November 5, 2025 • 40 mins
Mark and Tommy Radio talk about the Penguins calling up goalie Sergei Murashov and do some Steelers talk as well
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Okay, let's call the role. It's the role call, it's
the role call. Indie got sauce, the LA Charger's gonna
tackle or replace alt who got hurt Jacksonville got Jakobe Myers,
Baltimore got a linebacker. All these teams that are in
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the AFC playoff picture got better. The Steelers did zilch.
The Steelers stood pat and they're not good enough. They
might be good enough to make the playoffs or even
win the division because of the circumstances with the division,
Burrow getting hurt, Jackson getting hurt since he being just
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about out, Baltimore being a bit behind. But can they
beat two or three good teams in a row, because
that's what it takes to make a playoff run, and
adding Jakobe Myers wouldn't guaranteed that or at least made
the likelihood fifty to fifty, but at least try. And
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the Steelers doing nothing makes you realize the Steelers don't
care one hundred percent about winning, not like they say
the Steelers want to finish five hundred or better and
make every game meaningful because that's where the money is.
It's not about winning a super Bowl, if it were,
because they're supposed to be all in with a bunch
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of senior citizens. If you're all in, you don't stand
pat at the deadline while teams you're competing directly with
make improvements.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Now. By contrast, in the twenty nineteen season, Ben.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Pops' elbow in Week two, the Steelers are zero and two. Okay,
so that season's over and they know it's you're not
gonna win playoff games with Rudolph and Duck at quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You're just not. But they trade a.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
First round pick for Mincup because you want to finish
five hundred and preserve all of that horseman or when
it would have been better to tank and get Justin Herbert.
Think about that, and here we are six years later,
the Steelers don't have their long term quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
They could have got him then, should have got him.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Then the Steelers did more to finish five hundred in
the lost season, made a big move than now when
they're supposedly all in with all those veterans.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Big move in no move. Now, think about that.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You might got to beat in the LA and or
Jacksonville in the playoffs. You got to beat Baltimore to
win the division. Those teams got better yesterday and the
Steelers did not think about that. This is the Mark
Madden Show. I was watching the local news this morning
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with no sound. Did Kyle dubis colected mayor follow me
on Twitter at Mark Madden X. I mean, how much
good have the Steelers done by keeping their draft picks
the last how many years?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Let me refresh your memory.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
They've not won a playoff game in one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven years going on eight.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
But you still think they do everything correctly.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And boy, the guys under the tent, it took him
twenty four hours, but they have come around.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You know, trade your draft picks. That's not what the
Steelers do.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
If they were all in, And now they're denying that
they're all in, even with a roster that might turn
to dust any second, because it's so frigging old. If
they were all in, they would have kept George Pickens.
You don't win with guys like Pickens. But if you're
under the tent, you're under the tent, I've never been
under the tent. Dan Rooney once asked me to be
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under the tent, and I said, mister Rooney, that's not
where the money is.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
In so many words. Actually, when I had lunch with
mister Rooney that one time, I was scared to death.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It wasn't the Rosavilla. You old guys from the North Side.
You remember the Rosavilla. That place was all right. Now
it's a parking lot. I don't know why the Steelers
stood pat Maybe aren't Rooney the second didn't want to
trade draft picks with the draft in Pittsburgh next year.
And if that's true that show biz prioritized over football,
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you're all in now. But that don't matter. You want
to get that big pop at the podium where you
make draft picks.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Bottom line, the Steelers needed to get better yesterday and
did not while others did. And those guys under the tent,
they're wrong. People who talk like me were right. Should
have got myrs for sure. Somebody listed all the fourth
round picks they've had that did good. The list of
the fourth round picks they ain't menut a crap is
a lot longer. Do you want to win or don't
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in the answer is no, the Steelers don't.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Not really.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
The Penguins they made some moves a Charie Brazo and
Jari went on ir. I think Jari hurt his neck
when he whipped it around to watch the puck go in.
Then at four times in the third period at Toronto,
I think he's wearing one of them callers. Now, Pickering
got sent on, Morishoff got called up.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Maybe it's good. I don't know. See that wasn't the plan.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I can tell you that Dan Heinen and Ryan Graves,
they got called up to old dudes, old washed up dudes.
Maybe the Penguins are hypnotized by the eight and fourth start.
Maybe they're trying to prop up that good start. I'm
excited to see Marischef. I hope he starts tomorrow night
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at home against Washington. Morishov against Ovechkin. It's like Glennon
versus Marx with Ovie at eight hundred and ninety nine goals. Wow,
I'd announced it. Morrishaw starting, I'd have announced it already.
Get the word out, sell some tickets to see Tretch
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Jack Junior. I guess this is James Bond. Need to
know time uh and news from practice. Ben Kendall is
on Sid's line at the wing. Crosby and Rust Malkin
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is centering Novak and mantup Heinen centering the third line.
And I mean, I think Hannan's a bum, but he
was leading Wilkson scoring and they're gonna put him with
Covenan at the wing. And I think those two played
together down there when Covenan was red hot to the top.
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He was red hot Brunick practice. Today, He's played nine games,
plays one more. His rookie contract kicks in. Kendall's already
has not sure if he's gonna play tomorrow night or not,
get sent back to juniors or not.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Me I'd keep him.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'd for sure keep him, uh.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
For a game or two or three.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Maybe it's okay with more shoft and clearly again it's
designed to prop up the good start. And maybe I
should be happy because Jari not playing is okay with me.
It's more than the Steelers did or tried on the
Steelers road to same.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
As always Ville Kolby Armstrong.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The other night when Jory was playing good, he was
talking about on TV about how Jari could be under
consideration for the Canadian Olympic team for what like figure
skating for a volleyball. I mean, I don't know what
the winner summer whatever's played, but I mean I know
cadad had gotten no goalies. But I mean, remember that
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time the Samboni driver came in into the emergency goalie
and beat the maple Leafs. I would rather have him
and goal for the Olympics than Jari. That said, Jari's
numbers this year not bad, but I don't trust him.
He's blown it too much for me to ever trust him.
I said back in twenty twenty one, when he made
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that terrible pass to gift the Islanders that overtime goal
that ultimately cost the Penguins that first round series, I
said the Penguins should have got rid of him them.
Why because nobody will ever trust him again, Not the fans,
not the players, even though they might lie to themselves.
Ain't nobody ever gonna trust them again. Should have been
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gone right then and there. But with the Steelers, hey,
things are looking up. They beat the Colts. High Smith
got Defensive Player of the Week in the AFC. I
bet the people who determined that was Wait what he
he's still on the Steelers because he'd done a disappearing
act up till that Colts came. Hey, maybe Doug Er
is the new Pula Malu. Maybe mvs istn T. Maybe
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got pork. We got a bunch of guys on today.
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Speaker 4 (11:09):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I can't get over the Steelers doing nothing at the
trade deadline and another teams did like I've talked about.
And I also can't get over how quickly the usual
suspects locally have have said the Steelers did the right thing.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I just hate seeing the price tag that was
attached to Jacobe Meyer. You know, if someone was going
to overpay a second round pick, a first round pick
for somebody like that, then okay, whatever, But for him
going for a fourth and a sixth and you still
so desperately needing help at that position, and.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Your season's over. If DK gets.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Hurt, that's the big thing. Oh, the biggest thing, and
that's still hanging over them like a cloud, is if
he's out for even a week or two, then you're
in real trouble. There's no one that can even masquerade
for a second as that number one option.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, I'd give it up a third and a sixth
to fourth and the fifth. Sure, I'd have given him
a little more juice to get them. And like I
said earlier, why did they make the big deal for
Minke in twenty ninth with Ben Ott and when the
season could not be saved? And now when the Steelers
are supposedly all in, they do nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And that was giving up a first round pick. That
was some serious business.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Duckstaposed to that Minka trade. Not doing anything now makes
zero sense. And I know that wasn't it the deadline,
but you know what did it do?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Really?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I mean Nka had three good seasons here, three first
team All Pro seasons, but he never won a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Correct? And again, I mean you went out.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And got Mika Fitzpatrick to support Duck Hodges, and you
wouldn't go out and get Jakobe Myers at a much
lesser price to prop up Aaron.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Rodgers who has been doing everything to prop you up
to this point in the season and has made your
team legitimate to this point in the season. So he
deserves that, he deserves a little bit of a bone
thrown his way. And when people, you know, say, oh,
you want to keep those draft picks, you don't want
to get in the business. It's not what the Steelers do.
