December 1, 2025 • 44 mins
Gerry Dulac doesn't see any silver lining from the Steelers loss to the Bills, and doesn't see how the team can turn things around to make a playoff push.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
Cook starts right and finds a hole up the middle
of the field, bursts through straight down the field and
inside the ten yard line before Samuel and Porter can
bring him down. They're gonna mark him down at the seven.
Just burst free for thirty one yards on that run.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
That was James cook long of the day yesterday, on
a one hundred and forty four yard effort. He averaged
four and a half per carry on his thirty two
carries yesterday and just destroyed the Steelers defense, who knew
what was coming and couldn't stop it. An awful day.
They booed renegade, which is kind of like Philly throwing
snowballs at Santa.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's you know.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
It's the highest form of dissident behavior, Yes, of a crowd.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Well, fire, Mike Tomlin, Yeah, is right up there too.
You know, since the Matt Canada days, the Steelers fans
have a very low threshold. And for the Steelers this
week it was week thirteen, or was it week fourteen?
I don't even remember now thirteen.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
That's the first time I remember them chanting fire. Mike Tomlin, same.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think you've heard it audibly. Yeah, Honor Podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I don't know if they ever said that about Bill Cower,
and they were there's a lot of revisionist history about
Bill Cower. People forget he was close to he was
on the hot seat. Steeler fans were sick and tired
of him. He won that Super Bowl that kind of
saved face for him, and then he ducked out nicely
with his career legacy intact and he is remembered as
a revered coach for the entire time he was here.
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That was not the case, but his circumstances did not
go on as long as Mike Tomlins have. In terms
of the dissatisfaction of the fan base, I've been putting
up with this for a long time, and the national
media's coloring of the Steeler fan perception of Mike Tomlin
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has been so wrong for so long that they just
finally last year started to come around to it a
little bit. Now with Steeler fans booming renegade and chanting
fire Mike Tomlin during the game so loudly that it
made its way onto the CBS broadcast, Well, there's just
no denying it, and you're gonna see it all over
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the punditry of the National Football League today that Mike
Tomlin's seat is officially hot.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, I think I.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Said it too, But because going into that game, you know,
the crowd walking into the game was hyped up. Now
you could tell it was sort of like a shaky faith.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That the people had.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
But there was a lot of chanting back and forth
between Bill's fans and Steelers, a lot of here we
go Steelers chance, yeah, going up the rotunda. But you
could tell, deep down in their soul everyone's like, I
don't know about this one, and I think but they
were trying to put on a good face and then
when it started, the wheels fell off. Then everybody jumped
off the band how quick again.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I don't mind losing to the Bills, Jeff, I don't
mind losing to the Bears.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's how you losese.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It's the way they lose, which gives you no hope
that they'll ever turn this thing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Around under the current captain.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
You went to a Bill's tailgate with a friend who's
a Bills fan yesterday, right now, I mean, were you
a little nervous rolling into the Bears or the Bill's
mafia territory?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, cause it's still Mike.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
This is this is still home turf like it was
at the Cardello Building. And but it was funny because
if you that's again a nice thing about the four
o'clock game is it's not night tailgating, which turns into
Thunderdome very quick. It's still like you know, one o'clock tailgating.
Nobody's really quite going insane yet. Now there are some
people getting tuned up, but I have I had good,
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pleasant interactions with the Bills fans in a weird way.
I was like, I bet you if you did a
twenty three and me test, there's like a lot of
shared spiritual football DNA between the Bills and the Steelers.
I think it's probably climate. We both live in absolutely
atrocious vitamin D deficiency climates. And I could just tell
like there was some kind of kindred understanding and be like,
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all right, like we see over there, it's all good.
It didn't feel like Philly. It didn't feel like Baltimore,
where they're they're alien. To me, that seemed like your cousin.
It seemed like a game against like a cousin that.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
We like, Like they're an AFC team and we don't
have as much of a grudge built up as we
do with Eagles fans. Yeah, yeah, but I think just
as a Flyers related thing and just kind of Pittsburgh, Philadelphia,
all things related. You know, Buffalo's in New York. You know,
it's kind of like there's a state line of demarcation
for us.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Seems like, like you said, we share a lot of
the same time, I feel pretty ambivalent towards most NFC teams,
But again, my time at Penn State led me to
seethe with broiling hate anything that has to do with
any any Eagles propaganda whatsoever. Being a Penn State grid
as well, I can tell you as a Western Pennsylvanian,
you will absolutely hate Philadelphia and New Jersey when you
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leave Penn State. Yeah yeah, but no, I mean Bill's
fans were pretty pretty cool for the most part, so
it was sort of hard to really hate on him,
you know, especially, I mean they were dogging us, and
you were just like, hey, good for you.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We kind of deserved the spanking here.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
We deserved the dogg In Yeah, bad day Yesterday from
Mike Tom and a Company twenty six to seven, his
quarterback calling out players in the post hit game press
conference that's going to make.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Major news today. TJ. Watt has had it up to hear.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Cam Hayward was pissed at Josh Allen said he got
need in the stomach. Josh Allen even fested up to
it to him so like, hey, I had to get
you off of me. Uh, And he wasn't wanting to
comment about Aaron Rodgers' comments. He was asked, what did
you think of the fact that Aaron basically called you guys,
you know, unprepared and said you're stofting some of the
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players aren't doing everything they should.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
He said, go ask Aaron, you know, well.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I think that's a little on because Cam probably hadn't
actually heard the verbatim statement which Aaron Rodgers was basically
saying we didn't. There was no film There was a
couple of film sessions that got this specifically, and the
reporter painted it as you're not prepared. If I'm Cam,
I'm not answering that question because I probably have my
own opinion of why we're not prepared, but I don't
want to add to the to the to the fire
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that might have got thrown out.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Think the reporter was hoping Cam would be like, oh,
was he talking about DK.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, I think that's exactly what they were going. He
was savvy enough to kind of be like, all right,
I'll take that one in house. How is your Thanksgiving
at the Conco House. By the way, we consolidated this year.
So typically, if anybody's out there that has two sets
of grandparents that are in the Greater Pittsburgh area, you
have to take your children on what I like to
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call the you know, the Eastern leg World Tour.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
On Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
You got to you got to eat a dinner at
one thirty and then another one at six thirty. But
this year, my mom hosted my in laws, so they
all came down one location, one shot, one turkey, one kill,
and we were home at eight fifteen.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Phenomenal, phenomenal way to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I had, you know, the usual suspects, my sister in laws,
in laws hurt. Well, my sister in law's sisters in
laws come so they're like twice removed. But I've known
this family for a long time because we've done Thanksgiving
every year for like twenty years, and they hit their kids.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They do it right, man. They're like, uh, you know, we're.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Kind of at the age, we don't want to be
like just sitting around like the limited couch space or
taking up floor for too long.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And we've got a mom's Thanksgiving to go to.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Also, you know, they're one of those kind and I
grew up doing that same thing, and so we're one
stop on their They come in there, Hey, what's going on.
They make a plate, they eat it really quick. They
give a few hugs if you get a walk right
out the door. And I'm like, that was masterful, and
they took ye. I'm telling you, at this day and age,
there's so much.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
From probably Tuesday night last week on till Sunday night
was NonStop socialization, getting invited to things. These are all
first world problems, good problems to have, but at one
point we started to have We started to have to
send delegations. We couldn't go as a family unit because
there was too much to do. So I sent my
wife and one son to a family delegation on one thing,
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and me and my other son went to another one
just to make an appearance as the ambassador of the
Southern concoles and uh and make an appearance and you know,
have good pr relations and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
So it was just NonStop socialization to the point where
the Steelers game. I got up on Sunday morning was like, okay,
I got one more in me. I was like trying
to get myself amped up. I was like, okay, I
can drink four more beers.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Like but I know. I texted my.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Buddy a stupid meme early on Sunday and he was like, dude,
I'm so glad this wasn't an invitation to.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
The Steelers game. He's like, I thought you're gonna say,
let's go to the game.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, Like, no, no, I'm out of town because I
mean with the Steelers game, going down, tailgating everything like that,
you you're you're ending the week with a flourish of activity,
which at that point I did not I had.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I was running on fumes like I didn't. I don't know.
If you're into it though, you can't. You can't approach
it lightly. You just if you decide to do it,
you do it.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, and we did, and that's why we went right
then to the heart of the you know, the Bill's
tailgate and everything, and it turned out to be fun.
Once it's getting out the door, it's getting out the door.
Or if you've got the smell of pancakes in your
house and it's warm, you don't want to be putting
Long Johns on. But as soon as you get out there,
it's it's fine. Did you avoid the fireball shots and
stuff like that? No fireball shots, No saw no tables
get broken. I was really hoping that somebody would have
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would have, you know, done a moon salt through a table,
But nothing doing down there.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Too cold for that. Yeah, they losing their last two?
What are they gonnaout? What's your leftover game? Looking like?
