December 1, 2025 • 45 mins
Tim Benz does not mince words when it comes to his criticisms of the Steelers offense and defense and coaching.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
WDVEE. It's for an I heeart radio station, guaranteed human.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It is the DV morning show, your radio home of
the Pittsburgh Steelers, one on two point five DVE. Normally
a show like this would start off with a highlight
from yesterday's Steelers game. I can on this show, I
can only guess that the powers would be have decided
they're going to spare you from having to relive any
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of that to start your Monday morning after a holiday,
Because why get started by eating something that will make
you sick all day long?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You have leftovers for that, much like listening to.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
A highlight or low light from yesterday's loss to the
Buffalo bills from your Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
This is for your own good.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We're just trying to spare you having to endure the
post traumatic Steelers disorder that is twenty six to seven
Buffalo bills over Mike Tomlin's Pittsburgh Steelers at home Akroser
Stadium after a holiday. People extended their Thanksgiving holiday to
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stay and see their beloved Steelers one time this year,
and they may never want to see them again. I
don't want to be all hyperbolic or anything. I like
Mike Tomlin. I think he's a good guy, and I
think he has good coaching qualities, but it kind of
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feels like the game has passed them by, not in
an old, daughtered kind of way, in a rocking chair,
going well, when we invented the forwood pass, that's what
we want to I mean, somewhere after he lost all
of the coaching that was so heralded around him, that
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Dick Lebow type stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
As he turned to people that he was familiar with
and comfortable with, and the Keith Butlers and Randy Fiekner's
and even we'll go Todd Haley, Matt Canada.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
You know, like, how dare you? There is no way that.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Our defensive coordinator will get a job anywhere else in
the league. It's crazy to me that he has constantly
put out this mediocre product for this long and some
of us me included, because it wasn't until last year
where I started to think, like, you know, maybe this
isn't working. I love Mike Tomlind, but maybe this isn't working.
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It's really just banging your head against the wall year
after year. And I like the guy, I do, but
I can't see the Steelers' powers that be wanting to
look at this year after year. It's not that you
lost to the Bills, Josh Allen and company.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It's not that you lost to the Bears.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Ben Johnson, upstart coach, a guy I would have loved
to have him and Mike Rable were the two guys
I would have loved to have built this organization's future around.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's not that you lose to those two teams, or that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You lose to the Bengals the first time you face
them three days after Flacco Donze Bengals Jersey for the
first time. It's how you lose every time and their
self inflicted wounds with a narrow path to victory that
he carves out because that's how he thinks you should win.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And it all relies on these big splash plays happening,
and they've got a avia every game. Well, even when
you get the big splash plays, it doesn't always mean
that you're going to be able to capitalize on it.
I mean, miss Steelers had a couple of big plays.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Early gets a snap back to pass looking right on
a little cross and is it intercepted. It's picked off somehow,
some way for Hinton Eckles came away with.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The interception, all right, didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
That one her big uh Warren's touchdown.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
End of exciting plays in the game.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
That was the biggest. Patrick Queen had a fumble recovery
after that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean, they had a couple of quick turnovers, the
difference being when the Bills got their quick turnovers in
the second half. They turned one into points immediately on
that play that knocked Aaron Rodgers out, and the other
one the interception from Mason. They I think it was
like eight plays later, are in the end zone again,
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and all of a sudden, the Steelers went from leading
the game at halftime seven to three to being down
sixteen to seven.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They had three yards total in the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Arthur Smith lays another egg in the third quarters.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
It's just not fun to watch.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
That was my biggest complaint is that even in the past,
where maybe you get a second half where they're like
grinding it out at the minimum, at the at least,
it's not boring. Now it's the second half is also
it's dreadfully boring.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Nothing happens because nothing changes.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
They were very limited with what Aaron Rodgers could do.
He was in pistol just about the entire game, and
you know, there's only so much you can do back there.
And if you want to run the ball, they're gonna
be six yards deep in the end, behind the line
of scrimmage at that point, so you're already starting an
uphill battle.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You know, they should just be looking at it like, oh,
well you're running downhill from that formation.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I know.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They didn't run the ball effectively at all. They didn't
throw the ball effectively at all. Total yardede yesterday one
hundred and sixty six for the Steelers, three hundred and.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Seventy two for the Bills.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Mike Tomlin said at halftime, Yeah, we got to run
the ball better, and then they went out and threw
right away and burped it up. Time of possession was laughable.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I had to refresh my screen a bunch of times
because I kept thinking, like, well, when are they They've
got to update it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, it feels like this, but it can't be right.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It was basically forty two to eighteen. Yeah, Bills had
the ball for forty two minutes yesterday.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Cam Hayward was pissed after the game. I mean, everyone's pissed.
All the Steelers fans were pissed. Mike Tomlin made Steelers
fans boo, renegade. Mike's gonna come in here and go well, no, no, no, no.
The players did okay, but it's clear when TJ.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Watt is screaming at him on the sidelines that there's
something a little too antiquated about the defense of schromatics
that they employ week in and week out that is
keeping them from being competitive, because with all the money
they spent on those big name players, they absolutely stink
on defense. Just in offens It's like Arthur Smith is
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the offensive version of Mike Tomlin in that this is
how we're gonna do it, and if we do this perfect,
there's a narrow path to win. It's like a guy
leading you into war and he's like, all right, see
that rickety bridge over there.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
All right, we're gonna have to be very careful.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
But if we can get across that rickety bridge and
it doesn't fall down after we get all the troops
over there, we can get to the other side and
get back to camp and say, and people like, you know,
we could.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Just take the car and go the other way, sir.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
No, no, no, no, this is how we do it.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
They're unnecessarily narrow minded. And Aaron Rodgers throwing Johnny Smith
under the bus after the game last night, let you
know where he is now.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
He deserved to get thrown under the bus.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I'm actually okay with what he said, which was basically like, yeah,
when I checked to a different route, you got to
run that route and I checked it inside, Johnny ran
outside and he's a pro, so he's gonna feel sick
about that. But don't think that didn't piss off Johnny Smith.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
But I also heard Aaron kind of throwing that maybe
people aren't coming to film study either.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, come to film study, come to you know, meetings
on time. So it sounds like there's a little discord
in the ranks once again. But that also goes back
to coaching.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
You have to find, okay, what is then coming down
from the top.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
The players don't think they have to do that.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, well they got rid of George Picketts because they
thought he was a disciplined problem.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And DK Metcalf takes stupid penalties every game and he
might be the one that Aaron Rodgers is talking about.
We don't even know, Mike will come in and make
some more sense of it. Yesterday, you know, I really
thought after that first half, like, we can beat these guys,
and the utter collapse that was the second half of
that game, because I thought they played terrible in the
first half and they were still winning and they were
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getting the ball to start the second half, and I thought, well,
they'll turn it around now. And of course, because that's
what they always do, right.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Sure they never do what actually they don't.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Why do I think they're gonna do that.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Second game in a row that I had nothing to
say positive about a third quarter, like where I normally
take notes of, like, you know, the things I want
to remember that went well, went right?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
What went wrong?
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Second game in a row, I had nothing to try
about what went right in the third quarter and then
fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I don't think I had anything either.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
I'm like, all right, well, bedtime time for some nightmares.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Pumpkin Pie is still good.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Mike Tomlin heard Steeler fans calling for him to be fired, and.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
He definitely heard it. First question, he dodged like he
didn't want to dress. At second question, he was like,
you know, I'm frustrated too.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's like, ah, frustration.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Patrick Queen was sniping back and forth with former Steeler
tree Essex on Twitter last night. It was a bad
look for the Steelers organization once again. I don't know
how you re up for this in the future. If
you're Art Rooney, how do you say, Yep, this is
how I want to do business. This is not a
matter of personnel. It's it's not I know they didn't
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have their left tackle, who they have no faith in
and don't like at all but the whole season yet,
but that should not have had any effect on what
yesterday was yet again an inability to use Jalen Warren
as effectively as they're capable of doing.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
They were just bad.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
They get beat on the line of scrimmage on both
sides of the ball. They got out tuffed. They're soft,
and that's why people were chanting fire Mike Tomlin in
Akroshuer Stadium, and that's why they booed renegade. They freaking
booed renegade bad.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You have to piss off Steeler fans to get them
to boost sticks.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
You've got to blow it on fourth down at the flight.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I think with the worst ever, I think you have
to do that or third and eight check into a
candy gainwell run, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
And then Aaron Rodgers response is what if it would
have made it? You guys wouldn't have been saying that.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's like, yeah, correct if some butts with candy and nuts,
my aunt would be my uncle.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
All right, Abby's got a news that day for you.
What's going on? We're talking about happy stuff? Okay, how
was your Thanksgiving? Was it lovely?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So relaxing?
Speaker 7 (11:35):
That's all around the table, and we talked about how
much we loved new drugs.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Did you do that we actually did do?
Speaker 9 (11:40):
That?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Is that's so cute. I wish we'd uh, I knew
enough people at the table. I was out to say that,
oh cute. You didn't have to be like a name
tag a man like uh.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Mary, Yes, no, did you.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You had to meet people at Thanksgiving?
Speaker 7 (11:56):
You had new new uh new significant others, new and
new people.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, that happens sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, we had Yeah, my sister brought her new uh
a boyfriend. And these are grown adults, folks, so it's
you know, it's it does sound weird.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
She was playing with their hair the whole time. Yeah,
now gave me his Pinda wear. He had a dog
that was very cool and yeah, so you know, but
just the stress of everything.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know, it always is like that mom gets drunk.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And then who's going to take mom home?
