November 20, 2025 • 39 mins
Mark is joined by legendary drummer Carmine Appice to start the hour. Then Penguins defenseman Ryan Graves joins the show. Ask Mark Anything!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
My guest right now is one of rock and Roll's
all time greatest drummers. He's appearing at Irwin's Lamp Theater
with six Guns Sally on Saturday the twenty ninth. He's
played with Vanilla Fudge, Rod Stewart, Ozzie, Jeff Beck. The
list goes on and on. It's a pleasure to talk
to Carmen Apaci or or maybe it's a piece Carmen. I.
I've gone back and forth since I was a kid
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on how to pronounce your name.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Straighten it out.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Carma Carmi Italian named Carmen, not Carmon.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, I thought I got that almost right, But what
about the last name?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
A piece?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Okay, I'm I'm out for two and I apologize much
respect for you.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
But problem, I can't believe I'm still going through that.
My brother, my brother confused everybody when I was at
Rock Carmen.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
A piece, brother.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, and your Wikipedia says that, but gee, not that
that's the definitive source.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, yeah, God knowsers put that in there. I didn't
even look at that stuff. Well, nice to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, nice to talk to you in a real, real pleasure.
And I don't know where to start with your career.
But let's go basic. What makes you different from other
great drummers? Because the styles can differ so much, can't they.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I always say I'm the original. I think that's fair
pretty much pretty much it.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You know, when I came on to seeing people were
playing drums lightly, I came on and beat the hell
out of the drums. I was a beast as a
monsoon when I was a kid. And you know, they
got me in the led Zeppelin movie playing on the
s Sullivan Show for a second, And you know.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's what I created.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I created power drumming, you know, heavy power drumming and
everything you know from double bass drums. And I wrote
drum books and the clinics, and I taught people. So
a lot of the stuff that's going on today came
from what I sawted back fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know, no, I'll buy all of that for sure.
And I want to talk about some of the guys
you played with. You played with Jeff Beck, an all
time great on the guitar.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What was that like? How was that partnership?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Well, back in those days, Jeff beck wasn't a big
solo water so we were equal.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Bill was Beck pogetting the piece. So we were just
as big as Jeff and it was it was a
lot of fun. But he was you know, he had
his video Christ secrecies.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
You know, like one day we were we were in
Europe and now you're actual.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We were in Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
We got off to breakfast and there were times of
sound checks and to me, I said.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, Jeff went home. He went home, you know. So
Jeff was known for crazy stuff like that, but he
was a good guy. I loved Jeff. We had some
great times together. We did.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Last year we released a Beck Poge in the Piece
live box set, you know, which came out really well.
And uh, we have some new stuff on their horizon
that we're looking at releasing.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And you know, I love Jeff. He was like a brother,
you know.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Now you had a great one with Rod's Stewart didn't
And don't you still playing kind of a Rod Stewart
tribute band with other guys he used to play with Rod.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, well, I don't call it a tribute band because
I'm in it.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, No, it's your band, just with a different singer.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
It's a show. It's a show. It's a show.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
It's called we're changing the name to Rod the show,
and I tell stories about how songs.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Happen, how this happened, how that happened, and.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Uh, we're developing it more into a show with like
an inshow that's going to have a historical history about
Rod and building up to me playing with Rod and
Catcher as a sax Payer play with you too, and
it's a great show to a tremendous show.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Everywhere we go people love it.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
That's how I met Dave, who's band I'm playing with
Sixpence Sally. He that we did a show together and
so he loved us. He just came to see us
in September. He said, man, the show changed so much.
Is really a show now? And I took it. You know,
people called it a tribute. I didn't like it because
you know, attributed some day that they are tributing somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But I was in.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
It was I recorded, I wrote, I played on the road.
We have the sentences of the band. I sold millions
of albums with Rod, So it wasn't really a tribute
to me.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It was my life. It was my band, so in
that anyway, So they.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Had no in that Vandcarmine I mean, you co wrote
Rod's biggest tid ever. Do you think I'm sexy? Kind
of a disco song? How did that song come about?
That was an amazing leap for Rod and it was
just such a perfectly constructed song.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Well, it started with he was stated the band, I
want a song like Missing You by the Rollly Songs.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So everybody went home and did it. And I went
home and did it.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And I went to my friend Dwayne Ditching's house, he
was another co writer, and we put it together on
his little studio and we wrote the bridge and everything.
Rod loved it, and that was it, you know, and
then we produced. Tom Daut produced it. You know, before
he put all the strings and everything on. We had
three guitar, bass, drums, and keyboard man. They sounded powerful
and things sound like disco. But then he did all
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this other stuff on it. Who could argue when we
went to number one in fifteen countries, you know?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So now I can't argue.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That A week from Saturday, your guesting with six Guns
Sally at the Lamp Theater in Erwin. What will you
be doing at that show? Six Gun Sally they're kind
of part rock, part country. They're local, but they're kind
of going national too.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, they're we're gonna do some of my songs. We're
gonna do Hot Legs and Superstition and two other songs.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm gonna do a bit of a drum solo.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
And you know, like I said, I met them, we
did a gig together. I thought they were really really good.
I really liked the female singer Amy, she was awesome.
And they're, like, you know, really good musicians. And like
you said, they're local, but they're making some noise on
the country charts. They got a lot of couple of
million streams on Spotify, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So I'm glad to help them.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
It's like to be fun. I like to do stuff
like that. I've done that stuff ult in my life,
I did. I remember I did a on show like
that with Molly Hatchett one time, you know, and a
couple other bands like that. So for me, it's a
lot of fun is I get to play with different
musicians and get to do something out of the ordinary for.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Me, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So this will be my last gig of the year,
and then we start up again next year with The
Rod Show. On actually Rod's birthday, we're playing in Florida.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
You know. And yeah, so I'm just having a good time.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
As I'm getting older, you know that I'm I don't
have to be on tour tours anymore, you know, I don't.
I really liked on our tour tours.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't like. I'd rather play in a theater than
an arena.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I just played with Robbie Kreeger in La at the
three theaters like six eight thousand people.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I play the shirts.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I like playing a theater with a thousand people better
because you can really see everybody, you know, really can
really connect.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's going to be at the Lamp Theater, a venue
that is and uh and like like you mentioned, you're
you're seventy eight, which is amazing because playing the drums
is so physically demanding, Carmine, especially the way you play.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Them, and what out of doubt.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Right right now, I'm sitting with a with a bit
of a back ache, just worked out, you know. But uh,
you know, it's just uh, just what I do. You know,
I live in Florida. People said you played golf. I said, no,
I played drums.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Carmen.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You mentioned that you were the first to play the
way you play, which I I wholeheartedly agree. And I
got to go back to Vanilla Fudge the beginning of
your career. You guys practically invented psychedelic rock, and by extension,
I think invented heavy metal.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I I know that's what they say, but we did
in a way because we were really heavy.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I mean, you were really you know.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
The the sound was fat, you know, but we had dynamics,
you know, some big sat heavy sounds here, a sweet,
beautiful sound.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You know. Vanella Fudge is unique.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And we've still got three out of four guys and
we're still doing gigs, which is amazing, you know. And uh,
you know, I've been lucky. I got to play all
different kinds of music, you know. I get to play
the Nellphis and my good Cactus. We have an album
coming out in March. It has all these different people
on it, now De Schneider and Ted Nugan and Billy
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Sheen and this one and that one. And we're going
to do a gig I believe in uh in the
Midwest for Tunnel to Towers, you know, the charity, right,
and we're gonna make it a big deal and We're
gonna release our album at the same time and go
out and play with like four or five shows as
the Cactus All Stars, with different people like Billy Sheen,
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Bubble Foot, Pat Travers, Eric Gales, just a whole bunch
of different people. And then the big gig will be
the one with all the big guys, and that's the
one that will go to tower Tunnel to Towers. You know,
I'm looking forward to it because you know, Number one,
I love Cactus.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We're playing blues. We did pick Tack a song and
we did the wrestling about blues. Really did. Some songs
were all kinds of people.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
We got from bunch of Roses, we got Dunne, some
Kings actually got Rudy Fonzo, got.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Pacy Guns, all kinds.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Of people and we did one last year and it
broke into Blue charts at number three on Billboards.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I said, wow, I.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Haven't been on the charts in nineteen eighty nine, you know.
