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Speaker 3 (00:37):
The action pass looking at a fire deep off the
left sideline for Metcap reaping at tent and brought down
by the Bears out of bounds. However, is right right
has foreigner sception. No, the near officials saying you came
down with it a tremendous leaping brab by right, one
handed snag and let's see that's good you real books,

(01:01):
is an interception by the defense first down Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, Mason Rudolph struggling on that one. I don't even
know why they were throwing the ball there other than you.
When you have DK metcalfin single coverage, you got to
take a shot. But what you can't do is underthrow it.
And that's what the backup quarterback did in that situation.
The Steelers would lose yesterday to the Bears thirty one
to twenty eight at Soldier Field, and they really screwed

(01:29):
it up. Mike Tomlin's teams are the perennial box of
chocolates from game to game, from series to series, from
half to half. You never know what you're gonna get
with the Pittsburgh Steelers, except for the predictability of the offense,

(01:49):
which at this point they are so limited in what
they can do through the air. They only had one
ball go past ten yards yesterday in the air. I
think Mason had one hundred and seventy one yards total passing.
I believe I read that one hundred and sixty of
those yards came after the catch, like they're just like

(02:12):
one yard, two yard, three yeard. I had to have
read that wrong. It couldn't possibly be that high. But
one touchdown, one interception for Mason, who played like a
backup yesterday, and I think we did still it in
our heads that this is a guy who comes in
and plays like there's no drop off from starting quarterback
to back up. That wasn't the case yesterday. He couldn't

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hit anybody deep, he was short, he was wide. He
was not accurate on anything downfield. How much of that's
on Roman Wilson, Calvin Austin DK, I don't know, but
I do know he underthrew a couple people. Roman Wilson
played some good defensive back on one to prevent another interception.
Why they got away from running the ball after a

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first half in which the Pittsburgh Steelers absolutely lit it up.
I think it was one hundred and sixty yeards rushing
in the first half, and they just decided, you know what,
we're good now. It's fine. Twenty one points in the
first half for the Steelers and after that, one more
touchdown and that's all they could muster. The end drive

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was an absolute debockle. They had no idea what they
were doing. The penalty that they took for illegal formation,
where Aaron Rodgers is on the sidelines with his hands
on his head, Abby going.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Oh my god, they're illegally.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
Formed one yes, yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
But it wasn't his fault. I mean, he's he gets called,
but those guys don't leave him cover. One of those
two guys has to be a half yard further up
between Uh it was Calvin Austin and I think Gain Well,
I'm not sure, but one of those guys needs to
be a half yard up on the line even with
so that the tackle is covered.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
That didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Illegal formation takes away a run from Mason Rudolph that
put them into Bears territory and in Boss field goal range.
Basically at that point they end up screwing that up
the punt at the end of the game. People are
of mixed emotions on that one. My initial reaction is
when you punt at that point with two minutes left,
he had all three timeouts, so I gets what he's

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thinking there. But because the offense wasn't doing anything, and
then when they did successfully get the ball back after
a three out from Chicago, they didn't do anything that
should have let you know right there, like just go
for it.

Speaker 7 (04:40):
You're not capable of doing much more.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Remember that serial killer kicker we have or that guy, Yeah,
what about him?

Speaker 7 (04:48):
Are you mad we didn't try the sixty five yarder?

Speaker 6 (04:50):
I very much am. I don't know if that makes
me full yins, but I don't.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Care well that one.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I think that it's circumstantial and the wind was definitely
a little bit of a factor there. Apparently before the
game he was hitting them in that direction from fifty
and they were going through by about you know, seven
eight yards sixty five at Soldier Field lot it's a

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big ass I.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
Know, it's a lot We've just seen him from fifty seven,
Like it was nothing.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
I just hate that they made Caleb Williams look like,
you know, vintage Patrick Mahomes. The defense, it is crazy
to me how soft they play. There's a third and five,
they're fifteen yards off the ball. What about the rushing
touchdown that Chicago had?

Speaker 7 (05:45):
When was that?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Oh yeah, in the fourth quarter, the two yard rushed
by manong guy.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
There was two three.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Guys on the down lineman, you know, a lined up
on the defensive line and they had like five line
He walked in.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
He didn't get touched.

Speaker 9 (06:03):
I don't understand what's going on with our Steelers, and
the coordinators stink, and the players aren't coached up right.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
And they still had a chance to win that game.
They still had a chance despite all their foibles. Oh
and they are full of foibles.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
There were so many foibles.

Speaker 10 (06:20):
That's all.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
I kept thinking, what's what's all the foibles?

Speaker 6 (06:24):
I mean, well, you were talking about fourth quarter there
that was all just what like cover three Like.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
Yes, guys, yeah, holes everywhere, And that's what you're talking
about with Caleb Williams. Because I for the first half
of the game, I'm like.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
He's doing to cover three at me. I just want
to point that out.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
I was just saying that.

Speaker 8 (06:47):
Like for first half, I thought, actually, I'm like, Caleb
will isn't that good. You know, I'm sitting on my
couch like full of French fries with like you know.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Oh, he's on my belly.

Speaker 8 (06:58):
And I was like, he's not that good.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
He's not as good as we made him look.

Speaker 11 (07:03):
No.

Speaker 8 (07:04):
But by the second half, like again, every like, he
was just finding holes in the defense everywhere, and I'm like, okay,
never mind.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, it was as frustrating as it could possibly be
yesterday because it portends more.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Bad going forward. It don't get easier.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Well, now we're on the outside looking at yes.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
If the playoffs were today, we wouldn't be in it.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
Well, they're not.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
And it's again this situation for the Steelers where they
find themselves like, well, you could play yourself back to
respectability here by beating the Bears the Ravens twice. Oh,
by the way, maybe Schador Sanders is good enough for
the Browns defense. You know, maybe he's good for one

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or two touchdowns a game and that's enough for you know,
one of the best defenses in the league. While Miles
Garrett is having an amazing year, you might not get
that second win versus the Browns.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
How intolerable, by the way, is Shador about to be?

Speaker 10 (08:03):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (08:03):
How intolerable is Shador already? Did you hear him yesterday?

Speaker 7 (08:07):
This?

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, after the game yesterday?

Speaker 12 (08:09):
This is Shador when it's crazy, it's amazing. You know,
off of one week of practice, you know what I mean?
This one week of practice, so imagine you know what
a full off season looked like. It get dangerous, but
it's just a one week of practice. So I'm just
truly thankful.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
You are truly thankful showing everybody's wrists.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Mason Rudolph is now only one in six in his
last seven starts, and that win was over that crappy
Patriots team last year. When he's with the Titans, he
has ten interceptions in the last seven games, and he

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does not.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
Appear to be as good as I was hoping he
was going to be.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
But I just thought that that was a conservative approach, right, So,
like to me, it looked like familiar Steelers football, and
I wasn't sure if that was an approach that was
taken because of the interception or if that was the
plan the whole time was like, hey, shore passes, keep
it conservative and just keep running.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
But maybe that's just who Mason is.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah, well, I will say it did not bode well
for them yet again to look at the chart and
Mike Tomlin refuses to let his quarterbacks live in the
middle of the field. They had three linebackers out, they
were on total scrub territory. They did not utilize the
middle of the field, despite them not having anybody who

(09:39):
knows what they're doing in the middle of the field
right now.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
And they weren't running behind between the tackles for the.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Entire second half, and he got back to a little
bit in the fourth quarter. I don't understand what's going on.
I'm sick and tired of it. And I do think,
as I've been saying since the Aaron Rodgers saga began
in the preseason, that this year could be Mike Tomlin's
waterloo because of how poorly they mismanaged the preseason and

(10:11):
the alignment of this team. It's not a good team.
They don't have enough players. They don't have a number
two wide receiver that's worth a bleep.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
And Arthur Smith is either not.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Allowed or incapable of opening up this offense in any
way which will allow them to go down the field
and score. They can't execute they, I mean Friarmouth when
they use them, it's great. Why aren't they doing things
offensively to put the defense in a vulnerable situation and

(10:46):
scheme some guys more open than they are right now?
Because it's like nobody's open and Mason's not exactly the
guy that thread the window?

Speaker 8 (10:55):
Am I forgetting? I didn't see a lot of Washington yesterday?
Am I forgetting about?

Speaker 5 (11:00):
He had one like nine yard reception.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
I remember he, you know, did a patented Mount Washington
blow up three guys and nearly get the first down
after being tackled, you know, four yards past the line
of scrimmage. Also that think that tush push they did
was complete bs. I think he made it number one,
but the execution of it was so poor. What's the point. However,

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it did set up the huge Kenneth Cainewell the rundown
to the one yard line because the fake the fake, Yeah,
the fake tush push, But the first one I thought
they got, and I think the refs screwed that up.
I thought the rest were terrible yesterday.

Speaker 10 (11:40):
On top of it.

Speaker 8 (11:41):
I always hate saying that because it sounds like sour grapes.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
But they did suck.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
No, they were bad. No, there was a lot of bad.
I mean we benefited from it. Sometimes the Bears got
some bad calls. But Steelers had three hundred and forty
five yards to the Bears three hundred and twenty eight yesterday,
and once again eight for fourteen on third downs. Not terrible,
not great. Steelers were three for three in the red

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zone when you get in there. At least they were
making something happen. The time of possession yesterday was where
is it?

Speaker 6 (12:17):
We got thirty three?

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Oh yes, they won. They won the time of possession.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
That's what it felt like too.

Speaker 8 (12:23):
It felt like when Mason had the ball it was
taking forever at least at one point.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
What the defense got to.

Speaker 8 (12:31):
Rest for a while, And I'm like, okay, this is great,
that's what we needed.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Defense came up big too, with the sack fumbles in
the end zone and herbig jumps on the ball for
the touchdown after TJ. Watt breaks his brother's sack total
in his career, And you thought at that point, all right, Yeah,
We're gonna scrub these guys. Nope, did not happen. Michael
Lot more on that coming up in a little bit.
Our Budy, Jeff Conko will be joining us. We got

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Tim Benz, got Jerry Dulac, rob all talking about the debacle.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
Here's why it.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Really bums me out because if they win this game somehow,
which they were very capable, well I don't want to
say capable because I just trast him for ten minutes, say,
but they had the potential to win this game, even
though you know they had the ball in their hands
with a chance to win the game.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
If they win, Thanksgiving is just so much more fun.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
And then the level of conversation at the dinner table
is even the most cynical Steelers fan in your family
would be like.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Yeah, but you know Tomlin will screw it up.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Somehow against the Bills on Sunday, and then that'd be
about as much as you got. You'd look back at
the Bears game and go, well, it was close, but
Mason took them down and won the game. And now
it's nothing but pessimism. Everyone's passing around the trimmings on
your Thanksgiving Day dinner and.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
They're like Arthur Smith.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
He thinks Tom Lynn lives in his fears.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
The defense is the most expensive piece and junk anybody's
ever bought.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Pass the Cramberry's.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
So they ruined Thanksgiving. They ruined our Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
So what we got? Bill's Ravens twice and then the.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Lions, Lions, Dolphins and Browns one more time.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
That's the correct response.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Okay, you want to do some news.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
This all right?

Speaker 6 (14:32):
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Speaker 8 (14:37):
Police were needed to disperse a number of fights in
downtown Pittsburg during light up night on Saturday. Pittsburgh Police,
a safety spokesperson, says that large crowds were present throughout
downtown Pittsburgh. Police responded to fights that broke out during
the night. Multiple people were detained, Eighteen non traffic citations
were issued in three arrests were made, with details of

(14:58):
those arrests not immediately made available. Crowds of juveniles gathered
mainly around Wood Street, Forbes Avenue, and Market Square. Several
fights broke out in those areas, with police ordering the
crowds to disperse. Police continue to disperse crowds to deal
with minor altercations for hours after light up night. I
was checking out Pittsburgh Reddit and apparently this happened last

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year as well, where like there's crowds of teenagers that
like do this thing where they just get in a
big herd and they scream and run in just mass
and then run around and it seems like something has happened,
but nothing has happened.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
It's like a plant.

Speaker 8 (15:40):
Like the Steelers, and it just causes chaos. So I
don't know if that's just enough to get people to
be on edge.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
And there the appearance of Melee's there's melee.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
But then somebody was telling a story on Reddit that
I also liked it read it as your guy, you know,
like some people follow the Pittsburgh Scanner and that's just there. Yeah,
you know, sit down with popcorn and being like, my
life is small.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Let me read this.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
I did loved having the scanner on when I was
a kid.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
I have a friend who just listens to the scanner.
She's my age. It's not like you know, an old
woman sitting there, yeah, saying, well the children are out
of the house.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
What am I going to do now?

Speaker 8 (16:27):
Yeah, my age loves the scanner.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
That's true crime, so good.

Speaker 8 (16:32):
But there was somebody who was writing a story about
watching Joker Shecky and watching a couple fight in front
of them and one threw a slurpee.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
On the other.

Speaker 9 (16:42):
I was amazing me nothing more Pittsburgh than that, watching
Jokersky at light up night and seeing a slurping happen. Well,
let me qualify that by slurping.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
What I mean is throwing a slurpee. Joe made his
way over to the Smalls Waltz after that.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
How did he do both?

Speaker 7 (17:03):
I don't know, but I know we didn't save.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
A parking spot for him, and he wasn't thrilled about that,
but we couldn't. It was it was there was yeah,
there was nothing we could do about it.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
How did that go?

Speaker 7 (17:17):
It was great? Truly.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I know that this is like just sounds like something
you say, but best one yet. I mean really, just
the crowd. The crowd response on the first couple of
songs was just overwhelming. It really was. It was just like,
you know, you could feel like visceral, like your your
hair got blown back by the like they were just
way into it. People love that show, the last Waltz does.

(17:42):
It does signify Thanksgiving for a lot of people, and
you know, they have a spiritual connection to those songs.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
So for a lot of people, that's like drunk church, you.

Speaker 13 (17:50):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
It's like church if you drank a little more wine. Yeah,
a little more than that.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
And totally sold out to the gills.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, to the point where there was from my I
was stage left and I'm looking out at the where
you walk into the room, and it was packed out
there because people decided they'd rather watch it out there
to just to kind of get out there. Yeah, and
that the balconies had people have their cell phone lights
going the whole night and stuff.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
It was.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
It was really great And thanks to everybody who came
after that. And we raised a whole bunch of money
for the Greater Pittsburgh Community Food Bank as well. Uh
so we'll talk a little more about that. Mike's gonna
join us now. And I listened to Mike's postgame show
for a little while yesterday and it's someone actually asked
him because I think it's like coach Kauer when his
language got so into the lexicon of the reporters around

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him that like Mike still uses mallet props that Bill
Bill Cower would back in the day, you know, like
where he says like you know the point is mute
and things like that.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
You know, you have to take off your hat and
give it to him.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Some guy called up I think Mike is having that
effect on his listeners and he's like, did did Mason
Rudolph on the play called the Fumble?

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Didn't he fall on his rectum?

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Up, brought to you by Bridgeville Apply. Its down to
one final drive for the Steelers again and it fizzled
yesterday afternoon at Soldier Field or the Bears made a stand.
Either way, the Steelers lost again in Chicago. Here's Mason
Rudolph started out with.

Speaker 15 (20:14):
A couple of nice completions, and credit to them. They
made some nice plays. They play some played some tight
man coverage and you know, heated us up there at
the end and I was able to back the pass away.
So they played a good game, and.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Credit the deference, and the Steelers were positioned to at
least tie the game there for the second consecutive possession,
they had a first intent at there at forty nine
with a minute to play, You're ten yards from a
field goal.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Tepe sixty one first down in one first down, and
you got a field.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Attempt and Rudolph to Calvin Austin on a slant for
two yards. Rudolph to Austin incomplete. Looks like there was
a miscommunication in Rudolf threw it to the boundary, Austin
turned it in.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
Which why don't even catch it?

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well, well, now this is the second down I'm talking about,
the one when he came in he got tackled right away. Yeah,
that was too and then they tried him again.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
On the say don't catch it because it's not worth
the clock running.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, probably not. Third down slanted DK Metcalf game two
more yards, and then on fourth and sixth Gateway High
Schools to Kwan Brisker jumping up on a blitz and
deflecting a ball that probably had no chance to be
completed because there was a small army surrounding DK Metcalf,
because they just weren't going to go to Calvin Austin
or Roman Wilson with the game on the line, because

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when they tried that during the game, it didn't work.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
At least Rum and Wilson played defense when they did
throw the ball to him and didn't let that interception happened.
But where's John Newsmith, Where's Dwayne Washington?

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Where Darnel Darnell's Washington? Where's Daye Washington? Yes, I'll tell
you where Darnount Washington was. He was getting beat twice
by Montes Sweat on one on one blocking assignments. Yeah,
including one that resulted in a sack strip fumble and
more points off the board. Sometimes it still comes down

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to execution. In fact, most times it does, and I'm
in favor of it. They did not execute That included
apparently the offense failing on a first half toush push
that wasn't Here's Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 13 (22:34):
If you can't make it on fourth down and one man,
oftentimes you don't deserve to win.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
I'm not sure they didn't make it there.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
I think they did, But because it's the tush push
and it's a sea of people, they can't officiate it properly.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yeah, it just it was weird. I didn't realize this
until after I got home and washed it again. But
the whistle didn't blow until after Hayward hit the ground.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
All you have to do if you want to know
where Hayward is to follow Washington on that one, because
he's a mountain, yes, and realize that he basically has
Hayward in a baby bjorn in front of him. All right,
So if you look where Washington lands. Washington's landing is

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on top of Hayward beyond the line the game.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah, I thought he got it, and I thought it
was the right decision to go for it there.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
But it's surd But it was a poorly they did
get it. It was slow in developing. Hayward just kind
of stood there and waited to be picked up. It
was very strange kid. You know, he was tired, I know,
but running around the park all day and he needed
yeah right, yeah, yeah, So that didn't work.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
The sack strip fumble cost him points. Uh and they
had a shot at points twice at the end of
the game. If this game had a tombstone, what I
would put on it is, with everything at stake in
the latter stages of the fourth quarter, you lined up wrong,
no question. I mean, guys throw picks, it happens. Guys

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get beat on one on one blocking, it happens. It's
a physical game. Nobody's perfect. Mistakes of execution are part
of football. In fact, they are football. You can't line
up wrong with the game on the line, agreed, And.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
I scrambled far enough on that one to get you in.
If you'll go range first.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Out at the fifties, still have all your timeouts, and
you're north of the two minute warning. You have your
whole playbook at State. You can go get a touchdown there.

