October 8, 2025 • 48 mins
Álvaro Martín who calls the Spanish radio broadcast for the Steelers joins the show to discuss how the Steelers can take care of the Browns this Sunday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
E.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
We have a little bit of abby nebby neighbor girl.
She noticed that he wasn't on the bus that day,
and so when they got off the bus, she started
grilling him, why aren't you on the bus, And he
started lying, He's like, I forgot my folder. And I go,
you didn't forget your folder? And he just looks at
me and starts nodding. He goes, I forgot my folder.
And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you forgot
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your folder. And she's like, you didn't forget your folder.
You know, she already sees like through the whole thing,
but she tried to get it.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
But I think we'll be okay today after everything.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But it was just it was a it was a
rough That's a rough way to start the morning of
an hour and a half sojourn to to and from
an elementary.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
School trying to deal with that. Again, job well done
by you. I mean, that's a parenting win. But I
also started thinking.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I was like, I think the only reason I'm able
to parent effectively is because my job allows me to, like,
I own my own business, so I can kind of
take that time to do that. If I had to
get to work or face disciplinary messs. I would be
booting him out the door with a deal to shoe
be like I gotta get on the jobs.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Friendy Bellman and the DVE Morning Show. But you guys
are all of that parenting ilk. You guys all parent
in a way that is so different from the way
we were all parented. Because at no point in if
I was a kid whining about I don't when I
go to school today, would there have been any empathy
or an attempt to understand. It would have been like
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none of us want to do anything we have to
do today, Get yours out, get in the car.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
There's something about that. Because you had so many siblings too.
I know that Edie is spoiled because she's the only one.
She gets all of my attention and all of my damage.
My perceived damage is that and and this is of
you know, no surprise to my sister. My sister was
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a handful, and so I my perceived damage is that
I did not get the attention that I needed as
a child.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And so I lobb because Abbie will take care of
it herself. She's she's self sufficient.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Self sufficient both emotionally and otherwise, and so now Edie
gets all of the attention that she needs. So now
the problem is, I think she gets too much attention.
So now I've realized that my gentle parenting and attention
of her is backfired for me in a lot of ways.
So now sometimes I the pendulum swings violently. Where now
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I go, I'll get on the bus, you know, because
like now I realize I'm a little too gentle and
that doesn't work for me either. So now I'm I'm
trying the other the other side of the coin.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I mean, this is a hot take, but number one,
there is no perfect way to parent. And number two,
the mistakes that you make as a parent actually benefit
your kid because then you've got something to figure out
in your life. Like we all have to unravel the
parenting that we received. Regardless of how good we're doing it,
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our kids are going to have problems.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Here's the difference.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
When you guys make mistakes as parents, I think you
own up to it and explain to the kid, hey,
I messed that part up and this is how we
should actually go forward that Yeah, it was like I screwed.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That one up, you know.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Oh well yeahs No.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Repair is definitely important but but I just think that, Like,
you know, my therapist once said you could sit three
kids down say the exact same thing to all three
of them, and you'd get three different interpretations because it's
not necessarily about what you're saying, it's how they're hearing it.
And so there's you know, what you might think is
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perfect is your idea of what it what it would
have been cool to have as a kid. But then
this kid is like I just got It's like, I
have a big problem. I want to talk to the manager.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I like you with a lot of pepper. I like
it with a lot of salt. Like, well, if I
like it with a lot of pepper, she'll like it
with a lot of pepper.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Right, uh huh.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
And so the the the idea of perfect is flawed
from the beginning because it's our preference not theirs, because
we like we have to basically humble ourselves, rip ourselves
back to the studs and be like, okay, what.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Did you need? What are what are your preferences here?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
But Jeff was right in how he was talking about,
you know, his kid didn't want to get on the bus,
And the best thing you can do is.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
Move to mount Lebanon because they don't have busses.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah, exactly, no start there now, But do you almost
have to tear yourself down and remind them that you're
also a person and show them they like get in
the boat, well we should do that crap too. Like
the first thing I thought of, because I did see
Edie doing this, is that she started going to the
nurse for very non urgent things during the school day,
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and I was like, and it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I forgot that I did it.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
But for a long stretch, especially when I was in
like a private Catholic school.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I did it every day.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Oh yeah, like for for a jag there, I did
it every day where.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I was like, what time is it? Oh yeah, this
is when I go to the nurse's office. Because it
was just a thing I did, right, And so at some.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Point, you know, I noticed that she was doing it,
and I said to her, Hey, so yeah, I used
to do that move.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That was like one of my specialties.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
And at the core of it, it was because I
felt like nobody was paying attention to me. Oh so
I and then she stopped because she was I was like,
all it does.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Is you don't get your work line. You don't get your.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Work done and then you got a back up, and
then all it does is like you know, everybody starts
kind of like noticing, and then that people start making
fun of you.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's waste of time.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
Oh you took her all the way to the end
of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, it just kind of blows up your We had
capital punishment in grade school and high school, so I
didn't screw around too much like where you would get spanked,
like there was a person that would spank you, and
there was like a paddle in both places.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Now the person who spanked you, that's not that wasn't
their only job.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, he had a leather mask. It would let him
out of a closet. Zeke, come on out all gag.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, it was the It was the principal in my
middle school that did it.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And I got spanked by one time, and I was like, wow,
he was the I loved the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I thought he was so cool.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
And then when he spanked me because I don't remember
what I did, and I was just kind of like,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's kind of messed up, man, Why are you gonna
hit me like that?
Speaker 8 (06:40):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And then I always kind of felt like weird about him.
After that, how couldn't you?
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Yeah, I mean you got spanked by a stranger.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
And then in high school it was just like you
were constantly ducking like every kind of like the teachers
had carte blanche and just beat us up and it
was kind of funny almost, you.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Know on pencils where they still Yeah, I had to
neilon pencils with bibles no on both hands in front
of the class.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
But it was like you would like make a joke
out of it, like you'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll
do this, and you'd be like easy, this is Catholic. Yeah,
and they would be like, you know, sit there, bou
them in five more minutes. You know, I'd be like
I could do it.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It would be kind of funny in a weird way,
but also you didn't want it. But you get jacked
up against the lockers and stuff like.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That pencils thing literally.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
No, yeah, like it hurts eight pencils like on each Yeah.
I think I remember why I had to do it
for that one. It was because I had we had
those desks that were metal underneath. You could put your
books in a little compartment under the desk, so it
was like a little open air open and I'm like, guys,
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this is like an amplifier, you know, And so like
it was like one of those fart and you could
fart perfect, like if you leaned the right way on it,
it would make it like this huge metallic fart would.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So like I took all the books out of it,
and I only had like.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
A nun I think one year of of the Catholic school,
and it was like super young. I was like six
years old, and I remember she got really frustrated with
me because of how many mistakes I was making and
we were writing with pencils, and so she took my
pencil away from me and cut the eraser off and
then handed it back to me and told me to
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slow down, which was I was like, you could have
also just given me a peg, yeah, which was like weird,
But yeah, I don't have like a There was not
other like tales of abuse. You were afraid of them
for different reasons, but like you know, nobody was like violent.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
The kids don't have to contend with that now, no,
So that that's good. I feel like that's a step
forward my experience. They have much different levels of concern. Yeah,
that we never had to contend. Well, now like it's
no longer. They're no longer in charge, right, Like I'm
I'm dating a teacher and the amount of information that
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she receives just in terms of how she has to
treat the kids is different. Like the parents, I don't
feel like in this generation are on board with giving permission.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
And this is just culturally, I think, like we used
to be like, hey, my neighbor down the street, you
see my kid doing this, like smack them around or
scream at them.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Like that's not happening anymore.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
The parents are yelling at the school for how they're
being taught or not taught or treated or whatever. There
is no more like the teachers have all the.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Power, you know, Yeah, they definitely did when I was
a kid.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I mean that they had no power in my experience,
Like my experience at Rosenstein, absolute nightmare. The teachers were terrified.
I saw a teacher get beat up that is awful,
full blown beat up, carrying like a box of donuts
and just got pump slammed by a dude from Homewood
And all of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
There's just powdered sugar. All It's just a cloud of dust.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
We would like, you know the difference between private and
public school.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
There were some teachers that you would not want to
get mad because they would be they would literally just
smack you. But there are other ones that you would
try to go into getting mad because it would be hilarious.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Oh yeah, watch them out.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh yeah, and they'd fling an eraser at you as
hard as they could, you know, like one of those
big ones, just full of shop.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
They get mad, it was like victory.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, we kind of deserved it.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
As my point.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah, there was a teacher that we were convinced got
struck by lightning because every time it rained it seemed
like she called off and and people would bring it
up to her and she used to flip out about that.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
There was a teacher who got gum thrown in his hair.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Oh dude, our chemistry teacher. Mister how he got He
got a chainsaw kicked back at him and he had
a big scar on his lip because he got he
got hit in the chainsaw and no, no, no, he
literally happened to him and but he grew a mustache
over it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But it had a line like over here because he
can't and can't escape it. He would turn around. This
dude Joz would always be.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
Like this, no, just just try to piss him off,
and he would turn around, keep on a smart blexy Yeah,
you see what happens to you, all right, you know,
and then you can see you're like, okay's he's the
temperature's rising right now.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And then fifteen minutes later, you do it again.
