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October 21, 2025 • 41 mins
Gene Steratore shares his thoughts on the debatable interception by the Bengals defender on the sideline who took the ball out of DK Metcalf's hands.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Or Pittsburgh shops for appliances.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is WDVE Pittsburgh. Because it's a Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
People will just have cocktails out now and they'll be
a little more like lingering and socializing at every candy stop.
And uh, I always.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Have a beer on Halloween. Now I'm gonna be dressed
this Dominatrix with a beer.

Speaker 5 (00:21):
So I guess I was going to say parents are
drinking every Halloween, but I think they're actually going to
get hammered this one.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, Friday night. It's a good one.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
Because I love the I love the adults who sit
out at the top of their driveway with a cooler
or they have a cider, some kind of beverage to
offer the adults. I don't always indulge, but it's nice
to know that I if I want to pop, I
can get a pop.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
This year, I'm dressing as Aaron Rodgers and I'm handing
out ayahuasca to all the parents when they'll come back. Yeah,
I think it's gonna be fun. And then, uh, there's
a darkness retreat in the backyard if the kids want
to go in there and find some candy.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
And can puke in the cauldron. Whenever.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, there's just smelling salts. There's no candy, that's all
they get to.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
That's too And then they passed right to DK and
then that's also that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Brandy Bellman and the DV Morning.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Was he always ripping the smelling salts on the field,
He's always got him like in his waistband or something
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Wasn't there some sort of legislation out there in the
league or some rule change where that was illegal.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, they didn't pass determined that if you bring your
own it's fine, the league couldn't provide them, which seems
even more weird.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
B y O s S. That's right, it seems more dangerous.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Yeah, it's like, if you bring something we can't check,
it's fine.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Why don't you have a company smelling salt? Lawrence Taylor's
like I had my own smelling salts back in here.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, just chopping rails his knuckle before he went out.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
He didn't even know what the team's name was that
he was playing against. Any of those stories.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
He did no pregame walkthroughs. He wouldn't study a game plan.
He and and sometimes when he was in the meetings
with parcels and they were talking about like Belichick would
be saying what they're gonna do defensively, Lawrence Taylor would
be like, no, no, that's not what's gonna happen. And
he would just say what they're gonna do based around

(02:24):
what he wanted to do, and everyone would be like.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, yeah, let's do that. Sounds good.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Point there, Yeah, he's a monster. Let him rampage. Adam's
got your news. Now, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (02:33):
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Speaker 4 (02:43):
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Speaker 8 (02:46):
All right.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
There was serious frustration for.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Some drivers in the Strip district when the city mistakenly
puts signs on the wrong street blocks warning drivers that
their cars.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Would be towed.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
The sign said that for the rest of the month,
cars parked between twenty second and twenty third will be
towed as the city cruise paint new bike lanes along Pen.
But yesterday cars were towed further up the street, all
the way up to thirty first on Pen.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, all the way to the Bridge.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
D The lanes are being painted after a several months
long battle small business owners in.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
City lot of cars.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Those business owners are super pissed.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
They filed suit to get that to stop because they're like,
it's going to be one lane now and people won't
be able to make deliveries. So if they need to
have deliveries, like trucks are going to stop on Penn
Avenue and just block traffic, and then what if someone
has a heart attack on the other side of that.
Oh yeah, you have to get an emergency vehicle there,
but you can't because someone's getting a bread delivery.

Speaker 8 (03:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
It does sound like they had a hearing last week
and the city scaled it back. I don't know how
much they scaled it back to accommodate those concerns, but
they had some small win in that.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Again, I don't know exactly what it was.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
I know our friends in the Pittsburgh Winder we're very
concerned about. It's like they could just stop them from operating. Yeah, sure,
but I don't know. I hope we can all live together.
I like I like having bike access, and I also
like to have local businesses who spend their entire you know,
wealth on a business to be accommodated as much as possible.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
You have you have you ever been towed? Oh yeah,
district really yep, but right there.

Speaker 8 (04:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Only good thing about it You can walk to the
place where you need to pick it up.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I've also paid the guy as he was putting it
up on his truck.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh really yeah, and I've been it works. Uh yeah,
it depends who the.

