December 26, 2025 • 33 mins
Mark discusses the latest news in regard to the DK Metcalf situation and talks Steelers Browns with Gerry Dulac.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's the holiday season, ho ho ho, and everything is
coming up. Dk, excuse me to Kaylon. The Steelers are
nine and six and in the ascension and of one
three straight and really could win a playoff game or
maybe even two. And everybody is talking about the Kaylin
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Zacharias Metcalf and the blue haired guy in Detroit who
held a press conference today. Cam was talking about DK Metcalf,
Rogers was talking about DK Metcalf. The TV shows are
debating DK Metcalf. All the x jocs are supporting DK Metcalf,
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and it's a bigger distraction for the Steelers than George
Pickens could ever dream of. The blue haired geek, like
I said, he held a freaking press conference today.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Dude's a genius. He's gonna get paid.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And let's be honest, if the Steelers Pope or Steelers
Jesus or whoever one of them local jokers, if they
had heckled Jamar Chase and got him suspended, he'd be
a local folk hero. The Kaitlin Metcalf has suspended two
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games and should be. The Steelers can clinch even before
their game at Cleveland on Sunday. If Baltimore loses at
green Bay tomorrow nights and green Bay's clinched the playoff spot,
so ain't good on the play for Jordan Loves.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Banged up, definitely ain't gonna played.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But Lamar Jackson is doubtful for that game as well.
It'd be if Baltimore lost tomorrow night, because these Steelers
don't need a chance to have anything go wrong. Cleveland
is kind of a trap game, kind of with Miles
Garrett coming for the sack record and Chador playing good
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once in a while. But the Steelers almost certainly win
at Cleveland on Sunday. This is the mark Men show.
You like it, you love it, you want more of it.
The debate with the Steelers is who should they rest
at how much once they clinch. Well, if Baltimore loses
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on Saturday, I'd play Rogers for half at Cleveland and
then shut him down to the playoffs. Same with cam
same with Ramsey. Anybody who's injury prone like Highsmith, I
guess I mean somebody gotta play. Can't rest everybody what
is practicing. Looks like he might be back soon, unless,
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of course, they stab him in the other lung.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's an old team. The Steelers it needs.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Rest more than rhythm clinching asap clinching before taking the
field at Cleveland Sunday. That would help a lot. I
haven't changed my position on de Kaylon Metcalf. He's one
hundred percent in the wrong and got what he deserved.
I have people saying, what would you do, I'd embarrassed
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to smuck with words like I have done, or have
them ejected from the premises. And you got all the
nerds out there saying, oh, I'd slug him, but you wouldn't.
The split out there between pusillanimous and legit is about
ninety nine to one. And the blue hair goof, Yeah,
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he's an attention whore, But is he any different than
the Steelers Pope or Steelers Jesus at the games, in
the parking lot at Acrashore, the face painters, all those nutbars.
Is the blue haired goof and Detroit really any different?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
If you want to go further back, Franco's Italian Army,
same thing.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't believe the.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Local locals of that ilk are any different than the
blue haired goof in Detroit, except the player who was
never dumb enough to engage like the Kaelin zacharias Metcalf
did with the blue haired Goof. So that's what we
got on a Friday. I'm at the Schoolhouset, Tavern and
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Clarridge for the Steelers and Browns on Sunday one pm kickoff,
so please come and join me.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's insane with the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
There's a lot of hope, justifiably so in even more craziness.
I got a lot else going on. The Pirates signed
another guy o'hearne. He's not bad. Penguins are in freefall
and have lost the plot. Got drubbed at Toronto Tuesday
by Maple Leafs team that started the game only vaguely interested.
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So there is plenty to talk about. Oh Tom got
fired again, but he'll be back on Monday. So call now,
get your calls in now. Eight three three four one
two wxdx. That's eight three to three four one two
w xdx. You got to give Duck Codgees credit. Yesterday
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at halftime of the Minnesota in Detroit game, he was
riding on the field in a car with his wife,
the country star at Lady Wilson. Duck Codges might be
the worst quarterback to ever play in the NFL, ever
start a game, certainly, although hey, Kenny Pickett given a
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run for his money, but Duck Hodges is undoubtedly the
king of the suitcase pimps. We keep debating who the
Steelers can and can't beat in the playoffs, but who
can tell? Now it's over two weeks away. We know
the games in Pittsburgh. We know every team that's going
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to be in the playoffs is pretty good. We know
every team has a very good quarterback except Houston, which
has a great defense.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It is so so wait and see.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
If I could pick an opponent, I'd pick the LA Chargers.
Herbert's been dinged up. Harbaugh cannot smart himself their coach,
and having beaten the Steelers at LA could work against
the Chargers because the playoffs are different, and this is
here in front of an hostile crowd in very likely
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cold weather LA. I mean, they don't have much home support,
but there is a profound difference in the weather. So
if I could pick one team to play in the
wildcard round, it'd be the LA Charges. How about Aaron
Rodgers brought off road vehicles for all the offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean, I know, it's just monopoly money.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The quarterbacks who have played in the league as long
as Rogers and accomplished what he has.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But still that is extremely generous.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You put out that much money, it ain't no money
no matter how much money you do gots.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Rogers also said.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Something I found hilarious when he commented on the DK
Metcalf situation. He said that fans wouldn't have the guts
to say that stuff face to face. Well, the guy
in Detroit, Aaron, he did exactly that. He said what
he said right to declin. Metcalf's face got popped for it,
and now he's going to be rich, and if he
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gets rich, lots of others gonna try it. So my
suggestion to NFL players who have rabbit ears is to
wear earplugs. Obviously, we know a lot now about this
dope in Detroit, and he is a dope, but I
just don't think he'd done nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Name's Ryan Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
He's been a season ticket holder at Forbes Field in
the front row for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Those tickets ain't cheap.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
People sitting around him have said he never goes too far,
never says anything out of line, and it's pointed out
that Ford Field security ain't far away at any point
during games, because again he's sitting in the first row.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He's just lot and annoying.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
He does the full name gimmick, calls the player by
what he refers to is their government name, in this case,
to Caitlin zacharias Metcalf. Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He definitely baited Metcalf, but so what.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
He has a prior history with Metcalf, but so what.
