10.20.25 Randy Baumann and the DVE Morning Show FULL SHOW

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Live from the Don's Appliances Studios, where Pittsburgh shops for appliances.
This is WTV Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
That being said, bitching about the Browns no trading Flacco
was a bad look for Mike Tomlin and it made
it look worse last night.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, I thought it was gamesmanship and they were gonna
come out and come after him, and that is not
what happened.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Now it just looks like the guy who loves to
come out and say.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We do not care is like, why did they do
this to us?

Speaker 5 (00:57):
It looks bad.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
We know that.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
You know that. And then Austin.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Powers when he gets run over, when the guy gets
run over by the forklift. Yeah, but it's like one
hundred yards away. It's like, dude, we saw this coming. Yeah,
as soon as the trade was made, it was like no.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:14):
Brandy Bellman and the DV morning Show.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
We were processing so much of our pain.

Speaker 8 (01:20):
Yeah on Friday, and we still will continue to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
You think, oh yeah, you think not through it?

Speaker 5 (01:28):
No Steelers football, and we were through it.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm not over this and I can't stop thinking about
it no matter where I look. No, because that was
the time to kick a divisional opponent off a cliff. Yeah,
not to give them newfound life with their forty year
old quarterback. And that's exactly what we did. And by

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the way, the road is about to get narrow, you know.
I mean we got Green Bay coming to town this Sunday. Yeah,
we got at Indianapolis, who is playing out of their
mind this year. There's the surprise team of the year
because of the way Danny Dimes is playing. We play
the Bengals again, right, So Joe Burrow is gonna or

(02:14):
Joe Flacco's coming to town. Sorry I called him Joe
Burrow because that's what he looked like on Thursday night.
And you know, we still got the Ravens twice at
the end of the season, when Lamar is most likely
going to be healthy. So I know that everybody thinks
they're dead, but they're They're never dead to me. I

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just I have a hard time that how many times
in our adult life have the Ravens been like completely
out of a season. I don't remember that many times
They've been competitive, just like we have. That's why that
rivalry for me is the strongest, is because that rivalry
was forged in the postseason.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, that's why we hate them.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
That's why we hate them. We battled them.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
We I mean, I feel like we've gotten the better
of them in the postseason. You know, we beat them
to go to a super Bowl that we won. They've
knocked us off a few times in the playoffs of
late I mean last year they blew our doors off,
and so you know, I'm still not I'm still not
over it. I still don't know how we fix what

(03:24):
ails us.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
There's a lot of challenges. I'm glad.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
You know, we'll get to talk with Tim Benz a bit,
which you know he kind of always revs the engine,
so he'll be on a little Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
He's not gonna calm us down.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
No, No, he literally you mad, bro, so.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like yeah, and I feel like he's talking directly to us.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
He is, So he'll be a little later on this hour,
I did see like a.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
Koboli tweet saying that if the season ended today, This
was yesterday because I was watching nothing, but you know,
football and everything that I watch is in the context
of how it impacts the Steelers. Yeah, but he said
if the season ended today, the Steelers would win the
AFC North and be the fourth seed. They would host
Buffalo in a first round playoff game.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
That's cool.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
And then I'm like, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Oh you like that stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
See I can't stand that ye season ended today. Oh
you mean a quarter of the way through the season.

Speaker 8 (04:19):
That's like all the tiny little bit of like chum
in the water that I need.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
I'm like, all right, Coboli, let's go.

Speaker 8 (04:25):
Well you both put a sandwich in our pocket and
let's go.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
There's so many people telling us so many different things.
If you have the Cobolis of the world talking every
week about if the season ended right here, then you
have you know, the Max Starks of the world, who
is much more calm and collected and even keeled, saying, well,
you got to give these guys five to six weeks

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on the offensive line to really even know what you have.
And then you have you know, the actual like hardcore
Tomlin haters that like, this season is done, it's already
over fire, Tomlin, move on. And then you have the
rest of us who are kind of in the mushy
middle that are like, I don't know what to make
of this team. A Rod has been the pleasant surprise, right, Like,

(05:12):
I feel like we're doing things offensively, like we're starting
to come together, But defensively, what is going on?

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, I think we're getting run on.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
We're getting passed on. It will we can't get off
the field.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
On third down.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
Defensively is the hardest to take because again it was
so much of the narrative, especially when we were at
training camp. That was because again, offensively, the biggest story
is that Aaron Rodgers is leading the way and we've
seen a lot of it, even though there are offensive

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problems as well, and that is going to be what
we talked with Tim about is you know, that's one
element of it, is that.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
There's fall on both sides. Your boys not.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Not playing complimentary ball.

Speaker 8 (06:04):
No, But defensively I think is the biggest shocker because
we do have the personnel to have and a ton
of money and a ton of money that there should
be really no issue. I mean we have we have
shark eyes right there with TJ. Watt, you know, like

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there's so there's.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
So many just unbelievable historic players.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
Yeah, and for the historic defense that we were promised,
Like this just isn't what it should look like.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, I got to get this out now, and
this is a perfect place to do it.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's right out of the gate. It's just me and
you sitting here talking.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Mike and Randy are off today, by the way, we
got Kevin Gorman filling in with sports. But this is
a feeling that I've had sort of in the back
of my head. I don't want to say it out
loud because I don't know for a it's not gospel,
it's not definitely the truth. But the Tomlin defense is
predicated on turnovers, right, Like, you got to turn the

(07:09):
ball over, and.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
We do that very well.

Speaker 9 (07:12):
But I feel like that is the fatal flaw in
the philosophy, like the philosophy of defense that Tomlin has, because.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Number one, when you when you talk about turning the
ball over and getting turnovers and creating splash, you're playing
more individual ball, like it's about the individual player getting
that turnover, right, So you have guys thinking in that
way and not in a collective And then you get
into the postseason and teams are better coached there, you know,

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safer with the ball, they're more conservative, they don't turn
the ball over. And what happens is these defenses give
up a ton of yards, but then they get the turnover, right,
so it kind of negates all the yards that they
gave up. It might like look not the greatest, but
then there's a splash play. But if you take away

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that splash, you're just getting dog walked up and down
the field all day. And against playoff teams, it clearly
isn't working.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
It hasn't worked.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
So when I see that in a game where the
Bengals are prone to turning the ball over just like
anybody else else, and we're not winning those battles and
getting those turnovers and actually they're getting a couple, I'm like, well,
we're not going to beat any good team with any
quarterback that knows what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
With this kind of defense.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
They're just going to pick the soft zone apart, work
it all the way down the field and then you know,
punch it in or they get a big splash play
where there's a completely wide open broken play and they score.

Speaker 8 (08:55):
And when you're looking for splash plays and you have,
again going back to personnel, so many names that are
just disappearing where you're just like.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Hey, what happens, where's he been?

Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yeah again, we you know, we get the opportunity to
talk to players sometimes and when we talked with herbig
and we're like, Wow, man, this guy's ready to bust out.
And then the next week, you know, he has a game.
Be like, didn't mention him at all. Nope, didn't even.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Hear his name.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Where was he?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
He wasn't on the field because the Steelers couldn't stop
the run, so they were putting in high Smith yeah,
and taking him off the field. And he's like one
of the hottest players in the league right now. I
mean he's leading the Steelers in sacks, so stuff like that.
I'm just like, ah, you know, I don't know from
a strategy standpoint, yeah, you know, but I know that

(09:42):
they're going to have to figure it out and they're
going to get another chance because here comes Josh Jacobs,
yeah and the Green Bay Packers and this is the
Aaron Rodgers revenge game.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
And yeah, to me, this is more of a revenge
game than the Jets.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
To me.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
The thing for Rogers, I don't think he was downplaying.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean, I think he wanted to stick it to
that coach that basically may fly across the country to
tell him to take a hike.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah, and we wanted to see fields. I get all
of that.

Speaker 8 (10:09):
But like to me, this is the actual revenge came,
So of course we'll get into all of that, and
then with Tim Benz and Jerry Doula is going to
be on the show as well, Yes he is.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Thank you for letting me get that out.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
I appreciate Listen in the safe space.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, this is the safe space.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Again.

Speaker 8 (10:27):
As Bill mentioned, Randy's off today and Mike is off,
so we'll chat with Kevin Gorman as well. He'll be
hitting us with sports at the bottom of the hour.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
News.

Speaker 8 (10:34):
This hour is brought to you by your neighborhood Ford Store,
Cloudy Skies today and it's going to be a high
of fifty nine. I start you off with a little
bit of music news here. And this was a big
shocker yesterday. Limp Biscuit basis Sam Rivers has passed away.
And the shocker here is because Limp Biscuit is pretty

(10:55):
active once again and Sam Rivers just forty eight years old.
Oh my god, No cause of death was real. Well,
that's what's weird here. Back in twenty twenty, Rivers had
admitted that when he left the band back in twenty fifteen,
it was because of liver disease which was caused by
excessive drinking, and he had received a liver transplant, but

(11:18):
then he rejoined the band back in twenty eighteen, so
there's really not a lot of information after that as
to whether that helped him kind of achieve a healthy
lifestyle and if that changed his life after that. So
anything beyond that is speculation. But the band announced his

(11:39):
passing late Saturday night, saying that Sam Rivers wasn't just
our bass player. He was pure magic. It was the
pulse beneath every song. It was the calm in the chaos.
I don't know if there was any calm in their chaos,
but it was the soul in the sound. And his
presence is unforgettable and his heart was enormous. Rivers met

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Fred Durst while they were working at a Chick fil
A at a mall in Jacksonville, Florida. Oh really Yeah,
and they hit it off.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Wait, how long has Chick fil A been out?

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (12:10):
As long as Limp Biscuit.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
That's crazy because I don't know why, but I just
I feel like Chick fil A is pretty.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
New, But I have to I mean, maybe maybe we.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Just weren't paying attention to it because it just never registered.
Like when I think of my childhood, certainly I never
register Chick fil A.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Same Chick fil A wasn't anything for me.

Speaker 8 (12:31):
I mean maybe it's just like the marketing of Chick
fil A and the pop of using the cows and
everything and just being like, oh, what's up.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, we're here now we're revamped.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, you know what's crazy is Limp Biscuit went away
for a long time, and I feel like they just
resurfaced twenty twenty one or twenty twenty, like they did
a festival and Fred Durst had gray hair and he
came out and like he looked his look went viral.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Do you remember this, yes.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Where he looked like an FBI agent that was in
his sixties.

Speaker 8 (13:11):
They have leaned into the fact that as much, you know,
as sonically it is not what you would say, is
dad rock, that that's kind of what they are now
because dads grew up listening to Lymphiscuit. But he's had
several looks on stage where yes, he's he's great, and
he's got a beard. And actually Sam Rivers kind of

(13:34):
looked like this too, Like Sam Rivers doesn't look or
didn't look that different than from Kyle Gas from Tenacious Team,
you know, but you know, Fred durstill gets on stage sometimes,
you know, grade and in overalls, you know, and really
does lean into Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
No, I'm an old man now, dude, I don't care.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
And so my bisket really is lamp out.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
I need blue Choo for my biscuit.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Bluetoo Biscuit is our revamped name.

Speaker 8 (14:09):
Limp Biscuit sponsored by Blue Choe. But to your point,
Limp Biscuit obviously so huge in the nineties. I think
once they did the revamped Woodstock and they had you know,
that huge wash pit.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Oh you're talking about the ninety nine Woodstock.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, the bad one.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, the bad one that they actually incited a riot at.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (14:37):
I think that was probably the apex of people's tolerance
of them, because it really did highlight the let's say
male violence aspect of their I don't want to say

(14:57):
music because I don't I don't like kind of lumping
that in where you know, obviously, there's been so many
times in music history where it's like it's the music
that's making everybody like this, and it's like, well, it's
culture or if the.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Music is attracting a certain kind of person.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, the word in cell was not in our vernacular
at that point, but it was just young white males
with a lot of anger and frustration, right, and they
would come to those concerts and really act that out,
mosh and go crazy and punch each other in the face.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
The loaners they find their thing, and they may find
themselves in music, they might find themselves in a chat room,
they might find themselves in a variety of places. But
there was some element of, you know, a need to
express that violent aspect that that band attracted in a

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way definitely when they.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Found a home there.

Speaker 8 (15:58):
But that particular moment in time and in culture I
think was a bit of an apex for them, and
so there was a little bit of a backlash of
being like, ugh, you.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Know, can we move on from this?

Speaker 8 (16:10):
Like I've had enough monster energy drink for now, I
can't do this right more.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
And so that time period fascinates me the end of
the nineties because it was all the Y two K stuff,
like what's gonna happen when all the computers switch over
to the two thousands and all those zeros? Is everything
going to reset? Is all our stuff gonna be lost
totally and just for us, like I was graduating high
school going out into the world, like there was there

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was so much packed into the nineties.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
Yeah, and I think for what Limp Biscuit was doing,
that almost opened the door musically too for a little
bit of that like New York artsy lo fi scene.
That's where you got bands like The Strokes and the
White Stripes, eventually the Black Keys. You started getting people
who wanted to take it down a notch and get

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like a little back in the garage. Yeah, and you know,
a little less of the you know, Corn Limp Biscuit
Stained kind of bands like and so again. And this
is how music works in cycles. That's why I'm always
kind of like never fully afraid, being like, oh my god,
music's terrible and nothing's ever gonna come out of it.
There's always something becau is.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Always great and always terrible.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
It's a mushroom where are you looking decay and then
something grows out of it.

Speaker 8 (17:29):
I'm always I'm always optimistic something else is coming. But
for Limp Biscuit here, they just kind of have had
this resurgence and they just had a song that came
out called es No it was that.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
That was the song they had like four years ago
that when.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
They resurfaced, because it was all about Fred Durst giving
out hardcore dad vibes.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna I have to search it real
quick because I want to get the title right because
it was Magan love to Morgan Wallen. What that was
the name of the song And it went number one?
Like it it exploded it like it's a decent song,
but it.

Speaker 10 (18:14):
Actually was like for Olympus, like it wasn't bad and
it went number one in rock radio, like people lost
their minds over it, and it was all of a sudden.

Speaker 8 (18:24):
It was this narrative like, oh my god, Limbiscuits back,
like Biscuit is.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
So back, and all of the shows are doing great.

Speaker 8 (18:32):
But then now you see the same thing as happening
with Corn like all of them.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, I mean everything from the nineties is back, so
why not the bands?

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Why not them again?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
And that's pretty tough probably for somebody who's got a
new liver and maybe has had some demons that they've
battled and now you're back on the road doing that
whole thing.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
And I think you know, normally when you see somebody
die suddenly you know it. It usually is the simplest explanation.
He either would have had tremendous health challenges from having
a liver transplant then and you can happen and you're
already in a bad situation, or very much to your point,

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you already have challenges like that, and then all of
a sudden you are back in that hamster wheel that
you never imagine to be back in later in your life,
and it's asking you to maybe face demons that you
didn't actually heal, and yeah, yeah, you're right back in there.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
But I did I did that.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
They met at a Chick fil A, met at a
Chick fil A, and then the next thing, you know,
you want to be in a band.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Does Chick fil A have biscuits? I feel like they do.
Oh it sounds delicious right now, like a breakfast biscuit.
Breakfast biscuit?

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Oh my god, wait, does Chick fil I do breakfast?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Why are we whispering?

Speaker 8 (20:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
I don't want my stomach to hear.

Speaker 11 (20:05):
Are trying to enter in fast.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Let's just end the news sent and just tell us
what the weather's gonna be like.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You got it?

Speaker 5 (20:11):
It's gonna be claudiest guys.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Today and.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
It is the DV Morning Show. Randy and Mike are
off today. We're gonna do our best to hold down
the fort in their absence. Still have a packed house
for you today. Kevin Gorman is filling in on sports
all morning. We have Jerry d talking Steelers at eight
forty five, Tim Benn's talking Steelers at six forty five,
and we're gonna be talking Steelers, playoff baseball, maybe even
some Penguins with Kevin Gorman next on the DV Morning Show.

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Speaker 12 (21:05):
KeV Morning. Well, how about the uh Alcs There will
be a game seven tonight. Mm hmm, big pitching matchup
on the table here with Shane Bieber facing George Kirby
tonight in Game seven in Toronto. But last night it
was a twenty two year old right hander Trey Y

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Savage who put on a show for the Toronto Blue
Jays and a six to win over the Seattle Mariners.
The Savage started this season in low A. He was
a twenty twenty four first round draft pick, number twenty overall,
So the Pirates passed on this guy, but they took
Connor Griffin as the number one prospect in all of baseball.
But Trey You Savage allowed two runs on six hits

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and three walks, had seven strikeouts in five and two
third innings. Wow, and here's the impressive part. Like, that's
a good that's a good line right here. That's a
good one one out away from a quality start for
a twenty two years world rookie. He didn't make his
debut until September fifteenth. He in three consecutive innings he
got the Mariners to ground into inning ending double plays.

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He had not in his first twenty three and one
third innings and the Majors had not got a GIDP
and had only two in ninety eight innings in the minors.
So here's a guy in the most pressure packed situation
of his career gets them to do it. Not just
gets the Mariners to do it, he did it. Cow Rawly,
the and the favorite for the American League MVP Award,

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got him to ground into a three six one, which
is rare because it meant you Savage had to cover
first base in the third inning, JP Crawford in the fourth,
and Julio Rodriguez in the fifth. So big win for
the Blue Jays trying to get back to the World
Series after winning back to back in the early nineties,
Mariners trying to get there for the first time in
franchise history. They're actually a team that has a longer

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World Series drought than the Pirates. So if you can
believe that, Wow.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
It's incredible to me.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
keV like hearing these story worries of this kid like
coming from low a ball, Like just you know, from
the time you get drafted. I mean obviously, if you're
drafted top twenty, you're going to be in the bigs
at some point, but just that road is incredible to
traverse all five levels and maybe those guys are skipping
a level or two, a lot of it.

