November 10, 2025 • 45 mins
Gerry Dulac worries the offense won't be able to recover from their worst performance of the 2025 season as the schedule continues to get tougher down the stretch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sciences. This is w DV Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's just showing four man rush after what they'll bring
Allen back throwing on a crossing pattern as a man
wide open. It's Latin McConkey, and it's a touchdown for
the charge, which is the twelve seconds remaining here in
the first half. It's a quick slant up the middle
of the field. Mcconsty was wide open, and Herbert put
it right on that.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Pretty much. I thought sunk our playoff hopes this year.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I mean, I know we're not mathematically but I think
that that I think so, I don't know that's or
maybe I just had sinking on the brain. Because today
is the fiftieth anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund
Fitzgerald and I went down the rabbit hole. I didn't
watch any of the afternoon games because I thought they
were going to be all crap.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Turns out, three score of Goami's in the afternoon game.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Oh really, what scores? That have never happened?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Three of them? What are the chances of that at
any rate?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So I went down this rabbit hole and I shared
with you guys one of the documentaries I watched.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
And yeah, it was fascinating, awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I posted him on Twitter if you have any interest
in that stuff, really cool stuff. Every storyline. I can't
believe it's not a Hollywood movie because there's so many
like really intriguing stories about the crew and how that
all went down, and.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Even the bad omen of the woman not being able
to break the champagne bottle against the boat.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Edmund Fitzgerald's wife. She couldn't crack the champagne bottle, which
is bad luck.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Just even learning about his history, like the fact that
he was an insurance guy.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, I know. I thought it was like a war
there's like a war hero.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Turns out he was just like a rich guy and
they're like, let's give Eddie a boat.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
He's like, I'm gonna build the biggest boat that anybody's
ever seen.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And it was. It.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It was so big.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
When they put it in the water, ten thousand people
came to just watch it get pushed into the water.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
And it hit the other side of the thing and
then came back and a guy had a heart attack
and died.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It sunk.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's like, there's so many crazy stories about that ship
that they say was like all right, started off curse,
but it still made it, you know, seventeen years before
it ended up.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
And they ran the whole thing on a PlayStation control.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But it's it's fascinating and anyways I linked that there,
and even the story of Gordon Lightfoot song is really fascinating.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
And and the fact that when that then that ship
was first built, it had all the amenities and people
would go on it and and just take trips on it,
like the the Hoy Paloi.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, it was like it was like a carnival cruise
boat in the late fifties, and they would put executives
on there. They had TVs in their room, which was
a big deal back then, and like oh yeah, carpeted
rooms and everything, and it was like this huge attraction.
I didn't know any of that stuff, no, but either
there's it's fascinating. And it was the last shipwreck on
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the Great Lakes. Wow, there were six thousand before it
and none sense really technology man, Yeah, sonar, radar, all
of that stuff, they don't They didn't have it that day.
You know, all of his radar was out. He didn't
know where he was going, so he probably crashed into
that island. That's probably what happened underneath. He got too
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close and they took on the water, and they.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Spoke to the toughness too. They're like, no, we'll be fine, don't.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Worry about us. Yeah. Literally the last words from the
captain like, we're holding our own.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
What were those locks that they traveled through and traversed
from SIUs Saint Marie. Yeah, I forget what the famous locks,
but they were basically saying that they were the most
guarded locks in the entire country. Because if the Germans
somehow figured out, yeah, to like destroy that that spot
and take out those locks, that we wouldn't have been
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able to continue to build B fifty two's in all
the war machines that we were building to try to
beat the knots.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's really fascinating because they were taking all the iron
ore from like Deluth and taking it down to Detroit
where they were building all that stuff. But the other
staff that they had that's kind of remarkable. It's like
if you knocked out the Great Lakes freighting, that would
knock out the third biggest GDP in the world. Like
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that's how much commerce is happening on that thing.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
It's crazy. So that had no idea.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Either, did I and the Fitzgerald's was that was the
granddaddy of them all.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I just thought it was a boat, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I didn't know it had all of this lord, so
I thought it was just one that went down. And
then you see all the stories of the people who
were on and stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You're like, oh, man, oh.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, the one guy's uncle, the woman's dad.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I mean that's the other thing hearing from survivors because
you think it's like such ancient history or from not survivors,
but you know, the daughters of the people that perish.
And she's like, yeah, I was twelve years old and
we're watching the news and Tom Brocoss comes on the
news and says, there was a freighter that went down
last night in the Lake Superior, the Edmund Fitzgerald, and
my mom.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Said, time time to go to bed.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You're like, so like it just personalized it all, yea,
all like oh god, now now I really have like this,
like I don't know, feeling of reverence for that whole thing.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I don't know what it is, definitely, and just the
fact that even as recent as Tom Brokaw, we didn't
have technology, Like there was no pictures of that ship.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
It was like a drawing.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well that was yeah, that was on the CBS when
they had it looked like like the graphic they have
behind the new for It wasn't Cronkite. I think it
was Harry Reasoner and yes, that's who it was. And
he's like that ship went down last night and like superior,
and behind him is a crudely drawn ship like going
like plug plug plug, Like it looked like a poster
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board for a comic book.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Like steamboat Willie.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, right, like yeah, thirty people died out.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You're like, well, Jesus, that's kind of heavy to have
like a cartoon of you know, a boat like whoah,
you know, look like Looney Tunes almost.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But were you.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Surprised that there's only twenty nine people to make a
ship that size? Go, I guess yeah. I mean just
the size of that thing. They said it was like
hundred feet long on its side. If you turned it
straight up, it would be as tall as the biggest
skyscraper in Cleveland or something or yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I don't know, I don't remember that part of it,
but it was it was deeper, it was the water
was shallower than that boat was big. It sunk in
five hundred and thirty feet water, which Lake Superior goes
to sixteen hundred feet for reference. Lake Eries like two
hundred at its deepest point. Man, that's how deep leaps
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Lake Superior is.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Anyways, there's you can just go on YouTube and go
down the rabbit hole if you want to, cause it's
really fun. I never knew any of that stuff, and
you'll hear that song a few times this weekend or
this week. But I'm shocked at Billy Strings didn't play
it on Saturday night at PPG Paints Arena because he
has played it before and just kills it. And he's
not playing tonight, which is the day of the ship sunk.
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So I would have thought we would have got that
on Saturday night, but mattered not because that was one
of the greatest shows I've ever seen. And I just
got to tell you go see Billy Strings if you
like just musicianship, you don't even have to like bluegrass
or jam grass or whatever. Him his abilities and his
band is unlike anything I've ever seen. They are so
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tight and they have so many killer ideas that they
execute at an expert level. And he's always been a
badass guitar player, but his singing now is like he
might be one of the best singers in bluegrass, and
his band is The harmonies are pitch perfect, They are incredible.
It was so fun and it'll never not make me laugh.
(07:57):
How many balloons are just filling up side the PBG
pants arena and that operation, Man, that is impressive.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
They got lookouts.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Going, and you know they're around the corner like they
were down by the Super Bowl wherever you needed to
get balloons.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
They were all over the.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Place, a bunch of fifty year olds looking like they're
in the movie Up.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yes, exactly, Yes, no doubt about it. And they were
definitely up and an amazing show. I'm sad I miss
Friday Night after that.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Can I ask you a question about billy strings?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
How cause I don't understand jamming and bluegrass enough. How
can you be like a jam band guy and also
be tight?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well that's the key. When you're not, you're a mess.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know, it's like jazz basically, same principles, like.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Inside the structure, but there's a definite.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Structure and then you just kind of have to know
when you're coming out of the free form part into
the CADI five part, like here's the structure part, and
you all have to hit that queue. And it can
be as simple as sometimes that they're just nodding to
each other. Sometimes they just understand that it's hit the
crescendo and it's time for it to like go right
back into that. And that's the tension and release that
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makes people love that kind of music.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Because you get lost in it and then all of
a sudden you're like, can you get your way back?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You're kind of rooting for him, like where's he going?
