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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Artists have done that. Ariana Grande is one of them.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
At one point she was like, I don't want to
be a white girl anymore, and then like did that
for a little bit and then she was like, never mind,
I'll go back, and then now she's glend.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, she's maybe too white. It was Latino. I don't
know why I thought that. Maybe she's I guess that's Italian.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
I don't know why I.

Speaker 6 (00:20):
Thought that was a size of Starbucks. Justin Timberlake did it?
He graduated from being white dude.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
When Britney Spears wrote in her book that justin Timberlake
saw I can't remember which trapper on the street and
he was.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Like, yo, what's up?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
My dog for shizzled and did all that like that.
That made me laugh so hard because you know he
did that stuff.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
He definitely did total door.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
And then he became an actor and he's all serious,
Oh hey, good to see you, nas.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Brandy Bellman and the DV Morning Show, it was genuine.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh it's genuine, said, oh yeah, poiz fouchiz genuine wine.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
What's up homie?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
And it wasn't Britney, it was like Michelle Williams, oh oh.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
No, no, no, I'm sorry. It is Britney's book.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Michelle Williams did the audio book and she did that
whole line as justin Timberlake in the audio book, and
a lot of people have used that audio.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
Yeah, chis Genuine.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
If you're out there and you don't know who Genuine is,
don't worry. You do know who he is. The Pony song, Yes,
come on ride it.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
People were laughing because of her impression of his black
scent was funnier than him doing it, apparently, so I'll
have to look.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
At that now. They call it what code switching?

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Uh yeah, yeah, hold on, let me see this.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
This should be right here.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
Jay got all excited and said, so, oh yeah, Genuine,
what's up? Homie Genuine walked away. Felicia did an impression
of j oh yeah, shoes genuine.

Speaker 8 (02:15):
No, my god, get out of here.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I just picture him wearing all denim at the time,
like that, the outfit that him and Britney wore at
that one.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Time of the VMAs hair.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
That he made a fatal mistake by allowing that harness
on his last tour to pull his parachute pants tight
enough that you could see the full outline of his
junk and I mean he made the statue of David
look like shack, you know, I mean it was Dan.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yes, there's a reason Brittany never wrote a song about it.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Won't all right? What do you got coming up?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
This is?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
This hour is brought to you by a windownation mostly cloudy,
not as form today's showers and a high of seventy two.
Geddy Lee and Alex Lifsen are reuniting as Rush. That'll
be next summer for twelve dates in seven cities. It's
going to be New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Fort Worth, Cleveland, Toronto.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
And Mexico City.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
And the good news is that the dates are really
spread out, so I think we can expect them to
add more.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
But they're going to be joined by drummer Anika.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Niles and she is from Jeff Beck's band, and it's
going to be called the fifty something Tour. It'll be
the first time that Geddy and Alex have toured together
in eleven years since the finale of Rushes Are forty
tour on August first, twenty fifteen at the Forum in
Los Angeles, and that is where the tour is going
to start.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
On June and seventh.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think this is awesome. I'm very glad they're doing
it while they still can. I think it's very cool
that that Neil Pertz's wife and daughter signed off on
this and said like they're really excited for those guys
to get back out there and play the music. There's
a part of me that thinks they shouldn't call it Rush,
even though Rush existed before Neil. It only became what

(04:28):
Rush became because of Neil. So I almost think they
should be like Rush to judgmentor you know, some like
variation on it or play on words. And those guys
have a good sense of humor. So yeah, but I
guess it's the music of Rush. It's just kind of
weird because it's like Zeppelin. You could never call it

(04:51):
led Zeppelin after Bonham died, right, I mean, you could
go out on tour with Jason, but it wouldn't be it.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I suppose it didn't strike me as offensive or or.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Anything like that.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
It didn't.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
It didn't strike me as wrong to go out as Rush.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Do you guys know the drummer? Are you familiar with her?

