October 27, 2025 • 26 mins
Mark continues talking about that Steelers defense, and welcomes Matt Williamson to the program for his weekly hit discussing the Steelers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
The number to call for angst is A three to
three four one two WXDX. But I don't care if
you call. I don't even care if you listen. I
just is embarrassed that you had to watch what you watch.
What you've been watching with your favorite team, and you
know they're going nowhere. Please admit it to yourself. You'll
feel better admitted to me. Dial A three three four
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one two w XDX. I feel bad for Aaron Rodgers
losing the Green Bay and the Steelers played so sloppy.
All the new guys except for Rogers ain't done grades,
DK Metcalf, ain't no game breaker, a lot of drops.
Ramsey's a slot corner on a cover guy. Slay is
totally washed, He's gone from big play. Sleigh just shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Play at all.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Slay and Tomlin don't forget makes all the personnel decisions.
Tomlin can't be blamed enough. He is the root cause
of all that's gone wrong. Some producer with the B
team tweeted, if you blame pum when you're just blazy
and can't come up with the real reason, they're losing. Dude,
you're the problem with that station. They shouldn't open the
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mic for the producer. Just twiddle knobs and shut the
frig up. Know your role and stay in your lane. Actually,
the one guy, what's his name, the limits guy, he's okay.
But the rest of them, boy, if you put them
in a burlap sack and beat it with a microphone,
whoever got stitches would deserve it or pierce nipples whatever.
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Indianapolis is going to come to Akroscher and put up points,
and the Lchargers the opponent the week after they're coming
on rebate felt like a game the Steelers would yank
out for no good reason. But I said that because
I'm a dope, and they didn't and did not look
good in the process. Although the process did involve some yanking.
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This does not feel fixable. And I told you, I
told Jim, I told you about what about Cam, about everything?
I told you. None of this should be a big surprise.
The field wasn't great at Acressure. After Pitt played on Saturday,
Rogers looked like he slipped once when he was throwing.
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They just put sand on every spot they considered a
little bit dicey. But the badfield is way low on
the list of problems for the Steelers right now. I
said on Tim Bens's podcast, looked like a remake of Doone.
There was sand everywhere, and I would trust Shallamet in
Manda Man coverage before I trust Darius Slay. Darius shouldn't
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play sligh. A lot of this crap h really is
chickens coming home to roost. The defense was supposed to
be historic Tomlins were not, and it's allowing an average
of three hundred and eighty six yards per game. Four
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hundred and fifty four yards allowed last night. When the
defense allows more yards than I'm comfortable walking, that is
a problem.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
No sacks last night, no takeaways last night.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And when the Steelers don't put up showbiz stats like
that on defense, they got very little chance to win.
But let's be honest, and I've said this, how do
you feel knowing that everything I've said that you hated
when I said it is turning out to be absolutely right.
How do you feel in revisiting this one? DJ Watt
doesn't care about winning. He doesn't care about winning. He's
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money and stats and accolades. Maybe that's how the modern
day athlete is.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But TJ. Watt doesn't care about winning. You know how.
I know he's a real good player, and he never wins. Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
The Steelers keep flunking football one on one, all those mistackles.
You got this supposed genius coach and you got all
these mistackles and drops and dumb penalties and lack of discipline.
Tomin's a fraud, always has been, always has been, and
he'll never get fired. So you get to see this
over and over and over again moving forward. You get
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to hear his empty platitudes and not right horseman or
over and over and over again moving forward. Like the
teams I like, like the Penguins, they got problems, they
put a plan.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Together to try and solve them.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Tom Win don't got no plan, ain't never had no
plan beyond trying to win the next week, no strategy
beyond showing up and being the Steelers. And he won't
hire coaches who know more than he does, which is
why he's going a bunch of adults like Tara Austin.
While that's his lackey on defense, Arthur Smith, who I'm sorry.
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If this offense was any more prehistoric, it would have
been featured Jurassic Park one of the sequels. It's just
it's just a disaster, and I gotta tell you I
think it's hilarious. I do think it's funny because I
saw it coming. They don't see it coming. They think
they're always right. You think they're always right. I'm always right.
I'm the super genius, and this is funny. At frig
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I almost said funny afdf work, because that's how funny
it is funny enough that I would risk getting fired
to say the right word for how funny it is.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Because it is funny as that. If you don't think so,
I feel sorry for it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You've got no sense of humor anyway, calling out with
angst eight three three four one two w xdx A
three three four one two w xdx. Like I said,
we got some some fire sound from guys like Rex
Ryan and Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Smith. So keep it right here on the home of
Intact Nipples one oh five ninety X. It's not gonna
make us play a wild game. It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's not fair.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
The X one O five nine, the midth of the
Elite Steeler defense might finally be Dan here's Rex Ryan
on ESPN.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
This is unrecognizable to me. This is not the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And we saw it with Baltimore. We see it with them.
When you get old, you get slow, and if you're slow,
you can't do anything defensively. And I don't know the
safety over here twenty two.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Boy did he have a bad day. By the way,
he look like a guy playing Pop Warner.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
On that deep pass right there.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You know are.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
A little you know t ball.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Center fielder has no idea how to track a ball.
It was embarrassing as hell from start to finish for
that defense.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Twenty two is Stornhill, by the way, who does suck?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And that's a great take on that deep ball that
Love did a good job dropping in, But the play
was there to be made by the defense. Let's look
honestly at the secondary. Slay is totally washed up, shouldn't
even be in the league. Ramsey is mostly washed up.
