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October 20, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
They have leaned into the fact that as much, you know,
as sonically it is not what you would say, is
dad rock that that's kind of what they are now
because dads grew up listening to Limp Biscuit. But he's
had several looks on stage where yes, he's he's great,
and he's got a beard. And actually Sam Rivers kind

(00:28):
of looked like this too, Like Sam Rivers doesn't look
or didn't look that different than from Kyle Gas from
Tenacious Tea, you know. But you know, Fred durstill gets
on stage sometimes, you know, grade and in overalls, you know,
and really does lean into yeah, no, I'm an old

(00:49):
man now, Dude, I don't care and so.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I need blue shoe for my biscuit.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Randy Bellman and the DVE Morning Show.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
It is the DV Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Randy Bauman is off today, same with Mike Pursuitas We've
got Kevin Gorman in for Sports Today, Bill Crawford, I'm
Abby Krisner.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Our producer is Jacob Breck.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Thanks to Tim Benz for joining us last hour to
talk Steelers.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
We're going to be talking with Jerry Dulac later.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
In the show to continue helping us process Thursday Night football,
but we got to get ready for Sunday as well
as the Steelers will be taking on the Packers, so
we got to lick those wounds get ready. Of course,
we are your Steelers flagship here on DVE. Sunday's countdown
to kickoff with Tom Offerman and Matt Williamson begins at
four thirty pm, so you can start plaanning the tailgate now.

(01:41):
Mike Pursuda, Bob Labriola and Jerry Dulac continue the pregame
coverage at six point twenty. Kickoff at eight twenty pm
with Rob King, Max Starks, and Missy Matthews.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
News.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
This hour is brought to you by Keystone Basement Systems,
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High of fifty nine. Mancini's Bread yesterday revealed it's Batman
inspired bread in honor of actor Michael Keaton's appearance for
the launch of the Pittsburgh Walk of Fame, which does

(02:13):
happen today. The bread was displayed at Mancini's Strip District
location because of its proximity to the nearby terminal, which
is where.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
That walk of Fame is going to be located.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
And that ribbon cutting ceremony is going to be at
ten thirty am. So if you don't have a place
to be get down there, you can go ahead and
walk over to the terminal.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Log off and get in the car, right.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I guess why not, especially if you're downtown and you
you know, are going to be kind of close by,
because Michael Keaton is going to be there because he's
getting inducted today, and I think he is the only
person that is definitively going to be there that is
getting inducted, Like he's going to be like the main
celebrity that will absolutely be there.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Because some of them have passed, right Like this is.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So along with Keaton, the first people to get Walk
of Fame stars, which again this is going to be
kind of like set up along that terminal walk will
be noted jazz musician George Benson, pioneering journalist Nellie Bly,
industrialist and philanthropist Andrew Carnegie.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
This is why they can't make it. Conservation that's the bummer.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Conservationist Rachel Carson, Pirates Hall of Famer and humanitarian Roberto Clemente,
Fred Rogers of mister Rogers, neighborhood fame, polio vaccine pioneer
doctor Jonah sulk, Andy Warhol, influential artist and Pulzer Prize
winning playwright August Wilson.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, so he's the only.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
So that's yeah, that's the thing. That's why they booked him.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, I found sure.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's there's family members, like I think we heard that
the we're going to be family members from Klemene there.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, this morning, did you see Junior will be there?

Speaker 4 (04:05):
The Manes bread art.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Bill baking bread, Yeah, in two arts.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yes, it is not easy. It's not easy at all.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Remember the show nailed it?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yes, okay, yes, yeah, you try to make a bread.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's really hard.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
But I mean look if you look at it from afar,
like if I saw it without readers, I'd be like,
that is amazing.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Yeah, right off. Yeah, your sight win a little bit.
Dallas Batman, it's tremendous. Listen, No, it's definitely Batman.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
It measures four feet by four feet. Its two hundred.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Bonds, does it really?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah? Took him four hours to bake.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
That man heavy ass bread.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
That's a lot of carbs.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, that is a lot of carbs.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
And it's delicious.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I can't wait for that picture. I don't know, is
it it's got to be edible, but they painted it.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, but yeah, but you can. You can use food dice.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's it's edible paint.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's edible paint.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, all right, I'm excited for this today.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
No, I am too. I just happy. I'm just happy
when Yeah, you like that, Kevin.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, it's not easy.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
It's not easy. Bread is unpredictable.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, you can't just have bread dough what you wanted
to do?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, everybody who survived uh their sour dough era of COVID.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
When everybody's like, I can make sour dough. I'm a
trad wife.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I can do this, and then learned how hard it
was to just make things on your own.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Shut up about the you know.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
The weird thing is, you know, like you go to
a graduation party. Now they have where they can screen
your face onto the cake and then someone has to
serve part of your face to someone to eat.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
And it's like that.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
They always give it to the grad of course. You know,
hey here, eat your face.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Eat your face off tonight.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I mean they did that for us at the Guinness
factory exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yes, that was part of it.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
So, like you know, they screen, they take, they took
our photo and then they put it at the top
of the foam of our guinness, and both Randy and
I did a cheers and then we tried to, you know,
do the split the g thing. But what we noticed
is that the foam stayed and our photo was still
in the glass. And so it was weird because the