Speaker 11 (11:45):
One more times, one more time, and then by the
end of the class, he's shaking him in his desk
because you're like trapped in the desk. You know, you're
here's funny, and then the rest of us would be dying,
like it's the funniest thing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
In the world. He made you mad.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
Because you're an idiot.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Just the difference between having the private Catholic school experience
and then when I was in sixth grade, we transferred
to Shayler like public school. So you're like right around
twelve and thirteen, oh, the culture shot. But then you're
also like peak jerk, right, your hormones are raging. You're
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starting to like well like you know, push against you know,
any like norms that you have, not only like.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Societally but also your parents.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
You're getting into like, you know, music differently you're finding
your own things. But that was like to your point, Like,
you know, I did not go to a school like Riisenstein,
but like it was the first time I was seeing
fights in school and was being you know, having kids
that like all of a sudden want to kick your.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Ass for some reason or like what the hell.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah exactly. But my favorite like teacher classroom experience was
somebody brought in I don't I don't know how these exist,
like a stink bomb.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
There was a Spanish teacher who was just easily manipulated
and they put the stink bombs on the floor because
she used to walk up and down the aisles like
around the desks, and it was just the tension in
the room of waiting her for her to walk on
this thing and just step on it, and everybody like
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nobody paid attention the whole class, and.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Everybody's just like, oh my gosh, you gonna walk.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Walk around and the whole time she finally stepped on
it and it happens, and then like the whole class
is just a bomb. And the funniest thing about this
woman was that she was a Spanish teacher with a speech.
Speaker 11 (13:47):
Impediment, So she got you guys Spanish with a stutter.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
She couldn't say no in Spanish.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Correct, that's a big deal, and so she would she
rolled then.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
So when she.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
When she stepped on the stink bomb, she went, oh,
I folks, you all think that's really funny.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
You go to restaurants and then you're trying to order
in Spanish and they're like, we have a special menduo.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
You all like baby bods, and I'm always trying to
feed you, but I always have to one neck and
try to make it go.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Now, what the hell is happening?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's a public school and private school, two totally different
experiences completely, yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
And now like it seems like none of that exists.
But also there's crazier.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Things that are happening now than much ever would have
been thinkable when we were in school. Yes, like everything
when we were in school. I can cider more like
petty crimes totally, you know, like smoking weed in the
machine operations class because there was a welding booth that
was really made for like two or three people and
you walk in at aldered ice and see eight sets
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of legs in one booth. All right, Well, I think
I know what's happening in that booth.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, it's a different time. Well, it's suffice to say.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
The whole point of this was to say that I
think you guys all do a great job parenting in
a very very tough time, and you do it the
best way possible, you know, and you're not afraid to
make mistakes. Again, back in the day, people were too
concerned about it wasn't I don't think that parents talked
a lot about parenting, you know, thirty years ago.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
No, But like, my point in all of this is,
I don't know if it's any better. It's certainly different.
It's it's maybe a step above what we had, But
I don't, I don't. I'm not convinced we're not screwing
our kids up just as much.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
In a different way. Well, I mean, I'll ask the phones.
I'll ask you this, Bill.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Do you feel like that as a parent, that maybe
we've taken like the omnipotent, like kind of godlike status
out of what it means to be a parent? Like
do you feel like you speak to your children as
a person instead of like above them so much?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Like, I feel like I I still am an authority
figure to eatie.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I think you have to be.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
But I don't feel like I don't reveal myself, Like
I don't feel like I stand above her so much
that I won't cut down a lot of you know,
the I don't know if I'm explaining this correctly, but
you know, I will be revealing to her and to
kind of be self deprecating in a way so that
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we can relate to each other.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, I try to do that as much as I can,
But I still I still don't listen enough. I still
like I'm I'm still to my of a a a
guidance for them when they don't they don't experience is
really going to be their teacher at this point. I
mean when once they're they're seventeen years old, like you're not,
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they're not letting in any new information. Their life experience
is going to be the only teacher. And that's that's
kind of hard. That's a hard transition for a parent.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
No, there's a couple of things that life just has
to kick yours.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
A lot of my friends are becoming empty nesters like this.
This is the year that a bunch of my friends
became empty nesters and the struggle is real. I mean
it's hurting them. I feel bad for them in a way.
I'm liken't isn't it awesome? Like you're free in a way,
and they're like, Nope.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
No, it sucks. That's a nightmare.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
My sister so much that she, like her three girls
are all now moved on, Like her youngest just she's
going to UCLA yeah, and the older one is already
working in Los ane Angelus and the middle one is like,
I think I'm gonna move there too. So my sister's like,
you know, I'm gonna get just a small place out
there just so I because I want to go.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And I'm like, you're moving.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
There, You're just gonna follow them, like you're not. You're
not gonna stay in Chicago. You're gonna go there because
that's where they are. Like no, I'm not gonna be
one of those moms. And I'm like, what are you
doing this weekend? She's like, I'm going to Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
You're like, oh, okay, well this is this is My
point is that you know, in three generations, it went
from like you know, my grandparents, I don't like neither
of my grandfathers. I don't even believe we're in the
hospital when you know my grandmother had right, my parents
like they were like, all right, we'll meet the kid
in a couple of months and just let me know
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what the name is or whatever. And then you're just like,
all right, don't embarrass me. I hope you don't suck,
but don't don't like, don't trash the family name. And
then the boomers are like, all right, well, we're gonna
step it up a notch from them, and like we're
gonna encourage our kids to be whatever they were gonna
want to want to be. But then that brought its
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own anxiety, and now we're on our kids like co
piloting the whole thing, and we're on their ride now.
And so I'm not saying, like my point is, I
don't know that it's better. It's definitely different, but I
think we're victim of the same thing that every generation is,
which is the arrogance to think that we could fix everything.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Well, the one way I know things are different is
that we followed, especially my dad's lead, in terms of
like this is a watch this movie and you should
do you know what I mean? This is what you
should be watching if we were watching TV would be
kind of like something he wanted, which was always funny.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Uh. And now I think parents like the kids kind
of dictate.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Like music and the like.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
In the TV they run.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
The entertainment on the house show, which was a little
different like when my parents weren't there. Obviously we did,
but when they were it was like we watch what
they wanted to watch.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Yeah, no, house full of adult Yeah no, let's let's
see what Blue's up to.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
What Get Blue the hell out of the house.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
You get out of the house, like everybody get out
of the house.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
But that's what you're.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Involved in it, and you know it, you know what
I mean, Like Mike.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I don't, but I don't know if the self awareness
is doing any good.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
But my mom would be like walk into my room
and see an Iron Maiden poster and be like, oh
my lord, what is that? You know and be terrified
and say a novena, you know it is the devil
is coming for you.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It doesn't like I have an Iron Maiden silk flag
in the garage and she's like, I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm like, well, I don't like you Sometimes.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Get used to it.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
That's Eddie, He's fine. Yeah, don't you worry about it? Yeah, no, Yeah.
The specter of rock and roll, like the old school
trope of like this is the Devil's music was very
much a part of my mom and grandmother, like their
concerns for their her grandkids. My grandmother was so convinced,
and she was like a wild, crazy Irish but she
thought that because the preachers told her that rock and
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roll was ruining our souls, which only made us all
dig in even more.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I've told you before.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
She made us listen to the tapes of led Zeppelin
back Masking and she's like, they are giving you secret
devil messages. And if you've ever heard that, you know,
the back masking on Stairway to Heaven, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Like sweet Satan, power Satan. It's like so indiscernible.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And even at that age we were like, Grammy, you
know you would have to do how hard it would be.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
To write a song so that it said Satan backwards.
It's just happening though you don't understand. They're not trying,
and it's just implicit because it's the Devil's music.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You know, Like I don't know, you get hammered and
smoke cigarettes and play Jim Rummy all day to be
like maybe there's something in there you should investigate. Anyways,
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Speaker 7 (22:08):
I really think it's going to be a barn burner.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Barn burner would indicate like a high scoring back and forth.
I think it's going to be like high tension sixteen.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
To twelve okay, competitions learning them.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That's kind of what I think.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
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the cover of Hockey News. Penguins get Anthony Matha, so
you know.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
I'm manta.
Speaker 15 (24:07):
They had a bunch of transactions like that, but it
added up to three nothing.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
For openers last night.
Speaker 15 (24:14):
The Pens didn't necessarily make a statement against Mike Sullivan's
Rangers at Madison Square Garden, but they established a baseline
that's encouraging moving forward. Here's the new head coach, damn Use.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I think they uh, I think they were ready to
show up when they one, So I thought they I
thought they to a man, I thought they did. They
did a great job. You know, I thought, uh for
the first game of the season. I just like the
fact that, you know, the walk out of there, we
get the job done. But you know, you can look
around the locker room and really feel like, you know,
to a man, everybody did something there to contribute tonight.
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And so yeah, if we're going to start that way,
and that's going to be the base we're going to
build off of. Like that's what I learned tonight. I'm
excited about building with these guys.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
I don't think that lineup would have looked anywhere near
what it was last night if Sally was still the coach.
I think that these veteran coaches lean towards the veterans
and they've been there, done that guys. I mean Sullivan
when he first came in. That's one of the shining
examples of why it worked early on.
Speaker 15 (25:19):
Yeah, but you know, he coached all those guys at
Wilkesbury and then he played him. Why he went away
from that is beyond me, because he won cups doing
that and then he got to a point where he
didn't trust young guys anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Well, I don't know he'd have a choice with this
lineup right now.
Speaker 15 (25:34):
Well that's a good point too. What really struck me
about that game and just listening to damn use leading
up to it, listening to a few interviews. I didn't
go to any practices or anything in training camp. But
this is a team that's gonna have to do it
by the numbers. You know, Penguins fans got used to
for a number of years, and when I say a
number of years, I mean decades. Okay, they screwed that up,
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but the star power is such that somebody will just
do upting magical and that'll make up for it. Well,
you don't have magical anymore, so you can't get stuff away.