Speaker 10 (24:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah, because you still have your timeouts and Kenneth game
one lined up wrong, you lose. You deserve to lose
when you do that.

Speaker 10 (24:46):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I just I don't know how much you can lay
on the coaches for that, because it would seem to
me that that's something that if Aaron Rodgers is on
the sideline screaming they're doing it wrong, the players should
know that doing it wrong.

Speaker 10 (25:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
I think what happened was I think he went to
the wrong side initially because they had that shot of Rogers,
and I believe he said it's the wrong formation. Wrong
formation is what I got from you. I don't know
what he said from So then game O motions to
get on the on the correct side, the right side
of the formation. But he gets next to Austin, he
doesn't get in front of him, and you see Austin

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pointing forward like you're supposed to be up there, and
then he turns around the mason kind of like, wait
a minute, we're ft up here. Yeah, and Charlie said
on a post guy post game, it's ultimately the quarterback's
responsibility to make sure everybody's lined upright before you call
for the snap.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
Yeah, he's got to look out and tell him.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah, you can't run the play when you're in an
illegal formation. You just can't. And that they did and
they lost and they deserved it.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
A dumb procedural rule, but yes.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, very very dumb, just as the guy injured when
the clock is stopped. Ridiculous cause you a time out.
Although I don't know what was going on there. I
don't know if James Pierre was trying to draw something
or he tripped slightly. I think it was Dunez's foot
after the play was over, and then he went down

(26:12):
like he'd been shot, like he was trying to draw
a penalty or something, and they said, no, you're injured.
Timeout's gone.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
They were flagged initially, and they said no flag on
the play after that, and you could see the ref
yell at the other guy he flopped, yes.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Which he did, But was he actually even injured? And
I think those were the same play. I'm pretty sure
was was it okay? I thought that was a different
I thought that was on a punt, critical mistake at
a critical time, and I though thought that was.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
On our punt coverage. I'm not punt reception.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
I don't know what the bench coronic penalty was on
the punt where the Bears were initially at their six
yard line and then they ended up at the forty.
When they called the penalties downfield, they called the Chicago Yeah,
and eventually they said it was on scronic. He's the
gunner and he got called for holding. When does a
gunner hold?

Speaker 4 (27:06):
I have no idea what half of what they were
doing yesterday. Yeah, and it's like this. Wee get week
out with the NFL officiating. By the way, we are
constantly questioning what the hell are these guys doing, and
they're screwing things up left and right. I do think
that the replay culture has left these guys being rewarded
for being indecisive, and so that is their go to

(27:30):
a lot of times.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, I'm sure that's seeping into it.

Speaker 10 (27:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
The pier thing was on the the incompletion okay by
Caleb Williams, which why he's throwing the ball on third down.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
He should have taken a sack.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
I mean absolutely just like he shouldn't have taken a
delayed game penalty on the previous year.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, which kept, by the way, and if they don't
get that, they get the first down.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
Like that five yard backup made them have to punt there.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, because they threw a pass. It ended up four
than one take yard short. A defense had its issues,
but the defense got a three and out and got
the ball back for him. Offense did nothing with it.
Defense got a three and out, got the ball back
for him. Offense did nothing with it at the end
of the game, and the defense also scored seven points.
This one's on the offense and the special teams. More

(28:22):
to me, boy, the special teams in a big way.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Smith small special teams laid a huge egg yesterday.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
I'm not sure about the penalty on Scronick again, I
don't know what he did or didn't do. What was
they called him for holding? Officially, never saw a replay
or anything. No, because CBS's production of that game was
they almost missed a game. We'll play got to do
a little more investigating air find out what the hell happened.
But the thirty three yard punt after the offense field

(28:52):
the first time at clutch times.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
Just can't have that weightman was awful yesterday.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Is the field position component? Yeah, put him behind the
eight ball. Still they got it to the midfield with
a minute left. There was time. And why they didn't
kick a sixty five yard or I can only guess
that usually that stuff is done before the game. He
kicks it both sides and he tells them, Hey, I'm
going this way. I'm good from this far, going this way,
I'm good from this far. Missy had said on a

(29:17):
pregame show that was no wind. I don't know if
that was still the case at the end of the game,
but I don't know what Boswell had told them in
terms of what he could make for Max Stark said,
there was a little bit of win. That's where I
was taking that from. Yeah, but well, it could easily change.
It is Chicago. Yeah, it's just you know, one on
one shots down the field. They had four of them,
and the best they could do is one defensive pass interference.

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Speaker 11 (30:18):
Are you morning, guys?

Speaker 10 (30:21):
How we doing?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
I mean, not great. I'm gonna be honest, not great, Tim,
I don't know either.

Speaker 11 (30:27):
I was really upset about how that ended last night.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Well, okay, so my first question is, let's start with
the punt with two minutes left, He's got all three timeouts.
I can see the logic there. What are your thoughts
on that? At the time, I was like, what's the
point of punting here? But with all three timeouts you
were going to get the ball back more than likely.

Speaker 11 (30:50):
I could see the logic. The problem that I have
with why they did it when they did it, based
on how the game was going that you know you're
going to get the ball back with at most one
time out left, and you've either been incapable of or
unwilling to push the ball down the field deep. So

(31:12):
you're going to have to figure out a way to
get chunk plays when you get the ball back with
that little timeout usage. And they didn't. You know, I
think defenders of what Tomlin did there will point to
it and say, well, it mapped out the way he expected.
He got the ball back, Well, he did, but he
also was unable to get into field goal range because

(31:32):
they were unable to get big chunk plays Throughout the
course of the day. They were nibbling, and they had
a short passing game that was just going to run
out of time before they got within sixty yards.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
He only threw.

Speaker 9 (31:46):
Four balls yesterday that were over ten air yards.

Speaker 11 (31:52):
I think the CBS sports graphic that came up at
one point in the fourth quarter said they were fourteen
of fourteen on pass his under ten are yards and
then one of four passes over ten are yards. I
think they'd turned into one of five because he did
throw another deep one that fell in complete to Roman
Wilson after that graphic showed. But yeah, that was jarring

(32:16):
when they put that one up. I think they put
that up while they were in the red zone right
before the frar Mouth touchdown.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Wouldn't you have thought, given the injuries at linebacker for
the Bears yesterday, they would have stuck with what was
really working for them, which are just pounding the ball
running it off the first half. How many yards are
they having the first half, Mike, like one hundred and
sixty one hundred and twenty five rushing yards in the
first half. All right, they seem to have gotten away
from that, and then once again Mike Tomlin is terrified.
He lives right in his fears. Mike Tomlin's fears are

(32:44):
in the middle of the field, and again just refuse
to attack it. Despite the injuries to the Bears linebacking corps.

Speaker 11 (32:55):
Tried to throw the ball over the middle of the
field too, especially if my tight end is my tight
end is based around three guys who tend to live
in that area. And you know, I guess Washington is
more about throwing into the flats. But as Mike pointed
out in the pregame show, if you don't have a
lot of good linebackers, it's tough to get to the flats.
To cover a tight end, so they could have exploited

(33:16):
that area more as well. They got John a few balls,
but not enough so that this alleged tight end based
offense could be the collective number two wide receiver that
doesn't exist. You know, there's always a yeah but to
every explanation as to why the offense isn't moving enough.
But it's not moving enough. Now. Is twenty eight points

(33:37):
enough to win in Chicago under most circumstances? Yeah, I guess,
But you know, it's not like the defense. I guess
I'll disagree a little bit with Mike on this one.
I didn't think the defense was good enough to win
the game either. I know they did great against the run,
and this is a good running Chicago team, but that's
an offense that was more than happy to live over

(33:59):
the middle. And Mike, there was green all over the
middle of the secondary to the Steelers in that game.
I mean, like those wide receivers had tons of space
to operate in the middle of the field.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
For Chicago, they did, but body of work. The Bears
came in averaging three hundred and seventy three point eight
yards a game. They got three to twenty eight. They
came in averaging twenty five point eight points a game.
They got thirty one, but the defense got them seven.
Offense had two chances to win that game at the end,
which is, Hey, the Steelers aren't superior to a lot

(34:34):
of teams. I think these games are gonna come down
to the fourth quarter. They're gonna come down to the
last possession. They had two shots to get Boswell in
position at least get it in overtime, and they couldn't
do it either time. That's the well, that's the bottom
line for me.

Speaker 11 (34:47):
I will agree with your premise from the last segment,
which was if you're gonna boil it down to one play,
it's Mason Rudolph scrambled for twenty two yards and it
got called back because they couldn't figure out how to
align themselves, and Aaron Rodgers is on the sideline screaming,
you got it wrong, You got it wrong. Now, who
does that ultimately come down to coaches? Because the guys

(35:10):
weren't coached up well enough to line up right. Yep,
gain Well, because he wasn't lined up right.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
He's a veteran, Yeah, and he's got to know.

Speaker 11 (35:17):
That, Yep, Mason, because he's the quarterback, and he didn't
call time out to get him out of it. Yep.
I mean like everybody is at fault for that. There's
stink all over every element of the team for why
that play went the way it did.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Well, I'll tell you another thing that you know we
we pointed it out earlier and it doesn't stand out
as egregious as that illegal formation. But when you do punt,
you decide to punt with two minutes left and you
only get a what was that a.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
Thirty three yard punt?

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Okay, let's get a fifty yard punt there all right
now where it's fourth down and people are a bit
about not going for a sixty four yard field goal.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
Well, now it's a forty seven yard field and.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
You're kicking it and you're going over time.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Probably Corliss Weightman had a terrible day yesterday, and my
biggest fears in camp this year were he's having a
good camp, he's not the better punter, and I think
that might have been the case of Look, Cam Johnson.
The Bill Burr looked like went I've ended up, I
think injuring himself again.

Speaker 11 (36:25):
Yeah, well he didn't injure himself. He got hurt by
circumstance of being out there and they rushed him, and
you know he got the ball away, but was hit.
I mean, like, does that.

Speaker 17 (36:33):
Play happen if he's a Steeler?

Speaker 11 (36:35):
Well, we'll never know, right, I mean it's a big gift.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
But getting hit, yeah, it is fairly you you could.

Speaker 11 (36:44):
Argue that, you know, all around. You know, you blame
whoever you want. I mean, nobody had a worse day
than the CBS cameraman.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
But I mean, like you know, Jesus, the production who
was directing that a muppet.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I mean, he was absolutely ridiculous. The decisions they were making.
They were coming back from commercial way late. When they
did every single kickoff, they used the skycam and brought
it down so low that you had the vantage point
of like a gunner and you couldn't see anything.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
The games well, I think I wonder what's happening there?

Speaker 6 (37:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (37:17):
Yeah, yeah, the game well run. That was a production
direction mistake. My theory on why they were using that
low camera angle and why the camera work was as
shaky as it was, it was so the sun. Yeah,
the sun issue was so bad that they were trying
to get around the shade and they probably couldn't pick

(37:38):
up the ball in the shade, and they were trying
to figure out a different way to show where the
ball was going, and they just they were hunting and
teching and they couldn't.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Figure it out well.

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Rudolph gets a snap, need a first down thrown and
bat it down at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
That's football game.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
The students will lose here at Soldier Field, they will
lose their lead in the AFC Nord and the Bears
will win thirty one to twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
And it almost didn't feel that close at the end,
but it was. I mean, they had a chance to
win that game there. Now, if that ball doesn't get
knocked down at the line of scrimmage, it's not going
to be completed. DK was not open. Mason Rudolph was flailing.
They looked like a very confused, hurry up offense. Oftentimes

(39:06):
that's the case even with a starting quarterback.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
But with Mason back there and.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Wide out too, I just don't I just don't think
pose a threat to any defense. There was never any
danger of the Steelers getting a first down there. Mister
Wednesday's here on a Monday for US Today, Jeff Conkole
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review Steelers thirty one twenty eight loss to the Bears
in Chicago yesterday.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
And they had a chance, They had a chance right
to the very end.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
Is there ever a situation though, when you're in that
third down games, you know, game tying situation on the line,
but you're back, you know, where were they on their
own thirty five or something like that? They had a
long way to go still with forty five seconds left? No,
did you, okay, did you feel like that did you
at any point think we got this, Yeah, because we
have Boswell we needed I didn't even think we could

(39:57):
get there.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
They were at their forty seven yar hard line. They needed,
they needed one more first down, and they have a
Boswell field goal. Now a lot of people are upset
that they didn't try the sixty four yard field goal
or sixty five yard field goal for right here.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (40:12):
I mean, as soon as I saw warming up on
the sidelines, I was like, we're fine.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
I need well.

Speaker 8 (40:18):
Actually, I was just like, we can tie it and
then and then we won't be fine. After we tie it.
At least we could die it.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
I don't think that was a high percentage kick in
any way, shape or form. Boswell lets them know what
he's good from before the game in a dome. Yes,
kick it yesterday on that field, I don't know. I said,
let Boswell line up at wide receiver. He's that clutch.

(40:45):
I would have I would have expected him to get
open somehow. You might have a better opportunity than what
they had out there yesterday. The Steelers receiving is just
not a threat. Everything is. I mean, they take dink
and dunk to a new level. With Arthur Smith's uninvented offense. Somehow,
statistically it looked not so awful for your Pittsburgh Sheelers.

(41:06):
They out rushed him one hundred and eighty six to
ninety nine, and from passing perspective, Caleb Williams had a
pretty decent day two hundred and twenty nine yards to
Mason's one hundred and fifty nine.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
Mason was bad, rural bad. He was not good, and he.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Will He'll be the first person to tell you that
that interception to start out the game, in which they
crack off nine yards on the first play, just.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
Pound the rock.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Their linebackers are all injured.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
Run the ball all day right away. Hey, you got
DK one on one there, Darren.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
You to take a shot, fine, but you cannot underthrow
him there. And Mason makes the critical mistake. He underthrew
Roman Wilson later in the game, and that.

Speaker 9 (41:54):
Was like a wolf mask like this, like whatses shot
right again?

Speaker 4 (42:00):
And Wilson ended up, you know, turning dB and playing
pretty good defense on that one to save another interception.
Just a brutal day for a really boring and incapable
Steelers offense. And I'm telling you right now, Steelers football
hasn't been this unfund in a long time.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
It's just not fun. It's not now. If Aaron Rodgers
plays yesterday, is there a different result.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I'd like to think so. I'd like to think so.
I think you can just chalk it up possibly too.
The backup was in and it was a close game.
It was a one possession game right down to the
last play of the game basically, so all right, that
can shift the balance there. But defensively, I know they
came up with the stripsack touchdown. Mike was pointing this out.

(42:49):
They had two big stops three and out to get
the offense the ball back when they needed it in
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Prior to that though, letting.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Up thirty one points in the first place to this
offense when they were playing the softest zone defense, that
made absolutely no sense to me the entire game. I
just can't give them the credit that he wants to
give them. Also, the defensive line I thought lost the
battle and the trenches yesterday.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
You said it, I think in the last break.

Speaker 9 (43:19):
But like those Bears receivers were open like a seven
to eleven, like they're the sheer radius of no defenders
in their area. It made you think like people slipped
on the line or something like that. D He just
walked right in, just wide open, running down the field
on a vertical boom touchdown.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
That was college ball. It was bad.

Speaker 10 (43:45):
All right.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
Well, I'm more in that coming up for you.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
But but you know, prior to the game, Abby, so
much went on this weekend and uh, I know Jeff
went to the same show I went to.

Speaker 9 (43:56):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Saturday, I did the small As Walltz We'll talk about
that later. But yeah, Friday, I completely forgot. I bought
tickets to Steve Martin and Martin Short at the Benninghem Center,
and I got a text message on Thursday night that
was like, here are your tickets.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Wasn't a surprise Alertn't a surprise alert?

Speaker 7 (44:14):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 9 (44:15):
I spent a lot on tickets and I forgot about
it seven months ago, So.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
There was no like I just won't go. It's like
I was really looking forward to stay at home.

Speaker 10 (44:26):
But I went.

Speaker 9 (44:27):
I loved it, and I'm anxious to hear what you
have to say about it. But you went on Light
Up Night and the same thing happened. My sister bought
us tickets like eight months ago.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
So it's one of.

Speaker 9 (44:40):
Those things that you say, yeah, that sounds awesome, and
then on Thursday she's like, don't forget we have those tickets.
On Saturday, I was like, oh cool, and then my
wife looks at me and she goes, that's.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
On light up Night.

Speaker 10 (44:53):
We can't go.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
We can't go down to Pittsburgh on light up Night?
What are you crazy?

Speaker 9 (44:56):
Like, no self respecting Pittsburgh or wants anything to do
with any Light up Night anything at all. But we
were like, she bought the tickets, like we gotta go,
Like my parents were going. It was just to me
like the six of us, like my sister, her husband,
my parents, and and us.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
So we were like, all right, let's suck it up
and let's go. Now.

Speaker 9 (45:17):
Our neighbors are from Houston. They've never been to Light
Up Night before, so they're like, we want to go
to Light Up Night. And they were like, do you
want to go with us? And we're like, not a chance.
This is months ago, so anyway, not a chance, I'm.

Speaker 10 (45:32):
Away.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Am I going to Light Up Night?

Speaker 9 (45:34):
So long story short, they were supposed to babysit our kids,
but they wanted to go to Light Up Night. So
through some cajoling. We're like, all right, let's go all
down together. You take our kids to Light Up Night.
We're gonna go see the show. We'll converge, we'll meet
back up here after the show's over.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
That type of thing. Now it's very nice. Well, we try.

Speaker 9 (45:54):
They're they're like basically like you know, aunt and uncle
to our kids, like sort of at this point.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
So we trust them.

Speaker 9 (45:59):
But it was harrowing because my wife is My wife
thinks that every.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
Light up Night there's gonna be a dirty bomb.

Speaker 9 (46:06):
Like she just thinks that there's shenanigans, there's gonna be
some kind of international incident. So we leave the kids
like we were walking across the Warhol Bridge. We leave
the kids with our neighbors and we're like, hey, goodbye,
stay safe and everything like that. We go to Cafe
Milano to go eat before the show. Great place. We're

(46:27):
talking to this woman who comes in off the street
like looking like really harried and like we're like oh,
and we're like, how is it out there? She's like, Oh,
it's nuts out there. There's some kind of stabbing that
caused a big stampede.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
There's people all over the place.