(06:41):
more we drank, our photo was still intact and in
the bottom of the glass. And it was weird to
watch us, like descend.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Your photos stay intact, like though like it looked exactly
the same, or theyd have a little bit of an
intoxication to it.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
That's a sad I'd be like, oh man, Okay, we
did not get to this story last week because again
we were talking so much stealers on Friday. But a
self proclaimed influencer from Ohio is facing charges after police
say he jumped over a fence and into an elephant
enclosure at the Pittsburgh Zoo and Aquarium. So I don't

(07:19):
know if you guys probably like you saw the story,
but I saw the story.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I saw the headline. I didn't see any video from it.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Noah Thomas, nineteen years old looks much older, is facing
several felony charges in connection with the alleged incident. This
took place on September the twenty first. The incident was
captured on video and posted on Instagram. Thomas referred to
himself as a professional gate jumper and used a laughing

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emoji after saying he was almost elephant food. But according
to court paperwork, police said that Thomas's action caused extreme
risk of injury to himself, zoo, staff, zoo, and the
elephant itself, and that Thomas could have been killed if
the elephant had been able to grab him. And by

(08:08):
the way, the postcut like over a hundred likes.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
So totally worth it.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
That stinks.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Not a good influencer.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Wow, okay, so is he just getting started.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, it's just that's an okay jumper, I mean, not
very good at it.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, that's that's dumb. I mean there are things out
there that are dumb. That is that's one of the dumbest. Yeah,
to go into those enclosures, I mean some of those enclosures,
it's almost like they are there idiot proof and they've
had the idiot proof more of that zoo as we've
gone along here.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
But you know, I just remember going to that tiger.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Exhibit and there's a ravine in between where you are
and where they are, So it's not even possible in
a lot of those enclosures.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Did you see recently I'm trying to remember which zoo
with this was that I wish would have pulled it up.
Actually where just very recently there was a gorilla that
ran into the glass.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, cracked it like terrifying.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Just don't get any closer than you've already been permitted.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's not smart.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
There's even the Columbus Zoo is a really nice zoo,
and the way that they even have their setup is
they have kind of natural enclosures so you really don't
even feel like you're far away from the animals because.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
That's the one you can drive through.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Because isn't that the one that Jack Hannah like that
was home zoo?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, And what's nice about it is they have again
when I say natural enclosures, they kind of have it
set up so that the.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Barriers are what you know, you almost as.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
A patron, can't perceive that there's barriers between you and
the animals, because they have it set up where there's
like almost like dips and like rocks, and the way
that they are visually set up, you kind of can't
tell that the animal can't get past it.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right, they hide the enclosure, right.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
But I could see in the stupid human trick brain
where you go like I can get over that.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, But in this influencer world where you know, somebody
like this Noah guy goes this is worth a hundred likes.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I mean they have the same kind of setup at Disney,
at the Animal Kingdom, they have that safari.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Have you ever done that?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
No, I have seen, though it looks amazing.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
It is that one is not like you're at a
zoo at all. You're just on the plane. And when
we were there, we're on one of those huge like
just like those ducky tour boats. Yeah, and a giraffe
started running after the truck and I was just like
I had this moment where I'm like, this all could

(10:47):
be a total disaster. Like we're thinking, oh, they're Disney,
they have it all figured out, but they don't, and
things happen there.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's still an animal, Yeah, it still has free will.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
A very large animal.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, have you ever been, Like, I don't know about you.
I have been to that summer safari before at the zoo.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
It's a nearly.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Fundraiser that they do, and one of them many years ago,
because I actually don't know if it's still something that's permitted.
You could walk up to the elephant enclosure and with
a staff member you could touch an elephant on the
trunk like they and I remember, like, you think you're