You got to play the game by the numbers. You
got to do it like all those other slobs have
been doing it all that. You know, it's not gonna
be pretty, it's not gonna be real exciting, but it's
gonna be a you know, a game by game, period
(26:19):
by period, shift by shift battle to just don't screw
it up first and foremost, and then see if you
can be opportunistic. And that's what they were on the
face off play last night. The Rangers screwed up the
defensive bummers left the guy wide open.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
In front of the goal, and he scored. Uh justin Brazil.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
I mean, an easy way for us to learn your
name is score a couple of goals.
Speaker 15 (26:42):
Yeah, then he got an empty netter and they got
another empty nettter. But uh yeah, it's they're just gonna
have to work for their for their wins, and they're
gonna have to play the right way.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Another sullivanism.
Speaker 15 (26:52):
Right, they stopped doing that a long time ago too,
Maybe they can start again.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
It's fun to watch.
Speaker 15 (26:58):
And the goalie, Uh full marks to dann Use for
starting Archer's Sea lobs. That crazy Latvian kid.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Didn't we eat Sea Lobs over in Dublin.
Speaker 9 (27:10):
We did. Yeah.
Speaker 15 (27:11):
Appetizer home opener and Thursday night against the Islands are
runs way pretty encouraging stuff from the Pens. Mike Tomlin
is encouraged about the possibilities of Alex Highsmith, Joey Porter,
and Jalen Warren playing Sunday against Cleveland. Really encouraged is
how Tomlin categorized what he's anticipating from those guys. Calvin
(27:35):
Austin and Jalen Ramsey are banged up. Tomlin said yesterday
he's quote encouraged about the potential of those guys, but
we'll take it certainly day by day.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
That means nothing. I wouldn't count on seeing out of
one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I actually don't want but to see them.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I mean, I do want to see them, but I
don't want to rush them back to get them healthy.
We should be able to win this game without them
this weekend. Not that it will be easy, no, but
we still should be able to win the game.
Speaker 15 (28:00):
Not that it would be easy with them, but yeah,
I agree with all of that. Interesting in the Cleveland's
defense is really good. Minnesota's defense was really good. And
Minnesota's kind of signature under Brian Flores is the amount
of different schematics and how diverse and complicated and potentially
confusing it is for the other team.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Cleveland just lines up and hitching the face.
Speaker 15 (28:25):
Miles Garrett has gotten some pub over the years for
moving up and down the line. I was real interested
in seeing how he played against the Vikings. He was
on right defensive end almost the entire time, played a
few snaps on the left, but almost always on the right.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
I expect that again this week.
Speaker 15 (28:43):
And when he did go to the left, he stayed there.
It wasn't like a down by down Where's Waldo.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Thing, which I think he's going to be playing a
game called Where's bro Derrek?
Speaker 15 (28:52):
Yeah, but you know what, he was playing Darisol against
the Vikings, who's a really good left tackle, and he
stayed there, and he was winning more than he was losing.
I mean, he was getting chipped and he was getting
double teamed.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
This is where our forty one year old quarterback becomes
a concern to me.
Speaker 15 (29:08):
That's more chuck and duck man, and it's critical to
run the ball and stay out A third and long
got to stay ahead of the chains again.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, yeah, assuming Jalen Warren is healthy enough to go,
which it looks like that's the case. And given what
you saw from Kenneth game well and his ability to
you know, be more than one dimensional, which is how
we had him painted prior to that, we being us.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Yeah, yeah, that dealer is there.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You know, I think they might be able to pound
them enough to finally make a dent in the running game.
It might not happen right away, but you gotta stick
with it. Might be ten to seven with a bunch
of punts, well that's what I said, sixteen to twelve
or something. You know, it's like you got and you
gotta keep doing it. And it's not the most fun
way to watch the game.
Speaker 15 (29:55):
But hunting is not a bad thing in this game.
Turning it over is bad. Third and sixteen is bad.
It's like the.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Most damaged You feel like the Browns will be able
to do will be defensively because they might be able
to get a turnover or force field position flip and
you know what I mean, Like, I'm not worried when
they have the ball in their own end. As much
as I am, I'm concerned about whether or not they
can run it, because if they can, yeah, of course,
I don't know. Man, give like Cole Holcom has stepped
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up big time. But you know Harmon being in there
and being one week more acclimated and he's a bleep
disruptor from the ghetto.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
And also.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Which m call it, Keanu Benton like showing that he
can career.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
There's something to affect the game, and maybe they use
him a little bit differently than just being like, well,
you're a nose tackle, take on a double team.
Speaker 15 (30:53):
He can't well, and you know he doesn't have to
as often with Harmon and Hayward out there.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Right.
Speaker 15 (30:59):
Yeah, that's what Cleveland's got going on, not just Garrett,
but their draft pick out of Michigan, Mason Graham, really
good defensive tackle, and he gets a lot of double teams.
And then Garrett gets chipped by the tight end and
maybe chip by the back, and then he's got to
go through an offensive line and sometimes he gets double teams.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
How many players Darnel Washington gonna get on Sunday?
Speaker 9 (31:20):
Whole bunch, Yeah, whole bunch.
Speaker 15 (31:23):
The other thing that's interesting about Cleveland's defense is they
have two really good corners Denzel Ward, who is by
far the best one, and then Greg Newsom's really good.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
They play left and right, they.
Speaker 15 (31:32):
Don't follow, and they did the same thing that justin
Jefferson wherever whoever's got him has him. He had another
one hundred yard game and made some ridiculous catches.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Those guys both had big games, Addison and Jefferson. Against
those two, I really thought they were gonna slow them
down more than they did.
Speaker 15 (31:49):
Jefferson did most of his damage out of the slot.
The slot guy's number twenty six harden In like regular nickel,
and then number five is this safety nickel when they
go three safeties and both of those guys can be
so if they put DK out of the slot again
as much as they did against Jenkins, is the safety
number five?
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Yeah, DK got to meet the slot, all.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
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good morning buddy, how are you very very well?
Speaker 17 (34:41):
Gentlemen, last time I saw you, you were smiling. You
were sort of in a haze in a rooftop of
the Fitzpatrick Pub in Dublin, Ireland, and your your greens
went from ear to ear.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
That's all I have to say.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, we were drunk.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Yeah, I just want to say that. I didn't want
to say that.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Thank you, still smiling even when you bring it up.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, just the memory of that one brings back the smiles.
Because the Steelers got out of there with a win.
Plus that. I mean, we have been talking about it NonStop,
and even though we're ten days out from that, it
bears repeating how amazing that scene was at Croke Park.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
You know, I had conversations with people.
Speaker 17 (35:21):
Obviously I kind of cover the international side of things
a little bit more than you guys would. But the
NFL can always go to a country that's big, huge
and try to activate that market. But if you go
and I'm going to quote what happened in South Paulo, if.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
You go to a city where the team tells.
Speaker 17 (35:38):
You do not leave the hotel, it's just kind of
like not safe, do not leave the hotel at all
for any reason.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
And so you come in you land, go.
Speaker 17 (35:47):
To the hotel, go to practice, back to the hotel,
game over, you get in the flight, you fly back.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Were you there?
Speaker 17 (35:53):
Did your players get to see that city? Will they
be looking forward to the next international trip? Dublin was
a great city that way, Yeah, fabulous, fabulous and welcoming.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Uh spoke the same language that always helps God.
Speaker 17 (36:10):
And well, I remember seeing on Saturday afternoon seeing Cam
and Roderick Jones walk the streets of Dublin, and I
think that's what the league wants in the end to
some extent.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, watched with Skyler Thompson. But yes, well that was
on Friday night.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Yeah, we don't know the details of that.
Speaker 17 (36:30):
We'll never know maybe, but hopefully he's doing all right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, I think he's doing okay.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
One thing you said to us then was first down
was going to be a big signifier for how things
would go for the Steelers on both offense and defense.
And all of a sudden they did become, you know,
run disruptors there with ken O Benton and Derek Harmon
having big days and the secondary came up big too,
But really the play of that defensive line, we're going
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to need that against the Browns on Sunday.
Speaker 17 (37:00):
Oh, without a doubt. You know, the rookie running back
is just getting started. The As Mike Tomlins said earlier
this week, the interior of that line is as good
as it gets in the NFL. I think the edges,
the tackles are a little bit ifsy, but those guards
and center devastating The difference I think has been Derek Harmon.
That double team that would sweet Keanu off his spot
(37:23):
is a little harder to play when you've got to
deal with Harmon, and Keano then becomes what he really
is built to be, which is say penetrator and disruptor.
To hold a point of attack with his weight in
his body size is to ask him to do something
he really it's the second or third best thing he
can do. You're gonna put him in a very difficult spot.
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But with Harmon there, in the moment Harmon shows up,
Keanu was released. That's Keano.
Speaker 8 (37:49):
That's what he can do. And it's a beautiful thing
to see.
Speaker 17 (37:52):
Not that Derek simply holds the point of attack and
just does nothing, but imagine against the double team, he
breaks through laps at balls, Perry's quarterbacks, sacks quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Against the double team. That's really unusual.
Speaker 17 (38:08):
So you've got him, You've got Can on the other
side out in the middle, and then you've got the
Shawn Elliott, who is the best surest tackling in the
Steelers possibly in the NFL. The quarterback of that secondary.
He barks at people all the time.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
He's very vocal.
