October 27, 2025 • 41 mins
Tim Benz reacts to the Steelers falling apart defensively in the second half last night against the Packers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Penguin's writer Seth Warbaugh had the best tweet of the
night in regards to Tucker Craft's performance. Craft hasn't impacted
the North Shore this much since it bought Hines.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I mean, it's a great line.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It is a great line.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Brutal night for your Pittsburgh Steelers. It looks like the
best tight end that ever played the game. I think
all tight ends who play against the Steelers look like that,
and right now the Steelers are in I don't want
to like get all panicky, but it is only a
few hours after the game, so permit us to be
a little hyperbolic this morning. Free Fall is the word
I'm going to use. It looks like we're in a
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free fall.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Defensively, they can't stop anyone.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Last night they stopped the run and instead they let
Jordan Love throw just lobs up in the air and
wherever they came down, it landed in the arms of
a Green Bay Packer.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Crafts hands ran down the field and probably ended to
Jean Elliott season.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And Elliott I think got pushed off on that, but
his reaction to it was terrible, just like hands up
in the air, Like, oh, I didn't commit a penalty here, Like, yeah,
I mean at that point, tackle bring him down.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Take the penalty. Uh. I think that one ended up
going for fifty eight yards or something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It was just hard to bring down man. He had
a lot of y act last night.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Third and long.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
That was third and long from way back in their territory,
and that was that was the shift in the game
that you just weren't going to come back from. At
that point, the Steelers get embarrassed, quite frankly embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, twenty one points in the fourth quarter is unacceptable,
not if you want to be a top tier defense.
I mean you, I mean, you just can't play a
game like that.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Thirty five to twenty five. And it wasn't that close
a gunm touchdown.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
They missed a ton of field well, they missed at
least two field goals. No, the Steelers, like early in
that game, I tweeted out at eight forty, this game
is already pissing me off because it's just the way
that they were playing, the way that drives were stalling,
the way that they were just missing tackles.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I was like, this is not a good sign. Early
in this game.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
They're going to come unglued, and they did twenty eight
second point like second half points.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, well, Boz is not kicking thirty yard field goals.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They're not marching.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Down that He's kicking fifty six yard field goals, fifty
yardfield goals, forty eight yard field goals, fifty six yard
field goals.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
They're not marching down the field.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And the offense is the best thing they got going
right now, not named Chris Boswell. It's a mess, And
I don't want to be alarmist, and I think too
often people just want to blame Tomlin for things. But
I gotta tell you, I'm gonna blame everything on the uniforms.
Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Those were awful. It was bad.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, the Steelers looked terriable last night, literally and figuratively.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I can't believe we had to look like that in
those ball my ass unifs.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And now we're gonna have to see those highlights for
a long time because that game really ended up being
about Jordan love oh Man twenty passes in.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
A row at one point, like he caught fire.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Passing of the torch.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
In terms of you know, the Green Bay legacy has
happened a few years ago, but that seemed like a
different one. You know, the master against the student, and
the student surpassed teacher because an incredible knight from Jordan
love Well.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And you got to credit the Green Bay Packers defense.
That d line got to the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
In the game, they wore the offensive line down and
I'll say a Malu went out, so that obviously compromised
our ability to protect.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But our jumbo package got compromised.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Their pass rush got home. Ours didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
They controlled the line of scrimmage and that was Ah.
I did not see that coming, honestly, Like Aaron Rodgers
was running for his life a lot. Last night, Steelers
lose thirty five five, and I don't know what happens now.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, what happens now is the best team in football
comes to Towns next.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, this is what I'm saying is they're facing a
gauntlet and it's not going to be easy. And the
Ravens are gonna get Lamar Jackson back or at least
lie about it right up to the game. Yeah, and
with Snoop Hotley, they're at least able to put together
an offense that resembles what they were doing with Lamar,
so they can still win U and you saw that
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this past Sunday against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
All of the Bears kind of gave that one away.
I don't know what to think. I had a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I had a modicum of hope that this might be
a different season. I don't know if this team makes
the playoffs. They're over under on wins was eight and
a half this year. They started off with four winds.
I don't think they're getting there. I don't think they're
getting to nine. I think, honestly, I think this is
the year that Tomlin goes under five hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Because how what was the defense going to get better?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They're only losing people slay not tackling people.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I mean, he's had a rough season.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You know, not guarding people is bad enough, but at
least tackle the guy on his way in the end
zone instead of giving him an old a.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But what a turn this season has taken.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Because I'm old enough to remember two weeks ago when
we were talking about the Steelers being the number one
seed in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, well I look at it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Wow, It's kind of like the Duck Hodges season and
Dublin was our super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
This year.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know, like man, when we went to Phoenix with
Duck that was our super Bowl that year. This year
it was the trip to Ireland in September, and we're
wasting Aaron Rodgers, who's really not at fault for any
of this. No, it's not that we don't have a quarterback.
It's that, first of all, Arthur Smith. I hate his
play calling. I thought the way they came out in
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the second half was terrible, even though they got screwed
on the guy was in the neutral zone.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And they didn't call it there.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Steelers got a couple of calls last year too, but
coming out after you were running the ball and establishing
run in the first half and just throwing it three times.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I get that one of those things.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Was Aaron Rodgers reacting to a very obvious off sides.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But I mean, were they won for ten on third down?
I mean they were abysmal. I mean just the eye test,
it didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Defense held up at first too, because well with the
help of a couple drops, but still, you know, it
was a while before green Bay converted.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
A third down.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, they were getting off the field.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then the second half happened, and that's when the
whole you know, I know, the Manning brothers during the
Manning cast that one night were like, I never did
a halftime adjustment. You just have time to pee and
blah blah blah. Coaches ad just continually through the game.
And if Deshaun Elliott is a lynchpin for your defense
that is the most expensive in the NFL, well then
you did it wrong. And I think that what coach
(06:54):
Tomlin's problem is going to be in facing these critics
this week has more to do with talent evaluation than
actual coaching.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think we miss Minka big time because there's been
a lot of splash in the middle of the field,
a lot of mistackles, Like I really haven't seen Thornhill
make much of an impact. Chuck Clark is a liability,
he's a slay is cooked some reason. Pepers is not
on the field. You know what what does that tell you? Well,
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it tells me he made a few mistakes and they
went away from him for whatever reason, and they just
haven't brought him back. I'm not sure exactly why he's
not out there.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
At least I don't think they don't play players who
give them a better chance to win, you know, like
most of the time it's it's because they're not good
enough and if they're avant on what you're seeing between
Chuck Clark Thornhill running around out there.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Okay, but square these two things for me. You just
said they have a problem with player assessment.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well that is true.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So then you're also saying.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Oh, well, the players that aren't out there aren't good
enough to be out there.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Says who the guys that don't assess play?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He was great, Like, I mean, fair point.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'll talking more about like the actual acquisition and thinking
the guy can do it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Then he gets here and you're like, well, obviously we
were wrong about that.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, I would say the one silver lining out of
last night is Roman Wilson, Like how many times have
we been told mo, he just can't get on the
moving train.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
He stinks he's not good enough to crack the lineup?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Touchdown, big catch last night, Like he's he made an impact.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Why isn't he being used more?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Big first down last night? On top of that touchdown
that was a little bit of a coming up party
for him. Who knows, you know, the NFL is crazy
and the Steelers could go out and beat the Colts
this week culture due to lose.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's what I was saying, is that all you got victory?
Why not? Hey?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Why not us? They an egg.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I I went down to the game to meet a
friend of mine came in from out of town who
I haven't seen in a while, and so I'm like,
all right, I'm reluctantly gonna go meet you for a
couple of years and watch the four o'clock cames, just
because I thought it was going to be a zoo
down there, and.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It was, but in a fun way.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It was like it's just being around that atmosphere on
a beautiful fall day, and it was a lot of fun.
And they were like, is there always as many fans
from the other team here? And I'm like, no, no, no.