But I'm having a good time to have a studio
in my house, so you know, I start things over here.
We just we just produced the King Kobra song for
Cleo Patrick Rocords.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
They're doing an album called Hair supply.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Everybody does an air supply song, but they're an eighties band, right,
so the hair supply is the name.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Of the album. So they gave us a song to do.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
We just did a killer rendition of the song called
changes Chances Chances, and we put an orchestra on. It's
really good. And I started off in my studio. I
got my drums, say, I never moved the drums stay here.
We walked through the garage into the guest house in
my studio. Right.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So I'm having a good time.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Carmie. It's a cliche question, but what do you consider
your best work?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
If you had to pick an album, a song or
two to define Carmine a piece, what would it be.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's so hard, everything's so different.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I mean. I did an album in the nineties called
Guitar Zeus unless you ever heard of it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I had major guitar players on it. I had Brian
May and Slash and.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Vey and Ted nu Journal and uh just look it
up on the doule and some of my best workers.
I wrote it with my buddy Kelly. We wrote it,
produced it, went out on the road with it, gett
it worldwide, deals in Japan and the Kaitars Japan, Katarz's Korea,
you know, and then Blue Murder was great.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I mean, I can't really can it down.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Carmine, Thank you so much for doing this. It's a
big deal for me.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I've always enjoyed your work and I finally know for
sure now how to pronounce your name directly from you.
So Carmine a piece again. Thanks and we'll see you
on the twenty ninth.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Okay, are you gonna be there?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I will do good.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'll talk to you more about the Cactus record.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Can't wait to see if that's car minor piece. And
like I said, he's appearing with six Guns Sally at
the Lamp Theater on Saturday the twenty ninth, And I
mean what he's the Governor drummer. Just incredible and I
probably just fonnd over him too much. Did the hero talk.
But that's how I feel about great musicians from that era,
of which he decidedly is one. We got Ryan Grays
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talking the Penguins defenseman. He'll join us at the bottom
of the hour. Up next, we're supposed to do calls
on the fifteens. Maybe that's a dead idea, but you
can call now. Eight three to three four one two
w xdx, eight three to three four one two w
xdx Tomorrow nights stun Trophy White Owes Monday to I
can't even quote the big O'boski wrightbe.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I don't know if you could tell, but I was
nervous for that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's a big deal for me to talk to little
rock guy like Carmine Apiece.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Now I know how to pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And everybody's gone back and forth forever because of his
brother too. Benny A piece played with THEO and Black Sabbath,
but and I thought he was mad at first. Maybe
he was, but he mellowed out. But for the record,
Carmine a piece. I can't believe I mangled Carmen and
I knew it was Carmen. I'm just, like I said, nervous.
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We got Ryan Graves of the Penguins on at the
bottom of the eye. Right now, we're taking calls on
the fifteen, so there's still time to dial in a
three three four one two wxdx.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Let's go to Jerry in Murraysville.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Jerry, you're on with double M Mark.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I always wondered why a salary tap has to come
with a salary floor. It doesn't strike is something that
there's a law that no law.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But it totally makes sense.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, if you didn't have a floor, the players could
get really screwed because you're limiting the earnings on the top,
but but not saying how little they can be paid.
I mean, seriously, Brov, I mean do math? I mean
did you did you pass arithmetic?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:21):
I mean the The one thing I thought was that
that was what you would have to do to get
to get a player's contract signed. You know, a union contract.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
No, you got dude, it's mathematics. If you have a cap,
you have to have a floor. The players get totally
screwed with the cap, but not a floor, totally screwed.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Oh no, I understand that. But what could they do
other than in the in the not.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Play, not play, not sign the CBA?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Goodbye, dummy. Let's go to Jimmy and West toast. I mean,
my god, Jimmy, you're on with Mark?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Hey, save it's one six six? How are you on today? Hey?
Speaker 6 (13:58):
So I'm going to get soon And I don't know
do you call ahead to book the reservations at the buffets?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
And like the Golden Steer and why I don't generally.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Go to buffets, brav.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I mean, I'm even even before this diet, which is
working so well away on eighty, I kind of ditch
the buffets, although I do have a weakness locally for
the Eaton Park brunch and breakfast buffet. But I just
do all protein bacon and eggs and sausage. But but yeah,
I mean, Golden Steer, you got to call ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
The buffets not so much.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And he with the buffets, the only buffet really well
that I know of, still worth going to a Caesar's palace.
Most of them have shut down, and all you do
there is pay extra to jump to the front of
the line. Thank you for the call. Yeah, the geno thing,
We're gonna talk about that again more later today and
tomorrow as well. But you know him saying he doesn't
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want to play for any team but Pittsburgh, not Florida,
not Colorado. We all thought he'd go to Florida because
he has a home there that puts the pen wasn't
a bad spot. You gotta move on from him. You
gotta turn the page at some point, and you're gonna
the most important You're gonna block ben kindall from being
the number two center.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You can't make in with checking center what I would do,
and SI don't want Gino to come back, no question.
If Gino wants to, I'd say the said, Okay, Gino
can come back. He's on your wing, and that way
we don't block kindle. You want to do nostalgia, you
carry the burden, but don't tell me you want Geno back,
but you don't want to play with them seriously, and
I respect those three guys, you know, as this group
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that did so much here and won so much, but
you gotta turn the page.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Up.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Next, defenseman Ryan Graves joins us it's the best hockey
talking Ton and it's here on one oh five nine
the X. It's the Woody Show weekday morning six to ten.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Twenty driver and I just love good VXE.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
The Penguins get back in action tomorrow night at home
against Minnesota. Joining me now from the Penguins, it's defenseman
Ryan Graves. Ryan, thanks for taking the time. What was
the trip to Sweden like besides the hockey? What were
some of the highlights?
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Yeah, thanks for having me. Fantastic trip. What a beautiful city.
I had never been to Stockholm or Sweden before. I've
been to Finland for the World Cup. We've team Canada
a few years ago and really enjoyed it. Stockholm was
like even a stuff above that. The city was beautiful,
the food was great, people were so nice, the city
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was really clean. I think everyone really enjoyed themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Now, you guys weren't very good on Friday in that
overtime loss, but then a lot better on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What triggered such a turnaround?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Ryan?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It felt almost like a reset.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I mean, I think a game like Friday can trigger
a good game like Sunday. I think we were really
upset with how we played on Friday, especially with the
magnitude of you spent all the time and the effort
to try all over there, and I know those tickets
were expensive and fans travel and things like that, and
you kind of not that the game was that bad.
I know, like we went to overtime and things like that,
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but we weren't happy with how we played. So I
think that that just stung a little bit, and I
think that we really took that as a chance to
reset and put in a really good effort on Sunday,
which you're happy with.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You started the season in Wilkes.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Not a great experience for an NHL veteran, But what
good did you take away from that experience?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Yeah, I mean a lot. I think obviously that's a
tough day when you first kind of get that call
that that's kind of happened. You're gonna go on waivers.
It's to be honest, it's a hard day. But you
have a kind of a choice at that time if
you want to astall can go down there and complain
and and really just kind of give in, and you'll
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probably end up being there for the remainder of your contract,
where you can take it as an opportunity to kind
of reflect and also chance to work at your game,
and that's kind of your way out of that situation.
