October 27, 2025 • 43 mins
Rob King joins us live in-studio for a sour power hour to give a full recap of the Steelers 35-25 loss to the Seahawks.
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Touchdown, Green Bay Packers.
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Tucker Kraft a tight end and the Packers on national
tight end they get a touchdown from tight end Tucker Craft.
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The author of that play call and voice of the
Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King, joining us right now for a
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh look at that. You the point because it wasn't
his fault. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Good editing
on that.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
By the way, that's the game. Last night was the
announcing oh Man.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
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they got trucked in the second half last night. Yeah,
and there is no shortage of reasons to be angry.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
If you're a Steelers fan right now.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I'm giving the offense a pass on just about everything,
even though there's plenty to not like about the execution
in the second half.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But the defense is so bad.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
It's like complaining about a hangnail when you've got, you know,
pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Let's yeah, I don't know how you fix this. Well,
the you know, the offense could have been better in
the second half, for sure. You know, at the at
halftime sixteen to seven, they're not running the ball. You
are running the ball against the you know, the second
best rush defense in the league. Look good, you're gonna
get the ball to begin the second half. It's sixteen
to seven. That was really the turning point. I mean
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the non off side against Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Look at it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It wouldn't have been a first down I think would
have made it third and three or something like that.
It would have been third and manageable team. I would
have been okay with Rum and Wilson catching that ball.
That would have been too There were a couple of
opportunities that slipped away. It's good to see him more
involved in the offense, but there were a couple of
there's a long win to DK metcalf that got knocked
away from him. I mean there were a touchdown, Yeah,
it would have been a touchdown. There were some plays
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the Steelers' offense left out in the field and then
you know, you pin him deep, you get a third
and long, and then that you know, that sort of
wounded duck ball up the right sideline to Craft that
went for fifty nine yards. That was like the turning
point of the game. But again, look at some point
you got to stem the tide somewhere. You've either got
to respond there and go on a long drive, or
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you've got to come up with a stop and get
the ball back, or you've got to create a turnover.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They not only didn't create a turnover yesterday.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I know the Packers had two balls in the on
the ground that the Steelers didn't recover, and so that's
you know, you could call that a little bit of
bad luck perhaps, but they didn't do anything. They didn't
get any pressure on Love, they didn't create any turnovers.
And so I mean, ultimately, when you give up twenty
eight points and a half of football, you're not gonna win.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Well, they're not getting deep into the opponents side of
the field. Ever, everyone keeps saying, like the drivestalled, they're
not much of a drive when you're banging fifty six
yard field goals, right.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
The other thing that that's like two first downs. Yeah,
Aaron Aaron rodd you know, they called it the high
red zone. Aaron Rodgers called it the high reds. They
got to be better there. They just they stalled, all
their drives stalled. I mean, you've, you know, thank goodness
for for Boswell. I mean, think about the fact that
they missed two field goals, right, you know they could
have to make they could have had forty last night. Yeah,
think about that, they could have forty points last night.
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They missed field goals. And you have Boswell, who's just
incredible banging field goals through for you. He's a great
weapon for you. But you can't rely on that. You can't.
It's you know, and again I don't know whether I
don't know whether they're you know, what they're going to
do here, if they're going to try to, you know,
change their game plan or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
But it's hard right now.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I think if you're the Steelers to trust that a
defense that's given up thirty or more points four times
in seven games, is gonna do what they've historically done,
which is win the game for you put it away,
you know, I mean often in the last several years,
when the students have had you know, other quarterbacks, you know,
between Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers, guys that maybe you
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didn't trust offensively on a third and six in a
game you're winning by three, so you punt it away
and trusted defense is gonna stop them. Well, this defense
is given up over thirty points. I mean, I'm not
giving it. This is no revelation. Just look at the numbers.
They've given up more than thirty points four times in
seven games.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Kenger, I'm just so fed up with seeing different players
on the field defensively every down.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Isn't it time for them to just stick with Holcombe
or Wilson or Peppers or Thornhill or Clark, Like, Let's
pick some defensive players and let them get in the
rhythm and let that communication actually start to work, because
I think what's lost in the translation of it all
is the constant changing of personnel.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
It looks a situational football that allows the other team
to play that same chess game with you.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, I mean, it's certainly. I mean, there's a lot
of things on defense, and so you know when you're
seeing guys, you know, look, people have said too many substitutions.
People have said they're too slow right in the secondary,
in the back end, you have these veteran guys you
brought in with great resumes, but they're too slow. And
we saw Tucker Craft running away from people at the
tight end position last night. Well we're not talking about
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Golden and Watson, who can fly, we're talking about the
tight end. He's a good one, as we saw last night,
but he's running away from people on and so you're
getting other teams are able to find what I'm sure
they're perceiving as mismatches, either schematically or personnel wise. You know,
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I have Look, they made big plays down the field,
but they also just simply threw balls into the flat
and we're picking up ten twelve yards a rip on
plays that. You know, you throw a ball out in
the flat, it's first down. If you get six, you're pleased, right, Hey,
second and four, that's a really good play in the flat.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It just felt like they were getting more.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I haven't looked back at the numbers, but it felt
like they were getting a lot more than that in
the flat didn't.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Coach Tomlin kind of refute that in the post game
he was asked about it, He's like, Ah, that's not
why we gave up three hundred yards passing.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, because they did give up.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, you give up a fifty nine yard at
a craft and you give up other long plays that
you don't want to give up, and that's you know,
those make the yard to jad up.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But it was all part of it.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I mean, I think the point is that, you know,
there's a lot of things like that was my point.
There's a lot you know, so last week in Cincinnati, well,
you don't take away Chase, you don't take away Higgins.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But you also don't take away their running game. And
so teams are they okay job with that?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
In the especially they did an excellent job on Jacob's
throughout the game. And then you know, Wilson started to
run the ball more effectively in the second half. But
again at halftime, if you told me, hey, sixteen to seven,
this is these are the rushing totals, right the Steelers
at eighty one.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think the Packers had they had less than twenty.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I think, you know, here's the score, and you get
the ball to begin the second half. Okay, you know,
let's march down the field. Maybe stop, you know, settling
for a field goal. You punch one in and it's
twenty three to seven. Instead you go three and out.
You don't get a call. There's one that I'm sure
Roman Wilson it was a good play, but I think
it was Nixon defensively, yeah, you know, Wills. I'm sure
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Roman would like to have that one back. Perhaps it
was a good play by Nixon though too. He's a
two time pro bowler, and there were some plays the
offense left out there. But ultimately, you know, when you
score twenty five points, you're gonna win a good portion
of your games. The Steelers almost always win them when
they score more than twenty almost always. And this is
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back to back weeks when that didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Why do you think Arthur Smith came out in the
second half and got away from the running game, which
was paying dividends in the first half.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, I think some of it, and again I have
to would have to go back and look at each play,
but some of it was penalties, you know, the penalties
the Steelers had. The Steelers didn't rack up like one
hundred yards of penalties, but it felt like every penalty
was just a killer they got themselves, you know, there
was there were two after the whistle calls, one on
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herbing on the punt that all of a sudden, now
when you're trying to stem the tide that gets the
Packers of the ball at your forty five yard line,
Well that's troublesome. And then you then on a draft
on a drive later in the fourth, you know you've
got the ball and you're and you're trying to you're
trying to, you know, make it third and manageable, and
instead after the play you get a fifteen yard penalty.
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So now you have second in law and so second
in like eighteen or something, and they're just not equipped
to overcome those kind of things offensively. So I think
the penalties there weren't a ton of them, but they
really hurt.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
The Steelers in this game too. When they became one dimensional.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It was over too because the pass rusher, like you said,
it was just insane.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
This is was rather the turning point of the game.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Love in the shotgun gets the snap Steelers bringing pressure.
Love under duress flings it up, feel that it's.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
Caught by Craft a lofting ball, and he brings it
in hustling down the right sideline, dragging defenders, gets inside
the thirty all the way down to the twenty six
yard line. It was a lame duck heaved up in
the air by Love.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And it's Craft who makes the adjustment to come back
and make the catch and get it all the way
down to the twenty six yard line where de Shawn
Elliott now is writhing in pain.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Thornhill lets him get almost thirty yards extra by not
wrapping him up there. Thornhill also misjudges the thirty three
yarder to Watson later in the game, which was also
you know, if Russ Wilson has the moonball, Jordan Love's
got the jump ball.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, And then at the end of that Elliott got hurt, right,
And that's you know, we we've seen that movie with
at Elliott this year and it hasn't been good.
Speaker 9 (10:03):
I know.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
But I was saying this earlier with all of those
high priced, big name defensive stars, the fact that it's
Deshaun Elliott that makes the Jenga tower fall for them,
defensively is perplexing to me.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, the I think it is safe to say, and
I don't think anybody. I don't see how you could
disagree with the fact that the whole does not seem
to equal to some of its parts right now. I mean,
you have very good players on that defense and for
whatever reason. Again, I'm not going to use adjectives to
describe it. I'm just going to say they've given up
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thirty or more points in four out of seven games.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So you've got star power.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You've got guys you've given contract extensions to, You've got
guys that you've invested high draft picks in, and this
is not what you expected to say?