We're talking a fourth round pick. We're talking about a
third round pick, Like, get out of here, that's nothing.
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You don't even blanket that. Real teams don't even care
about those kind of picks at this time of the year, I.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Think, And they's a real team. They traded two first
round picks for Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That probably tells you they think Danny Dimes is it huh,
Because if that's the case, then I am all for it,
because what else do you need to build that team
up with. They're really complete right now. If that quarterback
is the quarterback, well, not.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Getting Mars at that price has to be nut so
and Seattle got that wide out for New Orleans Shaheed,
He's okay, he can go deep with these stats Tom
that Shahet has forty four catches and four hundred and
ninety nine yards this year.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Those numbers would make him the Steelers leading receiver.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, and again, not a crazy amount of draft capital
that has to go back to the Saints to get Shaheed.
You're just missing out when you're the Steelers. That's what
it feels like. And I really don't understand why people
are okay with it, Like I get that you question
how they would use that wide receiver if he gets
here right, Like, this offense isn't.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Exactly I think they needed a quarterback worse it.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Probably if you told me I could make the Gardener
deal or the Myers deal, I'd make the Gardener deal,
even at the price of two first round picks, even if.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You don't get to go to the podium and say, Pittsburgh,
here's who we pick in the upcoming draft.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
But if you come to me and take that side
of the argument, off, Oh, the Steelers were smart to
not get a wide receiver because where's he going to
fit into that offense. I'd hear it for a little bit,
but then I would disagree with it. Make him fit
into that offense. And like you said, it's that DK
injury thing that's still hanging over you. You need a legitimate
option if that happens.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
What's the locker room thinking about the Steelers doing nothing?
The old dudes who are all in who they're supposed
to win for. What does Rogers think or are they
marks for the logo? Like like the fans aren't a
lot of the media. I just feel like, and now
the story is tom that the Steelers never said they're
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all in.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
They never use those words. That's what the stooges are saying.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Well, when you go get Rogers and DK and Ramsey
and re up what and still have Hayward and get
Darius Slay who sucks, but you got him, you're all in.
I don't care if you use that terminology. You're all
in to win a playoff game?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Does that ever really even happen? Like, do they ever
a team come out and say, hey, we're going all
in this year like and put that term to it.
It's always the actions that you watch them take that
you say, oh, that team is really loading up for
one season. They're really trying to win right now. And
every action that the Steelers took this offseason pointed to that,
except for trading George Pickens. I guess technically, but hey,
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cowboys are three five and one. To your point that
you don't win with guys like that. He's putting up
a ton of stats. The Cowboys think, well, they stink
for reasons beyond Nashural.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, Pickens.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Pickens will will go there, do well there, leave there
and screw someplace else up after that? What about the
moves by the Penguins talk I'm excited to see Morris
Shoff play, especially if it's Tomorrow night against his countryman Ovechkin.
With Ovi sitting on six hundred ninety nine, he's scored
faster than I can at them up. Yeah, eight hundred
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ninety nine. I think I said six to ninety nine before. Uh,
that's that's a fireable offense. But calling Moreshov up wasn't
the plan. Then again, he earned it. He was the
AHL Goaltender of the Month ninety three percent on the
say percentage.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I was just always worried that you call him up
too early for his development. But those guys know more
than me. If they think he's ready, he's ready, so
bring him up.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, they're calling him out out of need because Jari's
gonna be out, they said, I think at least three weeks.
But here's the thing, tom you're calling him up to
try to hold a two game losing streak, which might
be a reason to not play him against Washington, to
not you know, stack that pressure up.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
But then again, if they lose, he'll have to break
a three game uh losing streak.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I think he's gonna play one of the next two games,
so I'd make it tomorrow night, and I would get
the word out there to sell some tickets.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I think that's a great idea. I think they
should announce that, get ahead of it, like you gotta
put fans in the stands. And there have been games
this year, mark even though the Penguins have had a
very good start to their season, where it has been
dead kind of in that arena. Not from the aspect
of the fans that are there. They're passionate fans, but
I'm talking about you see some empty seats on the TV.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Oh no, no question, especially on weeknights.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And again I'm not blasting that they brought up Morrischoff
and I'm certainly a Morrischaw fan. I think he can
I think he can cut it. Let's be honest, Tom.
He has nothing to lose but his chains, and I'd
like to see him play against OVI. Maybe it's fate.
Maybe he does great, maybe at least Jari's not playing.
But again, Jari's numbers were decent save percentage of ninety one,
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but I just do not trust him. As far as
calling up Heinen, I'm disappointed a younger forward didn't come up,
like bros or Avery Hayes, but Heinen has fourteen points
in ten games, Wilkes's leading scorer. I think he played
on the line with Covenan when Coyvenan was real hot down.
They're not sure about that, but again, they want to
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prop up that good start.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
They've kind of become a little bit marks for the start,
and I guess you gotta.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I like that Heinen coming up allows Kindle to skate
on Sid's wing too. Oh, they're gonna make that move
a mooe excited about that for sure. Yeah, so that's
a good product of that. But you could have brought
up an Avery Haze or a Bros And slid him
on that third line and sent it to the third
line too. So I'm kind of torn with that aspect
of it. Like I would have liked to see the
kids lying Kyina still stay intact eight and two, then
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you go, kid.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It would have been it would have been Bros on
that third line, but eight four and two and they're
just trying to keep it stitched together.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And maybe Heinen, you know, does carry over his hot
start at the AHL level to the NHL. That's tough
to think that he will, but I hope they do.
Tap into some of that chemistry with Coyn and they
got to get coven In. Going Covenan at the NHL
level has been a disappointment this year. I gotta tell you, though,
this is the first instance where Dan Muse is one
full of crap because he said he didn't mind a righty,
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righty pair and now he's caught up Ryan Graves to
avoid having a righty, righty pair. First lie that you've
caught him in. Why do you think that is? Why
is there just such an adverse to do that X.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Amount of coaches do X amount of things exactly the
same way in.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Every sport pretty much, even if that means you're not
getting your most talented players on the ice, because if
Ryan Graves is on the ice, you ain't getting your
most talented players out there.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, but I don't know that you're cheating hockey by
not playing Matt Dumba. But Kendall on Sid's line, I
am really excited about that. I still think his long
term future is at center, but I think this is
an opportunity he'll embrace and make the most of him
become a better player because of it, and there's a
chance that might be like Mario and Robbie bron back
in the late eighties, although Kindle's a much better all
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around player than Robbie Brown.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
No offense, Brownie if you're listening.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
But Mario and Brownie thought the game the same and
it made up for Brownie's lack of speed, whereas Kendall
and Sid I think they might also think hockey the same,
and Kendall has a more complete skill set to be sure.
Although Brownie is a point collector, wow.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, hopefully this will have Kindle collecting his fair share
of points, even though he already is goals already this season.
I know Shaeffer is so unbelievable in New York, but
outside chance at the calder for Kendall a little Rookie
of the Year campaign, especially if he plays with sand
for a while and puts up a lot of points.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Too much preconceived about Shaffer because of it, Yeah, I mean,
have you seen him?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
He's amazing, He's pretty good. Yeah, I can pretty shuld
get it. Probably, But Kendall. What a great runner up
that he's become so far this season.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
By the way, I should take the time to salute
Robbie Brown one hundred and fifteen points playing on Mario's wing.
Great guy took Alyssa Milano's virginity. We know who the
boss was. Then one O five to nine, one.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
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Speaker 1 (20:40):
Cash money like that. I'm rich, rich, rich, listen all
day for your chance as some extra cash. On one
oh five nine the X, My dad pulled double shifts
at the Pittsburgh Mill with Mark Madden and I'm off
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for men on.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It is amazing how the stooges are backing the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Doing nothing, but I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Gotta try to get I mean, Dale Ally passed and
God bless him. He did a great job, worked for
the Steelers, a true football guy. But that left the
job with the Steelers and all the stooges wanted. I
rewatched the Steeler game last night and certain conclusions are
easily reached. Ramsey and Duggers should remain the starting safeties.
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Ramsey should be a safety period moving forward, because Thornhill,
Clark and Pepper's suck and Ramsey ain't that guy at
corner no more. I'd used that four to three. Look
more on defense, la the Chargers Jim Harball loves to
run the ball and La can do it four point
eight yards per carry. That four to three look helps
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stop Jonathan Taylor, so I'd use it some more aganst
the Chargers, and not to get the three edge guys
out there together some Again, Herbert gets concussed a lot too.
