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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The I might start flipping houses.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Backup plan for people has to be the most popular
plan B that people have.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Right, everyone has a buddy who has like done ones.
It's you know, it's not unlike gambling. It's like you
hear about the big winds and flipping a house, right,
it's like you're really stressed out. Buddy whose hands are
always destroyed because they're doing everything by themselves.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
You should get stitches you.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I was doing some drywall at the new place in
Highland Park and yeah, I mean it's been super stressful,
but it's so rewarding.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
It is so rewarding. How long have you worked there?
I've been doing it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
For fourteen months now? Oh yeah, what's what's the estimated
profit on that one? Gonna lose a little, actually, gonna
lose about fifteen thousand when it's all said and done.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But rewarding, learning a lot, learning a lot, rewarding. Brandy
Bellman and the DV Morning Show our.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Buddy Tad Whistle hanging out with us this morning. Make
sure you follow him on all the socials. What is
your Twitter handle, Tad? It's at Dick and Sauce.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Mistakes were made eleven years ago when the Yeah when
that Twitter handle.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Right, Richard is your formal name, So yeah, that's what
we were talking about there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I totally forgot that was your Twitter handle. I would
not have anyways. Abby's got your news right now. We
got Missy Matthews joining us a little bit later on,
Abbey and Guy Junker is going to be joining us
each packed house here as we get ready for Steelers
and the Bears one o'clock Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Here on DV this is our Roddy Bay Window Nation.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
The fog advisory this morning. Troup be lifting soon. Otherwise
cloudy and high of forty six. Cambridge Dictionary has named
parasocial as its word of the Year for twenty twenty five.
Coined in nineteen fifty six by sociologist Donald Horton and
Richard Wool, the word was initially used to describe television
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viewers who formed one side relationships with TV personalities, but
in recent years the term has had a resurgence, often
associated with pop music fans who are overly familiar with
artists with whom they have no personal connection. So Cambridge
Dictionary specifically cited fans of Taylor Swift, who announced her
engagement to Travis Kelcey this year, prompting an emotional reaction
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from some fans.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Also last year, chapel.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Rone made headlines for calling out weird and creepy followers
and calling out the predatory behavior of so called superfans
that includes non consensual physical and social interactions.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So this has become a real epidemic as people have,
you know, retreated into their cyber world and stopped interacting
with the outside world. Parasocial relationships with celebrities, internet figures, online,
you know, content creating, influencers and all that stuff is prevalent.
But I'm trying to think of any like what the
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closest I ever got to that was, And I would
think it was probably when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Just like if I saw.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Bill Murray, I'd be like, oh, I want to know
everything about like the people that made me laugh. But
I didn't like think I was in any sort of
give and take with that person.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You Now, there's a word for it, which means it's
getting bad, and that word essentially means pre stocker. Yes,
but Paris is a bit of a parasocial. The FBI
identified him as a parasocial. Yeah, not good. No, you're right,
it's a harbinger of things to come.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But it's also like so many people are getting like
wrapped up in this to the point of mental illness.
It's not even that it like transfers over into contacting them.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
They just get consumed.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
There's so much content that that's out there that if
you want Taylor's swift content and interactions about Taylor, you
could do it all day.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Dude. My aunt fell victim to this.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
My aunt fell victim to this during the Clay Aiken explosions.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
She was a.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Claymate and upon her passing, she literally like passed away
like typing on the chat room. So all of her friends,
I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding about this at all.
All of her friends in the chatrooms from around the country.
They came to the funeral, and they walked into the
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house afterwards and were taking pictures of like her computer
station so that they could share it on the chat
rooms to show where my aunt was talking to them from.
They wanted to have the full experience, and their interactions
in that world of the Claymate world included everything including
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fan fiction, and.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That was a big, big part of it.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So fan fiction is I think where the parasocial rabbit
hole starts where you when you start to get into that,
then the lines between reality get blurred, you know, and
what's make believe and what's really happening. And it was
considerable let's just say, uh, it was graphic graphic fan fiction.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Graphic fan fiction. As in Clay was in her league.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh yes, in Clay was like fabio okay, and he
which I understand, sure, and he was the man of
their dreams. And they all had their own stories of
what it might be like to experience to mold Clay.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Really, but Clay, am I incorrect that Clay was not
of their persuasion?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh no, you could not convince them of that. This
was before he had come out, okay. And so when
I mentioned it to her one I'll never it was
a Fourth of July party and.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
She's like, oh my god, Clay Agen, it's coming to Pittsburgh.
Can you can you possibly get me tickets? I'm like,
oh yeah, sure, thing.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm like She's like, I just I'm just so love
with them, and I'm like, well not, but no, then,
I mean, you are barking up the wrong tree there.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You realize that right, and she's like, huh, what do
you mean those are rumors? Maybe you're gay. That's what
she said to me. I swear to god, I just
said it like that, yeah, And I started laughing so hard.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I'm like, you're right, yeah, this might this might be
all about me being gay. I'm very very sorry we
had project it onto Clay. It's crazy that your aunt
was such a prolific.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Poster huge that other people were like, you know, we
lost a real one.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
They did, dude, That's what it was. They were like
the og. She was the og.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And my cousin God bless her, was like not really
thrilled about them being around. But my dad, who was
an idiot, thought it was hilarious and he was.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like, these guys are hilarious. He's like, they love Clay Achon.
It's so nuts. He's like, I invited him back to
the house. I'm like, no, what are you doing? He's like,
is that bad? Should I not have done? And I'm like, no,
you shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
My club sandwich and then they were they were going
through the houses just taking pictures of everything.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It was very strange.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So that was my hands on experience with a parasocial relationship,
like a group of people who were living in a
delusion to the extent that somebody that they were living
in that parasocial world with had passed. And they made
a state's you know, interstate you know, cross state lines
journey North Carolina. I think there was there was some
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from Florida and they all came up to Eerie for
the funeral. That's wild. And my aunt was awesome. She
was the nicest lady in the world, Like she was
super cool. And it was not anything I ever saw coming.
And it was like out of the blue. And you know,
she was a widower or widow rather, and I think
it just became a thing that she could glom onto
and it made perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The idea of the idea of your aunt as a
regular person, you know, like a regular like your aunt,
like everyone your mind's eye of an ant like in
the stand music video of Eminem like Clay I keep
writing fan thick about you, but you ain't calling.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That was basically what it was.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And just the how she felt like she was gonna
get swept off her feet by Clay Aiken. That was
the power of American idol back then. Something tells me,
there weren't any Rubens stuttered fan fictions happening. If it
were from like, you know, Alass's steakhouse, if you could.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Be oh, he catched the game last night.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Hey, Ruben's that a thick enough cut of meat for you?
The tender cuts are thicker and you can come back.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You would have to tell Ruben that, let me get
a half inch thick piece of roast beef. Come to
a dime with They're more tender that way. Can I
tuck into fifty dime slices?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, no, already just a sweaty meat cutter. Anyways, do
you have anybody that you have come close to? I mean,
being a fan of something and parasocial relationships are two
different things.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
That's the thing is that I'm of this mindset of
where kind of Mike always says that he is. I
don't want to meet anybody. I want to meet no one.
I met Josh Hammi of Queens of the Stone Age once.
I never want to meet him again. It was perfect, good,
like done, end a list list is done.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We did it.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
But I see this kind of parasocial relationship happened for
influencers a lot because those kind of people who maybe
became Internet famous and didn't expect to be then get this,
you know, flood of attention and don't realize how connected
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people feel to them and how much access and right
people feel to have an opinion about them because they
feel this connection in the relationship and then they have
to like leave social media because it's overwhelming to have
people be like, you know, you wrote you wrote that
one post or you said that one thing and just
so you know, like that was disgusting to me and
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now I hate you and everything, and then they cannot
deal with like the burden of the fame.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Basically, when you met Josh Hamie, were you on like
best behavior to just like, you know, stick and move
like I admire you greatly and you're a very important
artist in my life and it's nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Can we have a picture? Thank you? Like, were you
trying to not go overboard in gush?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I kept it brief and we had a beer together.
We had a picture and he signed a poster for me,
and yeah, I tried to get the.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Hell out of there.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Have you ever had met a celebrity?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I mean you you worked here for a while and
we're around Pittsburgh Steelers doing work for the for the
AM station there for a long time ninety seventy. Did
you ever run into somebody where you're like, I have
to keep it together because I'm such a big fan.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, maybe James Ferrier.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I was just really into him because he always seemed
like such a class sacked and then we had him
on Touching Wolf on the hillside of Camp and you're like, man,
what if this doesn't live up to my expectations of Fairier?