Speaker 7 (12:29):
You know a lot of that, But I do like
when moms get drunk.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Man, I'm into it.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, she just kept telling me I look terrible. So
that's a mom special though, Mom moral Scott, she had
the worst. I looked at her. Honey, you're not sleeping.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh you look day two she goes, well, you look
like you slept a little bit, but still not enough.
I'm like, okay, Mom, well let me know when I
conformed to your beauty standards. Great seeing you too.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I can't crush ten while you're here, mom.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And then three I like, you know, Sunday scaries texts
for from her, you know, on a Friday.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Oh did I go too far? I hope you don't.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Oh geez, I didn't mean it like that. Oh, I'm
just worried my mom becames in the Irish Canadian.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well I like that.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
My mom tells me I look terrible when I think
I look good, and then tells me I look good
when I know I look terrible because she's trying to apologize. Yeah,
and then it doesn't work. Yeah, it's just a mom thing.
They think they can get away with it. Yeah, but
you know what I store it. I remember you. When
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it's time to pick a home, I'll remember.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
That's the way to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Is always threatened them with their you know, the conditions
of their demise, like remember, I am the person in
charge of your exit.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, you know, when we, like I said, we all
had to we had a piece of paper in front
of us.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
My aunt hosted for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
We had a piece of paper in front of us
where we had to write one word for every person
that was at Thanksgiving, okay, and then you would go
around and then we'd start with each person. We'd be
like okay, Jane, and then everybody would have to say
the word that they had for that person.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I mean, like we had too many My in laws
extended family were that we had like twenty five people.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
So okay, we had fourteen Okay, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
People, but you knew each other. There's like a boyfriend
of a person that I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
And no, we all knew each other very well. And
so and this is like my tight knit family. That's
adorable Mom's side of the family. But yes, I would
like to pat myself on the back for coming up
with the word assertive for my mother.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
That was the word you give her on Thanksgiving, Go
get her assertive.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
She got other words like.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You put the ass in assertive, mom bold.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
She kept saying things like I was taking too long
and I said, carefuler.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'm going to come up with two words for you.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Good for you, down man.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Speaking of Thanksgiving with news this hour brought to you
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Speaker 3 (15:05):
Cloudy and cold today. It's a high of thirty five.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
There's going to be snow on and off tonight, accumulation
of accoding to an inch, so watch.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Out for slappery roads.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
How is your fridge looking if it's still a game
of Tetris? Tonight's meal should probably be a Thanksgiving leftover buffet.
It's been four days since Thanksgiving, so technically today is
your last day to eat your leftovers before.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
They go bad.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I'm going out with a bang.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh really, okay, I want to tell you you'd been
proud of me. My brother was like he's very much
like he is the Thanksgiving chef. So he's got these
amazing turkey breasts he's done and he's ripped them off
the carcass and everything, and he's like, gonna get rid
of the carcass.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I'm like, there's a lot of meat on there, and
he's like, you want to do it.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
He's like, I've been working my ass off, dude, I
did the best, but if you want to go at it,
I'm like, okay. And then you know, you look at
you like, there's really not that much meat here, but
it looks like there's a ton.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
But if you really work at it, you can get it.
So you know, turned that into carcass soup last night,
as I was calling it, and it was a turkey
white bean kale and had like chopped tomatoes in it, Like,
oh dude, this soup turned out. It was such a banger.
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It was my favorite post Thanksgiving thing I've ever done
with turkey. Even though I know a lot of people
do turkey soup. I've always thought it was like turkey noodle,
but this one, it gave it a little more of
an Italian flare. Yeah, and that was like moving away
from Thanksgiving a little bit on the palette, which I
hadn't done since Thursday because it's all been turkey sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Soeah, because I know, like.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I have friends who are Italian. They're like, oh dude,
the first big Italian meal after Thanksgiving, it's like, you know,
you're getting your life support back.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Red sauce. It's like you're putting the mask back on.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
We had noki at Thanksgiving. I always with red sauce.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Wow, that's the one thing we were talking about, like
the thing at Thanksgiving that should not be, like if
you had to take one thing away, and I remember,
uh we I don't think I got to. You know,
we're always talking and sometimes you know, things don't come
up because things go out of your head. But I
was thinking, I'm like, I know my family's gonna have
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something Italian. It's either stuff shells or knock you or something.
And we forgot.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
To take it out of the oven.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
That's almost just thinking food there was and it's always there.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But like, you know, so I had that to bring home.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
My My big like meal was I took a thing
a turkey and a green bean like kind of castlerole thingy,
but not not too like saturated or anything. And I
remixed it with some better than bollion sauce, all right,
And I made that with like a new fresh thing
of rice.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And I made like a good like semi healthy bowl.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Whatever I gotten rid of, like a good set of
leftovers I still have, like all like the egregious like
comfort pillowy.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Side I have.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I have, Yeah, I have those two. So what do
they say about the timing on all that today is
the last day?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Okay, so it does say According to the USDA, turkey stuffing, potatoes,
sweet potatoes, green beans, gravy, and pumpkin pie can all
be stored in the fridge for three to four days
if you don't want to waste the food you have.
Most leftovers can last a few months in the freezer.
I don't know, guys, I don't just eat it.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
If you have too much turkey, freeze it well, yeah,
I mean no.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
And in your case too, if you're gonna like soup
it up later too, because.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I don't know more carcass soup.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
There's one Thanksgiving staple that will will survive in the
fridge a little longer, though, cranberry sauce.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I was watching my mom eat that yesterday.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I like cranberry sauce, but my sister ruined it this year.
She's like, I'll make it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I make it really good, and then she had like
tons of orange zest in it or something.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I feel like I was eating an orange peel.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
No too much.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
He's like, do you like it?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'm like, pru no shade, but that's a little extra.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I totally agree. I'm like, I want cranberry.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't want to feel like I'm eating a rind
out of the top of the garbage. I'm not sally wigging.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
All the canned stuff can last up to two weeks
in the fridge, so just be careful, don't push anything
with the meat and the dairy products, which is basically
everything unless you're vegan, which you know you probably didn't
have any of the meat anyway, so be careful and
went in doubt.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Throw it out.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
He my brother did three stuffings this year, which was
down one and he did just the regular old you know,
normal normal sized nipples, normal.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Stuff, normal size, and then he did He does this
every year, and it's it's as easy as it sounds
to just add to regular stuffing sausage and pepper stuffing.
It tastes like a sausage in pepper sub that sounds
so good. So and he uses hot turkey sausage in that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I would destroy that.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
It's so good.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
He used to do a shrimp pettufe, but there's too
many shrimp allergies.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Now you mentioned that.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I think I thought you said there was like some
lobster in it or something.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
It was shrimp. Oh that also, I.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Would it really really good. And then he did a
mushroom one with and he put a bunch of morales
in it. This year, it's just stupid.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It was so good.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
No Wonder stressed.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, he was well, he was stressed. He had a
lot going on.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
He was trying to you know, every burner was going
you know what I mean, like my my whole thing
is like, oh, I'll take care of Wednesday night dinner.
Just like try to get one burner on a Wednesday
night when he's prepping.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
It ain't happening.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
I came with my root vegetables like ready to go
in the crock pot, like I timed it so that
they were warm enough. I had the crockpot already on
warm so that they would like kind of shup, like
ready to go.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
It can just like plug it in or whatever.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
But I remember in past years like and you just
never ever do it, Like when you show up to
somebody's house for Thanksgiving and go, can I get a
little oven space?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's like do you walk like.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Or you couldn't exactly, Yes, you have to have that pot.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
You need to come prepared, self contained.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That is, somebody showed up this year and wanted a
little oven space and it was for something that nobody
was going to eat. And you know, it was one
of those progredging like sure, won don't you uh shoot,
you can do open it up.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
To bang my wife exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Oh you want some oven space? Well who left for you?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It was very tense, you know what it was the
weather because we got destroyed up in the ear the lake.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
The sea was angry, my.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Friend, just like Las fans forty mile an hour winds
that looked like that.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, So it was. It was brutal up there.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And they got a few inches of snow, but nothing
like last year when the entire he shut down with
a thirty inch snowstorm that dropped him the course of
about seven hours. Remember I barely got out of there.
Next I did my record release on the Friday of
Thanksgiving weekend last year. I do remember that, and I
barely got out of there. Then this time it wasn't
so bad.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But oh, your record's a year old.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The record is a year old, that's right. And today
is my DVE anniversary.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
What a fun little banner hanging day for you, mister Balmant.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I want to thank Abby, who, by the way, remembered
today was my DVE anniversary. On this day in nineteen
ninety nine, I started on the morning show while Paulson
was still here as a matter of fact, and because
he wasn't leaving until the end of December, and I
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had to pretend I was an intern until they announced
it the week before Christmas. Wow, and everybody was just like,
who's this idiot? And then they were treating me like
an intern the whole time. And then when it was
announced that I was actually taking the job from Scott,
one of the people on staff goes, man, I would
hate to be.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You, and I was like, huh.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And then one of the people on the show said
it's not gonna last. I'm like, what did I sign
up for anyways? Fool them all? So Abby says, I
come it this morning and there's a lovely note waiting
for me, Happy twenty sixth anniversary DV aniversary because she
overheard me talking about it was somebody a week ago
and remembered, of course, and clocked it and got me
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a little gift.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I turn over the.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Note and it is a bumper sticker with a picture
of Gordon Lightfoot playing the guitar, and it says, stop honking,
I'm crying to the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by
Gordon Lightfoot. We should put a Gordon Lightfoot together about
the wreck that is the Steelers. Matter of fact, we'll
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have to do that for tomorrow, because good Lord, what
has happened?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
And Ben's Jerry Doulac rob king mister Wednesday on a Monday,
Jeff Conko will be joining us here shortly live from
the Donz applying ache on things yesterday, because usually he
comes in and tells me what he thinks I got wrong.
