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November 10, 2025 • 39 mins
Tim Benz is at a loss after watching the Aaron Rodgers and the offense have their worst performance of the season in the loss to the Chargers.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rogers back, Rogers steps up.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now he's going to retreat back into the end.

Speaker 3 (00:03):
Zone, and Rogers is sacked by Khalil Mack and it's.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Going to be a safety.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Today is the fiftieth year anniversary of the wreck of
the Edmund FitzGeralds Oh.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
It is.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
The Steelers' playoff chances are buried deeper than that Great
Lakes Freighter. Impossible to bring back to any sort of
life at this point, as far as I'm concerned, technically, no,
sure they've got a chance.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
They still got a winning record, they're in first place.
And yet do.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
You have any confidence in what you watched last night?
Specifically Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers offense. Aaron Rodgers was
sixteen of thirty one with one hundred and sixty one yards,
one touch down, and two interceptions.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Now, one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Was not his fault, Calvin Austin letting former Steeler Dante
Jackson enjoy the spoils of victory last night with a
meaningless interception at that point, but it was hard for
me to know if it was all just Aaron Rodgers
or the offensive line spooking Aaron Rodgers into that performance.

(01:24):
I think it was a little from Colum A Little
from columb offensive line was absolutely abysmal all night long.
Losing Isaac Samalu was the djenga piece that toppled the
tower of the Steelers' offense. They couldn't do a thing
last night without Rogers running for his life, and it
caused him to be erratic and indecisive and making bad

(01:49):
decisions when he could make one. That was the worst
we've seen him. I wondered if, because that game was
in Los Angeles, if Aaron Rodgers maybe didn't go back
home to his house in Malibu to surprise his imaginary
wife and then the founder with an imaginary lover.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh yeah, can you imagine he got an imaginary cook.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
If you got to take a dayot no, I kid,
I kid.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
There was a story in the New York Post about
his quote unquote like you know, invisible wife or whatever
you am.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
What's their thought? Oh it's the Post?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Who cares?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's all garbage? If you got to keep his private
life private, I don't care. I'm just joking.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And from his relationship past, that's probably a good idea.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, yes, once they start talking, it
doesn't go good for him typically, and it did not
go good for the Steelers offense last night.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I I don't know how to fick.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I honestly think play calling is part of it, but
because I think Jalen Warren is just an absolute stud
battering ram. But the line is really really bad, and
they they are easily confused, and if they don't have
say moll In there, they seem to be even worse
than they are when they are I think right now
a little bit above average of an offensive line when

(03:10):
they're at their best. Last night they were, They were
a mess.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Johnny Smith almost got killed trying to bring down a
high thrown ball from Aaron Rodgers. Even when he was
finding open guys, he was overthrowing, underthrowing all that.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Under throw.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Calvin Austin, you know, bad choice to go to DK
on the fourth down on the fourth and goal.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, well, I mean bad place to put the ball.
Didn't let him jump for it, really inside instead of outside.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Really that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
But then he had safety help if it goes any
further in the other direction. But I do understand. Hell,
he's DK Metcalfe throw it to him there, Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh yeah, I go.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I love the idea, I get that, but bad execution.
He only had thirty five yards receiving last night, three catches.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Conversely, Lad mcconkae at one hundred and seven for the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Fifty eight of them on the one play where Echoes
fell down.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Just and then settling for fifty nine yard field goals
from Chris Boswell to start the game, right.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
They even missed one. I was like, well, now we're
definitely doomed. Yeah, because didn't that feel like a six
field goal game? Last night?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
It kind of I thought it was gonna be.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I mean, it was three to two after the first
quarter from Coranta lout the score is three to two,
and then it was five to three. You know, it
was one of those nice it's a pretty much Steelers
now finding themselves in a very tricky situation at five
and four.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Because they're at home versus Tomlin's Boogeyman.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That's right, that's right. Joe Flacco comes to town.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
And the Bears are the Bears good. I don't know,
the Bears are like dangerous. They've won a couple crazy games.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, they won again yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Chargers last second charge Williams touchdown run.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Chargers are seven to three, right now, does that look
like a seven and three team to you? They looked
like No, they look injured. That was a battle of
brutal all night long. Honestly I did. I thought it
looked more like a Thursday night football game than a
Sunday night football game. Just it was a battle of
who wanted it less. Yeah, first half, I mean, glass
half full. The defense played amazing in the first half.