He's the one running quarterback. Nobody talks about being a
running quarterback, but he might have the most concussions.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
You know why they don't talk about it. It's not
because he's white, it's because he's not black.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And then some basics, run the ball better and don't
ditch the run, and more pressman coverage, play the psy
junior strengths.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Joey Porter Junior.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Played his best game in a long time, playing a
lot of pressman against the Colts. And sure he got
a couple penalties. That's not a disaster if the otherwise
plays well. Tom how good is Herbert a quarterback? Where
would you rate him?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Top five? Top ten? Overrated?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What he's not in the top five, he's probably right
towards the back end of the top ten. His talent
dictates that he could get to the top five one day.
He just hasn't really been able to like put it
all together, you know what I mean, likes.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Sure have they around his behalf.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah around y gott into the playoffs a couple of times,
but has really turned in some crappy playoff performances once
he's gotten there, I mean, just awful ones. So I
don't know. He was probably like number nine, number ten
as far as the quarterback. I know this. He torched
the Steelers the last time they went out to LA.
They played him last year, but he was hurt in
that game. He didn't make it through the game. But
when they went to LA, he rushed for ninety yards
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on nine carries, and he threw for over four hundred
yards too. Just tore him apart.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He's inconsistent, but he's a guy where that's not necessarily
this damning tag. Like I would say sixty percent of
the time he's real good, maybe two thirds at a time,
and the rest of the time he don't.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Suck, you know. And he for the interceptions that he throws,
Like you look at his stat lines and it's always
like four hundred yards passing, four touchdowns and two interceptions.
I just think dude likes to just throw the ball
around the yard and is willing to kind of push
the envelope sometimes and he gets bitten for it.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I missed the days when you could throw an interception
and it wasn't treated like you gave five people syphilis. Okay,
you have to dare to accomplish, you know, as Bruce
Arians always says, no.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Risk it, no biscuit.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I don't think a turnover is a big deal if
you're making a lot more plays than turnovers. And I
think Harbor and not just you know, in the flat,
not just that dinking duck.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I'm talking about making plays.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think Harbaugh's is in that line of thinking too.
When it comes to Herbert, like, I don't get the
sense that he's willing or that he's feeling like he
needs to, you know, cut back on him because he
turns the ball over too much. He's just letting Herbert
be Herbert. How about Herbert three hundred and five rushing yards.
I know he's awesome at that's.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Deceptive, and again people don't recognize it, not because he's white,
but because he isn't black.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
How About here's some more stats.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
The Chargers have two receivers with more yards than metcalf
and two more with just a few like ten.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yards less than Metcalf.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
The Steelers so lack at receiver and so aren't getting
enough out of.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
DK and the Chargers, Yeah, they have just a ton
of weapons at that receiver position, Lad McConkie Quintin Johnson.
Johnson's really coming on this year. Keenan Allen's having a
late revival of his career going back to LA and
playing for the Chargers. And then you got the rookie
tight end Ronde Gatson. But they've kind of been centering
their passing game around the previous couple of weeks. He's
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been like getting route shares with like ninety one and
eighty eight percent, So he's a big threat. Their two
starting running backs go down the rookie of Mario Hampton
and Naji Harris. This is Vidal guy comes in and
he's still running the ball effectively. Like the offense has
a ton going for it except for their tackles being
out And that's the biggest key.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I think I got to interject.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
We're watching this game here on the big screen in
the studio Chelsea and Klara bag who are in Azerbaijan. Yeah,
and like it's tied to two, which would be a
big result for the team from Azerbaijan. And like when
you're over there, like in this third world nation, and
then you leave the stadium after a bad result and
you see the kids like all bagan for food, Like
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it's got to be depressing.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Or like being in New York.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I'm always so amazed when I'm watching these Champions League
games with you and.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
The punchline work, or like being in New York.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like where at Azerbaijan right now? S name's packed, Mark,
I mean there's like thirty thousand people there. They're all
foaming at the mouth. Like that's everywhere I watch these games.
There was a.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Piece of brand.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Now now getting back to the Steelers Chargers, I feel
like it's a game where the Steelers have put themselves
on the line. Tom. I think when you don't do
nothing and you did just beat Indy, you're saying we're
good enough, Okay, so go out there and be good enough. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think they have to beat the Chargers. You know,
we kind of were predicting that they would get to
this point and this would be such a swing game
for their season. But remember we thought it was going
to be the Packers was gonna be that typical Tomlin
bounce back game, right and then they'd lose to Indy
and then it was all gonna come down to the Chargers.
So we're still at that same point right now. We
just got there in such a weird way that we
never saw coming. It's going to come down to I
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think winning the division or not. I don't want to
sound that dramatic, but what happens in LA against the Chargers.
They win that game, they'll win the North, I think,
or have a very good shot at it.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, the cushion then will be I mean six and three,
with the Ravens having at that point less than half
the season to catch up, it will look daunting to them.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Then again, Baltimore does play Pittsburgh twice.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You get to six and three two, you'll probably be favored.
And I know that doesn't mean you'll win these games,
but you'll be favored again since he at home. Maybe
a slight favorite, slight underdog on the road against the
Bears on Monday Night, but you're looking at a real
shot at being eight and three before the Bills. You
get Bills, then you get Ravens. Eight and three before
that stretch it'd be really really hard to blow the North,
but then they did it last year.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
At that kind of point, dude was just kneeling on
the field, Tom praying. I bet he was praying, Please
don't let me be in Azerbaijan. I'm afraid I've got
some bad news.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You mentioned at the beginning of this segment, some of
the new stuff they did on the defensive side of
the ball. Do you think them using that four to
three kind of helped unlock Peyton Wilson a little bit too?
Maybe he was more comfortable playing with a couple of
inside linebackers next to him, having Malik Harrison out there,
because he had his best game ever.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
That's, oh, by far, his best game ever, and I
thought he got to do more. I thought he didn't
by road. I think they've been in that three four
so much that guys get used to doing the same
thing all the time. And Tom, as it's been said,
creating a bunch of useful tools creates a bunch of
useless people.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But like kind of what you were saying, like we're
it kind of just frees him up a little bit.
He getting Malik Harrison out there, don't have to worry
about the run as much. If I'm Peyton los Sage
jam fine, right, I mean Jonathan Taylor didn't go bananas.
Omalie Harrison does his stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
The thing the Steelers defense did, it's not been talked
about enough because of the what wasn't five sacks and
then the six takeaways. They tackled a lot better, didn't
miss a lot of tackles.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
You know, it was awesome. By the way.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Matt Williamson just Austin period our guru, but he tweets
stuff like he's not an opinions guy, but he finds
stats and facts that just excoriate the Steelers, like the
numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you at sacrifice.
Did you know the Steelers tom are first in the
NFL in three and outs, which despite me thinking Aaron
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Rodgers is playing great, that doesn't reflect well, does it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It surprises me to hear that too, because I wouldn't
think that was the case because I think Aaron Rodgers
is playing great, But that's terrible to lead the league
in that, and that has to be a trend for them,
because I have to imagine last year of the year
before that, they were towards the top of the league too.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And guess who leads the league in miss tackles.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Pittsburgh, No, what player? Oh uh? Patrick Queen?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You can't have your inside linebacker getting the most money
having the Green Dot lead the league in misstackles.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
You know what sucks about him though?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
The two games before this one, even the Green Bay game,
which was a loss, he played pretty good the two
games before the Colts game.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Oh wait?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Or was he bad in the Green Bay gankings? I
don't think anybody was good in the Green He.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Played two good games and then went back right to
be in Patrick Queen?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Doesn't he kind of always do that though? And isn't
that kind of the mark of just maybe an average
player where he has his good games, but he's never
going to be able to put it together consistently. By
the end of the year. They might need Peyton Wilson
to ascend to be that number one.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, I don't know if. I mean, I just don't
think he's that good. I mean, I think he played better.
I'm not think I think you might be right about that.
So then that's even more of a reason to put
three of them out there, right, to put three inside
linebackers on the field more often and stick to that
four to three. And you want to talk about doing
something different, I mean, is there anything more different you
could do than shifting from a three to four to
a four to three as the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I mean that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Well, especially going back and forth during the game.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I love that too.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
No, I like, like I said, it pains me to
say Tomlin did a great job against the Colts. But
Tomlin and his bobo Tara Austin, they did a great
job against the Colts. That defense was not only good,
it was inventive and adjusted.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Pass to continue though we've seen moments in the past
couple of years where they've done inventive things, they've adjusted
for a game specifically, and then they kind of go
back into the things that they like to do. Moving forward, is.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
For Sunday at LA, they will go back to doing
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The Trifecta brought to us by Danny's PiZZ and Hogies,
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Route eighty eight in Bethel Park, Tom, what have we
got for today's trifecta?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I got a Steelers trifecta today, Mark, on the defensive
side of the ball. I got three younger players that
really need to ascend and almost become order line stars.
