December 2, 2025 • 40 mins
Gene Steratore joins the show to do his best defending the NFL refs after one of their worst collective performances so far this season.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Guaranteed human.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What's funny is I would listen to you guys well
when I live in California it's still May with my dogs,
and I listen on two speed, and then if it
goes to like regular speed, it seems like you guys
are slower than reality. Makes sense, Yes, no, because the
same thing happens to me when I listen to the
part of my Take podcast if I listened to it
on one, because occasionally I'll get home and I'll want
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to keep hearing whoever they're interviewing, and I'll put it
on my home Sono system and it doesn't let you
speed it up when you do that, so it goes
back to just normal speed.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And they all sound like they have CTE.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, they're all of a sudden just I'm like, boy,
these guys aren't as witty as I thought.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
They're not nearly as quick as I thought.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Or like the next button from two point zho is
back too point five. It immediately sounds like like Madden's
having a stroke.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Andy Bellman and the DV morning show Everybuddy.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Joe Barnick is with us this morning, and it's always
good to see you, pal, and I want to thank
you for coming out to the Smalls waltz that we
did before Thanksgiving there.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Thank me. I want to thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That was one of the great I mean, and I've
had a lot of fun concerts in my life. That
was one of the best things I have ever been
a part of. I mean, everybody, I'm sorry if you
can say his name, the country dude John By, John
Binley with the harmonica guy.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
They raised the bar.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Joe Griskey, of course, the legend raised the bar.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Clinton Clegg raised the bar.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The other blues guy was incredible, Jimmy Eyler and Just
and Minda is Just but everybody, all the horns, the
ladies singing. It was just an incredible night of music
and the fans, all the DV people there.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
It was one of the best nights I've had a
long long time. It was.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I've gotten word that it was once again a little
too crowded, so I tried to put some some stops
on the total sales with the club so that people
didn't feel as crowded.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But maybe that got ignored.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That was my old man smarts. Though You're like, you
wanna be on the floor, I'm like, is there seats
on the floor, I'll be sitting on top. I did
to see although you could have shook your butt the
whole time. Yeah, it was that good. It was just
like I need this, especially with the gout. Yeah, yeah,
you're dealing with the cat. Well, you had a lot
of injuries. You were nursing that night. You play hurt
when the rambles going on. I've waited like five years
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to see that show. I know it was worth it,
absolutely worth it. And you know, you know, I mean,
I'm you know, I love Clinton, but that might have
been one of the best he's ever been.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I totally agree. And next year's the fiftieth anniversary of
the Last Wall. So while we were thinking about maybe
that would have been the last one we do a
couple of weeks ago. We're gonna have to do it
for the fiftith anniversary next year, and then that'll probably
be the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'm sure it'll yeah, that'll be the last one.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, no, because it's you know, it'll cease to be special.
But every year, the amount of people there's an after party,
and the amount of people who come up to the
after party in the funhouse and just tell me how
much they love that that show. It's you know, it's
gospel to people. And you saw Thanksgiving at least in
my algorithm, the amount of people who make it a
Thanksgiving tradition to.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Watch the Last Waltz every year.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And you worked for Bill Graham, Joe Bartnick, the guy
who was the mind behind the Turkey dinner aspect at
the winter In Ballroom when they held the Last Waltz,
all of the people in attendance, it was a twenty
five dollars upgrade on your ticket and you got a
full Thanksgiving meal before the concert started.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, I mean Bill was always innovative and everything was
just super cool. That's why worked at the film Wore
was the best because you got the best of every band. Yeah,
if they just played Bakersfield then Fresno, they waited all
week to get to the Film Wore, So you got
the best of the best. Yeah, you know what the
red I want to say for people who aren't even
familiar with the Last Waltz or it was just a
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great show, Like you could know none of those songs
and don't even know who the band is, and the
music and the entertainers and the musicianship was just incredible
and the thing that you put it together, you and Minda,
it's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well that's nice you to say.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But hopefully next year we'll get it done once again
and maybe we'll do like gobble ritos instead of having
a full.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Part of it. Is it weird too though?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's like you could put in a bigger place, but
they wouldn't lose.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It would absolutely would.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, it's gonna have that vibe where people are kind
of sharing the experience together, but you.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Got to split the gobblerito. Yeah, I'm not going to
watch the show.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Might weigh you down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But we were able to raise over eight thousand dollars
for the Greater Pittsburgh Community Food Bank at a time
of the.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Year when they desperately need it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So we got all the musicians paid, we got the
venue paid, and we were able to make a huge donation.
So I was really glad about that aspect of things.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
All right, Abby's got a news update for you. What's
going on News.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
This hour brought to you by Keystone Basement system Sweat Basement,
Keystone Basementsystems, dot Com, Snow and flurries this morning up
to an inch. It seems like the storm total could
be one to three inches. Snow can make the roads slippery,
and we're seeing a lot of accidents this morning and
also a lot of delays turning into school closures, so
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a lot of travel disruptions this morning. It's going to
be a high of thirty seven. And also we mentioned
this and the last hour, it sounds like on the
highways it's going to be a speed limit of forty
five degrees.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Or forty five degrees forty five miles per hour. So
please be safe out there.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
As a man, I really can't judge inches. I always
think there's more.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Inches than Yeah, no, I hear, and there is, but
it seems like there's way more than one inch. Yeah,
we can argue about it, and I will.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
There's there's plenty on the ground to make it dangerous
to be careful. And according to the Pittsburgh Scanner account,
the salt truck tracker is down. Oh great, think it
was a really not looking plowed right now. And there
are some some bad accidents out there, so take your
time this morning. As Abby said, a lot of school closings,
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delays and things like that. If you're headed into work
or headed anywhere. Amine, just be careful, don't be a hero.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
All right, plenty of things to look forward to as
we really get into December.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Here, we'll start off with sports.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
College football's bowl games kick off on December the thirteenth.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Here. Have you been paying attention to a lot of
college ball?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I mean, yeah, you know. It was ravelry weekend this
past weekend, so I got.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
To go to Duke's and watch the Ohio State Michigan
game while the pit Miami game was going on. Yeah,
outside of that, which actually because I was thinking to
you because in like Michigan, I was looking at the
kind of the great I was thinking of the Great
Lakes because Ann Arbor.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Oh yeah, and I was thinking, I wonder.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
How great lakes?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Now that I got obsessed with Edward.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
As kind of like watching the field get covered and
I always thinking I'm like, oh, that's probably pretty brutal.
We're kind of covered on the NFL and NHL action
this month, but the MLS Cup Final is going to
go down this Saturday, and then the third annual NBA
Cup tournament runs through December the sixteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I haven't been here since the soccer team one. Was
that not just the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The River Hans. Yeah, the Hounds. I love the goalie.
I won't say his name for the FCC, but uh,
he looked like he worked in blogdocs.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Ever, he wasn't like some euro trash guy like smoking Kents,
you know, soccer goalie.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know, like he was like it dude.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, I loved it, blownos goalie.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
All right, let's look at entertainment this month in theaters.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
The big movies coming out this month are going to
be Avatar, Fire and Ash.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Now what number is that?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Cares?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I never saw the first one. I never got into Avatar.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
You never saw the first one?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Nope, never did either.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I thought that was like required.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
I think the thing is is that because we see
so much AI and CGI, I don't know that we
can appreciate probably how difficult it is to make these
Avatar movies. I don't know what number they're on. I
saw the first one and probably didn't care as much
as I was supposed to. So I lost the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Thread Fire and Ash. Fire and Ash.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
It's opening December the nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
To Avatar Fire. Mike Comlin, there you go.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
The SpongeBob movie Search for Square Pants lands the same
day and I am way more excited about that. Yeah,
there were trailers for it. I took my daughter to
see Wicked and the trailers for the SpongeBob movie. We
were both crying, laughing. We thought it looked so funny.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's great. I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I was a little too old for SpongeBob, but I
have great appreciation for everything I see from SpongeBob. It
looks like a more sanitized version of Ren and Stimpy
to me. So Ren and Stippy was a little more subversive.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
I think, Yeah, this one's coming hard with the jokes,
and it's got definitely it's gonna have adult jokes in
there as well, and it kind of always has appealed
to a little bit of like the teen like stoner
community for sure, which by the way, also Wicked.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No bad, Yeah, not good and Eat.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
He didn't like it either, Yeah, did she like the
first one? Loved the first one.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So I just I don't understand the allure of any
of it, so I can't really judge.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
We went into it, like I think she had high
expectations for it. But what I think our big takeaway,
She said, all the fun stuff was in the first movie,
and all the sad stuff was in the second movie.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's too long, and I went.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Put that on Sean Collier's suppose that was it.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, And the actresses look like they are going through
something traumatic.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They're bummed out. Yeah yeah, Okay.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
The kill Bill movies, they're gonna put those two together.