(05:27):
I thought so too, And I don't know how much
you can hang on the defense. You know, they gave
up ten points in the fourth quarter, but I mean
they were on the field so much in that game.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It was an absolute mess.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
That they gave up ten points in the fourth quarter.
That was the final box score on that. Yeah, they
it's one hundred and five points on the year in
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
The time of possession last night was thirty eight to
twenty two.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh, they get dominated in time of possession even when
they win. They don't win the time of possess.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Not thirty eight to twenty two. No, that's horrible. Eighteen
first downs for the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And that's why the defense caves right that the offense
is just not capable putting together long drive.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
They didn't gas those guys are you don't give them
a breather at all. They gassed them all night long,
putting them back on the field three and outs, three
and outs, two for eleven on third down the Steelers
two for eleven.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's tough because when you think about the Steelers wins
against quality opponents, you think about you know, the obviously
the Minnesota Vikings in Dublin, but that was more of
an emotional game. Outside of that, it's the Patriots and
it's the Colts, and they needed eleven turnovers in those
games to win by fourteen points total.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, and they didn't get any turnovers last night, and
that is their business plan, turnovers. Even though our offense
sputters and we kick field goals turnovers, but once you
start missing the field goals, you're not getting any turnovers.
The margin of air for Mike Tomlin's strategy is razor
thin all the time. That's the problem I think a

(07:09):
lot of people have with it. And then occasionally they'll
win a game like they did against the Colts and
they'll do a lot of sea see. But that's that's
the anomaly. You know, now that's fools, black and gold.
There you go twenty five to ten Chargers and the Steelers,
And of course they made us stay up until eleven
thirty to watch that entire debacle. Absolute, it was a debacle.

(07:32):
It was a debacle. They still had a chance at
the end of the first half. They had a chance,
and they just did not want that game. I mean,
that's that's the bottom line. It was twelve to three.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
A Rod looked one hundred years old last night.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Man, did he ever?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
He just looked like a jet lag forty one year old.
Like that's how I would play if we flew out
to La.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, brutal, and he looks scared. I've not seen him
look like that before.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, the line was porous. I mean, the bookends. Filtano
had his first game of the season. Broderick was leaky.
I mean, I'd have happy feet too.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Broderick is slow to react, man, He's just really slow
to react. And Khalil Mack had his way last night.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Damn. He looked like Khalil Mack last night.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
He did looked like that whole Bears Packers thing came
back to him, you know what I mean, Like he
got some like origin story, DNA popped up into him
and he saw Aaron Rodgers and just destroyed the Steelers line.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Look, did you win the Battle of the trenches against
the Steelers? You win the game.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
They don't have any skill players that can bail you
out of anything right now because Aaron Rodgers can't move.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean, Justin Herbert was under fire a lot last night.
I think it ended up.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Got to him a bunch. Yeah, five times, at least
five sacks.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Steelers only stuff three because Rogers threw.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It away like four times, which is part of why
you only had sixteen completions last night. He looks pissed too,
after almost everything seen one. I just don't know where
the silver lining is on in any of this.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean the defense does look better, but that
was against a offensive line that was decimated. They were
on their third and fourth string tackles and Justin Herbert
didn't have a whole lot of time either. And oh,
by the way, how good would the defensive look if
one of the five balls that weren't dropped by the

(09:42):
Chargers were actually caught. Yeah, his receivers didn't do him
any favors last.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Year, as he dropped another interception. Yeah, everybody had the
drop seas Michael have Moron at coming up the bottom
of the hour. But it was a real bummer to
watch last night. Like I said, Herbert twenty for thirty
three for two and twenty yards and a touchdown. But
all this good football team. Man, we knew they were tough.
They just don't make mistakes for the whole game. That's true,