How's this going to get back there? And when they
pull it off, you're like, oh, that was a great journey.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
That was funny.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Anyways, Abby's got some updates for you here on the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremonies.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
And is this hour brought to you by Windownation Clouds
with a couple of snow showers and I have thirty
nine today. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame held its
fortieth induction ceremony on Saturday night in Los Angeles and
reminded to be eligible for nomination, artists are required to
have really released their first record twenty five years prior
to induction. So this year it was Bad Company, Joe Cocker, Soundgarden,
Cindy Laupper, the White Stripes, Chuggy Chubby, Chuggy Checker, Chuggy
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Hubby Checker and Outcasts, which, by the way, I saw
like nothing on Chubby Checker to.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Do the twist, That's what I mean.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
Like, I saw like no recap of him whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, he's a fraud and he should have never got
in the end and we're done there.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That's Domino, that's it. No Chubby Checker, the guy literally
stole a name, didn't do it. His zero contribution other
than somebody wrote a hit for him.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Anyways, I still would have.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Loved to have seen Husky tittlely winks, you know. In Ductor.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Last hour we already talked about Warren Zevon and we
were getting into the White Stripes. Meg White did not
go to the ceremony. She really has not been seen
in public for about fifteen years. But their induction was
by Iggy Pop, who is a fellow Michigan Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame member himself, and actually he kind
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of did what we were all thinking whenever he started
his speech, I gotta get this.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Out of my system.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Don't don't don't, don't du do do?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I love Iggy Pop? Is just like tell me of
ADHD was telling.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You her Jack White. Does it get any better than
Iggy Pop introducing him?
Speaker 9 (11:21):
That's absolutely perfect. Jack had a great speech. It's a
little long here, but I kind of figured he was
going to speak to the artists of today, To the.
Speaker 10 (11:32):
Young artists, I want to say, get your hands dirty
and drop the screens and get out in your garage
or your little room and get obsessed. Get obsessed with
something you know, get passing it. We all want to
share in what you might create. Lastly, I was gonna
send this to Meg, but I didn't get around to it,
(11:52):
so I thought i'd read it to you all tonight.
One time a girl climbed a tree, and in that
tree was a boy, her brother, she thought, And the
tree looked so glorious and beautiful, but it was just
an oak tree. And these two so loved the world
that they brought forth a parade float. One they built
in their garage behind the oak tree with their own
(12:13):
bare hands. And the boy looked at this giant Pepperman
on wheels and felt pride, pride that it was produced
in the motor city, just like in the big factories,
but it was just in their garage. He looked at
the girl, his sister, he thought, and like the little rascals,
they said, let's put on a show. And they paraded
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this float through the cast corridor, standing atop the peppermint,
pulled by white horses, or maybe it was a ready
canoline van. And many of the blocks they traveled were empty,
but some had people, and some of those people cheered,
and some laughed, and some even threw stones, and with
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their bare hands, the two started to clap and sing
and make up songs, and some people kept watching and
swaying and moving, and then one person even smiled, and
the boy and the girl looked at each other, and
they also smiled, and they felt they.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Both felt the sin of pride.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
What they kept on smiling, smiling from a new freedom,
knowing that they had shared and made another person feel something.
And they thought the person smiling at them was a stranger,
someone they didn't even know. But it wasn't just a stranger.
It was God, my sister, Thanks you, and I thank you,
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
All very much.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It had been funny.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And then an hour down the road, two other boys
in Akron completely copied everything that we did.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
They also build a peppermin colored it black and thought
it was different.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And then they sold all their songs to cars. And
then they went to the same school Nashville after I did.
They've been following me, not whole live.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
That was beautiful, though, Man, that's like a that's a
children's book. He should publish that. He's good at stuff
like that. I mean, Jack White, I think is a
true artist. I think that his appreciation of Meg has
been great post White White Stripes.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I don't know how what the dynamic was like when
they were together. I don't know how well they got
along and how you know, because it's it must have
been hard to get divorced, yeah, and then be in
a band together, and I don't know how amicable.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Sometimes that's not hard.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Sometimes it's like we both agree that this is what
needs to happen and we should be friends. But I
don't know anything about Meg other than it seems like
she has just been terrified to speak.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
Seems like it's by design that we don't know anything
about probably better. Yeah, And Jack famously does seem to
stay friends with his exes. He's, you know, very famous
for having that divorce party with Karen Elson.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Time.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
He's doing TikTok with her now. And they're very real
their parents, right, yeah, their parents, and so they do
tiktoks with their daughter. Sometimes she did a walk at
a fashion show and they were doing like tiktoks with
her and everything. So it seems like he's very pro
stang being an adult.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
How about it? Everybody now?
Speaker 9 (15:18):
Providing the musical tribute to the White Stripes were Olivia
Rodrigo and Feist.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
They actually did an acoustic version of We're going to
be friends.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
We all notice anything, We side my son every This
is great? Do you you thinks that I so funny?
Speaker 11 (15:38):
What you say?
Speaker 12 (15:41):
Silly?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Thus go through mine about the books.
Speaker 12 (15:52):
Enough of it went away tomorrow you're li walked getting again.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I already liked Navia RB.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
I love Feist.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I don't know her.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
That really got me into Olivia.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I love she's like Canadian cat power. Cat power, Yes,
that's yeah, but she's Feist.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Is when the lead singer of Tragically hip died the
first show they did with you know, the surviving members.
Feist sang for them like she's well regarded in Canada.
She had that song you definitely know that something two
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keep going, oh you know it a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And then also this.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Was a big moment.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Put your hand in your mouth, scratch your head like
a monkey. Now get out through the dance.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Take your pants off. I'm getting it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Take my hands off, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And then this is a big moment of the night.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
Twenty one pilots had their take on seven Nation Army.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
All the worlds amably for me, I will think no
more vocally, damn dead nuts any.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
Stage, tell me come back.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Maybe, James, Yeah, do something different with it. I mean,
show Jack White that you kind of took his speech
to heart and get obsessed with something, and you.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Know I I do like that, get obsessed with something.
And there aren't they from Columbus. They are so that
nice little tie in again, why not staying you know
in the Midwest there, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
I do want to get to Soundgarden.
Speaker 9 (18:47):
I feel like that was one of the big marquee
things of the evening. Third band from Seattle's grunge scene
to be inducted following Nirvana.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
And Pearl Jam. We still need to get to Alison Chains.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
We'll get there at some point, but they've been eligible
since twenty thirteen, so this year. Matt Cameron, by the way,
also is already in because he's in with Pearl Jam.
But alongside Cameron, their original bassist hero Yamamoto got in.
His permanent replacement, Ben Sheppard got in, Kim Sale, and
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then of course their late singer Chris Cornell.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
But Jim Carrey gave the induction speech, and I.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
Thought he actually it was an odd choice in one regard,
but he did an amazing speech.
Speaker 13 (19:32):
That track was the ultimate example of Chris Cornell's prolific songwriting.
It felt like he had given us an all access
pass to some monumental apocalyptic dream he was having. He
had a deeply authentic presence. When you looked into his eyes,
it was like Eternity was staring back sadly on a
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shocking night.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
In twenty seventeen, Chris left us.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
We lost a very special being, a monumental musical artist
and an inspired innovator. But for all time his voice
will continue to light up the ether like a Tesla
coil an I apologize.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
He was talking about black Hole Son when he was
saying that track, so he was talking about that being
like a way of really looking into Chris cornell soul,
which again, that's an incredible song and maybe one of
the most iconic in their catalog. Taylor Momson, which oddly enough,
Jim Carrey played opposite in the Branch. She was Cindy
lu who she is now in the band The Pretty Reckless,
and this is a little snippet of her singing Rusty
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Cage and it also had Pearl Jim's Mike McCready on guitar.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Her voice is so freaking.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Cool this one I love though I hope that sounds
a little bit better on this one. Taylor is also
on this one, but Brandy Carlyle and this was like
a record store day thing that happened where she did
black Hole Sun. Alison Chain's guitarist Jerry Contrell is on
this and also hero Yamamoto is also performing as well.
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But take a listen, stupid like I love her. I
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love her too. She's on my list of artists to see.
But the I mean very heart tugging moment as well.
Tony Cornell, which is Chris's daughter came out to do
fell on Black Days and this was with Heart's Nancy
Wilson on acoustic guitar, and then they also had a
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cellist on stage.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Can Dom sever.