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I wasn't never heard of her.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I think it's super cool that there's a girl there, because,
as was pointing out many times, there will at least
be one girl in every rushaurant.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Just like a straight dude fast.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Usually there is.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, it's like the I love you man, mean, like,
there's not a lot of women there.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
But I told you that.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Whenever I was interning at Live Nation, every summer, you'd
go out into the parking lots.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
The only show that was not a bleep show to
go out into the parking lots that I felt like
I found my people and I actually felt good about
my life was Rush because like when you'd go out
into the parking lots for the Jimmy Buffett Show every summer,
you just.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Wanted to die.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
It would just be you know, bankers that were like
super soaking your chest and being liked and everything and then.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Super soaking your chest. You're like vivid image.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
But then when you would go out for like a
Rush show, they would be like do you want something
to eat? Like do you like the band? And you'd
be like, oh my god, I love you.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
And so I would just be like everybody that you
could actually like sit and talk with adorable nerds.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Amazing are they like visibly geeks.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Totally, but so was I and that's why I love them.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, I think the thing that makes Rush like fun
is they have a sense of humor about all of it,
Like they're not like super serious, where some of those
prog rocky bands kind of come off a little too like,
you know, their work is so important, you know, Uh,
They've always just been goofs, which I always appreciated. Yeah,

(06:55):
but it's I think that as far as the drummer
and her talent, Jeff Beck does not hire people that suck,
so like, she must be a monster to be able
to do this stuff.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
It's gonna be really fun to see it.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I went on her socials yesterday and started following her,
and I was watching so many.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Of her videos and I'm I'm too dumb for her.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Like I was watching some of the videos, I'm like,
I can't find the one.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah, some of these I doing.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, it was it was a little it was advanced
for me.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
You knew I was hoping it was gonna be.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Remember you sent me the video of Phil Collin's son
learning the overture to twenty one twelve, and he did
it and like it. He did it in like under
an hour and learned the entire whatever that is eleven
minute overture for twenty one twelve, which is multi part,
multi movements, just the time signature changes all over the place,

(07:51):
and he just nailed it. And I was thinking, like
that kid, Plus he's young, that would be cool. This
seems like an even more inspired.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Choice I think be speaking to And I agree with you.
If it would have been him, it was his name Nick,
I don't know. I can't remember either, but if it
would have been him, I don't think you could have complained.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
About that in any way.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
But there is something about the Neil Peart like legacy
and for how revered he is. That kind of drumming
it you have to be the greatest drummer in the world.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah, like you just there.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You can't. You have to be infallible. So exactly. So
I think she is in that rarefied air where that
kind of drumming. Again, when I was watching the videos yesterday,
I'm like, this is like drumming. I don't even understand
she's German.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Yes, that kind of fits for me. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
There's something very but just something about the discipline.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh yeah, so I think everybody will be pretty happy
with it. But if you if you want to check
her out, it's Anika A n I Ka Niles. And
then the tickets are going to go on sale Friday
at Rush dot com. And again the dates are super
spread out, So there's two dates in Chicago July sixteenth

(09:19):
and eighteenth, New York is July twenty eighth and thirtieth,
Toronto is August seventh and ninth, and then Cleveland is
September seventeenth.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Have they ever done like the symphony thing like Rush
with the Toronto Symphony Orchestra or something, I mean that
would be appropriate they.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Would have, right, Yeah, are you going to go to this?

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Well, the closest one's Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Cleveland's the closest one.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
But the reason why I named Chicago, New York and
Toronto is because of those will feel like, you know,
you can make a trip out of it.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
They're doable. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I would like to go to it, just to pay
tribute to those guys, you know. Yeah, I mean I
have a hilarious lifelong relationship with them, Like I worshiped
them when I was a little kid, you know, up
until like fourteen or fifteen or whatever. And I look
back on something and like my brothers and I think
about listening to Farewell the Kings and just laughing about
the lyrics that we were singing all the time to

(10:16):
Sanna Do and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
You know, was it you or Paulson that saw Gedty
Lee at Spring.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Paulson, Yeah, and he was a jerk to him.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Really.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, he's a diehard Blue Jays fan and apparently it's good.
Had been like, hey, from the Classic Rocks Nation in Pittsburgh,
but you know, you started in Pittsburgh because their first
big concert was opening at the Civic Arena. For it
was a Ted Nugent, I think, but at any rate,
it might not have been ten Nugent. But he brushed
him off completely. Scott was super pissed, like, all right,

(10:49):
screw you. Getty whose name is Gary, but they call
him Getty because his mom called him Getty because of
her accent. Y. Yeah, Gary Wintraub, I think is his name,
Lee said, I believe you don't look it up.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Gary wine Traub sounds like a lawyer.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, indeed, might be why he chose Getty Lee as
a stage name.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, A little cooler.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Alex Lifston apparently really had some kind of like health
I don't know, awakening where he just like eats super
healthy foods.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Because he was a heavy boozer.

