December 5, 2025 • 13 mins
Ben Roethlisberger joins the show to talk about how much he loved to play against the Ravens and he shares his thoughts on the Steelers 2025 season.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one or
two point five DVE. If there's any play that embodies
the dynamic in the Steelers Ravens rivalry, it might be
this one from twoenty ten and it's an incomplete pass.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Ben, Oh my goodness, and Ben, what side on him pass?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Because Suggs was all over him.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
That is one of the great plays I have seen
in a long time. Suggs is going after the ball.
He's going for the strip instead of the sack. Here
trying to knock it out, grabbing everything it can, trying
to get the ball. Roethlisberger escapes, lips it out of there,
and saves himself about seven yards on the play. What
a play by.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Roethlisberger joining us right now, the guy who made that play,
Ben Roethlisberger, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So man, I'll tell you what I can remember for
some weird plays, making a tackle, you.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Know, shoe string tackles, incomplete passes, No, but that one, really,
I mean the respect between you and Suggs after that,
because he's talking about that play too. That play showed
the battle level that this rivalry used to inspires the gun.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
If you got to pick one play for Steelers Raves.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, the hit on mcgay he uh you know now,
but the point is that each side has had its moments.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, but that was yeah, that was like the both
of them.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, ever just going out. Yeah, you're right, Mike. I
mean there's like there's like five plays you know that
like that would from my you know, eighteen years of
playing those guys twice and sometimes three times a year,
you know, there there's very few times that there's like, uh,
you know, you think about that Robert, like how many
times was it a blowout? You know? It just I
(01:53):
can think of one time where we went through a
bunch of touchdowns on him at home. That was a
lot of fun. I think of ab reaching the ball
over the ball line. I think was that Christmas Man?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, it was extension.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah. Yeah, like like probably not the smartest play on
our part, you know, but it might work. Yeah, that
play like stiff arm and him and just throwing it
because I remember after that play, like I remember him
looking at me just being like like totally dejected, like
what are you doing. It's just like I don't know,
I'm just trying to live, but just trying to live
(02:24):
you told me a.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
While back that was one of your favorite plays, right,
is it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Still it is? No, It truly is because and again
for the most unique of reasons. But if I think
at that point happens with any other player or any
other team, it probably goes down as like a whatever.
But because that rivalry that it's him, how good he?
I mean, just all the all the factors that went
into it make that play that much more special, you
(02:50):
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But the difference, you know, you talked about this on
your podcast a couple of weeks ago, the difference in
the rivalry and the AFC North between Ravens, Bengals, and Browns,
they're all unique.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Right, Well yeah, I mean, well start with the Browns.
That's not really robbery.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
The Bengals one cards from them.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Absolutely all the time. They asked me about naming the
new stadium. But uh, you know, like the the Bengals
one was always just like you went into that game
and it's like someone's gonna get hurt and it's not
because of something like just hard football, right, Like you're
(03:34):
like something there's something dirty is gonna happen. You were
afraid of, like under the pile, late hit, cheap shot whatever,
this is going, yes, but then the rival of the
Bengal or the Ravens was like, I'm going to get hurt,
but I'm going to get hurt because it's just good
old fashioned football, and you're like, you know what, when
(03:55):
you're looking at like the Ravens games, you always looked
at the next week's opponent because you're like, I'm going
to be hurt. Who am I playing? You know? Yeah?
Are you going to play an easy team? Or you
know who are you playing next? Because you're gonna be
hurting for for a week or two after this game
because it's just it's just smashed mouth football. And it was.
It was and this sounds really weird, but it was fun.
(04:15):
It's fun to go and play just like good old
fashion football, talking trash, but like I'll never forget, you know,
ray Lewis put me into the ground and not being
able to breathe barely and then helping me up and
being like, hey, come on, come on, I don't want
you going on the game. I want to I want
to beat you. And you felt the same way, like
if he went to that game against the Ravens and
someone was out or questionable. You're like, no, come on,
I want you like part of you wanted them to play,
(04:37):
part of you didn't, you know, Like when Ed Reid
was questionable, I'm like, boy, I really i'd like to
beat the Ravens with Ed Reed, but he's really good.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
The Yeah, you know, That's how I feel about Lamar
this weekend. It's like, I'd be okay if he didn't play.
