10.27.25 Randy Baumann and the DVE Morning Show FULL SHOW

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Penguin's writer Seth Warbaugh had the best tweet of the
night in regards to Tucker Craft's performance. Craft hasn't impacted
the North Shore this much since it bought Hines.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I mean, it's a great line. It is a great line.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Brutal night for your Pittsburgh Steelers. It looks like the
best tight end that ever played the game. I think
all tight ends who play against the Steelers look like that,
and right now the Steelers are in I don't want
to like get all panicky, but it is only a
few hours after the game, so permit us to be
a little hyperbolic this morning. Free Fall is the word
I'm going to use. It looks like we're in a

(00:33):
free fall.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Defensively, they can't stop anyone.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Last night they stopped the run and instead they let
Jordan Love throw just lobs up in the air and
wherever they came down, it landed in the arms of
a Green Bay Packer.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Crafts hands ran down the field and probably ended to
Jean Elliott season.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And Elliott I think got pushed off on that, but
his reaction to it was terrible, just like hands up
in the air, Like, oh, I didn't commit a penalty here, Like, yeah,
I mean at that point, tackle bring him down.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Take the penalty.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I think that one ended up going for fifty eight
yards or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It was just hard to bring down man. He had
a lot of y act last night. Third and long.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
That was third and long from way back in their territory,
and that was that was the shift in the game
that you just weren't going to come back from. At
that point, the Steelers get embarrassed, quite frankly embarrassed.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, twenty one points in the fourth quarter is unacceptable,
not if you want to be a top tier defense.
I mean you, I mean, you just can't play a
game like that.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Thirty five to twenty five. And it wasn't that close
a gunm touchdown.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
They missed a ton of field well, they missed at
least two field goals. No, the Steelers, like early in
that game, I tweeted out at eight forty, this game
is already pissing me off because it's just the way
that they were playing, the way that drives were stalling,
the way that they were just missing tackles.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I was like, this is not a good sign. Early
in this game.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
They're going to come unglued, and they did twenty eight
second point like second half points.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, well, Boz is not kicking thirty yard field goals.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
They're not marching.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Down that He's kicking fifty six yard field goals, fifty
yardfield goals, forty eight yard field goals, fifty six yard
field goals.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
They're not marching down the field.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
And the offense is the best thing they got going
right now, not named Chris Boswell. It's a mess, And
I don't want to be alarmist, and I think too
often people just want to blame Tomlin for things. But
I gotta tell you, I'm gonna blame everything on the uniforms.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Those were awful. It was bad.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, the Steelers looked terriable last night, literally and figuratively.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
I can't believe we had to look like that in
those ball my ass unifs.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
And now we're gonna have to see those highlights for
a long time because that game really ended up being
about Jordan love oh Man twenty passes in.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
A row at one point, like he caught fire passing
of the torch.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
In terms of you know, the Green Bay legacy has
happened a few years ago, but that seemed like a
different one. You know, the master against the student, and
the student surpassed teacher because an incredible knight from Jordan
love Well.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
And you got to credit the Green Bay Packers defense.
That d line got to the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
In the game, they wore the offensive line down and
I'll say a Malu went out, so that obviously compromised
our ability to protect.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But our jumbo package got compromised. Their pass rush got home.
Ours didn't.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
They controlled the line of scrimmage and that was Ah.
I did not see that coming, honestly, Like Aaron Rodgers
was running for his life a lot. Last night, Steelers
lose thirty five five, and I don't know what happens now.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, what happens now is the best team in football
comes to Towns next.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, this is what I'm saying is they're facing a
gauntlet and it's not going to be easy. And the
Ravens are gonna get Lamar Jackson back or at least
lie about it right up to the game. Yeah, and
with Snoop Hotley, they're at least able to put together
an offense that resembles what they were doing with Lamar,
so they can still win U and you saw that

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this past Sunday against the Bears.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
All of the Bears kind of gave that one away.
I don't know what to think. I had a little bit.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I had a modicum of hope that this might be
a different season. I don't know if this team makes
the playoffs. They're over under on wins was eight and
a half this year. They started off with four winds.
I don't think they're getting there. I don't think they're
getting to nine. I think, honestly, I think this is
the year that Tomlin goes under five hundred.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Because how what was the defense going to get better?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
They're only losing people slay not tackling people.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I mean, he's had a rough season.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
You know, not guarding people is bad enough, but at
least tackle the guy on his way in the end
zone instead of giving him an old a.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
But what a turn this season has taken.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Because I'm old enough to remember two weeks ago when
we were talking about the Steelers being the number one
seed in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, well I look at it.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Wow, It's kind of like the Duck Hodges season and
Dublin was our super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
This year.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know, like man, when we went to Phoenix with
Duck that was our super Bowl that year. This year
it was the trip to Ireland in September, and we're
wasting Aaron Rodgers, who's really not at fault for any
of this. No, it's not that we don't have a quarterback.
It's that, first of all, Arthur Smith. I hate his
play calling. I thought the way they came out in

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the second half was terrible, even though they got screwed
on the guy was in the neutral zone.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
And they didn't call it there.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Steelers got a couple of calls last year too, but
coming out after you were running the ball and establishing
run in the first half and just throwing it three times.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I get that one of those things.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Was Aaron Rodgers reacting to a very obvious off sides.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
But I mean, were they won for ten on third down?
I mean they were abysmal. I mean just the eye test,
it didn't look good.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Defense held up at first too, because well with the
help of a couple drops, but still, you know, it
was a while before green Bay converted.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
A third down. Yeah, yeah, they were getting off the field.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then the second half happened, and that's when the
whole you know, I know, the Manning brothers during the
Manning cast that one night were like, I never did
a halftime adjustment. You just have time to pee and
blah blah blah. Coaches ad just continually through the game.
And if Deshaun Elliott is a lynchpin for your defense
that is the most expensive in the NFL, well then
you did it wrong. And I think that what coach

(06:54):
Tomlin's problem is going to be in facing these critics
this week has more to do with talent evaluation than
actual coaching.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I think we miss Minka big time because there's been
a lot of splash in the middle of the field,
a lot of mistackles, Like I really haven't seen Thornhill
make much of an impact. Chuck Clark is a liability,
he's a slay is cooked some reason. Pepers is not
on the field. You know what what does that tell you? Well,

(07:23):
it tells me he made a few mistakes and they
went away from him for whatever reason, and they just
haven't brought him back. I'm not sure exactly why he's
not out there.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
At least I don't think they don't play players who
give them a better chance to win, you know, like
most of the time it's it's because they're not good
enough and if they're avant on what you're seeing between
Chuck Clark Thornhill running around out there.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Okay, but square these two things for me. You just
said they have a problem with player assessment.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well that is true. So then you're also saying.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Oh, well, the players that aren't out there aren't good
enough to be out there.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Says who the guys that don't assess play? He was great, Like,
I mean, fair point.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'll talking more about like the actual acquisition and thinking
the guy can do it.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Then he gets here and you're like, well, obviously we
were wrong about that.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, I would say the one silver lining out of
last night is Roman Wilson, Like how many times have
we been told mo, he just can't get on the
moving train.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
He stinks he's not good enough to crack the lineup?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Touchdown, big catch last night, Like he's he made an impact.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Why isn't he being used more?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Big first down last night? On top of that touchdown
that was a little bit of a coming up party
for him. Who knows, you know, the NFL is crazy
and the Steelers could go out and beat the Colts
this week culture due to lose.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's what I was saying, is that.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
All you got victory?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Why not? Hey? Why not us? They an egg.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I I went down to the game to meet a
friend of mine came in from out of town who
I haven't seen in a while, and so I'm like,
all right, I'm reluctantly gonna go meet you for a
couple of years and watch the four o'clock cames, just
because I thought it was going to be a zoo
down there, and.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
It was, but in a fun way.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
It was like it's just being around that atmosphere on
a beautiful fall day, and it was a lot of fun.
And they were like, is there always as many fans
from the other team here? And I'm like, no, no, no.
And I'll go out and say, you know, I was
throwing out crazy figures last week, saying I thought it

(09:27):
was going to be like, you know, forty five fifty
five Packers Steelers. It was probably twenty five percent Packers
fans or less, but they got to cheer the whole game.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I don't know if you saw our body.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Matt Light posted he had Packers fans behind him, go
pack Go, cheering the entire game, the entire second half,
and then the Steelers had to actually go to the
silent count at home.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I tried to warn the Packers fans about that at
the tailgate. Probably the most fans from another team that
I've seen. I think in the times that I've been
hosting the tailgate, the three biggest fan bases that I've
seen in there were the forty nine Ers, the Cowboys, Yeah,
and the Packers. And I was saying to them, hey,

(10:09):
I know, you guys got go pack go Tourett's try
to just get it out of your system early in
the game because if you're winning and it's the fourth
quarter and you're doing that, you know, Steeler fans aren't
going to be.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
That nice to you, especial if you're up in the
five hundreds. Yeah, but you know when they perform, well,
you can't you can't keep that stuff down.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Nope.

Speaker 7 (10:32):
You know.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
I had a brunch and there were Packers fans that
walked in. But I was like twenty minutes outside.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Of the city and there's Packers fans there.

Speaker 8 (10:40):
Yeah, and they look like, you know, exuberant. They had
like the overalls on.

Speaker 9 (10:49):
Time.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
So we actually asked them, you know, like how long
are you saying in Pittsburgh. We sent them beers, we
sent them to Irish cities, and like we were just
kind of like, yeah, let's uh.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
Poison them. But they said they're actually like dang long
enough to go to like the Penguin game tonight.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh that's cool.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
But you know, they were like they're a hard fan basically,
even when they beat us for the Super Bowl, it
was kind of like, ah, you can't.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I can't stay mad at you. No, it's it's not
their fault. It's it's our fault.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
It's it's the team's fault for not playing well enough
to keep that enthusiasm to a minimum.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I saw a Steeler fan, uh try to start a
fight with a Packers fan over a chair at a bar,
and the Packers fan was like, oh, no, it's okay,
you can have it, you know, and I was like,
the boy that really was I mean, that could not
have lived up to its billing.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
More.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Ye like to see the fans like you.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Don't see the coat on it, and they guys, oh, Mike,
well gosh, I'm really sorry about that, you know, and
He's like, well, you can't hold chairs anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, absolutely, you can't.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I'm like, you wanted to fight him and he wouldn't
even fight you know.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Chee stick.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know if you said there was a perogi
head at the game last night, I don't know if
that that's going to take off.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
They were trying to keep out.

Speaker 10 (12:10):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I retweeted your tweet that girl was awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, she made that. It was like cardboard what the
closer I got? I was like, how did you do that?
That was great? She's putting in a lot of craft work.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, craft put in a lot of craft work last
night as he diced up the Steelers for a couple
of touchdowns and the North is garbage football. The Bengals
lost to the Jets late yesterday. Man, Justin Fields, how
does your heart not break for Justin Fields?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm happy for him yesterday. That was incredible.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
He curled up in the closet crying this week and
being vulnerant, vulnerable enough to say all that that. That
was like pretty interesting and I wonder if people are
going to be using that against him in the future.
Those are one of those things where I'm like, oh, sure,
like the Steelers wouldn't be all that.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I'm likena be crying in a closet that there'd be signed.
I mean could have admitted where That's what I'm saying.
I was crying clauset justin. I was crying at my house.
We're the very manly room, a lot.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Of horseheads and deer heads and elk kids on the wall.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
It was like Teddy Roosevelt's study.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
That's where I was a manly room.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Rubbing myself with beef callows ring and cried.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, ahead, a man cry.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
But he got the win there, and uh, the Ravens
win over the Browns or I'm sorry over the Bears
and the Browns.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Oh my lord, the Browns. Browns.

Speaker 10 (13:44):
Di it.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Miles Garrett smacking his helmet off of the bench.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
You know what, buddy, you don't even get to be mad.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
No, you don't get you just don't even get to
be mad.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Signed up for you wrote what you wanted in your letter,
and then you signed for more money.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Haha, is all I got to say to him.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
And I don't know what he's going to do, but
it seems to me that he's going to try to
figure out a way to get out of there.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
How do you do that? How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Their ownership is terrible, their star player that they back
do it for Miles he is a cancer. And they
can't figure out the quarterback position because Dylan Gabriel stinks.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
So that's the AFC North.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
The Ravens have a two and five record, and they
are the odds on favorite to win the AFC North.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
They're two and five and then the odds.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
On favorite because I think that, you know, the writing
is on the wall for Lamar to come back, and
when he comes back, he makes that team go and
everybody else looks terrible.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think everybody missed that story this weekend on the
Ravens too, and they categorize it as some sort of
gambling thing because of the week that happened.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
With miss categorizing his practice status, right.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, And I think what the real story behind that?
And you know a lot of people have said this.
I'm not like breaking any news, but I don't think
it's anything to do with gambling. I agree it's a
bad look, but it's clearly the way that that organization
has continually mishandled Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
They always do.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
They are on the wrong page with him on everything,
on injuries, on contract status. They just can't communicate with him.
And I get that he's a weird dude, but you
got to do better than that. And if you're John Harbaugh,
you cannot stand up there and go, oh, yeah, you
know what, he had a full participation practice today and
then a day later go oh well yeah, no, I

(15:32):
mean I met he was like he did a lot.
It's like, no, dude, words matter, and you know exactly
what you were saying. And they were trying to put
their full weight on him to get him to play
this weekend, and that just staying who Lamar Jackson is.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
He does not care.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's like, no, I'm I'm gonna play for me and
be healthy and I'm not sacrificing my body because well, yeah,
how many players have you seen on out there in
that similar situation? And then like Baker Mayfield, Coss Baker
Mayfield Cleveland, which.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Oh man, that was the best move he ever could
have made.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Sure did they got another win yesterday?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Michael being in just a little bit, we were kind
of talking as we were filling up our high octane
coffees out there about just what do you make of
this team?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now? You know, people indition them ting well on top.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Now, I don't blame them for being mad Bill and
taking all kinds of unsportsmanlike penalties because they had those
uniforms on it. And you know how it is when
you're a kid and you're wearing something at church you
don't want to wear.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Pants, and then you're like, you got to defend yourself,
but you're.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Right, yeah, I want to poke someone in the eye
to Okay, I get that, But the undisciplined nature from
the big name stars, and I think that was the
first peak at the DK that is problematic and part
of why I think the Steelers didn't want to do

(17:05):
an experiment with Pickens and DK in the same roster.
Though I think they screwed up royally on that one.
When all said and done, who cares because the locker
room's going to be a mess the way things are
going right now.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And winning cures all ills.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
You know, they want to extend him in Dallas as
our buddy Dave Danishek has been all too willing to
remind everyone. So I don't know, man, I think it's
going to be an ugly week in Pittsburgh. I think
Mike Tomlin is going to hear the fire Tomlin chance
louder than he ever has. And I'm having a hard
time disagreeing with the fact that his message is stale.

(17:38):
This is an Andy Reid situation. You know, a lot
of success in Philadelphia ultimately couldn't get it done. After
a lot of years, he had to go somewhere else
to win. It proved he was a great coach. They
brought someone else in and they won with Doug Peterson.
You know, we needed Doug Peterson, a guy who come
in and win with us, and then we fire him.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
In three years. It's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
And then we find our Sirianne. No, that's not gonna
and maybe it's Signetti if.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
We if we would have hired Peterson, we would have
him here for the next seventeen years.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh, we don't fire anybody because, uh, well, you know
since the moon landing, we've had three head coaches.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, well you know, guess what, now we're going to Mars,
so we changed things up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, I think that you're you're only going to see
a change at the head coach position when Art steps down.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
When Ard steps.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Down, it'll be like a mutual maybe tandem retirement or
a soft retirement for Tomlin where he'll go do media
for a year and then come back into coaching if
he wants to.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I mean, he can do whatever he wants. Yeah, I
think you're right about that. All right, Mike is going
to join us year. We got Tim Ben, Jerry d
Rob came with a power hour of Steelers talk on
the way for you. Gardell was going to try to
come in today. He got really sick this weekend. He's battle.
Last night he was there but he you know, he
was shaking off a fever last night. So unfortunately we

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Speaker 2 (19:07):
But to be sick and then go see that sick
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Skilled camp Well, Mike Pursuit is year after doing the
postgame show last night here on DVE, slept on a
couch and he's here for your six thirty Sports this morning,
and you were just talking with the Bill here in
the break about the tenor of the postgame show, calls
what does Steeler Nation think right now?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
And how are they feeling beyond it? You know, there's
always the reactionary fire Tomlin anytime they lose, and I
just text that to him. I don't call man. What
stage of grief are they in right now? Grieving?

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, actively, not excepting. It's just sad.

Speaker 9 (21:38):
And you know thirty five twenty five was sad last
night at Akrosser Stadium. Sports This Hour brought to you
by Bridge Valplights. It got so bad during what became
the collapse at Actresser. Quarterback Aaron Rodgers had to do
a discount double take to make sure he wasn't still
in Green Bay.

Speaker 14 (21:56):
Acker fans traveled really well. First time in a while.
I do use silent count for a home game. That's
a credit to those Packer fans.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh, he's he's helping that soft landing. When all said
and done, that he can go back to Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (22:12):
But uh, I mean that's heresy, right, I mean, that's
that's defeat. I mean they just take over your trap.

Speaker 9 (22:22):
Yeah, walking you a trap, Go Pack go. They hung
around long after the final.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
If you travel to Green Bay to watch the Steelers
and they rolled, you'd be there.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
To celebrated the on field interviews, They celebrated the postgame show.
They chanted they took the stadium over their money's worth,
and their team owned the Steelers. Uh, Bill, I think
you said thirty five twenty five. It wasn't that close.
Brandy said that, but yeah, one of you guys said that.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I agreed. Uh.

Speaker 9 (22:55):
The amazing part was the Steelers were leading going into
the fourth quarter. I know, but that game just once
it started spinning out of control, it continued to spin
out of control and there's a stension that permeates. Here's
Mike Tomlin. You know we all have to own it.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Certainly, you start with the schematics, man, because you know
that's the leadership component of it. And certainly we'll be
looking at everything that we're doing, man, because some of
these problems are somewhat repetitive and we're not getting better
fast enough.

