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October 9, 2025 • 17 mins
Paul Zeise makes his weekly visit to the program to talk Steelers and a little college football. Gerry Dulac joins for some Steelers talk. Ask Mark Anything!

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Joining me now to talk a little bit more football
from the Post Gazette.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
He is Paul Seiss. Paulp.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I've been bitching all week about the Steelers using basically
seven offensive linemen with Washington at tight end and Spencer
Anderson is the extra tackle. It's prehistoric. What do you
think is it good? Will it beat good teams in
big games? What about a playoff game?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, I think Mark the thing about it is they're
doing everything in her power to make sure that Aaron
Rodgers is still upright when it gets to the end
of the season. So I mean, I don't know that
I love it when they're playing against some of the
some of the high powered quarterbacks that they're gonna have
to see in the playoffs. But in terms of just

(00:49):
trying to maul some teams and and and and you know,
be able to run the football enough that you don't
have Aaron Rodgers taking as many because really the first
couple of weeks of the season, I thought Aaron Rodgers
was probably never gonna make it the week five because
they got hit too much and was getting He was
not just taking hits, he was taking big hits. So

(01:10):
I think, you know, part of what they're trying to
do with the running game is preserve their quarterback. If
that sounds if, if it makes any sense to you,
I think early in the season, I'm actually okay with it.
I really don't know that they have to do a
whole lot more than try and get to the end
of the year with Aaron Rodgers still being able to walk.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, I get it, but my point would be that.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
It keeps Aaron Rodgers from being Aaron Rodgers if that's
still possible at forty It eliminates some weaponry. A you
look at Fiarmouth and John who being minimized.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You're trying to win, not just keep him healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
It reminds me of when Arians his game plan put
Bennett risk, but they won more. I was okay with that,
right and every coordinator after that protected Ben, but they
didn't win as much.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Well, I guess that's a catch twenty two. I think
Aaron Rodgers, like I said, at forty one, forty two
years old. You know, it was a year and a
half ago or whatever it was. Two years ago he
had a major major surgery. He's, you know, not the
most nimble of feet right now. They just can slowly,
but surely build on Aaron Rodgers. But here's the other thing.

(02:24):
I mean, I think that Aaron Rodgers might only have one,
you know, weapon that really scares anybody, and that's dk Metcalp.
So you know, if you want him to start slinging
it around the field, that might be okay, except for
I don't know that they have you know, the personnel
around him to do that. So to me, it feels
like they're just trying to build a little bit at

(02:45):
a time. But I do really believe that they are
trying very hard to make sure that Aaron Rodgers is
healthy and upright for you know, the stretch running the
end of the season.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
And I don't even mind it against Cleveland because it
will help contain Garrett Is coming Sunday. But but again,
when they get the good teams, big games, playoff games,
I think you need to do more than this. Uh
what's your take in that vein Pall on how little
friarm was and Johnna were being underutilized. This offense was
supposed to be about the tight ends first and foremost.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I think that's real interesting. But it goes back
to what I said when they got John Smith, and
I said It's interesting. I keep hearing about all the
tight ends that he that that, you know, the Arthur
Smith once, but three of them aren't good blockers. So

(03:44):
if you've got three guys that aren't good blockers, you
know what I mean? Like to me, you're right, it
kind of goes counter to what it is you're trying
to do in the running game with the rest of
your offense. But it also means you probably can't use
those guys.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Here's a crazy stat, Paul. The Steelers running backs are
getting sixty four percent of the offensive touches.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is that good or bad?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Uh? Boy? Probably not. It's probably not ideal. But again,
I think it goes back to what we've talked about
with respect to the uh you know, the receivers they
have and whatnot, and that is those guys I just
don't think they're that good. And so it's you know,

(04:32):
in general, when you see a stat like that, you say, well,
at who's expense, Well, as long as DK metcalf is
getting his touches, I don't know. I mean, throwing the
gagwell seems like just as good of an option as
throwing it to any of the other guys out there
that they have.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
We're talking to Paul's ice to Postcausette here in the
Mark Mann Show, Paul's Worse Cleveland at Flato's gone. Five
rookies of starting, including Gabriela quarterback. Are the Browns moving forward?
Are they just trading?

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I would like to believe for their sake that they're
moving forward on some level. But the problem is it's
the Browns. And the other part of it is they've
so badly mangled the quarterback positions that I cannot imagine that.

