October 20, 2025 • 40 mins
Tim Benz airs his frustrations over the Steelers defense who was completely lifeless against the Bengals last Thursday night.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Live from the Don's Appliances Studios, where Pittsburgh shops for appliances.
This is WTV Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
That being said, bitching about the Browns no trading Flacco
was a bad look for Mike Tomlin and it made
it look worse last night.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, I thought it was gamesmanship and they were gonna
come out and come after him, and that is not
what happened.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Now it just looks like the guy who loves to
come out and say.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We do not care is like, why did they do
this to us?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
It looks bad.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You know that. And then Austin.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Powers when he gets run over, when the guy gets
run over by the forklift. Yeah, but it's like one
hundred yards away. It's like, dude, we saw this coming. Yeah,
as soon as the trade was made, it was like no.
Speaker 7 (01:12):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Brandy Bellman and the DV morning Show.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
We were processing so much of our pain.
Speaker 8 (01:20):
Yeah on Friday, and we still will continue to do that.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You think, oh yeah, you think not through it?
Speaker 7 (01:28):
No Steelers football, and we were through it.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm not over this and I can't stop thinking about
it no matter where I look. No, because that was
the time to kick a divisional opponent off a cliff. Yeah,
not to give them newfound life with their forty year
old quarterback. And that's exactly what we did. And by
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the way, the road is about to get narrow, you know.
I mean we got Green Bay coming to town this Sunday. Yeah,
we got at Indianapolis, who is playing out of their
mind this year. There's the surprise team of the year
because of the way Danny Dimes is playing. We play
the Bengals again, right, So Joe Burrow is gonna or
(02:14):
Joe Flacco's coming to town. Sorry I called him Joe
Burrow because that's what he looked like on Thursday night.
And you know, we still got the Ravens twice at
the end of the season, when Lamar is most likely
going to be healthy. So I know that everybody thinks
they're dead, but they're They're never dead to me. I
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just I have a hard time that how many times
in our adult life have the Ravens been like completely
out of a season. I don't remember that many times
They've been competitive, just like we have. That's why that
rivalry for me is the strongest, is because that rivalry
was forged in the postseason.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Yeah, that's why we hate them.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
That's why we hate them. We battled them.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We I mean, I feel like we've gotten the better
of them in the postseason. You know, we beat them
to go to a super Bowl that we won. They've
knocked us off a few times in the playoffs of
late I mean last year they blew our doors off,
and so you know, I'm still not I'm still not
over it. I still don't know how we fix what
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ails us.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
There's a lot of challenges. I'm glad.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
You know, we'll get to talk with Tim Benz a bit,
which you know he kind of always revs the engine,
so he'll be on a little Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
He's not gonna calm us down.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
No, No, he literally you mad, bro, so.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like yeah, and I feel like he's talking directly to us.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
He is, So he'll be a little later on this hour,
I did see like a.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
Koboli tweet saying that if the season ended today, This
was yesterday because I was watching nothing, but you know,
football and everything that I watch is in the context
of how it impacts the Steelers. Yeah, but he said
if the season ended today, the Steelers would win the
AFC North and be the fourth seed. They would host
Buffalo in a first round playoff game.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
That's cool.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
And then I'm like, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Oh you like that stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
See I can't stand that ye season ended today. Oh
you mean a quarter of the way through the season.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
That's like all the tiny little bit of like chum
in the water that I need.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
I'm like, all right, Coboli, let's go.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
Well you both put a sandwich in our pocket and
let's go.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
There's so many people telling us so many different things.
If you have the Cobolis of the world talking every
week about if the season ended right here, then you
have you know, the Max Starks of the world, who
is much more calm and collected and even keeled, saying, well,
you got to give these guys five to six weeks
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on the offensive line to really even know what you have.
And then you have you know, the actual like hardcore
Tomlin haters that like, this season is done, it's already
over fire, Tomlin, move on. And then you have the
rest of us who are kind of in the mushy
middle that are like, I don't know what to make
of this team. A Rod has been the pleasant surprise, right, Like,
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I feel like we're doing things offensively, like we're starting
to come together, But defensively, what is going on?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
Yeah, I think we're getting run on.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
We're getting passed on. It will we can't get off
the field.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
On third down.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
Defensively is the hardest to take because again it was
so much of the narrative, especially when we were at
training camp. That was because again, offensively, the biggest story
is that Aaron Rodgers is leading the way and we've
seen a lot of it, even though there are offensive
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problems as well, and that is going to be what
we talked with Tim about is you know, that's one
element of it, is that.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
There's fall on both sides. Your boys not.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Not playing complimentary ball.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
No, But defensively I think is the biggest shocker because
we do have the personnel to have and a ton
of money and a ton of money that there should
be really no issue. I mean we have we have
shark eyes right there with TJ. Watt, you know, like
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there's so there's.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
So many just unbelievable historic players.
Speaker 8 (06:33):
Yeah, and for the historic defense that we were promised,
Like this just isn't what it should look like.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, I got to get this out now, and
this is a perfect place to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's right out of the gate. It's just me and
you sitting here talking.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Mike and Randy are off today, by the way, we
got Kevin Gorman filling in with sports. But this is
a feeling that I've had sort of in the back
of my head. I don't want to say it out
loud because I don't know for a it's not gospel,
it's not definitely the truth. But the Tomlin defense is
predicated on turnovers, right, Like, you got to turn the
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ball over, and.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
We do that very well.
Speaker 9 (07:12):
But I feel like that is the fatal flaw in
the philosophy, like the philosophy of defense that Tomlin has, because.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Number one, when you when you talk about turning the
ball over and getting turnovers and creating splash, you're playing
more individual ball, like it's about the individual player getting
that turnover, right, So you have guys thinking in that
way and not in a collective And then you get
into the postseason and teams are better coached there, you know,
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safer with the ball, they're more conservative, they don't turn
the ball over. And what happens is these defenses give
up a ton of yards, but then they get the turnover, right,
so it kind of negates all the yards that they
gave up. It might like look not the greatest, but
then there's a splash play. But if you take away
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that splash, you're just getting dog walked up and down
the field all day. And against playoff teams, it clearly
isn't working.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It hasn't worked.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So when I see that in a game where the
Bengals are prone to turning the ball over just like
anybody else else, and we're not winning those battles and
getting those turnovers and actually they're getting a couple, I'm like, well,
we're not going to beat any good team with any
quarterback that knows what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
With this kind of defense.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
They're just going to pick the soft zone apart, work
it all the way down the field and then you know,
punch it in or they get a big splash play
where there's a completely wide open broken play and they score.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
And when you're looking for splash plays and you have,
again going back to personnel, so many names that are
just disappearing where you're just like.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Hey, what happens, where's he been?
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yeah again, we you know, we get the opportunity to
talk to players sometimes and when we talked with herbig
and we're like, Wow, man, this guy's ready to bust out.
And then the next week, you know, he has a game.
Be like, didn't mention him at all. Nope, didn't even.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Hear his name.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Where was he?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
He wasn't on the field because the Steelers couldn't stop
the run, so they were putting in high Smith yeah,
and taking him off the field. And he's like one
of the hottest players in the league right now. I
mean he's leading the Steelers in sacks, so stuff like that.
I'm just like, ah, you know, I don't know from
a strategy standpoint, yeah, you know, but I know that
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they're going to have to figure it out and they're
going to get another chance because here comes Josh Jacobs,
yeah and the Green Bay Packers and this is the
Aaron Rodgers revenge game.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
And yeah, to me, this is more of a revenge
game than the Jets.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
To me.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
The thing for Rogers, I don't think he was downplaying.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean, I think he wanted to stick it to
that coach that basically may fly across the country to
tell him to take a hike.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Yeah, and we wanted to see fields. I get all
of that.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
But like to me, this is the actual revenge came,
So of course we'll get into all of that, and
then with Tim Benz and Jerry Doula is going to
be on the show as well, Yes he is.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Thank you for letting me get that out.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I appreciate Listen in the safe space. Yeah, this is
the safe space again.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
As Bill mentioned, Randy's off today and Mike is off,
so we'll chat with Kevin Gorman as well.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
He'll be hitting us with sports at the bottom of
the hour.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
News.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
This hour is brought to you by your neighborhood Ford Store,
Cloudy Skies today and it's going to be a high
of fifty nine. I start you off with a little
bit of music news here. And this was a big
shocker yesterday. Limp Biscuit basis Sam Rivers has passed away.