So they're kind of doing this kind of culmination of
the Tarantino movies all in one sitting. So if you
can sit down for four hours and thirty five minutes,
they're going to be doing a re release of both
Kill Bill movies.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
That's a lot. I don't think I could sit in
a theater that long on a flight. I could do
it on a flight.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I did The Irishman, you know The Irishman.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
When I rewatched it, it wasn't as bad as I remember.
I think my expectations were so high for it that
when I watched it, it was just they made so
many questionable decisions with the casting, and they could have
easily made that movie great if they would have just
cast age appropriate actors. You could have kept Pacino in there,
you could have kept Pesci in there. But what about
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your buddy like Bobby Connavale playing the Denira role instead
of de Niro, so that when he had to beat
somebody up, he actually looked like he could beat somebody up.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I think Bobby Kinder rather should be in every movie. Yeah, well,
the editing, and I believe you, I'm no editor, But
just like, okay, they're walking to the plane. You could
just show them on the plane. Yeah, you don't have
to show an eighty year old man walking to the plane.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's the way that movie took forever. It's true, but
it was. It was okay.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
There was a new movie out there where de Niro
plays two gangsters, is awful.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Alto Kings. Yeah, I watched.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I watched on the plane like three times, because I'm
that kind of person where if I i'd rather know
a movie.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I'd know.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's like, it would be good if he just played
one of the guys and someone else played the other guy.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I know.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I don't Why did they feel like they had to
do that, Like all of a sudden, he's Eddie Murphy.
He's like, I want this monster to fart. I want
this monster to be a wisecracker.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And that was his mama, right, It was like that
Sopranos movie.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Why didn't they get real, real good Italian actors to
be in that movie and they had the real Leo
to play two characters?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Were they that was HBO that cheap? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I think that was a creative decision. I don't think
they were that cheap. That movie was disappointing. That movie
was That movie made Alto Kings look like The Godfather.
I still love The Sopranos, so I watched it, but yes,
it didn't have any connection to me with the Sopranos,
and the sort of early versions of Paulie and Sylvio
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were kind of comical.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I thought it was like, all right, this is just yeah, pointless.
It just kind of didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
I'm starting my third rewatch of The Sopranos now I
get I get it in season one, but I started it.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I have to.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I get so happy when I can start The Sopranos again,
when there's been enough time that I can rewatch it
without feeling like I just watched it, because it really
is my favorite all time television show. Although it should
be pointed out that I believe yesterday on December first,
mad Men in four K dropped on Netflix or is
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HBO Max on HBO Max, So prior to that, it
was only AMC and you had to have a subscription.
So if you haven't seen mad Men in a while,
highest recommendation to go watch that.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But apparently there's a glitch going on and I'm sure
they'll get it fixed. But in the four K edition,
that's the thing about this. It looks amazing because it's
four K, but they didn't ed out or weren't able
to edit out some of the things that never made
it into the original mad Men that were like technical things.
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So like the scene where Roger is barfing because he
has too many oysters, there's a crew behind him like
pumping the vomit thing, and when you watch it in
four K, you can see the crew. Like, I'm not
sure how they're going to go back and digitally edit
at all, but they or why they didn't do that originally,
But apparently there's a bunch of glitches that in four
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K you see things that you weren't supposed to see
that we're supposed to be you know, hidden by you know,
television magic.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'm not the biggest fan of four K but it
looks too good. You know, if you watch Sopranos on
a too nice of a television, how Tony looks computerized,
like he's like, clamation, yes, I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Now I'm with you. I like it to look a
little more filmy, you know, exact. I don't need the
high definition of Carmela's face.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Yeah, so I get the rewatches of like things like
The Sopranos and Madmen.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I'm interested in.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
You were watching The Irishman because we've talked about it
before on.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
The show that we all disliked it so much.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I told you I watched it after I was recovering
from a hernia surgery, and even that I was like,
I'll have the surgery again, Like I hate this movie.
So why why go back and watch something you didn't like?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Well, because it's Scorsese and you just thought like, yeah, well,
I thought maybe I was judging it too harshly. No,
but the story is good, and they just make these
questionable choices.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
There's just too much.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's like, you know, it's like when Jimmy Page formed
The Firm. All right, those aren't great albums, but I
like going back and listening to them because I like
to see what they were thinking, him and Paul Rodgers
and what you know, what did you guys think was
gonna work? Or why did you want to do this?
And I know they're not great, but I still like
some of the songs.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, I think The Firm is better than The Irishman.
Maybe I did enjoy The Irishman. I saw like I
went to the theater. If I don't see a movie
in the theater, I'm pretty much never gonna see it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Don't you feel when you go to see a movie
in the theater that you have a much more special
relationship with that movie. Sure, you're like this is I
went and saw at the theater. I have like ownership
of this. There's some sort of efforts you feel attached
to that movie.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And Joe Peshi was incredible in that movie. He was great.
I thought that might have been his best. I mean,
he just wasn't Joe Peshi. He was that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And I also loved the guy who plays he's the
kind of a chubby guy, the guy who plays.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Al Capone in Boardwalk Empire. He's even Graham. He's great.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yes, in The Irishman, Jem he's really good. He's also
good in gangs in New York. Yes, he's just a
good actor, that dude, really good actor.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
On the Way for You might pursue of joining us
as we get ready for Steelers Ravens Sunday in Baltimore.
First place is on the line. I mean, a pretty
ugly day in the media. I'm sure Mike Tomlin avoided
social media yesterday, and it would be a good thing
to have done that, because everybody was talking about the
Steelers fans reaction to the embarrassing loss to the Bills
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and wondering will this ever change? Or are we doomed
to watch the football version of the Irishman week in
and week out.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So much talent, why isn't it better?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Mike's got a full report and we come back jee Sterotor,
Charlie Batchet, Billy Gardell on the Way for.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
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Speaker 7 (16:31):
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Speaker 1 (16:42):
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Speaker 3 (16:51):
All right, Mike Prasina, we'll do sports right now on
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Speaker 1 (16:54):
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Speaker 8 (16:58):
It's Sydney crossby venteenth goal the season got the Penguins
started midway through the first period in Philadelphia last night,
after the Flyers tied it via a five on three
power play goal, crossby Struck again at eight oh eight
of the second number eighteen and another Penguins lead, and
the Penguins pretty much coasted home from there, five to
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one over the Flyers. Joe anything celebratory to add or
just to score say at all?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
The score says it could have been six to one.
They cheesily took away Gino's goal. Cheesily you know what,
I thought. They got so many calls. I know I'm biased,
but ticky Tack, you know, Kendall gets his head, his
nose blown up, and they don't call anything, and then
Ziegers falls down like a cheap whore.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
To cheap horse fall. Yeah, the expensive one. Stay up right.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Penguins approve to thirteen seven and five thirty one points
that matches Philadelphia's thirty one points. Those are your two
wildcards in the Eastern Conference right now, and crazy times
in the Eastern Conference because it is so tightly contested.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Carolina leads the Metropolitan.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
Division with thirty four points and depends their first wildcard
with thirty one. Toronto is last in the Eastern Conference
playoffs standings with twenty five points, only six out of
only six out of a playoff spot.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And we gave them two points.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You know, it's I've never been against the shootout, but
this year I think I'm against it. You know, Flyers
have like six shootout wins.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'll tell it. At six points, they wouldn't have. I'll
tell you what I'm against.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Now, all of a sudden, there's three on three overtime
because because nobody's trying anymore, they just circle around and
go backwards out of the zone and everybody's looking for
a breakaway or they're just trying to exhaust the other
team and change while they have the pluck. Nothing happens
and then we just go to the shoot at it.
So just the tie game, go to the shootout. Let's
get it over with now. I like the I don't
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want to go to the shoot. I wouldn't get rid
of shoot. I like overtime.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I might just go to the three two one system
and let ties happen again or that.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
Yeah, three on three is they've coached all the fun
out of it because nobody wants to take a chance.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, I would like just longer three on three.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Or I don't know, let's just play five on five,
play real hockey. Can you think these guys could play
five more minutes?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You would think.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
The amount of games that's all, yeah, per year that
you'd end up accumulating.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
There's an idea.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
So then try to win in the third period instead
of just getting it to overtime, so you get a
loser point.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Or like some tweak of like what you only had
one shift in overtime and that's it interesting. Who's gonna
keep track of at though? I mean they got they
got a little little computer decals. Is there how fast
someone's skating, they can sure keep tracking if they're on
the bench.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You just put an X on their head, Mike, you
know you're done.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Is they get their shift and then they have to
go to the locker room instead of the bench.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
That's right, it's just going well, we're not going to
fix it right now, but it does stink.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It does.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Crosby's two goals last night tied Gordy Howe. For the
excuse me, The Penguins win last night allowed Crosby to
ty Gordy Howe for the sixth most wins with a
single franchise in NHL history, eight hundred and fifty one.