He's an okay slot corner, nothing better. Porter sucks, very disappointing.
Eccles is a backup. Elliott can't be your best safety.
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Clark and Thornhill don't even belong in the league, let
alone on the field. And that's it. That's the list.
Porter is the most frustrating. He just hasn't developed. If anything,
he's gotten worse since a decent rookie year. Let's got
a scoot Scoots you wrong with double M what?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
What mine?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
How in the frig do you give a thirty year
old non quarterback one hundred and forty million dollars? Is
that one of the worst contracts in Pittsburgh sports history.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Uh, I'd have to go back and look at all
the contracts. But the thing is it was said the
what contract was was avoidable because you could have just said,
play out the last year of your contract and then
we'll franchise you if you think you're good enough, and
he would have been mad. He would have played. And
in the Steelers are soft arts, a soft owner. He
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never wants anybody to be unhappy, even for second. His
dad would have handled it, you know, before he got
feeble and then passed, But before that, his dad would
have handled it a lot different.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Who's defending do you think is worse? The Steelers or Liverpools.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I know Liverpools will get better. Let's go to Pat, Pat,
You're on with double M.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Hey, Sibertanius, How are you great? I just got a
quick question for you. A comparison between James Franklin and
Mike Tomlin. He made the comment when they fired James Franklin,
why what are they going to get? But whence you
say they're both equal, they both can't win the big games.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
James Franklin had one bad season, was in the semi
finals of the National Collegiate Playoff just last year. He
got fired for one bad year. Tomlin hasn't won a
playoff game eight years in a row. It's tough to
compare college versus pro in the first place, but I
think you sound almost imbecilic to compare the two.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But thank you for the call. Yeah, Franklin had won
bad year, got fired.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
If tom Win had been in the conference championship game
last year, I wouldn't be is critical of what's gone
on this year. But what's gone on this year has
gone on for the past seven years. Two four one
two three three three WXDX. Here's what I'm talking about
when it comes to TJ. Watt is teflon. I got
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a tweet from somebody we paid TJ. What all this
money needs to produce quoting me, I can't get to
the quarterback in one point five seconds. The DBS aren't covering. Okay, listen,
it was like that when Watt was in his prime too.
I like when I hear he's getting chipped, he's getting
double team. That always happened to him. That always happened
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to him. But now we can't handle it, and he's
getting forty one million a year. That's the problem. The
same thing is being used to neutralize TJ. Watt as
other teams always did, but now it's working even as
he's peaked in terms of paycheck. All right, not nex's
gonna talk about football guru Matt Williamson one oh five
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ninety X.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I'm not sure. Just big and it's soft and I
use a bunch of pillows and I saw the ex
at one oh five nine.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Here's a great tweet by Jerry Doulac at the Post Gazette.
There is nothing wrong with the Steelers offense that a
good defense couldn't fix. I wholeheartedly agree. Joining me now
to talk Steelers. He is our football guru. The former
pro and college football Scott from Steelers Nation Radio. Matt
Williamson madsons, I'm not sure where to begin what went
the most wrong last night.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's a great tweet by Jerry, by the way, and
I couldn't agree more. I mean, we could nitpick a
couple of little things on offense, but man, this defense
is just a collapse. And the joke I've been making
is they're just handing out completions these last two weeks
like Talloween Candy. I mean, there are no it's way
too easy on opposing tacks, passing games and just handing
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out easy, quick completions. And this is not an excuse
to the team, because everyone deals with hardship. But there
was a short stretch there, starting with the Tucker Craft
catch on a basically a hail Mary heave armpunt downfield
where you know he is the best player out there,
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reeks havoc on the play run after the catch, Elliott
gets hurt on the play, and then there were like
five or six other bad things that all happened right
in that neighborhood of the game, and they just weren't physically, emotionally,
mentally tough to get over it. You know, some injuries,
some bad calls, a bounce or two, and then from
there on out they were just non competit it, which
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is really frightening.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, if you made me pick the biggest problems with
that D I think the old guys, the big money guys,
the big name guys, Matt, they're all washed up. I
mean they're mediocre at best, and I don't think they're
gonna get better. And I don't think there's one single
defensive back aside from maybe Deshaun Elliott who's now injured,
that's playing up to his potential.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I think that's all, for the most part true right now.
Like I'm not sure Cam Hayward and TJ. Water are
bad players, and I'm not saying you implied that, but they're.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No I did. I did imply that. I think they're
past their prime.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I think they're past their peak, but I don't know
that their liabilities at this point. I think there's a
lot of problems. I mean, I think the secondary I
expected to be a strength and it just isn't. Slay
looks shot to me, the Saint collectively there, it's a
slow secondary. The linebackers are not recognizing route concepts very
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well at all. I think they're huge communication issues. I mean,
as someone goes in motion and all of a sudden,
linebackers and safety start looking at each other like, am
I supposed to move? What do I do? Palms in
the air, you know. I mean, there's way too much
of that stuff for my liking. Tackling's poor effort could
be a little better too, I mean in terms of
just toughness and you know, run into the ball and
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putting yourself in harm's way. But if I depend on
one thing, it's coverage. I mean, I think they brought
in all these corners, I know they did so they
could play more pressman, blitz more, be more aggressive, create
more splash, and none of them are covering well enough
so that therefore they don't get you know, they don't
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get those benefits whatsoever. And I also think their blitz
packages are becoming more and more predictable. They bring six,
but people know when they're coming, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Do they miss mink or safety?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And don't get me wrong, he hadn't been excelling the
last two years, but it seems like having him behind
that defense kind of stabilize things. And now they're really
bad at safety. I'm an Elliott fan, but if he's
your best safety, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'm a huge Elliot fan, and he cleaned up a
lot of problems against Chase Brown in the run game.