Speaker 9 (46:42):
There's people getting pepper sprayed, there's tear gas, and my
wife is just like, aha, okay, everything would be fine.
I can't wait to laugh at Martin Short and Steve
Martin and your kids are now there. They're just in
the city with our neighbors around maybe being arrested.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Are not sure if they're part of the problem, like
none of I don't think they stabbed anybody, but we
don't know they were. They were into it too, but.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
They're being interviewed by Marty Griffin.

Speaker 9 (47:10):
It was like just that alone was like and then
we're texting our neighbors like everything okay, and they're like,
we'll tell you about it later because they know they
don't want to totally ruin them, like we haven't even
walked into the theater yet, like we're about to go
have fun, so they're they're trying to slow roll it
there like everyone's fine, we'll tell you about it later.
But yeah, So I mean that I think what the

(47:31):
deal was, like you guys said in the earlier break like,
it wasn't anything. I don't know there was actually anything
like the big incident. I think that was just like
a prank or whatever. But my older son I was
like what was going on out there? He's like, there's
people swearing and smoking, and there's two people that got
in a fist fight right in front of me.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
And he's ten years old.

Speaker 9 (47:51):
There's like two women like straight up like like getting
into a fist fight right in front of him, you know,
over what over you know, elf on a shelf placement. Like,
I don't know what was going on down there, but
it just made me again resolve to be like that's
for other people, not for us, Like that's not gonna
be something that we do going forward.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
And then a woman threw a slurpee on a man
during Jokership.

Speaker 9 (48:13):
He said, yes, I mean it was so weird because
when we got down there, the sister bridges are, you know,
they're lit up, like there's there's tons, tons of people downtown,
and you just sort of thought, you're like, this is it,
Like this is society congealing back together.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
We can do it.

Speaker 9 (48:31):
This is this is how downtown is supposed to feel
in this time of year. There's economic activity, people smile
and people with their families, people at restaurants, and then
slurpy Gate and teenagers causing a stampede.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Yeah, well, I mean those.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Teenagers are always around Market Square, you know, for the
past few months they have been, and they do kind
of the same stuff all the time. And they it's
like a swarm of mosquitoes. Yeah, like they're over there.

Speaker 9 (48:58):
Now, they're here, and they're it's just like causing bedlam.
And I keep wondering, like where are they from? Like
where where they because in my opinion, nobody lives in
the city, not that age, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
But at any rate, The Light Up Night Shenanigan's nonwithstanding
Steve Martin and Martin Short, I'm sure you loved it
as much as I did.

Speaker 9 (49:21):
So good And it was like it really felt to
me like bridging the gap between a older generation of
show like show biz almost vaudeville comedy, Like it wasn't
quite stand up, like it was a show like there
was all sorts of elements to it, music and dancing
and singing and comedy and and pranks and gags and

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you know, props, everything like that, and it just felt
like this is as complete a comedy show as you
can possibly get.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Yeah, I loved everything about it. I was wondering the
same thing as I looked around and saw that most
people were.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
My age was the youngest there.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Well, yeah, it was a prett the older crowd pretty
but the appreciation for only murders in the building, I
think is what brings a lot of people there. And
then you know, they of course acknowledged that in the
success they have on that show, but those guys are
still pretty fearless for their em Steve Martin's eighty yeah,
and he is ripping on a banjo and I mean

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that is hard to do it.

Speaker 9 (50:24):
Seventy five and he's he's like bulgarian split squatting up
to a grand piano and like break dancing on it practically.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
I mean that's press was.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
In a nude suit and running around and doing the
old Martin short moves that he became so famous for.
I don't know what it was like on Saturday Night,
but they had a video like prelude to the show
that highlighted some of their famous SNL SE, TV and
movie you know, highlights through the years, things they were

(50:54):
known for and some things you might not have seen
that were hilarious. Friday Night was a major le pro
Steve Martin audience. Every one of the Steve Martin clips
was like ah and there were so many of the
Martin Short ones they chose that weren't getting a laugh
at all, and I'm like, this is this isn't justice,
This is not justice at all. Because one of them

(51:16):
was Nathan Thurm, the character he did on SML where
he's the lawyer with the cigarette.

Speaker 10 (51:20):
Oh yeah, why.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
Would I be nervous? Maybe spent some less time on
sixteen minutes And to me, I'm like, that's a character
he had any idea.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
It was one of his old SETV sketches, which a
shower in a box.

Speaker 7 (51:30):
They didn't like. Nobody knew that was like shower the
box is the best, And I.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Kind of was wondering, like, is he gonna get short
hripped when he comes out here? No pun intended, and
he didn't know he was.

Speaker 9 (51:42):
I mean, he got the biggest laughs of the the
overall Conco family. I would say is if you had to,
if we had to pick a Sophie's choice between the
two of them, we were taking Steve Martin. But after
that show we were all walking out and be like, man,
I forgot how good he was Martin Short, Martin shortane
like so we I think we left saying like man,
we forgot how talented he he is and still or

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was and still is because he's eighty.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
There's an element like going to see McCartney the week
before of Kissing the Ring and I just want to
see it. Yeah, my expectations are low, and I've seen
them before do this same tour and they probably did
sixty sixty five percent of the same show they did
last time they were in town. But my expectations are
low other than I just want to go there and

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be around Steve Martin because I love Steve Martin so much,
and same with Martin Short. For me, though, like both
of them and their friendship makes perfect sense to me.
His timing skill, like acumen, comedic sensibilities for that age.
I just don't know if people understand what a unique

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time we are living in.

Speaker 9 (52:49):
My dad's seventy one and he was watching Martin Short
at seventy five do like cartwheels and stuff, and you
could see him just be like, good God, look at
this guy, Like that's incredible.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
How is Paul McCartney on stage doing what he's doing
at his age? How is Steve Martin doing this?

Speaker 5 (53:04):
Still?

Speaker 4 (53:05):
We we haven't let go of people that we made
famous five decades ago because they're still performing at a
high level that most people can't touch.

Speaker 9 (53:18):
Three words Nicaraguan stem cells. Yes exactly. That's like keeping
everybody alive.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
That might be it.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
But to me, somebody had asked me how the show
was on Saturday, and I said, well, I had tears
in my eyes many times that like I'm not like bawling, but.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Like just out of I love reverence.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
I just love someone like you to do three Amigos
songs to me, Like I immediately like, I'm in the
theater with my dad and we're the only two people
in the theater in you know, Cinema World and Eerie
Pa on a Tuesday night during you know, one of
the nights I got to hang out with my dad
and laughing our balls off at it. Yeah, and they're
singing that song. So I'm boom, I'm put back there.

(53:59):
And that's not why I'm crying. I'm just so happy
to see it all. And I described it as a
big bowl of comedy soup where you're like, oh, this
is soup sick.

Speaker 7 (54:08):
This hits the spot where it just warms your whole body.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
That was the comic effect of that show for me
is I felt like a comedy blanket wrapped around me.

Speaker 9 (54:17):
Now, the only thing that did take us out of
the show was because it was a generally elderly population.
The woman behind us was laughing so hard that it
was flaring up her asthma or something like that.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
So as they're doing the like there's a couple of
bits there killing.

Speaker 10 (54:33):
She's ah.

Speaker 9 (54:37):
And if you could just see the germs flying over
our head down into the mezzanine.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
It was that took us out of the show a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
It was interesting too when they showed they did like
a Show and Tell with pictures that all had like joke.
Their jokes were just so funny, like they're just perfect
jokes because they're master craftsmen. But when they showed the
picture on set at only Murders in the building and
they showed Meryl Streep, the place went nuts, And I
was like, this is because everybody is happy that Martin

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Short is dating Meryl Streep.

Speaker 9 (55:10):
And.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Think about this is their favorite celebrity couple at the moment.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
I totally forgot about that.

Speaker 7 (55:17):
But his singing Martin Short is still amazing.

Speaker 13 (55:21):
Well.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
I never knew that he had pipes like that.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
He's always had that man, but you know, Steve had
a little bit of those moves.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
To me, he was like the movie all of me.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Steve Martin should have won an Oscar for for the
physical comedy in that alone was was incredible, and they
both have elements of that, like the physical part of
their comedy.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
That man of famous like.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Steve Martin, I mean, he literally did a bit called
happy feet when he was in his wild and crazy
guy days. But there's there was one part where he's
trying to get Martin short off the stage and he
does like this dance and he's like trying to show
him and I was like, there.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
It is, there's the happy feet. He still can do that.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
And then Martin Shorton is doing the ed grimly thing
all over the stage.

Speaker 7 (56:04):
Collective ages one hundred and fifty nine years old.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
Do you want to know.

Speaker 9 (56:08):
What was also nice is that I feel like I
don't see this in any comedy right now.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
Is there was some serious mugging.

Speaker 9 (56:14):
Oh see, Like Martin short especially was making funny faces
as accents and punctuations to everything that was going on,
and it did add so much. And I sort of
compare that with a lot of stand ups today who don't.
I don't know if they think it's lame or they
think that it's it's trite or hack or whatever like that,
but it actually adds so much to the show. You
just don't, you know, you don't give it the respect

(56:36):
that it deserves.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
I think, but it meets that comedy. It doesn't work
for every kind of comedy.

Speaker 18 (56:41):
You know.

Speaker 7 (56:41):
Here's the other big advantage of going to a show
with all seventy year old plus people they don't know
if they're doing.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
You can really get in and out of there quick.
You can get a drink quick, You can get through
the bathroom quicker than anything.

Speaker 10 (56:55):
True.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
You just get to navigate the theater. It's just like
all rookies where you know, it's just a bunch of
people going where a lot of people in the railings.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Yeah, and you just room fly right past them.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
I love the in and out nature of it all.
And you need a drink. Oh there's a big line.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
Yeah, that's because they.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
Don't know there's no line at the other one.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
Let's go to the other one.

Speaker 7 (57:14):
These people aren't going to the other line.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
They think that other wing is a whole other building.

Speaker 7 (57:19):
They they're not gonna dare go over there.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
So I do love that it's, you know, manipulating the
landscape when it's dotted with people who don't go out
much anymore.

Speaker 9 (57:28):
The ben Atum two, I mean, like coupled with the
fact that you're seeing two legends that it sort of
has a Vaudeville nineteen thirties type action. What a good
setting because when you sit down in the bend and
of the Biome, like you just look around, you're like,
they'll never make another building like this ever again, Like
what we're like, cherished this thing because it's a gem.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
It's a gem.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Yeah, And then you walk outside and teenagers are stabbing
one another.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
Slurpees are getting thrown. My kids were in the melee
at some point. Imagine Bob Marley's last concert was in
that place. Whoa really, Oh yeah, that's true. It's the
Stanley Theater.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Yeah, Bob Marley's last ever concert was in that room.
And you look around and it's so ornate and beautiful,
and it's hard to remember that for a long time
it just was. It was always nice, but it got dilapidated,
and then they put a bunch of money. The Cultural
Trust really redid a lot of the theater down to Hineshall.

Speaker 7 (58:23):
Had a major overhaul. The ben and have had a
major overhaul.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
I think the Biome even had a major overha Bob
Marley concerts there.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
It seems surprising, dude.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
His last ever show was at the Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh,
which was the Benderdem I think the I think.

Speaker 9 (58:36):
Then Incubus at one point played the ben Atum and
like the amount of pot smoke in the ben Atum
apparently over the years is hilarious. The restoration probably just
included scraping the plaster for hash oil that you just
scrape off.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
I remember when Billy Gardell played at the ben and
he drove the Turner's tea car out onto the stage.

Speaker 9 (58:54):
All right, but that's how big the load in is.
Drive a car right onto the stage.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Uh So, while I'm sorry that you had the fear
of that, all parents must dread, I don't have my
kids with me and they are in the middle of
a melee Pracus. Yeah, but glad you had a good
time to the show because on a couple of comedy legends.

Speaker 9 (59:15):
But Abby, I don't know anything that's happening anymore. I
buy tickets and I forget, how did you not put.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
That in your phone?

Speaker 8 (59:21):
But your phone should be giving you like the automatic
like you bought tickets to this thing, doesn't it? It's
your question, Like I'd like to put this in your
calendar for you, because you're an idiot, you.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
Know what it is?

Speaker 4 (59:31):
The Cultural District is trying to get around scalping, and
they don't send you the same updates that you usually get.
And they didn't even make the tickets available on the
link they sent me the night before until to fifteen
on Friday, so I couldn't have sold them if I

(59:51):
wanted to.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
Oh no, that's true.

Speaker 8 (59:53):
Even a lot of folks that would win tickets from
us here, they will not get the tickets until like
twenty four to forty eight hours prior to the show.

Speaker 9 (01:00:02):
I think the other problem is that these shows get
announced like ten months beforehand because they want your mind.
I saw Daniel Tosh is coming. I was like, I'd
love to see Daniel Tosh. I looked at it and
it's like August twelfth. I'm like, you mean next August
he's coming?

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Like what then they get to hold your money yep, yeah,
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Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
I didn't think Mason was good. If he's healthy, well, yeah,
that's what I mean. I didn't think Mason was bad,
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Steelers have won and lost from Mike Tomlins standing space
on the sideline, it was a matter of a handful
place and the Steelers didn't make enough of those.

Speaker 13 (01:02:19):
Like I just told the team, and it's tight when
it's good on good, particularly when you're in a hostile environment.
Any number of plays could have changed the outcome of
the game. And that's why we just got to live
every dawn singularly.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Now, a lot of people are going to say that's
word salad coach speak. Whatever, but it's actually spot on.
And one of the plays that he's referencing. I said
last hour, if you had a tombstone for this game,
the epithet would be they lined up wrong. Yeah, with
a couple of minutes to go and everything at stake.
Maybe the second entry on the tombstone would be second

(01:02:54):
and twelve from the Bears thirty seven. They've just fallen
behind twenty four to twenty one. One h Mason Rudolph
drops back to pass, winds up getting sacked, fumbles and
the Bears recover, take the ball down the field and score.
Now they're up ten, and it's a different game. Here's
Rudolph on what went wrong on second and twelve.

Speaker 15 (01:03:14):
They did a good job of, you know, peeling, peeling
off with the left tackle to go and rob that
checkdown which I was about to throw, and I saw
that and kind of recocked it and that's when that's
when I got hit. So they covered the play well
and I just got to do a better job.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Now he's accurate in his description there. They did peel
a defensive tackle and went the guy went instead of
rushing and covered greg Or Jalen Warren think Greg Warren
out of the backfield. Andrew Billings is six foot one,
three hundred and forty pounds. Jalen Warren is maybe the Steelers'
best offensive player. Okay, they peeled off and covered him.

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Can you running back not be to six to one three?
Is that not an attractive matchup? Can you not throw
it to him anyway? Instead of getting sacked and fumbling
and losing a scoring opportunity where you could at least
kick a field goal and tie the game. And by
the way, that was a three man rush against a
six man protection and they lost the ball. Well, Darnell Washington, Yeah,

(01:04:16):
but I mean, throw the checkout anyway. It's a defensive tackle.
I'm with the daring you to do it, like I'm
with you. Just because they do that doesn't mean you
can't throw it anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
But there's an alarming amount of a lack of football
awareness around the league. In situational football, things don't arise
on in these players' heads. When we were kids, every
sport we played, I felt like coaches drilled scenarios into
your head. Baseball, football, everything They told you constantly be
mindful of this that yether. I mean, Caleb Williams did

(01:04:48):
five things yesterday that were completely stupid and kept the
Steelers in the game. Well, and you watched it more
well beyond how you were coached.

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
Maybe it wasn't so positionally focused youth.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Watching every game that was on television and re every
article you could read and playing along. Yeah, why did
they do this? I would have done that. You learned
it yourself to right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Yeah, I mean that as we're out of timeouths and
he throws a two yard you know, slant to gain well,
who's got three guys on him?

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
If I'm gain well, I just knock it down, you know, like.

Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
This isn't going I want this, don't give me this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
And this isn't going anywhere, and it's just gonna bleed clock.
I'm pulling you away from your point. No, that's I
mean that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
That's one of a handful of plays that you can't
allow that to happen. You can't line up incorrectly when
the game's online. You can't turn the ball over. We
talked about turnovers coming into this game. Hey, Chicago's ability
to generate turnovers was real. They were the best team
in the league at it. You had to stay away
from that. That's why that's why they tried to stay

(01:05:49):
away from the middle of the field as much as
they did, because that's where the turnovers are. But to me,
the two fourth downs that they didn't make, the tush
push and the one at the end of the game,
those are also turnovers. Because you're turning the ball over
on downs, you are not scoring points. And the thing
about that's where the turnovers are.

Speaker 9 (01:06:09):
You do have to if you're saying, well, you got
to take a risk of throw it downfield when you
have single covers, well you got to take a risk
of throat in the middle of the field when they're
on their fourth, fifth, and sixth linebackers.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Different risk. And and attacking the flat is attacking the linebackers.
Running the ball is attacking the linebackers.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Well, look, you know, and I know you want to
absolve the defense. Uhree it. But I'm just saying offense
was good for twenty one of the twenty eight points yesterday.
Uh Kyle Dugger comes up with an interception at the
end of that first half, they don't get three points
there dropped it a sudden different game turnovers.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
There was a guy made an unbelievable pick on that
second snap of the game. I mean, it's under thrown,
but it was a great athletic play, and Dougger dropped
one that they threw right to him. This is how
you lose. Now are they Are they a horrible team? No,
but they're not a good enough to win team in
the type situations that Tomlin identified, And unfortunately in the NFL,

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damn near all the games come down to the type situations.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
I still I would love to know how much of
Arthur Smith's offense is designed to be as conservative as
it looks versus what the quarterbacks are situation situation only
deciding on.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
It. Looked to me a lot of the like this
because guys are not open well, but one on one
is open. I understand that. I'm not saying he shouldn't
have thrown that one on second down.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
I wish we would have just been like, no matter
what happens, we're pounding the rock here.

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
But okay, I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
DK's got a single coverage.

Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
You got to go to him.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
You cannot underthrow that ball.

Speaker 9 (01:07:51):
And also DK, in terms of contested catches, he's no
George Pickens and.

Speaker 7 (01:07:58):
He's got to make a better play on that ball.
They are and not just assume that guy's going out
of bounds.