Speaker 12 (23:19):
This guy started low A, then the high A, double A,
triple A into the majors.

Speaker 13 (23:23):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (23:24):
And in Toronto you're going from at one point I
think you're in like New Hampshire or somewhere, and then
you're going to Vancouver and then you know, somewhere before
that and then Buffalo, like you're bouncing all over.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Dunaden's in the mix, right because that's where Jay Casey is.

Speaker 11 (23:38):
Yeah, that might where that might have been where he
started with dun Eden.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (23:41):
So it's kind of an incredible, incredible season for Treya
Savage and you know, topping it off last night.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
What allows a player like that to have that kind
of game in that moment like that he's never had before?
Like how how do you go up to the bigs
and have a game like you've never had before? Or
I guess just belief in yourself confidence.

Speaker 11 (24:03):
I think it's the ability, like the mental capacity to
focus and to just lock in on Okay, this is
what I have to do, and not letting allowing the
moment to get too big, because it's you know, when
it comes down to it, they're playing baseball. This is
a game to play their entire lives. But I think
the mental capacity where guys are able to say, okay,
like I'm just out there pitching like I normally would pitch.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, and to compartmentalize the pressure.

Speaker 12 (24:27):
Yes, And now he's doing it at home at the
Rogers Center, and the crowd was really behind them, and
and so you know that that plays a role in it,
but that also can add pressure.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, right, because the home crowd. You don't want to
let the home crowd down.

Speaker 12 (24:41):
No, And that's but just just the idea that he's
able to do it put on a performance like that, Yes,
And they took advantage. You know, Seattle had some shaky
defensive plays. They took advantage of playing some small ball
and getting a couple runs across early that way.

Speaker 11 (24:54):
And then Vlad Guerrero hit.

Speaker 12 (24:55):
A solo shot in the fifth inning, was the sixth
home run of the postseason, tying Joe car and Jose
Bautista for the most by the Blue Jays, most by
a Blue Jay individual in a single playoff run. And
so you know, we kind of foreshadowed that. We'll talk
a little bit later about the show. Heya tawny performance,
but he had won for the ages. The Dodgers swept
the Brewers, who had the best record in all of

(25:17):
baseball this season, and they're going to be waiting for
the winner of tonight's game. That World Series Game one
is Friday, but you got tonight. Well, you know, I
was all Mariners all the way. But now it looks
decidedly in the favor of the Blue Jays, given how
well Guerrero's playing. I think they said at one point
that he was something like nine for his last sixteen

(25:38):
at one point. I mean, this is a guy and
he's killing the ball. Yeah, and he's making great plays
on defense too, which is, you know, he's an offensive player,
but making some terrific plays at first base. And then
they have a little bit of an advantage that they
have a former Cy Young winner and Shane Bieber is
on the mound, and they've got a three time Sy
Young winner in the bullpen and Max Scherzer, who gave
his manager hell when he tried to come out for

(25:59):
him in his life starts, so you know, it's like,
I'm not coming out of the game, you go back
into the dugout that type of add.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Hasn't he been hurt all year, like he doesn't played
a time.

Speaker 12 (26:08):
That's that's the thing is, here's a guy who has
a couple of World Series Championships under his belt.

Speaker 14 (26:14):
HM.

Speaker 12 (26:14):
So you know, here's a guy who's a gamer in
the postseason, and you know, Mad Max the nickname, almost
pitched the perfect game against the Pirates if you were
called out one I remember being I remember being in
the Mad mex and Robinson and screaming at the TV
when Tabada and you know, I'm in a restaurant making
a scene and I'm.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Like, you got to be kidding me, you know. So
I saw an interview with him once.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
You know, he's got those crazy like husky eyes where
he has a brown eye and a blue eye, and
he's like, sometimes he comes out of the bullpen or
he comes out of the dugout and he's he's got
this demonic look on his face. And he said, when
he has that kind of look on his face, he's
pitching out of the brown eye, which was one of
the craziest sentences I've.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Ever heard anybody. Say, you don't want to be on
the wrong end of the brown.

Speaker 12 (27:02):
So that there is a guarantee for former Pirates to
be in the World Series, and I'm sure Pirates fans
love reveling and their misery in this part of it.
But the Dodgers have two former Pirates pitchers and starter
Tyler Glasnow and lefty reliever Anthony Bonda. The Blue Jays
have Isaiah Kinda Falfa who was spent the majority of
the season with the Pirates, and the Mariners have lefty

(27:23):
reliever Caleb Ferguson, who also was traded at the deadline.
So there will be former Pirates in the World Series
one way or the other on both.

Speaker 11 (27:31):
Sides, on both sides.

Speaker 12 (27:32):
So someone for Pirates fans the root for they can't
root for anybody else. Just to stick to the baseball theme,
the Pirates have a prospect who is just killing the
ball in a way that nobody else is in baseball
right now, Ezmerlin Valdez, twenty one year old outfielder, first baseman,
who's their number fifteen prospect. He's trying to convince the

(27:53):
Pirates to put him on their forty man roster and
protect him from the Rule five draft. And that has
to do with how many years of service since you signed,
especially for international players, this is the guy they signed
out of the Dominican for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
He's playing in the Arizona Fall League and has he
went three for four with a double, two homers, four
RBIs yesterday gives him seven homers and eight games in

(28:14):
the Arizona Fall LOP. So there's a little bit of
hope for the Pirates is that this is a guy
who had an incredible season and if not for Connor
Griffin would be in the running for their probably minor
league Player of the Year. But putting on a bit
of a show in the Arizona Fall League. So that
has Pirates fans, you know, getting them going right now.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Any chance that either or both of them see the
field next year.

Speaker 12 (28:34):
There's a possibility. He finished the season in Double A,
only played fifty one games there, so he's probably going
to get a season at least start the season in
Triple A. But you know, there's given what they did
with Rafael Flores where they brought him up and had him,
you know, catch him play first base, there's a chance
that you know that Valdez could make a push to

(28:54):
be a platoon first baseman. With Spencer Horwitz as a
right handed bat, and maybe play a little bit the outfield.
But the problem there is, if you're not going to
earn a starting job, you're not going to play every day.
And if you're not playing every day, that could hurt
your development. Yeah, and so a lot of times people say, oh,
this guy should come up. Well, if he's not a starter,
it's it's not working for his development. Yeah, I don't

(29:15):
want to give them a chance to play every day
because you know, the guys that are the starters are
going to want to be the ones that play on a
daily basis. So I don't expect him to make the
team out of spring training, but he could be, you know,
at twenty one years old, and I think he's like
six to two. He's listed at one eighty one. He
looks thicker than that, so he might be closer to
two hundred something. But there's a power bat in the system. Thankfully,

(29:37):
that's good news. All right, thanks keV Abby. What are
we talking about?

Speaker 8 (29:41):
At the top of the hour, We're going to talk
Pittsburgh Wall of Walk of Fame, A Wall of Fame,
why not walk a Fame? Halloween trends, and an Ohio
jag jumped the Elephant enclosure at the Zoo.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Plus we got Jerry Doulac coming up at eight forty five.
We're going to do a deep dive on that show.
Hey Otani performance over the weekend, and as keV said,
one for the ages, and we got Ben's up next.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
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Speaker 3 (30:23):
On DV Huff Puff and Spin, it is the DV
Morning Show, Randy and Mike have the day off, Bill Crawford,
Abby Krisner, our producer Jacob Brett, and Kevin Gorman from
the Trib hanging in studio all morning long. Welcoming our guest,
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Fellow Trip teammate, the Swiss Army Knife of Pittsburgh Sports Media,

(30:47):
Tim Benz joins us morning.

Speaker 16 (30:48):
Benzi, How you doing, by guys, how we join doing.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
All right, I guess now that we've all had some
time to fully digest the game that tomlin manifested Thursday,
Now where are we? Because anytime I tried to nap
over the weekend, I feel like Jamar Chase caught a
couple of quick slants in my dreams.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
It's like Freddy Krueger Nightmare and Elton Street right around. Now.

Speaker 16 (31:12):
Yeah, that's kind of the way I was too, And
I wrote about it today for the trip about how
I thought that was a sobering reality check for the
Steelers and where they really are, not only in terms
of their on field performance and things that need to
get better like fixing the defense, but also big picture wise.

(31:34):
You know, for as much as we wanted to talk
about how much better they were and how improved they
were from last year, I mean, there were four and
two with justin fields. So let's not get ahead of ourselves,
particularly with three good teams current playoff bracket teams on
the horizon.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, what is their biggest problem as they head towards
the game against Green Bay and into the rest of
the season. Is it scheme, is it personnel or is
it both?

Speaker 16 (32:04):
Now I think it's both and I think the biggest
thing is what they have in house just has to
do better, and there's less and less evidence that that's
going to be the case throughout the whole season. As
this season moves along, you know, we hoped after the
first couple of weeks that the hangover that existed from
twenty twenty four and how they were performing defensively was lifting.

(32:27):
You know, we were two gatorades and a handful of
advilt in starting to feel like, you know, the coconut
water had started to work and we were rehydrating again.
You know that that changed because I think oddly enough,
after everybody was hungover in Dublin or coming back to Dublin,
the defense looked like it had turn a corner, and

(32:48):
I think the momentum of that carried over against the
team right to be beaten coming back from Europe themselves
in the Cleveland Browns, and they overwhelmed Dylan Gabriel. Well,
they were making turnovers, they were hitting.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Guys hard, they were getting to the quarterback, and.

Speaker 16 (33:06):
It looked like we had talked about it looking in August,
and then it regressed back to what it looked like
in December or January of last year there was a
non existent team in terms of running the football on
the other side of the line of scrimmage. The Bengals
ran all over them. They didn't get to Joe Flacco
but twice once early once late in forty nine drop

(33:28):
backs to sack him. Just a lot started to look
familiar again defensively, and to me, that was very alarming
against a team that I think should have been beaten
on Thursday.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
The regression of the defense is a big thing that
we talked about Friday morning, Tim and when you were
breaking down Thursday night football in your Trib article, which
huge shout out, by the way, for working Ace Frehelia
in there.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
You get major bonus points for that. Well done.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
There's a deep cut reference too.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
I thought you went unmasked. How did you get in
the unmasked? I didn't even know that was in you.
But great job.

Speaker 8 (34:02):
But you know, talking about the defense is obviously going
to be a hot button issue, but the offense is
not without its fault in that loss.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Yeah, the offense.

Speaker 16 (34:12):
This is ninety percent a defensive problem. There were just
some things about the offense that contributed that. It was
just annoying, Like there are annoying elements of the offense,
like they tried to get tricky a couple of times
and it didn't work. You know, from the loss specifically,
you look at the flea flicker that went awry. You

(34:32):
look at the fact that you know they tried that
screen pass it didn't work.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
The push push didn't work. They had some costly penalties.

Speaker 16 (34:41):
I think the bigger picture stuff on offense though it
was more team construct like it was great that the
Titands put the stamp of the game that.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
We expected right. Friar Ruth was great. The other tight
ends all.

Speaker 16 (34:56):
Scored, but still highlighted is they don't have a number
two wide receiver. And when you see George Pickens play
the way that he played in Dallas yesterday and the
way that he has played since Cede Lamb went out,
now those two are ductailing really nicely as a wide
receiver tandem.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
It just underscores where.

Speaker 16 (35:15):
They have failed to backfill again for a second year
in a row after a departing wide receiver, and if
something should happen to DK Metcalf, they're going to be
really screwed, especially if they go through a swath of
games here where they're gonna have to outscore decent competition.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
I mean, I think that they forced the ball to DK,
maybe in the wrong spots, but I still think we
have to get him the ball more. I understand we
don't have a second wide receiver, Tim, but you know,
quick slants work on other teams too, not just the Steelers,
and it seemed like early in the season they got
him the ball quick and let him do what he
does best, which is run angry over people. And it

(35:53):
seems like they've gone away from that a little bit
and are more obsessed with the deep ball down the sideline.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
Part that is.

Speaker 16 (36:00):
Recognition of what Rogers has seen at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
And you know, like in that Jets game, two.

Speaker 16 (36:06):
Of those plays you're talking about were two of the
only three plays were sauce. Gardner wasn't on them, so
they just stepped back through the ball to.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Him and let him go. So that was smart. I
think that a couple of times they did that against Minnesota.
It was about Rogers reading.

Speaker 16 (36:19):
What was that the line of scrimmage and knowing where
to go with the ball, and he placed it perfectly
because he's good at that.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
So I don't mind so much trying to get him.

Speaker 16 (36:28):
The ball in fifty to fifty situations because they need
the chunk plays.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
It's very difficult.

Speaker 16 (36:33):
To be right eleven, twelve, thirteen plays in a row
all the time, and they were getting in that habit
of leaning into that. It's like, you know, one criticism
that I pointed out is did they get away from
the run maybe a little too much in the second
half after Jalen Warren is having a really good game
against the Bengals. And I kind of throw that out

(36:53):
there more from discussion than I do true criticism, because
the inner kind of football me, he just wants to
see them try to hit DK and use him as
a weapon when they can.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
And it can't have it both ways. You can't just.

Speaker 16 (37:07):
Lean into the ground game all the time and ignore
the six foot four wide.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
Receiver down the sideline with all those athletic gifts.

Speaker 16 (37:13):
You got to find a balance, and largely I thought
the offense did that Thursday. I'm just speaking more to
the big picture, like I said, point that they need
some more help to distribute the passing game, especially when
you look at Dallas, who has that perfectly right now
with the two wide receivers, backs that can catch the
ball if they need them to, and a tight ender
score twice.

Speaker 12 (37:34):
Tim Kevin Gorman, speaking to the tight ends, oneted to
ask you about what you thought of using Pat Fryarmuth
in the role that they did, which he kind of
stepped in almost as an extra wide receiver. But do
you think that that Friar Mooth starts to take on
a larger role in the offense now or do you
think he becomes a trade candidate And if there's trades

(37:55):
you'd like to see kind of which direction you'd like
to see the Steelers add category.

Speaker 16 (38:01):
Well, the first part of that, yes, I mean, like
this is what we talked about. If they're not going
to have a second wide receiver per se, especially if
Austin is hurt, if he's out of it, then it's
got to be the collective of the tight ends has
to be the second wide receiver. And they were that
against a vulnerable Bengals defense, and Friar Muth was chief

(38:22):
among them as the big play target at tight end.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
But he's a Bengals killer. I mean, really you can
associate with.

Speaker 16 (38:32):
This Kevin and covering the pirates like him against the
Bengals is like pool Holes against the Pirates. So the
way they talked about him though, like all the time
you hear Thomas say, well, he's his own killer, he's
his zone killer, he's his own killer. Well, they got
to find ways to get him the ball and man
and man situation too.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
They just have to if they're going to be structured
this way.

Speaker 16 (38:52):
So I tend to look at the tight Ends as
a group that replaces the concept of another two wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
It doesn't mean that they shouldn't look for one in
a trade.

Speaker 16 (39:02):
I wouldn't trade Friar Mooves for that though, because then
you're just swapping one problem for another.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
See what they do.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
They got green Bay here Sunday Night Football. That's Tim
Benz joining us like he does each and every Monday
year round.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Benz, thanks so much. We're gonna talk to you again
next week.

Speaker 16 (39:18):
I'm sure the Green Bay versus Aaron Rodgers stuff will
be totally subtled, not at all overcovered or overwrought to.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Oh yeah, no background noise. All right, good stuff, Tim.
We'll talk to you again next week.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Abby. What do we got next?

Speaker 8 (39:32):
We're gonna talk about the Pittsburgh Walk of fame, which
happens this morning.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
It's the DVE Morning Show. It's time for.

Speaker 17 (39:39):
The Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought to you by
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Speaker 4 (39:50):
Here's Tom Opferman.

Speaker 18 (39:51):
The Steelers fought a four and two on the season
thanks to the thirty three thirty one Thursday night football loss.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Of the hands of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 18 (39:57):
One silver lining though for the team and the loss,
was the production of the tight ends and the Steelers'
offense is passing game one hundred and forty one of
quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Two hundred and forty nine passing yards
went to tight ends against Cincy, and all four of
Rogers touchdown passes on the evening were to a tight end.
Johnny Smith and Darnell Washington both caught a touchdown a
piece from their quarterback, but it was Pat Fryarmuth who
led the way in the receiving department. He caught five

(40:18):
balls on six targets for a team leading one hundred
and eleven receiving yards, and he also had two touchdowns,
including a sixty eight yard touchdown catch that gave the
Steelers the lead late in the fourth quarter. Friarmuth had
been struggling not only to produce statistically but just to
see snaps on the field in recent weeks, so this
breakout performance of the season was a welcome development for
the team, even if it didn't ultimately result.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
In the victory.

Speaker 18 (40:38):
It's likely wide receiver Calvin Austin the third will be
back for the Packers on Sunday Night Football this week.
But even if that's the case, hopefully the tight ends
and Friarmuth in particular's production and usage starts to become
more of a trend.

Speaker 11 (40:50):
I'm tom op from him with the Steelers report.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
At FNB, we rewrote the rule v.

Speaker 11 (40:57):
Pittsburgh.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
They have leaned into the fact that as much you know,
as sonically it is not what you would say, is
dad rock that that's kind of what they are now
because dads grew up listening to Limp Biscuit. But he's
had several looks on stage where yes, he's he's great,
and he's got a beard, and actually Sam Rivers kind

(41:24):
of looked like this too. Like Sam Rivers doesn't look
or didn't look that different than from Kyle Gas from
Tenacious Tea, you know. But you know, Fred durstill gets
on stage sometimes, you know, grade and in overalls, you know,
and really does lean into Yeah. No, I'm an old

(41:45):
man now, dude, I don't care, and so I need
blue shoe for my biscuit.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
Randy Bellman and the DV Morning Show.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
Is that the dav Morning Show.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Randy Bauman is off today, same with Mike Pursuda.