Speaker 9 (23:26):
He also talked about personnel, although with a couple potentially
significant injuries.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Significant being Tomlin's word.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
Is it related to Isaac Saymalu and Deshaun Elliott. He's
got to torn pack. That offensive line is in trouble.
Your options are limited. This from Cam Cam Hayward to
a group of reporters. This is story one to me.
This is the barmera of how bad it's gotten.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Quote.

Speaker 9 (23:51):
There's not a lot of fight in us right now.
And who among us to watch that game unfold would
argue in the second half is it? You know there
was one guy fighting, a couple guys fighting at the
end of the game, Aaron Rodgers and maybe Roman Wilson.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Mm hmm. After ten days off and you got your
ass kicked.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
They just took it, gave started going bad and some
and they just took it.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
That lob up to Tucker Craft that played Elliott got
hurt on incredible That's that was the turning point. It
was just all over after that. If you get a
defensive stop there deep in their territory.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
That was third and five from the Green Bay fifteen.
He got hit as he Suckerman blitzed. Patrick Queen is
right in his face. He just threw it down the
middle of the field. It was end over end and
Deshaun Elliott, you got hurt on the play. That's really unfortunate,
but that's a one on one contested ball.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
He also got pushed. He did push back. Yeah, yeah,
I agree, you know, yeah, don't throw your hands up
in the early I didn't do anything. For God's sake.
Misplayed that and then they got down to score.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
Steelers after that, go down and at least kick a
field goal, although they had a penetration in the Green
Bay territory. Then drive got away from Okay, it happens
nineteen fourteen. Then he had another heave down the middle
of the field and somehow Christian Watson. This one at
least was less of a desperation play, but it was
a he threw it up there for grabs and Christian

(25:27):
Thornhill misplayed that grabbed it between want Thornhill and Brandon Echols.
They got out and get another touchdown. Then the Steelers
not only fail on offense, but punt the ball and
Nick Herbig gets a fifteen yard penal. League, don't tell
me you're defending your teammate. It's a tight game in
the fourth quarter. You can't take a fifteen yard penalty

(25:47):
and set them up at your forty five yard line
for a short field touchdown drive.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Just one thing after another.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
Offense, defense, special teams collapse and no pushback.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Nobody drawn a line in sand saying enough of this.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Bleep other than that, missus Lincoln. How was the play.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
Bad as I've seen it? You know, I'd have to
really think on it a while to think when it
was just bad before.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
TJ Watt cam.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
These are guys I expect to be trying to like,
fire this team up and take over the messaging.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
And I'm not sure if they.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Believe in this team enough to even be doing that.
That second half, terrible penalty after terrible penalty, just an
absolute mental and physical collapse. And also slay letting Williams
walk into the end zone. I'm not letting go of
that because if this is a historic defense, you don't

(26:52):
let someone walk into the end zone uncontested.

Speaker 9 (26:54):
Well, one of the problems with it, and I don't
know that just came up in the post game, but
they are their state of confidence in their players is
such that Slay comes out now when they think it's
a passing down, and Chuck Clark comes out when they
think it's a passing guy, and they put Thornhill in
and Holkom goes in when they think it's a running down,

(27:15):
and they take Peyton Wilson about and we're back to this. Well,
this guy can do this, but not that garbage. And
you know the funny thing about that is the offenses
don't always cooperate. When you ever guys they can stop
the pass, sometimes they run the ball, and then when
you have your guys and they can run the ball,
sometimes they pass. And that's all you have to get
guys that can do both.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, if we can see that from the five hundred section,
I'm thinking that the best coordinators in.

Speaker 9 (27:40):
The league you're gonna guess wrong eventually and get burned.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
And this is my issue with Tomlin. I think Tomlin
and Bill you said it in the break he's a
leader of men, but coordinating Italian talent evaluation not so good,
especially the talent talent evaluation aspect.

Speaker 9 (28:01):
And I think that's a you know, that speaks to
a lot of people. General manager of the Scouts.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, No, I'm not saying it's only Mike Tomlin. I'm
saying the organizationally, they've got a big issue.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's problem one to me right now.

Speaker 9 (28:17):
And I mean it's not like that's going to get
fixed before the Colts get here.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
They've assembled a bad team.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
And th best thing I got gold for him is
the quarterback Yeah, which.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I kind of lucked into because the Jets mangled it
so bad. But and that was the guy I was like,
don't sign him.

Speaker 9 (28:40):
They offered fields, but you know, not a lot, and
looked at some other guys they kind of.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
I mean, I love the way that Rogers has been playing,
but I don't think he's good enough to compensate for
the team around him.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
No, he's certainly not playing at his MVP level. Well,
I don't know that he gets the platform to do it.
I mean, they don't set him up for what he does.
I mean he was never a super mobile quarterback, not
like he wasn't a running quarterback, that has to say.
And this offense would need somebody who can take off
when everything goes bad, because it goes bad a lot.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (29:13):
Metcalf comes down with a ball in the end zone
he's supposed to catch because they're paying him one hundred
and sixty million instead of kicking off fifty yard wheel
go there or whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
No, I mean I didn't. They played by the defender there.

Speaker 9 (29:23):
The protection to me was not a real problem until
the late as the wheels started coming off everywhere else
hurt and you're getting in obvious passing situations and you know.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, Mike, what were they on third down? Because just
one for ten? Yeah, I mean it was good, abysmal.
How'd they make one?

Speaker 16 (29:41):
Well?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know, if there's anybody who can look at this
and make lemons lemonade out of these lemons, it's Tim Benz.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I mean, oh yeah, this is a guy who's positivity
give you the rosiest scenario here. Jerry d a little
bit later on this morning, and Rob came with a
sour hour of Steeler talking at the nine o'clock hour
and Abbey's and news coming up at the top.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
The future development of the former Civic Arena site sounds
to be in limbo, and a big surprise at the
box office kept the Boss out of the top spots
yet Warmer.

Speaker 17 (30:12):
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Speaker 2 (30:24):
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Speaker 1 (30:27):
Good ones, the good Steelers, not the ones you played
last night.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh right, those are the throwback Steelers.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
They sucked, They were not good.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
They were called the Pirates. It all makes sense, doesn't it. Yes,
only more years of that coming. Tim Benz brought to
you by Don's Appliances this morning.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Where Pittsburgh shops for appliances?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Is there an appliance that we can get from them
to make this team not completely frustrating weekend and week out?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Tim?

Speaker 16 (30:56):
Yeah, A blender to make as much alcoholic drinks.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
As you passed it. It's gonna say, a garbage disposabal.
We have nothing left, all right? Where do you start?
You're right?

Speaker 16 (31:11):
I am playing. I am playing to make lemonade out
of this, I'm just gonna add lots and lots of vodka.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
So yeah, well you need it to just endure that
absolute craft show. The second half really I think revealed
the identity of this team right now and craft show
I think, which yes, indeed, Well there wasn't one single
thing that bothered me if there were plenty. And how

(31:37):
does Mike Tomlin approach dealing with Indy coming in this
week after his team quit on him in the second half? Oh,
I think you've got the blender on your phone. I
start all over, Go ahead, we got you now.

Speaker 16 (31:53):
I was gonna say, it's not like Indy has a
good running back or a good tight end or a
hot quarterback or anything like that right now, right the
way Taylor was running, or the draft choice of Warren
and how that's working out, I don't know how it
fixes it. In fact, when I was sitting there in
the press conference with him last night, it struck me
that he was having one of those moments of realization

(32:16):
where it's no longer about trying to deny the media
narratives about the team, and it's more about trying to
figure out his own moment of realization that he doesn't
have the answers because there are no answers. The scheme
doesn't work, the players don't work. It's all bad on
that side of the ball. Think about how much worse
it would have been if the kicker for the Packers

(32:37):
could kick like Chris Boswell can. That game takes on
a totally different tone at that point.

Speaker 9 (32:43):
Tim I thought the same thing. I'm listening upstairs waiting
to go on the post game show, and I couldn't
believe how long it went, how engaging Tomlin was, even
though the question started getting a little repetitive and there
was an eerie calm in his voice. The way he
was delivering his answers, it was like, Wow, what you

(33:04):
guys saw? What the hell am I gonna do about it?

Speaker 16 (33:06):
Like, you know one thing, Mike, I think a lot
of us, you and I have talked about this. A
lot of folks who have covered Tomlin for most of it,
if not all, of his tenure, have picked up on it,
especially as the years have gone along. The longer he's
been here, the more defiant he is of any questions
when they're winning, and the more accepting he is of

(33:27):
them when they're losing. He doesn't want to make it
look like he's pushing back when things go bad, because
I think when they've gone bad in recent years, they
go bad dramatically, like five game losing streaks, or you know,
seven to two and one to nine, six and one
and out of the playoffs, or losing your last three
games in twenty nineteen to miss the playoffs. It's like

(33:50):
he knows the more he pushes back, even if he
feels like it, even if it's against his instinct, the
worse it is for him, as if it could get
worse right now, because the frustration level is so high.
And I don't think this is like you guys were
talking during the sportscast, sort of a knee jerk reaction.

(34:10):
I heard somebody mention where people are saying, fire Tom
on fire Tom. It's not knee jerk. This is just
to carry over what's been going on the last eight years.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yep, all right, So we wanted to get a number
two wide receiver before the trade deadline. Has that changed
given what looks like a pretty severe injury with the
Shawn Elliott and the secondary's complete collapse. The defensive line
looked adequate against the run last night and seemed to
keep Jacobs somewhat in check. But the secondary they were

(34:44):
giving up. Just just jump oflls. No, it usually gets
two rushing touchdowns, only go one. Yeah, that's right, steps,
that's pretty good.

Speaker 16 (34:53):
Yeah. I don't know if the agenda changes, And frankly,
I don't know who's really available out there in the
secondary to get particularly at safety. You know they're looking
before and the best they came up with was Peppers,
So I don't know what's out there, and I don't
think one should change the other. Like, if they can
get a good safety, get a good safety. But if

(35:13):
Rashid Shahik can still be had for a third or
fourth round pick, get that too, because you need it.
Because it's not like they can wave the white flag
and not try and not give up picks or trade
their own guys. Like they're not in that mode. They're
still in first place and the rest of the division
is so bad you have to keep trying. You have

(35:33):
to keep looking to add I think.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, I mean the offensive line might be in flux
with the same olo injury as well.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
If that's a torn peck, probably just turn for a
guard of safety and wide receiver, that's all you said.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Historically, Well, you know that there always is changing guys.
That always happens.

Speaker 16 (35:55):
I do think there's something to it, though in the
sense that you I don't think they're in the mode
right now of Hey, there's going to be seven quarterbacks available,
let's trade up from the middle of the pack to
at least get one in the first round. I think
that whole thing has taken on a new complexion now
based on how the college quarterbacks have gone. So maybe

(36:15):
this I know, losing their way up the draft board.
But yeah, I still think this division is going to
keep them afloat. I mean, look at how it performed
again yesterday, and I get it. The Ravens did win
without Lamar and they probably went to the right back

(36:36):
up quarterback for how they play. But I don't know.
I don't know if they can lose their way out
of being in first place in this division so quickly.
I guess they can. Like you said, the next couple
of games are very difficult. I'm just thinking about what
Jonathan Taylor is going to do to that defense when
they're concerned about trying to cover the tight end, and
what Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Is going to do.

Speaker 16 (36:57):
I feel like Taylor could have a huge day against them.
This is supposed to be the bounce back game Prime Time,
the whole Rogers thing, and it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (37:06):
Now, I just think they're a lesser team going up
against a better team, the best team in football so
far this year, best record, best point differential. It sounds
weird saying that about the Colts, who you know some
I didn't even think they're gonna make the playoffs. I
didn't think they're gonna win that division. And now everything
is clicking on all cylinders. And that's a coach that's
beating Tomlin twice now as a head coach and once

(37:27):
is an offensive coordinator, and Stiching one he's back with
the Eagles, So this is this is a bad matchup
on a lot of fronts. And then you get the
Chargers after that at five and three, and then Flacco
comes back in. You know you can't beat him. Everybody
knows that you can't beat kill Black though, So yeah,
they might be in significant trouble.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
You kind of tipped right into my question, Tim because
I know that this only counts as one loss, but
it felt bigger than that. Given the time they had
off and the Rogers angle and you're playing in prime
time to come out and lay an egg in that
that scenario just foretells of disaster down the stretch for
the gauntlet you just described.

Speaker 16 (38:08):
Speaking of that, it's not like we can let the
offense entirely off the hook. I thought last week maybe
I was looking for angles to talk about what the
offense didn't do as well, just because I wanted to
be fair and balanced, like I didn't just want to
go after the defense one hundred percent entirely. I think
I wrote somewhere last week it was ninety percent about
the defense. This is a little bit more of a

(38:28):
split because of how I think the offense performed in
the first half. I used the phrase taking on a
different complexion. That game takes on a much different complexion.
If the offense finishes those drives in the first half,
when the defense was at least holding up and the
kicker was missing kicks for Green Bay. If the Steelers

(38:50):
finished those drives instead of relying on Boz to hit
fifty yarders all the time, then you got a different
tone going into halftime. And Brett Michaels is up there
singing nothing but a good time, and instead you're you're
you're looking for something to believe in.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
So you know, I forgot did have? Oh yeah, we
were up, We were up.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Well look you know throw you know, at least in
the offenses favor. They were able to get the ball
to Spencer Anderson. And I've been saying, if you want
to if you want to win, on.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
The first drive, they pulled out all their tricks on
the first drive.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
If that was a trick so much, it was just like,
what are we doing here? All right?

Speaker 16 (39:34):
Now?

Speaker 9 (39:34):
I just wanted them to know they can do that. Yeah,
so they could run more easily.

Speaker 16 (39:40):
And they love that look. And now they might not
be able to use it as much because Anderson has
to play for Siamalo for as long as he's out.
So they love that extra lineman. Now, who's going to
be the extra lineman?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
We could trade for one, Tim Benz brought to you.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
We have another Anderson, don't we?

Speaker 17 (39:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, well you know, uh, Calvin, we have Calvin, We've
Swisser and uh I think we have Elroy, I'm not sure.

Speaker 16 (40:07):
Yeah, yeah Anderson.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, well let's just shoot up fishman. I think I
think we all agree. That'll that'll fix thought he was
playing safety lesson benzis brought to you by fishman Don's
Appliances this morning, Thanks.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Tim Well get big place.

Speaker 18 (40:25):
You got a guy.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
All right, man, we'll see it.

Speaker 11 (40:27):
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Speaker 10 (40:38):
Here's Tom Opperman.

Speaker 19 (40:40):
The Steelers fell to four and three on the season
with a thirty five to twenty five defeet at the
hands of the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night Football.
The Steelers held the lead at halftime sixteen to seven,
but a twenty eight point second half explosion by the
Packers offense helped rally the Packers back to get the victory.
Scarheading the strong offensive performance was quarterback Jordan Love and
tight end Tucker Craft. Love, who at one point game

(41:00):
strung together twenty straight pass completions, finished twenty nine of
thirty seven for three hundred and sixty yards and three
passing touchdowns. Craft was certainly his favorite target on the night.
He was targeted nine times by Love, converting seven into
catches for one hundred and forty three yards and getting
into the end zone twice. The Steelers struggled throughout the
game to find an answer to Craft in the Green
Bay passing attack, and their defense has now gone three

(41:22):
straight games without forcing a turnover. On top of that,
Sunday night was the fourth instance of the season that
the team surrendered thirty plus points in a game. Aaron
Rodgers turned into decent performance in his first meeting against
his former team, going for two hundred and nineteen yards
and two touchdowns, but it ultimately proved to be not
enough to pull out the victory. Things won't get any
easier for the Steelers next week, as the Indianapolis Colts

(41:42):
bring their league best seven to one record into town.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I'm Tom Opfermann with the Steelers Report at FNB.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
We rewrote the rules of banking and made getting everything
you need a whole lot easier experience.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Though one of a kind is w dve.

Speaker 20 (41:57):
Pittsburgh gets a snap, we'll give and Jacobs tried to
bounce it outside, and Jacobs is going to get to
the edge, and Jacob's on the first play of the
fourth quorders run in for a Green Bay Packers touchdown.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, Steelers weren't very good last night, and the Packers
took advantage of that in the second half. I mean
they were down going into the fourth quarter and then
piled on for long. Steelers lose thirty five to twenty five,
and it was not that close. I'm not exactly sure

(42:38):
how this gets better anytime soon, but I will say
that when you looked at those ticket prices on Friday,
you just knew there was gonna be a lot of
Packers fans coming in. I think the Steeler fans gave
up on this team before the game.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
My parents were there last night and my mom was
sending me video ahead of it.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
She went a.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Lot of green, and there was a lot of green
at stay je for the tailgate, and I just chalk
that up to, well, this is the only place really
for them to come, you know, this is the main
meeting place like Sta Jem.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, so you thought they were concentrated.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
There's going to be the most concentrated amount of a
Green Bay Packers fans because you're not going to see
them taking over a tailgate in the parking lot. But that,
I mean, you knew they were coming in for this game.
I mean, this game is history one way or the other.
I mean it's the first time Aaron has played Green Bay.

(43:38):
If he beats them, he's now beat all thirty two
teams in the NFL. A lot at stake for this,
for both of these teams.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
But the idea, you know, we keep saying like, oh,
if they just finished drives instead of relying on Boss.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Those aren't drives.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
They're like two first downs and then they kick a
sixty yard field goal.