And the shocker here is because Limp Biscuit is pretty
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active once again and Sam Rivers just forty eight years old.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Oh my god, No cause of death was real. Well,
that's what's weird here.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Back in twenty twenty, Rivers had admitted that when he
left the band back in twenty fifteen, it was because
of liver disease which was caused by excessive drinking, and
he had received a liver transplant, but then he rejoined
the band back in twenty eighteen, so there's really not
a lot of information after that as to whether that
(11:29):
helped him kind of achieve a healthy lifestyle and if
that changed his life after that. So anything beyond that
is speculation. But the band announced his passing late Saturday night,
saying that Sam Rivers wasn't just our bass player. He
was pure magic. It was the pulse beneath every song.
It was the calm in the chaos. I don't know
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if there was any calm in their chaos, but it
was the soul in the sound. And his presence is
unforgettable and his heart was enormous. Rivers met Fred Durst
while they were working at a Chick fil A at
a mall in Jacksonville, Florida. Oh really Yeah, and they
hit it off.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Wait, how long has Chick fil A been out?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (12:10):
As long as Limp Biscuit.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
That's crazy because I don't know why, but I just
I feel like Chick fil A is pretty.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
New, But I have to I mean, maybe maybe we.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just weren't paying attention to it because it just never registered.
Like when I think of my childhood, certainly I never
register Chick fil A.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Same Chick fil A wasn't anything for me.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
I mean maybe it's just like the marketing of Chick
fil A and the pop of using the cows and
everything and just being like, oh, what's up.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, we're here now we're revamped.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, you know what's crazy is Limp Biscuit went away
for a long time, and I feel like they just
resurfaced twenty twenty one or twenty twenty, like they did
a festival and Fred Durst had gray hair and he
came out and like he looked his look went viral.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Do you remember this, yes.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Where he looked like an FBI agent that was in
his sixties.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
They have leaned into the fact that as much, you know,
as sonically it is not what you would say, is
dad rock, that that's kind of what they are now
because dads grew up listening to Lymphiscuit. But he's had
several looks on stage where yes, he's he's great, and
he's got a beard. And actually Sam Rivers kind of
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looked like this too, Like Sam Rivers doesn't look or
didn't look that different than from Kyle Gas from Tenacious Team,
you know, but you know, Fred durstill gets on stage sometimes,
you know, grade and in overalls, you know, and really
does lean into Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
No, I'm an old man now, dude, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
And so my bisket really is lamp out.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I need blue Choo for my biscuit.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Bluetoo Biscuit is our revamped name.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Limp Biscuit sponsored by Blue Choe. But to your point,
Limp Biscuit obviously so huge in the nineties. I think
once they did the revamped Woodstock and they had you know,
that huge wash pit.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Oh you're talking about the ninety nine Woodstock.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, the bad one.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, the bad one that they actually incited a riot at.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
I think that was probably the apex of people's tolerance
of them, because it really did highlight the let's say
male violence aspect of their I don't want to say
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music because I don't I don't like kind of lumping
that in where you know, obviously, there's been so many
times in music history where it's like it's the music
that's making everybody like this, and it's like, well, it's
culture or if the.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Music is attracting a certain kind of person.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, the word in cell was not in our vernacular
at that point, but it was just young white males
with a lot of anger and frustration, right, and they
would come to those concerts and really act that out,
mosh and go crazy and punch each other in the face.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
The loaners they find their thing, and they may find
themselves in music, they might find themselves in a chat room,
they might find themselves in a variety of places. But
there was some element of, you know, a need to
express that violent aspect that that band attracted in a
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way definitely when they.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Found a home there.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
But that particular moment in time and in culture I
think was a bit of an apex for them, and
so there was a little bit of a backlash of
being like, ugh, you.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Know, can we move on from this?
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Like I've had enough monster energy drink for now, I
can't do this right more.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And so that time period fascinates me the end of
the nineties because it was all the Y two K stuff,
like what's gonna happen when all the computers switch over
to the two thousands and all those zeros?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Is everything going to reset? Is all our stuff gonna
be lost totally and just for us.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Like I was graduating high school going out into the world,
like there was there was so much packed into the nineties.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
Yeah, and I think for what Limp Biscuit was doing,
that almost opened the door musically too for a little
bit of that like New York artsy lo fi scene.
That's where you got bands like The Strokes and the
White Stripes, eventually the Black Keys. You started getting people
who wanted to take it down a notch and get
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like a little back in the garage. Yeah, and you know,
a little less of the you know, Corn Limp Biscuit
Stained kind of bands like and so again. And this
is how music works in cycles. That's why I'm always
kind of like never fully afraid, being like, oh my god,
music's terrible and nothing's ever gonna come out of it.
There's always something becau is.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Always great and always terrible.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
It's a mushroom where are you looking decay and then
something grows out of it.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
I'm always I'm always optimistic something else is coming. But
for Limp Biscuit here, they just kind of have had
this resurgence and they just had a song that came
out called es No it was that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
That was the song they had like four years ago
that when.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
They resurfaced, because it was all about Fred Durst giving
out hardcore dad vibes.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna I have to search it real
quick because I want to get the title right because
it was Magan love to Morgan Wallen. What that was
the name of the song And it went number one?
Like it it exploded it like it's a decent song,
but it.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
Actually was like for Olympus, like it wasn't bad and
it went number one in rock radio, like people lost
their minds over it, and it was all of a sudden.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
It was this narrative like, oh my god, Limbiscuits back,
like Biscuit is.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
So back, and all of the shows are doing great.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
But then now you see the same thing as happening
with Corn like all of them.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, I mean everything from the nineties is back, so
why not the bands?
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Why not them again?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
And that's pretty tough probably for somebody who's got a
new liver and maybe has had some demons that they've
battled and now you're back on the road doing that
whole thing.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
And I think you know, normally when you see somebody
die suddenly you know it. It usually is the simplest explanation.
He either would have had tremendous health challenges from having
a liver transplant then and you can happen and you're
already in a bad situation, or very much to your point,
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you already have challenges like that, and then all of
a sudden you are back in that hamster wheel that
you never imagine to be back in later in your life,
and it's asking you to maybe face demons that you
didn't actually heal, and yeah, yeah, you're right back in there.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
But I did I did that.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
They met at a Chick fil A, met at a
Chick fil A, and then the next thing, you know,
you want to be in a band.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Does Chick fil A have biscuits? I feel like they do.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Oh it sounds delicious right now, like a breakfast biscuit.
Breakfast biscuit? Oh my god, wait, does Chick fil I
do breakfast?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Why are we whispering?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
I don't know. I don't want my stomach to hear.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Are trying to enter in fast.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Let's just end the news sent and just tell us
what the weather's gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You got it?
Speaker 7 (20:11):
It's gonna be claudiest guys.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
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Speaker 5 (21:05):
KeV Morning. Well, how about the uh Alcs There will
be a game seven tonight. Mm hmm, big pitching matchup
on the table here with Shane Bieber facing George Kirby
tonight in Game seven in Toronto. But last night it
was a twenty two year old right hander Trey Y
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Savage who put on a show for the Toronto Blue
Jays and a six to win over the Seattle Mariners.
The Savage started this season in low A. He was
a twenty twenty four first round draft pick, number twenty overall,
So the Pirates passed on this guy, but they took
Connor Griffin as the number one prospect in all of baseball.
But Trey You Savage allowed two runs on six hits
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and three walks, had seven strikeouts in five and two
third innings. Wow, and here's the impressive part. Like, that's
a good that's a good line right here. That's a
good one one out away from a quality start for
a twenty two years world rookie. He didn't make his
debut until September fifteenth. He in three consecutive innings he
got the Mariners to ground into inning ending double plays.
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He had not in his first twenty three and one
third innings and the Majors had not got a GIDP
and had only two in ninety eight innings in the minors.