Speaker 9 (04:47):
It depends specific.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, like dude, how about if I give you fifty
bucks right now and just drop it? But that was
that was out of here. That was a early two thousands.
It's been a minute. Yeah, I'm avoided getting towed, but
you never know. In the Strip District there's like places
that are they have yellow lines and they're indiscernible now,

(05:10):
and it's like does that mean it's not there anymore?
Not that gets you towed, but it's just like can
I park here? Am I going to get a ticket?

Speaker 8 (05:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Do they care? Are they ticketing people?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Don't they have bigger concerns in the Strip District then
where I park my forerunner?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
But if it says tow, I don't mess around in
the Strip District because I know that that's the easiest place.
They don't have to go anywhere. They just pull out
of the garage. Hawk eyes on the whole way. Yeah,
grab you and your toast.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Where what lot are you guys talking about when you
say that, the where you actually.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Get a toe if it's in the If I remember correctly,
it's in the.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Like low thirties, down near the river.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Okay, yeah, No, I've never been towed down there. I
have been towed with a Christmas tree on my car.
That was depressing, dude, that was Griswalden was I felt
like Clark. I was like, this is sad. Yeah, what
the hell? Double park with a Christmas tree on top
of your car.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Could not paint a better image of the stress of
the holidays than your car getting toed with.

Speaker 10 (06:17):
Wow in Monroeville.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
That really, dude, just picked me up.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
We'll get some wings at Carls and then we'll figure
this whole thing out.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
What was the circumstance of getting towed?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't even remember.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
I just remember being at Carls and waiting for a
buddy of mine to come pick me up to take
me to the tow yard, and just being like, I'm sorry, man, I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Embarrassed, like.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
It's so stupid with a tree on your car, Like
I went out to run the errand to get the tree.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I got the tree.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Did you have presents in the car?

Speaker 8 (06:49):
No?

Speaker 5 (06:49):
All right, well this was that I have had my
car stolen with Christmas presents in the back. Ye remember
it was in front of my house. Yeah, and they
didn't take the present and switch, you know, was insulting.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
He could have done better.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Did they unwrap them and then leave them?

Speaker 5 (07:05):
No, they didn't even unwrap them. I'm like you you're lost, guys.
There was a brand new lo La loopsie doll in there.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
You can't get crank from it, just doesn't.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
I was towed in Texas, which sounds like a wass.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
It sounds like a sounds like a country album.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
And and bulldoze and billings.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
It was like at a wedding, and I guess we
were inside at the wedding and like wherever I parked,
you had to like keep going out and.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Paying and one of those things.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
And then went out and it was all, you know,
all gussied up and everything and went out the car
was gone, and then had to go to find the car.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Axis and they are not nice when you go to
pick up your car.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, I don't think any of them are. They're all miserable.
I got one over on the saw Mill Run Road
one time. I got towed there also. I forgot about
that one.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
And they're like, it's like the junk yard in nothing
but Trouble, Like these are places that exist, but you
junk yard, you don't know exist like this.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know what has been here.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
You know where it is, Crane Avenue where you come
down under that, you know the trestle of death. Yeah,
it's like, don't worry, they'll yield on the other side.
Please yield as soon as you come. If you're coming down,
it's right right or right on the left. I think
they have lots on both sides. But there the junk yard,
nothing but trouble. I just think all junk yards are that.

Speaker 10 (08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
There there's an entire ecosystem going on there that we
don't know anything about.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Ye like maybe some twins that are missing, several strands
of DNA that.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Have been missing. Are you the romanos?

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Well, either way, it sounds like a spokesperson for the
City Ofsburg told Channel eleven. In their permit software it
printed for the wrong blocks and everybody who had their
cars towed will have their vehicles returned it no charge.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Did they close the street yesterday for that ceremony because
it was so packed they were It looked didn't it
didn't It look like they were just completely filled from
they were from sidewalk to sidewalk.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I had a friend down there. She said it was
pretty crowded, hundreds of people.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Did she get to see the mansinis bread?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I know the Batman, the Batman brand. I know you
guys talked about it yesterday.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah, just briefly.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Look valiant effort. I think he probably the effort loved it.
But the way that they put is like like what's
it called? Is it kala or kala bread? Like that's
what it looked like was the chin of Batman. So
it looked like Batman had mumps.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Wrong type two ryabetes, a goiter, you know a few goiters.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
But but you know, the Dark Knight was rise too
much right there, and I just think it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
He got plate got he got played on like this
and then had like a janki loaf of bread given
to him.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know what he could have.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Expected no more Pittsburgh experience than that.