Speaker 21 (43:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, they just kept riding.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Deep into territory.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Nope, Arthur just missplay calling in the second half I
thought was brutal coming out of the locker room. They
had a chance right there to really make a statement
and put them behind the sticks.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
The secondary was laughably.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Bad, bad at tackling, and some key injuries last night
that are going to make things really tricky going forward,
notably say Malu and Deshaun Elliott.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
That looked like the end of his season last night.
That looked really bad.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, I mean he was screaming in pain.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Usually that doesn't mean oh, he'll be back on Sunday,
unless you play for the Ravens, and then they'll just
they'll just pretend that you're okay.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
No, Bill and I watched the Deshaun Elliott thing like
seven times in the break.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah, the Tucker craft, Yeah yeah, it looks best.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
So awkward. He lands right on his knee with his
whole body weight.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
The thing that pisses me off most about that play, well,
the injury probably was what pisses me off most about it.
But all right, fine, he pushes o. Deshaun Elliott puts
his hands up in the airs. I have to say, like, oh,
I didn't interfere with him, which I mean, interfere with
him if you're you know.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Please please interfere with him. Yeah, yet you got the penalty. Yes,
you got pushed off. They should have called that.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
They didn't, and I can see them not calling that
quite frankly. I mean, there, that's kind of battling for
the ball there.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, weird, kooky kind of play.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
But right after that, Thornhill has an opportunity to tackle
him before midfield. Hey tries to tackle him high before midfield,
and Tucker does not go down until the twenty six
yard line.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Oh yeah, you got.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
I mean the pad level on that attempted tackle was abysmal.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
They're tackling all night was abysmal.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Oh yeah, slay And I'm not exactly sure what what
you do here. Mike Tomlin is in a lot of
trouble and he's gonna have a really brutal week, as
you said, Bill, ten days from getting their ass kicked
in Cincinnati to come back to face the Packers in primetime.
And that's the effort that they gave. They rolled over

(46:09):
in the second half.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
They gave up.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
They quit on Mike Tomlin. And we've seen this too
many times. Remember last year when the defense quit down
the stretch yep, the playoff game against Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Oh my god, show up.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Doesn't it kind of seem like even their star players
don't believe in the schematics. Coach was asked about that
after the game less than he said, certainly, you got
to start with the schematics as being an issue.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Well, this has been one of my this has been
one of my main arguments with Mike over the last
couple of seasons, is that he starts every season fresh
and I keep saying, the meter is running, You're changing
the players and it looks the same. Yeah, this is
not a brand new season, a clean slate that we're
assessing them as if we haven't seen this exact same

(46:55):
thing down the stretch last year and into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Matt Canada was fired the week of November twentieth, right
after that Browns game.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
In twenty twenty three, if.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
They can duke Marriott the third beat us remember that quarterback, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Nobody had ever heard of and is not in the league.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Possibly Dorrian Thompson Robinson Town Center.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
If the Steelers have similar defensive efforts in the next
two weeks and they don't fire Tell Austin out of
at least just optics, then there's a big problem. I know,
it's not really his defense. He keeps insisting he's the
one calling it and the schematics are the issue. Well,

(47:38):
you got to point the finger at somebody, and the
coaches have to take the brunt of this one player evaluation.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Can't do anything about that now.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
But they basically have been given a pile of garbage
on the show Chopped and said, you know, make beef
Stroganof out of this.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
It's like, wow, there's no beef, there's no strogan Off.
Well not with the way they're playing.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, the secondary looked like they were struggling off all night.
I don't know what any of that means other than
I'm very disappointed, and yet you do.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
It makes perfect say, it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
The two passes that will haunt them are that one
to Craft and who cut the second one the.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Watson that over Thornhill on Eccles just.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
A jump ball that he throws up there. Thornhill completely
misjudges it.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Although you know, I mean it's it's hard for me,
just as a lover of ball not to just appreciate
what Jordan Love did last night, because that dude was cooking.
He had twenty completions in a row at one point. Yeah,
he went off.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
And that throw I've seen Ben make that throw where
it looks like an interception, it looks like it shouldn't work,
and our guy comes down with it. That's what happens
when you have a franchise guy and he's out there.
I mean, he had ten, ten different targets last night.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
Everybody got some love, even the play that Deshaun Elliott
got hurt like Queen had him, like Queen had love, Like.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Oh yeah, that should be hit him as he threw it.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, he was an inch away from batting that ball down.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
But that's like when we talk about what we like
about Aaron Rodgers' mobility, that's definitely something Jordan Love has
learned from him. But it works for the Packers because
those receivers.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, and you know, DK didn't make a catch when
he needed to last night, there were a couple of drops.
I thought you're going to see a much different looking
Steelers offense in the first half. I thought that they
were getting that running game going. And I thought they
were going to come out in the second half and
keep doing that control the time of possession like they
did in the first half. That was working for them,

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and then the defense just got gassed. I mean they
got gassed and you could see them breaking down series
after series, and by the fourth quarter it was just
they had nothing left over. They had no fight. And
when Cam Hayward, team captain Cam Hayward says after the game,
we don't have a lot of fight in us, there's

(50:11):
some big problems in now locker room.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
How how after ten days off at home in prime time?

Speaker 1 (50:19):
One guy tweet me He's like, I have the biggest
problem with Cam Hayward because he asked for more money,
and we gave it to him, and he he's not
doing anything.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
And I was like, well, to be fair, we didn't
really give it to him.

Speaker 8 (50:27):
Yeah, we incentivized him to do his job.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
You just got a pretended like we gave it to him.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Yeah, but we gave a lot of people a lot
of money, and it's it doesn't look like it should
look for the highest paid defense in the league.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Steelers lose thirty five to twenty five last night. Jerry
Doulack will join us later Rob King with a sour
hour Steeler talk, trying to make sense and looking ahead
at this week. It doesn't get any easier for them
as the red hot Indianapolis Colts come to town.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Best best team in the league right now, or at
least they've you know, they've got the best record. They
look incredible, they be and teams by multiple touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Will Indie fans make the trek?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Probably?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Will McAfee show up wearing half Colts house Steelers jersey?

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Oh that's a good question, don't I saw those?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I saw Aaron Rodgers halfs yesterday.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, I saw two of them.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Really, Yeah, that's surprising.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
Damnishek told us that, you know, he was so hated
and said so many nasty things about green Bay, which
I was trying to look up. Not that I was
like trying to call him out or anything like that,
but I was trying to look up exact quotes of
what he was playing.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
He claims he said some pretty deep I know, And.

Speaker 8 (51:34):
So I was trying to find some receipts.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Did you no, Okay, well maybe we'll have to bring
that up.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
But oh no, they love him.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
I mean last night you heard the ovation when he
ran out of the tunnel and there was a ton
of Packers fans they all cheered. I mean there was
there was so many Rogers jerseys, Green Bay Rogers jerseys
at the tailgate, and.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Just how could they not be fans. I get that
it ended bad, but a lot of relationships too.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Yeah, it's him and Farv and Star is there, you know,
the holy trinity for the Packers fans.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I think that the relationship between the Pittsburgh Steelers and
Mike Tomlin is headed down that path right now.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Coach is going to have a brutal week and I
think he knows it, and.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I'm not sure if anybody is going to be happy
and Steeler Nation until that guy is gone, and I
don't know that he could turn it around and make
Chicken Salid out of what's happening.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Although we've seen them here before, or we all count
them out and we all say like, well, they're cooked.
They're not possibly going to throw together any kind of
semblance of a good team. And then they rip off
a couple wins they shouldn't and they're still somewhat in
the mix, and then you're like, oh, maybe, and then
they could beat badly again. You're like, wow, no, I'm

(52:57):
done this time for real.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
If they lost to the Packers played well, if it
was like that Packers Steelers game from what was a
two thousand and nine where it was like back and
full shootout, Yeah yeah, and you just got bested, it
would feel a lot different. This team is an absolute
mess right now in all three phases. Everybody taking bad penalties.

(53:19):
Nick Herbig bad penalty, TJ bad penalty, DKA penalty, Ky,
what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Cam fall start whenever they were in uh fr goal
formation made it a little easier for him, yep.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
And then you know, the Packers got away with a
lot last night that that that wasn't called on Deshaun
Elliott the neutral zone infraction that wasn't called I throwed
a DK that was I mean, the defender made a
great play at the right time, but that balanced out
should have been a penalty that balanced out the.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Fall start by Broderick Jones.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I thought, so I was okay with it because bro
I mean, we ended up scoring a touchdown on that drive.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
But yeah, you know, you bitch about the calls, then
you you sound like a loser, which we are.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
You very rarely win and bitch about the referees. That
being said, it's gonna be fun to talk to Jean's
territory tomorrow here on the program.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Yeah, some weird calls, some weird calls and and I
I mean I was watching that Rum and Wilson catch,
thinking in the NFL that I grew up watching, that's
not a catch.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
You know, three steps, you don't hold onto the ball
ground or whatever.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yeah, I mean he didn't go to the ground, but
still like that didn't look like the cat. I mean, hey,
I'm not going to take a touchdown off the board
for us, but.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Right the other one that we benefited from that This
gets called all the time in the NFL, but pass
interference on an underthrown ball. I kind of feel like
plinding with the receiver and the you know, if the
ball is underthrown, he has to stop. You can't stop
on a dime if you're the defender there, if it's UNDERTHROWNE.

(55:01):
I'm not sure why that's pass interference, but it has
been in the NFL for a while.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
It is the letter of the law there that you
just can't peed the receiver's path to the ball.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yes, but if you're running with them and the ball
is underthrown, I don't know. You know, good quarterbacks can
make that play all the time, and that was a
big pi for the Steelers there, and.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
They deerately needed it on third Damn, we'll try to
make heads.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Wait, was that the only third down they converted? Because
if that was on third down, they were only one
for ten.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, I don't know. Does it count as a conversion
when it's a penalty, that's a good question.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
I don't think it does. I think it's like getting walked.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Anyways, all right, we've got more to deal with here,
but the dissolution of our superstars and the once vaunted
Pittsburgh Steeler defense, right, now it's just a little much
to deal with at seven seventeen in the morning, seven eighteen,
just turn seven eighteen. Good lord, Yeah, it'll be fine, Abby.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Talk about.

Speaker 18 (56:07):
Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 8 (56:08):
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Speaker 6 (56:17):
We'll jump ahead to a bit of a surprise at
the box office. There is a big screen adaptation of
a popular anime movie called Chainsaw Man, and it was
the number one movie at the box office. Comes out
of Nowhere, which is wild Here exactly, and then you

(56:38):
had black Phone two at number two, which means.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
That there was a black Phone one.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
Well, good point, But I was going to say the
Springsteen movie Yeah, ended up being number three, I believe so.
I think a lot of folks thought that Delivered Me
from Nowhere was going to do pretty well, but that
ended up earning about twelve million dollars.

Speaker 8 (57:03):
Coming in again at number three.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
Regretting You was the rom com that Sean also reviewed
for US. Oh you know what, I take that back,
that got number three. Springsteen came in at number or
at nine million. So that came in at number four.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Oh wow, So.

Speaker 8 (57:20):
That didn't I didn't get a lot of love this weekend.
And as much as we are still.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Probably on the fence because we haven't had an opportunity
to see the movie yet, it sounds like director Scott
Cooper suggests that Bruce Springsteen's Life has enough material for
a sequel or even a trilogy to the film.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
So your idea, Randy.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
That the multiverse, Yeah, this is a multiverse of Springsteen.

Speaker 8 (57:43):
It's got legs.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
So maybe like Batman versus Superman, we can have Dylan
versus Springsteen. Challa May and Jeremy Ellen White as you've
never seen them before.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Who can get sadder?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Everybody I talked to actually, well, I did a show
with Joe Grisheki on Saturday and we were talking about
the movie and he told me he was like, I
was in that room with him and I heard those songs.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
He played Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
For me and we're just like really, He's like, yeah,
not the whole record, but he's like, hey, I wrote
some songs. He's like, I was in that house. I
was hanging with me. He's like, that's when we were
hanging a lot back and then and he said that
like Bruce played, he goes and he thought they were demos.
And that's, of course the famous story about it is
that the record company's.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Like, Okay, those are demos and you're going to redo them, right,
And then he's like, no, I think we're good.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
But he said that basically, Bruce told him on Friday
that this is the movie he wanted to make, Like
this Friday. Yeah, this past Friday, he was Hemmit springsy
talking all the time, like one Friday, No Friday Friday.

(58:57):
Like He's like, I was talking to him yesterday. He
told us this on Saturday. He's like, I was talking
to him yesterday and he told me this is the
movie I wanted to make.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
And it's a movie about the most depressing part of
his life, the most depressed era of his life. And
I I'm not sure that outside of diehard Springsteen fans
of people want to rush to go see that.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Well, no, it sounds like they want to see Black
Phone two a little bit little bit more.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
Yeah, it's just not an era that people feel comfortable celebrating,
because maybe people are also depressed themselves right now.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
It's like, I don't want to get that sat. I'm
going to see Chainsaw Man instead.

Speaker 22 (59:34):
I'm gonna go to the Steelers game. Oh damn, I
just see it. Just did the Wisconsin album last night.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
I don't know if Mike went and saw that or not.
I have to ask him.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Hughes, Yeah, I'll have to ask him. I'm going to
see it. There was.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
At the afi Fest premiere of the movie, like Mark
Maron said that Jeremy Allen White's sing performance was so
good that you know it even fulled Bruce Springsteen and
I saw a.

Speaker 23 (01:00:04):
Little is that me?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Well yeah, from me? Then who's you? Wait?

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
But I saw a lot of tiktoks this weekend where
they had all of these like Lucy Dakas was in it,
the guy. I don't know that everybody's name in the National,
but whoever the lead singer of the National.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Is Matt Berenger, maybe, I think.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
But they were all listening in studio and I couldn't
tell who it was because they were reacting to it
being Jeremy Allen White.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Oh wow, Well, I know that the band that he
played with that at the Stone Pony scene is Creda
Van Fleet.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
Oh no kidding?

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah? Really? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
Interesting?

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
You know, I'm sure that they put so much thought
into this, but why not release it over Thanksgiving? Because
isn't that the big movie weekend of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Like close?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Yeah, they don't trust it to open big.

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
Yeah, somebody must be afraid that it's not as.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Good and again it was a chainsaw man? Is it
going to take us down?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I'll tell you what I want to say. I want
to see the Terry Bradshaw movie. I mean, I want
him to get the full biopic treatment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Did you guys, well, you know he has a one
man show, or at least he did he did. Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Did you hear Terry on the Pig Show yesterday talking
about trying to call Andy Reid and.

Speaker 21 (01:01:26):
That I would worry about more so in Washington Is
The other day I text Andy Reid and I got
a text back and I thought it was Sandy Reid,
but it's some guys selling pigs. But I sounded good.
I shouldn't have told you all that, so y'all would
have thought I actually called Andy Reid. But I didn't really.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Want a breakdown.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I wouldn't be so sure that that wasn't Andy Reid
because I feel like Andy Reid might try to sell
you some pigs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Yeah, sure he's got He's got a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
The look on Strayhan's face when the camera pans over him, like,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
We have to take his keys, guys, we have to
take his car keys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
You can't let him driving home from today. Steelers lose
last night to the Packers Sunday Night football. That's two
losses in a row. And they up and quit on
coach Tomlin. They absolutely gave up in that fourth quarter
in the second half. Really a couple of injuries and
then they just you could see it. They just deflated

(01:02:28):
at home in front of a crowd that was way
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Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Bottom plays of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Well, that's kind of what it is. The bottoms top
top five Tucker Craft plays. I can think of two
big ones uh and Uh Jerry du lac Rob King
joining us.

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Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
It's gotta be a nice day mostly Sunday high of
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Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
This is a brook. I had this tweet last night, Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
The first time that the Steelers lost the game by
ten or more points that it led entering the fourth
quarter since nineteen ninety six against at the Oilers, and
it's the first time the Steelers lost a home game
by ten or more points that led entering the fourth
quarter since nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 9 (01:04:21):
Historic, I'll go you won better. First time the Packers
have won in Pittsburgh since their quarterback's name was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Bart Starr.

Speaker 9 (01:04:33):
Wow, nineteen seventy star against Bradshaw.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Jeez, had Bradshaw let that one get away? I don't
think there were a whole bunch of cheese sets chit
and go pack go? No? No, I mean were there
highways at heads at that point?

Speaker 9 (01:04:50):
Yeah, it's bad sports that are brought to by bridge plants.
A couple things before I get to my stuff this hour.
Roman Wilson was touchdown because he's in the end zone
and they threw them the ball and he caught it
and his feet are on the ground and he's holding
it up. It's the same as the guy running over
the goal and you can't chase some eight yards into
the end zone and swap the ball out of his

(01:05:11):
hand play.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
He didn't have to go to the ground. Because he
didn't go to the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
They had a two point conversion that was no good
for the exact same because he didn't catch the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
He had two feet down but it didn't. But the
possession was he was bobbling it. Yeah, he's doing.

Speaker 9 (01:05:28):
Possession was not I get the rule, and not made
by the way. Yeah, right, exactly, that's what he's here for,
Jonas Smith. Catch the ball, give us, give us a
chance for an cover the guy, tackle the guy, catch
the ball. We get too deep in his schematics here.
I know they're going to because they got to look
under every stone and all that. But you know they're not.

(01:05:49):
They are playing poorly. They were playing bad football. Their
better players are being outplayed by the other teams better players.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I think this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Needs the old Looney Tunes TNT because I just don't
see this getting better.

Speaker 9 (01:06:06):
On a brighter note, if you want to go see
the Bruce Springstein movie at his most depressing time of
his life, now, it's probably a good time. I haven't
seen it yet, but he's on the cover of Time
again and there's a phenomenal article Time magazine explains.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 9 (01:06:25):
It's one of the best works on Springsteen I've ever read.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Who wrote it, I don't know. Yeah, nobody reads bylights.
One might be Ai. It's my point. No, it's definitely
not Ai.

Speaker 9 (01:06:36):
It's brilliant writing and perspective and context.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
It's really good. I'll get to the movie eventually. No,
I know, look, it was a big weekend, maybe after
the Colts put up five hundred and thirty yards oh Man.

Speaker 9 (01:06:51):
Sports Is are brought to you by Bridgeville, plying the
Steels were actually writing I had halftime last night, but
things started to get away from them early in the
third quarter and they never did have a way to
get him back on track.