Speaker 13 (23:07):
Purchase so so they say I can't see in the.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Nice sat Mucketa.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
A lot of really good stuff from the ceremony.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
It is available to stream on Disney Plus and Hulu
and then ABC is also going to air a condensed
version on January first. Some of the things that we
didn't get to this hour, maybe we can get to
it tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Joe Cocker Tribute.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
Which had just amazing people, Tedesky Trucks, Teddy Swims, Chris
Robinson was on that really good stuff from Cindy Lapper,
the Bad Company stuff. Also, I really actually like what
they did with outcasts. They had a bunch of people
jump up to nell mony did some stuff. So we
can kind of table that for tomorrow because I know
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we got a lot of Steelers talk to get to.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
But we do like joining us in just a little
bit here live what we have Him or not you
I thought you were doing the no. Hi, hey Jacobs,
We're just glad you got home from Penn State in
one piece without getting your arse beat wearing all that
Indiana gear?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
How how was that?
Speaker 12 (24:27):
By the way, And I was just scratching my head
in my bad I mean to that, But yeah, it
was a great weekend. It would no confrontations you stayed.
Would have would have been a tough ride home had
the game gone in the other way.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yes, because for the record, Jacobs and are you grad Yeah,
most of our listeners would be more Penn State leaning,
just in case they didn't know, because they're like.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
What do you mean it didn't go the right Yeah,
like it went the wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Way, And they waited till the end of the game
with the best catch that's ever been made to pull
off the victory.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And the Gus Johnson call, the Gus Johnson call, Oh
my god, this.
Speaker 12 (25:06):
Is apoplectic, but draft the whole fourth quarter, I mean luckily,
I mean I know some people are off of Gush Johnson.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I wasn't able to hear him because I was at
the game. Well here it is, Mendoza, they shut up.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That drove me down.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Sounds like a drunk Harry carry.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
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Jerry Doulac from the Steelers Audio Network joining us right
now from Los Angeles. Jerry coach Tomlin didn't even want
to step up to defend Aaron Rodgers game last night.
That's how poorly the veteran play caller played last night.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
Yeah, when he was asked, you know, what did you think? Basically,
what did you think of his performance, he said, what
did you think can Yeah, obviously he didn't play well
at the end of that was that was one of
his worst performances actually in a long time. I mean,
I think his completion percentage was the worse since twenty
twenty one. You know, it was as his passer rating
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was the lowest since a game last season with the Jets,
And yeah, it wasn't It.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Wasn't very good.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
And you know, he ends up with what one hundred
and sixty one yards and sixty five came on that
final possession, So yeah, it was pretty anemic. There's no
question about it. Overthrowing game well out in the flat,
you know. And then it's the poor either call or
decision to throw at the DK metcalf when it was
double covered down from the four or six or wherever
(27:39):
they were. And yeah, it was certainly wasn't a game
of highlights, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yeah, And it's tough to criticize play calling when nothing
seems to be working right, because how do you know
anything's going to work correctly? But I just can't understand
why they don't just try to win on the back
of Jalen war in first and they did three and
out with three throws to begin the game after the
honor speed false start, And it just baffles me because
(28:08):
he's the one guy who just seems like there's desperation
in every play for Jalen Warren.
Speaker 11 (28:16):
You know, yeah, you're right about that, Randall. And you know,
we saw them start last week with three passes and
I'll go back to the was it the Green Bay
game where they were running the ball well in the
first half. They come out to start of the second half.
You know, it's their leading sixteen to seven, and they
throw three straight passes and you know, the same thing again.
(28:38):
And I mean, you know, our teams just loading the
box right off the bat. I'll be honest, I don't
sit there and watch to see, Okay, are they loading
the box for these first couple of plays, because I
don't expect them to do that, come out and throw
like that. But I mean, I understand you want to
be aggressive, but that's that's been overly aggressive way too
(28:59):
early in the games. So yeah, I don't know. But
Jalen Warren just, I mean, he just proves time and
again he's you know, he's kind of he's a beast
in there.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Boy.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
He makes a lot of plays, whether it's you know,
catching the ball or running the ball, and he didn't
have a lot of success early, but they got it going.
And yeah, he's he's the one guy who's been very,
very good. Question.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It is head scratching.
Speaker 14 (29:20):
You look at that stat sheet and there's uggly numbers
all across the board except Jalen Moore in fourteen carries
seventy yards five point zero average, and the team averaged
four point six on the ground on sixteen carries. Now,
they'll always tell you why we didn't convert third downs? No,
maybe run more on first and second down. Maybe that
fixes it.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (29:40):
That's something they got to get to the bottom of.
It's not the only thing, but it's something, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
Mike, And you know fourteen that you know, professes to be,
you know, to want to run the ball, and so
then when they do run the ball. But you know,
I'll just go backward to when they brought Aaron Rodgers in.
You know, I like to use Berry Bradshaw's old line.
You know, Rogers isn't a maleman. He's a gunslinger and
he's going to throw the football. Unfortunately, he didn't throw
(30:08):
it very well last night, and you know that's two
games in a row. Now for the offense, you know,
it was just pretty anemic. Look, they were lucky last week,
they got a short field into their credit. They converted
those turnovers, those takeaways into touchdowns, but you know they
had their offensive production was a nemic last week and
it was even worse this week.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
He's also old, like us ja is it as simple
as the sky doesn't like playing night games. I mean
it's bedtime and all of a sudden we're kicking.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The ball off.
Speaker 11 (30:40):
You know, Billy. What I'm worried about too is you
know you saw this with Brett Farb you know, late
in his career that when you got the cold weather games. Now,
look he's certainly accustomed to that playing in Green Bay,
but not when he was aged forty two, and he's
going to be forty two in December, and you know,
it becomes it that it becomes another ballgame.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
There is.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
You know, handling, handling the cold weather when you're older.
Anybody who's older cats it tougher it.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Is to get moving.
Speaker 11 (31:11):
But well, you know there Tam, You know, Mike Tommins
record in October, in November is pretty darn good so far,
not the case. Losing three to the last four. I
say take them off prime time.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Prime Time. That's what I'm saying, prime time. Three games now.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Considered, that them go back, go back.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
Five weeks against against the league. Go ahead, Jerry, I'm
just going to say, the rest of the leagues looking
at them in primetime ago, they.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Ain't very good.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No, But to your point about Aaron Rodgers five weeks
ago against the Browns one passer rating against the Bengals
one O three Packers, one O one Colts ninety five,
Chargers fifty. Now, I don't think the next one drops
the zero. But these performances were slowly sliding downward. Last
(32:04):
night was an abysmal one.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
But the Bengals defense is just what the doctor ordered.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Let's hope that's right. They have been putting up a
lot of points, though they had that. They're coming off
a bye two weeks ago they lost. They scored forty
two points against the Bears and lost.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
Yeah, and to Billy's point, that's probably the best thing
for their offenses playing the Bengals defense. But if they
go lay an egg this week against that defense, you know,
then then you're going to start to worry. Look, I
didn't see too many open receivers yesterday. I'm certainly not
laying the blame there, but just the whole way around it,
it just it wasn't very good. Other than Jalen Warren.
(32:44):
You know, Pat Farmouth proves to be the one guy
who can make plays. And as crazy as it sounds,
the most productive receiver they've had in terms of scoring
has been Roman Wilson, and so you know, it just
it just was discombobulated from to start, and that's the
way they look. They I don't want to say they
played disinterested. They just played out of sync from from
(33:06):
the get go. And it started when you know, with
that h with that safety he had to take an
ends on when he ran into Fontano and dropped the ball.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Jerry.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
Was there much if any talk in the locker room
about what clearly was a failed experiment of trying Anders
Pete at left guard so you could keep uh Spencer
Anderson available to be eligible, and how they kept changing
that up.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And it's just I don't think it helped us.
Speaker 11 (33:31):
Put that way, well, it certainly didn't help right off
the bat when he takes the fall start County when
his first game that he plays. But I haven't had
a chance to talk to the coaches in terms of
what they wanted to do and what they what they
were thinking. But you know, they want to run. They
want to run that uh that heavy package with Spencer Anderson.