It's not bad?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I like I said, I kind of punished on the
turkey and the green beans because I still was trying
to be responsible on the leftover stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But no, it's not It's not bad. Honestly, I have
to say, I don't want to brag about it, but guys,
the side dish that I brought was the only thing
that was totally gone.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Okay, what what I brought all the boys to the yard?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I cannot believe this. I cannot believe this. It was
roasted vegetables. I did this big eat the rainbow. These
dude people want there's lain there's no vegetables. No, no, no, no,
it's got a good dressing.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
The dressing is a is a what I'm saying is
compared to the mayonnaise laden broccoli casserole. Oh that's a
light that's light fare that maybe people want on their
on their dishes.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
He's got a tangy dressing to it, and it's got
just the right amount of salt.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
But then it's got like really fresh herbs, so the
presentation really colorful.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's nice to the eye flower in there. No no,
hell no, okay, hell no. What time did you eat?
Two o'clock? Good time.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We went a little later than normal, so we were
waiting for a buddy. A buddy of ours does this
big charity thing at the restaurant he owns. Every year
he feeds the homeless. He feeds five hundred people or
more every year. He's been doing it for twenty years.
And he picked up the tradition from the restaurant we
grew up going to, which is like our local pizza
place on the east side of the ere Pos. Pizza
is amazing, and they used to feed the homeless and
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there they were a tiny but they weren't well you
know what I mean. They were They were barely, yes,
but they always so he picked up the tradition. He's
been doing it for years. And he goes, hey, I'm
coming out to eat with you guys. Afterwards, We're like, great,
we'll wait a little while and he's like okay, and
then it comes to around three o'clock or so, he's like, hey,
it's this is take forever. I'll be out after five.
(11:14):
He goes, don't wait for me, you guys eat. So
we end up eating around four o'clock or something like that. Well,
and I'm like, yeah, he'll probably be a little later
than five. Well, five comes and goes, six comes and goes,
seven comes.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And who whoa?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Eight comes and goes, all right, he's probably not coming
out understandable on the day to day whatever, you know,
we have everything put away. We're settled down to watch planes,
trains and automobiles. He rolls into the door like hitting
a vape and he's like and he's like yo, and
he's got a buddy with him, and he goes what
and he goes plus one and we're like sweatpants, like
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what you know, we're movie watching.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
We're farting on a count, right, and he's like, you
guys already eat.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
We're like it's eight forty five, four hours and he's like,
oh man, and I'm like, come on, And so we
all got up and like brought out all the food
and like, you know, made a dinner for and then
it turned into here, I was just dozing off on
the couch and now all of a sudden, I am
in a four hour session of having drinks and listening
to music. And then it's two o'clock in the morning
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and my brother and I are looking at each other
like we were out. We were on the couch, we
were ready to.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Sleep, we were all gonna pass out. It was gonna
be great. And then you know, our buddy walked in
and we started just everybody got a second win. Did
anyone know this? Plus one stranger?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, he's a is he frequent? Like, No, he's a
he's his blessed one everywhere. He's always got this guy
that's just like hanging around with him.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You know what I mean. I'm sorry to explain, but yeah,
you rolled in. We're like, hey, how are you? And
uh rolled out the food, gave him plates and then I.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Don't know, it just kicked everyone in the gear and
then we started talking music and then we started fighting,
and then I played them that weird weird.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Out, weird out. You showed me the foil. Yeah, it's
so good.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I don't know bringing a bringing a unannounced plus plus one,
I feel I can go if you if you have
some kind of idea of the person, then I think
that's one thing. It might be a pleasant seise. If
it's a Hey, this is Bob. I just met him
last week. Anyway, he's cool.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
He came back and go amendment the homeless feeding today. Anyways,
he seems cool. Cany stay here.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
No, but that guy, no, we know him, but he
would never come on his own. He would only come
as a plus one. You know what I'm saying now.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
It was nice in my in my Thanksgiving situation because
my wife's mom is an excellent cook like so, and
they've come down to my parents beforehand. Now, if you
know anything about me, uh, you could probably tell that
my parents are a teeny bit absent minded. There's been
several Christmases and Thanksgivings where my mom at four forty,
will go, why is the oven not on? And then
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it turns into a ninety five Thanksgiving, So just as
a backup, my mother in.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Law was just like, I'm just going to cook a
backup turkey. Yeah, so she brought a full backup turkey
just in case, just in case Rudolph, Yeah, mustache on it. Yeah,
that somebody's microwave is on the fritz or something like that. Yeah,
it worked out great. Yeah. My brother actually does that.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
He cooks his own at his house and then our
our family home, Like, he makes one there and then
I'm like, well, dude, you want to take some of
these leftovers with you And he's like.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Now I got one at home already. I'm like, what
is this case?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, I make a separate one. I don't trust that
you guys are going to leave anything. And I'm like
that's probably a good balance.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Well, turkeys get handed out this time of year, like
like turkeys basically, I mean everyone's hand in turkey's out.
So I guarantee you our listener base right now is
sitting on three frozen turkeys somewhere in their overlapped social
circle that they're just gonna have to use at some point.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I had to run up and get like Rosemary in time,
like from a giant eagle at like two o'clock, right,
and I'm like, I'll go up, you know the giant
Eagles open. It always drives me kind of crazy. I
feel so bad for the people who have to work there.
And I'm like, hi, Eli, thanks for working today, buddy,
and he's like, no problem, I don't care anywhere to go.
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I'm like this, But there was a guy behind me
with a full turkey, just sitting in line, and I'm like,
it's like two o'clock. You know you got to defrost
that sucker that's gonna throw microwave, Like, dude, it's a.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Good way to get worms today.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah, there's not that. You're You're out of lock at
that point, buddy, you got to go to Rby's.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well. Speaking of worms, we made the determination earlier this
morning that your leftovers are still good today.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Today's the last day you've got to eat them today.
And I got one big plate.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I'm gonna take a calculated risk on that one. Really, yeah,
I'll let that ride for two more days.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
There. We got enough turkey in there. I'm gonna let
that ride. I'm gonna freeze the turkey I've left after today.
It's I have too much. I got too much. Also
too much pie, way too much pie.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, we had a couple of backup pies that are
still sitting around and you know, not letting those go
the waste, that's that's getting hit up. Sometimes those are
getting hit up for breakfast. Have a breakfast pie, breakfast
pie with two coffee. Are you kidding me? I had
breakfast pie the last three days. I'm probably gonna go
home and have some brunch pie.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But one of the good things about Thanksgiving Day was
the football games were fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What they were for me because I was on the
right side of things.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
But the first halftime show, I was excited for the
Detroit game, Yes, when I heard that Jack White was.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Going to be out there, and it went well and
I think it got high marks. Jack White was joined
by bellow Detroit native Eminem during the halftime show of
the Green Bay Detroit Lions game, and that was at
Ford Field on Thanksgiving. So the collaboration we talked about,
it wasn't a huge surprise because Eminem was the producer
of that halftime show and so there was always going
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to be a possibility maybe that he would pop up,
but maybe you couldn't totally imagine it. To me, it
wasn't a surprise because Jack White has worked with rap
artists before. He worked with Beyonce on her record. I've
seen him pop up on a bunch of stuff. But
like he started his set with That's how I'm Feeling
from his solo album No Name, so he busts out
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with that. He started with the White Stripes Hello Operator.
In the middle of Hello Operator, Eminem comes out to
rap to like Collapse and it was kind of a
collaboration there.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So here's a little bit of that. I loved it.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
I'm just.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Turn it up a little awesome.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
I thought.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I thought it was awesome, and I love the way
that Jack White kind of had the interplay between the
two of them. I don't know, there's something cool about
that Detroit respect that was having there.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I kind of liked that it did. It worked.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I might, you know, the White Stripes just because of
Seven Nation Army. There's like a whole generation of kids,
like my ten year old knows who Jack White is.
They like that Archbishop Harold Holmes song was out this
last summer.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
That sons so bizarre.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
It's so I know, it's weird, but it was cool
and it stuck around like a lot of at least
kids are you know that that age seemed to really
like it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So it seemed even though he's sort of a not quie.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I wouldn't want to say a legacy act at this point,
but a little bit on that side of things, but
it seemed fresh, even in the context of that halftime show.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
He did close this out with seven Nation Army, which
we can hear a little bit of that as we
were watching it at Thanksgiving, Like all of my family
were going like, what is.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That garbage guitar he's playing? And I'm like, that's kind
of his thing. I love the delay I kept making.
(19:16):
The drummer must have had it, just had oh yeah,
about the same thing up. Don't think that's what.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I've heard this song a billion times, and I gotta
tell you I'm still not.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Quite totally sick of it.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I mean this part the crowd went crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I mean he had them in the palm of his hand,
and I know he's the hometown boy and everything, but
that was just such a badass performance. And then the
Cowboys game, who did that halftime? Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Post Malone?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, apparently post Malone hung out after the game and
was like playing pickup football with a couple of his
buddies on that field for a couple of hours, which
is a pretty cool, Like if you play halftime.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You're like, I'll do it on one condition.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, he might be And I get to use the
field for two hours and play pickup game with my buddies.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, that's your Turkey Bowl. That's pretty to me.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
That shows you that this is sort of why I
think people forgive post Malone for you know, what might
be considered sort of subpar musical ability is because he's
just seems like you want him as your friend.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That makes it because he'll kind of bring you to
that stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah exactly. Hey, you want to play your Turkey Bowl
at AT and T Stadium?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yes I do.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Mice got a full report on last night's debacle, the
loss to the Bills twenty six to seven at home
fire Mike Tomlin, Chance, they boo renegade. Thanksgiving Week could
not have ended worse for Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers,
but it can all turn around Sunday with a win
in Baltimore over the Well. Their first play, they're both
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six and six and it's technically, I guess the Ravens
have a game in hand somehow.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Why do they have one up on us because we
lost to the Bengals? Is that what it is? Is
it the AFC northn record tiebreaker? It's the division record? Yeah, okay,
we have no head to head obviously.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
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Speaker 4 (22:17):
Twenty six Steelers seven. The Steelers are now six and
six Mike, and with a win over the Ravens this weekend,
they'd be atop the awful AFC North.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
They are currently not a top to awful AFC North
because of record in common games with Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's the current tiebreaker. Might be the Chicago game. Yeah,
because they both lost to the Bengals. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
As for what we saw yesterday afternoon and evening, after
one of the most disastrous game day performances in Akrosher
Stadium history, Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers found himself talking about practice.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We look at it.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I'm not sure. I thought we had a better preparation
week and a poor practice week for whatever reason. I'm
not sure if it was a cold weather or what
it was, but it wasn't our best week of practice.