And I'll go out and say, you know, I was
throwing out crazy figures last week, saying I thought it
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was going to be like, you know, forty five fifty
five Packers Steelers. It was probably twenty five percent Packers
fans or less, but they got to cheer the whole game.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I don't know if you saw our body.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Matt Light posted he had Packers fans behind him, go
pack Go, cheering the entire game, the entire second half,
and then the Steelers had to actually go to the
silent count at home.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I tried to warn the Packers fans about that at
the tailgate. Probably the most fans from another team that
I've seen. I think in the times that I've been
hosting the tailgate, the three biggest fan bases that I've
seen in there were the forty nine Ers, the Cowboys, Yeah,
and the Packers. And I was saying to them, hey,
(10:09):
I know, you guys got go pack go Tourett's try
to just get it out of your system early in
the game because if you're winning and it's the fourth
quarter and you're doing that, you know, Steeler fans aren't
going to be.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That nice to you, especial if you're up in the
five hundreds. Yeah, but you know when they perform, well,
you can't you can't keep that stuff down.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Nope.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I had a brunch and there were Packers fans that
walked in. But I was like twenty minutes outside.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Of the city and there's Packers fans there. Yeah, and
they look like, you know, exuberant. They had like the
overalls on.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Time.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
So we actually asked them, you know, like how long
are you saying in Pittsburgh. We sent them beers, we
sent them to Irish cities, and like we were just
kind of like, yeah, let's uh.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Poison them. But they said they're actually like dang.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Long enough to go to like the Penguin game tonight.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
But you know, they were like they're a hard fan basically,
even when they beat us for the Super Bowl, it
was kind of like, ah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I can't stay mad at you.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, it's it's not their fault. It's it's our fault.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
It's it's the team's fault for not playing well enough
to keep that enthusiasm to a minimum.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I saw a Steeler fan, uh try to start a
fight with a Packers fan over a chair at a bar,
and the Packers fan was like, oh, no, it's okay,
you can have it, you know, and I was like,
the boy that really was I mean, that could not
have lived up to its billing.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
More. Ye like to see the fans like you.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Don't see the coat on it, and they guys, oh, Mike,
well gosh, I'm really sorry about that, you know, and
He's like, well, you can't hold chairs anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, absolutely, you can't.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I'm like, you wanted to fight him and he wouldn't
even fight you know.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Chee stick.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know if you said there was a perogi
head at the game last night, I don't know if
that that's going to take off.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
They were trying to keep out.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I retweeted your tweet that girl was awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, she made that. It was like cardboard what the
closer I got? I was like, how did you do that?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
That was great?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
She's putting in a lot of craft work.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, craft put in a lot of craft work last
night as he diced up the Steelers for a couple
of touchdowns and the North is garbage football. The Bengals
lost to the Jets late yesterday. Man, Justin Fields, how
does your heart not break for Justin Fields?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I'm happy for him yesterday. That was incredible.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
He curled up in the closet crying this week and
being vulnerant, vulnerable enough to say all that that. That
was like pretty interesting and I wonder if people are
going to be using that against him in the future.
Those are one of those things where I'm like, oh, sure,
like the Steelers wouldn't be all that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I'm likena be crying in a closet that there'd be signed.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I mean could have admitted where That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I was crying clauset justin.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I was crying at my house. We're the very manly room,
a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Of horseheads and deer heads and elk kids on the wall.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It was like Teddy Roosevelt's study.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's where I was a manly room.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Rubbing myself with beef callows ring and cried, yeah, ahead,
a man cry.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But he got the win there, and uh, the Ravens
win over the Browns or I'm sorry over the Bears
and the Browns.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh my lord, the Browns. Browns.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Di it.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Miles Garrett smacking his helmet off of the bench.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You know what, buddy, you don't even get to be mad.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, you don't get you just don't even get to
be mad.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Signed up for you wrote what you wanted in your letter,
and then you signed for more money.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Haha, is all I got to say to him.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And I don't know what he's going to do, but
it seems to me that he's going to try to
figure out a way to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How do you do that? How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Their ownership is terrible, their star player that they back
do it for Miles he is a cancer. And they
can't figure out the quarterback position because Dylan Gabriel stinks.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So that's the AFC North.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
The Ravens have a two and five record, and they
are the odds on favorite to win the AFC North.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
They're two and five and then the odds.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
On favorite because I think that, you know, the writing
is on the wall for Lamar to come back, and
when he comes back, he makes that team go and
everybody else looks terrible.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think everybody missed that story this weekend on the
Ravens too, and they categorize it as some sort of
gambling thing because of the week that happened.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
With miss categorizing his practice status, right.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, And I think what the real story behind that?
And you know a lot of people have said this.
I'm not like breaking any news, but I don't think
it's anything to do with gambling. I agree it's a
bad look, but it's clearly the way that that organization
has continually mishandled Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
They always do.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
They are on the wrong page with him on everything,
on injuries, on contract status. They just can't communicate with him.
And I get that he's a weird dude, but you
got to do better than that. And if you're John Harbaugh,
you cannot stand up there and go, oh, yeah, you
know what, he had a full participation practice today and
then a day later go oh well yeah, no, I
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mean I met he was like he did a lot.
It's like, no, dude, words matter, and you know exactly
what you were saying. And they were trying to put
their full weight on him to get him to play
this weekend, and that just staying who Lamar Jackson is.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
He does not care.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's like, no, I'm I'm gonna play for me and
be healthy and I'm not sacrificing my body because well, yeah,
how many players have you seen on out there in
that similar situation? And then like Baker Mayfield, Coss Baker
Mayfield Cleveland, which.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Oh man, that was the best move he ever could
have made.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Sure did they got another win yesterday?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Michael being in just a little bit, we were kind
of talking as we were filling up our high octane
coffees out there about just what do you make of
this team?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now? You know, people indition them ting well on top.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Now, I don't blame them for being mad Bill and
taking all kinds of unsportsmanlike penalties because they had those
uniforms on it. And you know how it is when
you're a kid and you're wearing something at church you
don't want to wear.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Pants, and then you're like, you got to defend yourself,
but you're.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Right, yeah, I want to poke someone in the eye
to Okay, I get that, But the undisciplined nature from
the big name stars, and I think that was the
first peak at the DK that is problematic and part
of why I think the Steelers didn't want to do
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an experiment with Pickens and DK in the same roster.
Though I think they screwed up royally on that one.
When all said and done, who cares because the locker
room's going to be a mess the way things are
going right now.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And winning cures all ills.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You know, they want to extend him in Dallas as
our buddy Dave Danishek has been all too willing to
remind everyone. So I don't know, man, I think it's
going to be an ugly week in Pittsburgh. I think
Mike Tomlin is going to hear the fire Tomlin chance
louder than he ever has. And I'm having a hard
time disagreeing with the fact that his message is stale.
(17:38):
This is an Andy Reid situation. You know, a lot
of success in Philadelphia ultimately couldn't get it done. After
a lot of years, he had to go somewhere else
to win. It proved he was a great coach. They
brought someone else in and they won with Doug Peterson.
You know, we needed Doug Peterson, a guy who come
in and win with us, and then we fire him.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
In three years.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And then we find our Sirianne. No, that's not gonna
and maybe it's Signetti if.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
We if we would have hired Peterson, we would have
him here for the next seventeen years.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh, we don't fire anybody because, uh, well, you know
since the moon landing, we've had three head coaches.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, well you know, guess what, now we're going to Mars,
so we changed things up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, I think that you're you're only going to see
a change at the head coach position when Art steps down.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
When Ard steps.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Down, it'll be like a mutual maybe tandem retirement or
a soft retirement for Tomlin where he'll go do media
for a year and then come back into coaching if
he wants to.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I mean, he can do whatever he wants. Yeah, I
think you're right about that. All right, Mike is going
to join us year. We got Tim Ben, Jerry d
Rob came with a power hour of Steelers talk on
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come in today. He got really sick this weekend. He's battle.
Last night he was there but he you know, he
was shaking off a fever last night. So unfortunately we
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what does Steeler Nation think right now?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And how are they feeling beyond it? You know, there's
always the reactionary fire Tomlin anytime they lose, and I
just text that to him. I don't call man. What
stage of grief are they in right now? Grieving?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, actively, not excepting. It's just sad.
