October 13, 2025 • 40 mins
Rob King joins us live in studio for a power hour to give a full recap of the Steelers 23-9 victory over the Browns.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nah back looking at Gabriel is going to be taken down.
There's a flag on the play, but it looks like
this is going to be against the Browns. I don't
know which of the four Steelers laying on top of
Gabriel is going to get credit for this sack.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh yeah, a little party on top of a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And characterization Rob King, voice of the Steelers with us
for a power hour of Steeler talk here and six
sacks for the Steelers defense they were suffocating all day.
Deli Gabriel back to pass well fifty eight times with
six sacks.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That is just a bunch of urries. I wrote it
down here somewhere how many hurries they had? Hurries and sacks.
Six tongue hits, yes, yeah, I see it hits that, Yeah,
it hits not hurries hits yeah, sixteen hits big sacks. Well,
the kid took took a little bit of a beating.
Welcome to the AFC, North Till and Gabriel. Yeah, and
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I thought he actually held up pretty well. Although the
Steelers had about five interceptions they dropped well, what I
would say is well they the Browns also had five
first downs that they dropped.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I mean true.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You know, they dropped a lot of balls for Dylan
Gabriel yesterday. And what I would say is, if you
were wondering, like, does Dylan Gabriel look like he has it,
I don't know. I don't think you can say he
doesn't have it based on that yesterday. But they did
not give him a chance to look like he could
be their next quarterback. The Steelers defense, that is. Yeah,
And the Steelers defense did a great job on Quinn
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Shawn Judkins. You know early in the year, they weren't
stopping to run. Derek Carmon comes back and he's part
of it. The defense is playing better as part of it.
All eleven starters being out there for the first time
is part of it. So we're seeing the Steelers. You know,
last year, people like, how come they're not blitz anymore?
They're just lining up in the same spot. Well, I think, again,
this is just nobody's told me this, but I think
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they just didn't trust their defensive backs so they wanted
to drop as many guys as they could in coverage. Well,
this year they're blitzing at a really high level, one
of the highest rates in the NFL and they are
getting home and they're stopping to run. They're forcing teams
to be one dimensional. Judkins is you didn't see it yesterday,
but he is really good the rookie running back. We
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talked about it earlier, Kinger. The oddsmakers had him at
it like an over under ninety yards. They expected him
to make a dent in that. I mean, most people did.
We talked about it. It's like, just survive it and
stop the run, keep it manageable. And he did nothing
against that defensive Well, here's why they expected that.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Sixty one yards against Baltimore in the averaged six point
one per carry, ninety four against Green Bay, eighty two
against Detroit, one hundred and ten against.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Minnesota against Minnesota at.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Thirty six yesterday, and the average three point zero per total.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And that's my point is that for all the people
who just want to say, like, ah, well, I don't know,
the question marks are still there for the Steelers because
that was the Browns. They had an established running game,
like they it was looking good for them running the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Steelers completely took it away yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I you know, Aaron Rodgers said something that I
I've said quite a bit with Max on our radio show,
which is, look, December is when you want to be
playing best, and I totally agree with that. Just win now,
it doesn't matter how you win. Just just stack up
the wins and hope that some of the trends are
trending in the right direction so that you are peaking
in December. I think the trends for this year there's
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almost across the board are actually I would say across
the board right, let's go through them. Okay, Proderck Jones
and that offensive line is where the biggest question works
were way better. So Max said, you know, talking to Max,
I defer to him because he's an offensive lineman who
switched positions on the NFL level. So I said, look,
Broderick Jones has been a right tackle, now he's going
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to left tackle. Troy Foutana was a left tackle in college.
Now he's going to right tackle.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
How long?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And do I give fout Tana any grace for being
a rookie? He said, nope. He said, the adjustment from
one side to the other takes five to six weeks. Well,
we're five weeks into the season, and I think we're
seeing the offensive line being better and you know, I
don't I don't believe I said in reference to a
play Miles Garret, Miles Garrett's name once yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't think I said his name once.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I mean, that is remarkable. We really thought he was
going to have a field day out there. Now Rogers
still getting rid of the ball pretty quick. But there
were a couple of times, in particular the Connor Hayward touchdown,
or he had a lot of time and moved around
and then made a little chicken salad out of you
know what. Then what a great throw and I mean
I was just a great throw by Rogers. Let's listen
to the play by play by the voice of the
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Pittsburgh Steelers on that one.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That would be uh rob king play action pass.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Rolling to his right, looking downfield, looking throws back across
his body.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Hit talk in the end zone. What a crap by
Connor Hayward.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Magnificent grow by Rodgers and Hayward with his first touchdown
of the season. It's so funny that that was your call,
because that was exactly what we said in the stands
in that.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Order we got to catch What a throw.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, both were sensational, you know, not every diving catch
or sliding catch is a great catch. That was a
great catch. I mean he had a bullet. It was
a bullet, It was low. I don't remember if it
wobbled a little bit. All those things make it tougher.
A defender crashing back over the top of them, which
cuts down your vision a little bit. I was just
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a that was a great catch. And you know, as
Rogers said after the game, you know Connor Hayward just
smart player. I mean there are times when Rogers is
rolling down the field when he wants his receivers to
do something. They've got to feel it. They've got to
know what to do. And Connor Hayward knew what to
do because he's that kind of a player, all right.
And Aaron Rodgers had time to make that offensive line
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doing their job. We talked about the defensive line also
stepping up and trending in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What about the inside linebackers?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Listen, I've never been I haven't been as down on
them as other guys have been. I mean, Patrick Queen
made the Pro Bowl last year and I thought he
was extremely visible. Peyton Wilson is He's all over the field. Now,
are things going to happen. You know, sure, he is
not a He is not a you know, meet you
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in the hole, you know, pick you up and drive
you back into the ground kind of linebacker. He's not
a big thumper. He's a sidelined to sideline guy. And
so is Patrick Queen. Which is why your front four
or front five has to be able to do its job,
because by doing its job, it allows those guys to
run and hit guys. And so I think with the
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defensive line being better, that's only gonna make Queen and
Wilson better. I mean, these guys in Cole Holcomb too.
I thought Cole Holcomb had some plays yesterday. These guys
can move. I mean, you want to go wide. I
mean there was a play I can't remember who had.
It was going up there was the left side line.
It was a little pass I think it was a
pass out in the flat. Might have been a reverse,
I don't remember now. And it looked like the player
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was gonna the carrier for Cleveland was going to turn
the edge and he just he just didn't. He was
stopped that I think they lost a happy yard. I
thought they were going to gain six, and they lost
half a yard. So you know the defensive line. It
all comes together, right, the defensive line does its job,
then the linebackers are able to do their job, and
now you get into third and management. You got those
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defensive backs are finally healthy. They're going to get a
great test this week. Okay, Now we're gonna go man
to man and we're gonna blitz those linebackers. Remember Patrick
Queen was a guy who got sacks in Baltimore. He
wasn't getting sacks here. Why because you you didn't feel
like you could blitz him. Now you got Sleigh Ramsey
and Porter. You got Deshaun Ellie, you got jan Thornhill,
let's go you know ecles.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, after that yesterday, I don't know, and I don't
know about was there anything on Miles Killer?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But I haven't heard anything significant According to Tomlins significant,
that was the only one. The rest was bumps and
bruises associated with the playing of football.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's a bummer.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
One other point on those inside backers, I think what
you've seen in the last two weeks is they're up
closer to the line of scrimmageing gaps, and even when
they're not blitzing there, they're heavy residents. Yeah, and affecting
things that way, and then sometimes you can run blitz
from there. Those guys aren't downhill players per se, but
if you get a little closer to a lot of scrimmage,
they're already halfway downhill right now. You can Now you
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can shoot a gap and be more disruptive. Yeah, that's
a good point starting to fall into place.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
And p Q could have folded me because yesterday, in
the last couple of weeks, he's looked like a thumper.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers joked around with him on the
sideline that asking him if he was trying to knock
himself out.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I thought he was playing incredibly hard. Yeah, he's he's
more of a thumper than Peyton is. You know, He's
just he's a little physically bigger, you know, and he's
a little bit more of a thumper. But you know,
think about you know, just and you know, I've been
a little mystified. Look, you have to let these guys grow.
And our buddy Matt Williamson has said this repeatedly, and
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I really trust his opinion on these kind of things.
Inside linebacker is now and has been for several years.
The hardest position for a young player to excel at
that we that you see all kinds of form first
round picks. Devin Bush, he's playing much better in Cleveland
than he played here. It's not because the coaching wasn't
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good enough here, the defense wasn't good enough. It's it
just takes a while. Now the Swstinger kids, he's he's
one of these kids. It's excelling the inside linebacker for them.