In the opening salvo here as we recount twenty three
seven Steelers lose to the Bills yesterday.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
Sports is Up brought to you by Bridgeville.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I'm sorry twenty six seven. I forgot about that last
field goal.
Speaker 12 (24:26):
After another awful performance and another awful result, Aaron Rodgers
found a way to make it sound and seem even
worse when asked how he and his would be pass
catchers could get better in the way of Bill's twenty
six Steelers seven.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
When there's film sessions, everybody shows up. And when I
checked through a route, you do the right route, you know,
like John and I just were on same page. I
checked to his inbreaker and he ran outbreaker. You know,
(25:02):
I'm Johonnah's a true professionals. I'm sure he's you know,
he's sick, sick about that. But you know, I threw
all I thought was going to get it by the
wind and he was four yards over Roman, so I
got to make that throw. But you know, we have
our meetings every week, we have other opportunities outside of
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the facility and look forward to seeing all the boys there.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So my take on that was the person who isn't
going must be John Hu because he felt comfortable using
his name. Now, if it isn't, we'ren't even worse shape,
because that means there's one more guy who doesn't know
what's going on.
Speaker 12 (25:44):
Yeah, I was trying to figure out if he was
talking about during the workday stuff or extra stuff outside
of the facility. Well that and I'm guessing it's the ladder.
But I'm not sure that they're not going above Mionta.
I mean, if guy aren't showing up from nine to five,
so to speak, Yeah, you know, that's a huge issue.
(26:07):
If it's something, hey, let's get together tonight and go
over some stuff and somebody doesn't show, that's maybe an
indication somebody's not willing to go.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
The extra mile.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I mean, I can't imagine DK's really happy right now,
and he's certainly acting out constantly week and the week
out on the field. I mean, he's got to be
leading the team in penalties right now, right.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah, that's kind of who he is.
Speaker 12 (26:28):
The sort of knew that coming in seven points for
the Steelers, their fewest since Week four, twenty twenty three
at Houston when they got six that was on the
way to Matt Canada's last stand. That's where they are offensively,
and the biggest issue, just ahead of not being able
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to run the ball against a horrifically bad run defense,
was deciding that Yeah, Aaron Rodgers can play, but he
can't take a snap on the side. I couldn't, so
he's going to be in shotgun all day. That that
is as confounding and a decision is the one they
made in uh Los Angeles against the Chargers when Siamala
couldn't play. So they said, well, let's play Anders Peede
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at guard and keep Spencer Anderson eligible to be the
extra tight end, but we'll also play him at guard,
and we have to make those guys come in and
out because Anderson can't go from extra tight end back
to guard, so he's got to come out for a
play and then we'll go back into guard after play.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
And that was just a mess.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
The coaching is abysmal right now. The decision making is
an absolute disaster.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
It was yesterday. You know what. That's beating yourself before
you get started.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well, how about the fourth and two call?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, well, you know you could have got back into
the game. There you're bagging by a threat, but you
score a touchdown on a two point version.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
You're one of your touchdown version away. Right.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
I don't know they you know, they'd run the ball
ineffectively all day and they passed it to get down there,
and they decided to put it in Kenny Gagwell's hands instead.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Of Rogers and the aline spencer. Anderson out as a
slot receiver on that play. You know, he's like out
off the right tackle.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I don't know, he's a diversion of what the hell
he was there all he motioned.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
The bigger issue with it to me was you had
Johnny Smith was an inside tight end and mount Washington
was an outside tight end. Uh, And they relied on
Johnny Smith to make a block and.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Mount Washington was wide open for He's like one on
one with a guy who's not going to tackle all that.
Speaker 12 (28:42):
Or if you're determined to run it, maybe he should
be blocking.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah, I don't understand a lot of the decision making yesterday.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
It was confounding.
Speaker 12 (28:53):
On the defensive side. They gave up two hundred and
forty nine rushing yards. Nowuffo did have the number one
rushing team in the NFL, but Buffalo, like Pittsburgh, has
really no receivers that scare anybody. And Buffalo had no
starting offensive tackles available. And you knew Buffalo wasn't really
going to throw the ball much, and it didn't and
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the Steelers still gave up two hundred and forty nine
nursing yards, which were the most by a road team
in Pittsburgh since Week two, nineteen seventy five, when the
Buffalo Bills gained three ten two hundred and twenty seven
of those by a guy named O. J.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Simpson.
Speaker 13 (29:34):
T J.
Speaker 12 (29:35):
Watt had a hard time putting that into context.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
I mean, I've never seen a team run the same
play as much as they ran tonight, and now as
much success as they had.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I mean, I'm a lout of words for it.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Rumo kept saying, it is thick. They're running it again.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
I thought it was three or four plays, and Charlie
agreed with me on the post game three or four runs,
that's all they did.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Apparently it was less than that.
Speaker 12 (29:59):
You know, to change the formation, yeah, run, change the personnel,
run the same play.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, that's not schematics. You know what's coming and you
can't stop it.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Well, maybe having a little help up there instead of
twenty yards offull on of scrimmage. I mean, you know,
you know, stop it. They can't, Mike, they can't and
it here's the really confounding part.
Speaker 12 (30:30):
They did a great job against the Bears, who were
the number two rushing team in the league, on the
road in Chicago, stopping the run. They had the players
to do it, they had the schematics to do it.
Did you see what the Bears did to Philly?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (30:42):
Running the ball just ran right through them. So, okay,
that was pretty good. They stopped Jonathan Taylor, who is
maybe the best back in the league.
Speaker 11 (30:49):
That's pretty good. How do you go from that to
what we saw.
Speaker 12 (30:52):
Yesterday or Austin? I don't know what else to tell you.
I don't have an answer for that, because.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
There are time.
Speaker 12 (31:01):
To me, there are times when the players are fine,
and there are times when the schematics are fine, and
there are times like yesterday where they're just off the
charts awful.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Well, Derek Harmon not being there certainly hurt them, no question, but.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
He won't be that bad.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Can't be one guy.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
We're gonna have Tim Benz join the fray when we
come back. Abby, you'll have your news at the top.
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Speaker 8 (32:52):
They booed Renegade, they booed Rent. No cheering, they're booing
Rand good Lord after the stop for yes, good good
call there. Well, that's what I'm saying. That was renegade.
Speaker 11 (33:09):
It was just got stuff. The game's over.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yeah, you got to read the room on that one.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Tim Benz joining us right now, brought to you by
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Tim Ben's Benz Uh, I never heard Renegade get booed before,
but I also agreed with the booing. I guess the
first thing I want to ask you about is do
you think the Steelers made a mistake putting Aaron Rodgers
behind center with that much limited ability with the cast
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on the left hand and being unable to get under center.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Hold on one second, now, you're good.
Speaker 14 (33:45):
Well, based on how poor Mason Rudolph was when he
got in there, I guess no, because you're right.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
By the way.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
I want to hear Michelle Michaels open up the Electric
Lunch today by playing Renegade and then just playing a soundtrack.
Speaker 13 (34:00):
Of people booing underneath it. I think that would be
poetic justice to what we heard yesterday.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It was it was a dark day yesterday, a dark,
dark day.
Speaker 14 (34:11):
And the fire Tomlin Chance, where were you in the
stadium range?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I actually didn't go yesterday. I got back from Thanksgiving
vacation a little late and watched. I watched it from
my couch and Jacob, you said you heard those the
booing pretty soundly in your section.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I was talking about it with Abby before we went
on air, and I said the same thing that you did.
I said, read the room. Yeah, I mean, like Mike said,
it was after that fourth down stop that could they
could have governed an offense. No one was in a
cheerful mood. No I was.
Speaker 14 (34:43):
I was in the line to get into the locker
room afterwards, and there was a couple of bills personnel
trickling down from the press box and one of the
I don't have no idea who it was, but one
of the members of the Bill's PERSONNELA is walking behind us,
said to another guy.
Speaker 9 (34:59):
It gave me chills when they started to boo renegade.
Speaker 14 (35:04):
So like the sideline for the Bills obviously got a
jolt out, as if they needed one based on the
way the Steelers are performing, But they got a jolt
out of the fact that.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
The crowd had turned ugly against their own team yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Well, I think we all understand why. I mean, where
do you lay the first line of culpability?
Speaker 14 (35:26):
Well, this is a gross oversimplification, but I'll use it anyway.
I think the players on defense deserve blame for how
they played. I think the players on offense were victims
of how poorly they were coached. And that's letting the
offensive players off the hook too much. I get it
they stunk too, but it just jumps out at me
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how bad the players are on defense. For the way
you guys talked about it in the six thirty Sports cast,
the quotes from TJ.
Speaker 13 (35:56):
Watt, the quotes from Peyton Wilson.
Speaker 14 (35:59):
You know, I asked Peyton Wilson, were they doing anything
different in the run game, because I.
Speaker 13 (36:03):
Know you guys are preparing for all week, And he
said no, they.
Speaker 14 (36:06):
Every run that popped, the coaches told us about, the
coach has warned us about. We worked against it all week,
and yet it still happened.