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Acker fans traveled really well.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
First time in a while. I do use silent count
for a home game.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's a credit to those Packer fans.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh, he's he's helping that soft landing. When all said
and done, that he can go back to Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (22:12):
But uh, I mean that's heresy, right, I mean, that's
that's defeat. I mean they just take over your trap.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Yeah, walking you a trap, Go Pack go. They hung
around long after the final.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
If you travel to Green Bay to watch the Steelers
and they rolled, you'd be there.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
To celebrated the on field interviews, They celebrated the postgame show.
They chanted they took the stadium over their money's worth,
and their team owned the Steelers. Uh, Bill, I think
you said thirty five twenty five. It wasn't that close.
Brandy said that, but yeah, one of you guys said that.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I agreed. Uh.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
The amazing part was the Steelers were leading going into
the fourth quarter. I know, but that game just once
it started spinning out of control, it continued to spin
out of control and there's a stension that permeates. Here's
Mike Tomlin. You know we all have to own it.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Certainly, you start with the schematics, man, because you know
that's the leadership component of it. And certainly we'll be
looking at everything that we're doing, man, because some of
these problems are somewhat repetitive and we're not getting better
fast enough.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
He also talked about personnel, although with a couple potentially
significant injuries.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Significant being Tomlin's word.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Is it related to Isaac Saymalu and Deshaun Elliott. He's
got to torn pack. That offensive line is in trouble.
Your options are limited. This from Cam Cam Hayward to
a group of reporters. This is story one to me.
This is the barmera of how bad it's gotten.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Quote.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
There's not a lot of fight in us right now.
And who among us to watch that game unfold would
argue in the second half is it? You know there
was one guy fighting, a couple guys fighting at the
end of the game, Aaron Rodgers and maybe Roman Wilson.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Mm hmm. After ten days off and you got your
ass kicked.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
They just took it, gave started going bad and some
and they just took it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That lob up to Tucker Craft that played Elliott got
hurt on incredible That's that was the turning point. It
was just all over after that. If you get a
defensive stop there deep in their territory.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
That was third and five from the Green Bay fifteen.
He got hit as he Suckerman blitzed. Patrick Queen is
right in his face. He just threw it down the
middle of the field. It was end over end and
Deshaun Elliott, you got hurt on the play. That's really unfortunate,
but that's a one on one contested ball.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
He also got pushed.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
He did push back.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, don't throw your hands up in the early I
didn't do anything. For God's sake. Misplayed that and then
they got down to score.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Steelers after that, go down and at least kick a
field goal, although they had a penetration in the Green
Bay territory. Then drive got away from Okay, it happens
nineteen fourteen. Then he had another heave down the middle
of the field and somehow Christian Watson. This one at
least was less of a desperation play, but it was
a he threw it up there for grabs and Christian
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Thornhill misplayed that grabbed it between want Thornhill and Brandon Echols.
They got out and get another touchdown. Then the Steelers
not only fail on offense, but punt the ball and
Nick Herbig gets a fifteen yard penal. League, don't tell
me you're defending your teammate. It's a tight game in
the fourth quarter. You can't take a fifteen yard penalty
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and set them up at your forty five yard line
for a short field touchdown drive.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Just one thing after another.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Offense, defense, special teams collapse and no pushback.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Nobody drawn a line in sand saying enough of this.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Bleep other than that, missus Lincoln. How was the play.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Bad as I've seen it? You know, I'd have to
really think on it a while to think when it
was just bad before.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
TJ Watt cam.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
These are guys I expect to be trying to like,
fire this team up and take over the messaging.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And I'm not sure if they.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Believe in this team enough to even be doing that.
That second half, terrible penalty after terrible penalty, just an
absolute mental and physical collapse. And also slay letting Williams
walk into the end zone. I'm not letting go of
that because if this is a historic defense, you don't
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let someone walk into the end zone uncontested.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Well, one of the problems with it, and I don't
know that just came up in the post game, but
they are their state of confidence in their players is
such that Slay comes out now when they think it's
a passing down, and Chuck Clark comes out when they
think it's a passing guy, and they put Thornhill in
and Holkom goes in when they think it's a running down,
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and they take Peyton Wilson about and we're back to this. Well,
this guy can do this, but not that garbage. And
you know the funny thing about that is the offenses
don't always cooperate. When you ever guys they can stop
the pass, sometimes they run the ball, and then when
you have your guys and they can run the ball,
sometimes they pass. And that's all you have to get
guys that can do both.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, if we can see that from the five hundred section,
I'm thinking that the best coordinators in.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
The league you're gonna guess wrong eventually and get burned.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
And this is my issue with Tomlin. I think Tomlin
and Bill you said it in the break he's a
leader of men, but coordinating Italian talent evaluation not so good,
especially the talent talent evaluation aspect.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
And I think that's a you know, that speaks to
a lot of people. General manager of the Scouts.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, No, I'm not saying it's only Mike Tomlin. I'm
saying the organizationally, they've got a big issue.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's problem one to me right now.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
And I mean it's not like that's going to get
fixed before the Colts get here.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
They've assembled a bad team. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
And th best thing I got gold for him is
the quarterback Yeah, which.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I kind of lucked into because the Jets mangled it
so bad. But and that was the guy I was like,
don't sign him.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
They offered fields, but you know, not a lot, and
looked at some other guys they kind of.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I mean, I love the way that Rogers has been playing,
but I don't think he's good enough to compensate for
the team around him.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
No, he's certainly not playing at his MVP level. Well,
I don't know that he gets the platform to do it.
I mean, they don't set him up for what he does.
I mean he was never a super mobile quarterback, not
like he wasn't a running quarterback, that has to say.
And this offense would need somebody who can take off
when everything goes bad, because it goes bad a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Metcalf comes down with a ball in the end zone
he's supposed to catch because they're paying him one hundred
and sixty million instead of kicking off fifty yard wheel
go there or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
No, I mean I didn't. They played by the defender there.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
The protection to me was not a real problem until
the late as the wheels started coming off everywhere else
hurt and you're getting in obvious passing situations and you know.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, Mike, what were they on third down? Because just
one for ten? Yeah, I mean it was good, abysmal.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
How'd they make one?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Well?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know, if there's anybody who can look at this
and make lemons lemonade out of these lemons, it's Tim Benz.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I mean, oh yeah, this is a guy who's positivity
give you the rosiest scenario here. Jerry d a little
bit later on this morning, and Rob came with a
sour hour of Steeler talking at the nine o'clock hour
and Abbey's and news coming up at the top.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
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Speaker 3 (30:31):
Oh right, those are the throwback Steelers.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
They sucked, They were not good. They were called the Pirates.
It all makes sense, doesn't it. Yes, only more years
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Speaker 1 (30:43):
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Speaker 2 (30:47):
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Speaker 1 (30:49):
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Speaker 2 (30:55):
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Speaker 8 (30:56):
Yeah, A blender to make as much alcoholic drinks as
you passed it.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
It's gonna say, a garbage disposabal.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
We have nothing left, all right? Where do you start?
You're right?
Speaker 8 (31:11):
I am playing. I am playing to make lemonade out
of this, I'm just gonna add lots and lots of vodka.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
So yeah, well you need it to just endure that
absolute craft show. The second half really I think revealed
the identity of this team right now and craft show
I think, which yes, indeed, Well there wasn't one single
thing that bothered me if there were plenty. And how
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does Mike Tomlin approach dealing with Indy coming in this
week after his team quit on him in the second half? Oh,
I think you've got the blender on your phone. I
start all over, Go ahead, we got you now.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
I was gonna say, it's not like Indy has a
good running back or a good tight end or a
hot quarterback or anything like that right now, right the
way Taylor was running, or the draft choice of Warren
and how that's working out, I don't know how it
fixes it. In fact, when I was sitting there in
the press conference with him last night, it struck me
that he was having one of those moments of realization
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where it's no longer about trying to deny the media
narratives about the team, and it's more about trying to
figure out his own moment of realization that he doesn't
have the answers because there are no answers. The scheme
doesn't work, the players don't work. It's all bad on
that side of the ball. Think about how much worse
it would have been if the kicker for the Packers
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could kick like Chris Boswell can. That game takes on
a totally different tone at that point.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
Tim I thought the same thing. I'm listening upstairs waiting
to go on the post game show, and I couldn't
believe how long it went, how engaging Tomlin was, even
though the question started getting a little repetitive and there
was an eerie calm in his voice. The way he
was delivering his answers, it was like, Wow, what you
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guys saw? What the hell am I gonna do about it?