So here's a guy in the most pressure packed situation
of his career gets them to do it. Not just
gets the Mariners to do it, he did it. Cow Rawly,
the and the favorite for the American League MVP Award,
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got him to ground into a three six one, which
is rare because it meant you Savage had to cover
first base in the third inning, JP Crawford in the fourth,
and Julio Rodriguez in the fifth. So big win for
the Blue Jays trying to get back to the World
Series after winning back to back in the early nineties,
Mariners trying to get there for the first time in
franchise history. They're actually a team that has a longer
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World Series drought than the Pirates. So if you can
believe that, Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
It's incredible to me.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
keV like hearing these story worries of this kid like
coming from low a ball, Like just you know, from
the time you get drafted. I mean obviously, if you're
drafted top twenty, you're going to be in the bigs
at some point, but just that road is incredible to
traverse all five levels and maybe those guys are skipping
a level or two, a lot of it.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
This guy started low A, then the high A, double A,
triple A into the majors.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
And in Toronto you're going from at one point I
think you're in like New Hampshire or somewhere, and then
you're going to Vancouver and then you know, somewhere before
that and then Buffalo, like you're bouncing all over.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Dunaden's in the mix, right because that's where Jay Casey is.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, that might where that might have been where he
started with dun Eden.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
So it's kind of an incredible, incredible season for Treya
Savage and you know, topping it off last night.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
What allows a player like that to have that kind
of game in that moment like that he's never had before?
Like how how do you go up to the bigs
and have a game like you've never had before? Or
I guess just belief in yourself confidence.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think it's the ability, like the mental capacity to
focus and to just lock in on Okay, this is
what I have to do, and not letting allowing the
moment to get too big, because it's you know, when
it comes down to it, they're playing baseball. This is
a game to play their entire lives. But I think
the mental capacity where guys are able to say, okay,
like I'm just out there pitching like I normally would pitch.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, and to compartmentalize the pressure.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yes, And now he's doing it at home at the
Rogers Center, and the crowd was really behind them, and
and so you know that that plays a role in it,
but that also can add pressure.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, right, because the home crowd. You don't want to
let the home crowd down.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
No, And that's but just just the idea that he's
able to do it put on a performance like that, Yes,
And they took advantage. You know, Seattle had some shaky
defensive plays. They took advantage of playing some small ball
and getting a couple runs across early that way. And
then Vlad Guerrero hit a solo shot in the fifth inning,
was the sixth home run of the postseason, tying Joe
car and Jose Bautista for the most by the Blue Jays,
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most by a Blue Jay individual in a single playoff run.
And so you know, we kind of foreshadowed that. We'll
talk a little bit later about the show. Heya tawny performance,
but he had won for the ages. The Dodgers swept
the Brewers, who had the best record in all of
baseball this season, and they're going to be waiting for
the winner of tonight's game. That World Series Game one
is Friday, but you got tonight. Well, you know, I
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was all Mariners all the way. But now it looks
decidedly in the favor of the Blue Jays, given how
well Guerrero's playing. I think they said at one point
that he was something like nine for his last sixteen
at one point. I mean, this is a guy and
he's killing the ball. Yeah, and he's making great plays
on defense too, which is, you know, he's an offensive player,
but making some terrific plays at first base. And then
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they have a little bit of an advantage that they
have a former Cy Young winner and Shane Bieber is
on the mound, and they've got a three time Sy
Young winner in the bullpen and Max Scherzer, who gave
his manager hell when he tried to come out for
him in his life starts, so you know, it's like,
I'm not coming out of the game, you go back
into the dugout that type of add.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Hasn't he been hurt all year, like he doesn't played
a time.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
That's that's the thing is, here's a guy who has
a couple of World Series Championships under his belt.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
HM.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
So you know, here's a guy who's a gamer in
the postseason, and you know, Mad Max the nickname, almost
pitched the perfect game against the Pirates if you were
called out one I remember being I remember being in
the Mad mex and Robinson and screaming at the TV
when Tabada and you know, I'm in a restaurant making
a scene and I'm like, you got to be kidding me,
you know.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So I saw an interview with him once.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You know, he's got those crazy like husky eyes where
he has a brown eye and a blue eye, and
he's like, sometimes he comes out of the bullpen or
he comes out of the dugout and he's he's got
this demonic look on his face. And he said, when
he has that kind of look on his face, he's
pitching out of the brown eye, which was one of
the craziest sentences I've.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Ever heard anybody. Say, you don't want to be on
the wrong end of the brown.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
So that there is a guarantee for former Pirates to
be in the World Series, and I'm sure Pirates fans
love reveling and their misery in this part of it.
But the Dodgers have two former Pirates pitchers and starter
Tyler Glasnow and lefty reliever Anthony Bonda. The Blue Jays
have Isaiah Kinda Falfa who was spent the majority of
the season with the Pirates, and the Mariners have lefty
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reliever Caleb Ferguson, who also was traded at the deadline.
So there will be former Pirates in the World Series
one way or the other on both.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Sides, on both sides.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
So someone for Pirates fans the root for they can't
root for anybody else. Just to stick to the baseball theme,
the Pirates have a prospect who is just killing the
ball in a way that nobody else is in baseball
right now, Ezmerlin Valdez, twenty one year old outfielder, first baseman,
who's their number fifteen prospect. He's trying to convince the
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Pirates to put him on their forty man roster and
protect him from the Rule five draft. And that has
to do with how many years of service since you signed,
especially for international players, this is the guy they signed
out of the Dominican for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
He's playing in the Arizona Fall League and has he
went three for four with a double, two homers, four
RBIs yesterday gives him seven homers and eight games in
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the Arizona Fall LOP. So there's a little bit of
hope for the Pirates is that this is a guy
who had an incredible season and if not for Connor
Griffin would be in the running for their probably minor
league Player of the Year. But putting on a bit
of a show in the Arizona Fall League. So that
has Pirates fans, you know, getting them going right now.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Any chance that either or both of them see the
field next year.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
There's a possibility. He finished the season in Double A,
only played fifty one games there, so he's probably going
to get a season at least start the season in
Triple A. But you know, there's given what they did
with Rafael Flores where they brought him up and had him,
you know, catch him play first base, there's a chance
that you know that Valdez could make a push to
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be a platoon first baseman. With Spencer Horwitz as a
right handed bat, and maybe play a little bit the outfield.
But the problem there is, if you're not going to
earn a starting job, you're not going to play every day.
And if you're not playing every day, that could hurt
your development. Yeah, and so a lot of times people say, oh,
this guy should come up. Well, if he's not a starter,
it's it's not working for his development. Yeah, I don't
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want to give them a chance to play every day
because you know, the guys that are the starters are
going to want to be the ones that play on a
daily basis. So I don't expect him to make the
team out of spring training, but he could be, you know,
at twenty one years old, and I think he's like
six to two. He's listed at one eighty one. He
looks thicker than that, so he might be closer to
two hundred something. But there's a power bat in the system. Thankfully,
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that's good news. All right, thanks keV Abby. What are
we talking about?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
At the top of the hour, We're going to talk
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why not walk a Fame? Halloween trends, and an Ohio
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Speaker 3 (29:52):
Plus we got Jerry Doulac coming up at eight forty five.
We're going to do a deep dive on that show.
Hey Otani performance over the weekend, and as keV said,
one for the ages, and we got Ben's up next.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
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the Trib hanging in studio all morning long.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Welcoming our guest, brought to you by Don's Appliances, where
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Knife of Pittsburgh Sports Media, Tim Benz joins us morning.
Speaker 13 (30:48):
Benzi, How you doing, by guys, how we join doing.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
All right, I guess now that we've all had some
time to fully digest the game that tomlin manifested Thursday,
Now where are we? Because anytime I tried to nap
over the weekend, I feel like Jamar Chase caught a
couple of quick slants in my dreams.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
It's like Freddy Krueger Nightmare and Elton Street right around. Now.
Speaker 13 (31:12):
Yeah, that's kind of the way I was too, And
I wrote about it today for the trip about how
I thought that was a sobering reality check for the
Steelers and where they really are, not only in terms
of their on field performance and things that need to
get better like fixing the defense, but also big picture wise.
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You know, for as much as we wanted to talk
about how much better they were and how improved they
were from last year, I mean, there were four and
two with justin fields. So let's not get ahead of ourselves,
particularly with three good teams current playoff bracket teams on
the horizon.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, what is their biggest problem as they head towards
the game against Green Bay and into the rest of
the season. Is it scheme, is it personnel or is
it both?