(11:35):
gonna be chill, yeah, And as soon as you do that,
you're just like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Like, this is prehistoric. Yeah, of course, And there's almost.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
A part of you that like feels like I just
shouldn't be allowed to do this.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, I've seen I've seen videos of people like feeding
the elephants, yeah, and feeding the different animals, and then
you know they either get frisky and like go down
a woman's cleavage or grab somebody's hair.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's it's stunning in a way that like immediately almost
made me want to cry in a way because again,
there was something about it that felt a little spiritual
in nature, because you're just like, this is.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
We're so disconnected from nature.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
We're so disconnected from nature. But this is also like
a creature that's like beyond my comprehension.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yea in a way onspiring.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, it really was. It really was.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
But again the size of it as well, the hubris
of this person to be liked and take them like.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I never had a great experience at the zoo.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Like I would take the girls and we would go
to the tiger exhibit and they'd either be laying down
or they weren't even there.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I couldn't see them in the grass was so high.
I'm like, are they sleeping behind a rock? Is this
what this is?

Speaker 7 (12:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Because I'm I'm I love those animals. I want to
see them, but it's like, am I really seeing them?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
They're in somebody's backyard and they're miserable.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, they're depressed. They're like, I, I'm.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
From the you know, the desert or the jungle. I'm
not from Highland Park.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
They also know that the Steelers are oh and seven
and Thursday night football games under Tomlin against AFC nor Thames.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't know if you saw that.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Last week, during an interview with Howard Stern, Jennifer Lopez
said that she never felt loved by any of her exes.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I did see this.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
This is the kicker, because I'm sure she's very easy
to live with.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
She said it was their fault.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Oh, which is so she's processed it.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Well, yeah, it sounds like she's done the work.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
She said, quote what I learned is I learned that
it's not that I'm not lovable. It's that they're not capable.
It's that they don't have it in them. They need
to appreciate the little person inside of them. They need
to love them.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Well.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Ohani Noah, who was married to j Lo from nineteen
ninety seven to nineteen ninety eight, did not take that
lying down. So he was only married to her for
a year. But he spoke up for himself this time. Yeah,
and he decided to speak up not only for himself
but all of her other exes. And he said, quote,
let me just say this, stop putting us down. Stop

(14:29):
putting me down with your victim card. The problem is
not us, not me. The problem is you. You are
the one who couldn't keep it in your pants. You
have been loved a few times. Damn, You've been married
four times, and you have had countless relationships in between.

(14:53):
You have had good relationships me. For example, I was
good to you. I'm too good of a man for you.
So Noah said that Jlo lied and cheated and chose
fame and fortune over him, and yet she begged him
to stay when he finally had enough because she didn't
want bad press. And he said to her, quote, tell

(15:14):
the truth for once. Let people know that you are
the problem. You should be emparissed and it's ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Wow, it's interesting that the guy that I've never heard
of is the one who has the biggest platform to
talk about j Loo.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
It's crazy, but I think I could knock Jlo's head
off with this quote. And it's not that your relationships
are causing your problems, it's your problems are causing your relationships.
So what I would say to j Loo is what's
wrong with you is represented in the people that you pick.

(15:51):
So if you got a problem with your partner.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Guess who picked them.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, so there's something in you that you're still not
dealing with. And and so if you're saying I'm not loved,
if you.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Love yourself, love is everywhere.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Well I'm not trying to get too deep this morning,
but I'm just saying, but I'm just saying, you know,
j Lo, calm down, because like the guys that she's
picked are famous people that are unavailable from Afar emotionally.
Like it's not like, you know, you look at Jeter

(16:31):
or any of the guy or who was it a
Rod that she.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Dated Ben Alack twice?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, you know, it's not like you're you're picking guys
that are like, I can't believe he wasn't available for
you emotionally.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
They are a holes out loud like this really from Afar,
we're seeing it. It's not a big mystery. But again,
like the idea that those people also can appear to
elevate you, yep, does kind of feed into what Noah's