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Like, you know one thing, Mike, I think a lot
of us, you and I have talked about this. A
lot of folks who have covered Tomlin for most of it,
if not all, of his tenure, have picked up on it,
especially as the years have gone along. The longer he's
been here, the more defiant he is of any questions
when they're winning, and the more accepting he is of
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them when they're losing. He doesn't want to make it
look like he's pushing back when things go bad, because
I think when they've gone bad in recent years, they
go bad dramatically, like five game losing streaks, or you know,
seven to two and one to nine, six and one
and out of the playoffs, or losing your last three
games in twenty nineteen to miss the playoffs. It's like
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he knows the more he pushes back, even if he
feels like it, even if it's against his instinct, the
worse it is for him, as if it could get
worse right now, because the frustration level is so high.
And I don't think this is like you guys were
talking during the sportscast, sort of a knee jerk reaction.
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I heard somebody mention where people are saying, fire Tom
on fire Tom. It's not knee jerk. This is just
to carry over what's been going on the last eight years.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yep, all right, So we wanted to get a number
two wide receiver before the trade deadline. Has that changed
given what looks like a pretty severe injury with the
Shawn Elliott and the secondary's complete collapse. The defensive line
looked adequate against the run last night and seemed to
keep Jacobs somewhat in check. But the secondary they were
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giving up. Just just jump oflls. No, it usually gets
two rushing touchdowns, only go one. Yeah, that's right, steps,
that's pretty good.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
Yeah. I don't know if the agenda changes, And frankly,
I don't know who's really available out there in the
secondary to get particularly at safety. You know they're looking
before and the best they came up with was Peppers,
So I don't know what's out there, and I don't
think one should change the other. Like, if they can
get a good safety, get a good safety. But if
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Rashid Shahik can still be had for a third or
fourth round pick, get that too, because you need it.
Because it's not like they can wave the white flag
and not try and not give up picks or trade
their own guys. Like they're not in that mode. They're
still in first place and the rest of the division
is so bad you have to keep trying. You have
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to keep looking to add I think.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, I mean the offensive line might be in flux
with the same olo injury as well.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
If that's a torn peck, probably just turn for a
guard of safety and wide receiver, that's all you said.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Historically, Well, you know that there always is changing guys.
That always happens.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
I do think there's something to it, though in the
sense that.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You I don't think.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
They're in the mode right now of Hey, there's going
to be seven quarterbacks available, let's trade up from the
middle of the pack to at least get one in
the first round. I think that whole thing has taken
on a new complexion now based on how the college
quarterbacks have gone. So maybe this I know, losing their
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way up the draft board. But yeah, I still think
this division is going to keep them afloat. I mean,
look at how it performed again yesterday, and I get it.
The Ravens did win without Lamar and they probably went
to the right back up quarterback for how they play.
But I don't know. I don't know if they can
lose their way out of being in first place in
this division so quickly. I guess they can. Like you said,
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the next couple of games are very difficult. I'm just
thinking about what Jonathan Taylor is going to do to
that defense when they're concerned about trying to cover the
tight end, and what Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Is going to do.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
I feel like Taylor could have a huge day against them.
This is supposed to be the bounce back game Prime Time,
the whole Rogers thing, and it didn't happen.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
Now, I just think they're a lesser team going up
against a better team, the best team in football so
far this year, best record, best point differential. It sounds
weird saying that about the Colts, who you know some
I didn't even think they're gonna make the playoffs. I
didn't think they're gonna win that division. And now everything
is clicking on all cylinders. And that's a coach that's
beating Tomlin twice now as a head coach and once
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is an offensive coordinator, and Stiching one he's back with
the Eagles, So this is this is a bad matchup
on a lot of fronts. And then you get the
Chargers after that at five and three, and then Flacco
comes back in. You know you can't beat him. Everybody
knows that you can't beat kill Black though, So yeah,
they might be in significant trouble.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
You kind of tipped right into my question, Tim because
I know that this only counts as one loss, but
it felt bigger than that. Given the time they had
off and the Rogers angle and you're playing in prime
time to come out and lay an egg in that
that scenario just foretells of disaster down the stretch for
the gauntlet you just described.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Speaking of that, it's not like we can let the
offense entirely off the hook. I thought last week maybe
I was looking for angles to talk about what the
offense didn't do as well, just because I wanted to
be fair and balanced, like I didn't just want to
go after the defense one hundred percent entirely. I think
I wrote somewhere last week it was ninety percent about
the defense. This is a little bit more of a
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split because of how I think the offense performed in
the first half. I used the phrase taking on a
different complexion. That game takes on a much different complexion.
If the offense finishes those drives in the first half,
when the defense was at least holding up and the
kicker was missing kicks for Green Bay. If the Steelers
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finished those drives instead of relying on Boz to hit
fifty yarders all the time, then you got a different
tone going into halftime. And Brett Michaels is up there
singing nothing but a good time, and instead you're you're
you're looking for something to believe in.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So you know, I forgot did have?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Oh yeah, we were up, We were up.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Well look you know throw you know, at least in
the offenses favor. They were able to get the ball
to Spencer Anderson. And I've been saying, if you want
to if you want to win, on.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
The first drive, they pulled out all their tricks on
the first drive.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
If that was a trick so much, it was just like,
what are we doing here? All right?
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Now?
Speaker 7 (39:34):
I just wanted them to know they can do that. Yeah,
so they could run more easily.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
And they love that look. And now they might not
be able to use it as much because Anderson has
to play for Siamalo for as long as he's out.
So they love that extra lineman. Now, who's going to
be the extra lineman?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
We could trade for one, Tim Benz brought to you.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
We have another Anderson, don't we? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, well you know, uh, Calvin, we have Calvin, We've
Swisser and uh I think we have Elroy, I'm not sure.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Yeah, yeah Anderson.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, well let's just shoot up fishman. I think I
think we all agree. That'll that'll fix thought he was
playing safety.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Lesson benzis brought to you by fishman Don's Appliances this morning, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Tim Well get big place.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
You got a guy.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
All right, man, we'll see it.
Speaker 9 (40:27):
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Speaker 3 (40:38):
Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 12 (40:40):
The Steelers fell to four and three on the season
with a thirty five to twenty five defeet at the
hands of the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night Football.
The Steelers held the lead at halftime sixteen to seven,
but a twenty eight point second half explosion by the
Packers offense helped rally the Packers back to get the victory.
Scarheading the strong offensive performance was quarterback Jordan Love and
tight end Tucker Craft. Love, who at one point game
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strung together twenty straight pass completions, finished twenty nine of
thirty seven for three hundred and sixty yards and three
passing touchdowns. Craft was certainly his favorite target on the night.
He was targeted nine times by Love, converting seven into
catches for one hundred and forty three yards and getting
into the end zone twice. The Steelers struggled throughout the
game to find an answer to Craft in the Green
Bay passing attack, and their defense has now gone three
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straight games without forcing a turnover. On top of that,
Sunday night was the fourth instance of the season that
the team surrendered thirty plus points in a game. Aaron
Rodgers turned into decent performance in his first meeting against
his former team, throwing for two hundred and nineteen yards
and two touchdowns, but it ultimately proved to be not
enough to pull out the victory. Things won't get any
easier for the Steelers next week, as the Indianapolis Colts
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bring their league best seven to one record into town.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I'm Tom Opfermann with the Steelers Report.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
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Speaker 1 (41:49):
We rewrote the rules of banking and made getting everything
you need a whole lot easier experience, though one of
a kind,
Penguin's writer Seth Warbaugh had the best tweet of the
night in regards to Tucker Craft's performance. Craft hasn't impacted
the North Shore this much since it bought Hines.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I mean, it's a great line.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It is a great line.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Brutal night for your Pittsburgh Steelers. It looks like the
best tight end that ever played the game. I think
all tight ends who play against the Steelers look like that,
and right now the Steelers are in I don't want
to like get all panicky, but it is only a
few hours after the game, so permit us to be
a little hyperbolic this morning. Free Fall is the word
I'm going to use. It looks like we're in a
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free fall.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Defensively, they can't stop anyone.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Last night they stopped the run and instead they let
Jordan Love throw just lobs up in the air and
wherever they came down, it landed in the arms of
a Green Bay Packer.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Crafts hands ran down the field and probably ended to
Jean Elliott season.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And Elliott I think got pushed off on that, but
his reaction to it was terrible, just like hands up
in the air, Like, oh, I didn't commit a penalty here, Like, yeah,
I mean at that point, tackle bring him down.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Take the penalty. Uh. I think that one ended up
going for fifty eight yards or something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It was just hard to bring down man. He had
a lot of y act last night.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Third and long.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
That was third and long from way back in their territory,
and that was that was the shift in the game
that you just weren't going to come back from. At
that point, the Steelers get embarrassed, quite frankly embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, twenty one points in the fourth quarter is unacceptable,
not if you want to be a top tier defense.
