November 5, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The exit one oh five nine.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's time not to talk to Paul's iis to post
because that Paul, what's your take on the Steelers doing
nothing at the trade deadline yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I thought they should have. I'm not shocked they didn't.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Well, I mean, I think the biggest thing is they
need a receiver. And to me, you know, I've heard
all of these rationalizations as to why they didn't do it,
but it makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
You've got a forty two year old quarterback who's pretty good,
You've got a defense that looks like they can become
pretty opportunistic, and you've got to do you know, and
maybe even be good enough to win some playoff games
if they play like they did the other day.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Why would you.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Not give yourself the best chance to win. I've read
all of the rationalizations from what I would call the
uh teflon Tomlin friends in the media, you know, uh
and and and it's incredible to me how all of
a sudden, this is the rebuilding team. They're not all in,
they're not trying to win, they're not well I'm sorry,
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but that's nonsense. You can be a rebuilding team. You
can have draft picks, you can have all that stuff
that you need, and guess what, you can also trade
a couple of those guys to make yourself a little
bit better if you think you have a team that
might be able to take a shot. I'm not saying
that mark that they are a super Bowl contender, but
I think that you have to give yourself the best
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chance to take a shot if you've got a team
full of you know, thirty somethings, which is.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What they do.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh no, no question. And I'm hearing the same things
you are. I'm here, and they never said they're all in.
But when you have a roster as old as theirs,
and you made the moves they did this past offseason,
you are all in, whether you verbalize that or not.
And you know, even all in to win a playoff
game is where they're at because they haven't done so
for seven years.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
But all in is all in.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And I would have traded the two first round picks
for Sauce Gardner, but let's forget about that because they
just weren't. But I would have definitely up the bid
the Jacksonville got the Jacksonville gave to Vegas to get
Jakobe Myers, because not only do they need a number
two receiver Paul, but if they lose Dk, their season's over.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
They have no one who can step up.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'm not saying Myers is an equal, but he could
maybe suffice.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well. I mean, I think the biggest thing about it is, uh,
You've got a guy in uh DK Metcalf that you
invest thirty million million dollars. If you think about it,
thirty million dollars is what you gave this guy. And
you had four targets for him the other day and
he got two catchers for six yards. I mean and
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written mostly because the other teams that you're playing, they
don't have to really respect, you know, anybody else that
you have. It's great that you've got four tight ends
or whatever it is, and you and you're you know
you you you love throwing the ball to them because
your offensive coordinator, you know, that's his thing. That guess
what I mean. I know that Patrick Pat McAfee are
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on McAfee.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Pat farm Youth had that play two years two weeks
ago where he you know, he got behind the defense.
It was a broken coverage. But for the most part,
if you throw the ball to Donell Washington at eight yards,
he's gonna get tackled at eight and a half yards.
If you throw it to Jonus Smith at eight yards,
he's gonna get tackled at eight and a half yards.
If you throw up to Farmuth the corner, Hey, what's
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same thing. Those guys scared nobody and so to me
and Calvin Austin is just sort of a ham and ager.
If he's your third or fourth receiver, then you're probably,
you know, in a pretty good place. The fact that
they're trying to force him to be their second receiver
tells me that they're not serious people when it comes
to we've got a team that we think we've got
a lot of pieces in place, why don't we take
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a shot and make the second receiver position something that
other teams have to respect. Right now, they don't have
to respect it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What's your take on the defensive performance against the Colts,
which I thought was great, I mean of five sacks,
six takeaways, But Ben Roethlisberger and this podcast brought up
a good point in so many words, that it's a
slippery slope when you have to rely on that to win,
and pointed out I think that against Green Bay, no sacks,
no turnovers, they lose.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of what the
Steelers defense is gonna be this year though, Mark, And
you know what, you know, it's probably not sustainable week
after week after week. But if you get into the
playoff situation and you have a couple of weeks where
your stars are playing like stars, now all of a sudden,
you've got a chance to maybe win some games. I mean,
I don't think they're ever gonna be a defense right
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now as constituted. They have too many holes where if
they don't get those high impact plays, they probably I
mean teams are probably gonna move them. I mean, listen,
the Colts said, what three are sixty three and seventy
yards against them? It isn't like they shut the Colts down.
They were just able to stop drives a big plays.
And I think that's their MO. I mean, I think
that's if you look at their defense, that's sort of
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their MO. I don't think secondary is great, you know,
I think they're They're linebacking group, especially the inside linebackers
against the run are just kind of okay. But they
can all make big plays and if they're making up
big plays. They can be really good. I just think
it's end realistic to believe that this is gonna be
a defense like you know they had and from say
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like two thousand, you know three to say two thousand
and nine, where they basically, you know, made you cry
to try and.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Get five yards.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
That's not just kind of defense. This defense is not
that defense where they can consistently weak in and weak
out make it really difficult on you to get four
or five yards. What they can do, however, is make
big plays. So if their stars show up, then their
defense is gonna be okay. If the stars don't show
up this week, have probably a lot like the Green
Bay game, where you know, where the Chargers kind of
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go up and down the field against them.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, I agree with all that. I dis agree with
Ben too that it's a slippery slope. I mean, they
got the six turnovers and only won by seven, and
there is a trend if they don't get turnovers, they
just don't win.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
What's your take on Ramsey moving to safety and the
acquisition to Dugger. They were tandem back there against the Colts,
and I guess they're gonna play there in La this
week and I just leave Ramsey at safety period.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
How about you?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, I would agree with that. You know one thing
I would say Mark about that. You know what your
one of your last statements there. If the Colts got
six turnovers, how many points would they had on the board.
You know, that's what that's the difference. I think if
the Colts Scott six turnovers their way, it probably had
been fifty plus points. And so, I mean, part of
the problem with the Steelers offense is, hey, it's a
little too conservative still because of the head coach and
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the and the offensive coordinator. But also I just don't
know that there's that much firepower now.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Ramsey to me.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Is obviously a really, really, really good safety. The only
thing I worry about is if he's playing safety, you've
got Joey Porter Junior probably missed cast as the number
one corner, and whoever gonna put out there, Pierre or
whoever it else you're gonna put out there.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
As done pretty good. Eckles has done pretty good, right,
But my thing with Porter is to kind of jump
ahead to that. I thought he did pretty good against
the Colts because they used him in press man, which
is his strength. I would keep him in pressman and
just live with the occasional flag.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's where he plays well.
But my point is if you take Ramsey out of
the equation, you know, I just feel like, if if
the front seven isn't getting home against the quarterback, I
don't know that your secondary's gonna be good enough. I
just don't know your corners are quite good enough.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I guess the charges it won't matter that much because
I don't know that they've got great receivers. Keenan Allen
is what he is. But the reality to me is
if you look at uh, you know they have to
get into a game where they're playing against some of
the better teams for the better quarterbacks. I mean, I
think obviously Jalen Ramsey is really good as your safety,
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but you know it is your corner position good enough.
That's that's the only question I have.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Mark, Yeah, you got to roll the dice one way
or the other. And I think Ramsey is better at
safety at this point in the corner, so that would
be the direction I'd go in.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I got to give Tom Win and Austin credit.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I love how they juggle the front seven against Indy
with that four to three look. You know, they sometimes
use three inside backers, sometimes three edge guys, and I
think Watt, Peyton, Wilson, Heinsmith all had their best games
of the year.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So I hope they keep doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I hope they don't retreat to what's safe.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Well, that's the question. There's a million dollar question mark.