Speaker 9 (01:08:03):
We were just I was texting with some of my
friends and we were like, despite being the physical specimen
which he is, DK Metcalf, he's maybe one of the
least physical receivers that we've seen in a while.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
I meantive what he could do, Like it seems it
seems like that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
Agreed they hard to tackle.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Fighting for the ball is not his strength. It's going
to have to be. And the problem is I think
they're they're close, but they're not good enough. But we're
deep enough in the season. Now do you see this
stuff getting cleaned up? No, that's the point is this
is who they are. I think they've shown us who
they are. Yeah, which is they'll have a chance to win,

(01:08:46):
but it's fifty to fifty.

Speaker 9 (01:08:48):
It's depending on if TJ can get a stripsack in
the end zone. It really, I mean basically, that's what
every game seems to have been boiled down to.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
But that is there. That is what they depend on.
They depend on those making huge place. The Bears are
all about turnovers. Maybe even more reason to not throw
that ball on second down there is to put yourself
in a vulnerable position right from the game.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
Well, I just think when you get one on one,
you gotta take it. Hit one or two of those.
It changes the way they call the game. And if
you just run every down, they're going to all come
up and you're gonna be running into a brick wall.
You have to you have to make them think you
at least might do that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
You also have to know that that's their tallest dB
on DK Metcalf right there.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
Well, it's your guy. He's your guy.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
Say don't throw it. I'm saying you can't underthrow that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
And you asked about Rogers at the start of this segment.
Would it have been different A bet on the last play,
which was batted down the fourth and sixth Metcalf, there
was a small army around him. The far hash safety
was cheating toward Metcalf at the snap. They had austin
one on one going down the sideline. I bet Rodgers
would have taken a deep shot there, all right, and

(01:09:58):
maybe he scores, maybe he gets to the one yard line.
That play was doomed to fail, and Rudolph tried it
anyway because he was gonna give DK an opportunity to
make a play. I get what he was thinking. They
hadn't that success on the deep stuff. But you got
to hit one or two of those a game. If
you don't, you're gonna lose.

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Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
So the decision to play Mason Rudolph was apparently made Saturday, correct.

Speaker 17 (01:12:25):
Yes, Tomlin said he told him on Saturday, and Mason
said after the game he was told Saturday.

Speaker 10 (01:12:31):
That is correct.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
So do you have any idea of whether or not
that will make Aaron Rodgers available for the Bills game
this coming Sunday?

Speaker 17 (01:12:42):
Well, and Mike Tomlin said after the game that he's
anticipating Rogers playing this week. You know, there was a
medical question this time. They were reluctant to have him play,
and typically typically when that happens, that the Tomlin goes
along with whatever the medical staff and training staff feel. Obviously,

(01:13:06):
Aaron Rodgers said he wanted to play, and he could
have played in some form because we saw him practicing
during the week, but they just you know, they didn't
want to take Look, I don't know how that fracture.
I don't know if it's a thin fracture or a
significant fracture, you know, but they were concerned that, you know,
if he re injured that then he's going to be

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out even longer. And also, you know we heard him
say and m Thomin say during the week there was
a safety factor there as well. Kenny protect himself when
he falls, you know, you don't want to brace himself.
That's how he got hurt really to begin with. So
they expect him to be to play against the Bills.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
So we'll say, why do you think you know, they
struggled in the second half coming out in the third quarter,
why did they abandon the run at that point?

Speaker 17 (01:13:52):
Well, you know, it still ran for a lot of yards,
ran or they ran for one hundred and eighty six yards.
But we've seen that happen couple times here in the
last the three or four games, where they've been running
the ball successfully and then in the second half they
kind of get away from it. You know, they they
you know, they were leading at the time, but you know,

(01:14:15):
I didn't get the sense that they were abandoning it
a ton, because again, they were having success. But I
think the bigger problem is their lack of attackability, if
that's a good word they I mean, they just pick
and peck their way down the field. No, I know
that's Mason Ruloph but that doesn't mean, you know, Mason

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likes to attack the middle of the field, you know,
as much, if probably more so than Aaron Rodgers. And
you know, their longest pass was a twenty one yarder,
which was the second completion of the game. To ben'skronic.
They just don't go down the field any long run,
excuse me, any long pass reception they have for the

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most part is a five eight yard pass, maybe a
ten yard pass where the guy runs ten, fifteen, twenty
more yards. And that was so evident when they needed
to score twice, when they're just methodically going down the field. Now, look,
they still had a chance to win the game, but
they were just picking and packing their way down the

(01:15:19):
field because they just don't attack with fifteen you know passes,
you know, air air yards of fifteen or twenty yards
and try to get chunks. And it's a parent and
it's been a parent for a couple of years, but
more than a couple of years since Ben and I
think you know, early in the year they had a
few chunk pass plays, but all in all those passes,

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you know, aside from DK metcalf and even half of
his he has eight catches of over twenty or more yards,
And as we saw in Minnesota and other places, what
do we see eight yard slams and he just takes
off and goes twenty thirty yards?

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
So that to me is Dublin. Every time we talk
about DK remember that one time.

Speaker 7 (01:16:03):
Driving me crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
What about Jerry? What about defensively? Why such soft zone
coverage when you're constantly getting beat by it?

Speaker 17 (01:16:13):
Yeah, and we saw them, you know, And and to
your point, Randall, consistently those slams in the middle of
the field, whether it was to Roman Dedunze or you know,
DJ Moore, A lot of those times. I will say this,
Caleb Williams looked like Caleb Williams of twenty twenty four
in the first half and the second half. Came out throwing,

(01:16:33):
and a lot of it was because of those quick slants.
Throwing quicker with more confidence and more accuracies. Not the
most accurate quarterback in.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
The lime, Oh no, he kept the Steelers in the
game with a lot of bad throws.

Speaker 17 (01:16:44):
Yeah, I he did. I agree, I remarked, I couldn't
believe how inaccurate he was. But as poorly as he
wasn't a first half, he was at least better in
the second half, and he was getting him on those
on those crossing patterns and slants over the middle.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
Here, what's the temperature. They're six and five, they're out
of first place. The losses are mounting. What kind of
sense of Annie did you get a post game?

Speaker 17 (01:17:12):
Yeah, that one, I think, Mike, that one hurt a
little more, a little more hushed in.

Speaker 19 (01:17:16):
The locker room. And I don't know if that's a
byproduct of being on the road or not. I don't
really think so, but you know, I noticed that, and
you know, I you know, they're not the type of
team to panic, but you know that's that's You're right.

Speaker 17 (01:17:30):
The losses are mounting. And that's four in the last
six games. They're giving up a lot of points steal
every game. That's five times they've given up thirty or more.
They haven't done that since twenty and thirteen, I believe.
And they still have what six more games to go,
so good chance they'll they'll pass that mark. And while

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the defense, you know, the defense did a decent job
against the run ninety nine yars. It's not shutting them down,
but that was the NFC's top running attack. Held him
till fifty sixty yards below their per game average. So
I thought they did a decent job against the run.
I don't think the run hurt him, but I think,
you know, Caleb Williams didn't there what he had two

(01:18:13):
hundred and thirty some yards, three touchdowns. He just continually
kept hurting him over the middle, and that was the.

Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
Bigger issue next week facing the Bills.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Any chance Sante Samuel will be up to speed, you
might see him in the secondary. Seems like you're always
losing somebody in the secondary mid game, and then if
you are having any success, well that all goes by
the wayside.

Speaker 17 (01:18:36):
You know, Randa all have to check to see where
his progress is. I will tell you that when they
signed him, they knew he was weeks away from playing
because he hadn't played in so long, and they wanted
to make sure.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Okay, that's new to me. He was weeks away from
playing when they signed him.

Speaker 17 (01:18:51):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (01:18:52):
I mean, I knew he was coming off with surgery.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
He hadn't played any year.

Speaker 17 (01:18:56):
Yeah, yes, over a year, over a year of last season. Yeah,
so they want to make sure that he's up to
some type of speed, not with what they do, but
with just being able to play football.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
The bigger one to me is the bigger one to
me is scantling. Uh watching nineteen and ten if this
guy can't run a go route down the sideline and
compliment to metcalfin what's he doing here? Yeah, I mean,
I don't want to hear any more about I don't
want to hear any more about how well Roman Wilson's practicing.
The guy is invisible. Other than the one nice play

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he made to stop an interception.

Speaker 17 (01:19:34):
I think, Yeah, something DK Metcalf didn't do on that
first interception of the game. If you're not going to
get that fifty to fifty ball, then you and when
the other guy's in front of you, you make sure
he doesn't catch it. And that's what he didn't do
to start the game. Uh you know, you know, h
Mason Rudolph throws the pick. But that to me, that's
on DK Metcalf to break that up and he didn't
do that.

Speaker 11 (01:19:54):
Mike.

Speaker 17 (01:19:54):
I will say this, The bigger issue I think is
the lack of productivity from Calvin Austin. If you back
the last three or four games, Roman Wilson has been
a lot more productive than him. He actually has a
couple of touchdowns, which you can't say about any of
the other wide receivers on.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
This team, and so garbage town.

Speaker 17 (01:20:11):
I'm here, I'm not gonna say I don't care. I'm
not going to sit here and disc roman Wilson when
there are other guys who were even uh you know,
who were even less productive. And you could start with
John oh Smith too. See where is this guy who's
ten million or twelve million a year, who caught eighty
five balls last year? Where is this guy in their
attack nowhere?

Speaker 7 (01:20:31):
Jerry safe Travels. Are you flying out of Midway or O'Hare?

Speaker 17 (01:20:35):
No, I'm out of O'Hair. I have get back around one.
I'm just I'm gonna get myself time to get to O'Hare.
But it doesn't seem to be the traffics too bad.

Speaker 9 (01:20:43):
Oh yeah, stop at front Front Terror grill there, and
they had a great restaurant.

Speaker 17 (01:20:47):
I had a little loom or not.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
These people not bad.

Speaker 17 (01:20:52):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:20:52):
I would have scured you the nuts on Clark if
you were in Midway.

Speaker 19 (01:20:55):
But anyways, well, you know, Jerry, I've actually I've actually
been there before, but I actually had a little bit
little their popcorn.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Yeah, it's so delicious. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Well, at any rate, save travel sext for your time
this morning, Jared do you Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:21:09):
Thanks, boys start We'll.

Speaker 10 (01:21:10):
See it man.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
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Speaker 10 (01:21:56):
TJ what gets it? Puts it down?

Speaker 20 (01:21:58):
The ball is loose and the sailors covered in the
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on top of the fuckle caused by TJ.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Watt for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 9 (01:22:10):
Touchdown that was just at the start of the second
quarter and put the Steelers up fourteen to seven, and
right about that you're.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
Thinking, Ah, these guys suck.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
We're gonna roll the Bears low problem alas that would
not be.

Speaker 9 (01:22:26):
Oh, it is we the ones who sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
We are the suckers. The Steelers lose thirty eight yesterday.
More than that, of course, coming up, Rob came with
a power hour of Steeler talk and mister Wednesday on
a Monday, Jeff Conkole hanging out.

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
With us with some postgame talk.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
I do want to take one second, Abby, you think
everybody that sold out mister small Steeter on Saturday Night
for this year Small's Waltz sold out?

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
He was, dude, it was heard it was the best ever.

Speaker 7 (01:22:55):
Yeah, it really was great. The performers were amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
The Tribune review did a really nice write of it
and highlighted some of the outstanding performances of the night
because so many people killed it.

Speaker 7 (01:23:08):
And it's like not a short show. I mean it's
like two hours.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
And forty five minutes, so you know, but the energy
in the crowd, like I remember on the last song
looking at the back of the room and it was
still packed all the way to the back, you know,
And it's not exactly always like a bunch of twenty one,
you know, twenty one year olds at that show. So
people hung in there and really had a great time.
The energy from the crowd was amazing. There's too many
performances to highlight because they were all great. And I

(01:23:35):
do want to think though, Danny Reckenwall from you know,
he did he brought his favorite band out to do
the theme from the last Waltz, which is you know,
the actual waltz, and we'd had Buffalo Rose do that
the last couple of years and they're just Buffalo rosesn't
perfect and just you know, such pros and amazing, and
their interpretation of it was always beautiful. But I knew

(01:23:56):
Danny was gonna be a little more avant guard and
you know, first of all, the wardrobe aloone, I mean
him and his crew really brought it. But he rearranged
it a little bit, and he utilized our friend Erica
from Working Breed and she played the saw ah like

(01:24:21):
and did it perfect, and the crowd just ate it up,
and you know, it was like intertwined with violin and
Abby Gross playing sax on it and Dany of course
playing in peckled bowl guitar so like that set the
tone and also, like I said, their wardrobe was fantastic
and then you know, the Ramble Band went out there
and just destroyed. So thanks to everybody who showed up.
The after party was a lot of fun too. Joe

(01:24:43):
Barnick was there working his way through his gout.

Speaker 9 (01:24:46):
He was drinking, trying to neutralize all that uric acid
and Michelobaltraus exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:24:53):
He draang his way through the gout admirably.

Speaker 6 (01:24:55):
But just Pizza Box by chance.

Speaker 13 (01:25:00):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Jokasheki seventy seven, he did light Up Night and then
drove out to mister Small's, jumped on stage and destroyed
the place in two songs doing Muddy Waters Mannish Boy
and further on up the road and just brought the
house down, you know. Going back to the earlier conversation
we had about like how people who are still you know,
living killing it in the in their creative endeavors at

(01:25:23):
an age that previously they would have hung up their
cleats a long time ago.

Speaker 9 (01:25:28):
On Sunday for you, is there like a dopamine drop off?
Are you just like basking in the just the relief
that it went great or like, are you kind of
sad that it's over. Like what's your feeling on Sunday
morning when.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
You always thought it's over, but because you have to,
I had to wear two hats. So it's like organizer
and then performing are two different like, so it's probably relief.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
That, dear God, I got out of that shit.

Speaker 9 (01:25:53):
Like everything went well as a producer of the show,
it went great. As a performer, You're like, I wish
I could do that a couple more times.

Speaker 7 (01:25:59):
Yeah, no, totally.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Yeah, I mean playing was so much fun, but the
headaches of organizing those things.

Speaker 7 (01:26:05):
I'm just glad to be done with that.

Speaker 9 (01:26:07):
You don't want to be getting calls about there's there's
no overflow parking.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
No, that's what was happening. I need parking. Can you
get me parking. I'm not going to be there for
sound check? Can we change that part of the song.
Can you let everybody know my friend can't get in.

Speaker 9 (01:26:20):
I need to get them like all of that glasses
going all the way up to showtime, which is you know,
that's part of the fun though, is like the juice
of like all of that, and like the real fun
parts are the hang before and the hang after because
mister Smalls, is that like, you know, extensive green room
up there abbey, you know that, And there's like thirty
musicians up there, and everyone's kind of prepping in their

(01:26:41):
own way, and they're like some people are literally that,
some people are doing shots, some people are oiling their saws,
rosining up their bow, and other people are just playing
their parts over and over, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
And then I had realized that one part like an
hour before the show. I'm like, man, I didn't drill
that one part. I'm like, I gotta go down to
do it. And then I had like, I'm like my
keyboards on the stage. I'm like, so I like pulled
the board off to the side and I had to
drink because there was no other piano. And I did
just go drill this one part a whole bunch of times.
So I'm like, I forgot to practice it, and I
know I needed to, but I was running around doing
all the other stuff. But again, the crowd, like I

(01:27:20):
went down to get a coffee at six o'clock show
started to day.

Speaker 5 (01:27:24):
Doors were at six.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
There was a crowd of people waiting to go in
two hours before Wow, and I like walked into the
coffee shop down and then they're.

Speaker 7 (01:27:31):
Like, yoh man, what's up?

Speaker 10 (01:27:32):
Were read it?

Speaker 12 (01:27:33):
Go?

Speaker 10 (01:27:33):
Was it open?

Speaker 9 (01:27:33):
And I'm like, you guys are here two hours early.
That's how much people love this show. It's a really
it's a real spiritual thing for a lot of people.
I mean, like I described it earlier to Abby, it's
like church with more drinking, even more drinking. Wow, even
more drink.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Yeah, people really love those songs and to see it
on their faces while you're playing, it's such a joy.

Speaker 7 (01:27:55):
And there was like a handicap section. It's like worked off.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
Da section on the side.

Speaker 9 (01:28:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:28:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
The people there I kept looking over at and they
are like singing every song, sing like it was awesome,
Like people really love it. And I thought that that
would be the last one we've done, because we did.
That's the fifth one I think we did, maybe the
fourth one we did. Uh and then Uh, this guy
Steve comes up to me afterwards in the after party.

(01:28:23):
Is cool because all the anybody who wants to come
and hang with the band comes upstairs. So there's a
bunch of people who were just up there, yeah, talking
to all the musicians, and this dude, Steve comes up
to me. He's like, you know, next year is the
fiftieth anniversary, and I'm like, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
Every year, this is probably the last one.

Speaker 6 (01:28:40):
The suspense has never killed me less.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
I'm always like, oh.

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
The last one.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
It's probably the last one.

Speaker 6 (01:28:46):
Yeah, I know, Oh wow.

Speaker 9 (01:28:47):
Is it? See that would be such a bummer to
me because like, immediately you're you're basking in the glory
of a job well done, and immediately you're thinking, what's
parking gonna be like for next year? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Yeah, a lot of that, but mostly it was just
it's all an honor to be a part of it,
especially with all those badass musicians. There's so many great,
great players in town. And thanks to mister Smalls who
always makes us feel so welcome, and thanks to all
the people who donated so generous lead to the Greater
Pittsburgh Community Food Bank, who was the beneficiary of the festivities,

(01:29:19):
a portion of the proceeds going to them in this
time of need heading into the holiday season.

Speaker 9 (01:29:25):
And it was a great way to kick off Thanksgiving,
you know, because as someone pointed out on Friday Friday
at three o'clock, that's Thanksgiving has started.

Speaker 7 (01:29:36):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (01:29:37):
You know, I've started to laugh because you know, as
a member of the you know, corporate working world. Like
it used to be that the Monday or Tuesday before
Thanksgiving everyone would phone it in until New Year's right,
and now it's I've noticed that it basically starts at Halloween.
Now the day after Halloween, no one cares for two

(01:29:57):
months until January, is what.

Speaker 5 (01:29:59):
I I noticed. It's kind of true.