At the press conference he emphasized to use no racial
slurs or hate speech, and he wants to Kaylan to
say that and clear that up because I guess he's
being harassed, his family's being harassed. I think it's tremendous
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that at the press conference he didn't drop the gimmick
he called him to kaalen.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
The bottom line is, there's not one good reason to
not let this guy go to games, to ban him
from Ford Field, not one good reason the NFL needs fans.
Fans like this are invaluable. I bet Detroit wishes they
had a thousand more like him. If the stands are
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empty and the TVs don't get turned on, there is
no NFL. If decaelon Metcalf doesn't you know who does
in his place somebody else. The players are the most
disposable part of the big time sports equation, although all
those ex jocks with mics will tell you anything but
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to repeat, there's not one good reason to ban this
guy from games, and there's not one good reason to
feel starry for athletes. They're entitled, narcissistic brats who've been
placed on a pedestal since high school, junior high, heck,
maybe even Pop Warner football. So f them, F the players,
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f the Caitlin Zacharias Metcalf. I'm not saying this guy
in Detroit, this Ryan Kennedy. He ain't no hero, but
he didn't do nothing wrong. He didn't do anything wrong.
We got Jerry Doulac at the bottom of the hour.
I'm mark mad and get your calls in now eight
three three four one two w XDX.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Bring.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I'm not sure what to say about the Penguins. They
went to Toronto on Tuesday. The Leafs suck. Like I
said earlier, they appeared to be only vaguely interested. But
Toronto did a bunch of breakaways in one sixty three,
a couple of empty netters. It was really, you know,
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four to three late when they started putting through the
empty net, but still a depressing loss for the Penguins.
That's nine out of ten that they lost. And Dan Muse,
the rookie head coach, he's lost the plot.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm beginning to wonder if he's good enough to coach
in the National Hockey League. He's supposed to be there
to develop.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
The Kevin Hayes line played more than the Ben Kindle
line of Toronto. The bummy old Vets played more than
the kids. That was not the mission statement of the
team before the season started. Like I just said, it
was supposed to be about developments, but not to develop
Kevin Hayes. That's not the project. Kevin Hayes about as
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good as he going to be in it ain't so good.
I'm not sure what the project is supposed to be
anymore that that nine to four and two start threw
them off.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It was fool's gold.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
They got the smell and making the playoffs in their nostrils,
and they've left everything up since in terms of decision making.
The goaltending is rotten, the defensive corps is rotten. Nothing
is going good for the Penguins right now. So at Chicago,
on Sunday. The sid trade stuff is kicking up again,
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not that I think they're going to do it, not
that I think he's going to demand it, but it's
kicking off because the Canadian media just couldn't wait for
it to kick up again, couldn't wait for the Penguins
in a bad patch so they could try to talk.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
A lie into existence.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Maybe the Penguins could keep losing and yet get Gavin McKenna,
the Penn State get in the draft, and by the way,
his draft stock is supposedly plummeting.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, by plummeting, I mean from.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
The consensus first pick overall to maybe third or fourth.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But I think he goes first overall.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
His talent's overwhelming, and if he's not dominating like had
been hoped at Penn State, that's only because he's seventeen
years old and he's playing against men at the college level.
That's why he went there to be challenged more than
he was getting challenged in juniors.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
He shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Penalized via draft status for accepting a harder task. As
for the Buckos, they got another decent player, Ryan O'Hearn
first base, an outfield or left handed hitter. He's okay,
a solid bat seventeen home runs last year with Baltimore
and San Diego. Slash line of two seventy six, three
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fifty three eighty seven ops of seven thirty six got
him for two years twenty nine mil.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Pirate's overpaid a little a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The Pirate's gotta so Lyle and o'hearne and maybe Griffin
the phenom. Maybe he's ready. So that's not a bad
off season to date. It's probably not enough to make
him contend. It's probably not even quite yet five hundred.
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But what they're doing is encouraging now. By the same token,
I hate to canonize the Pirates because they're finally doing
what they should have all along. We're gonna have Jerry
Dulac gone in just a few moment. Whence the Steelers.
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Just what's going on now? It's wild, isn't it? The
DK thing. We're gonna talk about it for weeks for weeks,
and a Baltimore wins tomorrow and the games means something
for the Steelers, then their passing game is absolutely crippled.
They got Adam Thielen as the number one wide out
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all because the Kaylin Zacharis Metcalf couldn't act like an adult,
couldn't ignore some dope giving him a hard time. Just unbelievable, unbelievable.
How many people are defending the Kaylin. How many people
want the fan banned for life? And he didn't do
nothing wrong, didn't do nothing wrong. And I guarantee you,
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I guarantee you. Remember Harrison and Ocho Senko said they
communicated with DK and he said that the fan used
a racial slur and called his mother the sea word.
I guarantee Harrison and Ocho, I think Goo never communicated
with him, just made that stuff up because it sounded
logical to them. And that's the problem when you give
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an athlete a podcast, particularly athletes who went too bright.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They're not playing by the rules of journalism.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
They don't think it's a big deal to make something
up that sounds logical to them.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But I would bet they made that up up. Next,
Jerry do Lack.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
One oh five nine Steelers play at Cleveland Sunday.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We don't know if it's gonna matter or not. Joining
me not to talk.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Black and Gold football From the Post Gazette.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's Jerry Doulac. Jerry is a good or bad.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
If Baltimore loses tomorrow when the Steelers clinch, is it
good to have two meaningless games right before the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Well? Yeah, I don't think the meaningless part matters. I
will tell you Mark, I think if they if they
don't have to play a meaningless game in Cleveland they clinched,
that's all the good for them, because then how to
eliminate any potential praftfalls. So but I get your point
because but I say this, Mark, you know they will
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still play their veteran players now won't play in the
full game, might not play more than a half now
the last game. Maybe they'll sit down Cam. And it's
possible they would sit down Aaron Rodgers. But I will
tell you this, and more than likely they will. But
if the game in Cleveland is meaningless, I think you'll
still see these guys play. And I could tell you
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Aaron Rodgers wants to play. They understand that they are
playing well, and maybe more importantly, he is playing well,
and I know he doesn't want to disrupt that. So
you're not going to see Aaron Rodgers. If the Ravens
lose tomorrow night, you're not going to see Aaron Rodgers
not play again till the postseason. That's not going to happen.
