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October 21, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mill saw Mill Run Road one time. I got toad
there also. I forgot about that one.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
And they're like, it's like the junk yard in nothing
but trouble, Like these are places that exist, but you
junk yard, you don't know exist like this.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
You know what has been here.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know where it is, Crane Avenue where you come
down under that, you know the trestle of death. Yea,
it's like, don't worry, they'll yield on the other side.
Please yield as soon as you come. If you're coming down,
it's right right or right on the left. I think
they have lots on both sides. But I've been there
the junk yard nothing but trouble. I just think all

(00:40):
junk yards are that there. There's an entire ecosystem going
on there that we don't know anything about.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yep, like maybe some twins that are missing, several strands of.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
DNA that have been missing. Are you the romanos.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
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Speaker 1 (00:59):
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Speaker 5 (01:23):
This hour brought to you by Window Nation. Cloudy chances
for thunderstorms today and it's going to be breezy with
a high of just sixty four. And believe it or not,
we're only a month away from Thanksgiving. There is bad
news there though, if you're thinking about maybe serving a
turkey this year. According to the American Farm Bureau Federation,
America's turkey flock has decreased to the smallest size in

(01:47):
forty years. It's partially due to another resurgence in bird
flu cases AH and also reduced production.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, they're sick and they can't get boners.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Got a bunch of ampotent turkeys running around.

Speaker 6 (02:05):
Turkey blue choe.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Turkey prices are about forty percent higher than they were
just last year, and apparently there aren't any signs that
that will be easing up over the.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
Next five weeks. So I guess the good news.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
If you're willing to pony up, there's gonna be turkey
on the shelves both Butterball and the National.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Bal Could this turkey get a boner? Get to ask
your butcher one.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Can this turkey get a butter ball?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Butter balls?

Speaker 7 (02:35):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
The National Turkey Federation says there will be enough frozen
turkeys for Thanksgiving, but supply tighten up for fresh for
specific time.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I got a little there's I have some Thanksgiving drama
going on right now. My sister called me and she's like, hey,
she has in the last few months.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
And I don't get to see her that much.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I see her like three or four times a year,
you know, yeah, unless you know she started dating somebody.
She's been friends with with this guy for yes, for
fifteen years. They've been friends and circumstances coincided and now
they are a couple. And she's like, and my older
sister met him. She's like, oh my god, he's awesome.
You're gonna love him. I'm so happy for and I'm like,
this is great, this is great news. And she calls

(03:17):
me and she's all excited. She's like, I just want
to let you know and I'm like, I dude, I
heard it.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
She's like, so we're gonna come for Thanksgiving and I'm
like that's great. And she's like and he's got a dog.
I'm like, dogs are welcome. We love dogs. You know,
more dogs better and she's like, well, here's the thing.
So he's like a year in change and he's not fixed.
And I'm like, well, can you get him fixed before Thanksgiving?
Because that was certainly help, you know, And she's like,
butterball's lopped off, that's right. She's like, well, he doesn't

(03:44):
want to get him fixed until he's two. And I'm like, okay,
all right, that's it.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I don't know. And so I'm like, well, so here's
the only thing.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Now, you've described a big dog here that's only a
year and a half, so it's got a lot of
puppy and it's not fixed, and there's going to be
another big male dog in the house and a big
female dog in the house that's already kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Then we got a.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Couple of toddlers that can't be knocked over all right,
also in the house.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
And I'm just like, did you say the breed.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Or is it a mix.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's a mix, but it has burner. Is like it's big. Okay,
so it's a big guy. It's a big guy. And
so I'm like trying to be very like, I want
you to bring your dog. However, like, also, this could
be a disaster. I go, do you want to introduce
the guy to the family and have his dog like

(04:41):
causing dog fights in like we can separate him and stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
But like, you know, no, it's just like.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
She's like, it's gonna be fine. I'm like, I'm sure
it'll be fine. But also, is there an alternative? I
love dogs, but you're describing a potential like stressful situation.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
She's like, it's not gonna bother me.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Bit I go, I get, but it's everybody else, you know,
dog fights happening the whole time while trying to corral toddlers.
Is like, uh yeah, potentially a little of a difficulty.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
She heard none of it. She was just like.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Fine, I'm like okay. And I talked to my brother
and I was like, so I'm gonna get one of
those big dog mits where they bite you. I guess
I'll take yeah, exactly to everyone at the table. We'll
be fine. Don't worry because you know how puppies are

