well it is, I mean, like that's the thing when
you do see the commercials, it looks like kind of
like when you order a burger that you're like, oh,
I have to cut that in half. I won't be
able to eat that burger in one bite because they
do look stacked. I can't remember the last time I
got an RB's sandwich, but they're pretty compared.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
They're also delicious, and I like, I grew up on
the five or five's that was a that was our
dinner quite often back in the day, super cheap, and
our fridge always had a million Arby's packets in it.
And to this day, I gotta have Arby's packets in
my fridge because you never know someone might bring Arby's over.
And if there's not enough Horsey sauce or enough Arby sauce,

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then I'm just not gonna enjoy it always. And then
it also works at Halloween if you run out of candy,
you can just give some Arb sauce out.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
Put you out there.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Does that stuff ever go bad? Or is it like
from two thousand and two.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Then in your junk drawer, it's like a version of
a drunk drawer in junk drawer in my refrigerator where
it's just kind of like all the ancillary stuff, like
you need anything from takeout, yes, right, the equivalent of oh,
you need a Phillips head, it'll be in there.

Speaker 9 (15:38):
You know, soy sauce packets, all that kind of stuff,
but lots of Arby's sauce.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I don't know. I hope Arby's figures this out. I'm
a fan. Beef and cheddar is for me.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
If you're going all time top fast food sandwiches, beef
and cheddar might be above the quarter pounder for me.
And the quarter pounder back in the day was a staple.
But beef and cheddar is a little more exotic, a
little tastier.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
What is that little what's.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
That little like sweet and sour sauce they put on
the bottom? Nobody knows. Nobody knows, Nobody talks about it.
I don't tell you, they don't know.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Can we finally talk about it? Is that stomach acid
or is that the actual juice on the beef?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
And he's got the onions baked in on the top.
It's a it's a tremendous fast food sandwich.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
I grow up with it, so I don't have I
don't feel like I have a strong opinion about it.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I understand that as we.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Kid and you know me too. And the Dave single,
just a classic single.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Cheese. Get two of those, a chili and a frosty
lights out.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Arby's making a couple of junior bacons too. Arbie's main
problem the fries, the fries, curlies.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
You don't like the curlies.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
We were never cooked long enough for me.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
They would always be like that, what is that old bay?
I hate that too.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
I am my in the seasoning. I wanted them in
the fryar a little longer.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, a lot of times, Chris Beer a little mus
year because they'd be frozen when they put them in,
you know, and they when they're all curled up, it's
like really icy in the middle.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
And didn't they try to straighten their fries at one point?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
They did, but they're like, we got to clean this up,
straight straighten our fries out, and everyone's like, what the
hell are you doing?

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Curl those?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Let those be naturally curly. Put those back in the bay.
That's old anyways. Sure I could use a little more
beef in my beef and cheddar. I hope this, this
class action lawsuit doesn't.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I love this take the knees out.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
RBS has said, I mean they did.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
They're filing to dismiss this lawsuit, saying that it's a
non actionable puffery.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I just picture Arby's lawyers eating Arby's while they're arguing, you.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Know what, Somermer is wrong with you? You don't know
about you, Arby's.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
We have some of the meats, it's not as much
maybe as we show in the commercial. I mean, none
of the commercials for any of the fast food looks
like what it looks like on TV.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
The Wendy's you get versus what you see on tape.
I mean it looks like a Tasorrow's burger on TV
and you get there and it's smushed.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
Down and it's But there are other countries where this
is illegal to do. Like things have to be counted
out like and it has to the product has to
look exactly as it is advertised.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I gotta I gotta text Connor and ask him what
Connor our driver from Dublin. Yes, because he was telling
me in Dublin craft singles cannot advertise themselves as cheese
because it's not cheese. And I'm like, that's not cheese.
I'm like, I mean not according to the American grocery stores.