This is kind of an obscure step, but it's pretty cool.
The only players with more wins with one team Nicholas
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Lidstrom one thousand and ninety with the Red Wings, Patrick
Marlowe nine hundred and twenty four with the Sharks, ov
nine to fourteen with the Caps, Steve Eiserman eight hundred
and eighty six with the Red Wings, and Larry Robinson
eight to fifty nine with the Canadian Marlowe I would
have never got he was played for forty three years.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
The Sharks were the Tomlin Steelers of the NHL. Yeah
right for a long time.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Monday Night football.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Last night, the Patriots did it again, thirty three to
fifteen over the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
New England is eleven and two, eleven and two. I
don't know how and where one of those two's.
Speaker 8 (21:17):
Yeah, Drake May twenty four thirty one for two eighty two,
two touchdowns, no interception.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well that's how Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
But I mean I have a whole lot else going
on besides him. I mean, they got good players, but
nothing that makes jah wow.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Have a good quarterback coach? It helps.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Rabel Giants are two and eleven eight p College Basketball
Top twenty five and still Purdue number one and Arizona
number two. Michigan moves up to three, followed by Duke Yukon, Louisville,
Michigan State, Houston BYU, and Iowa State rounding out the
top ten. Duke Caine hosting William and Mary tonight. Dukes
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are five and two overall, five and zero at home. Also,
Pitt hosts Texas A and then what would a great
night to go to college basketball game?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well to squat drive through the snow should be With
all that, it's gonna slow down here in a couple
of hours.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Pitt is five and three hosting Texas A and M
and Penn State seven and one hosting Campbell from the
Big South Coffs. You know what Campbell's nickname is The soups,
the fighting camels.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The Campbell Fighting Camels.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, not tremendous, just because it rhymes.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I don't know why I like the soups. Yeah, I
think the soup was logical. Should they get their reasons? Yeah,
Abby's news topic. The players can go without water for ages.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah course, you remember that though when we were kids,
and then like the coaches thought that that was like
instilling some sort of discipline in you that was making
you tougher, and they would not let you drink water.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
The Junction boys, the kid would have died if like
if like the old doctor wasn't in his office in Junction,
Texas with Bear.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Bryant nod. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, he was like dead and the guy guy revived
him in the old school, like he put down a
cigarette and put like an ice cube budgers and like
kid lived his cigarette.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was like the outback.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, but yeah, there's no water imagined in Texas, West
Texas in August.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
The Bear. You guys have to watch the SEC.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
This is an eight part documentary. It's in It's Ken
Burns S. Where is it It's on the I think
it was on the SEC network. I'm sure, it's on
ESPN on demand. It literally goes from like the Civil
War up until Saban, everything in the SEC all the
Civil rights is incredible.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's one of those things where like I started watching
episode one and then that was.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It, Like I watched them all pretty much.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Well, I would imagine former Steelers coach who was the
John John Mitchell was the first black player at Alabama,
first captain, black captain.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay, there'll be a feature there. Yeah, one kid showed
up and then he got hurt and then he and
he didn't it. Baar loved him, but he got hurt.
He kind of quit, and for like three years there
was nobody after him. Like all four three guys didn't
make the team. He would have made it, but he
would have been the first black play for Alabama. He
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think lost the history, but just some crazy stories about it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It's just I love it.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, we'll search it out because if this weather is
coming for us, we're all going to be snowbound pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Anyways.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
All Right, as we said earlier Billy Gardelle in the
nine o'clock hour and Jeans Sterotor, We're gonna run over
a whole bunch of messed up calls from this past weekend.
It was pretty brutal in the NFL last night's game.
Did you see the kicker for the Giants. I think
it's Youngo Coup.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I just saw the clip on Twitter. He didn't finish
the kick, he grounded his club.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I've never seen anything like it, Like you know, when
you when you're golfing and you hit three you know,
inches in front of the ball and you hit the ground.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And he did that with his foot last night. If
you told me.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
To make a kick in the NFL, that that is
what that would have looked like.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I've never ever seen that in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Uh. And so they called fire and then ended up,
you know, losing another ten yards and New England took
it over.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The Giants are mess. But somebody else would be kicking
next week?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah? Yeah, that poor dude is just falling all the
way down the the ratchet somehow. I'm not exactly sure
what happened to his career, but he was at one
time and one time or a very good kicker.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No not now.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But as far as the refs, there was a play
last night too about whether or not you should call
unsportsmanlike conduct for the hit on the quarterback. And we
saw a little bit of this the other night. Uh
when or was it two weeks ago when Jalen Ramsey
pushed the dart run the dart run, dart gets absolutely royd.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You're in bounce.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He didn't get out, Yes, but people are pissed about that.
And see what Gene has to say about that.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
That's just the Mahomes effect because he would act like
he's going out of bounds and then spin and get
to more yards ago.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Right, So now like I'd kill them all if they
were legal.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Well, that's the thing is the advantage is if you're
dart in that situation is you get to slide and
they can't hit you. Yes, And if you want to
stay up right and try to get the other yeah,
that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think they should take the slide out. I'm with
you on that. But if you.
Speaker 8 (26:19):
Want to run, okay, but you're you're running with the football.
So football things are gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
At the end of this play, Jean Sterritor talks about
some football things that happened with the referees this weekend
that didn't quite add up, and also want to remind you.
It's Steelers Ravens Sunday, a one o'clock kickoff with first
place in the division on the line. Tune in starting
at nine am here for all of the pregame activity
on your radio Home of the Steelers DVE.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
We get it.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Some of you tune in at one oh two point
five and others listen through their smart device.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
No matter how you listened, Pittsburgh's rocker is w DV.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Is always rocked and always well rocked. DV E tis
this season when you were in the mood for a
holiday year. It's the dB Morning Show. Our next guest
is brought to you by Schneider Down.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
See what big thinking with a personal focus can do
for you. From the NFL on CBS, It's Gene Gene gane.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Jean's Territory Engine. Gentlemen, Gina, good morning. How are you what?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
God? I'm doing so well, man. I'm just looking out
of here in the Laurel Mountains for three to five
of freshly fallen snow before I go out and shovel
nine hundred feet a driveway Southwestern BA. You know, the
golf simulator will be on at nine thirty am. I'll
be playing level beach but dead.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That brought it perfect perfect Now, you know, I told
you yesterday Gene, that I felt like I had You know,
I heard from you more than I heard from most
of my family members during the holiday. You were on
my television the entire time. How many games were you at?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I physically was in Dallas for a great football game
really to start, and then it kind of got a
little bombed down on the second half, and then off
the next morning at Friday a m to back to
New York for a doubleheader on Friday, and then call
her Oregon and UH in Washington on Saturday, and then
just capped off leftover Saturday or Sunday with with a
(28:28):
five topper for the NFL. So it was a busy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I hope you finally did
get some turkey.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I think she left a couple of slices in that
back corner of the fridge, and I'm gonna heat up
some of that leftover gravy, bro and like dumping on
there and then maybe moisten it up a little bit. Yeah, well,
we'll be fine. It'll be a good day here.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
The first thing I wanted to ask you about something
that happened in the Steelers game, and you waited in
real time during the game when there was a I
think DK Metcalf took a penalty on a sports would
like on a touch on a touchdown, all right, and
after a touchdown, and you said that, like they that
should have been a set this. Originally you said, well,
that had to have been assessed on the extra point.
(29:11):
You can't just hold it over until the kickoff. There's
no choice there. The rule is it needs to be
assessed there. And then a little later you came back
in the broadcast and clarified well, because the ball was
set for the extra point that they then had, according
to New York, the discretion to decide between using it
on the kickoff or the extra point. I felt like
(29:34):
you were just trying to save them from a lot
of trouble. I felt like Jean's coming in here right
now to stop these guys from getting harangued on their
way out to the airport. What what was the real
story there and what should have happened?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I thought you a little spin, you know what. I
was like, he's got a zebra's back.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I get it now, you know what you want to
make sure when you do this that you're really right.
I mean, and look or none of us are perfect right,
so all of us make mistakes in all facets. But
in that situation, when I first saw the touchdown and
DK kind of look like he did that basketball you're
too small look right in the end zone rather quickly
as the play ended, my assumption was that that was
(30:14):
where the unsportsmanlike conduct taunting foul occurred. And then naturally
in TV we go to ISOs and we don't see
the remaining part of the player the all twenty two
you know, kind of how the game continues to unfold.