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So Mike Tomlin never believes in these extended layoffs. So
I think you might be surprised how much some of
these guys play and maybe get rotated more and maybe
come out earlier than normal. But he will, he will
play them, with the possible exception of Cam and to
some degree Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
How is the Steelers running game resuscitated out of nowhere?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Jerry?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, you know, Mark, It's easy for me to say
the offensive line, and that's the big reason. And yet
they've had injuries there, so you can't point to continuity,
which they always say is a big key to the
success of the offensive line, because they've had different left tackles,
they've had different left guards, and so that rotation of
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players there. Obviously you can't sit here and say they
have that continuity. But those guys who have stepped in,
you know, and and Dylan Cook in particular has been
Mark for a guy who's never started an NFL game
and it started the last two, has been outstanding. And
where that comes from, I mean, who knows, who knows?
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And the fact that he did that the last game
without Isaac Saamalo. You know, when a player has a
veteran like Sayamalo next to him, that makes the you know,
makes the adjustment just a little bit easier. But to
not have that veteran like that for the last game
and still play as well as you did. You know,
those those runs by Jalen Warren, those touchdowns, you know
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those toss plays, the one off the left side, I mean,
my goodness, Mark, you and I could have run through
that whole untouched. So that that's in its most basic form,
you have to credit the line. But you know, I
mean Jalen Warren. You know he's had he's you know games,
not the big yardage games because that was the season high,
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but we've seen him, you know, breakoff runs with his power.
And what can you say about Kenny Gamewell, Mark, to me,
other than Aaron Rodgers, you can make a case that
he could be the team MVP. To me, it's Aaron Rodgers,
Jalen Ramsey, and then Kenny Gamewell for all the big
plays he has made and how well he has.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Played without Kaph for these two games. How do the
Steelers adjust on offense? What's the game plan? What's the
depth chart going to be at wideout?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Well, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious what you're
going to see. You're going to see even more of
Adam Feelin and Marcus vald of Scantling. Even though they
played a lot more last game than they did the
previous game, They've played a lot. I'm surprised how many
snaps they've actually played, especially feeling who's coming in cold.
You know, we saw last year they bring in Mike
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Williams and Mark. Mike Williams averaged seventeen snaps a game. Well,
Adam Feelin played more than that on really one day's practice.
He played twenty five for his first game. You know,
obviously Roman Wilson will be activated. But I think the
one thing I don't want to say that's in their favor,
but certainly the one thing that will help is all
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the personnel groupings that Arthur Smith has used to the
point that you know, we've all wondered and complained and
we're puzzled by you know, okay, where is John hu
Smith who was part of a big trade, Where is
Pat Fryar moved? And so you know you're using Darnell
Washington more and so I think, you know, look at
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what they did with Scottie Miller last week, two really
big catches on third and fourth down. So I think
the fact that they have spread the ball around all year.
Kenny Gamwells their leading receiver. I'm not gonna sit here
and say it's not going to hurt him, but I
think the way they have usial life to all these people,
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you're probably just gonna seem more the same. You know,
on Sunday you.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Mentioned Rogers is the MVP, and I tend to agree
with that. And I've said this before about Rogers Jerry.
I don't feel like he's.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Doing a ton.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
He's not spectacular, but he's doing less extremely well.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I think it's fair, Mark, But we won't take away
the fact that, you know, in two of the last
three games he's had his highest yardage totals of the season,
even though it doesn't seem like it, but that's because
there have been so many big pass plays, big yardage plays,
and so that has certainly helped. But the thing that
I see, and I've seen it since the Buffalo game,
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where he looked, you know, he looked like a guy
who was playing with a cast and had missed the
previous game and just seemed I don't want to say befuddled,
because that's not fair to him. But what you have
seen since then, Mark, is he is in complete control
of that offense. And it's apparent by just watching him.
And so you know, his December record is uncanny. You
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know since twenty nineteen, Mark, I went back and looked
this up. He's twenty and three and those three losses
were all last year with the Jets. So this is
a guy even though he started going into his mid
to late thirties and now in this forties, he has
played better as the season has gone on. His record
indicates that, and that's his credit. Even with the Jets
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last year, even though they lost three games of December,
his stats the last six games, his mobility, everything, the
last six game is actually what convinced the Steelers that, hey,
this guy's not slowing down at all, and we're seeing
that there's no sign that this guy is forty two
years old.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
We're talking to Jerry Doulack at the Post Cauzette. He's
brought to us by bud Light. Easy to drink, easy
to enjoy. What's Cleveland got going. Jerry Schador has been
up and down. I guess he's been Okay, Garrett's going
for the sack record. There's some nice sidebars for this
game Sunday, whether it's important or not.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Mark, I don't know that Cleveland has anything going for
him except they did play They did play the Bills
close last week. The one thing they do have is
their defense, and that has been, you know, for the
most part, pretty good all year. And of course that's
that's highlighted by Miles Garrett. So but you know, I
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mean Shador Sanders. You know, he might do some things
and then you see, you see how he just plays
like a guy who you know, makes rookie mistakes and
tends to play out of control. You know. So I
didn't think the Browns were this bad, to be honest,
But it all revolves around the decisions they made a quarterback, Mark,
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and here to me, how about this this? The cruelest
irony of all would be if the game means nothing
and Aaron Rodgers doesn't play the whole game, which he won't.
If the game means nothing, The cruelest irony will be
if Miles Garrett sets the NFL sack record by sacking Mason.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Rudolph after that thing back in twenty nineteen, swinging the helmet.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
At right, right, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I've been wondering if the Steelers, if the game's meaningless,
just might never drop back to pass and try to
deny Garrett that sack. I mean, I'm kidding, of course,
but that's that's fun to think about.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Isn't it.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yes, it is. And and of course Mason Rudolph wouldn't
let that happen anyhow, I'm sure you'd just throw it
the second, the second, even thought Miles Garrett was closed.