(05:43):
and stuff, and I don't want to like be mad
at the dude, be like I just meet him and
be like, hey, man, like, did you think about leaving
Kujo in the car for Dner?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know what's crazy too, is I told this story
once on the show that it's not just that that
dog will be aggressive, it's that the other dogs will
sense and smell that he still has his testes. Yes,
because I took Juju to a dog park and everybody
rolled up on him immediately, like, and I was like,

(06:15):
what the hell is everybody's problem?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
But they were like, you still got your balls? Man,
must be nice, dude.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
It's jealousy, That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
We all got empty socks this piece.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Boys and then they slash a over balls anymore. Yeah,
very zesty dogs.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, now that's what I'm worried about.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's literally going to be like, you know, your dog
might go nuts wolf sides literally yeah story yeah, the
barks and the jets.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, dude, it's not. I mean I love about a
female dog. Is she fixed? Because that could be?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yes, she is, but she is also a puppy and
she's huge she's a burner also, so all three dogs
have burner and.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
So they're big.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yes, she is crazy, like she's already a handful, So
that's kind of I was trying to point out. I'm like,
I'm trying to be very diplomatic here. I'm not saying
I don't watch your boyfriend's dog come because I love dogs.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
I'm just saying, maybe this particular.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Mix of dogs might be Yeah, let's just wait till
they're all fixed. Maybe, And she's like, nah, it's gonna
be fine. I'm like, you met you, Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
What is the female's demeanor because I've never met him,
saying I've never he's.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Met a burner that had that demeanor.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
This dog is absolutely nuts. She is hilarious. But she's
one of those dogs who are like, you can't catch her.
She doesn't want to go inside, and if you do,
she rolls over on her back and she's like, ah.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Ye, pause her in the air and she's like rolling around.
You can't get me.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
I do that at the end of the night when.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Maybe he does that at the bar, you going, I've
done it, deagway. I'm sure it'll be fine, It'll be
totally fine. But you know, at least we'll have some
like you know, Turkey issues on top of.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
That that'ld be nice.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
And another related item there, if you are thinking of
flying for Thanksgiving, you might want to buy those tickets
sooner rather than later.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Ideally.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
This week there was a travel report from Google that
found that the best prices for Thanksgiving plane tickets tend
to be thirty five days before you want to travel,
which is about now ish. Thanksgiving is thirty seven days off,
but you're probably.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Not looking to fly on the day itself.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
So you can get a decent price up to twenty
four days before you fly. So if you need to
wait another week or two, you're probably fine. Those might
not be the only tickets that you're buying in the
next few weeks, so the best time to book tickets
for Christmas is about fifty one days out, so that
is another thing to consider.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I've told this story every year Thanksgiving. My number one
advice piece of advice for people who are flying for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Give up the Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Just put just punt on Wednesday night, and if you
fly on Thanksgiving morning, it'll be stress free. You walk
right through the airport, you get on your plane, you go,
as long as as you're not going to like the
West coast or something like that.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I because I would go to.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
My sister's in Chicago's frequently in the two thousands, and
I always flew that morning and I would catch like
a nine to thirty flight out of Pittsburgh. I was
at her house by eleven thirty Chicago time, like you know, yeah,
because that.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Flight is nothing and you go back what one hour?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, So I'd be at her house before lunch, yeah,
you know, and then hanging out and seeing everybody's you know,
just kind of getting done with their morning.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
And you'd this Wednesday night and Wednesday nights.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
It is a fun hang, I think on thanksgeting, but
game night, Yeah, it's a fun hang.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
There's no question how you wake up and you're there.
There's that too.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
But the travel that like if you can't get out
of work until the afternoon on that Wednesday and you
have to take a Wednesday afternoon flight, I mean, the
planes trains in automobile scenario is definitely.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
On the table.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
It's possible.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
I sent you guys to the video so you can
check it out.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Axel Rose has kicked and thrown his mic at his
new Guns N' Roses drummer Isaac Carpenter's kit, and stormed
off the stage at a show in Argentina.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
So we now have crash Out Axel back.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
But the band are.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
In the middle of a South American tour and on
Saturday this past weekend they played the second of two
shows in Buenos Aires. But during the show's opener, Welcome
to the Jungle, which they open with that, Axel appeared
to lose his temper and he took it out on
the drum kit. Audio doesn't really help you kind of