But a lot of guys wash out and it takes
their second team for them to really get a hold
of the NFL. And that's it's I think it's because
the league has changed. Smart quarterbacks will look at those
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young players and exploit them. Right Aaron Rodgers is going
to exploit a young linebacker on the other side. Jalen
Warren yesterday ended up with fifty two yards rushing. But
I felt like he had an amazing game. He just
he he just runs so hard. He on his longest
run of the game, I think was his longest run
of the game he had. I think he had a
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ten and maybe a ten and a eleven. He was
running off the right side. He kind of slithered or slipped.
I think, you know, Aaron Rodgers called him slip. He
kind of slipped through a defensive tackle and and within
one step barreled over defensive back that came up and
then ran for you know, drag guys for another four yards.
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I mean, I've said this before about Jalen. Uh you know,
he just it really looks like he dislikes being tackled.
You know, he just doesn't enjoy it. And that's just
the way he runs. It doesn't look like it's enjoyable
to tackle. No, no, no, and and uh, you know talking,
I was talking to one of the Steelers defensive players.
Remember there was the big thing about Derrick Henry. You know,
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how hard does he run and all this other stuff,
and that guy said, uh, Jalen Warren, that dude runs hard.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah. And so keleb.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Johnson looked like maybe he took another step forward yesterday.
I mean their baby steps. They trusted him. Yeah, their babysit.
You don't have to he's this is.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean, you remember like Troy Polamla's rookie year, he
was not very good. Do you recall that. No, yeah,
here's the is not very good.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But there were not many Steeler fans who watched Troy
Polamalu that year and didn't think.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
He's going to be good.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Oo.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I don't know, man. There were a lot of critics
to Troy pull. I don't know, man, I think everybody.
I mean, I specifically remember having this conversation with Mike
weekend and week out, like you can see that you
know he's figuring this out and he's a freak athlete.
Caleb Johnson, I mean, they were errors of comission that
he was making. A lot of the time, you see
a flash of hair on your TV and you'd be like,
what the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, yeah, But Caleb Johnson, I mean just was not
able to do anything in the preseason and took a
little while, and it seemed like their plan was, oh, well,
he's just going to replace Naujy. I don't think many people,
I certainly didn't anticipate the trust and reliance they'd haven't gain. Well,
that has definitely enabled them to get what they needed
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out of the backfield to this point, but going forward,
I think you still need Caleb Johnson to keep making steps.
So yes, So here's to look. They signed Jaalen warrened
to what it was three year contract extension. What does
that tell you he's their guy? Yeah, money though, King No,
but but but you know a low starter money, right,
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I mean, you know it keeps it on the back.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Money.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Hey, keep battling kid. They I mean, they drafted Johnson
for the long haul, sure, but they don't need him
to be the long haul guy right now, not right
this second. Right, and we look around in December, I
think you're gonna need to see him being.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The guy they thought they drafted.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You think he's going to be an eighteen carry guy
in December, because I don't. I mean, my guess is
he's going to be six to eight carries a game.
That's that's what I think he's gonna win. I think
he's going to be impactful in games by then.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I don't know what that means in terms of carries.
But they're sort of bringing him along a little bit.
And he's had a couple of nice runs, a couple
three plays where you see a little burst. But he's
gonna have to start impacting games eventually for them to
be the team they need to be.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's becoming the backup running back is becoming like the
backup quarterback and it's I mean, look, man, I defend
the Nagy for years I defend I'm like, look, man,
I like the way he runs. He runs harder. People
like Jayalen Warren should be getting all the carries. Now
Jayen Warren's getting all the carries. I'm defending him, and
they're saying Caleb Johnson should be in here.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Welcome to Pittsburgh. Did you have starter bias? What it is?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You referred to dk metcalf, I did as to Kalin
his real name. Now, explain a little bit of the
story behind this. If he had his brothers, we'd all
be calling him that.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I went up to him. I created my own conundrum.
Well done, Rob, No, no need to do this. But
I went up to him and I said, hey, is
there any circumstance in which you would like to be
called the Kalen which is his given name, And he
said I prefer it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I was like, what what?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He goes, Yeah, everybody they just can't pronounce it properly.
And I started to say no, he goes, no, No,
you got to write it's to Kalan. I'm like, okay,
so you would like to be called to Kailin? He said, yeah,
if I had my brothers you.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'd like to be called. So now I walk away
and on has he seen like the mirror what I
wanted to ifders just abide, I got to said, if
you do something, I'll call you to Kalen.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
All right, I don't know if I said if you
do something, I was going to do something. I said,
I said, should I I'll call you to Kalen.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
He goes, okay, you know. So I was like, now
what have I done?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm creating my own problem because everybody knows him as DeKay.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Where did you see that in the first place? His
name to Kalen?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, it's it's it's research, Trent Jordans to Kalen Trent
Jordan's anyway, what Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It's not on Seattle's media site, it's not on Pro
Football Reference.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I don't know. I don't know. Just the hard weekly research,
just that aggressive that Yes, that is impressive. But so
I now now I'm now I'm stuck. I'm stuck. I
don't know what to do. You call him dk okay,
you call him to Kailin when he's in trouble. The
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Kale dragged that back foot to Kiln. Yeah, all right, okay,
the bad stuff. I really was like, what do I do? Yeah, okay,
you gotta call him. He can't explain every time.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, No, that's true. That's true. You know that's true.
I created my conundrum, but he's got me out of
it thanks.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I know.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
He's had a few issues with some drops here and there,
unbelievable catch down the sideline, the late hands and one
first down pitch and catch on the slugo for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yep, and he had he had an easy touchdown. And
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Aaron Rodgers had two throws that I've seen him make
every time that he didn't make this time. He's rolling
out to his right, had Darnault Washington over shot him. Look, man,
nobody's perfect right, but then he had to kaling down
the left sideline.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
He was killing. Yeah, I just said it right there.
Dk He had him wide.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Open and underthrew him for Rodgers empty set, gets the snap,
Brown's bringing four Rogers lofts up the right sideline, tumbling
grab by to Caln Metcalf, I said, I think I
said it every time he caught them ball.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I was looking at mad, so I'm like I don't
know what to do, man, I don't know whether to
the right underneath.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Has Metcalf this time Metcalf racing up the right sideline
that can knock down at the twenty one yard line.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Big game for Metcalf, first down for the Steeler on
Metcalf didn't know what to do. Something didn't know it.
There's probably in an indifference land right there.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Rogers gets a snap back to pass looking pump fixed
the right now, wants to go to Metcalf, has him
in the angel touch down to Carolyn.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Metcalf, Yeah, touchdown.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
See if Alvaro called him to kalenbe it is definitely
the game was Adam be.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Th boy, Oh cut the sound he look on see
and I see that faste go Giga Medcalf lspass all,
what'd you go? I think he said it made it
look easy? Did I did? I hear the word easy
in there? Boy.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But that first it was like over the campbell just
fell perfectly. I thought it was out of bounds. And
I don't know how he ended up catching that one
because it was late and arriving.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
He's really good.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
They're both he's really you know, we're seeing we're seeing
Why with Pickens, who's a super talented guy.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Why they went out and got this guy. There's a
reason he's here, there's a reason he's I know he's
a pain in the ass, but I wish we had Pickens.
I think he'd be a manageable pain in the ass
on this team.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, the only thing I wonder about is Rogers
is so demanding on these guys being precise. And if
Pickens wasn't going to be precise, which he ain't never
been yet, Yeah, that wouldn't have worked.
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We heard Kinger's expert call of the improvised Aaron Rodgers
to Connor Heyward touched down. The player kind of got
the Steelers going. It was nine to three as still
anybody's game. Second half, and then they got that i
think four tuitous call on the running into the punter
which extended the possession and they end up taking advantage
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of that break and sticking the ball in the end zone.
Here's Rogers talking about how that play developed.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, just keep her to the right.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Jalen had a great block.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
I think it was Jalen cut the guy, and I
just kind of continued out, the first look is in
the flat, second's kind of the DK on the backside,
and Connor's really kind of a clear out route. Though
we got a similar play against the Jets in Week
one to Calvin for a touchdown. Different formation, kind of
different thing we're doing, So I just got out there.
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Connor's a really smart player, and I just kind of like,
either you were DK, when do you guys see this
and go that way? And Connor did to put a
decent ball on him in a nice kitchen.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I'm listening to the way that he talks about his teammates.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It's incredible third option and best on that play, right,
And then I'm waiting for somebody to see what I'm
seeing And got to call. In a postgame show last night,
somebody asked, is it possible that Rogers is starting to
get more comfortable? No, it wasn't a postgame show. It
was Tomlin was asked about this in his postgame press conference.