Are they going to revert back to the same things
that they've done in the past, which you've heard, you know,
multiple people talk about how predictable they are, how easy
they are to dice, act, how easy they are to
understand what they're doing. I think one of the things
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they did in this game that they haven't done I
don't know in lot forever maybe is they basically played
a lot of nickel defense and stuff on first down
and second down. They were willing to basically say, we're
gonna mix up our looks, we're gonna do things differently,
and we're gonna, you know, we're a roll of dice
and basically think that we can stop your running game
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depending no matter what look we're in. And I thought
that was probably a big reason why they had so
much success.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Uh, what's your take on the LA game? LA's having
some trouble with tackles, some injuries. They went out and
got somebody though. But despite Herbert's excellence, which is fraught
with inconsistency, it seems like a game the Steelers could win,
and if they want to prove they were good enough
to not make a move at the deadline yesterday, to
my mind, they need to win.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think the artists play player for player,
they're probably better than the Chargers. The two offensive tackles
on the Chargers, actually they've lost three tackles, right, you know,
but but both of their starting tackles and then are
actually a plus one.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
They they don't they don't have a lot of firepower
on the outside. And so to me, I feel like
the Steelers should be able to do what they did
against the Colts, and even a better job, which is
shut down the run, get to Herbert, you know what
I mean, and make him make bad decisions, because we've
seen from him. When you get to him and you
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hit him around and knock him around a little bit,
and you hit him and all that other stuff, you know,
he's gonna make some bad decisions and throw the ball
for grabs at times. So to me, like I said,
I think the most important thing with them is if
their defense is able to get to Herbert, I thin't
gin it could be a really long day.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
For the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, the defenses. The Chargers defense is okay, it's
not it's not great, but it's not terrible. The Steelers
to be able to score enough points to win the game.
But again, if they can't get home to Herbert, he's
good enough that he could pick them apart, and and
and and really make it a long day for them.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Do you know what's what's gonna be funny?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Paul?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I think this Deelers are gonna win the division.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I think this win over Indy has enabled them to
keep Baltimore arms length and they can kind of bleed
out the division. And they better because I think only
one team from the AFC North is gonna make the playoffs.
But wouldn't it be ironic? That's not the word. Maybe
funny is the word. If they win the division and
Buffalo and Kansas City are both wild cards and thereby
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potential opponents, well, I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
There's a good chance that's gonna happen. I mean, that's
what's funny and they're a pretty good chances that could
happen where they're hosting you know, Kansas City, and you
know what, I don't really care, uh, you know who
they have and the fact they didn't go out and
they can move. If they host a healthy Kansas City team,
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they're going home in the first round. They're not gonna
be Patrick Mahomes. They're just not and they're probably not
gonna be Josh Allen either. And quite frankly, if they have,
you know, if it's Baltimore, that is like say, they're
the three things ball, the Moore's the sixth seed, and
Baltimore's fully healthy. I don't know that they're beating Lamar
Jackson either. I mean, I think it's really important.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It was really.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Important for them to make their offense better because at
the end of the day, I think their offense is
gonna have to win games in the playoffs and against
those three teams. I just don't see how it could happen.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Paul great stuff, will do it again next week.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Good job, all right, thanks my man, We'll see you soon.
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We got a lot to talk about. Sergey Morrishoff, the
goalie of the future, is now the Penguins goalie of
the President. He joined the team today because of an
injury to Tristan Jari. Worshoff has been burning it up
in the AHL got the goaltender of the month save
percentage of ninety three. And the debate I've been waging
on today's program is, even though it's Shilloffs's turn to
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like to see.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Him win, but I'd play him. I would have that
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Speaker 2 (14:17):
You got a lot of empty seats at these games,
not least on the weeknight.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Annanci.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Morishof's gonna play might not sell a lot of tickets,
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Speaker 3 (14:31):
I know that was the case with Flurry. So to
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Speaker 2 (14:37):
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the people with you, when you're trying to get another
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Speaker 2 (15:06):
And Sergey Morrishaw playing tomorrow night might do that at
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Speaker 1 (15:21):
I called him yesterday, I say, and should get the shot.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Uh So, it's it's nice to see it's it's coming
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Speaker 1 (15:28):
But yeah, who knows. You could take a shot with
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Speaker 2 (17:40):
With that mind, let's bring on the two times Stanley
Cup champ from the Penguins Radio Network and Sports at Pittsburgh.
The old two niner Phil bork Borky Morishoff got called up.
Would you start him tomorrow night at home against Ov
his countryman. With OV sitting on six hundred and ninety
nine career goals, it sounds like a feature film.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Good afternoon, w M and yes, yes and double yes,
and not to correct you, but I think he's sitting
on seven ninety Wait a minute, yeah, eight ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, I can't that many?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, No, I know you lose track. You're just like
anything over six hundred it blows your mind up. But
they play against Saint Louis tonight, so we'll get him
on the back to back. Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
And yeah, if he doesn't go against Sat.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Louis, he might roll into Pittsburgh looking for number nine
hundred and yeah, that would just add to the drama.
You know, they have another Russian goaltender go up against
Ovie and try to hold him at that eight ninety
nine number. I just heard you. I just popped in
the car. I heard you talking about all the kind
of undercurrent reasons as far as butts in the seats
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and excitement and everything else. Because yeah, man, when people
are having the you know, the waffles in the morning
and drinking coffee around the breakfast table, you know, there's
a lot of people in Pittsburgh talking about Sergei Mirshoff.
His name has become well known and he's never played
the game for the Penguins yet, And but you know,
talking to people down in Wilsbury that he's not slowing down,
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that like, this guy's a real deal. What he did
in East Coast League and Wheeling is well documented. You
don't need me on here to tell you how he
absolutely destroyed that league and thought Okay, Well, the American
League is a different level. Well, he did it in
the American League too. He just absolutely is lightning on fire.
You mentioned he was goaltender of the Month in October in.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
The American League.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He's never lost the game in overtime or shootouts. His
numbers as far as you know, say percentage goals against
Mark or and if you even go to you know,
Elite Prospects dot com and look at his record when
he was sixteen, fifteen, fourteen thirteen, they're all the same Mark.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
This this kid is is I don't know how what
you want.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
To call him a protigy or what, but this is
not something new for him. He is he has really
dialed in in the goaltender position, and he is mature
beyond his years.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, I for sure would start him up.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I know that the rotation dictates otherwise that it should
be Shillof's, but mus and Doubas need to have a
sense of the occasion. It would remind me very much
of Flurry at eighteen in two thousand and three, forty
eight saves and stuffed the penalty shot despite a two
nil lost to Los Angeles. It was a coming out party.
You need to give moments a chance to happen. And
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I'm telling you, Borky ain't. No moment could have happened
even if more Shock plays great twelve thirty Saturday at
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
No. I agree, And you're right. You know, it's all
about whether we're talking about life or we're talking about sports.
When preparation meets opportunity, that's when great things happen. And
that's the thing. This kid has been preparing for this moment.
He's never got caught up in accolades or numbers or
any of that. He just goes about his business.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
It's a little sid like in the way he is.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He is all in with his preparation before games, after games,
the way he takes sure of his body, the things
he puts in his body, and how he recovers for
the next start for a kid as young as he
is at twenty one years of age. And you're right,
I don't think any moment would be too big for him.