(11:06):
visualize this any better. So but after the song's chorus,
he threw his microphone at the kid, He tore off
his jacket, he stormed off the stage. But elsewhere in
the show, and there's kind of like a super cut
the kids.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
That was the first song and he walked off stage.
Yeah got first of all, Ye, he kicks the kick drum,
which stupid correct, However, he looked like de Niro kicking
that guy in the Irishman.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Like little too old.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
He's a little too old to crash out. It's more
like he needs a crash cart, you know what I mean.
Like he looks like he might be going into a
bit of a geriatric tizzy.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yeah, and he's a little off balance.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
He's actually lucky that he didn't tick and then the
back chords, because that is not a good U technique.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, that's it. It's a bad look for him all
the way around. But walking off stage in the middle
of the first song of the night.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
You gotta pace yourself. You gotta get pissed off as
the set goes.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
On, exactly.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
So at some point in the clip, he just like
screams that he's going to try to wing it, but
nobody knows why he was so angry, and he kind
of just like storms off the stage, and that was
kind of it. So he's been apparently mad the last
couple of nights. So I don't know if he's specifically
pissed off at the new drummer or if he was

(12:24):
having sound issues or what's going on.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
But I think even Axel would refrain from embarrassing the
drummer like that, you would think, I think, But maybe
I'm wrong. It seems to be a general overall thing
because Duff and Slash kind of follow him like, yo, whoa, whoa, whoa?
You know, they look like they're trying to mitigate calm

(12:47):
him down.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah, which Bill, did you see all of the hullabaloo
on the Brandy and Monica The Boy is Mind Tour?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
No, he did it.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
They're doing like this tour together, which you know.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Wait, this is twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
We're talking in the in the year of our Lord.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Wow, crick me if I'm wrong. They both had TV shows.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I don't. I don't believe Monica did.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
No, but they had I mean said that, like mlick
their television show. I watched it.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
She had a reality TV show called Monica Still Standing.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Okay, okay, Brandy obviously had a television show, but they
it was.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Called Brandy right.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Right, She's still sitting.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
So they have been doing this The Boy Is Mine tour,
and they did a show in Chicago in which Brandy
left the stage and just never came back.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Well, guess whose boy it is?

Speaker 6 (13:57):
No, I guess Monica in that battle.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Fine and Fault and they never performed Guess which song
they never performed because of that?

Speaker 4 (14:03):
They that is correct, they did.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
They actually bring a boy out on stage and then
they kind of fight over him, like I hope, So
in you know, like theatrically you know, yeah, that would
make sense. Or do they bring like someone out of
the out of the crowd to do that every show,
kind of like Janet Jackson used to do.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Did you see that that video that's gone on.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Still does that with females at his concerts.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Enter at your own risk on that one. Did you
see the video that was going around like the there's
like a collage of guys that Janet Jackson was bringing
up on stage back in the day. And I don't
know if it was rumination toward what it was, but
these guys were like losing their mind, like yeah, they
were risking it all basically because.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
She's putting them on like a torture rack. Oh yeah,
climbing up on top of them.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, and they're like huh And guys were clearly getting
aroused and.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
About to get tim yes, yeah, oh no.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Oh yeah. Usher does that too.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Usher like goes out into the crowd, serenades a woman,
like dances with her.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
He feeds them cherries.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
I think that's how Jeff Jimmer's interesting thing and something I.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
Want, all right, I love them.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Then somebody's lap start riding them.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
And then you know, if it works. He gets the
crowd to saying the rest of it, and he can mac.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Usher is like feeding women cherries in the front row,
and this girl has like a straight up giraffe tongue
and just starts.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Like really tongue dancing all over.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
These you're allergic to cherries, and.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Usher is like, we're going to take a quick intermission
that we'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
To the video you sent the other day, or did
you send them to me?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, Clinton sent me this video of like there's a saxophone,
like an R and B saxophone player playing in an
old folks home, like like retired, and there's like like
an antie who's in there who starts feeling her oats.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
From back, you know, and she's got like a wig
on and she's up front and she's like just starts
moving her finger to the guy like get over here,
get over and she's like, I mean, she's writhing around,
and it's just like this woman became twenty five years
old again just because she heard like the sexy saxophone
R and B the dulcet sound.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Like she's one of the darting her neck.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
We gotta transport her back to her room.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Martha Nutt again, what was the clip that you sent
us a while back? Was it Neil Diamond that like
just straight up kissed that woman?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
He used to do this at every concert, but there
was one. I think that one was in Melbourne. He
brings this woman up and I don't remember what song
he's singing to her. Might be Love on the Rocks.
But dude, first of all, she's way into it and
her head barely gets above the stage, so her chin
is on the stage, like right, that's that's how tall
she is prepared to where he is. He's lame, dude.

