October 20, 2025 • 37 mins
Gerry Dulac calls in to discuss the Steelers defensive struggles and what moves the team could make at the upcoming trade deadline.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Studios where Pittsburgh shops for appliances. This is WTV Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I never had a great experience at the zoo.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Like I would take the girls and we would go
to the tiger exhibit and they'd either be laying down
or they weren't even there.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I couldn't see them in the grass was so high.
I'm like, are they sleeping behind a rock? This is this?
What this is?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Because I'm I'm I love those animals. I want to
see them, but it's like, am I really seeing them?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
They're in somebody's backyard and they're miserable. Yeah, they're depressed.
They're like I I'm from the you know, the desert
or the jungle. I'm not from Highland Park.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
They also know that the Steelers are oh and seven
and Thursday night football games under Tomlin against AFC nor.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
Thanks Brandy Bellman and the DV morning shows.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
A morning show and listen, and we're gonna be okay,
Like we're at at some point we're gonna get over
the Thursday night football loss. And we're still in like
you know, the the fire Tom and vortex, like you
know where we go through this cycle almost every year,
because like, isn't this the part of the cycle where
like now we go on like at least a four
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to six game like Tare and then it's just good enough.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure which timeline we're on.
I'm not sure if we're not on, like the we
lose again, oh right, worse again, and then everybody's out
on the season, and then somehow they pull it together. Yeah,
that's surprisingly beat in the Indianapolis Colts by shutting down
Jonathan Taylor in the best run game in the NFL
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and get us all back on board. And then Joe
Flacco I believe, comes to town again. I mean at
some point in there, there's.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Yeah, I think the Green Bay Indie Chargers. Yes, but
then yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But then Black's Blaco, Flaco's Baco. It would be great
if we could put that guy on his backo and
make it miserable for him.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But even the Browns, like.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
This weekend, watching the Browns do what they did to
Miami pissed me off. And I don't know why exactly,
but they were running wild on Miami, and Miami looks
like they just quit all together.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Miami's got some CTE issues going on like everywhere. Like
so I don't even know what to make of Miami.
Most of what I saw in Miami was like a
lot of the postgame stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh, I mean that coach needs to be fired, like yesterday.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
He's there is an argument for too much weed, Like
at some point I didn't think like because to me,
I'm all about the legalization.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
At this point, it's just like, just tell me exactly
what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You know, you need to make it illegal again.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
I think there. I think in Miami, make it illegal just.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
For him, nobody else.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
There's too much and that seems to be kind of
extended to even like Tatua.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's just it's no good, Like I even understand what
they have to be thinking as players with this goofball
on the sidelines, Like he has got as hoodie up,
his glasses are fogged, he can't put a sentence together.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
If you're playing for him, what are you even thinking
at this point?
Speaker 7 (03:20):
The thing that sucks for you know anybody.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I mean, like, listen, we don't have a stake in
the game less you know, for some reason you're a
Dolphins fan or whatever.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
But Mike McDaniel, like I liked him, so much at
the beginning.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, there was somebody who's quirky. I thought he was
just weird enough to be a genius.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And he was.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And he's young enough too that you're kind of like, man,
I like I feel some fire in him. I kind
of like feel like he's kind of setting this new
like a new class a coach.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
And it's ALLBS. It's ALLBS. This dude just wakes and bakes.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
And just says whatever comes out first, and it's ALLBS.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I think he could still be a really good coordinat Kevin.
I don't know what your feelings are about him, but
as a head coach, as the leader of the team,
I mean, one thing you cannot argue about with Mike
Tomlin is that he is a leader of men. Now
we can talk about schemes and time management and game
plans and all that stuff, and I think all those
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criticisms are legit, but there's no question that everybody knows
who the leader is and are willing to follow him.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
I think there's a body language issue with him, And
it's not just Mike McDaniel's body language, but how the
players react to him. Right, he doesn't seem to be
a level of respect, and it doesn't seem to be
the level of respect from him towards some of his
other players too. I mean I've saw, you know, he
had a quarterback come off the field and just kind
of like looked at his play sheet and ignored the
quartermat yours.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Yeah, And it was just like you see things like
that and you think like, wow, there's there's something missing there.
And then you know when you talk to guys, And
this happened with Derek Shelton, and I remember staying up
late that Saturday night asking after asking Derek Shelt you
know what's wrong and how do you fix it? And
he said, I don't know. When the coach no longer
has an answer. Yeah, when they no longer have a
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solution to offer, you know that they're fried. I'll be
stunned if Mike McDaniel still has a job come Tuesday,
Like that's we should be at the point where now
where after a loss, like you know, you lose thirty
one six to the Browns, So the Browns who.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Haven't cracked scoring twenty all season long?
Speaker 8 (05:27):
Yeah, and then you have two is they've made a
major investment in Tua and he was twelve to twenty
three hundred yards, three interceptions, twenty four point one passer rating.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
You know, three picks.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
That's you're not getting the performance out of the quarterback.
You might have to make a coaching change just to
save your quarterback who you invested a lot of money in.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And you know what's crazy, Kevi is that's why they
brought him there because Brian Flores, before he showed up
for the Pittsburgh Steelers, was supposedly running things in a
way that was too militant, and Tua lost all his confidence.
And this you know, genius offensive coordinator was going to
come fix him, and he put this highlight package together,
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detailing and highlighting how awesome he thought Tua was. And
at the beginning it seemed like the perfect marriage. But
if you don't, if you're not getting the performance out
of him anymore, is that there's no reason for him
to be there.
Speaker 9 (06:23):
No.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
And that's why I think you see the Steelers to
kind of get back to your first point when you
talk about leader of men, the Steelers don't want to
change the man at the top because they believe he
has the respect of not just the locker room, but
the entire organization that Mike Tomlin and really all of football.
When you see Mike Tomlin interact at the Senior Bowl
or interact at the Pro Bowl, he has the respect
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of players players, and they like him. They want to
play for him. So that's why they change coordinators. That's
why they've changed offensive and defensive coordinators. It's okay, let's
bring in a fresh perspective for the players for in
terms of play calling and time management and things like
that that they can control without necessarily changing the entire organization.
Because when you're changing the head coach, that's the face
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of the organization. And yeah, I'm kind of still stunned
that Mike McDaniel has a head coaching job in the
NFL and Mike McCarthy does not.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, well, he seems to be shotgunning things into Tua's
mouth or something.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
But regardless, we'll get to that maybe later in sports.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
But the other thing that you know, you said about Tomlin,
and this might be something that we throw towards Jerry
Doulac a little later on this hour. We've had this
conversation on the show so many times about the head
coach and the quarterback and kind of who bears the
brunt of like where is the talent?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Where does the talent lie?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And to talk about Mike Tomlin being this leader of
men when we look at kind of what has happened
in the wake of people leaving Mike Tomlin's leadership, Russell Wilson,
justin Field's getting benched. This weekend, we saw Kenny pick
it go in for a series and.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just Booth immediately fumble. I mean I think he completed
two passes.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
For eight yards.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, and they got blanked by the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Right, So there's so there seems to be a little
bit of insight there, you know, Dickens.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Maybe being the exception, and I don't think anybody didn't
think that that would happen in Dallas, like that just
was it wasn't ever going to happen here.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And we talked about that with with Glass.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Now, you know, there's some players where it's like he's
such a head case that if you don't have a
franchise level quarterback that's just going to throw him the
ball and get him the ball continuously, he's going to
tank and he's not going to be a good teammate
and he's going to be throwing stuff on the sidelines,
and so they're having a great season. Ceedee lamb gets hurt,
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George Pickens, you know, feasts in his absence. Then ceed
comes back, and it looks like they wanted it to
look like they thought it could look and great until
it isn't. Like He is a to me, a finishing piece,
not a piece you build around. And I understand that
now we need that guy back here and we're looking
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for a second receiver, But I just don't think that
that was a fit here.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I don't think he ever would have got the numbers
he's doing in Dallas here.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
I don't know I would. I'm curious to see. I
never I never bought into the idea that the Steelers
would have Aaron Rodgers throwing to DK Metcalf and George Pickens.