The bar is so high and he was just like
the nicest, sweetest guy ever. Yeah, So you know, like
Abby said like, wow, that went so well, and I didn't.
I didn't gush, I didn't go overboard. But you know,
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talking about these social media influencers, it's like, you know,
but I never saw a video where it's like.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So that's the inside of Farrier's apartment, huh. You know,
like you were into Bill Murray.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's like never you never had content you're like, so
that's his front yard, huh. Which is a thing now
where it's like you're seeing so much of a person's
life that you you feel like.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You're right there and you're not. Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Got to hang out with Chris Robinson once and I've
told the story on the show before, but my friend,
who is really good friends with him, was like, we
had another friend who's the kind of guy who would
go crazy when he met celebrities. He's like, he can't
pull one of those. And I was like, I know, dude,
I would never do that, and he's like I know.
He's like just so you know, you know, keep it cool,
and I'm like yeah. And he was playing with his
solo band at the at Metropol and we jumped on
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the bus afterwards, and like I walk on the bus
and he's sitting at the you know, like in those
busses where they have the table, you know, and there's
like four people could sit at the table, two facing
each other. He's on one side and he's got like
a box and there's nobody. The only seat is the
one there, and he's like sit out, man, And I
was like okay. And he had known that I was,
you know, part of DVE and we'd talked on the
radio before, but it ended up being like I sat
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down across from him and he was playing EUROP seventy
two and I was like, oh, is that why we
heard Bertha tonight and he's like, yeah, man, I'm on
a kick. And then he started going and all of
a sudden, I'm like interviewing Chris Robinson in front of
like everybody who's like kind of partying on the bus
and we're just having this conversation. But this is the
two of us, and I'm like, this is going really well.
I'll tell you what. This is cool. Like we're just talking.
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It's awesome. People are kind of interested in the conversation
we're having because it's we're kind of feeding off one
another and talking music.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
And I'm like, this is great.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, he's rolling a joint the whole time, you know,
and I'm like that's got to be insane. Whatever's in that, right,
And he fires it up and everybody's smoking a joint
and whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And then I'm like, I can probably handle.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Chris Robinson's lead No problem mag mag Mag And then uh,
we're sitting there. We talk a little bit more and
he's like, oh, I want to turn you guys on
some stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
He plays some more music, I grab it again, go
back on it again, whoop, And I'm like anybody else
and they're all like, oh no, man, I would never
go back at that, and I'm like, oh, what did
I do?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So fifteen minutes later, now I'm like, now I know
why nobody went back. Now I know this is this
is problematic. So we're sitting there and he starts talking
about the Jimmy Page tour.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Now now you're hitting me right right here.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And I'm sitting next to him, like we're like Indian
style on the floor with like four people, five people.
We're all kind of huddled around, you know, and he's
like playing music and stuff and he's he's talking about
one particular show with Jimmy, and he's like.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, And then he wanted to switch the set list.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But it's like, man, I mean it had to be
a certa way because I had to build up to
certain songs. I couldn't do the hardware ones early because
it blow up my voice and stuff, and I lost it.
I just went, man, you sang the bleep out of
those songs.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You were incredible. It was like I was seeing plan.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And then as soon as I did that and I
went way over, I went it was great meeting you, man,
I'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I just left.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I did, and I jumped off the bus and I
went across the street to that cage that sold pizza
in the Strip district.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Do you remember when you walk up.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
To the cage and it's just a guy behind a
fence and he'd pull it back and you'd be like,
two slices please, I just in front.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Of a celebrity tonight a lot You're gonna want.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Four exactly, And it was like two slices crushed them
and I'm like, well, it looks like I'm walking to
the incline to go back to my Washington man that
I screw up.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You know, it's bad when people are like, oh, I
could never take well, I couldn't have one more hit
of that.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It would kill me. Randy Chris Robinson said that, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Like, oh, I mean him a massive miscalculation.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
What am I doing?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I was just feeling my oats and then got the
knockout punch And that was the most embarrassing celebrity encounter
I ever had by far. I have seen him since
and he was like cool and he's like, aha, yeah, dude,
yeah frequently, you know, one of those things. But when
we did the opener with Warren Zevon at Knicks Fat City,
I mean he's like, my dude, Like, Warren is the best.
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And I was in awe because it was I think
maybe six months into me having worked here, and I
was just like, I'm I get to meet Warren Zema
and then we like did pants and Nat sketches before
him on stage. You know, look, we're doing morning show
sketches before he gets up and is touring behind the song.
I was in the house when the house burnt down,
and everybody is like taking pictures with them and everything.
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Do you remember the green room in the U in
Knicks Fat City downstairs, yes, dressing room, yes. So at
one point before he goes on, like we all go
to go up and I stop, and I because I'm
like everyone's leaving them alone. I'll have one second alone
with them. And I just wanted to have like that
Josh Hamil experience. And I was just like, hey, Warren,
real quick, not for nothing. I mean, I made a
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lot of money playing your songs through the years, and
you know, you're just a real important artist to me.
And the song Desperado under these really just changed the
way I thought about songwriting.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And he goes he was reading the Bible.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh my god, he was reading the Bible and he
went close the Bible and he looked up and he
went does berdo under the eaves?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Seemed like a good idea at the time. And I
was like, I'm out. That was thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I am not like he was nice enough to acknowledge
me without it being like, you know, going over the top.
And I didn't want to take too much. And I
was like, thank you, and I ran away.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And I was hoping he'd be like pants in that
explain it to him. So it's a storm. What's the symbolism,
it's it's Lonnie and warns Evon's next album. I like
pants and net related. You can get pens and other things.
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That's what Annett means, roll in the.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Pens and net clerk. Anyways, never meet your heroes. I
did meet the band Fish, and that was not as
much fun as I wanted it to be. John Mellencamp
was a notorious jerk. Meeting him here really not to me.
I didn't meet him, but like Val and Chris Winner
and all those guys, they met him, and there were
stories here for years about how just awful he was
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to everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
What I heard, there's some great David Lee Roth guess
DJ star. He was like, dude, everybody loved David Lee Roth.
Here he was. He did entire sets of like spinning music.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Here.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Did he like candles in the studio? Is that true?
I bet he did? I Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
He seems like a vibes guy.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
He seems he seems like he would need things to
be just right so he could.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Hi. This is David Lee Roth inside your Sterry in stereo,
brought to you by w DV.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
E one O two point five, Pittsburgh. Yeah sounds a
little yeah, Yeah, there's.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
A ton I mean Sean McDowell's sound bank. By the way,
Sean McDowell has not worked here for I don't even
know how many years. He has more in our sound
bank than I can't find stuff I did two weeks ago.
But if you want to hear Sean talking to David
Lee Roth from nineteen ninety seven, that's.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
There and no one will delete it. How could you
never touch it? Also, he's still DV Shawan on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I know, I love that. But he should be yeah, yeah,
he should be forever.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, you can always find him.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, do we want to delve into this? Timothy Shallomey stuff.
What's up to you, buddy, because I feel like he's
somebody that a lot of people have parasocial relationships with.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Oh yeah, well, uh, he might enjoy that.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Actually, there's this viral online theory that contends that Timothy
shallow May is secretly a UK rapper. Right now, okay,
named I think it's.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
He's the kid.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
He's the kid E S D E E K I
D with fans pointing to similar vocal tones and a
like a presumed accent that he has as evidence. But
like you know, he did that SNL skit with Pete
Davidson a while back, Like he can he can wrap,
he's done it before. But social media sleuths have turned
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out audio comparisons. Jacob, were you able to grab like
thirty seconds of that play just a little bit? Because
this is whatever the visuals, it absolutely looks like him.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yes, it's like a thousand percent looks like him.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yes, guys like ams in the state cands, that's so
much Spring collection just got by. Just stay on the
same fens on the same kid with the same friends
in the same Okay, I can't deal with that, but
I do think it looks like him.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
It really looks like.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Boys did not sound like him.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
No, it sounds like he's put on an accent.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But you know, it's like these baby Reindeer's brother.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, very much. It's not the weirdest thing that he's done.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
But the other very weird thing that he's done we've
kind of pointed out is definitely marketing this Marty Supreme
movie that's coming out in December. This was a thrill. Okay,
so TikTok was serving me and everybody should watch this.