(18:43):
And I forget what he said it was, but it
made me laugh because it's not it's not cheese. Yeah,
and you know what cheese, Jason, it's cheese like it's.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
I was asking that question to him, like is it casin?
What's in it? What's in the cheese? Connor, I'm looking
up tell us Connor. I can't believe Connor is not
listening right now and texting us immediately. He should be.
He might be. It's like six hours ahead, he should
be up.

Speaker 9 (19:08):
No.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
I I kind of remember being a little buzzed and
outside of this conversation and having it slices sentient and
fully having the conversation.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
We just don't know past.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Your eyes prepared cheese product. Cheese product.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
That's the loophole. That's how they get you.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I don't know I had, but it's like separated out
from all the real.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Do you have an egg sandwich without putting American cheese
on it?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Like breakfast sandwich?

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 9 (19:40):
I gotta have the mlty American on it right, it's
too dry. Other words, I don't even on a cheeseburg.
I'll throw Swiss on a cheeseberger. I don't mind Swiss
on it. If I'm going Mayo do provolone. I've been
doing a little pepper.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Jack on a burger.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
A lot of people like the pepper jack.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
A lot of people like monster cheese with mushrooms, and
that to me is really messing with the burger.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
I don't like that's it's getting a little outside of
my comfort zone. But I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
But like a nice mushroom burger. I'm rooting for Arby's.
Let's just close it up by say that.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Hey, listen, I always am yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Look well, all men, all alls fails, you can count
on Arby's. I'll light a candle for.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Arby's, a meat candle.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Light it up, because a meat candle.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
We have the meat candles.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
Now, we're talking goop pleasant with times of clouds and
sun today high A.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Sixty eight meat candle sounds dirty. Did you see the
last night at the UH the Mariners game that there
was you know, cal Raley, big dumper, hit a sixty
second home run last night. There was a guy behind
home plate with a shirt on that had a butt
plug with cal Rawley's name on it. He was a
Blue Jays fan, indicating like, let's stop.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Let's plug the big dumper.

Speaker 9 (20:53):
Yes right, wow wow wow, yike yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Right on National TV all night long. What's then couch
eyes that like engage with him. He's like, you better
bring bring a bigger butt plug whatever. Man, the shirt sucks.
You're gonna need a bigger butt blow that makes me
le size queen. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
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Cincinnati for Thursday Night football, where it will be Mike
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coverage at six fifteen and an eight to fifteen kickoff
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of Steelers dock here, before we get out of here.
It does bear mentioning that with Penn State firing James
Franklin midseason, it's something that was unforeseen previously, Like you

(22:16):
would never ever expect Penn State to do something.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Like this, playoff aspirations, national title aspirations.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
The game has fundamentally changed.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
College football is a completely different sport than it was
ten years ago. And the idea that you would pay
someone to go around fifty million dollars to just walk away.

Speaker 10 (22:37):
According to mL Football, that breaks down to for the
next six years for James Franklin.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yes, I've heard forty six. I've heard fifty six. What
is it? It's forty nine, I believe.

Speaker 10 (22:48):
But according to mL Football, he's going to make for
the next six years fifteen dollars a minute, nine hundred
and thirteen dollars an hour, twenty one nine seventeen dollars
a day, one hundred and fifty three eight hundred and
forty six per week, and six hundred and sixty six
thousand per month.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Now to not coach.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
If he goes back to coach somewhere. Does that nullify
the payment? Does he have to sit out the whole time?
Is it a non compete or is it a concurrent
with whatever deal he might sign somewhere else.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
If it was pro, it would even out. I'm not
sure how it works in college. I don't think they
have that same deal. I think he just gets it.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
That's just crazybod who was the previous record holders of
mac down in Texas?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Oh, the buyout guy? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Did the Raiders have to pay Gruden? Well, they're about
to pay him gay time. Well, I know he's about
to get paid by the NFL. Yeah, but remember they
signed him for like ten years, one hundred mil or something.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I'm sure there was something there in buyout form when
that whole thing went down, but this being so much
different than hearing that Adidas was behind it. But that
deal doesn't go in effect till next year. Like next
year is this year?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's still all night? Why did you lose your quarterback?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Go on the pro shop or the college shop? I
guess for Penn State, here's my question about college football.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Now.