So I did come on because if there is a
foul that occurs after the touchdown, which would be a
dead ball foul right after the touchdown or in even
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those seconds that happen after that immediate continuing action ends
and before the referee chops the ball or blows the
whistle to start the point after try that whole window. Now,
in twenty twenty four they changed that rule where they
don't give the other team the option to kicking off
from the fifty and all those other elements. My assumption
(30:57):
right away was, look, they just have a foul on
the dead ball scenario. It's got to go on the try.
We've got to have you know, we've got to have
a pat from the forty basically, right. I mean, so
that's where I went after making that comment and then
getting some notification from the NFL and the few plays
that followed, they said, listen, it wasn't a too small gesture.
(31:19):
He had pointed his fingers in a possible weapon away,
which was later and after Alex Kemper, right as Alex Kemper,
referee was dropping the ball ready for play. If that
happens and the file then happens on the try itself,
now you're in a different bucket of enforcement, which does
allow the other team the option right of taking it
(31:40):
on the pat or taking it on the kick. I
think they stretched it a little bit to put it
on the try quite frankly. I mean, there still was
thirty people on the field when DK pointed his fingers there,
and I don't believe DK metcalf participates on the field goal.
(32:03):
That's a comment I'm going to leave to you, Mike too,
you know. But then ironically, I think after I came
in and the second half, after watching the all twenty
two and.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Having a little kind of nerdy.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Rough talk with the NFL, which you want to do
to make it right. Uh. They actually then did have
one on Cam Hayward that happened within seconds after the
play ended. Uh. And they also enforced it the same
way as they did the d K one, which is
a miss quite frankly, right. I mean that one you
just can't that goes on the point after try. So
(32:35):
in essence, my assumption is that, in my interpretation is
they were kind of one for two, with the one
being a little stretched one, you know, but can fall
into that little click of nuanced that puts it on
the uh, you know, the way they applied it on
the first one. The second one though, they did enforce
them correctly because that one had to go on the try.
It happened within seconds one or two seconds after the
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play ended on Cam Hayward.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
And now that was not the only instance of procedure
not being followed correctly last weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
No, my plate was full, Mike, just like everyone Thanksgiving plate.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yeah, so what happens when that happens like this? We're
not talking about, Oh, should that have been past interference
or not?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Or was that holding or not.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
I mean, you can't say we want to kick off
that way for an overtime coin toss, right, I mean, yeah, Mike, I.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Think we got also, and it's something we're going to
talk about this week with our referees in the NFL. Listen,
everybody knows all the little detail and I will tell
you full transparency. There's only two times in your officiating
career that you have your coin toss announcement live on television.
It's an overtime of the regular season in the Super Bowl,
and it's it's just been this little bug and the
(33:49):
voodoo doll of referees that they just don't do coin
tosses live well. And I was a victim of that
in the Super Bowl fifty two when I announced the
honorary captain in seven different names and none of them
were his real name, you know, So that happened.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
We're one better and Willie Williams I called him Woodrow Wilson,
I called him three different things, God bless him, and
then almost flipped the point for Super Bowl fifty two
without asking the Eagles if they wanted to call it
and your tails and then was saved in the moment.
But it does happen. But listen, when you have a
cooint toss it over time and the team that wins
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the tosses I want to kick, that's your option. You
don't get to say I want to kick.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
And also the direction you say you want to kick, receive, defer.
If you say you want to kick, then that's your option.
Then you go to the other team and say which
goal would you like to defend? Because we know you're
going to receive, so you don't have to say you're
going to receive. It's not a choice. You're getting the ball.
They said they're going to kick, so we need to
dummy it down a little bit, right. Plus are great
(34:55):
graphics on all our TVs. They put up every little
line item on what the new one is, his fourth
quarter timing, two time outscreach, coach, all reviews upstairs. You
don't have to go into that anymore. Keep it simple
and and I'd like me talk a little less, you know,
and it'll be it'll be better.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Now if they would have said we'd like to defend
that goal, mm hmm, that qualifies as a choice, right sure,
But now aren't you essentially saying we want to kick
that way?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
When you say we want to defend that goal, because
who's going to go? Fine? Who the other team is
not going to go? Okay, we'll kick it to you there.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Now, you're right man, And I've had that happen. And
when wind and elements come in at times, defending a
goal maybe an option. Usually quite frankly, that's when I
would click my mic off, pretend I had a mic problem,
and look at that other happen and say, listen to me.
He just said he wants to defend that goal. Now, look,
you're either going to get the ball or you're not,
(35:51):
and it's going to be your choice. So like, don't
mess this up, please, you know, like kind of.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Look at me, you want the ball?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Right, you got me, you want the ball. And then
we picked the mic back on and pretend it now
I was functioning properly for the country. You know, That's
how you do it.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
See if you if you ever forget to ask somebody
what they want to call heads or tails, just ask better.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
So'll do both in your cover.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, I'd like to do head tails. Can we
do that? Yeah? Yep, that's gonna land on it. If
it lands straight up and down though, then he doesn't win.
That's how you have to do. It's gonna kick him
the mup like that guy like that guy's yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah's foot. Yeah, that was brutal.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Another play from that game, we were kicking this around
before the break, Jackson Dark takes a huge hit on
the sidelines last night. Uh, some Giants fans up in
arms that nothing was called there. But I let's let's
give the rest some credit for something they have gotten
right the past couple of weeks. They didn't call Jalen
Ramsey for the hit on Caleb Williams, and they didn't
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call the Patriots last night for that hit on Jackson Dart.
And those are plays that in the era of Patty Mahomes,
there have been a lot of quick whistles there. But
it seems like they're turning the corner and realizing that, like,
if you're the quarterback and you want to try to
eke out a few more yards, you got to be
(37:11):
willing to take a hit there. There was now they
missed one. On Sunday in the Steelers Bills game, Josh
Allen took a hit from Patrick Queen that after he
had slid and they probably should have called that one, right,
But Josh Allen is one of those guys where he
probably doesn't get as many calls. It's like Big Ben,
you know, when you play that tough, you just you know,
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you don't get the benefit of the doubt like the
daintier quarterbacks do. But Gino, I think they're finally starting
to get that right.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah they are, man, they are. Look, we've given the
quarterbacks one hundred different ways to not get hit right,
go out of bounds, slide, there's so many different ways
we're protecting you. Now, don't now do what most spoiled
kids do. If I'd give you a little bit you
want to sneak another yard in right or that little
extra extra extra, given you enough options to protect you,
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now apply them and if you don't, then suffer the
peril of your decision. Full stop. And to the NFL's credit,
that's a reviewable play. Yeah right, so now it is reviewable.
So now you don't you do call it? And his
foot wasn't It wasn't in the white we're picking the
flag up. You got to hit legally, so you know
I agree with you. That's one that we're going in
(38:22):
the right direction on.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
Gee one more question for you regarding your role as
the rules analysts. Now, you were all obviously as engaging
and friendly and polity guys there is, and your interactions
reflect that. But I don't know if you saw any
of the Alabama Auburn game. But Follower, I think was
the play by play guy, and he had a problem
with a couple of calls and they brought the rules
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analysts in and.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
He was just that's obviously passive fair, So I don't
know what you're talking about. That was a good call.
The rules analysts are getting more aggressive. I like it
to put their foot down, Gene.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, Mike, and we all want to bring the holiday
spirit and try to explain these complex rules to the
general public in a very nice way, understanding that no
matter what we say, we're going to be met with
a lot of vitriol and hatred on the social media
platforms of our beautiful country and the way we've set
it up. But you know what, enough is enough sometimes
(39:18):
if it's a file and you don't think it's a foul.
