November 21, 2025 • 37 mins
Mark and Tommy Radio talk a ton of Steelers and Bears as that clash is on the horizon. THey do some Penguins talk to as they are back in action against the Wild tonight.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Mark Mannon show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I don't know where to draw the line, so pass
me the violin, cross your fingers. DULEC said on yesterday's
show that Rogers might not play. I haven't seen any
updates from practice yet today, but Dulec wasn't convinced.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Neither am I.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now Rogers did practice yesterday, but its verbiage about safety
and cleared. Now. I don't feel like it's a lost
cause if Rudolph plays, and I don't feel like it's
a definite win if if Rogers plays. In fact, In fact,
I just feel like Chicago's gonna win. The Steelers defense
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won't stop Chicago's offense, won't stop their running game. Chicago
gonna out physical to Steelers on the line of scrimmage.
So that's how I think that game is gonna go.
And we got the River Hunts Championship game at Tulsa
on Saturday at noon tomorrow, come watch the game with
me at the Shiloh Plate and Poor on Mount Washington.
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Kickoff is at noon. That's River Hans versus Tulsa for
all the marbles at Shiloh Plate and Poor on Mount
Washington tomorrow at noon. Penguins hosts of Minnesota. Tonight hockey's
the best, but is at Georgia Tech. In a game,
it would matter if Pitt loses one hundred to ten.
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And by the way that one side of lost the
Notre Dame, combined with Nardoozi being an absolute ass prior
to the game and then calling the time out to
get that garbage time touchdown with five seconds left, it
has killed a lot of the pit football buzz absolutely
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killed a lot of the pit football bus.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Not the diehards, but the.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Cash were like, Wow, that sucked, and the coaches an ass.
I'm not gonna talk about it, and in respect to that,
I'm not gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But mostly we got the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Rogers only took snaps from the shotgun at practice, and
that's not good if they operate only out of the shotgun.
Because Rogers has the bummy wrist, he shouldn't play that
narrows down so badly what they can do on offense.
Let's bring in Tommy Radio tom of Rodgers can only
work out of the shotgun. Doesn't that eliminate play action
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and eliminate Rogers' decision making it the line somewhat.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, without a doubt, Arthur Smith's offense requires a decent
amount of going under center, and Aaron Rodgers when he's
at his best throughout his entire career, when he was
four time MVP, Aaron Rodgers Mark, he needed to go
under center. He was great at operating from under center.
It completely hinders him. I saw him also say that
he could do some pistol stuff, and he's done that
in the past as a workaround. Ain't the same. You
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gotta get under that center's ass and execute that play action.
That's what you gotta do, Mark, And you're right about
the play action.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think I'm gonna do that. Well, you don't have to.
But Rogers does rick the center with Zach Effrin. Maybe
I've said too much.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And if his risk can't then what's the point. Just
put Rudolph out there for this game. I really think
you have a chance to win it with him.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Did you say risk or fist? I said, rist. I
think now you heard Rogers's verbiage. Tom, he left some
wiggle room, he left some doc, didn't he. I mean
he didn't use the word Definitely. Whenever I talk about
whether guy's gonna play or not, until I hear the
word definitely.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm going to air on the side of disbelief.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I feel you, but I kind of think he's playing.
And you're right, his verbiage does leave a little bit
of doubt. But I just think he's gonna go through
practice today and I'm looking right now, still haven't seen
any outdate. Maybe he was calling a bluff or bluff
I guess, but I just think that he is gonna
do whatever it takes to get on the field, and
as long as he's able to get through it pain wise,
he's gonna give the thumbs up. And I think Coach
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T's gonna put him out there. I don't think Coach
T would ever step in in this circumstances, be like,
even though you're saying, yes, I'm benching you for this game,
quote quote.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But that would retire actual coaching in balls. Now, now,
what about xanax? What about painkillers? What I think he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, absolutely right, some needle just shot right into that risk.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, you gotta like the xan x that kind of
that's bad.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It'll mellow him out too much, Yeah it would.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It would be sensory underload, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But Rogers someone that likes to dabble in drugs recreationally.
I like, you know, just shooting him up. He can
he can handle that, you know what I mean. Like
use as much you'd use for a horse. Maybe that
tranquilizer in old school, right that Sean William Scott had
that went into will Ferrell's neck, used that awesome use that.
Maybe that'll get Rogers jacked up enough to play this
game and win iwask a dark room, pull out all
the stops. Uh and if there is that it and
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issues of safety unquote. It feels like Rudolph will play
at some point, don't it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And maybe Rogers at some point, maybe even before the game,
who knows, makes a business decision. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And the Steelers offensive line. I know the Bears don't
generate much of a pass rush, but the Steelers offensive
line has looked really shape the past couple of weeks.
I just feel like we're an obvious play away for
him just having to fall awkwardly, maybe getting stepped on again,
landing on that wrist, and then you have to just
trot Rudolph out anyway, and then maybe you lose Rogers
for the Bills game and then the Ravens game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
See the more I really look at this game, the
more I think Chicago's plays.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Gonna kill him, kill them. I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They have the number two offense, the number four rushing attack.
The Steelers defense stinks outside of takeaways. That Steelers defense stinks.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Bears defense ain't that grady either outside of takeaways, which
they leave the league in and they don't kill teams.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, but then you have a breakdown to offense versus offense,
and the Bears is better. Oh, their Bears is better.