How about how about the old Green Bay Packer quarterback
laying down for Michael Strahan, Oh far right the record? Yeah,
you don't think this old Green Bay Packer quarterback would
lay down and set let Miles Garrett said the record
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would do? No, I I do a lot of a
lot of cruel storylines in play, No.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, no question.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Hey, that that's that might be the most fun thing
about the game, the things we just mentioned. Jerry, who
do you think the Steelers would most prefer to play
in the wild card round? At least prefer because that's
certainly a big debate now that it looks almost certainly
like they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
In I've kind of I'm not gonna sit here and
tell you I've pondered it a great deal, but I
have thought about it, and to me, you know, I'm
going to assume obviously Denver is going to win the
division of course in the West, and you know, Buffalo,
as good as Buffalo is at home and as well
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as they're playing now there, they just don't seem to
be the same team on the road. And we know
what the Bills have done to the Steel lately. The
Texans offense doesn't scare me. Their defense is good to me.
I mean, I would think, you know, possibly the Chargers
would be would be the best bet to to get
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them here where you have a chance to advance. And
then after that, I would say the Texans, you know,
Jacksonville should win that division. I shouldn't say should, but
looks like they will and so and then and then
if Buffalo doesn't catch New England, then they would be
the third team that I would that I think they
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would probably least like to see. So, you know, assuming
those are the three wild cards, that's kind of that's
kind of the way I look at it now.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Jerry.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You reported a while back to t J. Watt was
expected to play again this season. Now he's been practicing,
do you have any further timetable for his return. Uh.
I'd like to see him get some game action in
before the playoff, as opposed to resting him.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It'd be different if he had never sat.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But but but nonetheless, I think if he can play,
he played off to at least a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Mark, I agree with you, and in him wanting to
I would think that he might want to. Yes, I
said that he would be back before the end of
the season, and I said last week that he would
return to practice this week, which of course he did.
But I don't I I did not. I don't want
to say I did not expect him to play in Cleveland.
I did not know if he would play in Cleveland.
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And my guess is he will not play in Cleveland.
You know, Mark, it's it's kind of what. I don't
know this. This would be a factor. But with all
the buzz about Miles Garrett and everything you know, does TJ.
Watt want to get caught up in that comparison with
with Miles Garrett in this game? I mean as you
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know who knows. I mean, that's as crazy as it sounds.
But he's physically cleared to play. But you know, I
I I'm just going to give a little deference to
what his brother JJ said last week that you know,
he wants to be sure that he in a focus
on being healthy. Well, I mean he is cleared to play.
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But whether he plays or not in Cleveland, like I said,
I'm not expecting him to, but I'm with you. I
think maybe maybe play a little bit in Baltimore. Then again,
what shocked me at all because we saw what TJ.
Watt did when he missed all of training camp and
came in in that first game and was, you know,
balls on fire. So we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, I think that if he plays at Cleveland, even
though him and Garrett and ever on the field, that
comparison would be impossible to avoid. Then again, he's going
to be there in some capacity. And maybe it's just
not important. But I'll tell you what is important, Jerry
is the Steelers. For example, at Detroit at Baltimore, they
got all the calls, everything a referee decided that was
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big went their way. Now, don't get me wrong, I
think the calls were proper, but is the team taken
on a bit of a team of destiny feel because
of that?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, Mark, I think the thing that people forget is
on that final drive, three straight call slash plays went
against them. That catch that looked like it hit the
ground went against them. That pass interference penalty against Kyle Duggart,
which was Man, you could have flipped the coin on
that one. And then and then what was the third one? Mark?
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There were three consecutive plays.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Oh, there was the Darnell Washington OPI as well.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, no, yeah, but there were three in a row,
and I'm forgetting what it was, but there were three
plays in a row that kind of went against them.
Shame on me for not remember what that third one is.
And so it would have been easy for the Steelers
to be frustrated at that point in thinking, Okay, what's
going on here on the road. You know that these
calls weren't going in their favor. But yeah, I mean, hey,
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that penalty, that flag was thrown right away on Amna
Saint Brown on that last play. What I don't understand
is the way the officials handled it. Mark. When there's
any penalty, all they do is call the penalty. They
don't recap the play that was negated because of the penalty,
and why they did that in that instance is still
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beyond me. And I'm not sure why the official or
New York failed to felt compelled to explain, Well, it
was a touchdown, however there was past interference. I still
don't get why that happened. That's what was most puzzling
to me after all that delay.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well one other weird thing too, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And this just isn't in that game of Detroit, but
across the league, where are all the opis coming from.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's like somebody sent out a memo.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, and I'm sure you know, hey, look this is
nothing new, and I'm sure it happens a lot. I'm
sure the Steelers were probably alerting the officials, say steep
and high on fourteen. He's pushing off every play, and again,
that's nothing new, and maybe that's what happened. I don't
know that, Mark, but you're right, you're seeing it because hey,
I mean, it happens a lot. It happens a lot,
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and I'm surprised as we have gone along that it's
not been called more because you can call that almost
as much as you could call past interference on every play,
no question.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Jerry has always great input. Enjoy the game. We'll talk
next week.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Mark, Thank you. Happy Holidays to you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Happy Holidays.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's Jerry Delucke, brought to us by bud Light Up
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told about the DK Metcalf situation.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
One five to nine.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Jerry called back the third call in a series of
three that went against the dealers at Detroit was at
high Smith tripping call Athough. I thought he very clearly
tripped him. In fact, Hi Smith reacted as soon as
he tripped him, as if he knew he tripped him
in A flag was forthcoming.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
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Speaker 1 (31:54):
Brought to us by our good friends at Shandorovid Shandorovich
and Fisherman. Now with Tom fired, it's still time the trifecta.
It's three lies told about the DK Metcalff situation. One
It's been said the blue haired guy got ejected in
the past.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Not true. DK Metcalf kicked up a fuss last.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Year when the guy got under his skin when Seattle
visited ford Field. But dude did not get ejected. Two
that the fan use a racial slur and the C
word when addressing Metcalf this past Sunday, he did not
No one besides James Harrison and Chad Ocho Sinko said
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that they got false information or just made it up.