(10:08):
you know, because they made mistakes early and we just
didn't capitalize.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
They made tons of mistakes.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
So now Flacos coming to town, and it's gonna have
that ugly vibe that the Colts game had in the
first quarterly. And if it goes sideways, I kept saying
at the beginning of this year, this could be Tomblin's waterloo.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
It really could. I know that's hard to believe.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
But if things keep going south, I don't think they're
gonna stand pat. I don't I don't think they're gonna say, oh, Mike,
you'll fix it.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
We believe in you.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I think Art's under a little too much pressure for that.
And whatever they've assembled right now is just not good enough.
And it you know, Mike might come in here and
you know, just say, well, he was the quarterback. The
quarterback was terrible last night. If he makes this throw,
that throw in that throw that he had wide open,
it's a different game.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
And that is I'm on the same page with that.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, that's not untrue.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I think Aaron cannot afford to have a bad game,
not with the way that this team is going. Like
he's the lynchpin for it all offensively for sure. Yeah,
if he's not activating and those guys weren't getting open.
I mean he said it last night in his postgame presser,
nobody was open. Yikes, how is nobody open? How did

(11:32):
you not go get a receiver?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Because they didn't get a second receiver? That's why mvs.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Is he the answer to all our prayers? I don't
think so.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't think so either. All right, Abby's got a
news update for you. Now, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Abby News? This hour brought to you.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
By your neighborhood Ford Store Clouds.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
With a couple of snowshowers today and a high of
thirty nine, a bipartisan group in the Senate announced a
funding package Sunday that aims to end the longest federal
government shut down in US history. Measure passed by a
sixty to forty vote, signaling efficient support to move forward.
The agreement would extend government funding through January thirtieth, while
combining three full year appropriation bills to reopen key agencies.

(12:11):
Federal workers will receive back pay and layoff freezes remain
until the end of January. House passage and presidential signatures
are still required. Meanwhile, the Federal Aviation Administration ordered airlines
to cut thousands of flights Friday because of air traffic
controller shortages during the ongoing government shutdown.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
And FAA Administrator Brian Bedford said that airlines must reduce
flights by ten percent at forty major airports across the country.
Airlines were told to cut four percent of Friday's flights
and gradually increase cuts to ten percent by this week,
including the over two thousand flights yesterday. Over four thousand
flights were canceled over the weekend. This is getting pretty wild. Yeah,

(12:56):
controllers have been working without pay, and the FAA says
it's taking these steps to make sure that flights are
staying safe.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
So I don't know if anybody is getting.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Ready to travel for the holidays, But obviously that makes
things pretty sketchy.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm sure it'll be fine. A I wouldn't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Just drive trains, trains, let's bring trains back.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I told you I love the train.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Well, yeah, I think we screwed up a long time
ago when I'm a big fan of the highway system.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Don't get me wrong, but we.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Should have laid some train tracks in this country like
Europe and had like a you know, a Marrow Rail
like they have the euro Rail.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Do you buy the conspiracy theory that it was the automakers, Like, I.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Don't think that's a conspiracy theory. I mean that's like
well documented, you know. Yeah, they basically just kind of
paid off lawmakers in the States back then to make
sure that they didn't put in high speed rails.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I mean that's that's why, yeah, why we don't have
the high speed rails, right, I.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Mean, you should be super easy to go from Philadelphia
to Pittsburgh, from Pittsburgh Chicago, from to New York.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Everybody that travels Europe says as much. It's so easy
to get back and forth all the countries.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, maybe we can fix that next week.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Well, if you're planning on traveling to visit friends and
family this holiday season, chances are you're going to hear
something like stay as long as you'd like, But they
don't actually mean that. According to a new survey of
two thousand Americans, most people would be happy to host
guests for six days long.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Any longer than that you are overstaying.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You're welcome. Six is a lot.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I thought four in my head when she's as soon
as she started this story, I thought four.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I thought three. I thought three, it's like.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Long weekend and then get the hell out of my house.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Fish and house guests start to stink after two days
or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, Ben Franklin, right, stunk after one day. Yeah, that
guy was.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Gross at all of us. You're the one that hosts
more than anyone. I think out of town people were
just even at your house. You've had people come in
and stay the weekend. I don't think I've had a
house guest in my adult life.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oh oh my god.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, no, I always have people coming in to just
stay the weekend in Pittsburgh, because I mean I've always
been that house for my friends and family. Hey we're
coming for a concert, we say, yeah. I mean I
just run it like a hotel, you know what I mean.
I'm like coffee's there, bathrooms there, there's towels, you know.
Like I'm not running around making everybody's life, you know,