That's why you're the play by play announcer, and that's why.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
They hired me. Now, if you're gonna throw to me.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
You got to deal with what the answer is here,
you know what I mean. And yes, I think polite
friendly was a nice way to describe me, Mike to
a point, and then I became a pretty miserable sob
out there sometimes, but that's just part of the business
as well. So yeah, I thought that God did a
good job pushing back.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Geezerator brought to you by Schneider Downs this morning on
dve G No thanks as always, buddy, We'll talk to
you next week.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Thanks guys, be safe out there.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
We'll see Abby's got your news when we return. And
hopefully the plows are out.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I hope they are too.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Here comes the Pittsburgh Esplanade though, and no plows.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Pearl Jam just bought a zamboni. Charlie Batch, Billy Gardell
still to come on DV more than sixty
Guaranteed human.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What's funny is I would listen to you guys well
when I live in California it's still May with my dogs,
and I listen on two speed, and then if it
goes to like regular speed, it seems like you guys
are slower than reality. Makes sense, Yes, no, because the
same thing happens to me when I listen to the
part of my Take podcast if I listened to it
on one, because occasionally I'll get home and I'll want
(00:26):
to keep hearing whoever they're interviewing, and I'll put it
on my home Sono system and it doesn't let you
speed it up when you do that, so it goes
back to just normal speed.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And they all sound like they have CTE.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, they're all of a sudden just I'm like, boy,
these guys aren't as witty as I thought.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
They're not nearly as quick as I thought.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Or like the next button from two point zho is
back too point five. It immediately sounds like like Madden's
having a stroke.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Andy Bellman and the DV morning show Everybuddy.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Joe Barnick is with us this morning, and it's always
good to see you, pal, and I want to thank
you for coming out to the Smalls waltz that we
did before Thanksgiving there.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Thank me. I want to thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That was one of the great I mean, and I've
had a lot of fun concerts in my life. That
was one of the best things I have ever been
a part of. I mean, everybody, I'm sorry if you
can say his name, the country dude John By, John
Binley with the harmonica guy.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
They raised the bar.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Joe Griskey, of course, the legend raised the bar.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Clinton Clegg raised the bar.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The other blues guy was incredible, Jimmy Eyler and Just
and Minda is Just but everybody, all the horns, the
ladies singing. It was just an incredible night of music
and the fans, all the DV people there.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
It was one of the best nights I've had a
long long time. It was.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I've gotten word that it was once again a little
too crowded, so I tried to put some some stops
on the total sales with the club so that people
didn't feel as crowded.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But maybe that got ignored.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That was my old man smarts. Though You're like, you
wanna be on the floor, I'm like, is there seats
on the floor, I'll be sitting on top. I did
to see although you could have shook your butt the
whole time. Yeah, it was that good. It was just
like I need this, especially with the gout. Yeah, yeah,
you're dealing with the cat. Well, you had a lot
of injuries. You were nursing that night. You play hurt
when the rambles going on. I've waited like five years
(02:28):
to see that show. I know it was worth it,
absolutely worth it. And you know, you know, I mean,
I'm you know, I love Clinton, but that might have
been one of the best he's ever been.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I totally agree. And next year's the fiftieth anniversary of
the Last Wall. So while we were thinking about maybe
that would have been the last one we do a
couple of weeks ago. We're gonna have to do it
for the fiftith anniversary next year, and then that'll probably
be the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I'm sure it'll yeah, that'll be the last one.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, no, because it's you know, it'll cease to be special.
But every year, the amount of people there's an after party,
and the amount of people who come up to the
after party in the funhouse and just tell me how
much they love that that show. It's you know, it's
gospel to people. And you saw Thanksgiving at least in
my algorithm, the amount of people who make it a
Thanksgiving tradition to.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Watch the Last Waltz every year.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And you worked for Bill Graham, Joe Bartnick, the guy
who was the mind behind the Turkey dinner aspect at
the winter In Ballroom when they held the Last Waltz,
all of the people in attendance, it was a twenty
five dollars upgrade on your ticket and you got a
full Thanksgiving meal before the concert started.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, I mean Bill was always innovative and everything was
just super cool. That's why worked at the film Wore
was the best because you got the best of every band. Yeah,
if they just played Bakersfield then Fresno, they waited all
week to get to the Film Wore, So you got
the best of the best. Yeah, you know what the
red I want to say for people who aren't even
familiar with the Last Waltz or it was just a
(04:01):
great show, Like you could know none of those songs
and don't even know who the band is, and the
music and the entertainers and the musicianship was just incredible
and the thing that you put it together, you and Minda,
it's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well that's nice you to say.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But hopefully next year we'll get it done once again
and maybe we'll do like gobble ritos instead of having
a full.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Part of it. Is it weird too though?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's like you could put in a bigger place, but
they wouldn't lose.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It would absolutely would.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, it's gonna have that vibe where people are kind
of sharing the experience together, but you.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Got to split the gobblerito. Yeah, I'm not going to
watch the show.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Might weigh you down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But we were able to raise over eight thousand dollars
for the Greater Pittsburgh Community Food Bank at a time
of the.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Year when they desperately need it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So we got all the musicians paid, we got the
venue paid, and we were able to make a huge donation.
So I was really glad about that aspect of things.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
All right, Abby's got a news update for you. What's
going on News.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
This hour brought to you by Keystone Basement system Sweat Basement,
Keystone Basementsystems, dot Com, Snow and flurries this morning up
to an inch. It seems like the storm total could
be one to three inches. Snow can make the roads slippery,
and we're seeing a lot of accidents this morning and
also a lot of delays turning into school closures, so
(05:21):
a lot of travel disruptions this morning. It's going to
be a high of thirty seven. And also we mentioned
this and the last hour, it sounds like on the
highways it's going to be a speed limit of forty
five degrees.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Or forty five degrees forty five miles per hour. So
please be safe out there.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
As a man, I really can't judge inches. I always
think there's more.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Inches than Yeah, no, I hear, and there is, but
it seems like there's way more than one inch. Yeah,
we can argue about it, and I will.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
There's there's plenty on the ground to make it dangerous
to be careful. And according to the Pittsburgh Scanner account,
the salt truck tracker is down. Oh great, think it
was a really not looking plowed right now. And there
are some some bad accidents out there, so take your
time this morning. As Abby said, a lot of school closings,
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delays and things like that. If you're headed into work
or headed anywhere. Amine, just be careful, don't be a hero.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
All right, plenty of things to look forward to as
we really get into December.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Here, we'll start off with sports.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
College football's bowl games kick off on December the thirteenth.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Here. Have you been paying attention to a lot of
college ball?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I mean, yeah, you know. It was ravelry weekend this
past weekend, so I got.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
To go to Duke's and watch the Ohio State Michigan
game while the pit Miami game was going on. Yeah,
outside of that, which actually because I was thinking to
you because in like Michigan, I was looking at the
kind of the great I was thinking of the Great
Lakes because Ann Arbor.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Oh yeah, and I was thinking, I wonder.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
How great lakes?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Now that I got obsessed with Edward.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
As kind of like watching the field get covered and
I always thinking I'm like, oh, that's probably pretty brutal.
We're kind of covered on the NFL and NHL action
this month, but the MLS Cup Final is going to
go down this Saturday, and then the third annual NBA
Cup tournament runs through December the sixteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I haven't been here since the soccer team one. Was
that not just the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The River Hans. Yeah, the Hounds. I love the goalie.
I won't say his name for the FCC, but uh,
he looked like he worked in blogdocs.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Ever, he wasn't like some euro trash guy like smoking Kents,
you know, soccer goalie.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know, like he was like it dude.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, I loved it, blownos goalie.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
All right, let's look at entertainment this month in theaters.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
The big movies coming out this month are going to
be Avatar, Fire and Ash.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Now what number is that?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Cares?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I never saw the first one. I never got into Avatar.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
You never saw the first one?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Nope, never did either.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I thought that was like required.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
I think the thing is is that because we see
so much AI and CGI, I don't know that we
can appreciate probably how difficult it is to make these
Avatar movies. I don't know what number they're on. I
saw the first one and probably didn't care as much
as I was supposed to. So I lost the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Thread Fire and Ash. Fire and Ash.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
It's opening December the nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
To Avatar Fire. Mike Comlin, there you go.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
The SpongeBob movie Search for Square Pants lands the same
day and I am way more excited about that. Yeah,
there were trailers for it. I took my daughter to
see Wicked and the trailers for the SpongeBob movie. We
were both crying, laughing. We thought it looked so funny.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's great. I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I was a little too old for SpongeBob, but I
have great appreciation for everything I see from SpongeBob. It
looks like a more sanitized version of Ren and Stimpy
to me. So Ren and Stippy was a little more subversive.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
I think, Yeah, this one's coming hard with the jokes,
and it's got definitely it's gonna have adult jokes in
there as well, and it kind of always has appealed
to a little bit of like the teen like stoner
community for sure, which by the way, also Wicked.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No bad, Yeah, not good and Eat.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
He didn't like it either, Yeah, did she like the
first one? Loved the first one.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So I just I don't understand the allure of any
of it, so I can't really judge.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
We went into it, like I think she had high
expectations for it. But what I think our big takeaway,
She said, all the fun stuff was in the first movie,
and all the sad stuff was in the second movie.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's too long, and I went.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Put that on Sean Collier's suppose that was it.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, And the actresses look like they are going through
something traumatic.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They're bummed out. Yeah yeah, Okay.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
The kill Bill movies, they're gonna put those two together.