Speaker 9 (10:30):
I want you to tell all your friends about I'm
delicious bread man, NiCl Look, I love Nancini, Like.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh yeah, that is to me.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
What was that bread thing?

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Two hundred pounds or somethings to be like two hundred
pounds four.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Feet by four feet. You don't realize it when you're.

Speaker 8 (10:50):
Looking at it.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
That Batman thing was two hundred punds.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, of bread. What are the characters were on it?
Just Batman and the Batman sign. It was an actual
weight of Batman.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Oh yeah, Michael Keaton's not two hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
They painted it. I don't know if it's edible, is it?
I mean we talked about it.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Edible if you use bread as a canvas unless you
can make it edible, right, Yeah?

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Why they do like black and gold like little PLISTI
sometimes you can eat that.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'd start that thing though.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I mean their pepperoni bread is the best in the world,
and I would eat any Mancini pepperoni bread. I don't
care what they painted on it. Yeah, I'm all over it.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
I trust them, And don't forget about Kelly O's Mancini's toast.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Word doinging coffee, orange juice, freshly squeezed orange juice. Our
overnight guy.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
For so many years, Jack molloy used to do these
Kellyo commercials and that's how he would announce all of
those things, and it actually would sound delicious freshly squeezed
orange juice.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
That place is still packed.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Everything down there packed all the time. On weekends of
a Steelers game before get going through the Strip District,
if the sun is out at all, forget it.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like, I was kind of not thrilled with what went
on with the terminal.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Because it to me, it's like, ah, this is just
gonna be like every other city cookie cutter, same dumb
stores that you can see everywhere else. And the originality
which we were promised was going to be a part
of it. But it's undeniable what it's done for the
vibrancy of the Strip district. It's a little bit of both,

(12:38):
you know, tourist attraction. Now, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Mean every for as much as the character has remained
in certain parts of the Strip District, there's still gonna
want you know, there's still gonna be people that want
to do the cute, colorful walk and get a picture
on a big over sized chair, get a ship shack,
and that's that's fine, a little something for everyone. But

(13:01):
I agree with you, Like I was not pumped to
be like, oh a Sephora cool.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah, there's too many chains in the terminal for my liking.
Like there's the shake Shack, there's a Chipotle, there's a Starbucks.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
But if you spend a million dollars on a Brownstone
that is on Railroad Street or whatever that's called back
the Railroad Ave or whatever, you want to be able
to walk and get all of those things and make
that part of the why you're.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
But again, you know, there's so many different original and
local places to visit in the Strip that it hasn't
completely lost its character.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Now, what I love is when they when they take
an old building and put something new in it, but
keep some of the structure, like the exposed brick and
some of the beams and all that kind of stuff.
Like I don't know if you guys have been to
high Line down in the in the south Side, it's
this old group of factories. There is a brewery there
as well. I think it's Sly Fox, But they've completely

(13:59):
renovated space inside and there's all these new businesses in there.
There's a gym, there's a coffee shop. Right there's a brewery,
and there's an outdoor space, and it's just like this
collection of factories from the early nineteen hundreds where now
you got new businesses and tech companies in there.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
The thing that kind of fluxes me at the moment
is the lack of I mean, Carson Street is a
work in progress right now, and it has always gone
up and down through the years, Like there's always been
ups and downs on Carson Street right down. Right now
it's feeling pretty bleak, and I hope that it bounces

(14:37):
back sooner than later.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
But is it in what regards like just like nuisance
bar or businesses or not.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Blight like places are not open, Like there's not a lot,
there's not as many choices as there used to be,
is what it feels like, at least.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
When I'm driving.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Like I went down on a Friday night at eight o'clock,
which is on the earlier side for sure, but it
was like barren, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's like this doesn't feel right.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's I don't know, I might just be an old
guy who doesn't go there and it gets hopping later.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
No, I think you're actually talking about the balance that
it's it's really hard to strike if you're the South
Side or really any place in the city. Is you're
trying to obviously cater to a younger generation of bar hoppers,
but you can't make it so that older people don't
want to come to that area at all. And so