(15:26):
super easy. It's just like fend for yourself and we're
all going to get along great. If I got to
clean up your mess, you're not coming back, you know
what about you?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Unless it's my brother Charlie.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
He always leaves a floater, but that's like his college
card though, I mean, I'd be offended if you do.
You have a heat lamp in your bathrootes, that's right,
turn it on and really cook it.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
I host a little more.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
I when we like have people at the house or
like I have friends over and stuff.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I make breakfast. I make food.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
I put food out and it's like always accessible, Like
I have food that's ready to go, like to be
able to grab a croissant.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I'll get pastes and uh like some fruit in the
fridge whatever, Like you want a little melon or something,
it's in there, but like all prepackaged.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I'm not like doing anything.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
You're not cutting it.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Some pretty things.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
But also I set up your room and your bathroom
with things like that you need like just for you.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Not me, not me. I like you to today.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Ye know, I don't make you feel unwelcome. It's just
like Also, I'm not bending over backwards.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, it's a B and B.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's not your house, that's right, Bowman, be quiet and
be gone.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
People admit that they begin dropping hints that it's time
to go. So, I don't know if you have had
to do that with anybody.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Where to go?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
No sighing, just staring off into the Yeah, sitting in
a room with a TV without it on.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Holding coffee like that, like real clothes, like cradling it
and just looking off into the distance.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Everything. Okay, Yeah, are.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
You enjoying yourself? You know we're gonna go.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Claim They just outright tell a guest it's time for
them to leave.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I've done it. I've happily done it, Like you have
to leave.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, see, I don't have any friends. I don't have
any friends. I should stop this. That would be comfortable,
wanting to even ask to stay over, but like, let
alone not leave. I had that situation in college. One
of my roommates just had this guy living in our house.
I think I've talked about this before, but come home
from a party or something, this dude would be in

(17:49):
our living room smoking SIGs, putting it out in food
it's worse, and playing video games in his boxers. I'm like,
we're gonna get Tito the hell it's.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Always a.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
Problem.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
We're gonna get Tito the hell out of the house.
It's not my friend.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Tito is still doing that to somebody right now, I guarantee.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah. I had a.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Buddy come to live with me when I first started
working here and I was living up on Mount Washington,
and he was kind of getting kicked around by life
a little bit at West and needed to change the pace,
you know, and and and flew back to the East Coast,
was gonna move back here. And then he's like, can
I cratch you for a couple of weeks or whatever,
you know, get my bleep together. And I'm like, yeah, dude,
I mean I got a big place. It's totally cool,

(18:31):
Like it's cool, uh, you know, come and get it
all figured out.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
He's like, I might move to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
I'm like, cool man, right, And then every day he's like,
I'm like show prepping and he's like pacing around behind
me with ideas and stuff, and he's like he was
kind of banged up, you know, and I'm like, yeah, buddy,
I'm like I love you, but like this is not
old Hollywood, like a writing team. You have to go
get a job, you know, like there's only one job

