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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Ladies and gentle Dave Damn check on the East coast
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Thanks safely near and on the rivers of Pittsburgh, not
veering out into the Atlantic Ocean down near the Caribbean.
Who knows what might happen to be down there. How
are you, everybody. It's a pleasure to see you. I'm
joining you from South Beach, Miami, Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah. Did you go to the Dolphins game last night?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I didn't go to the Dolphins game. I was into
do the The Levatard Show, and it was it was
a a time aside from the fact that over my
head last night was the ravens looming like like grim reality,
hanging like like the slur like the sword of Damn
damnitles the.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Dam over my head.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Uh yeah, that's that's kind of like that's like for
for you guys like, oh my god, wait, what day
is it? Uh yeah, that's where we gotta get damn
ship the sword of Damna shit hanging over our head.
It's time to talk to him about these Pictsburgh Steelers.
I don't know, I don't know game. I'm I'm real.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Ravens look undead now, they like they did la Mar
Jackson is Michael Jackson and thriller when he turns into
a zombie. He's back through four touchdowns last night. I
don't like it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, there was there was nothing good. If you're a
Steelers fan watching what happened down in in South Beach,
and you know, I feel like I can kind of
talk myself into I talked to wilmerd dings own Kent
Brown a couple of days ago, and he said, he's like,
(02:09):
come on, man, you know what's gonna happen. He's like,
this is a Tomlin special. This is what he does.
You know he's gonna this is the kind of game
he wins. And he seduced me into it. And I'm
willing to say right now, I absolutely can see the
Steelers winning this game.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
We all can, all of us think this is going
to happen. Not tangibly. It's just the Tomlin thing. No,
that they're not supposed to win. There's no area where
they have the advantage.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And yes, zero empirical evidence that they will win this game.
But just because we've seen this fish before, we know
what's going to happen. And then what like what I
predicted was going to happen, was we were going to
go all the way to the end of the season,
like you know, win one, lose one. You know, lose
the game you shouldn't win the one. You should lose
the game you should win, win the game you shouldn't,
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and then it'll be us against the Dolphins, and we
have to win that game in order to have a
chance to stay in contention, and they'll thump us.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, that's right, that'll be perfect. You know, Like I say,
as we as we sit here, I'm fifty one percy,
it's gonna be a toll and special. They're gonna beat
the Coats. Then the other side of it is, there's
no reason based on what we've seen that they're going
to I mean, did we talked about it last week
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that they lost the game that decrepit Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
In the interim yes, yeah, we did talk about that
they got.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
In the interim, they got housed by the Green Bay Packers,
when everything leading up to that game was all about
that this is this is the game. Well, Aaron didn't.
He said it was not he didn't care. It didn't
make it.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It was not a big person play.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He didn't care. I suspect it might have been had
they won the game. But either way, they they got
whipped and it had nothing to do with Aaron and
had nothing to do with the offense. Once again, which
is fine. It's not like it's, you know, the idea
that now we're having these discussions. It's not a top
three in the league offense. Let's not get nuts everybody,
but no, but with.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
A historic defense, that offense should have been more than adequate.
The offense, well, Aaron Rodgers is the least of our worries.
And the fact that you say they got whipped by
the Packers when they were leading going into the fourth
quarter is like unimaginable to me that Mike Tomlin's defenses
are breaking down this much in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Did you see Williamson? I was just about to bring
that up. That is the most alarming stat I've seen
about this defense.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Is it seventy four percent? Now it's forty seven percent.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Of the points scored against the Steelers are in the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Wow, I did not see that, and that's that's gross.
And you know, I'm sure people of a certain age remember,
you know, you don't have to go back to you know,
the days at Chaz No. Remember Cower had that crazy
stat like up by eleven, never loses. I think ended
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up maybe losing one or two. But I mean that
was basically standard that if they got up eleven points,
the game was over and it's a different air and
all that, and so you should ask to risk it.