Speaker 17 (38:24):
He came over with us to Mexico and a visit,
and you can tell that he's he kind of he
sees an environment, he aims to control it. He aims
to sort of set it right in his view. And
that's the kind of player he is. And add to that,
he's the best tackler, and then you begin to see
how the job of the line defensive line is so
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good that the guys in the tackling list that shoot
up on that list are the linebackers. And that's when
you know Pitcher's doing really well. So it's a joy
to watch. Now they're going to give up yards. This
team is going to give up yards for a lot
of different reasons. Particularly I think that the secondary doesn't
have any speedster to keep up with a speeding wide receiver,
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so they're gonna give up yards.
Speaker 8 (39:09):
But I think when the when, when the when?
Speaker 17 (39:11):
Things get tight in that red zone and this here's
gonna always be pressuring you.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
They are going to take the ball away from you.
Speaker 17 (39:19):
As they they have in the last couple of games
and will probably continue to do so. So it's just
a fun group. It's a very different tempo of a defense.
They blitz about a third more than they did last year.
In other words, they're back to what they were in
the nineties and early odds. But they're gonna give up
yards and so you need to deal with that as
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a fan. The ball's gonna move you just you just
know that this is gonna be there when it counts,
and maybe take the ball away.
Speaker 15 (39:47):
Alvar of Calvin Austin doesn't play. How do you see
them reacting to that?
Speaker 8 (39:52):
Uh?
Speaker 15 (39:53):
Roman Wilson gets his chance. More tight ends, more running
the ball. What's what's what's the POTENTI fix without Austin.
Speaker 17 (40:02):
I'd like to see where this jumbo package goes, because
it's a double edged sword. If it gets you six
yards per play on a running play, great right, third
and short, that's when Aaron can be devastating, devastating third
and short. You're asking, you're putting Aaron in the best
spot possible to recavoc.
Speaker 8 (40:21):
On the other hand, you're taking away.
Speaker 17 (40:23):
The possibility of exploding, which you can anyway, because the
line won't hold the line for Aaron to really step
back and have time to throw and watch rest develop.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
So it'd be.
Speaker 17 (40:33):
Interesting to see how much they use they use that
tactic because I think it's a bit of a crutch.
It's effective, it's great, it can lead to great things, but.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
It requires a lot of plays.
Speaker 17 (40:44):
It requires a series of eight, ten, eleven plays, and
you know at some point someone's going to screw up.
You get a penalty and they're you know, incomes to
punting teams now, in terms of Calvin and the offense,
they don't have time to throw. I think you have
two point sixteen seconds to throw on average in Dublin.
Speaker 8 (41:01):
I mean, it's just.
Speaker 17 (41:02):
Gonna be a lot of screens, a lot of routes,
zero route throes, right to the sideline real quick and
then do your thing.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
In other words, Calvin's ability to stretch the field is.
Speaker 17 (41:16):
Limited because the ball's not gonna not gonna be held
enough for him to separate and really go deep. So
it's to me, you won't miss him as much as
far as Rowan goes. And he apparently is the one
of the two players that Mike Thomas mentioned would be
the one.
Speaker 8 (41:31):
Thinking up the slack. He's a great guy in Michigan.
I think eighty nine.
Speaker 17 (41:37):
Of the passes that he received produce a first down.
Think about it, nine out of ten, whether it was
a third down or nine. I mean, he's terribly effective
that way. But Aaron Rodgers is a different quarterback, and
with Aaron you have to be literally sort of teleporting yourself.
Your mind and his have to meld. And if you
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don't follow your instincts, don't do what Aaron.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
Sees, he won't throw you a ball.
Speaker 17 (42:05):
And so I think I think Roman's challenge is to
really get into the mind of Aaron. Asked him, Hey,
this situation that this happened. What are you looking at?
What am I looking at? We need to get on
the same page the moment they do. I think he's
going to be effected. I hope it happens a Sunday.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Do you think that he's gonna leap frog John U
and Mooth? Because to me, there's a lot of meat
left on that bone. I mean that those guys are
not getting involved in the way that we all expected
at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 17 (42:35):
Clearly, and that's been a bit of a surprise, but
it comes from the line not being.
Speaker 8 (42:39):
What they thought that it would be.
Speaker 17 (42:41):
And so now you have to bring Darnell on just
about every play, forty eight plays in Dublin, and then
you got to bring in Spencer or nineteen place, and
it cuts down the reps for Bryan with about fifteen.
I mean, guy, you're paying fourteen million dollars a year
with fifteen places in the game and a guy who's
capable of catching balls really not catching having a lot
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of targets. So I think my thought is it depends
on what Arthur wants to do and what he believes
the matchup will be against the Browns. One thing about
the Browns. Greg Newsom normally thought of by Pittsburgh fans
because they they see him twice a year as a
pretty good corner. It's having a tough year and he's
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being targeted, and so it'd be interesting to see there's
a guy where you think, depending on your lineup, you
could find a matchup that says, okay, let's go after
him with fire mouths. Let's go after him with John
and see what happens. So I think the matchups will
dictate how much they play.
Speaker 8 (43:38):
One thing about.
Speaker 17 (43:39):
Fought Friar Moose with a notable, huge and terrible exception
of having that field goal blocked in Dublin when you just.
Speaker 8 (43:48):
Whiffed, he just forgot we have to block. He's blocking
the best he's blocked in the NFL.
Speaker 17 (43:54):
He according to some people who track these things, he's
a second or third best pass blocker and run blocker
for the Steelers this year.
Speaker 8 (44:03):
That's incredible because that's not what he's known for.
Speaker 17 (44:06):
But I think he senses that if I want to
be on the field and they're not going to throw
me passes or as many as I thought I would be, then.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
I better do something.
Speaker 17 (44:16):
And I think it has to be noted that bad fine,
with the great, notable exception of that whiff on that
field goal, is actually blocking the best he's blocked in
the NFL in his career. And good for him. I
mean he needs to show that. I think there's a
lot of doubt that you can do that. We'll keep
doing it, and you'll they'll keep putting them on the field.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
LaVar Martin, the Spanish broadcaster host of l podcast in Macilado,
And do you think we're going to end up in
Mexico City in the future.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Yes.
Speaker 17 (44:44):
And the conundrum for the Steelers right now is things
went so well in Dublin. They've got Germany as a
global market, yeah, and of course they've got Mexico as
their long standing global market. The game in Dublin was
moved from Mexico City. That game was meant to be
played this year in Mexico City. AFC teams like the
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Steelers can move a home game on odd numbered years,
so the next time would be twenty twenty seven. I
don't think an NFC team would be foolish enough in
twenty twenty six to bring in Pittsford as a visiting team,
because it'll be a Steels home game.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
Yeah, So I think it would have to wait.
Speaker 17 (45:23):
The question in twenty twenty seven is Mexico because it's two,
or Germany because it hasn't had one, or Dublin because
we want to keep it going and we had such
a great time. So I think the answer to that
question will be Mexico has to kind of get its
act together. The people that own the stadium. It's the
largest TV network in Mexico. They have an exclusivity deal
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with the NFL. They can't move the game to another
stadium anywhere in Mexico. It's that statum or bust. We've
had two incidents now where the city wasn't ready for
an NFL game and you can't move the game in Mexico.
So they've got to get their act together and they
need to be welcoming to the NFL. I mean, I
think Dublin said a high standard. It's a smaller city,
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of course.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
But Dublin was one hundred percent ready for so I
mean that was as you you know, colored it earlier.
I mean, it was like just walking into the biggest
here we go. It's an NFL weekend and it was
just in another country. And embrace the international feel of
that while still retaining the vibe of an NFL Sunday
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is something that I'll never forget.
Speaker 8 (46:32):
Absolutely.
Speaker 17 (46:33):
And the city small, They've got about a million people
in city limits surrounded by countryside.
Speaker 18 (46:39):
It's really tightly yeah, you know, laid out, but the
bars were activated, the colors were there, Yeah, murals activated.
People knew in Ireland, people knew the best thing I
took away.
Speaker 8 (46:52):
As I'm checking out of my hotel twenty five.
Speaker 17 (46:54):
Minutes away from downtown, a young lady checking us out said,
I said, you watched foot goes, Oh, yeah, yeah, and who.
Speaker 8 (47:02):
Do you watch?
Speaker 17 (47:02):
He goes, Why you watch the Steelers? I said, But
how casually? She goes, Well, I used to watch them
cash I knew they were coming. But now that they're
here and I know that's seeing a couple of games, I.
Speaker 8 (47:14):
Root for them. They're the underdogs. They don't get anything easy.
We relate to that. I'm a Steelers fan.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 9 (47:23):
Come on, I love that.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Alvaro, thank you so much for your time, man, appreciate it,
and I hope we're talking soon. You bet Okay, all right,
we'll see Alvarro Marti from the l podcast in Maculado
and podcast and I believe that that's exactly what it means. Sure,
well done, Mike, Oh Mike, Well.
Speaker 7 (47:45):
Let's hope he's calling another one.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Let's hope he's calling another one like this.
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Speaker 15 (48:19):
You Don't know what the hell he said, but I
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play to the end and noticing the downfield block and.
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Speaker 3 (00:03):
We have a little bit of abby nebby neighbor girl.
She noticed that he wasn't on the bus that day,
and so when they got off the bus, she started
grilling him, why aren't you on the bus, And he
started lying, He's like, I forgot my folder. And I go,
you didn't forget your folder? And he just looks at
me and starts nodding. He goes, I forgot my folder.
And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you forgot
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your folder. And she's like, you didn't forget your folder.
