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The Internet has played a crucial role in preserving rare
pop culture collaborations like the almost lost duet between.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Madonna and Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
So down was invited Madonna to record vocals on a
track called Shake your Head.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Do you know who Don was is?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yes, okay, he is a well regarded music producer. He's
done a million records that you know. He's currently the
bass player and bandleader for the Wolf Brothers, the Bob
Weird band that travels around and walk the Dinosaur.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Well that's was not was the band yet which is
his his?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I think so okay.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
So the final version of this song, shake your Head,
featured Ozzy Osbourne as well, so you have a very
unexpected collaboration there. But Madonna ultimately did not allow her
vocals to be used in the final version, which led
to Kim Bessinger being hired instead for the release on
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the album, which was called Born to Laugh at Tornadoes.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I have never heard this before. So the band later
remixed this track for.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
A compilation album Now Dance ninety two. Technically, I guess,
but they made it like a techno collaboration. And so
again thanks to the Internet, because like you have these tracks,
you get to now hear the Madonna and Ozzy version,
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So it's like six and a half minutes long.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Let's listen to it all, all of it.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I'm in.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
It doesn't need to be I grabbed a minute of
it for you. You can.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
You can't take anything. You can't dream level less, glass.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Can't.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Baby, you can.
Speaker 8 (03:20):
I like it.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I like the part. I like the odd party.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
I want to see him.
Speaker 9 (03:29):
I have to see him. Why do I feel like
you're doing shorts?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
It sounded like Diary of a madman. Ya, let's go
to them.
Speaker 10 (03:49):
No, it's not right, it's not right, and I faint it.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Like that's it, you get it, you get the points.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
I'm like, it's not right.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I like the Aussie voice Ozzy with abdonough.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
But what that beat like?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
What the beats tough?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
I almost I would kind of it would be interested
interesting to hear it if it was a rock song.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
What that would have sounded like?
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Which, you know, Internet, do your thing, because I mean,
at this point you can mash up anything, right, So
now that those raw like, now that you have that version,
I feel like anybody should be able to take that
and be like, great, let me do.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
The rock version you wanted. M hm, Siri, mash that
up like a girl talk song and make it a
rock song.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Thank you?
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Have you guys?
Speaker 9 (04:34):
Like, are you guys still getting that in your algorithms,
Like it'll be oh Snoop Dogg doing you know, some
hip hop song as if it was a fifties R
and B song.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Not as often, not as often.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
See, I'm getting that a lot.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The Obscure Vinyl account.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think it's called obscure Vinyl and that guy does
all of that stuff like I.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Take my ball, my ball, Yeah, it's yeah. And it's
just like, oh, if it was like a soul trap
for you, No, it's it's it's AI. It's yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
It's been like black Hole Sun is a soul song
or something like that, right, And it sounds amazing because
of course it does.
Speaker 9 (05:21):
If fifty in the Club was a fifties do wop
song and it actually sounds pretty good.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Well, we just did our rating the algorithm segment, and
my challenge in that is there is so much AI
and thank god they're adding watermarks to them now because
I am getting but correct a lot.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Everybody is.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Everybody is got to double check everything. Now, are you
guys getting the one?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And I hate, I hate.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I just found out that the President did not fly
a plane full of feces over American people.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Oh god, I didn't, Thank god, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
I thought it was actually a pretty impressive pilot.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
He can do everything. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
The thing that it keeps hitting my algorithm and I
it's it's actually really pinging something that's making my blood boil.
You're probably seeing all of the remakes of Fred Rogers
and like Tupac together a lot. It's really making me
because I don't want to see somebody do that with
Fred Rogers more than anything.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I think when you do that stuff with Fred Rogers,
you just add onto your afterlife sentence.
Speaker 10 (06:35):
I think so too, Like that is that that should
be like an innately wrong thing to do, Like you
should just know I can't do this.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
I know I knew it was going there.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
Remember, I feel like this was over a year ago
now when I told you guys, I saw Morgan Freeman
dancing with a big fat like just Morgan Freeman with
an absolute dump truck.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I want to be clear, I'm okay with that if
if we can get more of that, I mean, well,
you see one of the platforms.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Just banned the MLK thing, right you, Yeah, that was
really interesting.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Open Ai says that it will prohibit users from generating
artificial intelligence images or videos of Martin Luther King specifically,
and that was after Bernice King called on it to
stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
But so are there to take her doing that, the
doing WWE promos?
Speaker 9 (07:39):
Yeah, I know, but I'm saying, why did it take
a family member calling that out for some entity not
to say, hey, guys, like this is this is not okay.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
But again it shows you, like, oh so you can,
so you're capable of making that judgment call and policing it.
But it's allowed to enter politics.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It's allowed. We can wag the dog, like what are
we doing?