You would think maybe they might try somebody else in
(33:54):
that role as opposed to taking Anderson out of the
left guard spot and having him do that. But uh,
you know, I don't, I don't know, Like everything, everything
that they were doing was just out of sync. And
you know it started with the quarterback and you know
you have to you have to convert some third down
plays once again, the play disparity was uh, you know,
(34:15):
was incredible. Uh many chart plays the Charges ran as
opposed to the Steelers, and it would have looked a
whole lot worse if they didn't get that touchdown at
the end. It was bad enough that just that just
eased some of the discomfort of watching them play. That
is for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Any word on the Sam Willow injury. Might he be
back for the Bengals game.
Speaker 11 (34:34):
No. The only thing I could say Randall and Mike
and I talked about this in the pregame show, is
that you know this time last week, or at least
in terms of Sunday. Uh, he played. He didn't last long,
but he played. The fact that he didn't play tells
me that this Sunday he was worse than he was
the previous Sunday. And you know, last year he missed
(34:54):
three games with that peck injury. I don't I don't
know how long he's going to be out, but all
I can presume is that his injury was worse this
week than it was the previous week.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Jerry Dulac Steelers Audio Network brought to you by Always Say
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Speaker 11 (35:18):
Yeah, thanks man. I just hope everything's reliable today.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Well, I think you got a couple more weeks before
it all goes to hell. You'll be fine, You'll be fine. Thanks,
all right, buddy, we'll see Abby's well. Unfortunately we can't
get to any more of the rock and roll Hall
of Fame stuff today. Well, we'll do it tomorrow. We
got Rob King coming in for a power out of
Steeler talk. But Mike pursued a guy just threw twenty
five to ten chargers over the Steelers when we return
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Speaker 4 (36:28):
No, whatever you do, I'm making these guys listen to
these Edmund Fitzgerald between commercial breaks.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Oh no, I can tell you guys love it.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I actually do.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Though.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
There's differing opinions, you know, and hearing all these different
opinions about why the FitzGeralds sunk is interesting. But it introduced, uh,
some terminology that none of us had been familiar with,
and one of them is that the boat cracked in
half and then like uh, like like a bridge going up,
it cracked in half, not like down, and so that's
(37:04):
called when it goes up. So the two halves like
point up after it cracks in half, that's called hogging.
Like yeah, like hogging. And I'd never heard that before
as a turn Yeah. He and then the one guy
keeps going he hogged the boat. He's not, he's hogging
right now. And then that's what happened. And then it
(37:26):
cracked in half, and before they knew it, they sunk
five hundred feet down. That's why all of the life
and also it was too rough to get in life
boats apparently. Oh yeah, so they just I mean, those
dudes all they're all toast and they're all down there still, all.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Of them crazy.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
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Speaker 1 (37:48):
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Speaker 14 (37:51):
Plain's offense was the problem in the Steelers twenty five
ten stinker last night in LA but TJ. Watt didn't
want to give the defense a pass.
Speaker 15 (37:59):
Inconsistent could be too much up and down, not enough.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Steeler football.
Speaker 15 (38:06):
I mean, we can't continue to live and die by
the turnovers as a defense. We need to get off
the field and you stop the run critical third downs
when you do better job of and no excuse for it.
You need to play better.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Over there.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Last night they had a couple turnovers that they couldn't
get their mits on.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Fully.
Speaker 14 (38:25):
Yeah, the offense couldn't complete a pass, not on third
down of any rate, not until it was way too late, dude.
Speaker 16 (38:33):
It's probably midway to the fourth quarter before we converted a
third down. And you're not gonna win football games not
converting third down and losing the turnover battle. And we
certainly would loose with the ball in several instances and
didn't convert enough third downs, and so that's the end result.
It's nothing mystical about it.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I appreciate t J.
Speaker 14 (38:52):
Watt holding the defense accountable, and yeah, that Joey Porter
dropped interception could have been a game changing play. But
this defense gave up thirteen points through three quarters and
the Chargers' scoring drives were fifty one, thirty eight and
thirty six yards.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Turnovers man offense they capitalized on. The turnover offense just.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Has to be better, I mean way better.
Speaker 14 (39:18):
Still wouldn't be what they're going to need to be
at some point, but where they are right now that
this was just off the charts bad, starting with quarterback
Aaron Rodgers, who had a night to forget and acknowledged
it as such.
Speaker 15 (39:32):
Defense played really well tonight, and offensively we were pretty bad.
So we got to find a way to get open
on third down.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I got to find a way to hit them.
Speaker 14 (39:42):
And because that was just some bad ball, Yeah it was.
It was interesting to me that the Chargers, really, I thought,
had a great game plan for what they had to
work with along the offensive line, and most of the
damage Herbert was doing through the first three quarters was
sideways passing and just yacking it out. You know, it
(40:04):
looked like kind of how the Steelers were playing it
early in the season.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
And because he was under duress, I mean, the Steelers
were getting after him.
Speaker 14 (40:13):
They know how many times he's been hit this year,
and they know who they had playing offensive tackle, and
they know what the Steelers rush is capable of, and
they worked around it. And I thought their coaches had
the better night of the two staffs agreed.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Although execution was so poor on the Steelers end of things,
it's hard to really assess the game. Yeah, Yeah, it's
a fair point, but that falls on coaching too.
Speaker 14 (40:38):
Hit a couple of passes early and maybe it's a
different game, but they they never figured out a plan
b other than have Rogers try to navigate the pocket and.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Throw under duress.
Speaker 14 (40:50):
And the running game thing is, I get that you're
not running a lot of plays and oh for nine
on third downs not going to cut it, but they
keep appearing to have gotten away from the run too
early or not gone to it enough. And they got
to solve that too.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
In that Green Bay game, what did they have in
the second half?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Three rushes worn at three rushes.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
One in the third quarter and that's when they were up.
They're still in the game.
Speaker 14 (41:19):
You're up, You're up what nine at halftime last night?
You know Chargers weren't running away and hiding. I mean,
Steelers couldn't get anything going, but they were within reach.
You could have you could have just kept pounding and
kept pounding it.
Speaker 11 (41:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (41:35):
It's always frustrating after a loss. But they better figure
it out quick because the Bengals coming to town Sunday.
They've been pretty consistent since Flacco got there. They can
light you up and their defense stinks, so you know,
I wouldn't go into this game thinking you're gonna win
sixteen to ten.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Bengals football enjoy half of it?
Speaker 14 (42:00):
No, but I mean the two receivers are Sick and
Flacco he's they can enjoy half of it. Flacco is
doing what Rogers has pretty much done up until last
night anyway. But he's he's reading the defense, he's he's
activating the playmakers, he's getting.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
He's being decisive.
Speaker 14 (42:18):
He's getting the ball out and getting it where it
needs to go, and he's given his guys a chance
to make plays.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
The problem is that the Steelers don't have anybody as
good as Chase and Higgins.
Speaker 14 (42:29):
They don't, but there was some place to be made
last night. The second possession misfired a metcalf deep. I mean,
I just said the Bengals, or excuse me, the Chargers
coaches had the better night. Arthur Smith got DK Metcalf
one all one against the safety.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's got to be a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Jerry doesn't think so. Jerry thinks he shouldn't have thrown it.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
He was talking about he was talking about the pig.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Oh I'm sorry, Okay, yeah, you were talking about where
he threw it was that.
Speaker 14 (43:00):
There's some talk about double coverage there. The safety's not
getting over and going out of bounds and getting on
the other side of them, and the safety's not jumping
on the cornerback's shoulders.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I think the safety can take away.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
If he's leading him high, that safety might be able
to get there.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, I don't think he does.
Speaker 14 (43:18):
Rogers said he should have thrown it back shoulder or
thrown it to the other side of the field. I
think back shoulder scores there.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Well, back shoulder gets you PI there is what is
what happens.
Speaker 14 (43:30):
I think jump ball scores there. I don't care how
many guys they got there. They're not as big as Metcalf.
Just let him go up and get it. Looked like
he threw it relatively on a line and the cornerback
had inside position and Metcalf's trying to reach around him,
similar to the one against the Colts where he kind
of threw it low the fade into the would.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Just think this is supposed to be his specialty. This
is supposed to be the thing he's good at. We're
not asking you to throw the ball seventy yards. We're
asking for the touch, the precision that you're famous for
wall placement.