That doesn't always translate to a negative performance. There's been
great practice weeks and bad performances, and poor practice weeks
and great performances over the twenty many years of my career.
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But it wasn't the best practice week. So we got
a practice and the elements better and the execution again
just wasn't where it was. I can give you a
better ants on Wednesday, but let me look at the
film first.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
Lack of energy was one of the things he cited
about the actual physical practices.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
So I know that you like to put the onus
on players for stuff like this, but at what point
is it a coach's responsibility to make sure these practices
have the requisite energy.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
When the game plays out and they lose, you can
do the autosogy you gotta win games. If you're not
winning games, it's all on the coach. That's where it starts.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I think it probably is tough too for because he
said in his statement right there, like listen, I've been
in the league for twenty years. We've had bad practice weeks.
That doesn't always translate to we're going to dog it
in a game. But I think that if everything is
trending that way and practice is bad, then that's no good.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, because he brought it up.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I mean, having that Kyriat is nice, but you don't
bring it up if you don't think that's the reason.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I think he was also trying to give some answer
to what just happened right there and maybe search it
for someone wet.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
But yeah, but I would be more intended to agree
with Randy that, yeah, he wants to see that change.
And he was, of course asked a fall about that,
and he said, they're doing what they need to do.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
They just need to do it better.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
A lot of things. You know, we had some extra
film sessions this week, had extra sure and walk through
Saturday night. So I thought the preparation, like I said,
was better, but the practice wasn't as good as I
thought it was. That doesn't mean you have a bad performance,
but the execution today just wasn't good enough.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
No, he's talking about extra stuff we heard from Rogers
today where he said not showing up the film session
that right. I think he's revealing that that was additional
homework if you will.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Well, I look forward to hearing Mike Tomlin's take on
all of that when he's asked about it this week,
and if it's something that helps feel yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
One thing Rogers was adam about Bill's twenty six Steelers
seven and the wild inconsistencies that we've seen on the
way to six and six. That stuff's on the players,
not the coaching staff.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
I know what you're trying to ask, and I'm not
going to go down that road at all. I believe
in the coaching staff. I believe in Mike Tumlin's why
I came here. And players need to take accountability and
I will and I will continue to. I got to
play better. But there's eleven stars on offense, eleven on defense,
plus with the personnel groups that we run, and we're
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gonna have a Monday to Saturday. We can be really
proud of our best Monday to Saturday and go out
and play our best game and take control of the division.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Ten years ago, I would have been okay with Aaron
Rodgers playing that game with the limitations that he had
because of the left wrist injury at forty one years
of age and having the limitations that he has, I
don't think there's any way he should have started this game.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't think he should have been I.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Mean, emergency quarterback designation or something like that. He severely
hampered what they could do on offense, and they prepared
for a very limited output when the key to this
was very simply run the hell out of the ball
all day, and by playing Aaron Rodgers, you limited your
ability to be successful running the ball.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Your best sense to do it's under center, and they
took that away way on their own. Yes, and it
did not work, and it did not work in spectacular fashion,
I think, and I'm just going to speculate here. I
think part of the decision making process was Mason Rudolph
against the Bears played okay, but not well enough to win. Now,
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none of them played well enough to win. But he
missed all of his deep shots, Yes, and he couldn't
get them in the right formation at the end of
the game when everything was at stake, and they ran
that snap with Kenneth Gangwell in the wrong spot and
it was an illegal formation and you saw Rogers on
the side. Oh my god, we're in the wrong right
like you're hoping with Rogers. That doesn't happen. I'm guessing here.
(27:43):
Can't the coaches call time out there?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Too? You can, But I think we only had like one,
we only have one left at that the Bears.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
That one.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
They had all three, but you're you're saving those in
case it doesn't work, and then you get the ball
back because that was the second to last possession. And
you know, I talked to Calvin Austin about that last
week and he said, I should have just stepped up, Like,
at least we would have been in the right formation.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Even though he wasn't the one that was supposed to do.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
Yeah, at least would have been a legal play, even
though the formation would have been screwed up.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Now, how screwed up would it have been?
Speaker 9 (28:14):
If he's two feet ahead of where he was, would
he still not have been able to scramble for twenty
two yards? They're just in a bad spot right now.
They're groping. Well, they should have played Mason. Yeah, I
don't think there's any question.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
And then lived with what limited passing attack you'd be
able to use against them.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I don't know how much.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Passing attack there was going to be yesterday. I mean
there was tents getting blown out. Yeah, the wind on
the field, like Lynn Swan was trying to weigh the
terrible twel and it wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It took him aloft. Yes, yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
Was tweet a picture from the stadium before the pregame
show and say, hey, pregame shows coming on, Listen to
it because that's what you do now. And I took
one of the American flag atop the scoreboard and it
was roped.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I mean it was. Yeah, the wind was a factor.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You know.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
You get up there, you run the ball, you get
yourself into third and three, and then you can do
either one.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Do a little play action, boot, do a little dump down.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I'm weren't you surprised that he said that he was
throwing to account for the wind on the one the
Wilson where he missed him completely.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Aaron Rodgers, Oh, yeah, he sailed it on him.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Was I surprised he was accounting for the wind? Yes, no,
because that seemed to be way too far, even for
the wind. He thought the wind was gonna knock it
down a little bit. Yeah, I don't know why, and
it didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
But I thought that was even by the way he
reacted in real time, I thought that was on Roman
Wilson not getting to where he was supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
They made it sound like it was on him, which
I don't think he would do if it wasn't. No,
he doesn't strike me, he said, he my fault.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (29:54):
Yeah, I threw it for four touchdowns in five hundred
yards but it's on me.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Ben Roethlisberger is my favorite. Ben.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You threw for five hundred yards and six touchdowns today.
Somehow the team lost forty one to thirty eight. Yeah,
I got to be better. Well, you set every franchise
record for one game performance.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, I gotta be better.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Steelers are Ravens at plus six and six. The Ravens
have a minus four point differential. The Steelers have a
minus eight point differential. Steelers have scored eight fewer points
than the Ravens and allowed for fewer.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I'm surprised that close. I don't know why. Wow, seems crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
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a little bit. We'll check in with Jerry get his
postgame take on what went down there, plus maybe an
update on a couple of the injuries. Rob King with
a power hour of Steeler talk coming up at nine
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do like ladies and gentlemen, Jerry Dego morning.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
How are you?
Speaker 11 (31:28):
Yeah, Randall, I'm fine. How are you mate?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm all right. So here's my question to you.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
If Mike Tomlin had to do it all over again,
would he allow Aaron Rodgers to start with that banged
up left wrist?
Speaker 11 (31:41):
Well, Uh, the simple answer to that question is yes,
he would because he believes in what he does, and
he looks at that gave He feels that gave them
the best option to win.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
But seeing that he was so limited it actually affected
the running game. He might want no rethought that.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
Like actually oh yeah, you know, yeah, perhaps in retrospect.
But to you to your question, Randall, I don't think
there's any question beyond whatever limitations he had. He just
looked uncomfortable playing and and you know, and I'm sure
you know, wondering when he's going to take the first
(32:21):
hit on the risk, what if he falls? How's it
going to respond, you know what I mean. So he
just looked kind of just uncomfortable, out of sorts most
of the time. Obviously his numbers bear that up, but
you could just see in the way he was playing
early on that certainly seemed to be the case. And Yeah,
I don't know that Mason Rudolph would have been a
better option in retrospect. Yeah, probably because the offense really
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couldn't perform much worse. So I don't I just think
that I don't. I don't think there's any questions. You
know that he was definitely going to be limited and
and and it did. I mean, the numbers speak for themselves.
You know, sees Low's first downs yards. Obviously it wasn't
very pretty.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I have five words that I don't know any Pittsburgh
Steelers fan has asked ever, But did we miss Broderick Jones?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (33:12):
I don't think that was a bigger issue. I you know,
Mike and I discussed this on the pregame show, and
we talked about it with Max, and I think Mike
just went right down to Gauntlet and asked everybody who came,
whoever else appears on the show, who will they miss more?
Broderick Jones or.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You know, Derek Derek Harmon, and it wasmous.
Speaker 11 (33:32):
And it was unanimous. In fact, I think even when
Matt Williamson, the last character who comes on, said Derek Carkman,
Mike and I looked at each other like, well, there
you go. It's unanimous and.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Just wanted to get that out there. Jared Case. People
were paying close attention, and I.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Think once again, the numbers bore that out for sure.