Speaker 9 (08:06):
I think that that should be I think that that
should be illegal on the Internet altogether, using AI likes
like likeness and image of anybody saying something that they
have not said.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Shut that down completely blanket. They could.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
But I think the cat's out of the bag, the
toothpastes out of the tube, and the genie is brushing
its teeth but it isn't right and he's got a
big fat ass. I have a dream done to the
sound of style of Houbas Tank.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
But like you know what I mean, Like there were
people smoking on airplanes at one time, and then we.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Put the paste back in the tube.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I'm with you, like it.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
It's not a lost cause. It's never a lost cause.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
It's not a lost cause because of that story.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
It's because somebody said, hey, like, okay, well you have
to create now a safeguard saying that somebody cannot prompt
your service to be able to put.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
MLK in the engine and make it do X, Y
and z. Okay, we won't. Okay, that was easy, right now?
Don't now? Have it not start a war?
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Can you make it? Make Joe Flacco not as.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Good as he was?
Speaker 7 (09:26):
All right?
Speaker 9 (09:26):
Give me fat Gandhi just for a second. I want
to see Gandhi eating twinkies, like right now, just for one.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Second, like Gandhi battling Joey chestnut gobbling towards that.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
He can't handle it. He can't immediately gets sick.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
You can see them all in his stomach.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Oh god, a walking that of dogs. It's all about
peaceful resistance unless you put ketchup.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
But I really do believe that this is sort of
like the Chinese water torture. The way that they introduced
that technology was like turning babies into like a walking
spaghetti thing, and they were doing the weird thing with
the puppies running over the hill, and you're like, oh
my god, that's how it starts. And it is Will
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Smith eating spaghetti, and now all of a sudden, it's
it's Martin Luther King, yeah, dropping battle raps and and
uh Fred Rogers saying to Tupac like, have you heard
of BofA?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
You know? Stop? But I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Laugh at it. No, I don't want to laugh at
it either.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Sometimes I actually some of the Tupac stuff, Like I
have watched it, and I've also been like, this would
be the most hilarious show on television and I'd watch
it every day.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Also who did this? And I hate them and I
want them to burn in hell?
Speaker 8 (10:51):
All right?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But the thing that I keep going back to in
terms of like allaying fears I have about AI taking
everything over, is that it can only create based on
what has already been created. It can't come up with
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original like the human element is not going to be
replaced because there is no originality in it. And is
also very easy to see how the soul is removed
from every creative endeavor once it goes into AI. They're
hollow and it might not be something that you can quantify,
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but when you watch it or hear it, it's missing
this thing.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Well, yeah, it's the multiplicity, like the Michael Keaton movie.
Each one's gonna get dumber and start drooling on itself.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, then there's no art.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
But how much of our lives has already become that,
you know what I mean, like just from like the
hobby lobbies of the world, like things that look like
they're just sayings printed on a piece of drift wood,
where there's not. It's not an Etsy store, it's not
an artist putting that together. It's them cut and pasting
this sentiment on that thing, putting it in this store
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and it sells. So it's just that they're eating up
more of our space with inauthenticity.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
No question, Yeah, no question, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well joining us right now is one of the foremost
tech experts on the web, and if you listen to
the podcast Macwardosing, you hear him tackle a lot of
these subjects quite often. But of course you know our
friend pft commenter from Macroadosing and pardon my take, he
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Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, good morning, guys. That's what they call me, the
one of the web's foremost tech experts. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I agree right well, because we were talking about AI
and the infiltration of AI into creative endeavors, and what
do you think is the biggest danger that AI poses
for the world of sports?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
All right, So in terms of sports is I think,
you know, our show, your guys' show. At some point,
AI is going to be able to do sports podcasts,
It's going to be able to do radio. I think
Simpson's predicted that back in the nineties with the Cloud
the Congress that have done it again. You guys, You
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guys might be a little smarter than us. I would say,
I would say that your show is more intelligent than
part of my sake our back and listen, listen. This
is a I'm sitting a very low bar for you here,
but I think that it is. I think maybe maybe
you guys fall in the same boat because me and
Big Kat talk about this all the time. We might
be too dumb for AI to take our jobs. Like,
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I don't know that robots will ever have these moments
of what we call idiot jazz where we just yell
at each other for fifteen minutes about what color she is.
I don't think that whatever large language models are being
trained on all these artificial intelligence systems, I don't think
that they understand that sometimes it can be funny and
good content to be just stupid at people on planet Earth.
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So in that sense, I would say, like maybe in
pr is more in danger I think than sports media.
And I guess that's kind of a blanket thing for
sports media because like, sometimes the best things that happen
it doesn't matter if it's our show, if it's your show.