Speaker 14 (01:07:05):
Well, it felt good at sixteen seven. You know, we
had a nice drive there in the first half, and
then you know, just didn't decide the game. But the
one play where I don't know if it seemed like
the guy was off sides on third and eight and
he didn't come up with the catch, they didn't make
a penalty call, and then we punt it and they

(01:07:26):
hit a kind of wild played eighty five to kind
of back in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
That was like a big momentum turn in the game.

Speaker 9 (01:07:34):
Yeah, it was not just because it flipped the field.
We're talking about the Jordan love desperation. He even hope
to the tight end Craft fifty nine yards and they're
on the way to getting the touchdown and getting back
in the game. But the Steelers lost to Sean Elliott
on that play. And I don't this is going to

(01:07:55):
sound like I'm trying to make an excuse for them,
and I'm not, because they were awful, but the Elliott injury,
given the status of who he is and the importance
that he brings to the defense, and just the whole
horrific nature of it, everybody taking a knee and standing around.
I was watching the Eagles Giants earlier yesterday because I

(01:08:15):
didn't wait all day for Sunday night. I actually watched football,
and then I watched more football.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
But that's just me.

Speaker 24 (01:08:21):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:08:21):
Tom Brady was doing the game and the Giants lost
Camp scatter Bow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah, and it was a horrific leg.

Speaker 9 (01:08:26):
Injury carted off just they wouldn't even show the replay
was so bad, and Tom Brady was talking about how
people never understand the impact that has on people emotionally
when when you lose that guy in horrific fashion.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
So, I mean it had a huge impact on his quarterback,
his bro friend. I mean he was almost crying as
they head budded before.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
He got carted off. Did you see that? Yes, buddy,
it's like I hurt your I'm sorry you hurt your leg.
Here's a concussion. Yeah, let's been out. The non penalty.

Speaker 9 (01:09:01):
Rogers reference was third and eight from the Steelers twenty nine,
and he said, we didn't catch it. I didn't get
a great look at the end of that play, Roman Wilson,
and there was a pass defense. I don't know if
he could have caught it, didn't catch it, should have
caught it, had a chance to catch, but play wasn't made.
But watching it, it's all Rogers taking a shot because

(01:09:21):
it's a free play.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
I thought that was the DK. Now it was to
Roman Wilson.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
It was to Roman Wilson, and he looked like he
put a half effort into that one.

Speaker 9 (01:09:31):
So rather than having third and eight become third and three,
he punt the ball back and then the the you know,
the desperation, he flips the field and then they score,
and then the Steelers end up driving again, installing themselves
out settle for a field goal. Packers get their next
flip field flipping play to Christian Watson and yeah, hey,

(01:09:56):
that was a great boot leg and athletic row and
a leap and catch. There is no way the ball
can be in the air that long down the middle
of the field and have.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
A guy go up and get them, like you don't
have a defender. It just can't have that. And you
know that's not schematics. By the way, I think it
was Nixon on Wilson on that third down that they
thought was a free play. He came over and just
kind of knocked the ball down what you're allowed to do.
And Eckles didn't even make a play from behind on

(01:10:27):
that one.

Speaker 9 (01:10:27):
Well, yeah, after you're in the general vicinity, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Yeah, Like it's one thing to watch Thornhill completely misjudge it. Yeah,
and he's backpedaling woo like he's falling in a tub.
And I mean Eckles come up over the top of
them there, do something like, don't worry about the penalty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
The guy's gonna catch it. Like make a play, do
some try.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
I thought that the Minka Fitzpatrick trade was a good trade.
I think that they should have made that move and
I also think they miss him in the middle of
the field has just been wide open, tons of splash.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
You never saw make a give up a play like that. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:11:05):
Yeah, And a really curious thing to me is you've
got Chuck Clark and Thornhill basically alternating at free safety,
Clark on rundowns and Thornhill on passing downs. And Clark's
the guy they added in training camp. I don't know

(01:11:25):
how they got there. They were real excited about that
secondary when camp opened, and not so much right now.
Offense couldn't do anything to stem that avalanche of Packer
momentum either, at least not until it was way too
little and way too late.

Speaker 14 (01:11:44):
Yeah, we had too many penalties, too many native yards plays,
and then you know we just I wasn't accurate enough
on third down and we weren't to create enough space.
But we look at the film and you know, we'll
get better and we got a good team coming in
next week.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Yeah, Rogers I thought played well.

Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
A couple more plays that they make for him, and
maybe it's a different story, but they didn't and it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Was not abby. Will have your news at the top
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Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
Sounds like there were arrests in the Louver heist. But
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Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Jerry Doulac, rob King still to come. Top plays of
the game when we come back.

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Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
The Packers thirty five to twenty five Sunday Night Football
Akerscher Stadium. A lot of green in the stands, Olpack,
A lot of green in the stands, not so much
on the field.

Speaker 9 (01:12:52):
All those people have sold their tickets should feel a
shame today, Randy, I agree, not not as much. Actually,
it's economics. Do what you gotta do, and those tickets
were tickets are expensive and there was money to be made.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Hey, if Darius Lay can make a business decision, Steelers
season ticket holders can do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
As I was saying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Not a lot of green on the field as much
as there was in the stands last night. Field taking
a beating a lot of white once again, Steelers might
as well have been waving the white flag. Top five
plays of the game were most impactful. However you want
to look at this, the first half was a real
rock fight, and I thought the way that Rogers handled
that last drive to end the first half after settling

(01:13:37):
for boswell Field goals the entire time was exactly what
you wanted. Bled the clock down, got it all the
way down to thirty seven seconds before he throws short
to the right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
DK Metcalf for the touchdown.

Speaker 20 (01:13:53):
Rogers turns throws slam right touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers. It's DK
Metcalf from three yards out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Yeah, and Mike, like I said to me, they bled
the clock down to almost nothing there and made it
hard for them.

Speaker 9 (01:14:08):
Back, got four h six to almost Yeah. It was
looked great at that point. They were in control.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
And they were getting the ball back in the second half,
that's exactly what you want to do there. They get
the ball back and then on third down of the
first drive, an obvious neutral zone in fraction, Rogers thinks
it's a free play, alas it was expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Packer's showing pressure.

Speaker 20 (01:14:33):
They come early and Rogers throws it down field and
it's incomplete. Roman wilsonays it knocked away by Keyshawn Nixon.
Has to be flags on the field. I don't see
any flags. Well, Rogers thought he had a free play.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
He's he's he's.

Speaker 20 (01:14:47):
Gesturing with his hands wondering what's going on. They are
clearly offside. This is incredible that no call was made here.

Speaker 26 (01:14:56):
Devonte Wyatt is clearly across the line of scrimmage before
the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
And they don't call anything. Wow, how on earth did
they miss that one?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
It's a big one.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
They huddled up even afterwards, and they were talking about
it on the broadcast, like has there ever been a
non penalty called?

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
And then it resulted in a flag.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Subsequently, Mahomes has done it to the refs. He's talked
him into it, but Aaron Rodgers he's just not hot
enough for them anymore, so he couldn't talk him into it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:24):
They did make sure they called a holding penalty on
green Bay's three yard putt return, just to sort of
try to even it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Out a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Well, you know, I didn't get too bummed out about that,
only because we did get away with Broderick Jones leaving
a lot early on the drive that would end up
being a touchdown, right, Yeah, so I thought that was
kind of like, Okay, that's a little karmic retribution ball
don't lie situation.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Let's I agree with.

Speaker 9 (01:15:52):
Bill when you complained about the refs after you lose,
you know what that makes you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
I loser there?

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Oh man, So now you got third quarter and U
rather this one was earlier than that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
This was.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
The save on Williams touchdown, the nine yard touchdown, which.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
I couldn't stand this play because this is the one
that Darius Lay just let him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
He olaid them into the end zone.

Speaker 20 (01:16:20):
Here shotgun formation for Love gets to snap, throws out
quickly wide rescrib screen to save you on Williams scoots
up the left sideline and he is in for a Green.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Bay Packers touchdown eight yards. That was nine minutes left
in the third quarter. Yeah, that was after the Yes,
it was after that Yemu and Matt made it sixteen
to fourteen. After the extra point, That's when it started
to crumble for the defense and you saw them starting
to quit.

Speaker 9 (01:16:51):
Thirty three years Slay did not defend every blade of grass.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
No, he did not because he's half day sele.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
The throw we've talking about this thirty three yarder jump
ball to Christian Watson. If you can stop him there,
you still got a shot. But they let Jordan Love
just throw it up for grabs and two Steelers can't
grab it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Watkins did or Watson did.

Speaker 20 (01:17:16):
Glove rolling out to the right, heating downfield has a
man down there. It's Watson and it's caught at the
seven yard line and there is a flag on the play,
I believe, but a long completion to Christian Watson and
there's a flag on the far side of the field
that it's gonna be against.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
The Steelers and it's gonna be declined.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Yeah, I forgot that there was a push off before that.

Speaker 9 (01:17:37):
I was holding on Joe reported that was starting seven.
You gotta get off the field.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
It's backbreaker.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Number one play of the game, though, is the one
we keep talking about where there were so many screw
ups on this and then you end up losing to
Shaun Elliott for what looks like is going to be
a considerable amount of time. A fifty nine yard reception
on third and five, third and five from the fifteen
and Tucker Craft pushes off a little bit, and you know,

(01:18:07):
I think that's a little gamesmanship.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
I'm not too pissed about that one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
But the way that Deshaun Elliott reacted and Thornhill's inability
to bring.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Him down there just sealed the Steelers faith.

Speaker 20 (01:18:18):
Love in the shotgun gets a snap, Steeler's bringing pressure,
Love under duress flings it up a few minutes, caught
my Craft a lofting ball when he.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Brings it in, hustling down the.

Speaker 20 (01:18:28):
Right sideline, dragging defenders, gets it tied to thirty all
the way down to the twenty six yard line. It
was a lame duck heaped up in the air by Love,
and it's Craft who makes the adjustment to come back
and make the catch and get it all the way
down to the twenty six yard line where DeShawn Elliott
now is writhing in pain.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Patrick adding injury to insult on that play.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Yeah, Patrick, Queen just inches away from making a huge
play there. If you bring Jordan Love down there and
make them punt out of their own ends zone, maybe
it's a different second half.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Or if you intercept the lame duck that too.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Yeah, I was unfamiliar with Tucker Craft's game, but last
night he looked like Gronk Dipton.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Ditka National tight ends day. He gets two touchdowns thirty
five to twenty five. The Packers embarrassed the Steelers at
home in every way possible, and they did it while
the Steelers were wearing the stupidest looking jerseys ever.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
It's the khaki pants, man, Yeah, curse of the khaki pants.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
But I don't hate the jerseys. I hate the khaki
pants and the yellow helmets. If they went murdered out
black on black or black with the rest of it,
you would not hate that jersey. I promise. It's not
the jersey. It's the kaki pants and the helmet and
the yellow sox.

Speaker 9 (01:19:42):
I hate the white numbers on the front too, but yeah,
I don't love that. You wouldn't see the crest if
you had black numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Well, our disappointment in the jerseys was far outweighed by
the output from the Steelers. I mean, in the second half,
I thought that touchdown to end the half was going
to dictate the pace of the second half, that the
Steelers were going to come out and feel pretty confident.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
I didn't like throwing the ball right away.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
I would have loved to keep establishing the run there, Mike,
eat up the clock because they owned the time of
possession in the first half, not the end I know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Yeah, bootleg right.

Speaker 9 (01:20:18):
It would ended up being to throwaway and then quick
pass to the side to friar Muth the game two
yards and then there was the penalty that wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
And Rumman Wilson should have caught that ball.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:20:30):
I didn't get a good look at the other end
of that. I mean he stayed in the fight. Yeah, absolutely,
I can't say that about a lot of guys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
What was DK doing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
I don't know, but I'm not gonna talk crap upon Himyah.
He's a massive person.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
But the two people that you really needed to make
big plays last night didn't DK dropping that one in
the end zone, were allowing the breakup, not securing the ball,
and John H. Smith, Look, you're still in it two
point conversion there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
To not come down with that ball.

Speaker 9 (01:21:01):
Yeah, just you know, another example of their lack of finish.
And they're the Green Bay making more.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Play making plays. Man. That past rush got to Rogers too.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Jerry Dulac will join us at eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Rob King for that sour Power hour Steeler talks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
SI Power Pittsburgh Power Challenge Challenge. Renegade came up small
less too. They should have played Renegade at the coin flip.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Sometimes I think you just should not play renegade. I'm
in the minority here. I understand that it's an experience
for how I kind of feel like it should be
a more special like, oh, we got to write, like
when you go to see like, you know, the Grateful
Dead and you're.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Like, we got a dark scar. You know, like it
should be a special thing, but it would be like
going to Disney World and not seeing the fireworks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
You agreed, Jacob. Do people of your age group thinks
similar earlier?

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Do you guys? Totally redundant at this point and ineffective.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
I think it's a fan service.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
But that's okay. I mean in and of itself, it's
not supposed to actually have magic.

Speaker 8 (01:22:11):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 19 (01:22:13):
It's also like a as we saw earlier this year,
who was it that it was Seattle?

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
They use it for their motivation now, yeah, other teams.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
I think the Bills did that to us one year
two where they just like pretended like, yeah, this is
our song.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Well that only works when they win, you know what
I mean, Like when when the Steelers aren't playing well
in the fourth quarter, you're hearing the go Pack go
on the broadcast, You stay in it, you beat their ass.
You don't hear those chants. You're not gonna scream go
Pack go if you're down two touchdowns.

Speaker 9 (01:22:44):
Those trunks might. But yeah, point take it. It was very
doublin like, well, you didn't think there's any viking.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
He sco until Addison catches that ball and they get
back in that game.

Speaker 9 (01:22:57):
Yeah, you know original the Terrible towel was just supposed
to be a special occasion thing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
I see. It was supposed to be big game thing,
a playoff game thing, and wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
Andy Russell was like, hey man, we're not a gimmicky
type team.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
We don't like this towel thing. I don't recall.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
I think Myrene actually got yelled at him about that.
I think Myrone I'm sure he did. He got really
pissed about that and then like schooled him on the
charity aspect of that whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
I'm bummed that the Jumbo package stopped working for them,
because my idea was to replace the terrible towel with boloney,
Like did we actually have jumbo packages?

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Yeah? And twirl baloney at the game. I mean that's
what the defense was doing last night. Twirl.

Speaker 9 (01:23:38):
I'm gonna jerk into another lane. Speaking of ridiculous calls,
the one on Rogers that was an incompletion where he
faced about to get sick, and he just dropped it, Like,
but he knows the rules. How is that not something

(01:23:59):
that fits the defense beyond an incompletion? I mean, it's
it can't say it scrambling because he's trying to throw
the ball and being hit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
I thought he fumbled it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
I'm like, he's trying to do too much to let
my tweet to lead my tweet.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
Ever, really, things just kind of dropped it like, oh,
there you go making a hand motion. And he's so smart,
so you know, the calls are the calls are screwed up.
They're making it up as they go along, and you
just got to work around it.

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Speaker 6 (01:25:39):
It's football season, So how about not wasting enough comes
up with.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
The sack.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Something one where he went through three people to sack
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Yeah, tough game for the for the Steelers last night.
If you're just tuning in, they played a great first
half and then.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
That would have been nice if you just watched the
first half and went to sleep. Yeah, maybe that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
I don't know if you could do that on Sunday
because it's a one o'clock game, but they play the Colts,
who are red hot.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
I don't think it'll get me at a Colts fan takeover.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
But it certainly was a Packers fan takeover at Akrotuer
Stadium last night. And I don't even know that it
was so many people though there were a lot, but
it had more to do with the fact that Steeler
fans were completely quiet. So the Packers fans who were
there and there was a lot, but not like the
San Francisco takeover that was the worst I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Because that game was non competitive from the jump.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Yeah, from like the first play.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
I actually was sitting in awesome seats for that game
with my dad for his eightieth birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
And this is how bad it was.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Forty nine Ers fans were rooting for the Steelers to
get a first down. Yeah, they're like, come on, man,
let's like make this a kid like complete a pass
or something like that makes it even worse.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
By the way, I have to congratulate the the Erie Diocese,
the Eerie Knights, the Catholic League champions who beat the
Pittsburgh iron Workers from the Catholic Diocese.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
It's like the went.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
I went to my nephew's game yesterday, the little like
the grade school football they played at Robert Morris Stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
It's awesome, and they be somehow they're part of the
Pittsburgh Diocese championship and they beat the Pittsburgh finalists.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
The they were called the iron Workers, And I like, you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Were talking about unions the church.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
No, there was an actual football game I saw where
there was good football played by seventh and eighth graders.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, there was a couple of kids.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
I was like, oh my god, these kids are amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
In that football field. At Bobby mo Is really nice.
They it. It was so picturesque yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
It was a one o'clock game, so the sun was out,
the clouds were up in the sky, like maple trees popping.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
There's a chapel on the hill. It looked like you're like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
In the middle of it, like New England in the
apex of the Fall Foliage season. It was beautiful, and
then you're moon. Meanwhile I was I was just hop moon.
And then of course drove in to the North Shore
to participate in a little pregaming for the Steelers game,

(01:28:33):
and then went home to watch the game. Yeah, because
I really like Chris Collinsworth. Everybody eats colors Worth. But
the funny thing is he pisses every single fan base off.
And it's only because there's something about his voice. If
your team's winning, you don't even get that Matt at

(01:28:54):
collins Worth, you're likeyay, you know whatever, he is what
he is. But when your team's losing, he just made
it sound like he absolutely loves the other team so
much that he's rooting for them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Ah, look at what jard loves that this. Yeah, if
you're not paying attention, that was twenty straight passes for
Jordan Love just a.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Gang straight comp Yeah. So he it's something about his
his vocal. It's not a fry I don't know, there's
something about his pukey voice.

Speaker 8 (01:29:26):
Then just like on the verge of like a cat vomiting, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Harry Carey on Red Bull. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
Wo My my reset word for Collinsworth impressions is mahomess.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
That is his like Brett Farv.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
You know that John Madden had that that that is
his guy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
But he pisses you off.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
When your team stinks because he just makes it sing
like your team really stinks.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
I just you know, I'll never be more pissed off
than I am at my own team when they stink.
I'm just I'm looking at the game last night, watching
the game, and I'm just like, where is the fight?
Why are we not out there hitting people?