And he's a really solid player. But you're right, I
mean the other guys are Chuck Clark can't run and
probably should be in the league anymore. Thornhill looks confused
and all over the place. I don't know what the
deal is with Peppers, but there must be something keeping
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him off the field. Although he's more strong than free
I would consider. I'm not sure what the best answer is,
but as Ramsey, maybe a full time safety at this point.
But I hear you, yes, Minka is missed. He's a
great player. I mean, any great player is missed. But
also he's a great tackler, you know, and they're tackling
has not been very good since he's been gone, especially
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early in the season in these last two weeks. And
I also a great free safety and Ed Reed a mink.
Maybe you'll like this comparison, but I always called him
a lot like a Grant Fear. You're a great goalie
that allows Paul Coffee to just bite up and get
him play more offensive, you know what I mean? Earl
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Thomas allowed those en in front of him just to
be aggressive, because hey, if he gets behind you, I'll
make the safe.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Now, there are some guys I think are in a
bad spot, for example, Jalen Ramsey. I just don't think
he's that cover guy anymore. I think it'd still be
like a real good more more simply deployed slat corner
or like you said, maybe he just move him to safety.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
One thousand percent. And I had hoped that he'd be
more of an outside Lockdown's not the right word, but
traditional corner. But if you look at his last couple stops,
you know the Rams are like the smartest team in
the league. The last couple of teams he's played for
have used him as a nickel, as a specialty player.
They call it a star or a dime or a safety.
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I mean, yes, he will line up outside the numbers some.
But the thing he's gonna follow Jamar Chase around like
he's Derel Reeves is crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
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Why is what quiet? Because even if we disagree about
what point he's at in his career.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He's not doing much, is he.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, he's not, and this isn't new for him, but
he is getting a ton of attention still. I mean,
like his chip rate and double team rates, they're as
high as they've ever been. So the opponents respect him
a great deal, Okay, I mean I think there's a
lot to be said in this sport with how smart
opponents gain planned for your favorite team, and they still
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fear him a great deal.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, but like you said, that's always been going on
with him.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
That's not new, right of course. And if he was
treated like any other edge player, I'm sure his production
would spight, but then you'd get back to being doubled.
He'd start to disappear again too. I think there's a
couple of fundamental issues with Watch, who I still think
is a really good player, And right now the defense
is just lacking splash for these last two weeks, which
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is probably a little bit of flukiness. I'm sure they'll
cause their share of fumbles and bat their share passes
down at the line scrimmage, as they always do. But
this kind of goes back to like, why do I
like Garrett more than what because he wins in more
ways As a pass rusher. Wat's still a great run defender,
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but as a pass rusher, almost all of Watt's production
comes beating the tackle on his outside shoulder and rarely
does he cross his face or bull rush or He's
not a one trick Tony. And it's a great trick.
But the world knows what's coming.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It's the the guy that throws one hundred mile an
hour fastball and you know it's coming, you just can't hit.
And now his fastball is ninety eight, you know what
I mean, And everyone knows it's coming, but it's not
as lethal as it's been. And I also think not
moving them around hinders them a great deal, whether he
wants to or not. But all the other great ones
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get a lot more favorable matchups.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Like you, Matt.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I don't want to nitpick too much with the offense.
I think they're doing enough. I mean, there's some things
that could improve, and but one guy I'm disappointed with
his DK Metcalf. Too many drops, not great numbers, not
enough big plays.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, I've done. I've been on the air a lot
today as I can imagine, and several things I've said
about Metcalf was you're leaving me short one too many
times a game. You know, like Turner rips the ball
out of your hands against the Bengals. You're sixty pounds
heavier than that guy. You can't let that happen. You know,
there's a player two in this game where it just
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goes off his hands, and he's not the problem. But
I would expect just a little bit more. Give me
five percent more, give me ten percent more. Where you
look at a guy like John new Smith and I
think what's he doing? Well, you know I need fifty
percent more from him.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
INDI in the LA Charge are going to be tough
nuts to crack, aren't they?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh? Indyes, Indy's the best offense in the league. And
I know the Steelers did well against Josh Jacobs, and
I trust their run defense more than I do their
pass defense. But Halloween's right around the corner. And Jonathan
Taylor is Michael Myers. I mean, he is having a
ridiculous season, and I'm sure he's gonna watch the Steeler
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tape and just salivate. And they have so many weapons
and they're extremely well coached, offensive minded head coach they're
super efficient, they're super explosive. The defense is good, it's improved,
but it's the best offense in the league. And maybe
my tune will change over the course the next couple
of days. But they could easily drop forty or forty
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five on the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
How much does it hurt of Siamalo winell miss games,
which I hear that may well happen.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I only see him all who's been playing great, And
I think you could even make the argument that Calvin
Anderson would be a better left guard. But I'm still
a huge fan of that jumbo package. I think that
made them really hard to play against since Dublin up
until the time. See them all who got hurt and
if that has to go away, and I don't think
there's another offensive lineman you promote into that role. I
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think that's where it hurts them a lot, because I
really thought that was a big advantage they created. I
get the coaching staff a lot of credit for that.