Dare I say, maybe they don't have that ceiling, but
I'm gonna give them to you real quick. I got
Keanu Benton, Peyton Wilson, and number one is Joey Porter Junior.
And that's really the one that needs to become a
star player kind of flirt with being that outside shut
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down corner.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
And the one with the pedigree to do so. Did
you feel Kanu Benton played Okay, you got the.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Sack, ripped the sack.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I know that Colt's offensive line, for as much you know,
hype as it gets, didn't didn't.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Do so well.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I think you have to say that that's because the
Steelers defensive line played well. I know, like you don't
want to do that, but they did.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And I think maybe their offensive line got crossed up
by that four to three stuff and the extra extra
inside backer all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Which is why I always hated how vanilla that defense
has been over the past couple of years, just cause chaos.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Cause we do what we do and let's see if
they can stop us.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Make it harder on some professionals, you know, make them
have to think a little bit. Oh they're throwing a
different look at me. Oh my god, three outside linebackers
are on the field. Don't just make it. Break the
huddle and up same old defensive formation as last time.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Uh Tom, I really hope that morishoff plays against OVI
tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I feel like it would be a victory for the proletariat.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I believe you're right with that, but I think it's
not gonna happen because that would throw she loss off
the rotation, and I don't know if Dan Muse is
going to do that. I think it's gonna be she
lofts tomorrow, which sucks. I feel like it's just let's
sell some tickets, I know, and it's just even beyond
selling the tickets in mus.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I know he's a by the numbers coach, as he
illustrates by.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Like I said before, he lied about not minding a
righty righty pair, as witnessed by calling up Ryan Graves.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
So he can maintain lefty righty. But you have to
have a sense of the.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Occasion sometime exactly, and like Morrishoff shouldn't make his debut
on the road. Everybody remembers the Flurry debut back when
he lost, but he stopped the penalty shot and you
could tell he was the real thing. You need to
have a sense of the occasion, not just payt inside
the lines.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You're so right, and I so agree with you, and
he's just not gonna do it. It's gonna be she lost tonight.
Murrishoff will get the start at twelve thirty on Saturday
afternoon in New Jersey for his debut, and then it's
a back to back against the Kings on Sunday back
in Pittsburgh. She lost, will start that one too.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Have you ever been to Newark? No, it's like playing
an Azerbaijan. Uh yeah, I mean you gotta have a
sense to the occasion. In fact, that's going to be
You know what, I didn't write a list yet tom
It could be mused.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
If he doesn't start moreshoff tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
It would just feel like such a tease to have
him to get that news yesterday that he's coming up,
all that excitement. You have a day off today to
kind of talk it up, build it up. That's why
you're like, you're right. They should have announced that he's
gonna start against Washington when they made the call up,
so we could be talking about it through that lens
and drive that kind of like ticket sale thing going on.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
But well, the Missunday, the new mayor of Pittsburgh, Kyle
Dubas and Muse, and I think they're excellent at what
they do.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
They have no sense of showbiz whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
You got the Steelers owner doing the dumb thing, not
trading picks because he wants to go to the Ponty
him at the draft in Pittsburgh next day would say,
with pick number YadA, YadA, the Steelers select, and the
whole crowd roars, he's terrible talents flying, Yeah, right right,
He'd rather get that moment than the moment of winning.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
A playoff game.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I really hope you're not right about that. You think
you are. You think that's part of the motivation here.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Don't you think there's an element of that at least.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I'm worried that there's a chance, because that's so Jerry Jones, right.
I mean, that's right up with Jerry Jones type of alley.
That's why Jerry Jones. I think he is making these moves.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Size did Jerry Jones trade for when.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
They traded Michah Parsons Quinn Williams.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Quinn Williams the Jet. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I criticized that because I don't think they're going anywhere.
But somebody brought up a good point on ESPN this
morning that you know they have him for years to come,
and he's really good.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
He is really good. But I just think Jerry, I mean,
they shouldn't have traded Micah. Jerry just likes to be
in the headlines. He's just making these moves to stay
fresh and in the headlines.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Who's a better impact player, Quinn on or Micah? Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Michael Parsons sure than Quinn Williams. Yeah, Michael Parsons is
the defensive player of the year right now.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
But I mean, what about quinnin Williams in a I
mean not well, I mean better than the Jets anyway,
a better scenario than he had.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But look, he's good. He's really good. I think he's
gonna be great for Dallas. Micah Parsons is just a
different kind of cat.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Somebody said on Get Up Today he compared Quinn Williams
to Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
No, too far. I don't even know if Quinn Williams
is by far the best defensive tackle in the game
right now. I mean, think about Sexy Dexi who's in
New York too. I know the Giants think, but Dexter
Lawrence is great. Cam is actually playing pretty well this year.
Not to that level like he's used to, but he's
been having a good season.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I Cam credit Camps generally had a good season. After
pissing me off with the hold in where he got
the okie doak. But he did you know, he did
a real good job against the Colts, against against Q
against Nelson.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, he's a great guard.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
But you know what, I love when Camp has the
interviews after the game, because he just looks like this sweaty,
warn out old guy's just exhausted, like like he just
cut the lawn in August and I wanted the kids
to get the frig off it. But he still has
that old man's strength and he's determined. I give him that.
I give Caim credit words due always have. Yes, I
(37:08):
just don't think he's covered himself in not glory. What's
sort of looking for common sense with the way he's
handled some things.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
If he didn't have that turbulent moment of the contract
issue during training camp, I think we'd be looking at
him in the light of another phenomenal season. This guy's
kind of an ageless wonder at that position. Uh, But
that off field kind of distraction just soured people on
him a little bit. I think I bet he's been fantastic.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I beta in the second bet to make thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's a good bet to make. I think that that's possibility,
and I don't think he's as good as he was
last year when he was a first team All Pro. Either.
I think there's kind of been some you know, up
and down nature to his play, but man, he has
been better than you could have probably imagined the thirty
eight year old would have been. And the batting passes
is still such a big element to his game. Got
that tones started against the Colts early in that one.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I think he's actually played to what's left his potential
more than what has more consistently.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, I think that he has been present in more
games this year. What that was really the first game
that Watt wrecked against.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Them, the first game that he had major, major impact in.
He had two other pretty good games. So let's say
he had impact in three out of eight so far
major impacted one out of eight.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
That's just not enough.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
And I would bet he goes to LA and disappears,
even though they're in such flux at tackle that they'll double,
they'll chip, they'll do the things that Indy for some
reason were arrogant enough that they didn't do.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
If he does disappear, if he is taken out by
the Chargers, then Herbig and Heismith better have monster games
because they're just so bad on the after being a
AFC defense him. Yeah, I won the defensive Player of
the week. I'm good.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I mean, what have you seen about him or even
heard from him that would suggest he's driven?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The consistency isn't there, So that would be a point
in to what you're saying right there. And he's just
too injured, way too often. Like he's almost becoming more
injury prone, if not as injury pune as herbig And
that's always been the knock on him, and.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
They should not have signed him at that length and price,
should not have signed Mooth at that length in that price.
But all the marks that they're all Mooth, Mooth smooth
and Highsmith's dad, he used to be on Twitter. I
probably chased him off. I buried him.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You did. And see that's why I hope high Smith
stays healthy obviously and plays well this year because it
would help the stealer this year, but goes into the
season after a good second half healthy into the offseason
because you you gotta trade him. I think that that's
just such an obvious move to make this offseason, trade
that contract, get out from under that and just transition
to herbig and sawyer as kind of being your secondary
punches to lot.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Somebody tweeted me and suggested we do earlier this week, Tom,
remember I referenced the he LEDs up when country song
hot Dog Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
And they said you should play it.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I've never heard it, and they could go on YouTube,
but I might play it at some point, not now,
but that have.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
You heard it?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I've never heard hot Dog Eye.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
It's so good and it's such like, I'm not sure
if it's a good country song or a parody of
a good country song.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
It's just wild that they went into that genre for
just one song. Just one song was a country song.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, they did the one James Brown song, the Crunch.