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You know, Aaron Rodgers twenty one years in the league,
but is it possible he's still adjusting to Pittsburgh and
starting to get more comfortable here?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And Tomins said absolutely, there's.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Every expectation that should continue as he gets to know
his teammates even better and they play more games together
and they have more experience and helmet together. They're not
top end yet, they're four and one. A lot of
arrows are pointing up, but they can continue to improve.
It's going to be fascinating to see if they can
do so and at what rate. And then I wanted
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to detail this hour one of my favorite plays of
the game. You guys remember the little push past Rogers
scrambling and he shoved it ahead yep to Jalen Warren.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's an incredible play.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That was starting three from the Pittsburgh twenty eight and
the details of that play are incredible. Miles Garrett's on
right defensive end, where he spent almost the entirety of
the game. The whole offensive line blocks right away from Garrett.
I guess the play was initially supposed to go to
the right side, So Garrett's coming off the edge, Jalen
Warren has to pick him up one on one, backs
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on backers. Baby Warren sticks his face in the fan
and rocks him. He didn't knock him down, but he
stood him up and knocked him back temporarily, so Garrett's
trying to recollect himself. Rogers is going right, and then
he loops back to the left, so Garrett's chasing him.
Here comes Broderick Jones off of his guy. Seeing what's
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going on behind him, Warren makes him runs ahead and
makes himself available just in case Rogers needs an outlet.
And Broderick Jones gets just between Garrett and Rogers. Doesn't
really knock him down either, but he cuts them off,
and then Rogers shoves the little pass to warn first down.
Another kind of improv play, hustle play they're making. Rob
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talked earlier today about how vicious they're playing and how
hard they're hitting, their their engagement since that Minnesota game
has been through the roof little stuff, big.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Tam Wilson, chase down. They're playing for every play. Yeah,
I look forward to seeing what they can do against Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, it was a big question for me going into
this game because you didn't have the manufactured in tangible
of Oh, it's Ireland.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's for the Steelers, It's for DMR. Yeah, I heard
you saying that on the pregame. I mean I thought
that was a legitimate concern.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I talked to Cam Heyward about that last week and
he said, now we're just building building building where they
keep ramping it up. So far, so good Yesterday, Yeah,
you know it's gonna be hard to play Thursday in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
It did look like a team that kind of gave
up the Browns. Kinger, would you agree.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Gave up in terms? Well, I gave up is the
wrong work because I know NFL teams never really give up.
I don't know that they believe they could win. Well,
they were marching down the field, you know, with three
minutes left, and you know, they score a touchdown there,
they're winn seven. Right, they did march it into Steelers territory.
I just don't think they're I think they've got some
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serious deficiencies. I think they've got a really good defense,
and I and I think that's about it.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, they had a.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Lot of tackle issues yesterday. Offensive tackle issues. Yeah, their
tackles have been problematic. They got injured. I mean, they
got guys got banged up on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
How do you feel about the way the Steelers played
conservatively offensively and defensively With the lead, they're trying to
run out the clock at the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That was fine with it. There's a lot of people
kind of bitching about that, like we're you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Playing too soft on defense, and you know, you're running
Caleb Johnson three times into the line and punting and
then Corlis punts with nine seconds on the play clock.
Make sure you bleed it all the way down.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Look, this has been a common topic. And Mike tomlins
record in one score games is phenomenal. I mean, it's
most coaches are right around that five hundred mark. He's
well above that. It's probably close to two thirds winning percentage.
And you look around the NFL and you think, you know,
and I'm I will preface this by saying I'm not
a gamber.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I rarely look at the lines.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
But when you do, you think yourself to right, Okay,
so you think this team's gonna blow this team out.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But Mike, you back, they're rarely double digit lines in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Right, Bengals were minus fourteen and a half at Green
Bay yesterday and didn't cover, right.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So, but I mean, it's it's not common. Most of
them are single digits because most games are close. And
so you got you get a lead, you've got a
really good defense. Are there times where you think, Blad
I'd love to see him get one, be aggressive, get
one more score. But also with that comes maybe some
risk that you want to avoid when you've got a
good defense and.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You don't want to get anybody hurt.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
When the game's over, the game's over, just get out
of dodge. They rest in a lit lot of guys
on a short week. I mean, at the end of
that game, they were playing Peppers at safety. They were
playing James Pierre at cornerback. They were playing he looked
outside linebacker.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
They looked great.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
They were playing it, says a to Maywoll on the
defensive line. Uh, kinger to your point.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yesterday's finals Broncos Jets, one score game, Seattle's Jags at
Seattle Jags, one score game, Chargers Dolphins, one score game,
Cardinals Colts one score game, Panthers Cowboys one score game,
Patriots Saints one score game.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And uh, that's it. But that's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's a lot, and it happens all the time in
the NFL. And we're you know, look, this is the
beauty of rooting for a team is we all see
our own warts, right, We see much more clearly than
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Rob King. The day after the Browns victory, and I
have to tell you, I'm leaving that game yesterday and
I'm just thinking, I think how they won this oh tomorrow,
the rest of the week is just going to be
so much more delightful in Pittsburgh. Yes, since they won that. Now,
(26:56):
sitting atop the AF do you actually control the audio here?
I can, yeah, because I just think did it? So
all of us who have who have have a microphone on.
At some point you realize you have to stop talking
or you have to really really trust the audio guy.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
In the commercial break before you come on, he's just like, but.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Welcome back to DV. So if he didn't, if he
wasn't controlling, you are controlling the No. Actually, I was
trusting Jacob and I am putting too much trust.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You know Jacob.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
The content that I was spewing prior to that. But
Jake is drunk with who's your hysteria?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah? How about that?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
They Well, how about James Franklin getting fired? The most
unpen state like thing ever. I was telling these guys earlier.
Some guy made an announcement. I was in the bathroom
at the game yesterday. Some guy goes holy after they
fired Franklin. The entire bathroom was like, oh my god,
you know, and then all the you know, the the
(28:00):
peanut gallery yelling was going on.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
In there. But college football is just so fundamentally different now.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's hard for me to get my hands around what
exactly is happening there because I think it's out of
control is the word that kind of comes to mind.
It's just like they're doing much money that they're throwing
it all over the place, and it's making the game
like it seems like it is scattered. So it's it's
become pro football at a different level.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
And by the way, it's pro football if there was
free agency every year.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
With infrastructure right, and I think it underscores, you know,
people it was remember it was a big discussion point
should these guys be paid or not be paid? And
there are pros and cons and I understood that. But
I think we're seeing just how much money there is,
and but it proves.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
They should be paid. To me, it's just that I
think they overcorrected. I need.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I wanted to see something a little more equitable. But
what they are doing, the lack of structure that they
have right now, is making the game. It's diluting college football.
Way they didn't get they didn't out in front of it,
and they had the opportunity and there were people discussing
this for years and years and years, and they didn't
get out in front of it. And now it's you
can't put the toothpaste back in the tight it is.
(29:11):
I don't know what they're going to do. I hope
they can do something, because you know, I was talking
to a former college coach about, uh, you know about hey,
when when a guy, when.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
A guy would go to the pros, you'd get to
get drafted.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
He'd go up there and he'd like, you know, I'd
like to coach thank coach Dixon for for getting me
to the NBA. Now they're like, I'd like to thank
coach Jones, coach Smith, coach Dixon. I mean, you know,
five schools in four years.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah. Uh. Steelers.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
With a short week now and their second consecutive AFC
North game against the Bengals in Cincinnati on Thursday night,
they've got a chance to make some serious uh headway
here in some distance in the division if they get
two AFC North wins, keep knocking down these seas. I
don't know who Cleveland and Baltimore have this week. I
don't know if we could be okay so they can't lose.
(30:00):
I'm not sure who Cleveland has but it'd be great
if they lost another one. But although I'm not too
worried about them, I mean, it really seems like it
would be it's the Steelers division to lose should they
win on Thursday night. And I don't discount the Ravens
at any point, but I think you got to win
this game on Thursday night because it's very winnable.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I agree, you know there they have a they have
a puncher's chance.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You know they have Joe Flacco can pressed the ball
down the field, and he's a veteran guy, but he
has not looked particularly sharp. Two touchdowns yesterday. Yeah, he
didn't look great in Cleveland. I have yet to see.