(15:34):
now it's it seems like a lot of the older
people are just like, nah, just stay in my neighborhood.
I'll just go to my neighborhood haunts.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Well, the neighborhoods are, you know, coming up all over
town too. I mean, that's part of it. It's like
you don't have to go from Dormont to the south
Side when you have all the stuff that's in Dormont now,
you know. But the point I was trying to get
to was that the one area of town that I
just cannot believe is in a constant attraction is Station Square.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And there were.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Times when it was popping, popping, you know, they got
y is it two blow? Honey? Is that the name
of the places down there? That's really good? But the
Grand Concourse is an absolute Gem, the Gandy Dancer. Those
should be enough of a hub right there to make
that pop. And kind of what they're doing at the terminal,
I kind of feel like in the early mid two

(16:22):
thousands they were doing down at the Station Square area
that had Bar Louis, off Heads Baloon, Yeah, all of
those bars where it became a destination place, and I
just wonder what they can do in say again, well,
after a while it just became a place where Pittsburghers
didn't go there.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It was all people from out of town.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, And I wonder if that is what inevitably leads
to like you know, you know, eventually people from Stubenville
stopped coming every Friday and Saturday or Cleveland or wherever else,
you know, because the hotel was right there. And if
you're going to a show or a game, go right
across on the Clipper.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Go to Joe's Crabshack, have a nice meal.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
You know, it's still banging in the Station Square Kiku,
What's play yep has been there thirty years. You know
where the funny bone used to be inside.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Which side because the funny bone has been like three
different the.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
First one all the way over, yeah, is right back
in that behind the all the way up.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
By like where it was Crawford Grill for a minute. Yes,
it was a nightclub. I'm blanket on the nightclub name.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean there was a lot of Chauncey's was there. No,
Chauncey's I thought was at the other end.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Well no, I mean Station Square YEA saying Chauncey's was there,
and then on that and I don't remember it's on
the like where the melting pot is the melting bo
still there.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Closed, right, Yeah, Book at a Beap is gone. Joe's Crabshack.
I think that's gone. Hard rock gone, gone, gone, gone going.
Bar Louis only on the North Shore now, I think.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Yeah, because Bar Loui is no longer uh in the waterfront.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I remember we used to always walk through the one
bar to get the Bar Louis and they'd be like,
we're not We're.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
You kissed them off so bad all the time.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
But that's the thing I mean with the Station Square,
I mean that's been under like foreclosure.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Basically.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
There's other companies that are looking to possibly purchase it.
There is like a Boston company that has been in
talks to buy it for a minute.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't know if you guys saw when you were
at the Dormont Street festival, but on right on Potomac
there's a house that has for their Halloween decoration. They
have gravestones in their yard of all the places in
Pittsburgh that have closed.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
So they have a million headstones and.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
They have like Century three mall and stuff like that.
Like you could do that down in the in the
Station Square matrix.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, Margarita Mama's Sorgans Bar and Grille.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, absolutely to Margarita Mama's hilarious mar What was the
one with the uh with the mechanical bull.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh, that was well.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
They had Rock Jungle, Rock Jungle, and then Rock Jungle
they changed it to whatever that place was, Saddle Ridge
Battle Ridge, and it was just.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Rock Jungle with Hay. They brought in Hay.

