October 29, 2025 • 45 mins
Mark Madden has no sympathy for the struggling Steelers as he recalls Mike Tomlin and others touting themselves as having a potential historically great defense.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I'd been with it. It sort of came out
of the blue. I got I was it was Friday
of Halloween. I got an email from the general manager
at eleven o'clock and said meeting at twelve o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And I was like, that's not good. I was like,
there's never there's.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Never an urgent, vague meeting that takes place in an hour.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
So I was sort of preparing myself. So anyway, guy
goes on. He proceeds to let me know that they're
you know, moving a different direction or anything like that,
and it was shocking. So I was already like a
little like no fore warning or anything like that. So
I was a little mad about the whole thing. And
on the zoom call, he it's it's head up only
and I see he's got these suspenders on, and it
(00:41):
comes to my realization that he has just fired me.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:22):
So in our algorithm segment, I played let's ram.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It from the nineteen eighty six rams and we were
talking about how there was this whole, like, you know,
a bunch of Super Bowl Shuffle inspired music videos that
came out in the NFL in the ensuing year, and
the Steelers were planning on one before the AFC Championship
game against the Chargers. Bill Yeah, and we were trying
(01:45):
to figure out who organized that, and Tim Benz came
to the rescue.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Eric Green and Chad Brown talked about it in a
trip Live article that that Benzi sent us that I'm
gonna definitely tweet out because this is hilarious.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Apparently they felt so bad about it. Like the following year,
John L. Williams said the guys realized the opportunity in
front of them. They're not gonna put themselves in position
to repeat last year. We can't do things unrelated to football. Yeah,
Chad Brown said.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Took your eye off the ball?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Were people not looking at film and practicing their dance moves?
He's like, it wasn't that bad, but it was just
sort of emblematic of.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Lack of focus.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So during the break, I looked up saying, remember there
was a bunch of them, and Abby and I have
been cueuing these songs, Bill, these are so bad. This
is from nineteen eighty six the Los Angeles Raiders. Howie Long,
Marcus Allen, Matt Millen, Todd Christiansen is in the gallery here.
And the funny thing about all of these videos they
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all have the same sort of like choreography, which there's
always a room where they're all like just doing the
side to side.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Dance, Yeah, singing in unison.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And this was from the NFL on NBC A young
Bob Costas in nineteen eighty six introducing this.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
So now watch out Chicago Bears, and for that matter,
watch out Springsteen, Dire Straits and Madonna. Here come the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
They all wrapped together.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Since oh that.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
They have eye black on underneath for the video.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Ar lord, how we.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Long glory every day?
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Running the mom.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
With a flat top? Yeah, this long.
Speaker 9 (04:06):
Size short on quarterback sax and I love the sit
off running.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Back, oh man so bad.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
They're all doing it like the Fat Boys or you know,
Sugarhill Gang.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I love the Fat Boys so much. Okay. Then there
was the forty nine ers. Uh this is forty nine
ers rap and you'll hear Ronnie Lott by the way.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I mean this is yeah the eighties. I mean they
were good enough to make these songs.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I have fast forwarded past the How long was the intro?
It was like well over a minute instrumental, Like wow, it.
Speaker 10 (04:48):
Was like a keyboard, but it was a saxophone, but
it was a keyboard.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You couldn't see the video Abby.
Speaker 10 (04:54):
That that I but I could, you know what I mean, Like,
I didn't see it, but it was in my mind.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
They were there's like this horn intro and here I
gotta play a little of it for you. It's so
cheesy eighties synth, but it's not a horn. It's the
synthesizer playing horns. But they film the players pretending to
play the brass, which is.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Dude, this song that right there they have.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
The It sounds like everything in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It sounds like something we would do as a like parody,
except Eric Dickerson's gonna roll up to the mic here
and I mean, these players are getting down and they.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Are like the eighties porn music.
Speaker 11 (05:40):
Okay, okay, here's the deal. We rap them like tim
Just me, Roger Craig and a couple of prads. You know,
we played a game where you pass if the run
some most of the ball. We ought to have bus
I'll get the ball every now and then they call
me Roger Dodger. I'm busting to the dude there. I'm
on a team that's never been fine. The San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He ripped his shirt off when he said that. Always Hey,
don't you jucker man.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I'm about to get a vissed.
Speaker 9 (06:13):
I stick for wide receiver and make his mama dozy,
don't touch me, don't try to run.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I put a run and put you out of the game.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Sons, it's your decision. I put your vision.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I put your whole family out of commission. I got
to know.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It's mem real nice, but you.
Speaker 10 (06:28):
Got to say hi to my homeboy.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
Jerry Rice.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
My name is Jerry Ray. Please don't try to give
me because you fain't the price. I mean so fast,
I'll give you a bove. You be thinking that your
next minute, don't you know? Don you know, like me
get to the knee. Hey, hey, wait a minute, man,
what about me? Dunk the boots? And I love pay day.
I turned the loss and two a ten yard.
Speaker 11 (06:50):
Game on my bellet And you could do what you
want because I ain't going down.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Jack's fisteam means too much to me.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Add to all up the man. See in the scene,
I mean, wow, insane, wow, wow.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Now lest you think they're all rap, you know, some
teams thought like, yo, maybe we should make it a
little more like I don't know, R and B or
like maybe a little more just kind of soulful or something.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And I don't know what the Seahawks were thinking in
nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But they do this video where they're all looking very
tired in the locker room and they're all they're all yawning,
and they're like slowly lifting weights like they're just exhausted.
And I don't know who number fifty five is their linebacker.
He comes through and gives the guys a pep talk
and then the music starts and Bill, tell me if
you think this was a good idea in terms of
choice or genre.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
I've been working out and get shown the Blue Waves
on the road.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We've got the on the run.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
And the Waves on a road.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't even know how good they were. I mean,
it's like Steve Largent, I think Dave Craig was their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
I was gonna say, yeah, I remember them coking through
and getting any Super Bowls in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We were as well as we were teams. It's just
so Lackey Sacks. That's kind of where it is.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And then the New England Patriots commission these people to
do a song, I guess to counter the Super Bowl Shuffle,
because they played them in the Super Bowl that year
and the whole town rallied around this song. So this
was not really the team so much as this was there.
Here we go and it was called New England the Patriots,
and we.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Kill they come on, dude, it's just so special.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And then it didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The craze didn't really dine out for a couple of years,
and then in nineteen ninety the Dolphins put can't touch
us out?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Get that on for you. Blu forty two, Blu forty two.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, hut hot hot. I want to my mmy, oh
(09:58):
my lord, thank you blessing me with all those dogs.
And that's good.
Speaker 12 (10:03):
Let me know you're down with the super Bowl team
and a super hometown were as such, this is the team,
can't I mean?
Speaker 8 (10:11):
Was that so?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Wait? Was that the Marinos first year?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, no, he'd already been there for a while.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Okay, because they never got back, I thought.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I don't think so. I mean, I think that's just
pure cocaine decisions, right, that is.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Oh, I think I like the forty nine Ers wrap
the most out of all of them, the New England
or the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
One I don't understand at all.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It doesn't make any sense. Is too fast.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's just really bad. And thank god the Steelers never
put one out. I mean, just the notion that they
were thinking about it was bad enough.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Eric Green, I do. I've always wondered what it would
have been like to hear Barry Foster and some of
those guys wrap. Though I don't know Greg Lloyd, I mean,
avoid Lloyd.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I bet Greg Lloyd could rap.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I think even if you couldn't, I would say you're
the best.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You're so good, right, you're the best. Please don't murder
the best that ever did it. Abby got an update
for you. What's going on?
Speaker 10 (11:07):
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(11:27):
Association says up to two hundred and fifty billion pennies
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So here's what to expect when paying cash without pennies.
Some stores arounding the total to benefit the customer, and
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The exchange requires a minimum of fifty cents in pennies
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resulting in a one dollar gift card, and allows a
maximum of one dollars in pennies resulting in a two
hundred dollars gift card.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Okay, pennies.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I used to have a penny jar.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I used to have a penny jar. Yeah, well, just
to change jar and then there's pennies in it.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But I don't have money on me anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Like even when I was going to I told you
I went to that the Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese, you know,
football championship on Saturday, And I was driving there, thinking,
am I gonna have to pay to get into this thing?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Like I don't need cash?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It was free, thankfully.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Oh really?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, I mean it's like seventh and eighth graders playing football.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
But that doesn't matter. I mean, I'm I'm paying to
go see, you know, volleyball games in middle school. I'm
going I'm paying to see like lacrosse games.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Or yeah, no, thankful, Maybe I just knuck in. I'm
I'm not sure, but I never didn't. I never have
cash anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Well, a lot of those.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Places, even the high school games now like they have
like a little square code you could.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
You know, go buy them online.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
University of Southern California something that pennies isn't it didn't
somebody say at some point, like melting down pennies was
going to be more worth more than pennies.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh Like there was this.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Mean going, no, what are pennies made out of copper?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But there was somebody who said they cashed in like
two hundred thousand dollars worth of They wanted it all
in nickels because whatever, I don't know, nickel is in nickels.