I think Steelers offense. Tom, I can't believe the Steelers
have won six games. I have no idea how the
freak that happened.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I think the Bears can definitely win the game, but
I'm not gonna go to kill the They just don't
kill anybody, and they haven't played anybody really like this
is probably the best team the Bears have played this year. Honestly,
do you think the Steelers are better than the Vikings
and the Cowboys? Those are the only two other contenders.
They beat the Vikings, Yeah, so that cross them off. Cowboys.
They'd probably lose to the Boys. That offense is sick
in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Then shut down pickets. They would contain him in CD.
Did you see that. I'm gonna talk about this more later.
Did you see Cede Lamb admitted that him and Pikets
got bench for that first series because they missed curfew
and were out drinking in Las Vegas. I heard they
were shooting craps with Eric Carlson.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I did see that story, and I saw that somebody
said that Ceedee Lamb was puking in a trash can,
like caught him like at six in the morning.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right, But he also said he could hold his legs.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
He refuted that part of it, not denying that they
were out and missing curfew, but just the part about
puking in a trash can, because that ain't me.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's not how ced Lamb. I could hold my liquor, Yeah, exactly.
So in other words, you can miss curfew and drink
and still playing the game as long as you're a
functioning alcoholic. Were good, but he described as a functioning alcoholic.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, we're good. It's all clear, then, Tom or the.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Steelers soft I've been asking that question all week. Who
was a physical force on that team besides you know
the usual suspects. Mount Washington on offense, and Ramsey and
Duggar on defense.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I mean you took all the answers that I was
thinking of right there, especially Ramsey. I mean, Ramsey really
sets the tone. Her Big isn't physical, right like Herbig
sets a tone in a dition.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Just Rastle physical when he's Availa when he's not hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe he's too physical, he hurts
himself too much. But yeah, Ramsey was the one that
jumped right out to me, and he got here this year.
Doug Er got here like three weeks ago and he
already jumped up to the top of the list. As
far as a physical player is concerned, you do need
some nastiness and they just don't have it. I got
it's a ton of nasty. I bet you he's a
little nasty.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Hard to tell what you know? Offensive lineman on the
network feedbah I.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Would say, so everybody I talked to he says he's
great and like he's coming along perfect hill.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Billy probably is too.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I think he's got a nasty The.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Center does assume the fetal position, but he's illiterate. That
would make me mad.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I think his best attribute is run blocking, too, which
is just all nastiness. So I think there's a little
bit there, but you're right, like there's just not that
hard edge on these guys.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Ramsey is proof that it helps to see a guy
play every game because Ramsey has much more phish physical
edge that I would have guessed having seen him play,
you know, only sporadically a game here and there.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, And that's why I think it's such an obvious
thing to move to safety, right because that would be
the biggest hang up a corner. Going to safety usually
doesn't work because corners don't want to tackle. Corners don't
want to get physical. Ramsey embraces that. I think he
could be in a great safety. I think I saw
Ben saying this podcast either this week or last week
he could be in all pro safety. I don't know
about that far, but his coverage is going to be
real good as far as the safety goes coming from corner,
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and that physicality is impressive.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
He could be a Pro Bowl safety playing the flag
football game when five others opt out, rip rip off
the flag.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And strangle Jamar Chase with it.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Speaking of Mount Washington, I mentioned a moment ago he's
listed at two sixty four. He admitted he's three to eleven,
and speaking as a fat guy who's lied about his
weight for a lot of his life, I feel like
he's still lying. He weighs more than me now thanks
to waken one eighty.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I bet you he's in like three twenty right, three
twenty three twenty five range.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Three point forty wouldn't shock me, because you could see
in that podcast when they asked him what his weight
was point blank, he was a little bashful already, like
he was like, I kind of don't want to say.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
He even said I haven't weighed myself in a while
on one of them.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Would he be embarrassed?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
His weight's a big weapon.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I don't know, but maybe he didn't want to reveal it.
Maybe he didn't want to reveal the true number like
it would give something away. But someone he was like,
I didn't get waided in a while, and the one
player was like, that's bs. You get weighed like every week,
so of course you know what your weight is, and
there's like, ah, three eleven, So I bet yeah he understood.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I used to lie about my weight for years, using
the same number all the time. I think it was
two seventy six. My friend Smitty who listens. He could
text me now and give me the exact number, but
I think it's two seventy six. And here's the funny part.
I got so used to lying and using that figure.
There were a couple of tubs. I used it when
I actually had lost weight and weighed less.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And did you also ever use it when you were
like at a doctor's office on accident, when you have
to actually tell it?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Way?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, way, stupid question. There was there any significance to
two seventy six, Like why you chose that?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I don't put it out of the sky.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I don't know why, but yeah, you got to get
wag at the doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, that was dumb. And the numbers don't why and
they spelled disaster for me at the cardiologist.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Now with with Washington, that way will catch up.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Tom. You can't be a tight end your whole career
at three eleven. Or maybe they do move him to
tackle at some point.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
When he starts to lose that step, maybe that's when
you make a transition, maybe, which is probably.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That good a blocker.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Now that the question is.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He a good blocker period or a good blocker for
a tight end.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Is he a good I think he is a good
blocker period, But can he do it Mark for like
sixty to sixty five plays against a Miles Garrett, a
Max Crosby, You know what I mean? Like you're never
coming off the field as a left tackle, You're always
blocking these edge rushers. You need to have consistency there.
That's a huge question mark when it comes to him. Yeah,
he can do it for a rep, but this is
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the sixty reps by for him.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know what I'd do? Have another cheeseburger.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Nine it's the Mark. Jador Sanders, the Cleveland rookie quarterback
son of Neon, gets his first NFL start at Vegas Sunday.