Just across the sports media landscape is when we have
the dumbest takes and the stupidest ideas, and then we
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take those ideas really seriously. So I think maybe there's
like a little degree of Also, an AI system can
never date the most famous woman in the world, so
how good can their ratings be at the end of
the day. That's also a nice little life hack about
a hack to getting a good sports podcast is if
you just have the most famous person in the world
that is dating one of your co stars at the show,
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you're going to get rated. So don't I don't see
I don't. I don't see Sidney Thomas falling in love
with with groc in time soon.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Well now, and you know, you could create an AI
online relationship with one of maybe Tailor's you know co
or like maybe Charlie XCX could be your girlfriend. From
an AI perspective, you could create all kinds of content
and you could use AI to battle Kelsey's.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, I mean we can. I hope that whatever robots
in the future are going back in time and listening
to all the content that we put out. I hope
that they hear us advocating for them, and so then
they go on and they punish all of our enemies.
So yeah, to the future robot overlords, just know I'm
on your side. I'm one of the good ones, one
of the good people, and I will do whatever it takes.
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I will take such good care of you. I'm sounding
like I'm going to start dating an AAI system right now,
but yeah, good care of you AI. I'm a good one.
Just do me a favor and go out there, and
you make sure that Bill Simmons his podcast don't get
uploaded uh on time, just to lay him like two
hours before they come out. I'm on your side.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, A I will hate Bill Simmons, no doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But so let me ask you this, how surprised were
you that Russell Wilson clapped back at Sean Payton yesterday
because that seemed very out of character for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, Russe is feeling a little spicy right now. I
guess he's got more free time on his hands. He's
reading all the he's doing the thing where he's like reading.
He's reading pretty deep into some of these courts. Like, Yeah,
Sean Payton may have taken like a very small shot
at him by saying we were hoping that they wouldn't
make the change to Jackson Dark before they played us,
But I think I think what that tells us is
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things were way worse in Denver than we even thought.
Like Sean Payton, I think he hated Russ, but we
didn't know that it was it was this bad. I
guess like the first day that he went in there,
that Sean Payton got that job, he was like, well, Russ,
we're gonna get rid of your private luxury west wing
of the Tinder Broncos off this year. We're gonna get
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rid of your personal training staff. We're gonna get rid
of your personal film room, all that, you're gonna be
just a normal football player. And I think Russ didn't
really take too kindly to that when it happened. But
I didn't think that it was that bad. But now
I'm going back and I'm thinking about all the stories
that came out about Russ when he was in Denver,
and I'm thinking, yeah, that was probably Sean Payton leaking
everything to the press, and there's some deep stuff going
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on there. I also think that if you Russell Wilson
like you probably can look in the mirror and say, yeah,
Sean Payton's probably right. I think now, like it's why
a coach would rather play against me than against Jackson Dart.
I think he gotta have like a little bit of
self awareness on that one. If you watched Russell play
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this year at all, it's like, yeah, he was probably
the worst quarterback in the unit. Well it's tough to
I don't know if he's the worst quarterback in that city,
but he's the worst quarterback in the NFC this year.
And I think you got to be honest and be like, yeah,
you know, it stinks. It's on said all these things
probably back in the day, but when you're right, you're right.
And Jackson Dart's much better than me right now.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
I didn't want to miss this opportunity to check in
with you, Commanders fan. I know that it was decades
of sadness for you and then last year was pure joy,
and I just wanted to check in where you are
this season.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Thanks. I appreciate the check in. That's that's good being
a good friend for each other.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
We do.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
We got to lift each other up. Yeah, thanks are bad.
Things are really bad right now, and I don't feel good.
I feel like last year may have just been a mirage.
But uh, it's everything's going wrong for us right now.
We can't stay healthy. I don't I don't really put
much of the blame on Jayden at all for how
the team's played this year. I don't think he's played poorly.
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I think he's played He's played pretty good for the
most part. Obviously, that pick fumble against the Bears on
Monday night was kind of a freak play. I don't
think that speaks to like him as a player at all.
I thought he played pretty good against the Cowboys last
week before he got hurt. It's mostly just the injuries
that are starting to pile up that make me sad,
make me think, Okay, maybe this is not going to
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work out the way that I thought it was going
to work out. But there's a lot there's a lot
of stuff that's wrong with that team that doesn't have
anything to do with Jayden, from the wide receiver injuries,
the defense being old and slow, and the problem I
think with the Commanders is we had a very easy
schedule last year. Jayden played awesome last year and we
won a lot of games that were kind of toss
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ups that he just made magic things happen, and we
had a good result with a twelve win season, which
is incredible, and then we won two playoff games against
good teams. So it's not like it was entirely on
the schedule, but what happened was by Jendnt being that
good his rookie year, we just kind of pressed fast
forward through the rebuild and we went into win now mode.