I always thought Metcalf was brought in signed to the
contract and that meant Pickens was on his way out.
Ye boy, would be nice to see how if he
would have played off Dk Metcalf the way that he's
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playing off CD lamb oh and having Dak Prescott throw
him to him, if he would have had Aaron Rodgers,
if Rodgers could have picked teams apart with those two
as his primary wideouts, that that would be interesting to
see just in theory.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But I agree with everything you said. I felt like
to some.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
Degree that George Pickens was a bit of a cancer
for the Steelers by his actions, by his tantrums, by
his you know, you can't count on You're not sure
what you're getting day to day from him game to game.
And I think the Steers couldn't invest in that, they
couldn't make a long term investment and a guy when
they didn't know what they were going to get.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
You gotta trust that they know something that you don't.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
You cannot trust everyone, Kevin, And that's gonna lead off
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Cloudy skuys today high of fifty nine. Most people like
to think that they know when somebody's lying, but according
to body language expert Juddy James, it is not that simple.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
So here is the tricky part.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Some of the signs that show up when a person
is telling the truth can be the same signs that
show up when they're lying.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
So here are the top ten signs that somebody might
be lying to you.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Number one is I direction, Apparently, if a person looks
to the right a lot.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
It means that they're making stuff up.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
If they're looking to their left, they're trying to remember.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Weird.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Is that just accessing a different part of your brain exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
It doesn't go into a deep explanation on this particular article,
but I do remember that from the past, just like
somewhere in my you.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Know, somewhere in my brain.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I know that in my psych training that there was
there are different parts of your brain that you're accessing.
So yes, when you're looking right, you're trying to make
something up. When you're looking to the left trying to
remember something, Okay, long pauses, which this triggers me a
little bit. Liars may stall or repeat your question to
buy time. The reason why this triggers me is I
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stall because I am trying deeply not to say something
stupid or be misunderstood.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Sure, and my.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Dad does it too.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I always whenever I am doing an impression of my father,
I always take a.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Very deep pause.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
But my dad is very rarely misunderstood, and I hold
him to a very very high, you know standard, and
he's just you know, he's my hero in so many ways,
but like he never minches his words, but he's always
very very clear, but he takes long lung pauses.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I remember my dad or something like a Steeler fan
who remembers the seventies teams very well, saying that about Franco,
because like every question that Franco has asked, he would
sort of pause and have a very slow answer, and
everybody was like, well, what's going on with this guy?
But it just turned out that he was trying to
be thoughtful exactly. I thought that that's what you know,
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slow response time meant. I think either that or you
know you're an idiot, But most often it's it's your
trying to come up with a thoughtful response.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I think that because on the flip side of that,
my mom will tell you that she talks out of
her neck and she will say the wrong thing all
the time. She's like Queen of malapropes, and soci'll say
things like, you know, it's the school.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Of four knocks.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Odd?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Noh up?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Number three voice changes. Listen for higher pitched or breathless tone.
Usually this is caused by stress or the Steelers driving
you crazy.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Number four is fidgeting.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Unfortunately, this means all elementary school children are liars.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, I think you kind of have to.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
All kids nowadays are just sort of uncomfortable, and they
have things and toys for their discomfort. Like they actually
have fidget spinners and all those little weird things you
can pop, like with the little bubbles and stuff, and
so there's there's tools for that now.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Which I guess show me an adult that doesn't see
their kids fidget spinners and want them.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh, I play with them all the time. I'm the
only one that still plays with those things.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Yeah, constantly.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I feel like our generation only had the stress balls.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Yeah, well we get Elmer's glue. You could just squeeze
a little peel it off your fingers.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Sounds right.
Speaker 10 (14:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
I don't know how much I'm agreeing with this list.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
If we're being honest, I feel like there's probably a
better ones.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Maybe we can add to it. But the poker face
comes in at number five.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Some people remain completely still while they're lying to avoid
giving anything away. I feel like when I go back
in my memory bank, the people that have lied to
me have been the ones that are like completely frozen.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
TJ. Watte eyes at me. Those are the ones that
I'm like you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Piece of cold dark distance.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Oh yeah, exactly six? Is I dancing?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
If their eyes are all over the room, it can
be a sign of panic or drug abuse. Yeah, that
sounds like you're tweaking. Sounds like you got a Mike
McDonald's thing going on.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Whatever that Jets coach Adam Gase took right before or
his first press conference.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Over compensation, and this makes sense to me.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
A liar might puff up or act overly confident when
they're trying to get away with something.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Mm hmm makes sense, which goes along.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
With number ten.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
If I jump ahead here, too many filler words, if
every sentence starts with um or you know, or basically
they might be lying, but I would say that, and
over compensation when somebody adds, like too many details that
you didn't really need.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah right, that's.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
When you're kind of like, why, why is that important?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 7 (15:33):
This's up?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What picture are you painting?
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Bob Roth That a happy little accident That.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Barrier rituals comes in at number eight, which is things
like crossed arms, headshakes, which all signal defensiveness that can
be a subconscious tell I.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Have a problem with the folded arms thing. And then
it's not really because I'm lying or anything. It's just
like I don't know what to do with my arms.
