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November 11, 2025 39 mins
Gene Steratore calls in to discuss the pros and cons of the Tush Push after the Eagles faced off against the Packers who was the team which initially tried to get rid of the controversial play.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is w Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Did you know that Clint Eastwood served I guess I
did not know that.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
It didn't make sense, but I feel like every actor
of that era was of the time when everybody did
a couple of years like he was.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Like, you graduated high school, you go in the army
for a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Maybe you go to war, but maybe it's peacetime, and
then you go on to your life's work.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
He served in the Korean War, okay, okay, and he
served as a lifeguard in the Korean A lifeguard. I
didn't a lifeguard in the Korean War.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
What were you?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I was a yoga instructor.

Speaker 6 (00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Wait a minute, they were doing yoga, I think so, Yeah,
that's a lifeguard. Does not sound like something that has
military distinction.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
He gave me a whistle.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's where he came up with.

Speaker 7 (00:57):
Just shoot you if you don't get out of the pool.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Lucky punk, I'm drowning. I'm the opposite of lucky. Brandy
Bellman and the DVE Morning Show. Have to grab the
magnum like to get out. Here's like holding Please don't
pull the trigger.

Speaker 7 (01:13):
It's slippery.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Clint Eastwood lifeguard, Uh, it is the DV morning show.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Geen Steratour will be joining us seven forty five Charli
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Speaker 1 (01:35):
Bud Light's easy to drink, easy to enjoy, an abby.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
We didn't get to a lot yesterday of this weekend's
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, we still have a lot to get to because
yesterday we were able to talk Soundgarden and the White Stripes,
the recognition of Warren Zvon in that musical influence category.
So here's a couple that we didn't get to and
remember this year elected for induction did also include Bad Company,
Joe Cocker, Cyndi Lauper, Chubby Checker, and Outcast, and then

(02:08):
Salt and Peppa also got a musical influence category nod.
But numerous artists have been pushing for Joe Cocker to
be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
and that finally did happen.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
So I want to start with that.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Inducted by Brian Adams, who wrote nineteen nineties When the
Night Comes for Joe. The musical tribute had three songs
that Cocker covered and made his own. And I loved this.
Back by Tedsky Trucks, Susan Tedesky and Nathaniel Ratliff did
the letter take.

Speaker 8 (02:40):
Listen to this, listen to human Mista.

Speaker 9 (02:56):
I can't just see anyway.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I mean, yeah, it makes perfect sense to have them
do it.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Tedsky Trucks has done the entire Mad Dogs and Englishman
tribute before you know, which you know is Joe Cocker
of course with the Leon.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Russell Helm's band. I'll tell you who.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Does a bang up job on those tunes is Clinton
clag Oh Hellyler.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, he crushes.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
All those Joe Cocker songs for to do it Pittsburgh,
Joe Cocker, Come on, is he did well? He did
it for the hell Bender Ball wype. He's Hellbender Ball
a couple of years ago. I played I played orgon
for it. It was yeah, dude, it was. He had
a killer band and it sounded just like that, just killer.
But you can't beat Nathaniel Ratliffe Withky trucks. That's pretty
damn good, but Clinton.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
That was followed by Teddy Swims joining them on Dave
Mason's feeling, all right, what.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Is too much to do?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Traffic?

Speaker 9 (04:04):
Traffic?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It was traffic already.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Oh you know what it is. Okay, No, they're doing
the joke.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, no, they're doing joke. But traffic might already be in.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I think they are.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
Probably took forever for traffic.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
To get in such a wait, they had to play
the alphabet game.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Ohio.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
That did lead into the finale of Cocker's version of
The Beatles with a little help from my friends. That
had additional help from Cyndi Lauper and Chris Robinson, who feel.