Speaker 10 (10:52):
Is it like in baseball where just a whole team
is slumping like it's contagious? Because we talked the last
break with Jerry did about TJ. Watt not winning nearly enough,
not being impactful. But part of it is that all
the attention he's getting, somebody else has got to win
and nobody else on that line is winning it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
They had a couple of moments in this game, and
including that pass that loved just through. There were some
moments last week in Cincinnati in which the Steelers, who
have one of the heavier blitz percentages in the NFL
this year, aren't getting home. So I think the notion
that a lot of us had coming in was you
go out and get Ramsey. You have sleigh, you have porter.
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This equips you to come up and play some brighter
coverage right now. This allows you to unleash the blitz.
So you go, your quarterback, you see the blitz coming,
You go to throw. Oh, he's not open because he's
being pressed with man coverage. Now in that second that
you have to try to look somewhere else or double clutch.
It too late, the blitz has gotten home and the
pass rush has gotten home, and neither one of those
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things has been true. You know, the quarterback has been
able to stop throw quickly and find open receivers or
if he has to think again, he's got time. The
last couple of weeks, the blitz just hasn't gotten home.
You know what what is the issue? I don't know,
but I don't think it's you talk about. You know
you just mentioned you know personnel, you know, uh, guys
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running in and out of the field. You know, teams
being able to use their best weapons to exploit your defense.
There's just a litany of issues right now, and they've
got to get it fixed because I mean this is,
you know, statistically, I believe they have the worst I
haven't seen the updated SATs.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I believe they have the worst pass defense in the league,
you know.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And and I mean it's uh, it's a tough way
to tough way to live. So what they're gonna do
and what the core issues are, it's difficult for me
to say, because I think there's more than.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
One Rob King voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers here on
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in the league is the Cowboys, okay, and next worst
is the Steelers. But good news, we're full two yards
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better a game than those guys right now, one and
a half yard still.
Speaker 10 (13:18):
Here comes Michael Pittman, junior Tyler Warren and a best
running game in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, I mean, suddenly the Colts are formidable, right and
this has got it. I mean, look, man, you know
when the Steelers were off to the four and one start,
people said, and with some justification, look you know who
they really beaten.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's that's any good.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Right, you played Seattle, you lost to them. You know
you got to you got you know, the Vikings, and
you get a couple of decent wins on your resume.
But what's gonna happen when you get into the teeth
of the schedule. And you know, my feeling has always
been like, just win the games early and you'll figure
out where you are and continue to progress. And now
you've lost too in a row, and you've got the
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top team in the AFC coming in and the Colts,
and then you got to go on the road to
the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You still haven't played the Bills.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You have two games against the Ravens, who are gonna
get everybody back and healthy. I mean, you know, at
least say the healthy one. This is life, This is
life in the NFL. But you've got to reverse the trend.
Lately you're still in first place. That's great. You've got
to reverse the trend because that won't last if you
continue to play like this.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
They've got to they've got to find a way to
play better defense.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
I think the issues are much bigger than anything that
we can really tackle, right, And this is what the
frustrating thing about is I think we're going to be
like talking about so much involving personnel and execution and
things like that. As the Steelers middle their way through
the muddle their way to the middle, I should say again,
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And I honestly think that it's the message just gets lost.
Mike Sullivan was a great coach. He is now a
New York Rangers coach and not doing so great there
by the way, and the guy here doing great. I
just wonder if this message is getting through anymore, if
Mike Tomlin is as effective as he's capable of being.
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Sometimes it's just that it stops resonating. It's it can
be that simple. It doesn't have to have anything to
do with ability. Everyone keeps saying, oh, he's gonna he'll
get snapped up in a second. And I know that
it's the middle of the season right now, or almost
of the middle of the season here, but that's gotta
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be something that people are thinking about within the organization,
is are we gonna keep doing this every year?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, look, they need to, they need to make some adjustments.
And you know when I when when we talk about this.
So I think that each each season needs to be
judged on its own merit, you know, think about I mean,
just look around the NFL and and tell me what
happens to teams when they don't have a really good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Point to me, the teams that are winning without a
really quarterback. But that's not their problem. What's that? No?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
No, no, But I'm saying that's what I'm saying. You
have to judge each season individually. It has been their
problem since Ben really probably since Ben surgery.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It has been their problem, right for six seven years.
And I mean, you know, Kevin Stefanski has won two
Coaches of the Year awards. Yeah, and his record is
what eight games below five hundred. He's had two winning seasons,
He's won Coach of the Year both the years. What's
happened the other three years in Cleveland disaster? And that's
and that's that's a coach of the year. And who
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doesn't have a quarterback and can't win a game? And
so when when I when I think about Mike Tomlin
and what he's done, he has won games without quarterbacks.
I think most guys in the league can't do that.
So what's gonna happen? Now, Let's see, look right now,
the sky is falling the defense is not good, and
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it's and you've lost two games in a row, and
you're running.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Into the teeth of your schedule, games in front of
national audiences, embarrassing the shield, the organization.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, let's see what happens over the next stretch of games,
and let's see if they can, if they can turn
this thing around. I mean, you know, listen, we don't
want to again. I think there's a lot to like.
But but after these last two games, it does have
you scratching your head, particularly with the defense.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, you know, just a little emotional this morning. We
haven't slept. I mean two weeks ago.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
Before that Bengals game, we were talking about the Steelers
being the number one seed in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I know, yeah, Now now you gotta find it. Now
you want to find her with a coach, the getting
all the players, you gotta regroup. I do like the
way I will see this. I do like the way
the offense is trending. I think there's a lot of
things to like.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
You know, when you when you talk about you know,
and I always talk about that first third of the season,
just win games, right, and then where you start to
trend in the middle third, of the season and then
you get into December and you got to start jocking
for playoff position if you're one of those contenders. I
think the offense is doing that. I think the offense
is playing well enough to win, and I think the
offense is trending in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
They just got to figure out the defense. We're twenty
eighth and total defense, by the way.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, and the yardage I'm sure for the Steelers isn't
great either, But again, yardages and everything, and I'm talking
about for the offense, yardages and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
They're scoring some points.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
They're scoring enough points to win, and they're definitely scoring
enough points to win with traditional Steelers defenses. They're just
not getting a traditional Steelers defense.
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I want to take a little bit of a different
approach regarding where they are and how they can get
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out of it. If they can get out, Okay, the
defense is not going seven games in. I'm gonna go
way out on a limb and say the defense is
not going to be historian.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Now, this is what it is. They don't have the people.
Speaker 11 (19:53):
If they can figure out a way to solidify the
secondary a little bit, ben but don't break. Get back
to getting a key tar over a key sack when
you need one.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They look like Keystone cops out there.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
They have a chance to be just barely good enough. Yeah,
the offense has got to kick it in a gear
the rest of the way. If they're gonna win games,
they're gonna be scoring points. They are becoming the old
Bengals or maybe the current the current Bengals. You can
light it up, but you can't stop anybody. You just
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hope you get the ball last, or you make one
more play than they do.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
And you know, we talked a lot after the Bengals
game about DK Metcalf getting that ball ripped out of
his hands along the sidelines late in the second quarter. Yeah,
last night, a couple of plays. And this might sound
like I'm picking on Metcalf. Clearly there are many problems
and they are great, but they brought Dk Metcalf here
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to be the stud, the Hammhager, the game changing wide receiver,
and last night They got a second and five at
the Packers twenty three first possession and they run, you know,
a little flanker screen to Metcalf. He gets called for
offensive pass interference. They lose ten yards, end up kicking
a field goal instead of maybe scoring a touchdown. The
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guy covering him was named Carrington Valentine, who is a
seventh round pick out of Kentucky in twenty twenty three,
six foot, one hundred and eighty nine pounds. Now, he
has started twenty one career games going in the last night,
out of the thirty nineties played, he started the opener,
and then the Packers started a guy by naming Nate
Hobbs at corner. Up until last night, Hobbs was kneeling
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a little bit of a knee injury. He was full
participant in practice, but they started Valentine. Valentine beats Metcalf onner.
You got to interfere offensively with a seventh round guy
out of Kentucky and your DK Metcalf.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That cost the Steelers.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
Then let's fast forward to the second quarter, third and
three from the Green Bay thirty two. Rogers reads single coverage,
takes the shot deep, going for the throat going for
a touchdown Metcalf has in his hands and then it
gets knocked out by I guess who, Carrington Valentine.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
That sounds like a like a soap opera character. If
you're gonna go in to this game, but he was dead.
If you're this game, call the corner, but not for me.