Speaker 8 (42:03):
So we've got Kevin Gorman in for Sports Today, Bill Crawford,
I'm Abby Krisner.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Our producer is Jacob Breckt.

Speaker 8 (42:09):
Thanks to Tim Benz for joining us last hour to
talk Steelers. We're going to be talking with Jerry Dulac
later in the show to continue helping us process Thursday
Night football. But we've got to get ready for Sunday
as well as the Steelers will be taking on the Packers,
so we got to lick those wounds get ready. Of course,
we are your Steelers flagship here on DVE. Sunday's Countdown

(42:31):
to Kickoff with Tom Opferman and Matt Williamson begins at
four thirty pm, so you can start planning the tailgate Now.
Mike Pursuda, Bob Labriola and Jerry Dulac continue the pregame
coverage at six point twenty kickoff at eight twenty pm
with Rob King, Max Starks, and Missy Matthews.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
News.

Speaker 8 (42:48):
This hour is brought to you by Keystone Basement Systems,
Wet Basement, Keystone Basementsystems dot Com. Cloudy Skies today and
a high of fifty nine. Mancini's Bred yesterday revealed it's
Batman inspired bread in honor of actor Michael Keaton's appearance
for the launch of the Pittsburgh Walk of Fame, which

(43:09):
does happen today. The bread was displayed at Mancini's Strip
District location because of its proximity to the nearby terminal,
which is where that Walk of Fame is going to
be located, and that ribbon cutting ceremony is going to
be at ten thirty am. So if you don't have
a place to be get down there, you can go

(43:30):
ahead and walk over to the terminal.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Log off and get in the car, right.

Speaker 8 (43:34):
I guess why not, especially if you're downtown and you
you know, are going to be kind of close by,
because Michael Keaton is going to be there.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Because he's getting inducted today, and.

Speaker 8 (43:46):
I think he is the only person that is definitively
going to be there that is getting inducted, Like he's
going to be like the main celebrity that will absolutely
be there, well.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Because some of them have passed right like this.

Speaker 8 (43:58):
Yeah, so along with the first people to get Walk
of Fame stars, which again this is going to be
kind of like set up along that terminal walk, will
be noted jazz musician George Benson, pioneering journalist Nellie Bly,
industrialist and philanthropist Andrew Carnegie.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
This is why they can't make it. Conservation that's the bummer.

Speaker 8 (44:25):
Conservationist Rachel Carson, Pirates Hall of Famer and humanitarian Roberto Clemente,
Fred Rogers of Mister Rogers Neighborhood Fame, polio vaccine pioneer
doctor Jonah Sulk, Andy Warhol, influential artist and Pulzer Prize
winning playwright August Wilson.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Okay, so he's the only one.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
So that's yeah, that's the thing, that's why they booked him.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
I found sure that there's there's family members, Like I
think we heard that there were going to be family
members from Clemente there, yeah this morning.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
Did did you see Junior will be there?

Speaker 3 (45:01):
The manes bread art.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Bill bacon bread Yeah, into arts.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yes, it's not easy. It's not easy at all.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Remember the show nailed it?

Speaker 8 (45:17):
Yes, okay, yes, yeah, you try to make a bread.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
It's really hard.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
But I mean look if you look at it from afar,
like if I saw it without readers, I'd be like,
that is amazing.

Speaker 19 (45:32):
Yeah, right off, Yeah, in your sight, win a little
bitellas Batman.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
It's tremendous. Listen, No, it's definitely Batman. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
It measures four feet by four feet. It weighs two hundred.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Ponds, doesn't really Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Took him four hours to bake that.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Man, that is heavy ass bread art.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
That's a lot of carbs.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Yeah, that is a lot of carbs.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
And it's the.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I can't wait for that picture. I don't know is
it it's got to be edible but they painted it.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Yeah, but yeah, but you can. You can use food dice.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
It's it's edible paint.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
It's edible paint.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Okay, all right, I'm excited for this today.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
No, I am too.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
I just happy.

Speaker 8 (46:22):
I'm just happy when Yeah you like that, Kevin, Yeah,
it's not it's not easy.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Bread is unpredictable.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yeah, you can't just have bread do what you wanted
to do.

Speaker 8 (46:32):
No, everybody who survived uh their sour dough era of
COVID when everybody's like, I can make sour dough.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
I'm a trad wife.

Speaker 8 (46:44):
I can do this, and then learned how hard it
was to just make things on your own.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Shut up about the you know what the.

Speaker 12 (46:55):
Weird thing is. You know, like you go to a
graduation party. Now they have where they can screen your
face on to the cake and then someone has to
serve part of your face to someone to eat, and
it's like that they always give it to the grad
of course, you know, hey here eat your face.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Your face off tonight.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I mean they did that for us at the Guinness
factory exactly.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
That was part of it.

Speaker 8 (47:15):
So, like you know, they screen, they take they took
our photo and then they put it at the top
of the foam of our guinness and both Randy and
I did a cheers and then we.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Tried to, you know, do the split the g thing.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
But what we noticed is that the foam stayed and
our photo was still in the glass, and so it
was weird because the more we drank, our photo was
still intact and then the bottom of the glass, and
it was weird to watch us like descend.

Speaker 12 (47:46):
Photo stay intact, like though, like it looked exactly the
same or did it have a little bit of intoxication
to it.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
That's kind of sad.

Speaker 8 (47:56):
I'd be like, oh, man, Okay, we did not get
to this story last week because again we were talking
so much stealers on Friday. But a self proclaimed influencer
from Ohio is facing charges after police say he jumped
over a fence and into an elephant enclosure at the
Pittsburgh Zoo and Aquarium. So I don't know if you
guys probably like you saw the story bad.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
I saw the story, I saw the headline. I didn't
see any video from it.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
It's weird.

Speaker 8 (48:23):
Noah Thomas, nineteen years old, looks much older, is facing
several felony charges in connection with the alleged incident. This
took place on September the twenty first. The incident was
captured on video and posted on Instagram. Thomas referred to
himself as a professional gate jumper and used a laughing

(48:43):
emoji after saying he was almost elephant food, but according
to court paperwork, police said that Thomas's action caused extreme
risk of injury to himself, zoo staff, zoo patrons, and
the elephant itself, and that Thomas could have been killed
if the elephants had been able.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
To grab him.

Speaker 8 (49:04):
And by the way, the post got like over a
hundred likes.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
So totally worth it.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
That stinks.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Not a good influencer.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Wow, okay, so is he just getting started?

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, it's just such an olky jumper, I mean, not
very good at it. Yeah, that's that's dumb. I mean
there are things out there that are dumb. That is
that's one of the dumbest. Yeah, to go into those enclosures,
I mean some of those enclosures, it's almost like they
are there idiot proof, and they've had the idiot proof

(49:37):
more of that zoo as we've gone along here.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
But you know, I just remember going to that tiger.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Exhibit and there's a ravine in between where you are
and where they are, so it's not even possible in
a lot of those enclosures.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Did you see recently, I'm trying to remember which zoo
with this was that.

Speaker 8 (49:55):
I wish we would have pulled it up actually where
just very recently there was a gorilla that ran into
the glass.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah, cracked it like terrifying.

Speaker 8 (50:05):
Just don't get any closer than you've already been permitted.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
It's not smart.

Speaker 8 (50:10):
There's even the Columbus Zoo is a really nice zoo.
And the way that they even have their setup is
they have kind of natural enclosures, so you really don't
even feel like you're far away from the animals because.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
That's the one you can drive through, because isn't not
the one that Jack Hanna like that was his home zoo.

Speaker 8 (50:31):
Yes, And what's nice about it is they have again
when I say natural enclosures, they kind of have it
set up so that the barriers are what you know,
you almost as a patron can't perceive that there's barriers
between you and the animals because they have it set
up where there's like almost like dips and like rocks,
and the way that they are visually set up, you

(50:53):
kind of can't tell that the animal can't get past it.

Speaker 19 (50:56):
Right, theosure right, But I could see in a stupid
human trick brain where you go like I can get
over that, you can't.

Speaker 8 (51:06):
No, But in this influencer world where you know somebody
like this. Noah guy goes this is worth a hundred likes.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I mean they have the same kind of setup at Disney.
At the Animal Kingdom, they have that safari. Have you
ever done that?

Speaker 5 (51:20):
No, I have seen, though it looks amazing.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
It is that one is not like you're at a
zoo at all. You're just on the plane. And when
we were there, we're on one.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Of those huge like just like those ducky tour boats.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah, and a giraffe started running after the truck and
I was just like I had this moment where I'm like,
this all could be a total disaster. Like we're thinking, oh,
they're Disney, they have it all figured out, but they don't,
and things happen there.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
It's still an animal, Yeah, it still has free will
a very large animal.

Speaker 8 (51:58):
Have you ever been I don't know about you. I
have been to that summer safari before at the Zoo.
It's a yearly fundraiser that they do, and one of them.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Many years ago.

Speaker 8 (52:15):
Because I actually don't know if it's still something that's permitted.
You could walk up to the elephant enclosure and with
a staff member you could touch an elephant on the
trunk like they and I remember, like, you think you're
gonna be chill, yeah, and as soon as you do that,
you're just like, I'm.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Like, this is prehistoric.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Yeah, of course, and there's almost.

Speaker 8 (52:39):
A part of you that like feels like I just
shouldn't be allowed to do this.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, I've seen I've seen videos of people like feeding
the elephants, yeah, and feeding the different animals, and then
you know they either get frisky and like go down
a woman's cleavage or grab somebody's hair.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (52:57):
It's it's stunning in a way that like immediately almost
made me want to cry in a way because again,
there was something about it that felt a little spiritual
in nature, because you're just like, this is we're so
disconnected from nature, We're so disconnected from nature, but this

(53:18):
is also like a creature that's like beyond my comprehension.

Speaker 11 (53:22):
Ye, aspiring.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Yeah, it really was, It really was.

Speaker 8 (53:26):
But again the size of it as well the hubris
of this person to be like din take them, Like I.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Never had a great experience at the zoo.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Like I would take the girls and we would go
to the tiger exhibit and they'd either be laying down
or they weren't even there. I couldn't see them in
the grass was so high. I'm like, are they sleeping
behind a rock? Is this what this is?

Speaker 14 (53:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Because I'm I'm I love those animals. I want to
see them, but it's like, am I really seeing them?

Speaker 15 (53:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
They're in somebody's backyard and.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
They're Yeah, they're depressed. They're like, I I'm from the
you know, the desert or the jungle. I'm not from
Highland Park.

Speaker 8 (54:12):
They also know that the Steelers are oh and seven
and Thursday night football games under Tomlin.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
Against AFC Nor Thames. I don't know if you saw that.

Speaker 8 (54:25):
Last week, during an interview with Howard Stern, Jennifer Lopez
said that she never felt loved by any of her exes.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
I did see this.

Speaker 8 (54:37):
This is the kicker, because I'm sure she's very easy
to live with. She said it was their fault.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Oh, which is so she's processed it.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Well, yeah, it sounds like she's done the work.

Speaker 8 (54:47):
She said, quote what I learned is I learned that
it's not that I'm not lovable, it's that they're not capable.
It's that they don't have it in them. They need
to appreciate the little person inside of them. They need
to love them. Well, Ohani Noah, who was married to
j Lo from nineteen ninety seven to nineteen ninety eight,

(55:08):
did not take that lying down. So he was only
married to her for a year. But he spoke up
for himself this time. Yeah, and he decided to speak
up not only for himself but all of her other exes.
And he said, quote, let me just say this, stop
putting us down. Stop putting me down with your victim card.
The problem is not us, not me. The problem is

(55:32):
you. You are the one who couldn't keep it in your pants.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
You, Oh, have been loved a few times.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Damn.

Speaker 8 (55:44):
You've been married four times and you have had countless
relationships in between.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
You have had good.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
Relationships me, for example, I was good to you. I'm
too good of a man for you. So Noah said
that Jlo lied and cheated and chose fame and fortune
over him, and yet she begged him to stay when
he finally had enough because she didn't want bad press.
And he said to her, quote tell the truth for once.

(56:12):
Let people know that you are the problem. You should
be imparissed, and it's ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 12 (56:17):
Wow, it's interesting that the guy that I've never heard
of is the one who has the biggest platform to
talk about j Loo.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
It's crazy, but I think I could knock j Loo's
head off with this quote. And it's not that your
relationships are causing your problems, it's your problems are causing
your relationships. So what I would say to j Lo
is what's wrong with you is represented in the people

(56:45):
that you pick. So if you got a problem with
your partner, guess who picked them. Yeah, so there's something
in you that you're still not dealing with. And so
if you're saying I'm not loved it, if you love yourself,
love is everywhere. Well, I'm not trying to get too

(57:06):
deep this morning, but I'm just saying, but I'm just saying,
you know, j Lo, calm down, because like the guys
that she's picked are famous people that are.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Unavailable from Afar emotionally.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Like, it's not like, you know, you look at Jeter
or any of the guy or who was it a
rod that she.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Dated Ben Haflack twice.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yeah, you know, it's not like you're you're picking guys
that are like I can't believe he wasn't available for
you emotionally.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
They are a holes out loud like this Really from
a far we're seeing it, it's not a big mystery.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
But again, like the idea that those people also can
appear to elevate you.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Does kind of feed into what Noah's.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Saying here a little bit, because you're kind of going
with like where they benefit you from a status side,
and then overlooking all of the red flags where emotionally
they will be unavailable for you.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
I don't even know who that guy is. Like in
the timeline of j LO Partners.

Speaker 8 (58:19):
Where is he very very beginning of free knows job Okay,
free nos job jay.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Loo Okay, pook knows j Lo. All right, it's good
to know. Put that in my notes.

Speaker 8 (58:34):
In the.

Speaker 11 (58:37):
I like the advice to JLO is calm don calm, don.

Speaker 8 (58:42):
Sat calm donose guys today and I have fifty nine.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
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Speaker 3 (58:51):
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Speaker 4 (58:55):
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Speaker 3 (58:57):
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Speaker 2 (59:26):
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Speaker 3 (59:35):
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Speaker 12 (59:48):
Nobody would have thought that the pit Panthers would Pat
Paton Norduci would have the pit Panthers rulling to their
third consecutive win, while Penn State would be dropping its
fourth consecutive after firing Ja Franklin. But here we are
for the Panthers. Mason Heinschel went thirteen to twenty four
fro hundred and forty three yards threw a pick and
with sacks seven times, but had a thirty six yard

(01:00:09):
touchdown run. Pitt also got a sixty six yard punt
return for a touchdown by Kenny Johnson and three Trey
Bakowski field goals in a thirty to thirteen win at Syracuse.
The Panthers are now five and two, three and one
in the ACC. They held the Orange to two hundred
twelve yards on sixty four plays, which averaged out to
three point one to three per had three six three

(01:00:33):
and outs, So the defense really carried The Panthers.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Defense is legit.

Speaker 12 (01:00:36):
Yeah, the defense is legitis for sure. They play NC
State on Saturday. Penn State's defense is not legit. And
this was Here's an interesting one that there was a
battle between head coaches who were WPIL products. Uh Iowa
was Kirk Farence as a Upper Saint Clair graduate who
played for Joe Moore, legendary you know Pitt in Notre

(01:00:57):
Dame offensive line coach Uh he played Upper Saint Claire
Gateway or Penn State interim coach Terry Smith is a
Gateway alum. But Iowa pulls off a twenty five to
twenty four win in Iowa City Saturday, Penn State was
up twenty four nineteen with four fifty six left after
a Ryan Barker field goal, but South Dakota State transfer

(01:01:18):
Mark Ronowski broke a sixty seven yard run set up
Cayden Wedgends eight yard touchdown run for the go a
head score with three point fifty four left, and the
Nitney Lions dropped their fourth consecutive their freshman quarterback Ethan Grunkmeyer,
so not only did they fire their head coach, but
they lost a starting quarterback, tore Roular, for the remainder
of the season. Grunka Meyer went twenty three to thirty

(01:01:39):
nine foe hundred and ninety eight yards in a TD
but through two picks, including one that was returned to
the one yard line, and Kate tron Allen had one
hundred and forty five yards and two touchdowns for Penn State.
But it's their defense that's the problem for Penn State
more than anything. They've got a buy before playing at
Ohio State on November first, pitt also had a basketball
game yesterday, exhibition game. They beat Providence eighty one seventy four,

(01:02:02):
trailed by as many as twelve early, ended up leading
by double Ditches at halftime they had to fight off
a rally. DeMarco Minor fifteen points, Brandon Cummings twelve, Noius
andrew Sitis had eleven, cam Coren and Omari Witherspond ten each.
And then you have the Steelers play on Sunday Night football.

(01:02:23):
They've got the rematch for Aaron Rodgers facing his old
team when the Steelers play host to the Green Bay Packers.
The Steelers are four and two Packers for one and
one that one Sunday night at Akroshuer Stadium. Interesting note here,
Rogers spent eighteen years in Green Bay. I think the
first couple is the backup to Brett farv but four
time MVP, one time Super Bowl champion, spent two years

(01:02:45):
with the New York Jets, one of them injured with
the Achilles. Six and twelve record with the Jets. Brett
Farves sixteen years with Green Bay, three MVPs, won Super Bowl,
went one year with the Jets, went nine and seven
in his first year with Minnesota, very much like Rogers
first year with the Steelers. Far played against the Packers
on November one, two thousand and nine, went seventeen to

(01:03:08):
twenty eight for two hundred and forty four yards four
touchdowns in a thirty eight twenty six win. So if
we're comparing the parallels of their career, that could be
a good foreboding for Aaron Rodgers against his former team.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
I mean it's crazy to me to think that Brett
favre Leaves goes to the Jets, goes to the Vikings.
I mean, all of the news, all of the smoke
this offseason was that Aaron Rodgers first pick was to
go play for the Vikings. Yeah, so taking that same trajectory,
and it's wild to me to think, if you're a

(01:03:41):
Green Bay Packers fan that you had those two guys
for so many years and all you got out of
it was two rings, like really underperformed. I mean that
was the knock on Rogers for years, was just postseason
failures with the Packers.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I mean, those teams weren't.