Speaker 13 (32:04):
Now I think it's both and I think the biggest
thing is what they have in house just has to
do better, and there's less and less evidence that that's
going to be the case throughout the whole season. As
this season moves along, you know, we hoped after the
first couple of weeks that the hangover that existed from
twenty twenty four and how they were performing defensively was lifting.
(32:27):
You know, we were two gatorades and a handful of
advilt in starting to feel like, you know, the coconut
water had started to work and we were rehydrating again.
You know that that changed because I think oddly enough,
after everybody was hungover in Dublin or coming back to Dublin,
the defense looked like it had turn a corner, and
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I think the momentum of that carried over against the
team right to be beaten coming back from Europe themselves
in the Cleveland Browns, and they overwhelmed Dylan Gabriel. Well,
they were making turnovers, they were hitting.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Guys hard, they were getting to the quarterback, and.
Speaker 13 (33:06):
It looked like we had talked about it looking in August,
and then it regressed back to what it looked like
in December or January of last year there was a
non existent team in terms of running the football on
the other side of the line of scrimmage. The Bengals
ran all over them. They didn't get to Joe Flacco
but twice once early once late in forty nine drop
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backs to sack him. Just a lot started to look
familiar again defensively, and to me, that was very alarming
against a team that I think should have been beaten
on Thursday.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
The regression of the defense is a big thing that
we talked about Friday morning, Tim and when you were
breaking down Thursday night football in your Trib article, which
huge shout out, by the way, for working Ace Frehelia
in there.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
You get major bonus points for that. Well done.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
There's a deep cut reference too.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
I thought you went unmasked. How did you get in
the unmasked? I didn't even know that was in you.
But great job.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
But you know, talking about the defense is obviously going
to be a hot button issue, but the offense is
not without its fault in that loss.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Yeah, the offense.
Speaker 13 (34:12):
This is ninety percent a defensive problem. There were just
some things about the offense that contributed that. It was
just annoying, Like there are annoying elements of the offense,
like they tried to get tricky a couple of times
and it didn't work. You know, from the loss specifically,
you look at the flea flicker that went awry. You
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look at the fact that you know they tried that
screen pass it didn't work.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
The push push didn't work. They had some costly penalties.
Speaker 13 (34:41):
I think the bigger picture stuff on offense though it
was more team construct like it was great that the
Titands put the stamp of the game that.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
We expected right. Friar Ruth was great. The other tight
ends all.
Speaker 13 (34:56):
Scored, but still highlighted is they don't have a number
two wide receiver. And when you see George Pickens play
the way that he played in Dallas yesterday and the
way that he has played since Cede Lamb went out,
now those two are ductailing really nicely as a wide
receiver tandem.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It just underscores where.
Speaker 13 (35:15):
They have failed to backfill again for a second year
in a row after a departing wide receiver, and if
something should happen to DK Metcalf, they're going to be
really screwed, especially if they go through a swath of
games here where they're gonna have to outscore decent competition.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I mean, I think that they forced the ball to DK,
maybe in the wrong spots, but I still think we
have to get him the ball more. I understand we
don't have a second wide receiver, Tim, but you know,
quick slants work on other teams too, not just the Steelers,
and it seemed like early in the season they got
him the ball quick and let him do what he
does best, which is run angry over people. And it
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seems like they've gone away from that a little bit
and are more obsessed with the deep ball down the sideline.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Part that is.
Speaker 13 (36:00):
Recognition of what Rogers has seen at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
And you know, like in that Jets game, two.
Speaker 13 (36:06):
Of those plays you're talking about were two of the
only three plays were sauce. Gardner wasn't on them, so
they just stepped back through the ball to.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Him and let him go. So that was smart. I
think that a couple of times they did that against Minnesota.
It was about Rogers reading.
Speaker 13 (36:19):
What was that the line of scrimmage and knowing where
to go with the ball, and he placed it perfectly
because he's good at that.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
So I don't mind so much trying to get him.
Speaker 13 (36:28):
The ball in fifty to fifty situations because they need
the chunk plays.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
It's very difficult.
Speaker 13 (36:33):
To be right eleven, twelve, thirteen plays in a row
all the time, and they were getting in that habit
of leaning into that. It's like, you know, one criticism
that I pointed out is did they get away from
the run maybe a little too much in the second
half after Jalen Warren is having a really good game
against the Bengals. And I kind of throw that out
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there more from discussion than I do true criticism, because
the inner kind of football me, he just wants to
see them try to hit DK and use him as
a weapon when they can.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
And it can't have it both ways. You can't just.
Speaker 13 (37:07):
Lean into the ground game all the time and ignore
the six foot four wide.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Receiver down the sideline with all those athletic gifts.
Speaker 13 (37:13):
You got to find a balance, and largely I thought
the offense did that Thursday. I'm just speaking more to
the big picture, like I said, point that they need
some more help to distribute the passing game, especially when
you look at Dallas, who has that perfectly right now
with the two wide receivers, backs that can catch the
ball if they need them to, and a tight ender
score twice.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Tim Kevin Gorman, speaking to the tight ends, oneted to
ask you about what you thought of using Pat Fryarmuth
in the role that they did, which he kind of
stepped in almost as an extra wide receiver. But do
you think that that Friar Mooth starts to take on
a larger role in the offense now or do you
think he becomes a trade candidate And if there's trades
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you'd like to see kind of which direction you'd like
to see the Steelers add category.
Speaker 13 (38:01):
Well, the first part of that, yes, I mean, like
this is what we talked about. If they're not going
to have a second wide receiver per se, especially if
Austin is hurt, if he's out of it, then it's
got to be the collective of the tight ends has
to be the second wide receiver. And they were that
against a vulnerable Bengals defense, and Friar Muth was chief
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among them as the big play target at tight end.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
But he's a Bengals killer. I mean, really you can
associate with.
Speaker 13 (38:32):
This Kevin and covering the pirates like him against the
Bengals is like pool Holes against the Pirates. So the
way they talked about him though, like all the time
you hear Thomas say, well, he's his own killer, he's
his zone killer, he's his own killer. Well, they got
to find ways to get him the ball and man
and man situation too.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
They just have to if they're going to be structured
this way.
Speaker 13 (38:52):
So I tend to look at the tight Ends as
a group that replaces the concept of another two wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
It doesn't mean that they shouldn't look for one in
a trade.
Speaker 13 (39:02):
I wouldn't trade Friar Mooves for that though, because then
you're just swapping one problem for another.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
See what they do.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
They got green Bay here Sunday Night Football. That's Tim
Benz joining us like he does each and every Monday
year round.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Benz, thanks so much. We're gonna talk to you again
next week.
Speaker 13 (39:18):
I'm sure the Green Bay versus Aaron Rodgers stuff will
be totally subtled, not at all overcovered or overwrought to.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Oh yeah, no background noise. All right, good stuff, Tim.
We'll talk to you again next week.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Abby. What do we got next?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
We're gonna talk about the Pittsburgh Walk of fame, which
happens this morning.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
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Speaker 14 (39:39):
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Speaker 4 (39:50):
Here's Tom Opferman.
Speaker 15 (39:51):
The Steelers fought a four and two on the season
thanks to the thirty three thirty one Thursday night football
loss of the hands of the Cincinnati Bengals. One silver
lining though for the team and the loss, was the
production of the tight ends and the Steelers' offense is
passing game one hundred and.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Forty one of quarterback Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 15 (40:04):
Two hundred and forty nine passing yards went to tight
ends against Cincy, and all four of Rogers touchdown passes
on the evening were to a tight end. Johnny Smith
and Darnell Washington both caught a touchdown a piece from
their quarterback, but it was Pat Fryarmuth who led the
way in the receiving department. He caught five balls on
six targets for a team leading one hundred and eleven
receiving yards, and he also had two touchdowns, including a
sixty eight yard touchdown catch that gave the Steelers the
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lead late in the fourth quarter. Friarmuth had been struggling
not only to produce statistically, but just to see snaps
on the field in recent weeks, so this breakout performance
of the season was a welcome development for the team,
even if it didn't ultimately result.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
In the victory.
Speaker 15 (40:38):
It's likely wide receiver Calvin Austin the third will be
back for the Packers on Sunday Night Football this week.