But nevertheless, the uh, you know, they're up at the
half by nine, and I saw I was, you know,
scrolling around, and I saw some screen grab that I
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had completely forgotten. Right before the end of the third quarter,
the Stealers were up nineteen seventeen still and the game
was such a blowout in real time, like twenty minutes later,
it's it's hard to fathom, and you know it. You
hear Tucker Kraft right after the game. By the way,
(05:54):
can I just say very quickly like to be a
curmudget here on Halloween. Another thing I'm a curmudget about
is aw up, don't just stop with the asking me
to put on a costume. All right, okay, okay, I
just I just stopped bugging me about it. Everybody, what's
your costume?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Because I want to listen. I got dulled up when
I was eleven years old. I'm not eleven anyway. This
this this delusional kind of like infantaalizing of people that
Tucker crafting for.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It was nice. Did you hear?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It was National tight Ends Day?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Oh my god, National tight Ends Day. Who gives a craft?
But what is the what do we have to honor
a non existent thing like a holly?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It was?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It was National National tight Ends Day.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
So we got you an award.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
We got Yeah, I'm so proud of all the other.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Tight ends.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Vomitous and anyway, also bombitous Tucker craft like into a
microphone and then they repeat something that during the during
the broadcast, they also said, which is like, hey Packers,
we've got to come out here.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
We've got to bully the bully.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Who are you talking about the Steelers or bullies? The
Steelers almost lost to Justin Fields in Week one. I
mean to the Jets. They gave up thirty. This is
not a one off or a two off. This is
all season long. This defense is bad.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Remember we thought the Jets were a juggernut that week.
We're like, dude, we messed up getting rid of Justin Field.
I mean, if they put on our defense, holy cow,
they must be good. Now.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
The Steelers from a bully standpoint, are George Foreman when
he was hawking Dorito's like at one point, maybe, but
now it's weird to get in the ring and try
to box George Foreman.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I remember when George Foreman lost his last fight where
he he should have won and he got screwed, and
Larry Merchant ran in the ring and he was apoplectic
on behalf of George Foreman and he's like, I can't
believe you just got screwed like that. George's like, that's fine,
I don't care. I want to tell you about something
I have coming out and you and I he did.
That's exactly he announced, George Foreman.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Grill, he don't lose the boat because the boat is
going to catch all the greeds.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
They lose the boat. Now, they needed to.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Have a boat something that like flipped out because that thing, Yeah,
everybody lost it and he got mangled in the dishwasher too.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
The boat would always like warm.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well. But the difference, Crawford, is that with that, with that,
the otherwise keen analogy is is that Michael Moore Pittsburgh
Zones found out that that that the old man could
if he got lucky, he could with one punch, he
could turn your lights out. I buy. That's why I
think what everybody's riding with with the Steelers this Sunday
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and will be all through the rest of the season,
because I mean they're I mean, it's on one hand
that the Tale of Two Cities. I know everybody has been,
including me, like man, the Ravens might be in some troubles,
they don't get healthy because you can't get that deep
in a hole and just dig yourself out. Well, they
transcended those injuries and look at what their next six
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or eight weeks looks like. There's not a loss on
the board. They might slip up somewhere along the way,
but they're about to go on a heater here and
the Steelers are about to do the opposite, and everybody's expecting, like, well,
let's get them a George Foreman special, just that one
punch Laydon and reverse everything around. Maybe we'll get that.