H feels weird to just have them down at my sides,
like if I think about it too much.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yeah, you know, I do that more when I am bored.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Just like as a way to just kind of get
comfortable with yourself and just kind of lean back and
be like, all right, well, what is this conversation?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Really? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
I think when I'm in I'm in the folded arms thing,
I'm like, wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, I get I get into bed, I lay down. Yeah,
I start laying down wherever I am.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
That's my shivasa.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I'm doing the side eyed abby when I'm doing my
sports updates. See the folded arms.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Don't wrap it up. And the final one is a
forced smile.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
A forced lifeless smile can be a sign that they're fibbing. Actually,
you know what I remember seeing that in like one
of those true crime docs is that when like a
serial killer is actually confessing that, they usually have them
on camera, and like if somebody is talking about a
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crime that they committed, but they're like they're saying they
didn't do it or whatever. That the thing that like
detectives will look for is whenever they say they didn't
do something, they have a tiny little curve and a
little smile at the end once the detective like says like, Okay, yeah,
I believe you, because that serial killer, whoever that person is,
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like cannot physically hide the fact that they are so
thrilled they get away with it, like they are so
just charged up and just get so much juice from
the fact that they get one over.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
On somebody, and they.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Give it away by being like yeah, Vncini's bread.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Now the opposite tick like if somebody thinks I'm lying,
even if I'm not lying, I start smiling, like I
look guilty even though.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I haven't done anything. I'm like, I don't know. Just
the fact that you think I might have is weird
to me, and I just can't stop smiling.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Well, you know, yeah, someone screenshotted me from a video
when we were talking to.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
The Pirates. I think Travis Williams, the Pirates part.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
Team president after the season, and he said something and
I obviously I wear my expressions on my face. I'll
be the first and someone screenshoted me and they said,
this is the face you make when you know the
person talking to you is lying.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And they were like, I was like, I was like,
oh man.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
And the funny thing is I was holding a microphone
for one of the TV stations and I had my
phone and a lot of the time I kept looking
down at my phone checking to see the timestamps. Okay,
he said something, I want to remember this time, and
you know, so I can kind of make a mark
mark for that. And so there there were some faces
I was making where I was looking down at my phone,
not like paying attention to what he was saying. You know,
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it was it wasn't reaction to that. It was reaction. Okay,
this is what time it is. So I'm like, but
you know, somebody screenshot it. They were like, oh, here's
the face they look they make.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I was like, oh boy, we're gonna be good this
year's playoffs.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We're gonna spend get some pods.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
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Speaker 3 (19:17):
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Speaker 8 (20:03):
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Speaker 3 (20:08):
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Who's filling in with sports for you all morning long?
Speaker 8 (20:18):
keV, Well, if you want to feel a little bit
better about the Steelers situation, given that they are four
and two heading into Sunday nights game against the Green
Bay Packers, take a look around the rest of the
NFL and the dumpster fires that are, especially with the
Miami Dolphins, who are one in six after a thirty
one to six loss to the Cleveland Browns. Entering this
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season in the Super Bowl era, one hundred and fifty
four teams had started the season one and six. Only
the nineteen seventy Cincinnati Bengals made the playoffs. If you
need reason to fire Mike McDaniel, aside from all the
other reasons, there's one right there. Yeah, McDaniel said that,
you know, the way he looks at the job is
he finds a very offensive to all parties involved if he.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Thinks about having the job. So he has a job
to do.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
He's not concentrating on whether he should be fired because
he knows the answer to that.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
So my wife start concentrating on it.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, I mean, has anybody ever fired themselves? Because I
feel like he could do that and actually would regain
the respect of a lot of people, especially as players.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
I know that Dolphins fired Dave Wanstet the year before
he came to pitt.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Or he resigned.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
I think they were going to fire him and he resigned,
But yeah, I think it was after like a one
and seven start or something like that. So we're entering
that territory and one that was kind of beloved in
Miami because of his days with the University of Miami
and then then in inheriting from Jimmy Johnson the Dolphins
job and having done a good job as a defensive coordinatory.
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He's been well liked most places he's gone, and well
liked enough in Chicago even after not doing well with
the Bears that he made it his home. So yeah,
I think Mike Mantinels had in that direction to some degree.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Have you heard it? Did you hear him? You want
to hear it.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
There's a lot of guys that will have an important
work week because, uh, we're not. I mean, if you
are negatively affecting the football team routinely, I don't have
a choice but to you know, assess a different player
and and I have to coach.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
A lot better as well.
Speaker 10 (22:28):
So we need we're gonna find out who and what
we're made of.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Yeah, he's he's looking at personnel decisions. Now, that's that's
the big thing.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
He sounds like a stoner. That's let's make believing that
he's a coach like he doesn't sound like he belongs
or knows what he's doing at all.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
He sounds like he's in a movie plot where like
he shuckk Like he's like did like a crystal ball
and woke up one and.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I just heard rit stuff.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Rogan telling a story about how in one of the
movies they shot that they based a scene on something
that happened with one of his friends where they were
out and he was really messed up and ended up
in the bathroom naked upside in a like a shop,
a pizza shop or something like that, and they were like,
He's like, yeah, I fall asleep and I'm in the bathroom.
They're like, yeah, you're out in public, like we need
to get your clothes on and everything. But it's like,
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like that's how I feel like we're at. This part
of the story is that seth Rogan's gonna come in
it out and have a really good story about his
time hanging out with Mike McDaniel. The Dolphins had eleven
penalties for one hundred and three yards. This kind of
stuff he's talking about, four turnovers, three of them were
interceptions by Tua. They also had a fumble on a
kick return. So I don't know that benching Tua is
the answer. I think everybody Miami knows that, but getting
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him to play better, But it might be benching some
of the guys around him. Benching a quarterback isn't necessarily
the perfect answer for some is Loston or the Las
Vegas Raiders found out and the thirty one nothing lost
to the Kansas City Chiefs. They had Kenny Pickett replaced
Gino Smith in the four quarter and he fumbled the
first snap and went two for two freight yards from.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Cleveland during the preseason.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And you can't get worse about how big that ball is.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Handy.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Let's give Kenny picken. No, let's not give him a hand,
Let's give him bigger hands, a big hand. Well, it
could be worse. You could be the New York Giants.
Not only did they have a New York Giants fan
take an unfortunate spill at one of the No King's rallies.
I don't know if you saw that one.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It was New York, wasn't. Yeah try to chase a
kid down.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Yeah, he fell and then someone tripped him, so he
took a couple of spills. But the New York Giants
won up them. You know, they had a They had
a thirty two to nothing lead going into the fourth
quarter against the Denver Broncos. Broncos were in danger of
being shut out at home for the first time in
their sixty six year history. Scored thirty three points in
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the fourth quarter thirty nine yard Will LUTs field goal
as time expired. The thirty three fourth quarter points is
the most an NFL history by any team that was
shut out through the first three quarters. Incredible, the second
most of any comeback. The Detroit Lions came back from
a thirty four point deficit and a thirty seven to
twenty seven win over the Chicago Bears September thirtieth, two
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thousand and seven. One thousand, six hundred and two consecutive
games have been played in the NFL. It snapped a
streak here when leading by eighteen points in the final
six minutes. So the Giants just absolutely blew up. Bo Nicks,
the quarterback for the Broncos, had He's the first player
to run for two touchdowns and throw for two touchdowns
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in one quarter. That's how made he.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Went off that game and that that fourth quarter was
some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. Yeah,
and it's crazy because you know, the Giants are going
to be made fun of for this epic soiling of
the sheets that just happened for them out there in Denver.
But really, I mean that fan base has to at
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least be excited about the fact that Jackson Dart looks
like a dude and Scataboo, if he doesn't see te
himself out of the league, is a bulldog.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, carry you know, I mean that dude.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Just lives in the blue tent.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But but you got to be excited if you're a
Giants fan about the potential of those two building around them.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You got to be excited.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
If you're a Denver Broncos fan, Bowe Nicks is the
real deal.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Yeah, and they're they're five and two of the Giants
are two and five. But yeah, that's a that's a
big one. The tight end. I think Daniel Bellinger for
the Giants that this is going to haunt us for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh I bet all.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Right, let's get ready for Jah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah yeah, sorry, Abby, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
The top of the hour? Lost myself off there for
a second.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
We get lost when we talk Steelers. The height at
the Louver we'll get to that. And also we want
to get ready to trick or treat everybody.