It's a masterclass in marketing.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
But for the few moments that you're.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Not quite sure what to do with it, right, it
is so fun. It's a zoom meeting of him going
through and pitching ideas about how they should.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Pr for Marty Supreme, how to market this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
He is meeting with the filmmakers, the marketing people from
the studio and they're all in a zoom gallery and
Timothy Shallomey is giving his ideas and you kind of
get suckered in at the beginning into thinking is he
really this crazy? And then you realize as it goes on,
it's like, oh, this is like a Joaquin Phoenix style bit,
and it's actually very funny.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
It is eighteen minutes long of him talking about like I.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Had my marketing guys go through.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I had I had visual designers.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
We spent eighteen months on this color orange, like this
is going to change your life.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And then they like take a minute to like pull up.
He's like, all right, can you guys.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
See my screen And as he's going through his screensave,
like his screensaver is a picture of him winning an
oscar or this golden and you guys can see my
screen right yes, Yet to him, no, we can, we
can see it, and everything is check this out. Wow,
that's a nice orange orange orange talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Blimps raining down, ping pongs on everybody like he.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
It very much.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
It has like an office vibe to it, Yeah, like
where everyone's like kind of cringing around all of these
terrible ideas that this actor has, but they're not so
crazy that you think, like there might not be a
post ability that he actually believes this would be the
way to market the movie.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
The thing that like made it kind of plausible for
me is that he's dating Kylie Jenner.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Not anymore?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Wait is when did that happen?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
This week?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
They broke up?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's I thought I read that. I don't know, maybe
my algorithm was feed me misinformation. Maybe it's all part
of the marketing of this movie. He's dating Liam Neeson.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh my back out on the market. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Well, because you know a particular skills, some of them
happened to be man sex just hand stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
The reports, according to AI are false. Okay, so they're
still together.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
See they're still together.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But the thing is is that like it does like
kind of really cringey stuff all the time. And sometimes
he shows up at basketball games and he looks like
guy fiery, and so sometimes I can't tell what's the
funny and what's right him?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yes, where does the bit end?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Almost never, Tad. You must have that problem.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
People must be like, based on your comedy, people must
always think that you, like, is the are you doing
a bit? Are you actually just being eccentric?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Tad. There's a lot of stuff on there.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
When I do the Morty Tennis and character, people think
that I'm like a you know, trying to break into
the industry, Like I'm waiting for Katieka to call me
up and tell me that they have an opening.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
My favorite Morty Tennis in is the one where there's
snow on all the cars of Bloomfield and someone went
around drawing penises on all of them. That was you
can't say what the word what it's called, but yes,
it's a time on her tradition, you know, that first
snowfall walking home from the bar, Like, hey, you know
what I could do right now?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Wouldn't this be fun? Right?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Just trying penises on the windshields. Yeah, my wife's like, hey,
don't do it. I'm like, nont get it. I don't understand.
These are good natured people.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
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A lot to fog.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
This wee getting ready for Steelers and the Bears Sunday
at one o'clock kickoff here on DV Mike.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Sports Is are brought to you by bridgevill Clients. Aaron
Rodgers did not practice yesterday, but his intention yesterday was
to give it a shot today and he wants badly
to play on Sunday in Chicago, but not to play
the villain against the Bears again.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
I'd rather not be. I mean, I'm not in Green
Bay anymore. I feel like we can let bygones be bygones.
Maybe I can't. I guess it's been. It's a great rivalry.
I mean, in the history of all sports, you talk
about the Lakers and the Celtics and the Red Sox
and the Yankees, you got to talk about the Packers
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and the Bears. And there's been some great memories there.
When I first got to Green Bay, the Bears had
the all time series lead. When I left, the Packers did,
and since Jay Love is taken and over, it's even
gotten better. But I hope, I hope those fans can
put that, put that behind. I'm sure they can't. Don't
expect them to. But I really enjoyed the city. They
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got a great sportsman. I grew up watching WGN on
my five five channel TV back in the day, so
I was a Cubs fan and a Bulls fan. How
can I be a Bulls fan list you don't like
Michael Jordan?
Speaker 9 (25:21):
I did.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
I love them, so it was a lot of fun
memories over the years playing there.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
I don't know where he was going with that. They're
gonna torch him if he shows up, What do you
mean the fans? Oh yeah, like, don't boom me. I
liked Michael Jordan. Come on, he's a politician, passive aggressive,
reminding them that they're his bitch.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yes, okay, yeah, I swung a hundred year old series.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Not that it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I'm sure everyone's forgotten about it, right, rivalry that's been
going on since the beginning of his time. I sort
of changed the tide with them.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, but you know, lovely people really enjoy the town.
They're gonna go, well, he likes us. Actually we're the one.
We're the one time they might get buttered up like that.
We're we we love when people love us so much.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
We might be like yeah that in Chicago.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
Uh Mason Rudolph finished last Sunday in uh may or
may not start this Sunday. So Rudolph is doing what
he has become used to doing, straddling that fine line
between being prepared and casey plays and being understanding in
the event he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
You know, you gotta you have to. You have to
be chump with the bit, you know, every time your
numbers call, Otherwise you're gonna miss an opportunity. And it
won't be in the right mental state. And then but
you know, I've been back and forth, I got I
got plenty of punny of experience of going back and
forth in different roles, and so I just that's part
of what's probably chilled out my personality a little bit,
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because I just, you know, screw it and I just
you know, roll with the roll with the.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
Punches chilled out his personality. And I talked to him
in training camp in August, and he talked about how
he at that point had stopped keeping score in his
head of his practice completions and whether plays.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Worked or not, and how it was going.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
And he's, you know, he's kind of maniacal about am
I still making progress? And Okay, I'm here for a reason.
I'm a quarterback. Let's just get better today. And that's
what the small stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
His demeanor changed completely when he came back to the
Steelers after being in Tennessee, and because I know he
was thinking about just quitting and going and becoming a
real estate agent in Oklahoma, and then he ended up
having that year that got him the you know, the
gig down in Tennessee.
Speaker 9 (27:42):
The three wins at the end of the year that
got him in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yes, and then he goes down there. Not an ideal situation,
but he seems like way more zen about things. He
also didn't have it easy because Ben was just kind
of like he was persona on ground in the quarterbacks room,
and I think his real personality came out. And when
we talked to him last year about that stuff, it
was like, you know, he's the jokester and he writes
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comedy sketches for the quarterback.
Speaker 9 (28:08):
The receivers talk about how funny he is and what
a locker room presidency is, and.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
He wasn't like that for the first three or four years.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Yeah, tough to be that though, when you were in
that position that he was in then.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Right now he is.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
He hasn't done a ton, but he's done enough that
he's established and they trust him and he you know,
when he hasked to go in, he's ready to go in.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
As he was in that Bengals game.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
You know, they weren't losing, but it was ten to
nine when he got the ball for the first time
and he got the game to the finish line.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
And so let me ask you this, what is it
in your mind that keeps him from being a starting
quarterback caliber, Uh, you know quarterback in the NFL. What
is it about his game where you hear Aaron Rodgers go, oh,
he's a great backup. He's a great backup. I mean, yeah,
he wins the Charlie Batcher Ward for the Steeler fans,
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no doubt about it. But I've always thought, like going
into this year, I thought he was perfectly adequate to
get us to where we needed to go. Is he
a super Bowl winning quarterback? Maybe not not with this team,
but what he's guys good as Trent Dilfer.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
I would say that's probably the answer to your question,
is that he is not perceived as a guy who
can take a team all the way.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But why, what is it about his game? And is
he not I don't watch.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Any of his Tennessee tape because I just.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Figured that team was a disase. I didn't care.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
I mean, I've seen cam Ward play for them a
couple of times this year. He has no chance. Their
coach had no business coaching. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
it's just opportunity. It's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Most of the there's a lot of guys that start
popping seven years, eight years into the league.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He might be one of those guys. He could be
a geno Smith.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Baker I thought was always I thought Baker was always good,
much to the screw of Steeler fans, because every time
I mentioned it, they're like, well, why don't you root
for the Browns, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Like, he doesn't think I'm not saying I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
You could watch Baker play and the compete level jumped
off the TV.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Screen, no question, no question.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
He's struggling a little bit right now, but there was
so apparent yes, and I thought he would have been
a fun free agent for us to pick up for
the story, and then he ended up being pretty good.