I'm gonna be watching that. That's after the Steeler game.
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Don't forget. You can join me for the Steeler game.
A watch party at Marino's American Eatery in Greensburg. I
normally don't like craft beer places, but they got a
couple of pretty good ones, which is my way of
saying they have something that really approximate brand name light beer.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But it is good, So see it.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Marino's American Eatery for the Steeler game Sunday, Chador at Vegas.
I assume he won't miss Kurfey like Ceedee Lamb and
George Pickens, He'll just miss a bunch of his targets
when the game starts. Chador has had a week of
snaps with the first team, but I bet he still sucks.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's outlandish and silly.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
The Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland coach, a two time Coach of
the Year, and everybody around the league thinks he's a
great coach, and he's being judged because Wow, he uses
a fifth round pick with a famous name who just
ain't never gonna make it. That's not fair to Stefanski. Really,
the way that team's run, with the owner meddling and
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making every bad decision like drafting Shador and signing to
Shaun Watson to a contract, there's still not out from under.
I give Stefanski at credit for not just bolting. I
trade Tom went for Stefanski in a minute, in at
absolute minutes, and I still like that that Ceedee Lamb
and George Pickett's story Miss Curfew out drinking just got
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bench for series, which is no punishment at all. Lamb
admitted he was drinking but said he wasn't throwing up
in the garbage can like somebody said, because he can
hold his liquor. I just absolutely love football, Tom. If
you were in Vegas, would you miss curfew?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, no question. I've never been to Vegas, so if
that was my first trip to Vegas, I'd break curfew,
especially if I was someone like Ceedee Lamb. That's an
Aldo rain showed out situation. You're not really going to
get in too much trouble there.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I get chewed out. You're the best player on that team.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Now, if it had been Pickens by himself, does he
get pinched?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, Pickens is playing extremely well this year. If it's
the fifth string wide receiver, then yeah, he doesn't get
a hat.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You've never been to Vegas? Nope?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Atlantic City.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Been to Atlantic City more than a couple times.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I'd like it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I split my head open if you remember a few
months back at their friend's wedding there so not great
recent memories, but I always enjoy going to Atlantic City.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Tom. I hate to get personal, but you've been dating
your now wife, like we've talked about this week since
you were eleven. Yes, do you feel like you've missed
out on anything, No.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
What about drugs?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Who says I'm not allowed to do drugs because I've
known my wife since I was eleven twelve years old.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay with that mine, give me your perspective on the
Steeler game, because I'm picking Chicago.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
However, trupidaciously, I'm leaning towards the Steelers. I just don't
think the Bears are that good. I really don't. They
haven't really been anybody. I don't think the Steelers are
great either. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I agree they haven't beaten anybody. But their offensive numbers
are are good. They're close to overwhelming. They are second,
running fourth overall.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Against garage teams. And I'm not saying the Steelers are
some great team and the steel Curtain's going to roll
into Chicago and shut them down. I just have a
feeling that the Steelers are gonna win a mucky, kind
of crappy game. This is a big pressure spot for
the Bears, like this is the first game that they're
playing as the leading team in the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
They got a game against the Steelers that brand name.
You know, they're gonna add some legitimacy to the season.
By beating the Steelers. Whether you think the Steelers are
great or not, they just will so.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I just feel like the Steels are gonna pull out
like a twenty three to twenty win.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I think Kayleb Boyams might have a coming off party
against what's perceived to be a good defense. Well, this
is a defense that is terrible. You know, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I think he might rip them apart. I think the
Steelers defense is terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It's getting better in the run category, it's trending up.
It's now thirteenth in the league.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And again they can use their veteran guile to worry
him to turn over.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, here's the thing, though, Mark, they're so bad against
the pass. They're still the worst passing defense in football.
You can rip yardage against them, and maybe that's where
Kayler Williams has his best game of the year through
the air. He's not been very accurate. Maybe he gets
some accuracy against the Steelers. Maybe he has like a
nice three hundred yard game.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Have you noticed they used the word guyle a lot.
It's a lot. Aaron Rodgers has guyle. The Steelers defense
has guyle. That's a nice way of saying they don't
got much else. If the Steelers lose to drop the
six and five and Baltimore beats the Jets, which they will,
and it's a tie for first place with the game
at Baltimore looming on December seventh, a day that will
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live in infamy. Are the Steelers in trouble or back
to square one? Kind of? At the very least.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Now, I think they're in trouble if you allow the
Rags Sunday, if that scenario plays out, if you allow
the Ravens to catch you after being one in five
without having to even play.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Year three games ahead, and they caught you without any
head to.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Head, without any game, without them helping themselves at all,
So that would just be I think, an absolute disaster.
I want that one game cushion before the day that
lives in infamy.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, don't don't steal that.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You'll never make what's that line from meingirls, You'll never.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Make sech a thing I intend to make.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
A day that lives in infamy, will live in infamy
A thing tom that result last night. First off, I
don't think Buffalo is very good, except for Josh Allen.
Second off, that result, Like I said in my open,
that sucks both those teams into the wild card race,
and that ain't good for the Steelers. It would have
been better if Buffalo would have won to kind of
push Houston back and stayed, you know, somewhat with the
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chance to catch New England. But now that ain't gonna happen,
and Houston's right in it too. Yeah, and Jacksonville still
is too.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So now there's a third time who beat The steel
Charges are firmly in it. The Chiefs are still in
the mix right now. You can't rule them out. So
there's three teams in the way.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You will not make you boy, am I gonna be
like Notre Damus when the Chiefs don't make it? Because
I said that before the season started, confirm that you did.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And the Texans winning is huge as far as that goes,
because them getting the six and five is a big
deal in that regard. The Bills are gonna make the playoffs.