I think he is again, he's so prepared for whatever
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you throw at him. You know, Kindles a little bit
like that too, Ben Kindle's a little bit like that too,
that he can't believe that these kids are eighteen twenty
one years of age and have this mind that works
at a different level than the average Joe of how
they absorb information and then how they are able to
take it and say, Okay, I can use this, this,
this and this, this is good for me. Okay, let
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me go play my game.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Well, speak of the Devil.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Just as exciting to me is Ben Kindle skating at
wing on Sid's line.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I feel like he's more of a center, but I feel.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like this is a good move for right now, and
I feel like Kindle and Sid might think the game
in similar fashion.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I agree, Uh it might, but just on the outside
looking in, look like almost by default, like, okay, well,
if we don't put Kendle there, who are we going
to put there that would would fit well? That maybe
can think the game on a Sid level. And I
don't know if there's in somebody else right now that
could be that plug and play. And his confidence has
to be at an all time high getting two goals
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in Toronto the other night, and the way that he
scored them, they're not excuse me goals. He goes to
the net and he knows, uh, he's got that quick
release and He's got incredible confidence without cockiness. And you know,
I think having Brian Russ on that line too, and
Russy's really developed into a great leader. So Sid could
talk to you, and you might be a little bit
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overwhelmed talking to Sid and just you know little things
that Sid, little hints he might give you. But then
if you have Rusty talking to you too at a
much different level. Uh, you know, it took Rusty a
while to figure out how the play was Sid. So
I think maybe Rusty could tell Ben Kindall a few
little tips and shortcuts on what works and just as
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importantly what doesn't work was Sid. And you have to admit,
Mark that the Kindle has that brain that functions at
a different level than most and the way he thinks
the game and the way he processes both things offensively
and defensively.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
We're talking to Phil Bark from the Penguins Radio Network
and sports Net Pittsburgh. Bork, I'm gonna go way off
the charts here, but bear with me. After the way
Kindall played on the power play in Toronto, he should
run it from that left half wall, and that's when
everybody's healthy. He's got more power play acumen in just
a short bit we've seen than anybody they got.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I can't disagree with you. He yeah, he just figures
it out. Mark, I just I don't know if i've seen.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
An eighteen year old kid. You know that. We didn't
hear that. We I mean, we heard really good things
about obviously eleventh overall, but you're right, he takes for
this given he doesn't try to force things. He's simplified things.
He's got that little it's a little curling drag. Mark,
it's a little it's so so it's he just changes
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the right and then he's got an unbelievable snap. I
don't know where his his stick flex is, but you
know he wears that number eighty one. He's a right
hand shot. It's it's a little phill like right where
it just jumps off the stick and all of a
sudden goaltenders are surprised that it's by him and he's
figuring out now that Okay, I could be that bumper guy.
We haven't seen him really unleashed one from the kind
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of the high bumper spot you know where Patrice Berground
used to be. Mark, Uh, you know, tj Oshie is
a few guys in the league that are really good
at that bumper guy. I think he can be that guy.
I think he's got that release, maybe not from forty
to forty five feet out, but maybe twenty five to
thirty thirty five feet out. He could be a goaltender
clean and he's got that that quick feet and a
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quick mind that are matched up with the feet to
make those decisions. Should I be on the flank, should
I be in front of the net, Should I be
the bumper guy? Should I go behind the net? Should
I flip flop with Gino with a flip flop with Sid.
I think that it's seamless for him because it's just instincts.
And again, he's prepared. He's prepared himself for this moment,
and he's not I don't know how he was brought up,
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but he's not overwhelmed by the opponent, by the venue,
by who he's playing against, and certainly who he's playing with.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, his parents were two pro soccer players, So yeah,
that part of it doesn't surprise me. And I want
to backtrack, Like I said, Kindle should run the power play.
And I'm sure some were shocked that I said that.
I said that because people are like well, sid and Gino,
but I know you agree sid In Gino and no
knock on them. They're not great power play players. They
get points on the power play, but they aren't classically
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great with the man advantage like you know how Mario
was or Gonchar was, where they just had it figured
out as good as SidD In Gino are five, I
don't think they've ever totally figured out the power play.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, and I think if if you be, if this
is where you're going, I'm gonna lean into it. Those
two together. I mean, we have seen brilliance between eighty
seven and seventy one, but it's it's not as regular
as you make a great example Gauntchar and Malkin on
the power play. Those are two peas in the pod.
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They thought exactly the same and it was it was
magical those years. It was absolutely magical and how they
worked it around. And then you you we even said
there too, right, But you bring in a guy like Kindle,
and you're right because the league doesn't really know about
Ben kindall, so he's really unpredictable to his opponents. But
I think because of his positioning, you know, how he
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shows his stick all those little things that he does
that he can kind of give those no look passes,
where again unpredictable to the opponent, predictable to his teammates.
I think you add in all those elements with high
guys like Sid and Gino that I think it can be.
And then also now it adds to his five on
five play with Rusty and Sid, because he'll be out
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there on the power play with them also.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And one thing that I was working toward, I think
you sense it. I'm glad Kindle's on Sid's line, so
Gino isn't. They tried that in Toronto. It failed miserably,
and let's be honest, it always does. I've never remembered
a game where those two playing together five on five
really stuck.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
No. I've mentioned it in the booth because at times
it's awkward that they look for each other. But it's
it's it's just not magical. It's just not it's not seamless,
it doesn't, it doesn't just organically happen. You know, if
they're out there four and four or even three on
three in overtime, you see more creativity between the two,
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but five on five you just don't see it as
much I can't give you a reason. I don't know why, Mark,
I'm made. I don't know if you even have a reason.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
No, I got no idea.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, it just doesn't seem to gel like you expected
to write.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
No, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
We always think it should work, but it never really
does work. Now, speaking of something that didn't work, how
about the third period of that game in Toronto, after
playing Toronto badly for the first forty minutes, how much
of a carryover will there be from that tragedy as
the Penguins move forward?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Good question, Yeah, because the Penguins started but seven tow
and one in their first ten games, and now they're
won two and one in the last four. The game
in Winnipeg preceding the Toronto game, with all all that
in the bag of chips, the Columbus game wasn't great
for the Penguins either, so you know, there's been some
leaky moments and they've got to dial it back in again.
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But to get back to your specific question about the
Toronto game, I don't remember saying as dominant, and Holy Moses,
was that dominant in that second period? I mean Toronto
barely got a shot on goal any of the shot
that were registered were dribblers that came in on Tristan
Jari and then to see things just kind of like
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stand through the hour glass and you just could not
stop it. After the Matthews goal to start the third period.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
It just shows you how crazy sports can be.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's a shame that happened to the Penguins. You wish
it happened to somebody else and you could look at
it and say, hey, let's not let this happen to us,
But it did happen to us. So you can go
two ways with it, right Mark, You can completely unravel
and just go right in the crapper the rest of November,
or you can say, okay, wakey, wakey, that was enough
of that, and we're going to get back to playing
the way we played when we went seven to and one.
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We're going to bring the details back. We're gonna be
way better defensively, more consistent, because in that second period,
the things that really stood out to me where they
were moving their feet, everything was done with a purpose.
Even to dump the puck in. It was dumped to retrieve,
not dump the chase. They want every fifty to fifty battle.
They were first to every loose puck. Just just go
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back to those things. When you play Washington tomorrow, have
that great start, because that's the other part. They talked
about how crappy their start was against Winnipeg, and that's
something that's easily correctable, and they did that against Toronto.
Let's see if they can do it against Washington tomorrow
night and get back on the tracks. Because you look
at where this is crazy. I just looked at the
standings here, Mark, it's thirteen teams. It's not thirteen teams
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between sixteen points and eighteen points. You're one week from
being down in the basement or one week being clear
number one in the National Highy League. It's crazy what's
going on in the league.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Right now, Bourky.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
In a weird way, I'm looking forward to seeing Danton
Heinen and Ryan Graves play after their recall for Wilkes too,
you know, kind of recycled vets. Heinen was leading the
Little Penguins and scoring and played well with Cleyven and
Don there as a line, if memory serves in, Graves
got to know he's at the last chance saloon. I mean,
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I didn't expect to see him all year, but opportunities knocking.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, let's start with Heine first. I think we all
like Heinel, but we're not in the on the good
guy business. We're in the win hockey games business. And
that's gonna be humbling for him. Again. Talking to some
people down in wilts they said that both were really
good soldiers. Yeah, and Kirk kirk McDonald down there and
one of his press conferences say hey, let's let's just
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get the cards on the table here. Let's not know
smoke and mirrors here. These guys are not happy to
be here. They wanted to get the heck out of here, right,
And so yeah, not only with Heinel leaning leading Wilsbury
and scoring, he was tied for the league lead in scoring.