Speaker 9 (36:15):
So to me, that's on the players.
Speaker 14 (36:18):
Running on third and seven, running on fourth and to
some of the things they tried to do on offense,
or some of the things they.
Speaker 13 (36:26):
Avoided trying to do on offense.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
That was more scheme.
Speaker 14 (36:30):
But you know, then again, Mason didn't make throws, Rogers
didn't make throws, and the guys upfront didn't block en up.
Speaker 13 (36:36):
So it was a.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Disaster all It was a disaster all around. I was
hoping Mason would be the spark they needed.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
He immediately threw one at DK's feet and then of
course the interception that wasn't good.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Iunt Washington.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's hard to do, no question, but I thought that
it would have been nice if they would have seen
Aaron Rodgers at practice this week, and then thought, you know,
maybe we should run Mason with it, just a small
select package with package with the ones right now, so
we can change it up if Aaron doesn't end up
finishing this game, because you know, you had the advantage
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of having a guy with two good risks coming in there.
But you'd only game plan for the guy with one
bad one, so you can still only trot out the
same stuff that wasn't working.
Speaker 14 (37:24):
Well, the funny thing is, like I don't remember this
wave of complaints or concerns covering Ben Roethlisberger for all
those years where they could only do one thing that
they game plan for. I seem to remember a chunk
of about nineteen years there where if something wasn't working,
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they pivoted to something else. And you know, whether it's
been Rogers or Fields, or Kenny Pickett or Mitch Trubisky
or Russell Wilson, by the way, is going to the
Hall of Fame too. Ever, since Ben has left, they've
acted like they can only do one thing, one thing,
and one thing only going into any game.
Speaker 9 (38:07):
And should that not work, oh well we lose, you know,
like that.
Speaker 14 (38:12):
They should be more malleable than that, shouldn't they?
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I mean, yes, on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Yeah, well I think guess said they weren't because of
the hand thing.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Okay, well then he shouldn't be playing right.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
For two series one, series three plays, I'm three plays.
Speaker 14 (38:32):
If they can't see then how limiting their limited playbook
is because of Rogers being in there, they have to
admit that they've made a mistake and take him out there.
Speaker 9 (38:40):
But God forbid that they ever.
Speaker 13 (38:42):
Admit that they make a mistake.
Speaker 14 (38:43):
I mean, like if I can't remember how many plays
into the game it was, but it wasn't many.
Speaker 13 (38:48):
It might have been the second series.
Speaker 14 (38:49):
But when they had that play where they wanted to
run right and they felt like the easiest way to
do that was for Rogers to kind of turn around
and throw it backwards instead of pitching or handing off
with his left hand, Like that had to be an
indication of Okay, we're going so far down the well
to protect against this, then he shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 9 (39:10):
You know, you get the report that comes out.
Speaker 14 (39:12):
And by the way, I had somebody else corroborate that
Ian Rappaport report about the one really bad break and
then the two other little breaks. Somebody else told me
that same thing right before kickoffs. And if it's that bad,
then just say he's injured, you know, Like it's not
as if this offense is so advanced that the Bills.
Speaker 9 (39:33):
Were been quaking in their boots if they knew, oh
my god.
Speaker 13 (39:35):
We're preparing for Aaron Rodgers instead of.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
Mason Rudolph, Like I didn't think the game plan.
Speaker 14 (39:40):
Itself looked all that vastly different between the two weeks.
Speaker 13 (39:43):
Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
That?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Could?
Speaker 5 (39:45):
They weren't on the field long enough for me to
tell what the hell was.
Speaker 12 (39:50):
That's second second series Rogers as a one on one
the Roman Wilson he missed it, and he missed it bad,
and then he said, oh, I was he worried about
the win.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
Like I'm sorry he got to hit that.
Speaker 12 (40:03):
I watched Carolina in the Rams yesterday and Carolina had
two fourth and shorts.
Speaker 11 (40:08):
And went one on one deep on both of them
town and score touchdowns, Like you gotta.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Play Pryce Young threw a perfect ball.
Speaker 12 (40:15):
Big boy football, and if you can't, you lose, and
they can't break.
Speaker 14 (40:19):
Now Rogers is really, really good, and I've started to
watch him when things go wrong on the field, Like
he's great in the locker room and saying, you.
Speaker 13 (40:28):
Know, I got to make that throw. I gotta do better.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
But he's also real good at pointing out what everybody
else doesn't do, and like the best play of the
game might have been that crazy one handy catch that
Gadewell made and stayed in his ride and picked up
seventeen yards. But even on that play, I watched Rogers afterwards,
and when he threw it, he was like pointing at
the turf or looking it look like he slipped or
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something on the delivery.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
There's always something.
Speaker 13 (40:54):
It's always somebody else.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
He's thrown that ball to him all year.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
He has been throwing that go get them ball on
the checkdown non stop.
Speaker 14 (41:05):
And that was that was almost as blatantly bad as
the Rogers skipped to DK.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
It's just that.
Speaker 9 (41:10):
Gainwell bailed him out.
Speaker 14 (41:13):
Now, he couldn't bail him out twice when they decided
to run on pivoting situations. Once on third and seven, sorry,
third and eight he got seven, and then on the
fourth and two, and then Rogers got all snippy in
the post game when someone had the temerity to ask
him about it.
Speaker 13 (41:29):
Well, I mean, I think that's a.
Speaker 14 (41:30):
Very worth So he's mad that the question was asked
because Gainwell didn't get an extra yard.
Speaker 9 (41:35):
You know why I didn't get an extra.
Speaker 14 (41:36):
Yard, Aaron, Because running on third and eight is pretty
far right. That's why I mean, it's a legit question,
and he wants to grouse and grumble at it.
Speaker 9 (41:45):
You know. I guess it's hard for.
Speaker 14 (41:47):
Me to say I'm over him because I was never
really on board with him, But I gave it some
latitude because they were playing well early and I was
willing to see how far down it could go into
the season. And I guess I have my answer. You know,
somewhere around Thanksgiving, it just fell off the rails.
Speaker 12 (42:02):
I mean, they hit a low yesterday that we haven't
seen since Kenny Picking in mac Canada.
Speaker 9 (42:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (42:09):
I mean, I never thought it would get to the
point where we longed for Matt Canada.
Speaker 13 (42:13):
And maybe I'm still not. I'm feeling similar. I'm feeling
similar to what it was.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
Uh, there's just no answers.
Speaker 13 (42:19):
You know.
Speaker 14 (42:19):
Somebody asked me once, uh And when I say once,
like last week after the Chicago game, what's really the
difference between Arthur Smith and Matt Canada? And I said,
better World War Two analogies, And that's basically about it.
He's got he's got he's got pithier sound bites, and
he's better at, you know, engaging us and talking about
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why he's doing what he's doing. But the results are
painfully similar. And that's what this team is. They are painfully,
painfully average in a league that's built to be average,
and they are constantly positioned as being something better and
something above that they are not.
Speaker 9 (42:59):
They are the definition.
Speaker 13 (43:01):
Of NFL mediocrety right now.
Speaker 14 (43:02):
A team that can, like you said, Mike and the
previous sports cast, they can hold the second best rush
team in football to ninety nine yards and then the
go up against the best rush team in football and give.
Speaker 13 (43:13):
Up two forty nine at home.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
When you found out when you found out their tackles
weren't playing this week, that's when every Steeler fan knew,
while we're in trouble, which were in trouble, Yeah, we
can't take advantage of this.
Speaker 14 (43:27):
That's especially true for the pass rush because I'm at
the point now when I hear that the other team
has this guy out and that guy out along the
offensive line, that that offensive tackle stinks, and boy Tech
is gonna eat with three sacks this week, I know
it's going to go exactly the opposite. Because the myth
of what the Steelers pass rush is still spooks opposing
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team offensive coordinators to just leave everybody in They Chip
the double, and Watt has no prayer of getting home.
He can't make the play himself, and nobody else can
make a play on the other side often enough.
Speaker 9 (43:57):
I mean, like, I get it.
Speaker 14 (43:59):
They only threw ball twenty three times, but they went
from eight sacks against to none.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Come on, well they missed four.
Speaker 8 (44:07):
Yeah, he's a hard guy to bring down. They didn't
get a to grow fair enough.
Speaker 9 (44:10):
Tim.
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Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 16 (44:28):
The Steelers were blown out by the Bill Sunday at
Akrostro Stadium twenty six to seven, in a game where
they only gained one hundred and sixty six yards of
total offense and lost the time of possession battle to
Buffalo forty one minutes and fifty nine seconds to eighteen
oh one. Pittsburgh actually had the lead coming out of
halftime seven to three and started the second half of
the game with the ball. From the very first play
of their possession, Bill's addresher Joey Bosa demolished Aaron Rodgers,
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knocking the ball loose and Bill's corner Christian Benfort scooped
it up for the touchdown to give the Bills the lead,
and it all snowball downhill from there for the Steelers.
The factor in the Bill's success Sunday was their rushing offense,
which was the best in the league heading into the game,
and it showed.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Buffalo gashed the Steelers for a total of two.
Speaker 16 (45:07):
Hundred and forty nine yards on the ground and an
average of four point nine yards per carry. Leading the
way was running back James Cook, who had his league
leading seven to one hundred yard rushing performance on the
season as he ran for one hundred and forty four
yards on thirty two carries against the Steelers, and the
Bills improved to six to one on the year in
the games that Cook eclipsed the one hundred yards on
the ground. The Steelers now try to bounce back from
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two straight losses as they traveled to Baltimore to take
on the six and six Ravens for control of the
AFC North.