I have not watched the Bengals game yet. That is
for later today.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
The one touchdown to Chase was one of the most
remarkable catches you'll ever say.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh, I can't wait to see it in traffic. So
Chase is phenomenal. Higgins is really good. This is why
you got those three corners games like this. This is
why you have Ramsey and slay An added him to JPJ.
They have a good group of tight ends. I really
think Chase Brown's a good running back. He has not
gotten stared it at all because their offensive line has
been an issue. Hendrickson can wreck a game by himself.
(31:04):
He got yet right his back. I don't know whether
he's gonna be able to play or not. If he
can't play, I mean they've they've spent first round picks
on two edge guys who I don't think have done
a whole lot in Stuart and uh and uh uh
Miles Murphy. Yeah, Miles Murphy was the guy they took
first last year. So you know they're they're they have
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you know, they have a decent secondary. You know, look,
it's it's we talked about this just a short time ago.
It's it's every game in the NFL. Right, So you
think about yesterday, five turnovers they could have maybe happened
for the Steelers. They don't get any if if those
if the ball bounces Cincinnati's way, could be an issue.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The line, the early line is Steelers minus five and
a half.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
If I'm Tomlin, I'm scaring these guys about Flacco and saying, hey,
look he beat us last year in Indy. Right, this
guy's not done. I know there's rumors of his demise,
but they might be a little early.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I think he's I saw this stat. I think
he's six and twenty two as a starter since he
left the Ravens. It hasn't been Now, some of that's
the quality of the teams he's been on. Im in
Cleveland's just not very good. But you know, look, he's
and anybody that's capable. It's like an old you know,
it's like George Foreman, you know, back in the day
they brought him out at you know, at forty six,
he could still knock you out, right, Joe Flacco was
still capable of having a good game. Speaking of knocking
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you out, I mean the way that those guys were
rushing the quarterback yesterday, and given how Swiss cheese this
Bengals offensive line is, it might be a tough day
for the old man. Yeah, and Mims has been a
little bit banged up at right tackle, So TJ. Watt's
got to be rubbing his hands together, ready to go.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Man, come out this.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Do you guys get the sense that this team that
the way they came out talking like they were going
to be the best defense in the NFL and then
let the Jets give him a game and then got
rolled by Seattle that that humility, the humbling there was
actually really good for them. And I don't think they're
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going to look past a Bengals team. I think that
they know how big this game is coming up this weekend.
Past years, I would wonder, like, are they gonna get
up for this crap?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Just this one?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Deshaun Elliott was talking about that yesterday and he was
asked about their relatively comfortable position and he said, what
we like eight and two?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Last year we bleeped the bed.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
So I love him.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think they're one at a time kind of about now.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, that's good because that seems to me to be
different from what they've been in the past.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And I think it's easy to.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Not overlook an opponent on a short week because it's
so immediate.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You got to get to work right now, right, you know?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I do. I would like to think that with Aaron
Rodgers at quarterback and you know, the defensive look. And
let's not forget too this last game was the first
time the entire starting eleven starting twelve with Herbig was
out there. Oh my goodness, gracious, has herbig been readible
that that's starting twelve? First time they've been available this week,
so they hopefully they'll be all available Thursday in Cincinnati
(34:09):
and moving forward. Yeah, Austin, any idea about his return, Mike, No, Well,
there was some Scott I game yesterday didn't play. I've
been here since.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I have no idea. I just didn't know if there
was anything. I don't know, That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
But Tomlin talks today. Because of the short week, maybe
he'll have an update today is Tuesday. Wasn't a schefter
who floated yesterday? The Steelers are going to be active
before the trade deadline. You anticipate if that were the case,
it's at receiver. I wouldn't be shocked. I mean, you know, look,
they'll they'll try to get better anywhere. I saw some
of the names out there, and I'm like, I wonder
who would fit here for the Steelers. You know, you're
just looking down the list, you know, depth pieces potentially,
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but George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
They look for a fourth, they look they look pretty deep,
and they look pretty good right now, the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
That's seen a lot of speculation, like, oh the Saints
are Saint's a good trader lave because they stak like
if you're gonna get any better. You want to have
good young receivers like, it's not their problem, right, No,
he's not their problem. I don't think you're getting the
lava for a fourth round compensatory pick.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, it's it's always what are you going to get? Right,
he's unavailable? Wait how much? Oh, he's available? Right, That's
just the way it goes.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Are they utilizing everybody they have? Kinger, I've been talking
about this the last couple of weeks. Pat Fryarmouth not
figuring into this offense is really bizarre to me.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So I think I was asked about this. I believe
this is going to be all season long, a matchup offense.
So we think we can run the ball and bully you. Okay,
you're gonna get a lot of Spencer Anderson and a
lot of Darnell Washington.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
We got to spread it out and throw it.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You're gonna get more Calvin Austin, Roman Wilson, Pat fryar Muth,
John Smith.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I just think that's the way it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I think that they they have enough flexibility to be
able to attack an opposing defense the way they want
to attack them and change within game because they've got
a wide variety of personnel.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Potentially good offense, bad fantasy team exactly. Yeah, that's a
good call, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
But I think a lot of Steelers fans thought of
him as somebody like a Travis Kelcey type ceiling to
his game, and I don't think when the Chiefs are
playing people, any opponent is going to factor him out
of the game.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
He's been extremely consistent throughout his grim and you can
pretty much pencil in for sixty sixty five catches when
he plays a full season. He's not on pace to
do that right now, but I can see a game
in which he's going to catch six seven balls for
ninety five yards. You just haven't had to do that.
I don't think you're gonna have to do it again.
Cincinnati either, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
By the way, really impressed with the Chiefs last night.
I mean that was a big win. They're only three
and three, but they're still the Chiefs. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Andy Reid might be the greatest coach alive. He might
in reck like when it's all said and done, sit great.
Do you mean like like a great lake, like great
size size?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But Belichick this you know, I know that Bill Simmons
and you know the Patrio triots a riff raffer, all
yelling oh nothing will ever but marks his legacy. I
disagree Brady's success after Belichick and then Belichick completely screwing
up his end of tenure in New England and then
(37:14):
embarrassing himself in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I don't think Andy Reid would ever do that.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
How good Drake may has looked, how good Mac Jones
has looked in San Franz.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Dude, Yeah, who did he have coaching Mac Jones? A
bunch of idiots who should have never been coordinators quarterbacks
coaches like Belichick was. You couldn't question anything he did
there for so long, and he was making terrible mistakes.
I just I just wonder if that conversation is now. No,
Andy Reid is a better coach than Bill Belichick. Despite
the championships.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, do you look at Andy Reid's previous to Kansas
City run which, yeah, Philadelphia was really good, but it
could never win a big one. There doesn't matter, Oh no,
it matters who is his quarterback. It matters who was
his So it's all tied to the quarterback. Well, this
is what I'm saying did you have menab for a while?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
M him? Was Belichick going to the AFC Championship without
Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I think Andy Reid's a really good coach and he's
a likable guy who does funny fast food commercials. And
Belichick's a really good coach who's just so dislikable and
he's embarrassing himself later in life.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
We gotta jump out here, Rob King, thanks so much, buddy,
Thank you, guys, appreciate you. The second half hour of
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(38:45):
Steelers are four and one instead of top the AFC
North victory.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Monday on Davy, I'm finished you stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't
touch your face. I got him tu day, baby, but
now you gotta call me Ronald? Would you not eat
my pants? Toronto? Oh man? Why google it?
Speaker 9 (39:10):
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Speaker 5 (39:23):
The Steelers improved the four and one on the season
thanks to a dominating win against the rival Cleveland Browns
at Akrostur Stadium Sunday and what was the team's most
complete performance today. The twenty three to nine victory saw
the defense keep the Browns out of the end zone
all afternoon long, while the Steelers' offense found paydirt a
couple of times.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Defensively, Nick Herbig had his fingerprints all.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Over this game with an elite performance where he had
two sacks, two tackles for a loss, and four quarterback hits.
The offense, which game three hundred and thirty five total yards,
was highlighted by the Aaron Rodgers to DK Metcalf connection,
which continues to impress week after week. Against the Browns,
Rogers found Dk four times on nine targets for ninety
five yards and an impressive twenty five yard touchdown. Rogers
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and Metcalf have connected for a touchdown in four of
their first five games of Steelers this year. The offensive
line also did a fantastic job of keeping Rogers clean
all game, as the quarterback didn't suffer a single sack,
and Brown star Miles Garrett was quiet all game long,
registering just two tackles and being shut out from the
sack column.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
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Speaker 5 (40:21):
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Speaker 1 (40:30):
We rewrote the rules of banking and made getting everything
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Nah back looking at Gabriel is going to be taken down.