So they're kind of doing this kind of culmination of
the Tarantino movies all in one sitting. So if you
can sit down for four hours and thirty five minutes,
they're going to be doing a re release of both
Kill Bill movies.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
That's a lot. I don't think I could sit in
a theater that long on a flight. I could do
it on a flight.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I did The Irishman, you know The Irishman.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
When I rewatched it, it wasn't as bad as I remember.
I think my expectations were so high for it that
when I watched it, it was just they made so
many questionable decisions with the casting, and they could have
easily made that movie great if they would have just
cast age appropriate actors. You could have kept Pacino in there,
you could have kept Pesci in there. But what about
(10:36):
your buddy like Bobby Connavale playing the Denira role instead
of de Niro, so that when he had to beat
somebody up, he actually looked like he could beat somebody up.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I think Bobby Kinder rather should be in every movie. Yeah, well,
the editing, and I believe you, I'm no editor, But
just like, okay, they're walking to the plane. You could
just show them on the plane. Yeah, you don't have
to show an eighty year old man walking to the plane.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's the way that movie took forever. It's true, but
it was. It was okay.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
There was a new movie out there where de Niro
plays two gangsters, is awful.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Alto Kings. Yeah, I watched.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I watched on the plane like three times, because I'm
that kind of person where if I i'd rather know
a movie.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I'd know.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's like, it would be good if he just played
one of the guys and someone else played the other guy.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I know.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I don't Why did they feel like they had to
do that, Like all of a sudden, he's Eddie Murphy.
He's like, I want this monster to fart. I want
this monster to be a wisecracker.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And that was his mama, right, It was like that
Sopranos movie.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Why didn't they get real, real good Italian actors to
be in that movie and they had the real Leo
to play two characters?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Were they that was HBO that cheap? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I think that was a creative decision. I don't think
they were that cheap. That movie was disappointing. That movie
was That movie made Alto Kings look like The Godfather.
I still love The Sopranos, so I watched it, but yes,
it didn't have any connection to me with the Sopranos,
and the sort of early versions of Paulie and Sylvio
(12:01):
were kind of comical.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I thought it was like, all right, this is just yeah, pointless.
It just kind of didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
I'm starting my third rewatch of The Sopranos now I
get I get it in season one, but I started it.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I have to.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I get so happy when I can start The Sopranos again,
when there's been enough time that I can rewatch it
without feeling like I just watched it, because it really
is my favorite all time television show. Although it should
be pointed out that I believe yesterday on December first,
mad Men in four K dropped on Netflix or is
(12:36):
HBO Max on HBO Max, So prior to that, it
was only AMC and you had to have a subscription.
So if you haven't seen mad Men in a while,
highest recommendation to go watch that.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But apparently there's a glitch going on and I'm sure
they'll get it fixed. But in the four K edition,
that's the thing about this. It looks amazing because it's
four K, but they didn't ed out or weren't able
to edit out some of the things that never made
it into the original mad Men that were like technical things.
(13:07):
So like the scene where Roger is barfing because he
has too many oysters, there's a crew behind him like
pumping the vomit thing, and when you watch it in
four K, you can see the crew. Like, I'm not
sure how they're going to go back and digitally edit
at all, but they or why they didn't do that originally,
But apparently there's a bunch of glitches that in four
(13:29):
K you see things that you weren't supposed to see
that we're supposed to be you know, hidden by you know,
television magic.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'm not the biggest fan of four K but it
looks too good. You know, if you watch Sopranos on
a too nice of a television, how Tony looks computerized,
like he's like, clamation, yes, I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Now I'm with you. I like it to look a
little more filmy, you know, exact. I don't need the
high definition of Carmela's face.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Yeah, so I get the rewatches of like things like
The Sopranos and Madmen.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I'm interested in.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
You were watching The Irishman because we've talked about it
before on.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
The show that we all disliked it so much.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I told you I watched it after I was recovering
from a hernia surgery, and even that I was like,
I'll have the surgery again, Like I hate this movie.
So why why go back and watch something you didn't like?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Well, because it's Scorsese and you just thought like, yeah, well,
I thought maybe I was judging it too harshly. No,
but the story is good, and they just make these
questionable choices.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
There's just too much.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's like, you know, it's like when Jimmy Page formed
The Firm. All right, those aren't great albums, but I
like going back and listening to them because I like
to see what they were thinking, him and Paul Rodgers
and what you know, what did you guys think was
gonna work? Or why did you want to do this?
And I know they're not great, but I still like
some of the songs.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, I think The Firm is better than The Irishman.
Maybe I did enjoy The Irishman. I saw like I
went to the theater. If I don't see a movie
in the theater, I'm pretty much never gonna see it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Don't you feel when you go to see a movie
in the theater that you have a much more special
relationship with that movie. Sure, you're like this is I
went and saw at the theater. I have like ownership
of this. There's some sort of efforts you feel attached
to that movie.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And Joe Peshi was incredible in that movie. He was great.
I thought that might have been his best. I mean,
he just wasn't Joe Peshi. He was that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And I also loved the guy who plays he's the
kind of a chubby guy, the guy who plays.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Al Capone in Boardwalk Empire. He's even Graham. He's great.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yes, in The Irishman, Jem he's really good. He's also
good in gangs in New York. Yes, he's just a
good actor, that dude, really good actor.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
On the Way for You might pursue of joining us
as we get ready for Steelers Ravens Sunday in Baltimore.
First place is on the line. I mean, a pretty
ugly day in the media. I'm sure Mike Tomlin avoided
social media yesterday, and it would be a good thing
to have done that, because everybody was talking about the
Steelers fans reaction to the embarrassing loss to the Bills
(16:09):
and wondering will this ever change? Or are we doomed
to watch the football version of the Irishman week in
and week out.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So much talent, why isn't it better?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Mike's got a full report and we come back jee Sterotor,
Charlie Batchet, Billy Gardell on the Way for.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You gets a shout it out a lot back off
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Speaker 7 (16:31):
The show that has always been pure Pittsburgh is the
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Speaker 1 (16:42):
So let me know what you guys need on DV
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Speaker 3 (16:51):
All right, Mike Prasina, we'll do sports right now on
the DV morning show.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Mike, what's going on? Sports? Us up? Brought to you
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Speaker 8 (16:58):
It's Sydney crossby venteenth goal the season got the Penguins
started midway through the first period in Philadelphia last night,
after the Flyers tied it via a five on three
power play goal, crossby Struck again at eight oh eight
of the second number eighteen and another Penguins lead, and
the Penguins pretty much coasted home from there, five to
(17:19):
one over the Flyers. Joe anything celebratory to add or
just to score say at all?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
The score says it could have been six to one.
They cheesily took away Gino's goal. Cheesily you know what,
I thought. They got so many calls. I know I'm biased,
but ticky Tack, you know, Kendall gets his head, his
nose blown up, and they don't call anything, and then
Ziegers falls down like a cheap whore.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
To cheap horse fall. Yeah, the expensive one. Stay up right.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Penguins approve to thirteen seven and five thirty one points
that matches Philadelphia's thirty one points. Those are your two
wildcards in the Eastern Conference right now, and crazy times
in the Eastern Conference because it is so tightly contested.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Carolina leads the Metropolitan.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
Division with thirty four points and depends their first wildcard
with thirty one. Toronto is last in the Eastern Conference
playoffs standings with twenty five points, only six out of
only six out of a playoff spot.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And we gave them two points.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You know, it's I've never been against the shootout, but
this year I think I'm against it. You know, Flyers
have like six shootout wins.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'll tell it. At six points, they wouldn't have. I'll
tell you what I'm against.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Now, all of a sudden, there's three on three overtime
because because nobody's trying anymore, they just circle around and
go backwards out of the zone and everybody's looking for
a breakaway or they're just trying to exhaust the other
team and change while they have the pluck. Nothing happens
and then we just go to the shoot at it.
So just the tie game, go to the shootout. Let's
get it over with now. I like the I don't
(19:03):
want to go to the shoot. I wouldn't get rid
of shoot. I like overtime.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I might just go to the three two one system
and let ties happen again or that.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
Yeah, three on three is they've coached all the fun
out of it because nobody wants to take a chance.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, I would like just longer three on three.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Or I don't know, let's just play five on five,
play real hockey. Can you think these guys could play
five more minutes?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You would think.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
The amount of games that's all, yeah, per year that
you'd end up accumulating.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
There's an idea.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
So then try to win in the third period instead
of just getting it to overtime, so you get a
loser point.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Or like some tweak of like what you only had
one shift in overtime and that's it interesting. Who's gonna
keep track of at though? I mean they got they
got a little little computer decals. Is there how fast
someone's skating, they can sure keep tracking if they're on
the bench.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You just put an X on their head, Mike, you
know you're done.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
Is they get their shift and then they have to
go to the locker room instead of the bench.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
That's right, it's just going well, we're not going to
fix it right now, but it does stink.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It does.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Crosby's two goals last night tied Gordy Howe. For the
excuse me, The Penguins win last night allowed Crosby to
ty Gordy Howe for the sixth most wins with a
single franchise in NHL history, eight hundred and fifty one.