They're gonna be a wild our team. I still believe
that Josh Allen might win around pull an upset as
a wildcard beating one of the division winners.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Maybe it's the Steelers at Akrocher stadium.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
He can't play you know, Superman six touchdown football, four
straight games to win a super Bowl, right, No chance.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, no way. I mean they're not gonna make the playoffs.
It's the Bills. You don't think the Bills are gonna No,
I'm talking about the Bills. No.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I think the Bills will be a wildcard. I just
don't think they can make a super Bowl run. But
the way their team.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Is, I don't think so either. But it depends who
they play.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Well, that's what I was saying, Like they could be
the wildcard that comes an acrochur and he just goes
nuts Josh Allen and wins the wildcard game.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
He will it beat him twice an acrosser. He's gonna
beat him next week too. Yeah right, Okay, So like
that because the Steelers, I mean, they just can't.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Stop him, no chance, like he and especially after losing
this game, like he is just gonna feel so much
pressure to have to rack up as many wins as
he can before they go to New England on December fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
By the way, the Chiefs the same thing.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
If they did somehow make the playoffs, they're to run
the table either. Oh, I don't think so, and a
lot of people would predict they would. But I hear
people saying, you know well that you can never cut
out Mahomes. Well, I'm not cuting Mahomes. I'm kind of
not the rest of the team, and I don't think
he's quite at the level he had been, whether because
of all that playoff, extra game fatigue or not not
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quite at that level.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't think that they would be able to go
into Denver right now, as weird as this sounds, right,
it sounds like a bad take just because of the
track record of the Chiefs, But I just don't think
currently they'd go into Denver and win it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
If we pay too much attention to track track records.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, every game is a separate, distinctive currents and things change.
Denver's getting home, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Get older, teams get better, teams get worse teams add.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And subtract Denver getting home field advantage. I'd be awful
tempted to pick them to go to the super Bowl.
That's one of the tougher home field advantages you can
have to have to go through there in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
In a way, Tom, that's why I kind of pooh Pooh.
The notion that that Rogers is what twenty five and
four or twenty five and five against Chicago twenty four
and five, I think, yeah, because this isn't those Bears,
and Rodgers isn't in his prime with that Green Bay team.
Same thing with the Steelers. One and twelve at Chicago.
Those numbers, I mean, there's something to talk about. I
certainly have and will do, but they're really meaningless.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Plus that was in the context of him playing for
the Packers, So the the rest of the team is
also juiced to beat the Bears too, to beat their
art rival.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Rest of the Steelers don't really care about beating the Bears.
I mean, they could say, hey, we want to do
this for Rogers, but how far does that really go.
This isn't the Ravens, this isn't the Browns.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't think they're saying that we haven't ripped TJ.
Watt lately, but I'd like to now because he's invisible.
No sacks last week. Six on the year, guess where
he ranks in the league for sacks.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh, he's got to be like probably twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Time for sixteenth. That contract is already so evidently a mistake.
And who said that it was a mistake? Who was
that before it was signed? It was me Mark mad
NAT's who just like I said, Kansas City, I am
a regular Notre dameis. And by the way, what's that
reference from there's a movie where they mispronounced Nostra Damas
is Notre dameous And I keep mimicking that. I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'll never make fetch a thing either.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I just know the Chappelle Show take on Nostra Damis.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh my god, was that Paul Mooney. It was tremendous.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's seriously, I can't I there was so much like like,
I can't repeat almost any of it now, but it's
so good Paul Mooney. I'm glad Chappelle later in Mooney's
career because he since past gave him, gave him a
platform because Mooney is one of the funniest m efforts
that's ever walked the face of the earth.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
No question, that segment was great, and he did the
ask a black dude too. We can say that, you can't.
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
You know, you know what Negro Damas would have would
have predicted great things for Sudor Sanders, no question about
that him, Josina and uh Cam Newton.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So anyway, back.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
To what we talked about the Steelers lack of physicality
is what easy to play against. I mean, maybe that's
not the word I'm looking for, but like, if you're
a tackle, he's not gonna beat you up. He's gonna
try to run around you and you're gonna have your
hands full. He's not gonna he's not gonna hurt you
physically though.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's not like a Harrison game, you know what I mean,
where he just roughs you up, completely beats you up.
As you're saying, when I think of Watt's dominance, it's
always about speed. It's always about beating you with the speed,
having that kind of like quick sacks and almost like
a Cobra.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Strike with hit boom, it's over. Yeah, exactly. I just
got a texture my man Smithy, the number one, indeed
two seventy six, which I do not wait now, but
I'm getting there thanks to Awaken one eighty. Who should
pay me more money for droppins like that? Okay, up next,
some hockey talk, as we got the Penguins at home
against Minnesota tonight Billy G in the Hospit Billy Garreon,
the legend of Billy G.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
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Speaker 2 (22:02):
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We got the Penguins hosting Minnesota tonight. Let's talk to
Tommy Radio.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Tom.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We got three games at home, three beatable opponents, starting
with Minnesota this evening. It seems like a big stretch
to not not get out in front, but at least
maintain what you're doing. Oh, no question.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I think five out of six points in this homestand
is that that's not getting too greedy?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Is it be good enough for me?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I think that's what the goal should be. There's stiffest
test this probably tonight too, because Minnesota is playing a
lot better. I won three straight. They're like seven two
and one in their last ten. I think so they're
they're back in the playoff conference. Yeah right, he's a force.