I'm not sure what metal is in there, but it
was going to be worth more than the actual nickel soon,
and so they wanted to like have it all and
then sell it for the metal, which didn't make any
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sense to me, No pun intended.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I know that I used to like my nickname was
Billy Nichols at one point in high school because I
worked at Applebee's in Edgewood Town Center, and the bartender
used to tip me out in all change. Used to
give me a three pound envelope. It just had a
million Nichols in it, and I would just put it
in my pocket. So every time I got up off
the couch, it would just be change everywhere, and they'd
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be like, damn, Billy Nichols, go to the Coinstar, what
the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Was there Coinstar? I was going to ask you was
that around that?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I think it might have just come out, yeah, in
the late nineties.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
Somehow.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
The first few times you do Coinstar, you're like, you
feel like you're making out. You know, You're like, yeah,
I just totally bimboozled these guys walking here with me.
Speaker 10 (14:41):
I'm a thousand percent doing this this Saturday.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Yeah you have.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Sense, Yeah I do, because.
Speaker 10 (14:48):
I do the laundry and so every time I go through,
I empty out everybody's pockets and I put them in
this mason jar that's right next to the laundry, and.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I have a stash.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
How much do you think you have media?
Speaker 8 (15:03):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
There's a lot.
Speaker 10 (15:05):
And I think this would be a good project for
Edie as well, who has no concept of money at all?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Do you have more coins next to the laundry or
guitar picks, ear plugs, ear plugs and guitar ear plugs,
guitar picks. There's a lot of like nails and screwdriver
like like little.
Speaker 10 (15:24):
Screws and.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, candy wrappers.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Any rappers, Yeah, all things like that.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
The ear plugs, earplugs, and guitar picks always yep. If
you ever need a ear pluge your guitar picks, they're
always next to the washer and dryer, yep.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Ould stack of them, you need them, I got them.
Speaker 10 (15:43):
A University of Southern California study reveals HBO's Emmy winning
the Pit motivates viewers toward organ donation and end of
life preparations. Research examining two multi episode storylines shows twenty
six point nine percent of surveyed audiences sought organ donation information,
while seventeen point two percent shared donation details with others.
(16:06):
The organ donation narrative particularly resonated with black viewers, a
demographic overrepresented a transplant waiting lists, yet under represented on
as donors. Concerning end of life planning, thirty eight percent
of viewers pursued additional information after watching episodes of The Pit.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Hey, that's pretty cool. No, it's good that it had
that collateral effect.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
It's a good show.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I love The Pit. I went I watched it a
second time, like as like I throw it on while
I was like, you know, Riude my bike or something
when I was doing stationary stuff. And it is hilarious
to me how many like wedged in Pittsburgh references they
throw in there. But uh, I'm I know it was
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supposed to be er, a continuation of ER. I'm not
sure what is so compelling about that show, Like, it's
not the Pittsburgh that keeps me watching it like that.
Those were fun and little storylines like the guy's dog's
name is Crosby. Yeah, and they're like Sidney here, David.
He's like David, And I'm like, nobody would admit that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
No, No, the City, Yeah, I mean I think no.
Noah Wiley.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Wiley is definitely a star, a television star. He makes
it really fun to watch how good he is, and
just that there's constant action they go for that.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I mean, it's non stop.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
It feels like live you know, basically people watching a
hospital function.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, and it is using the template that twenty four
had on Fox, the Keifer Sutherland's show right where it's
like every episode is an hour of that day.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, it's just a continuation.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
They're good feeding the rewards system though that they're also
going back to a storyline. So if you were enjoying
a certain storyline, they like reward you like a little
lab rat that they're coming back to it because of that.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
The only thing that I have a hard time with
is the graphic nature of the show, some of the
cuts and incisions and those that like that's it's.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
A lot, a lot of a lot of peen, a
lot of pain for an HBO show.
Speaker 13 (18:14):
It's normal.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
There's no worse pain than hospital hospital peen, the worst
kind of pain.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
I worked in a hospital for a rotation in psych
saw a lot of pain, and I was in the
geriatric unit.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
You're like, and I was a receptionist, old pain, Like,
there's for some reason they like their knees up a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Damn.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
That's the first person they saw every morning, knees up Like, huh,
Leonard put it away.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Oh that looks like touchdown, Jesus, look what I did.
Good morning, No, good morning, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
That was the worst part about what my dad was sick.
Was like in medic a delimited assisted living facility. Nobody
there's just people walking around. They don't know what's going on,
you know. He was like in the demential wards, so
that it was really like that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's what I work. Yeah, there's just people are like
walking around with no pants. Yeah, so I did. I
just wanted to make everyone feel comfortable. That's what I
did too, And that's why they kicked.
Speaker 10 (19:15):
Me off that rotation and they're like, you can't keep
doing that trying to assimilate.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I mean like I just thought that's what we were not.
So I'm giving away to clouds rain this afternoon. It's
high fifty five this.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
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have your sports coming up here just a little bit.
The UH Steelers making some moves trying to fill in
for the Deshaun Elliott injury by acquiring the Patriots safety
(19:51):
Kyle Dogger anymore?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Are we going to try to complete the set? How
many safeties did they have left?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't know, Like the Sultan pepper shaker, Well it's
a pepper. We yeah, that is we got peppers, right, peppers. Also,
the Penguins get a point but lose to the Flyers
and the Blue Jays evening up in the World Series Sports.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Coming up next, Mark Madden at a forty five here.
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Speaker 13 (20:36):
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Bridgeville Appliants. The Steelers collapse at accuracy against the Packers
included a lack of fight, Mike Tomlins confirmed yesterday, but
the Steelers head coach also clarified what he specifically perceived
to be lacking against Green Bay.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
No, I don't necessarily say a lack of fight in
terms of effort. I'm talking about fight in terms of
you know, you don't get credit for trying hard. We're
not in the try hard business. Our fight is about
production and producing, and we certainly didn't produce enough plays
over the last thirty minutes of the game, particularly in
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any of the phases, to secure victory.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
They did not, and victory was not secured.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Didn't it sound like he explained away the defense's problems
on Sunday Night by reducing it to two big splash
plays on third down, and if you take those away,
he's almost fine with the defensive effort.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Now.
Speaker 13 (21:37):
I know some people interpret it that way. I did
not get that impression at all. We'll play that next
hour if you like. I think what the one hundred
yards and two third down plays he talked about that stuff,
specifically the fifty nine yard being the catalyst for the oh,
woe is us kind of malaise.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That they I mean that very easily could have been
picked off right there, and then you have the ball
on the twenty eight.
Speaker 13 (21:59):
Or whatever it would have been, and they gets what
he saw. If those are two plays they absolutely should
have made. The fact that they're not is the problem.
And I think that that well, I think he's acknowledging
that I don't think he's saying to take those two
plays away and we're good.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I didn't get that at all.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Now, I didn't take that from it either, But and
I think that that play in particular was compounded by
the fact that Elliott got.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The gruesome injury to popular the glue.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 13 (22:28):
But you know nobody stepped up thereafter in any phase,
and that of course included the defense. So you can
add that to the list of deficiencies that has conspired
so far, at least to prevent this defense from becoming
as historic as initially advertised.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
We make no excuses about how or why we fall short.
Our job is to perform and perform at a high level,
and we haven't done that, and so I'm excited about
getting back to it. Seven games or whatever doesn't make
a season. We certainly got more in front of us
and more opportunities to write our story, whether it's individuals,
whether it's a component of our team, or whether it's
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our team in general.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I think that's our general mindset.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I know that we're talking about Okay, they're turning themselves
into the Bengals now where they're acknowledging their defensive shortcomings.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Saying they're doing that.
Speaker 13 (23:21):
I'm just saying that's my theory for whatever path there
is to avoid catastrophe, that is it.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I still don't think that you want to look at
the offense as something that goes out there and tries
to score quick.