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You have leftovers for that, much like listening to.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
A highlight or low light from yesterday's loss to the
Buffalo bills from your Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
This is for your own good.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We're just trying to spare you having to endure the
post traumatic Steelers disorder that is twenty six to seven
Buffalo bills over Mike Tomlin's Pittsburgh Steelers at home Akroser
Stadium after a holiday. People extended their Thanksgiving holiday to
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stay and see their beloved Steelers one time this year,
and they may never want to see them again. I
don't want to be all hyperbolic or anything. I like
Mike Tomlin. I think he's a good guy, and I
think he has good coaching qualities, but it kind of
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feels like the game has passed them by, not in
an old, daughtered kind of way, in a rocking chair,
going well, when we invented the forwood pass, that's what
we want to I mean, somewhere after he lost all
of the coaching that was so heralded around him, that
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Dick Lebow type stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
As he turned to people that he was familiar with
and comfortable with, and the Keith Butlers and Randy Fiekner's
and even we'll go Todd Haley, Matt Canada.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
You know, like, how dare you? There is no way that.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Our defensive coordinator will get a job anywhere else in
the league. It's crazy to me that he has constantly
put out this mediocre product for this long and some
of us me included, because it wasn't until last year
where I started to think, like, you know, maybe this
isn't working. I love Mike Tomlind, but maybe this isn't working.
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It's really just banging your head against the wall year
after year. And I like the guy, I do, but
I can't see the Steelers' powers that be wanting to
look at this year after year. It's not that you
lost to the Bills, Josh Allen and company.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It's not that you lost to the Bears.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Ben Johnson, upstart coach, a guy I would have loved
to have him and Mike Rable were the two guys
I would have loved to have built this organization's future around.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's not that you lose to those two teams, or that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You lose to the Bengals the first time you face
them three days after Flacco Donze Bengals Jersey for the
first time. It's how you lose every time and their
self inflicted wounds with a narrow path to victory that
he carves out because that's how he thinks you should win.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And it all relies on these big splash plays happening,
and they've got a avia every game. Well, even when
you get the big splash plays, it doesn't always mean
that you're going to be able to capitalize on it.
I mean, miss Steelers had a couple of big plays.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Early gets a snap back to pass looking right on
a little cross and is it intercepted. It's picked off somehow,
some way for Hinton Eckles came away with.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The interception, all right, didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
That one her big uh Warren's touchdown.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
End of exciting plays in the game.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
That was the biggest. Patrick Queen had a fumble recovery
after that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I mean, they had a couple of quick turnovers, the
difference being when the Bills got their quick turnovers in
the second half. They turned one into points immediately on
that play that knocked Aaron Rodgers out, and the other
one the interception from Mason. They I think it was
like eight plays later, are in the end zone again,
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and all of a sudden, the Steelers went from leading
the game at halftime seven to three to being down
sixteen to seven.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They had three yards total in the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Arthur Smith lays another egg in the third quarters.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
It's just not fun to watch.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
That was my biggest complaint is that even in the past,
where maybe you get a second half where they're like
grinding it out at the minimum, at the at least,
it's not boring. Now it's the second half is also
it's dreadfully boring.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Nothing happens because nothing changes.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
They were very limited with what Aaron Rodgers could do.
He was in pistol just about the entire game, and
you know, there's only so much you can do back there.
And if you want to run the ball, they're gonna
be six yards deep in the end, behind the line
of scrimmage at that point, so you're already starting an
uphill battle.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You know, they should just be looking at it like, oh,
well you're running downhill from that formation.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I know.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They didn't run the ball effectively at all. They didn't
throw the ball effectively at all. Total yardede yesterday one
hundred and sixty six for the Steelers, three hundred and.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Seventy two for the Bills.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Mike Tomlin said at halftime, Yeah, we got to run
the ball better, and then they went out and threw
right away and burped it up. Time of possession was laughable.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I had to refresh my screen a bunch of times
because I kept thinking, like, well, when are they They've
got to update it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, it feels like this, but it can't be right.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It was basically forty two to eighteen. Yeah, Bills had
the ball for forty two minutes yesterday.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Cam Hayward was pissed after the game. I mean, everyone's pissed.
All the Steelers fans were pissed. Mike Tomlin made Steelers
fans boo, renegade. Mike's gonna come in here and go well, no, no, no, no.
The players did okay, but it's clear when TJ.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Watt is screaming at him on the sidelines that there's
something a little too antiquated about the defense of schromatics
that they employ week in and week out that is
keeping them from being competitive, because with all the money
they spent on those big name players, they absolutely stink
on defense. Just in offens It's like Arthur Smith is
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the offensive version of Mike Tomlin in that this is
how we're gonna do it, and if we do this perfect,
there's a narrow path to win. It's like a guy
leading you into war and he's like, all right, see
that rickety bridge over there.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
All right, we're gonna have to be very careful.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
But if we can get across that rickety bridge and
it doesn't fall down after we get all the troops
over there, we can get to the other side and
get back to camp and say, and people like, you know,
we could.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Just take the car and go the other way, sir.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
No, no, no, no, this is how we do it.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
They're unnecessarily narrow minded. And Aaron Rodgers throwing Johnny Smith
under the bus after the game last night, let you
know where he is now.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
He deserved to get thrown under the bus.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I'm actually okay with what he said, which was basically like, yeah,
when I checked to a different route, you got to
run that route and I checked it inside, Johnny ran
outside and he's a pro, so he's gonna feel sick
about that. But don't think that didn't piss off Johnny Smith.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
But I also heard Aaron kind of throwing that maybe
people aren't coming to film study either.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, come to film study, come to you know, meetings
on time. So it sounds like there's a little discord
in the ranks once again. But that also goes back
to coaching.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
You have to find, okay, what is then coming down
from the top.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
The players don't think they have to do that.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, well they got rid of George Picketts because they
thought he was a disciplined problem.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And DK Metcalf takes stupid penalties every game and he
might be the one that Aaron Rodgers is talking about.
We don't even know, Mike will come in and make
some more sense of it. Yesterday, you know, I really
thought after that first half, like, we can beat these guys,
and the utter collapse that was the second half of
that game, because I thought they played terrible in the
first half and they were still winning and they were
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getting the ball to start the second half, and I thought, well,
they'll turn it around now. And of course, because that's
what they always do, right.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Sure they never do what actually they don't.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Why do I think they're gonna do that.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Second game in a row that I had nothing to
say positive about a third quarter, like where I normally
take notes of, like, you know, the things I want
to remember that went well, went right?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
What went wrong?
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Second game in a row, I had nothing to try
about what went right in the third quarter and then
fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I don't think I had anything either.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
I'm like, all right, well, bedtime time for some nightmares.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Pumpkin Pie is still good.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Mike Tomlin heard Steeler fans calling for him to be fired, and.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
He definitely heard it. First question, he dodged like he
didn't want to dress. At second question, he was like,
you know, I'm frustrated too.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's like, ah, frustration.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Patrick Queen was sniping back and forth with former Steeler
tree Essex on Twitter last night. It was a bad
look for the Steelers organization once again. I don't know
how you re up for this in the future. If
you're Art Rooney, how do you say, Yep, this is
how I want to do business. This is not a
matter of personnel. It's it's not I know they didn't
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have their left tackle, who they have no faith in
and don't like at all but the whole season yet,
but that should not have had any effect on what
yesterday was yet again an inability to use Jalen Warren
as effectively as they're capable of doing.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
They were just bad.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
They get beat on the line of scrimmage on both
sides of the ball. They got out tuffed. They're soft,
and that's why people were chanting fire Mike Tomlin in
Akroshuer Stadium, and that's why they booed renegade. They freaking
booed renegade bad.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You have to piss off Steeler fans to get them
to boost sticks.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
You've got to blow it on fourth down at the flight.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I think with the worst ever, I think you have
to do that or third and eight check into a
candy gainwell run, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
And then Aaron Rodgers response is what if it would
have made it? You guys wouldn't have been saying that.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's like, yeah, correct if some butts with candy and nuts,
my aunt would be my uncle.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
All right, Abby's got a news that day for you.
What's going on? We're talking about happy stuff? Okay, how
was your Thanksgiving? Was it lovely?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So relaxing?
Speaker 7 (11:35):
That's all around the table, and we talked about how
much we loved new drugs.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Did you do that we actually did do?
Speaker 9 (11:40):
That?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Is that's so cute. I wish we'd uh, I knew
enough people at the table. I was out to say that,
oh cute. You didn't have to be like a name
tag a man like uh.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Mary, Yes, no, did you.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You had to meet people at Thanksgiving?
Speaker 7 (11:56):
You had new new uh new significant others, new and
new people.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, that happens sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, we had Yeah, my sister brought her new uh
a boyfriend. And these are grown adults, folks, so it's
you know, it's it does sound weird.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
She was playing with their hair the whole time. Yeah,
now gave me his Pinda wear. He had a dog
that was very cool and yeah, so you know, but
just the stress of everything.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know, it always is like that mom gets drunk.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And then who's going to take mom home?
Speaker 7 (12:29):
You know a lot of that, But I do like
when moms get drunk.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Man, I'm into it.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, she just kept telling me I look terrible. So
that's a mom special though, Mom moral Scott, she had
the worst. I looked at her. Honey, you're not sleeping.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh you look day two she goes, well, you look
like you slept a little bit, but still not enough.