Speaker 12 (01:04:01):
Really good, but to prove your point build when you
think about here's a very similar type of thing on
the hockey level that the Penguins went from having Mario Lemieux,
Mary Lemieux, two Sidney Crosby and for their careers they
have what five Stanley Cups, championships to show for it.

Speaker 11 (01:04:19):
Yep, and twice they won back to back and so
you know, the.

Speaker 12 (01:04:24):
Packers have two championships to show for the thirty four
years that they had two Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Right, and Crosby got there early. And you know, I mean,
to go to four and to win three. I know
a lot of people are frustrated with the Penguins and
their their current state and the rebuild and should they
have gotten rid of some of the old guys and
and all that stuff. But to see that kind of run,
I mean, fan bases just don't get to experience that.

Speaker 12 (01:04:50):
No, I mean, it's that's that's amazing, and it's the
amazing the Penguin's fortune that they would, just as Lemieu
is in the twilight of his career and retire fired
at that point, that they would get the good fortune
to not only have the number one pick and get Flurry,
and not only have the number two pick and get Milk.
And then they get the number one pick in the
lottery and get Sidney Crosby and then followed by Jordan Stall.

(01:05:11):
I mean, and have Crystal the Tang drafted and in
the in the in between all of that the Penguin's
fortunes were amazing, and you know, that's it's It's interesting
to me that when the Penguins won the Cup in Nashville,
I was on the ice and asked Mary. It was
one of the group of people that asked Mary Lemieu
about are the Is this Penguins team now a dynasty?

(01:05:33):
And he was very quick to say no. But what
they did in the salary cap era.

Speaker 11 (01:05:37):
Is pretty amazing. It's pretty it's pretty amazing that they
did were able to do that in a salary cap era.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
What do you think about this game on Sunday night,
because I you know, we've been sitting here talking about
it all morning. I mean, Abby and I started the
show sort of wondering what this team is. I mean,
it's it seems like they they've definitely got some problems.
They they started the season kind of where they left off,
not being able to stop the run.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Figured that out for three games and then it's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
It's ugly head again in the last two and here
comes Josh Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor, two of the best
running football teams in the NFL, are coming to town.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
In the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 12 (01:06:18):
I think you captured it right there, Bill, with the
sense of the Steelers have been a team that when
they are Super Bowl caliber champion team, it's with the
number one defense in the NFL. And to have that
type of a defense, you can't just have the pass rush.
You have to be willing to willing and able to
stop the run. And that's where you know they drafted
Derek Carmon tried to address it, but I feel like

(01:06:39):
that's where the Steelers need to be better is stopping
the run. And you know, if you're not going to
stop the run, I don't know how you're gonna be
able to pressure the passer. But they have to be
able to do if that's if that's your mo. If
you're a pass rushing team, you need better performances out
of a TJ. Watt, Cam Heyward. You know, you need
those guys to show up in a game where they

(01:07:00):
didn't in Cincinnati. I think what they had something like
two tackles between them.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
Or two they split split the spoils of that one.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Yeah, TJ had half a sack early, he had a
sack late, but in between there was there was not
much pressure on Flacco at all, and when an old
guy is dropping back forty nine times, you got to
make him feel you. You got to you gotta hurt him,
you got to get him off his rhythm. And they
just never seem to be able to do that.

Speaker 12 (01:07:27):
No, And that's that's what this this Steelers defense. I
think Brett Farv is the ultimate ultimate game manager at
the stage of his career, but you have to have
a defense that can You.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Mean, Aaron Rodgers, I say that far far Yeah, I
mean they are a completely different game.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
But yeah, yeah, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers
at forty one years old.

Speaker 12 (01:07:46):
You're not expecting him to carry the team, but he's
going to be able to pick a team apart if
you give him some time in the pocket.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (01:07:52):
He's not going to handle pressure very well.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
I mean they seem to be doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
That's the you know, the silver lining to come out
of Thursday night is the offense looks like it's I mean,
they're they're running the ball efficiently, they're getting the ball
to all their tight ends that they have. I mean,
you know, they're getting in the end zone, they're scoring points.
It's just they've got to be more efficient at possessing
the ball and timely drives that. You know that that

(01:08:16):
that interception that he threw to DK deep there that
was on a first down. You know, is that a
necessary shot to take? Like I'm I'm I've hated how
conservative the offense has been at times, but there's also
context of a game where the Bengals just scored. Maybe
try to put a drive together, try to keep Flacco

(01:08:37):
on the sideline for a little while, let him cramp up.

Speaker 12 (01:08:40):
Yeah, they have to stop the run. I mean that
has been a problem for the Steelers. It was a
big problem for them last year, especially in the playoffs,
especially against the Ravens. And you know, you can't be
a team that has Super Bowl aspirations and can't stop
the other team from controlling the clock.

Speaker 11 (01:08:56):
As simple as that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Good stuff, keV. We'll talk to you again next hour, Abby,
What are we talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:09:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Still got Jerry d coming up at eight forty five
and up next we're gonna dig into the show. Hey o, Tawny,
Show of all show Hayes next on the DV Morning Show.

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Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
It is the DV Morning Show Radio might have the
day off, so proffered Abby Krisner, our producer Jacob Brett,
and Kevin Gorman doing sports for us this morning and
hanging in studio, and Kevin, I'm glad you're in here
because I wanted to get you in on this conversation
since you're.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
A baseball guy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
You know, in the in the age of extreme language
and hyperbole, it's easy to say things are the greatest
thing we've ever seen, or this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Player is the goat.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
But we just saw pitchers strike out ten batters and
hit three homers in a postseason series clinching game. It
seems like this performance is hyperbole proof. How do you
contextualize what we just saw this weekend from Shoho Tani.

Speaker 12 (01:10:27):
The only way to take it down a notch it
is to make the argument that it wasn't the greatest
single performance in sports history. I don't think anybody will
argue that it was the single greatest performance in baseball
playoff history.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Yeah, it's just a.

Speaker 12 (01:10:43):
Matter whether you put it into a greater context than
anybody ever had at Maadmar Johnson had forty two points
filling in, you know, playing center in game I think
it was games six or seven in the NBA Finals.
I mean, I've seen that argument of what Matt Johnson
did when Kareem abdul Jabbar was injured and Magic played

(01:11:03):
center as a point you know, I think he was
a rookie point guard at six foot eight. I mean,
that's that's the type of context we're talking, is that
is this the greatest individual performance in sports history, not
just baseball history.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
I mean, it's certainly the best one inning that anybody
has ever had.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
I know, you've got some stats over.

Speaker 12 (01:11:22):
There, so many first it's kind of mind boggling to
Sarah Langs from MLB dot Com, who does a lot
of great statistical thing like she finds the history she's
a reporter editor from MMB dot com, also battling a
courageously battling als.

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
O.

Speaker 12 (01:11:40):
Tawni is the first pitcher to hit a leadoff home
run in any game, regular season or.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Postseason as a pitcher.

Speaker 12 (01:11:48):
As a pitcher, yeah, first picture with multiple homers in
a postseason game. First player to strike out five batters
in a game where he hit three home runs, and
he had ten k and six plus scoreless innings, So
he also had a quality start here any game, regular
or postseason. It was the second time in his career

(01:12:10):
that he's had at least ten strikeouts and multiple homers.
He's the only player in Major league history.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
To do it twice.

Speaker 11 (01:12:16):
Baby Ruth include wow.

Speaker 12 (01:12:21):
First player to strike out a batter and hit a
home run in the first inning of a postseason game.
So he had to strike out and hit a homer.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
You know, coming into that game, nobody knew how he's
gonna be. He isn't pitched in a.

Speaker 11 (01:12:35):
Thirteen days second Tommy John surgery that he came back from,
and to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Come out like that to start the games striking out
the side and then to lead off and hit a
home run.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
The first twenty minutes of that game. Nobody who was
there or watched that will ever forget that.

Speaker 12 (01:12:54):
Yeah, And so he's the first player to strike out
a batter and hit a home run the first inning,
first player to strike out three batters had a home
run in the same inning in the postseason. So I
think he had two k's in the fourth and hit
his second home run in the fourth inning. So's he's
had multiple strikeouts and a home run and one inning
multiple times in one game. First player with multiple career

(01:13:16):
postseason innings multiple strikeouts and home run. The three home
runs in a postseason game he pitched, or the most
of any player in a career and games pitched, and
two players had two Bob Gibson and Dave McNally the third.
It was the thirteenth three home run game in postseason history.

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So he's got one of thirteen. And this isn't a
game which he pitched. But here's the part that where
this is the blow me away stuff. All of those
first are enough to say, wow, that's amazing. Then you
get into he's the first player with multiple home runs
at least one hundred and sixteen miles per hour exit velocity.

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So all three had at least one sixteen, so we're
talking O'Neil Cruz type of bombs lasers in the stat
cast era as they like to say, which is only
since twenty fifteen. His home runs had EXI velocities of
one sixteen point five, one sixteen point nine, and I
think one thirteen point six.

Speaker 11 (01:14:18):
So we had two of one sixteen plus.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
And they traveled thirteen one hundred and forty two feet,
maybe because one of them left the park.

Speaker 11 (01:14:26):
Yes, we're not even sure how far that way.

Speaker 12 (01:14:28):
Two of those home runs he hit while he was pitching,
so like most pitchers go into the dugout or go
into the clubhouse and rest, and this is a guy
who had to go up and take at bats during
his time pitching, which doesn't happen in baseball anymore. It's
not to say it never happened, but it doesn't happen anymore.
It was the eighth home run of at least four
hundred and fifty feet at Dodger Stadium, had he had

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one that was measured at four sixty nine, but as
you said, it exited the ballpark, so we don't really
know just how far it travel That's an estimate.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Hit something before it stopped. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's incredible. Abby,
you have some of the sound. Let's stop teasing people.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
You just kind of have to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
In Game four of the LCS said, there goes O
Toddy show.

Speaker 17 (01:15:10):
Hey, lighting up the highlights already.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Oh my goodness, asked the bomb that left the park?

Speaker 15 (01:15:19):
Toddy?

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Oh, oh, Dinny Toddy has done it again.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
He is only the seventh player in history to hit
it out of the park.

Speaker 12 (01:15:33):
And unbelieva, what a perfect name. You know, you can
got the show, Hey, the show and then the oh Toddy.
You know, to have to have a player like him
in this day and age of specialization, to have a
guy who's a two way player and arguably went healthy.

Speaker 11 (01:15:52):
He's as good as any pitcher in baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Yeah. They asked Freddy Freeman about it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
And what I loved about watching Freddie Freeman, you know,
last year years World Series MVP watch O Tawni, is
that his brain was broken.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
He couldn't process even what he was watching.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
And he said, I don't know if he's the greatest
player to ever live, but I can definitely say in
my lifetime certainly like we're we're never going to see
this again, because these players are once in a million years,
you know, like that, it's not even once in a generation.
I mean, no, this is once in one hundred and
twenty five years. I mean all of the numbers that

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I'm seeing are since nineteen hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:16:32):
And the other part of it is Baby Bruce played
during the era of segregation, so we don't know he
played barnstorming. He played against the Negro leagues, but they
didn't play in the major leagues at the time, so
we willn't know how it compares. I mean, shohe Atani's
playing at a time when all of the greatest players
in baseball are playing in the major gangs.

Speaker 11 (01:16:51):
I mean, that's highest.

Speaker 12 (01:16:53):
And not only has he done it in the major leagues,
but he did it in the World Baseball class like
when he struck out Mike Trout, who considered the best
player in baseball at the time, struck out Mike Trout
to win the WBC for Japan against So I mean,
it's what we're watching here is absolutely incredible. Here's the
last part of it is two of his three strikeouts
in the first came on pitches of one hundred miles

(01:17:15):
an hour faster. He threw the fastest the eleven fastest
pitches of the game, had the three hardest hits of
the game, hardest hit balls of the game, and the
three longest distances of the game, and the most swing
and misses of the game. This is a game dominated
in every facet. It's absolutely amazing to watch and to

(01:17:39):
take the series that ulous the clinches sweep over. The
team had the best record in baseball, and I'm gonna unabashed.
I love Mookie Bets. I love watching Mookie Bets, and
I I would say, you know, Mookie Bets could be
the best player in baseball. He's not even the best
player on his own team. And there's an argument you
can make that Freddy Freeman could be. I mean, there
are there three MVP which makes it all that much

(01:18:01):
more incredible. What you know, Paul Skiings and Bubba Chandler
have done against those three in their career. Even krmen Maginski, Uh,
you know, and I think Rack Sashcraft, I think those
guys have all had success facing one, two, three in
the order of three former MVPs. And I had a
long conversation with Carmen Magensky in particular about what's that

(01:18:24):
like as a young pitcher to face to face those guys.
So that's what to say, because it's got to be terrifying. Well, no,
I mean you're never really out of danger. That that's
that's one hundred percent true. The terrifying part. These guys
all believe they're the best in the world at what
they do, and to some degree they are. I mean
they're they're the best in the world. They may not
be he may not be the best pitcher in baseball,

(01:18:45):
but he's a major league pitcher, so that makes him, you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
Know, better than most people that have ever picked up
a baseball.

Speaker 12 (01:18:50):
Yeah, you think of the best player you ever played
with or against and how far did they go and
realize that you don't know many that were capable of
making it of the miners, let alone the majors. Yeah,
and you know you think about that part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Oh, yeah, No.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I used to think about that all the time because
I used to work out a trees haul up at
Pitt and because my dad worked at Pitt, so I
had a free pass to get into that gym, and
I would just watch some of the guys playing basketball
in there, and these guys were jumping out of the
gym absolutely no chance at making it in the NBA.
And then somebody like Lebron comes along or Kobe or

(01:19:26):
one of these players doesn't even go to college and
is playing with grown men and dominating them. I mean,
that's the level athlete we're talking about.

Speaker 12 (01:19:34):
Yeah, I remember, I remember playing pickup basketball with a
guy who played at CCAC. His named Dereck Myers. He
played at CCAC South, and then he goes scholarship to
Florida State and this guy was awesome. He was only
like five ten or five eleven, but he was fantastic
and playing against him a lot and think of wow,
this this is what it takes to be a D
one basketball player, this guy. And then he went and

(01:19:55):
played Florida State against UNLV and against Greg Anthony, and
Greg Anthony just wiped the floor with him.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
And I thought, how good is Greg Anthony?

Speaker 12 (01:20:03):
Yeah, the NBA and you saw guys that, you know,
Greg Anthony was a great NBA player, but there were
guys that could wipe the floor with him, and you're
thinking like, oh my gosh, like yeah, you know it.

Speaker 11 (01:20:13):
It makes you realize just how very, very mortal you are.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Oh yeah, when I when I was a senior at
alderd Ice, the best player I ever saw live and
in person was Rod Rutherford. Lightning Rod for Perry. We
played Perry, they beat us fifty six nothing. He accounted
for all fifty six points. He was the quarterback and
he was a safety. He had you know, three pick sixes,
multiple touchdowns, ran for touchdowns, like just unstoppable. Never really

(01:20:40):
found a place at the NFL level. And I'm like,
this is no, but I think he was.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
I think he was.

Speaker 12 (01:20:46):
I think he's on the Steelers Super Bowl team and
got a ring, but I don't think he played really.
I think he was like the string quarterback on I'm
not one hundred percent on that, but I mean, I
know he was with the Steelers. He spent some time
with the Steeers and some time with the Panthers. But
I mean he was a first team All Big East
quarterback and he obviously was throwing to Larry Fitzgerald, which helped.
But I mean, you know, Rod Rutford was a special,

(01:21:06):
special flower.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:21:08):
I mean I went to high school with Brian Gelsizer,
who played linebacker at Penn State and was also drafted
by the Kansas City Royals, and I played basketball with him,
which was his third best sport, and one he didn't
pick up the ball because he was playing baseball in
the summer and football in the fall and didn't pick
up a basketball, and they just start draining threes, and
I'm just like, my god, this guy's just an unbelievable athlete.
And he heard his knee. He got drafted in the
NFL and hurt his knee and never made it in

(01:21:30):
the NFL. And it's like, he's the best athlete I
was ever around, and he was phenomenal. We all thought
he was going to play professionally. And I went to
high school with some people who did play. Damon Denson
played in the NFL, and I went to high school
with some professional athletes. But it's a different type when
you see guys that are not only you know, good
enough to beat professional athletes, but then you talk about

(01:21:50):
the best of the best, and shohe A. Tawny's clearly
one of one in today's world, and he globalized the game.
And here's the thing that I read this weekend that
really blows your mind, is you know that he's got
I think sixty eight million dollars of his seventy million
dollars salary on annual basis, I think he is a
seven year a ten year, seven hundred million dollar contract

(01:22:12):
and sixty eight million of iter per year is the third.

Speaker 11 (01:22:16):
That's seven hundred million dollars in his first year with
the Dodgers.

Speaker 12 (01:22:20):
They made that in ticket sales, merchandising, everything, They've already
made their money back.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
That's he's already worth it.

Speaker 12 (01:22:27):
That's where I think that's the amazing frustration of Pirates
fans is that is that they have a guy in
Paul Schemes who can compete with Shoe A Tony.