Speaker 10 (04:43):
At the end of the day, well, I'll dressed, need

(05:24):
someone look.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, Chris, I'm not dressing. No, I'm not dress.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
Nomber forget back, I go.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Down.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
I'll say, he sounds incredible in the kind of life
that he's all, you know, had. I just don't know
if I could have marked him as one of the
artists whose voice was gonna stay intact, because again we've
talked before about those high risk, high reward kind of vocalists. Yeah,
and for him to sound that good is astonishing to me.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I agree, considering how much he has smoked weed in
his life that his vocal chords haven't taken on a
little more of you know. Yeah, yeah, he sounds amazing well.
He sounds in more control of his voice than he
has in a long time.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
I saw them perform at the Old Rhyman for as
Black Crows, and I even like, you know, they always
burn all that incense on the stage before and I
don't even know as a vocalist how you're like, yeah, no,
pipe that in right in front of me while I'm singing.
But I've always loved him as performer. I always said
he looks like an infant, like a baby dance and

(06:56):
naked in the rain.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Like he's always just like whoa, you know, he just
looks like he's having the time of his life. He
is one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
He's a very likable guy.

Speaker 11 (07:05):
Yeah so wait, Cyndy Lauper got in but also sang, yeah, she.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
She did some performing.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
And I won't give Jacob a heart attack by jumping ahead,
but we have some.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Of the cuts here. Do you have some of it?
I have, I have her acceptance speech, her acceptance speech.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Listen, I want to be fair here.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Cindy's solo performances vocally were not.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Super sharp.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay, she didn't sound great on that one, but I've
heard her be amazing.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
I did her songs.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
She did a.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Couple where you know, Adril Levigne jumped in with her.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
They did like a big girls just want to have
fun things?

Speaker 7 (07:41):
Like why not?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Big girls just want to have fun?

Speaker 8 (07:44):
Girls?

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Oh, they did a big I want to have fun things.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
No, they're all on ozepic now they trouble trouble finding
the big girls.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Not as many.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
Big girls just want to chew gum.

Speaker 12 (08:00):
Now.

Speaker 11 (08:00):
I think the new version of it, can.

Speaker 13 (08:04):
You Fun.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
Time?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Simmy Lauper and Ray?

Speaker 9 (08:11):
Can't you have.

Speaker 8 (08:14):
Ray Time?

Speaker 12 (08:17):
Ray?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Randy?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah it's me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Really, girls just want
to have done you know.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah, I told you.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Honestly, I picked that one because it was one of
the more flattering vocals.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Where's Captain low Albano?

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think she was struggling vocally a little bit in
some of the performances. It seemed like even the people
she was harmonizing with maybe we're having her time. So
but but I would love for you to play part
of her acceptance speech because actually what she's made me
a little teary.

Speaker 14 (09:01):
I know that I stand on the shoulders of the
women in the industry that came before me, and my
shoulders are broad enough to have the women that come
after me stand on mine. And the other thing that
I thought was really important, which is why I really

(09:22):
came here tonight, is to tell you that the little
kid and me still believes that rock and roll can
save the world. So I just want to say, now
of all times, let's come together again and do good
in the world because it needs us.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
I love her voice and accent.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I do love it so much.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
She's still so unyi, but the beginning of that really
got me for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
And I always think about that in Radio two.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
If there were like women that get territorial and they
don't think there's room.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
For everybody, all that does is it robs you of
other talent.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
It robs you of people coming in and sharing what
could be a really creative and wonderful space. So I
think about people like Valle Michelle Michaels all the time.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
You know, it's not pie. There's room for everybody.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
And so when she says things like that, and then
somebody like Chapel Roone inducts her.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
If it were PI, it would be gone. It would
be gone. You can't put anything in the DJ be
in the kitchen with just a just crumbs.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
It would be a tupperware that looks like spaghetti's men.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
But like Chapel Rone inducted her, And that's a really
good person to do it too, because again you think
of Cyndi Lauper in.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
The early eighties and people just being who is this.

Speaker 11 (10:49):
And yeah, not knowing how to categorize her, what box
to put her in?

Speaker 12 (10:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So I love that speech. That's worth it. Voice could
do a little better. But God bless cndylaw it sucks.