But even if that's the case, hopefully the tight ends
and Friarmuth in particular's production and usage starts to become
more of a trend. I'm tom op from him with
the Steelers report.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
That being said, bitching about the Browns no trading Flacco
was a bad look for Mike Tomlin and it made
it look worse last night.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, I thought it was gamesmanship and they were gonna
come out and come after him, and that is not
what happened.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Now it just looks like the guy who loves to
come out and say.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We do not care is like, why did they do
this to us?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
It looks bad.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You know that. And then Austin.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Powers when he gets run over, when the guy gets
run over by the forklift. Yeah, but it's like one
hundred yards away. It's like, dude, we saw this coming. Yeah,
as soon as the trade was made, it was like no.
Speaker 7 (01:12):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Brandy Bellman and the DV morning Show.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
We were processing so much of our pain.
Speaker 8 (01:20):
Yeah on Friday, and we still will continue to do that.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You think, oh yeah, you think not through it?
Speaker 7 (01:28):
No Steelers football, and we were through it.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm not over this and I can't stop thinking about
it no matter where I look. No, because that was
the time to kick a divisional opponent off a cliff. Yeah,
not to give them newfound life with their forty year
old quarterback. And that's exactly what we did. And by
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the way, the road is about to get narrow, you know.
I mean we got Green Bay coming to town this Sunday. Yeah,
we got at Indianapolis, who is playing out of their
mind this year. There's the surprise team of the year
because of the way Danny Dimes is playing. We play
the Bengals again, right, So Joe Burrow is gonna or
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Joe Flacco's coming to town. Sorry I called him Joe
Burrow because that's what he looked like on Thursday night.
And you know, we still got the Ravens twice at
the end of the season, when Lamar is most likely
going to be healthy. So I know that everybody thinks
they're dead, but they're They're never dead to me. I
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just I have a hard time that how many times
in our adult life have the Ravens been like completely
out of a season. I don't remember that many times
They've been competitive, just like we have. That's why that
rivalry for me is the strongest, is because that rivalry
was forged in the postseason.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Yeah, that's why we hate them.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
That's why we hate them. We battled them.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We I mean, I feel like we've gotten the better
of them in the postseason. You know, we beat them
to go to a super Bowl that we won. They've
knocked us off a few times in the playoffs of
late I mean last year they blew our doors off,
and so you know, I'm still not I'm still not
over it. I still don't know how we fix what
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ails us.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
There's a lot of challenges. I'm glad.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
You know, we'll get to talk with Tim Benz a bit,
which you know he kind of always revs the engine,
so he'll be on a little Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
He's not gonna calm us down.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
No, No, he literally you mad, bro, so.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like yeah, and I feel like he's talking directly to us.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
He is, So he'll be a little later on this hour,
I did see like a.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
Koboli tweet saying that if the season ended today, This
was yesterday because I was watching nothing, but you know,
football and everything that I watch is in the context
of how it impacts the Steelers. Yeah, but he said
if the season ended today, the Steelers would win the
AFC North and be the fourth seed. They would host
Buffalo in a first round playoff game.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
That's cool.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
And then I'm like, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Oh you like that stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
See I can't stand that ye season ended today. Oh
you mean a quarter of the way through the season.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
That's like all the tiny little bit of like chum
in the water that I need.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
I'm like, all right, Coboli, let's go.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
Well you both put a sandwich in our pocket and
let's go.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
There's so many people telling us so many different things.
If you have the Cobolis of the world talking every
week about if the season ended right here, then you
have you know, the Max Starks of the world, who
is much more calm and collected and even keeled, saying, well,
you got to give these guys five to six weeks
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on the offensive line to really even know what you have.
And then you have you know, the actual like hardcore
Tomlin haters that like, this season is done, it's already
over fire, Tomlin, move on. And then you have the
rest of us who are kind of in the mushy
middle that are like, I don't know what to make
of this team. A Rod has been the pleasant surprise, right, Like,
(05:12):
I feel like we're doing things offensively, like we're starting
to come together, But defensively, what is going on?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
Yeah, I think we're getting run on.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
We're getting passed on. It will we can't get off
the field.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
On third down.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
Defensively is the hardest to take because again it was
so much of the narrative, especially when we were at
training camp. That was because again, offensively, the biggest story
is that Aaron Rodgers is leading the way and we've
seen a lot of it, even though there are offensive
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problems as well, and that is going to be what
we talked with Tim about is you know, that's one
element of it, is that.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
There's fall on both sides. Your boys not.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Not playing complimentary ball.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
No, But defensively I think is the biggest shocker because
we do have the personnel to have and a ton
of money and a ton of money that there should
be really no issue. I mean we have we have
shark eyes right there with TJ. Watt, you know, like
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there's so there's.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
So many just unbelievable historic players.
Speaker 8 (06:33):
Yeah, and for the historic defense that we were promised,
Like this just isn't what it should look like.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, I got to get this out now, and
this is a perfect place to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's right out of the gate. It's just me and
you sitting here talking.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Mike and Randy are off today, by the way, we
got Kevin Gorman filling in with sports. But this is
a feeling that I've had sort of in the back
of my head. I don't want to say it out
loud because I don't know for a it's not gospel,
it's not definitely the truth. But the Tomlin defense is
predicated on turnovers, right, Like, you got to turn the
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ball over, and.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
We do that very well.
Speaker 9 (07:12):
But I feel like that is the fatal flaw in
the philosophy, like the philosophy of defense that Tomlin has, because.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Number one, when you when you talk about turning the
ball over and getting turnovers and creating splash, you're playing
more individual ball, like it's about the individual player getting
that turnover, right, So you have guys thinking in that
way and not in a collective And then you get
into the postseason and teams are better coached there, you know,
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safer with the ball, they're more conservative, they don't turn
the ball over. And what happens is these defenses give
up a ton of yards, but then they get the turnover, right,
so it kind of negates all the yards that they
gave up. It might like look not the greatest, but
then there's a splash play. But if you take away
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that splash, you're just getting dog walked up and down
the field all day. And against playoff teams, it clearly
isn't working.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It hasn't worked.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So when I see that in a game where the
Bengals are prone to turning the ball over just like
anybody else else, and we're not winning those battles and
getting those turnovers and actually they're getting a couple, I'm like, well,
we're not going to beat any good team with any
quarterback that knows what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
With this kind of defense.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
They're just going to pick the soft zone apart, work
it all the way down the field and then you know,
punch it in or they get a big splash play
where there's a completely wide open broken play and they score.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
And when you're looking for splash plays and you have,
again going back to personnel, so many names that are
just disappearing where you're just like.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Hey, what happens, where's he been?
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yeah again, we you know, we get the opportunity to
talk to players sometimes and when we talked with herbig
and we're like, Wow, man, this guy's ready to bust out.
And then the next week, you know, he has a game.
Be like, didn't mention him at all. Nope, didn't even.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Hear his name.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Where was he?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
He wasn't on the field because the Steelers couldn't stop
the run, so they were putting in high Smith yeah,
and taking him off the field. And he's like one
of the hottest players in the league right now. I
mean he's leading the Steelers in sacks, so stuff like that.
I'm just like, ah, you know, I don't know from
a strategy standpoint, yeah, you know, but I know that
(09:42):
they're going to have to figure it out and they're
going to get another chance because here comes Josh Jacobs,
yeah and the Green Bay Packers and this is the
Aaron Rodgers revenge game.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
And yeah, to me, this is more of a revenge
game than the Jets.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
To me.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
The thing for Rogers, I don't think he was downplaying.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean, I think he wanted to stick it to
that coach that basically may fly across the country to
tell him to take a hike.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Yeah, and we wanted to see fields. I get all
of that.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
But like to me, this is the actual revenge came,
So of course we'll get into all of that, and
then with Tim Benz and Jerry Doula is going to
be on the show as well, Yes he is.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Thank you for letting me get that out.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I appreciate Listen in the safe space. Yeah, this is
the safe space again.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
As Bill mentioned, Randy's off today and Mike is off,
so we'll chat with Kevin Gorman as well.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
He'll be hitting us with sports at the bottom of
the hour.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
News.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
This hour is brought to you by your neighborhood Ford Store,
Cloudy Skies today and it's going to be a high
of fifty nine. I start you off with a little
bit of music news here. And this was a big
shocker yesterday. Limp Biscuit basis Sam Rivers has passed away.