I really would.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I know. That's a big difference, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
DK Metcalf talked about having to be told about Steelers
rangements and he's like, yeah, you know, I heard they
were telling us about it, and I watched some footage
and old games and stuff, and he's like, but I
guess I'll you know, I'll find out when I get there.
But I'm just approaching it like another game. Is it
something that you can teach somebody about or do you
(05:17):
really need to experience it before you can fully comprehend
the the intensity of this matchup?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, I mean, Mike Push, I mean I think.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You and is it the same?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Is it the same? That's what I was gonna say,
Like even and obviously I've been removed not locking for
a couple of years. So I can't speak on for
the last couple of years, but even my last couple
of years there, it just felt different, you know. And
part of that is just, you know, when when the
players are different and things like that, and obviously the
coaches are the same. But at some point you kind
of lose some of it, I think a little bit.
(05:50):
But I you know, he'll get out there. And I
mean it wasn't too often either that both teams going
into that were like five hundreds. Usually both teams were
battling and you're you know you were going to be
you know. Obviously it still is a for the AFC North,
which is is kind of crazy. But this game, you know,
has a lot more on it than it probably has
in a while, and so I think he'll experience it
(06:11):
quick and get a feel for it. I remember when
when we were playing to coach Randy was was my
quarterback coach and coordinator. Like all the dry e race
boards were written in purple. You just got tired of
see him purple all week, and so you just added
that little and I'm sure I don't know they're still
doing the or not, but they just added that extra
little fuel to the to this rivalry.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What about the actual playing in Baltimore aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, that's a big deal. I mean that was one
of the places that you you you almost didn't feel
safe driving into the stadium. You know, you're going through
the you're you're driving through there and there's the people
or tailgating. I mean, that was one of the few
places that I saw grandma's doing things that grandma's aren't,
you know. So it's those fans are very passionate.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger with us right now. Steelers Ravens this Sunday.
Aaron Rodgers has that left for a situation that made
it impossible for him to get under center. I mean
it clearly hurt them last week. Is that something that
they can trot out again if he hasn't gotten any
better and expect for things to look differently on the
(07:14):
offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, I knew on the first play last week when
I saw what was on his wrist, I'm like, oh,
he will not be There's no way he can go
under center just because of that bulkiness, and that won't
it won't really bend backwards. And but but again, you
know I've played in games usually because of a lower
body injury, where I've been in the pistol the whole game,
and so you can easily adjust to your game plans
(07:38):
to the pistol. And I think if they are in
d going to stay with that game plan in terms
of being not able to go under center, then I
think they'll be a week better with it, and I
think they'll have, you know, better understanding it. It does
hurt you in certain areas of no kind of short yardage, yes,
being able to do some of the play action, turn
your back, you know, even like I wasn't really I
(08:00):
can't tell if he can, like Paul, hold the ball
to his left hand because obviously, if you're selling a
play action to the right side, you're holding that ball
out with your left hand. So there's definitely some things
in there that are gonna be unique, and maybe they're
gonna be you know, I heard at one point he
said he's gonna be working with the trainers. Maybe they'll
figure out something that he can wear that's a little
smaller that allows him to do something. So I would
expect his comfort level to be one more, you know,
(08:23):
not better this week because he played last week with it. Now.
My concern was last week too, the natural reaction of
when you go down, like bracing yourself right, Like, if
you're getting tackled from the right side and you go
to put your left hand down, just it's it's natural
to put your arm out. You're not gonna just keep
your arm in. I'm thinking, like, oh my wrist hurts,
let me fall on my shoulder. You're gonna brace yourself,
(08:45):
And so that'll be the interesting thing again. I mean, obviously,
we hope he doesn't use his face like last week
to brace himself when he gets hit from the blind side.