Speaker 13 (23:36):
They still need to base it off of the running game.
Absolutely got to possess it. It's got to be pretty specific.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Like take your time, but make sure you finish the
drive and don't settle for bos like get bas off
everybody's fantasy team.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 13 (23:51):
They're tied for eleventh in points per game right now,
twenty five per game, which by Steeler standards of.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Recent advantage fast improvement.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's a revelation. They got to they got to get
that up, and they got to possess the ball while
they do it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think, oh definitely.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
And they need timely drives too, like the context matters
coming out in the second half and going three and
out right off the jump or not good enough.
Speaker 13 (24:18):
Or as we've seen the last two weeks, more points
in the first half when you have the other team
on the run.
Speaker 15 (24:23):
Yep, settle in for three field goals. Yeahs, game game
a lot different. They only got ten points in the
first half against the Bengals, and they left points on
the field, and its a lot of points on that
and in this game it was three field goals and
only one touchdown. Maybe maybe if it's more than sixteen
to seven, maybe if it's twenty three, maybe it's a difficult.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean I always look at that, like, you know,
short field goals are one thing. When you're he's hitting bombs,
then you're not really moving the ball all that much.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Well, it depends where he started. What's the I wonder
what that Yeah, when you kick a.
Speaker 13 (24:59):
Field goal, because you dropped the thirty three yard touchdown
pass in the end zone, that was pretty close to
being a touchdown, even though it's a long field goal.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That made Rogers dropped the f and cs or you
didn't see that no, oh yeah, you get good lip
reading on that one. He was passed when DK dropped
that touchdown, Oh yeah, or had it broken up or
however you want to Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
No, it was a great play. And also maybe you
should have caught it. Yeah, position his body better.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
If you're going to be a highly paid, highly touted,
this is our guy type of guy, then that's a play.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Got K played it? Like it was an easy catch
and not a combat catch, right, And I think.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
That, you know, the coaches is upset because he sees
these drives that are promising stall through penalties or just
drop balls, or you know, just mental.
Speaker 13 (25:49):
Errors like offensive pass interference. Yeah, like that, Kyle Dugat
reportedly is on the way. Here's an interesting little nugget
related to that. Steele's played the Patriots in Week three
at jo Lette Stadium. They had just acquired Drabrill Peppers
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not long before that. Elliott Deshaun Elliott was out at
the time. Of course he's out again. Peppers had two tackles,
four assists, six combined tackles and a fumble recovery in
forty three snaps fifty eight percent of the defensive snaps.
Kyle Dugger was playing for New England at the time.
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He had one tackle, one assist, two combined tackles eighteen
defensive snaps thirty three percent. He was basically in that game.
He was basically a first and second down guy that
was kind of looking out for tight ends. Hey, Packers
tight end just said six hundred and thirty eight receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You know, maybe they need.
Speaker 13 (26:49):
Somebody to cover a tight end, but I don't think
Kyle Duger. It's pretty good to me. Him and Peppers
are kind of the same guy. I know dougas played
a little free safety in his career. You still got
a Chuck Clark wan Thornhill problem in the back end.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Would you.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Put Ramsey at safety? Prehm with I don't think neither
of those guys can cover, so I guess you can't.
Like if the knock on Peppers and Dougger is that
they're not great in coverage. Yeah, I mean you're you're
If there are a couple of thumpers, that's one thing, but.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
You're gonna need those in this game too.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Theoretically, you could put Ramsey at safety.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
And then Peppers or Dugger at the other safety right,
and then Porter and Eccles or Sleigh, which.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'd be going slay Sligh has announced, and then who's
the nickel? Is Arthur Marlette still on the roster playing
for somebody else?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Or no?
Speaker 13 (27:53):
No, he's somebody Yes, yeah, because everybody in the secondary
is hurt for de try, but somehow they continue to win.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Should we get Beanie a call?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
He's here, He's here. So the practice squad I didn't
even know that call him up.
Speaker 13 (28:11):
Maybe they should be looking under every stone. As the
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And new home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one A two
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Speaker 2 (31:29):
He got a misconduct at the end of overtime last night.
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Speaker 4 (31:36):
But we're a rabbit. You can ram it, Martin.
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
Double on Mark Man' joing this right now? Mark?
Speaker 8 (32:04):
How are you hello again? Everybody?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
We were just we were going down the list of
NFL teams rap videos from the eighties after the Super
Bowl shovel and we were playing as they lead into you,
let's ramm it from the nineteen eighty six rams ram It.
Speaker 14 (32:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Would you like to hear a little bit.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
I would not know. I said no, I said no.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yes, he did say no very clearly. Oh I thought
it was yes. Your phone broke up.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
I remember when the Steelers had that rap video planned.
I don't think they did it, but they had a plan.
They were talking about the media before they lost in
that gratuitous upset to the San Diego Chargers and Stan
Humphries in the nineteen ninety four AFC Championship game. So
so rap is crap as far as these Steelers that are.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Eric Green was the one that tried to organize that.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And the funny thing about that was that late in
the game was way past when the NFL teams were
even doing that anymore.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Well, another example of the Steelers being gratuitously behind the times.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
And I think you know now it's just players have
their own rap albums. Like Ab had his own rap album,
Le'Veon Bell had his own rap album.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Both were awful. Do you know what's funny though?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
When I hear we were listening to all of those raps,
Mark they have the the meter of the eighties rat
like Bill said the Fat Boys, like everyone is bump
bump bump, bu blah blah, blah blah blah uh bu
bu bah right, And when I hear that, I feel
like if Russell Wilson put out a rap song today,
that's exactly what it would sound like.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Remember when like Whoop there it is was the national anthem?
Pretty much like to show you how out of touch
sports editing best star newspapers. I remember Ed Bouchett wrote
a story about Neil o'donnald, the Steelers quarterback at the time,
who had had a really hot start to the season
and was at the top of all the passer ratings.
(33:56):
So Ed's lead was when you look at the NFL
quarterbacking statistics, you're shocked. Womp, there it is Neil O'Donnell
at the top of everything, and the.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Desk changed it to role there he is, Hey, guys,
we couldn't get much better.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Uh damn.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I've never seen like like the version of like a
white person trying to dance in text.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
Yes, if you ever want to find the most out
of touch people in the world for pop culture, go
to an editing desk with a newspaper for sports.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And Mark, I'm sure you feel the same way I do.
Speaker 13 (34:37):
Is we've both done newspapers and then transition to radio.
The best thing about radio is they can't edit what
comes out of your mouth.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
If you're trying to say death to all those who
edit sports coffee, I'm with you, all right.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
That seems a little severe heart, a little oh no no.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Let me tell you my story there, and I'm tepted
to name the guy. I did a story for the
because that one time, a page three, like those huge
stories analyzing the birth and development of the trap in hockey,
because the Devils were using it to slow to slow,
you know, the game down gratuitously and making it boring.
And my old premise was I talked to Scotty Bowman,
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who was then with the Red Wings and when he
was with the Canadians in the seventies, who were the
most time powered offensive team ever. Arguably, he used to
trap every shift, but he used it to attack, like
as soon as the puck turned over, four guys went
the other way. So there were different ways to trap.
And Scotty Bowman sent me a diagram of his trap,
so the graphics department used that diagram to, you know,
(35:39):
to make one for the paper, a big feature diagram
in the middle of this story and the sports editors
and Time decided he didn't understand it, so he changed it.
And when it got into paper, there were six skaters
on the trapping team and Craig Patrick said to me, no,
wonder that works. You can use the guy like and
I would what to my boss? I said, Okay, so
(36:01):
you're smarter than Scottie Bowman when it comes to diagramming
the trap, which he frigging invented.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, you know, sometimes you just gotta ram it, all right,
So mark the Steelers facing the Colts this weekend. This
is not going to be an easy one. This Colts
offense high powered to the defense is in free fall.
But you know we've got the dugger to go with
peppers now from the Patriots. As Bill said earlier, we
(36:30):
got the complete set now defensively salt peppers. I think
that what frustrated people the most about Mike Tomlin's press
conference yesterday was that he was not directly acknowledging the issues.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And I don't think it's because he doesn't know them.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I think because that's how bad things are defensively, that
he kind of has to mask how how unproductive they
are compared to expectation from coach Tomlin when he declared
they might be historic this year.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
What what got me Mattis was when he led off
the presser yesterday, just like he did after the game,
by blaming the offense for not getting enough touchdowns, which
is traceable to him too, although not as directly, I suppose,
as with the defense. But yeah, I mean, nobody's demanded
accountability for this guy since day one? Why would they
do it now? He can say what he wants and
(37:21):
half of the people out there, more than half, really
swallow it. Although I think that fraction is changing, the
defense should be absolutely ashamed of itself, just ashamed of itself. TJ.