(17:17):
He's laying on his side. Now, keep in mind he's
probably forty eight to fifty three at this time. Yeah,
and you know he has like.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Steve burnstyle, like laying down.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah well, yes, yes, soup, but more like if Bob
Pompiani were laying down making out somebody, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, he's like, thank you for putting that image.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Because Bob reminds me of Neil Diamond. I think they're
the same kind of character and.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Steel Diamond, Yeah, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
So so she's singing the lyrics and this this woman's
like holding onto his cheeks and kissing him and he's
like caressing her and stuff and it is straight.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Like on makeout Dude, they are.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Getting it on and he's just on stage with that
glitter shirt. And you know that she got a backstage pass.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Oh yeah, she got a lot more than that.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, he got some badge.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
And there's foot that Jabob Barker totally romancing chicks.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
When the price is right.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
The cattle prod micy.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, with that long mic that had the lavalier at
the end of it.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
The MIC's not the only thing. You know what, who
is that guy?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Richard kiss Richard.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Dawson kissed everybody and uh, he was as creepy as
they come. And when people watch it, you know, it's
funny to me that like this generation can't watch The
American Office without cringing. Now go back, have him watch
some of Richard Dawson kissing women of all ages inappropriately.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Talking to them inappropriately.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
All of America was one okay with it until eventually,
I don't know, there had to be a lawsuit or something.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, now they have not only you know the babes
that show off all the prizes, they have hot dudes
that show off the prizes too on.

Speaker 9 (19:12):
Prices, right, Yeah, I didn't know that equal objective.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I did not know that. That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Drew carre Is probably like hilariously interacting with those guys too.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
Oh I think so.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I just remember, well, Bob Barker had like an affair
with a couple of He got sued by those the
prices right beauties, did he really?

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (19:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, didn't go well for them the showcase showdown at
the end.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
What did they They sued him for an RV.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
One of the prizes that used to give away was
a was a vacation to Cranberry, Pennsylvania to the four
Points Sharton Resort, which was.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
That so fancy? Oh yeah, I that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right when it first opened, it was like yeah, and
we just laughing like that.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I mean starts to Ross Park Mall.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I mean it's nice, you know, it's just not something
you'd think was game show worthy. Yikes, tennis court, swimming pools, cloudy, chants.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Of thunderstorms, breezy today, I have sixty.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Charlie Batchel joined us in the nine o'clock hour, or
rather a forty five and Billi Guardell will join us
in the nine o'clock hour.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Mice got a full sports of port for you when
we come back here on the did you play something
for the answer is always yes. When you build them menu,
you know what, that would make my day so much better.

Speaker 11 (20:45):
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Speaker 4 (20:50):
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Speaker 1 (20:58):
We were talking about the prices right eight models, the
uh Showcase, Showdown, Beauty's or whatever the hell they were called. Well,
Abbey informedoists that they now include dudes. There are guys there,
like hot guys, and one of them. One of the
hot guys is from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Is he a Hawk guy?

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Now he's in the Hawk Eyes too. They have a
lot of guitar players.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, he's played guitar and the Hawkeyes and he's a
hot guy. He's from Mononghala and he went to elizabeth
Ford and Slippery Rock. Former wide receiver at both places,
Devin Goda. According to Gormy, So there's a one of
those dudes is a Pittsburgh guy.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Oh yeah, dude, we are everywhere.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
One dollar And I don't know if you got the message,
but now we're hot.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
You've been away a.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Long time, Lononga Halo hot. All right, good to know, Pittsburgh,
we are everywhere, Mike, what's up?

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Sports?

Speaker 12 (21:52):
Subrought to you by ridgual Applis to Steelers defensive product.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
That might be the next star on the Walk of Fames,
Devin Goda right there.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
At least have him presenting the stars and the next time.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
You do that thing with his hand, you just go
like that from left to right.

Speaker 12 (22:08):
Up forbids next a news star man a Whitehall. Still,
Tho's defensive problems were as obvious as they were abundant
in Last Thursdays thirty three thirty one loss in Cincinnati,
but the offense was likewise culpable in that bungle against
the Bengals after scoring thirty one but also leaving a

(22:30):
number of points on the field.