(17:06):
saying here a little bit, because you're kind of going
with like where they benefit you from a status side,
and then overlooking all of the red flags where emotionally
they will be unavailable for you.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I don't even know who that guy is. Like in
the timeline of j lo Partners, where is.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
He very very beginning of Pree knows job? Okay, pree
knows job jay Loo.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Okay hook knows j Lo. All Right, it's good to know.
Put that in my notes.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
In the.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
I like the advice to jlo Is calm don Calm down,
Shuttle call him.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
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Speaker 6 (18:52):
Nobody would have thought that the pit Panthers would pat
Paton Rducy would have the pit Panthers ruling to their
third consecutive win, while Penn State would be dropping its
fourth consecutive after firing James Franklin. But here we are
for the Panthers. Mason Heinschel went thirteen to twenty four
for hundred and forty three yards, threw a pick and
with sex seven times, but had a thirty six yard

(19:13):
touchdown run. Pitt also got a sixty six yard punt
return for a touchdown by Kenny Johnson and three Trey
Bakowski field goals in a thirty to thirteen win at Syracusa.
Panthers are now five and two, three and one in
the ACC.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
They held the.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
Orange to two hundred and twelve yards on sixty four plays,
which averaged out to three point one to three per
had three six three and outs, so the defense really
carried the three.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Defense is legit.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah, the defense is legitis for sure. They play NC
State on Saturday. Penn State's defense is not legit. And
this was here's an interesting one that there was a
battle between head coaches.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Who were WPIL products.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Iowa was Kirk Farence As, an Upper Saint Clair graduate
who played for Joe Moore, legendary pitt In Notre Dame
offensive line coach. He played Upper Saint Clair Gateway or
Penn State interim coach Terry Smith is a Gateway alum,
but Iowa pulls off a twenty five twenty four win
in Iowa City Saturday. Penn State was up twenty four

(20:16):
nineteen with four fifty six left after a Ryan Barker
field goal, but South Dakota State transfer Mark Ronowski broke
a sixty seven yard run set up Cayden Wedgends eight
yard touchdown run for the go ahead score with three
point fifty four left, and the Niitney Lions dropped their
fourth consecutive their freshman quarterback Ethan Grunkmeyer, so not only

(20:36):
did they fire their head coach, but they lost a
rodin quarterback Dre Rollar for the remainder of the season.
Grunka Meyer went twenty three to thirty nine foe hundred
ninety eight yards in a TD but through two picks,
including one that was returned to the one yard line,
and Kate tron Allen had one hundred and forty five
yards and two touchdowns for Penn State. But it's their
defense that's the problem for Penn State more than anything.
They've got a buy before playing at Ohio State on

(20:58):
November first. Pitt also had a basketball game yesterday, exhibition game.
They beat Providence eighty one seventy four, trail by as
many as twelve early, ended up leading by double ditches
at halftime. They had to fight off a rally. DeMarco
Minor fifteen points, Brandon Cummings twelve, Noius andrew Sitis had eleven,

(21:19):
cam Coren and Omari Witherspoon ten each. And then you
have the Steelers play on Sunday Night football. They've got
the rematch for Aaron Rodgers facing his old team when
the Steelers play host to the Green Bay Packers. The
Steeers are four and two Packers for one and one
that one Sunday night at Akroshuer Stadium. Interesting note here

(21:40):
Rogers spent eighteen years in Green Bay. I think the
first couple is the backup to Brett Farv but four
time MVP, one time Super Bowl champion spent two years
with the New York Jets one of them injured with
the Achilles six and twelve record with the Jets. Brett
Farve sixteen years with Green Bay, three MVPs, won Super Bowl,
went one with the Jets, went nine and seven in

(22:02):
his first year with Minnesota. Very much like Rogers first
year with the Steelers. Far played against the Packers on
November one, two thousand and nine, went seventeen to twenty
eight for two hundred forty four yards four touchdowns in
a thirty eight twenty six win. So if we're comparing
the parallels of their career, that could be a good
foreboding for Aaron Rodgers against his former team.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
I mean it's crazy to me to think that Brett
Favre leaves goes to the Jets, goes to the Vikings.
I mean, all of the news, all of the smoke
this offseason was that Aaron Rodgers' first pick was to
go play for the Vikings. Yeah, So taking that same trajectory,
and it's wild to me to think, if you're a

(22:45):
Green Bay Packers fan, that you had those two guys
for so many years and all you got out of
it was two rings like really underperformed. I mean, that
was the knock on Rogers for year was just postseason
failures with the with the Packers. I mean they those
teams were really good.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
But to prove your point build when you think about
here's a very similar type of thing on the hockey
level that the Penguins went from having Mario Lemieux, Mary Lemieux,
two Sidney Crosby and and for their careers they have
what five Stanley Cups championships to show for it, yep,
and twice they won back to back. And so you know,