Speaker 11 (44:03):
Uh.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's just showing four man rush after what they'll bring
Allen back throwing on a crossing pattern as a man
wide open. It's Latin McConkey, and it's a touchdown for
the charge, which is the twelve seconds remaining here in
the first half. It's a quick slant up the middle
of the field. Mcconsty was wide open, and Herbert put
it right on that.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Pretty much. I thought sunk our playoff hopes this year.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I mean, I know we're not mathematically but I think
that that I think so, I don't know that's or
maybe I just had sinking on the brain. Because today
is the fiftieth anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund
Fitzgerald and I went down the rabbit hole. I didn't
watch any of the afternoon games because I thought they
were going to be all crap.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Turns out, three score of Goami's in the afternoon game.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Oh really, what scores? That have never happened?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Three of them? What are the chances of that at
any rate?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So I went down this rabbit hole and I shared
with you guys one of the documentaries I watched.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
And yeah, it was fascinating, awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I posted him on Twitter if you have any interest
in that stuff, really cool stuff. Every storyline. I can't
believe it's not a Hollywood movie because there's so many
like really intriguing stories about the crew and how that
all went down, and.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Even the bad omen of the woman not being able
to break the champagne bottle against the boat.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Edmund Fitzgerald's wife. She couldn't crack the champagne bottle, which
is bad luck.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Just even learning about his history, like the fact that
he was an insurance guy.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, I know. I thought it was like a war
there's like a war hero.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Turns out he was just like a rich guy and
they're like, let's give Eddie a boat.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
He's like, I'm gonna build the biggest boat that anybody's
ever seen.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And it was. It.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It was so big.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
When they put it in the water, ten thousand people
came to just watch it get pushed into the water.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
And it hit the other side of the thing and
then came back and a guy had a heart attack
and died.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It sunk.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's like, there's so many crazy stories about that ship
that they say was like all right, started off curse,
but it still made it, you know, seventeen years before
it ended up.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
And they ran the whole thing on a PlayStation control.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But it's it's fascinating and anyways I linked that there,
and even the story of Gordon Lightfoot song is really fascinating.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
And and the fact that when that then that ship
was first built, it had all the amenities and people
would go on it and and just take trips on it,
like the the Hoy Paloi.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, it was like it was like a carnival cruise
boat in the late fifties, and they would put executives
on there. They had TVs in their room, which was
a big deal back then, and like oh yeah, carpeted
rooms and everything, and it was like this huge attraction.
I didn't know any of that stuff, no, but either
there's it's fascinating. And it was the last shipwreck on
(02:58):
the Great Lakes. Wow, there were six thousand before it
and none sense really technology man, Yeah, sonar, radar, all
of that stuff, they don't They didn't have it that day.
You know, all of his radar was out. He didn't
know where he was going, so he probably crashed into
that island. That's probably what happened underneath. He got too
(03:20):
close and they took on the water, and they.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Spoke to the toughness too. They're like, no, we'll be fine, don't.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Worry about us. Yeah. Literally the last words from the
captain like, we're holding our own.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
What were those locks that they traveled through and traversed
from SIUs Saint Marie. Yeah, I forget what the famous locks,
but they were basically saying that they were the most
guarded locks in the entire country. Because if the Germans
somehow figured out, yeah, to like destroy that that spot
and take out those locks, that we wouldn't have been
(03:54):
able to continue to build B fifty two's in all
the war machines that we were building to try to
beat the knots.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's really fascinating because they were taking all the iron
ore from like Deluth and taking it down to Detroit
where they were building all that stuff. But the other
staff that they had that's kind of remarkable. It's like
if you knocked out the Great Lakes freighting, that would
knock out the third biggest GDP in the world. Like
(04:20):
that's how much commerce is happening on that thing.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
It's crazy. So that had no idea.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Either, did I and the Fitzgerald's was that was the
granddaddy of them all.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I just thought it was a boat, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I didn't know it had all of this lord, so
I thought it was just one that went down. And
then you see all the stories of the people who
were on and stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You're like, oh, man, oh.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, the one guy's uncle, the woman's dad.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I mean that's the other thing hearing from survivors because
you think it's like such ancient history or from not survivors,
but you know, the daughters of the people that perish.
And she's like, yeah, I was twelve years old and
we're watching the news and Tom Brocoss comes on the
news and says, there was a freighter that went down
last night in the Lake Superior, the Edmund Fitzgerald, and
my mom.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Said, time time to go to bed.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You're like, so like it just personalized it all, yea,
all like oh god, now now I really have like this,
like I don't know, feeling of reverence for that whole thing.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I don't know what it is, definitely, and just the
fact that even as recent as Tom Brokaw, we didn't
have technology, Like there was no pictures of that ship.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
It was like a drawing.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well that was yeah, that was on the CBS when
they had it looked like like the graphic they have
behind the new for It wasn't Cronkite. I think it
was Harry Reasoner and yes, that's who it was. And
he's like that ship went down last night and like superior,
and behind him is a crudely drawn ship like going
like plug plug plug, Like it looked like a poster
(05:52):
board for a comic book.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Like steamboat Willie.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, right, like yeah, thirty people died out.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You're like, well, Jesus, that's kind of heavy to have
like a cartoon of you know, a boat like whoah,
you know, look like Looney Tunes almost.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But were you.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Surprised that there's only twenty nine people to make a
ship that size? Go, I guess yeah. I mean just
the size of that thing. They said it was like
hundred feet long on its side. If you turned it
straight up, it would be as tall as the biggest
skyscraper in Cleveland or something or yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I don't know, I don't remember that part of it,
but it was it was deeper, it was the water
was shallower than that boat was big. It sunk in
five hundred and thirty feet water, which Lake Superior goes
to sixteen hundred feet for reference. Lake Eries like two
hundred at its deepest point. Man, that's how deep leaps
(06:49):
Lake Superior is.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Anyways, there's you can just go on YouTube and go
down the rabbit hole if you want to, cause it's
really fun. I never knew any of that stuff, and
you'll hear that song a few times this weekend or
this week. But I'm shocked at Billy Strings didn't play
it on Saturday night at PPG Paints Arena because he
has played it before and just kills it. And he's
not playing tonight, which is the day of the ship sunk.
(07:14):
So I would have thought we would have got that
on Saturday night, but mattered not because that was one
of the greatest shows I've ever seen. And I just
got to tell you go see Billy Strings if you
like just musicianship, you don't even have to like bluegrass
or jam grass or whatever. Him his abilities and his
band is unlike anything I've ever seen. They are so
(07:36):
tight and they have so many killer ideas that they
execute at an expert level. And he's always been a
badass guitar player, but his singing now is like he
might be one of the best singers in bluegrass, and
his band is The harmonies are pitch perfect, They are incredible.
It was so fun and it'll never not make me laugh.
(07:57):
How many balloons are just filling up side the PBG
pants arena and that operation, Man, that is impressive.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
They got lookouts.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Going, and you know they're around the corner like they
were down by the Super Bowl wherever you needed to
get balloons.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
They were all over the.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Place, a bunch of fifty year olds looking like they're
in the movie Up.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yes, exactly, Yes, no doubt about it. And they were
definitely up and an amazing show. I'm sad I miss
Friday Night after that.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Can I ask you a question about billy strings?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
How cause I don't understand jamming and bluegrass enough. How
can you be like a jam band guy and also
be tight?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well that's the key. When you're not, you're a mess.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know, it's like jazz basically, same principles, like.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Inside the structure, but there's a definite.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Structure and then you just kind of have to know
when you're coming out of the free form part into
the CADI five part, like here's the structure part, and
you all have to hit that queue. And it can
be as simple as sometimes that they're just nodding to
each other. Sometimes they just understand that it's hit the
crescendo and it's time for it to like go right
back into that. And that's the tension and release that
(09:09):
makes people love that kind of music.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Because you get lost in it and then all of
a sudden you're like, can you get your way back?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You're kind of rooting for him, like where's he going?