So our earlier point about Elliott, it's amazing to me
because we've already seen him out of the lineup. That
communication goes to hell when he's not there. Everyone looks
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around like they don't know what to do. He cleans
up so many bad run fits and he's so solid
and protection and as a coverage player that I mean
on the drive, Dale and I used to do this
thing where we would rank, like who are the most
important Steelers? You know, who the guys you can afford
to lose least. That doesn't mean they're the best guy,
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but like Watt wouldn't be number one because her big exists,
and the preseason I probably had Elliott at like eighteenth
on the team. Now he might be like eight. You know,
he's way more important than he should be to your
original point, but it's also a testament to him being
a really good player.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
We talked about nitpicking on offense and one other thing
I'll tack on. I hate when they lay up.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
For field goals.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
And Tom Win even talked about after the game how
you need touchdowns not field goals. Well, a lot of
that's his timid decision making.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
For me, Yes, if we were going to keep on
the nitpick conversation, I was going to bring that up.
And Jalen Warren can't have three second half carries when
you're running the ball well and you got the ball
with the lead on the opening kickoff of the second half.
I mean, you can't end up with three carries from
that point going on. And I'm hoping, I have my doubts,
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but I'm hoping that Tomlin realizes, hey, this is a
bad defense and therefore I'm going to have to go
for more on fourth bounds and I'm going to have
to not play for field goals because yeah, they were
winning what sixty nine or something like that at the half,
but my notes at halftime were, Okay, they're in a
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good spot, but and one of them, the field goals
aren't going to beat this team, you know what I mean, Yeah,
they'll beat the Browns. You're not going to beat the
good teams with field goals. What thank god boses around.
Imagine them with that Boswa.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, here's my one disclaimer with boss Well, who probably
is the best kicker in the league right now, but
I think he's their security blanket and makes them too
easily given to settling for the field goal.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, quite possibly. And frankly, the streak of not losing seasons,
there would no chance still be intact if they just
had an average NFL career.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
How'd you right?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Rogers's play. I thought he was okay, I thought he
was precise. But he's being used as just a game manager,
isn't He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Try a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Now I really respect him from the neck up too.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Like his pre snap stuff is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It's unbelievable, and he really is in control of the game.
And I love that he choose out the coaches and
players when they screw up. And it's easy. I mean,
in the past people have looked at him like, what
a prima donna? Who's he think he is? No, he
knows that he's right. He's not just like giving war
In a hard time for flicking him the ball back
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in the fleef liquor. It's like, you screwed up, dude,
we can't have that. He even does it towards the
coaching staff. But he's not Josh Allen, you know. I mean,
he's not superman. He can only do so much. He's
the least of their problems, though, oh no.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
No question. He might be the biggest of their strengths.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Now, was Jordan love Hood or did the Steelers just
terribly defending that?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Terribly?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
They're way too generous with giving away easy completions. But
I do think Love has really progressed because he used
to be I was describing him as a big game hunter.
You know, we wouldn't take those easy checkdowns, those death
by a thousand paper cuts. And he's maturing a great deal. Hey,
I'll just dump it here and let these guys go
after the catch and Packers put up obscene after the
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catch numbers. I think Love got bailed out on two
or three plays, namely that craft you know arm punt
that went his way. His guy made a play, but
it wasn't a great throw. I thought he played really,
really well though. I mean, I came away with that
game saying, boy to Steelers a huge problems. But green
Bay could win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And finally, Matt, what's going to happen the AFC North?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Because at four and three, even as bad as the
Steelers are playing, even with that defense being a catastrophe,
they still have cushion. And I mean, I find it
hard to say they for sure won't win it, although
I think Baltimore is going to come on strong.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Don't you.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I do too. I don't think the Steelers win this
week coming up, I I'll reevaluated come Chargers week, But
I think you're in the midst of a three game
losing streak here and Baltimore winning is massive. I think
since he's out of it obviously or close to obviously,
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the math does not do the Ravens any favors, and
they basically can only lose one, maybe two more games.
But I think on it's all said and done, they'll
be the better team of the Steelers. I don't know.
I say only see one team, and coming out of
the playoffs in this division, I don't see they'll be
in a wildcard team and it might come down to
like a Week eighteen tiebreaker situation, because I think it's
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going to be neck and neck, and when the regular
season ends, I think we'll all agree that Baltimore is
the best team in the division.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, tom My producer brought up interesting scenario.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
He's he expects the Ravens and Steelers to both be
six and six when they play on December seventh.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Oh wow, I'll look at the schedule, but that doesn't
shock me one bit, and I definitely think the momentum
will be going opposite directions.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Here's the craziest thing.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Cleveland probably has the best defense in the division, and
they have no chance to win it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
They have the best unit in the division. You know,
if you look at the eight offenses and defenses, their
defense is number one, but their offense is just so bad.
And I think they're gonna go to Shador.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
That's certainly what's best for business. Matt is always great stuff.