I don't know if we would have put a good
enough team around him. He certainly had a uh you know,
cabal of incredibly talented receivers down there who are hurt
too often.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But got to have none. Withstanding he's got the cabal,
uh got to get one of them.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I think there are guys that have had way more
rope than Mason Rudolph that have you know, started twice
as many games as him. But I don't know if
he lacks you know, Baker the compete level. Mason doesn't
have this outward swag, this you know panache.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Maybe that I have a hot take, I think because
when he got knocked out of that Baltimore game and
they gave him the baseball's helmet and they had to
carry him off the field because they didn't have a cart,
that the perception of that backed up with Miles Garrett
whacking him on the head with his own helmet all
within a year just made everybody think that he was
like a clown. Yeah, it was perceptual. And then Duck
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was all swag and no talent or you know. I
saw Duck on a podcast yesterday for some reason. He
did some podcasts and it was coming up in my
reels and he literally said I could run for.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Mayor Pittsburgh and win. Wow, he goes. Those people love
me up there. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 9 (31:26):
We were coming back from Arizona that year and we
could have then we were in that ridiculous security line
at the airport and people had attached little rubber ducks
to their hat and they were wearing Duck shirts, and yeah,
he was We had Duck fever. He was a phenomena
for about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
True.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Then he threw four picks against Buffalo and that was that. Yeah,
he talked about that too. He's like, man that I
was thinking that game.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Abby. You'll have your news coming up at the top
of the hour.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
When is the best time to hit the road for Thanksgiving?
And speaking of that, what is your personal driving limit
for picking somebody ups?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
D Matthews from the Steelers Audio Network joins us when
we come back talking Steelers Bears right here on DVE.
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Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's Missy Matthews, Ladies and gentlemen. Hey, Missy, how are you?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Hey, guys, good morning.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'm sorry about uh uh pitt And I hope you
had fun.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That's what I was thinking on Saturday is I hope
you had fun, and I hope you got to meet
herb Street's dog.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
I did, I did, OK. It was like it was
a great atmosphere. Everything was great until like the first
few minutes of the game.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Until the game started, is what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically that's okay.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Get him next time. All right, Well, let's talk Steelers.
I'm glad you had fun. That's all I care about.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Uh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
My question to you is regarding Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
There's a vibe that he's giving off these days since
he's gone in the Darkness Retreat and taken the ayahuasca
and the ego killing moves that he's been doing, where
he seems very zen about everything.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And I you know, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Come out and say like, yeah, I want to beat
the Jets because Aaron Glenn disrespected me and that organization,
you know, really mangled things up there for a couple
of years. And he didn't say like, yeah, I want
to beat the Packers because they gave up on me
and I wanted to stay there, and they drafted my
predecessor before or my successor rather before I was ready
to go. And I don't like the way the things
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ended there, And yeah, I'd like to show him that
they made a big mistake. He never said anything like that,
but the assumption was that's what he was thinking. So
when it came to what he had to say about
the Bears yesterday, it seemed very passive aggressive, like, yeah,
I and four against those guys and I had some success.
But I love those fans, and I love the tone
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and the team and WGN, I watch their TV stations.
Do you think he still has that fire? Kyle Brandt
was saying, Oh, no, this is the game he's living for,
to play as a Pittsburgh Steeler, to go into Chicago
and show them who their daddy is. Again, do you
think he'll push past the injury because of that?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
I don't think he's gonna push through the injury because
of that. But like Nathan Rudolph basically said yesterday, like yeah,
you know, Aaron circled this game, we kind of, you know,
gave that away, which I don't think anybody's surprised. I
do think it's smart though, not to you know, get
them some bulletin board materially didn't do it before the
Jets and do it before Green Bay, like you said.
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But he's eleven and one at Soldier Field twenty four,
you know, and five against them all time. So I
just I just think he's a gamer. You know. He
literally was trying to come back into the game on Sunday,
right and they barely had you know, X rays or
examined him or whatever, and he was like, let's go.
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I mean I saw on that play when he grabbed
it immediately and how much pain he was in. But
then he was like, let's go. We got to run
another play, Like come on, let's try to get this done.
You know, I just think that's his mentality. But needless
to say, I'm sure adding another you know, victory over
the Bears into his career column would not be a
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bad thing. But I do think he downplayed it in
terms of like, hey, that's when I was with Green Bay,
Like I'm I'm with the Steelers now.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Do you think that last weekend against the Bengals, before
Jalen Warren got hurt, they were giving him the ball
quite a bit and it looked like Arthur Smith was
running the offense through Jalen Warren, which I'm a big
proponent of. Then he got hurt, Kenneth Gannwell came in
and had a hell of a game in his stead.
As he seems to do, which is great. But do
you think that indicates that Arthur Smith wants to commit
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more to the run going forward or was that game specific?
Will they revert back to throwing the ball as much
as they had been prior to that against the Bears?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
No, I mean, I do think it is a commitment
to like, hey, we got to get the run game going.
It helps keep them not one dimensional. And I think
you know, we've seen Kenny Gamewell have a game like
that before in Dublin. We didn't realize if Jalen Warren
was going to play or not. It was literally a
pregame decision. They worked him out, said nope. Kenny went
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also had two touchdowns that day and you know, almost
one hundred yards. So I think, you know, with both
of them, they have trust, and I do think it's
something whether it's those two. Caleb Johnson seems to get
in here and there every so often, but you know,
Darnel Washington looks like a pretty good poolback, running back,
whatever you want to call him, if you can get
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him the ball in some form or fashion and just
let him run people over. So I think too the
Bears have more takeaways in terms of their defense than
the Steelers. So I don't know if I want to
be slinging the ball all over there, but I think
committing to the run, which goes back to what Arthur
Smith said the offense was physical and running the ball
when he came to Pittsburgh as the OC is something
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they have to do.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
And I agree with you on that, Missie.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
I came out of that Bengals game really impressed by
the defense and the job that it did against Flacco
and those two elite receivers, and highly disappointed in the
offense for not just moving up and down the field
every time I got the ball and scoring a touchdown
every time I got the ball.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Our colleague Rob.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
King said, well, you know, it was pretty windy, and
maybe that helped the defense and maybe that hurt the offense.
When we talked on the pregame show, we were in
agreement the wind was going to be a factor.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
How bad was it.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
I mean, the wind was pretty crazy and it was
for I would say three quarters of the game. I
don't think it was you know, I saw somebody throw
a ball and it looked like it kind of caught
a little bit. I think it was more special.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Teams and whatnot.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
But I'm sure you know everybody both sides, both teams,
I should say, took that into account because it was
like a swirly wind. I don't know how let's explain
it where it just kind of like hovered around the
field and just kept making big purples and going every
which way. It didn't seem to have, you know, just
like one direction. But I don't think it was, you know,
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an end all be all in terms of like, hey,
we can give the offense the path if that makes.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Sense, Missy.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
If Mason Rudolph does end up starting, what hurts the
Steelers about that? And what is the benefit of Mason
Rudolph starting? What does he do better? Do you think
than Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
I mean, I think obviously he can push the ball
downfield a little bit more, but it's not like Aaron
can't do that. I just think that, you know, we
saw that twenty twenty three season when Rudolph saves Christmas
and the rest of the game got us to Buffalo
in a freaking snowstorm, and I think everybody has confidence
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in them. It's not like anybody on Sunday when they
realized it was Mason because it's not like Mason knew
ahead of time to go out and start warming up.
Luckily they didn't get the ball first, so he did
have time, but it was very much like at the
last second, Hey, Aaron's not coming out, Mason, you're up.
And I thought he did a very commendable job. I think,
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you know, there's enough people who have played with him before.
He's also the guy that got the entire team, the
offense through the off season workouts program, whether it was
when they could barely do anything in football and shorts
Ota is mini camp. You know, he took all those
first team reps, He worked with all those guys. They
did things on their own as well. So I think
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if it has to be Mason, I think everyone will
rally around him.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Missy.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Somebody has to do it.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
And one thing I'll say that Mason did better in
that game is he did find Roman Wilson.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Well. I was going to say, even when Aaron hurt
his wrist to play before and then when he went
to Roman Wilson on that next play, he was not
happy with Roman Wilson that incompletion there to end the half.
But yes, Roman Wilson, I mean, hey, it seems like
he's kind of taking a step ahead of Caylvion Austin
and I think, however, they need to make this work.
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Everybody needs to be unselfish. He k needs to get
the ball more and obviously a run game will help.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Them do that.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Missy Matthews brought to you by Boris and Boris Fighting
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Is it Soldier Field still or is it? What's the
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Like I think it is? Yeah, okay, not like I
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Right, everyone has a buddy who has like done ones.