I'm like, okay, Mom, well let me know when I
conformed to your beauty standards. Great seeing you too.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I can't crush ten while you're here, mom.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And then three I like, you know, Sunday scaries texts
for from her, you know, on a Friday.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Oh did I go too far? I hope you don't.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Oh geez, I didn't mean it like that. Oh, I'm
just worried my mom becames in the Irish Canadian.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well I like that.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
My mom tells me I look terrible when I think
I look good, and then tells me I look good
when I know I look terrible because she's trying to apologize. Yeah,
and then it doesn't work. Yeah, it's just a mom thing.
They think they can get away with it. Yeah, but
you know what I store it. I remember you. When
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it's time to pick a home, I'll remember.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
That's the way to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Is always threatened them with their you know, the conditions
of their demise, like remember, I am the person in
charge of your exit.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, you know, when we, like I said, we all
had to we had a piece of paper in front
of us.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
My aunt hosted for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
We had a piece of paper in front of us
where we had to write one word for every person
that was at Thanksgiving, okay, and then you would go
around and then we'd start with each person. We'd be
like okay, Jane, and then everybody would have to say
the word that they had for that person.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Oh that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I mean, like we had too many My in laws
extended family were that we had like twenty five people.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
So okay, we had fourteen Okay, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
People, but you knew each other. There's like a boyfriend
of a person that I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
And no, we all knew each other very well. And
so and this is like my tight knit family. That's
adorable Mom's side of the family. But yes, I would
like to pat myself on the back for coming up
with the word assertive for my mother.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
That was the word you give her on Thanksgiving, Go
get her assertive.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
She got other words like.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You put the ass in assertive, mom bold.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
She kept saying things like I was taking too long
and I said, carefuler.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'm going to come up with two words for you.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Good for you, down man.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Speaking of Thanksgiving with news this hour brought to you
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Speaker 3 (15:05):
Cloudy and cold today. It's a high of thirty five.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
There's going to be snow on and off tonight, accumulation
of accoding to an inch, so watch.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Out for slappery roads.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
How is your fridge looking if it's still a game
of Tetris? Tonight's meal should probably be a Thanksgiving leftover buffet.
It's been four days since Thanksgiving, so technically today is
your last day to eat your leftovers before.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
They go bad.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I'm going out with a bang.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh really, okay, I want to tell you you'd been
proud of me. My brother was like he's very much
like he is the Thanksgiving chef. So he's got these
amazing turkey breasts he's done and he's ripped them off
the carcass and everything, and he's like, gonna get rid
of the carcass.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I'm like, there's a lot of meat on there, and
he's like, you want to do it.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
He's like, I've been working my ass off, dude, I
did the best, but if you want to go at it,
I'm like, okay. And then you know, you look at
you like, there's really not that much meat here, but
it looks like there's a ton.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
But if you really work at it, you can get it.
So you know, turned that into carcass soup last night,
as I was calling it, and it was a turkey
white bean kale and had like chopped tomatoes in it, Like,
oh dude, this soup turned out. It was such a banger.
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It was my favorite post Thanksgiving thing I've ever done
with turkey. Even though I know a lot of people
do turkey soup. I've always thought it was like turkey noodle,
but this one, it gave it a little more of
an Italian flare. Yeah, and that was like moving away
from Thanksgiving a little bit on the palette, which I
hadn't done since Thursday because it's all been turkey sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Soeah, because I know, like.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I have friends who are Italian. They're like, oh dude,
the first big Italian meal after Thanksgiving, it's like, you know,
you're getting your life support back.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Red sauce. It's like you're putting the mask back on.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
We had noki at Thanksgiving. I always with red sauce.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Wow, that's the one thing we were talking about, like
the thing at Thanksgiving that should not be, like if
you had to take one thing away, and I remember,
uh we I don't think I got to. You know,
we're always talking and sometimes you know, things don't come
up because things go out of your head. But I
was thinking, I'm like, I know my family's gonna have
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something Italian. It's either stuff shells or knock you or something.
And we forgot.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
To take it out of the oven.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
That's almost just thinking food there was and it's always there.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But like, you know, so I had that to bring home.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
My My big like meal was I took a thing
a turkey and a green bean like kind of castlerole thingy,
but not not too like saturated or anything. And I
remixed it with some better than bollion sauce, all right,
And I made that with like a new fresh thing
of rice.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And I made like a good like semi healthy bowl.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Whatever I gotten rid of, like a good set of
leftovers I still have, like all like the egregious like
comfort pillowy.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Side I have.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I have, Yeah, I have those two. So what do
they say about the timing on all that today is
the last day?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Okay, so it does say According to the USDA, turkey stuffing, potatoes,
sweet potatoes, green beans, gravy, and pumpkin pie can all
be stored in the fridge for three to four days
if you don't want to waste the food you have.
Most leftovers can last a few months in the freezer.
I don't know, guys, I don't just eat it.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
If you have too much turkey, freeze it well, yeah,
I mean no.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
And in your case too, if you're gonna like soup
it up later too, because.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I don't know more carcass soup.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
There's one Thanksgiving staple that will will survive in the
fridge a little longer, though, cranberry sauce.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I was watching my mom eat that yesterday.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I like cranberry sauce, but my sister ruined it this year.
She's like, I'll make it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I make it really good, and then she had like
tons of orange zest in it or something.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I feel like I was eating an orange peel.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
No too much.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
He's like, do you like it?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'm like, pru no shade, but that's a little extra.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I totally agree. I'm like, I want cranberry.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't want to feel like I'm eating a rind
out of the top of the garbage. I'm not sally wigging.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
All the canned stuff can last up to two weeks
in the fridge, so just be careful, don't push anything
with the meat and the dairy products, which is basically
everything unless you're vegan, which you know you probably didn't
have any of the meat anyway, so be careful and
went in doubt.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Throw it out.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
He my brother did three stuffings this year, which was
down one and he did just the regular old you know,
normal normal sized nipples, normal.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Stuff, normal size, and then he did He does this
every year, and it's it's as easy as it sounds
to just add to regular stuffing sausage and pepper stuffing.
It tastes like a sausage in pepper sub that sounds
so good. So and he uses hot turkey sausage in that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I would destroy that.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
It's so good.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
He used to do a shrimp pettufe, but there's too
many shrimp allergies.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Now you mentioned that.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I think I thought you said there was like some
lobster in it or something.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
It was shrimp. Oh that also, I.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Would it really really good. And then he did a
mushroom one with and he put a bunch of morales
in it. This year, it's just stupid.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It was so good.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
No Wonder stressed.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, he was well, he was stressed. He had a
lot going on.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
He was trying to you know, every burner was going
you know what I mean, like my my whole thing
is like, oh, I'll take care of Wednesday night dinner.
Just like try to get one burner on a Wednesday
night when he's prepping.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
It ain't happening.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
I came with my root vegetables like ready to go
in the crock pot, like I timed it so that
they were warm enough. I had the crockpot already on
warm so that they would like kind of shup, like
ready to go.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
It can just like plug it in or whatever.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
But I remember in past years like and you just
never ever do it, Like when you show up to
somebody's house for Thanksgiving and go, can I get a
little oven space?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's like do you walk like.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Or you couldn't exactly, Yes, you have to have that pot.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
You need to come prepared, self contained.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That is, somebody showed up this year and wanted a
little oven space and it was for something that nobody
was going to eat. And you know, it was one
of those progredging like sure, won don't you uh shoot,
you can do open it up.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
To bang my wife exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Oh you want some oven space? Well who left for you?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It was very tense, you know what it was the
weather because we got destroyed up in the ear the lake.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
The sea was angry, my.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Friend, just like Las fans forty mile an hour winds
that looked like that.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, So it was. It was brutal up there.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And they got a few inches of snow, but nothing
like last year when the entire he shut down with
a thirty inch snowstorm that dropped him the course of
about seven hours. Remember I barely got out of there.
Next I did my record release on the Friday of
Thanksgiving weekend last year. I do remember that, and I
barely got out of there. Then this time it wasn't
so bad.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But oh, your record's a year old.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The record is a year old, that's right. And today
is my DVE anniversary.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
What a fun little banner hanging day for you, mister Balmant.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I want to thank Abby, who, by the way, remembered
today was my DVE anniversary. On this day in nineteen
ninety nine, I started on the morning show while Paulson
was still here as a matter of fact, and because
he wasn't leaving until the end of December, and I
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had to pretend I was an intern until they announced
it the week before Christmas. Wow, and everybody was just like,
who's this idiot? And then they were treating me like
an intern the whole time. And then when it was
announced that I was actually taking the job from Scott,
one of the people on staff goes, man, I would
hate to be.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You, and I was like, huh.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And then one of the people on the show said
it's not gonna last. I'm like, what did I sign
up for anyways? Fool them all? So Abby says, I
come it this morning and there's a lovely note waiting
for me, Happy twenty sixth anniversary DV aniversary because she
overheard me talking about it was somebody a week ago
and remembered, of course, and clocked it and got me
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a little gift.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I turn over the.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Note and it is a bumper sticker with a picture
of Gordon Lightfoot playing the guitar, and it says, stop honking,
I'm crying to the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by
Gordon Lightfoot. We should put a Gordon Lightfoot together about
the wreck that is the Steelers. Matter of fact, we'll
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have to do that for tomorrow, because good Lord, what
has happened?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
And Ben's Jerry Doulac rob king mister Wednesday on a Monday,
Jeff Conko will be joining us here shortly live from
the Donz applying ache on things yesterday, because usually he
comes in and tells me what he thinks I got wrong.