Has anybody seen the bridge?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Never heard that one? Anything?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Where is that confounded bridge? One oh five nine x
That's money now.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Free never sounded so good.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Okay, let's call the role. It's the role call, it's
the role call. Indie got sauce, the LA Charger's gonna
tackle or replace alt who got hurt Jacksonville got Jakobe Myers,
Baltimore got a linebacker. All these teams that are in
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the AFC playoff picture got better. The Steelers did zilch.
The Steelers stood pat and they're not good enough. They
might be good enough to make the playoffs or even
win the division because of the circumstances with the division,
Burrow getting hurt, Jackson getting hurt since he being just
(01:09):
about out, Baltimore being a bit behind. But can they
beat two or three good teams in a row, because
that's what it takes to make a playoff run, and
adding Jakobe Myers wouldn't guaranteed that or at least made
the likelihood fifty to fifty, but at least try. And
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the Steelers doing nothing makes you realize the Steelers don't
care one hundred percent about winning, not like they say
the Steelers want to finish five hundred or better and
make every game meaningful because that's where the money is.
It's not about winning a super Bowl, if it were,
because they're supposed to be all in with a bunch
(01:55):
of senior citizens. If you're all in, you don't stand
pat at the deadline while teams you're competing directly with
make improvements.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Now. By contrast, in the twenty nineteen season, Ben.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Pops' elbow in Week two, the Steelers are zero and two. Okay,
so that season's over and they know it's you're not
gonna win playoff games with Rudolph and Duck at quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You're just not. But they trade a.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
First round pick for Mincup because you want to finish
five hundred and preserve all of that horseman or when
it would have been better to tank and get Justin Herbert.
Think about that, and here we are six years later,
the Steelers don't have their long term quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
They could have got him then, should have got him.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Then the Steelers did more to finish five hundred in
the lost season, made a big move than now when
they're supposedly all in with all those veterans.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Big move in no move. Now, think about that.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You might got to beat in the LA and or
Jacksonville in the playoffs. You got to beat Baltimore to
win the division. Those teams got better yesterday and the
Steelers did not think about that. This is the Mark
Madden Show. I was watching the local news this morning
(03:23):
with no sound. Did Kyle dubis colected mayor follow me
on Twitter at Mark Madden X. I mean, how much
good have the Steelers done by keeping their draft picks
the last how many years?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Let me refresh your memory.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
They've not won a playoff game in one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven years going on eight.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
But you still think they do everything correctly.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And boy, the guys under the tent, it took him
twenty four hours, but they have come around.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You know, trade your draft picks. That's not what the
Steelers do.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
If they were all in, And now they're denying that
they're all in, even with a roster that might turn
to dust any second, because it's so frigging old. If
they were all in, they would have kept George Pickens.
You don't win with guys like Pickens. But if you're
under the tent, you're under the tent, I've never been
under the tent. Dan Rooney once asked me to be
(04:26):
under the tent, and I said, mister Rooney, that's not
where the money is.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
In so many words. Actually, when I had lunch with
mister Rooney that one time, I was scared to death.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It wasn't the Rosavilla. You old guys from the North Side.
You remember the Rosavilla. That place was all right. Now
it's a parking lot. I don't know why the Steelers
stood pat Maybe aren't Rooney the second didn't want to
trade draft picks with the draft in Pittsburgh next year.
And if that's true that show biz prioritized over football,
(05:02):
you're all in now. But that don't matter. You want
to get that big pop at the podium where you
make draft picks.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Bottom line, the Steelers needed to get better yesterday and
did not while others did. And those guys under the tent,
they're wrong. People who talk like me were right. Should
have got myrs for sure. Somebody listed all the fourth
round picks they've had that did good. The list of
the fourth round picks they ain't menut a crap is
a lot longer. Do you want to win or don't
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in the answer is no, the Steelers don't.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Not really.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
The Penguins they made some moves a Charie Brazo and
Jari went on ir. I think Jari hurt his neck
when he whipped it around to watch the puck go in.
Then at four times in the third period at Toronto,
I think he's wearing one of them callers. Now, Pickering
got sent on, Morishoff got called up.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Maybe it's good. I don't know. See that wasn't the plan.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I can tell you that Dan Heinen and Ryan Graves,
they got called up to old dudes, old washed up dudes.
Maybe the Penguins are hypnotized by the eight and fourth start.
Maybe they're trying to prop up that good start. I'm
excited to see Marischef. I hope he starts tomorrow night
(06:22):
at home against Washington. Morishov against Ovechkin. It's like Glennon
versus Marx with Ovie at eight hundred and ninety nine goals. Wow,
I'd announced it. Morrishaw starting, I'd have announced it already.
Get the word out, sell some tickets to see Tretch
(06:43):
Jack Junior. I guess this is James Bond. Need to
know time uh and news from practice. Ben Kendall is
on Sid's line at the wing. Crosby and Rust Malkin
(07:03):
is centering Novak and mantup Heinen centering the third line.
And I mean, I think Hannan's a bum, but he
was leading Wilkson scoring and they're gonna put him with
Covenan at the wing. And I think those two played
together down there when Covenan was red hot to the top.
(07:24):
He was red hot Brunick practice. Today, He's played nine games,
plays one more. His rookie contract kicks in. Kendall's already
has not sure if he's gonna play tomorrow night or not,
get sent back to juniors or not.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Me I'd keep him.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'd for sure keep him, uh.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
For a game or two or three.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Maybe it's okay with more shoft and clearly again it's
designed to prop up the good start. And maybe I
should be happy because Jari not playing is okay with me.
It's more than the Steelers did or tried on the
Steelers road to same.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
As always Ville Kolby Armstrong.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The other night when Jory was playing good, he was
talking about on TV about how Jari could be under
consideration for the Canadian Olympic team for what like figure
skating for a volleyball. I mean, I don't know what
the winner summer whatever's played, but I mean I know
cadad had gotten no goalies. But I mean, remember that
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time the Samboni driver came in into the emergency goalie
and beat the maple Leafs. I would rather have him
and goal for the Olympics than Jari. That said, Jari's
numbers this year not bad, but I don't trust him.
He's blown it too much for me to ever trust him.
I said back in twenty twenty one, when he made
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that terrible pass to gift the Islanders that overtime goal
that ultimately cost the Penguins that first round series, I
said the Penguins should have got rid of him them.
Why because nobody will ever trust him again, Not the fans,
not the players, even though they might lie to themselves.
Ain't nobody ever gonna trust them again. Should have been
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gone right then and there. But with the Steelers, hey,
things are looking up. They beat the Colts. High Smith
got Defensive Player of the Week in the AFC. I
bet the people who determined that was Wait what he
he's still on the Steelers because he'd done a disappearing
act up till that Colts came. Hey, maybe Doug Er
is the new Pula Malu. Maybe mvs istn T. Maybe
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Speaker 4 (11:09):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I can't get over the Steelers doing nothing at the
trade deadline and another teams did like I've talked about.
And I also can't get over how quickly the usual
suspects locally have have said the Steelers did the right thing.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I just hate seeing the price tag that was
attached to Jacobe Meyer. You know, if someone was going
to overpay a second round pick, a first round pick
for somebody like that, then okay, whatever, But for him
going for a fourth and a sixth and you still
so desperately needing help at that position, and.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Your season's over. If DK gets.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Hurt, that's the big thing. Oh, the biggest thing, and
that's still hanging over them like a cloud, is if
he's out for even a week or two, then you're
in real trouble. There's no one that can even masquerade
for a second as that number one option.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, I'd give it up a third and a sixth
to fourth and the fifth. Sure, I'd have given him
a little more juice to get them. And like I
said earlier, why did they make the big deal for
Minke in twenty ninth with Ben Ott and when the
season could not be saved? And now when the Steelers
are supposedly all in, they do nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And that was giving up a first round pick. That
was some serious business.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Duckstaposed to that Minka trade. Not doing anything now makes
zero sense. And I know that wasn't it the deadline,
but you know what did it do?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Really?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I mean Nka had three good seasons here, three first
team All Pro seasons, but he never won a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Correct? And again, I mean you went out.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And got Mika Fitzpatrick to support Duck Hodges, and you
wouldn't go out and get Jakobe Myers at a much
lesser price to prop up Aaron.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Rodgers who has been doing everything to prop you up
to this point in the season and has made your
team legitimate to this point in the season. So he
deserves that, he deserves a little bit of a bone
thrown his way. And when people, you know, say, oh,
you want to keep those draft picks, you don't want
to get in the business. It's not what the Steelers do.