Speaker 13 (22:33):
Yeah, for sure, I'm obviously what there was. There was
a hold on one of the touchdowns that Jalen score.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
We cut back the.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Killer I think we kicked one push yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 (22:44):
So there's there's always gona be stuff to clean up.
Uh yeah, yeah, which I don't really agree that was
an interception.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
But yeah, obvious there's some things we want to clean up.

Speaker 13 (22:53):
There's always gonna be that, But I think for the
most part, we played a pretty clean game.

Speaker 12 (22:57):
Do you guys look at it just was blind on
what you're doing, or when you see the defense struggle
against Chase to start thinking, hey, we might have to
start putting up thirty.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I mean, yeah, it's a team thing.

Speaker 13 (23:06):
You know, some days we don't have in the defenses
to pick us up, or some days we don't we
have it, we need to pick the defense up. I
think the biggest thing was just you know, making sure
we go out there and executing. Like I said before,
you know, obviously we got the touch push full start
and we got to hold on the jail and touchdown,
so that took off, however many points off the board,
so you know, it's a collective team effort for sure.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (23:26):
Absolutely. I was trying to drive that point home Friday
a little bit. I don't know if it came across,
but you know, how many games did the Bengals lose
last year when they scored in the thirties A ton
a lot? Like you got to score how many you
need to score? Not Oh we got thirty one, this
should be enough to win. Well it wasn't Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, one of those losses was to us. Yeah, they
scored thirty eight, forty four to thirty eight.

Speaker 12 (23:47):
Yeah, a golden opportunity to take control of the AFC
North was lost as a result.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
But tight end Pat fryar Muth.

Speaker 12 (23:54):
That we heard from a moment ago, insisted the Steelers
are looking ahead, not behind, and not very far ahead
at that.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
We're ready to go.

Speaker 13 (24:02):
We're ready focus on Green Bay and yeah, we're just
excited for next week. I think I said earlier in
the last week.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
You know, we were ten and two last year, ten
and three. Last year we dropped last four.

Speaker 13 (24:12):
So I think this year the team's mindset is very
much week to week and I'm not trying to think
of the bigger picture. And still early it's what we ate,
so we'll beat.

Speaker 12 (24:21):
It's probably a good place to keep the mindset week
to week, just focus on the task at hand and
then add them.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Up at the end.

Speaker 12 (24:29):
Yeah, but they did low a cold opportunity to have
a four game lead in the loss column on everybody
in the division.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, Mike.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
You know, when we started the show, I was talking
about the fact that, you know, if someone were to have,
say a bet for over eight and a half wins
for the Steelers this year right now, you need five
more wins and you're looking at that schedule.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
It's tight.

Speaker 12 (24:53):
That's why they call it gambling the hard It's what
makes it great.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
The point not being about the bet much as navigating
the rest of the season could be pretty tough for them,
and I would hate to see this go the same
way as last year.

Speaker 12 (25:07):
But and if they beat Green Bay, we're in here
Monday morning with a completely different narrative, true.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Roller coaster ride.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Indye, green Bay playing Baltimore twice, when Lamar will be back.

Speaker 12 (25:18):
And they were giving up forty a game with Lamar.
I mean, who's the juggernaut other than bo Kansas City.
We talked about that. At the end of last week,
looked like the Chiefs were the Chiefs again. And then
they just blasted the Raiders. We think about three first
downs or something ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
It was a joke like they had thirty first downs.
I think the Raiders had thirty plays total.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, they got to get rid of Pete Carroll, bring
back Gruden again?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
What's Gino Smith? Right?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
He stinks he's They're just terrible. But yet Gino, I mean,
he was serviceable the last couple of years. It was crazy.
A lot of great and a lot of people were
calling for him to come here in this offseason.

Speaker 12 (25:59):
I wouldn't have before this season started that that was
the worst idea.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
In the world, exactly, But that's how quickly guys can
fall off.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
But I also think he would have played better here.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I think he'd have a much better record than he
does with the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
We said the same thing about Justin Fields and even
Russell Wilson earlier. Though thank god, I don't have to
watch Russell Wilson anymore or listen to him. Oh God,
God bless him. The toxic positivity was good in a
very short dose. It was just like we said, man,
it was just the idea that you never knew if
they actually understood how bad things were when they were

(26:32):
bad because of the toxic positivity.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I really loved it in the offseason. That was when
it was at its zenith for me.