Let's hope that doesn't happen again.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
But just from a philosophical standpoint, how do you straddle
the line between all right, I'm gonna throw it to
the guy who's open, and all right, I need to
play I'm going to this guy and I don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I mean, I've been in both situations obviously. Sometimes when
things are just like like you're trying to spread the
ball around, you're trying to throw the guy off of
like a read because you know the defense gave me
this coverage and so it tells me I'm supposed to
go to this receiver because the play was designed for this,
but it's just not working. Well. You know what, at
some point, you say, you know what, forget that, I'm
(09:31):
going to my comfort blanket. I'm going to a guy
that I know is going to get open. I'm going
to a guy who I know is going to win.
And I've had guys like that. I've I've had the
be Hindwards, the Abs, the Heath Millers, guys that you're
just like, you know what, forget this, I'm finding that guy.
And so I think it just depends on the situation.
But it has to happen at some point.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
And how open do they have to be or do
you just throw it to him anyway?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
They don't, they don't need to be open. I mean,
you know, when you have that guy, you know, like
I said, the the guys I mentioned, and there were others,
but but when you have a guy like that, at
some point, it doesn't matter if they're open. You're like,
this guy is going to win. Now, if there's two
or three defenders on, that's a different ball game. But
one on one or tight coverage, I'm thinking, man, I
(10:14):
gotta I gotta put my trust in my guy that
I trust and throw him the ball and do that.
So you know, there's there's a little bit of that
and you gotta but again, I don't you know, Aaron
has that with guys, but he hasn't been here for
a long time doing all this stuff with some of
those guys, and he went here in the summer or
have a long term relationship with some of these guys.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You know, Yeah, not being here in the summer might
have ended up partner more than people anticipated. Are you
surprised how little friar Mouth has been involved?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Blows my mind. It's I I don't I don't get it.
I don't know what's going on. And I said on
the show this week, the only thing I can think
of is that Pat is not one of Arthur Smiths guys,
because I just don't and you know, like what do
you mean, like like he just he must either he
did something to him. I don't know what it is.
But but it blows my mind that you're not using
(11:00):
far with more, especially with the lack of a quote
unquote number two. Now, I'm not trying to take anything
away from Calvin Austin or Roman Wilson or anybody else,
but Pat Fryman. Your tight end can be a number two.
Sometimes he's a number one in certain situations. So I
don't know why he's not getting the ball more or
at least targeted. I mean, what are we doing the
last I mean you look at some games when he's targeted,
(11:20):
you're storing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah. Ben Roethlisberger talking Steels Ravens at Sunday one o'clock
kickoff at the M and T Bank Stadium. Ben, thanks
for making time for us today. Man, we greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Have time for one more question.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It depends on what it is. It doesn't get well,
what is it, Mike?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I was just curious.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
No, we don't.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Smart, But who's.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Gonna end up being the pet State coach?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I'm curious. I don't know. We'll have to wait to see. It.
Seems like no one wants to go.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I think that's what Crawford les to do. He's going
to go to your app.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, hey, hey, everyone's throwing their name in the half
because nobody wants to. Everyone's like, I'll take It's like
open tryouts for a kicker. I never outs for a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I never thought in a million years that Penn State
would have a hard time landing a coach. Honest to god,
I thought that that was going to be one of
the most coveted coaching positions, and now it's looking now
like their lack of ability to land someone is actually
hurting them to land someone.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And I think it's Miamuel I would get coaches easier
in Penn State right now.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, but I think it's circumstantial, just because everybody
got gassed this year and all the big programs needed coach,
Like there was a lot of big time jobs out
there this year.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Do you think it hurts Penn State? Do you think
it hurts Penn State though that they made like an
ego thing that they don't want to bring in a
guy like they have like quote unquote have to have
a guy with a name. That's because that's what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
I know at some point, I know, but at some
point you have to say, you know what, let's take
a shot with a guy like this or is that
like an ego thing, like no, we're Penn State, we
(12:59):
can't we have to have a name guy because right
now you don't have anybody.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
If to get an atmosphere that exists now was the
case when you were playing, you played, it might be
able to HIO a couple of years. How much money
would you have made to go to USC or Oregon
or wherever you wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I'll tell you what. I don't even want to think
about it because I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Been in Pittsburgh, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I mean, it's it's ridiculous the way this thing is.