Speaker 10 (24:12):
It used to be the coach was king because he
was the guy who would get the players, right, Yeah,
people would want to go to Alabama to play for
Nick Saban because he was all that. If you don't
have an endless supply of millions of dollars available, would
you rather pay a coach ten twelve million a year

(24:33):
for six years or fifteen million or what some of
these guys are making, or would you rather hire a
young coach who knows his stuff but isn't really established and.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Just buy them players? I mean, where do you put
your resources? I think that you try to find happy medium. Really,
you don't load up one side or the other the
expense of the other.

Speaker 10 (24:58):
Bill Belichick the latest to prove that right there. If
you don't have a really good quarterback, you're not that
good of cooking. Yeah, you know, could speak to that
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I do.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I don't love what this does to college football. Though
it does, I can't stand dilute the product considerably. And
I am also of the mindset that I think the
players should be getting paid, and I think that they
should have some you know, autonomy over their own college experience.
And I know you feel a little differently and think
that the education is the payoff.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
They just generate so much money.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I think there had to be some sort of equitable
solution there.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
It might have overcorrected. I don't think this is it.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, and it's going to be interesting to see what
happens at Penn State now and the idea that Penn
Staters think that anybody like that they have their.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Choice, you know, like, oh, well, Signette's gonna come here.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Now, why would he want to go to Penn State?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Why? Yeah, Jacob's doing the big He's doing the Dolphin. Yeah,
the studio number three team in the country. You might
win the national championship in Indiana? Yeah, why would you
go to Penn State? Mark Cuban went to India. They
got money out the wazoo.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
They just never really were trying at football till they
got Signetti Penn State.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
But oh, I would question that. Indiana. Yep, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (26:18):
Indiana's sleeping giant in terms of the alumni base and
how much money. Those people have a lot of money
in corn. Apparently that's good to know. I mean it's
in everything.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 10 (26:30):
But actually their eye was the corn and they're the
granite and cutting stones and right, Jake, would you major
in stone cutting.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Corn?

Speaker 3 (26:40):
In Indiana, but they have the Indiana limestone. That's yeah.
You guys make those really nice looking buildings. Yeah, it's beautiful.
Every building on campus has it yet, Jacob, you are
a rockhead. What did they do with the stones?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
So two weeks ago, James Franklin's Penn State team had
Oregon in over time with a lead, with a national
championship on their minds.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Cut to two weeks later, basically losses to.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Oregon u c l A A winless u c l
A and without a coach, with a gaslar coach coachless
and new Aiel's kid pops up like Doogie howserd and.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
With the game decoordinator how many million?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
And then they drop that one to Northwestern this weekend.
As bad as that is, I never thought.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
They were going to get rid of him.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
I really did not that he is, that he is gone.

Speaker 10 (27:41):
I thought the Northwestern game decided Okay, he's not coming back,
but right.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I didn't think it would be mid season.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
And also the fact that, like it is so just
this is how things are now that Penn State puts
out a big graphic like thanks Coach Franklin, It's like thanks,
just there's no thanks.

Speaker 10 (28:01):
That stuff is so stupid. Every team does that on
social media, it does trying to make themselves look magnanimously. Yeah,
cutting the guy's.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Head off, and look, it is a lot of money.
I don't know where he's gonna end up, James Franklin.
He'll get a job somewhere, maybe North Carolina, who knows.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Maybe that.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
And also, by the way, this has got Bill Belichick's
seat heating up even more because if Penn State is
willing to do that in the middle of the season,
North Carolina and their money people have to be looking
at each.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Other right now, going, hey, guys, what are we waiting for?