You know, she already sees like through the whole thing,
but she tried to get it.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
But I think we'll be okay today after everything.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But it was just it was a it was a
rough That's a rough way to start the morning of
an hour and a half sojourn to to and from
an elementary.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
School trying to deal with that. Again, job well done
by you. I mean, that's a parenting win. But I
also started thinking.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I was like, I think the only reason I'm able
to parent effectively is because my job allows me to, like,
I own my own business, so I can kind of
take that time to do that. If I had to
get to work or face disciplinary messs. I would be
booting him out the door with a deal to shoe
be like I gotta get on the jobs.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Friendy Bellman and the DVE Morning Show. But you guys
are all of that parenting ilk. You guys all parent
in a way that is so different from the way
we were all parented. Because at no point in if
I was a kid whining about I don't when I
go to school today, would there have been any empathy
or an attempt to understand. It would have been like
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none of us want to do anything we have to
do today, Get yours out, get in the car.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
There's something about that. Because you had so many siblings too.
I know that Edie is spoiled because she's the only one.
She gets all of my attention and all of my damage.
My perceived damage is that and and this is of
you know, no surprise to my sister. My sister was
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a handful, and so I my perceived damage is that
I did not get the attention that I needed as
a child.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And so I lobb because Abbie will take care of
it herself. She's she's self sufficient.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Self sufficient both emotionally and otherwise, and so now Edie
gets all of the attention that she needs. So now
the problem is, I think she gets too much attention.
So now I've realized that my gentle parenting and attention
of her is backfired for me in a lot of ways.
So now sometimes I the pendulum swings violently. Where now
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I go, I'll get on the bus, you know, because
like now I realize I'm a little too gentle and
that doesn't work for me either. So now I'm I'm
trying the other the other side of the coin.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I mean, this is a hot take, but number one,
there is no perfect way to parent. And number two,
the mistakes that you make as a parent actually benefit
your kid because then you've got something to figure out
in your life. Like we all have to unravel the
parenting that we received. Regardless of how good we're doing it,
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our kids are going to have problems.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Here's the difference.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
When you guys make mistakes as parents, I think you
own up to it and explain to the kid, hey,
I messed that part up and this is how we
should actually go forward that Yeah, it was like I screwed.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That one up, you know.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Oh well yeahs No.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Repair is definitely important but but I just think that, Like,
you know, my therapist once said you could sit three
kids down say the exact same thing to all three
of them, and you'd get three different interpretations because it's
not necessarily about what you're saying, it's how they're hearing it.
And so there's you know, what you might think is
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perfect is your idea of what it what it would
have been cool to have as a kid. But then
this kid is like I just got It's like, I
have a big problem. I want to talk to the manager.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I like you with a lot of pepper. I like
it with a lot of salt. Like, well, if I
like it with a lot of pepper, she'll like it
with a lot of pepper.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Right, uh huh.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
And so the the the idea of perfect is flawed
from the beginning because it's our preference not theirs, because
we like we have to basically humble ourselves, rip ourselves
back to the studs and be like, okay, what.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Did you need? What are what are your preferences here?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
But Jeff was right in how he was talking about,
you know, his kid didn't want to get on the bus,
And the best thing you can do is.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
Move to mount Lebanon because they don't have busses.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah, exactly, no start there now, But do you almost
have to tear yourself down and remind them that you're
also a person and show them they like get in
the boat, well we should do that crap too. Like
the first thing I thought of, because I did see
Edie doing this, is that she started going to the
nurse for very non urgent things during the school day,
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and I was like, and it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I forgot that I did it.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
But for a long stretch, especially when I was in
like a private Catholic school.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I did it every day.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Oh yeah, like for for a jag there, I did
it every day where.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I was like, what time is it? Oh yeah, this
is when I go to the nurse's office. Because it
was just a thing I did, right, And so at some.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Point, you know, I noticed that she was doing it,
and I said to her, Hey, so yeah, I used
to do that move.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That was like one of my specialties.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
And at the core of it, it was because I
felt like nobody was paying attention to me. Oh so
I and then she stopped because she was I was like,
all it does.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Is you don't get your work line. You don't get your.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Work done and then you got a back up, and
then all it does is like you know, everybody starts
kind of like noticing, and then that people start making
fun of you.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's waste of time.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
Oh you took her all the way to the end
of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, it just kind of blows up your We had
capital punishment in grade school and high school, so I
didn't screw around too much like where you would get spanked,
like there was a person that would spank you, and
there was like a paddle in both places.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Now the person who spanked you, that's not that wasn't
their only job.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, he had a leather mask. It would let him
out of a closet. Zeke, come on out all gag.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, it was the It was the principal in my
middle school that did it.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And I got spanked by one time, and I was like, wow,
he was the I loved the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I thought he was so cool.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
And then when he spanked me because I don't remember
what I did, and I was just kind of like,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's kind of messed up, man, Why are you gonna
hit me like that?
Speaker 8 (06:40):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And then I always kind of felt like weird about him.
After that, how couldn't you?
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Yeah, I mean you got spanked by a stranger.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
And then in high school it was just like you
were constantly ducking like every kind of like the teachers
had carte blanche and just beat us up and it
was kind of funny almost, you.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Know on pencils where they still Yeah, I had to
neilon pencils with bibles no on both hands in front
of the class.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
But it was like you would like make a joke
out of it, like you'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll
do this, and you'd be like easy, this is Catholic. Yeah,
and they would be like, you know, sit there, bou
them in five more minutes. You know, I'd be like
I could do it.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It would be kind of funny in a weird way,
but also you didn't want it. But you get jacked
up against the lockers and stuff like.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That pencils thing literally.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
No, yeah, like it hurts eight pencils like on each Yeah.
I think I remember why I had to do it
for that one. It was because I had we had
those desks that were metal underneath. You could put your
books in a little compartment under the desk, so it
was like a little open air open and I'm like, guys,
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this is like an amplifier, you know, And so like
it was like one of those fart and you could
fart perfect, like if you leaned the right way on it,
it would make it like this huge metallic fart would.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So like I took all the books out of it,
and I only had like.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
A nun I think one year of of the Catholic school,
and it was like super young. I was like six
years old, and I remember she got really frustrated with
me because of how many mistakes I was making and
we were writing with pencils, and so she took my
pencil away from me and cut the eraser off and
then handed it back to me and told me to
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slow down, which was I was like, you could have
also just given me a peg, yeah, which was like weird,
But yeah, I don't have like a There was not
other like tales of abuse. You were afraid of them
for different reasons, but like you know, nobody was like violent.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
The kids don't have to contend with that now, no,
So that that's good. I feel like that's a step
forward my experience. They have much different levels of concern. Yeah,
that we never had to contend. Well, now like it's
no longer. They're no longer in charge, right, Like I'm
I'm dating a teacher and the amount of information that
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she receives just in terms of how she has to
treat the kids is different. Like the parents, I don't
feel like in this generation are on board with giving permission.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
And this is just culturally, I think, like we used
to be like, hey, my neighbor down the street, you
see my kid doing this, like smack them around or
scream at them.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Like that's not happening anymore.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
The parents are yelling at the school for how they're
being taught or not taught or treated or whatever. There
is no more like the teachers have all the.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Power, you know, Yeah, they definitely did when I was
a kid.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I mean that they had no power in my experience,
Like my experience at Rosenstein, absolute nightmare. The teachers were terrified.
I saw a teacher get beat up that is awful,
full blown beat up, carrying like a box of donuts
and just got pump slammed by a dude from Homewood
And all of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
There's just powdered sugar. All It's just a cloud of dust.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
We would like, you know the difference between private and
public school.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
There were some teachers that you would not want to
get mad because they would be they would literally just
smack you. But there are other ones that you would
try to go into getting mad because it would be hilarious.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Oh yeah, watch them out.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh yeah, and they'd fling an eraser at you as
hard as they could, you know, like one of those
big ones, just full of shop.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
They get mad, it was like victory.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, we kind of deserved it.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
As my point.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah, there was a teacher that we were convinced got
struck by lightning because every time it rained it seemed
like she called off and and people would bring it
up to her and she used to flip out about that.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
There was a teacher who got gum thrown in his hair.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Oh dude, our chemistry teacher. Mister how he got He
got a chainsaw kicked back at him and he had
a big scar on his lip because he got he
got hit in the chainsaw and no, no, no, he
literally happened to him and but he grew a mustache
over it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But it had a line like over here because he
can't and can't escape it. He would turn around. This
dude Joz would always be.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
Like this, no, just just try to piss him off,
and he would turn around, keep on a smart blexy Yeah,
you see what happens to you, all right, you know,
and then you can see you're like, okay's he's the
temperature's rising right now.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And then fifteen minutes later, you do it again.
Speaker 11 (11:45):
One more times, one more time, and then by the
end of the class, he's shaking him in his desk
because you're like trapped in the desk. You know, you're
here's funny, and then the rest of us would be dying,
like it's the funniest thing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
In the world. He made you mad.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
Because you're an idiot.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Just the difference between having the private Catholic school experience
and then when I was in sixth grade, we transferred
to Shayler like public school. So you're like right around
twelve and thirteen, oh, the culture shot. But then you're
also like peak jerk, right, your hormones are raging. You're
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starting to like well like you know, push against you know,
any like norms that you have, not only like.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Societally but also your parents.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
You're getting into like, you know, music differently you're finding
your own things. But that was like to your point, Like,
you know, I did not go to a school like Riisenstein,
but like it was the first time I was seeing
fights in school and was being you know, having kids
that like all of a sudden want to kick your.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Ass for some reason or like what the hell.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah exactly. But my favorite like teacher classroom experience was
somebody brought in I don't I don't know how these exist,
like a stink bomb.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
There was a Spanish teacher who was just easily manipulated
and they put the stink bombs on the floor because
she used to walk up and down the aisles like
around the desks, and it was just the tension in
the room of waiting her for her to walk on
this thing and just step on it, and everybody like
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nobody paid attention the whole class, and.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Everybody's just like, oh my gosh, you gonna walk.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Walk around and the whole time she finally stepped on
it and it happens, and then like the whole class
is just a bomb. And the funniest thing about this
woman was that she was a Spanish teacher with a speech.