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
Today Jerry Dulac joining the program. Jerry D, thanks so
much for waking.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Up and I guess there was just absolutely no traffic
in the middle of the field last Thursday night in Cincinnati.
My first question for you, now that the dust has settled,
what do you think the Steelers are most concerned about
after that loss in Cincy And what do you think
is their biggest issue as they prepare for Green Bay
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and heading into the rest of the season.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
Well, Billy, I feel that it's a wonderfully ironic that
I'm sponsored by traffic safety when I'm driving my car.
You know, I think, really, it's when you look at it.
It has certainly not offensively, and it has to be
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what they're doing schematically defensively, and that is either Okay,
how much sub package defense do you want to play
and invite teams to run the ball, which is what
the worst brushing attack in the NFL did Thursday night
in Cincinnati with success, or do you want to go
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back to your base and rely on the quarterbacks that
you brought in to play press coverage and that test
for the first time. You know, that's what they geared
for when they brought those guys in, said Okay, this
weird will be able to match up with Cincinnati. Well
they failed that test miserably. So now will that continue?
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You certainly hope not. They get another rematch for Cincinnati
to try it again a little bit later, But that
had I don't want to say it would be alarming.
I'm not sure it's concerning, but it certainly must have
their attention because what they had hoped to be able
to do did not work at all. I mean, thirty
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targets between those two guys, excuse me, thirty three targets
between those two guys, twenty three by Jamar Chase, most
ever against the Steelers, a third most all time. I mean, really,
they were just playing pitch and catch with him. It
looked so easy and there wasn't one I think the
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two of them that well. They had four pass interference
calls against the Joey Porter and Jalen Ramsey, and I
think they had a total of three passes defense on
thirty three targets. I mean, obviously that's not very good.
And I mean look, Jalen Ramsey stood up afterwards, he said, hey,
forget everybody else, I have to be better, and he
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was right. I mean, you know, even that past that,
the Higgins at the end, you know, they beat Jalen
Ramsey on that play. So it was not a good
performance by the guys they were hoping to be able to,
you know, if not shut down Cincinnati, certainly do a
better job than that.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I really do hope that it's a scheme thing and
not a player thing, because the roster is the roster
and the soft zone, and the choice not to come
after Flacco early and often in that game last Thursday
night proved to be costly. And I hope that they
changed something up because with games against Jordan Love, Justin Hurrtbert,
Joe Flacco again, Josh Allen, Jared Goff and potentially Lamar
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Jackson twice, the challenge isn't going to get any easier.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
No, And I think to the other thing that that
was in play at Cincinnati, you know they they're not
going to be able to come after Joe Flaco as
quick because he gets rid of the ball, he knows
what he's looking at, He's going to get rid of it.
It's like Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers hasn't been sacked in
three games, and there's a reason why because when he
sees it coming, you know, he knows get rid of it,
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and he gets rid of it quick. Anyhow, same deal. So,
and if the Bengals are max protected, which means they're
keeping one or two extra guys in to stop the
pass rush, then that means they have fewer guys in coverage.
So then the answer to that is, okay, if you're
not going to get him to if you're not going
to get at Flacco by bringing more guys and drop
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more guys in the coverage where they're killing you. So
that's that was kind of the conundrum that was going
on that they never ever solved. And you know, after
coming back and taking that lead, let's face it, first
of all, that was a real That was a was
a really exciting game to watch, and then for them
to come back and then once again he too easy
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passes to Jamar Chase not to start that drive and
then just t Higgins not the sideline. It was it
was all too easy for the Bankers.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Jerry Kevin Gorman here wanted to see are there players
you think the Steelers could target, whether it's signing somebody
who's still kind of on the street or making a
trade to address some of their you know, defensive issues.
I've heard people wishful thinking mentioned a Christian Wilkins or
an Asante Samuel, Who are out there or are there
guys that you think the Stewers could target on the
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trade market?
Speaker 9 (32:49):
You know, keV, I think they have the guys that
barring and injury, I think they feel they have the
guys they want to go with, you know, they had
their two young linemen, they liked the guy in the secondary.
They brought in so many guys every event, that entire secondary.
They're not going to change it just based on one game.
They'll just change what they do a little bit. But again,
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it was alarming because they matched up on those guys
and it and it just didn't work. So but no,
I don't expect them to make any moves, barring an
injury defensively at all.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, what are they going to do offensively?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Do you think that they're going to go out and
try to get a wide receiver too? It seems like
we've heard this talk for the last two years, but
for some reason, it's just the story that won't die.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
Really, and I think that's that, you know, that's somewhat
the fans wishful thinking. I'm not saying that, you know,
they're always looking, but you see what they're doing with
their tight ends. No team in the league relies on
their tight ends more than the Steelers, and so they
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feel they can get by. And they've shown that without
Calvin Austin for a couple of games, and Calvin Austin's
expected to come back Sunday and and I think if
you see them go get a wide receiver, it's going
to be the equivalent of Mike Williams what they did
last year. And now I get barring injury, something would
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happen the DK metcalf. Now it's a whole other all game.
But I don't know that they're actively pursuing it. But
I can tell you you know they're always looking. But
I don't think they're ready to push any kind of
button to say we we need to go get a wide,
second wide receiver, a number two wide receiver, because you're
seeing what they're doing with all their different tight ends.
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So I don't I don't think. I don't think they're
they're If I had to bet, I would say they're not.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Going to do it.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
That doesn't mean that they that they won't.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Jerry, you tweeted something that kind of broke everybody's brain.
In the past four games, the own it has average
nearly twenty more plays per game than the Steelers, and
we've kind of tossed around that that's not just a
defensive issue. But where do you want to pinpoint finding
a solution for that? Ahead of Green Bay.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
On Sunday, hebby, I'm glad you brought that up, because
it's incredible that the Cleveland Browns, who were held without
a touchdown, ran seventy five plays against the Steelers. Cincinnati
Bengals ran seventy two or seventy three, and so the
last four games is whatever that number was. The opponents
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of average seventy some plays a game. I think it's
seventy two or seventy three, and the Steelers have run
fifty four. Well, there's no question that's on the defense
and their failure to get off the field. I don't
know how they continue, how those teams continue to compole
that many plays. The average team, the average team I
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think runs sixty two, sixty three or sixty four plays
a game, and so the Steelers aren't getting a lot
of plays, and part of that is because the defense
isn't giving them the ball back. You know. The other
side of that is maybe the Steelers they don't have
those seventeen to sixteen played drives if we saw the
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last couple of years, and they're striking a little quicker
with Aaron Rodgers, which is a good thing. But there's
no question when the opponent is running that many plays,
the faults on the defense, and yet the defense had
been winning games and playing pretty good the last leading
up to Cincinnati. So that's what's kind of strange about it.