We're talking a fourth round pick. We're talking about a
third round pick, Like, get out of here, that's nothing.
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You don't even blanket that. Real teams don't even care
about those kind of picks at this time of the year, I.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Think, And they's a real team. They traded two first
round picks for Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That probably tells you they think Danny Dimes is it huh,
Because if that's the case, then I am all for it,
because what else do you need to build that team
up with. They're really complete right now. If that quarterback
is the quarterback, well, not.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Getting Mars at that price has to be nut so
and Seattle got that wide out for New Orleans Shaheed,
He's okay, he can go deep with these stats Tom
that Shahet has forty four catches and four hundred and
ninety nine yards this year.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Those numbers would make him the Steelers leading receiver.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, and again, not a crazy amount of draft capital
that has to go back to the Saints to get Shaheed.
You're just missing out when you're the Steelers. That's what
it feels like. And I really don't understand why people
are okay with it, Like I get that you question
how they would use that wide receiver if he gets
here right, Like, this offense isn't.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Exactly I think they needed a quarterback worse it.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Probably if you told me I could make the Gardener
deal or the Myers deal, I'd make the Gardener deal,
even at the price of two first round picks, even if.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You don't get to go to the podium and say, Pittsburgh,
here's who we pick in the upcoming draft.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
But if you come to me and take that side
of the argument, off, Oh, the Steelers were smart to
not get a wide receiver because where's he going to
fit into that offense. I'd hear it for a little bit,
but then I would disagree with it. Make him fit
into that offense. And like you said, it's that DK
injury thing that's still hanging over you. You need a legitimate
option if that happens.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
What's the locker room thinking about the Steelers doing nothing?
The old dudes who are all in who they're supposed
to win for. What does Rogers think or are they
marks for the logo? Like like the fans aren't a
lot of the media. I just feel like, and now
the story is tom that the Steelers never said they're
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all in.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
They never use those words. That's what the stooges are saying.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Well, when you go get Rogers and DK and Ramsey
and re up what and still have Hayward and get
Darius Slay who sucks, but you got him, you're all in.
I don't care if you use that terminology. You're all
in to win a playoff game?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Does that ever really even happen? Like, do they ever
a team come out and say, hey, we're going all
in this year like and put that term to it.
It's always the actions that you watch them take that
you say, oh, that team is really loading up for
one season. They're really trying to win right now. And
every action that the Steelers took this offseason pointed to that,
except for trading George Pickens. I guess technically, but hey,
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cowboys are three five and one. To your point that
you don't win with guys like that. He's putting up
a ton of stats. The Cowboys think, well, they stink
for reasons beyond Nashural.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, Pickens.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Pickens will will go there, do well there, leave there
and screw someplace else up after that? What about the
moves by the Penguins talk I'm excited to see Morris
Shoff play, especially if it's Tomorrow night against his countryman Ovechkin.
With Ovi sitting on six hundred ninety nine, he's scored
faster than I can at them up. Yeah, eight hundred
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ninety nine. I think I said six to ninety nine before. Uh,
that's that's a fireable offense. But calling Moreshov up wasn't
the plan. Then again, he earned it. He was the
AHL Goaltender of the Month ninety three percent on the
say percentage.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I was just always worried that you call him up
too early for his development. But those guys know more
than me. If they think he's ready, he's ready, so
bring him up.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, they're calling him out out of need because Jari's
gonna be out, they said, I think at least three weeks.
But here's the thing, tom you're calling him up to
try to hold a two game losing streak, which might
be a reason to not play him against Washington, to
not you know, stack that pressure up.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
But then again, if they lose, he'll have to break
a three game uh losing streak.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I think he's gonna play one of the next two games,
so I'd make it tomorrow night, and I would get
the word out there to sell some tickets.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I think that's a great idea. I think they
should announce that, get ahead of it, like you gotta
put fans in the stands. And there have been games
this year, mark even though the Penguins have had a
very good start to their season, where it has been
dead kind of in that arena. Not from the aspect
of the fans that are there. They're passionate fans, but
I'm talking about you see some empty seats on the TV.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Oh no, no question, especially on weeknights.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And again I'm not blasting that they brought up Morrischoff
and I'm certainly a Morrischaw fan. I think he can
I think he can cut it. Let's be honest, Tom.
He has nothing to lose but his chains, and I'd
like to see him play against OVI. Maybe it's fate.
Maybe he does great, maybe at least Jari's not playing.
But again, Jari's numbers were decent save percentage of ninety one,
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but I just do not trust him. As far as
calling up Heinen, I'm disappointed a younger forward didn't come up,
like bros or Avery Hayes, but Heinen has fourteen points
in ten games, Wilkes's leading scorer. I think he played
on the line with Covenan when Coyvenan was real hot down.
They're not sure about that, but again, they want to
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prop up that good start.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
They've kind of become a little bit marks for the start,
and I guess you gotta.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I like that Heinen coming up allows Kindle to skate
on Sid's wing too. Oh, they're gonna make that move
a mooe excited about that for sure. Yeah, so that's
a good product of that. But you could have brought
up an Avery Haze or a Bros And slid him
on that third line and sent it to the third
line too. So I'm kind of torn with that aspect
of it. Like I would have liked to see the
kids lying Kyina still stay intact eight and two, then
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you go, kid.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It would have been it would have been Bros on
that third line, but eight four and two and they're
just trying to keep it stitched together.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And maybe Heinen, you know, does carry over his hot
start at the AHL level to the NHL. That's tough
to think that he will, but I hope they do.
Tap into some of that chemistry with Coyn and they
got to get coven In. Going Covenan at the NHL
level has been a disappointment this year. I gotta tell you, though,
this is the first instance where Dan Muse is one
full of crap because he said he didn't mind a righty,
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righty pair and now he's caught up Ryan Graves to
avoid having a righty, righty pair. First lie that you've
caught him in. Why do you think that is? Why
is there just such an adverse to do that X.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Amount of coaches do X amount of things exactly the
same way in.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Every sport pretty much, even if that means you're not
getting your most talented players on the ice, because if
Ryan Graves is on the ice, you ain't getting your
most talented players out there.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, but I don't know that you're cheating hockey by
not playing Matt Dumba. But Kendall on Sid's line, I
am really excited about that. I still think his long
term future is at center, but I think this is
an opportunity he'll embrace and make the most of him
become a better player because of it, and there's a
chance that might be like Mario and Robbie bron back
in the late eighties, although Kindle's a much better all
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around player than Robbie Brown.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
No offense, Brownie if you're listening.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
But Mario and Brownie thought the game the same and
it made up for Brownie's lack of speed, whereas Kendall
and Sid I think they might also think hockey the same,
and Kendall has a more complete skill set to be sure.
Although Brownie is a point collector, wow.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, hopefully this will have Kindle collecting his fair share
of points, even though he already is goals already this season.
I know Shaeffer is so unbelievable in New York, but
outside chance at the calder for Kendall a little Rookie
of the Year campaign, especially if he plays with sand
for a while and puts up a lot of points.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Too much preconceived about Shaffer because of it, Yeah, I mean,
have you seen him?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
He's amazing, He's pretty good. Yeah, I can pretty shuld
get it. Probably, But Kendall. What a great runner up
that he's become so far this season.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
By the way, I should take the time to salute
Robbie Brown one hundred and fifteen points playing on Mario's wing.
Great guy took Alyssa Milano's virginity. We know who the
boss was. Then one O five to nine, one.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
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Speaker 1 (20:40):
Cash money like that. I'm rich, rich, rich, listen all
day for your chance as some extra cash. On one
oh five nine the X, My dad pulled double shifts
at the Pittsburgh Mill with Mark Madden and I'm off
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for men on.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It is amazing how the stooges are backing the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Doing nothing, but I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Gotta try to get I mean, Dale Ally passed and
God bless him. He did a great job, worked for
the Steelers, a true football guy. But that left the
job with the Steelers and all the stooges wanted. I
rewatched the Steeler game last night and certain conclusions are
easily reached. Ramsey and Duggers should remain the starting safeties.
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Ramsey should be a safety period moving forward, because Thornhill,
Clark and Pepper's suck and Ramsey ain't that guy at
corner no more. I'd used that four to three. Look
more on defense, la the Chargers Jim Harball loves to
run the ball and La can do it four point
eight yards per carry. That four to three look helps
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stop Jonathan Taylor, so I'd use it some more aganst
the Chargers, and not to get the three edge guys
out there together some Again, Herbert gets concussed a lot too.