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And it can be good if you can win now
like we did. We did get to the NFC Championship game,
but if you want to build a team, you can't
skip the rebuilding phase and for us. The rebuilding phase
pretty much just been like, let's get a bunch of
bandits and put him out there. Let's get some old vets,
put him on the defensive line, put him at linebacker,
and hope that they're able to We're able to do
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that like a year after years, just get a bunch
of old guys on one or two year contracts and
hope that they play out of their minds for us.
And when they don't, it really exposes Yeah, this team
has been depleted of talent for the last what probably
seven eight years. All the Rivera drafts, you go through
those and you don't see anybody that's still on the
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roster from what Rivera did. It's actually crazy if you
look at his draft track record, and so we don't
have any good, young, homegrown talent outside of you know,
there's a handful of guys that Adam Peters picked up
in the last couple of drafts that are playing really
well for us. But overall the team should not be
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in win now mode. But we were in win now
mode because we had such a great year and a
great quarterback. So that to me is a bigger concern
for the long term future of the Commanders than Jayden
as a quarterback or Jada's help. So I think it'll
get better now in the short term. Immediately, I'm going
through a situation where I planned this year to be
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like an amazing year, like this is the year that
we're going to take that next step, maybe get back
to the NFC Championship, maybe get to the Super Bowl.
I was thinking all of these things, and before the
season started, I got a good buddy, Pat from Hard Factor,
and we grew up together. We're big Redskins Commanders football
team fans, and we go to one Monday night football
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game every year. And this year I was like, you
know what, let's go to Kansas City. Let's see Jaden
Daniels against Patrick Mahomes. This is to be let's treat
ourselves a little bit. So I got I bought us
maybe the most expensive seats that you can get at
Arrowhead Stadium as a birthday presence of my dear good friend,
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and we're flying into Kansas City next Monday to go
see this game. And it's gonna end up being probably
Chiefs winning by thirty points and Jaden is not even
gonna play. And I'm just making this entire trip to
get my teeth kicked in, and it's I'm thinking, I
don't know, from your guy's perspectives as a fan, should
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I should I just sell these tickets and then and
then maybe take that out to like a world Friday
night here in Chicago and go hit all the nice
bars and restaurants that this wonderful city has to offer.
Or do I make that sad trip, the pilgrimage to
Arrowhead and just get destroyed and then fly back bad.
I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You'se situation if you go, in my opinion, because number one,
you're supposed to lose, so everybody sees what you're doing
as magnanimous. You are being a great fan. You're there
knowing that they're going down, but you're going down with
the ship. You are one of the band members on
the Titanic, playing all the to the bitter end.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
You should wear white gloves.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
That's right, And in the off chance that they actually
pull it off, you'll be there and nobody will. Heckily,
it's a no lose situation. You are just seen as
a good guy and a real fan by going.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Okay, I'm sold. I died it like a little bit
of a pet like if.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
You bail and they win. If you bail and they win,
everybody will it will be all over your case. And if
you bail and they lose and you just go out
and spend the money in Chicago and like, just do
it that way, it feels like you're bailing on the team.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
A great point.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
You got to stick with them in their lowest of times.
That gives you cred as a fan.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, you're right. I've been through some low ones before.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Trust that your whole experience.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Really, I've watched some very very depressing Washington football games
over of the course of my years on this planet.
But you're right, I need this is a time where
except raised the week from the chat a little bit
and I think maybe who knows, maybe I'll just I'll
put down there with a singular mission, and that is
to cover a ten and a half point spread there is.
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That's what I'm going to bring home to the city
of Washington, d C. I Am going to go down
there and we are single handed. I'm going to single
handedly make sure that we lose by less than two touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, just take a sign that says let's cover.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, let's cover. Let's call him there for let's cover.
We can do this.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
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Big Neon Kickoff?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Are you doing that this weekend?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
No, I'm going to be in Iowa this weekend. Actually
put punks playing a show there on Friday night. So
I've never I've never been to Iowa City before. I
hear it's an awesome town. I just love all the
big ten towns, so nothing like a good like you know,
college town. It's just built up entirely around the football program.
So I'm pumped to check out Iowa this weekend. Big
Noon is going to be and I believe of uh
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Indian Bloomington this week now. I heard a rumor. I
heard a rumor that that maybe the wash uh not Washington,
but Wisconsin, in their athletic department is not very happy
with certain people at sports and the way they've been talking.
I'm not going to say any names at Barstool that
have have made very public comments regarding the future of
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the football team and the athletic department, and they might
be persona non grata around the Big Noon Kickoff set
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Hey, you know, maybe you should spend some of that
fifty to fifty money on N A L purchases and
you know, really help out the program.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah, I mean, what fifty thousand dollars you can probably
get like a pretty decent backup title. That's what we
talketon football built around is having backup tight ends that
accidentally turn into the best defense events of all times.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Can buy Let's get another pizza.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
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Speaker 5 (26:00):
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Speaker 4 (26:06):
All right, take care of guy.