Watt no playoff wins, Cam Heyward won playoff win. All
they ever want is more money. All they ever cared
about in the first place was money. They're not competitors,
they're not winners. They're not mean. Joe Green, like I
wanted to call him last week, and I might have
(37:43):
said on the show, but I'll repeat myself gladly. You know,
all I know about me and Joe Green is that
he won for super Bowls. I don't know how many
all pros he got. I don't know about his defensive
Player of the Years. And you know what, that's all
I need to know, and all means Joe wanted me
to know. These guys are about to bag and about everything.
But and I know that because they don't win.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
And to your point, this weekend, that Super Bowl XL
team is going to be there. I don't know anybody
on that defense's contract extension situation over the course of
their career.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I just know those guys won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (38:15):
Yeah, exactly right. And these guys, they put themselves in
a position with all the angling for money and all
the greed and all the big mop gym teacher meaththead
bs that they promulgate all the time when they had
to win, and they don't. Not only not winning Bill,
but they stink. That defense stink. That defense is among
the worst Steeler defenses in history. I don't know if
(38:35):
you've heard the James Harrison sondbite. Oh yeah, he was
practically screaming and crying and threatening at the same time.
It's just these guys, like I said, should be ashamed
of themselves if they're not unembarrassed for them. But I'm
also embarrassed for the Steeler fans who sold all their
tickets to packer fans to turn a few shekels and
sacrificed home field advantage. They are not the fans they
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think they are. This is not the football time we
think it is.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Look? Uh, I think that they knew. And that was
the game that he cash in on.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
It was exactly like when the forty nine ers were
coming in and the ticket prices got, you know, ramped
up to astronomical leer. Yeah, that was that one was
even worse as far as a takeover went. But I
don't think anybody believed in this team. If they thought
that we had a legitimate chance, I think that place
would have been full on Sunday night. I think that
to your earlier point, Mark, I think the fans know
(39:32):
exactly what's up with this team.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, Louise, what do you got somebody there?
Speaker 8 (39:38):
Yeah? My uh the woman who cleans my home. Yeah,
I have doublet to come in. Yeah? What were you saying? Though?
I totally agree with everything you say about the timing
of cashing in, But you're either a fan or you're not.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Did she help your phone? Mark?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
What it's this is spooky? What if that wasn't his
cleaning lady. Oh no, what if it was like somebody
that came to ramits she's been dead for you? Are there?
You're okay?
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Yeah? Yeah, I accidently hung up the phone. Yeah. I
understand that it was the time to cash in. But
you're either a fan or you're not. You either support
the team or you don't. There's no exceptions to that.
That doesn't happen in anfield Liverpool's home, it doesn't happen
in a lot of NFL stadiums. You just don't sacrifice that.
But the Steeler fans did. Like I said, they should
be embarrassed. And when the Colts come in on Sunday
(40:30):
and win by forty, the people who sold those tickets
that now show up for this game, we'll be getting
exactly what they deserve.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
So do you think that coach Tomlin, who is the
least aggressive coach in the NFL when it comes to
going forward on fourth down, will now be forced to
being much more aggressive in those scenarios fourth and five,
you know, instead of taking you know, a Boswell field goal,
giving your team a shot to get a first down.
Speaker 8 (40:55):
I don't think he will change one thing, even one
small thing, not one remote thing, not one tiny thing
about what he does. Because this is a guy who
would rather be right than win, and he's going to
accommodate himself.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
What about replacing the anthem with renegade?
Speaker 8 (41:11):
What about replacing renegade when fooling yourself? It's a sick sock.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I know there's always this.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
When the Steelers lose, the whole debate about renegade comes up,
and that it's just part of the in game production.
Now it's less about firing up the defense and more
about like people coming, sweet Caroline, this it's more about try.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
The quiet down the Green Bay fans.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Well there's that too.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Hey, the Steelers have done that plenty of times in
other stadiums, you know. And Bruce arians talked about it
on McAfee show yesterday too. He said that that shocked
him seeing all of those Packers fans in attendance on
Sunday night.
Speaker 8 (41:51):
By the way, you mentioned Pat, you know what Aaron
Rodgers's biggest weapon has been this year in terms of
getting himself on that show. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 12 (42:00):
I know.
Speaker 8 (42:01):
Complaints about Rodgers about not his play, not his conduct.
I love the guy. He's my favorite Steeler and like,
even though Aaron, you know, is Pat's friended at the
cost of a million dollars to Aaron, I wish I
had more friends Like that did was lay traps for
him to say something dumb.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Well, that's you know, we talked about this. Aaron Rodgers
is the least of the Steelers worries. In fact, he
might be the best thing they have going for them
right now. And the concern that people had coming in
this year was that he was going to repeat past behavior,
And that's all you have to go on the fact
that he didn't do that this year, and then his
attitude seems to be completely different because I think he
trusted this This organization was much more sound than the
(42:41):
Jets organization, which was like an open disaster. But it
kind of feels like the Steelers are like one of
those families you think has it together, but then you
go over for dinner and you're like, these guys are
a mess.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
There's a dungeon in the basement.
Speaker 8 (42:53):
Yeah, why are these chains on the wall? You let
me tell what could happen next year? If Aaron chooses
to play again, it won't be here, It'll be at
Minnesota Minnesota is gonna recognize that they made a mistake
not bringing him in or or franchising Sam Darnold and
gambling on McCarthy and Carson Vinz. They're still gonna have
a championship level team next year. They're gonna bring Rogers
(43:15):
and you watch because he will not come back here.
He will learn his lesson from having been here.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Like that, he went with the German pronunciation of yeah,
I'll go.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Back to he came.
Speaker 8 (43:28):
I was at the North Hills High School football game
Friday because I'm a supporter. I'm into two games this year,
and and they played the alma mater and I said
in the I was in the press box because I'm lazy,
and I said, I said to no one to pick her. Hey,
that's George land ueber Ales. It was good. What do
you is that? Some kind of jokes? And I go, no,
it's George lanuber Ales. And they got out there to
(43:49):
their phones with with YouTube were different, My god, it
is George landub which it is?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well, I mean is this too?
Speaker 8 (43:56):
Yes? Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (43:59):
I mean is that.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Isn't God save the Queen? Just God bless America?
Speaker 8 (44:06):
What the sex pistol song?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Like the Northills North is uber country, my country to you.
Speaker 8 (44:16):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yes, yes, Mark, always a pleasure talking with you, and
go be nice to you.
Speaker 8 (44:26):
Gotta get a plug in Ben kindall the Penguin sensational
rookie on today at four o'clock.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Wonderful, Yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 8 (44:33):
Yeah, they're they're you know what I mean. I think
it's almost unfortunate they're in a playoff spot because they
need a better pick, but they might make the playoffs
in a really bad Eastern Conference, and and they're very exciting.
Those kids have just ignited the team. They've ignited the
old guys. It's it's a passing of the torch, even
if the old guys are still here. And it's pretty
entertaining so far.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
It's like when you get a puppy for your old dog.
Speaker 8 (44:56):
By the way, do you know, technically, Sid she gets
suspended ten games?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Why from last night? I didn't see any of it.
I heard he got to take he ended, the game.
Speaker 8 (45:06):
Was over, so he left the bench and then there
was a fight and he kind of, you know, went
over and grabbed somebody. Technically, that's leaving the bench to
participate in a fight. That's an automatic ten games. But
I just don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, I hope not.
Speaker 8 (45:18):
But whan don't do like it would be so NHL
if they said, well, the roles are rules, We're just
spending the face of our game for ten games because
he broke this rule. And meanwhile in MLB o Tani
bet On baseball.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
And he's out there in the World Series and he
pretends he can't speak English.
Speaker 8 (45:33):
But no, I'm not complaining Boosetball gets it.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
No, NFL does too.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
Yeah exactly, I mean so, but I don't think he'll
get suspended anyway. Ben Kin looked for I gotta go
by
And I'd been with it. It sort of came out
of the blue. I got I was it was Friday
of Halloween. I got an email from the general manager
at eleven o'clock and said meeting at twelve o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And I was like, that's not good. I was like,
there's never there's.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Never an urgent, vague meeting that takes place in an hour.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
So I was sort of preparing myself. So anyway, guy
goes on. He proceeds to let me know that they're
you know, moving a different direction or anything like that,
and it was shocking. So I was already like a
little like no fore warning or anything like that. So
I was a little mad about the whole thing. And
on the zoom call, he it's it's head up only
and I see he's got these suspenders on, and it
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comes to my realization that he has just fired me.