And the shocker here is because Limp Biscuit is pretty
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active once again and Sam Rivers just forty eight years old.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Oh my god, No cause of death was real. Well,
that's what's weird here.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Back in twenty twenty, Rivers had admitted that when he
left the band back in twenty fifteen, it was because
of liver disease which was caused by excessive drinking, and
he had received a liver transplant, but then he rejoined
the band back in twenty eighteen, so there's really not
a lot of information after that as to whether that
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helped him kind of achieve a healthy lifestyle and if
that changed his life after that. So anything beyond that
is speculation. But the band announced his passing late Saturday night,
saying that Sam Rivers wasn't just our bass player. He
was pure magic. It was the pulse beneath every song.
It was the calm in the chaos. I don't know
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if there was any calm in their chaos, but it
was the soul in the sound. And his presence is
unforgettable and his heart was enormous. Rivers met Fred Durst
while they were working at a Chick fil A at
a mall in Jacksonville, Florida. Oh really Yeah, and they
hit it off.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Wait, how long has Chick fil A been out?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (12:10):
As long as Limp Biscuit.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
That's crazy because I don't know why, but I just
I feel like Chick fil A is pretty.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
New, But I have to I mean, maybe maybe we.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just weren't paying attention to it because it just never registered.
Like when I think of my childhood, certainly I never
register Chick fil A.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Same Chick fil A wasn't anything for me.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
I mean maybe it's just like the marketing of Chick
fil A and the pop of using the cows and
everything and just being like, oh, what's up.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, we're here now we're revamped.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, you know what's crazy is Limp Biscuit went away
for a long time, and I feel like they just
resurfaced twenty twenty one or twenty twenty, like they did
a festival and Fred Durst had gray hair and he
came out and like he looked his look went viral.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Do you remember this, yes.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Where he looked like an FBI agent that was in
his sixties.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
They have leaned into the fact that as much, you know,
as sonically it is not what you would say, is
dad rock, that that's kind of what they are now
because dads grew up listening to Lymphiscuit. But he's had
several looks on stage where yes, he's he's great, and
he's got a beard. And actually Sam Rivers kind of
(13:34):
looked like this too, Like Sam Rivers doesn't look or
didn't look that different than from Kyle Gas from Tenacious Team,
you know, but you know, Fred durstill gets on stage sometimes,
you know, grade and in overalls, you know, and really
does lean into Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
No, I'm an old man now, dude, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
And so my bisket really is lamp out.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I need blue Choo for my biscuit.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Bluetoo Biscuit is our revamped name.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Limp Biscuit sponsored by Blue Choe. But to your point,
Limp Biscuit obviously so huge in the nineties. I think
once they did the revamped Woodstock and they had you know,
that huge wash pit.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Oh you're talking about the ninety nine Woodstock.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, the bad one.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, the bad one that they actually incited a riot at.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
I think that was probably the apex of people's tolerance
of them, because it really did highlight the let's say
male violence aspect of their I don't want to say
(14:57):
music because I don't I don't like kind of lumping
that in where you know, obviously, there's been so many
times in music history where it's like it's the music
that's making everybody like this, and it's like, well, it's
culture or if the.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Music is attracting a certain kind of person.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, the word in cell was not in our vernacular
at that point, but it was just young white males
with a lot of anger and frustration, right, and they
would come to those concerts and really act that out,
mosh and go crazy and punch each other in the face.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
The loaners they find their thing, and they may find
themselves in music, they might find themselves in a chat room,
they might find themselves in a variety of places. But
there was some element of, you know, a need to
express that violent aspect that that band attracted in a
(15:56):
way definitely when they.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Found a home there.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
But that particular moment in time and in culture I
think was a bit of an apex for them, and
so there was a little bit of a backlash of
being like, ugh, you.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Know, can we move on from this?
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Like I've had enough monster energy drink for now, I
can't do this right more.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And so that time period fascinates me the end of
the nineties because it was all the Y two K stuff,
like what's gonna happen when all the computers switch over
to the two thousands and all those zeros?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Is everything going to reset? Is all our stuff gonna
be lost totally and just for us.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Like I was graduating high school going out into the world,
like there was there was so much packed into the nineties.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
Yeah, and I think for what Limp Biscuit was doing,
that almost opened the door musically too for a little
bit of that like New York artsy lo fi scene.
That's where you got bands like The Strokes and the
White Stripes, eventually the Black Keys. You started getting people
who wanted to take it down a notch and get
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like a little back in the garage. Yeah, and you know,
a little less of the you know, Corn Limp Biscuit
Stained kind of bands like and so again. And this
is how music works in cycles. That's why I'm always
kind of like never fully afraid, being like, oh my god,
music's terrible and nothing's ever gonna come out of it.
There's always something becau is.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Always great and always terrible.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
It's a mushroom where are you looking decay and then
something grows out of it.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
I'm always I'm always optimistic something else is coming. But
for Limp Biscuit here, they just kind of have had
this resurgence and they just had a song that came
out called es No it was that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
That was the song they had like four years ago
that when.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
They resurfaced, because it was all about Fred Durst giving
out hardcore dad vibes.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna I have to search it real
quick because I want to get the title right because
it was Magan love to Morgan Wallen. What that was
the name of the song And it went number one?
Like it it exploded it like it's a decent song,
but it.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
Actually was like for Olympus, like it wasn't bad and
it went number one in rock radio, like people lost
their minds over it, and it was all of a sudden.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
It was this narrative like, oh my god, Limbiscuits back,
like Biscuit is.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
So back, and all of the shows are doing great.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
But then now you see the same thing as happening
with Corn like all of them.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, I mean everything from the nineties is back, so
why not the bands?
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Why not them again?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
And that's pretty tough probably for somebody who's got a
new liver and maybe has had some demons that they've
battled and now you're back on the road doing that
whole thing.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
And I think you know, normally when you see somebody
die suddenly you know it. It usually is the simplest explanation.
He either would have had tremendous health challenges from having
a liver transplant then and you can happen and you're
already in a bad situation, or very much to your point,
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you already have challenges like that, and then all of
a sudden you are back in that hamster wheel that
you never imagine to be back in later in your life,
and it's asking you to maybe face demons that you
didn't actually heal, and yeah, yeah, you're right back in there.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
But I did I did that.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
They met at a Chick fil A, met at a
Chick fil A, and then the next thing, you know,
you want to be in a band.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Does Chick fil A have biscuits? I feel like they do.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Oh it sounds delicious right now, like a breakfast biscuit.
Breakfast biscuit? Oh my god, wait, does Chick fil I
do breakfast?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Why are we whispering?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
I don't know. I don't want my stomach to hear.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Are trying to enter in fast.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Let's just end the news sent and just tell us
what the weather's gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You got it?
Speaker 7 (20:11):
It's gonna be claudiest guys.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Today and.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
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Speaker 5 (21:05):
KeV Morning. Well, how about the uh Alcs There will
be a game seven tonight. Mm hmm, big pitching matchup
on the table here with Shane Bieber facing George Kirby
tonight in Game seven in Toronto. But last night it
was a twenty two year old right hander Trey Y
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Savage who put on a show for the Toronto Blue
Jays and a six to win over the Seattle Mariners.
The Savage started this season in low A. He was
a twenty twenty four first round draft pick, number twenty overall,
So the Pirates passed on this guy, but they took
Connor Griffin as the number one prospect in all of baseball.
But Trey You Savage allowed two runs on six hits
(21:49):
and three walks, had seven strikeouts in five and two
third innings. Wow, and here's the impressive part. Like, that's
a good that's a good line right here. That's a
good one one out away from a quality start for
a twenty two years world rookie. He didn't make his
debut until September fifteenth. He in three consecutive innings he
got the Mariners to ground into inning ending double plays.
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He had not in his first twenty three and one
third innings and the Majors had not got a GIDP
and had only two in ninety eight innings in the minors.