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Kim Heyward said it they didn't have a lot of
fight in him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
Cool, well now, I mean after ten days off and
getting embarrassed.

Speaker 6 (01:30:28):
That's the thing is like, I know that ahead of
the game, and Randy you had expressed it quite a
bit that you were particularly concerned going into this game
and I was quiet in my optimism that I was like,
we had so much time off these defensive woes. This
will get rectified, and I'm not going to let them
know how confident I am that this is going to

(01:30:50):
be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
I didn't have a good feeling about this game at all.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Well, I mean, you heard me say many times Thursday
and Friday. Once I saw those ticket prices, I'm like,
you know what that means when they go out there,
that means the other the other fan.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Base is coming.

Speaker 6 (01:31:03):
Yeah, but I just thought that was because Packers fans
travel well, and they should.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
And this is their first time to travel and see
the quarterback that used to be on their team.

Speaker 8 (01:31:14):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 18 (01:31:15):
I did.

Speaker 6 (01:31:15):
That's kind of more where I was going, because again
that's what I mentioned aheaded Dublin. When we thought it
was going to be Packers and Steelers, we were kind
of like, oh man, that's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Even in retrospect, I'm glad it wasn't because that might
have been.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Our Super Bowl. Ew.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
It doesn't get any easier with the cults this Sunday
and then the Chargers after that, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
And then is it Flacco and then Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Yeah, Flacco.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
I mean, Flacco put up a lot of points yesterday,
but the Jets ended up getting the victory. AFC North
is just an awful division right now. The mess right
now just terrible. Abbey's got a news update for you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
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French officials described how the intruders used a basket lift
to scale the Louver's facade, forced open a window, smash
a display case, and fled. The museum's director called the
incident a terrible failure.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
So you saw the video of them coming down in
the basket? Yeah, how how the hell did they not catch?
Was one Thornhill in charge of that?

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
It looked like you could see it from a mile away?
Who buys that? Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
You steal it? It's worth eighty eight million? Great, who
are you selling that to?

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
You? Melt it? Yeah, melt it down to grow. I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
That's the only way they can get rid of it
is they have to like melt it all down.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Really. Yeah, that's I mean, that was the original story.

Speaker 6 (01:33:27):
That you did, right, because you can't go to what
are you gonna pawn a crown?

Speaker 10 (01:33:32):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Like can you chip a crown? Like?

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Do they have a security device inside of the artifact?

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
They have it for dogs? You think that have it
for crowns?

Speaker 8 (01:33:42):
Micro Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Have like a leash on it or a collar where
it just says the Louver Pierre.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Did you remember to put an iPhone tag on that crown?

Speaker 9 (01:33:52):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
No, come on, one.

Speaker 6 (01:33:56):
Job, that's gonna be the Halloween costume, Like that's the
quick one that everybody's gonna be able to put together.
Is just like where like you know, the everyday playing
clothes and put us ski mask on, be like I'm
a loove theb.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
I'm a I'm a loof theme. Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
If I don't know, I didn't sleep.

Speaker 6 (01:34:23):
Aerosmith and young Blood have released another version of My
Only Angel, which was the first song off of their
collaborative EP One More Time, But they have now a
Desert Road version and its acoustic version that also features comedian,
actor and musician Steve Martin on the banjo. You want

(01:34:43):
to hear it? Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Do you think they're trying to do like a country
crossover on this?

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
That guitar sounds like it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Steve's always granted picking. He's a great banjo player, is
always has been. It's interesting how good Steven Tyler's voice sounds.

Speaker 8 (01:35:28):
The lead there was young Blood.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
That's why it's not Steven Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
I thought I heard young Blood weaving in there. That
was that wasn't see one more.

Speaker 6 (01:35:38):
Time, Jacob, can you cue that up one more time?
The lead there is young Blood, as Steven Tyler is
in the background of that particular club.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Okay, that's Young Blood.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Yeah, Okay, that's why it sounded so good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Yeah, it sounds a lot like Tyler.

Speaker 8 (01:35:53):
They're very complimentary in that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
We're gonna find out Young Bull played the banjo too, right,
that's true.

Speaker 8 (01:36:00):
With his mouth, which also is very Stephen Tyler esque
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Yeah, Steve Martin was doing air banjo. Interesting collaboration.

Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
It is One More Time. It's going to be released
on November the twenty first. But Steven Tyler is the
one who said that. You know, he just imagined that
there would be a banjo in that song and he
kind of couldn't let it go, and so they had
to re record it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
With can't get this banjo out of my head?

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Guys, you have to do this, called Steve Martin exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:36:30):
Speaking of a different Martin, Chris Martin apparently is dating
Sophie Turner, which if you can't place that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
The redhead from where yes fell, I thought she was
married to a Jonas.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
Yeah, yeah, they've they've been split for a minute. They
called it quits in twenty twenty three, okay, and then
Chris broke it off this past summer with Jakota Johnson
after they were together for eight years.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
She's like the most gorgeous person on ever. I didn't
know they were together.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
Oh yeah, for like a long time, right, eight years?

Speaker 6 (01:37:02):
Yeah, But now it sounds like they were spotted together.
And actually it sounded like Sophie Turner was dating somebody else,
Peregreene Pearson.

Speaker 8 (01:37:14):
Does anybody know who that is?

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
That a falcon nose really does.

Speaker 8 (01:37:19):
But it was funny because the.

Speaker 6 (01:37:23):
Relationship with Pearson reportedly fizzled, but insiders claimed that Turner
and Pearson were lassing, bickering and arguing between feverish snogs
on the dunce floor before calling it quit feverish snogs.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Here and Pearson. We never take a fee unless we
get money for you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Have you been suffering from fever snogs? Well, then call
us hi.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
I'm Turner and Pearson. I know what you're thinking. It's
weird to have two last names.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
And one of us is a dog. I'm sorry, that's huge.
Let's Turner.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Another relationship, by the way that has seemingly h made
the rounds.

Speaker 8 (01:38:06):
This weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:38:06):
Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau made their first public appearance together.
I think they were feversally snogging They were attending a
cabaret show at Paris's Crazy Horse to Mark Perry's forty
first birthday, and they were holding hands smiling.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Oh man, she's a mess.

Speaker 6 (01:38:28):
You know how you can tell she's a mess smiling
he's smiling.

Speaker 8 (01:38:33):
You know it's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
She's breathing, I mean, and running around like she's riding
one of those stick ponies.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
How about him though, I mean, for someone who was
a states minute's kind of a not a great pr
move for him. He must be like, yeah, I'm done,
I am all done doing politics.

Speaker 16 (01:38:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:38:51):
I don't think you go back after that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Well, I don't know what you do after your whatever.
Prime Minister at Canner, what's the what's their title up there?

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
Prime minister head, looney hed looney boone.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
I mean, I don't know where you go. You know,
It's like once you're the president then what I don't know,
you know, but we might be finding out.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
Yeah, I mean, it does feel like he's jumped the
left shark for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
I am sixty today on the way for you might
pursuit U more from last night, just disaster a second half.
I mean, they in the first half, they stayed competitive,
They won the time of possession considerable amount. I think
it was like like seventeen and change at twelve and
change and score with thirty seven seconds left the throat

(01:39:42):
of DK and you think, all right, we got the
ball to start the second half, let's go on it
down their throat three and out and that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
It was over.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
We'll have Jerry du Laxton by. I know he was
no fan of the field. Here's my question to you
about a sure stadium's field. Isn't it the sports and
exhibition authority who are in charge of at People always
hanging on the Steelers, but is it really the steelers
responsibility or is it the sports and exhibition authorities responsibility?

(01:40:17):
Kind of like renting, you know what I mean, Like
if your roof is screwed up at your renting, it's
the landlord's responsibility, right, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
Yeah, I don't know. They got to fix it though.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
I don't ever remember this being a problem outside of
that one where they sowed it over the saw it
and the ball stuck in the ground in that Miami game, right,
I don't remember it being this big of an issue.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
No, I don't think it was a huge issue last night,
But there were some you saw people slip, and there
was a kick return where Gainwell slipped that was definitely
field related, and their kicker probably didn't love the field
surface when he was trying those field goals that he
missed last night. But I wonder who is in charge
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Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Sports update on the DVE Morning Show.

Speaker 9 (01:41:43):
You know, Charlie and I had so much fun doing
the post game last night, And I got a text
from Chris Davski late last night from the trip.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
He was finishing up his work in the press box.

Speaker 9 (01:41:56):
Yeah, I don't think he'll mind me sharing with h
buzz if you do mine. Sorry, And I quote got
in the car just in time to hear the last
two callers. The first one cursed, the second one was snoring.
Never changed, Pittsburgh snoring.

Speaker 27 (01:42:17):
Somebody fell as that was an accurate description of uh
thirty five twenty five Colts over the Steelers, And it
wasn't that close, and it was way uglier, uglier than
that implies.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
That kind of describes the defensive effort in the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
Yeah, one I swear and one guy snoring.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
Yeah, I mean that's how I was watching the game.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
I was swearing at the TV in the first half
and I was snoring by the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:42:44):
They had it going the way they wanted it two
in the first half, and it changed quickly and dramatically
in the second half, and by the fourth quarter it
was an absolute collapse.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
You just knew it, I mean you just felt it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
You watched it after they after they scored, you felt like, well,
we can't stop them again, They're going to score at
least two more touchdowns, and then they did.

Speaker 9 (01:43:07):
The problems plaguing the Steelers defense are surprising to those
tasks with playing defense for the Steelers. Patrick Queen is
among those at a loss. Hey, the whole team was
last night, had a loss to explain why what's.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Been happening keeps happening.

Speaker 24 (01:43:21):
I think you just gotta do it at practice. We
do it at practice. I think when you get to
the game and some go left, kind of get a
little timid or whatever whatever you want to call it.
From that, I think you just gotta hone in, lock
in and just be ready for the next play, in
the next play, in the next player, just keep going
like as a Warriors game, Like things ain't always be perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
We just got a battle back.

Speaker 9 (01:43:42):
Yeah, Timid's not something that should be part of the equation.
Cam Heyward said the Steelers lack fight, among other things
against the Packers last night, and Queen acknowledged an inability
to respond when things started going south. Riss he put
it left h Man ended up on the easy paths
to disaster last night.

Speaker 24 (01:44:03):
At act for sure, I think sometimes when you get
beat you kind of get frustrated, especially like maybe you
knew the situation or maybe you just got beat man
and man like whatever it is. I think when it
comes to that, I think you kind of get frustrated
as a human, you know, and as a player because
you want to be great. You're competitive. I think every
single go on our defense competitive and don't want to
lose a reup. So I think that's when we just
got to hone in on the details and just be better,

(01:44:24):
just be honed in just ever since I already seeing
be physical, be fast, and be aggressive.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
Yeah, the mental toughness that it takes to overcome a
mistake or a bad play or a big splash play
and just get back out there and keep fighting.

Speaker 9 (01:44:37):
Hasn't been there. It's amazing from that aspect of it.
And again, you know, schematics and playmaking aside the emotion
we saw them play with in Dublin and here against
Cleveland versus what we've seen at Cincinnati and again last night,

(01:44:57):
it's just night and day.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
Kind of feel like we'll just be spinning our wheels
talking about this team over and over weekend and week out,
and the same issues are going to rise. And it's
because of one simple issue, and it is unfixable. It
is poorly constructed. The defense is a poorly constructed team.
The players they got are not good enough. When you

(01:45:21):
have to switch out your secondary and your linebackers based
on whether you think it's a running play or a
passing play, you do not have a properly constructed defense.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
The best defenses have a bunch of players that are
not coming off the field.

Speaker 9 (01:45:38):
Yeah, and then if somebody gets hurt, you put a
guy in and he's still good. And yes, the wheels
don't fall off because you're missing one guy or two guys.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
You just deal with what you have to deal with.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
Right, Mike, Like, that's way different than a rotation when
they have guys on the defensive line different and linebackers
that they like and that they want to keep that
relentless pass rush going your site, guys in and out.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
This is not that it's like I'm at a loss
to get the perfect analogy for it. But it reminds
me of like when you get in your buddy's car
and he's like, oh, you want to roll down the
window here, use these vice gripts.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
No, no, no, it works, No, you just have to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
There's always like somebody, it's probably not the right something's
jerry rigged, is what I'm trying to say. It's always
like no, no, we have a workaround for it on everything,
instead of no, everything just works.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
It never just works. There's always an oven mid on
the dash because our defroster is out.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Right exactly, Oh do you want to turn the TV channel?
Oh well, you got to stand over there and put up.
But it'll work. You just have to be the perfect
scenario and then it'll work.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
And they see if they.

Speaker 9 (01:46:43):
Keep doing this, because you know, it's not a video game.
And I think part of the problem with miss Signmon's
and miscommunication or maybe guys not reacting is that they're
in and out.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
It's disjointed personality. Reaching here makes perfect sense.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
I'm complaining about this for years, just the caravan of
guys going on and off the field every single time.

Speaker 9 (01:47:06):
Decide who is the more complete player, Cole Holcomb or
Peyton Wilson, and play that ride with him for a series.
Then you know, if it comes to the third series,
put the other guy in. You do that with running
backs all the time. You know it doesn't have to
be a one hundred percent thing. But I don't see
it working when it's down to down in series and

(01:47:27):
the guys in the secondary play Clark or play Thornhill. Okay,
just play one of them and then you know, two
three series later, put the other guy in. But give
a guy a chance to lather up a little and
get into the game and react in different situations and
see different things, and maybe they can anticipate better.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
I don't know I'm reaching, but uh, I don't think
you are.

Speaker 9 (01:47:48):
I don't think there's a you know, do this and
it'll be fixed answer to this. And that's the concerning
part for the Steelers definitely was not mystical. It took
place in the second half last night against the Packers.

Speaker 24 (01:48:06):
They were better and we weren't. I think that's the
symbole is not gonna put it. I think day one
day rest and we lost ours. Patrick Queen brutally honest.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Lie to me. Patrick.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
Come on, when you watch the Williams touchdown in slow
motion and you look where Sleigh started and where he finished,
it will make you wonder what the hell he was
possibly thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
How about his business?

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Nick, I know it's a business decision and all that,
but like I made it get It would have been
third and one if he blasts him out of bounds,
but it's still third and one.

Speaker 9 (01:48:38):
Like Mike, he could they could fall start, something can happen.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
You could stuff them.

Speaker 4 (01:48:42):
Yeah, you see highlights every week. You're guys getting stuffed
on the goal line.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
They also or they take a penalty and they go
back ten here like things happen there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
He let him walk into the end zone.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
And again, if you look at it, Mike, it's from
where he ended up.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
He would have pushed him out at the two.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
But what I'm saying is go back and look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
He could have got him out at the three or
the four if he attacked the ball. He did not.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
He lazily moves over there and then olays them to me,
That's like what Cam Hayward is talking about when you're
saying we don't have a lot of fighting this that's
zero fight.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
Yeah, and that's I mean, I don't know how you
fix that either, Well, you change the person out.

Speaker 9 (01:49:29):
Cam's a captain, TJ. Watson captain on defense? Do they
deal with that? Do the coaches deal with that? Do
you do you change defensive play callers? Do you change
people out. I mean, they're playing to people they thought
were the best people.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Maybe they're not who they thought they.

Speaker 9 (01:49:47):
Were, not even close so far. And you know, one
one thing that's been lacking the last three games is
with no turnovers. It's at least two, right m hm.
In the best of times, they've given up yards. But
then the turnover e racer comes out and you fix
it that way. If you're not getting them turnovers, that's

(01:50:09):
when you start giving up points, apparently.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
And that's what this defense is constructed to do. Be opportunistic,
take the ball away, and then beat the dead horse
one more time. Williams is on the thirteen yard line,
slays about six yards from the sidelines. If he takes
a direct route to him, maybe get Hi about five
or four yard line.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
There he stutter steps. He takes like a jumping stutter step, like, oh,
I think someone else is gonna get Oh no, it's
my responsibility, like zero attack zero, letting the play come
to him and then deciding I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Even want to make that play.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
Somebody just tweeted at me Lambert would a clothes line
that guy and then poked him in the eyes when
he was down on the grind.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
We DK did that and he got a penalty for it. Yeah,
he keeps doing like the three stooges routine. The NFL
has got soft no, but took guy's eyes out no more.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
He hit DK on the same exact play, knocked him
out of bounds.

Speaker 9 (01:51:08):
You know, Steel's completed past to Kenneth Gaywell and they
knocked the ball out.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's allowed, can be done. Yeah, you might
as Xavier grimble him. You don't know. Well, I mean
Thornhill too, trying it from the past.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
Yeah, I mean Thornhill trying to tackle Craft up top.
Was I mean he got stiff armed into oblivion twenty
springing down a guy that size up top.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Twenty five to thirty yards extra yack on that because
he couldn't tackle him.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Just took a poor angle. I take it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
It's ridiculous that they let him catch it. But yeah,
and it was a push off, but but.

Speaker 9 (01:51:53):
I mean that was just I'm gonna get killed. I'm
just even this ball up for anybody that wants it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
It's hard to watch any of these replays and be
excited about Indie coming in here this week, because.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
They are on a roll. They are on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
But the Packers we are a dumpster fire.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
We are The Packers are a good team though, I
will say that, like that wasn't the Bengals going out
there and having that you know performance, They are a
good team.

Speaker 9 (01:52:24):
Wye the Bengals, I mean they scored thirty eight on
the Jets. Yeah, I think people at hard time wrapping
her head around Flacco being good. But that with those
two receivers, that offense is established. If you can activate
those guys, they score, right. Their problem has always been
the defense. You know, Jets beat them with thirty nine.
They didn't say, well we got thirty one. That should

(01:52:46):
have been enough to win.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
Yeah, but I have no problem with if the Packers
beat you. It's the way they beat you. It does
not denote good things going forward. And then those injuries
are significant, big times.