Speaker 11 (22:29):
If you feeling wain to this game and tell me
DK Metcalf is gonna get multiple shots at Carrington Valentine.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'm gonna like DK Metcalf's chances, oh for two and those.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
Someone don't know much about Carrington Valentine, do you No?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
No, I don't know anything, Valentine.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Maybe this guy's going to the Hall Fame.
Speaker 11 (22:48):
Uh maybe the Green Bay guy in the pregame show
is gonna rewrite my funny Valentine and sing his praises next.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Week, Havington Valentine.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
Now, let's go to the fourth quarter. All right, it's
starting to get a little wobbly. It's to get it's no,
it gets world. Okay, it's twenty nine to nineteen, but
there's still ten to fifty one left when the Steelers
get the ball back, plenty of time for two possessions
and to get things going in the other direction. Jalen
Warren runs for five yards on second and seven, So
now it's third and two at the Pittsburgh thirty three.
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But wait, there's more unnecessary roughness personal foul after the
play on number four, DK Metcalf. The down counts back
up fifteen yards. Now it's third and seventeen possession torpedoed.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That was a killer, for sure.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
Can't be having this stuff from DK me now again,
can't be having this stuff from a lot of guys.
But if we're looking at this through the lens of
the offense has to save them, you really can't have
this stuff.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
From this Great players have to be great.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
That's why they should have kept George Pickens to you know,
calm down, DK Metcalf, You know, oh boy.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Saying I mean, I think the world of him is
a player.
Speaker 11 (23:59):
I was extacted when they acquired him, and he's been
nothing but great with us, and I think he's a
hard worker and all that.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's got to play better.
Speaker 11 (24:06):
Not the only one. A lot of guys in that line.
It's gonna take a while. It's like going to get
the real ID. If you're gonna line up Steelers who
left to play better. It's gonna take about four hours
to get through the line. But they're just you know.
I get that there are questions about the schematics. I
get that there are questions about the coaching. It's like
Patrick Queen said, win your reps, man, do your job,
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make plays.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
If you don't, you lose.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
I also think that they got to play complimentary football,
like just just how in years past the defense knew
that the offense was gonna struggle with Kenny Pickett and
Trubisky and all the rest.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
You got to pick it up.
Speaker 10 (24:45):
You got to know the defense is struggling right now,
and you gotta not settle for threes.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You got to put it.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
In the end zone early in games. Lean on teams,
maybe go up big.
Speaker 11 (24:56):
Maybe if Metcalf doesn't make that play, moving forward, you
go forward on four and two.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Why not, it's the first home start.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Going for You can't play this Mike Tomlin ball of
let's low scoring, win by one score football. It's got
to be a shootout and like you said, hope you
got the ball last.
Speaker 11 (25:14):
The other thing that's really alarming is the Cam Hayward
line quote. There's not a lot of fight in us
right now. And Patrick Queen talking about being timid and
guys losing their confidence and all the things that he said,
like buck up, there's ten for ten games to go.
You're in first place right now, but keep going away,
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you going You're gonna.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
End up in last place.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Is there a bet on FanDuel right now for whether
there'll be a player's only meeting this week? Because I'm
gonna go ahead and slam that odds are terrible.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Ping pong tables gone, gone gone.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
We're gonna donate them to the Ravens so they can
have them right all the way.
Speaker 11 (25:53):
They're going the schedule meeting and nobody will show up.
They go to the wrong room.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, in this room, this player goes.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
And I think they got a couple of things going
for him, and only a couple.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
They don't have to play Carrington Valentine again.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
There's that three. They are four and three in their
two games in first place. And you know the NFL
reshuffles every week, and it's yes, just because it happened
yesterday doesn't mean it's going to happen next Sunday. And
they got Aaron Rodgers man. I can't believe they're wasting
this I can't. I can't describe how impressed I am
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with this guy and how he is able to put
them in position to compete offensively if they just follow
the leader man.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But they have to establish the run more efficiently.
Speaker 11 (26:46):
They did last night in the first half, and they've
been running better lately.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I know, keep doing it.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
It opens up everything for Rogers and Jalen Warren wears
down defenses.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That dude is hard to tackle.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
That's another guy that never gives up a given f
you know what I mean, Like he always plays hard.
You can tell he wants to win. Gamewell two is
a real sad situation with him fumbling last night. That's sad,
but I mean real sad.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, but do you doubt his So it's okay, No,
it's okay. But I'm saying, do you think he didn't
have fight in him?
Speaker 12 (27:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
No, yeah, yeah, that happens. I do think he has
fight in him.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah, Like bad play by him. But like there's guys
on that defense. Do they want to keep playing football?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You got?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I mean, there's a couple of dudes who I think
are clearly riding out their careers in the secondary slazy.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Well, you know, Mike, and you're talking about the offense
too in the second half. So you have the so
these are the lemony snicket, what is it? Yeah, so
you have the off side. It wasn't called off side,
so you wind up punting it away. You wind up
with a field goal, next possession, your third possession, sack
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on the first play, right, so you're trying to catch
them with something.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Well, second and twenty, they just they can't get the
job done. And then the drive.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
You know, Mike just talked about, you have a third
and two, but now it's a third and seventeen because
of a penalty, and you know, they're just they.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Just saw an effort player.
Speaker 11 (28:24):
They I'm gonna go mess with this guy because I
feel like messling with him right because I'm bigger than
the team.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
They got one bad call, but they got one bad call,
which you can't you know, you can't say, you're, oh, man,
we would have won if it wasn't for that non.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Off side call. You can't say that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
But they shot themselves in the foot a couple of
times too, they and they couldn't overcome it in the
second half offensively, that great first half.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
One more thing about Rogers that drive they had at
the end of the first half where they scored the
touchdown thinks second and nine from the Green bay thirty six,
he had Roman Wilson won on one to the outside,
didn't take it through sideways to Calvin Austin.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
It was incomplete.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
Third and nine from the Green Bay thirty six had
the same coverage, but this time it was Calvin Austin.
Apparently he's trusted Austin more than he trusted Wilson, and
this was the underthrow went DPI.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But this is like Rogers sees this stuff.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
You know, he hadn't Metcalf one on one with my
funny Valentine in the end zone, Like he's gonna give
him a chance, but you know the defense can't give
up forty points a game.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Then he's he's not gonna matter quick. Frank will be back.
He's not there in his career.
Speaker 11 (29:34):
Anymore, but he could still be an effective, winning quarterback
if they just follow along.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
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Speaker 5 (30:38):
We're doing a power Hour, as we call it a
Sohour Power Hour, a Steeler Talk. It's Rob King voice
of the Steelers this morning as they are recovering from
last night's really embarrassing loss to the Colts. Frankly, that's
two prime time games in a row where they were embarrassed.
And Mike, it struck me that your dissertation you take
down or rather just illuminating people to the fact that
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you know, there's plenty of finger pointing to go around.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't think anybody woke up this morning.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Going f and DK metcalf, But you know what, all
of those salient points, and I think you should think
about like creating weekly bedtime stories for people to purchase
so they can tell their kids.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Because the way you presented that was very matter of
fact in a way.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
It is like, and let me tell you another thing,
and then he did this, and then he did this,
and it's a perfect.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Stuff. I mean, these kids are going to have issues.
Speaker 10 (31:32):
Yeah, maybe I can't sleep, nightmares, insomnia.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Again.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Giving up twenty one points in the fourth quarter at home,
Oh my god, that's non Steelers football.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
No, it is definitely not. But I think they the
second half. Seven in the first half, twenty eight in
the second.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
There are so many teams that respond to injury on
the defense and still get a performance.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I mean the Bengals did it well.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah, the injuries are no excuse. No, they're no excuse.
Everybody gets hurt. Everybody got everybody gets hurt. And Mike,
we're talking about too. Thirty five points and you missed
two field goals.
Speaker 11 (32:15):
Yeah, because your coaching staff decided to go with the
old kicker who'd been hurt, right, instead of the new
guy who the week before made a franchise record sixty
one yard field goal.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I no, we don't want him kicking.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think what you said earlier, though, Mike, is really
the tact that the Steelers have to take. It's that
the idea that you are the same team you thought
you were coming out in Week one needs to be abandoned.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
We kicked that around a lot in the pregame show yesterday.
It's going into the year. I thought it was going
to be like most years. Okay, defense is going to
be pretty bad and the offense needs to do just enough.
I'm one hundred and eighty degrees from that.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Oh yeah, well, it looked like that was going to
be the dynamic, and it's completely reversed.
Speaker 11 (32:59):
And I'm not normally one that panics quickly when evaluating
this stuff. I get what the NFL is and how
it reshuffles every week, and it's up and down. And
you know, Rogers was talking last week about refusing to
ride the roller coaster. But these two performances back to back,
I think are demanding of a response, a significant response.
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Try something different, because what they're doing is not working.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
The Steelers defense gave up thirty two points to the Jets,
thirty one points to the Seahawks, fourteen to the Patriots,
who fumbled it away five times.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, they had it knocked out of their hands five times.