Speaker 10 (28:39):
Yeah, I mean I think that process has already begun,
which is why they put out statements to say right
that means it's begun.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
But you'll probably see Bill Belichick doing the NFL on
Fox before the end of this season. I think as
a result of Franklin getting fired, Like you said, if
the wheels.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
They ask him, his girlfriend steps in.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
It's like, we're not going to talk about She just
whispers to this see her like.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, what the hell can we ask you about? Yeah,
we're on the next week. We got to talk about this.
When we're doing the pre game. I want to talk
about an that's crazy though.

Speaker 10 (29:15):
It's the Franklin's up until these last couple of weeks.
The splits of beating everybody you're supposed to beat and
never beating anybody good are ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yet, like, it doesn't add up.

Speaker 10 (29:29):
It shouldn't be that profound a gap, and yet, and yet.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
And then you have the Drew Aller situation out for
the season, didn't come out last year. Then all of
a sudden, I don't know if you guys have seen
the text messages that came out.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I have not. What.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Oh my god, it's real. Oh, I mean, what do
you mean it's not real? Did you see a report
that those text messages are not real?

Speaker 3 (29:53):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Him talking to women on campus? The type of things
that he's saying. Oh, I mean, it's just not a
good look.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's not like he's going to jail or anything.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
It's just that he's, you know, sending some explicit messages
to to the females on campus. I mean, the guy
runs the hurry up offenses all getting rid.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Uh, we just met he runs the hurry up offense.
I'm not seeing like I'll show you. No, I want
to see them. It was a prompt when I put
in Drew hours. Is he like showing wang or is
he no?

Speaker 4 (30:35):
No, No, it's more what he's requesting to see. And
you know he's drawing up plays in the sands.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Okay, yeah, well interesting, all right.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
We got a power hour of Steeler talk coming up
with Rob King in the nine o'clock hour, and more
Steeler talk with Jerry Dulac when we come back. Steeler's
sitting pretty after another well another victory over the Browns
Insburg and that's the twenty second in a row.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, it's kind of a weird split too, it is.
Although that's stuff to me. I mean it's fun to
talk about.

Speaker 10 (31:09):
But I don't know that you think it's five years
ago applied to yesterday, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Just a coincidence, big quinc quinki inc Well, I mean
it kind of just like the way it's supposed to be.
I bet the Browns have lost a lot of games
in a lot of places.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
That's a good point, you know what I mean. I
don't think it's like this name of this cre a
lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, what's their record in Baltimore for instance, probably not
great Steelers taking on the Bengals Thursday night, a short
week for them, and I get that win and go
to five to if they can get a victory there,
and go to five and one, uh and host another
AFC foe AFC North foe. Well, I mean it would
really be hard for them to screw up losing the

(31:48):
division after that.

Speaker 10 (31:49):
Can we have a brief moment of silence for me
that I'm doing the postgame show now and I don't
travel anymore, so I do not get to go to
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Speaker 6 (31:58):
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Speaker 11 (34:18):
How are you morning, random, I'm great.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
How about you well, I mean doing pretty good and
you know. Mike Tomlin famously on this here radio program
The DV Morning Show, exclaimed in the preseason that this
defense had a chance to do some things that were historic. Well,
it took a while to get ramped up, but I
think what we saw yesterday, Now granted this was not

(34:40):
exactly the most high powered offense in the world, but
they are basically imposing their will on the other team
with both sides of the of the line in the trenches.
They are winning it in defensively. That was what we
were worried about early on quich John Judkins. They had
him at ninety yards the odds makers yesterday is the
over under.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
He didn't even sniff that. Jerry.

Speaker 11 (35:04):
Yeah, you know, you look at the last two games,
and you know, okay, I know they had those leaky
moments in Ireland the last quarter, their last half of
the quarter, but for three and a half quarters they've
dominated the Vikings, and defensively they did pretty much the
same again yesterday. You know, the last two games, twelve sacks,

(35:24):
thirty quarterback hits. You know how many quarters. That's a
lot of quarterback hits, a couple takeaways, you know, one
hundred and thirty five yards rushing they've allowed combined. That's
the most since Week seven, a few of since Week
seven last year. And you know, not allowing a touchdown.
And again I know, you know, I know, it's the Browns.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Mike God.