There's a flag on the play, but it looks like
this is going to be against the Browns. I don't
know which of the four Steelers laying on top of
Gabriel is going to get credit for this sack.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh yeah, a little party on top of a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And characterization Rob King, voice of the Steelers with us
for a power hour of Steeler talk here and six
sacks for the Steelers defense they were suffocating all day.
Deli Gabriel back to pass well fifty eight times with
six sacks.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That is just a bunch of urries. I wrote it
down here somewhere how many hurries they had? Hurries and sacks.
Six tongue hits, yes, yeah, I see it hits that, Yeah,
it hits not hurries hits yeah, sixteen hits big sacks. Well,
the kid took took a little bit of a beating.
Welcome to the AFC, North Till and Gabriel. Yeah, and
(00:55):
I thought he actually held up pretty well. Although the
Steelers had about five interceptions they dropped well, what I
would say is well they the Browns also had five
first downs that they dropped.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I mean true.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You know, they dropped a lot of balls for Dylan
Gabriel yesterday. And what I would say is, if you
were wondering, like, does Dylan Gabriel look like he has it,
I don't know. I don't think you can say he
doesn't have it based on that yesterday. But they did
not give him a chance to look like he could
be their next quarterback. The Steelers defense, that is. Yeah,
And the Steelers defense did a great job on Quinn
(01:27):
Shawn Judkins. You know early in the year, they weren't
stopping to run. Derek Carmon comes back and he's part
of it. The defense is playing better as part of it.
All eleven starters being out there for the first time
is part of it. So we're seeing the Steelers. You know,
last year, people like, how come they're not blitz anymore?
They're just lining up in the same spot. Well, I think, again,
this is just nobody's told me this, but I think
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they just didn't trust their defensive backs so they wanted
to drop as many guys as they could in coverage. Well,
this year they're blitzing at a really high level, one
of the highest rates in the NFL and they are
getting home and they're stopping to run. They're forcing teams
to be one dimensional. Judkins is you didn't see it yesterday,
but he is really good the rookie running back. We
(02:10):
talked about it earlier, Kinger. The oddsmakers had him at
it like an over under ninety yards. They expected him
to make a dent in that. I mean, most people did.
We talked about it. It's like, just survive it and
stop the run, keep it manageable. And he did nothing
against that defensive Well, here's why they expected that.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Sixty one yards against Baltimore in the averaged six point
one per carry, ninety four against Green Bay, eighty two
against Detroit, one hundred and ten against.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Minnesota against Minnesota at.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Thirty six yesterday, and the average three point zero per total.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And that's my point is that for all the people
who just want to say, like, ah, well, I don't know,
the question marks are still there for the Steelers because
that was the Browns. They had an established running game,
like they it was looking good for them running the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Steelers completely took it away yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I you know, Aaron Rodgers said something that I
I've said quite a bit with Max on our radio show,
which is, look, December is when you want to be
playing best, and I totally agree with that. Just win now,
it doesn't matter how you win. Just just stack up
the wins and hope that some of the trends are
trending in the right direction so that you are peaking
in December. I think the trends for this year there's
(03:19):
almost across the board are actually I would say across
the board right, let's go through them. Okay, Proderck Jones
and that offensive line is where the biggest question works
were way better. So Max said, you know, talking to Max,
I defer to him because he's an offensive lineman who
switched positions on the NFL level. So I said, look,
Broderick Jones has been a right tackle, now he's going
(03:41):
to left tackle. Troy Foutana was a left tackle in college.
Now he's going to right tackle.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
How long?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And do I give fout Tana any grace for being
a rookie? He said, nope. He said, the adjustment from
one side to the other takes five to six weeks. Well,
we're five weeks into the season, and I think we're
seeing the offensive line being better and you know, I
don't I don't believe I said in reference to a
play Miles Garret, Miles Garrett's name once yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't think I said his name once.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I mean, that is remarkable. We really thought he was
going to have a field day out there. Now Rogers
still getting rid of the ball pretty quick. But there
were a couple of times, in particular the Connor Hayward touchdown,
or he had a lot of time and moved around
and then made a little chicken salad out of you
know what. Then what a great throw and I mean
I was just a great throw by Rogers. Let's listen
to the play by play by the voice of the
(04:31):
Pittsburgh Steelers on that one.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That would be uh rob king play action pass.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Rolling to his right, looking downfield, looking throws back across
his body.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Hit talk in the end zone. What a crap by
Connor Hayward.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Magnificent grow by Rodgers and Hayward with his first touchdown
of the season. It's so funny that that was your call,
because that was exactly what we said in the stands
in that.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Order we got to catch What a throw.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, both were sensational, you know, not every diving catch
or sliding catch is a great catch. That was a
great catch. I mean he had a bullet. It was
a bullet, It was low. I don't remember if it
wobbled a little bit. All those things make it tougher.
A defender crashing back over the top of them, which
cuts down your vision a little bit. I was just
(05:20):
a that was a great catch. And you know, as
Rogers said after the game, you know Connor Hayward just
smart player. I mean there are times when Rogers is
rolling down the field when he wants his receivers to
do something. They've got to feel it. They've got to
know what to do. And Connor Hayward knew what to
do because he's that kind of a player, all right.
And Aaron Rodgers had time to make that offensive line
(05:40):
doing their job. We talked about the defensive line also
stepping up and trending in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What about the inside linebackers?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Listen, I've never been I haven't been as down on
them as other guys have been. I mean, Patrick Queen
made the Pro Bowl last year and I thought he
was extremely visible. Peyton Wilson is He's all over the field. Now,
are things going to happen. You know, sure, he is
not a He is not a you know, meet you
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in the hole, you know, pick you up and drive
you back into the ground kind of linebacker. He's not
a big thumper. He's a sidelined to sideline guy. And
so is Patrick Queen. Which is why your front four
or front five has to be able to do its job,
because by doing its job, it allows those guys to
run and hit guys. And so I think with the
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defensive line being better, that's only gonna make Queen and
Wilson better. I mean, these guys in Cole Holcomb too.
I thought Cole Holcomb had some plays yesterday. These guys
can move. I mean, you want to go wide. I
mean there was a play I can't remember who had.
It was going up there was the left side line.
It was a little pass I think it was a
pass out in the flat. Might have been a reverse,
I don't remember now. And it looked like the player
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was gonna the carrier for Cleveland was going to turn
the edge and he just he just didn't. He was
stopped that I think they lost a happy yard. I
thought they were going to gain six, and they lost
half a yard. So you know the defensive line. It
all comes together, right, the defensive line does its job,
then the linebackers are able to do their job, and
now you get into third and management. You got those
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defensive backs are finally healthy. They're going to get a
great test this week. Okay, Now we're gonna go man
to man and we're gonna blitz those linebackers. Remember Patrick
Queen was a guy who got sacks in Baltimore. He
wasn't getting sacks here. Why because you you didn't feel
like you could blitz him. Now you got Sleigh Ramsey
and Porter. You got Deshaun Ellie, you got jan Thornhill,
let's go you know ecles.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, after that yesterday, I don't know, and I don't
know about was there anything on Miles Killer?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But I haven't heard anything significant According to Tomlins significant,
that was the only one. The rest was bumps and
bruises associated with the playing of football.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's a bummer.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
One other point on those inside backers, I think what
you've seen in the last two weeks is they're up
closer to the line of scrimmageing gaps, and even when
they're not blitzing there, they're heavy residents. Yeah, and affecting
things that way, and then sometimes you can run blitz
from there. Those guys aren't downhill players per se, but
if you get a little closer to a lot of scrimmage,
they're already halfway downhill right now. You can Now you
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can shoot a gap and be more disruptive. Yeah, that's
a good point starting to fall into place.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
And p Q could have folded me because yesterday, in
the last couple of weeks, he's looked like a thumper.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers joked around with him on the
sideline that asking him if he was trying to knock
himself out.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I thought he was playing incredibly hard. Yeah, he's he's
more of a thumper than Peyton is. You know, He's
just he's a little physically bigger, you know, and he's
a little bit more of a thumper. But you know,
think about you know, just and you know, I've been
a little mystified. Look, you have to let these guys grow.
And our buddy Matt Williamson has said this repeatedly, and
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I really trust his opinion on these kind of things.
Inside linebacker is now and has been for several years.
The hardest position for a young player to excel at
that we that you see all kinds of form first
round picks. Devin Bush, he's playing much better in Cleveland
than he played here. It's not because the coaching wasn't
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good enough here, the defense wasn't good enough. It's it
just takes a while. Now the Swstinger kids, he's he's
one of these kids. It's excelling the inside linebacker for them.