Speaker 9 (11:33):
Really he.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like went to some you know, like retreat or something
like that and like relearned how to eat foods and
it's interesting. But yeah, he still looked kind of you know,
not like he's not like a little guy or anything.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
He was.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Retreat like that, but he again, he doesn't look like
a small guy like they did, like an Ina Garten retreat,
just like learning to eat healthier foods and better portions.
Oh okay, and make better selections. But yeah, I think
he is on a major health kick.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Chris tweeted this to me, and I think this is
a salient point. The Rush reunion doesn't feel like a
Kiss style money grab, and that's what I think makes
me excited for this.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
That's very true.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
I hadn't thought of it.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
But it does feel like all they're allowing themselves to
go out and do this because their line of integrity
was so high that they didn't want to do anything
to dishonor what they had done in the past was
like Motley Kruz, like they signed a contract one time.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
They're like, we.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Have a contract that says this is our last tour,
so we can't do it again because there's a contract
we signed it. Which was the most hilarious thing ever,
is if you couldn't just like, hey, who's going to
enforce it? You? It's like Mike Johnson having his kid
follow his porn addiction online. You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
You can't really get in trouble for this. It doesn't
really mean anything.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, this very much does not feel like a money
grab if it's like they're going out to do it
for the fans one more time.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
So that ence Neil definitely needed to go on one
of those retreats.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Oh dude, he apparently had a stroke, multiple strokes.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
I know, he should have told people that so they
stopped like.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, I say they stopped making fun of him.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Well no, I mean they should have put him in
the blue tent or something where like or just.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Man, you know, they should have self policed. I agree, like,
if you have a stroke, like they knew, right.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Motley Crue doesn't seem like the kind of band where.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
They take care of each other.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like where they see like somebody's got a broken arm
and they go, well, we won't play tonight.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Then you could do it with one arm, right, yeah,
def Leopard does it. I remember when that through the
amount of jokes about that guy when that happened, you know,
I was like one of the most remarkable feats ever hands.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Arms. What happened? What is that story?

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Well, he got in a car accident.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, and then the seatbelt cut literally severed his arm off.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
And then you know you're like, oh, well, he's never
gonna drum again, and Rick Allen was.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Like, no, I'm going to And then they designed a.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Kit where he could drum one armed and use his
feet to hit other part. And they also digitized their
whole drum sound significantly. But what he did one arm
was really remarkable.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
He was the Jim Abbott drummers. Yeah, the Pete Gray.
You know Pete Gray, you know Jim Abbit. Everyone talks
about the one arm picture like one he had one hand, right.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, he had most of an arm.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Pete Gray had no arm.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
For the Saint Louis was it browns Kevin like in
the I think like in the fifties and do bat
one handed.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
I mean that's crazy. Did he strike out every single time?

Speaker 3 (15:23):
No, he was pretty good, like good enough that people
know who he was, just.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Like before black people were allowed to.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Play, Yes, of course, yeah, they're like, we'd rather have
a one armed white guy.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Lit old Stumpy get out there and try to swing
with one arm.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Eddie Goodell, you know the Pete Bill Veck put out
the the little person in the lineup the one day
and his number was point five.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Strike zone was tiny, very tiny.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
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Speaker 10 (16:38):
The Steelers defense could get a boost with the return
of cornerback Joey Porter Junior for Sunday's game against the
Cleveland Browns at Akroshurre Stadium. Porter's been out a month
with a hamstring injury, but participated in Monday's bonus practice.
Coming out of the bye week, Porter said definitely. In
terms of returning to game action, he said, yeah, I'm
back for sure. He's not played since suffering that amstring