Speaker 11 (11:00):
I feel like they missed an opportunity. Teddy Swims, I
think has covered some of her.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh God, he would have crushed it.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Oh that could have been.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Fun time after time. I feel like he's done a cover.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Of that sounds right, that's I mean, clearly her best song.
That song is a classic edition. That is a timeless song.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Our Bad Company also finally made it into the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame on Saturday, and they have
been eligible since nineteen ninety nine. But They were inducted
by their friend Mick Fleetwood, who recounted a conversation that
he had with Bad Company singer Paul Rodgers.

Speaker 15 (11:37):
Fleetwood Mac started out in the late nineteen sixties as
a blues band with the legendary guitar player Peter Green,
and as it turns out, the young Paul Rodgers would
often come and watch us. Decades later, when John McVie
and I were jamming at my home in Maui, Poul

(12:00):
told me that we were.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
His heroes back in those days.

Speaker 15 (12:04):
That is a genuine point of pride for me, given
the Pool would eventually go on to front one of
the best rock and roll bands of all time, Bad Company.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Bad Company drummer Simon Kirk was the only member of
the band who is able to attend the ceremony his daughters.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
His one daughter was in that show Girls.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Oh who is she really? Yeah, she's the long blonde hair. Okay,
I did not know that. And then his other daughter
is Lola Kirk and she's a country star right now,
I no idea.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
And she was an.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Actress first, and she's in the movie Gone Girl when
Rosalin Pike is on the run and she's in that
cabin and then she gets robbed by those like druggies.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
She's one of the that's her.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Kidding, Okay, I did not know that.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
So, because Simon was the only member of the band
that was able to attend, they did this musical tributa.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
They had a bunch of people a part of this.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Joe Perry was in their Nancy Wilson on guitars, and
again you got Chris Robinson. I mean, that's maybe one
of the better lineups you could put together. Here's Chris
Robinson on lead for feel Like Making Love.

Speaker 12 (13:23):
A Better.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I was at the missed audio we have.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, it's coming from the Roner Hall of Fame account.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
They had one job.

Speaker 11 (13:44):
Someone like they recorded it on their phone and left
their phone in their pocket.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Brian Adams jumped in for I can't get.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Enough this This shocked me.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Brian Adams.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, this late all album Love Love is going to
break meant in two.

Speaker 16 (14:08):
I'm gonna hang me up in the doorway, gonna.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Hang me up like you do.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Come on, come on, come on and do it, come on,
come on and do what you do. I can't cared enough.

Speaker 12 (14:27):
You don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I can't get enough.

Speaker 12 (14:30):
He don't love.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I can't get enough, you'll know.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And that was their first single, What's going on with
the guitars right now?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think that is Joe Perry. I'm not sure who
the other guitar player is.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I well, she was up there. I don't know if
she was on least she was on an electric guitars,
so it could have been her.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Wilson Wilson n.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I had to replace Jackson Dart and then hurry up
and go replace Joe Perry.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Let's make Love, Yeah, but that was written by Mick Ralphs.
He died following complications from cancer on June twenty third,
and he was eighty one years old. Let's see Boz
Burrell passed away in two thousand and six due to
health issues. And then Paul Rodgers couldn't fly because of

(15:25):
the strokes. We said he had thirteen strokes. I mean,
it's insane, but so Simon Kirk was again the only
person who could be there.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
He said that he had mixed emotions while delivering his speech.

Speaker 17 (15:37):
When death takes a friend, it never really dies, you know,
it never really phades away. And I'm just glad that
Mick rals got to hear that we were inducted.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Paul called him and said, hey.

Speaker 17 (15:51):
Make we got in. We got in and mix it.
Does that mean we get free hot dogs? I guess
it was the morphine talking. I don't know, but he
went out with a smile.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
I'm missing. I'm missing very much.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
What can't holding it together?

Speaker 7 (16:06):
But I hope I didn't.