How's this going to get back there? And when they
pull it off, you're like, oh, that was a great journey.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
That was funny.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Anyways, Abby's got some updates for you here on the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremonies.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
And is this hour brought to you by Windownation Clouds
with a couple of snow showers and I have thirty
nine today. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame held its
fortieth induction ceremony on Saturday night in Los Angeles and
reminded to be eligible for nomination, artists are required to
have really released their first record twenty five years prior
to induction. So this year it was Bad Company, Joe Cocker, Soundgarden,
Cindy Laupper, the White Stripes, Chuggy Chubby, Chuggy Checker, Chuggy
(09:53):
Hubby Checker and Outcasts, which, by the way, I saw
like nothing on Chubby Checker to.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Do the twist, That's what I mean.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
Like, I saw like no recap of him whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, he's a fraud and he should have never got
in the end and we're done there.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That's Domino, that's it. No Chubby Checker, the guy literally
stole a name, didn't do it. His zero contribution other
than somebody wrote a hit for him.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Anyways, I still would have.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Loved to have seen Husky tittlely winks, you know. In Ductor.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Last hour we already talked about Warren Zevon and we
were getting into the White Stripes. Meg White did not
go to the ceremony. She really has not been seen
in public for about fifteen years. But their induction was
by Iggy Pop, who is a fellow Michigan Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame member himself, and actually he kind
(10:50):
of did what we were all thinking whenever he started
his speech, I gotta get this.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Out of my system.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Don't don't don't, don't du do do?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I love Iggy Pop? Is just like tell me of
ADHD was telling.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You her Jack White. Does it get any better than
Iggy Pop introducing him?
Speaker 9 (11:21):
That's absolutely perfect. Jack had a great speech. It's a
little long here, but I kind of figured he was
going to speak to the artists of today, To the.
Speaker 10 (11:32):
Young artists, I want to say, get your hands dirty
and drop the screens and get out in your garage
or your little room and get obsessed. Get obsessed with
something you know, get passing it. We all want to
share in what you might create. Lastly, I was gonna
send this to Meg, but I didn't get around to it,
(11:52):
so I thought i'd read it to you all tonight.
One time a girl climbed a tree, and in that
tree was a boy, her brother, she thought, And the
tree looked so glorious and beautiful, but it was just
an oak tree. And these two so loved the world
that they brought forth a parade float. One they built
in their garage behind the oak tree with their own
(12:13):
bare hands. And the boy looked at this giant Pepperman
on wheels and felt pride, pride that it was produced
in the motor city, just like in the big factories,
but it was just in their garage. He looked at
the girl, his sister, he thought, and like the little rascals,
they said, let's put on a show. And they paraded
(12:34):
this float through the cast corridor, standing atop the peppermint,
pulled by white horses, or maybe it was a ready
canoline van. And many of the blocks they traveled were empty,
but some had people, and some of those people cheered,
and some laughed, and some even threw stones, and with
(12:54):
their bare hands, the two started to clap and sing
and make up songs, and some people kept watching and
swaying and moving, and then one person even smiled, and
the boy and the girl looked at each other, and
they also smiled, and they felt they.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Both felt the sin of pride.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
What they kept on smiling, smiling from a new freedom,
knowing that they had shared and made another person feel something.
And they thought the person smiling at them was a stranger,
someone they didn't even know. But it wasn't just a stranger.
It was God, my sister, Thanks you, and I thank you,
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
All very much.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It had been funny.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And then an hour down the road, two other boys
in Akron completely copied everything that we did.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
They also build a peppermin colored it black and thought
it was different.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And then they sold all their songs to cars. And
then they went to the same school Nashville after I did.
They've been following me, not whole live.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
That was beautiful, though, Man, that's like a that's a
children's book. He should publish that. He's good at stuff
like that. I mean, Jack White, I think is a
true artist. I think that his appreciation of Meg has
been great post White White Stripes.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I don't know how what the dynamic was like when
they were together. I don't know how well they got
along and how you know, because it's it must have
been hard to get divorced, yeah, and then be in
a band together, and I don't know how amicable.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Sometimes that's not hard.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Sometimes it's like we both agree that this is what
needs to happen and we should be friends. But I
don't know anything about Meg other than it seems like
she has just been terrified to speak.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
Seems like it's by design that we don't know anything
about probably better. Yeah, And Jack famously does seem to
stay friends with his exes. He's, you know, very famous
for having that divorce party with Karen Elson.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Time.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
He's doing TikTok with her now. And they're very real
their parents, right, yeah, their parents, and so they do
tiktoks with their daughter. Sometimes she did a walk at
a fashion show and they were doing like tiktoks with
her and everything. So it seems like he's very pro
stang being an adult.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
How about it? Everybody now?
Speaker 9 (15:18):
Providing the musical tribute to the White Stripes were Olivia
Rodrigo and Feist.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
They actually did an acoustic version of We're going to
be friends.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
We all notice anything, We side my son every This
is great? Do you you thinks that I so funny?
Speaker 11 (15:38):
What you say?
Speaker 12 (15:41):
Silly?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Thus go through mine about the books.
Speaker 12 (15:52):
Enough of it went away tomorrow you're li walked getting again.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I already liked Navia RB.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
I love Feist.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I don't know her.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
That really got me into Olivia.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I love she's like Canadian cat power. Cat power, Yes,
that's yeah, but she's Feist.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Is when the lead singer of Tragically hip died the
first show they did with you know, the surviving members.
Feist sang for them like she's well regarded in Canada.
She had that song you definitely know that something two
(16:53):
keep going, oh you know it a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And then also this.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Was a big moment.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Put your hand in your mouth, scratch your head like
a monkey. Now get out through the dance.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Take your pants off. I'm getting it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Take my hands off, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And then this is a big moment of the night.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
Twenty one pilots had their take on seven Nation Army.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
All the worlds amably for me, I will think no
more vocally, damn dead nuts any.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
Stage, tell me come back.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Maybe, James, Yeah, do something different with it. I mean,
show Jack White that you kind of took his speech
to heart and get obsessed with something, and you.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Know I I do like that, get obsessed with something.
And there aren't they from Columbus. They are so that
nice little tie in again, why not staying you know
in the Midwest there, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
I do want to get to Soundgarden.
Speaker 9 (18:47):
I feel like that was one of the big marquee
things of the evening. Third band from Seattle's grunge scene
to be inducted following Nirvana.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
And Pearl Jam. We still need to get to Alison Chains.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
We'll get there at some point, but they've been eligible
since twenty thirteen, so this year. Matt Cameron, by the way,
also is already in because he's in with Pearl Jam.
But alongside Cameron, their original bassist hero Yamamoto got in.
His permanent replacement, Ben Sheppard got in, Kim Sale, and
(19:21):
then of course their late singer Chris Cornell.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
But Jim Carrey gave the induction speech, and I.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
Thought he actually it was an odd choice in one regard,
but he did an amazing speech.
Speaker 13 (19:32):
That track was the ultimate example of Chris Cornell's prolific songwriting.
It felt like he had given us an all access
pass to some monumental apocalyptic dream he was having. He
had a deeply authentic presence. When you looked into his eyes,
it was like Eternity was staring back sadly on a
(19:55):
shocking night.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
In twenty seventeen, Chris left us.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
We lost a very special being, a monumental musical artist
and an inspired innovator. But for all time his voice
will continue to light up the ether like a Tesla
coil an I apologize.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
He was talking about black Hole Son when he was
saying that track, so he was talking about that being
like a way of really looking into Chris cornell soul,
which again, that's an incredible song and maybe one of
the most iconic in their catalog. Taylor Momson, which oddly enough,
Jim Carrey played opposite in the Branch. She was Cindy
lu who she is now in the band The Pretty Reckless,
and this is a little snippet of her singing Rusty
(20:37):
Cage and it also had Pearl Jim's Mike McCready on guitar.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Her voice is so freaking.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Cool this one I love though I hope that sounds
a little bit better on this one. Taylor is also
on this one, but Brandy Carlyle and this was like
a record store day thing that happened where she did
black Hole Sun. Alison Chain's guitarist Jerry Contrell is on
this and also hero Yamamoto is also performing as well.
(21:31):
But take a listen, stupid like I love her. I
(22:34):
love her too. She's on my list of artists to see.
But the I mean very heart tugging moment as well.
Tony Cornell, which is Chris's daughter came out to do
fell on Black Days and this was with Heart's Nancy
Wilson on acoustic guitar, and then they also had a
(22:55):
cellist on stage.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Can Dom sever.