(18:58):
you know here, like you have to go get one.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
And then he did, you.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Know, And he was kind of laughing about it last
time I saw him.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
But it was otherwise.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
He was delightful, but I just felt, I'm like, you
can't just like watch someone sit there right, you know
what I mean, Like if they're really doing things to
get it going.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
That's why it's like I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
There's that Netflix show that's on right now, Death by Lightning,
which I.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Really like to finish it. I did.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I loved it. I loved it. It's about the assassination
of President Garfield, but it's just it's this assassin and
he's basically one of those guys who's just kind of
bouncing around like, oh, they just stay here for a
couple of days and I'll pay you when it's all,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Like one of those like a couch drifter kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know what I mean, And one of those guys
becomes an assassin.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's kind of impressive.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
No, No, he was finally got himself together.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
He really actually was impressive as a like.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Couch surf into assassinating. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I mean, he wasn't a couchsurfer so much as he
was like a you know, bed and breakfast surfer who
would yeah, kind of figure out how to stay.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Delusions of grandeur somebody.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
He wasn't really doing anything, is my point, And he
was just kind of he was pulling off frauds to
keep a life style going in order to.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well live.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
But he was convincing people he was onto something and
he never was. So you can't have somebody like that
at your house. What about what about the lake house?
Is it hard to keep everything clean up there? Because
we know, we know somebody that has like a vacation
home and they invite people up all the time. And
we stayed there one time, and you know, there it

(20:46):
was what we referred to as the booger bed, and.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
There was so we're like, all right, well, I wonder
if they've cleaned the booger bed for the new guests.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't know, unless Cardell is flicking boogers every Yeah,
I think I'm okay up there, start.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
A booger wall.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I'm sure my brother Charlie, Uh, there was a week
we might have been able to take an old piece
of drywall and like frame it like they do. Like
the you know outfield in Forbes Field is still sitting there,
you know what I mean, Like, here's his booger wall.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh glorious.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Do you have somebody that comes in and cleans it though,
Because my sister has a lake house and she has
like you know, she rents it out when they're not there,
and there's somebody that comes in and say service, and like.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
The family house, you know what I mean, it's like
it just gets clean.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's not somebody has to do it.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Clean when you leave. Yeah, clean up booch like that's it.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
It's an airbnb. The bee stands for that's right.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Siblings who instead of coming in and staying with my mom,
they stay out there and then have nightmares about growing
up in that house.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Come relive your traumas and visit your mom.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
It'll be fine.

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a game? No, no, no, it was not. Mike has
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Speaker 10 (22:56):
Aaron Rodgers had an awful Sunday night in Los Angeles,
as did the Steelers offensive collective. To Mike Tomlin, they
all had to wear Chargers twenty five Steelers ten.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
We as an offensive collective, we're off today, and certainly
he's a component of that. I'll let him speak for himself,
but we certainly got to be better. Didn't feel like
they did anything unanticipated, but certainly they outperformed us, particularly
in possession down play.

Speaker 10 (23:21):
You could say that possession down play. The Steelers were
over their first nine third downs. There were less there
were less than five minutes remaining in the game before
they converted one. Brutal here ends the lesson came win
that way. I mean, there's no there's obviously details and

(23:42):
nuanced to that, but if you're gonna guess that, the
biggest detail was Rogers just consistently missing open receivers that
all over the field. Moved to the head of the class.
He knew he didn't cut it, but he wasn't about
to about to overreact in the aftermath.

Speaker 8 (23:59):
Yeah, I expect play great every single week, and this
was not my best performance. I got to play better
in this for us to win, whatever it takes, I
gotta make a you know, if it's if it's better,
checks if it's better throws, whatever it is, I gotta
play better. I will, you know. But we got to
bounce back. We got a division opponent next week. We're
five and four, we're head by a game in the division,
and we got to play better on offense, for sure.