You crushed him in Minnesota earlier. This year though, four
to one and you've just been waiting at home, right,
you've been off for four or five days since coming
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back from Sweden.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, but sometimes that that don't help you, Like you
think it might the first.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Game, but then it can go to knock some Rust
off and then maybe Saturday against the Crack and that's
where you just like come out, shot out like a cannon.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You know, you can knock the Rust off very easily.
Thomas to scratch Brian Rust, but they can. He's top six.
An anonymous player told Yoe that the Penguins would have
been competitive last season if they'd gotten this year's goaltending. Now,
last year's goaltending was awful and Jari he was there
last year as well as this. But was the goaltending
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last year that bad? And is it that good now?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I'm not ready to say it's that good now. I'm
still kind of waiting for the other shoot to drop.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'd rank it a B minus now. I would rank
it no better than a D plus last year and
maybe a D. A lot of people thought Ned was good.
Ned sucks major upgrade with and Jari's.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Playing way better this year than last so far.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Is it wrong of me though, to just still wish
we could be rid of Jari and just roll forward
with Love and Mushoff as the tandem.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, if you think more Shof's better right now, well
if they think then yeah, but the plan wants for
him to stay in the A this year barring injury,
and I think they should follow that plan as long
as Jari and Shiloff's keep playing at the level they're at. Yeah,
you're right, but it's I mean, things.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Can change because of their place in.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
The standing true, and it's just so tempting with she
loves in Murshov clearly being the future there, she loves
under twenty four, Mershov's twenty one years old. Like that's
the net right there for the next five years.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
More Shof's better in shootouts than either.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You might think that's a small thing, but it's a
big deal when you're really in a tight playoff race,
which they absolutely will be. This will go down to
the end, and that's the best case scenario.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
For the Penguins.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
They have to get bold and do what you've been saying.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
They won't, but they have to get bold. They have
to be the team.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I'm gonna try to muse sometimes chats with you know,
individual members the media. After his post game, I'm gonna say, hey,
would you ever do this? I'd like to hear what
he thinks.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Try to present it like you'd look like a genius,
you know what I mean, like Aasamov, Like you'd be
the guy that would.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Be praised for them.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I think he already thinks he's a gene.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Well, then no one would ever think to do it,
no one would try to do it. You do it,
and you're successful at it. All of a sudden you're
this cutting head coach, and then maybe you're the one
that's the pioneer, and more teams will start to do it.
It's such an obvious situation to try it, though, because
she loves is so bad in the shootout, you have
to pull him. Whether it's Jarry, is the backup O Mirashov,
either ones a veteran.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I know what I would do. I would go to shilloffs. Listen,
we're practicing shootouts now. Maybe you'll get better the next
time you're in a shootout of it. If it don't improve,
then we got to start pulling you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
It has to be a bit of a mental thing. Too, right,
because remember he had that amazing save against Nashville. When
he started his game in the Global Series as a
breakaway from Predators had him dead to rights. He had
an incredible say, you.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Have a breakaways, you're different because you ain't got time
to think and the mental yesh shooter slows down in
the shootout. You can't be better a breakaway. I do too,
but it's a factor. You can't do it on a
breakaway now right. Another kind of Penguiny news item is
Malkin did an interview and I'm not sure it broke
new ground except he named team specifically, said he only
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wants to play in Pittsburgh, doesn't want to go some
place like Colorado or Miami. We always thought Miami because
he's got a home there and that's where his wife
has always resided. And he said he wants to play
one or two more years. Now. Him making that public
is shrewd on his part, because he's putting the ball
in the Penguins court already and making them the bad
guys for all the genomaniacs out there in advance.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh and he's capitalizing on a lot of good genopr
and rightfully so, because Gino has played really well this year,
so it should be getting good pr But it is
a great time for him to advance this story. There's
a lot of buzz about him own Gino getting a
second win. I just think it would be a mistake,
and I know you do too, to sign h The thing.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Is, you can't block Kindle from being the number two center.
You can't just turn him into a third line center
unless Kindle isn't what they think he is. But I
know what they think he is currently and it's not
a bottom six.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And no signs are pointing to that. And again it's
still a long season ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
But I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
People don't get that you can't hinder Kendall's progress to
serve nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I think it'd be the best thing in the world
to keep Geno.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, and I've seen people say this to you on
Twitter too, and this has come up that another thing
they don't get. Well, well, if Kendall can't beat malcol
out for second line center, well then he doesn't deserve
it. It got nothing to do with deserve.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Kendall's a better two hundred foot player than Malkin right now,
right this second I mean that's not to say he
could beat him out for number two center right now,
because Malkin has twenty three points in nineteen games. And
speaking to which, if Malclin keeps that kind of production up,
it is a tough decision. But you're not paying him
for what he's doing, you know, in the first nineteen
games this year, and obviously they're not going to talk
to him about it even till after the year's over.