Speaker 13 (23:07):
Purchase so so they say I can't see in the.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Nice sat Mucketa.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
A lot of really good stuff from the ceremony.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
It is available to stream on Disney Plus and Hulu
and then ABC is also going to air a condensed
version on January first. Some of the things that we
didn't get to this hour, maybe we can get to
it tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Joe Cocker Tribute.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
Which had just amazing people, Tedesky Trucks, Teddy Swims, Chris
Robinson was on that really good stuff from Cindy Lapper,
the Bad Company stuff. Also, I really actually like what
they did with outcasts. They had a bunch of people
jump up to nell mony did some stuff. So we
can kind of table that for tomorrow because I know
(24:08):
we got a lot of Steelers talk to get to.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
But we do like joining us in just a little
bit here live what we have Him or not you
I thought you were doing the no. Hi, hey Jacobs,
We're just glad you got home from Penn State in
one piece without getting your arse beat wearing all that
Indiana gear?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
How how was that?
Speaker 12 (24:27):
By the way, And I was just scratching my head
in my bad I mean to that, But yeah, it
was a great weekend. It would no confrontations you stayed.
Would have would have been a tough ride home had
the game gone in the other way.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yes, because for the record, Jacobs and are you grad Yeah,
most of our listeners would be more Penn State leaning,
just in case they didn't know, because they're like.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
What do you mean it didn't go the right Yeah,
like it went the wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Way, And they waited till the end of the game
with the best catch that's ever been made to pull
off the victory.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And the Gus Johnson call, the Gus Johnson call, Oh
my god, this.
Speaker 12 (25:06):
Is apoplectic, but draft the whole fourth quarter, I mean luckily,
I mean I know some people are off of Gush Johnson.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I wasn't able to hear him because I was at
the game. Well here it is, Mendoza, they shut up.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That drove me down.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Sounds like a drunk Harry carry.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
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Jerry Doulac from the Steelers Audio Network joining us right
now from Los Angeles. Jerry coach Tomlin didn't even want
to step up to defend Aaron Rodgers game last night.
That's how poorly the veteran play caller played last night.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
Yeah, when he was asked, you know, what did you think? Basically,
what did you think of his performance, he said, what
did you think can Yeah, obviously he didn't play well
at the end of that was that was one of
his worst performances actually in a long time. I mean,
I think his completion percentage was the worse since twenty
twenty one. You know, it was as his passer rating
(27:12):
was the lowest since a game last season with the Jets,
And yeah, it wasn't It.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Wasn't very good.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
And you know, he ends up with what one hundred
and sixty one yards and sixty five came on that
final possession, So yeah, it was pretty anemic. There's no
question about it. Overthrowing game well out in the flat,
you know. And then it's the poor either call or
decision to throw at the DK metcalf when it was
double covered down from the four or six or wherever
(27:39):
they were. And yeah, it was certainly wasn't a game
of highlights, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yeah, And it's tough to criticize play calling when nothing
seems to be working right, because how do you know
anything's going to work correctly? But I just can't understand
why they don't just try to win on the back
of Jalen war in first and they did three and
out with three throws to begin the game after the
honor speed false start, And it just baffles me because
(28:08):
he's the one guy who just seems like there's desperation
in every play for Jalen Warren.
Speaker 11 (28:16):
You know, yeah, you're right about that, Randall. And you know,
we saw them start last week with three passes and
I'll go back to the was it the Green Bay
game where they were running the ball well in the
first half. They come out to start of the second half.
You know, it's their leading sixteen to seven, and they
throw three straight passes and you know, the same thing again.
(28:38):
And I mean, you know, our teams just loading the
box right off the bat. I'll be honest, I don't
sit there and watch to see, Okay, are they loading
the box for these first couple of plays, because I
don't expect them to do that, come out and throw
like that. But I mean, I understand you want to
be aggressive, but that's that's been overly aggressive way too
(28:59):
early in the games. So yeah, I don't know. But
Jalen Warren just, I mean, he just proves time and
again he's you know, he's kind of he's a beast
in there.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Boy.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
He makes a lot of plays, whether it's you know,
catching the ball or running the ball, and he didn't
have a lot of success early, but they got it going.
And yeah, he's he's the one guy who's been very,
very good. Question.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It is head scratching.
Speaker 14 (29:20):
You look at that stat sheet and there's uggly numbers
all across the board except Jalen Moore in fourteen carries
seventy yards five point zero average, and the team averaged
four point six on the ground on sixteen carries. Now,
they'll always tell you why we didn't convert third downs? No,
maybe run more on first and second down. Maybe that
fixes it.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (29:40):
That's something they got to get to the bottom of.
It's not the only thing, but it's something, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
Mike, And you know fourteen that you know, professes to be,
you know, to want to run the ball, and so
then when they do run the ball. But you know,
I'll just go backward to when they brought Aaron Rodgers in.
You know, I like to use Berry Bradshaw's old line.
You know, Rogers isn't a maleman. He's a gunslinger and
he's going to throw the football. Unfortunately, he didn't throw
(30:08):
it very well last night, and you know that's two
games in a row. Now for the offense, you know,
it was just pretty anemic. Look, they were lucky last week,
they got a short field into their credit. They converted
those turnovers, those takeaways into touchdowns, but you know they
had their offensive production was a nemic last week and
it was even worse this week.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
He's also old, like us ja is it as simple
as the sky doesn't like playing night games. I mean
it's bedtime and all of a sudden we're kicking.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The ball off.
Speaker 11 (30:40):
You know, Billy. What I'm worried about too is you
know you saw this with Brett Farb you know, late
in his career that when you got the cold weather games. Now,
look he's certainly accustomed to that playing in Green Bay,
but not when he was aged forty two, and he's
going to be forty two in December, and you know,
it becomes it that it becomes another ballgame.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
There is.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
You know, handling, handling the cold weather when you're older.
Anybody who's older cats it tougher it.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Is to get moving.
Speaker 11 (31:11):
But well, you know there Tam, You know, Mike Tommins
record in October, in November is pretty darn good so far,
not the case. Losing three to the last four. I
say take them off prime time.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Prime Time. That's what I'm saying, prime time. Three games now.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Considered, that them go back, go back.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
Five weeks against against the league. Go ahead, Jerry, I'm
just going to say, the rest of the leagues looking
at them in primetime ago, they.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Ain't very good.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No, But to your point about Aaron Rodgers five weeks
ago against the Browns one passer rating against the Bengals
one O three Packers, one O one Colts ninety five,
Chargers fifty. Now, I don't think the next one drops
the zero. But these performances were slowly sliding downward. Last
(32:04):
night was an abysmal one.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
But the Bengals defense is just what the doctor ordered.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Let's hope that's right. They have been putting up a
lot of points, though they had that. They're coming off
a bye two weeks ago they lost. They scored forty
two points against the Bears and lost.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
Yeah, and to Billy's point, that's probably the best thing
for their offenses playing the Bengals defense. But if they
go lay an egg this week against that defense, you know,
then then you're going to start to worry. Look, I
didn't see too many open receivers yesterday. I'm certainly not
laying the blame there, but just the whole way around it,
it just it wasn't very good. Other than Jalen Warren.
(32:44):
You know, Pat Farmouth proves to be the one guy
who can make plays. And as crazy as it sounds,
the most productive receiver they've had in terms of scoring
has been Roman Wilson, and so you know, it just
it just was discombobulated from to start, and that's the
way they look. They I don't want to say they
played disinterested. They just played out of sync from from
(33:06):
the get go. And it started when you know, with
that h with that safety he had to take an
ends on when he ran into Fontano and dropped the ball.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Jerry.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
Was there much if any talk in the locker room
about what clearly was a failed experiment of trying Anders
Pete at left guard so you could keep uh Spencer
Anderson available to be eligible, and how they kept changing
that up.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And it's just I don't think it helped us.
Speaker 11 (33:31):
Put that way, well, it certainly didn't help right off
the bat when he takes the fall start County when
his first game that he plays. But I haven't had
a chance to talk to the coaches in terms of
what they wanted to do and what they what they
were thinking. But you know, they want to run. They
want to run that uh that heavy package with Spencer Anderson.