This is kind of an obscure step, but it's pretty cool.
The only players with more wins with one team Nicholas
(20:34):
Lidstrom one thousand and ninety with the Red Wings, Patrick
Marlowe nine hundred and twenty four with the Sharks, ov
nine to fourteen with the Caps, Steve Eiserman eight hundred
and eighty six with the Red Wings, and Larry Robinson
eight to fifty nine with the Canadian Marlowe I would
have never got he was played for forty three years.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
The Sharks were the Tomlin Steelers of the NHL. Yeah
right for a long time.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Monday Night football.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Last night, the Patriots did it again, thirty three to
fifteen over the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
New England is eleven and two, eleven and two. I
don't know how and where one of those two's.
Speaker 8 (21:17):
Yeah, Drake May twenty four thirty one for two eighty two,
two touchdowns, no interception.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well that's how Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
But I mean I have a whole lot else going
on besides him. I mean, they got good players, but
nothing that makes jah wow.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Have a good quarterback coach? It helps.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Rabel Giants are two and eleven eight p College Basketball
Top twenty five and still Purdue number one and Arizona
number two. Michigan moves up to three, followed by Duke Yukon, Louisville,
Michigan State, Houston BYU, and Iowa State rounding out the
top ten. Duke Caine hosting William and Mary tonight. Dukes
(21:55):
are five and two overall, five and zero at home. Also,
Pitt hosts Texas A and then what would a great
night to go to college basketball game?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well to squat drive through the snow should be With
all that, it's gonna slow down here in a couple
of hours.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Pitt is five and three hosting Texas A and M
and Penn State seven and one hosting Campbell from the
Big South Coffs. You know what Campbell's nickname is The soups,
the fighting camels.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The Campbell Fighting Camels.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, not tremendous, just because it rhymes.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I don't know why I like the soups. Yeah, I
think the soup was logical. Should they get their reasons? Yeah,
Abby's news topic. The players can go without water for ages.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah course, you remember that though when we were kids,
and then like the coaches thought that that was like
instilling some sort of discipline in you that was making
you tougher, and they would not let you drink water.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
The Junction boys, the kid would have died if like
if like the old doctor wasn't in his office in Junction,
Texas with Bear.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Bryant nod. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, he was like dead and the guy guy revived
him in the old school, like he put down a
cigarette and put like an ice cube budgers and like
kid lived his cigarette.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was like the outback.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, but yeah, there's no water imagined in Texas, West
Texas in August.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
The Bear. You guys have to watch the SEC.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
This is an eight part documentary. It's in It's Ken
Burns S. Where is it It's on the I think
it was on the SEC network. I'm sure, it's on
ESPN on demand. It literally goes from like the Civil
War up until Saban, everything in the SEC all the
Civil rights is incredible.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's one of those things where like I started watching
episode one and then that was.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It, Like I watched them all pretty much.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Well, I would imagine former Steelers coach who was the
John John Mitchell was the first black player at Alabama,
first captain, black captain.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay, there'll be a feature there. Yeah, one kid showed
up and then he got hurt and then he and
he didn't it. Baar loved him, but he got hurt.
He kind of quit, and for like three years there
was nobody after him. Like all four three guys didn't
make the team. He would have made it, but he
would have been the first black play for Alabama. He
(24:17):
think lost the history, but just some crazy stories about it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It's just I love it.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, we'll search it out because if this weather is
coming for us, we're all going to be snowbound pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Anyways.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
All Right, as we said earlier Billy Gardelle in the
nine o'clock hour and Jeans Sterotor, We're gonna run over
a whole bunch of messed up calls from this past weekend.
It was pretty brutal in the NFL last night's game.
Did you see the kicker for the Giants. I think
it's Youngo Coup.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I just saw the clip on Twitter. He didn't finish
the kick, he grounded his club.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I've never seen anything like it, Like you know, when
you when you're golfing and you hit three you know,
inches in front of the ball and you hit the ground.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And he did that with his foot last night. If
you told me.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
To make a kick in the NFL, that that is
what that would have looked like.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I've never ever seen that in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Uh. And so they called fire and then ended up,
you know, losing another ten yards and New England took
it over.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The Giants are mess. But somebody else would be kicking
next week?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah? Yeah, that poor dude is just falling all the
way down the the ratchet somehow. I'm not exactly sure
what happened to his career, but he was at one
time and one time or a very good kicker.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No not now.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But as far as the refs, there was a play
last night too about whether or not you should call
unsportsmanlike conduct for the hit on the quarterback. And we
saw a little bit of this the other night. Uh
when or was it two weeks ago when Jalen Ramsey
pushed the dart run the dart run, dart gets absolutely royd.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You're in bounce.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He didn't get out, Yes, but people are pissed about that.
And see what Gene has to say about that.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
That's just the Mahomes effect because he would act like
he's going out of bounds and then spin and get
to more yards ago.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Right, So now like I'd kill them all if they
were legal.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Well, that's the thing is the advantage is if you're
dart in that situation is you get to slide and
they can't hit you. Yes, And if you want to
stay up right and try to get the other yeah,
that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think they should take the slide out. I'm with
you on that. But if you.
Speaker 8 (26:19):
Want to run, okay, but you're you're running with the football.
So football things are gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
At the end of this play, Jean Sterritor talks about
some football things that happened with the referees this weekend
that didn't quite add up, and also want to remind you.
It's Steelers Ravens Sunday, a one o'clock kickoff with first
place in the division on the line. Tune in starting
at nine am here for all of the pregame activity
on your radio Home of the Steelers DVE.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
We get it.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Some of you tune in at one oh two point
five and others listen through their smart device.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
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Speaker 1 (26:57):
Is always rocked and always well rocked. DV E tis
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Speaker 3 (27:14):
See what big thinking with a personal focus can do
for you. From the NFL on CBS, It's Gene Gene gane.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Jean's Territory Engine. Gentlemen, Gina, good morning. How are you what?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
God? I'm doing so well, man. I'm just looking out
of here in the Laurel Mountains for three to five
of freshly fallen snow before I go out and shovel
nine hundred feet a driveway Southwestern BA. You know, the
golf simulator will be on at nine thirty am. I'll
be playing level beach but dead.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That brought it perfect perfect Now, you know, I told
you yesterday Gene, that I felt like I had You know,
I heard from you more than I heard from most
of my family members during the holiday. You were on
my television the entire time. How many games were you at?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I physically was in Dallas for a great football game
really to start, and then it kind of got a
little bombed down on the second half, and then off
the next morning at Friday a m to back to
New York for a doubleheader on Friday, and then call
her Oregon and UH in Washington on Saturday, and then
just capped off leftover Saturday or Sunday with with a
(28:28):
five topper for the NFL. So it was a busy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I hope you finally did
get some turkey.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I think she left a couple of slices in that
back corner of the fridge, and I'm gonna heat up
some of that leftover gravy, bro and like dumping on
there and then maybe moisten it up a little bit. Yeah, well,
we'll be fine. It'll be a good day here.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
The first thing I wanted to ask you about something
that happened in the Steelers game, and you waited in
real time during the game when there was a I
think DK Metcalf took a penalty on a sports would
like on a touch on a touchdown, all right, and
after a touchdown, and you said that, like they that
should have been a set this. Originally you said, well,
that had to have been assessed on the extra point.
(29:11):
You can't just hold it over until the kickoff. There's
no choice there. The rule is it needs to be
assessed there. And then a little later you came back
in the broadcast and clarified well, because the ball was
set for the extra point that they then had, according
to New York, the discretion to decide between using it
on the kickoff or the extra point. I felt like
(29:34):
you were just trying to save them from a lot
of trouble. I felt like Jean's coming in here right
now to stop these guys from getting harangued on their
way out to the airport. What what was the real
story there and what should have happened?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I thought you a little spin, you know what. I
was like, he's got a zebra's back.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I get it now, you know what you want to
make sure when you do this that you're really right.
I mean, and look or none of us are perfect right,
so all of us make mistakes in all facets. But
in that situation, when I first saw the touchdown and
DK kind of look like he did that basketball you're
too small look right in the end zone rather quickly
as the play ended, my assumption was that that was
(30:14):
where the unsportsmanlike conduct taunting foul occurred. And then naturally
in TV we go to ISOs and we don't see
the remaining part of the player the all twenty two
you know, kind of how the game continues to unfold.