And look who's next. The Baltimore Ravens five hundred and
nineteen yards rushing in the last two games against the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, not having Roderick Jones for this one, you know,
as much as he has not lived up to expectations.
I mean, they're gonna have an offensive line that is
not at full strength right now.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
What is the best way for them to beat the
Ravens running the wall?
Speaker 11 (34:17):
But your question, know about Broderick Jones, Yeah, I think
they did miss him because the one thing about Broderick Jones,
you know, he's been kind of on the uptick. I
mean he's you know, his play has not been an issue.
So you know, not having him, I'm certainly I'm certain
it probably hurt them.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Well that first play in the second half was a
fumble because you know, the guy coming around Broderick Jones
was off McCormick.
Speaker 11 (34:41):
That was yeah, yeah, he came Yeah, he came up.
Speaker 9 (34:44):
He came inside where Rogers stepped up and you're kind of,
you know, retreating blocking the guy. And then the quarterback
gets in front of the block.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
What are you gonna do? Hold them?
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (34:56):
Yeah, So how do you beat the Ravens. Well, the
first thing is obviously going to have to contain Derrick Henry,
I mean, and and just based on what we have
seen or what was certainly what we saw yesterday, good
good rock with that. But the offense, you know, it's
just you know, if they can't run the ball, then
obviously they're going to be in trouble. And that's been
the case. And when they've been able to run the ball,
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I mean, you know, even looking in in Chicago last week,
the one thing I thought that you could take away
from that game, well, there were two things, and one
was their ability to contain the Bears run game, which
we saw against Philly was can be a daunting but
I thought I like the way their offense answered all
the Bears touchdowns. Bear scored by the offense answers. There
(35:40):
was none of that yesterday, So you know, the Ravens
aren't exactly hitting on all cylinders right now either Cincinnati's
defensive effort. Look, I know, I know the Bengals. You know,
did the Proverbials shoot themselves in a foot losing two
touchdowns the way they did turning the ball over five times?
You know that we see that's really I don't want
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to say that's the only way to Steelers win, but
that's the only way to Steelers win taking the ball away.
And of course they did that early. Uh And but
if they're not taking it over and capitalizing on it, then,
you know, and they can't stop the run. There, they're
in a heap of trouble.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
We were saying, Joey Porter made some great arm tackles
on James Cook, and I'm a little afraid of what
he's gonna have a He's gonna be trying to it's
like tackling Derrick Henry next week is going to be
trying to like tackle Secretariat.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Like it's just not gonna work the same way.
Speaker 11 (36:31):
You know, I'm at least glad you mentioned that because
I thought Joey Porter did a good job because I
made several notes of some of the tackles that he
made because he prevented some long runs with that. And
and wasn't it was Joey Porter was the one who
foiled the Lamar Jackson not at the goal line?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Right?
Speaker 11 (36:50):
Was it last year or two years ago? I remember
blew up that play? Was that on the two point conversion? Well,
t J kind of night through. But Joey was the
one who ended up making the tackle and that's hard
to do on Lamar Jackson. But nonetheless, I thought he
was very I thought he was pretty good in in
run support, if you can say that against the team
that had two hundred and forty nine yards Russia.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, no, it really could have been. Yes, it could
have what you know, for a team loved god Ya.
Speaker 11 (37:21):
I love the fact that t J. Watts said I've
never seen a team run the same play over and
over again and have success doing it. And that was
an indictment. That was an indictment of his own team. Yep,
and his teammates, you know, their failure to stop James
Cook just keep continually bouncing it outside.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I'm not taking anything away from the player's responsibility and
all this, but like it's a group failure and the coaching.
I am just I am completely uh you know, uh
miffed at how Pat Fryarmouth is not utilized more often
in this offense. Uh, John new how he's not utilized
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more often in this offense. I know that he ran
the wrong route on the you know when Aaron checked
to the inside reroute there and he stayed outside.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
But given the.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Foibles of Arthur Smith's offense, not having a true number
two right now, how have they not figured out a
way to get Friarmuth more involved.
Speaker 11 (38:18):
I hate to say it, I don't think they have
a true number one right now when you look at it.
Even the way DK Metcalf very true has performed Randy,
the lack of utilization of Friarmuth has baffled me all year.
It's a guy who's had three state years of sixty
some catches. I just don't get it. You know, Arthur Smith,
(38:38):
I know, you know he loves to utilize all his
tight ends.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I don't think he does. People keep telling me that
I don't think he does.
Speaker 11 (38:46):
No, I'm saying he loves to, but they just, you know,
they just don't involve him. The only time they involve
him is basically, you know, we saw friar Mouth's big
contributions earlier when he had the two touchdowns in the
one game. We see him go down the field, certainly
down the numbers to a certain degree fifteen seventeen yards,
which they can't do with the other tight ends. John
who Smith is for a guy who caught eighty eight
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passes last year in Miami or eighty six, whatever the
number was. I mean, that guy is a non factor
in the offense. And this is an Arthur Smith guy.
And he's just not used at all. And I'm not
saying he's a secret weapon, but he has. He's probably
if there are a number of disappointments this year, he
is right at the top of the list.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
He's a secret Jerry, He's just not a secret weapon.
Don't tell our coordinators that we have him.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
You you have audience with Art Rudey on occasion.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
What do you think the owner's thinking when he's hearing
fans chant for the head coach to be fired in
acrosser stadium and booing renegade.
Speaker 11 (39:51):
The renegade thing was Moose was the most surprising to me,
and it was of course, it was just horrible timing too.
And I know they feel compelled to play it, have
scheduled timeouts, they kind of know when they're going to
play it, but you know, to do it after you're
stopped on fourth and two at the bill seven. You
know the timing wasn't very good. There's no question the
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whole thing is disappointing and frustrating to them. I don't know,
you know when the one thing that will get an
owner's attention. I think the Green Bay game when there
was so many Packers fans, meaning you know, they're obviously
Steeler fans were selling their tickets and so that and
the disgruntlement of the fans. Look, I don't think that's
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going to change anything, but there's no question it has
to get their attention because that's the last thing you
want to lose your fan base. Now, are they going
to lose them? Though they'll you know, I mean some
of them. Yeah, if nothing else, it certainly gets their attention.
They are well aware of that. Every owner is aware
of that when they start seeing not that there's empty
(40:59):
seats at act for sure, but you get my point.
If you're going to start selling it to the other team,
and you're hearing that that gets their things.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
A lot of Bills fans there yesterday as well.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
Yeah, and I expected that because of well because it's
the Bills and you know the Bills mafia. You know
how they traveled. So yeah, there were a.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Lot there and the stadium at the end of the game.
Speaker 11 (41:20):
Yeah, so there's no question. Look, he hears it and
and they don't like it, and is it going to
do any is it going to change anything? No, but
doesn't get their attention.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Do you think that Aaron Rodgers was speaking about people
missing film study that is like as Mike has described it,
you know, the nine to five required stuff, or when
he was saying people didn't show up for it, he
meant the more extracurricular film study that they were doing
throughout the week.
Speaker 11 (41:49):
But yeah, that that's what I took from it. And
and you know, that was the one thing that was
stood out to me yesterday too when t J. Watt
said they were flat and Aaron Rodgers talked about a
lack of energy and tempo in practice, and I know
he you know, he issued the little caveat Look, I've
(42:11):
seen bad practices turn into good games, and I've seen
good practices turn into bad games or become bad games.
But when when you know, when he has this, he's
it's about the third time this year he's talked about
what he senses before a game and what he sees.
So when when you hear that in a game like
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that against the Bills at home, after the after Buffalo,
excuse me, after Baltimore has handed you a little gift
by losing to the Bengals, giving you the opportunity to
reclaim the division by yourself, and they come play the
way they did, h you know, non inspired, no effort.
I don't want to say no effort. I can't gage that.
That's unfair to say. But certainly with no enthusiasm or
(42:54):
energy or tempo to use their words and come out flat,
then to me, that's uh, you know, I don't. I
don't understand that, and you know what, shame on them
for that, you know.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I know Abby can attest to this as well. The
difference between being in a band and on an athletic
team is bad practice means good gig, good gig. Yeah,
usually yeah, bad practice a good gig. But I think
that that's what you just say. Because you just had
a bad practice. You're like, no, no, no, I will
be buying the gig. I've had great, great practices that
result of great gigs.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
You know why though, because everybody goes home individually practices.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Their ass office. They're so scared they're going to be terrible.
That is true.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
And nobody's going home and doing extra studying right the
film on their own.
Speaker 11 (43:36):
And you know, random, I always like to have plaited
a lot of things to go. But the same thing happens.
She knows guys, the same thing happens. Guys have bad
practice sessions before the game, bad warm ups, and then
they go out and you know, and shoot lights out,
and or the opposite happens, good practice session on the range,
go out and play poorly. Yeah, one does not always
correlate to the other. So you know, I don't know
(43:59):
how much way to put into that. But when they
start talking about a lack of energy and tempo and
being flat night, now, to me, that's a whole nother.
That's a whole another story.
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
Cook starts right and finds a hole up the middle
of the field, bursts through straight down the field and
inside the ten yard line before Samuel and Porter can
bring him down. They're gonna mark him down at the seven.