So I took it as that and really took it
as an opportunity to play a lot of minutes playing
situations that I don't play in the NHL and just
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and kind of try to improve my game and in
a sense find the game that I've had previous in
previous seasons that has brought me success and has allowed
me to play a lot of games in this league. So,
like I said, you can kind of take it one
of two ways. And I think having high end there
as well was kind of the same attitude of We're
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going to take this on in the best way possible
and put that put all the effort in to try
to improve and to try to get back to the NHL.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, clearly it did you some good because you're playing
real well since returning. What do you feel like you're
doing better or different? You talk about your game changing
and improving. Can you put your finger on what.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
I appreciate that. I don't think it's one in particular thing.
I think that I've gained a little bit of confidence
with my time there, just the way that I was
able to play and kind of just playing a lot
and working to situations and things like that, and trying
to take that game that where I had success down
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there and trying to translate it to the role that.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I'll play in the NHL. So I think it's just.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
An accumulation of small things and a little bit more
confidence and just trying to attack the game that you're
not You're not trying to to play.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Not to lose.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You're kind of trying to attack the moment and take
advantage of it and almost like it's a second opportunity
to just show what I can do.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm sure you saw that not too long ago.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Eric Carlson talked about Mike Sullivan asking players to do
what they couldn't do. I don't want knock Selly here,
but did that perhaps apply to you? And does what
Dan Newes wants perhaps provide a better fit?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah, I saw Carl's comments. I think it's I think
that there's been some things with views that have really
helped a lot of guys. I think that there's been
an atmosphere change that is really noticeable in the room.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I don't know if fans can.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
See that or if you can see that as media
kind of around the group, but I think that the
culture of how our group is this year is really upbeat,
a lot of energy, guys are having fun. Obviously we're winning,
so that helps that. But I don't know, to be honest,
I think that's just like the whole situation of what
I've gone through this year is really transformed how I'm
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thinking about the game and how I'm attacking.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It and how I want to play.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So I don't know, it's I would never speak badly
about a former player, coach. I think that everyone who's
in this league deserves to be in this league for
a reason. And I think that there's been a lot
of positives under muse.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Let's stay with something you touched on there a bit.
It seems like the team's got younger and the kids
that provide a different energy.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's just the
kids there, this isn't an energy around the group. I
think that even our older guys bring a lot of energy.
Like Sid loves the game, he's not He's not someone
that is I guess your typical veteran that's kind of
in and out. He's on the ice more than anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
He loves the game.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Carl has one of those personalities that he's super bubbly.
He's kind of like a big kid himself. So it's
kind of the whole energy is has been.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
A lot better.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
And I think that obviously there's some joking around with
the young guys and that brings some new some new
blood into the room and things look that.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I think it's a combination of everything.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
One tangible thing Ryan is it's a bigger team. You
got that jumbo line with Gino now Kevin Hayes is
back in the lineup. Talk about that size and how
you guys are using that.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah, I mean it's having side such an advantage that
I think that there's if there's guys like Gino and
braz and Hate that are big guys that and Maranta
that can play and play with the pocket as well.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's not you don't just need size.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
That's a big guy that I can't really play like you.
These guys all have skill as well, obviously Geno, but
I think the rest of them are not as noticed
obviously as Gino. And these guys can really play. It's
hard to defend, especially for defense that are a little
bit smaller.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
We've got some size in the back end as well.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I know that the size that I that I have
is really taken. It's been a big part of the
success that I've had, So I think it's huge. And
if you have big guys that can play with the
fucking can skate, it's it's an advantage.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, talk about you and your size because maybe it's
just me, but it seems you're a bit more physical
than you were last year with the Penguins.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Is that is that conscious on your partner just kind
of organic.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
I think organic. I think that there's things that play
into that. I'm trying to play with tight gaps and
in and shut down.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Plays early and really moving my feet.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
And I said this a few times of like kind
of attacking the games as opposed to when the game
come to me. And I think when you're in that
mindset or in that situation, that situations presents themselves more
to be physical. So I think it's always been something
that I've felt as importance of my game, but definitely
this year I've been able to utilize it more.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Now after nineteen games, the team's off to a good start,
like in a playoff spot.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I mean it's early, but not that early.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
If a team's in a playoff spot at Thanksgiving they
make it over seventy five percent of the time. What
has made this team, you know, do better? You talked
about some of that and can they keep it up?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I think we can.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I think that there's a lot of things that play
into it. Like I said, there's an energy around the
group that that's fun.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
And you obviously have.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Guys in a friend of another teams he talks about
after games, and you get a lot of comments like
you guys are hard to play against, so.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
You guys are fast things.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
I think there's the way we play has brought up success,
and I think that the continue. I don't think it's
a fluke. It's not like we're getting out shot and
we're winning games or or I mean, our goalies have
been great, but they're not It's not like they're stealing
us every game and we're not deserving to win. I
think that through almost twenty games, it's it's gone a fluke.
So I definitely think that it's something that we have
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the goal of being in the playoffs, definitely, and when
you have guys like our veteran guys that are top
players in this league, it's I know they have the
same goal and I think that it's realistic.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
How's the goaltending U We saw morishef get his first
NHL shutout on Sunday, Jari's coming back from injury.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's a fairly deep group.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Yeah, it's it's been great to see. I love seeing
Jars do well. I think he's kind of had a
similar situation to me. I mean he had to go
to Wilkes for a bit last year and he was
great when he came back.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
In the last season. He's rolled it over and started
this year.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
And I have not opportunity to play with already that much,
but I mean he's been great the few games that
I've been with him. I've had the pleasure of playing
with Miershov and Wilkes. This guy's unbelievable as well as
work ethics crazy, He's super talented. I think it's just
kind of a typically iceberg for him. So yeah, I
love to see these guys do well, and it's been
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a huge part of our success.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Finally, Ryan, Uh, you got back here? How do you
stay here?
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I think a lot of the same. I'm just taking
it day by day. I think that I've put in
a lot of work with my time in Wilkes and
like I said, kind of the mindset and really trying
to work at it and to improve and to kind
of build something. And I'm just trying to transition it
into what will bring me success again in NHL. And
like I said, day by day, trying to piece together
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good games and too to gain confidence and the gain
trust of the staff, things like that. I think it's
not one major thing, but accumulation of small things.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I am trying to focus on Ryan.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Great stuff. It's good to see you back. We'll see
at the game tomorrow night. Thanks again, I appreciate having me.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's Ryan Grays and he's doing a lot better, doing
a lot better. And he didn't address the Carlson quote
about Sullivan directly.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Actually, I think he did earlier.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Today in an interview he did with Jason mackew the Post Gazette.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
So maybe you want to check that out.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But that's for sure true, Okay, I mean Sally, And
I don't want to make it seem like I'm ripping
Selly because he won two Stanley Cups for the team
I've supported since I was a boy. But he was
coaching last year like it was still the same team
as sixteen and seventeen, and especially with the defenseman like
one size fit all. Like Barkowski said earlier in the program,
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those teams back then you had Schultzen Daily and Latang
and all the even Doomlin, who was at the bottom
end of the skill and speed stuff, he had amplements.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Of both things. So you could play.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That way with every defenseman activity and every defenseman pinching.
But you know, is time war on the Penguins developed
a roster that cultn'ts and I think Muse now is
being more sensible, and I think one of the beneficiaries
of that was just on our show.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
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one size fits all. You can't pretend it's twenty seventeen
when it's twenty twenty five. And Ryan Graves is definitely
prospered by the coaching switch. And that's just not me
saying that on behalf of a fringe player, and the
fringe player himself didn't say that directly.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
This last segment. Eric Carlson said.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
It something that didn't affect him, but talked about the
effect on other players like Graves and on much of
the group. It was just time for change. That's the
best way to put it. Let's go to Eric and Toledo.
Eric Askmark anything.
Speaker 9 (30:47):
Hey, super genious. Hey, and yesterday's showed you had mentioned
that when you were working with Karl Malone back in
your WCW days that he was kind of a pain.
Could you elaborate on that a little bit? Was he
like very difficult or full of himself?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
What did you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah? Full of him?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Just a dink.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Never let you forget he was Karl Malone. Dennis Raeman
could be one of the guys. Karl Malone, he wanted
to be one of the stars. And there's a difference.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Oh all right, thanks super Gina, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Let's go to Dave in the Rocks. Dave, what up?