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Speaker 2 (01:22):
So in our algorithm segment, I played let's ram.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It from the nineteen eighty six rams and we were
talking about how there was this whole, like, you know,
a bunch of Super Bowl Shuffle inspired music videos that
came out in the NFL in the ensuing year, and
the Steelers were planning on one before the AFC Championship
game against the Chargers. Bill Yeah, and we were trying
(01:45):
to figure out who organized that, and Tim Benz came
to the rescue.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Eric Green and Chad Brown talked about it in a
trip Live article that that Benzi sent us that I'm
gonna definitely tweet out because this is hilarious.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Apparently they felt so bad about it. Like the following year,
John L. Williams said the guys realized the opportunity in
front of them. They're not gonna put themselves in position
to repeat last year. We can't do things unrelated to football. Yeah,
Chad Brown said.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Took your eye off the ball?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Were people not looking at film and practicing their dance moves?
He's like, it wasn't that bad, but it was just
sort of emblematic of.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Lack of focus.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So during the break, I looked up saying, remember there
was a bunch of them, and Abby and I have
been cueuing these songs, Bill, these are so bad. This
is from nineteen eighty six the Los Angeles Raiders. Howie Long,
Marcus Allen, Matt Millen, Todd Christiansen is in the gallery here.
And the funny thing about all of these videos they
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all have the same sort of like choreography, which there's
always a room where they're all like just doing the
side to side.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Dance, Yeah, singing in unison.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And this was from the NFL on NBC A young
Bob Costas in nineteen eighty six introducing this.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
So now watch out Chicago Bears, and for that matter,
watch out Springsteen, Dire Straits and Madonna. Here come the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
They all wrapped together.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Since oh that.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
They have eye black on underneath for the video.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Ar lord, how we.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Long glory every day?
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Running the mom.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
With a flat top? Yeah, this long.
Speaker 9 (04:06):
Size short on quarterback sax and I love the sit
off running.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Back, oh man so bad.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
They're all doing it like the Fat Boys or you know,
Sugarhill Gang.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I love the Fat Boys so much. Okay. Then there
was the forty nine ers. Uh this is forty nine
ers rap and you'll hear Ronnie Lott by the way.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I mean this is yeah the eighties. I mean they
were good enough to make these songs.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I have fast forwarded past the How long was the intro?
It was like well over a minute instrumental, Like wow, it.
Speaker 10 (04:48):
Was like a keyboard, but it was a saxophone, but
it was a keyboard.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You couldn't see the video Abby.
Speaker 10 (04:54):
That that I but I could, you know what I mean, Like,
I didn't see it, but it was in my mind.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
They were there's like this horn intro and here I
gotta play a little of it for you. It's so
cheesy eighties synth, but it's not a horn. It's the
synthesizer playing horns. But they film the players pretending to
play the brass, which is.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Dude, this song that right there they have.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
The It sounds like everything in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It sounds like something we would do as a like parody,
except Eric Dickerson's gonna roll up to the mic here
and I mean, these players are getting down and they.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Are like the eighties porn music.
Speaker 11 (05:40):
Okay, okay, here's the deal. We rap them like tim
Just me, Roger Craig and a couple of prads. You know,
we played a game where you pass if the run
some most of the ball. We ought to have bus
I'll get the ball every now and then they call
me Roger Dodger. I'm busting to the dude there. I'm
on a team that's never been fine. The San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He ripped his shirt off when he said that. Always Hey,
don't you jucker man.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I'm about to get a vissed.
Speaker 9 (06:13):
I stick for wide receiver and make his mama dozy,
don't touch me, don't try to run.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I put a run and put you out of the game.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Sons, it's your decision. I put your vision.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I put your whole family out of commission. I got
to know.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It's mem real nice, but you.
Speaker 10 (06:28):
Got to say hi to my homeboy.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
Jerry Rice.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
My name is Jerry Ray. Please don't try to give
me because you fain't the price. I mean so fast,
I'll give you a bove. You be thinking that your
next minute, don't you know? Don you know, like me
get to the knee. Hey, hey, wait a minute, man,
what about me? Dunk the boots? And I love pay day.
I turned the loss and two a ten yard.
Speaker 11 (06:50):
Game on my bellet And you could do what you
want because I ain't going down.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Jack's fisteam means too much to me.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Add to all up the man. See in the scene,
I mean, wow, insane, wow, wow.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Now lest you think they're all rap, you know, some
teams thought like, yo, maybe we should make it a
little more like I don't know, R and B or
like maybe a little more just kind of soulful or something.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And I don't know what the Seahawks were thinking in
nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But they do this video where they're all looking very
tired in the locker room and they're all they're all yawning,
and they're like slowly lifting weights like they're just exhausted.
And I don't know who number fifty five is their linebacker.
He comes through and gives the guys a pep talk
and then the music starts and Bill, tell me if
you think this was a good idea in terms of
choice or genre.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
I've been working out and get shown the Blue Waves
on the road.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We've got the on the run.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
And the Waves on a road.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't even know how good they were. I mean,
it's like Steve Largent, I think Dave Craig was their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
I was gonna say, yeah, I remember them coking through
and getting any Super Bowls in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We were as well as we were teams. It's just
so Lackey Sacks. That's kind of where it is.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And then the New England Patriots commission these people to
do a song, I guess to counter the Super Bowl Shuffle,
because they played them in the Super Bowl that year
and the whole town rallied around this song. So this
was not really the team so much as this was there.
Here we go and it was called New England the Patriots,
and we.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Kill they come on, dude, it's just so special.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And then it didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The craze didn't really dine out for a couple of years,
and then in nineteen ninety the Dolphins put can't touch
us out?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
Get that on for you. Blu forty two, Blu forty two.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, hut hot hot. I want to my mmy, oh
(09:58):
my lord, thank you blessing me with all those dogs.
And that's good.
Speaker 12 (10:03):
Let me know you're down with the super Bowl team
and a super hometown were as such, this is the team,
can't I mean?
Speaker 8 (10:11):
Was that so?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Wait? Was that the Marinos first year?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, no, he'd already been there for a while.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Okay, because they never got back, I thought.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I don't think so. I mean, I think that's just
pure cocaine decisions, right, that is.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Oh, I think I like the forty nine Ers wrap
the most out of all of them, the New England
or the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
One I don't understand at all.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It doesn't make any sense. Is too fast.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's just really bad. And thank god the Steelers never
put one out. I mean, just the notion that they
were thinking about it was bad enough.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Eric Green, I do. I've always wondered what it would
have been like to hear Barry Foster and some of
those guys wrap. Though I don't know Greg Lloyd, I mean,
avoid Lloyd.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I bet Greg Lloyd could rap.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I think even if you couldn't, I would say you're
the best.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You're so good, right, you're the best. Please don't murder
the best that ever did it. Abby got an update
for you. What's going on?
Speaker 10 (11:07):
This is our brought to you by Window Nation. Some
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its last batch of pennies in August, so now a
growing number of stores or reporting issues. The American Banking
(11:27):
Association says up to two hundred and fifty billion pennies
are still in circulation, but notes some localized supply issues.
So here's what to expect when paying cash without pennies.
Some stores arounding the total to benefit the customer, and
others say not to expect correct change. So if you
have a stash of pennies, go ahead and start spending them,
(11:49):
but locally for one day only. Giant Eagle shoppers can
double the value of their spare pennies. So from eleven
am to four pm on November first. Shoppers can bring
in their spare pennies to any Giant Eagle or Market
District store and exchange them for Giant Eagle gift cards.