In the opening salvo here as we recount twenty three
seven Steelers lose to the Bills yesterday.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
Sports is Up brought to you by Bridgeville.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I'm sorry twenty six seven. I forgot about that last
field goal.
Speaker 12 (24:26):
After another awful performance and another awful result, Aaron Rodgers
found a way to make it sound and seem even
worse when asked how he and his would be pass
catchers could get better in the way of Bill's twenty
six Steelers seven.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
When there's film sessions, everybody shows up. And when I
checked through a route, you do the right route, you know,
like John and I just were on same page. I
checked to his inbreaker and he ran outbreaker. You know,
(25:02):
I'm Johonnah's a true professionals. I'm sure he's you know,
he's sick, sick about that. But you know, I threw
all I thought was going to get it by the
wind and he was four yards over Roman, so I
got to make that throw. But you know, we have
our meetings every week, we have other opportunities outside of
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the facility and look forward to seeing all the boys there.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So my take on that was the person who isn't
going must be John Hu because he felt comfortable using
his name. Now, if it isn't, we'ren't even worse shape,
because that means there's one more guy who doesn't know
what's going on.
Speaker 12 (25:44):
Yeah, I was trying to figure out if he was
talking about during the workday stuff or extra stuff outside
of the facility. Well that and I'm guessing it's the ladder.
But I'm not sure that they're not going above Mionta.
I mean, if guy aren't showing up from nine to five,
so to speak, Yeah, you know, that's a huge issue.
(26:07):
If it's something, hey, let's get together tonight and go
over some stuff and somebody doesn't show, that's maybe an
indication somebody's not willing to go.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
The extra mile.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I mean, I can't imagine DK's really happy right now,
and he's certainly acting out constantly week and the week
out on the field. I mean, he's got to be
leading the team in penalties right now, right.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah, that's kind of who he is.
Speaker 12 (26:28):
The sort of knew that coming in seven points for
the Steelers, their fewest since Week four, twenty twenty three
at Houston when they got six that was on the
way to Matt Canada's last stand. That's where they are offensively,
and the biggest issue, just ahead of not being able
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to run the ball against a horrifically bad run defense,
was deciding that Yeah, Aaron Rodgers can play, but he
can't take a snap on the side. I couldn't, so
he's going to be in shotgun all day. That that
is as confounding and a decision is the one they
made in uh Los Angeles against the Chargers when Siamala
couldn't play. So they said, well, let's play Anders Peede
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at guard and keep Spencer Anderson eligible to be the
extra tight end, but we'll also play him at guard,
and we have to make those guys come in and
out because Anderson can't go from extra tight end back
to guard, so he's got to come out for a
play and then we'll go back into guard after play.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
And that was just a mess.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
The coaching is abysmal right now. The decision making is
an absolute disaster.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
It was yesterday. You know what. That's beating yourself before
you get started.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well, how about the fourth and two call?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, well, you know you could have got back into
the game. There you're bagging by a threat, but you
score a touchdown on a two point version.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
You're one of your touchdown version away. Right.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
I don't know they you know, they'd run the ball
ineffectively all day and they passed it to get down there,
and they decided to put it in Kenny Gagwell's hands instead.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Of Rogers and the aline spencer. Anderson out as a
slot receiver on that play. You know, he's like out
off the right tackle.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I don't know, he's a diversion of what the hell
he was there all he motioned.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
The bigger issue with it to me was you had
Johnny Smith was an inside tight end and mount Washington
was an outside tight end. Uh, And they relied on
Johnny Smith to make a block and.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Mount Washington was wide open for He's like one on
one with a guy who's not going to tackle all that.
Speaker 12 (28:42):
Or if you're determined to run it, maybe he should
be blocking.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah, I don't understand a lot of the decision making yesterday.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
It was confounding.
Speaker 12 (28:53):
On the defensive side. They gave up two hundred and
forty nine rushing yards. Nowuffo did have the number one
rushing team in the NFL, but Buffalo, like Pittsburgh, has
really no receivers that scare anybody. And Buffalo had no
starting offensive tackles available. And you knew Buffalo wasn't really
going to throw the ball much, and it didn't and
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the Steelers still gave up two hundred and forty nine
nursing yards, which were the most by a road team
in Pittsburgh since Week two, nineteen seventy five, when the
Buffalo Bills gained three ten two hundred and twenty seven
of those by a guy named O. J.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Simpson.
Speaker 13 (29:34):
T J.
Speaker 12 (29:35):
Watt had a hard time putting that into context.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
I mean, I've never seen a team run the same
play as much as they ran tonight, and now as
much success as they had.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I mean, I'm a lout of words for it.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Rumo kept saying, it is thick. They're running it again.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
I thought it was three or four plays, and Charlie
agreed with me on the post game three or four runs,
that's all they did.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Apparently it was less than that.
Speaker 12 (29:59):
You know, to change the formation, yeah, run, change the personnel,
run the same play.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, that's not schematics. You know what's coming and you
can't stop it.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Well, maybe having a little help up there instead of
twenty yards offull on of scrimmage. I mean, you know,
you know, stop it. They can't, Mike, they can't and
it here's the really confounding part.
Speaker 12 (30:30):
They did a great job against the Bears, who were
the number two rushing team in the league, on the
road in Chicago, stopping the run. They had the players
to do it, they had the schematics to do it.
Did you see what the Bears did to Philly?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (30:42):
Running the ball just ran right through them. So, okay,
that was pretty good. They stopped Jonathan Taylor, who is
maybe the best back in the league.
Speaker 11 (30:49):
That's pretty good. How do you go from that to
what we saw.
Speaker 12 (30:52):
Yesterday or Austin? I don't know what else to tell you.
I don't have an answer for that, because.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
There are time.
Speaker 12 (31:01):
To me, there are times when the players are fine,
and there are times when the schematics are fine, and
there are times like yesterday where they're just off the
charts awful.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Well, Derek Harmon not being there certainly hurt them, no question, but.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
He won't be that bad.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Can't be one guy.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
We're gonna have Tim Benz join the fray when we
come back. Abby, you'll have your news at the top.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
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Speaker 8 (32:52):
They booed Renegade, they booed Rent. No cheering, they're booing
Rand good Lord after the stop for yes, good good
call there. Well, that's what I'm saying. That was renegade.
Speaker 11 (33:09):
It was just got stuff. The game's over.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yeah, you got to read the room on that one.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Tim Benz joining us right now, brought to you by
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Tim Ben's Benz Uh, I never heard Renegade get booed before,
but I also agreed with the booing. I guess the
first thing I want to ask you about is do
you think the Steelers made a mistake putting Aaron Rodgers
behind center with that much limited ability with the cast
(33:36):
on the left hand and being unable to get under center.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Hold on one second, now, you're good.
Speaker 14 (33:45):
Well, based on how poor Mason Rudolph was when he
got in there, I guess no, because you're right.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
By the way.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
I want to hear Michelle Michaels open up the Electric
Lunch today by playing Renegade and then just playing a soundtrack.
Speaker 13 (34:00):
Of people booing underneath it. I think that would be
poetic justice to what we heard yesterday.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It was it was a dark day yesterday, a dark,
dark day.
Speaker 14 (34:11):
And the fire Tomlin Chance, where were you in the
stadium range?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I actually didn't go yesterday. I got back from Thanksgiving
vacation a little late and watched. I watched it from
my couch and Jacob, you said you heard those the
booing pretty soundly in your section.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I was talking about it with Abby before we went
on air, and I said the same thing that you did.
I said, read the room. Yeah, I mean, like Mike said,
it was after that fourth down stop that could they
could have governed an offense. No one was in a
cheerful mood. No I was.
Speaker 14 (34:43):
I was in the line to get into the locker
room afterwards, and there was a couple of bills personnel
trickling down from the press box and one of the
I don't have no idea who it was, but one
of the members of the Bill's PERSONNELA is walking behind us,
said to another guy.
Speaker 9 (34:59):
It gave me chills when they started to boo renegade.
Speaker 14 (35:04):
So like the sideline for the Bills obviously got a
jolt out, as if they needed one based on the
way the Steelers are performing, But they got a jolt
out of the fact that.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
The crowd had turned ugly against their own team yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Well, I think we all understand why. I mean, where
do you lay the first line of culpability?
Speaker 14 (35:26):
Well, this is a gross oversimplification, but I'll use it anyway.
I think the players on defense deserve blame for how
they played. I think the players on offense were victims
of how poorly they were coached. And that's letting the
offensive players off the hook too much. I get it
they stunk too, but it just jumps out at me
(35:48):
how bad the players are on defense. For the way
you guys talked about it in the six thirty Sports cast,
the quotes from TJ.
Speaker 13 (35:56):
Watt, the quotes from Peyton Wilson.
Speaker 14 (35:59):
You know, I asked Peyton Wilson, were they doing anything
different in the run game, because I.
Speaker 13 (36:03):
Know you guys are preparing for all week, And he
said no, they.
Speaker 14 (36:06):
Every run that popped, the coaches told us about, the
coach has warned us about. We worked against it all week,
and yet it still happened.
Speaker 9 (36:15):
So to me, that's on the players.
Speaker 14 (36:18):
Running on third and seven, running on fourth and to
some of the things they tried to do on offense,
or some of the things they.
Speaker 13 (36:26):
Avoided trying to do on offense.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
That was more scheme.