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But even let's say he averages a point of game
this year, can he do it again next year at
age forty? That's a big assumption in this situation.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I mean, Kyle Dubis has got to make a tough decision,
you know what I mean when it comes to these
three guys, the Big three, you can't just always keep
kicking the can down.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
The road for I think two more years.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
This is the one that comes up, Gino, So this
is your first tough decision that you have to make.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
What I say to Sid.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
If Sid tries to, you know, influenced Gino here, I'd say, Okay,
he's on your wing all eighty two games. You still
want them? Nope? He would say, no, he does not
want them. I don't know what it's said, like to
be there when the conversation was happening.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It wouldn't be a flat out now, but it'd probably
be like we'll have to see you know what I mean,
like well.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You know is saying in in you know, putting stuff
out there like he is because he knows they'll have
sid support. Now.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Gino fading this year like this momentum could carry into
the offseason, which makes the decision even harder because he's
gonna get what almost a month off in February because
of the Olympic break. It is set up for him
to have a burst down the stretch, have a nice
march in April to finish the season, and then hopefully
the way the Penguins are right now, it.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Makes the decision all the tougher. And if they win
a series, my god.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
He'd probably be back right for better or for worse,
he'd probably bring him back.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
At that point. On my prediction, he's back no matter
no matter what, miss the playoffs, even he could lose
a leg. Tom One one other thing that's of discussion
with the Penguins. It looks like is gonna go to
Wilkes for conditioning. That's what I hear because he couldn't
go there otherwise, but he's been scratched I think six games. Now,
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once you scratch for five, you can go to the
AH for conditioning assignment, not get returned to juniors, as
that agreement with Major Junior mandates. And then I hear
he's gonna go play for Canada in the World Juniors.
But World Juniors is over a month away. How long
can Brunick not play?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
How long are you allowed to be on the conditioning
assignment in Wilks It's like two weeks or something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's two weeks. I'm not one thousand percent sure.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
So that's two weeks.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
It eats into the month a little bit there that
you have to wait until the World Juniors. They clearly
just don't think that Juniors will do anything for his
development right to send him back to that league like
they must think that that will do That will do
no good.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
He'll just stay in neutral again, Tom, I don't think
they know what to do right now. I think they
trust his talent impeccably so, but they just don't like
what they see on the ice. And that's it's tough
to kind of bridge that when you make the decision.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
And then you look at Kendall too, who is just
you know, soaring past every expectation that you could ever have.
And I'm not saying that they look at Kendle and
then they say, Ah, Brunick, why can't you be like Kendall?
But I get where they're coming from, where it's a
little bit of a disappointment here where he's not as
far along as they had hoped. There was a little
bit of talk last year right coming out of training camp,
like do you try to bring brunic up for ten
games last year before you send him back down to juniors.
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So it is upsetting to see him not take to
the NHL as smoothly as we'd hope. But I think
I think, I think two weeks in the is gonna
be good.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's tough for a defenseman because he the toughest position
of adjustment from from junior's AHL whatever to the NHL, and.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
He played in the A last year during the playoff
run for Wilkes. So I think it'll do him some
good a couple of weeks down there, and then when
you bring him back up, I'd throw him in there
for a game, right Mark, you got to try him
before you decide to make your final decision.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well, or maybe he goes to the AHL and he
plays a few games before World Juniors. And again, this
is just what I've heard. I don't know for sure
they're doing that, but but it's what I've been told
by somebody who probably knows, and it seems logical to me.
It says right here, Tom, the standard NHL conditioning assignment
could last up to fourteen consecutive days. Up next, we
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now it's time for the Trifecta, brought to us by
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what have we got for today's trifectum?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
For today's Triffecta, I've got three Bears stats that I
think are pretty relevant when it comes to the game
on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Three Bears like the like the children.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So this is the football team, Okay, this is about
the team in Chicago. Number three, the Bears lead the
NFL and interceptions. We all know that with fifteen, but
when you look at it from an individual state point,
it's even more impressive. Kevin Byern has the most in
the league at five. Then Tremaine Edmonds and Nashan Wright
have four each, so they literally have the top three
interception getters in the NFL this season. So you got
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to protect the football. Number two. Rogers is good at
and I think Rudolph is actually pretty decent at as well,
not horrible, or at least put it this way, if
Rudolph does throw a pick, it won't snowball, you know
what I mean, Like he won't be like, oh, I'm
gonna just keep throwing pick after pick after pick. Number
two the Bears run the ball at Soldier Field in
the games in Chicago forty nine percent of the time,
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and they are the second best rushing offense in football.
We've talked about that already, So you're going to have
to stop the run. They commit to it more than
any team when they're at home. But the number one
stat that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
By the way, that stat their commitment to the running
game and their success at it tells me that the
Steelers get down by a couple scores, it's game, it's over.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
They'll just punch the lights out, yep. Number one, Caleb
Williams scrambles on twenty two point three percent of his dropbacks.
That's only behind Jade and Daniels, and Daniels has been
hurt for a couple of weeks. So this is the
quarterback that scrambles the most in the NFL. Not talking
design runs here, I'm talking about his read's not there,
he takes off and those it's.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
A metric indicate whether or not he scrambles the best.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well, he has had four straight games of at least
twenty five rushing yards off of scrambles. Twenty five plus
rushing yards off scrambles. Yes, not cold plays, not called
plays like they will call RPOs too. So don't get
me wrong, there will be some design stuff with Williams,
but he's so good at escaping pressure and getting you know,
five six seven yards out of a bus to play,
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the Steelers have got to be able to grab him
in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
That's the trifecta brought to us by Danny's Peach and
Hogies on Route eighty eight. Tom I did a call
him for the trip, calling out Jeff Passon for all
the Horsebineur. He talked about the pirates like being in
for Schwarber, and of course we discussed that all week
on this program. But I learned now the Trek Scooble,
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the cy On Award winner in the America League for Detroit,
that he may well be traded this offseas. And even
though he's won two straight cy Young Awards, and even
though Detroit had a great season and got in the playoffs,
he's entering his third year of arbitration, and they figured
that na's the time to trade him while he has
maximum value. And I was surprised to learn, especially with
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Skeens having his first year of arbitration next year in
twenty twenty seven. I should say after this coming season.