He's the one running quarterback. Nobody talks about being a
running quarterback, but he might have the most concussions.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
You know why they don't talk about it. It's not
because he's white, it's because he's not black.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And then some basics, run the ball better and don't
ditch the run, and more pressman coverage, play the psy
junior strengths.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Joey Porter Junior.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Played his best game in a long time, playing a
lot of pressman against the Colts. And sure he got
a couple penalties. That's not a disaster if the otherwise
plays well. Tom how good is Herbert a quarterback? Where
would you rate him?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Top five? Top ten? Overrated?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What he's not in the top five, he's probably right
towards the back end of the top ten. His talent
dictates that he could get to the top five one day.
He just hasn't really been able to like put it
all together, you know what I mean, likes.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Sure have they around his behalf.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah around y gott into the playoffs a couple of times,
but has really turned in some crappy playoff performances once
he's gotten there, I mean, just awful ones. So I
don't know. He was probably like number nine, number ten
as far as the quarterback. I know this. He torched
the Steelers the last time they went out to LA.
They played him last year, but he was hurt in
that game. He didn't make it through the game. But
when they went to LA, he rushed for ninety yards
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on nine carries, and he threw for over four hundred
yards too. Just tore him apart.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
He's inconsistent, but he's a guy where that's not necessarily
this damning tag. Like I would say sixty percent of
the time he's real good, maybe two thirds at a time,
and the rest of the time he don't.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Suck, you know. And he for the interceptions that he throws,
Like you look at his stat lines and it's always
like four hundred yards passing, four touchdowns and two interceptions.
I just think dude likes to just throw the ball
around the yard and is willing to kind of push
the envelope sometimes and he gets bitten for it.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I missed the days when you could throw an interception
and it wasn't treated like you gave five people syphilis. Okay,
you have to dare to accomplish, you know, as Bruce
Arians always says, no.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Risk it, no biscuit.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I don't think a turnover is a big deal if
you're making a lot more plays than turnovers. And I
think Harbor and not just you know, in the flat,
not just that dinking duck.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I'm talking about making plays.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think Harbaugh's is in that line of thinking too.
When it comes to Herbert, like, I don't get the
sense that he's willing or that he's feeling like he
needs to, you know, cut back on him because he
turns the ball over too much. He's just letting Herbert
be Herbert. How about Herbert three hundred and five rushing yards.
I know he's awesome at that's.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Deceptive, and again people don't recognize it, not because he's white,
but because he isn't black.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
How About here's some more stats.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
The Chargers have two receivers with more yards than metcalf
and two more with just a few like ten.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yards less than Metcalf.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
The Steelers so lack at receiver and so aren't getting
enough out of.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
DK and the Chargers, Yeah, they have just a ton
of weapons at that receiver position, Lad McConkie Quintin Johnson.
Johnson's really coming on this year. Keenan Allen's having a
late revival of his career going back to LA and
playing for the Chargers. And then you got the rookie
tight end Ronde Gatson. But they've kind of been centering
their passing game around the previous couple of weeks. He's
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been like getting route shares with like ninety one and
eighty eight percent, So he's a big threat. Their two
starting running backs go down the rookie of Mario Hampton
and Naji Harris. This is Vidal guy comes in and
he's still running the ball effectively. Like the offense has
a ton going for it except for their tackles being
out And that's the biggest key.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I think I got to interject.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
We're watching this game here on the big screen in
the studio Chelsea and Klara bag who are in Azerbaijan. Yeah,
and like it's tied to two, which would be a
big result for the team from Azerbaijan. And like when
you're over there, like in this third world nation, and
then you leave the stadium after a bad result and
you see the kids like all bagan for food, Like
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it's got to be depressing.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Or like being in New York.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I'm always so amazed when I'm watching these Champions League
games with you and.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
The punchline work, or like being in New York.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like where at Azerbaijan right now? S name's packed, Mark,
I mean there's like thirty thousand people there. They're all
foaming at the mouth. Like that's everywhere I watch these games.
There was a.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Piece of brand.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Now now getting back to the Steelers Chargers, I feel
like it's a game where the Steelers have put themselves
on the line. Tom. I think when you don't do
nothing and you did just beat Indy, you're saying we're
good enough, Okay, so go out there and be good enough. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think they have to beat the Chargers. You know,
we kind of were predicting that they would get to
this point and this would be such a swing game
for their season. But remember we thought it was going
to be the Packers was gonna be that typical Tomlin
bounce back game, right and then they'd lose to Indy
and then it was all gonna come down to the Chargers.
So we're still at that same point right now. We
just got there in such a weird way that we
never saw coming. It's going to come down to I
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think winning the division or not. I don't want to
sound that dramatic, but what happens in LA against the Chargers.
They win that game, they'll win the North, I think,
or have a very good shot at it.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, the cushion then will be I mean six and three,
with the Ravens having at that point less than half
the season to catch up, it will look daunting to them.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Then again, Baltimore does play Pittsburgh twice.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You get to six and three two, you'll probably be favored.
And I know that doesn't mean you'll win these games,
but you'll be favored again since he at home. Maybe
a slight favorite, slight underdog on the road against the
Bears on Monday Night, but you're looking at a real
shot at being eight and three before the Bills. You
get Bills, then you get Ravens. Eight and three before
that stretch it'd be really really hard to blow the North,
but then they did it last year.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
At that kind of point, dude was just kneeling on
the field, Tom praying. I bet he was praying, Please
don't let me be in Azerbaijan. I'm afraid I've got
some bad news.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You mentioned at the beginning of this segment, some of
the new stuff they did on the defensive side of
the ball. Do you think them using that four to
three kind of helped unlock Peyton Wilson a little bit too?
Maybe he was more comfortable playing with a couple of
inside linebackers next to him, having Malik Harrison out there,
because he had his best game ever.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
That's, oh, by far, his best game ever, and I
thought he got to do more. I thought he didn't
by road. I think they've been in that three four
so much that guys get used to doing the same
thing all the time. And Tom, as it's been said,
creating a bunch of useful tools creates a bunch of
useless people.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But like kind of what you were saying, like we're
it kind of just frees him up a little bit.
He getting Malik Harrison out there, don't have to worry
about the run as much. If I'm Peyton los Sage
jam fine, right, I mean Jonathan Taylor didn't go bananas.
Omalie Harrison does his stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
The thing the Steelers defense did, it's not been talked
about enough because of the what wasn't five sacks and
then the six takeaways. They tackled a lot better, didn't
miss a lot of tackles.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
You know, it was awesome. By the way.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Matt Williamson just Austin period our guru, but he tweets
stuff like he's not an opinions guy, but he finds
stats and facts that just excoriate the Steelers, like the
numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you at sacrifice.
Did you know the Steelers tom are first in the
NFL in three and outs, which despite me thinking Aaron
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Rodgers is playing great, that doesn't reflect well, does it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It surprises me to hear that too, because I wouldn't
think that was the case because I think Aaron Rodgers
is playing great, But that's terrible to lead the league
in that, and that has to be a trend for them,
because I have to imagine last year of the year
before that, they were towards the top of the league too.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And guess who leads the league in miss tackles.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Pittsburgh, No, what player? Oh uh? Patrick Queen?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You can't have your inside linebacker getting the most money
having the Green Dot lead the league in misstackles.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
You know what sucks about him though?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
The two games before this one, even the Green Bay game,
which was a loss, he played pretty good the two
games before the Colts game.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Oh wait?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Or was he bad in the Green Bay gankings? I
don't think anybody was good in the Green He.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Played two good games and then went back right to
be in Patrick Queen?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Doesn't he kind of always do that though? And isn't
that kind of the mark of just maybe an average
player where he has his good games, but he's never
going to be able to put it together consistently. By
the end of the year. They might need Peyton Wilson
to ascend to be that number one.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, I don't know if. I mean, I just don't
think he's that good. I mean, I think he played better.
I'm not think I think you might be right about that.
So then that's even more of a reason to put
three of them out there, right, to put three inside
linebackers on the field more often and stick to that
four to three. And you want to talk about doing
something different, I mean, is there anything more different you
could do than shifting from a three to four to
a four to three as the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I mean that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Well, especially going back and forth during the game.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I love that too.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
No, I like, like I said, it pains me to
say Tomlin did a great job against the Colts. But
Tomlin and his bobo Tara Austin, they did a great
job against the Colts. That defense was not only good,
it was inventive and adjusted.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Pass to continue though we've seen moments in the past
couple of years where they've done inventive things, they've adjusted
for a game specifically, and then they kind of go
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Route eighty eight in Bethel Park, Tom, what have we
got for today's trifecta?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I got a Steelers trifecta today, Mark, on the defensive
side of the ball. I got three younger players that
really need to ascend and almost become order line stars.