I don't I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Hey man, thanks for making time for us today.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
All right, man, check out the Football and Podcast with
Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
How something just shut up? My god? Thanks Ben,
It's your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one or
two point five DVE. If there's any play that embodies
the dynamic in the Steelers Ravens rivalry, it might be
this one from twoenty ten and it's an incomplete pass.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Ben, Oh my goodness, and Ben, what side on him pass?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Because Suggs was all over him.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
That is one of the great plays I have seen
in a long time. Suggs is going after the ball.
He's going for the strip instead of the sack. Here
trying to knock it out, grabbing everything it can, trying
to get the ball. Roethlisberger escapes, lips it out of there,
and saves himself about seven yards on the play. What
a play by.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Roethlisberger joining us right now, the guy who made that play,
Ben Roethlisberger, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So man, I'll tell you what I can remember for
some weird plays, making a tackle, you.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Know, shoe string tackles, incomplete passes, No, but that one, really,
I mean the respect between you and Suggs after that,
because he's talking about that play too. That play showed
the battle level that this rivalry used to inspires the gun.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
If you got to pick one play for Steelers Raves.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, the hit on mcgay he uh you know now,
but the point is that each side has had its moments.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, but that was yeah, that was like the both
of them.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, ever just going out. Yeah, you're right, Mike. I
mean there's like there's like five plays you know that
like that would from my you know, eighteen years of
playing those guys twice and sometimes three times a year,
you know, there there's very few times that there's like, uh,
you know, you think about that Robert, like how many
times was it a blowout? You know? It just I
(01:53):
can think of one time where we went through a
bunch of touchdowns on him at home. That was a
lot of fun. I think of ab reaching the ball
over the ball line. I think was that Christmas Man?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, it was extension.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah. Yeah, like like probably not the smartest play on
our part, you know, but it might work. Yeah, that
play like stiff arm and him and just throwing it
because I remember after that play, like I remember him
looking at me just being like like totally dejected, like
what are you doing. It's just like I don't know,
I'm just trying to live, but just trying to live
(02:24):
you told me a.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
While back that was one of your favorite plays, right,
is it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Still it is? No, It truly is because and again
for the most unique of reasons. But if I think
at that point happens with any other player or any
other team, it probably goes down as like a whatever.
But because that rivalry that it's him, how good he?
I mean, just all the all the factors that went
into it make that play that much more special, you
(02:50):
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But the difference, you know, you talked about this on
your podcast a couple of weeks ago, the difference in
the rivalry and the AFC North between Ravens, Bengals, and Browns,
they're all unique.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Right, Well yeah, I mean, well start with the Browns.
That's not really robbery.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
The Bengals one cards from them.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Absolutely all the time. They asked me about naming the
new stadium. But uh, you know, like the the Bengals
one was always just like you went into that game
and it's like someone's gonna get hurt and it's not
because of something like just hard football, right, Like you're
(03:34):
like something there's something dirty is gonna happen. You were
afraid of, like under the pile, late hit, cheap shot whatever,
this is going, yes, but then the rival of the
Bengal or the Ravens was like, I'm going to get hurt,
but I'm going to get hurt because it's just good
old fashioned football, and you're like, you know what, when
(03:55):
you're looking at like the Ravens games, you always looked
at the next week's opponent because you're like, I'm going
to be hurt. Who am I playing? You know? Yeah?
Are you going to play an easy team? Or you
know who are you playing next? Because you're gonna be
hurting for for a week or two after this game
because it's just it's just smashed mouth football. And it was.
It was and this sounds really weird, but it was fun.
(04:15):
It's fun to go and play just like good old
fashion football, talking trash, but like I'll never forget, you know,
ray Lewis put me into the ground and not being
able to breathe barely and then helping me up and
being like, hey, come on, come on, I don't want
you going on the game. I want to I want
to beat you. And you felt the same way, like
if he went to that game against the Ravens and
someone was out or questionable. You're like, no, come on,
I want you like part of you wanted them to play,
(04:37):
part of you didn't, you know, Like when Ed Reid
was questionable, I'm like, boy, I really i'd like to
beat the Ravens with Ed Reed, but he's really good.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
The Yeah, you know, That's how I feel about Lamar
this weekend. It's like, I'd be okay if he didn't play.