I know, I know you want to give that. Okay, No,
A couple of those last night would have gone a
long way to a different results. Right, they're not getting that.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I needed five turnovers to they barely escape New England
with a win, and that's what they.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Got to be On defense.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
They're going to give up yards, but they got to
just make those erase plays.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
They gave up twenty one to the Vikings, nine to
the Browns, thirty three to the thirty five to the Packers.
And now you have the Colts next week at home,
the Chargers on the road, and the Chargers are kind
of turning things around after dealing with their injuries in
the backfield. Uh. And then you get Flacco on the
Bengals again and the Bears. The Bears are capable of
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putting up some points. I think they had a bad
game yesterday on the road and just kind of fell
flat and didn't know how to handle Snoop Huntly.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But Bills Ravens Dolphins, you didn't know how to handle
Snoop Untley. No, they were. I think they were getting
ready for a completely different offense. Maybe put NFL players
out there against them, But watch that.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I'm going to make excuses for the Bears because I
loved them going into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
They're not going to stop the run this week. I mean,
this is the best rushing team in the league. He's
got more touchdowns than anybody in the league.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Well, the point I'm getting to Bill is, I don't
think there's a whole lot of games that coming up
here that I like the Steelers in the way they're
playing right now. And what is my confident level that
they can turn things around defensively, offensively, even with all
the problems that you enumerated earlier, Mike, I think that
they can turn that around. But Rob, I mean, right now,
this is an uphill battle for Mike Tomlins to retain
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his no losing season status.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
It is hopefully they can turn it around quickly. I mean,
they've got to find a way. You know, we saw
the Ravens do that last year. They made some adjustments
in the middle of the season their defense was just awful,
and then they made some adjustments to Steelers. Right now, Look, man,
I agree with Mike about the offense. There's they got
to be able to play better complimentary football.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You need far fewer three.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And outs where you're just getting the defense back out
in the field again. But you got to find a
way to not give up thirty points again. And as
we mentioned, could have been forty in this one. This
was this You know, they've got to figure something out
between now in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Not just Taylor and what he's doing on the ground.
The Colts have a renewed Daniel Jones. Did you see
any of that coming? No, No, you know they eight
and nine last year.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
You know, maybe and they beat the Steelers last year,
as we remember, they were eight and nine, and.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Uh, you know, he's our newman, right.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
So we we maybe should have seen that there was
some capability there. But I didn't even think there was
capability there. But it just goes to show you how
a quarterback can lift everything up. Daniel Jones has been
phenomenal for them and has lifted everything up. And you know,
you keep thinking, well, they're not that good, and now
I think everyone thinks, yeah, they are that good.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
So it'll be another big test.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
You got to be killing yourself if you're the Vikings.
You had Donold and Danny Dimes last season. Well with
all of the injuries that they're suffering through right.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now, and Aaron Rodgers wanted to play there.
Speaker 12 (36:42):
Right, Well, they're going through the Bay yea. By the way,
they're going to go through the growing paint JJ McCarthy, right,
that's that's what It's gonna be, a growing paint season
for him.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
But I didn't see it coming again because you have
a lot of faith in that coach, right, But.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
They got weapons. Yeah, I got a lot of receivers.
Tyler Warren was a phenomenal drug. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
they got what I just meant, how good Danny Dimees
is doing this year.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, it's good environment for him. It's Indiana Jones now
Indian Extra Stadium.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
They're going to have a bulldozer competition on Saturday on
the field, so yeah, and then they're gonna do a BMX.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
Yeah, there's a Batman remake that they're gonna Yes, yeah,
they're gonna refilled.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
The Derby and then stomp the Broadway show.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That other than that, though, should be pretty good. Fine
walking around on stilts on the field. They get just
a little picked out Saturday. Hey, look, well it.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Was brand new then, that's right.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
They got the fresh paint, they got the fresh tracks.
Speaker 11 (37:55):
What their quarterback through for four hundred yards? And he
missed a couple.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
They weren't exactly playing.
Speaker 11 (38:02):
Uh, I think weren't playing a high school teams hurting.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean you got a little something going on.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
I know.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
How did you not see it early on? They were
gone to that kid to start the year. Yeah they
might be own defeated.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well, they still have possibilities on the table. How about
Kelly getting gassed? How about it? I'm laughing. He's taking
fifty six million home. Hah. Did he lose the southern accent? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (38:33):
I think he's gonna stop talking with a drawl. He
probably's not probably not gonna order gumbo when he gets home.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
Although those those buyouts for the coaches, did you ever
hear ed Orson's take on that?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Oh yeah, well they'll pay me fifty million to leave.
I got two questions, when do you want me to go?
And what dor should I use?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Thanks to Rob King, he ran to do another show
thanks to Jerry Do you liked him?
Speaker 13 (38:56):
Ben?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Tomorrow on the show, Charlie Batch will be joining us.
Jean Sterotorp lots talk about tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
God, did you see the Philly Giants thing? I heard
about it, I have not seen it.
Speaker 11 (39:08):
They ran a tush push Hurts extended the ball, which
if you do that on the goal line and breaks
the plane that touched over.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
If you're not going into the end zone, the play
is not over. They knocked it out of his.
Speaker 11 (39:20):
Hand and recovered it, recovered it and then they said, nah,
it's the Philly's ball, and uh Dabile challenged it. They said, no,
you can't challenge that, so they challenged again. He said,
I'm challenging for progress, like it just seems so pissed off.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Keep throwing challenging the challenge. I mean, what happens if
you're challenging, you're out of challenges. Like the Chris Webber thing,
the Michigan losing.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Everybody goes home happy Saturday night when they kicked our
asses all over.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I really look forward to the Steelers looking good in
front of the country. You know, we really showed our
arts the last two weeks on a national stage.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
To look forward, it really bothers. What's the next national game.
It's just a day game coming up.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
It's one o'clock. Yeah, it's one o'clock here, and I
think one o'clock or no.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
It's a primetime game against the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
That's a Sunday night game. They can win that. They
can win that game, can win any game.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
If a lot of their players get hurt, that would help,
namely Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Although now he's with that chicken. He's so happy. I
don't know. Maybe he's beer.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah, maybe he's drunk on beer and he'll be you know,
the opposite of whatever Taylor Swift is beer.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Michelle's up next to the electric launch at noon.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
The other thing, they make you stay up all night
and now nobody gets to sleep in the city of.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
Pittsburgh on They make it, They make you want to
do it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I don't want to stay.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
I don't want to sit there and watch Mike Tomlin's
entire press conference for twenty two minutes after the game
and just get more and more upset.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
It's cortisol shoots through my veins. Well, I just take
you get to sleep after one of those fight.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Oh wow, you.
Speaker 10 (41:17):
Guys slept, Yeah, because it pisses you off so much
that you gotta like walk it off.
Speaker 11 (41:22):
But even when they win, Like I can't just be
done working a game and I'll fall.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Asleep, Like it's just now you're buzzing.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, like Bill said, you gotta work it off. You
go for a walk.
Speaker 10 (41:33):
I used to put on the post game and just
walk around the neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Now it's getting a little cold for that.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
But see that would fire me up too much. They
get reinvested all over again.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
I heard the last two calls. One guy swore the
other one was snoring. Never shage, Pittsburgh.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
I'm finished.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
You stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't touch your face. I got
him tuch Pittsburgh, O day Berby.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
But now you guys call me Ronald?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Would you not eat my pants? Oh man?
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Whay goggle it.
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Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 14 (42:22):
The Steelers fell to four and three on the season
with a thirty five to twenty five defeet at the
hands of the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night football.
The Steelers held the lead at halftimes sixteen to seven,
but a twenty eight point second half explosion by the
Packers offense helped rally the Packers back to get the victory.
Spearheading the strong offensive performance was quarterback Jordan Love and
tight end Tucker Kraft. Love, who at one point in
the game strung together twenty straight pass completions, finished twenty
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nine of thirty seven for three hundred and sixty yards
and three passing touchdowns. Craft was certainly his favorite target
on the night. He was targeted nine times by Love,
converting seven into catches for one hundred and forty three
yards and getting into the end zone twice. The Steelers
strugg throughout the game to find an answer to Craft
in the Green Bay passing attack, and their defense has
now gone three straight games without forcing a turnover. On
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top of that, Sunday Night was the fourth instance of
the season that the team surrendered thirty plus points in
a game.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Aaron Rodgers turned into.
Speaker 14 (43:13):
Decent performance in his first meeting against his former team,
going for two hundred and nineteen yards and two touchdowns,
but it ultimately proved to be not enough to pull
out the victory. Things won't get any easier for the
Steelers next week, as the Indianapolis Colts bring their league
best seven to one record into town.