(23:28):
the Packers have two championships to show for the thirty
four years that they had two Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Right and in Crosby got there early. And you know,
I mean to go to four and to win three.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
I know a lot of people are frustrated with the
Penguins and their their current state and the rebuild and
should they have gotten rid of some of the old
guys and and all that stuff. But to see that
kind of run, I mean, fan bases just don't get
to experience that.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
No, I mean, it's that's that's amazing, and it's the
amazing the Penguin's fortune that they would just as Lemieu
was in the Twilight of his career and retired at
that point that they would get the good fortune to
not only have the number one pick and get flurriyed,
and not only have the number two pick and get Milk,
and and then they get the number one pick in
the lottery and get Sidney Crosby and then followed by

(24:15):
Jordan Stall I mean, and have Crystal the Tang drafted
in the In the in between all of that, the
Penguin's fortunes were amazing, and you know, that's it's it's
interesting to me that when the Penguins won the Cup
in Nashville.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I was on the ice and asked Mary.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
It was one of the group of people that asked
Mary Lemieux about are the Is this Penguins team now
a dynasty? And he was very quick to say no,
But what they did in the salary cap.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Era is pretty amazing.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
It's pretty it's pretty amazing that they did were able
to do that in a salary cap era.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
What do you think about this game on Sunday night,
because I you know, we've been sitting here talking about
it all morning, I mean, Abby and I started the
show sort of wondering what this team is, I mean,
it's it seems like they they've.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Definitely got some problems.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
They started the season kind of where they left off,
not being able to stop the run, figured that out
for three games, and then it's weird. It's ugly head
again in the last two and here comes Josh Jacobs
and Jonathan Taylor, two of the best running football teams
in the NFL are coming to town in the next
couple of weeks.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
I think you captured it right there, Bill, with the
sense of the Steelers have been a team that when
they are super Bowl caliber champion team, it's with the
number one defense in the NFL. And to have that
type of a defense, you can't just have the pass rush.
You have to be willing to willing and able to
stop the run. And that's where you know they drafted
Derek Carmon tried to address it, but I feel like

(25:43):
that's where the Steelers need to be better is stopping
the run. And you know, if you're not going to
stop the run, I don't know how you're gonna be
able to pressure the passer. But they have to be
able to do if that's if that's your mo if
you're a pass rushing team, you need better performances out
of a TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward. You know, you need
those guys to show up in a game where they

(26:04):
didn't in Cincinnati. I think what they had something like
two tackles between them or.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Two they split split the spoils of that one.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
TJ had half a sack early, he had a sack late,
but in between there was there was not much pressure
on Flacco at all. And when an old guy is
dropping back forty nine times, you got to make him
feel you. You got to you gotta hurt him, you
got to get him off his rhythm. And they just
never seem to be able to do that.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
No, And that's that's what this this Steers defense. I
think Brett Farv is the ultimate ultimate game manager at
the stage of his career, but you have to have
a defense that can You.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Mean Aaron Rodgers, I say that far Yeah, I mean
a completely different game, but yeah, yeah, Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers at forty one years old.
You're not expecting him to carry the team, but he's
going to be able to pick a team apart if
you give him some time in the pocket. Yep, he's
not going to handle pressure very well.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean, they seem to be doing that.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
That's the you know, the sover lining to come out
of Thursday night is the offense looks like it's clicking.
I mean, they're they're running the ball efficiently, They're getting
the ball to all their tight ends that they have.
I mean, you know, they're getting in the end zone,
they're scoring points. It's just they've got to be more
efficient at possessing the ball and timely drives that. You

(27:20):
know that that interception that he threw to DK deep
there that was on a first down, you know, is
that a necessary shot to take? Like I'm I'm I've
hated how conservative the offense has been at times, but
there's also context of a game where the Bengals just scored.
Maybe try to put a drive together, try to keep

(27:40):
Flacco on the sideline for a little while, let him
cramp up.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
Yeah, they have to stop the run. I mean that
has been a problem for the Steelers. It was a
big problem for them last year, especially in the playoffs,
especially against the Ravens. And you know, you can't be
a team that has Super Bowl aspirations and can't stop
the other team from controlling the clock, simple as app.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Good stuff, Kevi. We'll talk to you again next hour. Abby,
what are we talking about the top.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
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Speaker 4 (28:13):
Still got Jerry d coming up at eight forty five
and up next we're gonna dig into the show. Hey o,
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Speaker 10 (28:48):
It is the DV Morning Show Radio Mike have the
day Off, Bill Prawford, Abby Krisner, our producer Jacob Brett,
and Kevin Gorman doing sports for us this morning and
hanging in studio and Kevin, I'm glad you're in here
because I wanted to get you in on this conversation
since you're a baseball guy, you know, in the in
the age of extreme language and hyperbole, it's easy to