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I kind of feel like this, like Tucker Krab, like
we bullied the bully. It's like you're fighting George Foreman
in twenty twenty five, and I think we know where
George Forman is now. So let me ask you this,
even the grill anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
When you see stories like the report yesterday that Jerry
Dulac had floated the notion that ownership is not necessarily
angry but frustrated and a little bit, uh kind of
fed up with Mike Tomlin, do you think ownersh it
floats that stuff to kind of give some red meat
(10:04):
to the masses, or do you anticipate that this might
really be it? Because I was thinking going into this year,
if this goes bad, this is it for Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Reputation be damned.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And it does feel like the national media has picked
up on the sentiment that Steeler fans have had for
a few years.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, there is I hear what you're saying. I'll defer
to you on the on the rhythm sincerely of Pittsburgh
and what the underlying meaning is Bowman. I'll always defer
to you on that stuff. You have the best sense
for that sort of thing. Is how maybe the Steelers
would want something out there and all of that kind
of thing. I don't know. I'm not caging.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I definitely I don't have any knowledge of that. I'm
actually I wonder if if that's something they might do
to me.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It makes sense because this what I'm hearing, at least,
the groundswell of the Tomlin haters have has been there
really for the better part of it decade. But now
that he is wafting up to the owner's suite yet
and they're saying, well, if you don't make this change
that we all have been asking for for eight years,
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then you're the problem.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And if you start questioning ownership now he's like, wait
a minute, yeah, pushing on it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I've been trying to do everything I can to make
this guy's plan work.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And the conduit I think up to that owner's box
that you're talking about is when the former players who
who played on all the great teams start questioning what
the hell is going on? Yep, with great regularity, there's
been some speckles here and there over the last few
years of like, hey, what is Tomlin doing? But now
you go back, they're gonna be celebrating that Super Bowl
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forty team one Sunday. A lot of those guys are
not real big fans of what's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Right and they're yeah, they're not Yeah, they're not seventy
eight years old. They're they're you know, James Harrison still
looks like James Harrison.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And did you see his podcast it this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, I mean it's like when he yeah, when when
it's sort of like, oh, the Steelers, the Steelers defense
my Tom I'm uh, Debo is kind of like, don't
put that stink on me, don't you put that evil
on me. That's not the Pittsburgh Steelers. They don't want
the negative association. And as far as that goes, I
think it is spiritually the same thing we're talking about
(12:23):
here with the Rooney family, which is I think that
you know, it's a straw man the single like what
what a Steelers fans what they want him to They
want to fire Mike tom in mid season, like no,
I mean, nobody's insane. Whether nobody thinks they should fire
him before the Colts game, but at the end of
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the season. And by the way, it makes some football
sense in the in the flow of the never ending
football season, which is that you're presumably transitioning into a
new era with a rookie quarterback that you're going to
take in twenty twenty six, So it would make sense
to make that change from from that standpoint two. But
in the meantime, I think that what you're getting at
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is is that this this, you know, the Steeler's lore
and all of that, and and Art too understands that.
And for all the talk about, you know, if they fired,
if they got rid of Mike Tomlin, he'd get hired
five minutes later, the Steelers better realize that. I don't
think it's that exactly. It is like a the metaphor
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of of a of a Jenga tower that has endured
for decades and decades and has and has been pristine.
It's the never ending, never never crumbling Jenga tower of
knowl that. You know, Art and Dan picked jazz Nole,
then then Dan picks uh Car, then he picks Tomlin,
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and they're on a heater. They're on a decade long
like an improbable half century long streak of never missing.
So if you remove Tomlin and you hire someone like
Adam Gasee, you know, like what if you hire the
hot oc out there, one of the hot o seas well,
(14:12):
he's an impressive young man and he'll be here for
the next thirty years himself, and he turns out to
be like I say, Adam gaze or otherwise, and you
have to you have to knock him off. You're knocking
yourself off too. You're you're destroying the Jenga tower established
by you, by your family, and that's got to spook him.
And I completely understand that, Like, I don't want to
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mess with this. It's not oh, Tomlin might get hired
and win elsewhere. It's like what if I hired a
guy who immediately goes one in one in sixteen.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Right, they're batting one thousand since nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You don't want to screw that up?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, right, you don't. That's exactly right. In Little League,
everybody's getting the hit off the bump, second pitcher on
the second game of the of the week.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, yeah, I say, you don't want to be the
coach that replaces the legend. You want to be the
wach that replaces the coach that replace the legend.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Sort of like that, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Uh, but winning is tied to all this, right, Like
if if you're not winning, stability that's that's the Bengals
with Marv Lewis. I mean, it doesn't actually amount to anything.