Speaker 13 (16:08):
Bick loved hot dogs, hot dogs enough.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I might not have shared that story. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (16:15):
I told him we were getting inducted, and he said,
peanut butter, I'll never forget it.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's only like slightly less awkward than if he if
he was like, hey, Mick, we got in and.

Speaker 13 (16:31):
He's like, death is surely coming for me. Now I'm
coming to It's grizzly grips and my last breath is
walked the way.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
So I said, cheers mate. Anyways, like, yeah, we know
he's in a stupor you don't have to share it
with us.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Maybe it was the morphine. Do we get hot dogs?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Do you like this soup? This is what I'm gonna wear?

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Will there be jello?

Speaker 7 (16:58):
All hot dogs go to heaven?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
I do feel bad that Paul Rodgers couldn't be there
most because I'd like to hear how he sounds singing
right now.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
I know well he's said that he can still sing.
It's he's a flight I mean John Bunjovi says he
can still sing.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Well, a lot of singers saying they can still sing
right point.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Last couple sounds totally up to you whether you feel
like we've got time or not.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
On the let's save them, Let's save I want to
hear the Elton John singing. God only knows, Andre three thousand,
the outcast acceptance speech, Jennell Money, and there's a couple
other ones we'll get to as well. Mike Casual Sports
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(17:47):
a Pittsburgh Steeler.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
Greeted Jog wherever he wants now.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
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Speaker 1 (17:57):
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Speaker 6 (17:59):
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Speaker 1 (18:01):
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Speaker 16 (18:03):
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Speaker 1 (18:15):
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Speaker 3 (18:17):
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Speaker 1 (18:22):
Why don't two point five DV Mike? What's going on? Sports?

Speaker 15 (18:25):
Is?

Speaker 5 (18:25):
I brought to you by Bridgeville Plants.

Speaker 18 (18:26):
Joe Burrow did some throwing yesterday in Cincinnati. Limited in practice,
and according to our buddy Butch Hobson on Bengals dot Com,
limited meant throwing against air, no team drills.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
So he's just in the infancy.

Speaker 18 (18:41):
Stages of working his way back from the turf toe
injury that has kept him.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Sidelin that I think I'd rather face him coming back
from injury than Joe Flacco.

Speaker 18 (18:50):
Speculation in Cincinnati is Burrow might make his return Thanksgiving
Night against the Ravens, and that would be the first
of the two Bengals games against game against the Ravens
this season. But to your point, since he's problem is
in quarterback play without Burrow, Joe Flacco continues to amaze.
In four games with the Bengals, he's completed sixty four

(19:13):
point seven percent of his passes for one thy, two
hundred and fifty four yards, eleven touchdowns and two interceptions.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
Unreal.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
His most recent gameut in.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
The Browns have Dylan Gapriel.

Speaker 18 (19:28):
Like well, the problem is they don't have Tamar Chason
T Higgins.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
I know.

Speaker 18 (19:35):
Most recent Bengals game was a week ago Sunday against
the Bears. Flaco played with a sprained ac joint in
his throwing shoulder and threw for four hundred and seventy yards,
four touchdowns and two picks. The Bengals were trailing in
this game by fourteen points with two minutes and forty
two seconds left and Chicago had the ball. Cincinnati came

(19:59):
back to t the lead and still lost the game.
This shines a light on the absolute combustibility of their offense, yeah,
and the absolute ineptitude of their defense. Watching Flacco play,
I think when the Steelers played the Bengals the first time,
I think a lot of people thought, oh God, it's

(20:19):
Joe Flacco.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
He's ancient, he hasn't been with this team. No chance. Well, no, he's.