So good on you, Dann Heine. And they didn't drag
his lip across the ice. He pulled up his socks
and started putting biscuits in the basket. So I'm not
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worried about him. He's a great pro, great teammate. He'll
do whatever you ask him to do.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
And being the guy.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
That got singled out because of the competition in training camp,
that's gonna be humble. And hopefully you put a rocket
ship up his backside as far as Gravy. I think
if Ryan Graves just starts playing like a big Richard
if you know what I mean short for Richard, I
think other things will start to fall into place for him.
He's six foot five, two hundred and twenty five pounds.
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He is a mountain of a man, and I think
if he just kind of kind of wants to just
kind of meander and tiptoe through the tulips and just
kind of not make a mistake, just be safe, just
be okay, I don't think things work out well for him.
I think if he again be a difference maker, that's
what Dan Muse is saying. That's what he wants from guys.
If you don't end up on the score sheet, do
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something in the hockey game that changes the momentum, and
you walk out of the rink and go holy man.
Ryan Graves was unbelievable tonight. He didn't end up on
the score sheet, but man, he was a major factor
in the Penguins winning the hockey game. That's what you
need from Ryan Graves.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Here's the other thing that boats may be well.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I think Dan Muse's system is just a bit more
structurally defensive and a bit more simple defensively that it
might suit Ryan Graves because in his previous NHL stops
that was the case, that type of method utilized, and
he was much better there.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, both in Colorado and New Jersey. You're right, he
and also he was he was paired with top guys, right,
he was part of the top pairing because he was
there kind of the Brian Doomot, you know, the stay
at home guy, just play it safe, right, And so
now a little bit more is being asked out of
him here in Pittsburgh. And listen, this is a weak
you know, excuse for him if I'm making it that,
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you know, the the change and the system and all that,
and then you know he got behind it and he
was reading his press clippings and all the negativity in
town about him. Forget about that. Don't look at any
social media gravy. He can play the game. We've seen
good moments from Ryan Graves, but we've seen some bad moments,
and that people want to remember the bad. I think, listen,
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with damn you coming in here, everybody wanted to clean
sheet of ice, right, I think as Penguin fans, media,
everybody alike, Let's give the guy a chance, another chance here, Okay,
because that's what life's all about about second and third chances.
All right, maybe he's gonna come back and be that
player that we want him to be. We hope. So
he's a good guy, he's a good teammate. You pull
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for people like this that, you know where everybody was
crapping on him, and now he's got a second opportunity
with the same team to redeem himself and be one
heck of a defense because we were gonna really need
him here with all the injuries we have.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Borky, you are the man. Great stuff. We'll see at
the rink tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Look forward to it. Double.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I'm enjoyed our time together. This was good hockey talk up.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
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Speaker 3 (34:57):
It's the Woodie Show Show Mornings at six. Precocious and
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the X at one. Thanks to Borky for joining me.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Also, I gotta give Wes Clark the Penguins chief Scott
some credit. He's I guess his title technically is Director
of Player Personnel. He's made some great calls on draft picks,
not at least Ben Kendle. A lot of people thought
Ben Kindle at eleven overall was a reach, but Wes
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Clark knew.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
And we see already how special this kid's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Uh and maybe even more so tomorrow night when he
jumps onto Sidney Crosby's line when Washington visits.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
So full credit to Wes Clark.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Let's go to Antonio. Antonio, ask Mark anything.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Hey, Mark, I'll get the Hounds game on on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
And I was just after watching that penalty shout out.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I was thinking to myself, I'm going to carry that
feeling with me for the rest of my life because
it would just sell electric. So I wanted to ask
you what type of soccer moment would like Do you
have that carry that you'll carry with you for the
rest of your life?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Winning the European Cup in two thousand and five when
Liverpool trail d Acmulian three zero at halftime and scored three
goals in nine minutes to not the game up and
then one in penalty kicks. I watched that game with
my mom, who was very ill. Never flinch, never gave up,
never thought we were out of it, And yeah, I
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will carry that with me for sure for the rest
of my life.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Let's go to Justin. Justin ask Mark anything?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Hey what I'm Mark?
Speaker 6 (36:44):
So I lived with two British guys in New York
and they've been getting me into severe leg I'm trying
to become a Villa fan, but I don't know what's
gonna take.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
They're kind of stuck in the mid table.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
So thoughts, pros, cons opinions.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You think, I think you're overthinking it. I mean, if
you like Villa, root for Villa. They're solid team, great tradition,
former European Cup champions, I think in nineteen eighty, good
team right now, good manager with Unai Emery.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Don't overthink things.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Plus, if you wait to see who like the best
team is, that just makes you a front runner. If
Bill was the first team that caught your fancy, that's
who you should go with.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, but they're having trouble scoring goals. It's a little frustrating.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Well, then you should pretty then you shouldn't be a
football fan at all. You're overthinking it too much. Thanks
for Colin. Let's go to a talkback.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Super genius, Eric and Toledo.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Hey, I thought demonte Kz was just released from Cleveland.
Would you consider bringing him back to shore up the
safety position? Thanks?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know, it's funny I thought the same thing. He's
a really dirty player. He got that four game suspension. Remember,
gets a lot of personal foul penalties. Ein'ight, real greats.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
But if I had to pick between him Chuck Clark
won Thornhill and Pepper's, I might pick him on te Casey.
I'm not saying it'd be any well, he would be
better than these guys. I don't know how much better.
I don't know if it's worth it because he's, you know,
like I said, lots of flags, real dirty player.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Let's go to a talkback.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Hey, double m uh. Just curious.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
When you're in traffic, what what's your method?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Do you stay in one lane no matter what, or
do you try to beat the traffic do you try
to outsmart it, jump lanes, try to go with the flow.
What's your approach?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I generally stay in one lane unless one lane stopped
in one lanes moving I mean, duh. But on my
way home, I always try to get in the left
plane because that's the line I got to be in
eventually to turn to take my exit to go to
twenty eight norths which ultimately takes me home. I'm talking
about coming through the tunnels. Well, speaking to which I
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had a road rage incin today. I was going up
Pig Hill on twenty eight that goes to my old
neighborhood in montroy where I grew up, where my bank is,
and some old guy in a truck blocked it's a
two way street, even though it's very narrow and at
the bottom.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
He was trying to get out.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
He had the whole thing blocked while he waited for
the light, so I was sitting in the middle of
the street. Finally I just put up alongside him. I
go bleep, and he bleep, bleep, bleep, Get the f
out of the street. He goes, what am I supposed
to do? And I go it's a two lane road.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
M effort.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
He threatened me and I like almost want to get
out of my car, and he just left, which is
good because well, no, he wouldn't have killed me.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
It would have been two really old guys fighting and
I didn't want to fight. Let's go to a talk back.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
That's one of those songs are in here, and you
just cannot.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Turn songs that I can't turn off. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
That's That's an odd question, but a good one, because
there are plenty of songs I've heard too much, like
like I've heard Stairway to Heaven and Freebird too much,
so I won't always leave.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Them on when they come on. H ask me.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Basically, my favorite song is like I mean, I don't know,
you know the music I use between breaks on this show.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Draw your own conclusions.