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But that's an inordinate amount of play. So when the
difference is twenty plays a game, I guess what it's
not getting near offense the opportunities as many opportunities as
you would like to.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
See if they can write the runner Sunday night, that's
Jerry D. Read him in the Post Gazette or hear
him on the game day broadcast with our own Mike Persuda.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Jared, thanks so much for your time. We'll talk again
next week.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
You got it, Billy, I'll see you boys and girls.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Be safe out there. Sounds not great? All right?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
That's Jerry D joining us as he does each and
every Monday.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Haby, what are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
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I never had a great experience at the zoo.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Like I would take the girls and we would go
to the tiger exhibit and they'd either be laying down
or they weren't even there.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I couldn't see them in the grass was so high.
I'm like, are they sleeping behind a rock? This is this?
What this is?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Because I'm I'm I love those animals. I want to
see them, but it's like, am I really seeing them?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
They're in somebody's backyard and they're miserable. Yeah, they're depressed.
They're like I I'm from the you know, the desert
or the jungle. I'm not from Highland Park.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
They also know that the Steelers are oh and seven
and Thursday night football games under Tomlin against AFC nor.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
Thanks Brandy Bellman and the DV morning shows.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
A morning show and listen, and we're gonna be okay,
Like we're at at some point we're gonna get over
the Thursday night football loss. And we're still in like
you know, the the fire Tom and vortex, like you
know where we go through this cycle almost every year,
because like, isn't this the part of the cycle where
like now we go on like at least a four
(01:18):
to six game like Tare and then it's just good enough.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure which timeline we're on.
I'm not sure if we're not on, like the we
lose again, oh right, worse again, and then everybody's out
on the season, and then somehow they pull it together. Yeah,
that's surprisingly beat in the Indianapolis Colts by shutting down
Jonathan Taylor in the best run game in the NFL
(01:43):
and get us all back on board. And then Joe
Flacco I believe, comes to town again. I mean at
some point in there, there's.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Yeah, I think the Green Bay Indie Chargers. Yes, but
then yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But then Black's Blaco, Flaco's Baco. It would be great
if we could put that guy on his backo and
make it miserable for him.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But even the Browns, like.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
This weekend, watching the Browns do what they did to
Miami pissed me off. And I don't know why exactly,
but they were running wild on Miami, and Miami looks
like they just quit all together.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Miami's got some CTE issues going on like everywhere. Like
so I don't even know what to make of Miami.
Most of what I saw in Miami was like a
lot of the postgame stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh, I mean that coach needs to be fired, like yesterday.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
He's there is an argument for too much weed, Like
at some point I didn't think like because to me,
I'm all about the legalization.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
At this point, it's just like, just tell me exactly
what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You know, you need to make it illegal again.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
I think there. I think in Miami, make it illegal just.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
For him, nobody else.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
There's too much and that seems to be kind of
extended to even like Tatua.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's just it's no good, Like I even understand what
they have to be thinking as players with this goofball
on the sidelines, Like he has got as hoodie up,
his glasses are fogged, he can't put a sentence together.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
If you're playing for him, what are you even thinking
at this point?
Speaker 7 (03:20):
The thing that sucks for you know anybody.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I mean, like, listen, we don't have a stake in
the game less you know, for some reason you're a
Dolphins fan or whatever.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
But Mike McDaniel, like I liked him, so much at
the beginning.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, there was somebody who's quirky. I thought he was
just weird enough to be a genius.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And he was.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And he's young enough too that you're kind of like, man,
I like I feel some fire in him. I kind
of like feel like he's kind of setting this new
like a new class a coach.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
And it's ALLBS. It's ALLBS. This dude just wakes and bakes.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
And just says whatever comes out first, and it's ALLBS.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I think he could still be a really good coordinat Kevin.
I don't know what your feelings are about him, but
as a head coach, as the leader of the team,
I mean, one thing you cannot argue about with Mike
Tomlin is that he is a leader of men. Now
we can talk about schemes and time management and game
plans and all that stuff, and I think all those
(04:18):
criticisms are legit, but there's no question that everybody knows
who the leader is and are willing to follow him.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
I think there's a body language issue with him, And
it's not just Mike McDaniel's body language, but how the
players react to him. Right, he doesn't seem to be
a level of respect, and it doesn't seem to be
the level of respect from him towards some of his
other players too. I mean I've saw, you know, he
had a quarterback come off the field and just kind
of like looked at his play sheet and ignored the
quartermat yours.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Yeah, And it was just like you see things like
that and you think like, wow, there's there's something missing there.
And then you know when you talk to guys, And
this happened with Derek Shelton, and I remember staying up
late that Saturday night asking after asking Derek Shelt you
know what's wrong and how do you fix it? And
he said, I don't know. When the coach no longer
has an answer. Yeah, when they no longer have a
(05:10):
solution to offer, you know that they're fried. I'll be
stunned if Mike McDaniel still has a job come Tuesday,
Like that's we should be at the point where now
where after a loss, like you know, you lose thirty
one six to the Browns, So the Browns who.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Haven't cracked scoring twenty all season long?
Speaker 8 (05:27):
Yeah, and then you have two is they've made a
major investment in Tua and he was twelve to twenty
three hundred yards, three interceptions, twenty four point one passer rating.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
You know, three picks.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
That's you're not getting the performance out of the quarterback.
You might have to make a coaching change just to
save your quarterback who you invested a lot of money in.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And you know what's crazy, Kevi is that's why they
brought him there because Brian Flores, before he showed up
for the Pittsburgh Steelers, was supposedly running things in a
way that was too militant, and Tua lost all his confidence.
And this you know, genius offensive coordinator was going to
come fix him, and he put this highlight package together,
(06:10):
detailing and highlighting how awesome he thought Tua was. And
at the beginning it seemed like the perfect marriage. But
if you don't, if you're not getting the performance out
of him anymore, is that there's no reason for him
to be there.
Speaker 9 (06:23):
No.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
And that's why I think you see the Steelers to
kind of get back to your first point when you
talk about leader of men, the Steelers don't want to
change the man at the top because they believe he
has the respect of not just the locker room, but
the entire organization that Mike Tomlin and really all of football.
When you see Mike Tomlin interact at the Senior Bowl
or interact at the Pro Bowl, he has the respect
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of players players, and they like him. They want to
play for him. So that's why they change coordinators. That's
why they've changed offensive and defensive coordinators. It's okay, let's
bring in a fresh perspective for the players for in
terms of play calling and time management and things like
that that they can control without necessarily changing the entire organization.