Speaker 14 (36:30):
But you know, then again, Mason didn't make throws, Rogers
didn't make throws, and the guys upfront didn't block en up.
Speaker 13 (36:36):
So it was a.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Disaster all It was a disaster all around. I was
hoping Mason would be the spark they needed.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
He immediately threw one at DK's feet and then of
course the interception that wasn't good.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Iunt Washington.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's hard to do, no question, but I thought that
it would have been nice if they would have seen
Aaron Rodgers at practice this week, and then thought, you know,
maybe we should run Mason with it, just a small
select package with package with the ones right now, so
we can change it up if Aaron doesn't end up
finishing this game, because you know, you had the advantage
(37:13):
of having a guy with two good risks coming in there.
But you'd only game plan for the guy with one
bad one, so you can still only trot out the
same stuff that wasn't working.
Speaker 14 (37:24):
Well, the funny thing is, like I don't remember this
wave of complaints or concerns covering Ben Roethlisberger for all
those years where they could only do one thing that
they game plan for. I seem to remember a chunk
of about nineteen years there where if something wasn't working,
(37:44):
they pivoted to something else. And you know, whether it's
been Rogers or Fields, or Kenny Pickett or Mitch Trubisky
or Russell Wilson, by the way, is going to the
Hall of Fame too. Ever, since Ben has left, they've
acted like they can only do one thing, one thing,
and one thing only going into any game.
Speaker 9 (38:07):
And should that not work, oh well we lose, you know,
like that.
Speaker 14 (38:12):
They should be more malleable than that, shouldn't they?
Speaker 4 (38:16):
I mean, yes, on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Yeah, well I think guess said they weren't because of
the hand thing.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Okay, well then he shouldn't be playing right.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
For two series one, series three plays, I'm three plays.
Speaker 14 (38:32):
If they can't see then how limiting their limited playbook
is because of Rogers being in there, they have to
admit that they've made a mistake and take him out there.
Speaker 9 (38:40):
But God forbid that they ever.
Speaker 13 (38:42):
Admit that they make a mistake.
Speaker 14 (38:43):
I mean, like if I can't remember how many plays
into the game it was, but it wasn't many.
Speaker 13 (38:48):
It might have been the second series.
Speaker 14 (38:49):
But when they had that play where they wanted to
run right and they felt like the easiest way to
do that was for Rogers to kind of turn around
and throw it backwards instead of pitching or handing off
with his left hand, Like that had to be an
indication of Okay, we're going so far down the well
to protect against this, then he shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 9 (39:10):
You know, you get the report that comes out.
Speaker 14 (39:12):
And by the way, I had somebody else corroborate that
Ian Rappaport report about the one really bad break and
then the two other little breaks. Somebody else told me
that same thing right before kickoffs. And if it's that bad,
then just say he's injured, you know, Like it's not
as if this offense is so advanced that the Bills.
Speaker 9 (39:33):
Were been quaking in their boots if they knew, oh
my god.
Speaker 13 (39:35):
We're preparing for Aaron Rodgers instead of.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
Mason Rudolph, Like I didn't think the game plan.
Speaker 14 (39:40):
Itself looked all that vastly different between the two weeks.
Speaker 13 (39:43):
Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
That?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Could?
Speaker 5 (39:45):
They weren't on the field long enough for me to
tell what the hell was.
Speaker 12 (39:50):
That's second second series Rogers as a one on one
the Roman Wilson he missed it, and he missed it bad,
and then he said, oh, I was he worried about
the win.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
Like I'm sorry he got to hit that.
Speaker 12 (40:03):
I watched Carolina in the Rams yesterday and Carolina had
two fourth and shorts.
Speaker 11 (40:08):
And went one on one deep on both of them
town and score touchdowns, Like you gotta.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Play Pryce Young threw a perfect ball.
Speaker 12 (40:15):
Big boy football, and if you can't, you lose, and
they can't break.
Speaker 14 (40:19):
Now Rogers is really, really good, and I've started to
watch him when things go wrong on the field, Like
he's great in the locker room and saying, you.
Speaker 13 (40:28):
Know, I got to make that throw. I gotta do better.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
But he's also real good at pointing out what everybody
else doesn't do, and like the best play of the
game might have been that crazy one handy catch that
Gadewell made and stayed in his ride and picked up
seventeen yards. But even on that play, I watched Rogers afterwards,
and when he threw it, he was like pointing at
the turf or looking it look like he slipped or
(40:51):
something on the delivery.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
There's always something.
Speaker 13 (40:54):
It's always somebody else.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
He's thrown that ball to him all year.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
He has been throwing that go get them ball on
the checkdown non stop.
Speaker 14 (41:05):
And that was that was almost as blatantly bad as
the Rogers skipped to DK.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
It's just that.
Speaker 9 (41:10):
Gainwell bailed him out.
Speaker 14 (41:13):
Now, he couldn't bail him out twice when they decided
to run on pivoting situations. Once on third and seven, sorry,
third and eight he got seven, and then on the
fourth and two, and then Rogers got all snippy in
the post game when someone had the temerity to ask
him about it.
Speaker 13 (41:29):
Well, I mean, I think that's a.
Speaker 14 (41:30):
Very worth So he's mad that the question was asked
because Gainwell didn't get an extra yard.
Speaker 9 (41:35):
You know why I didn't get an extra.
Speaker 14 (41:36):
Yard, Aaron, Because running on third and eight is pretty
far right. That's why I mean, it's a legit question,
and he wants to grouse and grumble at it.
Speaker 9 (41:45):
You know. I guess it's hard for.
Speaker 14 (41:47):
Me to say I'm over him because I was never
really on board with him, But I gave it some
latitude because they were playing well early and I was
willing to see how far down it could go into
the season. And I guess I have my answer. You know,
somewhere around Thanksgiving, it just fell off the rails.
Speaker 12 (42:02):
I mean, they hit a low yesterday that we haven't
seen since Kenny Picking in mac Canada.
Speaker 9 (42:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (42:09):
I mean, I never thought it would get to the
point where we longed for Matt Canada.
Speaker 13 (42:13):
And maybe I'm still not. I'm feeling similar. I'm feeling
similar to what it was.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
Uh, there's just no answers.
Speaker 13 (42:19):
You know.
Speaker 14 (42:19):
Somebody asked me once, uh And when I say once,
like last week after the Chicago game, what's really the
difference between Arthur Smith and Matt Canada? And I said,
better World War Two analogies, And that's basically about it.
He's got he's got he's got pithier sound bites, and
he's better at, you know, engaging us and talking about
(42:40):
why he's doing what he's doing. But the results are
painfully similar. And that's what this team is. They are painfully,
painfully average in a league that's built to be average,
and they are constantly positioned as being something better and
something above that they are not.
Speaker 9 (42:59):
They are the definition.
Speaker 13 (43:01):
Of NFL mediocrety right now.
Speaker 14 (43:02):
A team that can, like you said, Mike and the
previous sports cast, they can hold the second best rush
team in football to ninety nine yards and then the
go up against the best rush team in football and give.
Speaker 13 (43:13):
Up two forty nine at home.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
When you found out when you found out their tackles
weren't playing this week, that's when every Steeler fan knew,
while we're in trouble, which were in trouble, Yeah, we
can't take advantage of this.
Speaker 14 (43:27):
That's especially true for the pass rush because I'm at
the point now when I hear that the other team
has this guy out and that guy out along the
offensive line, that that offensive tackle stinks, and boy Tech
is gonna eat with three sacks this week, I know
it's going to go exactly the opposite. Because the myth
of what the Steelers pass rush is still spooks opposing
(43:47):
team offensive coordinators to just leave everybody in They Chip
the double, and Watt has no prayer of getting home.
He can't make the play himself, and nobody else can
make a play on the other side often enough.
Speaker 9 (43:57):
I mean, like, I get it.
Speaker 14 (43:59):
They only threw ball twenty three times, but they went
from eight sacks against to none.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Come on, well they missed four.
Speaker 8 (44:07):
Yeah, he's a hard guy to bring down. They didn't
get a to grow fair enough.
Speaker 9 (44:10):
Tim.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
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Speaker 15 (44:14):
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Speaker 11 (44:26):
Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 16 (44:28):
The Steelers were blown out by the Bill Sunday at
Akrostro Stadium twenty six to seven, in a game where
they only gained one hundred and sixty six yards of
total offense and lost the time of possession battle to
Buffalo forty one minutes and fifty nine seconds to eighteen
oh one. Pittsburgh actually had the lead coming out of
halftime seven to three and started the second half of
the game with the ball. From the very first play
of their possession, Bill's addresher Joey Bosa demolished Aaron Rodgers,
(44:51):
knocking the ball loose and Bill's corner Christian Benfort scooped
it up for the touchdown to give the Bills the lead,
and it all snowball downhill from there for the Steelers.
The factor in the Bill's success Sunday was their rushing offense,
which was the best in the league heading into the game,
and it showed.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Buffalo gashed the Steelers for a total of two.
Speaker 16 (45:07):
Hundred and forty nine yards on the ground and an
average of four point nine yards per carry. Leading the
way was running back James Cook, who had his league
leading seven to one hundred yard rushing performance on the
season as he ran for one hundred and forty four
yards on thirty two carries against the Steelers, and the
Bills improved to six to one on the year in
the games that Cook eclipsed the one hundred yards on
the ground. The Steelers now try to bounce back from
(45:28):
two straight losses as they traveled to Baltimore to take
on the six and six Ravens for control of the
AFC North.
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