I appreciate you taking the.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Time, all right, but take care.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
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Speaker 1 (26:49):
Keep it right here on one oh five ninety x
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
The number to call for angst is A three to
three four one two WXDX. But I don't care if
you call. I don't even care if you listen. I
just is embarrassed that you had to watch what you watch.
What you've been watching with your favorite team, and you
know they're going nowhere. Please admit it to yourself. You'll
feel better admitted to me. Dial A three three four
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one two w XDX. I feel bad for Aaron Rodgers
losing the Green Bay and the Steelers played so sloppy.
All the new guys except for Rogers ain't done grades,
DK Metcalf, ain't no game breaker, a lot of drops.
Ramsey's a slot corner on a cover guy. Slay is
totally washed, He's gone from big play. Sleigh just shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Play at all.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Slay and Tomlin don't forget makes all the personnel decisions.
Tomlin can't be blamed enough. He is the root cause
of all that's gone wrong. Some producer with the B
team tweeted, if you blame pum when you're just blazy
and can't come up with the real reason, they're losing. Dude,
you're the problem with that station. They shouldn't open the
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mic for the producer. Just twiddle knobs and shut the
frig up. Know your role and stay in your lane. Actually,
the one guy, what's his name, the limits guy, he's okay.
But the rest of them, boy, if you put them
in a burlap sack and beat it with a microphone,
whoever got stitches would deserve it or pierce nipples whatever.
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Indianapolis is going to come to Akroscher and put up points,
and the Lchargers the opponent the week after they're coming
on rebate felt like a game the Steelers would yank
out for no good reason. But I said that because
I'm a dope, and they didn't and did not look
good in the process. Although the process did involve some yanking.
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This does not feel fixable. And I told you, I
told Jim, I told you about what about Cam, about everything?
I told you. None of this should be a big surprise.
The field wasn't great at Acressure. After Pitt played on Saturday,
Rogers looked like he slipped once when he was throwing.
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They just put sand on every spot they considered a
little bit dicey. But the badfield is way low on
the list of problems for the Steelers right now. I
said on Tim Bens's podcast, looked like a remake of Doone.
There was sand everywhere, and I would trust Shallamet in
Manda Man coverage before I trust Darius Slay. Darius shouldn't
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play sligh. A lot of this crap h really is
chickens coming home to roost. The defense was supposed to
be historic Tomlins were not, and it's allowing an average
of three hundred and eighty six yards per game. Four
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hundred and fifty four yards allowed last night. When the
defense allows more yards than I'm comfortable walking, that is
a problem.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
No sacks last night, no takeaways last night.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And when the Steelers don't put up showbiz stats like
that on defense, they got very little chance to win.
But let's be honest, and I've said this, how do
you feel knowing that everything I've said that you hated
when I said it is turning out to be absolutely right.
How do you feel in revisiting this one? DJ Watt
doesn't care about winning. He doesn't care about winning. He's
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money and stats and accolades. Maybe that's how the modern
day athlete is.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But TJ. Watt doesn't care about winning. You know how.
I know he's a real good player, and he never wins. Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
The Steelers keep flunking football one on one, all those mistackles.
You got this supposed genius coach and you got all
these mistackles and drops and dumb penalties and lack of discipline.
Tomin's a fraud, always has been, always has been, and
he'll never get fired. So you get to see this
over and over and over again moving forward. You get
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to hear his empty platitudes and not right horseman or
over and over and over again moving forward. Like the
teams I like, like the Penguins, they got problems, they
put a plan.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Together to try and solve them.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Tom Win don't got no plan, ain't never had no
plan beyond trying to win the next week, no strategy
beyond showing up and being the Steelers. And he won't
hire coaches who know more than he does, which is
why he's going a bunch of adults like Tara Austin.
While that's his lackey on defense, Arthur Smith, who I'm sorry.
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If this offense was any more prehistoric, it would have
been featured Jurassic Park one of the sequels. It's just
it's just a disaster, and I gotta tell you I
think it's hilarious. I do think it's funny because I
saw it coming. They don't see it coming. They think
they're always right. You think they're always right. I'm always right.
I'm the super genius, and this is funny. At frig
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I almost said funny afdf work, because that's how funny
it is funny enough that I would risk getting fired
to say the right word for how funny it is.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Because it is funny as that. If you don't think so,
I feel sorry for it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You've got no sense of humor anyway, calling out with
angst eight three three four one two w xdx A
three three four one two w xdx. Like I said,
we got some some fire sound from guys like Rex
Ryan and Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Smith. So keep it right here on the home of
Intact Nipples one oh five ninety X. It's not gonna
make us play a wild game. It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's not fair.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
The X one O five nine, the midth of the
Elite Steeler defense might finally be Dan here's Rex Ryan
on ESPN.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
This is unrecognizable to me. This is not the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And we saw it with Baltimore. We see it with them.
When you get old, you get slow, and if you're slow,
you can't do anything defensively. And I don't know the
safety over here twenty two.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Boy did he have a bad day. By the way,
he look like a guy playing Pop Warner.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
On that deep pass right there.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You know are.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
A little you know t ball.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Center fielder has no idea how to track a ball.
It was embarrassing as hell from start to finish for
that defense.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Twenty two is Stornhill, by the way, who does suck?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And that's a great take on that deep ball that
Love did a good job dropping in, But the play
was there to be made by the defense. Let's look
honestly at the secondary. Slay is totally washed up, shouldn't
even be in the league. Ramsey is mostly washed up.