Because when you're changing the head coach, that's the face
(07:06):
of the organization. And yeah, I'm kind of still stunned
that Mike McDaniel has a head coaching job in the
NFL and Mike McCarthy does not.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, well, he seems to be shotgunning things into Tua's
mouth or something.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
But regardless, we'll get to that maybe later in sports.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
But the other thing that you know, you said about Tomlin,
and this might be something that we throw towards Jerry
Doulac a little later on this hour. We've had this
conversation on the show so many times about the head
coach and the quarterback and kind of who bears the
brunt of like where is the talent?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Where does the talent lie?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And to talk about Mike Tomlin being this leader of
men when we look at kind of what has happened
in the wake of people leaving Mike Tomlin's leadership, Russell Wilson,
justin Field's getting benched. This weekend, we saw Kenny pick
it go in for a series and.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just Booth immediately fumble. I mean I think he completed
two passes.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
For eight yards.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, and they got blanked by the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Right, So there's so there seems to be a little
bit of insight there, you know, Dickens.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Maybe being the exception, and I don't think anybody didn't
think that that would happen in Dallas, like that just
was it wasn't ever going to happen here.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And we talked about that with with Glass.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Now, you know, there's some players where it's like he's
such a head case that if you don't have a
franchise level quarterback that's just going to throw him the
ball and get him the ball continuously, he's going to
tank and he's not going to be a good teammate
and he's going to be throwing stuff on the sidelines,
and so they're having a great season. Ceedee lamb gets hurt,
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George Pickens, you know, feasts in his absence. Then ceed
comes back, and it looks like they wanted it to
look like they thought it could look and great until
it isn't. Like He is a to me, a finishing piece,
not a piece you build around. And I understand that
now we need that guy back here and we're looking
(09:01):
for a second receiver, But I just don't think that
that was a fit here.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I don't think he ever would have got the numbers
he's doing in Dallas here.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
I don't know I would. I'm curious to see. I
never I never bought into the idea that the Steelers
would have Aaron Rodgers throwing to DK Metcalf and George Pickens.
I always thought Metcalf was brought in signed to the
contract and that meant Pickens was on his way out.
Ye boy, would be nice to see how if he
would have played off Dk Metcalf the way that he's
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playing off CD lamb oh and having Dak Prescott throw
him to him, if he would have had Aaron Rodgers,
if Rodgers could have picked teams apart with those two
as his primary wideouts, that that would be interesting to
see just in theory.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But I agree with everything you said. I felt like
to some.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
Degree that George Pickens was a bit of a cancer
for the Steelers by his actions, by his tantrums, by
his you know, you can't count on You're not sure
what you're getting day to day from him game to game.
And I think the Steers couldn't invest in that, they
couldn't make a long term investment and a guy when
they didn't know what they were going to get.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
You gotta trust that they know something that you don't.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
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Is that just accessing a different part of your brain exactly.
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It doesn't go into a deep explanation on this particular article,
but I do remember that from the past, just like
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Speaker 5 (11:15):
I know that in my psych training that there was
there are different parts of your brain that you're accessing.
So yes, when you're looking right, you're trying to make
something up. When you're looking to the left trying to
remember something, Okay, long pauses, which this triggers me a
little bit. Liars may stall or repeat your question to
buy time. The reason why this triggers me is I
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stall because I am trying deeply not to say something
stupid or be misunderstood.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Sure, and my.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Dad does it too.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I always whenever I am doing an impression of my father,
I always take a.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Very deep pause.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
But my dad is very rarely misunderstood, and I hold
him to a very very high, you know standard, and
he's just you know, he's my hero in so many ways,
but like he never minches his words, but he's always
very very clear, but he takes long lung pauses.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I remember my dad or something like a Steeler fan
who remembers the seventies teams very well, saying that about Franco,
because like every question that Franco has asked, he would
sort of pause and have a very slow answer, and
everybody was like, well, what's going on with this guy?
But it just turned out that he was trying to
be thoughtful exactly. I thought that that's what you know,
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slow response time meant. I think either that or you
know you're an idiot, But most often it's it's your
trying to come up with a thoughtful response.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I think that because on the flip side of that,
my mom will tell you that she talks out of
her neck and she will say the wrong thing all
the time. She's like Queen of malapropes, and soci'll say
things like, you know, it's the school.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Of four knocks.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Odd?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Noh up?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Number three voice changes. Listen for higher pitched or breathless tone.
Usually this is caused by stress or the Steelers driving
you crazy.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Number four is fidgeting.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Unfortunately, this means all elementary school children are liars.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, I think you kind of have to.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
All kids nowadays are just sort of uncomfortable, and they
have things and toys for their discomfort. Like they actually
have fidget spinners and all those little weird things you
can pop, like with the little bubbles and stuff, and
so there's there's tools for that now.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Which I guess show me an adult that doesn't see
their kids fidget spinners and want them.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh, I play with them all the time. I'm the
only one that still plays with those things.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Yeah, constantly.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I feel like our generation only had the stress balls.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Yeah, well we get Elmer's glue. You could just squeeze
a little peel it off your fingers.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Sounds right.
Speaker 10 (14:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
I don't know how much I'm agreeing with this list.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
If we're being honest, I feel like there's probably a
better ones.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Maybe we can add to it. But the poker face
comes in at number five.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Some people remain completely still while they're lying to avoid
giving anything away. I feel like when I go back
in my memory bank, the people that have lied to
me have been the ones that are like completely frozen.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
TJ. Watte eyes at me. Those are the ones that
I'm like you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Piece of cold dark distance.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Oh yeah, exactly six? Is I dancing?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
If their eyes are all over the room, it can
be a sign of panic or drug abuse. Yeah, that
sounds like you're tweaking. Sounds like you got a Mike
McDonald's thing going on.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Whatever that Jets coach Adam Gase took right before or
his first press conference.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Over compensation, and this makes sense to me.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
A liar might puff up or act overly confident when
they're trying to get away with something.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Mm hmm makes sense, which goes along.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
With number ten.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
If I jump ahead here, too many filler words, if
every sentence starts with um or you know, or basically
they might be lying, but I would say that, and
over compensation when somebody adds, like too many details that
you didn't really need.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah right, that's.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
When you're kind of like, why, why is that important?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 7 (15:33):
This's up?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What picture are you painting?
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Bob Roth That a happy little accident That.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Barrier rituals comes in at number eight, which is things
like crossed arms, headshakes, which all signal defensiveness that can
be a subconscious tell I.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Have a problem with the folded arms thing. And then
it's not really because I'm lying or anything. It's just
like I don't know what to do with my arms.