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Listen to any yacht rock during your times with a
Connyeat Lake and episode? Do you like Christopher Cross or
do you have any preference?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
No, I'd like to beat Christopher Cross with a mackerel
until he's unconscious.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
And then your thoughts on that, I.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Do not like yacht rock proceed? What else?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
You got?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Fair enough?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Fair enough?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
How?
Speaker 10 (31:40):
How how could you not re up Malcolm with how
he's played and we haven't dealt him like we should
have an eighteen?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Okay, what do you do with Ben Kendall?
Speaker 10 (31:50):
Well, you won't want him playing wing obviously you would
want him on it. I mean he's on a pad
line stander, like you said, yep.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
So what do you do with Ben Kindle if you
keep Gino playing with sid You just said he's not
a wake to play.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You just said he's not a wing.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
Well, if you wouldn't make him a third line center,
you would have to put them on.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You do not retard the progress of your best forward
prospect for the sake of an old guy. You just don't.
I mean, what don't you get? What don't any of
you get? It's time to turn the goddamn page at
long last?
Speaker 10 (32:23):
Fair enough. I wouldn't see him in a Florida Jersey anywhere.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
He won't sign anywhere.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's just he says that, he says that he's he's
playing the game in terms of getting a new deal here,
and he's playing it pretty well.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Let's go to Joe. Joe, ask Mark anything.
Speaker 11 (32:39):
What I love what you've been talking about with the Tens.
But I want to get to that tomorrow. I'm one
of those people that have been anticipating a seven loss
or an eight and nine loss for the season for
the Steelers. What two games you think are guaranteed wins,
(33:01):
because if we only win two, that's it's gonna be
a seven and ten season.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Well, they're gonna be Cleveland unless Shador figures it out
by then, which he won't.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
By the way, I'm gonna talk about this tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I think it's unfair that Kevin Stefanski, a two time
NFL Coach of the Year, a great coach, a better
coach than Tom Win, and trade Tom Win for him
in a second, is being criticized and judged by how
he's handling a fifth round pick just because his last
name Sanders and he's Dion's kid. That's grotesquely unfair. But
in terms of guaranteed wins, I don't know. I don't
know how many guaranteed wins there are with this team period.
(33:34):
I'm not sure there's many guaranteed losses. I was gonna
say they're going to go to Detroit and get killed,
but Detroit's got and beat at home a couple times
in the last month of memory serves.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
So at this point, the whole Seaton, the rest of
the season is up in hand. It could be a
seven and ten, eight and nine, it could be whatever
everyone else is helping.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think I think eight to nine is more likely
than than ten and seven.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I think not and eights where it's going to land, though.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think nine to eight because you know, coach T's
never had a losing season.
Speaker 12 (34:06):
Let's go to a talkback, Hey, Mark, I just want
your thoughts on how you think the playoff race as
the NHL season continues to play out occurs, especially in
the Eastern Conference. Considering that every team except for Buffalo
is at five hundred or above right now, Obviously some
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teams are going to start to pull away and some
may trend down.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I mean, we're already seeing that with the Maple Leafs.
Speaker 12 (34:31):
But I'm curious your thoughts at the quarter away point
of the season.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Thank you well.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
First off, they're not all over five hundred. That is
mathematically impossible. You're cunning overtime losses as non event. You're
just comparing wins to regulation losses, overtime losses or losses too.
The way to make the playoffs is to go above
true five hundred, which is to have more wins than
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losses total losses. At least that's my experience. But I
think the Eastern Conference is bad. I think the Metro
Division is worse. At the beginning of the season, I
would have said the Penguins had no chance to make
the playoffs. In fact, I didn't say that, But now
I think they could finish as high as second in
the Metro. I think the only thing beyond them team
beyond them rather is Carolina.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
The Devils would use out.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I mean, they're better in the Penguins, but how much
ground will they lose and can they make it up
once Hughes gets back? So yeah, I think right now
the Penguins are a pretty good bet to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Far from the lock, but a decent bet. But we're
only nineteen games in.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
But if you get the Thanksgiving and you're in a
playoff spot, you make it seventy seven point five percent
of the time. Hey, if all the Tomlin Knights could
say never had a losing season, I can crow about
where the Penguins are at at Thanksgiving, which, let's not forget,
is a week away and they figure to be in
a playoff spot.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Let's go to Jude.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Hey, Jude, it doesn't matter, what do you want?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Mark?
Speaker 8 (36:02):
I find myself going back and forth on this Sunday's
game similar to you. But the Bears do have a
top five offense, and I actually did know this. They
leave the league in turnover margin by a pretty substantial margin.
And you know, when the Steelers lose the turnover battle,
they pretty much never win.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, but that basing your fortunes on takeaways is dicey
because you can't force them, like I was talking about
with Jerry Dulac before. But the Bears, I mean, their
offense worries me more than the takeaway thing. The Steelers
get takeaways as well, but their offense has power.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
They could man handle the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
They could man handle the Steelers on both sides of
the ball except for Mount Washington and the safeties.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
But yeah, I think the game's totally up for grabs.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I if you made me pick right the second I
picked the Bears in a close one.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
What about you?
Speaker 8 (36:51):
I you know, I kind of am hoping for that, honestly,
because if they lose this, there's a real chance they
lose you know, the next three, and.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Then they're really digging out a hole.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
And to be honest with you, I'm just kind of
hoping for a losing season at this point.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Well, for a losing season could be the best thing
that happens for the organization, not because it sticks it
up Coach T's backside, but because once the bloom is
off that rose, maybe you can look at your team
a little more realistically in terms of trying to build
to a legitimate contender, not just finishing about five hundred.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That said, they won't do that.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
All the Steelers I've ever cared about is the next game,
and it has been to their detriments. It sounds like
the right thing to do. It is not let's go
to Robin South Fayette.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Rob. What's up?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Mark? Are you doing great?
Speaker 6 (37:39):
My question is, when everyone's healthy, if I want you
to have a surplus and goalies, what will they do
with that? And what should they do with that?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I think what they will do and should do probably coincide.
Even though he's probably the best goal in the system,
I would send more shot down and stick with the plan,
which was to let him dominate the AHL and be
that much more red when he gets to Pittsburgh for keeps.
That said, if Jari or Shiloff's got hurt and Morshoff
came up and you know, played out the season, at
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some point, whether the injury is severe whatever, I would
have a problem with that. I think he is ready,
but how ready and ready to be? What a good
goalie or a dominant goalie. I will not have a
problem if they stick with their plan. Let's go to
a talkback.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Mark this is wrong from Cranberry. I know this. You're
always good with kids is.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
When they call right though, And I was wondering, do
you think you'd ever be interested in rearing children of
your own?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
And think it's a little late for that.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I'm sixty four, But my big regret in life, seriously
is I don't have kids for sure. But part of
that's because I want someone to take care of me
like I did my mother and my grandmother. Doesn't seem
fair that I won't after what I did for them.
Not that I regret it. I shouldn't have said it.
That's noted bad, but you know what I mean. Let's
go to one more talkback.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Mark Matt for mccannal was here. I know you're a
huge fan of music.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Have you ever tried yourself to play a musical instrument?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I took some keyboard lessons to the kid. That was
an utter disaster. We had a piano in the living room.
Later on, just an organ in the living room. I
did not take to it. Tried, took a couple lessons,
just did not take to it. Wish I had. There's
a bunch of regrets. I just said.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
The one regret I have is that I didn't have kids.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I have a bunch of regrets so many you can't
mention them. The only thing I'm happy with in my
life is professional like I wish I had played a
musical instrument. I wish I had played a team sport
in high school. I think that's a great experience that
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My guest right now is one of rock and Roll's
all time greatest drummers. He's appearing at Irwin's Lamp Theater
with six Guns Sally on Saturday the twenty ninth. He's
played with Vanilla Fudge, Rod Stewart, Ozzie, Jeff Beck. The
list goes on and on. It's a pleasure to talk
to Carmen Apaci or or maybe it's a piece Carmen. I.