He's an okay slot corner, nothing better. Porter sucks, very disappointing.
Eccles is a backup. Elliott can't be your best safety.
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Clark and Thornhill don't even belong in the league, let
alone on the field. And that's it. That's the list.
Porter is the most frustrating. He just hasn't developed. If anything,
he's gotten worse since a decent rookie year. Let's got
a scoot Scoots you wrong with double M what?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
What mine?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
How in the frig do you give a thirty year
old non quarterback one hundred and forty million dollars? Is
that one of the worst contracts in Pittsburgh sports history.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Uh, I'd have to go back and look at all
the contracts. But the thing is it was said the
what contract was was avoidable because you could have just said,
play out the last year of your contract and then
we'll franchise you if you think you're good enough, and
he would have been mad. He would have played. And
in the Steelers are soft arts, a soft owner. He
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never wants anybody to be unhappy, even for second. His
dad would have handled it, you know, before he got
feeble and then passed, But before that, his dad would
have handled it a lot different.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Who's defending do you think is worse? The Steelers or Liverpools.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I know Liverpools will get better. Let's go to Pat, Pat,
You're on with double M.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Hey, Sibertanius, How are you great? I just got a
quick question for you. A comparison between James Franklin and
Mike Tomlin. He made the comment when they fired James Franklin,
why what are they going to get? But whence you
say they're both equal, they both can't win the big games.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
James Franklin had one bad season, was in the semi
finals of the National Collegiate Playoff just last year. He
got fired for one bad year. Tomlin hasn't won a
playoff game eight years in a row. It's tough to
compare college versus pro in the first place, but I
think you sound almost imbecilic to compare the two.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But thank you for the call. Yeah, Franklin had won
bad year, got fired.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
If tom Win had been in the conference championship game
last year, I wouldn't be is critical of what's gone
on this year. But what's gone on this year has
gone on for the past seven years. Two four one
two three three three WXDX. Here's what I'm talking about
when it comes to TJ. Watt is teflon. I got
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a tweet from somebody we paid TJ. What all this
money needs to produce quoting me, I can't get to
the quarterback in one point five seconds. The DBS aren't covering. Okay, listen,
it was like that when Watt was in his prime too.
I like when I hear he's getting chipped, he's getting
double team. That always happened to him. That always happened
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to him. But now we can't handle it, and he's
getting forty one million a year. That's the problem. The
same thing is being used to neutralize TJ. Watt as
other teams always did, but now it's working even as
he's peaked in terms of paycheck. All right, not nex's
gonna talk about football guru Matt Williamson one oh five
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ninety X.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I'm not sure. Just big and it's soft and I
use a bunch of pillows and I saw the ex
at one oh five nine.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Here's a great tweet by Jerry Doulac at the Post Gazette.
There is nothing wrong with the Steelers offense that a
good defense couldn't fix. I wholeheartedly agree. Joining me now
to talk Steelers. He is our football guru. The former
pro and college football Scott from Steelers Nation Radio. Matt
Williamson madsons, I'm not sure where to begin what went
the most wrong last night.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's a great tweet by Jerry, by the way, and
I couldn't agree more. I mean, we could nitpick a
couple of little things on offense, but man, this defense
is just a collapse. And the joke I've been making
is they're just handing out completions these last two weeks
like Talloween Candy. I mean, there are no it's way
too easy on opposing tacks, passing games and just handing
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out easy, quick completions. And this is not an excuse
to the team, because everyone deals with hardship. But there
was a short stretch there, starting with the Tucker Craft
catch on a basically a hail Mary heave armpunt downfield
where you know he is the best player out there,
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reeks havoc on the play run after the catch, Elliott
gets hurt on the play, and then there were like
five or six other bad things that all happened right
in that neighborhood of the game, and they just weren't physically, emotionally,
mentally tough to get over it. You know, some injuries,
some bad calls, a bounce or two, and then from
there on out they were just non competit it, which
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is really frightening.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, if you made me pick the biggest problems with
that D I think the old guys, the big money guys,
the big name guys, Matt, they're all washed up. I
mean they're mediocre at best, and I don't think they're
gonna get better. And I don't think there's one single
defensive back aside from maybe Deshaun Elliott who's now injured,
that's playing up to his potential.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I think that's all, for the most part true right now.
Like I'm not sure Cam Hayward and TJ. Water are
bad players, and I'm not saying you implied that, but they're.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No I did. I did imply that. I think they're
past their prime.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I think they're past their peak, but I don't know
that their liabilities at this point. I think there's a
lot of problems. I mean, I think the secondary I
expected to be a strength and it just isn't. Slay
looks shot to me, the Saint collectively there, it's a
slow secondary. The linebackers are not recognizing route concepts very
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well at all. I think they're huge communication issues. I mean,
as someone goes in motion and all of a sudden,
linebackers and safety start looking at each other like, am
I supposed to move? What do I do? Palms in
the air, you know. I mean, there's way too much
of that stuff for my liking. Tackling's poor effort could
be a little better too, I mean in terms of
just toughness and you know, run into the ball and
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putting yourself in harm's way. But if I depend on
one thing, it's coverage. I mean, I think they brought
in all these corners, I know they did so they
could play more pressman, blitz more, be more aggressive, create
more splash, and none of them are covering well enough
so that therefore they don't get you know, they don't
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get those benefits whatsoever. And I also think their blitz
packages are becoming more and more predictable. They bring six,
but people know when they're coming, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Do they miss mink or safety?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And don't get me wrong, he hadn't been excelling the
last two years, but it seems like having him behind
that defense kind of stabilize things. And now they're really
bad at safety. I'm an Elliott fan, but if he's
your best safety, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'm a huge Elliot fan, and he cleaned up a
lot of problems against Chase Brown in the run game.