Speaker 9 (01:30:01):
We've kind of got to that point where we're busting
our ass so much that we're just we can't give
any more as yeah, right, like the holidays are here.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
Fine, these kit cats took it out of me. I'll
see you next year. When decorations go up on lawns,
that's when the start of the not malaise, but the
wind down begins. A mental wine down.

Speaker 9 (01:30:25):
I threw my it was a nice day outside after
the Steelers loss, I probably, like many Pittsburgh's, took advantage
of the fifty five degree whether and angrily put up
my Christmas decorations. But I refuse to plug them in.
They're up there, ready to go. We're not plugging them
in until Thursday night.

Speaker 6 (01:30:42):
I am decorated and plugged in and.

Speaker 9 (01:30:44):
Plugged in, all plugged in, I see all right, guys,
I got a problem because my neighbors on either side
of me love them both to death, but they're really
making me look bad right now.

Speaker 5 (01:30:56):
Ah, they went out, They went all full tilt.

Speaker 7 (01:30:59):
Both of them. Boy, both of them went balls out.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Well because traditionally I have never been here because I'm
chasing my family around the country because you know, we're
six kids in six cities. And then you know, my
mom is still uping Earie and it's like, by the
time we're done with the show and then I leave
town for ten days or whatever, it's like, what am
I gonna Who's gonna turn the lights on and off? Anyways,

(01:31:24):
I'm i gonna go get a timer. So I would
rational rationalize I don't need to do it. But I
gotta tell you I am not. Even the Joneses are
hard to keep up with. They've got some good stuff
going on.

Speaker 9 (01:31:36):
I know what you should do to make them feel bad.
Just put an austere wooden manger in the front yard,
give them a little give them a little.

Speaker 7 (01:31:47):
Clap spirit spiritually shame there.

Speaker 5 (01:31:51):
Yeah, like I don't need all this stuff. Okay, I
know the true meaning.

Speaker 6 (01:31:55):
Oh that's a great exactly. The more quaint the better.
And then also you get like a.

Speaker 8 (01:32:01):
Little solar light that that like lights it on its own,
so it all depends on the sunlight so you don't
have to do a timer or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
And then do I put a Myron coat baby in
there instead of joy and double YOI get the.

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
South Park Bison and throw that in there too.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
My Another one of our neighbors pointed out how poorly
I am faring right now by taking a video. She's like, oh,
look at this lovely beautiful decorations. Oh nothing, just dark.
And then oh, look at this another beautiful one. Hmmm,

(01:32:45):
I guess you're sticking up this holiday. I'm like, this
is unfair. First of all, I also submit it's early.

Speaker 6 (01:32:51):
Oh it's definitely early.

Speaker 9 (01:32:53):
Early tea, but not but we're I mean, by the
end of this week. You know it's not gonna be
early anymore. You got to get them up.

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:33:02):
I like Jeff's idea.

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
What if I stole theirs and just put it on mine.

Speaker 9 (01:33:06):
Get some mirrors and see if you can just reflect
their lights onto yours.

Speaker 21 (01:33:10):
That would be nice, or just get there is one
there's a house that's right next to where that old
right Aide used to be on Banksville and mcmonagall there,
which makes me laugh so hard because they have a
tiny yard and is it but they are so gung
ho for Christmas every year.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
They love it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
But they don't have a lot of space and they
use every inch of the space for huge blow ups.
So there's like that they build vertically.

Speaker 9 (01:33:37):
Yes, it's like it's like Oaklands, like they're they're hemmed
in geographically, so they need to build skyscraper.

Speaker 11 (01:33:42):
Like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
I have so much admiration for their love of the
season that they it looks like when you go to
buy Christmas trees, you know, and they're all like piled together.
It's like that, except blow ups and they're all like
piled up on top of each other.

Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
See, we we nixed the blow ups this year. We've
always had it just a couple, just a couple. But
you know, the last couple of winters have been rainy
and muddy, and these things end up looking like old
like sacks of potatoes just sitting in your yard. And
Santa's got like, you know, like just he looks like
he went to a tractor pull or something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
Like it just does not look very festive.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
Yeah, I've never been into how many? Did I know
you have one? Okay, well you caved.

Speaker 8 (01:34:23):
I thought you were the anti huge, anti inflatable. Uh no,
My my daughter was pushing for one for Halloween, and
I'm like, you know what, give me Halloween for God's sake,
like just one thing that I can have, but no Christmas.
I caved because last year I just lost it and

(01:34:44):
I said, fine to the joy.

Speaker 6 (01:34:46):
But how this is.

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
Why it works.

Speaker 9 (01:34:50):
Fine, don't ever give into that feeling that joy that's
always a path to destruction.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:34:56):
It actually works selfishly because of where the paw our
outlets are located on the side of the house and
where I have to kind of like just logistically put
the balance of the lights where the blow up goes
fills the negative space and it is a cat wearing

(01:35:16):
a Santa hat. All right, So it's fine. But during
the day, Jeff looks like trash. It's always like trash.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Well that has to be the next like advancement in
the design of these lawn blow ups is that there
when it collapse, it goes into a box that like
what that.

Speaker 8 (01:35:35):
Was my mom's million dollar idea last year, she said,
they should.

Speaker 7 (01:35:39):
All come vacum.

Speaker 8 (01:35:43):
But the box looks like a present like, so that's
part of the decoration. During the day, like goes and
then it goes into like a little Christmas present. So
during the day it looks like you just have presence
on your lawn and it's adorable.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
And I was like, Mom, what the hell?

Speaker 10 (01:35:59):
Why like that?

Speaker 9 (01:36:00):
It sounds like you just didn't want to be on
the hook for getting the patent the time time.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
She's got stuff to do.

Speaker 9 (01:36:06):
He's not gonna hire the time for the engineer to
come up with that one I can get I can't get.

Speaker 7 (01:36:10):
You on shark tank. I just can't design it for you.

Speaker 6 (01:36:13):
I don't have time.

Speaker 7 (01:36:15):
We have a shark tank connection. We could make it happen.

Speaker 10 (01:36:17):
Yeah we do.

Speaker 7 (01:36:19):
Oh well, anyways, someone's going to steal it now that
we put it out there.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
I know that was the other part of the problem.
It's like, well, no, I've talked about it.

Speaker 7 (01:36:28):
Uh, do you get some new stuff over there to
talk about?

Speaker 5 (01:36:30):
Speaking talking about stuff?

Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
News this hour it's brought to you by Window Nation.
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Speaker 8 (01:36:35):
Today it's going to be a high of fifty four,
so another great day to put up Christmas DearS, but
you don't have to light them up. Pittsburgh International Airport
officials say some changes will be made to the new
home of the iconic Franco Harris statue. The exhibit, which
is made possible through a partnership between the Hinds History

(01:36:57):
Center and the airport, raised some eyebrows after the new
terminal opened.

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
The clock is at zero and the.

Speaker 8 (01:37:04):
Scoreboard shows the Steelers leading twelve to seven. But that's
not exactly what happens, not right, it's happened. Franco's immaculate
reception did make the score twelve to seven, but there
was an extra point to make it thirteen to seven,
and five seconds were still on the clock at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
So you could argue twelve seven is the correct score
when he goes in the end zone, but there wouldn't
be zero seconds on the clock.

Speaker 7 (01:37:35):
So what are they going to do to bridge the
gap here?

Speaker 8 (01:37:38):
Well, so they know that the details, of course, are
important here. So the statement that they issued on Friday,
the airports said, just to clarify, the current background is
meant to be a collage of several moments in time
depicting the immaculate reception and the celebratory moments afterward.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
But I feel like this is why craw left the show.
She had to devote his time to being mad about that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
Exactly they are.

Speaker 9 (01:38:06):
To me, this sounds like the same pr person who
came up with the Bucco bricks but got also hired
to renovate the airport, totally screwed it up.

Speaker 8 (01:38:15):
Just yeah, you're gonna find the clock in a dumpster
somewhere in Reserve township. But they said they're going to
adjust the clock to depict how much time was left
when Franco scored prior to the extra point and make
other adjustments as needed. So they promise to make the
change so that they stopped getting all the hate because

(01:38:36):
they must have gotten.

Speaker 6 (01:38:37):
Blown up in the comments.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Oh my god, they were. I saw them happening in
real time. But I don't like the new diorama look
of it, you know what I mean? No, to me,
it almost looks like like a chapel like that.

Speaker 9 (01:38:56):
You would like devotional candles in and pray with the rosary.
Like they need to put some kneelers on there. I
think that would probably fulfill a lot of people's Yeah,
put a little Virgin Mary behind it. It's less of
a statue and more of a shrine. Now you can
you can light a candle, pay a dollar and light
a candle, right, but if.

Speaker 8 (01:39:12):
You could light a candle for the Steelers season, you
would do it right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
Oh my god, I'm not sure anything could fire up
this offense right now.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
God, I was looking for.

Speaker 8 (01:39:25):
Metaphor light it up, because it's just like the light
the candle and it's Mason in a like a full
denim outfit for some reason.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
Wait a minute, did you guys see Mason was was
on Tinder in Chicago this weekend and somebody posted it
was that was it Tinder or what was it there?

Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
Jacob?

Speaker 7 (01:39:43):
You know all this.

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
I think it's called Rayah, which is like an elevated
It's like.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Oh, that's the rich people want celebrities or yeah, like
by like you have to be referred to get in.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
You have to pay like a membership too. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:39:56):
So his Riya membership picture or his his profile picture
rather he is like slumped in a.

Speaker 8 (01:40:04):
Chair, casual man, spreading wear a venom outfit.

Speaker 7 (01:40:09):
All denim, full Canadian tuxedo.

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
Not Canadian tuxedo because that indicates a lighter wash.

Speaker 6 (01:40:16):
This is a dark wash.

Speaker 8 (01:40:18):
It's kind of fashion forward, but it's also bold.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
But listen, it looks like he is in the village
people though.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
I mean it's like very with the mustache. It's very
sort of seventies queer.

Speaker 6 (01:40:33):
I didn't look on the dating profile very closely.

Speaker 7 (01:40:35):
I didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:40:37):
I didn't see what I didn't look.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
Did you No, But he's I mean, no judgment. Here's
the deal.

Speaker 9 (01:40:43):
Like, if I wore he's a straight fella, full denim,
it would look ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
But this is this is my whole point with fashion.

Speaker 9 (01:40:51):
He's good looking, so if he wears a he could
wear whatever he wants to and throw that on that
thing and it's probably going to get a couple of
right swipes there.

Speaker 7 (01:40:59):
J I know, where's all that them all the time?
I don't think he'd gets swiped very often.

Speaker 9 (01:41:06):
Yeah, I think I science wiped on I'm driving my
fifty fur pencil.

Speaker 7 (01:41:12):
Anyways, I hope Mason scored off the field.

Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
Because we certainly had a hard time doing it on
the field.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
Maybe that's why I didn't play very well.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
He had a tough game. I mean, it's an unenviable position.
To come in at you know, week twelve, when you're
the backup. I get it, but I still just don't
think he's been playing that great. You know, as much
as I thought he was the best quarterback on our
roster a couple of years ago. He's won in six
in his last seven games with ten intercessions.

Speaker 5 (01:41:40):
So it hasn't been going great for him.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Although, look, that's not necessarily fair because I was on
a fair representation of his abilities because that was a
bad Titans team.

Speaker 10 (01:41:50):
That he was on.

Speaker 8 (01:41:52):
Yeah, you know what the thing is, and I think
I certainly think I sound like I'm alone in this.
For most of the game, I actually didn't think Mason
was that bad. I understand that he's not throwing moon balls,
but in terms of a short pass, conservative game and
keeping things moving through the first half, I actually didn't

(01:42:13):
have a problem with it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14):
Yeah, I think his bigger issue were lacks of O mission,
not CO mission, sure, where he didn't throw to where
he should have. Michael have more in that coming up
when he joins US will also give you the top
five plays of yesterday's lost to the Bears. We gotta
turn it right around and get ready for a post
Thanksgiving matchup with the Bills mafia invading Akroscher Stadium next Sunday.

Speaker 9 (01:42:38):
That's why I talk about a schizophrenic team, all the Bills.
They're scoring six touchdowns one week and then losing the
next week. Man, they have to be their fans have
to be just as psycho as us right now.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
But if you give Josh Allen that soft of a
zone to be able to pick us apart, are you
kidding me? They're gonna have I mean, first of all,
they are gonna have to control the line scrimmage much
better than they did, and they can run the ball
great too.

Speaker 7 (01:43:00):
Cook is lighting up the league. So big test once
again for your Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 10 (01:43:07):
Are you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Setting your sights on the postseason? If you're a Steeler fan, Well,
you lose this one, it's over. Yeah, I mean, losing
to the Bears made it really really hard because right
now you're looking at like games that you'll probably win, Dolphins,
maybe the Browns. The Browns defense is really really good
and Shador seem to have sparked something yesterday. I'm sure

(01:43:32):
that it's not all because of him, but he's not
Nylan Gabriel.

Speaker 9 (01:43:36):
Since when on the schedule, does games will probably win
have ever had a correlation to reality. I feel like
we look at the Dolphins like I will win that
game and then coin flip.

Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
Yeah it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
Who would have thought they would have been struggling to
get to above five hundred this year with the way
that the first seven weeks of the season went. Because
right now Mike tom And might be looking at his
first losing season as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And then you have to wonder how many more seasons
is Mike Tomlin gonna get because that talk has been

(01:44:10):
going on for a long time, and right now it
looks like the same exact fish every single year for
the past eight years. Middle of the pack, middle of
the pack. I feel like we all knew that was.

Speaker 5 (01:44:27):
Going to be the performance we were going to see yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
Nobody was confident like the offense was going to go
out and just even play conservatively and move the ball
and not make mistakes. Defense, as Mike points out and
will continue to point out when he comes in here,
they did get you seven points yesterday. They did stop
the Bears offense twice in a row in the fourth
quarter when you needed big defensive stops and he gave
the offense a chance to win. But we're terrified in

(01:44:52):
the middle of the fields and we just don't have
great receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
That's a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:44:59):
That's the problem.

Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
Fromatic.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
Rob Kaggs got a power hour Stealer talk coming up
at nine o'clock as well here on your radio Home
of the Black and Gold DV.

Speaker 5 (01:45:07):
Three two Sports.

Speaker 9 (01:45:12):
Mice Pursuit has got your sports right now on the
dv NHS Steelers lose to the Bears at Chicago yesterday
thirty one to twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
Could have been different?

Speaker 4 (01:45:24):
What could have been different? And there's plenty of blame
to go around.

Speaker 5 (01:45:31):
I think with all three phases.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Special teams has been getting left off the hook here
all morning long, and they are just as culpable Corless
Weightman killed them yesterday with what had to be the
worst game of his career. Punt coverage and kickoff coverage
was garbage as well.

Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
Yeah, one asterisk, that's still like somebody had explained to
me what Ben Scarnic did on the holding pedal. It
was initially assessed to the Bears and had the Bears
at the six yard line starting possession, and instead when
we came back from commercial, it was reversed to penalty
on the Steelers and the Bears were at the forty.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
What was up with the fact that every time CBS
went to commercial, it was like the entire game got
shook up in a snow globe and it was completely different. Yeah,
I evoted time, then no, next way, Well we're back
and turn and he's at the seventies eight.

Speaker 9 (01:46:28):
They literally did that on the game. Well, fake push,
tush push. That's probably because they were thought like, this
is a boring play.

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
They had a rough day. Steelers defense. Uh well, it's
really hard to accurately categorize how the defense performed in
that thirty one to twenty eight loss. Mike Tomlin took
the defense to task for not supporting the offense in
a more effective manner after the offense turned the ball
over yesterday in Chicago, and TJ. Watt wasn't about to argue.

Speaker 22 (01:47:00):
Definitely a point of emphasis to be able to help
our offense and create those limit them to three points
or no points, or create turnovers. And anytime you're not
able to do that, you're not able to support your offense.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
It's not a good recipe. It wasn't yesterday. Steels threw
an interception, bearstrove for touchdown. Steelers turned it over on
downs on a fake on a failed touch push, Bears
drove for a touchdown. Steels turned it over on a
Mason rudolph sax strip fumble. Bears drove for a touchdown.
But if you take a little deeper dive into the stats,

(01:47:33):
to quote the great Dennis Green, the Bears are who
we thought they were.

Speaker 7 (01:47:36):
Oh, no question, that was a beatable team.

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
They came in averaging one hundred and forty six point
six rushing yards per game. They got ninety nine. Caleb
Williams came in having completed fifty nine point seven percent
of his passes. He completed fifty four point three percent yesterday. Yeah,
there were some guys open and he missed him. That's
part of who they are. That's Kayleb Williams being Ale Williams.

(01:48:00):
The defense did get a touchdown on the Watch stripsack
and the Nick Herbert recovery, and only four explosive plays allowed.
An explosive play passing his twenty plus yards, running his
ten plus yards, only four explosive plays allowed to the
Bears that tied for the second best showing by a
Steelers defense this season.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Wasn't good enough here, okay, but also the Dj Moore
second touchdown, who's by himself running straight down the field.

Speaker 5 (01:48:28):
I'm going right to that. Here's the great Achilles heel
they have, and it showed up again yesterday. Merril has
been bitching about this. He's pitched about it multiple times
on our show here, He's pitched about it on the
Thursday night previous show I do with Merril and Matt Williamson.
There are times when they look like they have no
idea how to play his zone. The play you just referenced,

(01:48:49):
it's third and six from the Pittsburgh twenty five. Now
it starts wrong because Jack Sawyer jumps off side. Can't
do that, but the play is continuing. The Bears run
four go routes. The Steelers have four guys covering the
twenty yard line Eccles, Porter, Queen and Wilson Peyton Wilson

(01:49:12):
because that's where the sticks are, so they're playing the
big effects. There's nobody there. Everybody's running deep. So on
the left side you got Kyle Duggar covering Cole Coment.
On the right side you have James Pierre covering burden
and that leaves Jalen Ramsey in the middle for two
guys and they're not Unfortunately, they're not close enough together
that Jalen Ramsey can cover two guys at the same time.

(01:49:35):
Fifteen's running over the middle kind of leaning to the left,
and two's going right down the right. Scene Odunez and
more and Ramsey gets wrong. He went to fifteen and
they threw it to two. I bet if he went
the two.

Speaker 10 (01:49:51):
Fifteen?