I've gone back and forth since I was a kid
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on how to pronounce your name.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Straighten it out.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Carma Carmi Italian named Carmen, not Carmon.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, I thought I got that almost right, But what
about the last name?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
A piece?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Okay, I'm I'm out for two and I apologize much
respect for you.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
But problem, I can't believe I'm still going through that.
My brother, my brother confused everybody when I was at
Rock Carmen.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
A piece, brother.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, and your Wikipedia says that, but gee, not that
that's the definitive source.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, yeah, God knowsers put that in there. I didn't
even look at that stuff. Well, nice to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, nice to talk to you in a real, real pleasure.
And I don't know where to start with your career.
But let's go basic. What makes you different from other
great drummers? Because the styles can differ so much, can't they.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I always say I'm the original. I think that's fair
pretty much pretty much it.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You know, when I came on to seeing people were
playing drums lightly, I came on and beat the hell
out of the drums. I was a beast as a
monsoon when I was a kid. And you know, they
got me in the led Zeppelin movie playing on the
s Sullivan Show for a second, And you know.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's what I created.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I created power drumming, you know, heavy power drumming and
everything you know from double bass drums. And I wrote
drum books and the clinics, and I taught people. So
a lot of the stuff that's going on today came
from what I sawted back fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know, no, I'll buy all of that for sure.
And I want to talk about some of the guys
you played with. You played with Jeff Beck, an all
time great on the guitar.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What was that like? How was that partnership?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Well, back in those days, Jeff beck wasn't a big
solo water so we were equal.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Bill was Beck pogetting the piece. So we were just
as big as Jeff and it was it was a
lot of fun. But he was you know, he had
his video Christ secrecies.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
You know, like one day we were we were in
Europe and now you're actual.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We were in Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
We got off to breakfast and there were times of
sound checks and to me, I said.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, Jeff went home. He went home, you know. So
Jeff was known for crazy stuff like that, but he
was a good guy. I loved Jeff. We had some
great times together. We did.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Last year we released a Beck Poge in the Piece
live box set, you know, which came out really well.
And uh, we have some new stuff on their horizon
that we're looking at releasing.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And you know, I love Jeff. He was like a brother,
you know.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Now you had a great one with Rod's Stewart didn't
And don't you still playing kind of a Rod Stewart
tribute band with other guys he used to play with Rod.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, well, I don't call it a tribute band because
I'm in it.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, No, it's your band, just with a different singer.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
It's a show. It's a show. It's a show.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
It's called we're changing the name to Rod the show,
and I tell stories about how songs.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Happen, how this happened, how that happened, and.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Uh, we're developing it more into a show with like
an inshow that's going to have a historical history about
Rod and building up to me playing with Rod and
Catcher as a sax Payer play with you too, and
it's a great show to a tremendous show.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Everywhere we go people love it.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
That's how I met Dave, who's band I'm playing with
Sixpence Sally. He that we did a show together and
so he loved us. He just came to see us
in September. He said, man, the show changed so much.
Is really a show now? And I took it. You know,
people called it a tribute. I didn't like it because
you know, attributed some day that they are tributing somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But I was in.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
It was I recorded, I wrote, I played on the road.
We have the sentences of the band. I sold millions
of albums with Rod, So it wasn't really a tribute
to me.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It was my life. It was my band, so in
that anyway, So they.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Had no in that Vandcarmine I mean, you co wrote
Rod's biggest tid ever. Do you think I'm sexy? Kind
of a disco song? How did that song come about?
That was an amazing leap for Rod and it was
just such a perfectly constructed song.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Well, it started with he was stated the band, I
want a song like Missing You by the Rollly Songs.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So everybody went home and did it. And I went
home and did it.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And I went to my friend Dwayne Ditching's house, he
was another co writer, and we put it together on
his little studio and we wrote the bridge and everything.
Rod loved it, and that was it, you know, and
then we produced. Tom Daut produced it. You know, before
he put all the strings and everything on. We had
three guitar, bass, drums, and keyboard man. They sounded powerful
and things sound like disco. But then he did all
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this other stuff on it. Who could argue when we
went to number one in fifteen countries, you know?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So now I can't argue.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That A week from Saturday, your guesting with six Guns
Sally at the Lamp Theater in Erwin. What will you
be doing at that show? Six Gun Sally they're kind
of part rock, part country. They're local, but they're kind
of going national too.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, they're we're gonna do some of my songs. We're
gonna do Hot Legs and Superstition and two other songs.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm gonna do a bit of a drum solo.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
And you know, like I said, I met them, we
did a gig together. I thought they were really really good.
I really liked the female singer Amy, she was awesome.
And they're, like, you know, really good musicians. And like
you said, they're local, but they're making some noise on
the country charts. They got a lot of couple of
million streams on Spotify, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So I'm glad to help them.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
It's like to be fun. I like to do stuff
like that. I've done that stuff ult in my life,
I did. I remember I did a on show like
that with Molly Hatchett one time, you know, and a
couple other bands like that. So for me, it's a
lot of fun is I get to play with different
musicians and get to do something out of the ordinary for.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Me, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So this will be my last gig of the year,
and then we start up again next year with The
Rod Show. On actually Rod's birthday, we're playing in Florida.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
You know. And yeah, so I'm just having a good time.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
As I'm getting older, you know that I'm I don't
have to be on tour tours anymore, you know, I don't.
I really liked on our tour tours.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't like. I'd rather play in a theater than
an arena.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I just played with Robbie Kreeger in La at the
three theaters like six eight thousand people.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I play the shirts.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I like playing a theater with a thousand people better
because you can really see everybody, you know, really can
really connect.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's going to be at the Lamp Theater, a venue
that is and uh and like like you mentioned, you're
you're seventy eight, which is amazing because playing the drums
is so physically demanding, Carmine, especially the way you play.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Them, and what out of doubt.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Right right now, I'm sitting with a with a bit
of a back ache, just worked out, you know. But uh,
you know, it's just uh, just what I do. You know,
I live in Florida. People said you played golf. I said, no,
I played drums.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Carmen.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You mentioned that you were the first to play the
way you play, which I I wholeheartedly agree. And I
got to go back to Vanilla Fudge the beginning of
your career. You guys practically invented psychedelic rock, and by extension,
I think invented heavy metal.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I I know that's what they say, but we did
in a way because we were really heavy.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I mean, you were really you know.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
The the sound was fat, you know, but we had dynamics,
you know, some big sat heavy sounds here, a sweet,
beautiful sound.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You know. Vanella Fudge is unique.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And we've still got three out of four guys and
we're still doing gigs, which is amazing, you know. And uh,
you know, I've been lucky. I got to play all
different kinds of music, you know. I get to play
the Nellphis and my good Cactus. We have an album
coming out in March. It has all these different people
on it, now De Schneider and Ted Nugan and Billy
(08:21):
Sheen and this one and that one. And we're going
to do a gig I believe in uh in the
Midwest for Tunnel to Towers, you know, the charity, right,
and we're gonna make it a big deal and We're
gonna release our album at the same time and go
out and play with like four or five shows as
the Cactus All Stars, with different people like Billy Sheen,
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Bubble Foot, Pat Travers, Eric Gales, just a whole bunch
of different people. And then the big gig will be
the one with all the big guys, and that's the
one that will go to tower Tunnel to Towers. You know,
I'm looking forward to it because you know, Number one,
I love Cactus.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We're playing blues. We did pick Tack a song and
we did the wrestling about blues. Really did. Some songs
were all kinds of people.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
We got from bunch of Roses, we got Dunne, some
Kings actually got Rudy Fonzo, got.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Pacy Guns, all kinds.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Of people and we did one last year and it
broke into Blue charts at number three on Billboards.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I said, wow, I.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Haven't been on the charts in nineteen eighty nine, you know.