Speaker 10 (19:17):
Rock Jungle.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I always thought they were trying to like pull a
lava lounge kind of vibe, like a tiki lounge vibe.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
Slight, No, because at the end of the day, like
the decor only went so far.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
It was like a dollar tree decor.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, and it was really just you're drinking in a
warehouse that was gross. But when we were in our twenties,
who cares? Yeah, right, place used to be packed and
Matrix had like different music in every single room.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Matrix was hilarious.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Now that Matrix is tequila Cowboy is kind of like
that in that it has its cavernous You don't realize
how big it is. There's back rooms hip hop and
it's karaoke bar in the one room.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, Jacob, where do the people your age go? Is
it just all Larryville, Bloomfield, all on that side of town?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, more so that Belvidere's sorry, Belvidere's.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Not really I mean, I know people that go there,
but that's a little younger. I know people that go
there that are my age. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (20:21):
The problem with that place is that it's one of
like the three places in town that charges of cover.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
This isn't New York City, So I don't know that's hilarious. Well,
I don't think they're I think they're doing great business
there though, So no, I get that. It's just like
I don't think people want to pay a cover for
all the people to go.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
You know what's hilarious is that I think that that's
just a new generation, like they just decided like, hey,
we're not paying covers. We grew up paying covers everywhere.
There's a cover everywhere you went.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, I was talking to a buddy outside of Trace
Brewing for the Dve Paul Luke chet Vincent contract and
we're just talking at the door, and people instinctually are
like pulling out their wallets and like money.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
For us, and we're no, dude, We're just having a like.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
But I I feel like I don't run into that.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
So often anymore because there was no or gone.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
But like even in this south Side it was District
nine for a second, it was something that house towards bar.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
No, that was the locker room. Locker room. Yeah, places
topside with that place tiny, it was that. That was
the long and skinny bar, right. It was in the
news quite a bit y.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh yeah, but your your age group never went to
the South Side, Jacob. You guys were never Southsiders or
that is that because you didn't go to college. We did.
But now that we're in our thirties, yeah, not so much.
It's different, all right. Mike pursuita coming in here thirty.
That's the funniest.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
It's like he's called my nephew, Baby James, and he's seven.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, Baby Jacob, Mike pursuita.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
He's got tales of bars that once were on the
South Side where you go see Tony J. Jam Flowan
at the Blue Note and which is now a Primanny's
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Speaker 3 (22:41):
By the way, from nine thirty am on Sunday morning
until one o'clock in the morning on Monday nights.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Now, that's what we got going on.

Speaker 10 (22:48):
To Monday nights. Last night, including a West Coast game
that's too much.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's too much, it's a lot that's not let us up.

Speaker 10 (22:54):
And then it's like you finally catch your breath. It's
Thursday night. What's a bet at halftime in the Seattle game?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
The second one?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
You stayed up that way?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, I had a little interesting day already.

Speaker 10 (23:04):
Sports that are brought to you by Bridgeal Appliance. Cam
Hayward was admittedly quote pissed off unquote in the wake
of Bengals thirty three, Steelers thirty one late Thursday night,
was still somewhat salty yesterday while beginning to turn the
page toward Green Bay.

Speaker 13 (23:21):
I don't think the news really changed. I think, you know,
the game happened Thursday, got the weekend off, but uh,
you know, I'm trying to write the ship on Sunday.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
You guys, I assume we're perceiving that to be a
one off outlier defensive risk.

Speaker 13 (23:36):
Oh, it's got to be. You know, nothing is guaranteed.
You gotta go out there and make the proper adjustments.
We got to play with a better technique.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
Yeah, they gave up more rushing yards to the Bengals,
who are the worst, who were the worst rushing team
in the NFL. I don't I haven't checked out how
far that one hundred and forty two yard effort on
the ground vaulted Cincinnati up the rushing rankings, but more
yards in that game than they had in the previous
two games combined against Minnesota and Cleveland. So it was

(24:07):
out of recent character. The Steelers had been a team
struggling to stop the run early in the season. Felt
like they got Derek Harmon back, they got to Sean
Elliott back, They kind of got things figured out. It
was trending in the right direction, and the bottom fell
out against the Bengals. You heard Heyward talk about technique
that starts up front, where the Steelers were reminded that

(24:29):
when you don't play the way you need to play,
even the worst rushing team in the NFL can have
a day or in this case, a night.

Speaker 13 (24:38):
To be good in this league, you have to you know,
get off blocks, but also maintain your gap. You know,
a couple times we can get a little thirsty, and
you know you pay the price. But you know, communication
has to be stressed from here on out. You know,
in practice, out of it. You know, to prepare for
you know, every situation. So it's it's a process. They

(24:59):
just have to keep growing too thirsty.