And certainly there's been a lot of assumption, which I'll
get to in a little bit. And number three, Aaron
Rodgers said, fans wouldn't heckle face to face, wouldn't say
that stuff to a guy's face, But the blue haired
guy did exactly that at Ford Field. What ain't Rogers
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seen the video? Does he think DK smacked the guy
via a zoom call?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Uh uh?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
The trifecta brought to list by Danny's Peacher and Hugies
en route eighty eight in Bethel Park. We got Tim
Benz this coming hour. It's de Mark Madden showing one
oh five nine
It's the holiday season, ho ho ho, and everything is
coming up. Dk, excuse me to Kaylon. The Steelers are
nine and six and in the ascension and of one
three straight and really could win a playoff game or
maybe even two. And everybody is talking about the Kaylin
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Zacharias Metcalf and the blue haired guy in Detroit who
held a press conference today. Cam was talking about DK Metcalf,
Rogers was talking about DK Metcalf. The TV shows are
debating DK Metcalf. All the x jocs are supporting DK Metcalf,
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and it's a bigger distraction for the Steelers than George
Pickens could ever dream of. The blue haired geek, like
I said, he held a freaking press conference today.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Dude's a genius. He's gonna get paid.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And let's be honest, if the Steelers Pope or Steelers
Jesus or whoever one of them local jokers, if they
had heckled Jamar Chase and got him suspended, he'd be
a local folk hero. The Kaitlin Metcalf has suspended two
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games and should be. The Steelers can clinch even before
their game at Cleveland on Sunday. If Baltimore loses at
green Bay tomorrow nights and green Bay's clinched the playoff spot,
so ain't good on the play for Jordan Loves.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Banged up, definitely ain't gonna played.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But Lamar Jackson is doubtful for that game as well.
It'd be if Baltimore lost tomorrow night, because these Steelers
don't need a chance to have anything go wrong. Cleveland
is kind of a trap game, kind of with Miles
Garrett coming for the sack record and Chador playing good
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once in a while. But the Steelers almost certainly win
at Cleveland on Sunday. This is the mark Men show.
You like it, you love it, you want more of it.
The debate with the Steelers is who should they rest
at how much once they clinch. Well, if Baltimore loses
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on Saturday, I'd play Rogers for half at Cleveland and
then shut him down to the playoffs. Same with cam
same with Ramsey. Anybody who's injury prone like Highsmith, I
guess I mean somebody gotta play. Can't rest everybody what
is practicing. Looks like he might be back soon, unless,
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of course, they stab him in the other lung.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's an old team. The Steelers it needs.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Rest more than rhythm clinching asap clinching before taking the
field at Cleveland Sunday. That would help a lot. I
haven't changed my position on de Kaylon Metcalf. He's one
hundred percent in the wrong and got what he deserved.
I have people saying, what would you do, I'd embarrassed
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to smuck with words like I have done, or have
them ejected from the premises. And you got all the
nerds out there saying, oh, I'd slug him, but you wouldn't.
The split out there between pusillanimous and legit is about
ninety nine to one. And the blue hair goof, Yeah,
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he's an attention whore, But is he any different than
the Steelers Pope or Steelers Jesus at the games, in
the parking lot at Acrashore, the face painters, all those nutbars.
Is the blue haired goof and Detroit really any different?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
If you want to go further back, Franco's Italian Army,
same thing.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't believe the.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Local locals of that ilk are any different than the
blue haired goof in Detroit, except the player who was
never dumb enough to engage like the Kaelin zacharias Metcalf
did with the blue haired Goof. So that's what we
got on a Friday. I'm at the Schoolhouset, Tavern and
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Clarridge for the Steelers and Browns on Sunday one pm kickoff,
so please come and join me.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's insane with the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
There's a lot of hope, justifiably so in even more craziness.
I got a lot else going on. The Pirates signed
another guy o'hearne. He's not bad. Penguins are in freefall
and have lost the plot. Got drubbed at Toronto Tuesday
by Maple Leafs team that started the game only vaguely interested.
(05:17):
So there is plenty to talk about. Oh Tom got
fired again, but he'll be back on Monday. So call now,
get your calls in now. Eight three three four one
two wxdx. That's eight three to three four one two
w xdx. You got to give Duck Codgees credit. Yesterday
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at halftime of the Minnesota in Detroit game, he was
riding on the field in a car with his wife,
the country star at Lady Wilson. Duck Codges might be
the worst quarterback to ever play in the NFL, ever
start a game, certainly, although hey, Kenny Pickett given a
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run for his money, but Duck Hodges is undoubtedly the
king of the suitcase pimps. We keep debating who the
Steelers can and can't beat in the playoffs, but who
can tell? Now it's over two weeks away. We know
the games in Pittsburgh. We know every team that's going
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to be in the playoffs is pretty good. We know
every team has a very good quarterback except Houston, which
has a great defense.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It is so so wait and see.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
If I could pick an opponent, I'd pick the LA Chargers.
Herbert's been dinged up. Harbaugh cannot smart himself their coach,
and having beaten the Steelers at LA could work against
the Chargers because the playoffs are different, and this is
here in front of an hostile crowd in very likely
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cold weather LA. I mean, they don't have much home support,
but there is a profound difference in the weather. So
if I could pick one team to play in the
wildcard round, it'd be the LA Charges. How about Aaron
Rodgers brought off road vehicles for all the offensive linemen.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean, I know, it's just monopoly money.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The quarterbacks who have played in the league as long
as Rogers and accomplished what he has.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But still that is extremely generous.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You put out that much money, it ain't no money
no matter how much money you do gots.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Rogers also said.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Something I found hilarious when he commented on the DK
Metcalf situation. He said that fans wouldn't have the guts
to say that stuff face to face. Well, the guy
in Detroit, Aaron, he did exactly that. He said what
he said right to declin. Metcalf's face got popped for it,
and now he's going to be rich, and if he
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gets rich, lots of others gonna try it. So my
suggestion to NFL players who have rabbit ears is to
wear earplugs. Obviously, we know a lot now about this
dope in Detroit, and he is a dope, but I
just don't think he'd done nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Name's Ryan Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
He's been a season ticket holder at Forbes Field in
the front row for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Those tickets ain't cheap.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
People sitting around him have said he never goes too far,
never says anything out of line, and it's pointed out
that Ford Field security ain't far away at any point
during games, because again he's sitting in the first row.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He's just lot and annoying.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
He does the full name gimmick, calls the player by
what he refers to is their government name, in this case,
to Caitlin zacharias Metcalf. Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He definitely baited Metcalf, but so what.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
He has a prior history with Metcalf, but so what.
At the press conference he emphasized to use no racial
slurs or hate speech, and he wants to Kaylan to
say that and clear that up because I guess he's
being harassed, his family's being harassed. I think it's tremendous
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that at the press conference he didn't drop the gimmick
he called him to kaalen.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
The bottom line is, there's not one good reason to
not let this guy go to games, to ban him
from Ford Field, not one good reason the NFL needs fans.