Speaker 5 (01:49:52):
How you can have four guys covering grass And it's
been happening all year And this is stuff that I
don't think they're going to fix because they haven't yet.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
That's this is the point I've been making about the
defense all morning, And not that they are solely culpable,
but their mess ups are so catastrophic and game changes
that we see it every week.

Speaker 7 (01:50:17):
They are unable to fix it.

Speaker 9 (01:50:21):
And how am I supposed to feel good that, oh,
we're going to put in a gym of a defensive
effort against Josh Allen.

Speaker 5 (01:50:27):
Yeah, other than he stunk the last time he played.
Now he was playing a great defense, great defense, but
he's stunk. I mean all that you guys were talking
before the break about games they should win. There are
none of those. But there are also games they should lose.
I would say there are none of those. I mean,
Detroit had to go to overtime against the Giants at
home yesterday and had to scramble to get it to overtime.

(01:50:50):
I mean, trick plays galore, but field goal that took
a left turn Clyde at just the right moment. I mean,
the Jets were given Baltimore a run for the money
for a little long time, no doubt. But when you're
this up and down is the Steelers, and you have flaws.
The offense can't consistently complete a deep ball, the defense
can't consistently play zone. The special teams are in and

(01:51:11):
out right now. There's no reason to believe they won't
go three and three the rest of the way at best,
winning season at best.

Speaker 9 (01:51:21):
Because they're all toss ups, right, and you got those
three being Miami whichever. Yeah, well, you know that they'll
beat the Bills, losing the Dolphins. That's that's the tomlin
Way could see that.

Speaker 5 (01:51:33):
I mean, I could see him splitting with the Ravens.
I could see him. Ravens are not world beaters right now.
I could see him beating the Browns in Miami. I
could see him losing all those games. I don't think
Lamar came back from that injury in any way. I
don't The last time I saw them play was Cleveland
last Sunday. They were not impressive.

Speaker 9 (01:51:52):
I feel like, if we're in a position to make
you know, eke into the playoffs again and we have
the Browns, what second to last game, that's to be
a problem game. I think the Browns seem to always
get up. If they can just ruin our season, that's
a good season for them. And did she door provide
enough of a spark yesterday? Now, look, that is a
crap team.

Speaker 5 (01:52:12):
The Raiders do is like eleven for twenty one or something.

Speaker 9 (01:52:17):
Like that, one hundred yards and Mike that was only
with one week of practice.

Speaker 12 (01:52:25):
I mean, imagine what he's gonna do wayn It's crazy.
It's amazing, you know, of for one week of practice,
you know what I mean? Just one week of practice,
So imagine you know what a full off season looked like.
It get dangerous, but it's just a one week of practice.
So I'm just truly thankful. You know that everything happened.

Speaker 9 (01:52:42):
I wish I had one percent of his self confidence,
just one more self delusion.

Speaker 10 (01:52:49):
I mean, you know, either or.

Speaker 5 (01:52:51):
Well, what daddy's money. You might have a whole lot
of comment. Maybe nice. It's to sit here and say, Okay,
they're playing Team X and this is gonna happen. You're
just guessing because who knows.

Speaker 7 (01:53:06):
No doubt about it?

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
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Speaker 7 (01:53:52):
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Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
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Speaker 5 (01:54:13):
TIS this season, though, when you were in the mood
for a holiday mute.

Speaker 9 (01:54:19):
If he throws it there instead of there, you just
gotta beat that a hole and they get pass that
a hole and.

Speaker 5 (01:54:25):
Bluck that suck d bag.

Speaker 7 (01:54:29):
And get out of bounds. A lot had to happen
on that fourth and six at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:54:33):
Nothing but if Mason Rudolph doesn't throw it into the
blitz to a guy that's already covered and maybe dumps
it down to Gainwell, who's just got to beat their
sixth linebacker, maybe it would have been different and we
would add a different top play of the game.

Speaker 5 (01:54:48):
You'll signed deep shot to Austin there, but didn't take
it because all the ones they took before that didn't
work except for the one where they pass interfered.

Speaker 7 (01:54:55):
The top five plays of yesterday's game.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
On the second play for scrimmage for the Steelers on offense,
Mason Rudolph tries to hit DK going long and Nishan
Wright comes down with the big pick play.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Action pass looking at a fire deep up the left
sideline for metcap leaping attempt and brought down by the
Bears out of bounds. However, is right, Wright has four interception.
Now the near officials say he came down with it
a tremendous leaping brab by right.

Speaker 10 (01:55:31):
One handed snag.

Speaker 7 (01:55:33):
And let's see that's gonna be real, boss.

Speaker 20 (01:55:36):
It's a near reception by the defense first down Chicago.

Speaker 7 (01:55:42):
Well, that wasn't a great way to get things started.

Speaker 4 (01:55:46):
Now was after the defense knock the Bears out on
the opening possession, you thought, all right, great start, let's
go down and score.

Speaker 7 (01:55:53):
Stick it to him and we'll get the ball back
in the second half.

Speaker 10 (01:55:55):
This is gonna go great. Well.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
Bears would end up scoring seven to nothing on the
short pass to DJ Moore from Caleb Williams at number four.
The Steelers answer at the end of the first quarter
with the play that you loved how it was designed.

Speaker 5 (01:56:12):
Mike three tight ends left and DK metcalf running in motion,
catches a little backwards pass lateral as they ended up
ruling it after they changed it seventeen times, and he
waltzed in.

Speaker 10 (01:56:23):
To Metcalf in the left flack.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Metcalf turns on the Jets and Metcalf hit into the
end zone for the score with thirty seconds remaining in
the first quarter.

Speaker 7 (01:56:33):
It is a Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown.

Speaker 9 (01:56:36):
Dude, when he gets the wheels going, it is a
majestic thing to watch.

Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
You just gotta get it to him. I wonder why
they didn't come back to something similar. Maybe uh, fake
it to him and go to gainwell on the other
side at.

Speaker 4 (01:56:48):
Some point that was the end of the first core
seven to seven At number three or third play of
the game, with the time running down in the second quarter,
minute and change left, Steelers are in field goal range,
but they line up for the tush push.

Speaker 7 (01:57:06):
Now, it didn't go so well.

Speaker 5 (01:57:07):
The first time they ran at Mike did not well.
Actually I think it did.

Speaker 7 (01:57:12):
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:13):
I think they called it incorrectly, but because it was
so slow and developing, I was mad at them for
trying because it looked bad. But I still think they
got jobbed by the refs that nowithstanding, did Arthur Smith
see what the Ravens pulled off with Mark Andrews last
week on the fake Tush push where they bootlegged him out.

Speaker 5 (01:57:32):
He said afterwards it had nothing to do with the
Baltimore game. But the play is called let's run that
Baltimore thing with Mark Andrews.

Speaker 3 (01:57:38):
Quarterback sneak and now they're gonna give it the game
all around.

Speaker 20 (01:57:42):
The right edge game out course to get to the
clear plusse of the forty, the thirty, the twenty, inside
the ten.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Great blocks from Friarmouth and Thno want that cut off there.
I'm not sure why that cut off, but okay, it
was probably mimicking the TV broadcast. Yes, yeah, got started late.

Speaker 6 (01:58:00):
He hasn't doing so great.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
Great design, great execution. See look what happens when you
do it right at number two.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
Now, this one was early on here for your Pittsburgh
Steelers in the second half, just at the start of
the second quarter, after they score the DK Metcalf touchdown,
Jalen Williams steps back to passing his end zone and
he's doing total Kaleb Williams things here.

Speaker 9 (01:58:27):
This is when I was like, this guy sucks. We're
gonna be fine today.

Speaker 5 (01:58:31):
TJ.

Speaker 4 (01:58:32):
Watt takes care of business. Nick Herbig cleans it up
for six.

Speaker 7 (01:58:36):
William's back looking now, looking right now in trouble.

Speaker 20 (01:58:39):
TJ Watt gets it, clipped it down, the ball is
loose and the Steelers have recovered in the end zone.
It's a Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown. It's herbig flops on top
of the fuggle caused by TJ.

Speaker 7 (01:58:52):
Watt for the Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown.

Speaker 9 (01:58:55):
JJ Watt was trashing him on like as they went
to the commercial, like, what is this guy doing. He
actually had to kind of dial it back when they
came back. Oh Williams, yeah, oh yeah. He was like you,
He said, you've either got to pump it or dump
it or something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
Chuck it or touch chuck it or tucket pump it
or dump. Stump it or dump is what I used
to do when I was Dressy.

Speaker 10 (01:59:23):
Tried.

Speaker 5 (01:59:25):
They tried to block on one on one on that
play and he got held and he still made the play.

Speaker 7 (01:59:30):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
So there's what's going on with your Pittsburgh Steelers. Here
for your top play at the game. This was pretty
much it. DJ Moore scores on that easy touchdown.

Speaker 9 (01:59:40):
We were talking about before blown coverage or the softest
zone coverage.

Speaker 5 (01:59:44):
They had the twenty yard line blanketed. Yeah good, I
mean right across the field.

Speaker 9 (01:59:49):
After that, Steelers get the ball back and Montez Sweat,
who was you know, he is a game record and he.

Speaker 7 (01:59:56):
Had a hell of a game yesterday. Mount Washington just
couldn't handle this task.

Speaker 3 (02:00:03):
Go back to pass backside pressure by Sweating.

Speaker 10 (02:00:05):
The ball is free, It's.

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
On the ground, and it is still free, and it's
recovered by the Bears. I believe, yes, it is at
the forty five yard line. Sweat pause the fumble and
race back to recover it. Another turnover forced by the Bears,
and this Steelers promising drive is snucked out.

Speaker 10 (02:00:28):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:00:28):
I was talking about that play with Charlie last night
on the post game and he said, that's a great
example of the difference between home and road. And I
went back and looked at it again and you can
see Sweats get off is decidedly ahead of Washington reacting
because you're going silent counting these things happen. I guess
I'll tell you I can't turn it over there, can't

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turn it over there.

Speaker 4 (02:00:52):
Dark horse contender for play of the game is the
illegal formation penalty.

Speaker 5 (02:00:58):
That deserves a category all of its own.

Speaker 4 (02:01:01):
Completely screwed the Steelers who had a chance to win
that game late but couldn't come through.

Speaker 7 (02:01:06):
Thirty one to twenty eight. Bears over the Steelers.

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To snap with like one of the Steelers jumped early,
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Speaker 10 (02:02:02):
Into the stand.

Speaker 7 (02:02:04):
Yeah, that was a brutal one.

Speaker 4 (02:02:06):
We just recounted the many ways in which the Steelers
failed on that play and left Jalen Ramsey'd have to
choose one or the other, and that's Sophie's choice. Never
works out good for a safety and uh Steelers get
a twenty five or the Bears rat they get a
twenty five yard uncontested touchdown from DJ Moore on that
one voice of the Steelers on the Steelers Audio Network,

(02:02:28):
Rob King joining us right now, King or good morning,
How are you buddy?

Speaker 10 (02:02:31):
Good morning? How you guys doing doing great?

Speaker 9 (02:02:33):
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Speaker 10 (02:02:53):
Oh how was it? We did?

Speaker 9 (02:02:54):
We did it anyways, But but you have a little
upset about Yeah. I know you were trying to get
to postpone it, but yeah, yeah, I couldn't swing that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:02):
Unfortunately, our friendship's not as deep as I thought it was. Well,
you know what, all the musicians, mister Smalls, just please
do it on Friday night to Rob can.

Speaker 7 (02:03:11):
Go, We're gonna bring them all over your house and
just do it again.

Speaker 10 (02:03:14):
I love fantastic h.

Speaker 5 (02:03:16):
That's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (02:03:17):
I wish the Steelers could do it all over again,
because if they did at least the last two drives
of the game, I think they would have. Now that
illegal formation penalty was an absolute backbreaker, given that Mason
scrambles and puts it into Bear's territory, where now you're

(02:03:37):
just a first down away with three timeouts from a
Boswell field goal. But at that point you're thinking, well,
we're gonna get six. It's brought back. Things like that happen.
But it was more that it was emblematic to me
of just how boneheaded the Steelers were on both sides

(02:03:59):
of the ball and special teams yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:04:04):
Well, I mean, can you I guess you could pick
your adjective to describe them, but I.

Speaker 7 (02:04:09):
Think the boneheaded was a nice, all encompassing.

Speaker 10 (02:04:12):
There were just too many mistakes.

Speaker 3 (02:04:14):
Has special teams, which has been a real asset for
the Steelers, wasn't an asset yesterday. Not the best day
in the return game, not the best day in the
punting game.

Speaker 7 (02:04:26):
Oh no, we lost him again.

Speaker 9 (02:04:28):
It's a is CBS in charge of this broadcast that
I think he's still thinking of all the deficiencies.

Speaker 5 (02:04:33):
He's coming up with a silent list.

Speaker 7 (02:04:36):
Right now writing them all down.

Speaker 4 (02:04:37):
Yeah, our connection is not great this morning, but you
know you're going to have that. The special teams are
getting off easy. Corlis Weightman stinks.

Speaker 9 (02:04:45):
Am I so as a as someone who came from
a punting and kicking family. What's with the variability between
a fifty six yard punt and then the very next
play a thirty six yard punt. It's just coming off
his foot wrong. Like what is like like anything bad?
It's just a bad punt.

Speaker 7 (02:05:00):
But he's having a bad day yesterday altogether.

Speaker 4 (02:05:03):
Like, just think about the fact that on the fourth
down where everybody wanted Mike Tomlin to go for it
with two minutes left, and he had three timeouts, and
his calculation was, let's just stop them, let's use our
timeouts and in a two minute warning and then get
the ball back and try.

Speaker 7 (02:05:19):
To go down the field with no timeouts.

Speaker 9 (02:05:21):
Okay, I see the logic in that you got a
thirty three yard punt out of Corliswaman. Let's say you
get a forty three yard punt out of him, which
is like median level punt, right Kinger Yep. Now the
Steelers aren't not kicking a sixty five yard field goal

(02:05:41):
from Boswell. They're attempting a fifty five yardfield goal to
tie the game at the end.

Speaker 5 (02:05:49):
That stuff killed them all Dayish a field position.

Speaker 9 (02:05:52):
At the end of the half, they gave him a
thirty five yard kickoff return. They ended up getting three
on that drive instead of the Steelers scoring and then
getting the ball back and holding him. So there were
many instances where kickoff kick coverage, punt coverage wasn't good enough,
the punt coverage was not existent because the punts were
just awful. I don't know that he had won over

(02:06:14):
thirty six yards yesterday, Rob.

Speaker 10 (02:06:16):
Yeah, it wasn't his best day.

Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
I mean, he's been so consistent and the coverage units
have been so consistent.

Speaker 10 (02:06:21):
I mean's one of those punters where.

Speaker 7 (02:06:23):
He's been good.

Speaker 10 (02:06:24):
He has that's been better than the average, right the
net's been I mean I.

Speaker 4 (02:06:27):
Said he's stunk. He doesn't stunk, he's stunk yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
Yeah, I think he was eleventh in the league in
net going into yesterday's game as opposed to their punter
read a better average and was twenty second in the
league in net. And it was one of those things
that I was looking at that I thought that the
students would have an edge. I mean, I know Duvenet
is a good returner, but for whatever reason, the Steelers
didn't have an edge there. I think you're right to
bring that up that that long you know, the field goal.

(02:06:50):
I'm sorry, Yeah, the field goal before the end of
the half was set up by the longer return, right,
So that's that, you know, potentially cost you three points,
you know. I again, I understand what you're saying with Weightman.
But then their punter kicks it in the end zone, right,
I'm sure they're thinking, Wow, why didn't they kick it
to the it should and you know ten yards field position.

Speaker 10 (02:07:09):
That's maybe that is fair caught at to ten.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
It was an interesting decision to not go for it
at the end of the you know, with a two
minute warning there, but that turned out to not be
a factor to me. There was plenty of time to
get the ball into field goal range at the very least,
and they just they couldn't do it. It was It's
cruciating because there's been a few games like this in
which it feels like one or two plays or three

(02:07:32):
or four plays or whatever. It is, little things going
against you and costing you. Much needed victories.

Speaker 4 (02:07:37):
Do you see the lack of offensive production than twenty
one points for the offense yesterday and the defense gave
him a touchdown as well. Does that have more to
do with lack of execution or do you think that
this conservative approach week in and week out leaves them
no margin of error?

Speaker 3 (02:07:57):
Well, I think that's a really good question, right if
we knew the end that. I do think that there's
two games now of the last several in which the
inability to come out in the second half and put
together a drive has cost the team. I felt like
they had the Packers, and think about this. You know,
at the end of the Packers game, we're all dragging

(02:08:17):
back to the car, think, wow, that the Studer. They
got beat pretty convincingly in that game. Fact of the
matter is they were leading going into the fourth quarter.
You know, if they'd put together a drive and they
were leading, you know, coming out of halftime. Okay, so
it's twenty one seventeen. If you put together a touchdown
drive there, it's a different game. If you put together

(02:08:38):
a touchdown drive against the Packers, I'm firmly convinced you
win the game against Green Bay, and I think you
to put yourself in a great position to do that.
It's for whatever reason, they've been great in opening drives
in the first half and not great in opening drives
in the second half. And again, that's one of those
things where you talk about momentum swings and other things
that are vital to games within the game itself, that's

(02:09:00):
one that all of a sudden gets you back on
your heels offensively and defensively. So I think that that's
something that they've got to find a way to clean
up this, you know, this sort of third quarter lulls
that they've had in the past couple of weeks. When
you're facing good opponents, you can't have that, because they
were portions of this game where I thought the Steelers
were clearly the better team. But you you know, you

(02:09:23):
need to find ways and I thought that same thing
about Green Bay.

Speaker 10 (02:09:26):
You need to find.

Speaker 3 (02:09:27):
Ways to to to put the hammer down on a team,
and and they've I thought they let the Bengals off
the off the mat in the first meeting, no question,
you know, I think that could have been seventeen nothing
in that game there. And listen, you know they're saying
the other teams are saying the same thing. Believe me,
if we hadn't given up that play in the first half,
you know, we'd have won that game or whatever.

Speaker 10 (02:09:46):
I mean, that's that's the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:09:47):
It's what it comes down to, and we're used to
the Steelers being the team that makes those plays, and
the last few weeks it's been elusive for him.

Speaker 9 (02:09:55):
If it's and ifs and butts where candy and knuts,
my aunt would be my uncle.