Speaker 9 (01:53:00):
You lose that game last night, thirty eight to thirty five,
and you're thinking a little better.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Well, because you have confidence that they're getting better and
going in a direction where down the stretch it's more
important that you are firing on all cylinders in the
second half of the season heading into the playoffs, Like
there's no indication this team is figuring anything out. Aaron
Rodgers is the best thing they have going right now,
and he's running around for his life.

Speaker 9 (01:53:26):
Let's tell you the scene at the end of the
game after it was over, the amount of people that
hung around cheering and chanting and watching the TV postgame
show and waiting for those few Packer guys to come
off the field, and then just they were chanting.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
As Steeler fans have done that in plenty of stadiums
around the country.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
They got it shoved right back last night.

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sure you're a little tired, and you know you stayed
up to the bitter end.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
You know, here's my first question for you. You know,
early on they were doing something that was working. And
why do you think they got away from getting the
ball to Spencer Anderson Because I think if they would
have just kept throwing the ball that he's a hard
guy to bring down.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Maybe that was.

Speaker 18 (01:56:14):
The funny games, the funniest thing. Aaron Rodgers said after
the game, without blinking, without hesitation. He was asked about
Sayamalo's injury and how did that impact, you know, you know,
the offensive line. He says, well, he says I lost
my he says, I lost one of my pass catchers. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:56:39):
you see him. You don't see a throat of seventy
four too often to you, especially early in the game.
What's second play of the game now?

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
I mean the first half it was, you know, back
and forth. It was a slog, no doubt about it.
But it looked like the Steelers were on the right
end of it. Time of possession clearly in their favor,
Rogers driving them down the field and eating up the
clock the entire way before the DK Metcalf touchdown full
well knowing they're getting the ball back, and then it
was a tail of two halves last night, How does

(01:57:06):
Mike Tomlin contend with what seems to be less about
execution on the level of like people just not doing
their jobs the way they're supposed to.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
They talked about gap integrity the week before.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
They seem to have short up a little bit of
that in controlling Josh Jacobs, particularly in the first half.
But this seemed like an issue of effort, fight, and
just zero determination or will to win this game in
the second half. That's an attitude issue and a culture issue,
isn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:57:37):
Jerry, Well, Well, if that's the case, now, you know you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
Ki Hayward said it was the case.

Speaker 18 (01:57:45):
Yeah, well that yeah, well that could well be. But
I think the question becomes not people are doing their job,
but people being able to do their job. And I
think that's what it comes down to. But you did
see to your point, Randall, in the first half, you know,
they shut down their run. We haven't seen that they
did a really good job. They were running. The Baldy
had eighty one yards fifty by Jalen Warren. They had

(01:58:08):
moved up and down the field enough to get three
field goals and the touchdown, and you're right, it was
a tail two halves. But they're they're not getting the
pressure that they were getting early. They are not getting
I don't mean in the game, I mean in earlier,
earlier games. They're not getting the pressure. Now. Jordan Love

(01:58:28):
wasn't sacked. We saw what happened last week with Joe Flacco,
and Jordan Love wasn't exactly getting it out as quick
as Joe Flacco. He's hurting them down the field. And
probably the thing that is most disturbing now in the
last two games is all these moves they made in
the offseason in the secondary, you know, other other than

(01:58:52):
Jalen Ramsey. With the exception of last week, none of
those guys are really making plays. They're not making a difference,
and so.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
Is a great player.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Deshaun Elliott has ended up being a lot better than
I think a lot of people anticipated. But the idea
that he's the lynchpin as to whether or not this
defense is any good is crazy. Given that you paid
Patrick Queen the amount of money you paid Patrick Queen,
you pay TJ what you paid him, you pay Cam
what you pay You have all of these superstar payroll
guys on the defense and Deshaun Elliott goes out and

(01:59:29):
it falls apart.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
That is a poorly constructed defense.

Speaker 18 (01:59:34):
I think it was already falling apart before he went out.
And yeah, Deshaun Elliott is the most stable guy that well,
Deshaun Elliott and Ramsey. But my point is when you
bring in all those guys, you're bringing them in for
a reason to make a difference in the secondary, and
we have not seen a difference, uh in the secondary.
And you look at all the I mean there were
a couple plays and especially those third down plays that

(02:00:00):
that hurt them, where Jordan Love just put the ball
up basically heaved the ball up and they came down
with the plays. You know, Tyler Tucker Craft made one
play that catch and run fifty nine yards and then
Christian Watson made the other one. And so they're not
they're not making any of those types of plays in

(02:00:21):
the secondary. And when you make those kinds of moves
in the offseason to strengthen your secondary, and you're not
seeing an impactful difference. With the exception of plays by
Jayalen Ramsey over, I'm talking about this whole body of
work here in the early part of the season. There's
not a whole lot of difference from what we've seen
last year to what we're seeing this year. And and

(02:00:42):
you know, when you give up what they give up
again last night thirty five points. That's four games of
thirty plus thirty one plus points already four hundred and
fifty four yards offense. After giving up four to seventy
last week. You know their inability to stop these teams.
And I know Green Bay is a good football team,
but they did okay in the first half and the
second half complete the complete reversion.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
I know they're gonna have trouble with getting the jumbo
package out there with Samalu injured.

Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
But I don't have as many concerns about the offense.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
I think they can still put points up if Arthur
Smith calls the right game. I don't think after the
first half that Jalen Warren had going away from him
immediately with the first three plays of the second half
was the smart thing to do. But all right, that nowithstanding,
I think that the offense can still perform at a
level where we can win games defensively. Right now, it
is an absolute miss. This is the number one problem

(02:01:34):
that they have. And if Mike Tomlin truly is not
running the defense and not calling the defense as they say,
Torell Austin continues to assert that he's the one in charge.
If that's the case, does something happen there? In other organizations,
play calling duties get thrown around in season with regularity.

Speaker 18 (02:01:57):
Yeah, and so now said that Taro Austin said he
runs the defense.

Speaker 9 (02:02:03):
Well, he has said multiple times he's calling the plays.

Speaker 18 (02:02:07):
He's calling some of the plays. That is correct, and
I would say he calls the majority of the place,
but he does not call all the plays and he's
only doing just even like with Arthur Smith, Arthur Smith
calls the plays, he makes the game plan, but he
makes the game plan under Mike Tomlins. Tomlins umbrella the
way they want to approach a game. And so but

(02:02:29):
to your point, Randall, yeah, if I mean, if that's
what you think is the problem, I don't mean you,
I just mean in general, then yeah, you could see
that happening. But I mean, you know they're not going
to look at what's going on so far and say
this guy is falling. The last two games have not
been good defensively, and the first half it was it
was and then it goes back.

Speaker 28 (02:02:52):
Or the guys are the guys that you brought in
as good as you thought they were and you and
to your point, you're paying guys a lot of money
to not make a lot of plays, and so you
know there you know for all.

Speaker 18 (02:03:06):
That money that they're paying, the defense and the return
you're getting. I don't have a problem with Patrick Queen.
I think Patrick Queen has played very well, but it's
it doesn't come down to individual efforts as much as
much as it does, as Mike Tomlin likes to say,
the collective. But then you have to look at, Okay,
are the guys you're using not making the plays? Or

(02:03:26):
are are they not as good as maybe you thought
they were because you know what they did in the
offseason and and how giddy they were about the moves
that they made. We're not seeing that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:38):
Miles Garrett at five sacks, TJ.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Watt seems to be a guy who is all of
a sudden, I don't want to say easy to neutralize,
but he seems to be somebody that offenses can figure
out how to handle.

Speaker 18 (02:03:56):
He's been he's been non impactful. Uh, and there's.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
To be judicious about that.

Speaker 18 (02:04:02):
Yet I know you are. I know you are, and
and and I understand, and so you know, I don't
know how much I don't you know teams are posing teams,
you know, because obviously I'm not around them during the week,
and I don't, you know, I don't have the insight
into other teams. But the way the Steelers game planned
against Miles Garrett and the way the Steelers game planned

(02:04:26):
against Michael Parsons last night, I don't know if other
teams are paying that same kind of mindset. I'll go
back to the Atlanta game last year. What was it
Week one or Week two? Where Raheem Morris said, we're
not gonna let t J. Watt uh, you know, dominate

(02:04:47):
the game.

Speaker 16 (02:04:47):
And t J.

Speaker 18 (02:04:48):
Watt dominated the game, so obviously they tried to game
plan against them, and he wrecked their game plan. Well,
we haven't seen that happen a whole lot. And that's
the guy who is going to make uh you know,
is going to be the you know, the guy. Let's
face it, he is the lynchpin of the defense. He's
the guy who makes it go, whether they creating, you know,
with sacks or forcing fumbles, big plays at big times.

(02:05:11):
And we haven't seen that from him. And and that's
you know, that's a They're paying a guy a lot
of money to do that and it hasn't been happening.

Speaker 16 (02:05:19):
Cherry.

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
Do you like broughty By? Always say flagging and traffic control?
This morning on d v E, Jerry D when's the
next radio show?

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
You're doing well?

Speaker 18 (02:05:29):
Tim Bens and I Tonight Monday Night Quarterback on nine
seventy am Box Sports Radio. Tomorrow night, I am with
the uh Calvin Austin for Chalk Talk that's live at
the Giants Eagle Market District in Robinson, and then I'm
on with you guys again next month next Monday. So

(02:05:52):
but that's that's what I got tonight and tomorrow, and
of Mike Tomlin news conference tomorrow for those people who'd
like to listen. I wrap it up up Tuesday after.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
Does Pitt play on the field again this weekend?

Speaker 18 (02:06:03):
That's there for Okay, I couldn't tell you, but all
of a sudden, I guess all the pit bands don't
like me.

Speaker 4 (02:06:12):
Because of your tweet last night that you could see
the pit logo underneath the Steelers logan.

Speaker 16 (02:06:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (02:06:16):
Well, well I think it was the other day when
I said, you know they, I said, they resawed the
field and get it all ready for prime time after
all the complaints in the national embarrassment. And I said,
and so what happens Pitt plays on it first. And
all you had to do is if you were, you know,
above the field, put the binoculars on the field and

(02:06:36):
see all the divot marks for this brand new field
that they wanted to get that they were hopefully going
to get ready for prime time. I mean, it played fine,
but I mean for a brand new field, it didn't
look like a brand new field after Pitt played. And
that's what happens when you play. I don't care who
it is. I don't care if it was Pitt Penn State, LSU, Alabama.
It's the it's the traffic that they have on the field.

(02:06:58):
And you know, after all the noise about how bad
it was, and now you know, you know, it became
a national story and now you have national primetime and uh,
you know the field wasn't exacting. You wouldn't exactly say
it was in pristine condition. It wasn't Oakmond or Laurel Valley.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
Let's best that, Jerry D. Thanks buddy, We'll talk to
you next week.

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Speaker 2 (02:08:31):
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Speaker 8 (02:08:31):
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Speaker 2 (02:08:34):
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Speaker 4 (02:08:36):
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Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
First half hour of this power hour of Steeler Talk,
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Well they got trucked in the second half last night. Yeah,
and there is no shortage of reasons to be angry
if you're a Steelers fan. Right now, I'm giving the
offense pass on just about everything, even though there's plenty

(02:09:03):
to not like about the execution in the second.

Speaker 3 (02:09:06):
Half, but the defense is so bad.

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
It's like complaining about a hangnail when you've got, you know,
pancreatic cancer.

Speaker 20 (02:09:12):
Let's yeah, I don't know how you figure this well that.
You know, the offense could have been better in the
second half, for sure. You know at the.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
At halftime sixteen to seven, they're not running the ball.

Speaker 20 (02:09:25):
You are running the ball against the you know, the
second best rush defense in the league. Look good, you're
gonna get the ball to begin the second half at
sixteen to seven. That was really the turning point. I
mean the non off side against Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
Look at it. It wouldn't have been.

Speaker 20 (02:09:39):
A first down I think would have made it third
and three or something like that. It would have been
third and manageable. Would have been okay. With Rum and
Wilson catching that ball, that would have been nice too.
There were a couple of opportunities that slipped away. It's
good to see him more involved in the offense, but
there were a couple of there. There's a long win
to DK metcalf that got knocked away from him.

Speaker 2 (02:09:57):
I mean there was a touchdown.

Speaker 20 (02:09:58):
Yeah, it would have been a touchdown there was plays
the Steelers' offense left out in the field and then
you know, you pin them deep, you get a third
and long, and then you know that sort of wounded
duck ball up the right sideline to craft that went
for fifty nine yards.

Speaker 2 (02:10:10):
That was like the turning point of the game.

Speaker 20 (02:10:12):
But again, look at some point you got to stem
the tide somewhere. You've either got to respond there and
go on a long drive, or you've got to come
up with a stop and get the ball back, or
you've got to create a turnover.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
They not only didn't create a turnover yesterday.

Speaker 20 (02:10:27):
I know the Packers had two balls on the ground
that the Steelers didn't recover, and so that's you know,
you could call that a little bit of bad luck perhaps,
but they didn't do anything. They didn't get any pressure
on Love, they didn't create any turnovers. And so I mean, ultimately,
when you give up twenty eight points and a half
of football, you're not gonna win.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Well, they're not getting deep into the opponent's side of
the field. Ever, everyone keeps saying, like the drive stall,
they're not much of a drive when you're banging fifty
six yard field.

Speaker 20 (02:10:55):
Goals, right, the other thing that that's like two first downs.
Yeahon Aaron rodd you know, they called it the high
red zone. Aaron Rodgers called it the high reds. So
they got to be better there. They just they stalled,
all their drive stalled. I mean, you've you know, thank
goodness for uh for Boswell. I mean, think about the
fact that they missed two field goals, right, you know
they could have to make they could have had forty

(02:11:15):
last night. Yeah, think about that, they could have forty
points last night. They missed field goals. And you have
Boswell who's just incredible banging field goals through for you.
He's a great weapon for you. But you can't rely
on that. You can't, you know. And again I don't
know whether I don't know whether they're you know, what
they're going to do here, if they're going to try to,
you know, change their game plan or whatever. But it's

(02:11:39):
hard right now. I think if you're the Steelers to
trust that a defense that's given up thirty or more
points four times in seven games is going to do
what they've historically done, which is win the game for
you put it away, you know. I mean often in
the last several years when the Steelers have had, you know,
other quarterbacks, you know, between Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers,

(02:12:02):
guys that maybe you didn't trust offensively on a third
and six in a game you're winning by three, so
you punt it away and trusted defense is going to
stop them. Well, this defense is given up over thirty points.
I mean, I'm not giving it. This is no revelation.
Just look at the numbers. They've given up more than
thirty points four times in seven games.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
Kenger, I'm just so fed up with seeing different players
on the field defensively every down. Isn't it time for
them to just stick with Holcombe or Wilson or Peppers
or Thornhill or Clark, Like, let's pick some defensive players

(02:12:44):
and let them get in the rhythm and let that
communication actually start to work, because I think what's lost
in the translation of it all is the constant changing
of personnel. It looks a situational football that allows the
other team to play that same chess game with you.

Speaker 20 (02:13:03):
Well, I mean it's certainly. I mean there's a lot
of things on defense, and so you know when you're
seeing guys, you know, look, people have said too many substitutions.
People have said they're too slow right in the secondary.
In the back end, you have these veteran guys you
brought in with great resumes, but they're too slow. And
we saw Tucker Craft running away from people at the
tight end position last night. Well, we're not talking about

(02:13:25):
Golden and Watson, who can fly, we're talking about the
tight end. He's a good one, as we saw last night,
but he's running away from people on and so you're
getting other teams are able to find what I'm sure
they're perceiving as mismatches, either schematically or personnel wise. You know,

(02:13:46):
I have look, they made big plays down the field,
but they also just simply threw balls into the flat
and we're picking up ten twelve yards a rip on
plays that you know, you throw ball out in the flat.

Speaker 2 (02:13:59):
It's first down.

Speaker 20 (02:14:00):
If you get six, you're pleased, right, Hey, second and four,
that's a really good play in the flat.

Speaker 2 (02:14:04):
It just felt like they were getting more.

Speaker 20 (02:14:05):
I haven't looked back at the numbers, but it felt
like they were getting a lot more than that in
the flat.

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
Didn't coach Tomlin kind of refute that In the post
game he was asked about it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:15):
He's like, ah, that's not why we gave up three
hundred yards passing.

Speaker 2 (02:14:17):
No, because they did give up.

Speaker 20 (02:14:18):
I mean, you give up a fifty nine yard at
a craft and you give up other long plays that
you don't want to give up, and that's you know,
those make the yard to jad up.

Speaker 2 (02:14:24):
But it was all part of it.

Speaker 20 (02:14:26):
I mean, I think the point is that, you know,
there's a lot of things like that was my point.
There's a lot you know, so last week in Cincinnati, well,
you don't take away Chase, you don't take away Higgins.

Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
But you also don't take away their running game.

Speaker 20 (02:14:36):
And so teams are fact they did an okay job
with that in the half especially, they did an excellent
job on Jacobs throughout the game. And then you know,
Wilson started to run the ball more effectively in the
second half. But again at halftime, if you told me, hey,
sixteen to seven, this is these are the rushing totals,
right the Steelers at eighty one. I think the Packers
had they they had less than twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:14:57):
I think, you know, here's the score, and you get
the ball to begin the second half.

Speaker 20 (02:15:02):
Okay, you know, let's march down the field. Maybe stop,
you know, settling for a field goal, you punch one
in and it's twenty three to seven. Instead you go
three and out. You don't get a call. There's one
that I'm sure Roman Wilson it was a good play,
but I think it was Nixon defensively, Yeah, you know, Wills.
I'm sure Roman would like to have that one back.

(02:15:22):
Perhaps it was a good play by Nixon though too.
He's a two time pro bowler, and there were some
plays the offense left out there. But ultimately, you know,
when you score twenty five points, you're gonna win a
good portion of your games. The Steelers almost always win
them when they score more than twenty almost always. And
this is back to back weeks when that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:15:42):
Why do you think Arthur Smith came out in the
second half and got away from the running game, which
was paying dividends in the first half.