Speaker 12 (26:40):
But after you blow a game to the Bengals at home,
probably not the best time to hear it.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, he was trying to give that crap to Cam
Cam get them away from me.

Speaker 12 (26:50):
Oh, by the way, you just lost us overstatement. But
he troubled at the end, totally failed. They need to
get about three first downs for Boswell, Arthur.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Smith, you know, Ryan Tannehill, justin fields, Russell Wilson. That
offense made quarterbacks effective in the NFL, and sometimes maybe
Gino's in a scheme that just does not work for him.

Speaker 12 (27:14):
More Hannibal's elephants, less toush push. Yeah, you know, you're
allowed to just gain a yard by running the fen ball.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, that's why I hated that touch push penalty against
the Bengals because it.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Was just like, just we' were tearing them up in
the running game. What are we doing here?

Speaker 12 (27:32):
And they had a long track record of what like
one successful toush push in the history of the franchise.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 12 (27:40):
Yeah, sometimes they overthink. You see, Uh, Seattle was tearing
up Houston last night driving again and decided to have
Cooper Cup throw a pass, a wide receiver reverse pass,
and I didn't see that picked off. Why do teams
do that, I don't know, but it's not They're getting
two fans exclusive to the Steelers. A lot of these

(28:02):
problems are leg wide what everybody struggles with self imposed. Yeah,
did you see how Brian Flora's offense got chewed up
and spit out by the Eagles on Sunday? It's the Eagles,
I know, but he didn't stop them. Didn't come close. Hm,

(28:25):
three hundred yard pass or two hundred yard receivers wasn't
even just Barkley running it down.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Their things had a lot of injuries. Though they got
a lot of injuries, I got some problems too. Steelers
might have some injuries too, defensively, but they might have
Calvin Austin back. Well good, he said, hopefully he's going
to play. Actually he just said hopefully. I said, Calvin,
what's it look like Sunday night? He said, hopefully party cloudy.

Speaker 12 (28:47):
I assume he met. I assume he meant playing, because
my question was kind of unclear. You talk to him
Mason also, Mason sort of uh interjected. I was interviewing
Pat Fryarmouth, and of course one of the reasons why
friar Muth came back from the witness protection program.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, I had a big game against.

Speaker 12 (29:05):
Rudolph thinks that that may continue to happen because all
of a sudden, Pet Friar Muth looks the part.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
As as soon as he went with the mustache, looked.
Look what happened. Okay, two touchdowns a big game.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
What does that tell you?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
It tells it that the mustache should be here to stay.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, then the whole team should grow mustaches. Yeah, let's
all grow mustaches.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Whatever it takes.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, November, let's make it happen for the Steelers.

Speaker 9 (29:27):
It's gonna be fun week. Packers d line especially. I
think that Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Was not exactly hiding his cards on that one when
he brought them up last.

Speaker 9 (29:40):
Week after the game Thursday night. This is his first
time facing them, right, I believe so. Yeah, he didn't
play them with the Jets, so he didn't play the
first year.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah right, Yeah, that ended poorly? Am I remembering that correctly? Oh?
My god?

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah? In Green Bay?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
No?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
They their fans wanted him gone.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
They were calling him Karen Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Things were different.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I'm telling you, he's settled down and stopped doing the
things that was pissing everybody.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Off, Like the McAfee show.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
That's a big one because it was yank in the wheel.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
It's just a distraction, yes, because anything he says is
going to be headlines.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Right, So now it's just about football, and that nobody's
talk about him. Nobody's not relative to how much they
were before. But I mean he has and you pointed
this out earlier. I mean that performance against the Bengals
pretty damn good.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Oh yeah, it's been pretty damn good all year.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Flacco kind of stole the headlines because he did that,
and it's a new team and he had been discarded
by the Browns and traded in division and Tomlin's comments
about Joe Flacco and then he comes out and plays
out of his damn mind.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
One of one of the best games of his career.
Flaco was.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, Rogers was doing things that I haven't seen him
do as a Steeler. Some of the you know, the scramble, drill,
hold the ball. I mean that's really impressive. The throat
of friar Mouth to put the Steelers up late was incredible.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
That would have been the story.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
That that was the throw of the night.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Surviving Broderick Jones totally.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Too seriously, all that's a big too.

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He had a Knight fleck. I had a better one.

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That's a good by the way, that would be a
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Speaker 4 (31:31):
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I actually like that a good deal.

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Speaker 10 (34:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Much good more than everyone.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
How's everyone doing?