The Scooba only got paid ten point one five million
dollars this year and he agreed to that prior to arbitration.
That strikes me as a really low figure. And wonder
if maybe I'm talking out my backside when I say
Skiens is going to get you know, thirty or forty
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million in arbitration.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I was surprised to hear that too, when you told
me that at the break. And then I looked up
what the estimate is for this year's arbitration on Scoobal
and it's only like seventeen point eight eighteen million dollars?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Would that be?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
It makes no sense to me, And I wonder tell you, let's.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Say Skeens only gets twenty million arbitration and they don't
pay that. Oh my god, my god, that that I mean,
like maybe you can't keep him for at least one
year of arbitration.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
My only theory is so the contracts that we were
looking at in the past was like the Soda remember,
like Wan Soda got like thirty million or something like that.
Something crazy and arbitration. I wonder if the arbitration board
in a weird way when you look at it, just
a singular year thing, which is what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Value.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
You're on the field every game as a hitter more
than a pitcher who's only pitching every fifth game, and
that's why the value is so low. I don't know,
I really don't get it. I'm trying to find a reason.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I mean, I yeah, I don't agree with that reason.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I just think pitching is the biggest part of the
It is then again, Redo somewhat by pictures being pulled
early in their star trade too, like Scooble was in
the final game of the Alds. That still makes no
sense to me. It makes no sense, especially if you
were thinking then that you might rad him. Yeah, I
don't let him. Bitch toly died that arm fell off.
Then I told them to throw right handed.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
If the Tigers do trade Scooble, if you're a Tiger fan,
that's gonna suck, Don't get me wrong. But at least
they've given you something in your lifetime, right, I mean,
at least they've done stuff with it.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
They spent and built, yes and God to a peak.
And now if they trade Scooble and wind up kind
of burning it down. I understand that too.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And they've had peaks like if Tom was a Detroit
Tiger fan growing up, you'd have Miguel Cabrera forever justin
Verland or Don. Yeah, I'm saying like if you were me,
and yes I am, as a Detroit Tiger fan, though,
like there is moments here where it's actually exciting baseball.
So yeah, it sucks. We're trading skirts.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Never build to a.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Peak, never, so at least you'd say, hey, we're trading Schooble.
At least my team has the track record of building
to a peak.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
And you know, it looked like that might be the
philosophy when they you know, made the playoffs in thirteen,
fourteen and fifteen and then did burn it down, but
they never built it back up. And like I've said
many times, and it's obviously correct, that's it. Nothing spent
more in that period, didn't win enough, His profits weren't
what they were had he not spent at all, and
he learned from that.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
However, perversely, that's it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It spooked him.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
It's no coincidence that you haven't seen a multi year
contract given to a free agent since ivon Nova was
at twenty eighteen. He got spooks from what happened to
him in that stretch where he actually decided to try
to win and it wasn't working as far as a
profit was concerned.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
But Tom, I've seen the future. It's trading Mitch Keller
for Tarrek Scouble. One oh, five, nine,
This is the Mark Mannon show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I don't know where to draw the line, so pass
me the violin, cross your fingers. DULEC said on yesterday's
show that Rogers might not play. I haven't seen any
updates from practice yet today, but Dulec wasn't convinced.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Neither am I.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now Rogers did practice yesterday, but its verbiage about safety
and cleared. Now. I don't feel like it's a lost
cause if Rudolph plays, and I don't feel like it's
a definite win if if Rogers plays. In fact, In fact,
I just feel like Chicago's gonna win. The Steelers defense
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won't stop Chicago's offense, won't stop their running game. Chicago
gonna out physical to Steelers on the line of scrimmage.
So that's how I think that game is gonna go.
And we got the River Hunts Championship game at Tulsa
on Saturday at noon tomorrow, come watch the game with
me at the Shiloh Plate and Poor on Mount Washington.
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Kickoff is at noon. That's River Hans versus Tulsa for
all the marbles at Shiloh Plate and Poor on Mount
Washington tomorrow at noon. Penguins hosts of Minnesota. Tonight hockey's
the best, but is at Georgia Tech. In a game,
it would matter if Pitt loses one hundred to ten.
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And by the way that one side of lost the
Notre Dame, combined with Nardoozi being an absolute ass prior
to the game and then calling the time out to
get that garbage time touchdown with five seconds left, it
has killed a lot of the pit football buzz absolutely
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killed a lot of the pit football bus.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Not the diehards, but the.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Cash were like, Wow, that sucked, and the coaches an ass.
I'm not gonna talk about it, and in respect to that,
I'm not gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But mostly we got the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Rogers only took snaps from the shotgun at practice, and
that's not good if they operate only out of the shotgun.
Because Rogers has the bummy wrist, he shouldn't play that
narrows down so badly what they can do on offense.
Let's bring in Tommy Radio tom of Rodgers can only
work out of the shotgun. Doesn't that eliminate play action
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and eliminate Rogers' decision making it the line somewhat.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, without a doubt, Arthur Smith's offense requires a decent
amount of going under center, and Aaron Rodgers when he's
at his best throughout his entire career, when he was
four time MVP, Aaron Rodgers Mark, he needed to go
under center. He was great at operating from under center.