The whole key for these guys was super Bowls and
they all have one or more. You know, obviously Chuck
has the most. But if you don't win, what's what
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does the stability matter?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It is a weird but with all the talk like
self imposed again, the same thing as like historic defense
you said it, and same thing about like the standard
is the standard? You said it? And the standard is
now something akin to what the Bengals have, which is like, hey,
they're always in the mix, you know, like, hey, got
to give them credit there there. He keeps them in
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the fight. And you know, Cam Hayward is one of his,
uh his students of spreading. It's like, I'm Cam Hayward,
the captain of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Cam Hayward's going to
the Hall of Fame and he's talking to microphones about it.
We just got to try harder, we said, we gotta
try harder, We got to care more. Like what the
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Pittsburgh Steelers this is that that's a weird if you
listen to that message, think about what he's saying. I mean,
the Chiefs are talking about like, boy, that we're hard
to handle with Rashid Rice in there, because then we
have Xavier Worthy taking the top off and Trauvis Kelsey's
looking pretty we you know, we do some interesting things
with our formations that give the ball to this guy
to say, we've got to try harder. We don't know,
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we don't know where we're supposed to stand.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
We don't know where, we don't know who the two shots.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
You know that I think that everyone thinks about with
the defense right now is Jamar Chase running free with
the game on the line, running free with the game.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Allison running free up the ones, running completely free in
running wild Watson.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's the one that that you know where it's the
jump ball that hung up for five seconds and there's
just nobody there in Chuck Clark flailing you know, Uh,
Dave Dan, you know, not exactly getting us off on
a really happy foot this morning. I thought you were
supposed to seduce us.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I thought you had been seduced, and you were gonna
then seduce us and past the same.
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know the doom and gloom of damascheck aside. Let's move
on and let's think positively about how we can get
past the Colts somehow this Sunday and get the right.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
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Speaker 5 (18:42):
Do you want me to leave for ten minutes time
and then come back when you've returned from Fantasy Oka.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
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in November with good weather Actress Stadium.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You want some home dogs.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
And we're not gonna show up for the team on Sunday. No,
you're gonna sell you tickets to the Packers fans. It's
the same as last Sunday night. You want to hook,
you want something to Clinton. Yes, this is the ultimate
get right game, no question.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You're guy, You're ever gonna get right You can't ignore
or look past this team.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Because they're legit.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
This isn't like, ah, they're seven to one, but it's flawed,
and they're not that good.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
They're they're all that they're they're all that well.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Thankfully, the defense is firing on all cylinders right now,
so be able to stop this moon freight train.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
It absolutely is sports. This hour brought to you by
Bridgeville plais That Steelers defense has been scorched in consecutive games,
but defensive coordinator Terrell Austin and that side of the
ball are staying the course from a preparation standpoint and
a procedure standpoint, which means head coach Mike tom is
gonna be a big part of that preparation and process.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
He's part of the defense obviously, and he's always been
part of it, and it's nothing's changed in that regard.
We go through our weeks, we plan, he's in all
the meetings, all those things, and so there's really no
change in terms of how we work together as a staff.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Austin will remain the defensive play call against the Colts,
except in those instances when he's not.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
It's the same since since I've been in this chair,
I'm calling it, and if Mike wants to call something,
he calls it, and that's how we roll.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I mean, that's how it's been.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I mean, I don't know how you can even criticize
the defensive call playing if these guys don't know what
they're doing. Ever, you can't criticize the play calls if
they can't execute what's on the field. You see them
pointing around and being confused all the time. Maybe it
was the perfect call. They don't know how to run them.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah, there's something amiss in the process. I don't think
the players all stink, but they break down.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
They're not playing together.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
I don't think the schemes are bad, but they break down.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
They should just all play Madden because everyone online seems
to think they all know defense because of playing Madden.