Speaker 7 (02:09:59):
So here's my ques question to you.

Speaker 3 (02:10:01):
I thought we'd all have a merry Christmas, but I
always mixed metaphors.

Speaker 7 (02:10:05):
Get nice.

Speaker 4 (02:10:06):
Uh the weekend and week out, this soft zone coverage
they keep deploying.

Speaker 7 (02:10:13):
What why do you think they are married to that?

Speaker 11 (02:10:18):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:10:18):
I think Caleb Williams caught him once in man, I'm
trying to think back because.

Speaker 4 (02:10:23):
Caleb, Caleb Williams seemed to get flustered with any pressure
in front of him and had massive trouble in a tight,
tight window.

Speaker 7 (02:10:31):
He completed fifty four percent of his passes yesterday.

Speaker 10 (02:10:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:10:35):
Uh, He's an interesting guy, Caleb Williams, because you can
see the arm talent, and you see the ability to
run and the things that he brings to a team,
and you know, he the touchdown pass uh to the
tight end in the first half. I mean he caught
him coming right out of the break. That was a
really good throw on time. And you know, it's almost

(02:10:56):
like he throws the intermediate ball better. But I don't
know he was in accurate media balls as well. Throws
the ball away a lot, which I think his coach
wants him to do, which hurts his completion percentage a
little bit. But yeah, accurately, he's not the most accurate
thrower for sure, and the Steelers just didn't do enough
to disrupt his timing, you know, so I think it

(02:11:17):
was one sack and one quarterback hit. You know, the
Steelers led the league in quarterback hits going into this game,
and they weren't able to make him uncomfortable. And I
think the notion is, hey, let's get home, let's make
him uncomfortable, and then if he does complete something, we
can tackle the catch. But when you don't make him
uncomfortable and you're playing backs, that seemed to be a

(02:11:38):
bad combination yesterday in which you know there's third and tens,
third and elevens and we've seen that, you know, I'm
sure too frequently for the Steelers' taste, these long third
down conversions, you know, third and ten, third and eleven,
keeping drives alive and not getting off the field. And yeah,
there were you know, there are guys that appeared to

(02:11:58):
be wide open down the middle of the field on
several occasions, and you know that's got to be cleaned up,
has to be or it's going to be difficult going
down the stretch here.

Speaker 4 (02:12:08):
Kinger, I think that Steeler fans have enjoyed so much
of the later part, the latter part of Mason Rudolph's
time with the Steelers, that the assumption is, oh, Aaron
Rodgers can't go, That's fine, Mason's just as good. I'm
one hundred percent guilty of being that person. My expectation
was that there would be little drop off. I don't

(02:12:30):
think that was the case yesterday. I think he struggled yesterday.
And I'm wondering your thoughts on where likely just because
of rust he fell short or missed some opportunities yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:12:43):
Well, Mike Tomlin was asked about the evaluation in Mason
Rudolph yesterday after the game, and he said, look, we
lost the game, and he's part of that, right. So,
you know, I thought Mason. I thought Mason was fine.
I thought the Steelers, especially against a Bear's team that
was banged up, I thought the Steelers were the better team,
and I thought they were going to win the game.

Speaker 10 (02:13:03):
And you know the Bears. Look, the Bears have pulled.

Speaker 3 (02:13:07):
I mean, I just figure, what are you going to
reach into that hat and there's not a round at
the bottom of it. I mean, you know, they've just
you know, they've They're eight and four, eight and four,
and they have a negative point differential. They've been outscored
by their opponents. And they're eight and four. How does
that figure? Five games they've won in the last two minutes,
and you could almost count yesterday as a game like

(02:13:27):
so it doesn't officially count, but they they in the
last two minutes of the game. They came through five
games and and you know, the records, the clear records
on that go back to nineteen eighty three and it's
been it ties a record going back at least forty
two years of winning games in.

Speaker 10 (02:13:45):
The last two minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:13:46):
They have been able to do things that I think
we've grown accustomed to the Steelers doing, which is winning
games late. You know it's close, and you know under
Mike Tomlin, it's close. Steelers are gonna win. That's just
the way it's been. And you know, the the Bears
have that magic this year. I thought Mason Rudolph was fine.
I thought the I thought that the team with Mason

(02:14:08):
Rudolph and with the way he played, was good enough
to win. And it wasn't. And I'm not sure why
other than the stalling. You know, you look up in
the in the third quarter again, I just keep pointing
to that third quarter. CBS flashed up a stat and
I happen to see it, even though I don't look
at their monitor very often when I'm doing the game.
And you know, remember the Steelers got the ball first, right,

(02:14:28):
they got the ball to begin the second half, and
they flashed up with a couple of minutes left in
the fourth quarter that the yardage was one hundred and
twelve to thirteen in the third quarter. Well, you can't
have that on either end, right, defensively, you can't give
them that amount of yardage in a quarter of play.
And you got the ball first and you were still
you know, you put together a drive that's literally an

(02:14:50):
impossible statistic, So you know, you don't put it together
the drive, and then you give up a drive to them,
and then you know, you wind up chasing the game again.
And that's just happened too frequently for me. As far
as Mason, I thought he was. I thought he was
good enough to you know, to win. Did he make
you know, big plays?

Speaker 16 (02:15:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:15:06):
Was he a victim of an unbelievable interception?

Speaker 10 (02:15:09):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
I thought there were some guys opened down the sideline,
including that one to Metcalf where he had a chance
to And I thought Roman Wilson had a step later
when he took a shot up the left sideline.

Speaker 10 (02:15:20):
You know those are throws.

Speaker 3 (02:15:21):
I think if you've lays it out in front of him,
there's a chance those are completed. That having been said,
I thought the game plan, especially early on, was solid.
They gave him passes he could complete. They stretched the
Bears wide, they ran it up the middle. They had
a great rushing half in the first half, and then
it again, it just didn't happen in the second half.

Speaker 9 (02:15:40):
Hey, Rob, they're saying that they the offense. You know,
they're not taking deep shots. Mason can't throw the deep ball,
but is some of this checkdown stuff, shallow crossing routes.
Is this sort of an indictment on what they kind
of implicitly think about their pass protection that we're not
talking about.

Speaker 10 (02:15:56):
It's a great question. I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 3 (02:15:58):
I mean, you know, when when you talk about Aaron
Rodgers with the quick release right like, that's been a
story all season long.

Speaker 10 (02:16:06):
So what are the causes of a quick release?

Speaker 3 (02:16:08):
Well, first of all, he can read the off he
can read the defense like nobody, so he knows, you know,
before the ball snapped exactly where he's going with it.

Speaker 10 (02:16:16):
So that helps.

Speaker 3 (02:16:17):
But again then you start thinking, well does he have
to do that? Is he trying to protect the offensive line?

Speaker 10 (02:16:23):
Early on?

Speaker 3 (02:16:24):
He got two new tackles starting, you know, Broderick a
new left tackle, Foaltano's starting at right tackle, And then
you start thinking, are you trying to marry the scheme
to that? Frankly, it's a great question, and I don't
know the answer to that.

Speaker 10 (02:16:37):
I don't know. I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (02:16:39):
I don't know whether they're implicitly saying that, or whether
that's what they want to do, or that's that's what
is best for the team.

Speaker 10 (02:16:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:16:46):
It's a great question and it's one I've pondered, and
it's one I don't know the answer to.

Speaker 4 (02:16:50):
Do you have a sense of why we haven't seen
Scantlon on the roster? You know, they go out and
get him with the thinking, well, he's got a history
with Aaron Rodgers. You know, we don't exactly have stellar
production out of our number two wide receiver right now,
maybe this guy can get something jump started. I'm surprised

(02:17:12):
that we haven't even seen him in a helmet.

Speaker 3 (02:17:16):
Well, I mean his numbers, you know, he's he's not
the prime Marquez Valdez scanting, right, And I think he
reminds me a little bit of at this point of
his career. Now again, I don't want to undersell him,
but he reminds me a little bit of when they
got Mike Williams last year, right, like a veteran guy
who's been around, certainly not enjoying the salad years. It's

(02:17:36):
a raising Arizona references, Yes, not enjoying the salad years
maybe of his career. It'll be interesting. It's gonna be
interesting to see whether they whether they decide that this
isn't enough. But again, I still go and I understand
where you're coming with that question. You know, they're gonna
put the guys that they think are best out there,

(02:17:57):
and certainly for the scheme that they have they have,
I haven't been getting enough production. I thought they would,
and I thought I thought Johnny Smith was gonna have
a big year. I thought Calvin Austin was gonna have
a big year. At the beginning of the year, it
looked like Calvin was gonna have a big year.

Speaker 10 (02:18:10):
And then I just.

Speaker 3 (02:18:11):
Thought that with the other guys, you know, Roman Wilson
coming back.

Speaker 10 (02:18:16):
You know, it was so funny last year he got
drafted and was like, oh, we got our slot guy.

Speaker 3 (02:18:20):
And this year he's like, you know, in fans view,
like on a milk cart, you know, like he's a bust.

Speaker 10 (02:18:25):
He was hurt last year for crying out loud.

Speaker 3 (02:18:27):
Yeah, you know, they're just sort of blithely expecting he
was going to be the guy. Well, I thought he
would come along, and I think he has to some
degree utilizing a little bit more of Darnel Washington, Pat Fryarmouth.
It feels like it feels like to me, like there's
enough there. And I've said this and I guess I'm wrong.
I guess they you know, maybe they do need somebody else.
I thought there was enough there, enough variety. We all

(02:18:48):
knew that the passing attack was going to be good enough.
I mean, I understood Randy people were saying we need
to go out and get a number two receiver. I
wasn't as adamant about that as others, But you know,
maybe I was wrong that.

Speaker 4 (02:19:00):
I just can't believe that at this point in the
year that Johnny Smith doesn't have more production than currently.
I mean, how many receptions does he have on the
season right now?

Speaker 10 (02:19:15):
I think he's there.

Speaker 3 (02:19:16):
I think he's their second leading receiver in terms of receptions.
But the yards per reception, that's you know, that's where
it's it's it's sort of not happening, you know. I mean,
there's I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get those statistics.
Six point three yeah, I mean, wow, you know that's.

Speaker 7 (02:19:37):
He's twenty nine catches on forty one targets.

Speaker 10 (02:19:39):
Yeah, after Gainwell's tied with metcalfs.

Speaker 3 (02:19:41):
I mean, I'm talking about among the receiving cores, he's
second behind DK Metcalf with twenty nine catches but six
point three yards per reception. I mean again, that's kind
of what you expect out of a running back, you know, right,
and they just haven't been able to unleash him.

Speaker 10 (02:19:55):
And I'm not sure why. I don't know. Again, it
feels like, you know, you see the points of the game.
To me, again, this is this is my opinion.

Speaker 3 (02:20:06):
I see the points of the game where the Steelers
look great. You know, they look like they're marching the
ball down the field, They're running the football effectively, the
offense looks really good, the defense gets a sack, and
it's just it hasn't been consistent enough for them. And
I still, you know, again, maybe I'm just looking, you know,
through the wrong lens here, but I see the elements

(02:20:29):
for a team that I think should be better than
six and five, And I still have hope that they
can put those elements together and you know, make a
run here down the stretch, because they've they're pretty much
the margin of error that they had getting off to
the fast start has pretty much been whittled down to
little or none.

Speaker 4 (02:20:47):
Oh no, yeah, I mean I think they're they're back
and even basically at this point, you know, just on
the other side of it, uh, going forward on the
tush push all right, while the one they didn't get
I actually think they crossed the line to gain and
got a bad spot on that one. But it developed
so slowly that I was like, this, it never looks

(02:21:10):
good when we do it, but it's had some success.
And then the fake to gain, well, you know, which
may or may not have been parodying off what we
saw Mark Andrews do last week for the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (02:21:20):
That was brilliant, brilliant.

Speaker 4 (02:21:22):
So I know we're not gonna stop seeing that anytime soon.
But might I suggest we just let eighty take the
ball there? Like, if we're gonna do it, just give
him the ball because if.

Speaker 5 (02:21:36):
He falls forward, that's probably a first down.

Speaker 10 (02:21:41):
Well, I liked the idea.

Speaker 3 (02:21:42):
I mean, I mean, he looks like he could just
simply and maybe what he should do is just tuck
Connor Hayward under.

Speaker 2 (02:21:48):
He just pick up that's.

Speaker 10 (02:21:51):
Run and run him down.

Speaker 9 (02:21:52):
The Actually, why I think it was so slow developing
yesterday's because I think Connor was waiting for him to
pick him up and put him in the babyborn like
I literally think he was waiting to be embraced by
Washington and then start moving or something, because he just
stood there for a second.

Speaker 4 (02:22:08):
I don't know why. Maybe he was trying to make
sure he had the ball. That's the frustration and the
frustrating thing with the tush pushes. You never know what
the hell's going on in the middle of it. You
can't you can't officiate it. You can't really see what's happening.
And I think they did get hosted there, But I
think you just give it to Washington going forward and
let him do it and then let Connor push him.

Speaker 10 (02:22:27):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:22:27):
Maybe I will say this, It did look strange, and
I think I said it on the edge and it
just didn't feel like it was like it was almost
like he was standing straight up and then he got
the snap.

Speaker 10 (02:22:38):
It didn't look right. I mean, it looked off kilter.

Speaker 3 (02:22:41):
Having said that, and again I didn't get you know,
I'm not hearing the review. I'm not hearing Geene's sterritor.
I don't know if it was Gene yesterday. Was it
was it Gene?

Speaker 11 (02:22:49):
It was?

Speaker 3 (02:22:50):
Yeah, Okay, I'm not hearing, you know, his explanation for
what happened.

Speaker 10 (02:22:54):
The only thing I can think of on that tush.

Speaker 3 (02:22:56):
Push and that was a bad sequence, right, They thought
they had the first down, and then they they're showing
them replay and they're showing the replay that you know,
guy's got his finger in gain Well's eye and he's
ripping his face mask down. You know that that's a bad,
bad optic. They can't review that, you know.

Speaker 9 (02:23:12):
So that's the thing that I don't think a lot
of Steelers fans real you just because they missed it,
you can't see it on the replay and call it right.

Speaker 10 (02:23:21):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:23:22):
And then the other thing was it really looked to me,
uh you know that he had the first down and
that of course that wound up being just a massive call.
And when they went to break, I was still firmly convinced.
I mean, my eyes were on the red hat during
the TV timeout.

Speaker 10 (02:23:42):
He's you know, they're they're looking at it.

Speaker 3 (02:23:43):
They're reviewing all those plays, and he's with the officials,
and I was like ninety percent convinced they were going
to overturn that. Now, look, I have not and never
will be somebody that comes on and say, oh, the
officials job, so that you know, I'm just listen and
if if you know, I understand people get upset and
they get excited about it. I figure those things usually

(02:24:05):
over the course of a game balance themselves out. But
I just I was surprised, not quite shocked, but darn
close to it surprised that they did not overturn that
and call it a first down. I don't know what
the explanation was, you know, the thing you can say,
maybe I don't know when they blew the whistle right,
you know, I have no idea, and maybe that was
an explanation for not giving it to him, But.

Speaker 10 (02:24:27):
It clearly seemed to me like he gained the line
to gain.

Speaker 3 (02:24:32):
But you know, so it goes and you know again
that sets up the beautiful reverse later to gain.

Speaker 10 (02:24:38):
Well that was a near touchdown.

Speaker 3 (02:24:40):
So yeah, again, just when you talk about the outcome
of a game, that's one of those little things that
if you pick that up and you go down and
either kick a field goal or you score a touchdown,
I mean your leads that much bigger going into halftime.

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(02:25:16):
rectum before he fumbled. What a gift that, Yeah, maybe
that'll be our call of the day. Who knows, Mike, Uh,
wasn't Mason already on his rectum?

Speaker 9 (02:25:26):
If you're on your rectum, something really bad has had.
Your rectum is inside, so if you're sitting on top
of it, then something has really really gone horribly wrong.

Speaker 11 (02:25:38):
Yeah.

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Speaker 5 (02:26:42):
Sports US have brought to you by Bridgeville Applied. So
there was a time when the Steelers were four and
one and in control of the AFC North. Not anymore,
in the wake of four losses in six games, including
yesterday's thirty one to twenty eight loss in Chicago to
the eight and three Chicago Bears. I still don't know
how they're eight and three. I don't know how many

(02:27:04):
more games they're going to win the rest of the way.

Speaker 4 (02:27:06):
I don't know how they couldn't have made it easier
on the Steelers yesterday either. Everybody was hurting their defense
and we still couldn't take advantage of it, and somehow
they come out of this eight and three.

Speaker 5 (02:27:15):
It's a joke. You know, they're the worst eight three
team in the history of eight and three. You get
one hundred and eighty six yards rushing, usually you win
the game. You get a defensive score, usually you win
the game. The Steelers found the way to do both
of those things and not win the game. But as
the old coach might have said, and Mason Rudolph said yesterday,
they are not tiered.

Speaker 15 (02:27:39):
There's never been panic here. We've been Pittsburgh Steeler long
enough to know we've been behind down in the division
and up and there's just a it's a natural have
been flowed the season, and I'm very confident of our
guys to, you know, keep fighting and end up on top.

Speaker 9 (02:27:57):
I know you have to say this, but it's basically
saying we're used to this, and that's disturbing in it
of itself.

Speaker 5 (02:28:05):
Now we're used to this up and down roller coaster.
Being six and five, maybe going to eke into the playoffs.
This is fine, Everything's fine. It's been that way for
a while now, six and five, same record as the Ravens.
But The Ravens are currently in possession of first place
in the division because they're two to zero in the
division to this point, the Steelers are two and one.
Pittsburgh is the first team on the outside looking in

(02:28:27):
in terms of the wildcard race. Steelers are six and five,
the Texans are six and five, the Chiefs are six
and five. What do Steelers have remaining? We mentioned today
that they could probably win any one of their remaining
games or lose any one of their remaining games. It's
not like they're gonna have to run a gauntlet. Buffalo

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is three and four and it's last seven and two
and three on the road. The Bills have beaten Baltimore,
Kansas City, and Tampa, lost at Atlanta, and lost at Miami.
It's not a bridge too far. Then you get the
Baltimore Ravens, who have won five in a row and

(02:29:10):
are six and five. They beat the snot out of
the Bears at home back in October to start to
start their winning streak. Since then, they've beaten Miami four
and seven, Minnesota four and seven, Cleveland three and eight,
and the Jets two and nine, and none of those
were layups from start to finish. The Ravens. Go ahead
and crown them if you want. I'm not willing to

(02:29:32):
do that. Then it's Miami four and seven. Overall, Dolphins
are showing some signs of life. They've won three of four,
and they get in New Orleans and the Jets before
they play the Steelers. So maybe the Dolphins will come
here on a roll, but it'll be Miami playing in
Pittsburgh at night in December.