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about the team they're about to play, and he makes
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the Cleveland Brown sound like the eighty five.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
That's why I always get past that part night. But
the book report.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
He said something yesterday that is absolutely spot on. He
was talking about Packers running back Josh Jacobs and I quote,
I think he's got twenty three rushing touchdowns since they
acquired him.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Last year.
Speaker 11 (26:53):
That's just a staggering number. It really is. It is
a staggering number. And this guy is good to be
a problem. Yeah, teams are gonna try to run on
the Steelers after.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
They'd made Chase Brown look like Jim Brown.
Speaker 11 (27:07):
But the Packers were gonna do it anyway, because that's
what they do with this guy. And he does have
twenty three touchdowns since Green Bay acquired him last year,
He's got eight this year. He had two against Arizona
and he had a calf injury. He was a game
time decision to play against the Cardinals, and he played,
and he only played thirty one snaps fifty five percent.
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Still had two rushing touchdowns, still average four point two
yards per carry on thirteen carries, Still lined up a
wide receiver at times.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
They only threw it to him once again.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
I think they were trying to save him as much
as they could and keep him active the whole game.
He's a threat in the passing game. He's a threat
in the running game. He can run you over, he
can make you miss, he can beat you to the
boundary and turn it up.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
He's going to be a problem, oh good.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
And he's no spring Chicken been in the league while,
but it just.
Speaker 11 (28:03):
Because he was limited against the Cardinals that snapped his
streak of two consecutive games with at least one hundred
and fifty yards from scrimmage and two scores. He still
got the two scores, he just didn't get thee hundred
and fifty yards from scrimmage. And then there's Michael Parsons
on the other side. I mean, there's a lot of
nuances to this matchup, and I'm sure we'll parse those
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out as the week continues, but you don't have to
overthink the Packers Josh Jacobs on offense, Michael Parsons on defense,
and whatever the Arizona Cardinals were thinking by trying to
single block this guy, bad idea. Cardinals need to go
back and look at their process for how they come
up with ways to do things, because they really did
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not handle this appropriately. And three sacks for Parsons, not
only three sacks, but three sacks at critical junctures of
the game. The first one was third and goal from
the Packers eight in the first quarter, Cardinals wind up
kicking a field goal. Second one was third and goal
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from the Packers ten in the fourth quarter. Cardinals end
up kicking a field goal third one, first and ten
from the Green Bay twenty six with thirty two seconds left.
Arizona is driving trying to get the touchdown and steals
the game. Parsons gets his third sack. Now the series
is all left up to they're running out of time
and they're scrambling and they end up turning the ball
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over on downs. In each instance, Michaeh Parsons was single
blocked and they were four men rushes.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I will say that game gives me hope for the
Steelers this weekend because I think the Steelers are better
than the Cardinals.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
With Jacoby present.
Speaker 11 (29:44):
Cardinals are best two and five team in the business.
They find it always are. They find a way to
lose at the end, and.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
That Titans game was just an abomination.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Giants would like a word, okay, Giants.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Giants won time?
Speaker 11 (30:00):
Yeah, how about three times via a walk off field
goal sixteen to fifteen at San Francisco, twenty three to
twenty against Seattle, twenty two to twenty one against Tennessee.
Then they lost by four at Indy and by four
to the to the Packer, and that's their five loss.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
That was that was when San Francisco was fully stocked. Yes,
and that was the Titans game was a complete implosion.
Seattle has turned out to be pretty damn good. Oh yeah,
So the Titans loss is the really bad loss for
them on that list because Indy, that's.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Well, and they were way ahead and they just fumbled
that game away literally if that idiot does not drop
the ball.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
And then there was an interception that was fumbled into
the end zone and resulted.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
In the touchdown. Yeah, that was a crazy point.
Speaker 11 (30:44):
But Arizona was moving the ball on green Bay all day.
But when it be a coach, when it mattered, when
it really mattered, the Packers bucked up.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Fourth quarter, it's twenty twenty.
Speaker 11 (30:57):
They got the goal to go stop him kick a
field goal. Fourth quarter, green Bay was up twenty three
to twenty. Arizona goes forward from his own forty eight
yard line fourth and one, got stuffed on a quarterback
sneak and then the end of the game, Arizona gets
to the green Bay twenty six but can get no further.
So the last three possessions, green Bay's defense was at
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its best and last but not least, Randall the kicker.