Speaker 11 (13:47):
Impediment, So she got you guys Spanish with a stutter.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
She couldn't say no in Spanish.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Correct, that's a big deal, and so she would she
rolled then.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
So when she.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
When she stepped on the stink bomb, she went, oh,
I folks, you all think that's really funny.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
You go to restaurants and then you're trying to order
in Spanish and they're like, we have a special menduo.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
You all like baby bods, and I'm always trying to
feed you, but I always have to one neck and
try to make it go.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Now, what the hell is happening?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's a public school and private school, two totally different
experiences completely, yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
And now like it seems like none of that exists.
But also there's crazier.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Things that are happening now than much ever would have
been thinkable when we were in school. Yes, like everything
when we were in school. I can cider more like
petty crimes totally, you know, like smoking weed in the
machine operations class because there was a welding booth that
was really made for like two or three people and
you walk in at aldered ice and see eight sets
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of legs in one booth. All right, Well, I think
I know what's happening in that booth.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, it's a different time. Well, it's suffice to say.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
The whole point of this was to say that I
think you guys all do a great job parenting in
a very very tough time, and you do it the
best way possible, you know, and you're not afraid to
make mistakes. Again, back in the day, people were too
concerned about it wasn't I don't think that parents talked
a lot about parenting, you know, thirty years ago.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
No, But like, my point in all of this is,
I don't know if it's any better. It's certainly different.
It's it's maybe a step above what we had, But
I don't, I don't. I'm not convinced we're not screwing
our kids up just as much.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
In a different way. Well, I mean, I'll ask the phones.
I'll ask you this, Bill.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Do you feel like that as a parent, that maybe
we've taken like the omnipotent, like kind of godlike status
out of what it means to be a parent? Like
do you feel like you speak to your children as
a person instead of like above them so much?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Like, I feel like I I still am an authority
figure to eatie.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I think you have to be.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
But I don't feel like I don't reveal myself, Like
I don't feel like I stand above her so much
that I won't cut down a lot of you know,
the I don't know if I'm explaining this correctly, but
you know, I will be revealing to her and to
kind of be self deprecating in a way so that
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we can relate to each other.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, I try to do that as much as I can,
But I still I still don't listen enough. I still
like I'm I'm still to my of a a a
guidance for them when they don't they don't experience is
really going to be their teacher at this point. I
mean when once they're they're seventeen years old, like you're not,
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they're not letting in any new information. Their life experience
is going to be the only teacher. And that's that's
kind of hard. That's a hard transition for a parent.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
No, there's a couple of things that life just has
to kick yours.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
A lot of my friends are becoming empty nesters like this.
This is the year that a bunch of my friends
became empty nesters and the struggle is real. I mean
it's hurting them. I feel bad for them in a way.
I'm liken't isn't it awesome? Like you're free in a way,
and they're like, Nope.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
No, it sucks. That's a nightmare.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
My sister so much that she, like her three girls
are all now moved on, Like her youngest just she's
going to UCLA yeah, and the older one is already
working in Los ane Angelus and the middle one is like,
I think I'm gonna move there too. So my sister's like,
you know, I'm gonna get just a small place out
there just so I because I want to go.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And I'm like, you're moving.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
There, You're just gonna follow them, like you're not. You're
not gonna stay in Chicago. You're gonna go there because
that's where they are. Like no, I'm not gonna be
one of those moms. And I'm like, what are you
doing this weekend? She's like, I'm going to Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
You're like, oh, okay, well this is this is My
point is that you know, in three generations, it went
from like you know, my grandparents, I don't like neither
of my grandfathers. I don't even believe we're in the
hospital when you know my grandmother had right, my parents
like they were like, all right, we'll meet the kid
in a couple of months and just let me know
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what the name is or whatever. And then you're just like,
all right, don't embarrass me. I hope you don't suck,
but don't don't like, don't trash the family name. And
then the boomers are like, all right, well, we're gonna
step it up a notch from them, and like we're
gonna encourage our kids to be whatever they were gonna
want to want to be. But then that brought its
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own anxiety, and now we're on our kids like co
piloting the whole thing, and we're on their ride now.
And so I'm not saying, like my point is, I
don't know that it's better. It's definitely different, but I
think we're victim of the same thing that every generation is,
which is the arrogance to think that we could fix everything.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Well, the one way I know things are different is
that we followed, especially my dad's lead, in terms of
like this is a watch this movie and you should
do you know what I mean? This is what you
should be watching if we were watching TV would be
kind of like something he wanted, which was always funny.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Uh. And now I think parents like the kids kind
of dictate.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Like music and the like.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
In the TV they run.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
The entertainment on the house show, which was a little
different like when my parents weren't there. Obviously we did,
but when they were it was like we watch what
they wanted to watch.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Yeah, no, house full of adult Yeah no, let's let's
see what Blue's up to.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
What Get Blue the hell out of the house.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
You get out of the house, like everybody get out
of the house.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
But that's what you're.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Involved in it, and you know it, you know what
I mean, Like Mike.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I don't, but I don't know if the self awareness
is doing any good.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
But my mom would be like walk into my room
and see an Iron Maiden poster and be like, oh
my lord, what is that? You know and be terrified
and say a novena, you know it is the devil
is coming for you.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It doesn't like I have an Iron Maiden silk flag
in the garage and she's like, I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm like, well, I don't like you Sometimes.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Get used to it.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
That's Eddie, He's fine. Yeah, don't you worry about it? Yeah, no, Yeah.
The specter of rock and roll, like the old school
trope of like this is the Devil's music was very
much a part of my mom and grandmother, like their
concerns for their her grandkids. My grandmother was so convinced,
and she was like a wild, crazy Irish but she
thought that because the preachers told her that rock and
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roll was ruining our souls, which only made us all
dig in even more.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I've told you before.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
She made us listen to the tapes of led Zeppelin
back Masking and she's like, they are giving you secret
devil messages. And if you've ever heard that, you know,
the back masking on Stairway to Heaven, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Like sweet Satan, power Satan. It's like so indiscernible.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And even at that age we were like, Grammy, you
know you would have to do how hard it would be.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
To write a song so that it said Satan backwards.
It's just happening though you don't understand. They're not trying,
and it's just implicit because it's the Devil's music.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You know, Like I don't know, you get hammered and
smoke cigarettes and play Jim Rummy all day to be
like maybe there's something in there you should investigate. Anyways,
the Steelers and the Browns take the field Sunday, one
o'clock at Akershuer Stadium. It's give me a barn burner,
you know, throw the records out the window. Dylan Gabriel
(22:07):
behind center.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I really think it's going to be a barn burner.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Barn burner would indicate like a high scoring back and forth.
I think it's going to be like high tension sixteen.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
To twelve okay, competitions learning them.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That's kind of what I think.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We'll talk to Alvaro Martine from the Steeler Spanish broadcast,
the host of El Parcas in Machilado, and he's the
best man. This guy is really well versed, so he
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Speaker 14 (23:27):
In the mic pursuita with your sports now on the
DV Morning Show, Can you believe that now Hockey Night
in Pittsburgh accounted No, and I didn't know anybody's names
were about Breso.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
We're gonna learn about these guys as we go. Uh.
Speaker 15 (23:47):
One of the reasons you didn't know it's sports. The
seller is brought to you by riginal appliants. One of
the reasons you didn't know is because some of these
veteran acquisitions were not exactly headlined inspiring developments wasn't on
the cover of Hockey News. Penguins get Anthony Matha, so
you know.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
I'm manta.
Speaker 15 (24:07):
They had a bunch of transactions like that, but it
added up to three nothing.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
For openers last night.
Speaker 15 (24:14):
The Pens didn't necessarily make a statement against Mike Sullivan's
Rangers at Madison Square Garden, but they established a baseline
that's encouraging moving forward. Here's the new head coach, damn Use.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I think they uh, I think they were ready to
show up when they one, So I thought they I
thought they to a man, I thought they did. They
did a great job. You know, I thought, uh for
the first game of the season. I just like the
fact that, you know, the walk out of there, we
get the job done. But you know, you can look
around the locker room and really feel like, you know,
to a man, everybody did something there to contribute tonight.
(24:51):
And so yeah, if we're going to start that way,
and that's going to be the base we're going to
build off of. Like that's what I learned tonight. I'm
excited about building with these guys.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
I don't think that lineup would have looked anywhere near
what it was last night if Sally was still the coach.
I think that these veteran coaches lean towards the veterans
and they've been there, done that guys. I mean Sullivan
when he first came in. That's one of the shining
examples of why it worked early on.
Speaker 15 (25:19):
Yeah, but you know, he coached all those guys at
Wilkesbury and then he played him. Why he went away
from that is beyond me, because he won cups doing
that and then he got to a point where he
didn't trust young guys anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Well, I don't know he'd have a choice with this
lineup right now.
Speaker 15 (25:34):
Well that's a good point too. What really struck me
about that game and just listening to damn use leading
up to it, listening to a few interviews. I didn't
go to any practices or anything in training camp. But
this is a team that's gonna have to do it
by the numbers. You know, Penguins fans got used to
for a number of years, and when I say a
number of years, I mean decades. Okay, they screwed that up,
(25:57):
but the star power is such that somebody will just
do upting magical and that'll make up for it. Well,
you don't have magical anymore, so you can't get stuff away.