And maybe if they did that together, they'd all be
able to have the same lingo and talk back and forth.
Because whatever they're doing right now, they are completely confused
all the time. The secondary is a mess, the middle
linebackers are a.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Mess, and all the time it's just on huge plays
and then it's snowballs.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It's snowballs because somebody is out of you know position
on one play, and then his teammate is trying to
compensate for that, and then he's out of position, and
then it just it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's snowballs on them.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
And then you throw in the especially on the defensive line.
They do that the stuff we saw against Green Bay.
Those two throw it up down the middle and Hope
passes from Jordan Love that changed the game.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Somebody got to make a play there. It's just it's
just that simple.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
And when you know, you see what happens now, you
can't let that stuff defeat you the way they did.
They just kind of fell apart thereafter. But I don't
know what the answer is against the NFL's number one
offense in terms of yards and points. I think it's
gonna have to be scoring more points. Well, I have
the solution make the field even worse. Yeah, well, I
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mean they're gonna, they're gonna they need to do some
stuff too, And I think this is let the.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Groundhogs have their way over the weekend, dig lots of tunnels,
have people turn ankles.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
It's funny because the Steelers offense is averaging twenty five
points a game. It's tied for eleventh in the league.
I mean, this is we haven't been here in a
long long time. Offensively, it's it's adequate. It's ahead of
the middle of the pack.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yep, it's just off the top ten.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
It's it's eight points off the eight point eight points
off the pace. Indianapolis's is setting uh is leading.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
The league with it seems like a lot, but they
are on fire. So yes, but we're.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Just not paint any attention because the defense is so bad.
Ye know, nor should we be. But my point is,
you get just a little more out of this offense.
He came metcalf. Doesn't let the guy the ball out
of his hands for for an interception that should be
a completion. Don't drop the one in your hands in
the end zone, you know, don't don't do some of
the things they've done that have left points on the field.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And don't let the coach off the hook for not
going forward on fourth down when you should. A lot
of the reason why these offenses in the NFL are
putting up the numbers so they are is because the
game has changed and they go forward on fourth down
when percentages dictate you do. I'm not a huge analytics
guy in terms of you have to. But he's the
last in the league in going for it when statistically
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they say you should.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
And the Raiders are second, and they stick you can't.
But that's that's what I'm not going to buy this argument,
because if you can't block Aaron Donald, you can't block
Aaron Donald. But and but fourth and three one is
a lot harder than the analytics says.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
When you're ripping off seven at a pitch in the
first half with Jalen Warren and you're afraid to keep
running him and you have a fourth and three right there,
you don't have something that you can get a fourth
to three and feel confident and put their defense on
their heels.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, here's my theory. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Is part of the reason a lot of these just
because the Raiders s think what they're doing is out
of desperation.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
The teams that are actually like you.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Just talked about how they're a top ten offense, the
Raiders are not.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
They're doing it out of desperation. We should be doing
it out of because we can.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Well, I just you had a nerve with me when
you say when they should no, no, no, not say
decide should Okay, it's it's got to.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Be an in game decision.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Here's how I would, But I am agreeing with you
that it shouldn't be every time.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I just want I don't want you to think that.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I'm not going to look at a graph and say
that's how you run a football game, because this is
just and that's not how you run.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
People completely agree.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
However, circumstantially he refuses to consider it.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Well, what I would do starting Sunday, I don't mind
kicking field goals because Boswell's really good and really reliable.
Where I would start to look to go for it
would be about your own forty fourth and one, Damn
your own thirty eight. That's what I'm talking about, the
fifty yard line, Like, keep those drives going is what
I'm talking about. Okay, then we're on the same page.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, but no, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Talking about on our own thirty five going for it.