It's you know, it's not unlike gambling. It's like you
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I was doing some drywall at the new place in
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Speaker 1 (01:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:07):
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that Twitter handle.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Right, Richard is your formal name, So yeah, that's what
we were talking about there.
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I totally forgot that was your Twitter handle. I would
not have anyways. Abby's got your news right now. We
got Missy Matthews joining us a little bit later on,
Abbey and Guy Junker is going to be joining us
each packed house here as we get ready for Steelers
and the Bears one o'clock Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Here on DV this is our Roddy Bay Window Nation.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
The fog advisory this morning. Troup be lifting soon. Otherwise
cloudy and high of forty six. Cambridge Dictionary has named
parasocial as its word of the Year for twenty twenty five.
Coined in nineteen fifty six by sociologist Donald Horton and
Richard Wool, the word was initially used to describe television
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viewers who formed one side relationships with TV personalities, but
in recent years the term has had a resurgence, often
associated with pop music fans who are overly familiar with
artists with whom they have no personal connection. So Cambridge
Dictionary specifically cited fans of Taylor Swift, who announced her
engagement to Travis Kelcey this year, prompting an emotional reaction
(02:22):
from some fans.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Also last year, chapel.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Rone made headlines for calling out weird and creepy followers
and calling out the predatory behavior of so called superfans
that includes non consensual physical and social interactions.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So this has become a real epidemic as people have,
you know, retreated into their cyber world and stopped interacting
with the outside world. Parasocial relationships with celebrities, internet figures, online,
you know, content creating, influencers and all that stuff is prevalent.
But I'm trying to think of any like what the
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closest I ever got to that was, And I would
think it was probably when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Just like if I saw.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Bill Murray, I'd be like, oh, I want to know
everything about like the people that made me laugh. But
I didn't like think I was in any sort of
give and take with that person.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You Now, there's a word for it, which means it's
getting bad, and that word essentially means pre stocker. Yes,
but Paris is a bit of a parasocial. The FBI
identified him as a parasocial. Yeah, not good. No, you're right,
it's a harbinger of things to come.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But it's also like so many people are getting like
wrapped up in this to the point of mental illness.
It's not even that it like transfers over into contacting them.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
They just get consumed.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
There's so much content that that's out there that if
you want Taylor's swift content and interactions about Taylor, you
could do it all day.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Dude. My aunt fell victim to this.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
My aunt fell victim to this during the Clay Aiken explosions.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
She was a.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Claymate and upon her passing, she literally like passed away
like typing on the chat room. So all of her friends,
I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding about this at all.
All of her friends in the chatrooms from around the country.
They came to the funeral, and they walked into the
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house afterwards and were taking pictures of like her computer
station so that they could share it on the chat
rooms to show where my aunt was talking to them from.
They wanted to have the full experience, and their interactions
in that world of the Claymate world included everything including
(04:50):
fan fiction, and.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That was a big, big part of it.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So fan fiction is I think where the parasocial rabbit
hole starts where you when you start to get into that,
then the lines between reality get blurred, you know, and
what's make believe and what's really happening. And it was
considerable let's just say, uh, it was graphic graphic fan fiction.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Graphic fan fiction. As in Clay was in her league.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh yes, in Clay was like fabio okay, and he
which I understand, sure, and he was the man of
their dreams. And they all had their own stories of
what it might be like to experience to mold Clay.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Really, but Clay, am I incorrect that Clay was not
of their persuasion?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh no, you could not convince them of that. This
was before he had come out, okay. And so when
I mentioned it to her one I'll never it was
a Fourth of July party and.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
She's like, oh my god, Clay Agen, it's coming to Pittsburgh.
Can you can you possibly get me tickets? I'm like,
oh yeah, sure, thing.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm like She's like, I just I'm just so love
with them, and I'm like, well not, but no, then,
I mean, you are barking up the wrong tree there.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You realize that right, and she's like, huh, what do
you mean those are rumors? Maybe you're gay. That's what
she said to me. I swear to god, I just
said it like that, yeah, And I started laughing so hard.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I'm like, you're right, yeah, this might this might be
all about me being gay. I'm very very sorry we
had project it onto Clay. It's crazy that your aunt
was such a prolific.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Poster huge that other people were like, you know, we
lost a real one.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
They did, dude, That's what it was. They were like
the og. She was the og.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And my cousin God bless her, was like not really
thrilled about them being around. But my dad, who was
an idiot, thought it was hilarious and he was.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like, these guys are hilarious. He's like, they love Clay Achon.
It's so nuts. He's like, I invited him back to
the house. I'm like, no, what are you doing? He's like,
is that bad? Should I not have done? And I'm like, no,
you shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
My club sandwich and then they were they were going
through the houses just taking pictures of everything.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It was very strange.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So that was my hands on experience with a parasocial relationship,
like a group of people who were living in a
delusion to the extent that somebody that they were living
in that parasocial world with had passed. And they made
a state's you know, interstate you know, cross state lines
journey North Carolina. I think there was there was some
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from Florida and they all came up to Eerie for
the funeral. That's wild. And my aunt was awesome. She
was the nicest lady in the world, Like she was
super cool. And it was not anything I ever saw coming.
And it was like out of the blue. And you know,
she was a widower or widow rather, and I think
it just became a thing that she could glom onto
and it made perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The idea of the idea of your aunt as a
regular person, you know, like a regular like your aunt,
like everyone your mind's eye of an ant like in
the stand music video of Eminem like Clay I keep
writing fan thick about you, but you ain't calling.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That was basically what it was.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And just the how she felt like she was gonna
get swept off her feet by Clay Aiken. That was
the power of American idol back then. Something tells me,
there weren't any Rubens stuttered fan fictions happening. If it
were from like, you know, Alass's steakhouse, if you could.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Be oh, he catched the game last night.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Hey, Ruben's that a thick enough cut of meat for you?
The tender cuts are thicker and you can come back.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You would have to tell Ruben that, let me get
a half inch thick piece of roast beef. Come to
a dime with They're more tender that way. Can I
tuck into fifty dime slices?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, no, already just a sweaty meat cutter. Anyways, do
you have anybody that you have come close to? I mean,
being a fan of something and parasocial relationships are two
different things.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
That's the thing is that I'm of this mindset of
where kind of Mike always says that he is. I
don't want to meet anybody. I want to meet no one.
I met Josh Hammi of Queens of the Stone Age once.
I never want to meet him again. It was perfect, good,
like done, end a list list is done.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We did it.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
But I see this kind of parasocial relationship happened for
influencers a lot because those kind of people who maybe
became Internet famous and didn't expect to be then get this,
you know, flood of attention and don't realize how connected
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people feel to them and how much access and right
people feel to have an opinion about them because they
feel this connection in the relationship and then they have
to like leave social media because it's overwhelming to have
people be like, you know, you wrote you wrote that
one post or you said that one thing and just
so you know, like that was disgusting to me and
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now I hate you and everything, and then they cannot
deal with like the burden of the fame.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Basically, when you met Josh Hamie, were you on like
best behavior to just like, you know, stick and move
like I admire you greatly and you're a very important
artist in my life and it's nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Can we have a picture? Thank you? Like, were you
trying to not go overboard in gush?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I kept it brief and we had a beer together.
We had a picture and he signed a poster for me,
and yeah, I tried to get the.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Hell out of there.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Have you ever had met a celebrity?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I mean you you worked here for a while and
we're around Pittsburgh Steelers doing work for the for the
AM station there for a long time ninety seventy. Did
you ever run into somebody where you're like, I have
to keep it together because I'm such a big fan.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, maybe James Ferrier.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I was just really into him because he always seemed
like such a class sacked and then we had him
on Touching Wolf on the hillside of Camp and you're like, man,
what if this doesn't live up to my expectations of Fairier?
The bar is so high and he was just like
the nicest, sweetest guy ever. Yeah, So you know, like
Abby said like, wow, that went so well, and I didn't.
I didn't gush, I didn't go overboard. But you know,
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talking about these social media influencers, it's like, you know,
but I never saw a video where it's like.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So that's the inside of Farrier's apartment, huh. You know,
like you were into Bill Murray.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's like never you never had content you're like, so
that's his front yard, huh. Which is a thing now
where it's like you're seeing so much of a person's
life that you you feel like.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You're right there and you're not. Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Got to hang out with Chris Robinson once and I've
told the story on the show before, but my friend,
who is really good friends with him, was like, we
had another friend who's the kind of guy who would
go crazy when he met celebrities. He's like, he can't
pull one of those. And I was like, I know, dude,
I would never do that, and he's like I know.