Speaker 10 (25:02):
Interesting hearing him till you hear the tone of his
voice there, Right, he's just not happy and shouldn't because
I was a disaster in Cincinnati. But if we rewind
back a year ago, if I had been talking to
Russell Wilson yesterday, he'd be, Oh, we're fine, no problem, baby,
we're gonna run. We got a whole lot in front

(25:23):
of us. It's all still there.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Toxic positivity.

Speaker 10 (25:26):
I like this better.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Doesn't mean it's gonna change anything. At least make me
feel a little better.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Because it denotes awareness, you know what I mean. Like
the other one was like, dude, do you believe what
you're saying right now?

Speaker 10 (25:41):
Because I can't because he's stunk less. Yeah, you know right.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
This is in tune with my philosophy of a crying
baby on an airplane, Like, if you're the parent, you
gotta look upset about it.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
You gotta look real bothered by it, you.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Know, so that everybody around you can see you're not
okay with this crying baby either.

Speaker 10 (25:59):
You don't just tell people who are looking at you funny, Hey,
he's gonna grow up and have a great life if
the president.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Guys don't worry about.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
It, or like a giant eagle and they're like flipping
things off the shelves instead of just merrily going about
your way.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
A peer annoyed. Yeah, yeah, show some interest. Yeah, that's
a good point.

Speaker 10 (26:17):
Uh, the way Cam Hayward saw it, among others, the
Bengals success on the ground just set the table for
their unbelievable success through the air, and the Steelers contributed
mightily to the Bengals being able to run the ball
for a change. You mentioned thirsty second ago. You think
the gap stuff is more guys vacating than being pushed.

Speaker 13 (26:37):
We'll see whereas you know it can don't be righted,
but we got work to do and you know we
got to attack it.

Speaker 10 (26:45):
Yeah, just don't try to make the play that's not
your play. Stay where you're supposed to be.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
And you don't You don't read anything into his answers,
like when you asked him, is that an outlier?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
And he said it's got to be.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
And then you asked him, where you're getting pushed out
of your gaps or are you just vacating your gaps?
And he goes, uh, we'll see. That's not a lot
of conviction that it's going to change.

Speaker 10 (27:10):
Well, I mean, I think the tone he was trying
to set, the point he was trying to make was
they can't just talk about it.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
They can't do it. They got to be about it.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
Now.

Speaker 10 (27:19):
The Bengals offensive line played better in the second half
against Green Bay, but it's still not good. And they
should have dominated up front, and it should have been
third and nine all night and it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
And you saw what happened.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
So tougher challenge this week, but also tens and third thirteen,
so I don't know if it would have mattered. Also,
being at home is an advantage for defenses.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
At least it should be oh yeah, when.

Speaker 10 (27:45):
The offense has to go silent, count it theoretically should
not be as effective.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Early word on the weather here just looking ahead. Looks
like we got good weather coming up, so already should
be not a factor.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Though a little chili.

Speaker 10 (27:59):
Ask Calvin all Instead if he'd be available, and he said,
quote hopefully unquote. Appreciate his brevity, money, I.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Add the quoter, did you huh nod?

Speaker 10 (28:12):
I added the quote in the unquote.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Actually got hurt again. Unquote no, I added to thank you.
He's out with a punctuation.

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Too. Monay night football games. Last night Detroit played Tampa.
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the defensive backs that started the season for the Lions,
but Detroit ran the ball twenty four to nine. Lions
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Speaker 12 (28:55):
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sixty five on the year and in the odd deck
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Speaker 10 (29:07):
They wanted to get one guy on in the ninth
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Speaker 2 (29:10):
It's need one pin Rodney, three up and three down.

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Jay's are in the World Series for the first time
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From the NFL and CBS.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
It's gene Gan.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
S jee Terator.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
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Speaker 8 (31:56):
Good morning everyone, Good morning Gino.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
First we have to ask you about is taking you
back to Thursday night and the Steelers lost to the Bengals.
In retrospect the interception where DJ Turner ripped the ball
from DK metcalf.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Did they get that call right?