(24:20):
But you know, this is part of the season. There's
ebbs and flows, there's ups and downs, and we can't
can't ride the wave.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
This is the problem, though, is that Baltimore is coming
in the other direction. They've won their last three, we've
lost three or four. Yeah, and before that it was
the other way. Yes, how they got to lead.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
In the first you're gonna have to beat Baltimore head
to head, which you were gonna have to do all alone.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (24:45):
I like Rogers doesn't want to ride the wave, and
he already said he didn't want to ride the roller coaster,
so they are kind of running out of stuff to ride. Yeah,
ride share and the wheels fall off.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
He might not be able to well, yeah, they might.
Maybe that's why you just sitting on cinderblocks.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
The way the rollercoaster is the bowl, Uh like a
lightning riding a bike when it gets going good again.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah. Jim Morrison rides the snake. This is long seven miles.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Well, unfortunately, I think Kenny Stabler is long gone, but.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Come on ride the train. But he's not much older
than Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
It was I got a little kick out of listening
to Tomlin last night.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
He was ornery after the game.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
He did not want to single out Rogers, and he
tried not to do that a couple of times, as
you just heard. And finally someone said, I would you
assess Aaron Rodgers plate?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
He said, how would you? Would you?

Speaker 9 (25:47):
Fat?

Speaker 10 (25:48):
Lousy, not good, worse than it's been all season.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
They got to get to the bottom of that. Clearly. Uh,
he was no good. And then he also was pissed
when somebody asked him if they should have run the
ball more. And then he just said, look, guys, we
didn't convert on third down. We've been over this a
lot of times this season, but I mean, just.

Speaker 10 (26:11):
The early moments of the game. The deep ball to
Metcalf's second possession, you got a safety on dec that's
a touchdown.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
Now.

Speaker 10 (26:21):
I don't know if his route was perfect at the
end or Rogers just overthrew him, but that play has
to be hit.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
The play to Johnny he was escaping. I mean, yeah,
but does the quarterbacks too.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
I mean, I'm just I'm just giving him a little
leeway on that one.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 10 (26:39):
He's got to be precise. He demands precision. They turn
demanded from him.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Even if you're being generous and saying they're not on
the same page a little late in the season for that,
Why aren't you on the same page with your best receiver?

Speaker 10 (26:54):
Valid point that he missed Johnny Smith on that one
that got replay reviewed in an incompletion that could have
been a touchdown. He at Calvin Austin won on one
deep and even late in the game the fade to Metcalf,
Collins were said that they shouldn't have thrown it. I
disagree one thousand percent. He should have thrown it back
shoulder or up where Metcalf didn't get it, and not
cam Hart. You get DK Metcalf against cam Hart. You

(27:17):
can't exploit that at the pylon for six. If you can't,
you're gonna lose and you're not.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Gonna dust was a big one, I thought.

Speaker 10 (27:26):
I mean, it's there were guys and they targeted Metcalf
seven times. You know, the whole thing about, Oh, everybody's
giving him so much attention, and you know they need
somebody to take the pressure off. Well, that's why you
have Aaron Rodgers, so you can recognize when they're not
giving him so much attention and then you make them
pay for it. But you know, recognizing it and throwing

(27:47):
it to him is not the entire sequence of events
that needs to happen. You actually need to complete the pass.
So you know, if that's who they are, forget it.
Got hope it was the one off, an outlier. I
don't think Rogers turned into a pumpkin last night. I
don't think all of a sudden, oh my god, I'm

(28:08):
forty one. I can't play.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Although it was weird to wake up and it feels
like it's winter. Yes, how's he going to do outside now?
Being a forty one year old in the cold. I
know he's played in Green Bay his whole career, in
New York, in New York, but at a certain point,
like in my life at least, I don't like being
cold anymow.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'm with you, I don't like it now. But I mean,
he just looked to me like a guy who'd been
away from his wife. For eight weeks and then he
got home and the honeydew list was insane.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, and then he's just like fighting.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
He got some action, you know what I mean in
that ruined like a boxer. Yeah, he's walking around with
noodle legs for the rest of the weekend.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
That Yeah, hopefully the darkness treat the old video dome.