Speaker 11 (01:22:36):
He struck him out the first time he faced him
as a rookie.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Took him deep the next time, but still like, but
that's a great battle.

Speaker 11 (01:22:43):
Yeah, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 12 (01:22:44):
You know Bubba Chandler under his breath, you know, Bubba
Chandler gave up a monster shot to show hey, and
and was just like he said, he turned around and
was like an awe. I'm just like, wow, okay, this
is what it's all about. But after the game, he
was like, he'll never hit another home run off me,
you know, like and and I you know, kind of
Joliays said, that's because he'll never see another pitch that's.

Speaker 5 (01:23:04):
A streng zone from me right now.

Speaker 12 (01:23:05):
He's like, your damn rights, no chance he's ever going
to get one that's in his wheelhouse. So but but
that's I mean, that's the competitive level that you get
from those type of guys. And I think if I
can extend any hope to the Pirates, it's that you
look at the Brewers that had the best record in
baseball and a team that was good top to bottom

(01:23:25):
in their owner one through nine, everybody could hit. They
didn't have the starting pitching to face a team like
the Dodgers and the Pirates do. They don't have the hitting.
That's why they're a ninety one lost team. But if
they can add the back, you think about a team
that can throw out there next year. If they were
to be a postseason team and everybody stays healthy and

(01:23:46):
everything goes well, they have Schemes and Chandler and Keller
and Jones and and uh Oviedo and a bunch of
young arms in the bullpen. If they're not in the rotation,
you have all of a sudden, Majinski and Ashcraft and
and and Burrow. You start thinking about the young pitching
the Pirates have. They have the pitching to compete in
the postseason. They just need to get the bats to

(01:24:08):
get them there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Well, show, Hey is going to be watching the game
to night to see who they're gonna face in the
World Series.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
I'm looking forward to it. That game is at what
time tonight? Eight oh eight? Eight oh eight?

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
All right, thanks Kevin, I'm glad we had you in
for that conversation. Abby, what are we talking about the
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Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
I never had a great experience at the zoo.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Like I would take the girls and we would go
to the tiger exhibit and they'd either be laying down
or they weren't even there.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
I couldn't see them in the grass was so high.
I'm like, are they sleeping behind a rock?

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
This is this?

Speaker 6 (01:25:44):
What this is? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Because I'm I'm I love those animals. I want to
see them, but it's like, am I really seeing them?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
They're in somebody's backyard and they're miserables. Yeah, they're depressed.
They're like I I'm from the you know, the desert
or the jungle. I'm not from Highland Park.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
They also know that the Steelers are oh and seven and.

Speaker 8 (01:26:10):
Thursday night football games under Tomlin against AFC, Nor.

Speaker 7 (01:26:13):
Thinks Brandy Bellman and the DV morning Show's.

Speaker 8 (01:26:19):
Av Morning Show, and listen, we're gonna be okay, Like
we're at at some point we're gonna get over the
Thursday night football loss and we're still in like, you know,
the the fire Tomlin vortex, like you know where we
go through this cycle almost every year, because like, isn't
this the part of the cycle where like now we
go on like at least a four to six game

(01:26:41):
like Tayor and then it's just good enough.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure which timeline we're on.
I'm not sure if we're not on, like the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
We lose again, oh right, worse again, and then everybody's
out on the season, and then somehow they pull it together.

Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
Yeah, that's right, that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Surprisingly beat in the Indian List Colts by shutting down
Jonathan Taylor in the best run game in the NFL. Yeah,
and get us all back on board. And then Joe
Flacco I believe, comes to town again. I mean at
some point in there.

Speaker 8 (01:27:11):
There's yeah, I get some Mamay Indie Chargers, Yes, but
then yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
But then Black's Blaco.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Flaco's Baco, and it would be great if we could
put that guy on his backo and make it miserable
for him. But even even the Browns, like this weekend,
watching the Browns do what they did to Miami pissed
me off. And I don't know why exactly, but they
were running wild on Miami, and Miami looks like they
just quit all together.

Speaker 8 (01:27:39):
Miami's got some CT issues going on like everywhere, like
so I don't even know what to make of Miami.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Most of what I saw in Miami was like a
lot of the postgame stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Oh, I mean that coach needs to be fired, like yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
He's there is an argument for too much.

Speaker 8 (01:27:59):
We like at some point, I didn't think, like to me,
I'm all about the legalization.

Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
At this point, it's just like, just tell me exactly
what it is you need. I think there. I think
in Miami, make it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Illegal just for him, nobody else.

Speaker 8 (01:28:16):
There's too much, And that seems to be kind of
extending to even like to Touah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
It's just it's no good, like even understand what they
have to be thinking as players with this goofball on
the sidelines, Like he has got as hoodie up, his
glasses are fogged. He can't put a sentence together. If
you're playing for him, what are you even thinking at
this point?

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
The thing that sucks for you know anybody.

Speaker 8 (01:28:45):
I mean, like, listen, we don't have a stake in
the game unless you know, for some reason you're a
Dolphins fan or whatever. But Mike McDaniel, like I liked
him so much at the beginning, Yeah, there was somebody
who's quirky.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
I thought he was just weird enough to be a genius.

Speaker 8 (01:28:58):
And he was, and he's young enough to that you're
kind of like, man like, I feel some fire in him.
I kind of like feel like he's kind of setting
this new like a new class a coach and it's ALLBS.
It's ALLBS. This dude just wakes and bakes and just
says whatever comes out first, and it's ALLBS.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
I think he could still be.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
A really good coordinator, Kevin. I don't know what your
feelings are about him, but as a head coach, as
the leader of the team, I mean, one thing you
cannot argue with about with Mike Tomlin is that he
is a leader of men. Now we can talk about
schemes and time management and game plans and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
All that stuff, and I think all those criticisms.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Are legit, but there's no question that everybody knows who
the leader is and are willing to follow him.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:29:50):
I think there's a body language issue with him. And
it's not just Mike McDaniel's body language, but how the
players react to him. Right, he doesn't seem to be
a level of respect. It doesn't seem to be the
level of respect from him towards some of his other
players too. I mean I've saw, you know, he had
a quarterback come off the field and just kind of
like looked at his play sheet and ignored the quarterback yours. Yeah, yeah,

(01:30:10):
And it was just like you see things like that
and you think like, wow, there's there's something missing there.
And then you know when you talk to guys, And
this happened with Derek Shelton, and I remember staying up
late that Saturday night asking after asking Derek Shelton, you
know what's wrong and how do you fix it? And
he said, I don't know. When when the coach no
longer has an answer. Yeah, when they no longer have

(01:30:31):
a solution to offer, you know that they're fried. I'll
be stunned if Mike McDaniel still has a job come Tuesday. Like,
that's that's we should be at the point where now
where after a loss, like you lose thirty one six
to the Browns, So the Browns who.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
Haven't cracked scoring twenty all season long?

Speaker 12 (01:30:49):
Yeah, and then you have two is they've made a
major investment in Tua and he was twelve to twenty
three hundred yards, three interceptions, twenty four point one passer rating,
three picks. That you're not getting the performance out of
the quarterback. You might have to make a coaching change
just to save your quarterback who you invested a lot
of money in.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
And you know what's crazy, Kevi is that's why they
brought him there, Like because Brian Flores, before he showed
up for the Pittsburgh Steelers, was supposedly running things in
a way that was too militant for Tua, and Tua
had lost all his confidence and this you know, genius
offensive coordinator was going to come fix him. And he

(01:31:29):
put this highlight package together, detailing and highlighting how awesome
he thought Tua was and at the beginning it seemed
like the perfect marriage. But if you don't, if you're
not getting the performance out of him anymore, is that
there's no reason for him.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
To be there.

Speaker 12 (01:31:45):
No, And that's why I think you see the Steelers
to kind of get back to your first point when
you talk about leader of men, the Steelers don't want
to change the man at the top because they believe
he has the respect of not just the locker room,
but the entire organization that Mike Tomlin and really all
of football. When you see Mike Tomlin interact at the
Senior Bowl or interact at the Pro Bowl, he has

(01:32:07):
the respect of players. Players respect and they like him.
They want to play for him. So that's why they
change coordinators. That's why they've changed offensive and defensive coordinators.
Is okay, let's bring in a fresh perspective for the
players for in terms of play calling and time management
and things like that that they can control without necessarily
changing the entire organization. Because when you're changing the head coach,

(01:32:27):
that's the face of the organization. And yeah, I'm kind
of still stunned that Mike McDaniel has a head coaching
job in the NFL, and Mike McCarthy does not.

Speaker 8 (01:32:36):
Yeah, well he seems to be shotgunning things into Tua's
mouth or something.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
But regardless, we'll get to that maybe later in sports.

Speaker 8 (01:32:43):
But the other thing that you know, you said about Tomlin,
and this might be something that we throw towards Jerry
Doulac a little later on this hour. We've had this
conversation on the show so many times about the head
coach and the quarterback and kind of who bears the
brunt of like where is the talent?

Speaker 5 (01:32:58):
Where does the talent lie?

Speaker 8 (01:32:59):
And how about Mike Tomlin being this leader of men
when we look at kind of what has happened in
the wake of people leaving Mike Tomlin's leadership, Russell Wilson,
Justin Field's getting benched.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
This weekend, we saw Kenny Pickett go in for a.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Series and just Booth immediately fumble. I mean I think
he completed two passes for eight yards. Yeah, and they
got blanked by the Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Right, So there's so there seems to be a little
bit of insight there, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Dickens maybe being the exception, and I don't think anybody
didn't think that that would happen in Dallas like that
it wasn't ever going to happen here.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Well, we talked about that with with Glass.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Now, you know, there's some players where it's like he's
such a head case that if you don't have a
franchise level quarterback that's just going to throw him the
ball and get him the ball continuously, he's going to
tank and he's not going to be a good teammate,
and he's going to be throwing stuff on the sidelines.
And so we're having a great season, Ceedee Lamb gets hurt,

(01:34:02):
George Pickens, you know, feasts in his absence. Then CD
comes back and it looks like they wanted it to
look like they thought it could look and great until
it isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Like he is a to me, a finishing piece, not
a piece you build around.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
And I understand that now we need that guy back
here and we're looking for a second receiver. But I
just don't think that that was a fit here. I
don't think he ever would have got the numbers he's
doing in Dallas here.

Speaker 6 (01:34:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:34:32):
I'm curious to see. I never I never bought into
the idea that the Steers would have Aaron Rodgers throwing
to DK Metcalf and George Pickens. I always thought Metcalf
was brought in sign to the contract and that men
Pickens was on his way out. Yeah, Boy, would have
been nice to see how if he would have played
off Dk Metcalf the way that he's playing off CD Lamb.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
Oh my god, poison.

Speaker 12 (01:34:55):
Yeah, and having Dak Prescott throwing ut to him, if
he would have had Aaron Rodgers, if Rodgers could have
picked teams part with those two is his primary wideouts.
That would be interesting to see just in theory. But
I agree with everything you said. I felt like to
some degree that George Pickens was a bit of a
cancer for the Steelers by his actions, by his tantrums,
by his you know not you can't count on you.

(01:35:18):
You're not sure what you're getting day to day from
him game to game, And I think the Steelers couldn't
invest in that, they couldn't make a long term investment
and a guy when they didn't know what they were
going to get.

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
You got to trust that they know something that you don't.

Speaker 8 (01:35:30):
Cannot trust everyone, Kevin, And that's going to lead off
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show up when they're lying. So here are the top
ten signs that somebody might be lying to you. Number
one is I direction. Apparently, if a person looks to

(01:36:10):
the right a lot, it means that they're making stuff up.
If they're looking to their left, they're trying to remember.

Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
Weird.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
Is that just accessing a different part of your brain exactly?

Speaker 8 (01:36:26):
It doesn't go into a deep explanation on this particular article,
but I do remember that from the past, just like
somewhere in my you know, somewhere in my brain. I
know that in my psych training that there was different
parts of your brain that you're accessing. So yes, when
you're looking right, you're trying to make something up. When

(01:36:46):
you're looking to the left, you're trying to remember something. Okay,
long pauses, which this triggers me a little bit liars
may stall or repeat your question to buy time. The
reason why this triggers me is I stall because I
am trying deeply not to say something stupid or be misunderstood.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Yeah. Sure, and my dad does that too. I do
that a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
Yeah, I always.

Speaker 8 (01:37:10):
Whenever I am doing an impression of my father, I
always take a very deep pause. But my dad is
very rarely misunderstood, and I hold him to a very
very high, you know standard, and he's just, you know,
he's my hero in so many ways. But like he
never minches his words, but he's always very very clear,

(01:37:30):
but he takes long lung pauses.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
I remember my dad or something like a Steeler fan
who remembers the seventies teams very well, saying that about Franco,
because like every question that Franco has asked, he would
sort of pause and have a very slow answer, and
everybody was like, well, what's going on with this guy?

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
But it just turned out that he was trying to
be thoughtful exactly. I thought that that's what you know,
slow response time meant.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
I think either that or you know you're an idiot,
But most often it's it's you're trying to come up
with a thoughtful response.

Speaker 8 (01:38:05):
I think that because on the flip side of that,
my mom will tell you that she talks out of
her neck and she will say the wrong thing all
the time. She's like Queen of malapropes, and soci'll say
things like, you know, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
The school of four knocks.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
What do you want me to do? Exactly?

Speaker 8 (01:38:25):
Number three voice changes Listen for higher pitched or breathless tone.
Usually this is caused by stress or the steelers driving
you crazy. Number four is fidgeting. Unfortunately, this means all
elementary school children are liars.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
Yeah, I think you kind of have to.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
All kids nowadays are just sort of uncomfortable, and they
have things and toys for their discomfort. Like they actually
have fidget spinners and all those little weird things you
can pop, like with the little bubbles and stuff, and
so there's there's tools for that now.

Speaker 8 (01:39:09):
Which I guess show me an adult that doesn't see
their kids fidget spinners and want them.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
Oh, I play with them all the time. I'm the
only one that still plays with those things.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
Yeah, constantly.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
I feel like our generation only had the stress balls.

Speaker 11 (01:39:23):
Yeah, well, get Elmer's glue. You could just squeeze a.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Little bit, peel it off your fingers.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
Sounds right.

Speaker 8 (01:39:32):
Yeah, I don't know how much I'm agreeing with this list.
If we're being honest, I feel like there's probably a
better ones. Maybe we can add to it, But the
poker face comes it at number five. Some people remain
completely still while they're lying to avoid giving anything away.
I feel like when I go back in my memory bank,
the people that have lied to me have been the

(01:39:53):
ones that are like completely frozen.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
TJ watteyes at me. Those are the ones that I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Like, you piece, cold, dark, distant.

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
Oh yeah, exactly six? Is I dancing?

Speaker 8 (01:40:08):
If their eyes are all over the room, it can
be a sign of panic or drug abuse. Yeah, that
sounds like you're tweaking. Sounds like you got a Mike
McDonald's going.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
On whatever that uh that Jets coach Adam Gasee took
before his first press.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
Conference over compensation. And this makes sense to me.

Speaker 8 (01:40:28):
A liar might puff up or act overly confident when
they're trying to get away with something.

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
Mm hmm makes sense, which goes along with number ten.
If I jump ahead here, too many filler words.

Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
If every sentence starts with M or you know, or
basically they might be lying, but I would say that
and over compensation when somebody adds like too many details
that you didn't really need.

Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
Yeah, right, that's when you're kind of like, why, why
is that important?

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
What are you?

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
What are you doing here? What's up? What picture are
you painting?

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
Bob Roth got a happy little accident.

Speaker 8 (01:41:02):
That barrier rituals comes in at number eight, which is
things like crossed arms headshakes, which all signal defensiveness that
can be a subconscious.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Tell I have a problem with the folded arms thing,
and the it's not really because I'm lying or anything.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
It's just like I don't know what to do with
my arms.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
M feels weird to just have them down at my sides,
like if I think about it too much.

Speaker 14 (01:41:29):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
I do that more when I am bored, just.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Like as a way to just kind of get comfortable
with yourself and just kind of lean back and be like,
all right, well, what is this conversation really?

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
I think when I'm in I'm in the folded arms thing,
I'm like, wrap it up.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Yeah, I get I get into bed, I lay down. Yeah,
I start laying down wherever I am.

Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
That's my Shiva.

Speaker 12 (01:41:57):
I'm gonna be doing the side eyed Abbey when I'm
doing my sports updates.

Speaker 8 (01:42:02):
Les me go and wrap it up. And the final
one is a forced smile. A forced lifeless smile can
be a sign that they're fibbing. Actually, you know what
I remember seeing that in like one of those true
crime docs is that when like a serial killer is
actually confessing that they usually have them on camera, and

(01:42:26):
like if somebody is talking about a crime that they committed,
but they're like they're saying they didn't do it or whatever.
That the thing that like detectives will look for is
whenever they say they didn't do something, they have a
tiny little curve and a little smile at the end
once the detective like says like, Okay, yeah, I believe you,

(01:42:49):
because that serial killer, whoever that person is, like cannot
physically hide the fact that they are so thrilled they
get away with it, Like they are so just charged
up and just get so much juice from the fact
that they get one over on somebody and then they

(01:43:09):
and they give it away by being like a last moment.

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
Yeah, I've seen these bread Now.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
The opposite tick like, if somebody thinks I'm lying, even
if I'm not lying, I start smiling, like I look
guilty even.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Though I haven't done anything. I'm like, I don't know.
Just the fact that you think I might have is
weird to me, and I just can't stop smiling.

Speaker 12 (01:43:33):
Well, you know, yeah, someone screenshotted me from a video
when we were talking to the Pirates, I think Travis Williams,
the Pirates preteam president after the season, and he said
something and I obviously I wear my expressions on my face.