The exit one oh five nine.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's time not to talk to Paul's iis to post
because that Paul, what's your take on the Steelers doing
nothing at the trade deadline yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I thought they should have. I'm not shocked they didn't.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Well, I mean, I think the biggest thing is they
need a receiver. And to me, you know, I've heard
all of these rationalizations as to why they didn't do it,
but it makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
You've got a forty two year old quarterback who's pretty good,
You've got a defense that looks like they can become
pretty opportunistic, and you've got to do you know, and
maybe even be good enough to win some playoff games
if they play like they did the other day.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Why would you.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Not give yourself the best chance to win. I've read
all of the rationalizations from what I would call the
uh teflon Tomlin friends in the media, you know, uh
and and and it's incredible to me how all of
a sudden, this is the rebuilding team. They're not all in,
they're not trying to win, they're not well I'm sorry,
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but that's nonsense. You can be a rebuilding team. You
can have draft picks, you can have all that stuff
that you need, and guess what, you can also trade
a couple of those guys to make yourself a little
bit better if you think you have a team that
might be able to take a shot. I'm not saying
that mark that they are a super Bowl contender, but
I think that you have to give yourself the best
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chance to take a shot if you've got a team
full of you know, thirty somethings, which is.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What they do.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh no, no question. And I'm hearing the same things
you are. I'm here, and they never said they're all in.
But when you have a roster as old as theirs,
and you made the moves they did this past offseason,
you are all in, whether you verbalize that or not.
And you know, even all in to win a playoff
game is where they're at because they haven't done so
for seven years.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
But all in is all in.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And I would have traded the two first round picks
for Sauce Gardner, but let's forget about that because they
just weren't. But I would have definitely up the bid
the Jacksonville got the Jacksonville gave to Vegas to get
Jakobe Myers, because not only do they need a number
two receiver Paul, but if they lose Dk, their season's over.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
They have no one who can step up.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'm not saying Myers is an equal, but he could
maybe suffice.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well. I mean, I think the biggest thing about it is, uh,
You've got a guy in uh DK Metcalf that you
invest thirty million million dollars. If you think about it,
thirty million dollars is what you gave this guy. And
you had four targets for him the other day and
he got two catchers for six yards. I mean and
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written mostly because the other teams that you're playing, they
don't have to really respect, you know, anybody else that
you have. It's great that you've got four tight ends
or whatever it is, and you and you're you know
you you you love throwing the ball to them because
your offensive coordinator, you know, that's his thing. That guess
what I mean. I know that Patrick Pat McAfee are
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on McAfee.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Pat farm Youth had that play two years two weeks
ago where he you know, he got behind the defense.
It was a broken coverage. But for the most part,
if you throw the ball to Donell Washington at eight yards,
he's gonna get tackled at eight and a half yards.
If you throw it to Jonus Smith at eight yards,
he's gonna get tackled at eight and a half yards.
If you throw up to Farmuth the corner, Hey, what's
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same thing. Those guys scared nobody and so to me
and Calvin Austin is just sort of a ham and ager.
If he's your third or fourth receiver, then you're probably,
you know, in a pretty good place. The fact that
they're trying to force him to be their second receiver
tells me that they're not serious people when it comes
to we've got a team that we think we've got
a lot of pieces in place, why don't we take
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a shot and make the second receiver position something that
other teams have to respect. Right now, they don't have
to respect it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What's your take on the defensive performance against the Colts,
which I thought was great, I mean of five sacks,
six takeaways, But Ben Roethlisberger and this podcast brought up
a good point in so many words, that it's a
slippery slope when you have to rely on that to win,
and pointed out I think that against Green Bay, no sacks,
no turnovers, they lose.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of what the
Steelers defense is gonna be this year though, Mark, And
you know what, you know, it's probably not sustainable week
after week after week. But if you get into the
playoff situation and you have a couple of weeks where
your stars are playing like stars, now all of a sudden,
you've got a chance to maybe win some games. I mean,
I don't think they're ever gonna be a defense right
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now as constituted. They have too many holes where if
they don't get those high impact plays, they probably I
mean teams are probably gonna move them. I mean, listen,
the Colts said, what three are sixty three and seventy
yards against them? It isn't like they shut the Colts down.
They were just able to stop drives a big plays.
And I think that's their MO. I mean, I think
that's if you look at their defense, that's sort of
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their MO. I don't think secondary is great, you know,
I think they're They're linebacking group, especially the inside linebackers
against the run are just kind of okay. But they
can all make big plays and if they're making up
big plays. They can be really good. I just think
it's end realistic to believe that this is gonna be
a defense like you know they had and from say
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like two thousand, you know three to say two thousand
and nine, where they basically, you know, made you cry
to try and.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Get five yards.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
That's not just kind of defense. This defense is not
that defense where they can consistently weak in and weak
out make it really difficult on you to get four
or five yards. What they can do, however, is make
big plays. So if their stars show up, then their
defense is gonna be okay. If the stars don't show
up this week, have probably a lot like the Green
Bay game, where you know, where the Chargers kind of
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go up and down the field against them.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, I agree with all that. I dis agree with
Ben too that it's a slippery slope. I mean, they
got the six turnovers and only won by seven, and
there is a trend if they don't get turnovers, they
just don't win.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
What's your take on Ramsey moving to safety and the
acquisition to Dugger. They were tandem back there against the Colts,
and I guess they're gonna play there in La this
week and I just leave Ramsey at safety period.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
How about you?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, I would agree with that. You know one thing
I would say Mark about that. You know what your
one of your last statements there. If the Colts got
six turnovers, how many points would they had on the board.
You know, that's what that's the difference. I think if
the Colts Scott six turnovers their way, it probably had
been fifty plus points. And so, I mean, part of
the problem with the Steelers offense is, hey, it's a
little too conservative still because of the head coach and
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the and the offensive coordinator. But also I just don't
know that there's that much firepower now.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Ramsey to me.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Is obviously a really, really, really good safety. The only
thing I worry about is if he's playing safety, you've
got Joey Porter Junior probably missed cast as the number
one corner, and whoever gonna put out there, Pierre or
whoever it else you're gonna put out there.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
As done pretty good. Eckles has done pretty good, right,
But my thing with Porter is to kind of jump
ahead to that. I thought he did pretty good against
the Colts because they used him in press man, which
is his strength. I would keep him in pressman and
just live with the occasional flag.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's where he plays well.
But my point is if you take Ramsey out of
the equation, you know, I just feel like, if if
the front seven isn't getting home against the quarterback, I
don't know that your secondary's gonna be good enough. I
just don't know your corners are quite good enough.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I guess the charges it won't matter that much because
I don't know that they've got great receivers. Keenan Allen
is what he is. But the reality to me is
if you look at uh, you know they have to
get into a game where they're playing against some of
the better teams for the better quarterbacks. I mean, I
think obviously Jalen Ramsey is really good as your safety,
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but you know it is your corner position good enough.
That's that's the only question I have.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Mark, Yeah, you got to roll the dice one way
or the other. And I think Ramsey is better at
safety at this point in the corner, so that would
be the direction I'd go in.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I got to give Tom Win and Austin credit.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I love how they juggle the front seven against Indy
with that four to three look. You know, they sometimes
use three inside backers, sometimes three edge guys, and I
think Watt, Peyton, Wilson, Heinsmith all had their best games
of the year.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So I hope they keep doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I hope they don't retreat to what's safe.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Well, that's the question. There's a million dollar question mark.