Speaker 7 (32:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (32:14):
I think they did get it right.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
I mean it was a frame by frame kind of review.
But I think for him to finish the process of
the catch, right, you've got to have possession two feet
down time to make a football move or a third step.
And I think when I've watched this thing countless times, right,
I mean it's possession one foot. Actually the second foot
just kind of hits the ground. But then as he's
going from that point, the ball comes loose right away.

(32:38):
Then when the defender gets the ball, what I was
looking at too, was okay, it's dk out of bounds
right as this is happening. But that left knee, I
think it was the left knee of the defender. It
hits in bounds when he has possession, and we know
that is you know that's a body part. Now that's
not two feet one kneegue was two feet and then
you flip the flip play tough play for the ref

(33:00):
looked arrest at he kind of just stopped the clock
and he was looking around at everybody like, dude, I.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Don't know what just happened.

Speaker 8 (33:06):
I'm not really.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Sure, but one they let's just stop the clock, everybody,
let's just stop the clock. He send it upstairs. I
don't know what happened, but something crazy happened over here.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
Let him figure it out upstairs, you.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Know, Jean.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Late in that game, after the touchdown passed that Aaron
Rodgers through to Pat Friarmouth when Broderick Jones tackled him,
shouldn't that have been a penalty? I mean, is roughing
the passer roughing the passer no.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Matter even if it's friendly fire. I mean, are we
protecting these guys or aren't we?

Speaker 8 (33:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (33:36):
I think I think he could have fucked blindside block.
I think we might have had like targeting. I'm not
really sure. Like there was a lot of penalties there.
Broger came up from behind, you know, guy doesn't see
him coming, and there was a lot going on there.
And then as a referee, protect the quarterback all the
way to the bench.

Speaker 8 (33:53):
So you know you got to run with him at
that point.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, nothing else.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
The facial expression though, isn't pop enough to look back.
It's like plastic. It's priceless, no doubt.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
Geane.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
You didn't have to watch the Tampa Detroit game last night,
did you.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
I watched bits and pizzas of it, Mike. You know,
in my life, you know, you got to think about
it though, kind of that's my profession. You know, when
a guy that bills houses go home at night and
at dight thirty go, you know, I'm gonna watch.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
You know, d y D.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
I just watch a little Do It Yourself home remodeled. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I am still I'm a fan.

Speaker 8 (34:31):
Of the game, so I did watch a good bit
of it last night.

Speaker 10 (34:34):
Were you a fan of the past to the Tampa
tight end that was called a first down and then
reviewed and then called a first down and then reviewed again,
and you know what, it's not a first down Detroit, Paul.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
You know, that was an interesting whole sequence to me,
because you know when when you do challenge something all
reviewable aspects of a play or you know, or reviewable.
Once you get into that and then the wording of
it kind of perplexed me a little bit, quite honestly,
because he was ruling whether it was a catcher, whether
it wasn't a catch. Okay, well, well it was a catch,

(35:09):
but he also didn't make the line to gain. That
was kind of a blip in the in the in
the process, right because when Hussy goes underneath the hood
there and starts to discuss whether it's a catch or not,
somebody upstairs were hopefully somebody on the field is saying, listen,
not only even need to look at that, this thing's
close to a first down or not. Let's finish it
all at one time. So when you come out, then

(35:31):
you go back.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
Not a good look as far as the process was concerned.
They got it right, you know, but it did kind
of wonky.

Speaker 10 (35:40):
Remember when people actually measured for first downs. They didn't say,
they didn't say, it looks like he's short.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Oh well, I know.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Well I kind of a little bit old too. I
remember when if it was really close, you just pulled
your penalty card out and ran down the line of
games than.

Speaker 8 (35:58):
You know what I mean, you want to get in there.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
They let you know, back in the day, this is
how we did it, not this cartoon animation stuff.

Speaker 8 (36:04):
You know, I didn't even see.

Speaker 10 (36:06):
They just said it's not I mean, you got to
measure that at some point, don't you.

Speaker 8 (36:13):
You don't like you?

Speaker 7 (36:14):
You sound like about twenty five thousand people that I
used to see every Sunday in the middle of the game,
you know, voicing their displeasure and showing a little intensity.