H feels weird to just have them down at my sides,
like if I think about it too much.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Yeah, you know, I do that more when I am bored.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Just like as a way to just kind of get
comfortable with yourself and just kind of lean back and
be like, all right, well, what is this conversation?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Really? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
I think when I'm in I'm in the folded arms thing,
I'm like, wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, I get I get into bed, I lay down. Yeah,
I start laying down wherever I am.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
That's my shivasa.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I'm doing the side eyed abby when I'm doing my
sports updates. See the folded arms.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Don't wrap it up. And the final one is a
forced smile.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
A forced lifeless smile can be a sign that they're fibbing. Actually,
you know what I remember seeing that in like one
of those true crime docs is that when like a
serial killer is actually confessing that, they usually have them
on camera, and like if somebody is talking about a
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crime that they committed, but they're like they're saying they
didn't do it or whatever. That the thing that like
detectives will look for is whenever they say they didn't
do something, they have a tiny little curve and a
little smile at the end once the detective like says like, Okay, yeah,
I believe you, because that serial killer, whoever that person is,
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like cannot physically hide the fact that they are so
thrilled they get away with it, like they are so
just charged up and just get so much juice from
the fact that they get one over.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
On somebody, and they.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Give it away by being like yeah, Vncini's bread.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Now the opposite tick like if somebody thinks I'm lying,
even if I'm not lying, I start smiling, like I
look guilty even though.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I haven't done anything. I'm like, I don't know. Just
the fact that you think I might have is weird
to me, and I just can't stop smiling.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Well, you know, yeah, someone screenshotted me from a video
when we were talking to.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
The Pirates. I think Travis Williams, the Pirates part.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
Team president after the season, and he said something and
I obviously I wear my expressions on my face. I'll
be the first and someone screenshoted me and they said,
this is the face you make when you know the
person talking to you is lying.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And they were like, I was like, I was like,
oh man.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
And the funny thing is I was holding a microphone
for one of the TV stations and I had my
phone and a lot of the time I kept looking
down at my phone checking to see the timestamps. Okay,
he said something, I want to remember this time, and
you know, so I can kind of make a mark
mark for that. And so there there were some faces
I was making where I was looking down at my phone,
not like paying attention to what he was saying. You know,
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it was it wasn't reaction to that. It was reaction. Okay,
this is what time it is. So I'm like, but
you know, somebody screenshot it. They were like, oh, here's
the face they look they make.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I was like, oh boy, we're gonna be good this
year's playoffs.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We're gonna spend get some pods.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Cloudy's guys today in a high of fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
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Speaker 3 (20:08):
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Who's filling in with sports for you all morning long?
Speaker 8 (20:18):
keV, Well, if you want to feel a little bit
better about the Steelers situation, given that they are four
and two heading into Sunday nights game against the Green
Bay Packers, take a look around the rest of the
NFL and the dumpster fires that are, especially with the
Miami Dolphins, who are one in six after a thirty
one to six loss to the Cleveland Browns. Entering this
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season in the Super Bowl era, one hundred and fifty
four teams had started the season one and six. Only
the nineteen seventy Cincinnati Bengals made the playoffs. If you
need reason to fire Mike McDaniel, aside from all the
other reasons, there's one right there. Yeah, McDaniel said that,
you know, the way he looks at the job is
he finds a very offensive to all parties involved if he.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Thinks about having the job. So he has a job
to do.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
He's not concentrating on whether he should be fired because
he knows the answer to that.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
So my wife start concentrating on it.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, I mean, has anybody ever fired themselves? Because I
feel like he could do that and actually would regain
the respect of a lot of people, especially as players.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
I know that Dolphins fired Dave Wanstet the year before
he came to pitt.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Or he resigned.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
I think they were going to fire him and he resigned,
But yeah, I think it was after like a one
and seven start or something like that. So we're entering
that territory and one that was kind of beloved in
Miami because of his days with the University of Miami
and then then in inheriting from Jimmy Johnson the Dolphins
job and having done a good job as a defensive coordinatory.
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He's been well liked most places he's gone, and well
liked enough in Chicago even after not doing well with
the Bears that he made it his home. So yeah,
I think Mike Mantinels had in that direction to some degree.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Have you heard it? Did you hear him? You want
to hear it.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
There's a lot of guys that will have an important
work week because, uh, we're not. I mean, if you
are negatively affecting the football team routinely, I don't have
a choice but to you know, assess a different player
and and I have to coach.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
A lot better as well.
Speaker 10 (22:28):
So we need we're gonna find out who and what
we're made of.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Yeah, he's he's looking at personnel decisions. Now, that's that's
the big thing.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
He sounds like a stoner. That's let's make believing that
he's a coach like he doesn't sound like he belongs
or knows what he's doing at all.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
He sounds like he's in a movie plot where like
he shuckk Like he's like did like a crystal ball
and woke up one and.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I just heard rit stuff.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Rogan telling a story about how in one of the
movies they shot that they based a scene on something
that happened with one of his friends where they were
out and he was really messed up and ended up
in the bathroom naked upside in a like a shop,
a pizza shop or something like that, and they were like,
He's like, yeah, I fall asleep and I'm in the bathroom.
They're like, yeah, you're out in public, like we need
to get your clothes on and everything. But it's like,
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like that's how I feel like we're at. This part
of the story is that seth Rogan's gonna come in
it out and have a really good story about his
time hanging out with Mike McDaniel. The Dolphins had eleven
penalties for one hundred and three yards. This kind of
stuff he's talking about, four turnovers, three of them were
interceptions by Tua. They also had a fumble on a
kick return. So I don't know that benching Tua is
the answer. I think everybody Miami knows that, but getting
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him to play better, But it might be benching some
of the guys around him. Benching a quarterback isn't necessarily
the perfect answer for some is Loston or the Las
Vegas Raiders found out and the thirty one nothing lost
to the Kansas City Chiefs. They had Kenny Pickett replaced
Gino Smith in the four quarter and he fumbled the
first snap and went two for two freight yards from.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Cleveland during the preseason.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And you can't get worse about how big that ball is.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Handy.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Let's give Kenny picken. No, let's not give him a hand,
Let's give him bigger hands, a big hand. Well, it
could be worse. You could be the New York Giants.
Not only did they have a New York Giants fan
take an unfortunate spill at one of the No King's rallies.
I don't know if you saw that one.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It was New York, wasn't. Yeah try to chase a
kid down.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Yeah, he fell and then someone tripped him, so he
took a couple of spills. But the New York Giants
won up them. You know, they had a They had
a thirty two to nothing lead going into the fourth
quarter against the Denver Broncos. Broncos were in danger of
being shut out at home for the first time in
their sixty six year history. Scored thirty three points in
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the fourth quarter thirty nine yard Will LUTs field goal
as time expired. The thirty three fourth quarter points is
the most an NFL history by any team that was
shut out through the first three quarters. Incredible, the second
most of any comeback. The Detroit Lions came back from
a thirty four point deficit and a thirty seven to
twenty seven win over the Chicago Bears September thirtieth, two
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thousand and seven. One thousand, six hundred and two consecutive
games have been played in the NFL. It snapped a
streak here when leading by eighteen points in the final
six minutes. So the Giants just absolutely blew up. Bo Nicks,
the quarterback for the Broncos, had He's the first player
to run for two touchdowns and throw for two touchdowns
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in one quarter. That's how made he.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Went off that game and that that fourth quarter was
some of the most exciting football I've ever seen. Yeah,
and it's crazy because you know, the Giants are going
to be made fun of for this epic soiling of
the sheets that just happened for them out there in Denver.
But really, I mean that fan base has to at
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least be excited about the fact that Jackson Dart looks
like a dude and Scataboo, if he doesn't see te
himself out of the league, is a bulldog.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, carry you know, I mean that dude.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Just lives in the blue tent.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But but you got to be excited if you're a
Giants fan about the potential of those two building around them.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You got to be excited.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
If you're a Denver Broncos fan, Bowe Nicks is the
real deal.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Yeah, and they're they're five and two of the Giants
are two and five. But yeah, that's a that's a
big one. The tight end. I think Daniel Bellinger for
the Giants that this is going to haunt us for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh I bet all.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Right, let's get ready for Jah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah yeah, sorry, Abby, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
The top of the hour? Lost myself off there for
a second.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
We get lost when we talk Steelers. The height at
the Louver we'll get to that. And also we want
to get ready to trick or treat everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
Today Jerry Dulac joining the program. Jerry D, thanks so
much for waking.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Up and I guess there was just absolutely no traffic
in the middle of the field last Thursday night in Cincinnati.