(05:24):
You know, it's not that it's gonna turn out okay,
that Dylan Gabriel. I mean, you know, it's the Browns.
You're thinking exactly like I am, which is that he's
going to be a disaster. Suder Sanders is going to
be a disaster, and so all those other rookies that
are playing and playing well, it's gonna be pretty much
useless because they you know, they're on a team that

(05:44):
isn't very good.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
The Steelers have the AFC North locked up, but three
and one, with the rest of the division in tatters,
not least at the quarterback position, with all those teams
except maybe.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Glee well locked up, is probably a little too strong.
But I mean, Mark, you look at the other three teams,
they all look like they're just not They're not just bad.
They're a total disaster, you know. In the Ravens, I mean, yeah,
Lamar Jackson can come back, but I hope he can
score fifty or sixty points a game for them, because
that defense is ridiculously bad. I'm glad that the Bengals have,

(06:21):
you know, dusted off Joe Flacco to try and you know,
win a game or two. Uh, but it sounds like
Joe Burrow is gonna be out for like eight or
nine games, so you know by the time he gets back,
they'll probably be buried. So basically not locked up. But
it would take in monumental failure on the half of
the steel on behalf of the Steelers for them to

(06:42):
not win the AFC North at this point, because I
look at the Ravens and I think with that defense,
and you know, a couple more weeks of Cooper Rush,
you know, they could be every bit of like one
in six at some point.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, I agree with all that, And here's the prediction
I feel safe making. I think the.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Steelers will have a two game lead in the Division
when they played Baltimore on December seventh, and the week
before when they played Buffalo. I think they'll be in
the hunt for the AFC number one seed overall. Whether
they hold on to either let alone that number one seed,
which I think is a real long shot because of Buffalo,
I don't know, but I think that's how we'll shape
up at that juncture.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Are you buying the Colts at all?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I think they'll be in the talk for what I'm
talking about, number one seed then, but I don't know.
I mean, they got the best running back in football
with Taylor and Danny Dimes.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's a real renaissance, isn't it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I mean I'm looking at their offense and you know,
what's the guy's name, their coach Stech. Yeah, yeah, the
offensive coordinator from the Eagles. I mean to be honest,
if this goes on for another two or three weeks,
if I'm the Giants, I'm firing this. The bull guy
who was supposed to be the offensive guru and everything else,

(07:58):
from the simple fact that he obviously has no idea
how to work with a quarterback. Seeing as the kid
comes to Indianapolis, it looks like a pretty good player.
So I don't know yet if I'm buying the Colts,
but every week I come away from the weekend saying, boy,
they might be the most impressive team in the AFC
right now.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Paul Quick College Football Talk, what's your take on Penn
State's lost to UCLA and what James Franklin.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Got to do the rest of the season to keep
his job.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, I mean, I think he'll keep his job. I
mean again, the fifty six million dollars, I don't care
what school you are, and you know, unless you're one
of those Texas schools with oil and gas money, that's
a big buyout. Fifty six million dollars, I think is
what I've read his buyout is. It's interesting. I know
that they appear to be Detton buried, and you know,

(08:50):
you lose a play a listless game against a horrific
team and lose, you know, but if you look at
the rest of their schedule, if they run the table,
they'll be in the playoffs. And I'm not saying they
can beat Ohio State. Maybe they can't even beat Indiana,
but they you know, they win those two games, and
they finished ten and two I'm pretty sure they're gonna
be in the playoff and then pretty much everything else,

(09:12):
you know, goes away. So I think what he needs
to do is win sort of the confidence back of
maybe his players, the fan base, and the administration. But
I mean, I don't see unless they go two and
ten or you know, four and eight, and I don't
think it's gonna even be a discussion to fire. And
they might, they might ask him to make some changes,

(09:35):
you know, on his staff and do all those things.
But to me, I just think that's a really big
buyout to try and fire a guy.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
What about the quarterback, Drew Aller, Do you think he's
still a first round pick? I feel like him in
arts Manning might drop out of the first round, or maybe,
in Manning's case, stay in school another year.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, I think Manning should probably stay in school another year.
Drew Llar right now, I don't know that he the
first rounder in anybody's mind. And I also, you know,
one of the things that's interesting is we were told
that they have the two best coordinators in the country,
you know, because they spent all his money on these
two coordinators. And the thing I keep reading is that