Dare I say, maybe they don't have that ceiling, but
I'm gonna give them to you real quick. I got
Keanu Benton, Peyton Wilson, and number one is Joey Porter Junior.
And that's really the one that needs to become a
star player kind of flirt with being that outside shut
(32:14):
down corner.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
And the one with the pedigree to do so. Did
you feel Kanu Benton played Okay, you got the.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Sack, ripped the sack.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I know that Colt's offensive line, for as much you know,
hype as it gets, didn't didn't.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Do so well.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I think you have to say that that's because the
Steelers defensive line played well. I know, like you don't
want to do that, but they did.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And I think maybe their offensive line got crossed up
by that four to three stuff and the extra extra
inside backer all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Which is why I always hated how vanilla that defense
has been over the past couple of years, just cause chaos.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Cause we do what we do and let's see if
they can stop us.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Make it harder on some professionals, you know, make them
have to think a little bit. Oh they're throwing a
different look at me. Oh my god, three outside linebackers
are on the field. Don't just make it. Break the
huddle and up same old defensive formation as last time.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Uh Tom, I really hope that morishoff plays against OVI
tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I feel like it would be a victory for the proletariat.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I believe you're right with that, but I think it's
not gonna happen because that would throw she loss off
the rotation, and I don't know if Dan Muse is
going to do that. I think it's gonna be she
lofts tomorrow, which sucks. I feel like it's just let's
sell some tickets, I know, and it's just even beyond
selling the tickets in mus.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I know he's a by the numbers coach, as he
illustrates by.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Like I said before, he lied about not minding a
righty righty pair, as witnessed by calling up Ryan Graves.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
So he can maintain lefty righty. But you have to
have a sense of the.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Occasion sometime exactly, and like Morrishoff shouldn't make his debut
on the road. Everybody remembers the Flurry debut back when
he lost, but he stopped the penalty shot and you
could tell he was the real thing. You need to
have a sense of the occasion, not just payt inside
the lines.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You're so right, and I so agree with you, and
he's just not gonna do it. It's gonna be she lost tonight.
Murrishoff will get the start at twelve thirty on Saturday
afternoon in New Jersey for his debut, and then it's
a back to back against the Kings on Sunday back
in Pittsburgh. She lost, will start that one too.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Have you ever been to Newark? No, it's like playing
an Azerbaijan. Uh yeah, I mean you gotta have a
sense to the occasion. In fact, that's going to be
You know what, I didn't write a list yet tom
It could be mused.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
If he doesn't start moreshoff tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
It would just feel like such a tease to have
him to get that news yesterday that he's coming up,
all that excitement. You have a day off today to
kind of talk it up, build it up. That's why
you're like, you're right. They should have announced that he's
gonna start against Washington when they made the call up,
so we could be talking about it through that lens
and drive that kind of like ticket sale thing going on.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
But well, the Missunday, the new mayor of Pittsburgh, Kyle
Dubas and Muse, and I think they're excellent at what
they do.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
They have no sense of showbiz whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
You got the Steelers owner doing the dumb thing, not
trading picks because he wants to go to the Ponty
him at the draft in Pittsburgh next day would say,
with pick number YadA, YadA, the Steelers select, and the
whole crowd roars, he's terrible talents flying, Yeah, right right,
He'd rather get that moment than the moment of winning.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
A playoff game.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I really hope you're not right about that. You think
you are. You think that's part of the motivation here.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Don't you think there's an element of that at least.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I'm worried that there's a chance, because that's so Jerry Jones, right.
I mean, that's right up with Jerry Jones type of alley.
That's why Jerry Jones. I think he is making these moves.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Size did Jerry Jones trade for when.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
They traded Michah Parsons Quinn Williams.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Quinn Williams the Jet. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I criticized that because I don't think they're going anywhere.
But somebody brought up a good point on ESPN this
morning that you know they have him for years to come,
and he's really good.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
He is really good. But I just think Jerry, I mean,
they shouldn't have traded Micah. Jerry just likes to be
in the headlines. He's just making these moves to stay
fresh and in the headlines.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Who's a better impact player, Quinn on or Micah? Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Michael Parsons sure than Quinn Williams. Yeah, Michael Parsons is
the defensive player of the year right now.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
But I mean, what about quinnin Williams in a I
mean not well, I mean better than the Jets anyway,
a better scenario than he had.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But look, he's good. He's really good. I think he's
gonna be great for Dallas. Micah Parsons is just a
different kind of cat.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Somebody said on Get Up Today he compared Quinn Williams
to Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
No, too far. I don't even know if Quinn Williams
is by far the best defensive tackle in the game
right now. I mean, think about Sexy Dexi who's in
New York too. I know the Giants think, but Dexter
Lawrence is great. Cam is actually playing pretty well this year.
Not to that level like he's used to, but he's
been having a good season.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I Cam credit Camps generally had a good season. After
pissing me off with the hold in where he got
the okie doak. But he did you know, he did
a real good job against the Colts, against against Q
against Nelson.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, he's a great guard.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
But you know what, I love when Camp has the
interviews after the game, because he just looks like this sweaty,
warn out old guy's just exhausted, like like he just
cut the lawn in August and I wanted the kids
to get the frig off it. But he still has
that old man's strength and he's determined. I give him that.
I give Caim credit words due always have. Yes, I
(37:08):
just don't think he's covered himself in not glory. What's
sort of looking for common sense with the way he's
handled some things.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
If he didn't have that turbulent moment of the contract
issue during training camp, I think we'd be looking at
him in the light of another phenomenal season. This guy's
kind of an ageless wonder at that position. Uh, But
that off field kind of distraction just soured people on
him a little bit. I think I bet he's been fantastic.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I beta in the second bet to make thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's a good bet to make. I think that that's possibility,
and I don't think he's as good as he was
last year when he was a first team All Pro. Either.
I think there's kind of been some you know, up
and down nature to his play, but man, he has
been better than you could have probably imagined the thirty
eight year old would have been. And the batting passes
is still such a big element to his game. Got
that tones started against the Colts early in that one.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I think he's actually played to what's left his potential
more than what has more consistently.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, I think that he has been present in more
games this year. What that was really the first game
that Watt wrecked against.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Them, the first game that he had major, major impact in.
He had two other pretty good games. So let's say
he had impact in three out of eight so far
major impacted one out of eight.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
That's just not enough.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
And I would bet he goes to LA and disappears,
even though they're in such flux at tackle that they'll double,
they'll chip, they'll do the things that Indy for some
reason were arrogant enough that they didn't do.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
If he does disappear, if he is taken out by
the Chargers, then Herbig and Heismith better have monster games
because they're just so bad on the after being a
AFC defense him. Yeah, I won the defensive Player of
the week. I'm good.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I mean, what have you seen about him or even
heard from him that would suggest he's driven?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The consistency isn't there, So that would be a point
in to what you're saying right there. And he's just
too injured, way too often. Like he's almost becoming more
injury prone, if not as injury pune as herbig And
that's always been the knock on him, and.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
They should not have signed him at that length and price,
should not have signed Mooth at that length in that price.
But all the marks that they're all Mooth, Mooth smooth
and Highsmith's dad, he used to be on Twitter. I
probably chased him off. I buried him.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You did. And see that's why I hope high Smith
stays healthy obviously and plays well this year because it
would help the stealer this year, but goes into the
season after a good second half healthy into the offseason
because you you gotta trade him. I think that that's
just such an obvious move to make this offseason, trade
that contract, get out from under that and just transition
to herbig and sawyer as kind of being your secondary
punches to lot.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Somebody tweeted me and suggested we do earlier this week, Tom,
remember I referenced the he LEDs up when country song
hot Dog Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
And they said you should play it.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I've never heard it, and they could go on YouTube,
but I might play it at some point, not now,
but that have.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
You heard it?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I've never heard hot Dog Eye.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
It's so good and it's such like, I'm not sure
if it's a good country song or a parody of
a good country song.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
It's just wild that they went into that genre for
just one song. Just one song was a country song.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, they did the one James Brown song, the Crunch.
Has anybody seen the bridge?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Never heard that one? Anything?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Where is that confounded bridge? One oh five nine x
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