You got to play the game by the numbers. You
got to do it like all those other slobs have
been doing it all that. You know, it's not gonna
be pretty, it's not gonna be real exciting, but it's
gonna be a you know, a game by game, period
(26:19):
by period, shift by shift battle to just don't screw
it up first and foremost, and then see if you
can be opportunistic. And that's what they were on the
face off play last night. The Rangers screwed up the
defensive bummers left the guy wide open.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
In front of the goal, and he scored. Uh justin Brazil.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
I mean, an easy way for us to learn your
name is score a couple of goals.
Speaker 15 (26:42):
Yeah, then he got an empty netter and they got
another empty nettter. But uh yeah, it's they're just gonna
have to work for their for their wins, and they're
gonna have to play the right way.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
Another sullivanism.
Speaker 15 (26:52):
Right, they stopped doing that a long time ago too,
Maybe they can start again.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
It's fun to watch.
Speaker 15 (26:58):
And the goalie, Uh full marks to dann Use for
starting Archer's Sea lobs. That crazy Latvian kid.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Didn't we eat Sea Lobs over in Dublin.
Speaker 9 (27:10):
We did. Yeah.
Speaker 15 (27:11):
Appetizer home opener and Thursday night against the Islands are
runs way pretty encouraging stuff from the Pens. Mike Tomlin
is encouraged about the possibilities of Alex Highsmith, Joey Porter,
and Jalen Warren playing Sunday against Cleveland. Really encouraged is
how Tomlin categorized what he's anticipating from those guys. Calvin
(27:35):
Austin and Jalen Ramsey are banged up. Tomlin said yesterday
he's quote encouraged about the potential of those guys, but
we'll take it certainly day by day.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
That means nothing. I wouldn't count on seeing out of
one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I actually don't want but to see them.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I mean, I do want to see them, but I
don't want to rush them back to get them healthy.
We should be able to win this game without them
this weekend. Not that it will be easy, no, but
we still should be able to win the game.
Speaker 15 (28:00):
Not that it would be easy with them, but yeah,
I agree with all of that. Interesting in the Cleveland's
defense is really good. Minnesota's defense was really good. And
Minnesota's kind of signature under Brian Flores is the amount
of different schematics and how diverse and complicated and potentially
confusing it is for the other team.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Cleveland just lines up and hitching the face.
Speaker 15 (28:25):
Miles Garrett has gotten some pub over the years for
moving up and down the line. I was real interested
in seeing how he played against the Vikings. He was
on right defensive end almost the entire time, played a
few snaps on the left, but almost always on the right.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
I expect that again this week.
Speaker 15 (28:43):
And when he did go to the left, he stayed there.
It wasn't like a down by down Where's Waldo.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Thing, which I think he's going to be playing a
game called Where's bro Derrek?
Speaker 15 (28:52):
Yeah, but you know what, he was playing Darisol against
the Vikings, who's a really good left tackle, and he
stayed there, and he was winning more than he was losing.
I mean, he was getting chipped and he was getting
double teamed.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
This is where our forty one year old quarterback becomes
a concern to me.
Speaker 15 (29:08):
That's more chuck and duck man, and it's critical to
run the ball and stay out A third and long
got to stay ahead of the chains again.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well, yeah, assuming Jalen Warren is healthy enough to go,
which it looks like that's the case. And given what
you saw from Kenneth game well and his ability to
you know, be more than one dimensional, which is how
we had him painted prior to that, we being us.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Yeah, yeah, that dealer is there.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You know, I think they might be able to pound
them enough to finally make a dent in the running game.
It might not happen right away, but you gotta stick
with it. Might be ten to seven with a bunch
of punts, well that's what I said, sixteen to twelve
or something. You know, it's like you got and you
gotta keep doing it. And it's not the most fun
way to watch the game.
Speaker 15 (29:55):
But hunting is not a bad thing in this game.
Turning it over is bad. Third and sixteen is bad.
It's like the.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Most damaged You feel like the Browns will be able
to do will be defensively because they might be able
to get a turnover or force field position flip and
you know what I mean, Like, I'm not worried when
they have the ball in their own end. As much
as I am, I'm concerned about whether or not they
can run it, because if they can, yeah, of course,
I don't know. Man, give like Cole Holcom has stepped
(30:25):
up big time. But you know Harmon being in there
and being one week more acclimated and he's a bleep
disruptor from the ghetto.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
And also.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Which m call it, Keanu Benton like showing that he
can career.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
There's something to affect the game, and maybe they use
him a little bit differently than just being like, well,
you're a nose tackle, take on a double team.
Speaker 15 (30:53):
He can't well, and you know he doesn't have to
as often with Harmon and Hayward out there.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Right.
Speaker 15 (30:59):
Yeah, that's what Cleveland's got going on, not just Garrett,
but their draft pick out of Michigan, Mason Graham, really
good defensive tackle, and he gets a lot of double teams.
And then Garrett gets chipped by the tight end and
maybe chip by the back, and then he's got to
go through an offensive line and sometimes he gets double teams.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
How many players Darnel Washington gonna get on Sunday?
Speaker 9 (31:20):
Whole bunch, Yeah, whole bunch.
Speaker 15 (31:23):
The other thing that's interesting about Cleveland's defense is they
have two really good corners Denzel Ward, who is by
far the best one, and then Greg Newsom's really good.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
They play left and right, they.
Speaker 15 (31:32):
Don't follow, and they did the same thing that justin
Jefferson wherever whoever's got him has him. He had another
one hundred yard game and made some ridiculous catches.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Those guys both had big games, Addison and Jefferson. Against
those two, I really thought they were gonna slow them
down more than they did.
Speaker 15 (31:49):
Jefferson did most of his damage out of the slot.
The slot guy's number twenty six harden In like regular nickel,
and then number five is this safety nickel when they
go three safeties and both of those guys can be
so if they put DK out of the slot again
as much as they did against Jenkins, is the safety
number five?
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Yeah, DK got to meet the slot, all.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
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Speaker 17 (34:41):
Gentlemen, last time I saw you, you were smiling. You
were sort of in a haze in a rooftop of
the Fitzpatrick Pub in Dublin, Ireland, and your your greens
went from ear to ear.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
That's all I have to say.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, we were drunk.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Yeah, I just want to say that. I didn't want
to say that.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Thank you, still smiling even when you bring it up.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, just the memory of that one brings back the smiles.
Because the Steelers got out of there with a win.
Plus that. I mean, we have been talking about it NonStop,
and even though we're ten days out from that, it
bears repeating how amazing that scene was at Croke Park.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
You know, I had conversations with people.
Speaker 17 (35:21):
Obviously I kind of cover the international side of things
a little bit more than you guys would. But the
NFL can always go to a country that's big, huge
and try to activate that market. But if you go
and I'm going to quote what happened in South Paulo, if.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
You go to a city where the team tells.
Speaker 17 (35:38):
You do not leave the hotel, it's just kind of
like not safe, do not leave the hotel at all
for any reason.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
And so you come in you land, go.
Speaker 17 (35:47):
To the hotel, go to practice, back to the hotel,
game over, you get in the flight, you fly back.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Were you there?
Speaker 17 (35:53):
Did your players get to see that city? Will they
be looking forward to the next international trip? Dublin was
a great city that way, Yeah, fabulous, fabulous and welcoming.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Uh spoke the same language that always helps God.
Speaker 17 (36:10):
And well, I remember seeing on Saturday afternoon seeing Cam
and Roderick Jones walk the streets of Dublin, and I
think that's what the league wants in the end to
some extent.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, watched with Skyler Thompson. But yes, well that was
on Friday night.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Yeah, we don't know the details of that.
Speaker 17 (36:30):
We'll never know maybe, but hopefully he's doing all right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, I think he's doing okay.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
One thing you said to us then was first down
was going to be a big signifier for how things
would go for the Steelers on both offense and defense.
And all of a sudden they did become, you know,
run disruptors there with ken O Benton and Derek Harmon
having big days and the secondary came up big too,
But really the play of that defensive line, we're going
(36:57):
to need that against the Browns on Sunday.
Speaker 17 (37:00):
Oh, without a doubt. You know, the rookie running back
is just getting started. The As Mike Tomlins said earlier
this week, the interior of that line is as good
as it gets in the NFL. I think the edges,
the tackles are a little bit ifsy, but those guards
and center devastating The difference I think has been Derek Harmon.
That double team that would sweet Keanu off his spot
(37:23):
is a little harder to play when you've got to
deal with Harmon, and Keano then becomes what he really
is built to be, which is say penetrator and disruptor.
To hold a point of attack with his weight in
his body size is to ask him to do something
he really it's the second or third best thing he
can do. You're gonna put him in a very difficult spot.
(37:44):
But with Harmon there, in the moment Harmon shows up,
Keanu was released. That's Keano.
Speaker 8 (37:49):
That's what he can do. And it's a beautiful thing
to see.
Speaker 17 (37:52):
Not that Derek simply holds the point of attack and
just does nothing, but imagine against the double team, he
breaks through laps at balls, Perry's quarterbacks, sacks quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Against the double team. That's really unusual.
Speaker 17 (38:08):
So you've got him, You've got Can on the other
side out in the middle, and then you've got the
Shawn Elliott, who is the best surest tackling in the
Steelers possibly in the NFL. The quarterback of that secondary.
He barks at people all the time.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
He's very vocal.