The exchange requires a minimum of fifty cents in pennies
(12:10):
resulting in a one dollar gift card, and allows a
maximum of one dollars in pennies resulting in a two
hundred dollars gift card.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Okay, pennies.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I used to have a penny jar.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I used to have a penny jar. Yeah, well, just
to change jar and then there's pennies in it.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
Really.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But I don't have money on me anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Like even when I was going to I told you
I went to that the Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese, you know,
football championship on Saturday, And I was driving there, thinking,
am I gonna have to pay to get into this thing?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Like I don't need cash?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It was free, thankfully.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Oh really?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, I mean it's like seventh and eighth graders playing football.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
But that doesn't matter. I mean, I'm I'm paying to
go see, you know, volleyball games in middle school. I'm
going I'm paying to see like lacrosse games.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Or yeah, no, thankful, Maybe I just knuck in. I'm
I'm not sure, but I never didn't. I never have
cash anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Well, a lot of those.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Places, even the high school games now like they have
like a little square code you could.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
You know, go buy them online.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
University of Southern California something that pennies isn't it didn't
somebody say at some point, like melting down pennies was
going to be more worth more than pennies.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh Like there was this.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Mean going, no, what are pennies made out of copper?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But there was somebody who said they cashed in like
two hundred thousand dollars worth of They wanted it all
in nickels because whatever, I don't know, nickel is in nickels.
I'm not sure what metal is in there, but it
was going to be worth more than the actual nickel soon,
and so they wanted to like have it all and
then sell it for the metal, which didn't make any
(13:52):
sense to me, No pun intended.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I know that I used to like my nickname was
Billy Nichols at one point in high school because I
worked at Applebee's in Edgewood Town Center, and the bartender
used to tip me out in all change. Used to
give me a three pound envelope. It just had a
million Nichols in it, and I would just put it
in my pocket. So every time I got up off
the couch, it would just be change everywhere, and they'd
(14:21):
be like, damn, Billy Nichols, go to the Coinstar, what
the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Was there Coinstar? I was going to ask you was
that around that?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I think it might have just come out, yeah, in
the late nineties.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
Somehow.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
The first few times you do Coinstar, you're like, you
feel like you're making out. You know, You're like, yeah,
I just totally bimboozled these guys walking here with me.
Speaker 10 (14:41):
I'm a thousand percent doing this this Saturday.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Yeah you have.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Sense, Yeah I do, because.
Speaker 10 (14:48):
I do the laundry and so every time I go through,
I empty out everybody's pockets and I put them in
this mason jar that's right next to the laundry, and.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I have a stash.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
How much do you think you have media?
Speaker 8 (15:03):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
There's a lot.
Speaker 10 (15:05):
And I think this would be a good project for
Edie as well, who has no concept of money at all?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Do you have more coins next to the laundry or
guitar picks, ear plugs, ear plugs and guitar ear plugs,
guitar picks. There's a lot of like nails and screwdriver
like like little.
Speaker 10 (15:24):
Screws and.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, candy wrappers.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Any rappers, Yeah, all things like that.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
The ear plugs, earplugs, and guitar picks always yep. If
you ever need a ear pluge your guitar picks, they're
always next to the washer and dryer, yep.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Ould stack of them, you need them, I got them.
Speaker 10 (15:43):
A University of Southern California study reveals HBO's Emmy winning
the Pit motivates viewers toward organ donation and end of
life preparations. Research examining two multi episode storylines shows twenty
six point nine percent of surveyed audiences sought organ donation information,
while seventeen point two percent shared donation details with others.
(16:06):
The organ donation narrative particularly resonated with black viewers, a
demographic overrepresented a transplant waiting lists, yet under represented on
as donors. Concerning end of life planning, thirty eight percent
of viewers pursued additional information after watching episodes of The Pit.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Hey, that's pretty cool. No, it's good that it had
that collateral effect.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
It's a good show.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I love The Pit. I went I watched it a
second time, like as like I throw it on while
I was like, you know, Riude my bike or something
when I was doing stationary stuff. And it is hilarious
to me how many like wedged in Pittsburgh references they
throw in there. But uh, I'm I know it was
(16:51):
supposed to be er, a continuation of ER. I'm not
sure what is so compelling about that show, Like, it's
not the Pittsburgh that keeps me watching it like that.
Those were fun and little storylines like the guy's dog's
name is Crosby. Yeah, and they're like Sidney here, David.
He's like David, And I'm like, nobody would admit that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
No, No, the City, Yeah, I mean I think no.
Noah Wiley.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Wiley is definitely a star, a television star. He makes
it really fun to watch how good he is, and
just that there's constant action they go for that.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I mean, it's non stop.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
It feels like live you know, basically people watching a
hospital function.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, and it is using the template that twenty four
had on Fox, the Keifer Sutherland's show right where it's
like every episode is an hour of that day.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, it's just a continuation.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
They're good feeding the rewards system though that they're also
going back to a storyline. So if you were enjoying
a certain storyline, they like reward you like a little
lab rat that they're coming back to it because of that.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
The only thing that I have a hard time with
is the graphic nature of the show, some of the
cuts and incisions and those that like that's it's.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
A lot, a lot of a lot of peen, a
lot of pain for an HBO show.
Speaker 13 (18:14):
It's normal.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
There's no worse pain than hospital hospital peen, the worst
kind of pain.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
I worked in a hospital for a rotation in psych
saw a lot of pain, and I was in the
geriatric unit.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
You're like, and I was a receptionist, old pain, Like,
there's for some reason they like their knees up a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Damn.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
That's the first person they saw every morning, knees up Like, huh,
Leonard put it away.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Oh that looks like touchdown, Jesus, look what I did.
Good morning, No, good morning, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
That was the worst part about what my dad was sick.
Was like in medic a delimited assisted living facility. Nobody
there's just people walking around. They don't know what's going on,
you know. He was like in the demential wards, so
that it was really like that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's what I work. Yeah, there's just people are like
walking around with no pants. Yeah, so I did. I
just wanted to make everyone feel comfortable. That's what I
did too, And that's why they kicked.
Speaker 10 (19:15):
Me off that rotation and they're like, you can't keep
doing that trying to assimilate.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I mean like I just thought that's what we were not.
So I'm giving away to clouds rain this afternoon. It's
high fifty five this.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
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The UH Steelers making some moves trying to fill in
for the Deshaun Elliott injury by acquiring the Patriots safety
(19:51):
Kyle Dogger anymore?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Are we going to try to complete the set? How
many safeties did they have left?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't know, Like the Sultan pepper shaker, Well it's
a pepper. We yeah, that is we got peppers, right, peppers. Also,
the Penguins get a point but lose to the Flyers
and the Blue Jays evening up in the World Series Sports.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
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Speaker 13 (20:36):
From the Bridgeville appling Sports that brought to you by
Bridgeville Appliants. The Steelers collapse at accuracy against the Packers
included a lack of fight, Mike Tomlins confirmed yesterday, but
the Steelers head coach also clarified what he specifically perceived
to be lacking against Green Bay.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
No, I don't necessarily say a lack of fight in
terms of effort. I'm talking about fight in terms of
you know, you don't get credit for trying hard. We're
not in the try hard business. Our fight is about
production and producing, and we certainly didn't produce enough plays
over the last thirty minutes of the game, particularly in
(21:14):
any of the phases, to secure victory.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
They did not, and victory was not secured.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Didn't it sound like he explained away the defense's problems
on Sunday Night by reducing it to two big splash
plays on third down, and if you take those away,
he's almost fine with the defensive effort.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Now.
Speaker 13 (21:37):
I know some people interpret it that way. I did
not get that impression at all. We'll play that next
hour if you like. I think what the one hundred
yards and two third down plays he talked about that stuff,
specifically the fifty nine yard being the catalyst for the oh,
woe is us kind of malaise.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That they I mean that very easily could have been
picked off right there, and then you have the ball
on the twenty eight.
Speaker 13 (21:59):
Or whatever it would have been, and they gets what
he saw. If those are two plays they absolutely should
have made. The fact that they're not is the problem.
And I think that that well, I think he's acknowledging
that I don't think he's saying to take those two
plays away and we're good.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I didn't get that at all.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Now, I didn't take that from it either, But and
I think that that play in particular was compounded by
the fact that Elliott got.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The gruesome injury to popular the glue.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 13 (22:28):
But you know nobody stepped up thereafter in any phase,
and that of course included the defense. So you can
add that to the list of deficiencies that has conspired
so far, at least to prevent this defense from becoming
as historic as initially advertised.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
We make no excuses about how or why we fall short.
Our job is to perform and perform at a high level,
and we haven't done that, and so I'm excited about
getting back to it. Seven games or whatever doesn't make
a season. We certainly got more in front of us
and more opportunities to write our story, whether it's individuals,
whether it's a component of our team, or whether it's
(23:09):
our team in general.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I think that's our general mindset.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I know that we're talking about Okay, they're turning themselves
into the Bengals now where they're acknowledging their defensive shortcomings.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Saying they're doing that.