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Speaker 4 (00:24):
We'll throw out quickly to the right flat that it's completed,
to the tight end and into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Touchdown, Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Tucker Kraft a tight end and the Packers on national
tight end they get a touchdown from tight end Tucker Craft.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
The author of that play call and voice of the
Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King, joining us right now for a
Power hours.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh look at that. You the point because it wasn't
his fault. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Good editing
on that.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
By the way, that's the game. Last night was the
announcing oh Man.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
First half hour of this power hour of Steeler Talk,
brought you by Ford, your neighborhood Ford Store. The F
one fifty is the truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Well
they got trucked in the second half last night. Yeah,
and there is no shortage of reasons to be angry.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
If you're a Steelers fan right now.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I'm giving the offense a pass on just about everything,
even though there's plenty to not like about the execution
in the second half.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But the defense is so bad.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
It's like complaining about a hangnail when you've got, you know,
pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Let's yeah, I don't know how you fix this. Well,
the you know, the offense could have been better in
the second half, for sure. You know, at the at
halftime sixteen to seven, they're not running the ball. You
are running the ball against the you know, the second
best rush defense in the league. Look good, you're gonna
get the ball to begin the second half. It's sixteen
to seven. That was really the turning point. I mean
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the non off side against Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Look at it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It wouldn't have been a first down I think would
have made it third and three or something like that.
It would have been third and manageable team. I would
have been okay with Rum and Wilson catching that ball.
That would have been too There were a couple of
opportunities that slipped away. It's good to see him more
involved in the offense, but there were a couple of
there's a long win to DK metcalf that got knocked
away from him. I mean there were a touchdown, Yeah,
it would have been a touchdown. There were some plays
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the Steelers' offense left out in the field and then
you know, you pin him deep, you get a third
and long, and then that you know, that sort of
wounded duck ball up the right sideline to Craft that
went for fifty nine yards. That was like the turning
point of the game. But again, look at some point
you got to stem the tide somewhere. You've either got
to respond there and go on a long drive, or
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you've got to come up with a stop and get
the ball back, or you've got to create a turnover.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They not only didn't create a turnover yesterday.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I know the Packers had two balls in the on
the ground that the Steelers didn't recover, and so that's
you know, you could call that a little bit of
bad luck perhaps, but they didn't do anything. They didn't
get any pressure on Love, they didn't create any turnovers.
And so I mean, ultimately, when you give up twenty
eight points and a half of football, you're not gonna win.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Well, they're not getting deep into the opponents side of
the field. Ever, everyone keeps saying, like the drivestalled, they're
not much of a drive when you're banging fifty six
yard field goals, right.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
The other thing that that's like two first downs. Yeah,
Aaron Aaron rodd you know, they called it the high
red zone. Aaron Rodgers called it the high reds. They
got to be better there. They just they stalled, all
their drives stalled. I mean, you've, you know, thank goodness
for for Boswell. I mean, think about the fact that
they missed two field goals, right, you know they could
have to make they could have had forty last night. Yeah,
think about that, they could have forty points last night.
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They missed field goals. And you have Boswell, who's just
incredible banging field goals through for you. He's a great
weapon for you. But you can't rely on that. You can't.
It's you know, and again I don't know whether I
don't know whether they're you know, what they're going to
do here, if they're going to try to, you know,
change their game plan or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
But it's hard right now.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I think if you're the Steelers to trust that a
defense that's given up thirty or more points four times
in seven games, is gonna do what they've historically done,
which is win the game for you put it away,
you know, I mean often in the last several years,
when the students have had you know, other quarterbacks, you know,
between Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers, guys that maybe you
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didn't trust offensively on a third and six in a
game you're winning by three, so you punt it away
and trusted defense is gonna stop them. Well, this defense
is given up over thirty points. I mean, I'm not
giving it. This is no revelation. Just look at the numbers.
They've given up more than thirty points four times in
seven games.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Kenger, I'm just so fed up with seeing different players
on the field defensively every down.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Isn't it time for them to just stick with Holcombe
or Wilson or Peppers or Thornhill or Clark, Like, Let's
pick some defensive players and let them get in the
rhythm and let that communication actually start to work, because
I think what's lost in the translation of it all
is the constant changing of personnel.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
It looks a situational football that allows the other team
to play that same chess game with you.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, I mean, it's certainly. I mean, there's a lot
of things on defense, and so you know when you're
seeing guys, you know, look, people have said too many substitutions.
People have said they're too slow right in the secondary,
in the back end, you have these veteran guys you
brought in with great resumes, but they're too slow. And
we saw Tucker Craft running away from people at the
tight end position last night. Well we're not talking about
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Golden and Watson, who can fly, we're talking about the
tight end. He's a good one, as we saw last night,
but he's running away from people on and so you're
getting other teams are able to find what I'm sure
they're perceiving as mismatches, either schematically or personnel wise. You know,
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I have Look, they made big plays down the field,
but they also just simply threw balls into the flat
and we're picking up ten twelve yards a rip on
plays that. You know, you throw a ball out in
the flat, it's first down. If you get six, you're pleased, right, Hey,
second and four, that's a really good play in the flat.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It just felt like they were getting more.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I haven't looked back at the numbers, but it felt
like they were getting a lot more than that in
the flat didn't.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Coach Tomlin kind of refute that in the post game
he was asked about it, He's like, Ah, that's not
why we gave up three hundred yards passing.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, because they did give up.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, you give up a fifty nine yard at
a craft and you give up other long plays that
you don't want to give up, and that's you know,
those make the yard to jad up.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But it was all part of it.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I mean, I think the point is that, you know,
there's a lot of things like that was my point.
There's a lot you know, so last week in Cincinnati, well,
you don't take away Chase, you don't take away Higgins.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But you also don't take away their running game. And
so teams are they okay job with that?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
In the especially they did an excellent job on Jacob's
throughout the game. And then you know, Wilson started to
run the ball more effectively in the second half. But
again at halftime, if you told me, hey, sixteen to seven,
this is these are the rushing totals, right the Steelers
at eighty one.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think the Packers had they had less than twenty.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I think, you know, here's the score, and you get
the ball to begin the second half. Okay, you know,
let's march down the field. Maybe stop, you know, settling
for a field goal. You punch one in and it's
twenty three to seven. Instead you go three and out.
You don't get a call. There's one that I'm sure
Roman Wilson it was a good play, but I think
it was Nixon defensively, yeah, you know, Wills. I'm sure
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Roman would like to have that one back. Perhaps it
was a good play by Nixon though too. He's a
two time pro bowler, and there were some plays the
offense left out there. But ultimately, you know, when you
score twenty five points, you're gonna win a good portion
of your games. The Steelers almost always win them when
they score more than twenty almost always. And this is
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back to back weeks when that didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Why do you think Arthur Smith came out in the
second half and got away from the running game, which
was paying dividends in the first half.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Well, I think some of it, and again I have
to would have to go back and look at each play,
but some of it was penalties, you know, the penalties
the Steelers had. The Steelers didn't rack up like one
hundred yards of penalties, but it felt like every penalty
was just a killer they got themselves, you know, there
was there were two after the whistle calls, one on
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herbing on the punt that all of a sudden, now
when you're trying to stem the tide that gets the
Packers of the ball at your forty five yard line,
Well that's troublesome. And then you then on a draft
on a drive later in the fourth, you know you've
got the ball and you're and you're trying to you're
trying to, you know, make it third and manageable, and
instead after the play you get a fifteen yard penalty.
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So now you have second in law and so second
in like eighteen or something, and they're just not equipped
to overcome those kind of things offensively. So I think
the penalties there weren't a ton of them, but they
really hurt.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
The Steelers in this game too. When they became one dimensional.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It was over too because the pass rusher, like you said,
it was just insane.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
This is was rather the turning point of the game.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Love in the shotgun gets the snap Steelers bringing pressure.
Love under duress flings it up, feel that it's.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
Caught by Craft a lofting ball, and he brings it
in hustling down the right sideline, dragging defenders, gets inside
the thirty all the way down to the twenty six
yard line. It was a lame duck heaved up in
the air by Love.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And it's Craft who makes the adjustment to come back
and make the catch and get it all the way
down to the twenty six yard line where de Shawn
Elliott now is writhing in pain.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Thornhill lets him get almost thirty yards extra by not
wrapping him up there. Thornhill also misjudges the thirty three
yarder to Watson later in the game, which was also
you know, if Russ Wilson has the moonball, Jordan Love's
got the jump ball.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, And then at the end of that Elliott got hurt, right,
And that's you know, we we've seen that movie with
at Elliott this year and it hasn't been good.
Speaker 9 (10:03):
I know.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
But I was saying this earlier with all of those
high priced, big name defensive stars, the fact that it's
Deshaun Elliott that makes the Jenga tower fall for them,
defensively is perplexing to me.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, the I think it is safe to say, and
I don't think anybody. I don't see how you could
disagree with the fact that the whole does not seem
to equal to some of its parts right now. I mean,
you have very good players on that defense and for
whatever reason. Again, I'm not going to use adjectives to
describe it. I'm just going to say they've given up
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thirty or more points in four out of seven games.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So you've got star power.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You've got guys you've given contract extensions to, You've got
guys that you've invested high draft picks in, and this
is not what you expected to say?