Have you heard about this guy's story. Lucas Haversick nine
games for the Rams in twenty twenty three, was ready
to give up football and become a substitute teacher in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I thought he was substitute teacher.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
He was preparing to and Brandon McManus gets hurt for
Green Bay, so he gets a call. He made a
sixty one yard field goal in Arizona, franchise record, franchise record,
sixty one yard field goal. He's four for four on
field goals the last two games.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I don't understand what's going on with kicking.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It's got something beyond the balls being worn in is happening.
I know that that steroids, like steroids just for your leg.
I kind of feel like it's like something that happened
with the golf swing where everybody started hitting bombs, but
you attribute to the driver.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
There's no cleat that that does this, you know, or.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Is there because the technology and some of the tips
of those cleats different.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I don't think so. I mean, there would be no
way you don't.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
There would be a story about it if there were the.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
More resistance the worst Typically it's like it's not like
a golf like. You don't want a plate between your
foot and the ball. That's and you had to have one.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
But it is.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Crazy to me the way these guys are hitting bombs.
And it's not just the pro kickers, the college kickers
are hitting monster few goals.
Speaker 11 (32:52):
I mean, this guy came out of Arizona University of
Arizona in twenty twenty one. He's tried out for everybody
nine games with the Rams. He was right to hang
it up. Packers call bang sixty one yards.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Happens all the time. Happens all the time.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
I mean, the Giants would probably like to call him too.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
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thank you for being on the program.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
Thank you, Hello again everybody.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I understand you're not a fan of the Steelers' performance
this year. I mean, are you, well not defensively, certainly not.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
I mean, they needed to be five and one at
this point, they're four and two. They just lost the
game they obviously should not have. Their defense could not
have possibly have been worse than it was against a
forty year old quarterback who Tomlin pretty much proclaimed he
was scared the death of at his press conference the
week prior. I just don't see that there's much to
like right now about the highest paid defense in football
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just soiling the bad time and again with nobody in
it playing at an elite level. Not one single person
on that defense is playing at an elite level, save
maybe Nick Herbig, who's a backup making a million bucks.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Well, you know, and he didn't play enough last week.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
I used to see that.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I disagree with I'm a big fan of herbig but
one reason he excels is because he's put out there
in abby passwatching situations, i e. In a position to succeed.
So I think he's a probably play a little more,
but maybe not a lot more.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
My problem with Tomlin has always been more of a
personnel issue than an actual schematic issue, because I think
he puts too much trust in the old dog, not
even having a learning a new trick, but still being
really good at the one that they did originally.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
I equated it the other day too.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
He's the kind of guy that takes like one of
those soap dispensers and keeps putting water in it, and
he thinks that the third time that he does it
that it's the soap can still come out as strong,
and it's like you're just getting.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Water out of it, Coach, it doesn't have less than it.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
And he just doesn't adjust. I mean, Jalen Ramsey got
immolated by Jamar Chase. He looks like one of those
monks that pours gasoline over himself. I mean, sixteen catches,
dear God, and he just didn't change. And like Jamar
Chase said afterwards, they did exactly as we expected in
as we were hoping. I'm not sure which half of
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that comment is the bigger insult. It's just and like
there's other stuff like you say it's not person it's
I agree, it's personnel decisions, but the schematics figure in
as well. I think there's support decisions made there because
in point, how in the freak can Roman Wilson not
be out there head of Skeronic and Miller, who are
a couple of guys who have basically proven they can
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barely play in the league. How can you not give
give Wilson a shot? How can Caleb Johnson get nailed
to the bench when rookie running backs all over the
league succeeded well.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I mean, they're not having a problem running the ball
with Gainwell and Jalen Warren though that's the difference in
that argument.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
But you're but you're always allowed to try for better,
and maybe it'd be better.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think they missed on Caleb Johnson. I mean, I
hope not. I leave him.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
That already.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I will use the tomlinism. I'll leave the light on
for him. But just from what we've seen, he goes
down on contact. He doesn't have the drive necessary in
his legs that you'd like to see from a guy
at this stage of the game going into the NFL
part of the You know he has the speed, sure breakaway. Yeah,
that's not how the NFL works. You have to be
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able to break.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Tackle when you stid like Chris Mortensen.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
You gotta break tackles, man, you know.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
Yeah, I mean, Okay, here's the thing. If they're as
good as they think they can be, which they're not,
but I'll play along. If they're as good as they
think they can be, just beat Green Bay at home.
I agree, green based legitimate team, sure a bit, but
you're playing at home. You know you're coming You're coming
off a disappointing watch, but it was. It is a
long week now preparation. Just beat Green Bay at home.
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Just do something to prove you're what you think you are.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I think they are, and that's part of the problem.
That's the This is a barometer game for them.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I don't know that they've had one as accurate as
this one will be in terms of of slotting where
they are in the power rankings, especially.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Against the run mark.