Speaker 18 (20:25):
Playing the way Aaron Rodgers was playing prior to this
last game against the Chargers when Rogers was got awful.
But he's making Flacco's making quick decisions. He's finding the
one on one coverage, He's getting him into the right
play at the line of scrimmage. And his ball placement
has been immaculate. And when it hasn't been immaculate, the
receivers are doing the rest. They're just going up and

(20:46):
getting it. I think I mentioned this yesterday, but it's
worth repeating. T Higgins seven catches for a buck twenty
one and two touchdowns against the Bears. He also caught
a two point conversion from Flacco. Spirodid's was doing the
play by play on CBS for the game and he
called Higgins touchdowns quote two of the most savage catches

(21:06):
you will ever see. He's just attacking the freaking football
battle catch guy. And then there's Jamar Chase, who in
his last four games has been targeted sixty two times
and he has forty four catches.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
I mean, some guys forty four catches decent season.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
He has that in four games. That's nuts.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Their problem. They're gonna score points.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Well, right, no doubt about that forecast is like low
fifties and rainy for Sunday.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Let's hope it stays that way.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
We need a blizzard again.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Their defense is just laughably.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Like the one that brought down the wreck of the
Edmund Fitzgerald.

Speaker 18 (21:51):
Oh, Brandy, maybe the one Cincinnati defense that's going for it.
Every once in a while, Trey Hendrickson can get a
sack at the right time, or a strip or something
of that nature, Zach Taylor to Bengal said, Coach told reporters,
And since yesterday Hendrickson is doubtful to return against the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
So the wreck of the Flecco led Bengals.

Speaker 18 (22:19):
Might be the wreck of the good ship Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well, you know, Rich, I can't hog it.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Rich rich Heusen said on his show yesterday that it
might be time for Mike Tomlin. I mean, you start
hearing these conversations nationally from the people who have traditionally
just you know, completely drowned out any of the complaints
coming from Pittsburgh, it starts to feel like, you know,

(22:45):
this actually might be happening now. And the same thing
I remember happening in Green Bay when Mike McCarthy was
up there I mean, the rest of the country was like, Oh,
they'll never get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Why would they get rid of him? He's great.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
And then up there they were bitching NonStop about him,
and then you know it up pardon NonStop. Yeah, they
were not fans. No, right, that's what I'm saying. And
but the rest of the national media was kind of like, Oh, Mike,
he's the guy. He's the guy. So I'm not suggesting
Mike Tomin's gonna get fired. I'm just suggesting the idea
that he's untouchable is no longer there. And we've said

(23:19):
at the beginning of the year a bunch of times
if this doesn't work this year, it could be his waterloo,
that this could be it. I just can't imagine if
the team goes south from where they were last year,
even though the plan is to get the franchise quarterback
in the draft, in the quarterback rich draft in twenty

(23:39):
and twenty six, if they get there in embarrassing fashion,
I could see it being with.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
A new regime leading the way.

Speaker 18 (23:46):
Yeah, I mean, I think Mike Tomlins's greatest strength, and
there's a strong sentiment in Steeler Nation that this is
a silly point of emphasis. But the never having had
a losing season thing is a huge deal.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's not the.

Speaker 18 (24:02):
Super Bowl, but it's never been done before at the
start of a career. The list of guys who have
gone eighteen years at the start of their career and
never had a losing season consists of Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
There's nobody else on the list.

Speaker 18 (24:16):
I mean, but this season, they're five and four right now,
and you start looking at these games the rest of
the way.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
I think they can all go either way.

Speaker 18 (24:23):
Agreed both on how because of how I feel about
this Steelers team and looking at their opponents. I was
watching the Bengals play the Bears the last game because
it was a perfect scout game because it's the Steelers next.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
To a point.

Speaker 18 (24:35):
Yeah, right, and Caleb Williams. We'll get into more Chicago
stuff next week. But you write down wow, and you
write down WTF, like when he does stuff like.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
How did he do that? And why did he do that?

Speaker 7 (24:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:50):
So that could go either way. I mean, the Ravens
games can go either way. There's not all layup.

Speaker 18 (24:55):
The only one I think that they're in real, real
trouble where I would be shocked if they win is
the one at Detroit.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Yeah, I think they're gonna lose that one.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
But in the in the Miami game, because it's at night,
it's a prime time.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, Now I lose those.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
That used to be their thing. Now it's not so.