(29:08):
say things are the greatest thing we've ever seen, or this.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Player is the goat.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
But we just saw pitchers strike out ten batters and
hit three homers in a postseason series clinching game. It
seems like this performance is hyperbole proof. How do you
contextualize what we just saw this weekend from Shoho Tani.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
The only way to take it down a notch it
is to make the argument that it wasn't the greatest
single performance in sports history. I don't think anybody will
argue that it was the single greatest performance in baseball
playoff history.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, it's just a.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Matter whether you put it into a greater context than
anybody ever had. A bad Johnson had forty two points
filling in, you know, playing center in game I think
it was games six or seven in the NBA Finals.
I mean, I've seen that argument of what Magic Johnson
did when Kareem abdul Jabbar was injured and Magic played

(30:07):
center as a point you know, I think it was
a rookie point guard, a six foot eight I mean,
that's that's the type of context we're talking is that
is this the greatest individual performance in sports history, not
just baseball history.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I mean, it's.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Certainly the best one inning that anybody has ever had.
I know, you've got some stats over.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
There, so many first it's kind of mind boggling to
Sarah Langs from MMB dot com, who does a lot
of great statistical thing like she finds the history. She's
a reporter editor from MMB dot com. Also battling a
courageously battling als.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
O.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Tawni is the first picture to hit a leadoff home
run in any game, regular season or postseason as a
pitcher as a picture. Yeah, first picture with multiple homers
in a postseason game. First player to strike out five
five batters in a game where he hit three home runs,
and he had ten k's and six plus scoreless innings,

(31:06):
so he also had a quality start here any game,
regular or postseason. He was the second time in his
career that he's had at least ten strikeouts and multiple homers.
He's the only player in Major league history.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
To do it twice. Baby Ruth include wo come on.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
First player to strike out a batter and hit a
home run in the first inning of a postseason game,
So he had to strike out and hit a homer.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
You know, coming into that game, nobody knew how he's
going to be.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
He isn't pitched in a thirteen days second Tommy John
surgery that he came back from.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
And to come out like that to start the games
striking out.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
The side and then to lead off and hit a
home run the first twenty minutes of that game.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Nobody who was there or watched that will ever forget that.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Yeah, So he's the first player to strike out a
batter and hit a home run the first inning, first
player to strike out three batters and hit a home
run in the same inning in the postseason. So I
think he had two k's in the fourth and hit
a second home run in the fourth inning. So he's
had multiple strikeouts and a home run and one inning
multiple times in one game. First player with multiple career

(32:20):
postseason innings, multiple strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
And home run.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
The three home runs in a postseason game he pitched
are the most of any player in a career and
games pitched, and two players had two, Bob Gibson and
Dave McNally the third. It was the thirteenth three home
run game in postseason history. So he's got one one
of thirteen and this is in a game which he pitched.

(32:48):
But here's the part that where this is the blow
me away stuff. All of those first are enough to say, wow,
that's amazing. Then you get into he's the first player
with multiple home runs at least one hundred and sixteen
mile peror exit velocity. So all three it had at
least one sixteen So we're talking O'Neil Cruz type of

(33:08):
bombs lasers in the stat cast era as they like
to say, which is only since twenty fifteen. His home
runs had exit velocities of one sixteen point five, one
sixteen point nine, and I think one thirteen point six.
We had two of one sixteen plus.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
And they traveled thirteen one hundred and forty two feet,
maybe because one of them left the park.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yes, we're not even sure how far that way. Two
of those home runs he hit while he was pitching.
So like most pitchers go into the dugout or go
into the clubhouse and rest, and this is a guy
who had to go up and take at bats during
his time pitching, which doesn't happen in baseball anymore. It's
not to say it never happened, but it doesn't happen anymore.
It was the eighth home run of at least four

(33:50):
hundred and fifty feet at Dodger Stadium. He had he
had one that was measured a four sixty nine, but
as you said, it exited the ballpark, so we don't
really know just how far it travel.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
That's an est hit something before it stopped. Yeah, yeah,
I mean that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Abby. You have some of the sound. Let's stop teasing people.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
You just kind of have to hear it.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
In Game four of the LC asset, there goes O
Toddy show, Hey, lighting up the highlights already.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Oh my goodness, asked the bomb that left the park to.