Speaker 4 (34:14):
I mean doing? Okay?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I'm still a little pissed about the way things went
on Thursday night, mostly from a defensive standpoint, and let's
start there. How do you go from looking like you've
shored up the run against Cleveland to taking on the
worst rushing team in the NFL and making the guy
look like Eric Dickerson.

Speaker 10 (34:32):
I think that's the right on point, and I think ultimately,
I think they went into this game underestimating that offensive line.
It looked at statistics, Oh, we can dominate up front.
Let's now disregard all of the details and just the
packages that they were using, especially in their set package.
Those are things that are alarming because you gave up
you know, you look like you were trending in the
right direction, but yet you're giving up the rushing yard.

(34:54):
And that's something that ultimately can happen because we have
it automatically takes us back to last year, especially in
that Baltimore game, when they gave up tw hundred and
ninety nine yards and wasn't able to fix the run defense,
so they got to fix it in a hurry.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Was there one guy in particular or two guys who
didn't do what they did against Cleveland or got moved
around in a way that rendered them unable to stop
them from getting huge gains on first down.

Speaker 10 (35:21):
Yeah, you know, pun into it. You're using that defensive
line front and four linebackers and ultimately that package right
there was the formula that didn't work, and they were
able to gash them every single time. It kept him
on track and they were in third, medium, third and
short opportunities really the whole game. And that's the part
that it was frustrating because now when you get in

(35:41):
that second and medium, everything is on the equation as
it relates to what you want to do offensively, whether
that's taking a shot down the field or just play
possession football. And Black Oak may made that defense pay
for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Well, are you saying that that's a function of the
defense they had called? It is?

Speaker 10 (35:57):
And everything that concerns me because now you put that
performance on film, Now you know Green Bay loves to
run the football. They're going to spread you out, and
now you're essentially going to have that same defensive front
this week. So now they have to prove that they
can stop the run early. If not, it's going to
be a long day for them with the run defense
against Green Bay.

Speaker 12 (36:15):
Charlie, are you surprised they're not playing more press man outside?

Speaker 10 (36:20):
I am because this is you know, noticements. They've been
talked about a lot, and this is why you revamped
your secondary to take on a offensive like Cincinnati, and
they just weren't able to rebound.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
And man, the man was the big.

Speaker 10 (36:33):
Forte of this defense. Coming into it, they felt very comfortable,
but unfortunately, you know, you got to kind of pick
and choose your battles and they didn't want to get
beat over the top. But yet they were giving up
that slant and that's something that really we need to
say slam it probably getting people nightmares because they ran
the slant so many times to perfection in that game.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Of their corners, Charlie, which do you think is the
biggest issue?

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Is slay over the hill?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Is Ramsey giving up big splash or is Porter just
not able to keep his hands off receivers.

Speaker 10 (37:02):
Yeah, it's a combination of everything right now. But you know,
the one thing that I will say, yeah, I was
necessarily go there, this is the fact that they're not
playing together. And I say all of that because this
was that team that form in the back of the
defensive front that was supposed to be the strength of
this team. But they haven't played together consistently and now, okay,
we give them a pal give them the past this week,

(37:24):
but again, let's see if they can correct that. And
a lot of it comes down to the communication issues
in key times and key moments in the game. They're
not all playing the same defensive guys are running Scott free.
I know, we'll look at T. Higgins in that big
pass and he caught over Jayalen Ramsey at the end
of the game, but it was the play before that
they weren't playing the right defense. And here you have
Jamar Chase running free getting him in the field goal position.

(37:46):
So those are things that can be corrected. They just
have to prove it.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
What did you make of Joe Flacco's performance? I mean,
how what did.

Speaker 12 (37:53):
He takes before?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I mean, I mean, he's not much younger than you,
you know what I mean, any went out there and
look like the best quarterback in the league. Is that
just that if you have Jamar Chas and T Higgins,
you can look like Joe Flacco did on Sunday night?
Or was that a real special performance because it seems
to me that I don't know that I've ever seen
him that pinpoint accurate for that much of a game.