But I'm having a good time to have a studio
in my house, so you know, I start things over here.
We just we just produced the King Kobra song for
Cleo Patrick Rocords.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
They're doing an album called Hair supply.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Everybody does an air supply song, but they're an eighties band, right,
so the hair supply is the name.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Of the album. So they gave us a song to do.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
We just did a killer rendition of the song called
changes Chances Chances, and we put an orchestra on. It's
really good. And I started off in my studio. I
got my drums, say, I never moved the drums stay here.
We walked through the garage into the guest house in
my studio. Right.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So I'm having a good time.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Carmie. It's a cliche question, but what do you consider
your best work?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
If you had to pick an album, a song or
two to define Carmine a piece, what would it be.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's so hard, everything's so different.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I mean. I did an album in the nineties called
Guitar Zeus unless you ever heard of it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I had major guitar players on it. I had Brian
May and Slash and.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Vey and Ted nu Journal and uh just look it
up on the doule and some of my best workers.
I wrote it with my buddy Kelly. We wrote it,
produced it, went out on the road with it, gett
it worldwide, deals in Japan and the Kaitars Japan, Katarz's Korea,
you know, and then Blue Murder was great.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I mean, I can't really can it down.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Carmine, Thank you so much for doing this. It's a
big deal for me.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I've always enjoyed your work and I finally know for
sure now how to pronounce your name directly from you.
So Carmine a piece again. Thanks and we'll see you
on the twenty ninth.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Okay, are you gonna be there?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I will do good.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'll talk to you more about the Cactus record.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Can't wait to see if that's car minor piece. And
like I said, he's appearing with six Guns Sally at
the Lamp Theater on Saturday the twenty ninth, And I
mean what he's the Governor drummer. Just incredible and I
probably just fonnd over him too much. Did the hero talk.
But that's how I feel about great musicians from that era,
of which he decidedly is one. We got Ryan Grays
(11:39):
talking the Penguins defenseman. He'll join us at the bottom
of the hour. Up next, we're supposed to do calls
on the fifteens. Maybe that's a dead idea, but you
can call now. Eight three to three four one two
w xdx, eight three to three four one two w
xdx Tomorrow nights stun Trophy White Owes Monday to I
can't even quote the big O'boski wrightbe.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I don't know if you could tell, but I was
nervous for that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's a big deal for me to talk to little
rock guy like Carmine Apiece.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Now I know how to pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And everybody's gone back and forth forever because of his
brother too. Benny A piece played with THEO and Black Sabbath,
but and I thought he was mad at first. Maybe
he was, but he mellowed out. But for the record,
Carmine a piece. I can't believe I mangled Carmen and
I knew it was Carmen. I'm just, like I said, nervous.
(12:36):
We got Ryan Graves of the Penguins on at the
bottom of the eye. Right now, we're taking calls on
the fifteen, so there's still time to dial in a
three three four one two wxdx.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Let's go to Jerry in Murraysville.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Jerry, you're on with double M Mark.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I always wondered why a salary tap has to come
with a salary floor. It doesn't strike is something that
there's a law that no law.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But it totally makes sense.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, if you didn't have a floor, the players could
get really screwed because you're limiting the earnings on the top,
but but not saying how little they can be paid.
I mean, seriously, Brov, I mean do math? I mean
did you did you pass arithmetic?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:21):
I mean the The one thing I thought was that
that was what you would have to do to get
to get a player's contract signed. You know, a union contract.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
No, you got dude, it's mathematics. If you have a cap,
you have to have a floor. The players get totally
screwed with the cap, but not a floor, totally screwed.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Oh no, I understand that. But what could they do
other than in the in the not.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Play, not play, not sign the CBA?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Goodbye, dummy. Let's go to Jimmy and West toast. I mean,
my god, Jimmy, you're on with Mark?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Hey, save it's one six six? How are you on today? Hey?
Speaker 6 (13:58):
So I'm going to get soon And I don't know
do you call ahead to book the reservations at the buffets?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
And like the Golden Steer and why I don't generally.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Go to buffets, brav.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I mean, I'm even even before this diet, which is
working so well away on eighty, I kind of ditch
the buffets, although I do have a weakness locally for
the Eaton Park brunch and breakfast buffet. But I just
do all protein bacon and eggs and sausage. But but yeah,
I mean, Golden Steer, you got to call ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
The buffets not so much.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And he with the buffets, the only buffet really well
that I know of, still worth going to a Caesar's palace.
Most of them have shut down, and all you do
there is pay extra to jump to the front of
the line. Thank you for the call. Yeah, the geno thing,
We're gonna talk about that again more later today and
tomorrow as well. But you know him saying he doesn't
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want to play for any team but Pittsburgh, not Florida,
not Colorado. We all thought he'd go to Florida because
he has a home there that puts the pen wasn't
a bad spot. You gotta move on from him. You
gotta turn the page at some point, and you're gonna
the most important You're gonna block ben kindall from being
the number two center.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You can't make in with checking center what I would do,
and SI don't want Gino to come back, no question.
If Gino wants to, I'd say the said, Okay, Gino
can come back. He's on your wing, and that way
we don't block kindle. You want to do nostalgia, you
carry the burden, but don't tell me you want Geno back,
but you don't want to play with them seriously, and
I respect those three guys, you know, as this group
(15:36):
that did so much here and won so much, but
you gotta turn the page.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Up.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Next, defenseman Ryan Graves joins us it's the best hockey
talking Ton and it's here on one oh five nine
the X. It's the Woody Show weekday morning six to ten.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Twenty driver and I just love good VXE.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
The Penguins get back in action tomorrow night at home
against Minnesota. Joining me now from the Penguins, it's defenseman
Ryan Graves. Ryan, thanks for taking the time. What was
the trip to Sweden like besides the hockey? What were
some of the highlights?
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Yeah, thanks for having me. Fantastic trip. What a beautiful city.
I had never been to Stockholm or Sweden before. I've
been to Finland for the World Cup. We've team Canada
a few years ago and really enjoyed it. Stockholm was
like even a stuff above that. The city was beautiful,
the food was great, people were so nice, the city
(16:34):
was really clean. I think everyone really enjoyed themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Now, you guys weren't very good on Friday in that
overtime loss, but then a lot better on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What triggered such a turnaround?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Ryan?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It felt almost like a reset.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I mean, I think a game like Friday can trigger
a good game like Sunday. I think we were really
upset with how we played on Friday, especially with the
magnitude of you spent all the time and the effort
to try all over there, and I know those tickets
were expensive and fans travel and things like that, and
you kind of not that the game was that bad.
I know, like we went to overtime and things like that,
(17:09):
but we weren't happy with how we played. So I
think that that just stung a little bit, and I
think that we really took that as a chance to
reset and put in a really good effort on Sunday,
which you're happy with.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You started the season in Wilkes.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Not a great experience for an NHL veteran, But what
good did you take away from that experience?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Yeah, I mean a lot. I think obviously that's a
tough day when you first kind of get that call
that that's kind of happened. You're gonna go on waivers.
It's to be honest, it's a hard day. But you
have a kind of a choice at that time if
you want to astall can go down there and complain
and and really just kind of give in, and you'll
(17:51):
probably end up being there for the remainder of your contract,
where you can take it as an opportunity to kind
of reflect and also chance to work at your game,
and that's kind of your way out of that situation.
So I took it as that and really took it
as an opportunity to play a lot of minutes playing
situations that I don't play in the NHL and just
(18:13):
and kind of try to improve my game and in
a sense find the game that I've had previous in
previous seasons that has brought me success and has allowed
me to play a lot of games in this league. So,
like I said, you can kind of take it one
of two ways. And I think having high end there
as well was kind of the same attitude of We're
(18:33):
going to take this on in the best way possible
and put that put all the effort in to try
to improve and to try to get back to the NHL.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, clearly it did you some good because you're playing
real well since returning. What do you feel like you're
doing better or different? You talk about your game changing
and improving. Can you put your finger on what.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
I appreciate that. I don't think it's one in particular thing.