Speaker 20 (02:15:50):
Well, I think some of it, and again I have
to would have to go back and look at each play,
but some of it was penalties, you know, the penalties
the Steelers had. The Steelers didn't rack up like one
hundred yards in penalties, but it felt like every penalty
was just a killer they got themselves, you know, there
was there were two after the whistle calls, one on

(02:16:10):
herbing on the punt that all of a sudden, now
when you're trying to stem the tide that gets the
Packers of the ball a your forty five yard line.

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
Well that's troublesome.

Speaker 20 (02:16:18):
And then you then on a draft on a drive
later in the fourth, you know you've got the ball
and you're and you're trying to you're trying to, you know,
make it third and manageable, and instead after the play
you get a fifteen yard penalty. So now you have
second in law and so second in like eighteen or something,
and they're just not equipped to overcome those kind of

(02:16:40):
things offensively. So I think the penalties there weren't a
ton of them, but they really hurt.

Speaker 2 (02:16:44):
The Steelers in this game too, when they became one dimensional.

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
It was over too because the pass rush, like you said,
it was just insane. This is was rather the turning
point of the game.

Speaker 20 (02:16:54):
Love in the shotgun gets the snap. Steel's bringing pressure.
Love under Durest feel that it's caught by craft a
lofting ball and he brings it in hustling down the
right sideline dragging defenders gets inside the thirty all the
way down of the twenty six yard line.

Speaker 2 (02:17:11):
It was a lame duck heaved.

Speaker 20 (02:17:13):
Up in the air by Love, and it's Craft who
makes the adjustment to come back and make the catch
and get it all the way down to the twenty
six yard line where de Shawn Elliott now is writhing
in pain.

Speaker 1 (02:17:24):
Thornhill lets it get almost thirty yards extra by not
wrapping him up there. Thornhill also misjudges the thirty three
yarder to Watson later in the game, which was also
you know, I for Rus Wilson has the moonball, Jordan
Love's got the jump ball.

Speaker 20 (02:17:41):
Yeah, and then at the end of that Elliott got hurt, right,
and that's that's you know, we've seen we've seen that
movie with aut Elliott this year and it hasn't been good.

Speaker 18 (02:17:51):
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:17:51):
But I was saying this earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
With all of those high priced, big name defensive stars,
the fact that it's Elliott that makes the Jenga tower
fall for them defensively is perplexing to me.

Speaker 20 (02:18:07):
Yeah, the I think it is safe to say, and
I don't think anybody. I don't see how you could
disagree with the fact that the whole does not seem
to equal to some of its parts right now. I mean,
you have very good players on that defense and for
whatever reason, again, I'm not going to use adjectives to
describe it. I'm just gonna say they've given up thirty

(02:18:28):
or more points in four out of seven games.

Speaker 2 (02:18:30):
So you've got star power, You've.

Speaker 20 (02:18:32):
Got guys you've given contract extensions to, You've got guys
that you've invested high draft picks in, and this is
not what you expected to see.

Speaker 4 (02:18:40):
Is it like in baseball where just a whole team
is slumping like it's contagious. Because we talked the last
break with Jerry Dee about TJ. Watt not winning nearly enough,
not being impactful. But part of it is that all
the attention he's getting, somebody else has got to win,
and nobody else on that line is winning it.

Speaker 20 (02:18:59):
Well, they had a couple of moments in this game,
and including that pass that loved just through. There were
some moments last week in Cincinnati in which the Steelers,
who have one of the heavier blitz percentages in the
NFL this year, aren't getting home. So I think the
notion that a lot of us had coming in was
you go out and get Ramsey. You have sleigh, you

(02:19:21):
have porter. This equips you to come up and play
some brighter coverage.

Speaker 2 (02:19:26):
Right now.

Speaker 20 (02:19:27):
This allows you to unleash the blitz. So you go,
your quarterback, you see the blitz coming, you go to throw. Oh,
he's not open because he's being pressed with man coverage.
Now in that second that you have to try to
look somewhere else or double clutch.

Speaker 2 (02:19:39):
It too late.

Speaker 20 (02:19:41):
The blitz has gotten home and the pass rush has
gotten home, and neither one of those things has been true.
You know, the quarterback has been able to stop throw
quickly and find open receivers or if he has to
think again, he's got time. The last couple of weeks,
the blitz just hasn't gotten home. You know what is
the issue? I don't know, but I don't think it's

(02:20:02):
you talk about. You know, you just mentioned you know personnel,
you know, uh, guys running in and out of the field.
You know, teams being able to use their best weapons
to exploit your defense. There's just a litany of issues
right now, and they've got to get it fixed because
I mean this is you know, statistically, I believe they

(02:20:23):
have the worst.

Speaker 2 (02:20:23):
I haven't seen the updated SATs. I believe they have
the worst pass defense in the league, you.

Speaker 20 (02:20:27):
Know, and and I mean it's uh, it's a tough
way to tough way to live. So what they're gonna
do and what the core issues are, it's difficult for
me to say, because I think there's more than one.

Speaker 1 (02:20:39):
Rob king voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers here on your
radio home with the Black and Gold one on two
point five d V. The worst pass defense in the
league is the Cowboys, okay, and next worst is the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (02:20:58):
But good news is we're full two.

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
Yards better a game than those guys right now, one
and a half yard still, Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:21:06):
Here comes Michael Pittman, junior Tyler Warren and a best
running game in the league.

Speaker 20 (02:21:11):
Yeah, I mean, suddenly the Colts are formidable, right, and
this has got it? I mean, look, man, you know
when the Steelers were off to the four and one start,
people said, and with some justification, look, you know who
they really beaten.

Speaker 2 (02:21:25):
That's that's any good, right.

Speaker 20 (02:21:26):
You played Seattle, you lost to them. You know you
got to you got you know, the Vikings, and you
get a couple of decent wins on your resume, But
what's gonna happen when you get into the teeth of
the schedule. And you know, my feeling has always been like,
just win the games early and you'll figure out where
you are and continue to progress.

Speaker 2 (02:21:43):
And now you've lost.

Speaker 20 (02:21:45):
Too in a row, and you've got the top team
in the AFC coming in and the Colts, and then
you got to go on the road to the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (02:21:52):
You still haven't played the Bills.

Speaker 20 (02:21:53):
You have two games against the Ravens, who are gonna
get everybody back and healthy. I mean, you know, at
least the life this is life in the NFL. But
you've got to reverse the trend. Lately, you're still in
first place. That's great. You've got to reverse the trend
because that won't last if you continue to play like this.

Speaker 2 (02:22:11):
They've got to they've got to find a way to
play better defense.

Speaker 1 (02:22:14):
I think the issues are much bigger than anything that
we can really tackle, right And this is what the
frustrating thing about is. I think we're going to be
like talking about so much involving personnel and execution and
things like that. As the Steelers middle their way through
the muddle, their way to the middle, I should say again,

(02:22:35):
And I honestly think that it's the message just gets lost.
Mike Sullivan was a great coach. He is now a
New York Rangers coach and not doing so great there
by the way, and the guy here is doing great.
I just wonder if this message is getting through anymore,
if Mike Tomlin is as effective as he's capable of being.

(02:22:58):
Sometimes it's just that it stops resonating. It's it can
be that simple. It doesn't have to have anything to
do with ability. Everyone keeps saying, oh, he's gonna he'll
get snapped up in a second. And I know that
it's the middle of the season right now, or almost
of the middle of the season here, but that's got

(02:23:18):
to be something that people are thinking about within the organization,
is are we gonna keep doing this every year?

Speaker 20 (02:23:26):
Well, look, they need to, they need to make some adjustments.
And you know when I when when.

Speaker 2 (02:23:31):
We talk about this.

Speaker 20 (02:23:32):
So I think that each each season needs to be
judged on its own merit, you know, think about I mean,
just look around the NFL and and tell me what
happens to teams.

Speaker 2 (02:23:43):
When they don't have a really good quarterback?

Speaker 20 (02:23:45):
Point to me the teams that are winning without a
really good quarterback, but that's not their problem.

Speaker 2 (02:23:50):
What's that? No?

Speaker 20 (02:23:51):
No, no, But I'm saying that's what I'm saying. You
have to judge each season individually. It has been their
problem since Ben really probably since Ben surgery. It has
been their problem, right for six seven years. And I mean,
you know, Kevin Stefanski has won two Coaches of the
Year awards. Yeah, and his record is what eight games

(02:24:12):
below five hundreds. He's had two winning seasons, He's won
Coach of the Year both the years. What's happened the
other three years in Cleveland disaster? And that's and that's
that's a coach of the year. And who doesn't have
a quarterback and can't win a game? And so when
when I when I think about Mike Tomlin and what
he's done, he has won games without quarterbacks. I think

(02:24:33):
most guys in the league can't do that. So what's
gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (02:24:37):
Now?

Speaker 20 (02:24:37):
Let's see, look right now, the sky is falling, the
defense is not good.

Speaker 2 (02:24:42):
And it's and you've lost two games in a row,
and you're running.

Speaker 1 (02:24:45):
Into the teeth of your schedule, prime time games in
front of national audiences, embarrassing, the shield, the organization.

Speaker 20 (02:24:54):
Well, let's see what happens over the next stretch of games,
and let's see if they can, if they can turn
this thing around. I mean, you know, listen, we don't
want to again. I think there's a lot to like.
But but after these last two games, it does have
you scratching your head, particularly with the defense.

Speaker 2 (02:25:09):
Well, you know, just a little emotional this morning. We
haven't slept. I mean two weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (02:25:13):
Before that Bengals game, we were talking about the Steelers
being the number one seed in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (02:25:18):
I know, yeah, now now you gotta find it. Now
you got to find it with the coach, all the players.

Speaker 20 (02:25:24):
You gotta regroup. I do like the way I will
see this. I do like the way the offense is trending.
I think there's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (02:25:30):
Things to like.

Speaker 20 (02:25:31):
You know, when you when you talk about you know,
and I always talk about that first third of the season,
just win games, right, and then where you start to
trend in the middle third of the season, and then
you get into December and you got to start jocking
for playoff position if you're one of those contenders. I
think the offense is doing that I think the offense
is playing well enough to win, and I think the
offense is trending in the right direction. They just got

(02:25:52):
to figure out the defense. We're twenty eighth in total defense,
by the way.

Speaker 1 (02:25:56):
Yeah, and the yardage I'm sure for the Steelers isn't
great either. But again, yardages and everything, and I'm talking
about for the offense, yardages and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:26:05):
They're scoring some points.

Speaker 20 (02:26:06):
They're scoring enough points to win, and they're definitely scoring
enough points to win with traditional Steelers defenses.

Speaker 2 (02:26:12):
They're just not getting a traditional Steelers defense.

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I want to take a little bit of a different
approach regarding where they are and how they can get
out of it. If they can get out, Okay, the
defense is not going seven games in. I'm gonna go
way out on a limb and say the defense is
not going to be historian.

Speaker 2 (02:27:37):
Now, this is what it is. They don't have the people.

Speaker 9 (02:27:41):
If they can figure out a way to solidify the
secondary a little bit ben but don't break. Get back
to getting a key turnover at Keysack when you need one.

Speaker 3 (02:27:50):
They look like Keystone cops out there.

Speaker 9 (02:27:52):
They have a chance to be just barely good enough. Yeah,
the offense has got to kick it in a gear
the rest of the way. If they're gonna win games,
they're gonna be scoring points. They are becoming the old
Bengals or maybe the current the current Bengals. You can
light it up, but you can't stop anybody. You just

(02:28:12):
hope you get the ball last, or you make one
more play than they do.

Speaker 2 (02:28:16):
That kind of thing.

Speaker 9 (02:28:16):
And you know, we talked a lot after the Bengals
game about DK Metcalf getting that ball ripped out of
his hands along the sidelines late in the second quarter. Yeah,
last night, a couple of plays. And this might sound
like I'm picking on Metcalf. Clearly there are many problems
and they are great, but they brought Dk Metcalf here

(02:28:38):
to be the stud, the Hammrager, the game changing wide receiver.
And last night they got a second and five at
the Packers twenty three first possession and they run, you know,
a little flanker screen to Metcalf. He gets called for
offensive pass interference, they lose ten yards end up kicking
a field goal instead of maybe scoring a touchdown. The

(02:29:00):
guy covering him was named Carrington Valentine, who is a
seventh round pick out of Kentucky in twenty twenty three,
six foot, one hundred and eighty nine pounds. Now, he
has started twenty one career games going. In the last night,
out of the thirty nineties played, he started the opener,
and then the Packers started a guy by naming Nate
Hobbs at corner. Up until last night, Hobbs was kneeling

(02:29:23):
a little bit of a knee injury. He was full
participant in practice, but they started Valentine. Valentine, Beach Metcalf, Wner,
you got to interfere offensively with a seventh round guy
out of Kentucky and your DK Metcalf.

Speaker 2 (02:29:38):
That cost the Steelers.

Speaker 9 (02:29:39):
Then let's fast forward to the second quarter, third and
three from the green bay, thirty two. Rogers reads single coverage,
takes the shot deep, going for the throat, going for
a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (02:29:52):
Metcalf has in his.

Speaker 9 (02:29:53):
Hands, and then it gets knocked out by I guess who,
Carrington Valentine. It sounds like a like a soap opera character.

Speaker 2 (02:30:03):
If you're gonna goin to this game but he was dead.
If you're gonna call this game, call the corner, but
not for me.

Speaker 9 (02:30:17):
If you're going win to this game and tell me
DK Metcalf is gonna get multiple shots at Carrington Valentine.

Speaker 2 (02:30:23):
I'm gonna like DK Metcalf's chances, oh for two and
those thank Someone don't know much about Carrington Valentine.

Speaker 1 (02:30:29):
Do you No, No, I don't know anything Valentine Stride.

Speaker 2 (02:30:34):
Maybe this guy's going to the whole thame.

Speaker 23 (02:30:36):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (02:30:37):
Maybe the Green Bay guy on the pregame show is
gonna rewrite my funny Valentine and sing his praises next.

Speaker 3 (02:30:42):
Week, Havington Valentine.

Speaker 9 (02:30:46):
No, let's go to the fourth quarter. All right, it's
starting to get a little wobblely. It's it's no, it
gets worse. Okay, it's twenty nine to nineteen, but there's
still ten fifty one left when the Steelers get the
ball back, plenty of time for two possessions and to
get things going in the other directtion. Jalen Warren runs
for five yards on second and seven, So now it's
third and two at the Pittsburgh thirty three. But wait,

(02:31:08):
there's more unnecessary roughness personal foul after the play on
number four, DK Metcalf. The down counts back up fifteen
yards now it's third.

Speaker 2 (02:31:19):
And seventeen possession torpedoed. That was a killer for sure.

Speaker 9 (02:31:24):
Can't be having this stuff from DK met now again.
Can't be having this stuff from a lot of guys.
But if we're looking at this through the lens of
the offense has to save them.

Speaker 2 (02:31:34):
You really can't have this stuff from this game. Players
have to be great.

Speaker 1 (02:31:37):
That's why they should have kept George Pickens to you know,
calm down, DK Metcalf, You know.

Speaker 9 (02:31:42):
Oh boy, I mean, I think the world of him
is a player. I was ecstatic when they acquired him,
and he's been nothing but great with us, and I
think he's a hard worker and all that. He's got
to play better, not the only one. A lot of
guys in that line. It's gonna take a while. It's
like going to get the uh real id if you're
gonna light up steelers who left to play better, it's

(02:32:03):
gonna take about four hours to get through the line.
But they're just you know, I get that. There are
questions about the schematics. I get that there are questions
about the coaching. It's like Patrick Queen said, win your reps, man,
do your job, make place.

Speaker 2 (02:32:18):
If you don't, you lose. I also think that they
got to play complimentary football, like just just how in
years past the defense knew that the offense was going
to struggle with Kenny Pickett and Trubisky and and all
the rest.

Speaker 4 (02:32:32):
You got to pick it up. You got to know
the defense is struggling right now, and you got to
not settle for threes. You got to put it in
the end zone early in games.

Speaker 2 (02:32:41):
Lean on. Teams may go up big.

Speaker 9 (02:32:44):
Maybe if Metcalf doesn't make that play moving forward, you
go forward on fourth and two.

Speaker 2 (02:32:48):
Why not? It's a first at home.

Speaker 1 (02:32:51):
Start going for You can't play this Mike Tomlin ball
of let's low scoring win by one score football. Yes,
it's got to be a sh shoot out and like
you said, hope you got the ball last.

Speaker 9 (02:33:02):
The other thing that's really alarming is the Cam Hayward
line quote there's not a lot of fight in us
right now, and Patrick Queen talking about being timid and
guys losing their confidence and all the things that he said,
like Buck up, there's waiting for ten games to go.
You're in first place right now, but keep going, awhay

(02:33:22):
you going, You're gonna end up.

Speaker 2 (02:33:23):
In last place.

Speaker 1 (02:33:24):
Is there a bet on FanDuel right now for whether
there'll be a player's only meeting this week?

Speaker 3 (02:33:29):
Because I'm gonna go ahead and slam that odds are terrible.

Speaker 2 (02:33:34):
Ping pong tables gone, gone gone.

Speaker 3 (02:33:38):
We're gonna donate them to the Ravens so they can
have them.

Speaker 2 (02:33:40):
Right all the way.

Speaker 9 (02:33:41):
They're going the scheduled meeting and nobody will show up.
They go to the wrong room.

Speaker 2 (02:33:45):
Yeah, yeah, this room.

Speaker 9 (02:33:50):
This player goes and I think they got a couple
of things going for him, and only a couple.

Speaker 2 (02:33:55):
They don't have to play Carrington Valentine again. There's that three.

Speaker 9 (02:34:00):
They are four and three in there, two games in
first place, and you know the NFL reshuffles every week,
and it's yes, just because it happened yesterday doesn't mean
it's gonna happen next Sunday.

Speaker 2 (02:34:11):
And they got Aaron Rodgers. Man, I can't believe they're
wasting this. I can't.