Speaker 9 (39:04):
Because I think that you know, it's understandable with how
scared of Flacco, Tomlin is and how scared of Higgins
and Chase he is. That they completely overlooked the running game.
And I'm not saying that it shouldn't have been overlooked.
It was the worst in the league. That kind of
took them by surprise. They never adjusted. But they don't
have to have that problem with Josh Jacobs because for
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the next two weeks it's the best running backs in
the league.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
That's right, That's right, Bill, No, there's no question about that.
And what part of the Steelers' problem has always been
that they don't see themselves as they really are. That's
where they get the arrogance to come out and not
adjust mid game, even as the Bengals are fricka seeing
them through the air and catching them on the ground
as well. And I'm tired of these elite guys on defense,
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and I'm tired of the way the fans reveer the
so called elite guys on defense. You know, they revere
Tjy Cam Hayward, who have one playoff win between them
and who are not playing at an elite level right now,
who are not justifying their inflated paychecks. They should not
assigned wat to that deal. I said it then, I'll
say it now. They should have made him play the
last year of his deal and then franchised him as needed.
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And if TJ. Watt then has to know an unpleasant moment,
well maybe that's the price you pay for never having
won a playoff game. And I'm tired of people saying,
well what about expected pass rush and double team and
triple team and quadruple team. And I think they showt
him with the taser the one time and like the
individual honors, you know what, I don't even know. I
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said this in my column for the trip. I don't
know how many all pros mean Joe Green made. I
only know that he won four Super Bowls and that's
all I need to know about him, and I'm pretty
sure that's all he wants me to know about him.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Sid passes Mario last night a pretty huge benchmark, And
I am all of a sudden wondering what should I
make of this Penguins team? They get another win, Yeah,
it was a bit of a beliegue in Knucks team
who think that was a fourth straight road game? But
how excited should I be about what Kyle Doubs is
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thrown together for this year.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Well, more excited than the crowd last night, certainly because
it was it was a small house. Uh, you know,
I think it's fool's gold. I think the coach is great, though.
I mean they're winning games systematically. They're choking teams off
by playing the right way, which Suliman talked about but
rarely coaxed them.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
As the.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
Right I don't, honestly, I don't know. I mean, you see,
my worry is that they, like you know, finish like
two points out of the playoffs and get the corresponding
draft pick. I I still maintain it's more important to
get a high draft pick when you have so many
star forwards including Gavin McKenna available in this year's draft,
when you don't have a star forward not really in
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your system. Kindalyn coyven and might be close, but they're not.
But but you know, on the day, I always want
him to win. I'm a fan at heart, so I'm
excited about what's going on. I would like to see
Kindle play with better players before they decide whether or
not to keep him or send him back to junior.
I think Brunick is gonna stay. I think that Sid
should play some with Kendall because developmental is part of
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his job too, to find on exactly what the kid has.
But so far, yeah, I'm pretty impressed, and I don't
want to go past Tang or like Sid got the
mark with Lemieux with the combined total points playoffs in
the regular season, I don't want to overlook Latang getting
six hundred a SIST, which only twenty defensemen have done
in the NHL. That's that's pretty incredible. And you know,
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he's kind of operated in Sid and Gino's wake and
that's probably benefited into some degree. But he's had an
outstanding tenure here in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Was sixty six there last night?
Speaker 4 (42:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
No, he was okay, I think so. But Sid spoke
about Mario being around the team recently.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Has he been hanging around the team.
Speaker 8 (42:57):
He was at a game. Which game was it the opener?
He was at a game with a bunch of friends
from Montreal, him and Natalie, So it was great to
see him. He came to the locker room afterwards. But
last night was almost as good because Will Howard was there.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Well hard yeah, I mean, but he didn't have a
jersey on what's up with that?
Speaker 7 (43:15):
Is he a Blue Jackets fan, a Flyers fan. What's
his problem?
Speaker 8 (43:20):
Oh, if he's a Flyers fan, I think he should
be escorted from the premises. Yeah, I mean, you know, Randall,
I you know, it's funny. It's a mixed bag because
I know what's at stake if they don't get that pick.
But I want them to do good. It really is,
is you know, just tough to on the night. Like
I said, you want him to win. I do think
it's important though, and I think mus is doing a
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great job and it shows Sully should have been gone
years ago. He just got too stale like the other
coach in Tom. But but I still want to see
Kinder play with more better guys. I don't want to
I don't want to see, you know, the Brawsiers guy
with the money shot again last night.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
By the way, I don't want to see.
Speaker 8 (44:00):
Here is the expense of finding out about kids like Kindle.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Don't you think if they do get down to the
stretch and they need to tank some games that they
should just like ceremonially appoint Eddie Johnson coach for the
rest of the season.