I'm talking about when it's fourth and three and you're
on their thirty.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Well no, but then that in that case, get the
points if the game is still manageable. I don't want
to pass up points to go for it you have
them backed up. But if I can extend the possession.
Then that's what they got to start seeing. Boswall is
going to start missing on this crappy field. And the
other thing is if you go for it, like around
your own forty, it's steal a Green Bay thing from
years ago when Tomlin on side kicked with the lead. Yeah, hey,
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if they score, at least we'll get the ball back.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Quicker.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, but Ran you you hated that they went for
it in Dublin.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Remember that was different circumstantially what I was.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I was not saying that, like if if percenta just
say you should go for it, you should. I was
saying they're last in the league in that, meaning they
never do. I'm not saying we need to lead the
league in it. I'm saying it needs to be considered
once in a while. Circumstantially, I disagreed with what they
did in Doublin, but against the Packers on that particular one,
that's when I thought they should have gone for it.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, that's that's a fair argument.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
But I think it's got to be a possession by
possession analysis of it, and you got a factor in
what's working and what isn't.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
How I totally agree with all that. How they are
literally last, meaning they never do.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I don't care. And you know what else goes forward
a lot teams that are losing.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I know, yeah, you're we're we're dancing around the same argument.
My point is he never does. But when he complains
about the offense, he had an opportunity there in a
game that he knew was going to be a shootout,
and he's trying to win it by one point like
that ain't gonna happen?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Well, when when professional memory, what point of.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
The game was that? I think Boswell already? I think
that was his third field goal.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Okay, so that put him up sixteen sevend that was
in the first half, or that put him up that
put him up nine to seven. I'll tell he took
the lead there, right. I mean, it's every situation is unique.
If you're doing it the right way, you can't.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
It was his third field He had a fifty six yarder,
a fifty yarder and then the forty eight yard right,
So that was second quarter, yes, and that put him
up nine to seven.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yes, I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
And situationally, I didn't have a problem with what they
did in Dublin because they were trying to put the pedal.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Put to the metal into game away right there.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Put their cleats on their throat, and you know, tell
the special teams get the hell out of here. We
want this and I want my offense to feel that
right now. They didn't have to not cover Jordan Addison
on the ensuing drive and give up an eighty yard bomb.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And yet they did.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That's that's why I thought you didn't go for it there,
And I like, I don't feel super strongly about like
I see the argument in Dublin. My point is he
plays so conservatively all the time.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
He is he is.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Oh well, that's what everybody says. I mean, do you
see them taking shots down the field. When Aaron Rodgers
has one on one, you see him more and more,
more and more calculated. It's not okay, we're gonna throw
nine bombs today because we're gonna be aggressive.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
You've got to play the game.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
And when Mike Tomlins had good quarterbacks, he's had offenses
at score points, when he's had Duck Hodges and Mitch
Trubisky and Kenny Pickett, he's been real conservatives because guess
what those guys are turnover machines that stink. I mean,
it doesn't. It doesn't happen on a graphic or in
a video game. You've got to play the game you're playing.
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Probably right now is defense. It's not him being too conservative.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Probably probably the one is you you brought up there.