Speaker 10 (34:26):
Oh to dinny, O Toddy has done it again.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
He is only the seventh player in history to hit
it out of the park.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
And unbelieva, what a perfect name. You know, you've got
the show, Hey, the show, and then the oh Toddy.
You know, to have to have a player like him
in this day and age of specialization, to have a
guy who's a two way player and arguably, when healthy,
he's as good as any pitcher in baseball.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, they asked Freddie Freeman about it, and what I
loved about watching Freddie Freeman, you know last year's World
Series MVP watch o Tawni is that his brain was broken.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
He couldn't process even what he was watching.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
And he said, I don't know if he's the greatest
player to ever live, but I can definitely say in
my lifetime certainly, like we're we're never going to see
this again, because these players are once in a million years.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
You know, it's not even once in a generation.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
I mean, no, this is once in one hundred and
twenty five years. I mean all of the numbers that
I'm seeing are since nineteen hundred.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
And the other part of it is Babe Ruth played
during the era of segregation, so we don't know he
played barnstorming. He played against the Negro leagues, but they
didn't play in the major leagues at the time, so
we wun't know how it compares me. Shoe Hee Atani's
playing at a time when all of the greatest players
in baseball are playing in the majors. I mean, that's

(35:56):
the highest and not only has he done it in
the major leagues, but he did it in the Worldaseball
Classic when he struck out Mike Trout, who was considered
the best player in baseball at the time, struck out
Mike Trout to to win the WBC for Japan against
So I mean, it's what we're watching here is absolutely incredible.
Here's the last part of it is two of his
three strikeouts in the first came on pitches of one

(36:19):
hundred miles an hour faster.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
He threw the.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Fastest the eleven fastest pitches of the game, had the
three hardest hits of the game, hardest hit balls of
the game, and the three longest distances of the game,
and the most swing and misses.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Of the game.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
This is a game dominated in every facet. It's absolutely
amazing to watch and to.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
The series that iculous.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
The clinch of sweepover the team had the best record
in baseball, and I'm gonna unabashed. I love Mookie Bets.
I love watching Mookie Bets, and I I would say,
you know, Mookie Bets could be the best player in baseball.
He's not even the best player on his own team.
And there's an argument you can make that Freddy Freeman
could be. I mean, there are three MVPs, which makes
it all that much more incredible. What you know Paul

(37:08):
Skians and Bubba Chandler have done against those three in
their career, even Karmen Maginski, Uh, you know, and I
think uh Rat Ashcraft, I think those guys have all
had success facing one, two, three in the order three
former MVPs. And I had a long conversation with Carmen
Magensky in particular about what's that like as a young

(37:28):
pitcher to face to face those guys. So that's what saying,
because it's got to be terrifying. Well, no, I mean,
you're never really out of danger. That's that's one hundred
percent true. The terrifying part. These guys all believe they're
the best in the world at what they do, and
to some degree they are. I mean they're they're the
best in the world.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
They may not be.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
He may not be the best pitcher in baseball, but
he's a major league pitcher, so that makes him, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Better than most people that have ever picked up a baseball.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah, you think of the best player you ever played
with or against and how far did they go and
realize that you don't know many that were capable of
making it to the miners, let alone the majors. Yeah,
and you know you think about that part of it.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Oh yeah, No, I used to think about that all
the time because.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
I used to work out a trees haul up at
pitt and because my dad worked at Pitts, so I
had a free pass to get into that gym, and
I would just watch some of the guys playing basketball
in there, and these guys were jumping out of the gym,
absolutely no chance at making it in the NBA. And
then somebody like Lebron comes along or Kobe or one
of these players doesn't even go to college and is

(38:33):
playing with grown men and dominating them. I mean, that's
the level athlete we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Yeah, I remember, I remember playing pickup basketball with a
guy who played at CCAC. His name is Derreck Myers.
He played at CCAC South. And then he goes a
scholarship to Florida State and this guy was awesome. He
was only like five ten or five eleven, but he
was fantastic and playing against him a lot and think
of Wow, this this is what it takes to be
a D one basketball player. This guy and then he

(38:59):
went and played Florida State against UNLV and against Greg Anthony,
and Greg Anthony just wiped the floor with him, And
I thought, how.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Good is Greg Anthony?