Speaker 10 (10:52):
Is it like in baseball where just a whole team
is slumping like it's contagious? Because we talked the last
break with Jerry did about TJ. Watt not winning nearly enough,
not being impactful. But part of it is that all
the attention he's getting, somebody else has got to win
and nobody else on that line is winning it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
They had a couple of moments in this game, and
including that pass that loved just through. There were some
moments last week in Cincinnati in which the Steelers, who
have one of the heavier blitz percentages in the NFL
this year, aren't getting home. So I think the notion
that a lot of us had coming in was you
go out and get Ramsey. You have sleigh, you have porter.
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This equips you to come up and play some brighter
coverage right now. This allows you to unleash the blitz.
So you go, your quarterback, you see the blitz coming,
You go to throw. Oh, he's not open because he's
being pressed with man coverage. Now in that second that
you have to try to look somewhere else or double clutch.
It too late, the blitz has gotten home and the
pass rush has gotten home, and neither one of those
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things has been true. You know, the quarterback has been
able to stop throw quickly and find open receivers or
if he has to think again, he's got time. The
last couple of weeks, the blitz just hasn't gotten home.
You know what what is the issue? I don't know,
but I don't think it's you talk about. You know
you just mentioned you know personnel, you know, uh, guys
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running in and out of the field. You know, teams
being able to use their best weapons to exploit your defense.
There's just a litany of issues right now, and they've
got to get it fixed because I mean this is,
you know, statistically, I believe they have the worst I
haven't seen the updated SATs.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I believe they have the worst pass defense in the league,
you know.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And and I mean it's uh, it's a tough way
to tough way to live. So what they're gonna do
and what the core issues are, it's difficult for me
to say, because I think there's more than.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
One Rob King voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers here on
your radio home with the Black and Gold one on
two point five d v E. The worst pass defense
in the league is the Cowboys, okay, and next worst
is the Steelers. But good news, we're full two yards
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better a game than those guys right now, one and
a half yard still.
Speaker 10 (13:18):
Here comes Michael Pittman, junior Tyler Warren and a best
running game in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, I mean, suddenly the Colts are formidable, right and
this has got it. I mean, look, man, you know
when the Steelers were off to the four and one start,
people said, and with some justification, look you know who
they really beaten.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's that's any good.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Right, you played Seattle, you lost to them. You know
you got to you got you know, the Vikings, and
you get a couple of decent wins on your resume.
But what's gonna happen when you get into the teeth
of the schedule. And you know, my feeling has always
been like, just win the games early and you'll figure
out where you are and continue to progress. And now
you've lost too in a row, and you've got the
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top team in the AFC coming in and the Colts,
and then you got to go on the road to
the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You still haven't played the Bills.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You have two games against the Ravens, who are gonna
get everybody back and healthy. I mean, you know, at
least say the healthy one. This is life, This is
life in the NFL. But you've got to reverse the trend.
Lately you're still in first place. That's great. You've got
to reverse the trend because that won't last if you
continue to play like this.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
They've got to they've got to find a way to
play better defense.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
I think the issues are much bigger than anything that
we can really tackle, right, And this is what the
frustrating thing about is I think we're going to be
like talking about so much involving personnel and execution and
things like that. As the Steelers middle their way through
the muddle their way to the middle, I should say again,
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And I honestly think that it's the message just gets lost.
Mike Sullivan was a great coach. He is now a
New York Rangers coach and not doing so great there
by the way, and the guy here doing great. I
just wonder if this message is getting through anymore, if
Mike Tomlin is as effective as he's capable of being.
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Sometimes it's just that it stops resonating. It's it can
be that simple. It doesn't have to have anything to
do with ability. Everyone keeps saying, oh, he's gonna he'll
get snapped up in a second. And I know that
it's the middle of the season right now, or almost
of the middle of the season here, but that's gotta
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be something that people are thinking about within the organization,
is are we gonna keep doing this every year?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, look, they need to, they need to make some adjustments.
And you know when I when when we talk about this.
So I think that each each season needs to be
judged on its own merit, you know, think about I mean,
just look around the NFL and and tell me what
happens to teams when they don't have a really good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Point to me, the teams that are winning without a
really quarterback. But that's not their problem. What's that? No?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
No, no, But I'm saying that's what I'm saying. You
have to judge each season individually. It has been their
problem since Ben really probably since Ben surgery.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It has been their problem, right for six seven years.
And I mean, you know, Kevin Stefanski has won two
Coaches of the Year awards. Yeah, and his record is
what eight games below five hundred. He's had two winning seasons,
He's won Coach of the Year both the years. What's
happened the other three years in Cleveland disaster? And that's
and that's that's a coach of the year. And who
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doesn't have a quarterback and can't win a game? And
so when when I when I think about Mike Tomlin
and what he's done, he has won games without quarterbacks.
I think most guys in the league can't do that.
So what's gonna happen? Now, Let's see, look right now,
the sky is falling the defense is not good, and
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it's and you've lost two games in a row, and
you're running.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Into the teeth of your schedule, games in front of
national audiences, embarrassing the shield, the organization.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, let's see what happens over the next stretch of games,
and let's see if they can, if they can turn
this thing around. I mean, you know, listen, we don't
want to again. I think there's a lot to like.
But but after these last two games, it does have
you scratching your head, particularly with the defense.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, you know, just a little emotional this morning. We
haven't slept. I mean two weeks ago.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
Before that Bengals game, we were talking about the Steelers
being the number one seed in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I know, yeah, Now now you gotta find it. Now
you want to find her with a coach, the getting
all the players, you gotta regroup. I do like the
way I will see this. I do like the way
the offense is trending. I think there's a lot of
things to like.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
You know, when you when you talk about you know,
and I always talk about that first third of the season,
just win games, right, and then where you start to
trend in the middle third, of the season and then
you get into December and you got to start jocking
for playoff position if you're one of those contenders. I
think the offense is doing that. I think the offense
is playing well enough to win, and I think the
offense is trending in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
They just got to figure out the defense. We're twenty
eighth and total defense, by the way.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, and the yardage I'm sure for the Steelers isn't
great either, But again, yardages and everything, and I'm talking
about for the offense, yardages and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
They're scoring some points.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
They're scoring enough points to win, and they're definitely scoring
enough points to win with traditional Steelers defenses. They're just
not getting a traditional Steelers defense.
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I want to take a little bit of a different
approach regarding where they are and how they can get
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out of it. If they can get out, Okay, the
defense is not going seven games in. I'm gonna go
way out on a limb and say the defense is
not going to be historian.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Now, this is what it is. They don't have the people.
Speaker 11 (19:53):
If they can figure out a way to solidify the
secondary a little bit, ben but don't break. Get back
to getting a key tar over a key sack when
you need one.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They look like Keystone cops out there.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
They have a chance to be just barely good enough. Yeah,
the offense has got to kick it in a gear
the rest of the way. If they're gonna win games,
they're gonna be scoring points. They are becoming the old
Bengals or maybe the current the current Bengals. You can
light it up, but you can't stop anybody. You just
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hope you get the ball last, or you make one
more play than they do.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
And you know, we talked a lot after the Bengals
game about DK Metcalf getting that ball ripped out of
his hands along the sidelines late in the second quarter. Yeah,
last night, a couple of plays. And this might sound
like I'm picking on Metcalf. Clearly there are many problems
and they are great, but they brought Dk Metcalf here
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to be the stud, the Hammhager, the game changing wide receiver,
and last night They got a second and five at
the Packers twenty three first possession and they run, you know,
a little flanker screen to Metcalf. He gets called for
offensive pass interference. They lose ten yards, end up kicking
a field goal instead of maybe scoring a touchdown. The
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guy covering him was named Carrington Valentine, who is a
seventh round pick out of Kentucky in twenty twenty three,
six foot, one hundred and eighty nine pounds. Now, he
has started twenty one career games going in the last night,
out of the thirty nineties played, he started the opener,
and then the Packers started a guy by naming Nate
Hobbs at corner. Up until last night, Hobbs was kneeling
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a little bit of a knee injury. He was full
participant in practice, but they started Valentine. Valentine beats Metcalf onner.
You got to interfere offensively with a seventh round guy
out of Kentucky and your DK Metcalf.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That cost the Steelers.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
Then let's fast forward to the second quarter, third and
three from the Green Bay thirty two. Rogers reads single coverage,
takes the shot deep, going for the throat going for
a touchdown Metcalf has in his hands and then it
gets knocked out by I guess who, Carrington Valentine.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
That sounds like a like a soap opera character. If
you're gonna go in to this game, but he was dead.
If you're this game, call the corner, but not for me.