Fans like this are invaluable. I bet Detroit wishes they
had a thousand more like him. If the stands are
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empty and the TVs don't get turned on, there is
no NFL. If decaelon Metcalf doesn't you know who does
in his place somebody else. The players are the most
disposable part of the big time sports equation, although all
those ex jocks with mics will tell you anything but
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to repeat, there's not one good reason to ban this
guy from games, and there's not one good reason to
feel starry for athletes. They're entitled, narcissistic brats who've been
placed on a pedestal since high school, junior high, heck,
maybe even Pop Warner football. So f them, F the players,
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f the Caitlin Zacharias Metcalf. I'm not saying this guy
in Detroit, this Ryan Kennedy. He ain't no hero, but
he didn't do nothing wrong. He didn't do anything wrong.
We got Jerry Doulac at the bottom of the hour.
I'm mark mad and get your calls in now eight
three three four one two w XDX.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Bring.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I'm not sure what to say about the Penguins. They
went to Toronto on Tuesday. The Leafs suck. Like I
said earlier, they appeared to be only vaguely interested. But
Toronto did a bunch of breakaways in one sixty three,
a couple of empty netters. It was really, you know,
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four to three late when they started putting through the
empty net, but still a depressing loss for the Penguins.
That's nine out of ten that they lost. And Dan Muse,
the rookie head coach, he's lost the plot.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm beginning to wonder if he's good enough to coach
in the National Hockey League. He's supposed to be there
to develop.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
The Kevin Hayes line played more than the Ben Kindle
line of Toronto. The bummy old Vets played more than
the kids. That was not the mission statement of the
team before the season started. Like I just said, it
was supposed to be about developments, but not to develop
Kevin Hayes. That's not the project. Kevin Hayes about as
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good as he going to be in it ain't so good.
I'm not sure what the project is supposed to be
anymore that that nine to four and two start threw
them off.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It was fool's gold.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
They got the smell and making the playoffs in their nostrils,
and they've left everything up since in terms of decision making.
The goaltending is rotten, the defensive corps is rotten. Nothing
is going good for the Penguins right now. So at Chicago,
on Sunday. The sid trade stuff is kicking up again,
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not that I think they're going to do it, not
that I think he's going to demand it, but it's
kicking off because the Canadian media just couldn't wait for
it to kick up again, couldn't wait for the Penguins
in a bad patch so they could try to talk.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
A lie into existence.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Maybe the Penguins could keep losing and yet get Gavin McKenna,
the Penn State get in the draft, and by the way,
his draft stock is supposedly plummeting.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, by plummeting, I mean from.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
The consensus first pick overall to maybe third or fourth.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But I think he goes first overall.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
His talent's overwhelming, and if he's not dominating like had
been hoped at Penn State, that's only because he's seventeen
years old and he's playing against men at the college level.
That's why he went there to be challenged more than
he was getting challenged in juniors.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
He shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Penalized via draft status for accepting a harder task. As
for the Buckos, they got another decent player, Ryan O'Hearn
first base, an outfield or left handed hitter. He's okay,
a solid bat seventeen home runs last year with Baltimore
and San Diego. Slash line of two seventy six, three
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fifty three eighty seven ops of seven thirty six got
him for two years twenty nine mil.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Pirate's overpaid a little a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The Pirate's gotta so Lyle and o'hearne and maybe Griffin
the phenom. Maybe he's ready. So that's not a bad
off season to date. It's probably not enough to make
him contend. It's probably not even quite yet five hundred.
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But what they're doing is encouraging now. By the same token,
I hate to canonize the Pirates because they're finally doing
what they should have all along. We're gonna have Jerry
Dulac gone in just a few moment. Whence the Steelers.
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Just what's going on now? It's wild, isn't it? The
DK thing. We're gonna talk about it for weeks for weeks,
and a Baltimore wins tomorrow and the games means something
for the Steelers, then their passing game is absolutely crippled.
They got Adam Thielen as the number one wide out
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all because the Kaylin Zacharis Metcalf couldn't act like an adult,
couldn't ignore some dope giving him a hard time. Just unbelievable, unbelievable.
How many people are defending the Kaylin. How many people
want the fan banned for life? And he didn't do
nothing wrong, didn't do nothing wrong. And I guarantee you,
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I guarantee you. Remember Harrison and Ocho Senko said they
communicated with DK and he said that the fan used
a racial slur and called his mother the sea word.
I guarantee Harrison and Ocho, I think Goo never communicated
with him, just made that stuff up because it sounded
logical to them. And that's the problem when you give
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an athlete a podcast, particularly athletes who went too bright.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They're not playing by the rules of journalism.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
They don't think it's a big deal to make something
up that sounds logical to them.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But I would bet they made that up up. Next,
Jerry do Lack.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
One oh five nine Steelers play at Cleveland Sunday.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We don't know if it's gonna matter or not. Joining
me not to talk.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Black and Gold football From the Post Gazette.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's Jerry Doulac. Jerry is a good or bad.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
If Baltimore loses tomorrow when the Steelers clinch, is it
good to have two meaningless games right before the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Well? Yeah, I don't think the meaningless part matters. I
will tell you Mark, I think if they if they
don't have to play a meaningless game in Cleveland they clinched,
that's all the good for them, because then how to
eliminate any potential praftfalls. So but I get your point
because but I say this, Mark, you know they will
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still play their veteran players now won't play in the
full game, might not play more than a half now
the last game. Maybe they'll sit down Cam. And it's
possible they would sit down Aaron Rodgers. But I will
tell you this, and more than likely they will. But
if the game in Cleveland is meaningless, I think you'll
still see these guys play. And I could tell you
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Aaron Rodgers wants to play. They understand that they are
playing well, and maybe more importantly, he is playing well,
and I know he doesn't want to disrupt that. So
you're not going to see Aaron Rodgers. If the Ravens
lose tomorrow night, you're not going to see Aaron Rodgers
not play again till the postseason. That's not going to happen.