And he's a really solid player. But you're right, I
mean the other guys are Chuck Clark can't run and
probably should be in the league anymore. Thornhill looks confused
and all over the place. I don't know what the
deal is with Peppers, but there must be something keeping
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him off the field. Although he's more strong than free
I would consider. I'm not sure what the best answer is,
but as Ramsey, maybe a full time safety at this point.
But I hear you, yes, Minka is missed. He's a
great player. I mean, any great player is missed. But
also he's a great tackler, you know, and they're tackling
has not been very good since he's been gone, especially
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early in the season in these last two weeks. And
I also a great free safety and Ed Reed a mink.
Maybe you'll like this comparison, but I always called him
a lot like a Grant Fear. You're a great goalie
that allows Paul Coffee to just bite up and get
him play more offensive, you know what I mean? Earl
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Thomas allowed those en in front of him just to
be aggressive, because hey, if he gets behind you, I'll
make the safe.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Now, there are some guys I think are in a
bad spot, for example, Jalen Ramsey. I just don't think
he's that cover guy anymore. I think it'd still be
like a real good more more simply deployed slat corner
or like you said, maybe he just move him to safety.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
One thousand percent. And I had hoped that he'd be
more of an outside Lockdown's not the right word, but
traditional corner. But if you look at his last couple stops,
you know the Rams are like the smartest team in
the league. The last couple of teams he's played for
have used him as a nickel, as a specialty player.
They call it a star or a dime or a safety.
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I mean, yes, he will line up outside the numbers some.
But the thing he's gonna follow Jamar Chase around like
he's Derel Reeves is crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We're talking about Williamson, our pro football gur or who
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Why is what quiet? Because even if we disagree about
what point he's at in his career.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He's not doing much, is he.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, he's not, and this isn't new for him, but
he is getting a ton of attention still. I mean,
like his chip rate and double team rates, they're as
high as they've ever been. So the opponents respect him
a great deal, Okay, I mean I think there's a
lot to be said in this sport with how smart
opponents gain planned for your favorite team, and they still
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fear him a great deal.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, but like you said, that's always been going on
with him.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
That's not new, right of course. And if he was
treated like any other edge player, I'm sure his production
would spight, but then you'd get back to being doubled.
He'd start to disappear again too. I think there's a
couple of fundamental issues with Watch, who I still think
is a really good player, And right now the defense
is just lacking splash for these last two weeks, which
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is probably a little bit of flukiness. I'm sure they'll
cause their share of fumbles and bat their share passes
down at the line scrimmage, as they always do. But
this kind of goes back to like, why do I
like Garrett more than what because he wins in more
ways As a pass rusher. Wat's still a great run defender,
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but as a pass rusher, almost all of Watt's production
comes beating the tackle on his outside shoulder and rarely
does he cross his face or bull rush or He's
not a one trick Tony. And it's a great trick.
But the world knows what's coming.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It's the the guy that throws one hundred mile an
hour fastball and you know it's coming, you just can't hit.
And now his fastball is ninety eight, you know what
I mean, And everyone knows it's coming, but it's not
as lethal as it's been. And I also think not
moving them around hinders them a great deal, whether he
wants to or not. But all the other great ones
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get a lot more favorable matchups.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Like you, Matt.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I don't want to nitpick too much with the offense.
I think they're doing enough. I mean, there's some things
that could improve, and but one guy I'm disappointed with
his DK Metcalf. Too many drops, not great numbers, not
enough big plays.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, I've done. I've been on the air a lot
today as I can imagine, and several things I've said
about Metcalf was you're leaving me short one too many
times a game. You know, like Turner rips the ball
out of your hands against the Bengals. You're sixty pounds
heavier than that guy. You can't let that happen. You know,
there's a player two in this game where it just
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goes off his hands, and he's not the problem. But
I would expect just a little bit more. Give me
five percent more, give me ten percent more. Where you
look at a guy like John new Smith and I
think what's he doing? Well, you know I need fifty
percent more from him.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
INDI in the LA Charge are going to be tough
nuts to crack, aren't they?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh? Indyes, Indy's the best offense in the league. And
I know the Steelers did well against Josh Jacobs, and
I trust their run defense more than I do their
pass defense. But Halloween's right around the corner. And Jonathan
Taylor is Michael Myers. I mean, he is having a
ridiculous season, and I'm sure he's gonna watch the Steeler
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tape and just salivate. And they have so many weapons
and they're extremely well coached, offensive minded head coach they're
super efficient, they're super explosive. The defense is good, it's improved,
but it's the best offense in the league. And maybe
my tune will change over the course the next couple
of days. But they could easily drop forty or forty
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five on the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
How much does it hurt of Siamalo winell miss games,
which I hear that may well happen.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I only see him all who's been playing great, And
I think you could even make the argument that Calvin
Anderson would be a better left guard. But I'm still
a huge fan of that jumbo package. I think that
made them really hard to play against since Dublin up
until the time. See them all who got hurt and
if that has to go away, and I don't think
there's another offensive lineman you promote into that role. I
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think that's where it hurts them a lot, because I
really thought that was a big advantage they created. I
get the coaching staff a lot of credit for that.