I think that I've gained a little bit of confidence
with my time there, just the way that I was
able to play and kind of just playing a lot
and working to situations and things like that, and trying
to take that game that where I had success down
(19:15):
there and trying to translate it to the role that.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I'll play in the NHL. So I think it's just.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
An accumulation of small things and a little bit more
confidence and just trying to attack the game that you're
not You're not trying to to play.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Not to lose.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You're kind of trying to attack the moment and take
advantage of it and almost like it's a second opportunity
to just show what I can do.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm sure you saw that not too long ago.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Eric Carlson talked about Mike Sullivan asking players to do
what they couldn't do. I don't want knock Selly here,
but did that perhaps apply to you? And does what
Dan Newes wants perhaps provide a better fit?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah, I saw Carl's comments. I think it's I think
that there's been some things with views that have really
helped a lot of guys. I think that there's been
an atmosphere change that is really noticeable in the room.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I don't know if fans can.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
See that or if you can see that as media
kind of around the group, but I think that the
culture of how our group is this year is really upbeat,
a lot of energy, guys are having fun. Obviously we're winning,
so that helps that. But I don't know, to be honest,
I think that's just like the whole situation of what
I've gone through this year is really transformed how I'm
(20:34):
thinking about the game and how I'm attacking.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It and how I want to play.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So I don't know, it's I would never speak badly
about a former player, coach. I think that everyone who's
in this league deserves to be in this league for
a reason. And I think that there's been a lot
of positives under muse.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Let's stay with something you touched on there a bit.
It seems like the team's got younger and the kids
that provide a different energy.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's just the
kids there, this isn't an energy around the group. I
think that even our older guys bring a lot of energy.
Like Sid loves the game, he's not He's not someone
that is I guess your typical veteran that's kind of
in and out. He's on the ice more than anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
He loves the game.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Carl has one of those personalities that he's super bubbly.
He's kind of like a big kid himself. So it's
kind of the whole energy is has been.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
A lot better.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
And I think that obviously there's some joking around with
the young guys and that brings some new some new
blood into the room and things look that.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I think it's a combination of everything.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
One tangible thing Ryan is it's a bigger team. You
got that jumbo line with Gino now Kevin Hayes is
back in the lineup. Talk about that size and how
you guys are using that.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah, I mean it's having side such an advantage that
I think that there's if there's guys like Gino and
braz and Hate that are big guys that and Maranta
that can play and play with the pocket as well.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's not you don't just need size.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
That's a big guy that I can't really play like you.
These guys all have skill as well, obviously Geno, but
I think the rest of them are not as noticed
obviously as Gino. And these guys can really play. It's
hard to defend, especially for defense that are a little
bit smaller.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
We've got some size in the back end as well.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I know that the size that I that I have
is really taken. It's been a big part of the
success that I've had, So I think it's huge. And
if you have big guys that can play with the
fucking can skate, it's it's an advantage.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, talk about you and your size because maybe it's
just me, but it seems you're a bit more physical
than you were last year with the Penguins.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Is that is that conscious on your partner just kind
of organic.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
I think organic. I think that there's things that play
into that. I'm trying to play with tight gaps and
in and shut down.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Plays early and really moving my feet.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
And I said this a few times of like kind
of attacking the games as opposed to when the game
come to me. And I think when you're in that
mindset or in that situation, that situations presents themselves more
to be physical. So I think it's always been something
that I've felt as importance of my game, but definitely
this year I've been able to utilize it more.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Now after nineteen games, the team's off to a good start,
like in a playoff spot.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I mean it's early, but not that early.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
If a team's in a playoff spot at Thanksgiving they
make it over seventy five percent of the time. What
has made this team, you know, do better? You talked
about some of that and can they keep it up?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I think we can.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I think that there's a lot of things that play
into it. Like I said, there's an energy around the
group that that's fun.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
And you obviously have.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Guys in a friend of another teams he talks about
after games, and you get a lot of comments like
you guys are hard to play against, so.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
You guys are fast things.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
I think there's the way we play has brought up success,
and I think that the continue. I don't think it's
a fluke. It's not like we're getting out shot and
we're winning games or or I mean, our goalies have
been great, but they're not It's not like they're stealing
us every game and we're not deserving to win. I
think that through almost twenty games, it's it's gone a fluke.
So I definitely think that it's something that we have
(24:23):
the goal of being in the playoffs, definitely, and when
you have guys like our veteran guys that are top
players in this league, it's I know they have the
same goal and I think that it's realistic.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
How's the goaltending U We saw morishef get his first
NHL shutout on Sunday, Jari's coming back from injury.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's a fairly deep group.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Yeah, it's it's been great to see. I love seeing
Jars do well. I think he's kind of had a
similar situation to me. I mean he had to go
to Wilkes for a bit last year and he was
great when he came back.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
In the last season. He's rolled it over and started
this year.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
And I have not opportunity to play with already that much,
but I mean he's been great the few games that
I've been with him. I've had the pleasure of playing
with Miershov and Wilkes. This guy's unbelievable as well as
work ethics crazy, He's super talented. I think it's just
kind of a typically iceberg for him. So yeah, I
love to see these guys do well, and it's been
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a huge part of our success.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Finally, Ryan, Uh, you got back here? How do you
stay here?
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I think a lot of the same. I'm just taking
it day by day. I think that I've put in
a lot of work with my time in Wilkes and
like I said, kind of the mindset and really trying
to work at it and to improve and to kind
of build something. And I'm just trying to transition it
into what will bring me success again in NHL. And
like I said, day by day, trying to piece together
(25:49):
good games and too to gain confidence and the gain
trust of the staff, things like that. I think it's
not one major thing, but accumulation of small things.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I am trying to focus on Ryan.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Great stuff. It's good to see you back. We'll see
at the game tomorrow night. Thanks again, I appreciate having me.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's Ryan Grays and he's doing a lot better, doing
a lot better. And he didn't address the Carlson quote
about Sullivan directly.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Actually, I think he did earlier.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Today in an interview he did with Jason mackew the Post Gazette.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
So maybe you want to check that out.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But that's for sure true, Okay, I mean Sally, And
I don't want to make it seem like I'm ripping
Selly because he won two Stanley Cups for the team
I've supported since I was a boy. But he was
coaching last year like it was still the same team
as sixteen and seventeen, and especially with the defenseman like
one size fit all. Like Barkowski said earlier in the program,
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those teams back then you had Schultzen Daily and Latang
and all the even Doomlin, who was at the bottom
end of the skill and speed stuff, he had amplements.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Of both things. So you could play.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That way with every defenseman activity and every defenseman pinching.
But you know, is time war on the Penguins developed
a roster that cultn'ts and I think Muse now is
being more sensible, and I think one of the beneficiaries
of that was just on our show.
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It's time to ask Mark anything eight three three four
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talk to Ryan Graves. They give the guy credit. I
didn't think he was a good fit, but it turns
out he it was just a bad fit for Mike
Sullivan's system. And that's not Knocknsali. But you can't do
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one size fits all. You can't pretend it's twenty seventeen
when it's twenty twenty five. And Ryan Graves is definitely
prospered by the coaching switch. And that's just not me
saying that on behalf of a fringe player, and the
fringe player himself didn't say that directly.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
This last segment. Eric Carlson said.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
It something that didn't affect him, but talked about the
effect on other players like Graves and on much of
the group. It was just time for change. That's the
best way to put it. Let's go to Eric and Toledo.
Eric Askmark anything.
Speaker 9 (30:47):
Hey, super genious. Hey, and yesterday's showed you had mentioned
that when you were working with Karl Malone back in
your WCW days that he was kind of a pain.