Just burst free for thirty one yards on that run.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
That was James cook long of the day yesterday, on
a one hundred and forty four yard effort. He averaged
four and a half per carry on his thirty two
carries yesterday and just destroyed the Steelers defense, who knew
what was coming and couldn't stop it. An awful day.
They booed renegade, which is kind of like Philly throwing
snowballs at Santa.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's you know.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
It's the highest form of dissident behavior, Yes, of a crowd.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Well, fire, Mike Tomlin, Yeah, is right up there too.
You know, since the Matt Canada days, the Steelers fans
have a very low threshold. And for the Steelers this
week it was week thirteen, or was it week fourteen?
I don't even remember now thirteen.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
That's the first time I remember them chanting fire. Mike Tomlin, same.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think you've heard it audibly. Yeah, Honor Podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I don't know if they ever said that about Bill Cower,
and they were there's a lot of revisionist history about
Bill Cower. People forget he was close to he was
on the hot seat. Steeler fans were sick and tired
of him. He won that Super Bowl that kind of
saved face for him, and then he ducked out nicely
with his career legacy intact and he is remembered as
a revered coach for the entire time he was here.
(01:44):
That was not the case, but his circumstances did not
go on as long as Mike Tomlins have. In terms
of the dissatisfaction of the fan base, I've been putting
up with this for a long time, and the national
media's coloring of the Steeler fan perception of Mike Tomlin
(02:05):
has been so wrong for so long that they just
finally last year started to come around to it a
little bit. Now with Steeler fans booming renegade and chanting
fire Mike Tomlin during the game so loudly that it
made its way onto the CBS broadcast, Well, there's just
no denying it, and you're gonna see it all over
(02:28):
the punditry of the National Football League today that Mike
Tomlin's seat is officially hot.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, I think I.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Said it too, But because going into that game, you know,
the crowd walking into the game was hyped up. Now
you could tell it was sort of like a shaky faith.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That the people had.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
But there was a lot of chanting back and forth
between Bill's fans and Steelers, a lot of here we
go Steelers chance, yeah, going up the rotunda. But you
could tell, deep down in their soul everyone's like, I
don't know about this one, and I think but they
were trying to put on a good face and then
when it started, the wheels fell off. Then everybody jumped
off the band how quick again.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I don't mind losing to the Bills, Jeff, I don't
mind losing to the Bears.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's how you losese.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It's the way they lose, which gives you no hope
that they'll ever turn this thing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Around under the current captain.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
You went to a Bill's tailgate with a friend who's
a Bills fan yesterday, right now, I mean, were you
a little nervous rolling into the Bears or the Bill's
mafia territory?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, cause it's still Mike.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
This is this is still home turf like it was
at the Cardello Building. And but it was funny because
if you that's again a nice thing about the four
o'clock game is it's not night tailgating, which turns into
Thunderdome very quick. It's still like you know, one o'clock tailgating.
Nobody's really quite going insane yet. Now there are some
people getting tuned up, but I have I had good,
(03:48):
pleasant interactions with the Bills fans in a weird way.
I was like, I bet you if you did a
twenty three and me test, there's like a lot of
shared spiritual football DNA between the Bills and the Steelers.
I think it's probably climate. We both live in absolutely
atrocious vitamin D deficiency climates. And I could just tell
like there was some kind of kindred understanding and be like,
(04:09):
all right, like we see over there, it's all good.
It didn't feel like Philly. It didn't feel like Baltimore,
where they're they're alien. To me, that seemed like your cousin.
It seemed like a game against like a cousin that.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
We like, Like they're an AFC team and we don't
have as much of a grudge built up as we
do with Eagles fans. Yeah, yeah, but I think just
as a Flyers related thing and just kind of Pittsburgh, Philadelphia,
all things related. You know, Buffalo's in New York. You know,
it's kind of like there's a state line of demarcation
for us.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Seems like, like you said, we share a lot of
the same time, I feel pretty ambivalent towards most NFC teams,
But again, my time at Penn State led me to
seethe with broiling hate anything that has to do with
any any Eagles propaganda whatsoever. Being a Penn State grid
as well, I can tell you as a Western Pennsylvanian,
you will absolutely hate Philadelphia and New Jersey when you
(04:59):
leave Penn State. Yeah yeah, but no, I mean Bill's
fans were pretty pretty cool for the most part, so
it was sort of hard to really hate on him,
you know, especially, I mean they were dogging us, and
you were just like, hey, good for you.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We kind of deserved the spanking here.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
We deserved the dogg In Yeah, bad day Yesterday from
Mike Tom and a Company twenty six to seven, his
quarterback calling out players in the post hit game press
conference that's going to make.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Major news today. TJ. Watt has had it up to hear.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Cam Hayward was pissed at Josh Allen said he got
need in the stomach. Josh Allen even fested up to
it to him so like, hey, I had to get
you off of me. Uh, And he wasn't wanting to
comment about Aaron Rodgers' comments. He was asked, what did
you think of the fact that Aaron basically called you guys,
you know, unprepared and said you're stofting some of the
(05:46):
players aren't doing everything they should.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
He said, go ask Aaron, you know, well.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I think that's a little on because Cam probably hadn't
actually heard the verbatim statement which Aaron Rodgers was basically
saying we didn't. There was no film There was a
couple of film sessions that got this specifically, and the
reporter painted it as you're not prepared. If I'm Cam,
I'm not answering that question because I probably have my
own opinion of why we're not prepared, but I don't
want to add to the to the to the fire
(06:10):
that might have got thrown out.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Think the reporter was hoping Cam would be like, oh,
was he talking about DK.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, I think that's exactly what they were going. He
was savvy enough to kind of be like, all right,
I'll take that one in house. How is your Thanksgiving
at the Conco House. By the way, we consolidated this year.
So typically, if anybody's out there that has two sets
of grandparents that are in the Greater Pittsburgh area, you
have to take your children on what I like to
(06:35):
call the you know, the Eastern leg World Tour.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
On Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
You got to you got to eat a dinner at
one thirty and then another one at six thirty. But
this year, my mom hosted my in laws, so they
all came down one location, one shot, one turkey, one kill,
and we were home at eight fifteen.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Phenomenal, phenomenal way to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I had, you know, the usual suspects, my sister in laws,
in laws hurt. Well, my sister in law's sisters in
laws come so they're like twice removed. But I've known
this family for a long time because we've done Thanksgiving
every year for like twenty years, and they hit their kids.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They do it right, man. They're like, uh, you know, we're.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Kind of at the age, we don't want to be
like just sitting around like the limited couch space or
taking up floor for too long.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And we've got a mom's Thanksgiving to go to.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Also, you know, they're one of those kind and I
grew up doing that same thing, and so we're one
stop on their They come in there, Hey, what's going on.
They make a plate, they eat it really quick. They
give a few hugs if you get a walk right
out the door. And I'm like, that was masterful, and
they took ye. I'm telling you, at this day and age,
there's so much.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
From probably Tuesday night last week on till Sunday night
was NonStop socialization, getting invited to things. These are all
first world problems, good problems to have, but at one
point we started to have We started to have to
send delegations. We couldn't go as a family unit because
there was too much to do. So I sent my
wife and one son to a family delegation on one thing,
(08:09):
and me and my other son went to another one
just to make an appearance as the ambassador of the
Southern concoles and uh and make an appearance and you know,
have good pr relations and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
So it was just NonStop socialization to the point where
the Steelers game. I got up on Sunday morning was like, okay,
I got one more in me. I was like trying
to get myself amped up. I was like, okay, I
can drink four more beers.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Like but I know. I texted my.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Buddy a stupid meme early on Sunday and he was like, dude,
I'm so glad this wasn't an invitation to.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
The Steelers game. He's like, I thought you're gonna say,
let's go to the game.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, Like, no, no, I'm out of town because I
mean with the Steelers game, going down, tailgating everything like that,
you you're you're ending the week with a flourish of activity,
which at that point I did not I had.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I was running on fumes like I didn't. I don't know.
If you're into it though, you can't. You can't approach
it lightly. You just if you decide to do it,
you do it.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, and we did, and that's why we went right
then to the heart of the you know, the Bill's
tailgate and everything, and it turned out to be fun.
Once it's getting out the door, it's getting out the door.
Or if you've got the smell of pancakes in your
house and it's warm, you don't want to be putting
Long Johns on. But as soon as you get out there,
it's it's fine. Did you avoid the fireball shots and
stuff like that? No fireball shots, No saw no tables
get broken. I was really hoping that somebody would have
(09:22):
would have, you know, done a moon salt through a table,
But nothing doing down there.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Too cold for that. Yeah, they losing their last two?
What are they gonnaout? What's your leftover game? Looking like?
It's not bad?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I like I said, I kind of punished on the
turkey and the green beans because I still was trying
to be responsible on the leftover stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But no, it's not It's not bad. Honestly, I have
to say, I don't want to brag about it, but guys,
the side dish that I brought was the only thing
that was totally gone.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Okay, what what I brought all the boys to the yard?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I cannot believe this. I cannot believe this. It was
roasted vegetables. I did this big eat the rainbow. These
dude people want there's lain there's no vegetables. No, no, no, no,
it's got a good dressing.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
The dressing is a is a what I'm saying is
compared to the mayonnaise laden broccoli casserole. Oh that's a
light that's light fare that maybe people want on their
on their dishes.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
He's got a tangy dressing to it, and it's got
just the right amount of salt.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
But then it's got like really fresh herbs, so the
presentation really colorful.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's nice to the eye flower in there. No no,
hell no, okay, hell no. What time did you eat?