The problem is their defense stinks. Defense can't finish.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And I am at a loss to tell you why
that is. Because there's there's times in a game when
it plays well, and there's times in a game when
it looks like they've never practiced once.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
So it's mostly in the fourth quarter. It's something.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I mean, that is an alarming stat. Almost half of
the points that they've allowed a been in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
My theory is it's either the way the message is
being the livered or the way the message is being
received not being received. Yeah, there's a there's a there's
a disconnect somewhere. They got to fix that. And and
you know, and then the try hard thing. I agree
one thousand percent with Damashek. I wrote my Pittsburgh magazine
Calm about that this week. When Cam Hayward comes out
and says we don't have enough fight after the seventh
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game of a season, when you just got your ass kicked,
and you still have expectations and aspirations. Not enough, Hey,
we don't have enough corners, we don't have enough offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Okay, fine, you know what happens. Not enough fight.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Unacceptable, especially with the names on the back of the
jerseys when you collect this much talent, that's that's completely unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
We have Missy Matthews joining us after the break will
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Speaker 1 (29:54):
Calvin Austen the Third is joining us at eight a
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Speaker 1 (31:24):
I was laughing because Mark Madden posted a picture he
went to see Robert Plant at that weird in music hall.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I thought it was West Banko, but okay, there that well.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
At any rate, he took a picture of the guy
playing the stand up base and he's like, stand up
bass such a unique instrument.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Love this sound.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
It's just funny to me because I mean, I go
to lots of shows where I would see that, but
Mark Mark doesn't probactly doesn't a lot of rock shows. Yeah,
and it's not good or bad. It's just funny to
me that like that stuck out to him, obviously, because
at the UFO concerted, it's probably not Yeah, when you
go to see Acidjurgals, nobody's playing there. No, But Mike
revealed that he played stand up bass as a youngster.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And you were in a bluegrass band?
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Well band is? It was me and two friends of mine.
I played upright bass, one guy played banjo, one guy
played mandolin. And that's awesome on you know Bill Monroe
is of course I did a lot of his stuff,
father of Bluegrass, Will the Circle Be Unbroken?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And some of the twangy stuff, doing that nitty nitty
gritty dirt band era.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Because it's all like there's three keys to all that stuff.
I mean, it's not complicated. It's a players sing, but
you know what it was complicated?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Agree? But yeah to do well, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Extremely You know what's complicated is moving the upright bass
from one home to another.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Played the harmonica. That is a pain in the rs.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yes, almost enough that it really beats down your enthusiasm
to continue doing gigs.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Try playing a Hammond organ. All right, boredis and boredis
fighting for justice. Bringing our next guest to you, Missy
Matthews from the Steelers audio.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Now we're going miss how are you hi?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm great.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Isn't that great? It's an amazing fun fact.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Oh the letters to me that you guys have no idea?
He's slowly revealing it only takes twenty years. I've become
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Speaker 2 (33:17):
But what is your inscription?
Speaker 5 (33:22):
More meat on that boat?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Missy? Look this this game on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I don't know what the grass is gonna certainly won't
look blue on Sunday, but I hope the field is
in better condition. But maybe I don't. Maybe that's the
one thing that will slow down the Colts. I joked
about it earlier, but this is a jugger, not of
an offense coming in for Mike Tomlins defense at a
time when they're not exactly killing it.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Well, the grass is actually Kentucky bluegrass. And that's why
I know that I did a story on it a
long time ago about how they resaw the field and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Sense a melia can play nine holes on it and
then get strown.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, I will say maybe it will come into a
factor because the Colts have played five home games. They
played two games inside so far. So the only game
they've actually played outside in elements quote unquote elements was
Week three in.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Tennessee and it was maybereeze that day, like they had
no web.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
So, like, you know, maybe some good football weather in
Pittsburgh will will help the Steelers out in terms of
slowing them.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Down, Like you said, I hope.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So, Uh, how do you think the defense responds to
a week where it has just been I mean they've
been dragged through the mud. Uh, And Mike Tomlin starts
a press conference by saying the offense had to be better,
which you know a lot of people didn't love that
that seemed to be his priority. I don't think it
is his priority. The offenses I think should be his priority.