Speaker 11 (01:43:50):
I'll be the first.

Speaker 12 (01:43:51):
And someone screenshoted me and they said, this is the
face you make when you know the person talking to
you is lying. And it was like I was like,
I was like, oh man. And the funny thing is
I was holding a microphone for one of the TV
stations and I had my phone and a lot of
the time I kept looking down at my phone, checking
to see the timestamps. Okay, he said something, I want
to remember this time, and you know, so I can

(01:44:11):
kind of make a mark mark for that, And so
there were there were some faces I was making where
I was looking down at my phone, not like paying
attention to what he was saying, you know, it wasn't
it wasn't reaction to that.

Speaker 11 (01:44:22):
It was reaction.

Speaker 12 (01:44:22):
Okay, this is what time it is. So I'm like,
but you know, somebody screenshot it. They were like, Oh,
here's the face they look they make when I was like,
oh boy.

Speaker 8 (01:44:29):
We're gonna be good this year's playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
We're gonna spends.

Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
Cloudy's guys today in a high of fifty nine.

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Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
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Speaker 12 (01:45:39):
keV, Well, if you want to feel a little bit
better about the Steelers situation, given that they are four
and two heading into Sunday nights game against the Green
Bay Packers, take a look around the rest of the
NFL and the dumpster fires that are, especially with the
Miami Dolphins, who are one and six after a thirty
one to six loss to the Cleveland Browns. Entering this

(01:46:02):
season in the Super Bowl era, one hundred and fifty
four teams had started the season one in six. Only
the nineteen seventy Cincinnati Bengals made the playoffs. If you
need reason to fire Mike McDaniel, aside from all the
other reasons, there's one right there.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:46:18):
McDaniel said that, you know, the way he looks at
the job is he finds a very offensive to all
parties involved.

Speaker 11 (01:46:23):
If he thinks about having the job, so he has
a job to do.

Speaker 12 (01:46:27):
He's not concentrating on whether he should be fired because
he knows the answer to that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:30):
So my wife start concentrating on it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
Yeah, I mean, has anybody ever fired themselves?

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
Because I feel like he could do that and actually
would regain the respect of a lot of people, especially
as players.

Speaker 4 (01:46:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:46:42):
I know that Dolphins fired Dave Oncetet the year before
he came to pitt.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
Or he resigned.

Speaker 12 (01:46:49):
I think they were going to fire him he resigned,
but yeah, I think it was after like a one
in seven start or something like that. So we're entering
that territory. And once that was kind of beloved in
Miami because of his days with the University of Miami
and then then in inheriting from Jimmy Johnson the Dolphins
job and having done a good job as a defensive coordinatory,

(01:47:11):
he's been well liked most places he's gone, and well
liked enough in Chicago even after not doing well with
the Bears that he made it, he made it his home.

Speaker 11 (01:47:19):
So yeah, I think Mike Mantinel's heading in that direction
to some degree.

Speaker 5 (01:47:24):
Have you heard it?

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
Did you hear him?

Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:47:26):
You want to hear it.

Speaker 21 (01:47:28):
There's a lot of guys that will have an important
work week because uh, we're not. I mean, if you
are negatively affecting the football team routinely, I don't have
a choice but to you know, assess a different player and.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
I have to coach.

Speaker 21 (01:47:49):
A lot better as well. So we need, uh we're
gonna find out who and what we're made of.

Speaker 11 (01:47:55):
Yeah, he's he's looking at personnel decisions. Now, that's that's
the big thing.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
Sound it's like a stoner. That's let's make believing that
he's a coach.

Speaker 6 (01:48:07):
Like.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
He doesn't sound like he belongs or knows what he's
doing at all.

Speaker 8 (01:48:12):
He sounds like he's in a movie plot where like
he shuck like he's like did like a crystal ball.

Speaker 5 (01:48:17):
And woke up when and he's like, my coach.

Speaker 12 (01:48:20):
I just heard Seth Rogan telling a story about how
in one of the movies they shot that they based
a scene on something that happened with one of his
friends where they were out and and he was really
messed up and ended up in the bathroom naked upside
in a like a shop, a pizza shop or something
like that, and they were like, He's like, yeah, I
fell asleep and I'm in the bathroom. They're like, yeah,
you're out in public, like we need to get your

(01:48:41):
clothes on and everything. But it's like, like, that's how
I feel like we're at this part of the story
is that Seth Rogan's gonna come in it out and
have a really good story about his time hanging out
with Mike McDaniel. The Dolphins had eleven penalties for one
hundred and three yards this kind of stuff he's talking about.
Four turnovers, three of them were interceptions by Tua. They
also had a fumble and a kick returns. So I
don't know that benching Tua is the answer. I think

(01:49:03):
everybody Miami knows that, but getting him to play better,
but it might be benching some of the guys around him.
Benching a quarterback isn't necessarily the perfect answer for some
is lostton or the Las Vegas Raiders found out and
the thirty one nothing lost to the Kansas City Chiefs.
They had can He Pickett replaced Gino Smith in the
fourth quarter and he fumbled the first nap and went

(01:49:24):
two for two freight yards from Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (01:49:28):
During the preseason, and.

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
You can't get worse about how big that ball is.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Hand?

Speaker 12 (01:49:42):
Let's give Kenny Pickett. No, let's not give him a hand.
Let's give him bigger hands, a big hand. Well, it
could be worse, you could be the New York Giants.
Not only did they have a New York Giants fan
take an unfortunate spill at one of the No King's rallies.
I don't know if you saw that one.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
In New York, right, isn't there, Yeah, trying to chase
a kid down, and yeah, he fell and then someone
tripped him, so he took a couple spills.

Speaker 12 (01:50:09):
But the New York Giants won up to them, you
know they had. They had a thirty two to nothing
lead going into the fourth quarter against the Denver Broncos.
Broncos were in danger of being shut out at home
for the first time in their sixty six year history.
Scored thirty three points in the fourth quarter thirty nine
yard Will LUTs field goal as time expired. The thirty

(01:50:32):
three fourth quarter points is the most an NFL history
by any team that was shut out through the first
three quarters, in the second most of any comeback, The
Detroit Lions came back from a thirty four point deficit
and a thirty seven to twenty seven went over the
Chicago Bears September thirtieth, two thousand and seven. One thousand,
six hundred and two consecutive games had been played in

(01:50:54):
an NFL. It snapped a streak here when leading by
eighteen points in the finals six minutes. So the Giants
just absolutely blew bo Nicks, the quarterback for the Broncos
head He's the first player to run for two touchdowns
and throw for two touchdowns in one quarter.

Speaker 11 (01:51:11):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
He went off that that game and that that that
fourth quarter was some of the most exciting football I've
ever seen. And it's crazy because you know, the Giants
are going to be made fun of for this epic
soiling of the sheets that just happened for them out
there in Denver. But really, I mean, that fan base
has to at least be excited about the fact that

(01:51:34):
Jackson Dart looks like a dude and Scataboo, if he
doesn't see te himself out.

Speaker 5 (01:51:40):
Of the league, is a bulldog. Yeah, carry.

Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
I mean, that dude just lives in the blue tent.

Speaker 3 (01:51:51):
But but you got to be excited if you're a
Giants fan about the potential of those two building around them.

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
You got to be excited. If you're a Denver Broncos fan,
own Nicks is the real deal.

Speaker 12 (01:52:02):
Yeah, and they're five and two. The Giants are two
and five. But yeah, that's a that's a big one.
The tight end.

Speaker 11 (01:52:08):
I think Daniel Bellinger for the Giants that this is
going to haunt us for a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:52:13):
Oh, I bet all right, let's get ready for jah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
Yeah yeah, Sorry, Abby, what are we talking about the
top of the hour? Lost myself there for a second.

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
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(01:53:11):
thanks so much for waking up and I guess there
was just absolutely no traffic in the middle of the
field last Thursday night in Cincinnati. My first question for you,
now that the dust has settled, what do you think
the Steelers are most concerned about after that loss in
Cincy And what do you think is their biggest issue as.

Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
They prepare for Green Bay and heading into the rest
of the season.

Speaker 13 (01:53:37):
Well, Billy, I feel it. It's a wonderfully ironic that
I'm sponsored by traffic safety when I'm driving my car,
you know, I think, really it's when you look at it.
It has certainly not offensively, and it has to be

(01:53:58):
what they're doing grammatically defensively, and that is either, okay,
how much sub package defense. Do you want to play
and invite teams to run the ball, which is what
the worst brushing attack in the NFL did Thursday night
in Cincinnati with success, or do you want to go

(01:54:20):
back to your base and rely on the quarterbacks that
you brought in to play press coverage and that test
for the first time. You know, that's what they geared
for when they brought those guys in, said, Okay, weird
will be able to match up with Cincinnati. Well they
failed that test miserably. So now will that continue? You

(01:54:43):
certainly hope not. They get another rematch with Cincinnati to
try it again a little bit later, but that had
I don't want to say it would be alarming. I'm
not sure it's concerning, but it certainly must have their
attention because what they had hoped to be able to
do did not work at all. I mean thirty targets

(01:55:04):
between those two guys, excuse me, thirty three targets between
those two guys, twenty three by Jamar Chase, most ever
against the Steelers, a third most all time. I mean, really,
they were just playing pitch and catch with him. It
looked so easy and there wasn't one I think the
two of them that well, they had four pass interference

(01:55:27):
calls against the Joey Porter and Jalen Ramsey, and I
think they had a total of three passes defense on
thirty three targets. I mean, obviously that's not very good.
And I mean, look, Jalen Ramsey stood up afterwards, he said, hey,
forget everybody else, I have to be better, and he
was right. I mean, you know, even that past that,

(01:55:47):
the Higgins at the end, you know, they beat Jalen
Ramsey on that play. So it was not a good
performance by the guys they were hoping to be able to,
you know, if not shut down Cincinnati, certainly do a better.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
Job than that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
I really do hope that it's a scheme thing and
not a player thing, because the roster is the roster,
and the soft zone and the choice not to come
after Flacco early and often in that game last Thursday
night proved to be costly, and I hope that they
change something up because with games against Jordan Love, Justin Herbert,
Joe Flacco again, Josh Allen, Jared Goff and potentially Lamar

(01:56:26):
Jackson twice, the challenge isn't going to get any easier.

Speaker 13 (01:56:32):
No, And I think to the other thing that was
in plenty at Cincinnati, you know they're not going to
be able to come after Joe Blaco. As quick as
he gets rid of the ball, he knows what he's
looking at he's going to get rid of it. It's
like Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers hasn't been sacked in three games.
And there's a reason why because when he sees it coming,
you know, he knows get rid of it, and he

(01:56:53):
gets rid of it quick. Anyhow, same deal. So and
if the Bengals are max protected means they're keeping one
or two extra guys in to stop the pass rush,
then that means they have fewer guys in coverage. So
then the answer to that is, okay, if you're not
going to get them to if you're not going to
get at Flacco by bringing more guys and drop more

(01:57:16):
guys in the coverage where they're killing you. So that's
that was kind of the conundrum that was going on
that they never ever solved. And you know, after coming
back and taking that lead, let's face it, first of all,
that was a real that was a was a really
exciting game to wat and then for them to come
back and then once again too easy passes to Jamar

(01:57:39):
Chase not to start that drive and then just t
Higgins on the sideline. It was it was all too
easy for the bankers.

Speaker 12 (01:57:47):
Cherry Kevin Gorman here, wanted to see are there players
that you think the Steelers could target, whether it's signing
somebody who's still kind of on the street or making
a trade to address some of their you know, defense issues.
I've heard people wishful thinking mentioned a Christian Wilkins or
in a Sante Samuel. Who are out there or are
there guys that you think the Stewers could target on

(01:58:09):
the trade market?

Speaker 13 (01:58:11):
You know, keV, I think they have the guys that
barring an injury, I think they feel they have the
guys they want to go with. You know, they had
their two young linemen. They like the guys in the secondary.
They brought in so many guys every event, that entire secondary.
They're not going to change it just based on one game.
They'll just change what they do a little bit. But again,

(01:58:33):
it was alarming because they matched up on those guys
and it just didn't work. So but no, I don't
expect them to make any moves barring an injury defensively
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
Well, what are they going to do offensively? Do you
think that they're going to go out and try to
get a wide receiver too? It seems like we've heard
this talk for the last two years. But for some reason,
it's just a story that won't die.

Speaker 13 (01:59:01):
Yeah, really, And I think that's that, you know, that's
somewhat the fans wishful thinking. I'm not saying that. You know,
they're always looking, but you see what they're doing with
their tight ends. No team in the league relies on
their tight ends more than the Steelers, and so they

(01:59:22):
feel they can get by. And they've shown that without
Calvin Austin for a couple of games, and Calvin Austin's
expected to come back Sunday, and I think if you
see them go get a wide receiver, it's going to
be the equivalent of Mike Williams what they did last year.
And now I get barring injury, something would happen the

(01:59:45):
DK metcap. Now it's a whole nother ball game. But
I don't know that they're actively pursuing it. But I
can tell you you know they're always looking, But I
don't think they're ready to push any kind of button
to say we need to go get a wide, a
second wide receiver, number two wide receiver, because you're seeing
what they're doing with all their different tight ends. So

(02:00:06):
I don't think I don't think they're they're If I
had to bet, I would say they're not going to
do it. That doesn't mean that they won't.

Speaker 8 (02:00:16):
Jerry, you tweeted something that kind of broke everybody's brain.
In the past four games, the opponent has averaged nearly
twenty more plays per game than the Steelers. And we've
kind of tossed around that that's not just a defensive issue.
But where do you want to pinpoint finding a solution
for that ahead of Green.

Speaker 5 (02:00:32):
Bay on Sunday Deby.

Speaker 13 (02:00:35):
I'm glad you brought that up because it's incredible that
the Cleveland Browns, who were held without a touchdown, ran
seventy five plays against the Steelers. Cincinnati Bengals ran seventy
two or seventy three, and so the last four games
is whatever that number was, the opponents have averaged seventy

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some plays a game. I think it's seventy two or
seventy three, and the Steelers are on fifty four. Well,
there's no question that's on the defense and their failure
to get off the field. I don't know how they continue,
how those teams continue to compile that many plays. The
average team, the average team, I think runs sixty to

(02:01:18):
sixty three or sixty four plays a game, and so
the Steelers aren't getting a lot of plays, and part
of that is because the defense isn't giving them the
ball back.

Speaker 6 (02:01:31):
You know.

Speaker 13 (02:01:31):
The other side of that is maybe the Steelers they
don't have those seventeen sixteen played drives if we saw
the last couple of years, and they're striking a little
quicker with Aaron Rodgers, which is a good thing. But
there's no question when the opponent is running that many plays,
the faults on the defense. And yet the defense had

(02:01:54):
been winning games and playing pretty good in the last
leading up to Cincinnati, So that's what's kind of strange
about it. But that's an important amount of play. So
when the difference is twenty plays a game, I guess what,
it's not getting your offense the opportunities as many opportunities
as you would like to see.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
If they can write the rudder Sunday night, that's Jerry
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Speaker 4 (02:02:20):
Jared, thanks so much for your time. We'll talk again
next week.

Speaker 13 (02:02:24):
You got it, Billy, I'll see you boys and girls.

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weird to just have them down at my sides, like
if I think about.

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It too much.

Speaker 5 (02:03:45):
Yeah, you know, I do that more when I am.

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Just like as a way to.

Speaker 3 (02:03:51):
Just kind of get comfortable with yourself and just kind
of lean back and be like, all right, well, what
is this conversation?

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Really?

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I think when I'm in the folded arms thing, I'm.

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fifty nine and pretty bold. Here, a gang of thieves
pulled off a daytime raid at the Louver in Paris,
breaking in via first floor window, using a lift and

(02:05:02):
an angle grinder and making off with eight historic Crown
jewels in just under seven minutes.

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
It sounds like some Oceans eleven stuff.

Speaker 8 (02:05:13):
It's pretty insane, but according to former FBI Art crime
specialist Tim Carpenter, the operation appears to have been meticulously planned.
The robbers targeted prized pieces linked to French royalty and
may melt the treasures or extract gems to bypass tracking.

Speaker 11 (02:05:32):
Wow, which makes.

Speaker 8 (02:05:34):
Sense because I'm wondering, like what pawn shop are you
walking into with that?

Speaker 4 (02:05:39):
Yeah, Like we don't have the budget to deal with
that kind of crime.

Speaker 3 (02:05:44):
We need, but I didn't think a crime like this
could even happen now, especially with how many people traffic
or you know, go to the Louver on a day
to day basis, with.

Speaker 4 (02:05:57):
All of the security cameras all over the place.

Speaker 5 (02:06:01):
Same thing. There's cameras everywhere everywhere. So this is how
they did it.

Speaker 8 (02:06:06):
Apparently three to four people used a furniture elevator that
was on a truck, so this was like on a
like an outside window to the Loof, which I was
like the loof as like an outside window, right, And
then they got in and they used an angle grinder,
and again.

Speaker 4 (02:06:26):
Well you have to have an angle grinder.

Speaker 5 (02:06:28):
Everyone knows the old.

Speaker 4 (02:06:29):
Crowns without an angle grinder, every.

Speaker 5 (02:06:32):
Bad it knows. But again, they had vests that made
them look like they were workers.

Speaker 8 (02:06:39):
And then as soon as they were able to get
what they wanted, they escaped on motorcycles and then the
museum was evacuated and closed for the day.

Speaker 3 (02:06:48):
Wow, I feel like, you know, just after coming back
from Dublin, didn't you feel like it was so lax
from a security standpoint. I remember at one point in
the weekend thinking to myself and saying out loud multiple people,
where are the cops.