I mean you, I mean, you just can't play a
game like that.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Thirty five to twenty five. And it wasn't that close
a gunm touchdown.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
They missed a ton of field well, they missed at
least two field goals. No, the Steelers, like early in
that game, I tweeted out at eight forty, this game
is already pissing me off because it's just the way
that they were playing, the way that drives were stalling,
the way that they were just missing tackles.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I was like, this is not a good sign. Early
in this game.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
They're going to come unglued, and they did twenty eight
second point like second half points.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, well, Boz is not kicking thirty yard field goals.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They're not marching.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Down that He's kicking fifty six yard field goals, fifty
yardfield goals, forty eight yard field goals, fifty six yard
field goals.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
They're not marching down the field.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And the offense is the best thing they got going
right now, not named Chris Boswell. It's a mess, And
I don't want to be alarmist, and I think too
often people just want to blame Tomlin for things. But
I gotta tell you, I'm gonna blame everything on the uniforms.
Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Those were awful. It was bad.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, the Steelers looked terriable last night, literally and figuratively.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I can't believe we had to look like that in
those ball my ass unifs.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And now we're gonna have to see those highlights for
a long time because that game really ended up being
about Jordan love oh Man twenty passes in.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
A row at one point, like he caught fire.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Passing of the torch.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
In terms of you know, the Green Bay legacy has
happened a few years ago, but that seemed like a
different one. You know, the master against the student, and
the student surpassed teacher because an incredible knight from Jordan
love Well.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And you got to credit the Green Bay Packers defense.
That d line got to the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
In the game, they wore the offensive line down and
I'll say a Malu went out, so that obviously compromised
our ability to protect.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But our jumbo package got compromised.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Their pass rush got home. Ours didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
They controlled the line of scrimmage and that was Ah.
I did not see that coming, honestly, Like Aaron Rodgers
was running for his life a lot. Last night, Steelers
lose thirty five five, and I don't know what happens now.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, what happens now is the best team in football
comes to Towns next.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, this is what I'm saying is they're facing a
gauntlet and it's not going to be easy. And the
Ravens are gonna get Lamar Jackson back or at least
lie about it right up to the game. Yeah, and
with Snoop Hotley, they're at least able to put together
an offense that resembles what they were doing with Lamar,
so they can still win U and you saw that
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this past Sunday against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
All of the Bears kind of gave that one away.
I don't know what to think. I had a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I had a modicum of hope that this might be
a different season. I don't know if this team makes
the playoffs. They're over under on wins was eight and
a half this year. They started off with four winds.
I don't think they're getting there. I don't think they're
getting to nine. I think, honestly, I think this is
the year that Tomlin goes under five hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Because how what was the defense going to get better?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They're only losing people slay not tackling people.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I mean, he's had a rough season.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You know, not guarding people is bad enough, but at
least tackle the guy on his way in the end
zone instead of giving him an old a.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But what a turn this season has taken.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Because I'm old enough to remember two weeks ago when
we were talking about the Steelers being the number one
seed in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, well I look at it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Wow, It's kind of like the Duck Hodges season and
Dublin was our super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
This year.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know, like man, when we went to Phoenix with
Duck that was our super Bowl that year. This year
it was the trip to Ireland in September, and we're
wasting Aaron Rodgers, who's really not at fault for any
of this. No, it's not that we don't have a quarterback.
It's that, first of all, Arthur Smith. I hate his
play calling. I thought the way they came out in
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the second half was terrible, even though they got screwed
on the guy was in the neutral zone.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And they didn't call it there.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Steelers got a couple of calls last year too, but
coming out after you were running the ball and establishing
run in the first half and just throwing it three times.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I get that one of those things.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Was Aaron Rodgers reacting to a very obvious off sides.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But I mean, were they won for ten on third down?
I mean they were abysmal. I mean just the eye test,
it didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Defense held up at first too, because well with the
help of a couple drops, but still, you know, it
was a while before green Bay converted.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
A third down.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, they were getting off the field.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then the second half happened, and that's when the
whole you know, I know, the Manning brothers during the
Manning cast that one night were like, I never did
a halftime adjustment. You just have time to pee and
blah blah blah. Coaches ad just continually through the game.
And if Deshaun Elliott is a lynchpin for your defense
that is the most expensive in the NFL, well then
you did it wrong. And I think that what coach
(06:54):
Tomlin's problem is going to be in facing these critics
this week has more to do with talent evaluation than
actual coaching.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think we miss Minka big time because there's been
a lot of splash in the middle of the field,
a lot of mistackles, Like I really haven't seen Thornhill
make much of an impact. Chuck Clark is a liability,
he's a slay is cooked some reason. Pepers is not
on the field. You know what what does that tell you? Well,
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it tells me he made a few mistakes and they
went away from him for whatever reason, and they just
haven't brought him back. I'm not sure exactly why he's
not out there.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
At least I don't think they don't play players who
give them a better chance to win, you know, like
most of the time it's it's because they're not good
enough and if they're avant on what you're seeing between
Chuck Clark Thornhill running around out there.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Okay, but square these two things for me. You just
said they have a problem with player assessment.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well that is true.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So then you're also saying.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Oh, well, the players that aren't out there aren't good
enough to be out there.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Says who the guys that don't assess play?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He was great, Like, I mean, fair point.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'll talking more about like the actual acquisition and thinking
the guy can do it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Then he gets here and you're like, well, obviously we
were wrong about that.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, I would say the one silver lining out of
last night is Roman Wilson, Like how many times have
we been told mo, he just can't get on the
moving train.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
He stinks he's not good enough to crack the lineup?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Touchdown, big catch last night, Like he's he made an impact.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Why isn't he being used more?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Big first down last night? On top of that touchdown
that was a little bit of a coming up party
for him. Who knows, you know, the NFL is crazy
and the Steelers could go out and beat the Colts
this week culture due to lose.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's what I was saying, is that all you got victory?
Why not? Hey?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Why not us? They an egg.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I I went down to the game to meet a
friend of mine came in from out of town who
I haven't seen in a while, and so I'm like,
all right, I'm reluctantly gonna go meet you for a
couple of years and watch the four o'clock cames, just
because I thought it was going to be a zoo
down there, and.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It was, but in a fun way.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It was like it's just being around that atmosphere on
a beautiful fall day, and it was a lot of fun.
And they were like, is there always as many fans
from the other team here? And I'm like, no, no, no.