But a lot of guys wash out and it takes
their second team for them to really get a hold
of the NFL. And that's it's I think it's because
the league has changed. Smart quarterbacks will look at those
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young players and exploit them. Right Aaron Rodgers is going
to exploit a young linebacker on the other side. Jalen
Warren yesterday ended up with fifty two yards rushing. But
I felt like he had an amazing game. He just
he he just runs so hard. He on his longest
run of the game, I think was his longest run
of the game he had. I think he had a
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ten and maybe a ten and a eleven. He was
running off the right side. He kind of slithered or slipped.
I think, you know, Aaron Rodgers called him slip. He
kind of slipped through a defensive tackle and and within
one step barreled over defensive back that came up and
then ran for you know, drag guys for another four yards.
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I mean, I've said this before about Jalen. Uh you know,
he just it really looks like he dislikes being tackled.
You know, he just doesn't enjoy it. And that's just
the way he runs. It doesn't look like it's enjoyable
to tackle. No, no, no, and and uh, you know talking,
I was talking to one of the Steelers defensive players.
Remember there was the big thing about Derrick Henry. You know,
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how hard does he run and all this other stuff,
and that guy said, uh, Jalen Warren, that dude runs hard.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah. And so keleb.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Johnson looked like maybe he took another step forward yesterday.
I mean their baby steps. They trusted him. Yeah, their babysit.
You don't have to he's this is.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean, you remember like Troy Polamla's rookie year, he
was not very good. Do you recall that. No, yeah,
here's the is not very good.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But there were not many Steeler fans who watched Troy
Polamalu that year and didn't think.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
He's going to be good.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Oo.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I don't know, man. There were a lot of critics
to Troy pull. I don't know, man, I think everybody.
I mean, I specifically remember having this conversation with Mike
weekend and week out, like you can see that you
know he's figuring this out and he's a freak athlete.
Caleb Johnson, I mean, they were errors of comission that
he was making. A lot of the time, you see
a flash of hair on your TV and you'd be like,
what the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, yeah, But Caleb Johnson, I mean just was not
able to do anything in the preseason and took a
little while, and it seemed like their plan was, oh, well,
he's just going to replace Naujy. I don't think many people,
I certainly didn't anticipate the trust and reliance they'd haven't gain. Well,
that has definitely enabled them to get what they needed
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out of the backfield to this point, but going forward,
I think you still need Caleb Johnson to keep making steps.
So yes, So here's to look. They signed Jaalen warrened
to what it was three year contract extension. What does
that tell you he's their guy? Yeah, money though, King No,
but but but you know a low starter money, right,
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I mean, you know it keeps it on the back.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Money.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Hey, keep battling kid. They I mean, they drafted Johnson
for the long haul, sure, but they don't need him
to be the long haul guy right now, not right
this second. Right, and we look around in December, I
think you're gonna need to see him being.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The guy they thought they drafted.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You think he's going to be an eighteen carry guy
in December, because I don't. I mean, my guess is
he's going to be six to eight carries a game.
That's that's what I think he's gonna win. I think
he's going to be impactful in games by then.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I don't know what that means in terms of carries.
But they're sort of bringing him along a little bit.
And he's had a couple of nice runs, a couple
three plays where you see a little burst. But he's
gonna have to start impacting games eventually for them to
be the team they need to be.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's becoming the backup running back is becoming like the
backup quarterback and it's I mean, look, man, I defend
the Nagy for years I defend I'm like, look, man,
I like the way he runs. He runs harder. People
like Jayalen Warren should be getting all the carries. Now
Jayen Warren's getting all the carries. I'm defending him, and
they're saying Caleb Johnson should be in here.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Welcome to Pittsburgh. Did you have starter bias? What it is?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You referred to dk metcalf, I did as to Kalin
his real name. Now, explain a little bit of the
story behind this. If he had his brothers, we'd all
be calling him that.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I went up to him. I created my own conundrum.
Well done, Rob, No, no need to do this. But
I went up to him and I said, hey, is
there any circumstance in which you would like to be
called the Kalen which is his given name, And he
said I prefer it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I was like, what what?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He goes, Yeah, everybody they just can't pronounce it properly.
And I started to say no, he goes, no, No,
you got to write it's to Kalan. I'm like, okay,
so you would like to be called to Kailin? He said, yeah,
if I had my brothers you.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'd like to be called. So now I walk away
and on has he seen like the mirror what I
wanted to ifders just abide, I got to said, if
you do something, I'll call you to Kalen.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
All right, I don't know if I said if you
do something, I was going to do something. I said,
I said, should I I'll call you to Kalen.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
He goes, okay, you know. So I was like, now
what have I done?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm creating my own problem because everybody knows him as DeKay.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Where did you see that in the first place? His
name to Kalen?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, it's it's it's research, Trent Jordans to Kalen Trent
Jordan's anyway, what Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It's not on Seattle's media site, it's not on Pro
Football Reference.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I don't know. I don't know. Just the hard weekly research,
just that aggressive that Yes, that is impressive. But so
I now now I'm now I'm stuck. I'm stuck. I
don't know what to do. You call him dk okay,
you call him to Kailin when he's in trouble. The
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Kale dragged that back foot to Kiln. Yeah, all right, okay,
the bad stuff. I really was like, what do I do? Yeah, okay,
you gotta call him. He can't explain every time.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, No, that's true. That's true. You know that's true.
I created my conundrum, but he's got me out of
it thanks.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I know.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
He's had a few issues with some drops here and there,
unbelievable catch down the sideline, the late hands and one
first down pitch and catch on the slugo for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yep, and he had he had an easy touchdown. And
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Aaron Rodgers had two throws that I've seen him make
every time that he didn't make this time. He's rolling
out to his right, had Darnault Washington over shot him. Look, man,
nobody's perfect right, but then he had to kaling down
the left sideline.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
He was killing. Yeah, I just said it right there.
Dk He had him wide.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Open and underthrew him for Rodgers empty set, gets the snap,
Brown's bringing four Rogers lofts up the right sideline, tumbling
grab by to Caln Metcalf, I said, I think I
said it every time he caught them ball.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I was looking at mad, so I'm like I don't
know what to do, man, I don't know whether to
the right underneath.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Has Metcalf this time Metcalf racing up the right sideline
that can knock down at the twenty one yard line.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Big game for Metcalf, first down for the Steeler on
Metcalf didn't know what to do. Something didn't know it.
There's probably in an indifference land right there.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Rogers gets a snap back to pass looking pump fixed
the right now, wants to go to Metcalf, has him
in the angel touch down to Carolyn.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Metcalf, Yeah, touchdown.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
See if Alvaro called him to kalenbe it is definitely
the game was Adam be.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Th boy, Oh cut the sound he look on see
and I see that faste go Giga Medcalf lspass all,
what'd you go? I think he said it made it
look easy? Did I did? I hear the word easy
in there? Boy.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But that first it was like over the campbell just
fell perfectly. I thought it was out of bounds. And
I don't know how he ended up catching that one
because it was late and arriving.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
He's really good.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
They're both he's really you know, we're seeing we're seeing
Why with Pickens, who's a super talented guy.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Why they went out and got this guy. There's a
reason he's here, there's a reason he's I know he's
a pain in the ass, but I wish we had Pickens.
I think he'd be a manageable pain in the ass
on this team.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, the only thing I wonder about is Rogers
is so demanding on these guys being precise. And if
Pickens wasn't going to be precise, which he ain't never
been yet, Yeah, that wouldn't have worked.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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We heard Kinger's expert call of the improvised Aaron Rodgers
to Connor Heyward touched down. The player kind of got
the Steelers going. It was nine to three as still
anybody's game. Second half, and then they got that i
think four tuitous call on the running into the punter
which extended the possession and they end up taking advantage
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of that break and sticking the ball in the end zone.
Here's Rogers talking about how that play developed.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, just keep her to the right.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Jalen had a great block.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
I think it was Jalen cut the guy, and I
just kind of continued out, the first look is in
the flat, second's kind of the DK on the backside,
and Connor's really kind of a clear out route. Though
we got a similar play against the Jets in Week
one to Calvin for a touchdown. Different formation, kind of
different thing we're doing, So I just got out there.
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Connor's a really smart player, and I just kind of like,
either you were DK, when do you guys see this
and go that way? And Connor did to put a
decent ball on him in a nice kitchen.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I'm listening to the way that he talks about his teammates.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It's incredible third option and best on that play, right,
And then I'm waiting for somebody to see what I'm
seeing And got to call. In a postgame show last night,
somebody asked, is it possible that Rogers is starting to
get more comfortable? No, it wasn't a postgame show. It
was Tomlin was asked about this in his postgame press conference.