Speaker 18 (25:13):
To your point, I mean this, what if they end
up with a losing record, with a bad losing record,
what if it looks like it looked against the Chargers. Now,
I think you start having a different conversation.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
This is Rich Eising yesterday. I think he's a Hall
of Fame head coach.

Speaker 19 (25:30):
I think he is remarkable at plugging into the athlete.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I think he is.

Speaker 19 (25:35):
Remarkable at taking the passion for football and instilling it
in a team, no doubt. And I think that if
this falls apart, I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers
finally say let's figure something out and then Tomlin shows
up somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's plausible.

Speaker 18 (25:57):
It's a reasonable scenario. I mean there are several But
you don't say that if they're seven and two, No,
if they have a historic defense.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
You know.

Speaker 11 (26:07):
But part of why Aaron Rodgers was brought in here
was the thought process of if you have a really
good team. This guy can maybe get you over that hump.
But the idea that a rod is going to put
the whole team on his back as the road narrows
does not seem plausible to me.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
That seems set up for failure.

Speaker 18 (26:30):
Yeah, I don't I don't know what to make of
their offense after the Chargers game. I still think they
can be an effective points scoring offense, but they need
to start being that, and then they need to start
being that Sunday.

Speaker 11 (26:44):
Right outside of a crazy turnover game, generating their own
offense and their own drives.

Speaker 18 (26:51):
Well, just score points. I mean they you know they
got the turnovers against the Colts. They scored points that
they did. Just get a first down what they're supposed
to do. Can't can't have what they had against the Chargers.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
I know.

Speaker 18 (27:03):
I can't remember if you played that Rex Ryan clip
on the air and up, but people might have heard it. Yeah,
there were times they didn't have a lot of open receivers.
Rodgers mentioned that in the Chargers games. When the times
you get them hit them.

Speaker 20 (27:14):
Man, I should have gone asleep because I watched this game.
Why I have no idea like Aaron Rodgers looks awful Okay,
the receiver's stunk too, though, I mean the one dude
with the feet for hands.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
But I literally can we we saw a couple where
guys actually were open.

Speaker 20 (27:30):
Uh, there were a million where they were just getting
beat up all over the field. So to me that
no receivers all right, I like the running back, but
for some reason they don't run the ball. Maybe Aaron's
checking out the path. I mean, give it one of
those little deals. Again, I can't stand watching it. And
their defense actually played better than they have been, but
they're still terrible.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
Damn it.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Guys pound on a little bit for effect on TV.

Speaker 18 (27:54):
Defense played really well, agree, and there were plays there
to be made. There weren't a ton of them all nine,
but there were enough that they could have won that game.
And they gotta be better.

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Speaker 1 (29:10):
Gino.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
You know what's happening? Red, Good morning?

Speaker 5 (29:17):
How are you, buddy?

Speaker 12 (29:19):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (29:20):
It's cold.

Speaker 12 (29:20):
The weather reflected the feeling here and the steel City
right now.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Randy, it's a cold, gray day, you know, no, and
it seems colder because the Steelers lost, you know what
I mean, Like when they lose, it feels even more bitter.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Yeah, tough, buddy. It was tough. You know.

Speaker 12 (29:36):
I was part of the the airline to Bacle this
weekend at nine, you know, to fly home Sunday night
and get home, and everything canceled. So I went old
school and rented the car and and I you know,
I'm like, I sorry, I'll put the IP on YouTube
TV on, stick it on the dash and watch the
Steeler game when I drop back to you know, to Pennsylvania.

(29:58):
And it didn't look any better on an.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
That's all I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
You know, start driving towards the bridge Jersey Turnpike.