And I'll go out and say, you know, I was
throwing out crazy figures last week, saying I thought it
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was going to be like, you know, forty five fifty
five Packers Steelers. It was probably twenty five percent Packers
fans or less, but they got to cheer the whole game.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I don't know if you saw our body.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Matt Light posted he had Packers fans behind him, go
pack Go, cheering the entire game, the entire second half,
and then the Steelers had to actually go to the
silent count at home.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I tried to warn the Packers fans about that at
the tailgate. Probably the most fans from another team that
I've seen. I think in the times that I've been
hosting the tailgate, the three biggest fan bases that I've
seen in there were the forty nine Ers, the Cowboys, Yeah,
and the Packers. And I was saying to them, hey,
(10:09):
I know, you guys got go pack go Tourett's try
to just get it out of your system early in
the game because if you're winning and it's the fourth
quarter and you're doing that, you know, Steeler fans aren't
going to be.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That nice to you, especial if you're up in the
five hundreds. Yeah, but you know when they perform, well,
you can't you can't keep that stuff down.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Nope.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I had a brunch and there were Packers fans that
walked in. But I was like twenty minutes outside.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Of the city and there's Packers fans there. Yeah, and
they look like, you know, exuberant. They had like the
overalls on.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Time.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
So we actually asked them, you know, like how long
are you saying in Pittsburgh. We sent them beers, we
sent them to Irish cities, and like we were just
kind of like, yeah, let's uh.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Poison them. But they said they're actually like dang.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Long enough to go to like the Penguin game tonight.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
But you know, they were like they're a hard fan basically,
even when they beat us for the Super Bowl, it
was kind of like, ah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I can't stay mad at you.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, it's it's not their fault. It's it's our fault.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
It's it's the team's fault for not playing well enough
to keep that enthusiasm to a minimum.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I saw a Steeler fan, uh try to start a
fight with a Packers fan over a chair at a bar,
and the Packers fan was like, oh, no, it's okay,
you can have it, you know, and I was like,
the boy that really was I mean, that could not
have lived up to its billing.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
More. Ye like to see the fans like you.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Don't see the coat on it, and they guys, oh, Mike,
well gosh, I'm really sorry about that, you know, and
He's like, well, you can't hold chairs anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, absolutely, you can't.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I'm like, you wanted to fight him and he wouldn't
even fight you know.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Chee stick.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know if you said there was a perogi
head at the game last night, I don't know if
that that's going to take off.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
They were trying to keep out.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I retweeted your tweet that girl was awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, she made that. It was like cardboard what the
closer I got? I was like, how did you do that?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
That was great?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
She's putting in a lot of craft work.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, craft put in a lot of craft work last
night as he diced up the Steelers for a couple
of touchdowns and the North is garbage football. The Bengals
lost to the Jets late yesterday. Man, Justin Fields, how
does your heart not break for Justin Fields?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I'm happy for him yesterday. That was incredible.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
He curled up in the closet crying this week and
being vulnerant, vulnerable enough to say all that that. That
was like pretty interesting and I wonder if people are
going to be using that against him in the future.
Those are one of those things where I'm like, oh, sure,
like the Steelers wouldn't be all that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I'm likena be crying in a closet that there'd be signed.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I mean could have admitted where That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I was crying clauset justin.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I was crying at my house. We're the very manly room,
a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Of horseheads and deer heads and elk kids on the wall.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It was like Teddy Roosevelt's study.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's where I was a manly room.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Rubbing myself with beef callows ring and cried, yeah, ahead,
a man cry.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But he got the win there, and uh, the Ravens
win over the Browns or I'm sorry over the Bears
and the Browns.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh my lord, the Browns. Browns.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Di it.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Miles Garrett smacking his helmet off of the bench.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You know what, buddy, you don't even get to be mad.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, you don't get you just don't even get to
be mad.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Signed up for you wrote what you wanted in your letter,
and then you signed for more money.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Haha, is all I got to say to him.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
And I don't know what he's going to do, but
it seems to me that he's going to try to
figure out a way to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How do you do that? How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Their ownership is terrible, their star player that they back
do it for Miles he is a cancer. And they
can't figure out the quarterback position because Dylan Gabriel stinks.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So that's the AFC North.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
The Ravens have a two and five record, and they
are the odds on favorite to win the AFC North.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
They're two and five and then the odds.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
On favorite because I think that, you know, the writing
is on the wall for Lamar to come back, and
when he comes back, he makes that team go and
everybody else looks terrible.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think everybody missed that story this weekend on the
Ravens too, and they categorize it as some sort of
gambling thing because of the week that happened.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
With miss categorizing his practice status, right.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, And I think what the real story behind that?
And you know a lot of people have said this.
I'm not like breaking any news, but I don't think
it's anything to do with gambling. I agree it's a
bad look, but it's clearly the way that that organization
has continually mishandled Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
They always do.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
They are on the wrong page with him on everything,
on injuries, on contract status. They just can't communicate with him.
And I get that he's a weird dude, but you
got to do better than that. And if you're John Harbaugh,
you cannot stand up there and go, oh, yeah, you
know what, he had a full participation practice today and
then a day later go oh well yeah, no, I
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mean I met he was like he did a lot.
It's like, no, dude, words matter, and you know exactly
what you were saying. And they were trying to put
their full weight on him to get him to play
this weekend, and that just staying who Lamar Jackson is.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
He does not care.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's like, no, I'm I'm gonna play for me and
be healthy and I'm not sacrificing my body because well, yeah,
how many players have you seen on out there in
that similar situation? And then like Baker Mayfield, Coss Baker
Mayfield Cleveland, which.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Oh man, that was the best move he ever could
have made.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Sure did they got another win yesterday?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Michael being in just a little bit, we were kind
of talking as we were filling up our high octane
coffees out there about just what do you make of
this team?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now? You know, people indition them ting well on top.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Now, I don't blame them for being mad Bill and
taking all kinds of unsportsmanlike penalties because they had those
uniforms on it. And you know how it is when
you're a kid and you're wearing something at church you
don't want to wear.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Pants, and then you're like, you got to defend yourself,
but you're.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Right, yeah, I want to poke someone in the eye
to Okay, I get that, But the undisciplined nature from
the big name stars, and I think that was the
first peak at the DK that is problematic and part
of why I think the Steelers didn't want to do
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an experiment with Pickens and DK in the same roster.
Though I think they screwed up royally on that one.
When all said and done, who cares because the locker
room's going to be a mess the way things are
going right now.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And winning cures all ills.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You know, they want to extend him in Dallas as
our buddy Dave Danishek has been all too willing to
remind everyone. So I don't know, man, I think it's
going to be an ugly week in Pittsburgh. I think
Mike Tomlin is going to hear the fire Tomlin chance
louder than he ever has. And I'm having a hard
time disagreeing with the fact that his message is stale.
(17:38):
This is an Andy Reid situation. You know, a lot
of success in Philadelphia ultimately couldn't get it done. After
a lot of years, he had to go somewhere else
to win. It proved he was a great coach. They
brought someone else in and they won with Doug Peterson.
You know, we needed Doug Peterson, a guy who come
in and win with us, and then we fire him.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
In three years.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And then we find our Sirianne. No, that's not gonna
and maybe it's Signetti if.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
We if we would have hired Peterson, we would have
him here for the next seventeen years.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh, we don't fire anybody because, uh, well, you know
since the moon landing, we've had three head coaches.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, well you know, guess what, now we're going to Mars,
so we changed things up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, I think that you're you're only going to see
a change at the head coach position when Art steps down.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
When Ard steps.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Down, it'll be like a mutual maybe tandem retirement or
a soft retirement for Tomlin where he'll go do media
for a year and then come back into coaching if
he wants to.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I mean, he can do whatever he wants. Yeah, I
think you're right about that. All right, Mike is going
to join us year. We got Tim Ben, Jerry d
Rob came with a power hour of Steelers talk on
the way for you. Gardell was going to try to
come in today. He got really sick this weekend. He's battle.
Last night he was there but he you know, he
was shaking off a fever last night. So unfortunately we
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Speaker 3 (19:07):
But to be sick and then go see that.
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Skilled camp Well, Mike Pursuit is year after doing the
postgame show last night here on DVE, slept on a
couch and he's here for your six thirty Sports this morning,
and you were just talking with the Bill here in
the break about the tenor of the postgame show, calls
what does Steeler Nation think right now?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And how are they feeling beyond it? You know, there's
always the reactionary fire Tomlin anytime they lose, and I
just text that to him. I don't call man. What
stage of grief are they in right now? Grieving?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, actively, not excepting. It's just sad.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
And you know thirty five twenty five was sad last
night at Akrosser Stadium. Sports This Hour brought to you
by Bridge Valplights. It got so bad during what became
the collapse at Actresser. Quarterback Aaron Rodgers had to do
a discount double take to make sure he wasn't still
in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Acker fans traveled really well.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
First time in a while. I do use silent count
for a home game.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's a credit to those Packer fans.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh, he's he's helping that soft landing. When all said
and done, that he can go back to Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (22:12):
But uh, I mean that's heresy, right, I mean, that's
that's defeat. I mean they just take over your trap.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Yeah, walking you a trap, Go Pack go. They hung
around long after the final.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
If you travel to Green Bay to watch the Steelers
and they rolled, you'd be there.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
To celebrated the on field interviews, They celebrated the postgame show.