So our earlier point about Elliott, it's amazing to me
because we've already seen him out of the lineup. That
communication goes to hell when he's not there. Everyone looks
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around like they don't know what to do. He cleans
up so many bad run fits and he's so solid
and protection and as a coverage player that I mean
on the drive, Dale and I used to do this
thing where we would rank, like who are the most
important Steelers? You know, who the guys you can afford
to lose least. That doesn't mean they're the best guy,
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but like Watt wouldn't be number one because her big exists,
and the preseason I probably had Elliott at like eighteenth
on the team. Now he might be like eight. You know,
he's way more important than he should be to your
original point, but it's also a testament to him being
a really good player.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
We talked about nitpicking on offense and one other thing
I'll tack on. I hate when they lay up.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
For field goals.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
And Tom Win even talked about after the game how
you need touchdowns not field goals. Well, a lot of
that's his timid decision making.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
For me, Yes, if we were going to keep on
the nitpick conversation, I was going to bring that up.
And Jalen Warren can't have three second half carries when
you're running the ball well and you got the ball
with the lead on the opening kickoff of the second half.
I mean, you can't end up with three carries from
that point going on. And I'm hoping, I have my doubts,
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but I'm hoping that Tomlin realizes, hey, this is a
bad defense and therefore I'm going to have to go
for more on fourth bounds and I'm going to have
to not play for field goals because yeah, they were
winning what sixty nine or something like that at the half,
but my notes at halftime were, Okay, they're in a
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good spot, but and one of them, the field goals
aren't going to beat this team, you know what I mean, Yeah,
they'll beat the Browns. You're not going to beat the
good teams with field goals. What thank god boses around.
Imagine them with that Boswa.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, here's my one disclaimer with boss Well, who probably
is the best kicker in the league right now, but
I think he's their security blanket and makes them too
easily given to settling for the field goal.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, quite possibly. And frankly, the streak of not losing seasons,
there would no chance still be intact if they just
had an average NFL career.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
How'd you right?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Rogers's play. I thought he was okay, I thought he
was precise. But he's being used as just a game manager,
isn't He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Try a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Now I really respect him from the neck up too.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Like his pre snap stuff is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It's unbelievable, and he really is in control of the game.
And I love that he choose out the coaches and
players when they screw up. And it's easy. I mean,
in the past people have looked at him like, what
a prima donna? Who's he think he is? No, he
knows that he's right. He's not just like giving war
In a hard time for flicking him the ball back
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in the fleef liquor. It's like, you screwed up, dude,
we can't have that. He even does it towards the
coaching staff. But he's not Josh Allen, you know. I mean,
he's not superman. He can only do so much. He's
the least of their problems, though, oh no.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
No question. He might be the biggest of their strengths.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Now, was Jordan love Hood or did the Steelers just
terribly defending that?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Terribly?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
They're way too generous with giving away easy completions. But
I do think Love has really progressed because he used
to be I was describing him as a big game hunter.
You know, we wouldn't take those easy checkdowns, those death
by a thousand paper cuts. And he's maturing a great deal. Hey,
I'll just dump it here and let these guys go
after the catch and Packers put up obscene after the
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catch numbers. I think Love got bailed out on two
or three plays, namely that craft you know arm punt
that went his way. His guy made a play, but
it wasn't a great throw. I thought he played really,
really well though. I mean, I came away with that
game saying, boy to Steelers a huge problems. But green
Bay could win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And finally, Matt, what's going to happen the AFC North?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Because at four and three, even as bad as the
Steelers are playing, even with that defense being a catastrophe,
they still have cushion. And I mean, I find it
hard to say they for sure won't win it, although
I think Baltimore is going to come on strong.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Don't you.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I do too. I don't think the Steelers win this
week coming up, I I'll reevaluated come Chargers week, But
I think you're in the midst of a three game
losing streak here and Baltimore winning is massive. I think
since he's out of it obviously or close to obviously,
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the math does not do the Ravens any favors, and
they basically can only lose one, maybe two more games.
But I think on it's all said and done, they'll
be the better team of the Steelers. I don't know.
I say only see one team, and coming out of
the playoffs in this division, I don't see they'll be
in a wildcard team and it might come down to
like a Week eighteen tiebreaker situation, because I think it's
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going to be neck and neck, and when the regular
season ends, I think we'll all agree that Baltimore is
the best team in the division.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, tom My producer brought up interesting scenario.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
He's he expects the Ravens and Steelers to both be
six and six when they play on December seventh.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Oh wow, I'll look at the schedule, but that doesn't
shock me one bit, and I definitely think the momentum
will be going opposite directions.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Here's the craziest thing.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Cleveland probably has the best defense in the division, and
they have no chance to win it.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
They have the best unit in the division. You know,
if you look at the eight offenses and defenses, their
defense is number one, but their offense is just so bad.
And I think they're gonna go to Shador.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
That's certainly what's best for business. Matt is always great stuff.
I appreciate you taking the.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Time, all right, but take care.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's the great Matt Williamson, brought to us by shop
dot Steelers dot com.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Keep it right here on one oh five ninety x
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