Speaker 4 (02:07:02):
I don't even know what their uniforms are. I don't
know where they are. This place is packed, Every place
is packed. I didn't even see them in the streets.

Speaker 5 (02:07:10):
I think I said that to you because I.

Speaker 8 (02:07:14):
Had the same feeling where you know, Carson Street on
the south Side was the only thing compare it to,
because like Temple Bar, I was trying to you know
that that's more of the tourist spot in Dublin, and
I was like, this is like, you know, the Carson Street,
but it was it was nothing like there was very
little vehicular traffic, but there was enough where if you

(02:07:37):
weren't paying attention, you.

Speaker 5 (02:07:38):
Were probably gonna get that car.

Speaker 8 (02:07:40):
Yeah, but you know that was That's always the thing
I daydream about with Carson Street, as I would, you know,
I would think it would be so much safer if
we could just like, you know, also not have cars
going up and down. You know, that would just make
things a lot easier. But at the same time, I
kept thinking, like, how is this happening? There's not a
cop in sight?

Speaker 5 (02:07:59):
Why is I Why are all these people so calm?

Speaker 8 (02:08:04):
And how are they this drunk and nothing's happening and
there's no cops anywhere. But I agree with you that
was one of my bigger takeaways. I'm like, I don't
even know what a Dublin cop looks like, you know what.

Speaker 3 (02:08:16):
I found out what their cop cars look like, and
that was maybe the reason why I was like, where
are all the cops? Their cop cars are very fun colored,
like it's it's like this weird, crazy geometrical shaped design
on the side of the cars and it's all bright

(02:08:37):
colors and it almost looks like they're construction workers or
traffic workers or something.

Speaker 5 (02:08:43):
Like they don't look like cops at all, like balloon
animals on the side, Like.

Speaker 4 (02:08:48):
Yeah, right, it's good.

Speaker 3 (02:08:49):
Yeah, they got the shag and wagon. Yeah, it's just
a big furry dog they're driving around in has a
huge guinness on the side, Like I want to get
in there, but I guess I, you know, it's it's
just not that their cops don't have guns.

Speaker 6 (02:09:03):
No.

Speaker 8 (02:09:05):
The funniest thing, and I keep saying it to everybody
whenever I'm asked about Dublin is something that you told
me whenever I think you asked somebody, Hey, well, what
happens when somebody does get a little too drunk whenever, Like,
you know, somebody's on the street and they're, you know,
maybe a little unruly or maybe they they you know,
they're a little two in the bag. What happens when

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somebody needs to get out of here? Like what do
you do when there's not a lot of cops on
the road And somebody said, oh, you just move them along.
It's it's like that sounds so nice, sounds so sweet,
because there were kids.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
All up and down the streets, drinking wine and beers,
just sitting down, not in a bar.

Speaker 4 (02:09:47):
And I found out that they would.

Speaker 3 (02:09:48):
Go to grocery stores or wherever sold the alcohol, get
their own because it was cheaper, and just go where
the bar area was and sit on the curb and
d their drinks. And there's no law there against public
intoxication or open container or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (02:10:07):
Kind of incredible, there's just no uh wow.

Speaker 3 (02:10:12):
I mean, I think that that's what happens when you've
been around for thousands of years and you're sort of
like the wily old vet in terms of being a country.

Speaker 4 (02:10:21):
Yeah, you know, you're not such a newbie like we
are in this country.

Speaker 5 (02:10:26):
Forget we're such a baby.

Speaker 12 (02:10:27):
I mean, it's been twenty plus years since I've been Ireland,
but I also don't remember a lot of people going
to the pub and drinking and then driving anywhere. They
pretty much just walked home, right Like I think. I
think that's a big part of it, is like when
you just move them along, it's like you don't worry
about it them meeting in a car and being a
danger to others on themselves.

Speaker 3 (02:10:43):
Yeah, it's a big part of it, Yeah, stumbled back
to wherever you came.

Speaker 8 (02:10:47):
From exactly, which there will be a lot of walking
as well when it comes to trick or treating, which
is closer than we think here. The city announced this
year's designated trick or Treat hours. People are encouraged to
host trick or treat on October thirty first, from five
thirty to seven thirty. I'm assuming our neighborhood's going to

(02:11:09):
do Halloween proper, although I was just told that, like
a friend of ours is having trick or treat like
this coming weekend, and I don't understand it at all
because I'm like, when when Halloween's coming up on a friday, Yeah,
why are we Why are.

Speaker 5 (02:11:24):
We moving anything around for it?

Speaker 4 (02:11:26):
But are you doing like a trunk or treat like
in the park.

Speaker 5 (02:11:30):
Your neighborhood is just bumping it up a weekend. So
I'm not sure that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:34):
They sports people because if they are like those au leagues,
don't care about your schedule whatsoever.

Speaker 8 (02:11:41):
No, they don't, And maybe it's like that the adults
are just kind of like, yeah, I have plans, so
we're going to move this up, but regardless, like.

Speaker 11 (02:11:49):
You can't have Halloween on high school football Friday.

Speaker 5 (02:11:53):
I guess not.

Speaker 11 (02:11:54):
Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (02:11:54):
That's probably what it is for a lot of families.

Speaker 5 (02:11:58):
Okay, I didn't consider that.

Speaker 8 (02:11:59):
But the point is that now they've invited us to
go and get a bonus Halloween, which I might do.

Speaker 4 (02:12:07):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 8 (02:12:08):
I think it's terrible, But I also might do it
for my kid, just because she was already kind of
of the mindset of this is still the timeframe she's
nine years old, where Halloween is still super exciting. Yeah,
And so she wanted to have me do her makeup
last night as a test run because she wanted to

(02:12:31):
remind me that she might not like how I do it,
and that she would like to see how I plan
on doing it so that we don't come up on
Halloween night and then she's going to have some corrections
she would.

Speaker 5 (02:12:44):
Like me to make and we won't have time to
fix them.

Speaker 4 (02:12:47):
She's making audition. Basically did a practice.

Speaker 8 (02:12:51):
Run in Yeah, and we did that, and I like
did her eyeliner and everything, and you know, trying to
do eyeliner on a nine year old is like I
might as well be trying.

Speaker 5 (02:13:00):
To do it on a cat. So she's like moving
and going like I don't get into mat, and then.

Speaker 8 (02:13:07):
Had the audacity to then take a look at it
and go, you know, it's a little crooked.

Speaker 5 (02:13:12):
And I was like, why do you think it's crooked?

Speaker 8 (02:13:15):
Like when you're backing up, and like you know, She's like, okay,
I'll try it again. So we went through like the
test run and guys, I passed. So I'm really excited
about that.

Speaker 4 (02:13:26):
But I'm a driver at this point. I'm just I'm
the uber pick up and drop off.

Speaker 12 (02:13:34):
I just remember I never really cared for Halloween a
whole lot, and I think a lot of it is
because I was traumatized as a child. My my mother
one year made me a cardboard box painted black and
made it into pac Man and it was for like
a school contest, and I did well on the contest.
But the problem was the box was so wide that
you couldn't make armholes. It's like, couldn't use a treaty

(02:13:57):
because I couldn't take my arms out like it was
just basically or my shoulders. So I couldn't use it
as for anything other than the contests. So I remember, like,
you know, so I probably went for a football player
as a football player for like the eighth year in
a row. But I remember like thinking like, oh, this
thinks like the best costume I ever had.

Speaker 11 (02:14:14):
I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (02:14:18):
Yeah, I miss I missed those early days with the girls.
I mean here in Pittsburgh, like the weather is usually trash,
it's cold, you know, And I just remember back in
the day when my daughters were both doing the princess thing,
and they're in their princess dresses but they have their
winter coats on over it, and we're walking up and
down the street and it's like sleet.

Speaker 4 (02:14:40):
And but but I really miss it.

Speaker 8 (02:14:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:14:43):
I only have my sister and her kids to kind
of still get a little bit of that magic with.
We walk around, uh, their neighborhood and I go trigger
treating with them. Because my my girls are either one
done with it, Like Kennedy's a senior, she's not going
out for Halloween.

Speaker 4 (02:14:59):
She's going to hallowe parties now, which is terrifying.

Speaker 3 (02:15:02):
Yeah, and then Emma's just you know, still will go
out and you know, kind of dress up a little bit,
but they're doing their own thing, like they don't want
me around.

Speaker 5 (02:15:10):
You know, also terrifying.

Speaker 4 (02:15:12):
Yeah, that's terrifying, always heartbreaking and all that.

Speaker 8 (02:15:16):
Yeah, I think this is like we kind of started
very early with always doing family costumes, but it was
before Edie would have been sentient enough to know that
we were doing family costumes.

Speaker 5 (02:15:29):
So we always did really elaborate and super.

Speaker 8 (02:15:34):
So we would yeah, pick like Disney families and like,
you know, we did like Little Mermaid one year, and
we did Tangled one year, and.

Speaker 4 (02:15:41):
Didn't you guys do did you guys do Beauty in
the Beast or no.

Speaker 5 (02:15:44):
We didn't do Beauty in the Beast. We did cats
one year, but like the Broadway Cats and so like.

Speaker 4 (02:15:52):
Yeah, you know you wouldn't have no dad, No, no, no,
Joe didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:15:56):
Know, you know what.

Speaker 5 (02:15:57):
I take it back, Joe did kind of like it.

Speaker 8 (02:16:01):
There was a year she wanted to be Hello Kitty,
and so we did like then we were like a
doughnut and a strawberry, you know, as the parents with
her like so we always tried to like, you know,
make it so that we were coordinated in whatever way.
But as she's gotten older, she's dictated what the costume
has been because she's become less flexible. The problem is

(02:16:21):
is that every year what she wants to be is
less and less tangible, because again, one of the big
buzzwords that we you know, use on the show is
that there's no monoculture anymore.

Speaker 5 (02:16:32):
Really, we don't have a monoculture.

Speaker 8 (02:16:33):
So because of that, she's picking like anime characters from
a show that no one's ever seen much.

Speaker 5 (02:16:41):
Yeah, nobody knows what that is.

Speaker 3 (02:16:42):
And so now this year, certainly not any of the
older people that are answering the door, because you know
that would be a thing growing up. I remember for Halloween,
like the people that were answering the door would guess
like what you were?

Speaker 4 (02:16:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:16:56):
Nice, No, not at all.

Speaker 8 (02:16:59):
And every every kid wants to be somebody from K
Pop Demon Hunters, which is also like kind of in
that world of anime. So she's not gonna be like
super far out of like that wheelhouse, but she's gonna
be far out enough that I think she's gonna find
herself completely enraged that everybody's going to think that she's

(02:17:21):
a character from K Pop Demon Hunters that they just
don't remember.

Speaker 5 (02:17:25):
And when she comes home, I guarantee she's.

Speaker 4 (02:17:27):
Gonna be fuming, devastated.

Speaker 8 (02:17:29):
But she still wants the whole family to be this
anime family from this it's called Spy Family, but it's anime.

Speaker 5 (02:17:38):
It's not Spy Kids, Spy Family.

Speaker 8 (02:17:41):
The funny thing is that she's a very cute, little
pink haired anime character.

Speaker 5 (02:17:46):
And then she showed me what the rest of the
family looks like.

Speaker 8 (02:17:51):
The mom in this family looks like a character from
the Matrix, but she's wearing like a choker and then
like a Dominate Tricks outfit. And I was like, I
looked at it and I was like, Eadie, I can't
wear that, And she said why not?

Speaker 5 (02:18:11):
And I said, well, the daddies on the street are
not gonna like that. Well, actually the daddy's on the
street are going to like.

Speaker 4 (02:18:19):
That, and that's why.

Speaker 14 (02:18:22):
Do that?

Speaker 8 (02:18:22):
And I said, if we get yeah, like if we
get separated, that's going to be a really big problem
for the mommies on the street too, that's not going
to be okay. So we had to look up a
different version of that mom. She has a daytime outfit,
and that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, exactly, just be

(02:18:44):
like but there was an article here about like Halloween
trends and saying, like, you know how much you would
spend on a costume. There's kind of an average here
that if you celebrate with kids, you are spending at
four hundred and forty five dollars on average. Oh really,
which is I don't know, you think that's a lot,

(02:19:06):
or yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (02:19:07):
Think that's a ton. I don't ever spend a ton
on Halloween.

Speaker 3 (02:19:12):
I mean, obviously, like over the years building up like
our decorations and stuff, or if we host a party
that's another whole expense, but just on the costumes, we
don't ever go over fifty bucks. I feel like every
costume at Spirit Halloween is reasonably priced.

Speaker 5 (02:19:32):
They yeah, they generally are.

Speaker 8 (02:19:34):
I was hoping taking her to Spirit Halloween was going
to actually cure this idea of going like basically what
ends up being.

Speaker 4 (02:19:42):
One stop shop. Let's hear it's all right here.

Speaker 8 (02:19:46):
Well, I wanted her to just see the potential for
group costumes and just be like, oh my god, that's
so much funnier.

Speaker 5 (02:19:52):
Let's do that.

Speaker 3 (02:19:53):
I'm on, We're Ghostbusters, It's perfect. Oh my god, proj
on packs for the whole family.

Speaker 12 (02:19:58):
I remember buying my son, I think it was Party
City or somewhere like that, but buying him, you know,
a mask in hands and just a cape and being like, okay,
we're going on the cheap here. And the last thing
we bought was a voice changer, and that was that
was priceless. I might he spent ten bucks on it
or whatever, but you know, he'd go to the door
and he had a different voice, you know, launch voice

(02:20:18):
or a ghoal voice, and he could flip a switch
and change the voice so he could go robot voice,
it could be yeah. So it was like ten bucks
or fifteen bucks. I was like it was the best
money ever spent. And he used it every year for
like a three or four year span. So the other
thing that I bought, which was a lifesaver, I remember
having to pick my son up at after school daycare
and then going to his friends for trick or treating,
and I stopped at a dollar store on a rainy

(02:20:40):
night and bought like a dozen clear ponchos so all
the kids put the clear plastic ponchos over and you
could still see their costumes. And that was like, that
was you know, I came up and saved the day
on that one. That was yeah, And that cost me
what ten bucks or twelve bucks? When they were dollar
ponchos So.

Speaker 4 (02:20:55):
But you never forget it was a dad. Never it
was the clutch. This is like my Jordan flu game.

Speaker 5 (02:21:05):
It is going to be cloudy today.

Speaker 8 (02:21:06):
You kind of can't rule out that we might have
a shower, but we're hopefully going to get some peaks
of sunshine High fifty nine today.

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Speaker 12 (02:21:58):
Well, there is going to be a Game seven in
the ALCS. The Toronto Blue Jays forced Game six beat
the Seattle Mariners six to last night, and behind the
pitching of rookie right hander Trayy Savage.

Speaker 11 (02:22:11):
Great story.

Speaker 12 (02:22:12):
Twenty two year old started the season in low A,
made it to the majors on September fifteenth, had a
I think incredible. I think he had an eleven strikeout
performance in the playoffs already this year, had eight ks
in his major league debut. Has had a really, you know,
outstanding season for them. Last night went five and two
third innings, two runs on six hits and three walks

(02:22:34):
with seven k's, but more importantly, three consecutive innings that
ended with ground into double plays, including one in the
third with the bases loaded in al MVP favorite Cal
Rawley at the plate got him the ground into a
three six one, which is kind of a rare double
play there.

Speaker 3 (02:22:52):
He's been on a tear like to get a player
like the big dumper out in that situation is big.

Speaker 12 (02:22:57):
And he hit a home run to tie the game
in Game five or Game four or five, he had
a home run tie the game and then hey, Suarez
hit a grand Slam and they won six to two.
And that one I believe the Mariners did this one.
He got three consecutive Vlad Guerrero hit a solo shot

(02:23:18):
in the sixth and the fifth inning for his six
home run of the postseason, which tied Joe Carter and
Jose Bautista for the most by a Blue Jay in
a single playoff run. They will play tonight at eight
oh eight pm at the Rogers Center in Toronto. Winner
faces the Los Angeles Dodgers, who completed a four game
sweep of the Milwaukee Brewers thanks to that historic performance
by NLCSMBP show Heyo Tawny and you.

Speaker 4 (02:23:40):
Think the Jays are going to do it tonight? Close
him off.

Speaker 12 (02:23:43):
I feel like the Jays have the advantage. I think
it's gonna be tough to keep Rawley down. I think
he had three strikeouts in the double play last night.
I don't think you're going to get another performance like that.
He also had an error. You're not gonna get another
poor performance out of cal Rawley. But I feel like
Vlad Guerrero is on a tear and they have the
edge with Shane Bieber, a former Cy Young Winner on
the mound and a three time Young Winner Max Schers

(02:24:06):
are in the bullpen, and there's a guy with some
serious playoff history, so they have a little bit of
an advantage on the mound so and as well as
the home field advantage. So I think that favors the
Blue Jays, and I'm sure Major League Baseball wouldn't mind
having an East Coast team in the World Series facing
the Dodgers, so that they're have to really kind of
throw a wrench into the schedule with a Seattle LA series,

(02:24:27):
which would be that would be tough for them. You know,
the Steers playing Sunday Night against the Green Bay Packers.
Steeers four and two with Aaron Rodgers facing his former team,
which is four one on one, and that's the big
the big storyline there is the defense is Jerry Dulak
mentioned the Steelers allowed one hundred and forty two rushing
yards four hundred seventy total yards and that Thursday night

(02:24:49):
loss at Cincinnati thirty three, thirty one loss, So the
Steers have to really shut that down. Chase Brown, you know,
came into the game averaging two point seven yards per
carryovers first six games average nine point eight against the Steelers, I.

Speaker 3 (02:25:03):
Mean, the worst rushing team in the league. That's all
we heard about this team going into that game was
that they just cannot run.