Speaker 12 (30:08):
Yeah, there's the people on the Jersey Turnpike. Don't know
why they fissed me off so much, but it wasn't good.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
It wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I mean, it happens, it happens, but it did look
like Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I don't know if he went and saw his wife
and they were arguing all weekend.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
You know, he finally went home, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Uh what it was that got under his skin, But
he did not look like the Aaron Rodgers we've seen
to this point.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
No, this was the first time I think we looked
and thought things that we don't want to think yet,
you know, I mean they just just that seemed to
be on the same page. You know, it's just it's
like a click missing. It's the last second communication or
identification and a and either changing off of the route
or where the ball is going to go. And I
think Mike just said it here just a minute ago.

(30:53):
You know, there's this four or five plays that, Yeah,
they got their butt kicked.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
They didn't play well.

Speaker 12 (30:58):
I thought the defense played really well, but it looks
like they're awes. They're not on sync with a little
bit of that little communication. Is it back shoulder? Do
you want me to keep going straight? Little little nuanced
things And we can't afford that right now. We're not
good enough to overcome the three or four mistakes were
making a crucial situation.

Speaker 11 (31:16):
Geen, you know, I mean, obviously the Steelers haven't looked
like they're ready for prime time in these in these
night games, but maybe it's because they're the second oldest
team in the league. I mean, it's not fun to watch,
but it is relatable. I mean, it gets dark before dinner.
Now I'm nodding out on the couch two hours before
the game. When you when you were a ref, did
did the night games seem to get later and later

(31:40):
as your career.

Speaker 12 (31:41):
Progressed, life gets later and later. Bulle, Yeah, you know,
I had some guys on my crew.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
For me, it didn't bother me.

Speaker 12 (31:49):
I roughed so many hoop games, so seven o'clock at
night to me was was game time many days, so
I kind of enjoyed it. But I did have some
you know, older officials. You know you look at and say,
get your nap here.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
At noon today. You know, we'll send somebody up.

Speaker 12 (32:06):
To wake up around two thirty and we'll be ready
to go. But we we have not performed well in
prime time, and that also wakes the country up a
little more, right because there's only one game on, so
everybody's getting.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
The taste of it.

Speaker 12 (32:18):
Let's play at one oh five. Well, we'll be all
right at one oh five. Well, okay, I'm on that.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Did you get to see that There was one play
that people were pretty upset about. I think it was
a third down d K appeared to be interfered with,
and they tried to figure out whether or not that
constituted the defensive pass interference? What was your calling that?

Speaker 12 (32:39):
Yeah, yeah, well that exactly right.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
It's a basketball play. And h again, I was probably around.

Speaker 12 (32:45):
Bedford at that time. Yeah, I think that's where I was.
I think I was in that long distance between the
you know, rest areas where you're gonna hope you get
enough gas.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
But no, it was colins Worth alluded to it. He
was right.

Speaker 12 (33:00):
It's a block charge play, and the definition very pure
in a basketball sense, that defensive back has to be
both beat down kind of facing his opponent. If he
gets to that space, then it's the receiver's obligation to
avoid him. But if he's sliding in right at the
last second, right and he's not there completely there, that's
a that's a block in basketball, and that's defensive pass

(33:22):
interference in football.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (33:25):
And I think that was a you know, you don't
want to say the way that they played that that
may have been.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
A turning point, but it was. Look, they need everything right,
so you.

Speaker 12 (33:34):
Can't even have an officiating blip on a tough play
that gives you the first down because we're not really
that doesn't seem we're right now, playing well enough to
overcome even the human.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Errors of the stripes.

Speaker 12 (33:45):
Every once in a while, a block it's a block,
it's a block. And if it goes in. It's an
and one bike. We're we're getting one yes.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Last night another push push controversy. I mean, you know,
it's getting boring talking about this. I'm not sure if
we landed on your thoughts, it will this be the
last year of the Toush push, you know.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
I don't know. I would hate for the Toush push.