Speaker 11 (35:45):
They ran seventy five plays. Could you imagine that offense
running seventy five plays. I don't know how that happened.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Fifty two drop passes for Dylan Gabriel in his second game,
first game in the States.

Speaker 11 (35:58):
Yeah, fifty eight back attempts and a sack six times,
so he threw fifty two. But the defense, and here's
the other thing though too. They're playing with an aggression
and kind of nastiness and speed which you hadn't seen,
and maybe it takes time that we haven't seen in
the first couple games. I think it also helps that

(36:19):
they had their whole deployment of defenders available for the
first time as well. But it's the speed and aggression
that they're playing with. I mean, Patrick Queen, yes, you know,
I remember last year what's wrong with Patrick Queen? But
you know, look at him, there's nothing wrong with Patrick Queen.
It's just a matter of getting comfortable in your new
environs and he's just been he's been a terror out there.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
One of the ways in which they made history yesterday,
Jair was that they announced twelve players on defense, announcing
Nick Herbig.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
I've never seen it before.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Totally deserved because I don't care where you have that
guy on the depth chart. He's a starter, he's a contributor,
he's an energy bringer, he's a game wrecker.

Speaker 11 (37:02):
Wow, that's a lot of adjectives. But you're right about that, Billy.
But I've seen I've seen him introduce additional players before.
I I don't know, you know, whether it was offensive,
I've seen that happen, But nonetheless, that is historic to me.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Damn it.

Speaker 11 (37:27):
Little tribute, A nice little tribute though, for her, but
he certainly deserves it. He leads a team in facts
at four and a half, and uh yeah, I mean
he is, he's a game wrecker and everything else that
you called him, Billy, He's been very very good.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know now friar Mouth only gets targeted once yesterday,
and right off the bat you see Darna Washington make
a huge contribution. It really does seem that, as much
as Mike Toma wants to say, hey, that jumbo package
is about when you play four three teams, you got
to have some some some big hosses out on the
end there, this guy.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Can do it all. I mean, what do they need
Mooth for other than depth?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
At this point, it's like, all right, we're paying him,
but in the aggregate, it's worth it to have him
in Washington. Anybody who says, like get rid of fire
Mooth and like, man, we're still gonna need him. But
it looks like, you know, Darning Washington made a fantastic
catch for a first down yesterday on top of that
opening thirty six yard reception. It really does look like

(38:24):
the Arthur Smith offense and Aaron Rodgers lean more to
using Darnell Washington moving forward than Mooth despite the price tag.

Speaker 11 (38:34):
Yeah, I don't know that they're necessarily going to lean
that way. But a couple of things. One, when when
Darnell Washington was in Georgia, you saw him catch the
ball and run with the ball, when I was always
a little surprised they didn't use him more when he
first got here. Second of all, I loved that play
call to start the game. You come out with your

(38:56):
heavy package, you know, same thing you did last week.
I mean and Ireland nineteen appearances for for Spencer Anderson
and then and then you run that play action throw
the Darnell Washington onto that package. To me, that set
the tone for the play calling. It's it's like it,
you know, I don't want to say it kept the
Browns off balanced the rest of the game, but I

(39:16):
thought Arthur Smith did a great job with the play calling.
It was it was smooth, it was rhythmical, and I
think Aaron Rodgers that you know, he'd you know, his
numbers aren't gaudy, but they're pretty solid, and you know,
two hundred and twenty five yards, twenty one and thirty
no picks, and and you know in the last two games,

(39:37):
he's only been sacked two times in the last three games,
and that's testament to the offensive line and all the
people complaining proud they gotta fire Pat Meyer. You know,
you don't hear anybody complain about the offensive line the
last three games. Nobody mentions Broderick Jones other than the
fact he was pretty good yesterday against Miles Garrett. I
know they gave him some help, but there were instances
where he was still there by himself, and you never

(39:59):
heard Miles gar It's name. For the most part.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Rogers did make one mistake yesterday, and which you know,
that's pretty good ratio, but not throwing the ball at
was it Warren or Gainwell's feet on that one where
he like dish it to him and they took an
eight yard loss.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Oh yeah like that.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Other than that, pretty smart. He missed a couple of
receivers yesterday. Well that's gonna happen, and you know dk
he underthrew and the other time he either threw the
back shoulder to inside or underthrew it and hit the
It was a campbell that he hit in the back
on that one. Regardless, Aaron Rodgers has been everything that
they want him to be.