Speaker 11 (22:29):
If you feeling wain to this game and tell me
DK Metcalf is gonna get multiple shots at Carrington Valentine.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'm gonna like DK Metcalf's chances, oh for two and those.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
Someone don't know much about Carrington Valentine, do you No?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
No, I don't know anything, Valentine.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Maybe this guy's going to the Hall Fame.
Speaker 11 (22:48):
Uh maybe the Green Bay guy in the pregame show
is gonna rewrite my funny Valentine and sing his praises next.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Week, Havington Valentine.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
Now, let's go to the fourth quarter. All right, it's
starting to get a little wobbly. It's to get it's no,
it gets world. Okay, it's twenty nine to nineteen, but
there's still ten to fifty one left when the Steelers
get the ball back, plenty of time for two possessions
and to get things going in the other direction. Jalen
Warren runs for five yards on second and seven, So
now it's third and two at the Pittsburgh thirty three.
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But wait, there's more unnecessary roughness personal foul after the
play on number four, DK Metcalf. The down counts back
up fifteen yards. Now it's third and seventeen possession torpedoed.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That was a killer, for sure.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
Can't be having this stuff from DK me now again,
can't be having this stuff from a lot of guys.
But if we're looking at this through the lens of
the offense has to save them, you really can't have
this stuff.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
From this Great players have to be great.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
That's why they should have kept George Pickens to you know,
calm down, DK Metcalf, You know, oh boy.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Saying I mean, I think the world of him is
a player.
Speaker 11 (23:59):
I was extacted when they acquired him, and he's been
nothing but great with us, and I think he's a
hard worker and all that.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's got to play better.
Speaker 11 (24:06):
Not the only one. A lot of guys in that line.
It's gonna take a while. It's like going to get
the real ID. If you're gonna line up Steelers who
left to play better. It's gonna take about four hours
to get through the line. But they're just you know.
I get that there are questions about the schematics. I
get that there are questions about the coaching. It's like
Patrick Queen said, win your reps, man, do your job,
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make plays.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
If you don't, you lose.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
I also think that they got to play complimentary football,
like just just how in years past the defense knew
that the offense was gonna struggle with Kenny Pickett and
Trubisky and all the rest.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
You got to pick it up.
Speaker 10 (24:45):
You got to know the defense is struggling right now,
and you gotta not settle for threes.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You got to put it.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
In the end zone early in games. Lean on teams,
maybe go up big.
Speaker 11 (24:56):
Maybe if Metcalf doesn't make that play, moving forward, you
go forward on four and two.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Why not, it's the first home start.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Going for You can't play this Mike Tomlin ball of
let's low scoring, win by one score football. It's got
to be a shootout and like you said, hope you
got the ball last.
Speaker 11 (25:14):
The other thing that's really alarming is the Cam Hayward
line quote. There's not a lot of fight in us
right now. And Patrick Queen talking about being timid and
guys losing their confidence and all the things that he said,
like buck up, there's ten for ten games to go.
You're in first place right now, but keep going away,
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you going You're gonna.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
End up in last place.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Is there a bet on FanDuel right now for whether
there'll be a player's only meeting this week? Because I'm
gonna go ahead and slam that odds are terrible.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Ping pong tables gone, gone gone.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
We're gonna donate them to the Ravens so they can
have them right all the way.
Speaker 11 (25:53):
They're going the schedule meeting and nobody will show up.
They go to the wrong room.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, in this room, this player goes.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
And I think they got a couple of things going
for him, and only a couple.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
They don't have to play Carrington Valentine again.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
There's that three. They are four and three in their
two games in first place. And you know the NFL
reshuffles every week, and it's yes, just because it happened
yesterday doesn't mean it's going to happen next Sunday. And
they got Aaron Rodgers man. I can't believe they're wasting
this I can't. I can't describe how impressed I am
(26:33):
with this guy and how he is able to put
them in position to compete offensively if they just follow
the leader man.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But they have to establish the run more efficiently.
Speaker 11 (26:46):
They did last night in the first half, and they've
been running better lately.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I know, keep doing it.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
It opens up everything for Rogers and Jalen Warren wears
down defenses.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That dude is hard to tackle.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
That's another guy that never gives up a given f
you know what I mean, Like he always plays hard.
You can tell he wants to win. Gamewell two is
a real sad situation with him fumbling last night. That's sad,
but I mean real sad.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, but do you doubt his So it's okay, No,
it's okay. But I'm saying, do you think he didn't
have fight in him?
Speaker 12 (27:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
No, yeah, yeah, that happens. I do think he has
fight in him.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah, Like bad play by him. But like there's guys
on that defense. Do they want to keep playing football?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You got?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I mean, there's a couple of dudes who I think
are clearly riding out their careers in the secondary slazy.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Well, you know, Mike, and you're talking about the offense
too in the second half. So you have the so
these are the lemony snicket, what is it? Yeah, so
you have the off side. It wasn't called off side,
so you wind up punting it away. You wind up
with a field goal, next possession, your third possession, sack
(28:06):
on the first play, right, so you're trying to catch
them with something.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Well, second and twenty, they just they can't get the
job done. And then the drive.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
You know, Mike just talked about, you have a third
and two, but now it's a third and seventeen because
of a penalty, and you know, they're just they.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Just saw an effort player.
Speaker 11 (28:24):
They I'm gonna go mess with this guy because I
feel like messling with him right because I'm bigger than
the team.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
They got one bad call, but they got one bad call,
which you can't you know, you can't say, you're, oh, man,
we would have won if it wasn't for that non.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Off side call. You can't say that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
But they shot themselves in the foot a couple of
times too, they and they couldn't overcome it in the
second half offensively, that great first half.
Speaker 11 (28:45):
One more thing about Rogers that drive they had at
the end of the first half where they scored the
touchdown thinks second and nine from the Green bay thirty six,
he had Roman Wilson won on one to the outside,
didn't take it through sideways to Calvin Austin.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
It was incomplete.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
Third and nine from the Green Bay thirty six had
the same coverage, but this time it was Calvin Austin.
Apparently he's trusted Austin more than he trusted Wilson, and
this was the underthrow went DPI.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But this is like Rogers sees this stuff.
Speaker 11 (29:19):
You know, he hadn't Metcalf one on one with my
funny Valentine in the end zone, Like he's gonna give
him a chance, but you know the defense can't give
up forty points a game.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Then he's he's not gonna matter quick. Frank will be back.
He's not there in his career.
Speaker 11 (29:34):
Anymore, but he could still be an effective, winning quarterback
if they just follow along.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
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Speaker 5 (30:38):
We're doing a power Hour, as we call it a
Sohour Power Hour, a Steeler Talk. It's Rob King voice
of the Steelers this morning as they are recovering from
last night's really embarrassing loss to the Colts. Frankly, that's
two prime time games in a row where they were embarrassed.
And Mike, it struck me that your dissertation you take
down or rather just illuminating people to the fact that
(31:03):
you know, there's plenty of finger pointing to go around.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't think anybody woke up this morning.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Going f and DK metcalf, But you know what, all
of those salient points, and I think you should think
about like creating weekly bedtime stories for people to purchase
so they can tell their kids.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Because the way you presented that was very matter of
fact in a way.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
It is like, and let me tell you another thing,
and then he did this, and then he did this,
and it's a perfect.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Stuff. I mean, these kids are going to have issues.
Speaker 10 (31:32):
Yeah, maybe I can't sleep, nightmares, insomnia.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Again.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Giving up twenty one points in the fourth quarter at home,
Oh my god, that's non Steelers football.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
No, it is definitely not. But I think they the
second half. Seven in the first half, twenty eight in
the second.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
There are so many teams that respond to injury on
the defense and still get a performance.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I mean the Bengals did it well.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah, the injuries are no excuse. No, they're no excuse.
Everybody gets hurt. Everybody got everybody gets hurt. And Mike,
we're talking about too. Thirty five points and you missed
two field goals.
Speaker 11 (32:15):
Yeah, because your coaching staff decided to go with the
old kicker who'd been hurt, right, instead of the new
guy who the week before made a franchise record sixty
one yard field goal.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I no, we don't want him kicking.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think what you said earlier, though, Mike, is really
the tact that the Steelers have to take. It's that
the idea that you are the same team you thought
you were coming out in Week one needs to be abandoned.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
We kicked that around a lot in the pregame show yesterday.
It's going into the year. I thought it was going
to be like most years. Okay, defense is going to
be pretty bad and the offense needs to do just enough.
I'm one hundred and eighty degrees from that.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Oh yeah, well, it looked like that was going to
be the dynamic, and it's completely reversed.
Speaker 11 (32:59):
And I'm not normally one that panics quickly when evaluating
this stuff. I get what the NFL is and how
it reshuffles every week, and it's up and down. And
you know, Rogers was talking last week about refusing to
ride the roller coaster. But these two performances back to back,
I think are demanding of a response, a significant response.
(33:22):
Try something different, because what they're doing is not working.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
The Steelers defense gave up thirty two points to the Jets,
thirty one points to the Seahawks, fourteen to the Patriots,
who fumbled it away five times.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, they had it knocked out of their hands five times.