Speaker 10 (38:20):
Hey, they make your job a whole heck of a
lot easier. All you got to do is get in
the ball in space and let those guys run. But again,
when you have a guy who would experience as Flaco,
he's learning from the neck up and he's faced the Steelers,
the defense hasn't changed. There's not much that you can
actually change, and people throw that out there. We knew
what they were doing. Ye of course you do, because
we Offensively you can dictate how you want a defense

(38:41):
to lineup at the end of the day. Defensively, as
a coordinator, you put your guys in one on one situation,
whether that's a linebacker on a running back. That's why
we always talk about back on bachers dockers doing training camp.
You have to whip the guy in front of you,
just like the defensive linement. Beat the guy in front
of you, get to the ball carrier. So these type
of things they just have to when they're one on
one battles and they're not doing it consistently.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Well, you bring up that good point I keep seeing
this online is that you know we know what's coming.
They did exactly what they we thought they were gonna
do and this gets translated into a criticism of coach Tomlin.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Are you saying that.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
They're only doing these things because the offensive schemes are
dictating they get back into these predictable defensive formations.

Speaker 10 (39:27):
Yeah, this is this is the you know, the chess
match that you're playing there. You know the protection that
offenses are going to run throughout a course. You just
have to predict at that point when they're going to
run that protection to confuse him to get to the quarterback.
That's the that's the head and flow of the game,
and that's the beauty of watching it and that's why
we all fall in love with it. At the end
of it, it comes down, Hey, I know what you're doing.
You know what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Stop it.

Speaker 10 (39:48):
And that's just what it comes down to. And that's
why I say when I say they're not winning one
on one battles, that's.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Sunday night, Aaron Rodgers taking on his former team. I mean,
another great game for air Aaron Rodgers in Cincinnati this
past Thursday night. What do you like to adc out
of Aaron Rodgers right now?

Speaker 10 (40:08):
Yeah, this guy is playing with a lot of fun
that's for sure, outside of the Roger Jones taple.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Of you know, but when you.

Speaker 10 (40:14):
Get to this point of him just having fun understanding
this situation, that's why you brought him in here. He's
not going to beat you and making those mental mistakes.
This guy has a ton of experience. That's why you
have him here. Of course, now you know, I thought
he would kind of not say too much and kind
of just kind of slide under the waist.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I bringing Rebay in here.

Speaker 10 (40:32):
He knows this game and what's that stake At this
particular point, the reports are coming out this is the
only team that he hasn't beaten. If he beats him,
he has beaten all thirty two teams in his career.
So this is important to him. And I know of
going against a young Jordan Love up there in Green Bay,
this is going to be something that he wants to
make sure on a national stage that tell everybody he
still had this. So I promise you those conversations with

(40:54):
Arthur Smith are going to say, let's open up this offense.
Is I want to score points this week?

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Well, some of those Arthur Smith calls, I mean, they
did illustrate that this offense is progressing. But what did
you make of the sequence in calling there? I thought
that they got away from the run too quick.

Speaker 10 (41:08):
Yeah they did. And you know when they got to
the point of that flee flicker, everybody got the call
except Jalen Warren and that's why Aaron ripped him in
the manner like what are you doing? Because now you
can't you run that play again. You already told me
theygels that hey, we have this in our package this week,
So you eliminated play there. But up until that point, yeah,
they had running game going. So you take that sequence

(41:29):
and then come back on the next first down and
you throw that interception that you were trying to attempt
to throw it that ball down the field of DK.
I know Aaron is going to take the plank, hey
if through the ball, But to me, that was a
poorly designed play because you're bringing a crossing route to
DK and that naturally bring the safety over there that
allowed the easy interception, And I just changed the whole
momentum of the first time.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Sure did, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
We're nearing the next Batch Foundation huge event of course
in the pocket each and every year in November, and
what's the date on it this year.

Speaker 10 (42:02):
Yes, this is going to be Thursday, November to thirteenth,
and we are Leannabe says, it's our annual in the
pocket event for our best of the Batch Foundation and
this raises money for our steam programs on are out
of school time and this is very important time as
kids are getting out of school. So we are excited
about what we have going on. And this is going
to be pulled poker, ping pong and this year we
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(42:24):
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fans get a chance to play against us, and of
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Speaker 4 (42:32):
So it's just going to be exciting.

Speaker 10 (42:34):
So then we are having it at the Distillery Complex
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it's going to be exciting. And again all information is
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November to thirteenth that we are excited to bring this again.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
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Speaker 1 (42:54):
Charlie Batch from the Steelers Audio Network, you can hear
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Speaker 3 (43:01):
Can't wait.

Speaker 10 (43:01):
Hey, all I say is, if they're gonna keep us
up late, just give me something good to talk about.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
All right, shock tags buddy. We'll talk to you soon.

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