(17:00):
injury early in the second half of the season opener
at the New York Jets. He returned to practice two
weeks ago in advance of the game against the Vikings
in Dublin, but did not play, but looks like he's
going to be back. Alex high Smith is a possibility
to return. The outside linebacker did individual work on Monday,

(17:20):
did not participate in team drills, but expects to resume
practice a regiment later in the week. He said he
was a little stiff, but confident this would be a
good week of practice. That doesn't mean he's going to
be back, but it does possibly complicate the outside linebacker rotation,
or at least add to it with Nick Herbig having
complication two and a half sacks and seven hits and

(17:40):
was a great two game stretch for him, And you know,
Steelers defensive coordinator Tara Austin said that the Steelers are
not going to limit Nick Herbig just because of how
disruptive he is, so they're going to find ways to
get him on the field. But high Smith, given that
he's got two more years left on his contract at
twenty million plus, when he's ready to return, he's probably
going to be back in the starting lineup.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
But well, I don't know that they're going to be
dropping back to pass a whole lot with Dylan Gabriel. No,
and you probably want high Smith there instead of Herbig.
In terms of playing their strengths defensively.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
Oh yeah, because they're running the ball very effectively, or
at least they were in that Minnesota again.

Speaker 10 (18:16):
Quinshawn Judkins had twenty three carries one hundred and ten yards,
including a thirty two yard run, So yeah, they're but
they're going to want to pressure the passer.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Put some pressure on a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 10 (18:25):
The Steeers also signed linebacker Jack Henderson to their practice squad,
and Adam Schefter reported that they've also are signing running
back kick returner Raheem Blackshear, who spent three years with Carolina,
has two hundred three yards and three touchdowns on his resume,
but maybe more importantly, given the injuries to Jalen Warren
and Calvin Austin, twenty three punt returns in sixty six

(18:46):
kick returns in his career, so it could be a
depth piece there for this many fumbles.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah, I don't know about the fumbles.

Speaker 10 (18:54):
Hopefully he's at least known to recover a yeah nce ball.
As far as the Pirates, they're not really in the news,
but MLB trade rumors did their arbitration projections and the
Pirates have nine players who are arbitration eligible, the one
who stands to make the biggest race. Based on these projections,
and they're not necessarily altogether true projections, but similar to

(19:15):
what is expected. O'Neil Cruz going from seven hundred and
eighty five thousand to three point six million is the projection.
Cruz had a very disappointing season in the sense that
he batted two hundred and led the team with one
hundred and seventy four strikeouts, but he also had eighteen doubles,
twenty home runs sixty one RBIs for a salary of

(19:36):
seven hundred and eighty five thousand, so he's basically making
just above the minimum, and led the team in home
runs and also I think led the National League, was
tied for the National League lead with one Soto with
thirty eight steals, so you know, Cruz is one of
their more productive players.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Even though he had a really rotten second half.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
I think everybody's disappointed in him because they see the potential.

Speaker 10 (19:57):
Certainly, especially the way he started this season. You know,
up until June, he before he got hurt, he was
on you know, a projection at one point to have
a Ronald o' kunya junior MVP type season, and he
looked like he was a guy who could have a
be the first, you know, be a thirty thirty guy
for the first time. You know, Kunya had i think
forty homers and seventy three steals in his MVP year

(20:19):
and Cruz has that type of talent and also was
on that type of projection, So I think people expect
that from him, and it just seems like, you know,
he fell victim to you there were a lot of
things that he fell victim to, but obviously the home
run derby he shined in that and then just you know,
really didn't do much after that. So I think people

(20:39):
see the exit velocities and they see the throws that
you know that he's a stat cast legend already, but
that hasn't really translated to consistent play from O'Neil Cruz.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, it seems too many times these like unbelievable prospects
for the Pirates get caught up in the morass of
futility that the Pirates are engaged in here for how
many years, you know, ten since a playoff appearance. And
I think that that actually wears on these guys when
they think there's no hope and their production slips, because