Speaker 12 (34:12):
Although I'm not a fan of the play overall, I
think the optics of it, I'm just not a fan
of it. It's effective, but I don't want the play
to disappear because they say the officials can't rest the
play the Green Bay one on the hurry up and
trying to get out of there because there's no substitution.
So officials do get put in a little window when
a team goes no sub quick offense like that, get

(34:34):
the ball down, get back into your position to officiate
the play, and officials have to be aware of that.
And the Green Bay one, which was a false start
to this, was the series right before the more egregious myths.
It's a little harder, I think in that situation because
it is quick and the officials are trying to get
set and now all of a sudden, it just snaps

(34:55):
the next one with Philadelphia. Though, Listen, two guys looking
down the barrel on that line of scrimmage, and that
is their primary job at that moment in time, and
history tells us that this play, you know, not been
a play that's been really handled. Well, you've got to
get that false start on the Eagles, because that's not

(35:16):
a deterrent to get rid of the play. But it
is your moment as an officiating team on the field
to say, look, and if you're going to run it, cool,
but it's a false start. It's third to six, it's
fourth and six. You can't miss that false start. That's
that's not a play that's too hard to officiate. That one,
that's just one you've got to get right. And that

(35:37):
that's you know, it's extra pressure, but you just got
to get that play right.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Now. Personally, I don't like video reping. I don't like
doing it from my couch because it's hard out there.
That play. To me, though, that.

Speaker 12 (35:47):
One that doesn't seem like a hard play to get right.
That one you've got to get right, and they just
didn't last night. It's going to add to the this
you know, the frenzy of the tush push.

Speaker 18 (35:57):
Speaking of stuff we should get rid of, Jeane, how
difficult is it to officiate when a guy stopped but
he isn't stopped, and then they all start pushing from
behind and it just goes on till they decide it
should stop. I would be a big fan of eliminating
helping a runner move forward from behind in any capacity.

(36:18):
But some of these forward progress plays, can you kind
of just speak in general as to you know, how
you guys figure out or how you used to figure
out when the guys actually stopped.

Speaker 12 (36:29):
It's as hard, Mike, because you want to give the
runner everything it can get. And I'm with you one
thousand percent because I think that's where this all gained
traction and then became the thing. We know that pulling
a runner forward, if you're in front of the runner,
you can't pull him with you, right, which has happened
a few times as a result of having all these
big guys around the runner and trying to gain that

(36:49):
extra yard. It's not a great play to officiate because
you don't want to, you don't want to know, you
don't want to avoid getting that runner as opportunity to
plow forward, and when the bodies meet and we're at
a standstill for that brief breath or tick, you do
want to see what happens right after that. And if
the running back starts to win, you want to give
him a little you know, get that chance. But if

(37:12):
it starts to just sluggishly go slow, you've got to
kill it because people get hurt. I am with you, though,
I think the answer to this is aiding the runner
from the front or.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
The back like this.

Speaker 12 (37:23):
Look, it's not only I think ugly football and doesn't
look like anything.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
It just you know, looks it's rugby.

Speaker 12 (37:30):
I think it's a safety issue, and we've had so
many rule changes that direct themselves toward the safety of players.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
But I don't care how big Jalen hurts is he's
got one thousand pounds.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Of humanity behind him.

Speaker 12 (37:42):
Standing him into two thousand pounds in front of him
that's trying to stop him. And he's the double stuff
cream in the middle.

Speaker 9 (37:49):
You know like that, You know what I mean, Like,
we know what happens if you squeeze the double stuff.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
You know, it starts steeping out the side.

Speaker 9 (37:58):
So I think I just think if we get away
from that and say, you know, any type of once
that initial progress is stopped, any type.

Speaker 12 (38:08):
Of action that you're coming from behind and plowing into that,
there's also that moment that rests. Feel like when that
starts to happen, people start coming from a different area, right,
there's three or four yards of space in between someone
and they're coming full full smoke right into this pal.
There's just a lot of safety ramifications to me, you
know there, So if we go anywhere to clean this up,

(38:31):
it is Look, there is no help from the front
or the or the back on a runner once he
starts to get stopped. I think it'll make the game cleaner,
and it's I think it's a safety issue.

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