Speaker 12 (02:25:10):
The ball, and the Steelers that we were just talking
about off air Bill. The Steelers had, I think what
the twenty first pick, and they drafted Derek Carmon to
address their defensive line. Passed on Jackson Dark who supplanted
Russell Wilson as the starter for the New York Giants.

Speaker 3 (02:25:24):
Losing all our compensatory picks, everybody's getting bench.

Speaker 12 (02:25:27):
And the New York Jets bench Justin Fields at halftime
of their thirteen to six loss against the Carolina Panthers.
He was six of twelve for forty six yards, took
three sacks in the first half, sacked nine times for
and produced minus ten yards net yards passing against Denver
the week before, Field signed a guaranteed thirty million dollars contract,

(02:25:48):
but averaged only one hundred forty one yards over six games.
He missed one with a concussion. He was benched despite
not throwing any interceptions. The Jets became only the second
team in a decade to hold opponents to thirteen points
for fewer and back to back games and lose both games.
Wow and Fields was averaging four yards fewer than four
yards per attempting those those games a matchup of former

(02:26:10):
and current Penguins goaltenders. Tristan Jarry won that showdown. Sidney
Crosman of Getting Belcom both had a goal and assist
against Alex nadelkovic Is. The Penguins beat the Senate as
a Sharks three and nothing. On Saturday, Jari had thirty
one saves for his first shutout of the season, twenty
second of his career all with the Penguins. That moves
him into a second place tie all time in franchise

(02:26:33):
history with Tom Barrasso. Marc Andre Fleury has forty four.
Barasso had twenty two. So that's pretty incredible given the
ups and downs of Jari's career. Yeah, you know, this
is a guy who's been a multi time All Star
for the Penguins, but has also been benched in favor
of Ned.

Speaker 6 (02:26:49):
So.

Speaker 12 (02:26:50):
The Penguins four and two face the Vancouver Cannucks four
and two, both teams at eight points that game seven pm.
On Tuesday, pitt won its third straight game, Penn State
dropped fourth consecutive.

Speaker 11 (02:27:01):
The Panthers hoops team.

Speaker 12 (02:27:03):
Rallied in one against Providence and exhibition game maybe one
seventy four, and the Panthers women's volleyball team pulled off
a five set win at Louisville yesterday. That was a
rematch of the twenty twenty four Final four. Olivia Babcock
had thirteen kills in the fourth set, forty one for
the match. That's a program record. So big victory for

(02:27:26):
the Panthers there. Yeah, their volleyball team is ridiculous. I
was I caught onto that last year.

Speaker 3 (02:27:33):
My girlfriend and her kids love volleyball, and Pitt went
on an incredible run, as did Penn State, and I
was hoping to kind of see that matchup in the final.

Speaker 11 (02:27:43):
Pitt lost in the semi I believe Louisville.

Speaker 12 (02:27:46):
Yeah, and Louisville it has only lost in the last
few years five matches at home and know pithanded them one.

Speaker 11 (02:27:52):
So that's a big victory for the Panthers.

Speaker 3 (02:27:54):
Did you catch the James Franklin interview on game day
over the weekend, because I was shocked that he did
the interview this close after being fired.

Speaker 4 (02:28:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:28:08):
Todd McShay, who's been a vocal critic of James Franklin,
kind of called it on brand and strategic and you.

Speaker 5 (02:28:14):
Know, self serve his message out. Yeah, to get his
message out there.

Speaker 12 (02:28:17):
But I also thought that James Franklin took the high
road and kind of represented they did Penn State in
the same class that he represented Penn State during his
entire tenure as the Nitny Lions coach, as a former State,
the Penn State alum, as somebody who's covered the Penn
State football team, I thought he did a great job there.
He just didn't win the big games, and you put
himself in a position where that was all he had

(02:28:38):
left to do was win the big games, and they
didn't do it, and then they lost the bad games.
I think people were willing to give him, you know,
the white out loss in overtime to Oregon, People were
kind of willing to overlook that one, as much as
that was a heartbreaker. But then to follow that up
by losing games where you were favored by twenty plus
points at UCLA and against Northwestern and now to Iowa

(02:29:00):
and Terry Smith's debut as interim coach, that one was
a little tougher to swallow. That this is a Penn
State team that had national championship aspirations and so very
conflicted there. Because I liked the way James Franklin represented
the program. But I also think like, you take the
program to a certain level and then it becomes about
getting it past that. He got the national semi finals

(02:29:20):
last year and were within you know, a few plays
of making it to the national championship game, and now
here he is fired in the middle of a season.

Speaker 3 (02:29:28):
Yeah, that's what coach Saban was talking to him about,
basically that he was the he ended up being the
victim of the expectations that he set for Penn State.
I mean, coming into this season rank number one overall
probably didn't help in terms of a pressurized situation for him.

Speaker 4 (02:29:48):
Yeah, but I don't think anybody saw this.

Speaker 3 (02:29:51):
But apparently in the couple of articles that I read
about it, they were talking about the playoff last year
and said like that the wins just weren't in enough.

Speaker 4 (02:30:01):
They weren't against you know, marquee, big name teams. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:30:06):
I think he was four and eighteen against or four
and twenty one.

Speaker 4 (02:30:11):
But what he Boise State and Smure in.

Speaker 12 (02:30:13):
Twenty one against top ten opponents and one in eighteen
against big ten. The record was not good against top
tier opponents. And that's that's why guys in that position
get fired. It's not about the overall, it's about how
you do against Ohio State and Michigan and other teams
like Notre Dame. Can you beat the teams that are
your roadblock to a national championship.

Speaker 8 (02:30:35):
But he's still the biggest name in the coaching market,
like you know it, there's no job. Hell yeah, there
are so many teams that would love to have him.
Is that you know, lazy Susan spins in twenty twenty five,
like Arkansas UCLA.

Speaker 4 (02:30:51):
Yeah, Florida just fired their coach.

Speaker 3 (02:30:54):
Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be teams that are gonna
make way for somebody like Franklin to come in. I'm
just curious if you think he's good enough to go
somewhere else and win a national champions And that's what
he's his stated goal, that's what he said. He said,
I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go win a national
championship somewhere else. And his complaint all along, which is
I think kind of caused Penn State fans to turn

(02:31:15):
on him a little bit, was that they didn't have
the facilities that some other programs have, and they didn't
have the nil money that some other programs have, and
they stepped up with the nil money this past offseason
to retain some players, you know, most notably their two
running Backsktron Allen and Nick Singleton and the quarterback drule
are And so that's the thing is he's going to

(02:31:35):
have schools that are going to have those resources that
he had to fight against to get at Penn State.
He's going to have those resources, and it's a matter
whether he can deliver on his end, you know, providing
a program that can win those big games like he
didn't do it Penn State. And so we'll see whether
it's the chicken and the egg argument. We'll see whether
it's the nil and the lack of facilities, or if

(02:31:56):
it's the guy who doesn't come up big in big games.

Speaker 4 (02:31:59):
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Speaker 3 (02:32:41):
Bill Crawford, Abby Krisner, Kevin Gorman hanging in studio licking
our wounds here trying to figure out where we go
next with the Steelers. Didn't have any games to watch
on Sunday, as far as the Steeler game did watch
some of the the rest of the league play some

(02:33:01):
absolutely crazy performances, including to A getting benched, Justin Fields
getting benched, Gino Smith getting benched, and then Kenny Pickett
coming in and fumbling on the first play from scrimmage.

Speaker 5 (02:33:18):
I mean it's.

Speaker 3 (02:33:20):
Jackson Dart and Bo Nicks going at it in the
fourth quarter out there in Denver, Denver, I think you said, keV.

Speaker 4 (02:33:28):
You shared this stat earlier. The first team to score thirty.

Speaker 3 (02:33:32):
Three points in the fourth quarter after being shut out
through the first three.

Speaker 12 (02:33:37):
Yes, and also they snapped an NFL streak of oney
six hundred and two consecutive games were won by the
team that was leading by eighteen points in the final
six minutes. Man, so pretty much, if you had it,
if you had an eighteen point lead in the final
six minutes, it was a guaranteed victory.

Speaker 3 (02:33:56):
Until yesterday, and you you saw player walking off the field,
Brian Burns most notably, absolutely pissed off at the defense
that was being called. So it comforts me a little
bit when I see other teams out there shaking their head,
being disgruntled, being pissed off at the game plan or

(02:34:19):
the scheme that they decided to trot out there at
the end of the game, I guess they were playing
soft coverage and just let the Broncos march down the
field and score.

Speaker 12 (02:34:28):
I think that's the one thing you can take away
from the week if you think about if you isolated
just a Thursday and you say, my god, the Steelers
were awful defensively, and then you take a look, take
a step back and see what happened around the rest
of the NFL, and say, well, you know, Joe Flacco's
won a Super Bowl, and the Bengals arguably have the
two best receiverer best receiver tandem in the league with

(02:34:48):
Jase Higgins. So you can look at that and say, Okay,
justifiable that if you look at it strictly from that standpoint,
and not that the Steelers have the highest paid defense
in the NFL and that they out and got Jalen
Ramsey and Darius Slay and drafted Derek Carmon over Jackson Dark. Yeah,
if you look at it strictly from hey, look at
the opponent as opposed to, well, this didn't happen to

(02:35:10):
the Steelers against bo Nicks and the Steeers didn't have
to resort to throwing in a backup quarterback who kind
of made even a bigger mess of things, or they
don't have a coach who has no answers. You know
that Tomlin has faced adversity and he's going to come
up with a scheme better than this that the next
time they faced the Bengals. So, like I think it,
maybe it brings a little more clarity, although it's not

(02:35:32):
going to leave you any less upset.

Speaker 3 (02:35:34):
Do you think that they've actually are capable of figuring
out the run game because they had that three game
stretch there where they stopped the run. But one of
those games was against the Patriots where they were forcing turnovers.
It seems like every time they're running back touched the
ball and that kind of ended the run game there.
The Patriots just stopped even trying to run it. And

(02:35:55):
then you're going up against the Vikings in Dublin and
they're not known for their power running in they also
have one of the best UH wide receiver tandems in
the league, and so they wanted to air it out
against the Steelers. Do you think that that problem has
ever actually been solved, Well, they haven't solved. Like you know,

(02:36:16):
I remember when the Steelers had streaks where nobody ran
for one hundred yards as a team on the Steelers
and no players ran for one hundred yards. And that's
long gone. But the Steelers have been getting getting gouged. Yes,
super Bowl champion stuff. That's the Super Bowl champion teams
did that. The thing that I could see changing, and
I think it's going to leave not only fans upset,

(02:36:38):
but some players are going to be upset is they
were running. At some point the Steelers had three outside
linebackers on the field, and that was for pass rush purposes.
So somebody, and it's not gonna be TJ.

Speaker 4 (02:36:48):
Watt.

Speaker 12 (02:36:49):
Somebody is going to be an unhappy camper, whether it's
Nick Herbig or Alex high Smith is not going to
be on the field with the other outside linebackers if
they're going to sell out to stop the run.

Speaker 11 (02:36:59):
And I don't know that the going to sell out.

Speaker 12 (02:37:00):
They may just make adjustments to the scheme, but to
some degree you need to kind of come up with
who who is going to be your run stopper?

Speaker 6 (02:37:07):
You know?

Speaker 12 (02:37:08):
To me, the guy that I'm still kind of trying
to figure out where he fits and whether he's as
good as advertise or as good as he's being paid
as Patrick Queen, you know, is this the guy that's
the centerpiece of your defense or not? You know, is
he going to be a Pro Bowl caliber inside linebacker?

Speaker 3 (02:37:25):
And he had two terrific games before that game on
Thursday night. I don't think anybody on the defense really
had a great game. No, And just the way that
the Steelers somehow manifested that game that Joe Flacco had from.

Speaker 4 (02:37:38):
A million miles away, letting him pass all over US.

Speaker 3 (02:37:42):
I felt like the Browns game on Sunday was just
the Browns manifesting their own brownsing it up versus the Steelers,
because their game plan was to drop their rookie quarterback
back fifty eight times and not run the ball, which
they had doing efficiently and did again this weekend against Miami.

Speaker 4 (02:38:05):
Having covered this, Jenkins looked like he went off.

Speaker 11 (02:38:08):
Yeah, yesterday, He's good.

Speaker 12 (02:38:11):
I having covered the Steelers in the second half of
the season last year from the Monday night football game
against the Giants on I think it's better that this
happened in the first six games of the season rather
than at the end when the Steelers would be trying
to figure out something on the fly as they're trying
to clinch a playoff spot and playoff seating. I think
this is something that's correctable, and whether it's correctable that

(02:38:33):
you address it by signing a player or adding somebody
the trade deadline, or just getting people healthy and making,
you know, adjustments, as Jerry Dulex suggested, which is more
likely that they're not going to go wholesale and add
another guy, but I could see them making some type
of an adjustment that it's going to leave somebody unhappy,
but might be better for the overall health of the defense.

(02:38:54):
But they've got to get it figured out because when
you have guys like Ramsey and Slay, who are NFL
veter in and have had a lot of success in
this league get exposed the way that they did, you know,
that's that's there's there's a lot of problems. It's not
just that, you know, because these guys can cover. They
didn't cover very well against you know, especially against Chase,
but nobody covers Chase well. I mean, Chase is, he's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (02:39:16):
But when he's breaking records his own record, but still
he's breaking records for receptions and they're targeting them twenty
three times, something is a miss, like why you're not
shading coverage to that side or double teaming him from
the the gate.

Speaker 4 (02:39:35):
And I understand that they have two great receivers, but
just take one of them away.

Speaker 12 (02:39:39):
Well, the Steelers have some great defensive players, Cam Hayward
and TJ. Watt, you know, most prominently, the Steeers aren't
going to bench them. So I have a feeling that
it's going to fall on the guys who didn't product
produce on the opposite sides of them that are going
to be under the pressure. That's just my take is
it's not going to come down as like, well, we're
not going to use what and hey in the same

(02:40:01):
roles that they're going to remain in those rules. Yeah,
so it's going to come down on somebody else. And
that's where I think you're going to see some changes,
even if it's just a matter of It may not
be major changes in terms of somebody losing their starting job,
but you may see them get you know, significantly or
slightly less.

Speaker 3 (02:40:15):
Naps Abbey, where is our mental health and emotional wellness
at right now?

Speaker 8 (02:40:21):
I want you to take a deep breath and ground
your feet to the floor and remember that you are
here in this moment. Nick Herpek is waking up this
morning still grateful because he's from Kawaii and he remembers
that every day is a gift.

Speaker 5 (02:40:38):
Big deep breath in and remember that the game day
bar of the week is fun Days in south Park.

Speaker 8 (02:40:47):
Fun Days gives you a chance to grab three dollars
bud Light sixteen ounce aluminum bottles during all Steeler games.

Speaker 5 (02:40:52):
Bud Light easy to drink, easy to enjoy.

Speaker 4 (02:40:58):
The Steelers will stop the run Sunday night.

Speaker 14 (02:41:02):
All right.

Speaker 4 (02:41:02):
I think that's good. I think we're good. Thank you
so much.

Speaker 11 (02:41:05):
He at least we're not married to j Loo.

Speaker 3 (02:41:07):
I'm down and people can love us. It's like we
are worthy of love. Yeah, somebody out there will love
us exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:41:18):
Just cal him down, j Lo.

Speaker 4 (02:41:19):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (02:41:20):
Thank you too, Jerry Dulac, Tim Benz and Kevin Gorman
for hanging all morning in studio.

Speaker 4 (02:41:27):
We appreciate you, keV.

Speaker 3 (02:41:29):
Tomorrow on the show, we got Charlie Batch, Jeans Sterotur
and Billy Gardell. Michelle is up next with the Electric
Lunch at noon. Have a great day, everybody.

Speaker 7 (02:41:38):
I'm finished.

Speaker 5 (02:41:39):
You say, classy Pittsburgh, don't touch your face?

Speaker 8 (02:41:42):
He cut him touch Pittsburg day baby.

Speaker 4 (02:41:44):
But now you call me Ronald?

Speaker 5 (02:41:45):
Would you not eat my pants?

Speaker 6 (02:41:47):
Ronald Way?

Speaker 4 (02:41:53):
Google it.

Speaker 17 (02:41:57):
It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVD, brought
to you by First National Bank. Let's get started. Remember
FDIIC and Steelers Pro Shop. Get it direct from the
team at shop dot Steelers dot com. Here's Tom Opperman.

Speaker 18 (02:42:10):
The Steelers thought of four and two on the season
thanks to the thirty three to thirty one Thursday night
football loss at the hands of the Cincinnati Bengals. One
silver lining though for the team and the loss, was
the production of the tight ends and the Steelers offense
is passing game. One hundred and forty one of quarterback
Aaron Rodgers two hundred and forty nine passing yards went
to tight ends against Cincy, and all four of Rogers
touchdown passes on the evening were to a tight end.
Johnny Smith and Darnell Washington both caught a touchdown a

(02:42:31):
piece from their quarterback, but it was Pat Fryarmouth who
led the way in the receiving department. He caught five
balls on six targets for a team leading one hundred
and eleven receiving yards, and he also had two touchdowns,
including a sixty eight yard touchdown catch that gave the
Steelers the lead late in the fourth quarter. Friarmuth had
been struggling not only to produce statistically, but just to
see snaps on the field in recent weeks, so this

(02:42:51):
breakout performance of the season was a welcome development for
the team, even if it didn't ultimately result in the victory.
It's likely wide receiver Cavin Austin. The third will be
back for the Hackers on Sunday Night Football this week.
But even if that's the case, hopefully the tight ends
and Friarmouth in particular's production and usage starts.

Speaker 5 (02:43:07):
To become more of a trend. I'm Tom Opperman with
a Steelers report at FNB. We rewrote the

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