Could you elaborate on that a little bit? Was he
like very difficult or full of himself?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
What did you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah? Full of him?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Just a dink.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Never let you forget he was Karl Malone. Dennis Raeman
could be one of the guys. Karl Malone, he wanted
to be one of the stars. And there's a difference.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Oh all right, thanks super Gina, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Let's go to Dave in the Rocks. Dave, what up?
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Listen to any yacht rock during your times with a
Connyeat Lake and episode? Do you like Christopher Cross or
do you have any preference?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
No, I'd like to beat Christopher Cross with a mackerel
until he's unconscious.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
And then your thoughts on that, I.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Do not like yacht rock proceed? What else?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
You got?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Fair enough?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Fair enough?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
How?
Speaker 10 (31:40):
How how could you not re up Malcolm with how
he's played and we haven't dealt him like we should
have an eighteen?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Okay, what do you do with Ben Kendall?
Speaker 10 (31:50):
Well, you won't want him playing wing obviously you would
want him on it. I mean he's on a pad
line stander, like you said, yep.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
So what do you do with Ben Kindle if you
keep Gino playing with sid You just said he's not
a wake to play.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You just said he's not a wing.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
Well, if you wouldn't make him a third line center,
you would have to put them on.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You do not retard the progress of your best forward
prospect for the sake of an old guy. You just don't.
I mean, what don't you get? What don't any of
you get? It's time to turn the goddamn page at
long last?
Speaker 10 (32:23):
Fair enough. I wouldn't see him in a Florida Jersey anywhere.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
He won't sign anywhere.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's just he says that, he says that he's he's
playing the game in terms of getting a new deal here,
and he's playing it pretty well.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Let's go to Joe. Joe, ask Mark anything.
Speaker 11 (32:39):
What I love what you've been talking about with the Tens.
But I want to get to that tomorrow. I'm one
of those people that have been anticipating a seven loss
or an eight and nine loss for the season for
the Steelers. What two games you think are guaranteed wins,
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because if we only win two, that's it's gonna be
a seven and ten season.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Well, they're gonna be Cleveland unless Shador figures it out
by then, which he won't.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
By the way, I'm gonna talk about this tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I think it's unfair that Kevin Stefanski, a two time
NFL Coach of the Year, a great coach, a better
coach than Tom Win, and trade Tom Win for him
in a second, is being criticized and judged by how
he's handling a fifth round pick just because his last
name Sanders and he's Dion's kid. That's grotesquely unfair. But
in terms of guaranteed wins, I don't know. I don't
know how many guaranteed wins there are with this team period.
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I'm not sure there's many guaranteed losses. I was gonna
say they're going to go to Detroit and get killed,
but Detroit's got and beat at home a couple times
in the last month of memory serves.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
So at this point, the whole Seaton, the rest of
the season is up in hand. It could be a
seven and ten, eight and nine, it could be whatever
everyone else is helping.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think I think eight to nine is more likely
than than ten and seven.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I think not and eights where it's going to land, though.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think nine to eight because you know, coach T's
never had a losing season.
Speaker 12 (34:06):
Let's go to a talkback, Hey, Mark, I just want
your thoughts on how you think the playoff race as
the NHL season continues to play out occurs, especially in
the Eastern Conference. Considering that every team except for Buffalo
is at five hundred or above right now, Obviously some
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teams are going to start to pull away and some
may trend down.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I mean, we're already seeing that with the Maple Leafs.
Speaker 12 (34:31):
But I'm curious your thoughts at the quarter away point
of the season.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Thank you well.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
First off, they're not all over five hundred. That is
mathematically impossible. You're cunning overtime losses as non event. You're
just comparing wins to regulation losses, overtime losses or losses too.
The way to make the playoffs is to go above
true five hundred, which is to have more wins than
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losses total losses. At least that's my experience. But I
think the Eastern Conference is bad. I think the Metro
Division is worse. At the beginning of the season, I
would have said the Penguins had no chance to make
the playoffs. In fact, I didn't say that, But now
I think they could finish as high as second in
the Metro. I think the only thing beyond them team
beyond them rather is Carolina.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
The Devils would use out.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I mean, they're better in the Penguins, but how much
ground will they lose and can they make it up
once Hughes gets back? So yeah, I think right now
the Penguins are a pretty good bet to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Far from the lock, but a decent bet. But we're
only nineteen games in.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
But if you get the Thanksgiving and you're in a
playoff spot, you make it seventy seven point five percent
of the time. Hey, if all the Tomlin Knights could
say never had a losing season, I can crow about
where the Penguins are at at Thanksgiving, which, let's not forget,
is a week away and they figure to be in
a playoff spot.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Let's go to Jude.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Hey, Jude, it doesn't matter, what do you want?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Mark?
Speaker 8 (36:02):
I find myself going back and forth on this Sunday's
game similar to you. But the Bears do have a
top five offense, and I actually did know this. They
leave the league in turnover margin by a pretty substantial margin.
And you know, when the Steelers lose the turnover battle,
they pretty much never win.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, but that basing your fortunes on takeaways is dicey
because you can't force them, like I was talking about
with Jerry Dulac before. But the Bears, I mean, their
offense worries me more than the takeaway thing. The Steelers
get takeaways as well, but their offense has power.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
They could man handle the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
They could man handle the Steelers on both sides of
the ball except for Mount Washington and the safeties.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
But yeah, I think the game's totally up for grabs.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I if you made me pick right the second I
picked the Bears in a close one.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
What about you?
Speaker 8 (36:51):
I you know, I kind of am hoping for that, honestly,
because if they lose this, there's a real chance they
lose you know, the next three, and.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Then they're really digging out a hole.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
And to be honest with you, I'm just kind of
hoping for a losing season at this point.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Well, for a losing season could be the best thing
that happens for the organization, not because it sticks it
up Coach T's backside, but because once the bloom is
off that rose, maybe you can look at your team
a little more realistically in terms of trying to build
to a legitimate contender, not just finishing about five hundred.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That said, they won't do that.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
All the Steelers I've ever cared about is the next game,
and it has been to their detriments. It sounds like
the right thing to do. It is not let's go
to Robin South Fayette.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Rob. What's up?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Mark? Are you doing great?
Speaker 6 (37:39):
My question is, when everyone's healthy, if I want you
to have a surplus and goalies, what will they do
with that? And what should they do with that?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I think what they will do and should do probably coincide.
Even though he's probably the best goal in the system,
I would send more shot down and stick with the plan,
which was to let him dominate the AHL and be
that much more red when he gets to Pittsburgh for keeps.
That said, if Jari or Shiloff's got hurt and Morshoff
came up and you know, played out the season, at
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some point, whether the injury is severe whatever, I would
have a problem with that. I think he is ready,
but how ready and ready to be? What a good
goalie or a dominant goalie. I will not have a
problem if they stick with their plan. Let's go to
a talkback.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Mark this is wrong from Cranberry. I know this. You're
always good with kids is.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
When they call right though, And I was wondering, do
you think you'd ever be interested in rearing children of
your own?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
And think it's a little late for that.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I'm sixty four, But my big regret in life, seriously
is I don't have kids for sure. But part of
that's because I want someone to take care of me
like I did my mother and my grandmother. Doesn't seem
fair that I won't after what I did for them.
Not that I regret it. I shouldn't have said it.
That's noted bad, but you know what I mean. Let's
go to one more talkback.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Mark Matt for mccannal was here. I know you're a
huge fan of music.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Have you ever tried yourself to play a musical instrument?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I took some keyboard lessons to the kid. That was
an utter disaster. We had a piano in the living room.
Later on, just an organ in the living room. I
did not take to it. Tried, took a couple lessons,
just did not take to it. Wish I had. There's
a bunch of regrets. I just said.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
The one regret I have is that I didn't have kids.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I have a bunch of regrets so many you can't
mention them. The only thing I'm happy with in my
life is professional like I wish I had played a
musical instrument. I wish I had played a team sport
in high school. I think that's a great experience that
cannot be replaced, all right, as Mark Anything brought to
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