(20:26):
You know, Aaron Rodgers twenty one years in the league,
but is it possible he's still adjusting to Pittsburgh and
starting to get more comfortable here?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And Tomins said absolutely, there's.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Every expectation that should continue as he gets to know
his teammates even better and they play more games together
and they have more experience and helmet together. They're not
top end yet, they're four and one. A lot of
arrows are pointing up, but they can continue to improve.
It's going to be fascinating to see if they can
do so and at what rate. And then I wanted
(20:56):
to detail this hour one of my favorite plays of
the game. You guys remember the little push past Rogers
scrambling and he shoved it ahead yep to Jalen Warren.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's an incredible play.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That was starting three from the Pittsburgh twenty eight and
the details of that play are incredible. Miles Garrett's on
right defensive end, where he spent almost the entirety of
the game. The whole offensive line blocks right away from Garrett.
I guess the play was initially supposed to go to
the right side, So Garrett's coming off the edge, Jalen
Warren has to pick him up one on one, backs
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on backers. Baby Warren sticks his face in the fan
and rocks him. He didn't knock him down, but he
stood him up and knocked him back temporarily, so Garrett's
trying to recollect himself. Rogers is going right, and then
he loops back to the left, so Garrett's chasing him.
Here comes Broderick Jones off of his guy. Seeing what's
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going on behind him, Warren makes him runs ahead and
makes himself available just in case Rogers needs an outlet.
And Broderick Jones gets just between Garrett and Rogers. Doesn't
really knock him down either, but he cuts them off,
and then Rogers shoves the little pass to warn first down.
Another kind of improv play, hustle play they're making. Rob
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talked earlier today about how vicious they're playing and how
hard they're hitting, their their engagement since that Minnesota game
has been through the roof little stuff, big.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Tam Wilson, chase down. They're playing for every play. Yeah,
I look forward to seeing what they can do against Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, it was a big question for me going into
this game because you didn't have the manufactured in tangible
of Oh, it's Ireland.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's for the Steelers, It's for DMR. Yeah, I heard
you saying that on the pregame. I mean I thought
that was a legitimate concern.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I talked to Cam Heyward about that last week and
he said, now we're just building building building where they
keep ramping it up. So far, so good Yesterday, Yeah,
you know it's gonna be hard to play Thursday in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
It did look like a team that kind of gave
up the Browns. Kinger, would you agree.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Gave up in terms? Well, I gave up is the
wrong work because I know NFL teams never really give up.
I don't know that they believe they could win. Well,
they were marching down the field, you know, with three
minutes left, and you know, they score a touchdown there,
they're winn seven. Right, they did march it into Steelers territory.
I just don't think they're I think they've got some
(23:22):
serious deficiencies. I think they've got a really good defense,
and I and I think that's about it.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, they had a.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Lot of tackle issues yesterday. Offensive tackle issues. Yeah, their
tackles have been problematic. They got injured. I mean, they
got guys got banged up on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
How do you feel about the way the Steelers played
conservatively offensively and defensively With the lead, they're trying to
run out the clock at the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That was fine with it. There's a lot of people
kind of bitching about that, like we're you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Playing too soft on defense, and you know, you're running
Caleb Johnson three times into the line and punting and
then Corlis punts with nine seconds on the play clock.
Make sure you bleed it all the way down.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Look, this has been a common topic. And Mike tomlins
record in one score games is phenomenal. I mean, it's
most coaches are right around that five hundred mark. He's
well above that. It's probably close to two thirds winning percentage.
And you look around the NFL and you think, you know,
and I'm I will preface this by saying I'm not
a gamber.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I rarely look at the lines.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
But when you do, you think yourself to right, Okay,
so you think this team's gonna blow this team out.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But Mike, you back, they're rarely double digit lines in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Right, Bengals were minus fourteen and a half at Green
Bay yesterday and didn't cover, right.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So, but I mean, it's it's not common. Most of
them are single digits because most games are close. And
so you got you get a lead, you've got a
really good defense. Are there times where you think, Blad
I'd love to see him get one, be aggressive, get
one more score. But also with that comes maybe some
risk that you want to avoid when you've got a
good defense and.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You don't want to get anybody hurt.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
When the game's over, the game's over, just get out
of dodge. They rest in a lit lot of guys
on a short week. I mean, at the end of
that game, they were playing Peppers at safety. They were
playing James Pierre at cornerback. They were playing he looked
outside linebacker.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
They looked great.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
They were playing it, says a to Maywoll on the
defensive line. Uh, kinger to your point.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
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Speaker 2 (25:35):
And uh, that's it. But that's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's a lot, and it happens all the time in
the NFL. And we're you know, look, this is the
beauty of rooting for a team is we all see
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Rob King. The day after the Browns victory, and I
have to tell you, I'm leaving that game yesterday and
I'm just thinking, I think how they won this oh tomorrow,
the rest of the week is just going to be
so much more delightful in Pittsburgh. Yes, since they won that. Now,
(26:56):
sitting atop the AF do you actually control the audio here?
I can, yeah, because I just think did it? So
all of us who have who have have a microphone on.
At some point you realize you have to stop talking
or you have to really really trust the audio guy.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
In the commercial break before you come on, he's just like, but.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Welcome back to DV. So if he didn't, if he
wasn't controlling, you are controlling the No. Actually, I was
trusting Jacob and I am putting too much trust.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You know Jacob.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
The content that I was spewing prior to that. But
Jake is drunk with who's your hysteria?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah? How about that?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
They Well, how about James Franklin getting fired? The most
unpen state like thing ever. I was telling these guys earlier.
Some guy made an announcement. I was in the bathroom
at the game yesterday. Some guy goes holy after they
fired Franklin. The entire bathroom was like, oh my god,
you know, and then all the you know, the the
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peanut gallery yelling was going on.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
In there. But college football is just so fundamentally different now.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's hard for me to get my hands around what
exactly is happening there because I think it's out of
control is the word that kind of comes to mind.
It's just like they're doing much money that they're throwing
it all over the place, and it's making the game
like it seems like it is scattered. So it's it's
become pro football at a different level.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
And by the way, it's pro football if there was
free agency every year.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
With infrastructure right, and I think it underscores, you know,
people it was remember it was a big discussion point
should these guys be paid or not be paid? And
there are pros and cons and I understood that. But
I think we're seeing just how much money there is,
and but it proves.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
They should be paid. To me, it's just that I
think they overcorrected. I need.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I wanted to see something a little more equitable. But
what they are doing, the lack of structure that they
have right now, is making the game. It's diluting college football.
Way they didn't get they didn't out in front of it,
and they had the opportunity and there were people discussing
this for years and years and years, and they didn't
get out in front of it. And now it's you
can't put the toothpaste back in the tight it is.
(29:11):
I don't know what they're going to do. I hope
they can do something, because you know, I was talking
to a former college coach about, uh, you know about hey,
when when a guy, when.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
A guy would go to the pros, you'd get to
get drafted.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
He'd go up there and he'd like, you know, I'd
like to coach thank coach Dixon for for getting me
to the NBA. Now they're like, I'd like to thank
coach Jones, coach Smith, coach Dixon. I mean, you know,
five schools in four years.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah. Uh. Steelers.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
With a short week now and their second consecutive AFC
North game against the Bengals in Cincinnati on Thursday night,
they've got a chance to make some serious uh headway
here in some distance in the division if they get
two AFC North wins, keep knocking down these seas. I
don't know who Cleveland and Baltimore have this week. I
don't know if we could be okay so they can't lose.
(30:00):
I'm not sure who Cleveland has but it'd be great
if they lost another one. But although I'm not too
worried about them, I mean, it really seems like it
would be it's the Steelers division to lose should they
win on Thursday night. And I don't discount the Ravens
at any point, but I think you got to win
this game on Thursday night because it's very winnable.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I agree, you know there they have a they have
a puncher's chance.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You know they have Joe Flacco can pressed the ball
down the field, and he's a veteran guy, but he
has not looked particularly sharp. Two touchdowns yesterday. Yeah, he
didn't look great in Cleveland. I have yet to see.
I have not watched the Bengals game yet. That is
for later today.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
The one touchdown to Chase was one of the most
remarkable catches you'll ever say.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh, I can't wait to see it in traffic. So
Chase is phenomenal. Higgins is really good. This is why
you got those three corners games like this. This is
why you have Ramsey and slay An added him to JPJ.