Speaker 10 (28:52):
Hopefully you got a chance to get down of the beach,
wrap himself in that blanket, still out of the ocean
before the team playing took off last night.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
That looked like what he was doing on the field
last night.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, a lot of Steeler fans walked into the ocean
after the game.

Speaker 10 (29:04):
If that was defining, they're cooked. Rogers didn't think it was.
Mike Tomlin refused to acknowledge that it was.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
I'm not lacking confidence. I don't need a pad on
the back. We stunk it up tonight. We'll be back.

Speaker 10 (29:21):
We're back Sunday, actressure against Cincinnati, which has I mean it,
ten points.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Ain't going to cut it against that group. No, No, No,
at least Pat Friarmouth will be good next week. Playing
the Bengals.

Speaker 10 (29:34):
Seems to be the historical They're coming off the bye. No,
they're coming off. Oh, yeah they were. They were off yesterday.
They're not the Monday.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
They're coming off.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh it's Eagles and Packers tonight. Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
It's a good one.

Speaker 10 (29:50):
They're coming off losing to the Bears forty seven to
forty two.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, that crazy game, that's what I mean. The Bears
have won a couple crazy ones.

Speaker 10 (29:58):
When they were down fourteen with two minutes and change
left in the game and didn't have the ball, took
the lead and still lost.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And that's a team that really hates itself right now,
Both sides of the ball hate each other. Hmm. That
was And this week feels like I must win game now.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Well yeah, I mean the Bengals are three and six.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
You want to keep pace because the Ravens are probably
gonna win next week.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, I don't know if the Ravens are gonna lose
for a while. Abby Hall will have your news coming
up at the top of the hour. What are you
talking about?

Speaker 4 (30:32):
This actually looked like this was a really good ceremony.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
But we're gonna be a full breakdown of the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame this past weekend.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Nice Tim bens when we come back.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
We got a power hour Steeler talk for you a
little bit later on this morning from Rob King, Voice
of the Steelers. Also Jerry d checking in from Los
Angeles before he flies home.

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Tim Bennz joining us right now from chip Live Sports
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(32:37):
gas last night, Tim, what saith you on the level
of culpability for last night's dismal offensive showing.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
On Rogers significant.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
I thought he was really bad, and I thought it
showed in a lot of ways, not just what he
did or didn't do physically.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
But also some of the decisions he made.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
You know, like, for instance, that safety that he took
wasn't just about an inability to escape Khalil Mack. It
was about an inability to make the right play, the
smart play at the right time, popping out of the
end zone and then back into it. I mean, come on,
once you get beyond the goal line, either take the
sack there at the one or two yard line falling forward,

(33:21):
or throw the ball away. You don't want to take
the sack there. I just thought he was bad all
the way around. In fact, I thought number eight had
come back as Kenny Pickett at one point another during
the course to night.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
It was that bad it was, And I thought it
was predicated on, or at least sort of set off
in motion by sam Alu not being there. And the
offensive line, I thought just was abysmal. And I thought
he was head on a swivel and running scared from
the get go.

Speaker 9 (33:52):
Last night, Yeah, the offensive line regressed. I thought that
during the course of the season, Broderick Joe and Troy Foutan,
who took some significant steps forward, I thought those two
guys both took steps back last night. And you know,
there was an interesting, I would say back and forth

(34:13):
because they didn't do it knowing what the other one said.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
I don't believe.

Speaker 9 (34:15):
But like Mike Tomlin, as you guys alluded to in
the sportscast, was asked about the theory that they should
have run the ball mor and he rolled literally rolled
his eyes and said next at the end of the question.
We responded to it, but said, when you don't stay
on the field on third downs, you don't have enough
downs to run. All right, Well, here's a novel concept.

(34:38):
On some of those third downs. Give the ball to
war and then like you don't have to throw.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
It's not a rule, I think. I look back on it.

Speaker 9 (34:48):
On those first zho of nine third downs that they had,
four of them I believe were third and five or less.
You can give the ball to war in there. And
I think in their eleven third downs that they had
when there were two of eleven, four of them went
to gainwell, either in handoffs or targets, so like those

(35:08):
could be Jalen Warren touches. And it was Rogers who
said that we need to get him involved. Wore so
the coach of the quarterback obviously aren't on the same page.