He's like just so you know, you know, keep it cool,
and I'm like yeah. And he was playing with his
solo band at the at Metropol and we jumped on
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the bus afterwards, and like I walk on the bus
and he's sitting at the you know, like in those
busses where they have the table, you know, and there's
like four people could sit at the table, two facing
each other. He's on one side and he's got like
a box and there's nobody. The only seat is the
one there, and he's like sit out, man, And I
was like okay. And he had known that I was,
you know, part of DVE and we'd talked on the
radio before, but it ended up being like I sat
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down across from him and he was playing EUROP seventy
two and I was like, oh, is that why we
heard Bertha tonight and he's like, yeah, man, I'm on
a kick. And then he started going and all of
a sudden, I'm like interviewing Chris Robinson in front of
like everybody who's like kind of partying on the bus
and we're just having this conversation. But this is the
two of us, and I'm like, this is going really well.
I'll tell you what. This is cool. Like we're just talking.
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It's awesome. People are kind of interested in the conversation
we're having because it's we're kind of feeding off one
another and talking music.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
And I'm like, this is great.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, he's rolling a joint the whole time, you know,
and I'm like that's got to be insane. Whatever's in that, right,
And he fires it up and everybody's smoking a joint
and whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And then I'm like, I can probably handle.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Chris Robinson's lead No problem mag mag Mag And then uh,
we're sitting there. We talk a little bit more and
he's like, oh, I want to turn you guys on
some stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
He plays some more music, I grab it again, go
back on it again, whoop, And I'm like anybody else
and they're all like, oh no, man, I would never
go back at that, and I'm like, oh, what did
I do?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So fifteen minutes later, now I'm like, now I know
why nobody went back. Now I know this is this
is problematic. So we're sitting there and he starts talking
about the Jimmy Page tour.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Now now you're hitting me right right here.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And I'm sitting next to him, like we're like Indian
style on the floor with like four people, five people.
We're all kind of huddled around, you know, and he's
like playing music and stuff and he's he's talking about
one particular show with Jimmy, and he's like.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, And then he wanted to switch the set list.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But it's like, man, I mean it had to be
a certa way because I had to build up to
certain songs. I couldn't do the hardware ones early because
it blow up my voice and stuff, and I lost it.
I just went, man, you sang the bleep out of
those songs.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You were incredible. It was like I was seeing plan.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And then as soon as I did that and I
went way over, I went it was great meeting you, man,
I'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I just left.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I did, and I jumped off the bus and I
went across the street to that cage that sold pizza
in the Strip district.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Do you remember when you walk up.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
To the cage and it's just a guy behind a
fence and he'd pull it back and you'd be like,
two slices please, I just in front.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Of a celebrity tonight a lot You're gonna want.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Four exactly, And it was like two slices crushed them
and I'm like, well, it looks like I'm walking to
the incline to go back to my Washington man that
I screw up.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You know, it's bad when people are like, oh, I
could never take well, I couldn't have one more hit
of that.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It would kill me. Randy Chris Robinson said that, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Like, oh, I mean him a massive miscalculation.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
What am I doing?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I was just feeling my oats and then got the
knockout punch And that was the most embarrassing celebrity encounter
I ever had by far. I have seen him since
and he was like cool and he's like, aha, yeah, dude,
yeah frequently, you know, one of those things. But when
we did the opener with Warren Zevon at Knicks Fat City,
I mean he's like, my dude, Like, Warren is the best.
(15:22):
And I was in awe because it was I think
maybe six months into me having worked here, and I
was just like, I'm I get to meet Warren Zema
and then we like did pants and Nat sketches before
him on stage. You know, look, we're doing morning show
sketches before he gets up and is touring behind the song.
I was in the house when the house burnt down,
and everybody is like taking pictures with them and everything.
(15:45):
Do you remember the green room in the U in
Knicks Fat City downstairs, yes, dressing room, yes. So at
one point before he goes on, like we all go
to go up and I stop, and I because I'm
like everyone's leaving them alone. I'll have one second alone
with them. And I just wanted to have like that
Josh Hamil experience. And I was just like, hey, Warren,
real quick, not for nothing. I mean, I made a
(16:05):
lot of money playing your songs through the years, and
you know, you're just a real important artist to me.
And the song Desperado under these really just changed the
way I thought about songwriting.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And he goes he was reading the Bible.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh my god, he was reading the Bible and he
went close the Bible and he looked up and he
went does berdo under the eaves?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Seemed like a good idea at the time. And I
was like, I'm out. That was thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I am not like he was nice enough to acknowledge
me without it being like, you know, going over the top.
And I didn't want to take too much. And I
was like, thank you, and I ran away.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And I was hoping he'd be like pants in that
explain it to him. So it's a storm. What's the symbolism,
it's it's Lonnie and warns Evon's next album. I like
pants and net related. You can get pens and other things.
(17:04):
That's what Annett means, roll in the.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Pens and net clerk. Anyways, never meet your heroes. I
did meet the band Fish, and that was not as
much fun as I wanted it to be. John Mellencamp
was a notorious jerk. Meeting him here really not to me.
I didn't meet him, but like Val and Chris Winner
and all those guys, they met him, and there were
stories here for years about how just awful he was
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to everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
What I heard, there's some great David Lee Roth guess
DJ star. He was like, dude, everybody loved David Lee Roth.
Here he was. He did entire sets of like spinning music.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Here.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Did he like candles in the studio? Is that true?
I bet he did? I Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
He seems like a vibes guy.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
He seems he seems like he would need things to
be just right so he could.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Hi. This is David Lee Roth inside your Sterry in stereo,
brought to you by w DV.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
E one O two point five, Pittsburgh. Yeah sounds a
little yeah, Yeah, there's.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
A ton I mean Sean McDowell's sound bank. By the way,
Sean McDowell has not worked here for I don't even
know how many years. He has more in our sound
bank than I can't find stuff I did two weeks ago.
But if you want to hear Sean talking to David
Lee Roth from nineteen ninety seven, that's.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
There and no one will delete it. How could you
never touch it? Also, he's still DV Shawan on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I know, I love that. But he should be yeah, yeah,
he should be forever.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, you can always find him.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, do we want to delve into this? Timothy Shallomey stuff.
What's up to you, buddy, because I feel like he's
somebody that a lot of people have parasocial relationships with.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Oh yeah, well, uh, he might enjoy that.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Actually, there's this viral online theory that contends that Timothy
shallow May is secretly a UK rapper. Right now, okay,
named I think it's.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
He's the kid.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
He's the kid E S D E E K I
D with fans pointing to similar vocal tones and a
like a presumed accent that he has as evidence. But
like you know, he did that SNL skit with Pete
Davidson a while back, Like he can he can wrap,
he's done it before. But social media sleuths have turned
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out audio comparisons. Jacob, were you able to grab like
thirty seconds of that play just a little bit? Because
this is whatever the visuals, it absolutely looks like him.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yes, it's like a thousand percent looks like him.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yes, guys like ams in the state cands, that's so
much Spring collection just got by. Just stay on the
same fens on the same kid with the same friends
in the same Okay, I can't deal with that, but
I do think it looks like him.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
It really looks like.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Boys did not sound like him.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
No, it sounds like he's put on an accent.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But you know, it's like these baby Reindeer's brother.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, very much. It's not the weirdest thing that he's done.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
But the other very weird thing that he's done we've
kind of pointed out is definitely marketing this Marty Supreme
movie that's coming out in December. This was a thrill. Okay,
so TikTok was serving me and everybody should watch this.
It's a masterclass in marketing.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
But for the few moments that you're.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Not quite sure what to do with it, right, it
is so fun. It's a zoom meeting of him going
through and pitching ideas about how they should.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Pr for Marty Supreme, how to market this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
He is meeting with the filmmakers, the marketing people from
the studio and they're all in a zoom gallery and
Timothy Shallomey is giving his ideas and you kind of
get suckered in at the beginning into thinking is he
really this crazy? And then you realize as it goes on,
it's like, oh, this is like a Joaquin Phoenix style bit,
and it's actually very funny.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
It is eighteen minutes long of him talking about like I.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Had my marketing guys go through.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I had I had visual designers.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
We spent eighteen months on this color orange, like this
is going to change your life.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And then they like take a minute to like pull up.