Are they going to revert back to the same things
that they've done in the past, which you've heard, you know,
multiple people talk about how predictable they are, how easy
they are to dice, act, how easy they are to
understand what they're doing. I think one of the things
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they did in this game that they haven't done I
don't know in lot forever maybe is they basically played
a lot of nickel defense and stuff on first down
and second down. They were willing to basically say, we're
gonna mix up our looks, we're gonna do things differently,
and we're gonna, you know, we're a roll of dice
and basically think that we can stop your running game
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depending no matter what look we're in. And I thought
that was probably a big reason why they had so
much success.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Uh, what's your take on the LA game? LA's having
some trouble with tackles, some injuries. They went out and
got somebody though. But despite Herbert's excellence, which is fraught
with inconsistency, it seems like a game the Steelers could win,
and if they want to prove they were good enough
to not make a move at the deadline yesterday, to
my mind, they need to win.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think the artists play player for player,
they're probably better than the Chargers. The two offensive tackles
on the Chargers, actually they've lost three tackles, right, you know,
but but both of their starting tackles and then are
actually a plus one.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
They they don't they don't have a lot of firepower
on the outside. And so to me, I feel like
the Steelers should be able to do what they did
against the Colts, and even a better job, which is
shut down the run, get to Herbert, you know what
I mean, and make him make bad decisions, because we've
seen from him. When you get to him and you
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hit him around and knock him around a little bit,
and you hit him and all that other stuff, you know,
he's gonna make some bad decisions and throw the ball
for grabs at times. So to me, like I said,
I think the most important thing with them is if
their defense is able to get to Herbert, I thin't
gin it could be a really long day.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
For the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, the defenses. The Chargers defense is okay, it's
not it's not great, but it's not terrible. The Steelers
to be able to score enough points to win the game.
But again, if they can't get home to Herbert, he's
good enough that he could pick them apart, and and
and and really make it a long day for them.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Do you know what's what's gonna be funny?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Paul?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I think this Deelers are gonna win the division.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I think this win over Indy has enabled them to
keep Baltimore arms length and they can kind of bleed
out the division. And they better because I think only
one team from the AFC North is gonna make the playoffs.
But wouldn't it be ironic? That's not the word. Maybe
funny is the word. If they win the division and
Buffalo and Kansas City are both wild cards and thereby
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potential opponents, well, I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
There's a good chance that's gonna happen. I mean, that's
what's funny and they're a pretty good chances that could
happen where they're hosting you know, Kansas City, and you
know what, I don't really care, uh, you know who
they have and the fact they didn't go out and
they can move. If they host a healthy Kansas City team,
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they're going home in the first round. They're not gonna
be Patrick Mahomes. They're just not and they're probably not
gonna be Josh Allen either. And quite frankly, if they have,
you know, if it's Baltimore, that is like say, they're
the three things ball, the Moore's the sixth seed, and
Baltimore's fully healthy. I don't know that they're beating Lamar
Jackson either. I mean, I think it's really important.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It was really.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Important for them to make their offense better because at
the end of the day, I think their offense is
gonna have to win games in the playoffs and against
those three teams. I just don't see how it could happen.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Paul great stuff, will do it again next week.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Good job, all right, thanks my man, We'll see you soon.
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We got a lot to talk about. Sergey Morrishoff, the
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the President. He joined the team today because of an
injury to Tristan Jari. Worshoff has been burning it up
in the AHL got the goaltender of the month save
percentage of ninety three. And the debate I've been waging
on today's program is, even though it's Shilloffs's turn to
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play tomorrow night, when Washington visits and Muse and dubas,
they're all about hockey, but you gotta be a little
bit about show biz. You've gotta be a little bit
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to sell tickets. You've got to be a little bit
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going to do and where the team was headed. I'm
not saying Morishoff replicates that tomorrow night. In fact, you'd
like to see.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Him win, but I'd play him. I would have that
sense of the occasion.
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You got a lot of empty seats at these games,
not least on the weeknight.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Annanci.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Morishof's gonna play might not sell a lot of tickets,
but it might make the people who come to witness
come back after that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I know that was the case with Flurry. So to
be very blunts.
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All those old bastards at the Steeler game, they don't
know what to do if they're not at acressaw on
Sunday they just wither and die, some of them. I
think that happens there. But when you're trying to get
the people with you, when you're trying to get another
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Speaker 3 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:06):
And Sergey Morrishaw playing tomorrow night might do that at
least a little bit.
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I called him yesterday, I say, and should get the shot.
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But yeah, who knows. You could take a shot with
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Speaker 2 (17:40):
With that mind, let's bring on the two times Stanley
Cup champ from the Penguins Radio Network and Sports at Pittsburgh.
The old two niner Phil bork Borky Morishoff got called up.
Would you start him tomorrow night at home against Ov
his countryman. With OV sitting on six hundred and ninety
nine career goals, it sounds like a feature film.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Good afternoon, w M and yes, yes and double yes,
and not to correct you, but I think he's sitting
on seven ninety Wait a minute, yeah, eight ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, I can't that many?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, No, I know you lose track. You're just like
anything over six hundred it blows your mind up. But
they play against Saint Louis tonight, so we'll get him
on the back to back. Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
And yeah, if he doesn't go against Sat.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Louis, he might roll into Pittsburgh looking for number nine
hundred and yeah, that would just add to the drama.
You know, they have another Russian goaltender go up against
Ovie and try to hold him at that eight ninety
nine number. I just heard you. I just popped in
the car. I heard you talking about all the kind
of undercurrent reasons as far as butts in the seats
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and excitement and everything else. Because yeah, man, when people
are having the you know, the waffles in the morning
and drinking coffee around the breakfast table, you know, there's
a lot of people in Pittsburgh talking about Sergei Mirshoff.
His name has become well known and he's never played
the game for the Penguins yet, And but you know,
talking to people down in Wilsbury that he's not slowing down,
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that like, this guy's a real deal. What he did
in East Coast League and Wheeling is well documented. You
don't need me on here to tell you how he
absolutely destroyed that league and thought Okay, Well, the American
League is a different level. Well, he did it in
the American League too. He just absolutely is lightning on fire.
You mentioned he was goaltender of the Month in October in.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
The American League.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He's never lost the game in overtime or shootouts. His
numbers as far as you know, say percentage goals against
Mark or and if you even go to you know,
Elite Prospects dot com and look at his record when
he was sixteen, fifteen, fourteen thirteen, they're all the same Mark.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
This this kid is is I don't know how what
you want.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
To call him a protigy or what, but this is
not something new for him. He is he has really
dialed in in the goaltender position, and he is mature
beyond his years.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, I for sure would start him up.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I know that the rotation dictates otherwise that it should
be Shillof's, but mus and Doubas need to have a
sense of the occasion. It would remind me very much
of Flurry at eighteen in two thousand and three, forty
eight saves and stuffed the penalty shot despite a two
nil lost to Los Angeles. It was a coming out party.
You need to give moments a chance to happen. And
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I'm telling you, Borky ain't. No moment could have happened
even if more Shock plays great twelve thirty Saturday at
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
No. I agree, And you're right. You know, it's all
about whether we're talking about life or we're talking about sports.
When preparation meets opportunity, that's when great things happen. And
that's the thing. This kid has been preparing for this moment.
He's never got caught up in accolades or numbers or
any of that. He just goes about his business.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
It's a little sid like in the way he is.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He is all in with his preparation before games, after games,
the way he takes sure of his body, the things
he puts in his body, and how he recovers for
the next start for a kid as young as he
is at twenty one years of age. And you're right,
I don't think any moment would be too big for him.