They have a good group of tight ends. I really
think Chase Brown's a good running back. He has not
gotten stared it at all because their offensive line has
been an issue. Hendrickson can wreck a game by himself.
(31:04):
He got yet right his back. I don't know whether
he's gonna be able to play or not. If he
can't play, I mean they've they've spent first round picks
on two edge guys who I don't think have done
a whole lot in Stuart and uh and uh uh
Miles Murphy. Yeah, Miles Murphy was the guy they took
first last year. So you know they're they're they have
(31:25):
you know, they have a decent secondary. You know, look,
it's it's we talked about this just a short time ago.
It's it's every game in the NFL. Right, So you
think about yesterday, five turnovers they could have maybe happened
for the Steelers. They don't get any if if those
if the ball bounces Cincinnati's way, could be an issue.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The line, the early line is Steelers minus five and
a half.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
If I'm Tomlin, I'm scaring these guys about Flacco and saying, hey,
look he beat us last year in Indy. Right, this
guy's not done. I know there's rumors of his demise,
but they might be a little early.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I think he's I saw this stat. I think
he's six and twenty two as a starter since he
left the Ravens. It hasn't been Now, some of that's
the quality of the teams he's been on. Im in
Cleveland's just not very good. But you know, look, he's
and anybody that's capable. It's like an old you know,
it's like George Foreman, you know, back in the day
they brought him out at you know, at forty six,
he could still knock you out, right, Joe Flacco was
still capable of having a good game. Speaking of knocking
(32:24):
you out, I mean the way that those guys were
rushing the quarterback yesterday, and given how Swiss cheese this
Bengals offensive line is, it might be a tough day
for the old man. Yeah, and Mims has been a
little bit banged up at right tackle, So TJ. Watt's
got to be rubbing his hands together, ready to go.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Man, come out this.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Do you guys get the sense that this team that
the way they came out talking like they were going
to be the best defense in the NFL and then
let the Jets give him a game and then got
rolled by Seattle that that humility, the humbling there was
actually really good for them. And I don't think they're
(33:01):
going to look past a Bengals team. I think that
they know how big this game is coming up this weekend.
Past years, I would wonder, like, are they gonna get
up for this crap?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Just this one?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Deshaun Elliott was talking about that yesterday and he was
asked about their relatively comfortable position and he said, what
we like eight and two?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Last year we bleeped the bed.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
So I love him.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think they're one at a time kind of about now.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, that's good because that seems to me to be
different from what they've been in the past.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And I think it's easy to.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Not overlook an opponent on a short week because it's
so immediate.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You got to get to work right now, right, you know?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I do. I would like to think that with Aaron
Rodgers at quarterback and you know, the defensive look. And
let's not forget too this last game was the first
time the entire starting eleven starting twelve with Herbig was
out there. Oh my goodness, gracious, has herbig been readible
that that's starting twelve? First time they've been available this week,
so they hopefully they'll be all available Thursday in Cincinnati
(34:09):
and moving forward. Yeah, Austin, any idea about his return, Mike, No, Well,
there was some Scott I game yesterday didn't play. I've
been here since.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I have no idea. I just didn't know if there
was anything. I don't know, That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
But Tomlin talks today. Because of the short week, maybe
he'll have an update today is Tuesday. Wasn't a schefter
who floated yesterday? The Steelers are going to be active
before the trade deadline. You anticipate if that were the case,
it's at receiver. I wouldn't be shocked. I mean, you know, look,
they'll they'll try to get better anywhere. I saw some
of the names out there, and I'm like, I wonder
who would fit here for the Steelers. You know, you're
just looking down the list, you know, depth pieces potentially,
(34:47):
but George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
They look for a fourth, they look they look pretty deep,
and they look pretty good right now, the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
That's seen a lot of speculation, like, oh the Saints
are Saint's a good trader lave because they stak like
if you're gonna get any better. You want to have
good young receivers like, it's not their problem, right, No,
he's not their problem. I don't think you're getting the
lava for a fourth round compensatory pick.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, it's it's always what are you going to get? Right,
he's unavailable? Wait how much? Oh, he's available? Right, That's
just the way it goes.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Are they utilizing everybody they have? Kinger, I've been talking
about this the last couple of weeks. Pat Fryarmouth not
figuring into this offense is really bizarre to me.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So I think I was asked about this. I believe
this is going to be all season long, a matchup offense.
So we think we can run the ball and bully you. Okay,
you're gonna get a lot of Spencer Anderson and a
lot of Darnell Washington.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
We got to spread it out and throw it.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You're gonna get more Calvin Austin, Roman Wilson, Pat fryar Muth,
John Smith.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I just think that's the way it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I think that they they have enough flexibility to be
able to attack an opposing defense the way they want
to attack them and change within game because they've got
a wide variety of personnel.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Potentially good offense, bad fantasy team exactly. Yeah, that's a
good call, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
But I think a lot of Steelers fans thought of
him as somebody like a Travis Kelcey type ceiling to
his game, and I don't think when the Chiefs are
playing people, any opponent is going to factor him out
of the game.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
He's been extremely consistent throughout his grim and you can
pretty much pencil in for sixty sixty five catches when
he plays a full season. He's not on pace to
do that right now, but I can see a game
in which he's going to catch six seven balls for
ninety five yards. You just haven't had to do that.
I don't think you're gonna have to do it again.
Cincinnati either, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
By the way, really impressed with the Chiefs last night.
I mean that was a big win. They're only three
and three, but they're still the Chiefs. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Andy Reid might be the greatest coach alive. He might
in reck like when it's all said and done, sit great.
Do you mean like like a great lake, like great
size size?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But Belichick this you know, I know that Bill Simmons
and you know the Patrio triots a riff raffer, all
yelling oh nothing will ever but marks his legacy. I
disagree Brady's success after Belichick and then Belichick completely screwing
up his end of tenure in New England and then
(37:14):
embarrassing himself in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I don't think Andy Reid would ever do that.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
How good Drake may has looked, how good Mac Jones
has looked in San Franz.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Dude, Yeah, who did he have coaching Mac Jones? A
bunch of idiots who should have never been coordinators quarterbacks
coaches like Belichick was. You couldn't question anything he did
there for so long, and he was making terrible mistakes.
I just I just wonder if that conversation is now. No,
Andy Reid is a better coach than Bill Belichick. Despite
the championships.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, do you look at Andy Reid's previous to Kansas
City run which, yeah, Philadelphia was really good, but it
could never win a big one. There doesn't matter, Oh no,
it matters who is his quarterback. It matters who was
his So it's all tied to the quarterback. Well, this
is what I'm saying did you have menab for a while?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
M him? Was Belichick going to the AFC Championship without
Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I think Andy Reid's a really good coach and he's
a likable guy who does funny fast food commercials. And
Belichick's a really good coach who's just so dislikable and
he's embarrassing himself later in life.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
We gotta jump out here, Rob King, thanks so much, buddy,
Thank you, guys, appreciate you. The second half hour of
Power Hours Either Talk brought to you by Clearview Federal
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Valves in next for Michelle with the Electric Lunch at noon.
(38:45):
Steelers are four and one instead of top the AFC
North victory.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Monday on Davy, I'm finished you stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't
touch your face. I got him tu day, baby, but
now you gotta call me Ronald? Would you not eat
my pants? Toronto? Oh man? Why google it?
Speaker 9 (39:10):
It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on Dve brought
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Speaker 5 (39:23):
The Steelers improved the four and one on the season
thanks to a dominating win against the rival Cleveland Browns
at Akrostur Stadium Sunday and what was the team's most
complete performance today. The twenty three to nine victory saw
the defense keep the Browns out of the end zone
all afternoon long, while the Steelers' offense found paydirt a
couple of times.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Defensively, Nick Herbig had his fingerprints all.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Over this game with an elite performance where he had
two sacks, two tackles for a loss, and four quarterback hits.
The offense, which game three hundred and thirty five total yards,
was highlighted by the Aaron Rodgers to DK Metcalf connection,
which continues to impress week after week. Against the Browns,
Rogers found Dk four times on nine targets for ninety
five yards and an impressive twenty five yard touchdown. Rogers
(40:03):
and Metcalf have connected for a touchdown in four of
their first five games of Steelers this year. The offensive
line also did a fantastic job of keeping Rogers clean
all game, as the quarterback didn't suffer a single sack,
and Brown star Miles Garrett was quiet all game long,
registering just two tackles and being shut out from the
sack column.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
It's a short week for.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
The Steelers as they traveled to Cincinnati to face the
Bengals this week on Thursday Night Football on Tom Appraman
with the Steelers Report.
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