(21:09):
it's just like the competitive it's like only natural your
competitive nature wanes a little bit when there's not an
actual competition.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
Yeah, and somehow Cruise the year before had figured it
out against lefties and was an everyday player this year.
I think he batted one ten against left handed pitchers,
so he all of a sudden started becoming a bit
of a platoon player with some of the injuries that
he dealt with and everything. But there's a guy the
Pirates really need to get on track. And I think
what it does when you brought up it gives you
a little more even a greater appreciation for Paul schemes

(21:39):
that no matter how hard the Pirates could possibly try,
they can't screw that guy up. He's just yeah, he's
that good. I mean, he's above and beyond what anyone
could have ever expected.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
What were your thoughts about keeping ben Cherrington. I know
you probably liked it because we're far enough down the
track where you at least got to allow him to
finish what he started, even though I don't know what.

Speaker 10 (22:00):
Are are you asking for my professional or personal Personally, personally,
I was glad that they didn't make any major changes
because I'm off for a month today excluded. I didn't
want them to make any changes because I just didn't
want to have to work.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
No.

Speaker 10 (22:13):
I thought that given that there's a possibility of another
labor stoppage after the twenty twenty six season. I didn't
expect them to make any major changes. Thought I thought
if anybody was, their job was really in jeopardy with
Travis Williams, given all the off field incidents that happened
within the tenantses down. From the business standpoint, you could
have justified that move. But I think Bob Nutting's pretty

(22:36):
slow on the trigger when it comes to making firings,
and so it didn't surprise me that Charrington's back.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Deuse keeps laying golden eggs. Yeah, why mess with it.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
But you know, I think Charrington that they didn't fire
him before the trade deadline or before the draft, that
told me that he was coming back if you're going
to let a guy, because the Washington Nationals fired their
GM and their manager, and that they didn't fire Charrington
when they fired Shelton, who Cherrington recommended to bring back.
And I've heard, you know, I've heard some conspiracy theories

(23:08):
from the Pirates players about different things. The one thing
that I heard that I found very interesting was that
the reason the Pirates didn't fire Derek Shelton last August
when they went into a complete tailspin after I think
at the trade deadline, they were fifty five and fifty
two going into the trade deadline. They acquired Isaiah Kinnach Flea,
Brian de la Cruz, and Jalen Beaks. Addressed three different needs,

(23:29):
you know, one in the corner outfield, won a middle infielder,
and the other one a bullpen left left you in
the bullpen. And they just went into complete tailspin after that,
and it made no sense. But that was the season
when they didn't fire Shelton. Then someone said, yeah, they
wanted to bring him back so they could fire him
early the next season and replace him with Don Kelly
because if they had fired him in August, they would
have had to conduct a real manager search, and they

(23:50):
wanted Don Kelly to be the manager. So that came
straight from a player, and I thought that was interesting.
I just think they waited too long to fire they
They could have justifiably fired Derek Shelton before the home opener,
and I think people would have cheered that.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Decision, no question.

Speaker 10 (24:04):
I think I think it was that bad that early
that they knew from the very start of the season.
From the very I heard Pirates Raiders, I wasn't in Miami,
but they said the opening, the opening series in Miami.
They were like, by Sunday, we knew, we knew what
a mess that was going to do. We knew this
season was a lost cause. By the Sunday of the
first series of the season, he just mangled it just well.

(24:25):
And I don't know how much of it was Shelton,
how much of it, you know, was Charrington's influence.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
But well that's the unknown part. Is is he being
handed a lineup card every day?

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Well?

Speaker 10 (24:34):
Yeah, and I and I think that's where maybe don
Kelly kind of pushed back a little bit and said,
you know, for if I'm going to be the manager
of this team, I'm going to do it my way.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
I'm not gonna you know, let me do it.

Speaker 10 (24:42):
And and you know, to Donnie's credit, uh, he said
this from the very beginning, the players said this about
him is he told the players, I got your back.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
And in the second game he managed. Second game manager
gets tossed.

Speaker 10 (24:53):
And Doug Kelly is not He's like, he's like the nicest,
most mild mannered, friendly guy you ever want to meet.
And the game two he gets tossed, and so to
get tossed like sixty times. But he made it very
clear to the players. Let me, let me take the bullets.
You know, I'm gonna stand up there and take it
for you guys. So I think I think.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
That builds some series.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
So all right, what is your predictions here in the
Division series? Yeah, I think we're going to see the Dodgers. Well,
I predicted the Dodgers Mariners World series, so I guess
you have to get to uh it would be Mariners,
Blue Jays, and then Dodgers and Brewers. I still think

(25:37):
the Bluers. You don't see the Phillies or the Yanks
making a run.