He's like, all right, can you guys.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
See my screen And as he's going through his screensave,
like his screensaver is a picture of him winning an
oscar or this golden and you guys can see my
screen right yes, Yet to him, no, we can, we
can see it, and everything is check this out. Wow,
that's a nice orange orange orange talking about.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Blimps raining down, ping pongs on everybody like he.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
It very much.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
It has like an office vibe to it, Yeah, like
where everyone's like kind of cringing around all of these
terrible ideas that this actor has, but they're not so
crazy that you think, like there might not be a
post ability that he actually believes this would be the
way to market the movie.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
The thing that like made it kind of plausible for
me is that he's dating Kylie Jenner.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Not anymore?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Wait is when did that happen?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
This week?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
They broke up?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's I thought I read that. I don't know, maybe
my algorithm was feed me misinformation. Maybe it's all part
of the marketing of this movie. He's dating Liam Neeson.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh my back out on the market. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Well, because you know a particular skills, some of them
happened to be man sex just hand stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
The reports, according to AI are false. Okay, so they're
still together.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
See they're still together.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But the thing is is that like it does like
kind of really cringey stuff all the time. And sometimes
he shows up at basketball games and he looks like
guy fiery, and so sometimes I can't tell what's the
funny and what's right him?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yes, where does the bit end?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Almost never, Tad. You must have that problem.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
People must be like, based on your comedy, people must
always think that you, like, is the are you doing
a bit? Are you actually just being eccentric?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Tad. There's a lot of stuff on there.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
When I do the Morty Tennis and character, people think
that I'm like a you know, trying to break into
the industry, Like I'm waiting for Katieka to call me
up and tell me that they have an opening.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
My favorite Morty Tennis in is the one where there's
snow on all the cars of Bloomfield and someone went
around drawing penises on all of them. That was you
can't say what the word what it's called, but yes,
it's a time on her tradition, you know, that first
snowfall walking home from the bar, Like, hey, you know
what I could do right now?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Wouldn't this be fun? Right?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Just trying penises on the windshields. Yeah, my wife's like, hey,
don't do it. I'm like, nont get it. I don't understand.
These are good natured people.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, Mike's got your sports. When we come back here
on the DV morning show Versity Weather Center, schedule your
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Speaker 4 (24:03):
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Speaker 1 (24:06):
A lot to fog.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
This wee getting ready for Steelers and the Bears Sunday
at one o'clock kickoff here on DV Mike.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Sports Is are brought to you by bridgevill Clients. Aaron
Rodgers did not practice yesterday, but his intention yesterday was
to give it a shot today and he wants badly
to play on Sunday in Chicago, but not to play
the villain against the Bears again.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
I'd rather not be. I mean, I'm not in Green
Bay anymore. I feel like we can let bygones be bygones.
Maybe I can't. I guess it's been. It's a great rivalry.
I mean, in the history of all sports, you talk
about the Lakers and the Celtics and the Red Sox
and the Yankees, you got to talk about the Packers
(24:49):
and the Bears. And there's been some great memories there.
When I first got to Green Bay, the Bears had
the all time series lead. When I left, the Packers did,
and since Jay Love is taken and over, it's even
gotten better. But I hope, I hope those fans can
put that, put that behind. I'm sure they can't. Don't
expect them to. But I really enjoyed the city. They
(25:11):
got a great sportsman. I grew up watching WGN on
my five five channel TV back in the day, so
I was a Cubs fan and a Bulls fan. How
can I be a Bulls fan list you don't like
Michael Jordan?
Speaker 9 (25:21):
I did.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
I love them, so it was a lot of fun
memories over the years playing there.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
I don't know where he was going with that. They're
gonna torch him if he shows up, What do you
mean the fans? Oh yeah, like, don't boom me. I
liked Michael Jordan. Come on, he's a politician, passive aggressive,
reminding them that they're his bitch.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yes, okay, yeah, I swung a hundred year old series.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Not that it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I'm sure everyone's forgotten about it, right, rivalry that's been
going on since the beginning of his time. I sort
of changed the tide with them.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, but you know, lovely people really enjoy the town.
They're gonna go, well, he likes us. Actually we're the one.
We're the one time they might get buttered up like that.
We're we we love when people love us so much.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
We might be like yeah that in Chicago.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
Uh Mason Rudolph finished last Sunday in uh may or
may not start this Sunday. So Rudolph is doing what
he has become used to doing, straddling that fine line
between being prepared and casey plays and being understanding in
the event he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
You know, you gotta you have to. You have to
be chump with the bit, you know, every time your
numbers call, Otherwise you're gonna miss an opportunity. And it
won't be in the right mental state. And then but
you know, I've been back and forth, I got I
got plenty of punny of experience of going back and
forth in different roles, and so I just that's part
of what's probably chilled out my personality a little bit,
(26:50):
because I just, you know, screw it and I just
you know, roll with the roll with the.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
Punches chilled out his personality. And I talked to him
in training camp in August, and he talked about how
he at that point had stopped keeping score in his
head of his practice completions and whether plays.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Worked or not, and how it was going.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
And he's, you know, he's kind of maniacal about am
I still making progress? And Okay, I'm here for a reason.
I'm a quarterback. Let's just get better today. And that's
what the small stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
His demeanor changed completely when he came back to the
Steelers after being in Tennessee, and because I know he
was thinking about just quitting and going and becoming a
real estate agent in Oklahoma, and then he ended up
having that year that got him the you know, the
gig down in Tennessee.
Speaker 9 (27:42):
The three wins at the end of the year that
got him in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yes, and then he goes down there. Not an ideal situation,
but he seems like way more zen about things. He
also didn't have it easy because Ben was just kind
of like he was persona on ground in the quarterbacks room,
and I think his real personality came out. And when
we talked to him last year about that stuff, it
was like, you know, he's the jokester and he writes
(28:05):
comedy sketches for the quarterback.
Speaker 9 (28:08):
The receivers talk about how funny he is and what
a locker room presidency is, and.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
He wasn't like that for the first three or four years.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Yeah, tough to be that though, when you were in
that position that he was in then.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Right now he is.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
He hasn't done a ton, but he's done enough that
he's established and they trust him and he you know,
when he hasked to go in, he's ready to go in.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
As he was in that Bengals game.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
You know, they weren't losing, but it was ten to
nine when he got the ball for the first time
and he got the game to the finish line.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
And so let me ask you this, what is it
in your mind that keeps him from being a starting
quarterback caliber, Uh, you know quarterback in the NFL. What
is it about his game where you hear Aaron Rodgers go, oh,
he's a great backup. He's a great backup. I mean, yeah,
he wins the Charlie Batcher Ward for the Steeler fans,
(29:00):
no doubt about it. But I've always thought, like going
into this year, I thought he was perfectly adequate to
get us to where we needed to go. Is he
a super Bowl winning quarterback? Maybe not not with this team,
but what he's guys good as Trent Dilfer.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
I would say that's probably the answer to your question,
is that he is not perceived as a guy who
can take a team all the way.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But why, what is it about his game? And is
he not I don't watch.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Any of his Tennessee tape because I just.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Figured that team was a disase. I didn't care.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
I mean, I've seen cam Ward play for them a
couple of times this year. He has no chance. Their
coach had no business coaching. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
it's just opportunity. It's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Most of the there's a lot of guys that start
popping seven years, eight years into the league.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He might be one of those guys. He could be
a geno Smith.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Baker I thought was always I thought Baker was always good,
much to the screw of Steeler fans, because every time
I mentioned it, they're like, well, why don't you root
for the Browns, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Like, he doesn't think I'm not saying I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
You could watch Baker play and the compete level jumped
off the TV.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Screen, no question, no question.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
He's struggling a little bit right now, but there was
so apparent yes, and I thought he would have been
a fun free agent for us to pick up for
the story, and then he ended up being pretty good.