Speaker 8 (36:24):
It was always a beautiful thing for me.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Well, let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Back to the Steelers games, Zach Taylor and the Bengals
challenged a spot on a fourth down.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
They were going to go for it on fourth down.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
And then they looked at it and they're like, now
it's still not a first down, but we marked it wrong.
It's a lot closer to the first down marker than
we had it, but it's still not a first down,
and so they lose the challenge. But my point is,
well he was right, you spotted it wrong because this
could change his play call.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Maybe now he pushed, you know, tush pushes or something.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Shouldn't that enable coach to keep their time out if
they respotted, even if it's not for a first down.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
Well, you change an aspect of the play because of review,
like you said, because we moved it. But you did
challenge that. You felt like he made the first down.
So your challenge to me is I think it's a
first down. Okay, well it was a yard and a
half short on the field. Now it's a half yard
short on the field. But you still lost it. You
asked me, you know, you ask if it was.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
As because he worded it that way to romantics.

Speaker 10 (37:29):
Yeah, you got to word it in the phrase of
a question. Do you know you got it?

Speaker 7 (37:35):
It's like a Jeopardy said, you get over there.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
It's romantics.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
Now, you know, like can you say it again, Zach, Well,
more times say it again?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
You get it?

Speaker 8 (37:43):
Hold it as a question.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
So it's wrong, you know, you know yeah, you just
say I.

Speaker 8 (37:49):
Think they too.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I don't know, you don't see.

Speaker 8 (37:52):
Yeah, last night was.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
A really unique when they challenged I think it was
like five yards short of the line to game and
that was also in the Detroit game. Yeah, and then
they challenged that they felt like and Hussey kind of
announced that, which I thought was weird. You can't challenge
just the spotting of the ball if you think that,
you know, a ten eight yard gain and I think
it was a six yard game. You can't challenge just

(38:14):
where the ball goes. It has to be in relation
to a score or a line to gains. Like, so
they were like five yards short last night and someone
challenged like and Hussey announced, like the rule that you know,
we're challenging the spotting of the balls that relates to
a first ve Like, dude, these five and a half
yards short of the line to game, you know, you
can't really challenge that within reason.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
What if it were for a field goal? What if
it what if the two yards was the difference between
a makeable field goal or not.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
It's a great question, but it's still again, Uh, you know,
you got to go back to how the how the
rule is written. Can challenge spots as it relates to
his scoring play for the line to gain a field
goal is a scoring play pending because we still have
to have it, you know, but it has to be
a cat. But you know, rid, I'm gonna bring that
one up.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
That's a competition committee. We'll take care of that and.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Most buddy, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Last thing a half we you they finally called the
false start on the Philly tush push. Is did Minnesota
unlock the secret? Do you just like get a guy
on all fours sideways in front of the center and
just confuse those big hogs down there?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 8 (39:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (39:26):
You know what, I think we're getting to that place
right where when it finally gets really so so ugly
that really it is an appealing whatsoever.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
And anyway, now okay.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
Well then let's remote on this and get rid of it.
But it looked like they came up with something there
that may be a deterrent to the tush push and
moving forward.

Speaker 8 (39:45):
But time will tell. Time will tell.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Gene Satory brought you by Schneider Downs this morning on
DV e Gino always a pleasure and we got a
big game against Aaron Rodgers former team Green Day Packers
on Sunday Night.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I like the drama on this one.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
I love the jarma on this and this would be
fantastic football.

Speaker 8 (40:06):
And you were not at a bad place.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
A little blipping the screen defensively, it's time for the
defense to pick it up a little bit. But it
felt like the offense is clicking. Like you get a
different feeling now when you know, whenever you get the football,
It's not like it felt maybe years past, where man,
we're just we can't put the ball in the end zone.
They can put the ball in the end zone right now,
you know, So get the rhythm, get on the bicycle.

(40:29):
The defense will show up. You gotta have faith.

Speaker 10 (40:31):
We say years past, I mean like last year and
the year before that.

Speaker 7 (40:35):
Yeah, and the year before that before that. Really the
recent path, the distant pass.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Like yeah, always a pleasure, buddy, Thanks so much, a
great wait talk next week.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
All right, Abby's got your news when we come back.
What are you talking about?

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