I know, I know you want to give that. Okay, No,
A couple of those last night would have gone a
long way to a different results. Right, they're not getting that.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I needed five turnovers to they barely escape New England
with a win, and that's what they.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Got to be On defense.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
They're going to give up yards, but they got to
just make those erase plays.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
They gave up twenty one to the Vikings, nine to
the Browns, thirty three to the thirty five to the Packers.
And now you have the Colts next week at home,
the Chargers on the road, and the Chargers are kind
of turning things around after dealing with their injuries in
the backfield. Uh. And then you get Flacco on the
Bengals again and the Bears. The Bears are capable of
(34:16):
putting up some points. I think they had a bad
game yesterday on the road and just kind of fell
flat and didn't know how to handle Snoop Huntly.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But Bills Ravens Dolphins, you didn't know how to handle
Snoop Untley. No, they were. I think they were getting
ready for a completely different offense. Maybe put NFL players
out there against them, But watch that.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I'm going to make excuses for the Bears because I
loved them going into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
They're not going to stop the run this week. I mean,
this is the best rushing team in the league. He's
got more touchdowns than anybody in the league.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Well, the point I'm getting to Bill is, I don't
think there's a whole lot of games that coming up
here that I like the Steelers in the way they're
playing right now. And what is my confident level that
they can turn things around defensively, offensively, even with all
the problems that you enumerated earlier, Mike, I think that
they can turn that around. But Rob, I mean, right now,
this is an uphill battle for Mike Tomlins to retain
(35:12):
his no losing season status.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
It is hopefully they can turn it around quickly. I mean,
they've got to find a way. You know, we saw
the Ravens do that last year. They made some adjustments
in the middle of the season their defense was just awful,
and then they made some adjustments to Steelers. Right now, Look, man,
I agree with Mike about the offense. There's they got
to be able to play better complimentary football.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You need far fewer three.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And outs where you're just getting the defense back out
in the field again. But you got to find a
way to not give up thirty points again. And as
we mentioned, could have been forty in this one. This
was this You know, they've got to figure something out
between now in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Not just Taylor and what he's doing on the ground.
The Colts have a renewed Daniel Jones. Did you see
any of that coming? No, No, you know they eight
and nine last year.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
You know, maybe and they beat the Steelers last year,
as we remember, they were eight and nine, and.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Uh, you know, he's our newman, right.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
So we we maybe should have seen that there was
some capability there. But I didn't even think there was
capability there. But it just goes to show you how
a quarterback can lift everything up. Daniel Jones has been
phenomenal for them and has lifted everything up. And you know,
you keep thinking, well, they're not that good, and now
I think everyone thinks, yeah, they are that good.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
So it'll be another big test.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
You got to be killing yourself if you're the Vikings.
You had Donold and Danny Dimes last season. Well with
all of the injuries that they're suffering through right.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now, and Aaron Rodgers wanted to play there.
Speaker 12 (36:42):
Right, Well, they're going through the Bay yea. By the way,
they're going to go through the growing paint JJ McCarthy, right,
that's that's what It's gonna be, a growing paint season
for him.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
But I didn't see it coming again because you have
a lot of faith in that coach, right, But.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
They got weapons. Yeah, I got a lot of receivers.
Tyler Warren was a phenomenal drug. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
they got what I just meant, how good Danny Dimees
is doing this year.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, it's good environment for him. It's Indiana Jones now
Indian Extra Stadium.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
They're going to have a bulldozer competition on Saturday on
the field, so yeah, and then they're gonna do a BMX.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
Yeah, there's a Batman remake that they're gonna Yes, yeah,
they're gonna refilled.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
The Derby and then stomp the Broadway show.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That other than that, though, should be pretty good. Fine
walking around on stilts on the field. They get just
a little picked out Saturday. Hey, look, well it.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Was brand new then, that's right.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
They got the fresh paint, they got the fresh tracks.
Speaker 11 (37:55):
What their quarterback through for four hundred yards? And he
missed a couple.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
They weren't exactly playing.
Speaker 11 (38:02):
Uh, I think weren't playing a high school teams hurting.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean you got a little something going on.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
I know.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
How did you not see it early on? They were
gone to that kid to start the year. Yeah they
might be own defeated.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well, they still have possibilities on the table. How about
Kelly getting gassed? How about it? I'm laughing. He's taking
fifty six million home. Hah. Did he lose the southern accent? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (38:33):
I think he's gonna stop talking with a drawl. He
probably's not probably not gonna order gumbo when he gets home.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
Although those those buyouts for the coaches, did you ever
hear ed Orson's take on that?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Oh yeah, well they'll pay me fifty million to leave.
I got two questions, when do you want me to go?
And what dor should I use?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Thanks to Rob King, he ran to do another show
thanks to Jerry Do you liked him?
Speaker 13 (38:56):
Ben?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Tomorrow on the show, Charlie Batch will be joining us.
Jean Sterotorp lots talk about tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
God, did you see the Philly Giants thing? I heard
about it, I have not seen it.
Speaker 11 (39:08):
They ran a tush push Hurts extended the ball, which
if you do that on the goal line and breaks
the plane that touched over.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
If you're not going into the end zone, the play
is not over. They knocked it out of his.
Speaker 11 (39:20):
Hand and recovered it, recovered it and then they said, nah,
it's the Philly's ball, and uh Dabile challenged it. They said, no,
you can't challenge that, so they challenged again. He said,
I'm challenging for progress, like it just seems so pissed off.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Keep throwing challenging the challenge. I mean, what happens if
you're challenging, you're out of challenges. Like the Chris Webber thing,
the Michigan losing.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Everybody goes home happy Saturday night when they kicked our
asses all over.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I really look forward to the Steelers looking good in
front of the country. You know, we really showed our
arts the last two weeks on a national stage.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
To look forward, it really bothers. What's the next national game.
It's just a day game coming up.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
It's one o'clock. Yeah, it's one o'clock here, and I
think one o'clock or no.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
It's a primetime game against the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
That's a Sunday night game. They can win that. They
can win that game, can win any game.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
If a lot of their players get hurt, that would help,
namely Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Although now he's with that chicken. He's so happy. I
don't know. Maybe he's beer.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah, maybe he's drunk on beer and he'll be you know,
the opposite of whatever Taylor Swift is beer.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Michelle's up next to the electric launch at noon.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
The other thing, they make you stay up all night
and now nobody gets to sleep in the city of.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
Pittsburgh on They make it, They make you want to
do it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I don't want to stay.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
I don't want to sit there and watch Mike Tomlin's
entire press conference for twenty two minutes after the game
and just get more and more upset.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
It's cortisol shoots through my veins. Well, I just take
you get to sleep after one of those fight.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Oh wow, you.
Speaker 10 (41:17):
Guys slept, Yeah, because it pisses you off so much
that you gotta like walk it off.
Speaker 11 (41:22):
But even when they win, Like I can't just be
done working a game and I'll fall.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Asleep, Like it's just now you're buzzing.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, like Bill said, you gotta work it off. You
go for a walk.
Speaker 10 (41:33):
I used to put on the post game and just
walk around the neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Now it's getting a little cold for that.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
But see that would fire me up too much. They
get reinvested all over again.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
I heard the last two calls. One guy swore the
other one was snoring. Never shage, Pittsburgh.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
I'm finished.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
You stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't touch your face. I got
him tuch Pittsburgh, O day Berby.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
But now you guys call me Ronald?
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Would you not eat my pants? Oh man?
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Whay goggle it.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought
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Speaker 2 (42:21):
Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 14 (42:22):
The Steelers fell to four and three on the season
with a thirty five to twenty five defeet at the
hands of the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night football.
The Steelers held the lead at halftimes sixteen to seven,
but a twenty eight point second half explosion by the
Packers offense helped rally the Packers back to get the victory.
Spearheading the strong offensive performance was quarterback Jordan Love and
tight end Tucker Kraft. Love, who at one point in
the game strung together twenty straight pass completions, finished twenty
(42:46):
nine of thirty seven for three hundred and sixty yards
and three passing touchdowns. Craft was certainly his favorite target
on the night. He was targeted nine times by Love,
converting seven into catches for one hundred and forty three
yards and getting into the end zone twice. The Steelers
strugg throughout the game to find an answer to Craft
in the Green Bay passing attack, and their defense has
now gone three straight games without forcing a turnover. On
(43:07):
top of that, Sunday Night was the fourth instance of
the season that the team surrendered thirty plus points in
a game.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Aaron Rodgers turned into.
Speaker 14 (43:13):
Decent performance in his first meeting against his former team,
going for two hundred and nineteen yards and two touchdowns,
but it ultimately proved to be not enough to pull
out the victory. Things won't get any easier for the
Steelers next week, as the Indianapolis Colts bring their league
best seven to one record into town.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm Tom Opferman with the Steelers Report at FNB.
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