Speaker 13 (23:21):
I'm just saying that's my theory for whatever path there
is to avoid catastrophe, that is it.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I still don't think that you want to look at
the offense as something that goes out there and tries
to score quick.
Speaker 13 (23:36):
They still need to base it off of the running game.
Absolutely got to possess it. It's got to be pretty specific.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Like take your time, but make sure you finish the
drive and don't settle for bos like get bas off
everybody's fantasy team.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 13 (23:51):
They're tied for eleventh in points per game right now,
twenty five per game, which by Steeler standards of.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Recent advantage fast improvement.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's a revelation. They got to they got to get
that up, and they got to possess the ball while
they do it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think, oh definitely.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
And they need timely drives too, like the context matters
coming out in the second half and going three and
out right off the jump or not good enough.
Speaker 13 (24:18):
Or as we've seen the last two weeks, more points
in the first half when you have the other team
on the run.
Speaker 15 (24:23):
Yep, settle in for three field goals. Yeahs, game game
a lot different. They only got ten points in the
first half against the Bengals, and they left points on
the field, and its a lot of points on that
and in this game it was three field goals and
only one touchdown. Maybe maybe if it's more than sixteen
to seven, maybe if it's twenty three, maybe it's a difficult.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean I always look at that, like, you know,
short field goals are one thing. When you're he's hitting bombs,
then you're not really moving the ball all that much.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Well, it depends where he started. What's the I wonder
what that Yeah, when you kick a.
Speaker 13 (24:59):
Field goal, because you dropped the thirty three yard touchdown
pass in the end zone, that was pretty close to
being a touchdown, even though it's a long field goal.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That made Rogers dropped the f and cs or you
didn't see that no, oh yeah, you get good lip
reading on that one. He was passed when DK dropped
that touchdown, Oh yeah, or had it broken up or
however you want to Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
No, it was a great play. And also maybe you
should have caught it. Yeah, position his body better.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
If you're going to be a highly paid, highly touted,
this is our guy type of guy, then that's a play.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Got K played it? Like it was an easy catch
and not a combat catch, right, And I think.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
That, you know, the coaches is upset because he sees
these drives that are promising stall through penalties or just
drop balls, or you know, just mental.
Speaker 13 (25:49):
Errors like offensive pass interference. Yeah, like that, Kyle Dugat
reportedly is on the way. Here's an interesting little nugget
related to that. Steele's played the Patriots in Week three
at jo Lette Stadium. They had just acquired Drabrill Peppers
(26:10):
not long before that. Elliott Deshaun Elliott was out at
the time. Of course he's out again. Peppers had two tackles,
four assists, six combined tackles and a fumble recovery in
forty three snaps fifty eight percent of the defensive snaps.
Kyle Dugger was playing for New England at the time.
(26:31):
He had one tackle, one assist, two combined tackles eighteen
defensive snaps thirty three percent. He was basically in that game.
He was basically a first and second down guy that
was kind of looking out for tight ends. Hey, Packers
tight end just said six hundred and thirty eight receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You know, maybe they need.
Speaker 13 (26:49):
Somebody to cover a tight end, but I don't think
Kyle Duger. It's pretty good to me. Him and Peppers
are kind of the same guy. I know dougas played
a little free safety in his career. You still got
a Chuck Clark wan Thornhill problem in the back end.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Would you.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Put Ramsey at safety? Prehm with I don't think neither
of those guys can cover, so I guess you can't.
Like if the knock on Peppers and Dougger is that
they're not great in coverage. Yeah, I mean you're you're
If there are a couple of thumpers, that's one thing, but.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
You're gonna need those in this game too.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Theoretically, you could put Ramsey at safety.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
And then Peppers or Dugger at the other safety right,
and then Porter and Eccles or Sleigh, which.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'd be going slay Sligh has announced, and then who's
the nickel? Is Arthur Marlette still on the roster playing
for somebody else?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Or no?
Speaker 13 (27:53):
No, he's somebody Yes, yeah, because everybody in the secondary
is hurt for de try, but somehow they continue to win.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Should we get Beanie a call?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
He's here, He's here. So the practice squad I didn't
even know that call him up.
Speaker 13 (28:11):
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And new home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one A two
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right now, but he is uh, he is not answering
his phone.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
He got a misconduct at the end of overtime last night.
So I propose we play Rammitt until Mark calls out.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
But we're a rabbit. You can ram it, Martin.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You can end us at any time.
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Brother.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
Double on Mark Man' joing this right now? Mark?
Speaker 8 (32:04):
How are you hello again? Everybody?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
We were just we were going down the list of
NFL teams rap videos from the eighties after the Super
Bowl shovel and we were playing as they lead into you,
let's ramm it from the nineteen eighty six rams ram It.
Speaker 14 (32:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Would you like to hear a little bit.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
I would not know. I said no, I said no.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yes, he did say no very clearly. Oh I thought
it was yes. Your phone broke up.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
I remember when the Steelers had that rap video planned.
I don't think they did it, but they had a plan.
They were talking about the media before they lost in
that gratuitous upset to the San Diego Chargers and Stan
Humphries in the nineteen ninety four AFC Championship game. So
so rap is crap as far as these Steelers that are.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Eric Green was the one that tried to organize that.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And the funny thing about that was that late in
the game was way past when the NFL teams were
even doing that anymore.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Well, another example of the Steelers being gratuitously behind the times.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
And I think you know now it's just players have
their own rap albums. Like Ab had his own rap album,
Le'Veon Bell had his own rap album.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Both were awful. Do you know what's funny though?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
When I hear we were listening to all of those raps,
Mark they have the the meter of the eighties rat
like Bill said the Fat Boys, like everyone is bump
bump bump, bu blah blah, blah blah blah uh bu
bu bah right, And when I hear that, I feel
like if Russell Wilson put out a rap song today,
that's exactly what it would sound like.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Remember when like Whoop there it is was the national anthem?
Pretty much like to show you how out of touch
sports editing best star newspapers. I remember Ed Bouchett wrote
a story about Neil o'donnald, the Steelers quarterback at the time,
who had had a really hot start to the season
and was at the top of all the passer ratings.
(33:56):
So Ed's lead was when you look at the NFL
quarterbacking statistics, you're shocked. Womp, there it is Neil O'Donnell
at the top of everything, and the.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Desk changed it to role there he is, Hey, guys,
we couldn't get much better.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Uh damn.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I've never seen like like the version of like a
white person trying to dance in text.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
Yes, if you ever want to find the most out
of touch people in the world for pop culture, go
to an editing desk with a newspaper for sports.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And Mark, I'm sure you feel the same way I do.
Speaker 13 (34:37):
Is we've both done newspapers and then transition to radio.
The best thing about radio is they can't edit what
comes out of your mouth.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
If you're trying to say death to all those who
edit sports coffee, I'm with you, all right.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
That seems a little severe heart, a little oh no no.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Let me tell you my story there, and I'm tepted
to name the guy. I did a story for the
because that one time, a page three, like those huge
stories analyzing the birth and development of the trap in hockey,
because the Devils were using it to slow to slow,
you know, the game down gratuitously and making it boring.
And my old premise was I talked to Scotty Bowman,
(35:17):
who was then with the Red Wings and when he
was with the Canadians in the seventies, who were the
most time powered offensive team ever. Arguably, he used to
trap every shift, but he used it to attack, like
as soon as the puck turned over, four guys went
the other way. So there were different ways to trap.
And Scotty Bowman sent me a diagram of his trap,
so the graphics department used that diagram to, you know,
(35:39):
to make one for the paper, a big feature diagram
in the middle of this story and the sports editors
and Time decided he didn't understand it, so he changed it.
And when it got into paper, there were six skaters
on the trapping team and Craig Patrick said to me, no,
wonder that works. You can use the guy like and
I would what to my boss? I said, Okay, so
(36:01):
you're smarter than Scottie Bowman when it comes to diagramming
the trap, which he frigging invented.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, you know, sometimes you just gotta ram it, all right,
So mark the Steelers facing the Colts this weekend. This
is not going to be an easy one. This Colts
offense high powered to the defense is in free fall.