So I did come on because if there is a
foul that occurs after the touchdown, which would be a
dead ball foul right after the touchdown or in even
(30:36):
those seconds that happen after that immediate continuing action ends
and before the referee chops the ball or blows the
whistle to start the point after try that whole window. Now,
in twenty twenty four they changed that rule where they
don't give the other team the option to kicking off
from the fifty and all those other elements. My assumption
(30:57):
right away was, look, they just have a foul on
the dead ball scenario. It's got to go on the try.
We've got to have you know, we've got to have
a pat from the forty basically, right. I mean, so
that's where I went after making that comment and then
getting some notification from the NFL and the few plays
that followed, they said, listen, it wasn't a too small gesture.
(31:19):
He had pointed his fingers in a possible weapon away,
which was later and after Alex Kemper, right as Alex Kemper,
referee was dropping the ball ready for play. If that
happens and the file then happens on the try itself,
now you're in a different bucket of enforcement, which does
allow the other team the option right of taking it
(31:40):
on the pat or taking it on the kick. I
think they stretched it a little bit to put it
on the try quite frankly. I mean, there still was
thirty people on the field when DK pointed his fingers there,
and I don't believe DK metcalf participates on the field goal.
(32:03):
That's a comment I'm going to leave to you, Mike too,
you know. But then ironically, I think after I came
in and the second half, after watching the all twenty
two and.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Having a little kind of nerdy.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Rough talk with the NFL, which you want to do
to make it right. Uh. They actually then did have
one on Cam Hayward that happened within seconds after the
play ended. Uh. And they also enforced it the same
way as they did the d K one, which is
a miss quite frankly, right. I mean that one you
just can't that goes on the point after try. So
(32:35):
in essence, my assumption is that, in my interpretation is
they were kind of one for two, with the one
being a little stretched one, you know, but can fall
into that little click of nuanced that puts it on
the uh, you know, the way they applied it on
the first one. The second one though, they did enforce
them correctly because that one had to go on the try.
It happened within seconds one or two seconds after the
(32:58):
play ended on Cam Hayward.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
And now that was not the only instance of procedure
not being followed correctly last weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
No, my plate was full, Mike, just like everyone Thanksgiving plate.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yeah, so what happens when that happens like this? We're
not talking about, Oh, should that have been past interference
or not?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Or was that holding or not.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
I mean, you can't say we want to kick off
that way for an overtime coin toss, right, I mean, yeah, Mike, I.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Think we got also, and it's something we're going to
talk about this week with our referees in the NFL. Listen,
everybody knows all the little detail and I will tell
you full transparency. There's only two times in your officiating
career that you have your coin toss announcement live on television.
It's an overtime of the regular season in the Super Bowl,
and it's it's just been this little bug and the
(33:49):
voodoo doll of referees that they just don't do coin
tosses live well. And I was a victim of that
in the Super Bowl fifty two when I announced the
honorary captain in seven different names and none of them
were his real name, you know, So that happened.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
We're one better and Willie Williams I called him Woodrow Wilson,
I called him three different things, God bless him, and
then almost flipped the point for Super Bowl fifty two
without asking the Eagles if they wanted to call it
and your tails and then was saved in the moment.
But it does happen. But listen, when you have a
cooint toss it over time and the team that wins
(34:28):
the tosses I want to kick, that's your option. You
don't get to say I want to kick.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
And also the direction you say you want to kick, receive, defer.
If you say you want to kick, then that's your option.
Then you go to the other team and say which
goal would you like to defend? Because we know you're
going to receive, so you don't have to say you're
going to receive. It's not a choice. You're getting the ball.
They said they're going to kick, so we need to
dummy it down a little bit, right. Plus are great
(34:55):
graphics on all our TVs. They put up every little
line item on what the new one is, his fourth
quarter timing, two time outscreach, coach, all reviews upstairs. You
don't have to go into that anymore. Keep it simple
and and I'd like me talk a little less, you know,
and it'll be it'll be better.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Now if they would have said we'd like to defend
that goal, mm hmm, that qualifies as a choice, right sure,
But now aren't you essentially saying we want to kick
that way?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
When you say we want to defend that goal, because
who's going to go? Fine? Who the other team is
not going to go? Okay, we'll kick it to you there.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Now, you're right man, And I've had that happen. And
when wind and elements come in at times, defending a
goal maybe an option. Usually quite frankly, that's when I
would click my mic off, pretend I had a mic problem,
and look at that other happen and say, listen to me.
He just said he wants to defend that goal. Now, look,
you're either going to get the ball or you're not,
(35:51):
and it's going to be your choice. So like, don't
mess this up, please, you know, like kind of.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Look at me, you want the ball?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Right, you got me, you want the ball. And then
we picked the mic back on and pretend it now
I was functioning properly for the country. You know, That's
how you do it.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
See if you if you ever forget to ask somebody
what they want to call heads or tails, just ask better.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
So'll do both in your cover.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, I'd like to do head tails. Can we
do that? Yeah? Yep, that's gonna land on it. If
it lands straight up and down though, then he doesn't win.
That's how you have to do. It's gonna kick him
the mup like that guy like that guy's yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah's foot. Yeah, that was brutal.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Another play from that game, we were kicking this around
before the break, Jackson Dark takes a huge hit on
the sidelines last night. Uh, some Giants fans up in
arms that nothing was called there. But I let's let's
give the rest some credit for something they have gotten
right the past couple of weeks. They didn't call Jalen
Ramsey for the hit on Caleb Williams, and they didn't
(36:50):
call the Patriots last night for that hit on Jackson Dart.
And those are plays that in the era of Patty Mahomes,
there have been a lot of quick whistles there. But
it seems like they're turning the corner and realizing that, like,
if you're the quarterback and you want to try to
eke out a few more yards, you got to be
(37:11):
willing to take a hit there. There was now they
missed one. On Sunday in the Steelers Bills game, Josh
Allen took a hit from Patrick Queen that after he
had slid and they probably should have called that one, right,
But Josh Allen is one of those guys where he
probably doesn't get as many calls. It's like Big Ben,
you know, when you play that tough, you just you know,
(37:32):
you don't get the benefit of the doubt like the
daintier quarterbacks do. But Gino, I think they're finally starting
to get that right.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah they are, man, they are. Look, we've given the
quarterbacks one hundred different ways to not get hit right,
go out of bounds, slide, there's so many different ways
we're protecting you. Now, don't now do what most spoiled
kids do. If I'd give you a little bit you
want to sneak another yard in right or that little
extra extra extra, given you enough options to protect you,
(38:02):
now apply them and if you don't, then suffer the
peril of your decision. Full stop. And to the NFL's credit,
that's a reviewable play. Yeah right, so now it is reviewable.
So now you don't you do call it? And his
foot wasn't It wasn't in the white we're picking the
flag up. You got to hit legally, so you know
I agree with you. That's one that we're going in
(38:22):
the right direction on.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
Gee one more question for you regarding your role as
the rules analysts. Now, you were all obviously as engaging
and friendly and polity guys there is, and your interactions
reflect that. But I don't know if you saw any
of the Alabama Auburn game. But Follower, I think was
the play by play guy, and he had a problem
with a couple of calls and they brought the rules
(38:44):
analysts in and.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
He was just that's obviously passive fair, So I don't
know what you're talking about. That was a good call.
The rules analysts are getting more aggressive. I like it
to put their foot down, Gene.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, Mike, and we all want to bring the holiday
spirit and try to explain these complex rules to the
general public in a very nice way, understanding that no
matter what we say, we're going to be met with
a lot of vitriol and hatred on the social media
platforms of our beautiful country and the way we've set
it up. But you know what, enough is enough sometimes
(39:18):
if it's a file and you don't think it's a foul.
That's why you're the play by play announcer, and that's why.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
They hired me. Now, if you're gonna throw to me.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
You got to deal with what the answer is here,
you know what I mean. And yes, I think polite
friendly was a nice way to describe me, Mike to
a point, and then I became a pretty miserable sob
out there sometimes, but that's just part of the business
as well. So yeah, I thought that God did a
good job pushing back.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Geezerator brought to you by Schneider Downs this morning on
dve G No thanks as always, buddy, We'll talk to
you next week.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Thanks guys, be safe out there.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
We'll see Abby's got your news when we return. And
hopefully the plows are out.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I hope they are too.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Here comes the Pittsburgh Esplanade though, and no plows.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Pearl Jam just bought a zamboni. Charlie Batch, Billy Gardell
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