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So Mike Tomlin never believes in these extended layoffs. So
I think you might be surprised how much some of
these guys play and maybe get rotated more and maybe
come out earlier than normal. But he will, he will
play them, with the possible exception of Cam and to
some degree Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
How is the Steelers running game resuscitated out of nowhere?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Jerry?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, you know, Mark, It's easy for me to say
the offensive line, and that's the big reason. And yet
they've had injuries there, so you can't point to continuity,
which they always say is a big key to the
success of the offensive line, because they've had different left tackles,
they've had different left guards, and so that rotation of
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players there. Obviously you can't sit here and say they
have that continuity. But those guys who have stepped in,
you know, and and Dylan Cook in particular has been
Mark for a guy who's never started an NFL game
and it started the last two, has been outstanding. And
where that comes from, I mean, who knows, who knows?
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And the fact that he did that the last game
without Isaac Saamalo. You know, when a player has a
veteran like Sayamalo next to him, that makes the you know,
makes the adjustment just a little bit easier. But to
not have that veteran like that for the last game
and still play as well as you did. You know,
those those runs by Jalen Warren, those touchdowns, you know
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those toss plays, the one off the left side, I mean,
my goodness, Mark, you and I could have run through
that whole untouched. So that that's in its most basic form,
you have to credit the line. But you know, I
mean Jalen Warren. You know he's had he's you know games,
not the big yardage games because that was the season high,
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but we've seen him, you know, breakoff runs with his power.
And what can you say about Kenny Gamewell, Mark, to me,
other than Aaron Rodgers, you can make a case that
he could be the team MVP. To me, it's Aaron Rodgers,
Jalen Ramsey, and then Kenny Gamewell for all the big
plays he has made and how well he has.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Played without Kaph for these two games. How do the
Steelers adjust on offense? What's the game plan? What's the
depth chart going to be at wideout?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Well, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious what you're
going to see. You're going to see even more of
Adam Feelin and Marcus vald of Scantling. Even though they
played a lot more last game than they did the
previous game, They've played a lot. I'm surprised how many
snaps they've actually played, especially feeling who's coming in cold.
You know, we saw last year they bring in Mike
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Williams and Mark. Mike Williams averaged seventeen snaps a game. Well,
Adam Feelin played more than that on really one day's practice.
He played twenty five for his first game. You know,
obviously Roman Wilson will be activated. But I think the
one thing I don't want to say that's in their favor,
but certainly the one thing that will help is all
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the personnel groupings that Arthur Smith has used to the
point that you know, we've all wondered and complained and
we're puzzled by you know, okay, where is John hu
Smith who was part of a big trade, Where is
Pat Fryar moved? And so you know you're using Darnell
Washington more and so I think, you know, look at
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what they did with Scottie Miller last week, two really
big catches on third and fourth down. So I think
the fact that they have spread the ball around all year.
Kenny Gamwells their leading receiver. I'm not gonna sit here
and say it's not going to hurt him, but I
think the way they have usial life to all these people,
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you're probably just gonna seem more the same. You know,
on Sunday you.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Mentioned Rogers is the MVP, and I tend to agree
with that. And I've said this before about Rogers Jerry.
I don't feel like he's.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Doing a ton.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
He's not spectacular, but he's doing less extremely well.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I think it's fair, Mark, But we won't take away
the fact that, you know, in two of the last
three games he's had his highest yardage totals of the season,
even though it doesn't seem like it, but that's because
there have been so many big pass plays, big yardage plays,
and so that has certainly helped. But the thing that
I see, and I've seen it since the Buffalo game,
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where he looked, you know, he looked like a guy
who was playing with a cast and had missed the
previous game and just seemed I don't want to say befuddled,
because that's not fair to him. But what you have
seen since then, Mark, is he is in complete control
of that offense. And it's apparent by just watching him.
And so you know, his December record is uncanny. You
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know since twenty nineteen, Mark, I went back and looked
this up. He's twenty and three and those three losses
were all last year with the Jets. So this is
a guy even though he started going into his mid
to late thirties and now in this forties, he has
played better as the season has gone on. His record
indicates that, and that's his credit. Even with the Jets
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last year, even though they lost three games of December,
his stats the last six games, his mobility, everything, the
last six game is actually what convinced the Steelers that, hey,
this guy's not slowing down at all, and we're seeing
that there's no sign that this guy is forty two
years old.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
We're talking to Jerry Doulack at the Post Cauzette. He's
brought to us by bud Light. Easy to drink, easy
to enjoy. What's Cleveland got going. Jerry Schador has been
up and down. I guess he's been Okay, Garrett's going
for the sack record. There's some nice sidebars for this
game Sunday, whether it's important or not.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Mark, I don't know that Cleveland has anything going for
him except they did play They did play the Bills
close last week. The one thing they do have is
their defense, and that has been, you know, for the
most part, pretty good all year. And of course that's
that's highlighted by Miles Garrett. So but you know, I
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mean Shador Sanders. You know, he might do some things
and then you see, you see how he just plays
like a guy who you know, makes rookie mistakes and
tends to play out of control. You know. So I
didn't think the Browns were this bad, to be honest,
But it all revolves around the decisions they made a quarterback, Mark,
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and here to me, how about this this? The cruelest
irony of all would be if the game means nothing
and Aaron Rodgers doesn't play the whole game, which he won't.
If the game means nothing, The cruelest irony will be
if Miles Garrett sets the NFL sack record by sacking Mason.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Rudolph after that thing back in twenty nineteen, swinging the helmet.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
At right, right, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I've been wondering if the Steelers, if the game's meaningless,
just might never drop back to pass and try to
deny Garrett that sack. I mean, I'm kidding, of course,
but that's that's fun to think about.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Isn't it.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yes, it is. And and of course Mason Rudolph wouldn't
let that happen anyhow, I'm sure you'd just throw it
the second, the second, even thought Miles Garrett was closed.
How about how about the old Green Bay Packer quarterback
laying down for Michael Strahan, Oh far right the record? Yeah,
you don't think this old Green Bay Packer quarterback would
lay down and set let Miles Garrett said the record
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would do? No, I I do a lot of a
lot of cruel storylines in play, No.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, no question.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Hey, that that's that might be the most fun thing
about the game, the things we just mentioned. Jerry, who
do you think the Steelers would most prefer to play
in the wild card round? At least prefer because that's
certainly a big debate now that it looks almost certainly
like they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
In I've kind of I'm not gonna sit here and
tell you I've pondered it a great deal, but I
have thought about it, and to me, you know, I'm
going to assume obviously Denver is going to win the
division of course in the West, and you know, Buffalo,
as good as Buffalo is at home and as well
(25:53):
as they're playing now there, they just don't seem to
be the same team on the road. And we know
what the Bills have done to the Steel lately. The
Texans offense doesn't scare me. Their defense is good to me.