I really would.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I know. That's a big difference, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
DK Metcalf talked about having to be told about Steelers
rangements and he's like, yeah, you know, I heard they
were telling us about it, and I watched some footage
and old games and stuff, and he's like, but I
guess I'll you know, I'll find out when I get there.
But I'm just approaching it like another game. Is it
something that you can teach somebody about or do you
(05:17):
really need to experience it before you can fully comprehend
the the intensity of this matchup?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, I mean, Mike Push, I mean I think.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You and is it the same?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Is it the same? That's what I was gonna say,
Like even and obviously I've been removed not locking for
a couple of years. So I can't speak on for
the last couple of years, but even my last couple
of years there, it just felt different, you know. And
part of that is just, you know, when when the
players are different and things like that, and obviously the
coaches are the same. But at some point you kind
of lose some of it, I think a little bit.
(05:50):
But I you know, he'll get out there. And I
mean it wasn't too often either that both teams going
into that were like five hundreds. Usually both teams were
battling and you're you know you were going to be
you know. Obviously it still is a for the AFC North,
which is is kind of crazy. But this game, you know,
has a lot more on it than it probably has
in a while, and so I think he'll experience it
(06:11):
quick and get a feel for it. I remember when
when we were playing to coach Randy was was my
quarterback coach and coordinator. Like all the dry e race
boards were written in purple. You just got tired of
see him purple all week, and so you just added
that little and I'm sure I don't know they're still
doing the or not, but they just added that extra
little fuel to the to this rivalry.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What about the actual playing in Baltimore aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, that's a big deal. I mean that was one
of the places that you you you almost didn't feel
safe driving into the stadium. You know, you're going through
the you're you're driving through there and there's the people
or tailgating. I mean, that was one of the few
places that I saw grandma's doing things that grandma's aren't,
you know. So it's those fans are very passionate.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger with us right now. Steelers Ravens this Sunday.
Aaron Rodgers has that left for a situation that made
it impossible for him to get under center. I mean
it clearly hurt them last week. Is that something that
they can trot out again if he hasn't gotten any
better and expect for things to look differently on the
(07:14):
offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, I knew on the first play last week when
I saw what was on his wrist, I'm like, oh,
he will not be There's no way he can go
under center just because of that bulkiness, and that won't
it won't really bend backwards. And but but again, you
know I've played in games usually because of a lower
body injury, where I've been in the pistol the whole game,
and so you can easily adjust to your game plans
(07:38):
to the pistol. And I think if they are in
d going to stay with that game plan in terms
of being not able to go under center, then I
think they'll be a week better with it, and I
think they'll have, you know, better understanding it. It does
hurt you in certain areas of no kind of short yardage, yes,
being able to do some of the play action, turn
your back, you know, even like I wasn't really I
(08:00):
can't tell if he can, like Paul, hold the ball
to his left hand because obviously, if you're selling a
play action to the right side, you're holding that ball
out with your left hand. So there's definitely some things
in there that are gonna be unique, and maybe they're
gonna be you know, I heard at one point he
said he's gonna be working with the trainers. Maybe they'll
figure out something that he can wear that's a little
smaller that allows him to do something. So I would
expect his comfort level to be one more, you know,
(08:23):
not better this week because he played last week with it. Now.
My concern was last week too, the natural reaction of
when you go down, like bracing yourself right, Like, if
you're getting tackled from the right side and you go
to put your left hand down, just it's it's natural
to put your arm out. You're not gonna just keep
your arm in. I'm thinking, like, oh my wrist hurts,
let me fall on my shoulder. You're gonna brace yourself,
(08:45):
And so that'll be the interesting thing again. I mean, obviously,
we hope he doesn't use his face like last week
to brace himself when he gets hit from the blind side.
Let's hope that doesn't happen again.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
But just from a philosophical standpoint, how do you straddle
the line between all right, I'm gonna throw it to
the guy who's open, and all right, I need to
play I'm going to this guy and I don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I mean, I've been in both situations obviously. Sometimes when
things are just like like you're trying to spread the
ball around, you're trying to throw the guy off of
like a read because you know the defense gave me
this coverage and so it tells me I'm supposed to
go to this receiver because the play was designed for this,
but it's just not working. Well. You know what, at
some point, you say, you know what, forget that, I'm
(09:31):
going to my comfort blanket. I'm going to a guy
that I know is going to get open. I'm going
to a guy who I know is going to win.