Speaker 10 (25:40):
It's hard to come back from. Yeah, two deficit in
the best of five series. That's just that's a really
difficult thing, especially in the Phillies case they lost to
at home and now have to go play at l A.
I mean, they're they're really going to have to rally.
They certainly have the superstars to do it with Harper
Schwerber and Trey Turner. So you're talking about, you know,
MV for striking out with two guys on it last night. Yeah,
but they're two for twenty one in the first two

(26:02):
games of the series and come by and the three
of them, So yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Philly's a wasteland right now, and I love it.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Oh, they're fighting with each other.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
It's nice to see.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
I mean, Philly dropping the game, you know, against the
Jonco's at home, and then the two games.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I mean, we talked to Gene about it. They did
get boned a little bit on that last play, but
like before that, they just didn't want it.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
That whole second half, the Eagles didn't want it. Abby's
got your news coming up. Second half.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Dick van Dyke is about to turn one hundred this
year and he thinks it'd be funnier if he just
died instead.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Top of the hour, I men not second half and
Charlie Batch joining us here when we return talking Steelers Browns.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
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Speaker 5 (27:37):
What's up, truck?

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Hey, good morning? How's everone?

Speaker 5 (27:40):
I mean pretty good? Feeling good the bye.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
We could not have gone better for the Steelers with
all three AFC North foes going down. This puts the
Steelers in a great position here coming out of the
bye but facing an AFC foe on Sunday against the Browns.
And I know that you can speak to this doesn't matter.
Throw away the records, circumstances, none of that matters when

(28:03):
it's Steelers and Browns.

Speaker 12 (28:05):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. And this is a game that
really you don't want to people will call a trap
game because when you look at it, all things are
sliding towards the Steelers at this particular point, and they
can't afford to take this opponent lightly. With the Browns
because again Browns and Bengals off of a short week,
they really have a chance to really put themselves ahead
with two games that they know they should win.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah, and both those teams in bad shape.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Let's start with the Browns now, Dylan Gabriel showed some
promise in Week one as the first time play caller
there in well, not play caller but quarterback for the Browns.
But what kind of things can the Steelers exploit in
his inexperience on Sunday.

Speaker 12 (28:44):
Yeah, they're going to have to take away the running
game because if you can make Dylan Gabriel one dimensional
now it plays into the Steeler's hands. So the crowd
at acting sure is going to have to be a
factor in this particular game. Get them behind the change, hopefully,
get some of those false starts, and if he's now
playing and knowing third long situations with his limited experience
that he had, maybe the Steelers can.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Exploit that well, high Smith coming back certainly helps him
and stopping the run, oh.

Speaker 12 (29:08):
Absolutely, And at all times he's trying to get back
out to this game and he knows obviously with injuries,
but hopefully he can go and if he can, Nick
Herbett is right there. But again, they gave me advantage
of passing. Is there because of his ability to stop
the run?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
What do you think that Arthur Smith is going to
build off of? How do you think he's going to
build off of that Vikings win? Because it seemed like
a very methodical game plan that they executed against Minnesota.
I don't know if that necessarily works against this Cleveland defense,
which is formidable.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 12 (29:40):
And this is this big tight end package that they've
been running. Darnell Washington, he's on the field a lot
more and they've had success in that particular package. So
if they can get maybe Cleveland the lineup in their
big personnel group take advantage of the one on one
on the outside, that's going to be something that they
have to do, knowing that front of Cleveland is tough
to defend.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Well, not having Calvin Austin, I'm not sure what his
status is right now, but that would certainly help if
you had that speedy number two guy out there.

Speaker 12 (30:07):
You're right about that, and right now, maybe this is
the week that we see Roman Wilson because we had
high expectations. Unfortunately he slipped into the dollhouse. He's not
playing as much as you've seeing Bence Tronic. He's earned
those reps, so we'll we see more of him and
obviously Scottie Miller, but one of those three are going
to happen to step up in Calvin Austin's play.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Charlie, what is your take on Friar and Moose's reduced
role in this offense.