Two o'clock? Good time.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We went a little later than normal, so we were
waiting for a buddy. A buddy of ours does this
big charity thing at the restaurant he owns. Every year
he feeds the homeless. He feeds five hundred people or
more every year. He's been doing it for twenty years.
And he picked up the tradition from the restaurant we
grew up going to, which is like our local pizza
place on the east side of the ere Pos. Pizza
is amazing, and they used to feed the homeless and
(10:52):
there they were a tiny but they weren't well you
know what I mean. They were They were barely, yes,
but they always so he picked up the tradition. He's
been doing it for years. And he goes, hey, I'm
coming out to eat with you guys. Afterwards, We're like, great,
we'll wait a little while and he's like okay, and
then it comes to around three o'clock or so, he's like, hey,
it's this is take forever. I'll be out after five.
(11:14):
He goes, don't wait for me, you guys eat. So
we end up eating around four o'clock or something like that. Well,
and I'm like, yeah, he'll probably be a little later
than five. Well, five comes and goes, six comes and goes,
seven comes.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And who whoa?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Eight comes and goes, all right, he's probably not coming
out understandable on the day to day whatever, you know,
we have everything put away. We're settled down to watch planes,
trains and automobiles. He rolls into the door like hitting
a vape and he's like and he's like yo, and
he's got a buddy with him, and he goes what
and he goes plus one and we're like sweatpants, like
(11:48):
what you know, we're movie watching.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
We're farting on a count, right, and he's like, you
guys already eat.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
We're like it's eight forty five, four hours and he's like,
oh man, and I'm like, come on, And so we
all got up and like brought out all the food
and like, you know, made a dinner for and then
it turned into here, I was just dozing off on
the couch and now all of a sudden, I am
in a four hour session of having drinks and listening
to music. And then it's two o'clock in the morning
(12:15):
and my brother and I are looking at each other
like we were out. We were on the couch, we
were ready to.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Sleep, we were all gonna pass out. It was gonna
be great. And then you know, our buddy walked in
and we started just everybody got a second win. Did
anyone know this? Plus one stranger?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, he's a is he frequent? Like, No, he's a
he's his blessed one everywhere. He's always got this guy
that's just like hanging around with him.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You know what I mean. I'm sorry to explain, but yeah,
you rolled in. We're like, hey, how are you? And
uh rolled out the food, gave him plates and then I.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Don't know, it just kicked everyone in the gear and
then we started talking music and then we started fighting,
and then I played them that weird weird.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Out, weird out. You showed me the foil. Yeah, it's
so good.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I don't know bringing a bringing a unannounced plus plus one,
I feel I can go if you if you have
some kind of idea of the person, then I think
that's one thing. It might be a pleasant seise. If
it's a Hey, this is Bob. I just met him
last week. Anyway, he's cool.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
He came back and go amendment the homeless feeding today. Anyways,
he seems cool. Cany stay here.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
No, but that guy, no, we know him, but he
would never come on his own. He would only come
as a plus one. You know what I'm saying now.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
It was nice in my in my Thanksgiving situation because
my wife's mom is an excellent cook like so, and
they've come down to my parents beforehand. Now, if you
know anything about me, uh, you could probably tell that
my parents are a teeny bit absent minded. There's been
several Christmases and Thanksgivings where my mom at four forty,
will go, why is the oven not on? And then
(13:45):
it turns into a ninety five Thanksgiving, So just as
a backup, my mother in.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Law was just like, I'm just going to cook a
backup turkey. Yeah, so she brought a full backup turkey
just in case, just in case Rudolph, Yeah, mustache on it. Yeah,
that somebody's microwave is on the fritz or something like that. Yeah,
it worked out great. Yeah. My brother actually does that.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
He cooks his own at his house and then our
our family home, Like, he makes one there and then
I'm like, well, dude, you want to take some of
these leftovers with you And he's like.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Now I got one at home already. I'm like, what
is this case?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, I make a separate one. I don't trust that
you guys are going to leave anything. And I'm like
that's probably a good balance.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Well, turkeys get handed out this time of year, like
like turkeys basically, I mean everyone's hand in turkey's out.
So I guarantee you our listener base right now is
sitting on three frozen turkeys somewhere in their overlapped social
circle that they're just gonna have to use at some point.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I had to run up and get like Rosemary in time,
like from a giant eagle at like two o'clock, right,
and I'm like, I'll go up, you know the giant
Eagles open. It always drives me kind of crazy. I
feel so bad for the people who have to work there.
And I'm like, hi, Eli, thanks for working today, buddy,
and he's like, no problem, I don't care anywhere to go.
(14:55):
I'm like this, But there was a guy behind me
with a full turkey, just sitting in line, and I'm like,
it's like two o'clock. You know you got to defrost
that sucker that's gonna throw microwave, Like, dude, it's a.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Good way to get worms today.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah, there's not that. You're You're out of lock at
that point, buddy, you got to go to Rby's.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well. Speaking of worms, we made the determination earlier this
morning that your leftovers are still good today.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Today's the last day you've got to eat them today.
And I got one big plate.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I'm gonna take a calculated risk on that one. Really, yeah,
I'll let that ride for two more days.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
There. We got enough turkey in there. I'm gonna let
that ride. I'm gonna freeze the turkey I've left after today.
It's I have too much. I got too much. Also
too much pie, way too much pie.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, we had a couple of backup pies that are
still sitting around and you know, not letting those go
the waste, that's that's getting hit up. Sometimes those are
getting hit up for breakfast. Have a breakfast pie, breakfast
pie with two coffee. Are you kidding me? I had
breakfast pie the last three days. I'm probably gonna go
home and have some brunch pie.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But one of the good things about Thanksgiving Day was
the football games were fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What they were for me because I was on the
right side of things.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
But the first halftime show, I was excited for the
Detroit game, Yes, when I heard that Jack White was.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Going to be out there, and it went well and
I think it got high marks. Jack White was joined
by bellow Detroit native Eminem during the halftime show of
the Green Bay Detroit Lions game, and that was at
Ford Field on Thanksgiving. So the collaboration we talked about,
it wasn't a huge surprise because Eminem was the producer
of that halftime show and so there was always going
(16:35):
to be a possibility maybe that he would pop up,
but maybe you couldn't totally imagine it. To me, it
wasn't a surprise because Jack White has worked with rap
artists before. He worked with Beyonce on her record. I've
seen him pop up on a bunch of stuff. But
like he started his set with That's how I'm Feeling
from his solo album No Name, so he busts out
(16:56):
with that. He started with the White Stripes Hello Operator.
In the middle of Hello Operator, Eminem comes out to
rap to like Collapse and it was kind of a
collaboration there.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So here's a little bit of that. I loved it.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
I'm just.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Turn it up a little awesome.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
I thought.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I thought it was awesome, and I love the way
that Jack White kind of had the interplay between the
two of them. I don't know, there's something cool about
that Detroit respect that was having there.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I kind of liked that it did. It worked.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I might, you know, the White Stripes just because of
Seven Nation Army. There's like a whole generation of kids,
like my ten year old knows who Jack White is.
They like that Archbishop Harold Holmes song was out this
last summer.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
That sons so bizarre.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
It's so I know, it's weird, but it was cool
and it stuck around like a lot of at least
kids are you know that that age seemed to really
like it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So it seemed even though he's sort of a not quie.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I wouldn't want to say a legacy act at this point,
but a little bit on that side of things, but
it seemed fresh, even in the context of that halftime show.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
He did close this out with seven Nation Army, which
we can hear a little bit of that as we
were watching it at Thanksgiving, Like all of my family
were going like, what is.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That garbage guitar he's playing? And I'm like, that's kind
of his thing. I love the delay I kept making.
(19:16):
The drummer must have had it, just had oh yeah,
about the same thing up. Don't think that's what.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I've heard this song a billion times, and I gotta
tell you I'm still not.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Quite totally sick of it.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I mean this part the crowd went crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I mean he had them in the palm of his hand,
and I know he's the hometown boy and everything, but
that was just such a badass performance. And then the
Cowboys game, who did that halftime? Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Post Malone?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, apparently post Malone hung out after the game and
was like playing pickup football with a couple of his
buddies on that field for a couple of hours, which
is a pretty cool, Like if you play halftime.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You're like, I'll do it on one condition.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, he might be And I get to use the
field for two hours and play pickup game with my buddies.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, that's your Turkey Bowl. That's pretty to me.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
That shows you that this is sort of why I
think people forgive post Malone for you know, what might
be considered sort of subpar musical ability is because he's
just seems like you want him as your friend.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That makes it because he'll kind of bring you to
that stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah exactly. Hey, you want to play your Turkey Bowl
at AT and T Stadium?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yes I do.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Mice got a full report on last night's debacle, the
loss to the Bills twenty six to seven at home
fire Mike Tomlin, Chance, they boo renegade. Thanksgiving Week could
not have ended worse for Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers,
but it can all turn around Sunday with a win
in Baltimore over the Well. Their first play, they're both
(21:07):
six and six and it's technically, I guess the Ravens
have a game in hand somehow.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Why do they have one up on us because we
lost to the Bengals? Is that what it is? Is
it the AFC northn record tiebreaker? It's the division record? Yeah, okay,
we have no head to head obviously.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
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Speaker 4 (22:17):
Twenty six Steelers seven. The Steelers are now six and
six Mike, and with a win over the Ravens this weekend,
they'd be atop the awful AFC North.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
They are currently not a top to awful AFC North
because of record in common games with Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's the current tiebreaker. Might be the Chicago game. Yeah,
because they both lost to the Bengals. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
As for what we saw yesterday afternoon and evening, after
one of the most disastrous game day performances in Akrosher
Stadium history, Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers found himself talking about practice.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We look at it.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I'm not sure. I thought we had a better preparation
week and a poor practice week for whatever reason. I'm
not sure if it was a cold weather or what
it was, but it wasn't our best week of practice.