My first question for you, now that the dust has settled,
what do you think the Steelers are most concerned about
after that loss in Cincy And what do you think
is their biggest issue as they prepare for Green Bay
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and heading into the rest of the season.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
Well, Billy, I feel that it's a wonderfully ironic that
I'm sponsored by traffic safety when I'm driving my car.
You know, I think, really, it's when you look at it.
It has certainly not offensively, and it has to be
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what they're doing schematically defensively, and that is either Okay,
how much sub package defense do you want to play
and invite teams to run the ball, which is what
the worst brushing attack in the NFL did Thursday night
in Cincinnati with success, or do you want to go
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back to your base and rely on the quarterbacks that
you brought in to play press coverage and that test
for the first time. You know, that's what they geared
for when they brought those guys in, said Okay, this
weird will be able to match up with Cincinnati. Well
they failed that test miserably. So now will that continue?
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You certainly hope not. They get another rematch for Cincinnati
to try it again a little bit later, But that
had I don't want to say it would be alarming.
I'm not sure it's concerning, but it certainly must have
their attention because what they had hoped to be able
to do did not work at all. I mean, thirty
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targets between those two guys, excuse me, thirty three targets
between those two guys, twenty three by Jamar Chase, most
ever against the Steelers, a third most all time. I mean, really,
they were just playing pitch and catch with him. It
looked so easy and there wasn't one I think the
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two of them that well. They had four pass interference
calls against the Joey Porter and Jalen Ramsey, and I
think they had a total of three passes defense on
thirty three targets. I mean, obviously that's not very good.
And I mean look, Jalen Ramsey stood up afterwards, he said, hey,
forget everybody else, I have to be better, and he
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was right. I mean, you know, even that past that,
the Higgins at the end, you know, they beat Jalen
Ramsey on that play. So it was not a good
performance by the guys they were hoping to be able to,
you know, if not shut down Cincinnati, certainly do a
better job than that.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I really do hope that it's a scheme thing and
not a player thing, because the roster is the roster
and the soft zone, and the choice not to come
after Flacco early and often in that game last Thursday
night proved to be costly. And I hope that they
changed something up because with games against Jordan Love, Justin Hurrtbert,
Joe Flacco again, Josh Allen, Jared Goff and potentially Lamar
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Jackson twice, the challenge isn't going to get any easier.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
No, And I think to the other thing that that
was in play at Cincinnati, you know they they're not
going to be able to come after Joe Flaco as
quick because he gets rid of the ball, he knows
what he's looking at, He's going to get rid of it.
It's like Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers hasn't been sacked in
three games, and there's a reason why because when he
sees it coming, you know, he knows get rid of it,
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and he gets rid of it quick. Anyhow, same deal. So,
and if the Bengals are max protected, which means they're
keeping one or two extra guys in to stop the
pass rush, then that means they have fewer guys in coverage.
So then the answer to that is, okay, if you're
not going to get him to if you're not going
to get at Flacco by bringing more guys and drop
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more guys in the coverage where they're killing you. So
that's that was kind of the conundrum that was going
on that they never ever solved. And you know, after
coming back and taking that lead, let's face it, first
of all, that was a real That was a was
a really exciting game to watch, and then for them
to come back and then once again he too easy
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passes to Jamar Chase not to start that drive and
then just t Higgins not the sideline. It was it
was all too easy for the Bankers.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Jerry Kevin Gorman here wanted to see are there players
you think the Steelers could target, whether it's signing somebody
who's still kind of on the street or making a
trade to address some of their you know, defensive issues.
I've heard people wishful thinking mentioned a Christian Wilkins or
an Asante Samuel, Who are out there or are there
guys that you think the Stewers could target on the
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trade market?
Speaker 9 (32:49):
You know, keV, I think they have the guys that
barring and injury, I think they feel they have the
guys they want to go with, you know, they had
their two young linemen, they liked the guy in the secondary.
They brought in so many guys every event, that entire secondary.
They're not going to change it just based on one game.
They'll just change what they do a little bit. But again,
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it was alarming because they matched up on those guys
and it and it just didn't work. So but no,
I don't expect them to make any moves, barring an
injury defensively at all.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, what are they going to do offensively?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Do you think that they're going to go out and
try to get a wide receiver too? It seems like
we've heard this talk for the last two years, but
for some reason, it's just the story that won't die.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
Really, and I think that's that, you know, that's somewhat
the fans wishful thinking. I'm not saying that, you know,
they're always looking, but you see what they're doing with
their tight ends. No team in the league relies on
their tight ends more than the Steelers, and so they
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feel they can get by. And they've shown that without
Calvin Austin for a couple of games, and Calvin Austin's
expected to come back Sunday and and I think if
you see them go get a wide receiver, it's going
to be the equivalent of Mike Williams what they did
last year. And now I get barring injury, something would
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happen the DK metcalf. Now it's a whole other all game.
But I don't know that they're actively pursuing it. But
I can tell you you know they're always looking. But
I don't think they're ready to push any kind of
button to say we we need to go get a wide,
second wide receiver, a number two wide receiver, because you're
seeing what they're doing with all their different tight ends.
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So I don't I don't think. I don't think they're
they're If I had to bet, I would say they're not.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Going to do it.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
That doesn't mean that they that they won't.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Jerry, you tweeted something that kind of broke everybody's brain.
In the past four games, the own it has average
nearly twenty more plays per game than the Steelers, and
we've kind of tossed around that that's not just a
defensive issue. But where do you want to pinpoint finding
a solution for that? Ahead of Green Bay.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
On Sunday, hebby, I'm glad you brought that up, because
it's incredible that the Cleveland Browns, who were held without
a touchdown, ran seventy five plays against the Steelers. Cincinnati
Bengals ran seventy two or seventy three, and so the
last four games is whatever that number was. The opponents
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of average seventy some plays a game. I think it's
seventy two or seventy three, and the Steelers have run
fifty four. Well, there's no question that's on the defense
and their failure to get off the field. I don't
know how they continue, how those teams continue to compole
that many plays. The average team, the average team I
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think runs sixty two, sixty three or sixty four plays
a game, and so the Steelers aren't getting a lot
of plays, and part of that is because the defense
isn't giving them the ball back. You know. The other
side of that is maybe the Steelers they don't have
those seventeen to sixteen played drives if we saw the
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last couple of years, and they're striking a little quicker
with Aaron Rodgers, which is a good thing. But there's
no question when the opponent is running that many plays,
the faults on the defense, and yet the defense had
been winning games and playing pretty good the last leading
up to Cincinnati. So that's what's kind of strange about it.
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But that's an inordinate amount of play. So when the
difference is twenty plays a game, I guess what it's
not getting near offense the opportunities as many opportunities as
you would like to.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
See if they can write the runner Sunday night, that's
Jerry D. Read him in the Post Gazette or hear
him on the game day broadcast with our own Mike Persuda.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
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