Speaker 9 (02:29:51):
Yeah, you got to remember what the Ravens though. They're
doing the reverse of what we do. They've lost to
teams they should have probably lost to, and beat all
the teams that they should have beat because who they lose.
They lost to the Chiefs, the Bills. I mean, they're
losing the good teams.

Speaker 4 (02:30:08):
They they didn't suffer too much when Lamar was out
and being egregiously defeated by you know, the Bengals and
stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (02:30:19):
Baltimore, by the way, still has to play Cincinnati twice,
and Burrow's coming back. They go to Cincinnati on Thanksgiving
night the road. They're a road team on a Thursday
against Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and T Higgins.

Speaker 4 (02:30:32):
I'm not discounting the Steelers' opportunities here Mike.

Speaker 5 (02:30:36):
Baltimore still plays New England, Baltimore still plays at Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (02:30:41):
Not discounting their opportunity, it's their inability to take advantage
of situations like yesterday. I know it was Mason Rudolph,
but there's no way they should have lost that game.
There's no way they should have lost that first game
to Cincinnati. Agreed and agreed, but this it might be
one of those years. Nine and eight might win the
division if it's the right nine yeah against Baltimore. Nine

(02:31:05):
and eight might get you in the playoffs if it's
the right now now. Of course, the whole goal this year,
and the whole plan, was.

Speaker 5 (02:31:09):
To stop getting in is the seventh seed and having
to go on the road for an ass kick, and
it was to actually have a real quarterback and win
the division and get at least one home game. But
if they have to go on the road, if they
have to go on the road for the aas kicking,
it would be to Indianapolis or New England. And they've
already beat both of those teams. That is true, So

(02:31:32):
you know.

Speaker 9 (02:31:34):
It sucks right now, but there's a lot of golf left.
Ramandre Stevenson really did help him out on that end.
I mean, I know the defense played great and they
helped get you the fumbles, but that dude could not
hold onto the ball that day.

Speaker 5 (02:31:45):
He could not couple three plays yesterday and they were
all just catastrophic failures.

Speaker 4 (02:31:54):
The problem is it never looks different. It's always the
same kind of bad, always the same mistakes. The defense
playing way too soft, the offense with this limited.

Speaker 5 (02:32:08):
But it's again, we went over this today. They held
the Bears below what the Bears.

Speaker 7 (02:32:12):
Usually do, but they gave up the huge touchdown.

Speaker 5 (02:32:17):
But they did. But you're saying way too you know,
sometimes that place to their advantage. We can we can
pick and cherry pick plays and say that was terrible,
and we'd be right. But they held them under their
total yards. They held them way under their rushing yards.
Caleb Williams was Caleb Williams. They won the time of possession,
which we won, and they gave up thirty, which means
you lose ninety of the time. It was some good something.

(02:32:42):
They also scored seven the defense, so they held the
Bears to their average. They were who they thought they were.
I'm the offense has to be better. We've been see.

Speaker 4 (02:32:52):
I don't think the defense is more culpable than the
offense or special teams yesterday. But what I'm saying is
they don't get better, just bite having all of the
big names and all of the big money talent, and
no matter what we do, it never gets better. That
is a game that they should have should have been
able to make the Bears offense look even more one dimensional,

(02:33:13):
and they couldn't take advantage of one of the worst
percentage quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker 5 (02:33:19):
Well, all I know they scored, not a perfect game
by far that We've talked about their season long issues
with being unable to play zone defense bites them every game,
but that was the offense had two shots to tire
win that game and failed.

Speaker 9 (02:33:39):
I'm going offense, special teams, defense, yeahity.

Speaker 7 (02:33:44):
And coaches tied all over it, all over it.

Speaker 5 (02:33:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:33:49):
Rob Kings sitting there, head in hand right now, just
frustrated and the same talk of the same problems that
we've been seeing all year long.

Speaker 7 (02:33:57):
But what's say you, sir?

Speaker 10 (02:34:00):
Again?

Speaker 3 (02:34:00):
I go back to and I don't think I'm far
off from what Mike is saying. First of all, I
felt like the steerlers really needed to win one of
these two games. Right, they needed to either beat the
Bears or beat the Bills. I thought the Bears were
the easier pickings. I thought they were going to win
the game. If you had a choice, you'd rather beat
the Bills because they're an AFC team. So it just
sets up a really important game on Sunday to beat

(02:34:22):
the Bills at home, defeat an AFC opponent. But there's
been a couple of games this year that are uncharacteristic
of what we've seen of this year. Is over the years,
like Mike said, you tell me you're gonna come up
with a defensive touchdown. You're gonna win the time of
possession for the first time all year. You're gonna run
more plays than the other team, by the way, decidedly
winning time of possession, running the football, all of those elements. Right,

(02:34:44):
If you give me all those puzzle pieces, I'm putting
together a puzzle that has a w right. And for
some reason, there's been a couple of games like that
this year in which it just doesn't seem to fit.

Speaker 10 (02:34:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:34:55):
It's why I'm still holding out hope that there's a
better football team in there that we've seen results wise
because I just see a lot of the puzzle pieces
in place, and you know this, this was one in
which if you told me going in, they're gonna have
a defensive touchdown, they're gonna run for one to eighty six,
they're gonna win the time of possession, they're gonna run
more poison the Bears.

Speaker 10 (02:35:15):
Okay, then they're gonna win, and they didn't know.

Speaker 9 (02:35:18):
You know, My nightmare scenario next week is that Aaron
Rodgers still can't go, and then Josh Allen gets hurt
and we see Mitch Trubisky versus Mason Rudolph and Mitch
lights up the Steelers defense.

Speaker 5 (02:35:30):
I think Aaron Rodgers goes next Sunday if his heart
is beating. You're probably right about that.

Speaker 9 (02:35:36):
All Right, Call of the Day from the Steelers Audio
Network post game show.

Speaker 7 (02:35:40):
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Speaker 5 (02:35:49):
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Speaker 7 (02:35:51):
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Speaker 4 (02:35:53):
One on two point five dve were Worth rob King,
Voice of the Steelers on the Steelers Audio Network and
with Mike Pursuit who hosts the postgame show and every
week I like Mike to highlight one of the calls
that you and Charlie Batch get.

Speaker 5 (02:36:06):
You brought this back. You don't like this feature? No,
I love this feature. This is how you deal with trauma,
like you have to relive it and confront it head on.

Speaker 4 (02:36:15):
And Rob King he's probably got a little pts D
from this as well, having been on that post game show.

Speaker 7 (02:36:22):
Here's from yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:36:25):
Pete in the car. You're up next with Mike and Charlie.
How are you, Pete? Good?

Speaker 18 (02:36:30):
Guys, I'm confused as well, you know, just licking my
wounds from matt tough loss, you know what get you know,
talking about the broadcast. So I have a quick story
and a question to follow. So I have my kids
this weekend and they're.

Speaker 8 (02:36:44):
Like, that's good on a game.

Speaker 18 (02:36:46):
So I'm like, okay, that's good. So we go down
a game. We go down drives on no traffic or nothing,
and all of a sudden we get down there, no gang,
it's in Chicago. So Ali, you know they had trouble
with the broadcast. Did they ever time? Like where this
game is being played?

Speaker 10 (02:37:02):
Like much? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:37:04):
They start and main when the schedules released, but I always.

Speaker 18 (02:37:09):
Switch it up, don't they, you know, like with the
times and stuff.

Speaker 23 (02:37:13):
No, it's pretty much been. We'll know the game was
in Chicago today. Yeah, the time stayed to stay. The
time can change, but never the venue once the schedule
is released. I'm not sure where the mix up happened
as you were preparing for the game to day.

Speaker 18 (02:37:28):
Maybe an old I don't know, maybe an old schedule
or something.

Speaker 17 (02:37:31):
I don't know. But okay, so.

Speaker 18 (02:37:33):
Getting onto the game, Okay, to the game. We have
an overabundance of tight ends, right.

Speaker 5 (02:37:40):
A fair amount of a lot of four essentially on
the roster.

Speaker 18 (02:37:43):
Yes, and I don't know if Tom don't even thought
about this, But what if you played them at like
other positions, so the other team don't know where you're
throwing the ball. You know, could be the guy next
to the center, he goes out like Washington, he's picked
if he blocks or if he goes out and they
throw the ball. And it's pretty simple. But I don't

(02:38:05):
know just why nobody else thought about it, especially you're
so deep the deposition.

Speaker 9 (02:38:09):
Yeah, ultimately, when you get to this point of the season,
tendency is always start to kind of play out package
is good a substitution packages personnel groups that you're putting
on the field. So by trying to put three tight
ends and then maybe for an example, putting John Smith
out wide.

Speaker 4 (02:38:24):
You're saying Charlie couldn't even he got him back on
the He got whatever that was back right on the
rails pretty right there.

Speaker 5 (02:38:32):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:38:33):
So that guy suggesting that you put the tight end
guard and then he runs a route, Yeah, what if
you put.

Speaker 11 (02:38:42):
Hold on?

Speaker 9 (02:38:42):
I got to finish it. I gotta finish it. It's
still three tight ends on the field. So defensively they're
going to use that package.

Speaker 5 (02:38:49):
Truly.

Speaker 18 (02:38:50):
I met like, you know, you have the center and
then you go one tight end on right next to
him and one tight end right on the other side,
so he could either block or he could go out
for a pass.

Speaker 5 (02:38:58):
Yeah, they're not. We'll line up there and catch a
pass by rule. Appreciate the call, Pete, I got waited
like a half an hour.

Speaker 7 (02:39:10):
Okay, Rob, that was real.

Speaker 5 (02:39:16):
I didn't know if he was not drunk.

Speaker 7 (02:39:18):
He's not drunk.

Speaker 5 (02:39:19):
No, I think he was busting my chops.

Speaker 7 (02:39:21):
I think I think that was a perfectly executed troll.

Speaker 6 (02:39:25):
I I don't I'm with Conko. I think that I
think that was real, that he's too innocent to be.

Speaker 9 (02:39:34):
I think the game no game listen, I'd love to
laugh at that guy. But me and my dad did
that for a Penguins game one time. We went down
to that bar, you know that had the roast beef
sandwiches next to the Manor garage. And we're cruising down
to seventy nine. We're like, there's no traffic. We're killing it.

Speaker 2 (02:39:51):
We get to the bar like.

Speaker 5 (02:39:52):
Thirty minutes before the game.

Speaker 9 (02:39:53):
We're eating a roast beef sandwich and we asked the
bar and you're like, where is everybody?

Speaker 5 (02:39:56):
They're like, uh, in Columbus where the Blue Jackets are playing.
We had no clue, so we're idiots.

Speaker 7 (02:40:03):
Also, they played a goalie center.

Speaker 5 (02:40:08):
It was difficult to comprehend initially, Like I was trying
to Okay, where's this going?

Speaker 11 (02:40:12):
Is this?

Speaker 7 (02:40:12):
That's why?

Speaker 5 (02:40:14):
Where is there going to be a punchline?

Speaker 1 (02:40:16):
Now?

Speaker 4 (02:40:16):
You can't pay attention to the Steelers football to the
extent that you want to call in a post game
show and not know.

Speaker 5 (02:40:23):
That you can't throw to the guard. Yeah, there was
another guy that called in and it was the Rudolph fumble,
and he wanted to know if Rudolph had landed on
his rectum before losing the ball. And I don't know
if he was setting me up or not, but I
just didn't go there. I don't know why. Yeah, that
seems like he's trying to te you up for one.

(02:40:44):
I don't know if it was a troll. He just
wanted me to say, rct them. He knows.

Speaker 7 (02:40:51):
Get a lot of club, that's what he was doing.

Speaker 5 (02:40:52):
We got a lot of morning show love on the
post game.

Speaker 11 (02:40:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:40:54):
No, and that guy was giving you I heard it
bad that I didn't give it back. But it's just
can't do it on the network. That's different. That's like
mom and dad and grandma are at the table when
it's a Steelers. You can't do morning shows. I think
they want a little personality, but I just wasn't.

Speaker 7 (02:41:10):
You can't.

Speaker 9 (02:41:11):
I don't know they don't want rect them talk. I
don't think ar Rooney's like, yeah, the postgame show's been
missing rectum, just a little more rectim.

Speaker 5 (02:41:20):
Well mean, I didn't bring it up, but you know,
the guy kind of threw me the lob and I
didn't didn't At home.

Speaker 4 (02:41:26):
Now, all right, Look, Josh Allen and the Bills are
looking this weekend to come in here and basically ruin
the Steelers season. They do have a chance, as you
pointed out, Mike, and Rob you did as well. The
Steelers do with a win over the Bills, an AFC opponent,

(02:41:47):
they're right back in it.

Speaker 7 (02:41:48):
Lose this one and it is tough sled and going ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:41:52):
Rob King, Yeah, that's it. I mean, you know again,
I thought they had to win one of the two.
If you could choose one, it would be this game. Now,
you you pretty much attitude, You're you're out of selections.

Speaker 10 (02:42:05):
You got it. You gotta beat the Bills.

Speaker 3 (02:42:06):
You got to find a way to beat them, or
otherwise you're just really you know, otherwise you need help
and you want to be able to sort of be
able to, you know, dictate what's gonna happen with you.

Speaker 10 (02:42:16):
I know, Mike, never control your own destiny. Mike, I
know you don't like that. Control your own fate. I
know you don't like that either. No, but fate, you
can control fate or no, you.

Speaker 5 (02:42:26):
Can control fate, not destiny. But if it's your destiny
is preordained, But isn't fate preordained as well well, because
sometimes you deserve the better fate. There were options.

Speaker 3 (02:42:38):
Yeah, I think we're gonna have to have an etymological
conversation about this, but not now.

Speaker 10 (02:42:42):
Perhaps.

Speaker 3 (02:42:42):
I do think that you know, you listen, you want
to be in a position to to be able to
dictate the outcome of your own season. And the Steelers,
if they beat the Bills, are still in that position.
If they don't beat the Bills, now they've got big problems.

Speaker 7 (02:42:54):
See, I think fate. I think those are synonyms.

Speaker 5 (02:42:57):
I'm staying with I agree. That's my story and I'm
sticking to it.

Speaker 7 (02:43:01):
I know they're both stripper names, so there is that too.

Speaker 5 (02:43:03):
Just one other point about all these other teams that
are all the same, and people watch the Steelers, I
think they get a little Steeler blinders and they think
the rest of the league is operating perfectly and with efficiency.
Our old buddy, my old buddy, Vic Caruccio's been covering
the NFL for one hundred years like I have. He's
working for a TV station in Buffalo now and he
does a little write ups online. Here's what he wrote

(02:43:26):
about the Bills after their loss in Houston in which
Josh Allen got sacked eight times and hit twelve times
on the road. Now, Steelers defense is as good as Houston's,
but it's as good as Houston's rushing. The passer Bill's
O line stinks. They have no receivers. They're terrible on
the road. Vic wrote, quote, the high hopes for this

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team seem a bit lower, but the week to week
nature of the NFL keeps all goals in play. Reaching
them might be more challenging than expected.

Speaker 10 (02:43:57):
That's that's for.

Speaker 5 (02:43:58):
Every team in the league. Man, Yep, it's got to
let a playout.

Speaker 11 (02:44:01):
Well.

Speaker 4 (02:44:01):
You'll hear Rob King along with Max Starks and Missy
Matthews this coming Sunday, the four to twenty five kickoff
at Akrosher Stadium for Steelers Bills right here on your
radio Home of the Black and Gold one or two
point five DV King or thanks so much for your
time this morning.

Speaker 7 (02:44:15):
Appreciate it, buddy.

Speaker 4 (02:44:16):
Thanks to Tim Benz for joining us earlier, and Jerry
Dulac as well tomorrow on the show Chot it Back,
Jean Sterrator, Billy.

Speaker 7 (02:44:22):
Gardell, and Steve Burne.

Speaker 4 (02:44:25):
And then we'll be off on Wednesday for the Thanksgiving holiday,
So tune in tomorrow and hear us half ass it
all the way to Turkey Day. Michelle's up next with
the Electric Lunch at noon. Have a great day, everybody.

Speaker 5 (02:44:35):
I'm finishing you say, classy Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (02:44:38):
Don't touch your face?

Speaker 8 (02:44:39):
He cut him time Peaks, Mark Hockday, Davy, But.

Speaker 2 (02:44:42):
Now you gotta call me Ronald?

Speaker 6 (02:44:43):
Would you not eat my pants?

Speaker 2 (02:44:44):
Ronald?

Speaker 10 (02:44:47):
Who?

Speaker 19 (02:44:49):
Mer Way?

Speaker 5 (02:44:51):
Google it.

Speaker 24 (02:44:55):
It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought
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Speaker 25 (02:45:07):
The Steelers fell to the Chicago Bears yesterday afternoon in Chicago,
a loss that drops the team to six and five
on the season. Steeers backup quarterback Mason Rudolph started in
place of injured quarterback Aaron Rodgers and played okay, but
did throw an interception on his first pass of the game,
which the Bears offense was able to turn into the
game's opening touchdown. And that was really the story of
the game in Chicago, as the Steelers turned the ball

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over two times and were stopped on fourth down once
and in all instances the Bears offense went on to
capitalize with touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (02:45:35):
It was a big afternoon for Bears quarterback Caleb Williams.

Speaker 25 (02:45:38):
He threw for two hundred and thirty nine yards on
nineteen of thirty five passing and tossed three touchdown passes, two.

Speaker 5 (02:45:43):
Of them to wide receiver DJ Moore, making matters worse.

Speaker 25 (02:45:47):
A Raven's victory over the Jets Sunday afternoon means Baltimore
has taken over first place in the AFC North from
the Steelers thanks to having a better division record.

Speaker 5 (02:45:56):
Steelers tried to turn.

Speaker 25 (02:45:57):
The page as they welcome to Buffalo Bills to town
next week week atal Opfermann with the Steelers report.

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