They chanted they took the stadium over their money's worth,
and their team owned the Steelers. Uh, Bill, I think
you said thirty five twenty five. It wasn't that close.
Brandy said that, but yeah, one of you guys said that.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I agreed. Uh.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
The amazing part was the Steelers were leading going into
the fourth quarter. I know, but that game just once
it started spinning out of control, it continued to spin
out of control and there's a stension that permeates. Here's
Mike Tomlin. You know we all have to own it.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Certainly, you start with the schematics, man, because you know
that's the leadership component of it. And certainly we'll be
looking at everything that we're doing, man, because some of
these problems are somewhat repetitive and we're not getting better
fast enough.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
He also talked about personnel, although with a couple potentially
significant injuries.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Significant being Tomlin's word.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Is it related to Isaac Saymalu and Deshaun Elliott. He's
got to torn pack. That offensive line is in trouble.
Your options are limited. This from Cam Cam Hayward to
a group of reporters. This is story one to me.
This is the barmera of how bad it's gotten.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Quote.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
There's not a lot of fight in us right now.
And who among us to watch that game unfold would
argue in the second half is it? You know there
was one guy fighting, a couple guys fighting at the
end of the game, Aaron Rodgers and maybe Roman Wilson.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Mm hmm. After ten days off and you got your
ass kicked.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
They just took it, gave started going bad and some
and they just took it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That lob up to Tucker Craft that played Elliott got
hurt on incredible That's that was the turning point. It
was just all over after that. If you get a
defensive stop there deep in their territory.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
That was third and five from the Green Bay fifteen.
He got hit as he Suckerman blitzed. Patrick Queen is
right in his face. He just threw it down the
middle of the field. It was end over end and
Deshaun Elliott, you got hurt on the play. That's really unfortunate,
but that's a one on one contested ball.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
He also got pushed.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
He did push back.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, don't throw your hands up in the early I
didn't do anything. For God's sake. Misplayed that and then
they got down to score.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Steelers after that, go down and at least kick a
field goal, although they had a penetration in the Green
Bay territory. Then drive got away from Okay, it happens
nineteen fourteen. Then he had another heave down the middle
of the field and somehow Christian Watson. This one at
least was less of a desperation play, but it was
a he threw it up there for grabs and Christian
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Thornhill misplayed that grabbed it between want Thornhill and Brandon Echols.
They got out and get another touchdown. Then the Steelers
not only fail on offense, but punt the ball and
Nick Herbig gets a fifteen yard penal. League, don't tell
me you're defending your teammate. It's a tight game in
the fourth quarter. You can't take a fifteen yard penalty
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and set them up at your forty five yard line
for a short field touchdown drive.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Just one thing after another.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Offense, defense, special teams collapse and no pushback.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Nobody drawn a line in sand saying enough of this.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Bleep other than that, missus Lincoln. How was the play.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Bad as I've seen it? You know, I'd have to
really think on it a while to think when it
was just bad before.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
TJ Watt cam.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
These are guys I expect to be trying to like,
fire this team up and take over the messaging.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And I'm not sure if they.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Believe in this team enough to even be doing that.
That second half, terrible penalty after terrible penalty, just an
absolute mental and physical collapse. And also slay letting Williams
walk into the end zone. I'm not letting go of
that because if this is a historic defense, you don't
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let someone walk into the end zone uncontested.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Well, one of the problems with it, and I don't
know that just came up in the post game, but
they are their state of confidence in their players is
such that Slay comes out now when they think it's
a passing down, and Chuck Clark comes out when they
think it's a passing guy, and they put Thornhill in
and Holkom goes in when they think it's a running down,
(27:15):
and they take Peyton Wilson about and we're back to this. Well,
this guy can do this, but not that garbage. And
you know the funny thing about that is the offenses
don't always cooperate. When you ever guys they can stop
the pass, sometimes they run the ball, and then when
you have your guys and they can run the ball,
sometimes they pass. And that's all you have to get
guys that can do both.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, if we can see that from the five hundred section,
I'm thinking that the best coordinators in.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
The league you're gonna guess wrong eventually and get burned.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
And this is my issue with Tomlin. I think Tomlin
and Bill you said it in the break he's a
leader of men, but coordinating Italian talent evaluation not so good,
especially the talent talent evaluation aspect.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
And I think that's a you know, that speaks to
a lot of people. General manager of the Scouts.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, No, I'm not saying it's only Mike Tomlin. I'm
saying the organizationally, they've got a big issue.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's problem one to me right now.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
And I mean it's not like that's going to get
fixed before the Colts get here.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
They've assembled a bad team. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
And th best thing I got gold for him is
the quarterback Yeah, which.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I kind of lucked into because the Jets mangled it
so bad. But and that was the guy I was like,
don't sign him.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
They offered fields, but you know, not a lot, and
looked at some other guys they kind of.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I mean, I love the way that Rogers has been playing,
but I don't think he's good enough to compensate for
the team around him.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
No, he's certainly not playing at his MVP level. Well,
I don't know that he gets the platform to do it.
I mean, they don't set him up for what he does.
I mean he was never a super mobile quarterback, not
like he wasn't a running quarterback, that has to say.
And this offense would need somebody who can take off
when everything goes bad, because it goes bad a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Metcalf comes down with a ball in the end zone
he's supposed to catch because they're paying him one hundred
and sixty million instead of kicking off fifty yard wheel
go there or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
No, I mean I didn't. They played by the defender there.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
The protection to me was not a real problem until
the late as the wheels started coming off everywhere else
hurt and you're getting in obvious passing situations and you know.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, Mike, what were they on third down? Because just
one for ten? Yeah, I mean it was good, abysmal.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
How'd they make one?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Well?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know, if there's anybody who can look at this
and make lemons lemonade out of these lemons, it's Tim Benz.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I mean, oh yeah, this is a guy who's positivity
give you the rosiest scenario here. Jerry d a little
bit later on this morning, and Rob came with a
sour hour of Steeler talking at the nine o'clock hour
and Abbey's and news coming up at the top.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
The future development of the former Civic Arena site sounds
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Speaker 10 (30:12):
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Speaker 2 (30:21):
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The exclusive sales event is to good ones, the good Steelers,
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Speaker 3 (30:31):
Oh right, those are the throwback Steelers.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
They sucked, They were not good. They were called the Pirates.
It all makes sense, doesn't it. Yes, only more years
of that coming.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
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Speaker 2 (30:47):
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Speaker 1 (30:49):
Is there an appliance that we can get from them
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Speaker 2 (30:55):
Tim?
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Yeah, A blender to make as much alcoholic drinks as
you passed it.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
It's gonna say, a garbage disposabal.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
We have nothing left, all right? Where do you start?
You're right?
Speaker 8 (31:11):
I am playing. I am playing to make lemonade out
of this, I'm just gonna add lots and lots of vodka.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
So yeah, well you need it to just endure that
absolute craft show. The second half really I think revealed
the identity of this team right now and craft show
I think, which yes, indeed, Well there wasn't one single
thing that bothered me if there were plenty. And how
(31:37):
does Mike Tomlin approach dealing with Indy coming in this
week after his team quit on him in the second half? Oh,
I think you've got the blender on your phone. I
start all over, Go ahead, we got you now.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
I was gonna say, it's not like Indy has a
good running back or a good tight end or a
hot quarterback or anything like that right now, right the
way Taylor was running, or the draft choice of Warren
and how that's working out, I don't know how it
fixes it. In fact, when I was sitting there in
the press conference with him last night, it struck me
that he was having one of those moments of realization
(32:16):
where it's no longer about trying to deny the media
narratives about the team, and it's more about trying to
figure out his own moment of realization that he doesn't
have the answers because there are no answers. The scheme
doesn't work, the players don't work. It's all bad on
that side of the ball. Think about how much worse
it would have been if the kicker for the Packers
(32:37):
could kick like Chris Boswell can. That game takes on
a totally different tone at that point.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
Tim I thought the same thing. I'm listening upstairs waiting
to go on the post game show, and I couldn't
believe how long it went, how engaging Tomlin was, even
though the question started getting a little repetitive and there
was an eerie calm in his voice. The way he
was delivering his answers, it was like, Wow, what you
(33:04):
guys saw? What the hell am I gonna do about it?