But you know we've got the dugger to go with
peppers now from the Patriots. As Bill said earlier, we
(36:30):
got the complete set now defensively salt peppers. I think
that what frustrated people the most about Mike Tomlin's press
conference yesterday was that he was not directly acknowledging the issues.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And I don't think it's because he doesn't know them.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I think because that's how bad things are defensively, that
he kind of has to mask how how unproductive they
are compared to expectation from coach Tomlin when he declared
they might be historic this year.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
What what got me Mattis was when he led off
the presser yesterday, just like he did after the game,
by blaming the offense for not getting enough touchdowns, which
is traceable to him too, although not as directly, I suppose,
as with the defense. But yeah, I mean, nobody's demanded
accountability for this guy since day one? Why would they
do it now? He can say what he wants and
(37:21):
half of the people out there, more than half, really
swallow it. Although I think that fraction is changing, the
defense should be absolutely ashamed of itself, just ashamed of itself. TJ.
Watt no playoff wins, Cam Heyward won playoff win. All
they ever want is more money. All they ever cared
about in the first place was money. They're not competitors,
they're not winners. They're not mean. Joe Green, like I
wanted to call him last week, and I might have
(37:43):
said on the show, but I'll repeat myself gladly. You know,
all I know about me and Joe Green is that
he won for super Bowls. I don't know how many
all pros he got. I don't know about his defensive
Player of the Years. And you know what, that's all
I need to know, and all means Joe wanted me
to know. These guys are about to bag and about everything.
But and I know that because they don't win.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
And to your point, this weekend, that Super Bowl XL
team is going to be there. I don't know anybody
on that defense's contract extension situation over the course of
their career.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I just know those guys won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (38:15):
Yeah, exactly right. And these guys, they put themselves in
a position with all the angling for money and all
the greed and all the big mop gym teacher meaththead
bs that they promulgate all the time when they had
to win, and they don't. Not only not winning Bill,
but they stink. That defense stink. That defense is among
the worst Steeler defenses in history. I don't know if
(38:35):
you've heard the James Harrison sondbite. Oh yeah, he was
practically screaming and crying and threatening at the same time.
It's just these guys, like I said, should be ashamed
of themselves if they're not unembarrassed for them. But I'm
also embarrassed for the Steeler fans who sold all their
tickets to packer fans to turn a few shekels and
sacrificed home field advantage. They are not the fans they
(38:58):
think they are. This is not the football time we
think it is.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Look? Uh, I think that they knew. And that was
the game that he cash in on.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
It was exactly like when the forty nine ers were
coming in and the ticket prices got, you know, ramped
up to astronomical leer. Yeah, that was that one was
even worse as far as a takeover went. But I
don't think anybody believed in this team. If they thought
that we had a legitimate chance, I think that place
would have been full on Sunday night. I think that
to your earlier point, Mark, I think the fans know
(39:32):
exactly what's up with this team.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, Louise, what do you got somebody there?
Speaker 8 (39:38):
Yeah? My uh the woman who cleans my home. Yeah,
I have doublet to come in. Yeah? What were you saying? Though?
I totally agree with everything you say about the timing
of cashing in, But you're either a fan or you're not.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Did she help your phone? Mark?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
What it's this is spooky? What if that wasn't his
cleaning lady. Oh no, what if it was like somebody
that came to ramits she's been dead for you? Are there?
You're okay?
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Yeah? Yeah, I accidently hung up the phone. Yeah. I
understand that it was the time to cash in. But
you're either a fan or you're not. You either support
the team or you don't. There's no exceptions to that.
That doesn't happen in anfield Liverpool's home, it doesn't happen
in a lot of NFL stadiums. You just don't sacrifice that.
But the Steeler fans did. Like I said, they should
be embarrassed. And when the Colts come in on Sunday
(40:30):
and win by forty, the people who sold those tickets
that now show up for this game, we'll be getting
exactly what they deserve.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
So do you think that coach Tomlin, who is the
least aggressive coach in the NFL when it comes to
going forward on fourth down, will now be forced to
being much more aggressive in those scenarios fourth and five,
you know, instead of taking you know, a Boswell field goal,
giving your team a shot to get a first down.
Speaker 8 (40:55):
I don't think he will change one thing, even one
small thing, not one remote thing, not one tiny thing
about what he does. Because this is a guy who
would rather be right than win, and he's going to
accommodate himself.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
What about replacing the anthem with renegade?
Speaker 8 (41:11):
What about replacing renegade when fooling yourself? It's a sick sock.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I know there's always this.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
When the Steelers lose, the whole debate about renegade comes up,
and that it's just part of the in game production.
Now it's less about firing up the defense and more
about like people coming, sweet Caroline, this it's more about try.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
The quiet down the Green Bay fans.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Well there's that too.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Hey, the Steelers have done that plenty of times in
other stadiums, you know. And Bruce arians talked about it
on McAfee show yesterday too. He said that that shocked
him seeing all of those Packers fans in attendance on
Sunday night.
Speaker 8 (41:51):
By the way, you mentioned Pat, you know what Aaron
Rodgers's biggest weapon has been this year in terms of
getting himself on that show. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 12 (42:00):
I know.
Speaker 8 (42:01):
Complaints about Rodgers about not his play, not his conduct.
I love the guy. He's my favorite Steeler and like,
even though Aaron, you know, is Pat's friended at the
cost of a million dollars to Aaron, I wish I
had more friends Like that did was lay traps for
him to say something dumb.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Well, that's you know, we talked about this. Aaron Rodgers
is the least of the Steelers worries. In fact, he
might be the best thing they have going for them
right now. And the concern that people had coming in
this year was that he was going to repeat past behavior,
And that's all you have to go on the fact
that he didn't do that this year, and then his
attitude seems to be completely different because I think he
trusted this This organization was much more sound than the
(42:41):
Jets organization, which was like an open disaster. But it
kind of feels like the Steelers are like one of
those families you think has it together, but then you
go over for dinner and you're like, these guys are
a mess.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
There's a dungeon in the basement.
Speaker 8 (42:53):
Yeah, why are these chains on the wall? You let
me tell what could happen next year? If Aaron chooses
to play again, it won't be here, It'll be at
Minnesota Minnesota is gonna recognize that they made a mistake
not bringing him in or or franchising Sam Darnold and
gambling on McCarthy and Carson Vinz. They're still gonna have
a championship level team next year. They're gonna bring Rogers
(43:15):
and you watch because he will not come back here.
He will learn his lesson from having been here.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Like that, he went with the German pronunciation of yeah,
I'll go.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Back to he came.
Speaker 8 (43:28):
I was at the North Hills High School football game
Friday because I'm a supporter. I'm into two games this year,
and and they played the alma mater and I said
in the I was in the press box because I'm lazy,
and I said, I said to no one to pick her. Hey,
that's George land ueber Ales. It was good. What do
you is that? Some kind of jokes? And I go, no,
it's George lanuber Ales. And they got out there to
(43:49):
their phones with with YouTube were different, My god, it
is George landub which it is?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well, I mean is this too?
Speaker 8 (43:56):
Yes? Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (43:59):
I mean is that.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Isn't God save the Queen? Just God bless America?
Speaker 8 (44:06):
What the sex pistol song?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Like the Northills North is uber country, my country to you.
Speaker 8 (44:16):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yes, yes, Mark, always a pleasure talking with you, and
go be nice to you.
Speaker 8 (44:26):
Gotta get a plug in Ben kindall the Penguin sensational
rookie on today at four o'clock.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Wonderful, Yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 8 (44:33):
Yeah, they're they're you know what I mean. I think
it's almost unfortunate they're in a playoff spot because they
need a better pick, but they might make the playoffs
in a really bad Eastern Conference, and and they're very exciting.
Those kids have just ignited the team. They've ignited the
old guys. It's it's a passing of the torch, even
if the old guys are still here. And it's pretty
entertaining so far.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
It's like when you get a puppy for your old dog.
Speaker 8 (44:56):
By the way, do you know, technically, Sid she gets
suspended ten games?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Why from last night? I didn't see any of it.
I heard he got to take he ended, the game.
Speaker 8 (45:06):
Was over, so he left the bench and then there
was a fight and he kind of, you know, went
over and grabbed somebody. Technically, that's leaving the bench to
participate in a fight. That's an automatic ten games. But
I just don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, I hope not.
Speaker 8 (45:18):
But whan don't do like it would be so NHL
if they said, well, the roles are rules, We're just
spending the face of our game for ten games because
he broke this rule. And meanwhile in MLB o Tani
bet On baseball.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
And he's out there in the World Series and he
pretends he can't speak English.
Speaker 8 (45:33):
But no, I'm not complaining Boosetball gets it.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
No, NFL does too.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
Yeah exactly, I mean so, but I don't think he'll
get suspended anyway. Ben Kin looked for I gotta go
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