I don't know if we would have put a good
enough team around him. He certainly had a uh you know,
cabal of incredibly talented receivers down there who are hurt
too often.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But got to have none. Withstanding he's got the cabal,
uh got to get one of them.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I think there are guys that have had way more
rope than Mason Rudolph that have you know, started twice
as many games as him. But I don't know if
he lacks you know, Baker the compete level. Mason doesn't
have this outward swag, this you know panache.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Maybe that I have a hot take, I think because
when he got knocked out of that Baltimore game and
they gave him the baseball's helmet and they had to
carry him off the field because they didn't have a cart,
that the perception of that backed up with Miles Garrett
whacking him on the head with his own helmet all
within a year just made everybody think that he was
like a clown. Yeah, it was perceptual. And then Duck
(31:08):
was all swag and no talent or you know. I
saw Duck on a podcast yesterday for some reason. He
did some podcasts and it was coming up in my
reels and he literally said I could run for.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Mayor Pittsburgh and win. Wow, he goes. Those people love
me up there. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 9 (31:26):
We were coming back from Arizona that year and we
could have then we were in that ridiculous security line
at the airport and people had attached little rubber ducks
to their hat and they were wearing Duck shirts, and yeah,
he was We had Duck fever. He was a phenomena
for about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
True.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Then he threw four picks against Buffalo and that was that. Yeah,
he talked about that too. He's like, man that I
was thinking that game.
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
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we come back talking Steelers Bears right here on DVE.
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Our next guest, brought to you by Boris and bortis
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Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's Missy Matthews, Ladies and gentlemen. Hey, Missy, how are you?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Hey, guys, good morning.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'm sorry about uh uh pitt And I hope you
had fun.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That's what I was thinking on Saturday is I hope
you had fun, and I hope you got to meet
herb Street's dog.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
I did, I did, OK. It was like it was
a great atmosphere. Everything was great until like the first
few minutes of the game.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Until the game started, is what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically that's okay.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Get him next time. All right, Well, let's talk Steelers.
I'm glad you had fun. That's all I care about.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Uh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
My question to you is regarding Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
There's a vibe that he's giving off these days since
he's gone in the Darkness Retreat and taken the ayahuasca
and the ego killing moves that he's been doing, where
he seems very zen about everything.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And I you know, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Come out and say like, yeah, I want to beat
the Jets because Aaron Glenn disrespected me and that organization,
you know, really mangled things up there for a couple
of years. And he didn't say like, yeah, I want
to beat the Packers because they gave up on me
and I wanted to stay there, and they drafted my
predecessor before or my successor rather before I was ready
to go. And I don't like the way the things
(33:45):
ended there, And yeah, I'd like to show him that
they made a big mistake. He never said anything like that,
but the assumption was that's what he was thinking. So
when it came to what he had to say about
the Bears yesterday, it seemed very passive aggressive, like, yeah,
I and four against those guys and I had some success.
But I love those fans, and I love the tone
(34:05):
and the team and WGN, I watch their TV stations.
Do you think he still has that fire? Kyle Brandt
was saying, Oh, no, this is the game he's living for,
to play as a Pittsburgh Steeler, to go into Chicago
and show them who their daddy is. Again, do you
think he'll push past the injury because of that?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
I don't think he's gonna push through the injury because
of that. But like Nathan Rudolph basically said yesterday, like yeah,
you know, Aaron circled this game, we kind of, you know,
gave that away, which I don't think anybody's surprised. I
do think it's smart though, not to you know, get
them some bulletin board materially didn't do it before the
Jets and do it before Green Bay, like you said.
(34:50):
But he's eleven and one at Soldier Field twenty four,
you know, and five against them all time. So I
just I just think he's a gamer. You know. He
literally was trying to come back into the game on Sunday,
right and they barely had you know, X rays or
examined him or whatever, and he was like, let's go.
(35:10):
I mean I saw on that play when he grabbed
it immediately and how much pain he was in. But
then he was like, let's go. We got to run
another play, Like come on, let's try to get this done.
You know, I just think that's his mentality. But needless
to say, I'm sure adding another you know, victory over
the Bears into his career column would not be a
(35:33):
bad thing. But I do think he downplayed it in
terms of like, hey, that's when I was with Green Bay,
Like I'm I'm with the Steelers now.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Do you think that last weekend against the Bengals, before
Jalen Warren got hurt, they were giving him the ball
quite a bit and it looked like Arthur Smith was
running the offense through Jalen Warren, which I'm a big
proponent of. Then he got hurt, Kenneth Gannwell came in
and had a hell of a game in his stead.
As he seems to do, which is great. But do
you think that indicates that Arthur Smith wants to commit
(36:05):
more to the run going forward or was that game specific?
Will they revert back to throwing the ball as much
as they had been prior to that against the Bears?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
No, I mean, I do think it is a commitment
to like, hey, we got to get the run game going.
It helps keep them not one dimensional. And I think
you know, we've seen Kenny Gamewell have a game like
that before in Dublin. We didn't realize if Jalen Warren
was going to play or not. It was literally a
pregame decision. They worked him out, said nope. Kenny went
(36:36):
also had two touchdowns that day and you know, almost
one hundred yards. So I think, you know, with both
of them, they have trust, and I do think it's
something whether it's those two. Caleb Johnson seems to get
in here and there every so often, but you know,
Darnel Washington looks like a pretty good poolback, running back,
whatever you want to call him, if you can get
(36:57):
him the ball in some form or fashion and just
let him run people over. So I think too the
Bears have more takeaways in terms of their defense than
the Steelers. So I don't know if I want to
be slinging the ball all over there, but I think
committing to the run, which goes back to what Arthur
Smith said the offense was physical and running the ball
when he came to Pittsburgh as the OC is something
(37:19):
they have to do.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
And I agree with you on that, Missie.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
I came out of that Bengals game really impressed by
the defense and the job that it did against Flacco
and those two elite receivers, and highly disappointed in the
offense for not just moving up and down the field
every time I got the ball and scoring a touchdown
every time I got the ball.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Our colleague Rob.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
King said, well, you know, it was pretty windy, and
maybe that helped the defense and maybe that hurt the offense.
When we talked on the pregame show, we were in
agreement the wind was going to be a factor.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
How bad was it.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
I mean, the wind was pretty crazy and it was
for I would say three quarters of the game. I
don't think it was you know, I saw somebody throw
a ball and it looked like it kind of caught
a little bit. I think it was more special.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Teams and whatnot.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
But I'm sure you know everybody both sides, both teams,
I should say, took that into account because it was
like a swirly wind. I don't know how let's explain
it where it just kind of like hovered around the
field and just kept making big purples and going every
which way. It didn't seem to have, you know, just
like one direction. But I don't think it was, you know,
(38:30):
an end all be all in terms of like, hey,
we can give the offense the path if that makes.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Sense, Missy.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
If Mason Rudolph does end up starting, what hurts the
Steelers about that? And what is the benefit of Mason
Rudolph starting? What does he do better? Do you think
than Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
I mean, I think obviously he can push the ball
downfield a little bit more, but it's not like Aaron
can't do that. I just think that, you know, we
saw that twenty twenty three season when Rudolph saves Christmas
and the rest of the game got us to Buffalo
in a freaking snowstorm, and I think everybody has confidence
(39:07):
in them. It's not like anybody on Sunday when they
realized it was Mason because it's not like Mason knew
ahead of time to go out and start warming up.
Luckily they didn't get the ball first, so he did
have time, but it was very much like at the
last second, Hey, Aaron's not coming out, Mason, you're up.
And I thought he did a very commendable job. I think,
(39:28):
you know, there's enough people who have played with him before.
He's also the guy that got the entire team, the
offense through the off season workouts program, whether it was
when they could barely do anything in football and shorts
Ota is mini camp. You know, he took all those
first team reps, He worked with all those guys. They
did things on their own as well. So I think
(39:49):
if it has to be Mason, I think everyone will
rally around him.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Missy.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Somebody has to do it.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
And one thing I'll say that Mason did better in
that game is he did find Roman Wilson.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Well. I was going to say, even when Aaron hurt
his wrist to play before and then when he went
to Roman Wilson on that next play, he was not
happy with Roman Wilson that incompletion there to end the half.
But yes, Roman Wilson, I mean, hey, it seems like
he's kind of taking a step ahead of Caylvion Austin
and I think, however, they need to make this work.
(40:23):
Everybody needs to be unselfish. He k needs to get
the ball more and obviously a run game will help.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Them do that.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Missy Matthews brought to you by Boris and Boris Fighting
for Justice. This morning on DVE.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You can hear her alongside Rob King and Max Starks
live from Soldier Field in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Is it Soldier Field still or is it? What's the
sponsor on it? Is it like I think it's still
Soldier Field, Not.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Like I think it is? Yeah, okay, not like I
don't know it might not.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Pay Core Stadium at Soldier Field or something like that. Well,
at any rate, you can hear her alongside Rob King
and Max Starks on the Steelers Audio Network broadcast right
here on your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one
O two point five DVE.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Thanks Missy, Thanks guys. Tractor trailers are some of the
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