So here's a guy in the most pressure packed situation
of his career gets them to do it. Not just
gets the Mariners to do it, he did it. Cow Rawly,
the and the favorite for the American League MVP Award,
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got him to ground into a three six one, which
is rare because it meant you Savage had to cover
first base in the third inning, JP Crawford in the fourth,
and Julio Rodriguez in the fifth. So big win for
the Blue Jays trying to get back to the World
Series after winning back to back in the early nineties,
Mariners trying to get there for the first time in
franchise history. They're actually a team that has a longer
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World Series drought than the Pirates. So if you can
believe that, Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
It's incredible to me.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
keV like hearing these story worries of this kid like
coming from low a ball, Like just you know, from
the time you get drafted. I mean obviously, if you're
drafted top twenty, you're going to be in the bigs
at some point, but just that road is incredible to
traverse all five levels and maybe those guys are skipping
a level or two, a lot of it.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
This guy started low A, then the high A, double A,
triple A into the majors.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
And in Toronto you're going from at one point I
think you're in like New Hampshire or somewhere, and then
you're going to Vancouver and then you know, somewhere before
that and then Buffalo, like you're bouncing all over.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Dunaden's in the mix, right because that's where Jay Casey is.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, that might where that might have been where he
started with dun Eden.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
So it's kind of an incredible, incredible season for Treya
Savage and you know, topping it off last night.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
What allows a player like that to have that kind
of game in that moment like that he's never had before?
Like how how do you go up to the bigs
and have a game like you've never had before? Or
I guess just belief in yourself confidence.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think it's the ability, like the mental capacity to
focus and to just lock in on Okay, this is
what I have to do, and not letting allowing the
moment to get too big, because it's you know, when
it comes down to it, they're playing baseball. This is
a game to play their entire lives. But I think
the mental capacity where guys are able to say, okay,
like I'm just out there pitching like I normally would pitch.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, and to compartmentalize the pressure.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yes, And now he's doing it at home at the
Rogers Center, and the crowd was really behind them, and
and so you know that that plays a role in it,
but that also can add pressure.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, right, because the home crowd. You don't want to
let the home crowd down.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
No, And that's but just just the idea that he's
able to do it put on a performance like that, Yes,
And they took advantage. You know, Seattle had some shaky
defensive plays. They took advantage of playing some small ball
and getting a couple runs across early that way. And
then Vlad Guerrero hit a solo shot in the fifth inning,
was the sixth home run of the postseason, tying Joe
car and Jose Bautista for the most by the Blue Jays,
(25:03):
most by a Blue Jay individual in a single playoff run.
And so you know, we kind of foreshadowed that. We'll
talk a little bit later about the show. Heya tawny performance,
but he had won for the ages. The Dodgers swept
the Brewers, who had the best record in all of
baseball this season, and they're going to be waiting for
the winner of tonight's game. That World Series Game one
is Friday, but you got tonight. Well, you know, I
(25:26):
was all Mariners all the way. But now it looks
decidedly in the favor of the Blue Jays, given how
well Guerrero's playing. I think they said at one point
that he was something like nine for his last sixteen
at one point. I mean, this is a guy and
he's killing the ball. Yeah, and he's making great plays
on defense too, which is, you know, he's an offensive player,
but making some terrific plays at first base. And then
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they have a little bit of an advantage that they
have a former Cy Young winner and Shane Bieber is
on the mound, and they've got a three time Sy
Young winner in the bullpen and Max Scherzer, who gave
his manager hell when he tried to come out for
him in his life starts, so you know, it's like,
I'm not coming out of the game, you go back
into the dugout that type of add.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Hasn't he been hurt all year, like he doesn't played
a time.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
That's that's the thing is, here's a guy who has
a couple of World Series Championships under his belt.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
HM.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
So you know, here's a guy who's a gamer in
the postseason, and you know, Mad Max the nickname, almost
pitched the perfect game against the Pirates if you were
called out one I remember being I remember being in
the Mad mex and Robinson and screaming at the TV
when Tabada and you know, I'm in a restaurant making
a scene and I'm like, you got to be kidding me,
you know.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So I saw an interview with him once.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You know, he's got those crazy like husky eyes where
he has a brown eye and a blue eye, and
he's like, sometimes he comes out of the bullpen or
he comes out of the dugout and he's he's got
this demonic look on his face. And he said, when
he has that kind of look on his face, he's
pitching out of the brown eye, which was one of
the craziest sentences I've.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Ever heard anybody. Say, you don't want to be on
the wrong end of the brown.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
So that there is a guarantee for former Pirates to
be in the World Series, and I'm sure Pirates fans
love reveling and their misery in this part of it.
But the Dodgers have two former Pirates pitchers and starter
Tyler Glasnow and lefty reliever Anthony Bonda. The Blue Jays
have Isaiah Kinda Falfa who was spent the majority of
the season with the Pirates, and the Mariners have lefty
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reliever Caleb Ferguson, who also was traded at the deadline.
So there will be former Pirates in the World Series
one way or the other on both.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Sides, on both sides.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
So someone for Pirates fans the root for they can't
root for anybody else. Just to stick to the baseball theme,
the Pirates have a prospect who is just killing the
ball in a way that nobody else is in baseball
right now, Ezmerlin Valdez, twenty one year old outfielder, first baseman,
who's their number fifteen prospect. He's trying to convince the
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Pirates to put him on their forty man roster and
protect him from the Rule five draft. And that has
to do with how many years of service since you signed,
especially for international players, this is the guy they signed
out of the Dominican for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
He's playing in the Arizona Fall League and has he
went three for four with a double, two homers, four
RBIs yesterday gives him seven homers and eight games in
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the Arizona Fall LOP. So there's a little bit of
hope for the Pirates is that this is a guy
who had an incredible season and if not for Connor
Griffin would be in the running for their probably minor
league Player of the Year. But putting on a bit
of a show in the Arizona Fall League. So that
has Pirates fans, you know, getting them going right now.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Any chance that either or both of them see the
field next year.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
There's a possibility. He finished the season in Double A,
only played fifty one games there, so he's probably going
to get a season at least start the season in
Triple A. But you know, there's given what they did
with Rafael Flores where they brought him up and had him,
you know, catch him play first base, there's a chance
that you know that Valdez could make a push to
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be a platoon first baseman. With Spencer Horwitz as a
right handed bat, and maybe play a little bit the outfield.
But the problem there is, if you're not going to
earn a starting job, you're not going to play every day.
And if you're not playing every day, that could hurt
your development. Yeah, and so a lot of times people say, oh,
this guy should come up. Well, if he's not a starter,
it's it's not working for his development. Yeah, I don't
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want to give them a chance to play every day
because you know, the guys that are the starters are
going to want to be the ones that play on a
daily basis. So I don't expect him to make the
team out of spring training, but he could be, you know,
at twenty one years old, and I think he's like
six to two. He's listed at one eighty one. He
looks thicker than that, so he might be closer to
two hundred something. But there's a power bat in the system. Thankfully,
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that's good news. All right, thanks keV Abby. What are
we talking about?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
At the top of the hour, We're going to talk
Pittsburgh Wall of Walk of Fame, A Wall of Fame,
why not walk a Fame? Halloween trends, and an Ohio
jag jumped the Elephant enclosure at the Zoo.
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Plus we got Jerry Doulac coming up at eight forty five.
We're going to do a deep dive on that show.
Hey Otani performance over the weekend, and as keV said,
one for the ages, and we got Ben's up next.
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Benzi, How you doing, by guys, how we join doing.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
All right, I guess now that we've all had some
time to fully digest the game that tomlin manifested Thursday,
Now where are we? Because anytime I tried to nap
over the weekend, I feel like Jamar Chase caught a
couple of quick slants in my dreams.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
It's like Freddy Krueger Nightmare and Elton Street right around. Now.
Speaker 13 (31:12):
Yeah, that's kind of the way I was too, And
I wrote about it today for the trip about how
I thought that was a sobering reality check for the
Steelers and where they really are, not only in terms
of their on field performance and things that need to
get better like fixing the defense, but also big picture wise.
(31:34):
You know, for as much as we wanted to talk
about how much better they were and how improved they
were from last year, I mean, there were four and
two with justin fields. So let's not get ahead of ourselves,
particularly with three good teams current playoff bracket teams on
the horizon.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, what is their biggest problem as they head towards
the game against Green Bay and into the rest of
the season. Is it scheme, is it personnel or is
it both?
Speaker 13 (32:04):
Now I think it's both and I think the biggest
thing is what they have in house just has to
do better, and there's less and less evidence that that's
going to be the case throughout the whole season. As
this season moves along, you know, we hoped after the
first couple of weeks that the hangover that existed from
twenty twenty four and how they were performing defensively was lifting.