That doesn't always translate to a negative performance. There's been
great practice weeks and bad performances, and poor practice weeks
and great performances over the twenty many years of my career.
(23:22):
But it wasn't the best practice week. So we got
a practice and the elements better and the execution again
just wasn't where it was. I can give you a
better ants on Wednesday, but let me look at the
film first.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
Lack of energy was one of the things he cited
about the actual physical practices.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
So I know that you like to put the onus
on players for stuff like this, but at what point
is it a coach's responsibility to make sure these practices
have the requisite energy.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
When the game plays out and they lose, you can
do the autosogy you gotta win games. If you're not
winning games, it's all on the coach. That's where it starts.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I think it probably is tough too for because he
said in his statement right there, like listen, I've been
in the league for twenty years. We've had bad practice weeks.
That doesn't always translate to we're going to dog it
in a game. But I think that if everything is
trending that way and practice is bad, then that's no good.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, because he brought it up.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I mean, having that Kyriat is nice, but you don't
bring it up if you don't think that's the reason.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I think he was also trying to give some answer
to what just happened right there and maybe search it
for someone wet.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
But yeah, but I would be more intended to agree
with Randy that, yeah, he wants to see that change.
And he was, of course asked a fall about that,
and he said, they're doing what they need to do.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
They just need to do it better.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
A lot of things. You know, we had some extra
film sessions this week, had extra sure and walk through
Saturday night. So I thought the preparation, like I said,
was better, but the practice wasn't as good as I
thought it was. That doesn't mean you have a bad performance,
but the execution today just wasn't good enough.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
No, he's talking about extra stuff we heard from Rogers
today where he said not showing up the film session
that right. I think he's revealing that that was additional
homework if you will.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Well, I look forward to hearing Mike Tomlin's take on
all of that when he's asked about it this week,
and if it's something that helps feel yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
One thing Rogers was adam about Bill's twenty six Steelers
seven and the wild inconsistencies that we've seen on the
way to six and six. That stuff's on the players,
not the coaching staff.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
I know what you're trying to ask, and I'm not
going to go down that road at all. I believe
in the coaching staff. I believe in Mike Tumlin's why
I came here. And players need to take accountability and
I will and I will continue to. I got to
play better. But there's eleven stars on offense, eleven on defense,
plus with the personnel groups that we run, and we're
(26:10):
gonna have a Monday to Saturday. We can be really
proud of our best Monday to Saturday and go out
and play our best game and take control of the division.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Ten years ago, I would have been okay with Aaron
Rodgers playing that game with the limitations that he had
because of the left wrist injury at forty one years
of age and having the limitations that he has, I
don't think there's any way he should have started this game.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't think he should have been I.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Mean, emergency quarterback designation or something like that. He severely
hampered what they could do on offense, and they prepared
for a very limited output when the key to this
was very simply run the hell out of the ball
all day, and by playing Aaron Rodgers, you limited your
ability to be successful running the ball.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Your best sense to do it's under center, and they
took that away way on their own. Yes, and it
did not work, and it did not work in spectacular fashion,
I think, and I'm just going to speculate here. I
think part of the decision making process was Mason Rudolph
against the Bears played okay, but not well enough to win. Now,
(27:19):
none of them played well enough to win. But he
missed all of his deep shots, Yes, and he couldn't
get them in the right formation at the end of
the game when everything was at stake, and they ran
that snap with Kenneth Gangwell in the wrong spot and
it was an illegal formation and you saw Rogers on
the side. Oh my god, we're in the wrong right
like you're hoping with Rogers. That doesn't happen. I'm guessing here.
(27:43):
Can't the coaches call time out there?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Too? You can, But I think we only had like one,
we only have one left at that the Bears.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
That one.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
They had all three, but you're you're saving those in
case it doesn't work, and then you get the ball
back because that was the second to last possession. And
you know, I talked to Calvin Austin about that last
week and he said, I should have just stepped up, Like,
at least we would have been in the right formation.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Even though he wasn't the one that was supposed to do.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
Yeah, at least would have been a legal play, even
though the formation would have been screwed up.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Now, how screwed up would it have been?
Speaker 9 (28:14):
If he's two feet ahead of where he was, would
he still not have been able to scramble for twenty
two yards? They're just in a bad spot right now.
They're groping. Well, they should have played Mason. Yeah, I
don't think there's any question.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
And then lived with what limited passing attack you'd be
able to use against them.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I don't know how much.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Passing attack there was going to be yesterday. I mean
there was tents getting blown out. Yeah, the wind on
the field, like Lynn Swan was trying to weigh the
terrible twel and it wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It took him aloft. Yes, yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
Was tweet a picture from the stadium before the pregame
show and say, hey, pregame shows coming on, Listen to
it because that's what you do now. And I took
one of the American flag atop the scoreboard and it
was roped.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I mean it was. Yeah, the wind was a factor.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You know.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
You get up there, you run the ball, you get
yourself into third and three, and then you can do
either one.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Do a little play action, boot, do a little dump down.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I'm weren't you surprised that he said that he was
throwing to account for the wind on the one the
Wilson where he missed him completely.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Aaron Rodgers, Oh, yeah, he sailed it on him.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Was I surprised he was accounting for the wind? Yes, no,
because that seemed to be way too far, even for
the wind. He thought the wind was gonna knock it
down a little bit. Yeah, I don't know why, and
it didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
But I thought that was even by the way he
reacted in real time, I thought that was on Roman
Wilson not getting to where he was supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
They made it sound like it was on him, which
I don't think he would do if it wasn't. No,
he doesn't strike me, he said, he my fault.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (29:54):
Yeah, I threw it for four touchdowns in five hundred
yards but it's on me.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Ben Roethlisberger is my favorite. Ben.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You threw for five hundred yards and six touchdowns today.
Somehow the team lost forty one to thirty eight. Yeah,
I got to be better. Well, you set every franchise
record for one game performance.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, I gotta be better.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
Steelers are Ravens at plus six and six. The Ravens
have a minus four point differential. The Steelers have a
minus eight point differential. Steelers have scored eight fewer points
than the Ravens and allowed for fewer.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I'm surprised that close. I don't know why. Wow, seems crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Jerry do Like will be joining us here in just
a little bit. We'll check in with Jerry get his
postgame take on what went down there, plus maybe an
update on a couple of the injuries. Rob King with
a power hour of Steeler talk coming up at nine
o'clock here on DVE.
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(31:25):
do like ladies and gentlemen, Jerry Dego morning.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
How are you?
Speaker 11 (31:28):
Yeah, Randall, I'm fine. How are you mate?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm all right. So here's my question to you.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
If Mike Tomlin had to do it all over again,
would he allow Aaron Rodgers to start with that banged
up left wrist?
Speaker 11 (31:41):
Well, Uh, the simple answer to that question is yes,
he would because he believes in what he does, and
he looks at that gave He feels that gave them
the best option to win.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
But seeing that he was so limited it actually affected
the running game. He might want no rethought that.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
Like actually oh yeah, you know, yeah, perhaps in retrospect.
But to you to your question, Randall, I don't think
there's any question beyond whatever limitations he had. He just
looked uncomfortable playing and and you know, and I'm sure
you know, wondering when he's going to take the first
(32:21):
hit on the risk, what if he falls? How's it
going to respond, you know what I mean. So he
just looked kind of just uncomfortable, out of sorts most
of the time. Obviously his numbers bear that up, but
you could just see in the way he was playing
early on that certainly seemed to be the case. And Yeah,
I don't know that Mason Rudolph would have been a
better option in retrospect. Yeah, probably because the offense really
(32:44):
couldn't perform much worse. So I don't I just think
that I don't. I don't think there's any questions. You
know that he was definitely going to be limited and
and and it did. I mean, the numbers speak for themselves.
You know, sees Low's first downs yards. Obviously it wasn't
very pretty.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I have five words that I don't know any Pittsburgh
Steelers fan has asked ever, But did we miss Broderick Jones?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (33:12):
I don't think that was a bigger issue. I you know,
Mike and I discussed this on the pregame show, and
we talked about it with Max, and I think Mike
just went right down to Gauntlet and asked everybody who came,
whoever else appears on the show, who will they miss more?
Broderick Jones or.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You know, Derek Derek Harmon, and it wasmous.