I think he is again, he's so prepared for whatever
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you throw at him. You know, Kindles a little bit
like that too, Ben Kindle's a little bit like that too,
that he can't believe that these kids are eighteen twenty
one years of age and have this mind that works
at a different level than the average Joe of how
they absorb information and then how they are able to
take it and say, Okay, I can use this, this,
this and this, this is good for me. Okay, let
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me go play my game.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Well, speak of the Devil.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Just as exciting to me is Ben Kindle skating at
wing on Sid's line.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I feel like he's more of a center, but I feel.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like this is a good move for right now, and
I feel like Kindle and Sid might think the game
in similar fashion.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I agree, Uh it might, but just on the outside
looking in, look like almost by default, like, okay, well,
if we don't put Kendle there, who are we going
to put there that would would fit well? That maybe
can think the game on a Sid level. And I
don't know if there's in somebody else right now that
could be that plug and play. And his confidence has
to be at an all time high getting two goals
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in Toronto the other night, and the way that he
scored them, they're not excuse me goals. He goes to
the net and he knows, uh, he's got that quick
release and He's got incredible confidence without cockiness. And you know,
I think having Brian Russ on that line too, and
Russy's really developed into a great leader. So Sid could
talk to you, and you might be a little bit
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overwhelmed talking to Sid and just you know little things
that Sid, little hints he might give you. But then
if you have Rusty talking to you too at a
much different level. Uh, you know, it took Rusty a
while to figure out how the play was Sid. So
I think maybe Rusty could tell Ben Kindall a few
little tips and shortcuts on what works and just as
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importantly what doesn't work was Sid. And you have to admit,
Mark that the Kindle has that brain that functions at
a different level than most and the way he thinks
the game and the way he processes both things offensively
and defensively.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
We're talking to Phil Bark from the Penguins Radio Network
and sports Net Pittsburgh. Bork, I'm gonna go way off
the charts here, but bear with me. After the way
Kindall played on the power play in Toronto, he should
run it from that left half wall, and that's when
everybody's healthy. He's got more power play acumen in just
a short bit we've seen than anybody they got.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I can't disagree with you. He yeah, he just figures
it out. Mark, I just I don't know if i've seen.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
An eighteen year old kid. You know that. We didn't
hear that. We I mean, we heard really good things
about obviously eleventh overall, but you're right, he takes for
this given he doesn't try to force things. He's simplified things.
He's got that little it's a little curling drag. Mark,
it's a little it's so so it's he just changes
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the right and then he's got an unbelievable snap. I
don't know where his his stick flex is, but you
know he wears that number eighty one. He's a right
hand shot. It's it's a little phill like right where
it just jumps off the stick and all of a
sudden goaltenders are surprised that it's by him and he's
figuring out now that Okay, I could be that bumper guy.
We haven't seen him really unleashed one from the kind
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of the high bumper spot you know where Patrice Berground
used to be. Mark, Uh, you know, tj Oshie is
a few guys in the league that are really good
at that bumper guy. I think he can be that guy.
I think he's got that release, maybe not from forty
to forty five feet out, but maybe twenty five to
thirty thirty five feet out. He could be a goaltender
clean and he's got that that quick feet and a
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quick mind that are matched up with the feet to
make those decisions. Should I be on the flank, should
I be in front of the net, Should I be
the bumper guy? Should I go behind the net? Should
I flip flop with Gino with a flip flop with Sid.
I think that it's seamless for him because it's just instincts.
And again, he's prepared. He's prepared himself for this moment,
and he's not I don't know how he was brought up,
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but he's not overwhelmed by the opponent, by the venue,
by who he's playing against, and certainly who he's playing with.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, his parents were two pro soccer players, So yeah,
that part of it doesn't surprise me. And I want
to backtrack, Like I said, Kindle should run the power play.
And I'm sure some were shocked that I said that.
I said that because people are like well, sid and Gino,
but I know you agree sid In Gino and no
knock on them. They're not great power play players. They
get points on the power play, but they aren't classically
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great with the man advantage like you know how Mario
was or Gonchar was, where they just had it figured
out as good as SidD In Gino are five, I
don't think they've ever totally figured out the power play.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, and I think if if you be, if this
is where you're going, I'm gonna lean into it. Those
two together. I mean, we have seen brilliance between eighty
seven and seventy one, but it's it's not as regular
as you make a great example Gauntchar and Malkin on
the power play. Those are two peas in the pod.
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They thought exactly the same and it was it was
magical those years. It was absolutely magical and how they
worked it around. And then you you we even said
there too, right, But you bring in a guy like Kindle,
and you're right because the league doesn't really know about
Ben kindall, so he's really unpredictable to his opponents. But
I think because of his positioning, you know, how he
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shows his stick all those little things that he does
that he can kind of give those no look passes,
where again unpredictable to the opponent, predictable to his teammates.
I think you add in all those elements with high
guys like Sid and Gino that I think it can be.
And then also now it adds to his five on
five play with Rusty and Sid, because he'll be out
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there on the power play with them also.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And one thing that I was working toward, I think
you sense it. I'm glad Kindle's on Sid's line, so
Gino isn't. They tried that in Toronto. It failed miserably,
and let's be honest, it always does. I've never remembered
a game where those two playing together five on five
really stuck.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
No. I've mentioned it in the booth because at times
it's awkward that they look for each other. But it's
it's it's just not magical. It's just not it's not seamless,
it doesn't, it doesn't just organically happen. You know, if
they're out there four and four or even three on
three in overtime, you see more creativity between the two,
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but five on five you just don't see it as
much I can't give you a reason. I don't know why, Mark,
I'm made. I don't know if you even have a reason.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
No, I got no idea.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, it just doesn't seem to gel like you expected
to write.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
No, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
We always think it should work, but it never really
does work. Now, speaking of something that didn't work, how
about the third period of that game in Toronto, after
playing Toronto badly for the first forty minutes, how much
of a carryover will there be from that tragedy as
the Penguins move forward?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Good question, Yeah, because the Penguins started but seven tow
and one in their first ten games, and now they're
won two and one in the last four. The game
in Winnipeg preceding the Toronto game, with all all that
in the bag of chips, the Columbus game wasn't great
for the Penguins either, so you know, there's been some
leaky moments and they've got to dial it back in again.
(28:45):
But to get back to your specific question about the
Toronto game, I don't remember saying as dominant, and Holy Moses,
was that dominant in that second period? I mean Toronto
barely got a shot on goal any of the shot
that were registered were dribblers that came in on Tristan
Jari and then to see things just kind of like
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stand through the hour glass and you just could not
stop it. After the Matthews goal to start the third period.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
It just shows you how crazy sports can be.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's a shame that happened to the Penguins. You wish
it happened to somebody else and you could look at
it and say, hey, let's not let this happen to us,
But it did happen to us. So you can go
two ways with it, right Mark, You can completely unravel
and just go right in the crapper the rest of November,
or you can say, okay, wakey, wakey, that was enough
of that, and we're going to get back to playing
the way we played when we went seven to and one.
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We're going to bring the details back. We're gonna be
way better defensively, more consistent, because in that second period,
the things that really stood out to me where they
were moving their feet, everything was done with a purpose.
Even to dump the puck in. It was dumped to retrieve,
not dump the chase. They want every fifty to fifty battle.
They were first to every loose puck. Just just go
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back to those things. When you play Washington tomorrow, have
that great start, because that's the other part. They talked
about how crappy their start was against Winnipeg, and that's
something that's easily correctable, and they did that against Toronto.
Let's see if they can do it against Washington tomorrow
night and get back on the tracks. Because you look
at where this is crazy. I just looked at the
standings here, Mark, it's thirteen teams. It's not thirteen teams
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between sixteen points and eighteen points. You're one week from
being down in the basement or one week being clear
number one in the National Highy League. It's crazy what's
going on in the league.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Right now, Bourky.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
In a weird way, I'm looking forward to seeing Danton
Heinen and Ryan Graves play after their recall for Wilkes too,
you know, kind of recycled vets. Heinen was leading the
Little Penguins and scoring and played well with Cleyven and
Don there as a line, if memory serves in, Graves
got to know he's at the last chance saloon. I mean,
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I didn't expect to see him all year, but opportunities knocking.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, let's start with Heine first. I think we all
like Heinel, but we're not in the on the good
guy business. We're in the win hockey games business. And
that's gonna be humbling for him. Again. Talking to some
people down in wilts they said that both were really
good soldiers. Yeah, and Kirk kirk McDonald down there and
one of his press conferences say hey, let's let's just
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get the cards on the table here. Let's not know
smoke and mirrors here. These guys are not happy to
be here. They wanted to get the heck out of here, right,
And so yeah, not only with Heinel leaning leading Wilsbury
and scoring, he was tied for the league lead in scoring.