(32:27):
You know, we were two gatorades and a handful of
advilt in starting to feel like, you know, the coconut
water had started to work and we were rehydrating again.
You know that that changed because I think oddly enough,
after everybody was hungover in Dublin or coming back to Dublin,
the defense looked like it had turn a corner, and
(32:48):
I think the momentum of that carried over against the
team right to be beaten coming back from Europe themselves
in the Cleveland Browns, and they overwhelmed Dylan Gabriel. Well,
they were making turnovers, they were hitting.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Guys hard, they were getting to the quarterback, and.
Speaker 13 (33:06):
It looked like we had talked about it looking in August,
and then it regressed back to what it looked like
in December or January of last year there was a
non existent team in terms of running the football on
the other side of the line of scrimmage. The Bengals
ran all over them. They didn't get to Joe Flacco
but twice once early once late in forty nine drop
(33:28):
backs to sack him. Just a lot started to look
familiar again defensively, and to me, that was very alarming
against a team that I think should have been beaten
on Thursday.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
The regression of the defense is a big thing that
we talked about Friday morning, Tim and when you were
breaking down Thursday night football in your Trib article, which
huge shout out, by the way, for working Ace Frehelia
in there.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
You get major bonus points for that. Well done.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
There's a deep cut reference too.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
I thought you went unmasked. How did you get in
the unmasked? I didn't even know that was in you.
But great job.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
But you know, talking about the defense is obviously going
to be a hot button issue, but the offense is
not without its fault in that loss.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Yeah, the offense.
Speaker 13 (34:12):
This is ninety percent a defensive problem. There were just
some things about the offense that contributed that. It was
just annoying, Like there are annoying elements of the offense,
like they tried to get tricky a couple of times
and it didn't work. You know, from the loss specifically,
you look at the flea flicker that went awry. You
(34:32):
look at the fact that you know they tried that
screen pass it didn't work.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
The push push didn't work. They had some costly penalties.
Speaker 13 (34:41):
I think the bigger picture stuff on offense though it
was more team construct like it was great that the
Titands put the stamp of the game that.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
We expected right. Friar Ruth was great. The other tight
ends all.
Speaker 13 (34:56):
Scored, but still highlighted is they don't have a number
two wide receiver. And when you see George Pickens play
the way that he played in Dallas yesterday and the
way that he has played since Cede Lamb went out,
now those two are ductailing really nicely as a wide
receiver tandem.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It just underscores where.
Speaker 13 (35:15):
They have failed to backfill again for a second year
in a row after a departing wide receiver, and if
something should happen to DK Metcalf, they're going to be
really screwed, especially if they go through a swath of
games here where they're gonna have to outscore decent competition.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I mean, I think that they forced the ball to DK,
maybe in the wrong spots, but I still think we
have to get him the ball more. I understand we
don't have a second wide receiver, Tim, but you know,
quick slants work on other teams too, not just the Steelers,
and it seemed like early in the season they got
him the ball quick and let him do what he
does best, which is run angry over people. And it
(35:53):
seems like they've gone away from that a little bit
and are more obsessed with the deep ball down the sideline.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Part that is.
Speaker 13 (36:00):
Recognition of what Rogers has seen at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
And you know, like in that Jets game, two.
Speaker 13 (36:06):
Of those plays you're talking about were two of the
only three plays were sauce. Gardner wasn't on them, so
they just stepped back through the ball to.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Him and let him go. So that was smart. I
think that a couple of times they did that against Minnesota.
It was about Rogers reading.
Speaker 13 (36:19):
What was that the line of scrimmage and knowing where
to go with the ball, and he placed it perfectly
because he's good at that.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
So I don't mind so much trying to get him.
Speaker 13 (36:28):
The ball in fifty to fifty situations because they need
the chunk plays.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
It's very difficult.
Speaker 13 (36:33):
To be right eleven, twelve, thirteen plays in a row
all the time, and they were getting in that habit
of leaning into that. It's like, you know, one criticism
that I pointed out is did they get away from
the run maybe a little too much in the second
half after Jalen Warren is having a really good game
against the Bengals. And I kind of throw that out
(36:53):
there more from discussion than I do true criticism, because
the inner kind of football me, he just wants to
see them try to hit DK and use him as
a weapon when they can.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
And it can't have it both ways. You can't just.
Speaker 13 (37:07):
Lean into the ground game all the time and ignore
the six foot four wide.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Receiver down the sideline with all those athletic gifts.
Speaker 13 (37:13):
You got to find a balance, and largely I thought
the offense did that Thursday. I'm just speaking more to
the big picture, like I said, point that they need
some more help to distribute the passing game, especially when
you look at Dallas, who has that perfectly right now
with the two wide receivers, backs that can catch the
ball if they need them to, and a tight ender
score twice.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Tim Kevin Gorman, speaking to the tight ends, oneted to
ask you about what you thought of using Pat Fryarmuth
in the role that they did, which he kind of
stepped in almost as an extra wide receiver. But do
you think that that Friar Mooth starts to take on
a larger role in the offense now or do you
think he becomes a trade candidate And if there's trades
(37:55):
you'd like to see kind of which direction you'd like
to see the Steelers add category.
Speaker 13 (38:01):
Well, the first part of that, yes, I mean, like
this is what we talked about. If they're not going
to have a second wide receiver per se, especially if
Austin is hurt, if he's out of it, then it's
got to be the collective of the tight ends has
to be the second wide receiver. And they were that
against a vulnerable Bengals defense, and Friar Muth was chief
(38:22):
among them as the big play target at tight end.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
But he's a Bengals killer. I mean, really you can
associate with.
Speaker 13 (38:32):
This Kevin and covering the pirates like him against the
Bengals is like pool Holes against the Pirates. So the
way they talked about him though, like all the time
you hear Thomas say, well, he's his own killer, he's
his zone killer, he's his own killer. Well, they got
to find ways to get him the ball and man
and man situation too.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
They just have to if they're going to be structured
this way.
Speaker 13 (38:52):
So I tend to look at the tight Ends as
a group that replaces the concept of another two wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
It doesn't mean that they shouldn't look for one in
a trade.
Speaker 13 (39:02):
I wouldn't trade Friar Mooves for that though, because then
you're just swapping one problem for another.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
See what they do.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
They got green Bay here Sunday Night Football. That's Tim
Benz joining us like he does each and every Monday
year round.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Benz, thanks so much. We're gonna talk to you again
next week.
Speaker 13 (39:18):
I'm sure the Green Bay versus Aaron Rodgers stuff will
be totally subtled, not at all overcovered or overwrought to.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Oh yeah, no background noise. All right, good stuff, Tim.
We'll talk to you again next week.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Abby. What do we got next?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
We're gonna talk about the Pittsburgh Walk of fame, which
happens this morning.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
It's the DVE Morning Show. It's time for.
Speaker 14 (39:39):
The Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought to you by
First National Bank. Let's get started. Remember fdi C and
Steelers Pro Shop. Get it direct from the team at
shop dot Steelers dot com.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Here's Tom Opferman.
Speaker 15 (39:51):
The Steelers fought a four and two on the season
thanks to the thirty three thirty one Thursday night football
loss of the hands of the Cincinnati Bengals. One silver
lining though for the team and the loss, was the
production of the tight ends and the Steelers' offense is
passing game one hundred and.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Forty one of quarterback Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 15 (40:04):
Two hundred and forty nine passing yards went to tight
ends against Cincy, and all four of Rogers touchdown passes
on the evening were to a tight end. Johnny Smith
and Darnell Washington both caught a touchdown a piece from
their quarterback, but it was Pat Fryarmuth who led the
way in the receiving department. He caught five balls on
six targets for a team leading one hundred and eleven
receiving yards, and he also had two touchdowns, including a
sixty eight yard touchdown catch that gave the Steelers the
(40:25):
lead late in the fourth quarter. Friarmuth had been struggling
not only to produce statistically, but just to see snaps
on the field in recent weeks, so this breakout performance
of the season was a welcome development for the team,
even if it didn't ultimately result.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
In the victory.
Speaker 15 (40:38):
It's likely wide receiver Calvin Austin the third will be
back for the Packers on Sunday Night Football this week.
But even if that's the case, hopefully the tight ends
and Friarmuth in particular's production and usage starts to become
more of a trend. I'm tom op from him with
the Steelers report.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
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