Speaker 17 (38:24):
He came over with us to Mexico and a visit,
and you can tell that he's he kind of he
sees an environment, he aims to control it. He aims
to sort of set it right in his view. And
that's the kind of player he is. And add to that,
he's the best tackler, and then you begin to see
how the job of the line defensive line is so
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good that the guys in the tackling list that shoot
up on that list are the linebackers. And that's when
you know Pitcher's doing really well. So it's a joy
to watch. Now they're going to give up yards. This
team is going to give up yards for a lot
of different reasons. Particularly I think that the secondary doesn't
have any speedster to keep up with a speeding wide receiver,
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so they're gonna give up yards.
Speaker 8 (39:09):
But I think when the when, when the when?
Speaker 17 (39:11):
Things get tight in that red zone and this here's
gonna always be pressuring you.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
They are going to take the ball away from you.
Speaker 17 (39:19):
As they they have in the last couple of games
and will probably continue to do so. So it's just
a fun group. It's a very different tempo of a defense.
They blitz about a third more than they did last year.
In other words, they're back to what they were in
the nineties and early odds. But they're gonna give up
yards and so you need to deal with that as
(39:39):
a fan. The ball's gonna move you just you just
know that this is gonna be there when it counts,
and maybe take the ball away.
Speaker 15 (39:47):
Alvar of Calvin Austin doesn't play. How do you see
them reacting to that?
Speaker 8 (39:52):
Uh?
Speaker 15 (39:53):
Roman Wilson gets his chance. More tight ends, more running
the ball. What's what's what's the POTENTI fix without Austin.
Speaker 17 (40:02):
I'd like to see where this jumbo package goes, because
it's a double edged sword. If it gets you six
yards per play on a running play, great right, third
and short, that's when Aaron can be devastating, devastating third
and short. You're asking, you're putting Aaron in the best
spot possible to recavoc.
Speaker 8 (40:21):
On the other hand, you're taking away.
Speaker 17 (40:23):
The possibility of exploding, which you can anyway, because the
line won't hold the line for Aaron to really step
back and have time to throw and watch rest develop.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
So it'd be.
Speaker 17 (40:33):
Interesting to see how much they use they use that
tactic because I think it's a bit of a crutch.
It's effective, it's great, it can lead to great things, but.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
It requires a lot of plays.
Speaker 17 (40:44):
It requires a series of eight, ten, eleven plays, and
you know at some point someone's going to screw up.
You get a penalty and they're you know, incomes to
punting teams now, in terms of Calvin and the offense,
they don't have time to throw. I think you have
two point sixteen seconds to throw on average in Dublin.
Speaker 8 (41:01):
I mean, it's just.
Speaker 17 (41:02):
Gonna be a lot of screens, a lot of routes,
zero route throes, right to the sideline real quick and
then do your thing.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
In other words, Calvin's ability to stretch the field is.
Speaker 17 (41:16):
Limited because the ball's not gonna not gonna be held
enough for him to separate and really go deep. So
it's to me, you won't miss him as much as
far as Rowan goes. And he apparently is the one
of the two players that Mike Thomas mentioned would be
the one.
Speaker 8 (41:31):
Thinking up the slack. He's a great guy in Michigan.
I think eighty nine.
Speaker 17 (41:37):
Of the passes that he received produce a first down.
Think about it, nine out of ten, whether it was
a third down or nine. I mean, he's terribly effective
that way. But Aaron Rodgers is a different quarterback, and
with Aaron you have to be literally sort of teleporting yourself.
Your mind and his have to meld. And if you
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don't follow your instincts, don't do what Aaron.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
Sees, he won't throw you a ball.
Speaker 17 (42:05):
And so I think I think Roman's challenge is to
really get into the mind of Aaron. Asked him, Hey,
this situation that this happened. What are you looking at?
What am I looking at? We need to get on
the same page the moment they do. I think he's
going to be effected. I hope it happens a Sunday.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Do you think that he's gonna leap frog John U
and Mooth? Because to me, there's a lot of meat
left on that bone. I mean that those guys are
not getting involved in the way that we all expected
at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 17 (42:35):
Clearly, and that's been a bit of a surprise, but
it comes from the line not being.
Speaker 8 (42:39):
What they thought that it would be.
Speaker 17 (42:41):
And so now you have to bring Darnell on just
about every play, forty eight plays in Dublin, and then
you got to bring in Spencer or nineteen place, and
it cuts down the reps for Bryan with about fifteen.
I mean, guy, you're paying fourteen million dollars a year
with fifteen places in the game and a guy who's
capable of catching balls really not catching having a lot
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of targets. So I think my thought is it depends
on what Arthur wants to do and what he believes
the matchup will be against the Browns. One thing about
the Browns. Greg Newsom normally thought of by Pittsburgh fans
because they they see him twice a year as a
pretty good corner. It's having a tough year and he's
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being targeted, and so it'd be interesting to see there's
a guy where you think, depending on your lineup, you
could find a matchup that says, okay, let's go after
him with fire mouths. Let's go after him with John
and see what happens. So I think the matchups will
dictate how much they play.
Speaker 8 (43:38):
One thing about.
Speaker 17 (43:39):
Fought Friar Moose with a notable, huge and terrible exception
of having that field goal blocked in Dublin when you just.
Speaker 8 (43:48):
Whiffed, he just forgot we have to block. He's blocking
the best he's blocked in the NFL.
Speaker 17 (43:54):
He according to some people who track these things, he's
a second or third best pass blocker and run blocker
for the Steelers this year.
Speaker 8 (44:03):
That's incredible because that's not what he's known for.
Speaker 17 (44:06):
But I think he senses that if I want to
be on the field and they're not going to throw
me passes or as many as I thought I would be, then.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
I better do something.
Speaker 17 (44:16):
And I think it has to be noted that bad fine,
with the great, notable exception of that whiff on that
field goal, is actually blocking the best he's blocked in
the NFL in his career. And good for him. I
mean he needs to show that. I think there's a
lot of doubt that you can do that. We'll keep
doing it, and you'll they'll keep putting them on the field.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
LaVar Martin, the Spanish broadcaster host of l podcast in Macilado,
And do you think we're going to end up in
Mexico City in the future.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Yes.
Speaker 17 (44:44):
And the conundrum for the Steelers right now is things
went so well in Dublin. They've got Germany as a
global market, yeah, and of course they've got Mexico as
their long standing global market. The game in Dublin was
moved from Mexico City. That game was meant to be
played this year in Mexico City. AFC teams like the
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Steelers can move a home game on odd numbered years,
so the next time would be twenty twenty seven. I
don't think an NFC team would be foolish enough in
twenty twenty six to bring in Pittsford as a visiting team,
because it'll be a Steels home game.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
Yeah, So I think it would have to wait.
Speaker 17 (45:23):
The question in twenty twenty seven is Mexico because it's two,
or Germany because it hasn't had one, or Dublin because
we want to keep it going and we had such
a great time. So I think the answer to that
question will be Mexico has to kind of get its
act together. The people that own the stadium. It's the
largest TV network in Mexico. They have an exclusivity deal
(45:44):
with the NFL. They can't move the game to another
stadium anywhere in Mexico. It's that statum or bust. We've
had two incidents now where the city wasn't ready for
an NFL game and you can't move the game in Mexico.
So they've got to get their act together and they
need to be welcoming to the NFL. I mean, I
think Dublin said a high standard. It's a smaller city,
(46:06):
of course.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
But Dublin was one hundred percent ready for so I
mean that was as you you know, colored it earlier.
I mean, it was like just walking into the biggest
here we go. It's an NFL weekend and it was
just in another country. And embrace the international feel of
that while still retaining the vibe of an NFL Sunday
(46:30):
is something that I'll never forget.
Speaker 8 (46:32):
Absolutely.
Speaker 17 (46:33):
And the city small, They've got about a million people
in city limits surrounded by countryside.
Speaker 18 (46:39):
It's really tightly yeah, you know, laid out, but the
bars were activated, the colors were there, Yeah, murals activated.
People knew in Ireland, people knew the best thing I
took away.
Speaker 8 (46:52):
As I'm checking out of my hotel twenty five.
Speaker 17 (46:54):
Minutes away from downtown, a young lady checking us out said,
I said, you watched foot goes, Oh, yeah, yeah, and who.
Speaker 8 (47:02):
Do you watch?
Speaker 17 (47:02):
He goes, Why you watch the Steelers? I said, But
how casually? She goes, Well, I used to watch them
cash I knew they were coming. But now that they're
here and I know that's seeing a couple of games, I.
Speaker 8 (47:14):
Root for them. They're the underdogs. They don't get anything easy.
We relate to that. I'm a Steelers fan.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 9 (47:23):
Come on, I love that.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Alvaro, thank you so much for your time, man, appreciate it,
and I hope we're talking soon. You bet Okay, all right,
we'll see Alvarro Marti from the l podcast in Maculado
and podcast and I believe that that's exactly what it means. Sure,
well done, Mike, Oh Mike, Well.
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Let's hope he's calling another one.
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Let's hope he's calling another one like this.
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Speaker 2 (47:57):
Said, cop hie high off.
Speaker 17 (48:00):
He came back up.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
You go.
Speaker 17 (48:03):
Austin there, Yes, Dodge down, Dodge down, PA, pay for
your change, Nay.
Speaker 5 (48:12):
Then Donny came back.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Up, Buddy Power, Hey, you loved.
Speaker 15 (48:19):
You Don't know what the hell he said, but I
heard Austin in there the blocks. So he's following the
play to the end and noticing the downfield block and.
Speaker 7 (48:27):
On a linebacker too. I mean that was it?
Speaker 9 (48:29):
Was it? Okay Son?
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Tell us PT comment are coming up nine to fifteen.
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