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Like, you know one thing, Mike, I think a lot
of us, you and I have talked about this. A
lot of folks who have covered Tomlin for most of it,
if not all, of his tenure, have picked up on it,
especially as the years have gone along. The longer he's
been here, the more defiant he is of any questions
when they're winning, and the more accepting he is of
(33:27):
them when they're losing. He doesn't want to make it
look like he's pushing back when things go bad, because
I think when they've gone bad in recent years, they
go bad dramatically, like five game losing streaks, or you know,
seven to two and one to nine, six and one
and out of the playoffs, or losing your last three
games in twenty nineteen to miss the playoffs. It's like
(33:50):
he knows the more he pushes back, even if he
feels like it, even if it's against his instinct, the
worse it is for him, as if it could get
worse right now, because the frustration level is so high.
And I don't think this is like you guys were
talking during the sportscast, sort of a knee jerk reaction.
(34:10):
I heard somebody mention where people are saying, fire Tom
on fire Tom. It's not knee jerk. This is just
to carry over what's been going on the last eight years.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yep, all right, So we wanted to get a number
two wide receiver before the trade deadline. Has that changed
given what looks like a pretty severe injury with the
Shawn Elliott and the secondary's complete collapse. The defensive line
looked adequate against the run last night and seemed to
keep Jacobs somewhat in check. But the secondary they were
(34:44):
giving up. Just just jump oflls. No, it usually gets
two rushing touchdowns, only go one. Yeah, that's right, steps,
that's pretty good.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
Yeah. I don't know if the agenda changes, And frankly,
I don't know who's really available out there in the
secondary to get particularly at safety. You know they're looking
before and the best they came up with was Peppers,
So I don't know what's out there, and I don't
think one should change the other. Like, if they can
get a good safety, get a good safety. But if
(35:13):
Rashid Shahik can still be had for a third or
fourth round pick, get that too, because you need it.
Because it's not like they can wave the white flag
and not try and not give up picks or trade
their own guys. Like they're not in that mode. They're
still in first place and the rest of the division
is so bad you have to keep trying. You have
(35:33):
to keep looking to add I think.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, I mean the offensive line might be in flux
with the same olo injury as well.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
If that's a torn peck, probably just turn for a
guard of safety and wide receiver, that's all you said.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Historically, Well, you know that there always is changing guys.
That always happens.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
I do think there's something to it, though in the
sense that.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You I don't think.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
They're in the mode right now of Hey, there's going
to be seven quarterbacks available, let's trade up from the
middle of the pack to at least get one in
the first round. I think that whole thing has taken
on a new complexion now based on how the college
quarterbacks have gone. So maybe this I know, losing their
(36:24):
way up the draft board. But yeah, I still think
this division is going to keep them afloat. I mean,
look at how it performed again yesterday, and I get it.
The Ravens did win without Lamar and they probably went
to the right back up quarterback for how they play.
But I don't know. I don't know if they can
lose their way out of being in first place in
this division so quickly. I guess they can. Like you said,
(36:46):
the next couple of games are very difficult. I'm just
thinking about what Jonathan Taylor is going to do to
that defense when they're concerned about trying to cover the
tight end, and what Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Is going to do.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
I feel like Taylor could have a huge day against them.
This is supposed to be the bounce back game Prime Time,
the whole Rogers thing, and it didn't happen.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
Now, I just think they're a lesser team going up
against a better team, the best team in football so
far this year, best record, best point differential. It sounds
weird saying that about the Colts, who you know some
I didn't even think they're gonna make the playoffs. I
didn't think they're gonna win that division. And now everything
is clicking on all cylinders. And that's a coach that's
beating Tomlin twice now as a head coach and once
(37:27):
is an offensive coordinator, and Stiching one he's back with
the Eagles, So this is this is a bad matchup
on a lot of fronts. And then you get the
Chargers after that at five and three, and then Flacco
comes back in. You know you can't beat him. Everybody
knows that you can't beat kill Black though, So yeah,
they might be in significant trouble.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
You kind of tipped right into my question, Tim because
I know that this only counts as one loss, but
it felt bigger than that. Given the time they had
off and the Rogers angle and you're playing in prime
time to come out and lay an egg in that
that scenario just foretells of disaster down the stretch for
the gauntlet you just described.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Speaking of that, it's not like we can let the
offense entirely off the hook. I thought last week maybe
I was looking for angles to talk about what the
offense didn't do as well, just because I wanted to
be fair and balanced, like I didn't just want to
go after the defense one hundred percent entirely. I think
I wrote somewhere last week it was ninety percent about
the defense. This is a little bit more of a
(38:28):
split because of how I think the offense performed in
the first half. I used the phrase taking on a
different complexion. That game takes on a much different complexion.
If the offense finishes those drives in the first half,
when the defense was at least holding up and the
kicker was missing kicks for Green Bay. If the Steelers
(38:50):
finished those drives instead of relying on Boz to hit
fifty yarders all the time, then you got a different
tone going into halftime. And Brett Michaels is up there
singing nothing but a good time, and instead you're you're
you're looking for something to believe in.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So you know, I forgot did have?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Oh yeah, we were up, We were up.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Well look you know throw you know, at least in
the offenses favor. They were able to get the ball
to Spencer Anderson. And I've been saying, if you want
to if you want to win, on.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
The first drive, they pulled out all their tricks on
the first drive.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
If that was a trick so much, it was just like,
what are we doing here? All right?
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Now?
Speaker 7 (39:34):
I just wanted them to know they can do that. Yeah,
so they could run more easily.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
And they love that look. And now they might not
be able to use it as much because Anderson has
to play for Siamalo for as long as he's out.
So they love that extra lineman. Now, who's going to
be the extra lineman?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
We could trade for one, Tim Benz brought to you.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
We have another Anderson, don't we? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, well you know, uh, Calvin, we have Calvin, We've
Swisser and uh I think we have Elroy, I'm not sure.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Yeah, yeah Anderson.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, well let's just shoot up fishman. I think I
think we all agree. That'll that'll fix thought he was
playing safety.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Lesson benzis brought to you by fishman Don's Appliances this morning, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Tim Well get big place.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
You got a guy.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
All right, man, we'll see it.
Speaker 9 (40:27):
It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE brought
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Speaker 3 (40:38):
Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 12 (40:40):
The Steelers fell to four and three on the season
with a thirty five to twenty five defeet at the
hands of the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night Football.
The Steelers held the lead at halftime sixteen to seven,
but a twenty eight point second half explosion by the
Packers offense helped rally the Packers back to get the victory.
Scarheading the strong offensive performance was quarterback Jordan Love and
tight end Tucker Craft. Love, who at one point game
(41:00):
strung together twenty straight pass completions, finished twenty nine of
thirty seven for three hundred and sixty yards and three
passing touchdowns. Craft was certainly his favorite target on the night.
He was targeted nine times by Love, converting seven into
catches for one hundred and forty three yards and getting
into the end zone twice. The Steelers struggled throughout the
game to find an answer to Craft in the Green
Bay passing attack, and their defense has now gone three
(41:22):
straight games without forcing a turnover. On top of that,
Sunday night was the fourth instance of the season that
the team surrendered thirty plus points in a game. Aaron
Rodgers turned into decent performance in his first meeting against
his former team, throwing for two hundred and nineteen yards
and two touchdowns, but it ultimately proved to be not
enough to pull out the victory. Things won't get any
easier for the Steelers next week, as the Indianapolis Colts
(41:42):
bring their league best seven to one record into town.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I'm Tom Opfermann with the Steelers Report.
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