Speaker 8 (44:16):
I think it's a shame with Bengotti pass but he
was the coach at eighty three eighty four. And don't
get me wrong, EJ's incompetence, you know that's incompetence is
how they got the draft from you with his absolute.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Competence, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (44:32):
And part of that was Lou Angotti being just the
horrible coach who was out of there the minute they
got Marrio. But here here's here's two of my stories
from back then. Obviously EJ's and I was like a
twenty three year old kid working for UPI and UH.
EJ's biggest move was Roberto Ramono won three games the goalie,
they sent him back down and Vincent Trompway came up
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and lost six out of seven in Gold And the
big game was they lost seven to six in New
Jersey with him and goal If they don't lose that game,
they don't get Lemieux. That would have been the proverbial
four point turnaround. And to make tromblaze indignity complete that summer,
I scored on him in a deck hockey tournament.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Now there's a statue.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
We need the trump like have one down the block
from the Mario statue.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
On Tromblaye and then and then the other one was,
as we know EJ. Who's and by the way, the
Penguins Hall of Famous Saturday, It's gonna be great e J, Scotty,
Kevin Stevens and Ronie Francis. Yeah, and I'm glad you
know EJ and Scotty. They they deserve it. And you know,
while you know, I mean they're they're older gentlemen. But
EJ has never broken Omerta.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
About about never will that's going to that's going on
to the to the great, going to his roots.
Speaker 8 (45:48):
Actually, and uh and and everybody else has they had
that that documentary in Canada, you know, with with you know,
the playing to lose right with and and god he
was alive. He talked Bob Ary. But here was the
closest DD he ever came to breaking the code. I
was a kid. And remember Terry Shipfouer all that might
be before your time ran though it was he was
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the PR director, but back then the PR director you know,
did radio analysis like the jack of all trades type thing, right,
and Shifty was a really good guy. He since passed.
And he hated to lose, hated to lose. And we
would lose games that year in the most spectacular fashions.
Thank god.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
One day we were ahead.
Speaker 8 (46:29):
Of Saint Louis by two with like four minutes left,
and we lost in regulation. Run the elevator that me EJ.
And Shifty happens to be in the elevator and Shifty
is like blowing the gas because we lost, right and
EJ walks over to him and says, Shifty, I don't
think you're looking at the big, uphing picture. And it's
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also worth noting that while drafting Mario was the simplest
thing in the world, EJ got offered so much by
like Montreal, you know, like they offered like Carbonaugh was
a Hall of Famer, the Quebec Nord Deeks offered all
three stats and he brothers and uh and and Ken Shinkle,
the late Ken Shinkle was a Penguins player coaching at
the time of Scott. He was Adam and they shoul
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draft Kirk Muller instead. Oh yeah, what he thought he
was a more complete player.
Speaker 5 (47:20):
Which was probably a nice saying.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
In hinks mind not French. Well know that, I mean,
I'm not saying that flippantly. That's not a lot, you
know what you know what I mean. That's that was
the hockey culture. Sadly in some quarters back then.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
We ran, uh Mark, we were running super long and
it's all been worth it.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
But I do have to make that okay. So that's
Mark Madden.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Mark Michelle is up next with the Electric Lunch and Noon.
Have a great day.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
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Speaker 3 (47:47):
I got him, Tronald, Would you not eat my pants?
Speaker 5 (47:52):
Maronald? W go go ahead.
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Speaker 7 (48:12):
Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 13 (48:14):
During his weekly press conference yesterday, Steelers said coach Mike
Tomlin lamented the Steelers run defense, saying they have to
stop the run more effectively in that doing so is
a building block for them to play good defense. Well,
the job doesn't get any easier this week for the
Steelers run defense, which gave up one hundred and forty
two yards on twenty three carries to the league's worst
rushing attack in Cincinnati last week when the Green Bay
Packers roll into town for Sunday Night football. The Packers
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is a team average one hundred and seventeen yards per
game rushing and are let on the ground by star
running back Josh Jacobs, who has four hundred and fourteen
yards thus far on the season and is coming off
a thirteen carry fifty five yard two touchdown performance against
the Arizona Cardinals last week. Jacobs has had a nose
for the end zone lately for the pack as he
scored two or more rushing touchdowns and three straight games
for the Packers. In fact, since twenty twenty four, Josh
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Jacobs has had the most games in the NFL of
two or more rushing touchdowns with a total of six.
His eight rushing touchdowns on the season is good for
the second most in the NFL, behind only the Colts
Jonathan Taylor, who has ten. Stopping Josh Jacobson dramatically improving
and stopping the run is going to be a key
for the Steelers bouncing back on Sunday Night and getting
the win against a formidable Green Bay Packer outfit.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
On Tom Opperman with the Steelers
Speaker 6 (49:20):
Report for the last forty eight years,