I mean, I would think, you know, possibly the Chargers
would be would be the best bet to to get
(26:15):
them here where you have a chance to advance. And
then after that, I would say the Texans, you know,
Jacksonville should win that division. I shouldn't say should, but
looks like they will and so and then and then
if Buffalo doesn't catch New England, then they would be
the third team that I would that I think they
(26:36):
would probably least like to see. So, you know, assuming
those are the three wild cards, that's kind of that's
kind of the way I look at it now.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Jerry.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You reported a while back to t J. Watt was
expected to play again this season. Now he's been practicing,
do you have any further timetable for his return. Uh.
I'd like to see him get some game action in
before the playoff, as opposed to resting him.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It'd be different if he had never sat.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But but but nonetheless, I think if he can play,
he played off to at least a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Mark, I agree with you, and in him wanting to
I would think that he might want to. Yes, I
said that he would be back before the end of
the season, and I said last week that he would
return to practice this week, which of course he did.
But I don't I I did not. I don't want
to say I did not expect him to play in Cleveland.
I did not know if he would play in Cleveland.
(27:31):
And my guess is he will not play in Cleveland.
You know, Mark, it's it's kind of what. I don't
know this. This would be a factor. But with all
the buzz about Miles Garrett and everything you know, does TJ.
Watt want to get caught up in that comparison with
with Miles Garrett in this game? I mean as you
(27:51):
know who knows. I mean, that's as crazy as it sounds.
But he's physically cleared to play. But you know, I
I I'm just going to give a little deference to
what his brother JJ said last week that you know,
he wants to be sure that he in a focus
on being healthy. Well, I mean he is cleared to play.
(28:13):
But whether he plays or not in Cleveland, like I said,
I'm not expecting him to, but I'm with you. I
think maybe maybe play a little bit in Baltimore. Then again,
what shocked me at all because we saw what TJ.
Watt did when he missed all of training camp and
came in in that first game and was, you know,
balls on fire. So we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, I think that if he plays at Cleveland, even
though him and Garrett and ever on the field, that
comparison would be impossible to avoid. Then again, he's going
to be there in some capacity. And maybe it's just
not important. But I'll tell you what is important, Jerry
is the Steelers. For example, at Detroit at Baltimore, they
got all the calls, everything a referee decided that was
(28:55):
big went their way. Now, don't get me wrong, I
think the calls were proper, but is the team taken
on a bit of a team of destiny feel because
of that?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, Mark, I think the thing that people forget is
on that final drive, three straight call slash plays went
against them. That catch that looked like it hit the
ground went against them. That pass interference penalty against Kyle Duggart,
which was Man, you could have flipped the coin on
that one. And then and then what was the third one? Mark?
(29:28):
There were three consecutive plays.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Oh, there was the Darnell Washington OPI as well.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, no, yeah, but there were three in a row,
and I'm forgetting what it was, but there were three
plays in a row that kind of went against them.
Shame on me for not remember what that third one is.
And so it would have been easy for the Steelers
to be frustrated at that point in thinking, Okay, what's
going on here on the road. You know that these
calls weren't going in their favor. But yeah, I mean, hey,
(29:56):
that penalty, that flag was thrown right away on Amna
Saint Brown on that last play. What I don't understand
is the way the officials handled it. Mark. When there's
any penalty, all they do is call the penalty. They
don't recap the play that was negated because of the penalty,
and why they did that in that instance is still
(30:17):
beyond me. And I'm not sure why the official or
New York failed to felt compelled to explain, Well, it
was a touchdown, however there was past interference. I still
don't get why that happened. That's what was most puzzling
to me after all that delay.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well one other weird thing too, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And this just isn't in that game of Detroit, but
across the league, where are all the opis coming from.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's like somebody sent out a memo.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, and I'm sure you know, hey, look this is
nothing new, and I'm sure it happens a lot. I'm
sure the Steelers were probably alerting the officials, say steep
and high on fourteen. He's pushing off every play, and again,
that's nothing new, and maybe that's what happened. I don't
know that, Mark, but you're right, you're seeing it because hey,
I mean, it happens a lot. It happens a lot,
(31:05):
and I'm surprised as we have gone along that it's
not been called more because you can call that almost
as much as you could call past interference on every play,
no question.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Jerry has always great input. Enjoy the game. We'll talk
next week.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Mark, Thank you. Happy Holidays to you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Happy Holidays.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's Jerry Delucke, brought to us by bud Light Up
next to Trifecta even without Tom. Here Top three lies
told about the DK Metcalf situation.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
One five to nine.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Jerry called back the third call in a series of
three that went against the dealers at Detroit was at
high Smith tripping call Athough. I thought he very clearly
tripped him. In fact, Hi Smith reacted as soon as
he tripped him, as if he knew he tripped him
in A flag was forthcoming.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Uh the first dollar of the Mark Madden Show.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Brought to us by our good friends at Shandorovid Shandorovich
and Fisherman. Now with Tom fired, it's still time the trifecta.
It's three lies told about the DK Metcalff situation. One
It's been said the blue haired guy got ejected in
the past.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Not true. DK Metcalf kicked up a fuss last.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Year when the guy got under his skin when Seattle
visited ford Field. But dude did not get ejected. Two
that the fan use a racial slur and the C
word when addressing Metcalf this past Sunday, he did not
No one besides James Harrison and Chad Ocho Sinko said
(32:39):
that they got false information or just made it up.
And certainly there's been a lot of assumption, which I'll
get to in a little bit. And number three, Aaron
Rodgers said, fans wouldn't heckle face to face, wouldn't say
that stuff to a guy's face, But the blue haired
guy did exactly that at Ford Field. What ain't Rogers
(33:04):
seen the video? Does he think DK smacked the guy
via a zoom call?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Uh uh?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
The trifecta brought to list by Danny's Peacher and Hugies
en route eighty eight in Bethel Park. We got Tim
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