Speaker 11 (40:36):
Yeah, you know, I asked Rogers when he was leaving
his little postgame interview about that deep ball to Metcap
And I got a kick out of it, because, you know,
he threw a little he threw a little moon ball
there and it came up woefully short. And when he
was after it came was incomplete, he kind of looked
up at the top of the stadium. I think he's
looking for the wind direction. And I asked him, I said,

(41:00):
I said, did the wind for you there? He said
he actually thought it was blowing the other way, but
you could just see it. It just it kind of
knocked his ball.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Dog.

Speaker 11 (41:09):
I was going to ask him, why why didn't you
throw up a couple of blades of grass to see
which way the wind was blowing and except there weren't
any blades of grass.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Well, let's talk about that for a second. Why does
that Why throw it?

Speaker 6 (41:22):
TJ.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Watt was pointing to the divots at one point, Boswell,
I mean he could have got injured on that one.
Sean Sweezum knows all about that. Uh, why is that
field in such terrible shape?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
You know what? Eight days after the last time there
was a football game on it?

Speaker 11 (41:38):
Well, the good news for bos is that the ground
gives way, it doesn't grab. I'm like a sweem, So
that was the only good part about that. But I mean,
you know, the Steelers hadn't what they played there once
since the preseason. That's the Pits played there how many
times in the middle of the field was just terrible
And obviously they're carrying it up now that was the

(41:58):
plan all along, but it was it was in poor shape,
and to me, it's kind it's kind of embarrassing to
see the field like that in October when it's still
a growing season. Obviously, so you know they did. They
they probably waited, you know, a week too long to
resurface the field. They're doing it now, but you know,
it just it looked terrible. It played terrible. Uh you know,

(42:21):
Aaron Rodgers said it was borderline unplayable.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
And it was Jerry.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Last week you said the Steelers were going to approach
Jihn Ramsey's injury the same way as JPJ and expecting
him to be out as long. He ended up playing
this week, much to the surprise of everyone. How did
that end up happening? Where we went from well, he's
probably going to be on ice for a month to
he'll be there for the next game.

Speaker 11 (42:44):
Yeah, they they they had him on a pitch count
yesterday and and I never did see his total number
of snaps, but he played, you know, Aaron Rodger.

Speaker 10 (42:53):
Three, It's crazy, what that sixty three.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
That's a prety high pitch.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
Out and they Aaron Rodgers was singing his praises. What
he did not only to just make sure he could
try to play, was the fact that he played all
that time. And you know, we saw him come off
the field one time where he kind of aggravated that
injury and then there he goes back in the game,
you have to give the guy props for what he did,

(43:22):
not only just playing, but then the way he played
on top of it. And you know, any other like
Aaron Rodgers was saying, he says, eighty percent of other
guys in the league probably would have said I'm not
going to play this week just to take care of
that injury. And yet there he was sat out all week,
but practiced the last day and was out there on

(43:43):
the field. So I can tell you they did not
expect him to be able to play, and there he was.
Good for him.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, especially with the short week coming up here Thursday night,
Steelers Bengals Thursday Night Football, and Jerry will be on
the pregame along with Mike Pursuda and Bob Labriola. That
gets going at six fifteen when they crank up the
network before that eight to fifteen kick off with Rob King,
Max Starks, and Missy Matthews.

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Speaker 3 (44:11):
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Speaker 11 (44:12):
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