Speaker 11 (33:32):
And it was unanimous. In fact, I think even when
Matt Williamson, the last character who comes on, said Derek Carkman,
Mike and I looked at each other like, well, there
you go. It's unanimous and.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Just wanted to get that out there. Jared Case. People
were paying close attention, and I.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Think once again, the numbers bore that out for sure.
And look who's next. The Baltimore Ravens five hundred and
nineteen yards rushing in the last two games against the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, not having Roderick Jones for this one, you know,
as much as he has not lived up to expectations.
I mean, they're gonna have an offensive line that is
not at full strength right now.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
What is the best way for them to beat the
Ravens running the wall?
Speaker 11 (34:17):
But your question, know about Broderick Jones, Yeah, I think
they did miss him because the one thing about Broderick Jones,
you know, he's been kind of on the uptick. I
mean he's you know, his play has not been an issue.
So you know, not having him, I'm certainly I'm certain
it probably hurt them.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Well that first play in the second half was a
fumble because you know, the guy coming around Broderick Jones
was off McCormick.
Speaker 11 (34:41):
That was yeah, yeah, he came Yeah, he came up.
Speaker 9 (34:44):
He came inside where Rogers stepped up and you're kind of,
you know, retreating blocking the guy. And then the quarterback
gets in front of the block.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
What are you gonna do? Hold them?
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (34:56):
Yeah, So how do you beat the Ravens. Well, the
first thing is obviously going to have to contain Derrick Henry,
I mean, and and just based on what we have
seen or what was certainly what we saw yesterday, good
good rock with that. But the offense, you know, it's
just you know, if they can't run the ball, then
obviously they're going to be in trouble. And that's been
the case. And when they've been able to run the ball,
(35:18):
I mean, you know, even looking in in Chicago last week,
the one thing I thought that you could take away
from that game, well, there were two things, and one
was their ability to contain the Bears run game, which
we saw against Philly was can be a daunting but
I thought I like the way their offense answered all
the Bears touchdowns. Bear scored by the offense answers. There
(35:40):
was none of that yesterday, So you know, the Ravens
aren't exactly hitting on all cylinders right now either Cincinnati's
defensive effort. Look, I know, I know the Bengals. You know,
did the Proverbials shoot themselves in a foot losing two
touchdowns the way they did turning the ball over five times?
You know that we see that's really I don't want
(36:01):
to say that's the only way to Steelers win, but
that's the only way to Steelers win taking the ball away.
And of course they did that early. Uh And but
if they're not taking it over and capitalizing on it, then,
you know, and they can't stop the run. There, they're
in a heap of trouble.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
We were saying, Joey Porter made some great arm tackles
on James Cook, and I'm a little afraid of what
he's gonna have a He's gonna be trying to it's
like tackling Derrick Henry next week is going to be
trying to like tackle Secretariat.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Like it's just not gonna work the same way.
Speaker 11 (36:31):
You know, I'm at least glad you mentioned that because
I thought Joey Porter did a good job because I
made several notes of some of the tackles that he
made because he prevented some long runs with that. And
and wasn't it was Joey Porter was the one who
foiled the Lamar Jackson not at the goal line?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Right?
Speaker 11 (36:50):
Was it last year or two years ago? I remember
blew up that play? Was that on the two point conversion? Well,
t J kind of night through. But Joey was the
one who ended up making the tackle and that's hard
to do on Lamar Jackson. But nonetheless, I thought he
was very I thought he was pretty good in in
run support, if you can say that against the team
that had two hundred and forty nine yards Russia.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, no, it really could have been. Yes, it could
have what you know, for a team loved god Ya.
Speaker 11 (37:21):
I love the fact that t J. Watts said I've
never seen a team run the same play over and
over again and have success doing it. And that was
an indictment. That was an indictment of his own team. Yep,
and his teammates, you know, their failure to stop James
Cook just keep continually bouncing it outside.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I'm not taking anything away from the player's responsibility and
all this, but like it's a group failure and the coaching.
I am just I am completely uh you know, uh
miffed at how Pat Fryarmouth is not utilized more often
in this offense. Uh, John new how he's not utilized
(37:59):
more often in this offense. I know that he ran
the wrong route on the you know when Aaron checked
to the inside reroute there and he stayed outside.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
But given the.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Foibles of Arthur Smith's offense, not having a true number
two right now, how have they not figured out a
way to get Friarmuth more involved.
Speaker 11 (38:18):
I hate to say it, I don't think they have
a true number one right now when you look at it.
Even the way DK Metcalf very true has performed Randy,
the lack of utilization of Friarmuth has baffled me all year.
It's a guy who's had three state years of sixty
some catches. I just don't get it. You know, Arthur Smith,
(38:38):
I know, you know he loves to utilize all his
tight ends.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I don't think he does. People keep telling me that
I don't think he does.
Speaker 11 (38:46):
No, I'm saying he loves to, but they just, you know,
they just don't involve him. The only time they involve
him is basically, you know, we saw friar Mouth's big
contributions earlier when he had the two touchdowns in the
one game. We see him go down the field, certainly
down the numbers to a certain degree fifteen seventeen yards,
which they can't do with the other tight ends. John
who Smith is for a guy who caught eighty eight
(39:07):
passes last year in Miami or eighty six, whatever the
number was. I mean, that guy is a non factor
in the offense. And this is an Arthur Smith guy.
And he's just not used at all. And I'm not
saying he's a secret weapon, but he has. He's probably
if there are a number of disappointments this year, he
is right at the top of the list.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
He's a secret Jerry, He's just not a secret weapon.
Don't tell our coordinators that we have him.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
You you have audience with Art Rudey on occasion.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
What do you think the owner's thinking when he's hearing
fans chant for the head coach to be fired in
acrosser stadium and booing renegade.
Speaker 11 (39:51):
The renegade thing was Moose was the most surprising to me,
and it was of course, it was just horrible timing too.
And I know they feel compelled to play it, have
scheduled timeouts, they kind of know when they're going to
play it, but you know, to do it after you're
stopped on fourth and two at the bill seven. You
know the timing wasn't very good. There's no question the
(40:14):
whole thing is disappointing and frustrating to them. I don't know,
you know when the one thing that will get an
owner's attention. I think the Green Bay game when there
was so many Packers fans, meaning you know, they're obviously
Steeler fans were selling their tickets and so that and
the disgruntlement of the fans. Look, I don't think that's
(40:37):
going to change anything, but there's no question it has
to get their attention because that's the last thing you
want to lose your fan base. Now, are they going
to lose them? Though they'll you know, I mean some
of them. Yeah, if nothing else, it certainly gets their attention.
They are well aware of that. Every owner is aware
of that when they start seeing not that there's empty
(40:59):
seats at act for sure, but you get my point.
If you're going to start selling it to the other team,
and you're hearing that that gets their things.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
A lot of Bills fans there yesterday as well.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
Yeah, and I expected that because of well because it's
the Bills and you know the Bills mafia. You know
how they traveled. So yeah, there were a.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Lot there and the stadium at the end of the game.
Speaker 11 (41:20):
Yeah, so there's no question. Look, he hears it and
and they don't like it, and is it going to
do any is it going to change anything? No, but
doesn't get their attention.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Do you think that Aaron Rodgers was speaking about people
missing film study that is like as Mike has described it,
you know, the nine to five required stuff, or when
he was saying people didn't show up for it, he
meant the more extracurricular film study that they were doing
throughout the week.
Speaker 11 (41:49):
But yeah, that that's what I took from it. And
and you know, that was the one thing that was
stood out to me yesterday too when t J. Watt
said they were flat and Aaron Rodgers talked about a
lack of energy and tempo in practice, and I know
he you know, he issued the little caveat Look, I've
(42:11):
seen bad practices turn into good games, and I've seen
good practices turn into bad games or become bad games.
But when when you know, when he has this, he's
it's about the third time this year he's talked about
what he senses before a game and what he sees.
So when when you hear that in a game like
(42:32):
that against the Bills at home, after the after Buffalo,
excuse me, after Baltimore has handed you a little gift
by losing to the Bengals, giving you the opportunity to
reclaim the division by yourself, and they come play the
way they did, h you know, non inspired, no effort.
I don't want to say no effort. I can't gage that.
That's unfair to say. But certainly with no enthusiasm or
(42:54):
energy or tempo to use their words and come out flat,
then to me, that's uh, you know, I don't. I
don't understand that, and you know what, shame on them
for that, you know.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I know Abby can attest to this as well. The
difference between being in a band and on an athletic
team is bad practice means good gig, good gig. Yeah,
usually yeah, bad practice a good gig. But I think
that that's what you just say. Because you just had
a bad practice. You're like, no, no, no, I will
be buying the gig. I've had great, great practices that
result of great gigs.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
You know why though, because everybody goes home individually practices.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Their ass office. They're so scared they're going to be terrible.
That is true.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
And nobody's going home and doing extra studying right the
film on their own.
Speaker 11 (43:36):
And you know, random, I always like to have plaited
a lot of things to go. But the same thing happens.
She knows guys, the same thing happens. Guys have bad
practice sessions before the game, bad warm ups, and then
they go out and you know, and shoot lights out,
and or the opposite happens, good practice session on the range,
go out and play poorly. Yeah, one does not always
correlate to the other. So you know, I don't know
(43:59):
how much way to put into that. But when they
start talking about a lack of energy and tempo and
being flat night, now, to me, that's a whole nother.
That's a whole another story.
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