So good on you, Dann Heine. And they didn't drag
his lip across the ice. He pulled up his socks
and started putting biscuits in the basket. So I'm not
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worried about him. He's a great pro, great teammate. He'll
do whatever you ask him to do.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
And being the guy.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
That got singled out because of the competition in training camp,
that's gonna be humble. And hopefully you put a rocket
ship up his backside as far as Gravy. I think
if Ryan Graves just starts playing like a big Richard
if you know what I mean short for Richard, I
think other things will start to fall into place for him.
He's six foot five, two hundred and twenty five pounds.
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He is a mountain of a man, and I think
if he just kind of kind of wants to just
kind of meander and tiptoe through the tulips and just
kind of not make a mistake, just be safe, just
be okay, I don't think things work out well for him.
I think if he again be a difference maker, that's
what Dan Muse is saying. That's what he wants from guys.
If you don't end up on the score sheet, do
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something in the hockey game that changes the momentum, and
you walk out of the rink and go holy man.
Ryan Graves was unbelievable tonight. He didn't end up on
the score sheet, but man, he was a major factor
in the Penguins winning the hockey game. That's what you
need from Ryan Graves.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Here's the other thing that boats may be well.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I think Dan Muse's system is just a bit more
structurally defensive and a bit more simple defensively that it
might suit Ryan Graves because in his previous NHL stops
that was the case, that type of method utilized, and
he was much better there.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, both in Colorado and New Jersey. You're right, he
and also he was he was paired with top guys, right,
he was part of the top pairing because he was
there kind of the Brian Doomot, you know, the stay
at home guy, just play it safe, right, And so
now a little bit more is being asked out of
him here in Pittsburgh. And listen, this is a weak
you know, excuse for him if I'm making it that,
(33:38):
you know, the the change and the system and all that,
and then you know he got behind it and he
was reading his press clippings and all the negativity in
town about him. Forget about that. Don't look at any
social media gravy. He can play the game. We've seen
good moments from Ryan Graves, but we've seen some bad moments,
and that people want to remember the bad. I think, listen,
(33:59):
with damn you coming in here, everybody wanted to clean
sheet of ice, right, I think as Penguin fans, media,
everybody alike, Let's give the guy a chance, another chance here, Okay,
because that's what life's all about about second and third chances.
All right, maybe he's gonna come back and be that
player that we want him to be. We hope. So
he's a good guy, he's a good teammate. You pull
(34:21):
for people like this that, you know where everybody was
crapping on him, and now he's got a second opportunity
with the same team to redeem himself and be one
heck of a defense because we were gonna really need
him here with all the injuries we have.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Borky, you are the man. Great stuff. We'll see at
the rink tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Look forward to it. Double.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I'm enjoyed our time together. This was good hockey talk up.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Next as mark anything dial now dial white this second
eight three three four one two WXDX eight three three
four one two wxdx or leave a talk back via
the microphone icon at the iHeartMedia appe X.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
It's the Woodie Show Show Mornings at six. Precocious and
full of wonderment. What's that sound? That's the sound of
the X at one. Thanks to Borky for joining me.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Also, I gotta give Wes Clark the Penguins chief Scott
some credit. He's I guess his title technically is Director
of Player Personnel. He's made some great calls on draft picks,
not at least Ben Kendle. A lot of people thought
Ben Kindle at eleven overall was a reach, but Wes
(35:36):
Clark knew.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
And we see already how special this kid's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Uh and maybe even more so tomorrow night when he
jumps onto Sidney Crosby's line when Washington visits.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
So full credit to Wes Clark.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Let's go to Antonio. Antonio, ask Mark anything.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Hey, Mark, I'll get the Hounds game on on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
And I was just after watching that penalty shout out.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I was thinking to myself, I'm going to carry that
feeling with me for the rest of my life because
it would just sell electric. So I wanted to ask
you what type of soccer moment would like Do you
have that carry that you'll carry with you for the
rest of your life?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Winning the European Cup in two thousand and five when
Liverpool trail d Acmulian three zero at halftime and scored three
goals in nine minutes to not the game up and
then one in penalty kicks. I watched that game with
my mom, who was very ill. Never flinch, never gave up,
never thought we were out of it, And yeah, I
(36:35):
will carry that with me for sure for the rest
of my life.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Let's go to Justin. Justin ask Mark anything?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Hey what I'm Mark?
Speaker 6 (36:44):
So I lived with two British guys in New York
and they've been getting me into severe leg I'm trying
to become a Villa fan, but I don't know what's
gonna take.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
They're kind of stuck in the mid table.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
So thoughts, pros, cons opinions.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You think, I think you're overthinking it. I mean, if
you like Villa, root for Villa. They're solid team, great tradition,
former European Cup champions, I think in nineteen eighty, good
team right now, good manager with Unai Emery.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Don't overthink things.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Plus, if you wait to see who like the best
team is, that just makes you a front runner. If
Bill was the first team that caught your fancy, that's
who you should go with.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, but they're having trouble scoring goals. It's a little frustrating.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Well, then you should pretty then you shouldn't be a
football fan at all. You're overthinking it too much. Thanks
for Colin. Let's go to a talkback.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Super genius, Eric and Toledo.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Hey, I thought demonte Kz was just released from Cleveland.
Would you consider bringing him back to shore up the
safety position? Thanks?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know, it's funny I thought the same thing. He's
a really dirty player. He got that four game suspension. Remember,
gets a lot of personal foul penalties. Ein'ight, real greats.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
But if I had to pick between him Chuck Clark
won Thornhill and Pepper's, I might pick him on te Casey.
I'm not saying it'd be any well, he would be
better than these guys. I don't know how much better.
I don't know if it's worth it because he's, you know,
like I said, lots of flags, real dirty player.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Let's go to a talkback.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Hey, double m uh. Just curious.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
When you're in traffic, what what's your method?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Do you stay in one lane no matter what, or
do you try to beat the traffic do you try
to outsmart it, jump lanes, try to go with the flow.
What's your approach?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I generally stay in one lane unless one lane stopped
in one lanes moving I mean, duh. But on my
way home, I always try to get in the left
plane because that's the line I got to be in
eventually to turn to take my exit to go to
twenty eight norths which ultimately takes me home. I'm talking
about coming through the tunnels. Well, speaking to which I
(38:52):
had a road rage incin today. I was going up
Pig Hill on twenty eight that goes to my old
neighborhood in montroy where I grew up, where my bank is,
and some old guy in a truck blocked it's a
two way street, even though it's very narrow and at
the bottom.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
He was trying to get out.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
He had the whole thing blocked while he waited for
the light, so I was sitting in the middle of
the street. Finally I just put up alongside him. I
go bleep, and he bleep, bleep, bleep, Get the f
out of the street. He goes, what am I supposed
to do? And I go it's a two lane road.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
M effort.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
He threatened me and I like almost want to get
out of my car, and he just left, which is
good because well, no, he wouldn't have killed me.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
It would have been two really old guys fighting and
I didn't want to fight. Let's go to a talk back.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
That's one of those songs are in here, and you
just cannot.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Turn songs that I can't turn off. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
That's That's an odd question, but a good one, because
there are plenty of songs I've heard too much, like
like I've heard Stairway to Heaven and Freebird too much,
so I won't always leave.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Them on when they come on. H ask me.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Basically, my favorite song is like I mean, I don't know,
you know the music I use between breaks on this show.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Draw your own conclusions.
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