Speaker 10 (35:19):
There and just to pile on Tim. He's your best
pass protection back. So if he's not in the game
on third down and time is an issue, what's going
on with that?

Speaker 9 (35:33):
Yeah, and Mike, you've heard me complain about this since
training camp started. Like, I like Kenneth Gainwell as a player,
but part of the problem is that he creates redundancy,
especially when Caleb Johnson isn't the first domino that's falling,
as I believe they thought he might be by this
point where they could have war and do the job
that he does very well, which is be the third

(35:54):
down back, and then Gainwell is sort of your third back,
used as necessary and maybe on special teams. But now
you know they're stuck in this rut they've created for
themselves work game. Well has to be the third down guy,
and Warren is the first and second down guy, or frankly,
Warren's best skill set is to play on third downs,
which should just meet his in every down back then,
but that doesn't make sense to them, So you're not

(36:16):
getting the most as you could at a Warren.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Did you think that the defensive effort last night, I
mean they held them to twelve first half points you know,
twenty five overall, it.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Got to him five times.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, it seemed like they picked up where they left
off last week at first Blush, But there were a
whole lot of drops last night that might have made
that defensive effort look a lot different.

Speaker 9 (36:42):
Oh yeah, I don't think the defense walks away from
the sun scaze because.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
Porter drops a pick.

Speaker 9 (36:48):
Instead of that turning into a possession that starts near midfield,
it starts the six and they had the safety, so
that's bad. There was a drop from Dugger, now granted
it was a tip ball, but he had it in
his hands, he didn't secure it. That turns into a
field goal from Dicker because it was in the red zone.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
So there's five points right there on the.

Speaker 9 (37:09):
Scoreboard that happened because of dropped interceptions. And as we
said coming out of the Cleveland game, it was weird
because that was an odd time where they didn't get
interceptions and fumbles and they managed to win the game.
But in a lot of other games this year, if
they don't get interceptions or fumbles, they lose, and I
was a perfect example of that where the turnovers certainly

(37:29):
would have helped him, even though they did some good.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Things in other areas. Now, that said, they didn't get
off the field enough.

Speaker 9 (37:36):
The offense certainly didn't made the defense stand the field,
but the offense didn't get it. The defense didn't get
itself off the field enough. Look, at the time of
possession was thirty seven minutes. They ran something like nineteen
more plays than the Steelers did, so I don't let
the defense entirely off the hook. And oh, by the way,
camani Vidal would have had well over one hundred yards

(37:56):
if he wasn't running into stat boxes to kill the
clock the whole time.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
That was a banged up, tattered offensive line.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
It showed it sometimes in pass protections for La, but
in running the ball it did fine. Like that's enough
of a good game from Kamani vid All for them
to win, and he's the third string running back for them.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And conversely, Tim when the when the Steelers turned the
ball over, it seems like any good team is put
in it in the end zone. I mean last night
you had at least fourteen points off of turnovers for
the Chargers.

Speaker 9 (38:27):
Yeah, one of them was Dante Jackson, just to rub
salt in the wounds, and that.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
Was a tip ball.

Speaker 9 (38:32):
You know, like I talked about before, Granted Dugger had
to come up with a tip.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
He didn't, Dante Jackson did, and yeah, just it seems like.

Speaker 9 (38:41):
The Chargers were much more opportunistic in many, many different
ways last night.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
The Steelers of the drops all over the place.

Speaker 9 (38:49):
Austin dropped the ball, the punt returner Williams he muffed
the punt, so you know, like.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
It was they had the drops, He's all over the place.

Speaker 9 (38:58):
And you know, again k Metcalfs either not getting separation or.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
Not targeted enough.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
And when he was targeted, the plays just didn't work.
Whether that's some bat throws from Rogers or whatever. It
was just an offensive debacle all around.

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