Speaker 12 (30:30):
That's shocking to me because I really thought with Arthur's
coming in here, you bring John new Smith, he was
going to be more significant role. That just hasn't happened.
So I go back to just to seeat a week
two and he dropped that corner route that Aaron Rodgers
threw on the second pass play of the game. He
dropped that game. You talk about giving up the field
role block last two weeks ago against Minnesota, at some

(30:54):
point he is you know, all finds are saying he's
in the doghouse, but they hadn't.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Said it yet.

Speaker 12 (30:59):
So we'll see how this week's unfold. But right now
that is one of the headscratches why fire Moves is
not on the field as much.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Another big test for the offensive line again this week, Charlie,
I think we're going to see some more of seventy
four being eligible.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
What do you think?

Speaker 12 (31:17):
Yeah, obviously Miles Garrett is on that side. You know
where he's going to be. He draws a lot of attention.
But again, you can't, you know, draw that much attention
where you're hopefully you know, one on one another area.
So this is going to be something that they're going
to have to minimize that. But again, that big package
that you just talked about, that's something that they're going
to utilize because they've had a lot of success. And

(31:38):
when you had you rush for ninety nine yards in
a manner that Kenned Gaywell did, even though he's mad
at himself for that last carriag for going under one
hundred yards, that's something that you know, you look to
get him at Jalen one and not available this week.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
I mean it would seem to me though, I mean
Jim Schwartz is a really good defensive coordinator and I
think that you can't do exactly what.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
You did against the Vikings. So that you know, the.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Big guy package, the fat guy package that you're talking
about they've had good success with.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
You have to go downfield at some point, Charlie, you.

Speaker 12 (32:08):
Do, and that's exactly what happened in Minnesota, you know.
But they were aggressive in the first two series, but
it wasn't until you hit DK on that big adr
touchdown pad that loosened up that biking deef. That's how
you look at exactly and when you make plays like that,
coordinators now become less aggressive in that manner. So when
you look at Jim Schwartze, his resume says he is

(32:29):
an aggressive play caller. But again, what.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Does that look like?

Speaker 12 (32:32):
Because if you miss and you don't get there with
the blitz, those type of plays happen.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Charlie, were about a month away from the Batch Foundations
in the Pocket event. I had people asking me about
it last week. And this is just a fantastic event
that you guys throw each and every year that not
only highlights the great work that you're doing at the
Batch Foundation, but brings together a really cool group of
steeler VIPs.

Speaker 12 (32:56):
It really does we're excited and we're about a month
away from it. So this is the annual fundraisers that
we have. It's called in the Pocket with Charlie Batsch
and we had pool, we had pool, poker, ping pong.
We even added shuffleboard.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I mean, now, my good, what is.

Speaker 12 (33:12):
It a shuffle board but a cornhole? I'm sorry, yeah,
corn oll. There you have pool, poker, ping pong, and cornhole,
and at this particular point, it brings a lot of
people together. We have all the fans that get an
opportunity to play against, the celebrities and the Steelers that
are all going to be a part of it. We
have a really a list of celebrities that are going
to be a part of it. We're having it November thirteenth,
and we are going to be at the distillery complex

(33:33):
that we're having right there next to Station Square. So
we're excited to showcase that facility there and we are
super excited about it. So if anybody wants more information
about it, they actually can go to Batch Foundation dot
org to see everything in all the different price levels
that are there. So this is obviously forageous funds for
are out of school time and our steam programs, and

(33:53):
we say steam instead of stemmed because we include the aphards.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Well there you go. All right.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Batch Foundation continuing to do just uh outstanding work here
in the Pittsburgh region.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Batchfoundation dot org. Charlie Batch.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
You can hear him on the postgame show with our
on Mike Persuda right here this Sunday after the Steelers
Browns game on your radio Home of the Steelers DVE.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Chuck. Thanks so much, man, We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Appreciate it. Thanks for having mell.

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Speaker 4 (34:30):
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