(10:13):
a Lar does not fit into the system. And the
kid that they let go to like Missouri or wherever
the hell he went is the guy that probably should
be the the you know him. So it's kind of
interesting because that probably tells me that Drue Law is
probably not going to really fix whatever it is it's
ailing him during the season. But again, with his physical tools,

(10:36):
he could go to the combine and still solidify himself
as a top you know, as a first round pick.
We've seen stranger things.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
What about pitt In this went over Boston College.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
A lot of people are going nuts, just like the
Niver Holstein last year. I like the way this new
kid quarterback, the eighteen year old Heinschel, how he looked.
But all they did was be the craft team, right.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
They'd been a terrible team. And you know, I think
one of the things I'll tell you may Heidchel was
the best quarterback in pitch spring. I wrote about that
several times. He was the best quarterback in training camp,
and actually it wasn't even close. So it's interesting. You know,

(11:18):
they lose a couple of games and all of a sudden,
the guy that they're paying all the money too goes
that goes right, out the window and and and they
you know, because I think that honestly, Pat and Mardosey
was starting to feel a little bit of heat after
losing to West Virginia then blowing that game against Louisville.
You know, at that point it's like, well, I know
that we paid this guy all his money, and we

(11:38):
got a payroll and all this other, but we need
to win. It's just kind of comical to me because
anybody that watched even a little bit of spring and
training camp will tell you the Heinchel Kidd was the
best quarterback in camp and it wasn't even close.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Paul, great stuff, Thank you so much for taking the time.
We'll talk again real soon.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
All right, thiks Man, talk to you soon.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
That's Paul's eis.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
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of the Pittsburgh Steelers. We got more Steelers talk at
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We got Jerry Douloc talking Steelers to the bottom of
the hour. I think the Steeler are gonna win this game.
I don't think it'll be well, it'll be one score game.
It'll be close till the end, but I don't think
the result will be in doubt. I don't. I do
want to see what happens if the Bronze make Zach
be the number two quarterback and leave Shador at the

(13:03):
emergency spot. What the reaction to that is by ownership,
who clearly wants Shador to play. Maw and Pau sanders Cleveland,
they just can't get away from drama, even when things
are moving, however, slightly in the good direction, what with
five rookies played in, including Dylan Gabriel, who I thought

(13:23):
played just fine despite losing to Minnesota in London last week.
Cleveland's got a good defense, Cleveland's got a lot going
for it, but they just can't get out of their
own way. And like Paul's I said a few moments ago,
you just can't trust him to do the right thing
at quarterback. Look at all the quarterbacks they've used since
since nineteen ninety nine when they came back into the NFL.

(13:45):
I think they've started what over forty quarterbacks in games
since then. And while I do like Dylan Gabriel to
this point, I don't think he's the answer.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't think he's their long term quarterback. Who knows.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Maybe, But if Cleveland wins like three games this year,
which is what might happen, you know, four or five games,
what if they get a chance to draft one of
those so called stud quarterbacks in the first round. Do
they eschew that and take a player at a different position
and just stick with Dylan Gabriel. It's very early returns
on Dylan gab where you couldn't commit to him one

(14:22):
way or the other in that regard. But they, again,
the Browns can't get out of their own way. I've
been keeping an eye on the baseball playoffs. One thing
you gotta like is the Yankees being out kind of
ignominiously in the division series Toronto. You know, really was

(14:46):
never in danger of losing that series. They win three games.

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You know, with all the national media on their size side.

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Speaker 1 (14:57):
Payroll third in the league this year, traditionally top two,
top three, and they haven't won a World Series in
sixteen years. They made one last year but didn't win it.
That's the only time they've made the World Series since
having won it sixteen years ago. You know, their fans
are pissed. The New York media's pissed. You know, good

(15:19):
f the Yankees. I can't stand the Yankees. Same with
the Mets. The Mets said, I think the second highest
payroll in baseball this year and did not even make
the playoffs. Playoffs, But but interesting discussion. I forget who
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Yankees loss. And they blamed everybody but Aaron Boone. Aaron
Boone's like the whipping boy, the manager for the fans.
They blame him, But you know what they blamed. They
blamed the analytics. They said, Aaron Boone isn't the guy
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