Speaker 9 (02:34:17):
I can't describe how impressed I am with this guy
and how he is able to put them in position
to compete offensively if they just follow the leader man.

Speaker 3 (02:34:30):
But they have to establish the run more efficiently.

Speaker 9 (02:34:34):
They did last night in the first half, and they've
been running better lately.

Speaker 2 (02:34:37):
I know, keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:34:39):
It opens up everything for Rogers and Jalen Warren wears
down defenses. That dude is hard to tackle. That's another
guy that never gives up the given f.

Speaker 2 (02:34:49):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:34:50):
Like he always plays hard. You can tell he wants
to win. Gamewell two is a real sad situation.

Speaker 2 (02:34:56):
With him fumbling last night. I'm sad, but I mean
real sad. Yeah, but do you doubt his So it's okay, No,
it's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:35:06):
But I'm saying, do you think he didn't have fight
in him?

Speaker 2 (02:35:09):
Oh no, yeah, yeah that happens. I do think he
has fight in him.

Speaker 1 (02:35:13):
Yeah, Like bad play by him. But like there's guys
on that defense. Do they want to keep playing football?

Speaker 2 (02:35:23):
You got?

Speaker 1 (02:35:24):
I mean, there's a couple of dudes who I think
are clearly riding out their.

Speaker 3 (02:35:27):
Careers in the secondary slay slazy well, you.

Speaker 2 (02:35:33):
Know, Mike, and you're talking about the offense too.

Speaker 20 (02:35:36):
In the second half, so you have the so these
are the I tak lemony snicket?

Speaker 2 (02:35:42):
What is it? Yeah, so you have the off sides.
It wasn't called off side, so you wind up punting
it away.

Speaker 20 (02:35:50):
You wind up with a field goal next possession, your
third possession, sack on the first play, right, so you're
trying to catch him with something. Well, second and twenty,
they just they can't get the job done.

Speaker 2 (02:36:01):
And then the drive.

Speaker 20 (02:36:03):
You know, Mike just talked about you have a third
and two, but now it's a third and seventeen because
of a penalty, and you know, they're just they just.

Speaker 2 (02:36:10):
Saw an effort player.

Speaker 18 (02:36:11):
Again.

Speaker 9 (02:36:13):
I'm gonna go mess with this guy because I feel
like messling with him, right because I'm bigger than the team.

Speaker 2 (02:36:18):
Right now.

Speaker 20 (02:36:18):
They got one bad call, but they got one bad call,
which you can't you know, you can't say, you're, oh, man,
we would have won if it wasn't for that non.

Speaker 2 (02:36:25):
Off side call. You can't say that.

Speaker 20 (02:36:27):
But they shot themselves in the foot a couple of
times too, they and they couldn't overcome it in the
second half offensively that first half.

Speaker 2 (02:36:33):
One more thing about Rogers.

Speaker 9 (02:36:34):
That drive they had at the end of the first
half where they scored the touchdown thinks. Second and nine
from the Green bay thirty six, he had Roman Wilson
won on one to the outside, didn't take it through
sideways to uh Calvin Austin.

Speaker 2 (02:36:50):
It was incomplete.

Speaker 9 (02:36:52):
Third and nine from the Green bay thirty six had
the same coverage, but this time it was Calvin Austin.

Speaker 2 (02:36:58):
Apparently he trusted Austin.

Speaker 9 (02:37:00):
That he's trust to Wilson and this was the underthrow
went dpi, dpi.

Speaker 2 (02:37:04):
But this is like Rogers sees this stuff.

Speaker 9 (02:37:07):
You know, he hadn't metcalf one oh one with my
funny Valentine in the end zone, Like he's gonna give
him a chance, but you know the defense can't give
up forty points a game. Then he's he's not gonna
matter quick. Frank will be back. He's not there in
his career anymore, but he can still be an effective,
winning quarterback if they just follow.

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We're doing a power hour, as we call it, a
sour power Hour, a Steeler Talk. It's Rob King voice
of the Steelers this morning as they are recovering from
last night's really embarrassing loss to the Colts. Frankly, that's
two prime time games in a row where they were embarrassed.
And Mike, it struck me that your dissertation you take
down or rather just illuminating people of the fact that

(02:38:51):
you know, there's plenty of finger pointing to go around.
I don't think anybody woke up this morning going f
and DK metcalf. But you know what, all of those
salient points, and I think you should think about like
creating weekly bedtime stories for people to purchase so they
can tell their kids. Because the way you presented that
was very matter of fact in a way. It is like,
and let me tell you another thing, and then he

(02:39:12):
did this, and then he did this, and it's a
perfect happy end.

Speaker 2 (02:39:18):
I mean, these kids are going to have issues.

Speaker 4 (02:39:20):
Yeah, maybe I can't sleep, nightmares, insomnia.

Speaker 2 (02:39:25):
Again.

Speaker 4 (02:39:25):
The giving up twenty one points in the fourth quarter
at home, Oh my god, that's non Steelers football.

Speaker 2 (02:39:35):
Uh No, it is definitely not. But I think they
the second half. Seven in the first half, twenty eight
in the second.

Speaker 1 (02:39:42):
There are so many teams that respond to injuries on
the defense and still get a performance.

Speaker 2 (02:39:50):
I mean the Bengals did it. Yeah.

Speaker 20 (02:39:52):
The injuries are no excuse, they're no excuse. Everybody gets hurt.
Everybody got everybody gets hurt. And Mike, we're talking about
two thirty five point and you missed two field goals.

Speaker 9 (02:40:02):
Yeah, because your coaching staff decided to go with the
old kicker who'd been hurt right instead of the new
guy who the week before made a franchise record sixty
one yard field goal.

Speaker 2 (02:40:14):
I no, we don't want him kicking.

Speaker 1 (02:40:16):
I think what you said earlier, though, Mike, is really
the tack that the Steelers have to take. It's that
the idea that you are the same team you thought
you were coming out in Week one needs to be abandoned.

Speaker 9 (02:40:27):
Yeah, we kicked that around a lot in the pregame
show yesterday. It's going into the year. I thought it
was going to be like most years. Okay, defense is
going to be pretty bag and the offense needs to
do just enough.

Speaker 2 (02:40:37):
I'm one hundred and eighty degrees from that.

Speaker 1 (02:40:39):
Oh yeah, well, it looked like that was going to
be the dynamic, and it's completely reversed.

Speaker 9 (02:40:47):
And I'm not normally one that panics quickly when evaluating
this stuff. I get what the NFL is and how
it reshuffles every week, and it's up and down. And
you know, Rogers was talking last week about refusing to
ride the roller coaster. But these two performances back to back,
I think are demanding of a response, a significant response.

(02:41:10):
Try something different because what they're doing is not working.

Speaker 1 (02:41:15):
The Steelers defense gave up thirty two points to the Jets,
thirty one points to the Seahawks, fourteen to the Patriots,
who fumbled it away five times.

Speaker 2 (02:41:24):
Well, they had it knocked out of their hands five times.

Speaker 3 (02:41:27):
I know, I know, you want to give the defense
puts okay, No.

Speaker 2 (02:41:30):
A couple of those last night would have gone a
long way to a different results, right, they're not getting that.

Speaker 4 (02:41:34):
I needed five turnovers to They barely escaped to England
with win.

Speaker 2 (02:41:37):
That's what they got to be on defense.

Speaker 9 (02:41:38):
They're going to give up yards, but they got to
just make those erase plays.

Speaker 1 (02:41:43):
They gave up twenty one to the Vikings, nine to
the Browns, thirty three to the Bengals, thirty five to
the Packers. And now you have the Colts next week
at home, the Chargers on the road, and the Chargers
are kind of turning things around after dealing with their
injuries in the backfield. And then you get Flacco in
the Bengals again and the Bears. The Bears are capable

(02:42:04):
of putting up some points. I think they had a
bad game yesterday on the road and just kind of
fell flat and didn't know how to handle Snoop Huntly.

Speaker 2 (02:42:11):
But Bill's Ravens Dolphins, you didn't know how to handle
Snoop Untley.

Speaker 1 (02:42:18):
No, they were I think they were getting ready for
a completely different offense.

Speaker 2 (02:42:21):
Maybe put NFL players up there against them.

Speaker 1 (02:42:23):
But watch, I'm going to make excuses for the Bears
because I loved them going into the weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:42:30):
You did, They're not going to stop the run this week.
I mean, this is the best rushing team in the league.
He's got more touchdowns than anybody in the league.

Speaker 1 (02:42:38):
Well, the point I'm getting to Bill is, I don't
think there's a whole lot of games that are coming
up here that I like the Steelers end the way
they're playing right now, And what is my confidence level
that they can turn things around defensively, offensively even with
all the problems that you enumerated earlier. Mike, I think
that they can turn that around. But Rob, I mean,
right now there this is an uphill battle for Mike

(02:42:58):
Tomlins to retain him. Is no losing season status. It
is hopefully they can turn it around quickly. I mean,
they've got to find a way.

Speaker 20 (02:43:05):
You know, we saw the Ravens do that last year,
they made some adjustments in the middle of the season
their defense was just awful, and then they made some
adjustments to Steelers. Right now, Look, man, I agree with
Mike about the offense. There's they got to be able
to play better complimentary football. You need far fewer three
and outs where you're just getting the defense back out
in the field again. But you got to find a
way to not give up thirty points again. And as

(02:43:28):
we mentioned, could have been forty in this one. This
was this You know, they've got to figure something out
between now and Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (02:43:36):
Not just Taylor and what he's doing on the ground.
The Colts have a renewed Daniel Jones. Did you see
any of that coming? No, No, you know they were
eight to nine last year. You know, maybe and they
beat the Steelers last year, as we remember Black, they
were eight and nine, and you know, he's our newman,

(02:43:56):
right so we maybe should have seen that there was
some capability there.

Speaker 20 (02:44:01):
But I didn't even think there was capability there. But
it just goes to show you how a quarterback can
lift everything up. Daniel Jones has been phenomenal for them
and has lifted everything up. And you know, you keep thinking, well,
they're not that good, and now I think everyone thinks, yeah,
they are that good.

Speaker 2 (02:44:17):
So it'll be another big test.

Speaker 4 (02:44:19):
You got to be killing yourself if you're the Vikings.
You had Donald and Danny Dimes last season. Well with
all of the injuries that they're suffering through right.

Speaker 3 (02:44:27):
Now, and Aaron Rodgers wanted to play there.

Speaker 1 (02:44:29):
Right, Well, they're going through the Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (02:44:35):
By the way, they're going to go through the growing paint.

Speaker 20 (02:44:38):
JJ McCarthy, Right, that's that's what It's going to be,
a growing pain season for him.

Speaker 2 (02:44:42):
You know.

Speaker 20 (02:44:42):
But I didn't see it coming again because you have
a lot of faith in that coach, right.

Speaker 2 (02:44:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:44:47):
But they got weapons, Yeah, I got a lot of receivers.

Speaker 2 (02:44:51):
Tyler Warren was a phenomenal drug.

Speaker 4 (02:44:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they got weapons. I just
meant how good Danny Dimes is doing this year.

Speaker 2 (02:44:58):
Yeah, it's good environment for it's Indiana Jones now Indian
Extra Stadium.

Speaker 1 (02:45:06):
They're going to have a bulldozer competition on Saturday on
the field, so yeah, and then they're gonna do a
BMX Y.

Speaker 9 (02:45:14):
There's a Batman remake that they're gonna Yes, yeah, they're
gonna refilled.

Speaker 2 (02:45:17):
The Derby and then stomp the Broadway show. That. Yeah.
Other than that, though, should be pretty.

Speaker 3 (02:45:27):
Good walking around on stilts on the field.

Speaker 2 (02:45:33):
They get a little picked out Saturday. Hey, look well
it was brand new then, that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:45:39):
They got the fresh paint, they got the fresh tracks.

Speaker 9 (02:45:43):
Their quarterback through for four hundred yards and he missed
a couple.

Speaker 2 (02:45:49):
They weren't exactly playing.

Speaker 9 (02:45:50):
Uh, they weren't playing a high school team.

Speaker 2 (02:45:55):
They got little something going on.

Speaker 1 (02:45:56):
I know, how did you not see it? Early on?
They were gone to that kid to start the year. Yeah,
they might be own defeated.

Speaker 2 (02:46:06):
Well, they still have possibilities on the table. How about
Kelly getting gassed? How about it? I'm laughing.

Speaker 3 (02:46:14):
He's taking fifty six million home.

Speaker 2 (02:46:17):
Haha. Did he lose the southern accent? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:46:21):
I think he's gonna stop talking with a drawl. He
probably's not, probably not gonna order gumbo when he gets home.

Speaker 9 (02:46:27):
Although those those buyouts for the coaches, did you ever
hear ed or Jan's take on that?

Speaker 2 (02:46:31):
Oh yeah, well they'll pay me fifty million to leave.
I got two questions, when do you want me to go?
And what dorse should I use?

Speaker 1 (02:46:40):
Thanks to Rob King, he ran to do another show
thanks to Jerry Do you lect him?

Speaker 2 (02:46:43):
Ben? Tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (02:46:44):
On the show, Charlie Batch will be joining us Jean
stereotword boy, lots the talk about tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:46:50):
God, did you see the Philly Giants thing? I heard
about it, I have not seen it. They ran a
tush push.

Speaker 9 (02:46:57):
Oh yeah, it hurts extended the ball, which if you
do that on the goal line and breaks the plane
that's touched over.

Speaker 2 (02:47:04):
If you're not going to the end zone, the play
is not over. They knocked it out of his hand
and recovered it, recovered it and.

Speaker 9 (02:47:11):
Then they said, nah, it's still Phillies ball and uh
Dabile challenged it. They said, no, you can't challenge that,
so they challenged the gain. He said, I'm challenging for progress.
Like it just seems so fissed off.

Speaker 2 (02:47:26):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (02:47:27):
Keep throwing challenging the challenge. I mean, what happens if
you're challenging, you're out of challenges. Like the Chris Weaver thing,
the Michigan everybody goes.

Speaker 9 (02:47:36):
Home happy Saturday night when they kicked our asses all over.

Speaker 1 (02:47:42):
I really look forward to the Steelers looking good in
front of the country. You know, we really showed our
arse the last two weeks on the national stage.

Speaker 9 (02:47:50):
And they got that to look forward and really bothers.
What's the next national game. It's just a day game
coming up, he said, it's one o'clock.

Speaker 3 (02:47:57):
Yeah, it's one o'clock here, and I think one o'clock
or no.

Speaker 2 (02:48:01):
It's.

Speaker 1 (02:48:03):
It's a primetime game against the Chargers. That's a Sunday
night game.

Speaker 2 (02:48:10):
They can win that. They can win that game, can
win any game.

Speaker 1 (02:48:14):
Yeah, if a lot of their players get hurt, that
would help, namely Justin Herbert.

Speaker 3 (02:48:23):
Although now he's with that chicken. He's so happy.

Speaker 2 (02:48:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:48:25):
Maybe he's a beer Yeah, maybe he's drunk on beer
and he'll be you know, the opposite of whatever Taylor
Swift is beers.

Speaker 3 (02:48:37):
Michelle's up next to the Electric lunch at noon.

Speaker 1 (02:48:39):
The other thing, they make you stay up all night
and now nobody gets to sleep in the city of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (02:48:44):
On They make it. They make you want to do it.
I don't want to stay.

Speaker 1 (02:48:53):
I don't want to sit there and watch Mike Tomlin's
entire press conference for twenty two minutes after the game
and just get more and more upset.

Speaker 9 (02:48:59):
It's cortissops through my veins. Hollo, just take you get
to sleep after one of those fight.

Speaker 4 (02:49:04):
Oh wow, you guys slept, Yeah, because it pisses you
off so much that you gotta like walk it off.

Speaker 9 (02:49:09):
But even when they win, like I can't just be
done working a game and full asleep, like it's just
now you're buzzing.

Speaker 2 (02:49:16):
Yeah, like Bill said, you gotta work it off. You
go for a walk.

Speaker 4 (02:49:21):
I used to put on the post game and just
walk around the neighborhood. Now it's getting a little cold
for that.

Speaker 1 (02:49:26):
But see that would fire me up too much. They
get reinvested all over again.

Speaker 9 (02:49:32):
I heard the last two calls. One guy swore, the
other one was snoring. Never sage, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 10 (02:49:38):
I'm finished.

Speaker 2 (02:49:39):
You stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't touch your face. I got
him touch Pittsburgh. O day Berby. But now you gotta
call me Ronald. Would you not eat my pants? Ronald? Oh?
Why gogglehead.

Speaker 11 (02:49:57):
It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on d brought
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Speaker 10 (02:50:09):
Here's Tom Opperman.

Speaker 19 (02:50:10):
The Steelers felt a four and three on the season
with a thirty five to twenty five defeet at the
hands of the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night football.
The Steelers held the lead at halftimes sixteen to seven,
but a twenty eight point second half explosion by the
Packers offense helped rally the Packers back to get the victory.
Screwheading the strong offensive performance was quarterback Jordan Love and
tight end Tucker Kraft. Love, who at one point in
the game strung together twenty straight pass completions, finished twenty

(02:50:33):
nine to thirty seven for three hundred and sixty yards
and three passing touchdowns. Craft was certainly his favorite target
on the night. He was targeted nine times by Love,
converting seven into catches for one hundred and forty three
yards and getting into the end zone twice. The Steelers
struggled throughout the game to find an answer to Craft
in the Green Bay passing attack, and their defense has
now gone three straight games without forcing a turnover. On

(02:50:54):
top of that, Sunday Night was the fourth instance of
the season that the team surrendered thirty plus points in
a game. Aaron Rodgers turned into decent performance in his
first meeting against his former team, throwing for two hundred
and nineteen yards and two touchdowns, but it ultimately proved
to be not enough to pull out the victory. Things
won't get any easier for the Steelers next week, as
the Indianapolis Colts bring their league best seven to one
record into town.

Speaker 3 (02:51:15):
I'm Tom Opferman with the Steelers Report.

Speaker 2 (02:51:18):
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Speaker 1 (02:51:19):
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