(34:55):
What the offense, Yes, because you're saying be the Bengals
now and just try to outscore people.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Ye, steer into what you can know, but navigating.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
But look, they make the move to bring in Kyle
Duggar and with the Elliot injury, now the secondary is
going to look a lot different.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Tell us what you think it's going to appear to
be on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Well, I don't know exactly what their configuration or scheme
is going to be, but I think it's not even
just like this week. You know, it's the previous week
on a Thursday night, having to wait nine days to
play again and then having the same situation happen. So
I think there's clearly a lot of frustration and want
to and hopefully this is the one that you know,
(35:34):
it's a you know, a taste of some bad medicine
that can help, especially when you know what the challenge
is coming in. I still go back to the Green
Bay game though, like in the first half, they were
they stopped the ball, like they were doing the things
that they wanted to do. It was just you had
to lead and then you gave it up. And I
do agree with Mike.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I don't think coaches like, all right, I'm gonna mention
the offense first, because I care more about what the
offense is doing right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I think.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
I mean, he just he talks, you know, he he
it's like a preamble of everything that's like stuck in
his head as he sat in like a dark room
watching film for the press like twenty four hours. I mean,
he literally comes out of his hole is what's called
it where he watches film to go do that press conference.
It's probably the first time he's like seen daylight and
like actual.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
People and see his shadow.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
What's happened?
Speaker 6 (36:26):
I know not but you know, Aaron Rodgers said it too,
like they can't settle for field goals and they were
barely in the red zone where they wanted to be,
and they had chances, and it was stupid penalties and
just things that you know, we typically have not seen
from the offense necessarily. I know her Big had a
(36:47):
penalty that you didn't like either. That's not the offensive fault,
but I feel personally, but I agree, But I feel
like at that point you knew that this this crew
is just a mess.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yes, they were meeting.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
That's a penalty that they couldn't actually throw because they
didn't throw the flag in the first place. So like,
I don't know, I think you have to expect the
worst sometimes, you know, it just kind of is what
it is. Everybody in that stadium knew that that was
a free play, but those yes, and then they met
about it, but there was nothing they could do about it.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
That was what was hilarious was that they decided to
have Like they're like, guys, you normally we wait to
review stuff till after the game. That was so bad.
I think we should talk about it right now. We
can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But that was bad.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You're grounded just correcting a dog after he pooped on
the carpet, and what did you do?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Look what you did? What did you call? What did
you not call? The poop is there still? But we
can't even clean them.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
So uh.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Offensively, though, I think they're like it's like the inverse,
they are finding another gear. They're getting better each week.
The offensive line. Look, whatever is going on with Broderick
Jones over there? You know, if they have to help
them or not. What they have going on is working
for them. The Sam Malu injury is a little bit
(38:08):
concerning though. How much does that affect the Jumbo package?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Well, I think it does a lot, But I do
think that they have other guys that can come in.
They're clearly going to know. I feel like going into
this game, if they have seventy three or not, and
Spencer Anderson obviously would fill in for him, and then
you have to decide is that Ryan McCollum. You know,
they have Andrea's pete. Who who's going to be the
quote unquote you know, mister eligible jumbo guy. Yeah, but
(38:33):
that's definitely not something they get away from. So I
don't think this isn't like how it happened in the
game where all of a sudden Isaac's out and he
did try to go back in, you know, he's just
that type of guy. But I think they were like, nah,
actually you're you're not We're taking you back out. So
they will have that figured out. And I do think,
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you know, Jalen Warren has been doing good things, but
again it goes back to not having the most experienced
veteran offensive line on the field who happens to help
the center and a tackle. So we'll see what happens.
But I think that at least is something they can
plan for going in And I just think that if
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there's a weak spot on the Colts team, it's their defense.
It's clearly not their offense. So Aaron Rodgers knows and
has seen everything, and I think hopefully that's something they
can exploit because if it has to be where the
offense is carrying the team, then that's what needs to happen.
I think we're all just so used to the defense
having to carry the team because we didn't know who
the quarterback was going to be or what they were
(39:37):
going to do. And it feels like right now it's
a little Warbers.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Missy Matthews from Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Here on the sidelines is Rob King and Max Starks
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Speaker 2 (39:53):
Thanks Missy, Thanks guys. All right, we'll see when we
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