You would think maybe they might try somebody else in
(33:54):
that role as opposed to taking Anderson out of the
left guard spot and having him do that. But uh,
you know, I don't, I don't know, Like everything, everything
that they were doing was just out of sync. And
you know it started with the quarterback and you know
you have to you have to convert some third down
plays once again, the play disparity was uh, you know,
(34:15):
was incredible. Uh many chart plays the Charges ran as
opposed to the Steelers, and it would have looked a
whole lot worse if they didn't get that touchdown at
the end. It was bad enough that just that just
eased some of the discomfort of watching them play. That
is for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Any word on the Sam Willow injury. Might he be
back for the Bengals game.
Speaker 11 (34:34):
No. The only thing I could say Randall and Mike
and I talked about this in the pregame show, is
that you know this time last week, or at least
in terms of Sunday. Uh, he played. He didn't last long,
but he played. The fact that he didn't play tells
me that this Sunday he was worse than he was
the previous Sunday. And you know, last year he missed
(34:54):
three games with that peck injury. I don't I don't
know how long he's going to be out, but all
I can presume is that his injury was worse this
week than it was the previous week.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Jerry Dulac Steelers Audio Network brought to you by Always Say
Flagging and Traffic Control this week on DVE. Jerry as
always thanks, safe travels coming back from Los Angeles.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
Yeah, thanks man. I just hope everything's reliable today.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Well, I think you got a couple more weeks before
it all goes to hell. You'll be fine, You'll be fine. Thanks,
all right, buddy, we'll see Abby's well. Unfortunately we can't
get to any more of the rock and roll Hall
of Fame stuff today. Well, we'll do it tomorrow. We
got Rob King coming in for a power out of
Steeler talk. But Mike pursued a guy just threw twenty
five to ten chargers over the Steelers when we return
(35:43):
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Speaker 1 (35:51):
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Speaker 4 (36:28):
No, whatever you do, I'm making these guys listen to
these Edmund Fitzgerald between commercial breaks.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Oh no, I can tell you guys love it.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I actually do.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Though.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
There's differing opinions, you know, and hearing all these different
opinions about why the FitzGeralds sunk is interesting. But it introduced, uh,
some terminology that none of us had been familiar with,
and one of them is that the boat cracked in
half and then like uh, like like a bridge going up,
it cracked in half, not like down, and so that's
(37:04):
called when it goes up. So the two halves like
point up after it cracks in half, that's called hogging.
Like yeah, like hogging. And I'd never heard that before
as a turn Yeah. He and then the one guy
keeps going he hogged the boat. He's not, he's hogging
right now. And then that's what happened. And then it
(37:26):
cracked in half, and before they knew it, they sunk
five hundred feet down. That's why all of the life
and also it was too rough to get in life
boats apparently. Oh yeah, so they just I mean, those
dudes all they're all toast and they're all down there still, all.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Of them crazy.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
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Speaker 14 (37:51):
Plain's offense was the problem in the Steelers twenty five
ten stinker last night in LA but TJ. Watt didn't
want to give the defense a pass.
Speaker 15 (37:59):
Inconsistent could be too much up and down, not enough.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Steeler football.
Speaker 15 (38:06):
I mean, we can't continue to live and die by
the turnovers as a defense. We need to get off
the field and you stop the run critical third downs
when you do better job of and no excuse for it.
You need to play better.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Over there.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Last night they had a couple turnovers that they couldn't
get their mits on.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Fully.
Speaker 14 (38:25):
Yeah, the offense couldn't complete a pass, not on third
down of any rate, not until it was way too late, dude.
Speaker 16 (38:33):
It's probably midway to the fourth quarter before we converted a
third down. And you're not gonna win football games not
converting third down and losing the turnover battle. And we
certainly would loose with the ball in several instances and
didn't convert enough third downs, and so that's the end result.
It's nothing mystical about it.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I appreciate t J.
Speaker 14 (38:52):
Watt holding the defense accountable, and yeah, that Joey Porter
dropped interception could have been a game changing play. But
this defense gave up thirteen points through three quarters and
the Chargers' scoring drives were fifty one, thirty eight and
thirty six yards.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Turnovers man offense they capitalized on. The turnover offense just.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Has to be better, I mean way better.
Speaker 14 (39:18):
Still wouldn't be what they're going to need to be
at some point, but where they are right now that
this was just off the charts bad, starting with quarterback
Aaron Rodgers, who had a night to forget and acknowledged
it as such.
Speaker 15 (39:32):
Defense played really well tonight, and offensively we were pretty bad.
So we got to find a way to get open
on third down.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I got to find a way to hit them.
Speaker 14 (39:42):
And because that was just some bad ball, Yeah it was.
It was interesting to me that the Chargers, really, I thought,
had a great game plan for what they had to
work with along the offensive line, and most of the
damage Herbert was doing through the first three quarters was
sideways passing and just yacking it out. You know, it
(40:04):
looked like kind of how the Steelers were playing it
early in the season.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
And because he was under duress, I mean, the Steelers
were getting after him.
Speaker 14 (40:13):
They know how many times he's been hit this year,
and they know who they had playing offensive tackle, and
they know what the Steelers rush is capable of, and
they worked around it. And I thought their coaches had
the better night of the two staffs agreed.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Although execution was so poor on the Steelers end of things,
it's hard to really assess the game. Yeah, Yeah, it's
a fair point, but that falls on coaching too.
Speaker 14 (40:38):
Hit a couple of passes early and maybe it's a
different game, but they they never figured out a plan
b other than have Rogers try to navigate the pocket and.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Throw under duress.
Speaker 14 (40:50):
And the running game thing is, I get that you're
not running a lot of plays and oh for nine
on third downs not going to cut it, but they
keep appearing to have gotten away from the run too
early or not gone to it enough. And they got
to solve that too.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
In that Green Bay game, what did they have in
the second half?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Three rushes worn at three rushes.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
One in the third quarter and that's when they were up.
They're still in the game.
Speaker 14 (41:19):
You're up, You're up what nine at halftime last night?
You know Chargers weren't running away and hiding. I mean,
Steelers couldn't get anything going, but they were within reach.
You could have you could have just kept pounding and
kept pounding it.
Speaker 11 (41:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 14 (41:35):
It's always frustrating after a loss. But they better figure
it out quick because the Bengals coming to town Sunday.
They've been pretty consistent since Flacco got there. They can
light you up and their defense stinks, so you know,
I wouldn't go into this game thinking you're gonna win
sixteen to ten.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Bengals football enjoy half of it?
Speaker 14 (42:00):
No, but I mean the two receivers are Sick and
Flacco he's they can enjoy half of it. Flacco is
doing what Rogers has pretty much done up until last
night anyway. But he's he's reading the defense, he's he's
activating the playmakers, he's getting.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
He's being decisive.
Speaker 14 (42:18):
He's getting the ball out and getting it where it
needs to go, and he's given his guys a chance
to make plays.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
The problem is that the Steelers don't have anybody as
good as Chase and Higgins.
Speaker 14 (42:29):
They don't, but there was some place to be made
last night. The second possession misfired a metcalf deep. I mean,
I just said the Bengals, or excuse me, the Chargers
coaches had the better night. Arthur Smith got DK Metcalf
one all one against the safety.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's got to be a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Jerry doesn't think so. Jerry thinks he shouldn't have thrown it.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
He was talking about he was talking about the pig.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Oh I'm sorry, Okay, yeah, you were talking about where
he threw it was that.
Speaker 14 (43:00):
There's some talk about double coverage there. The safety's not
getting over and going out of bounds and getting on
the other side of them, and the safety's not jumping
on the cornerback's shoulders.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I think the safety can take away.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
If he's leading him high, that safety might be able
to get there.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Yeah, I don't think he does.
Speaker 14 (43:18):
Rogers said he should have thrown it back shoulder or
thrown it to the other side of the field. I
think back shoulder scores there.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Well, back shoulder gets you PI there is what is
what happens.
Speaker 14 (43:30):
I think jump ball scores there. I don't care how
many guys they got there. They're not as big as Metcalf.
Just let him go up and get it. Looked like
he threw it relatively on a line and the cornerback
had inside position and Metcalf's trying to reach around him,
similar to the one against the Colts where he kind
of threw it low the fade into the would.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Just think this is supposed to be his specialty. This
is supposed to be the thing he's good at. We're
not asking you to throw the ball seventy yards. We're
asking for the touch, the precision that you're famous for
wall placement.
Speaker 11 (44:03):
Uh.
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