Speaker 6 (39:07):
Yeast the NBA and you saw guys that, you know,
Greg Anthony was a great NBA player, but there were
guys that could wipe the floor with him, and you're
thinking like, oh my gosh, like yeah, you know, it
makes you realize just how very, very mortal you are.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
When I when I was a senior at alderd Ice,
the best player I ever saw live and in person
was Rod Rutherford. Lightning Rod for Perry. We played Perry,
they beat us fifty six nothing. He accounted for all
fifty six points. He was the quarterback and he was
a safety. He had, you know, three pick sixes, multiple touchdowns,
ran for touchdowns, like just unstoppable. Never really found a

(39:44):
place at the NFL level.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
And I'm like, this is no. But I think he
was on. I think he was.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
On the Steelers Super Bowl team and got a ring,
but I don't think he played really. I think he
was likering quarterback on I'm not one hundred percent on that,
but I mean I know he was with the Steelers.
He spent some time with the Stewards and some time
with the Panthers. But I mean, he was a first
team All Big East quarterback, and he obviously was thrown
to Larry Fitzgerald, which helped. But I mean, you know,
Rod Rutford was a special, special flower.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
I mean I went to high school with Brian Gelsizer,
who played linebacker at Penn State and was also drafted
by the Kansas City Royals. And I played basketball with him,
which was his third best sport, and one he didn't
pick up the ball because he was playing baseball in
the summer and football in the fall, and he didn't
pick up a basketball and they just start draining threes
and I'm just like, my god, this guy's just an
unbelievable athlete. And he heard his knee. He got drafted
in the NFL and hurt his knee and never made

(40:34):
it in the NFL. And it's like he's the best
athlete I was ever around, and he was phenomenal. We
all thought he was going to play professionally, and I
went to high school with some people who did play.
Damon Denson played in the NFL, and I went to
high school with some professional athletes. But it's a different
type when you see guys that are not only you know,
good enough to beat professional athletes, but then you talk

(40:54):
about the best of the best, and shohe A Tawny's
clearly one of one in today's world, and that's and
globalized the game. And here's the thing that I read
this weekend that really blows your mind. As you know
that he's got I think sixty eight million dollars of
his seventy million dollars salary on annual basis, I think
he's a seven year, a ten year, seven hundred million

(41:15):
dollar contract and sixty eight million of it per per
year is the third that's seven hundred million dollars in
his first year with the Dodgers. They made that in
ticket sales, merchandising, everything, They've already made.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Their money back. That's he's already worth it.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
That's where I think that's the amazing frustration of Pirates
fans is that is that they have a guy in
Paul's schemes who can compete with shoehe A. Tony struck
him out the first time he faced him as a rookie, took.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Him deep the next time, but still, but that's a
great battle. Yeah, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
You know, Bubba Chandler under his breath, you know, Bubba
Chandler gave up a monster shot to show hey, and
and was just like he said, he turned around and
was like an awe and just like, wow, Okay, this
is what it's all about. But after the game, he
was like, he'll never hit another home run off me,
you know, like, and I, you know, kind of joyous
say that's because he'll never see another pitch that's.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
A strike zone from you right now.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
He's like, your damn rights, no chance he's ever gonna
get one that's in his wheelhouse. So but but that's
I mean, that's the competitive level that you get from
those type of guys. And I think if I can
extend any hope to the Pirates, it's that you look
at the Brewers that had the best record in baseball
and a team that was good top to bottom in

(42:29):
their owner one through nine, everybody could hit. They didn't
have the starting pitching to face a team like the
Dodgers and the Pirates do. They don't have the hitting.
That's why they're a ninety one loss team. But if
they can add the back you think about a team
that can throw out there next year. If they were
to be a postseason team and everybody stays healthy and

(42:50):
everything goes well, they have Schemes and Chandler and Keller
and Jones and and Oviedo and a bunch of young
arms and the bullpen. If they're not in the rotation,
you have all of a sudden Majinski and ashcrafton and
and Burrows. You start thinking about the young pitching the
Pirates have. They have the pitching to compete in the postseason.

(43:10):
They just need to get the bats to get them there.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Well, show hey is going to be watching the game
to night to see who they're gonna face in the
World Series.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I'm looking forward to it. That game is at what
time tonight? Eight oh eight?

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Eight oh eight. All right, thanks Keviv. I'm glad we
had you in for that conversation. Abby, what are we
talking about the top of the hour, We're.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Going to learn how to tell if somebody's lying to you.

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Plus we still got Jerry d at eight forty five
talking Steelers.

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