And I've had guys like that. I've I've had the
be Hindwards, the Abs, the Heath Millers, guys that you're
just like, you know what, forget this, I'm finding that guy.
And so I think it just depends on the situation.
But it has to happen at some point.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
And how open do they have to be or do
you just throw it to him anyway?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
They don't, they don't need to be open. I mean,
you know, when you have that guy, you know, like
I said, the the guys I mentioned, and there were others,
but but when you have a guy like that, at
some point, it doesn't matter if they're open. You're like,
this guy is going to win. Now, if there's two
or three defenders on, that's a different ball game. But
one on one or tight coverage, I'm thinking, man, I
(10:14):
gotta I gotta put my trust in my guy that
I trust and throw him the ball and do that.
So you know, there's there's a little bit of that
and you gotta but again, I don't you know, Aaron
has that with guys, but he hasn't been here for
a long time doing all this stuff with some of
those guys, and he went here in the summer or
have a long term relationship with some of these guys.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You know, Yeah, not being here in the summer might
have ended up partner more than people anticipated. Are you
surprised how little friar Mouth has been involved?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Blows my mind. It's I I don't I don't get it.
I don't know what's going on. And I said on
the show this week, the only thing I can think
of is that Pat is not one of Arthur Smiths guys,
because I just don't and you know, like what do
you mean, like like he just he must either he
did something to him. I don't know what it is.
But but it blows my mind that you're not using
(11:00):
far with more, especially with the lack of a quote
unquote number two. Now, I'm not trying to take anything
away from Calvin Austin or Roman Wilson or anybody else,
but Pat Fryman. Your tight end can be a number two.
Sometimes he's a number one in certain situations. So I
don't know why he's not getting the ball more or
at least targeted. I mean, what are we doing the
last I mean you look at some games when he's targeted,
(11:20):
you're storing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah. Ben Roethlisberger talking Steels Ravens at Sunday one o'clock
kickoff at the M and T Bank Stadium. Ben, thanks
for making time for us today. Man, we greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Have time for one more question.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It depends on what it is. It doesn't get well,
what is it, Mike?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I was just curious.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
No, we don't.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Smart, But who's.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Gonna end up being the pet State coach?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I'm curious. I don't know. We'll have to wait to see. It.
Seems like no one wants to go.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I think that's what Crawford les to do. He's going
to go to your app.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, hey, hey, everyone's throwing their name in the half
because nobody wants to. Everyone's like, I'll take It's like
open tryouts for a kicker. I never outs for a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I never thought in a million years that Penn State
would have a hard time landing a coach. Honest to god,
I thought that that was going to be one of
the most coveted coaching positions, and now it's looking now
like their lack of ability to land someone is actually
hurting them to land someone.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And I think it's Miamuel I would get coaches easier
in Penn State right now.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, but I think it's circumstantial, just because everybody
got gassed this year and all the big programs needed coach,
Like there was a lot of big time jobs out
there this year.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Do you think it hurts Penn State? Do you think
it hurts Penn State though that they made like an
ego thing that they don't want to bring in a
guy like they have like quote unquote have to have
a guy with a name. That's because that's what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
I know at some point, I know, but at some
point you have to say, you know what, let's take
a shot with a guy like this or is that
like an ego thing, like no, we're Penn State, we
(12:59):
can't we have to have a name guy because right
now you don't have anybody.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
If to get an atmosphere that exists now was the
case when you were playing, you played, it might be
able to HIO a couple of years. How much money
would you have made to go to USC or Oregon
or wherever you wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I'll tell you what. I don't even want to think
about it because I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Been in Pittsburgh, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I mean, it's it's ridiculous the way this thing is.
I don't I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Hey man, thanks for making time for us today.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
All right, man, check out the Football and Podcast with
Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
How something just shut up? My god? Thanks Ben,
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