It completely hinders him. I saw him also say that
he could do some pistol stuff, and he's done that
in the past as a workaround. Ain't the same. You
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gotta get under that center's ass and execute that play action.
That's what you gotta do, Mark, And you're right about
the play action.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think I'm gonna do that. Well, you don't have to.
But Rogers does rick the center with Zach Effrin. Maybe
I've said too much.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And if his risk can't then what's the point. Just
put Rudolph out there for this game. I really think
you have a chance to win it with him.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Did you say risk or fist? I said, rist. I
think now you heard Rogers's verbiage. Tom, he left some
wiggle room, he left some doc, didn't he. I mean
he didn't use the word Definitely. Whenever I talk about
whether guy's gonna play or not, until I hear the
word definitely.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm going to air on the side of disbelief.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I feel you, but I kind of think he's playing.
And you're right, his verbiage does leave a little bit
of doubt. But I just think he's gonna go through
practice today and I'm looking right now, still haven't seen
any outdate. Maybe he was calling a bluff or bluff
I guess, but I just think that he is gonna
do whatever it takes to get on the field, and
as long as he's able to get through it pain wise,
he's gonna give the thumbs up. And I think Coach
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T's gonna put him out there. I don't think Coach
T would ever step in in this circumstances, be like,
even though you're saying, yes, I'm benching you for this game,
quote quote.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But that would retire actual coaching in balls. Now, now,
what about xanax? What about painkillers? What I think he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, absolutely right, some needle just shot right into that risk.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, you gotta like the xan x that kind of
that's bad.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It'll mellow him out too much, Yeah it would.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It would be sensory underload, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But Rogers someone that likes to dabble in drugs recreationally.
I like, you know, just shooting him up. He can
he can handle that, you know what I mean. Like
use as much you'd use for a horse. Maybe that
tranquilizer in old school, right that Sean William Scott had
that went into will Ferrell's neck, used that awesome use that.
Maybe that'll get Rogers jacked up enough to play this
game and win iwask a dark room, pull out all
the stops. Uh and if there is that it and
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issues of safety unquote. It feels like Rudolph will play
at some point, don't it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And maybe Rogers at some point, maybe even before the game,
who knows, makes a business decision. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And the Steelers offensive line. I know the Bears don't
generate much of a pass rush, but the Steelers offensive
line has looked really shape the past couple of weeks.
I just feel like we're an obvious play away for
him just having to fall awkwardly, maybe getting stepped on again,
landing on that wrist, and then you have to just
trot Rudolph out anyway, and then maybe you lose Rogers
for the Bills game and then the Ravens game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
See the more I really look at this game, the
more I think Chicago's plays.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Gonna kill him, kill them. I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They have the number two offense, the number four rushing attack.
The Steelers defense stinks outside of takeaways. That Steelers defense stinks.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Bears defense ain't that grady either outside of takeaways, which
they leave the league in and they don't kill teams.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, but then you have a breakdown to offense versus offense,
and the Bears is better. Oh, their Bears is better.
I think Steelers offense. Tom, I can't believe the Steelers
have won six games. I have no idea how the
freak that happened.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I think the Bears can definitely win the game, but
I'm not gonna go to kill the They just don't
kill anybody, and they haven't played anybody really like this
is probably the best team the Bears have played this year. Honestly,
do you think the Steelers are better than the Vikings
and the Cowboys? Those are the only two other contenders.
They beat the Vikings, Yeah, so that cross them off. Cowboys.
They'd probably lose to the Boys. That offense is sick
in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Then shut down pickets. They would contain him in CD.
Did you see that. I'm gonna talk about this more later.
Did you see Cede Lamb admitted that him and Pikets
got bench for that first series because they missed curfew
and were out drinking in Las Vegas. I heard they
were shooting craps with Eric Carlson.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I did see that story, and I saw that somebody
said that Ceedee Lamb was puking in a trash can,
like caught him like at six in the morning.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right, But he also said he could hold his legs.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
He refuted that part of it, not denying that they
were out and missing curfew, but just the part about
puking in a trash can, because that ain't me.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's not how ced Lamb. I could hold my liquor, Yeah, exactly.
So in other words, you can miss curfew and drink
and still playing the game as long as you're a
functioning alcoholic. Were good, but he described as a functioning alcoholic.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, we're good. It's all clear, then, Tom or the.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Steelers soft I've been asking that question all week. Who
was a physical force on that team besides you know
the usual suspects. Mount Washington on offense, and Ramsey and
Duggar on defense.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I mean you took all the answers that I was
thinking of right there, especially Ramsey. I mean, Ramsey really
sets the tone. Her Big isn't physical, right like Herbig
sets a tone in a dition.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Just Rastle physical when he's Availa when he's not hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe he's too physical, he hurts
himself too much. But yeah, Ramsey was the one that
jumped right out to me, and he got here this year.
Doug Er got here like three weeks ago and he
already jumped up to the top of the list. As
far as a physical player is concerned, you do need
some nastiness and they just don't have it. I got
it's a ton of nasty. I bet you he's a
little nasty.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Hard to tell what you know? Offensive lineman on the
network feedbah I.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Would say, so everybody I talked to he says he's
great and like he's coming along perfect hill.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Billy probably is too.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I think he's got a nasty The.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Center does assume the fetal position, but he's illiterate. That
would make me mad.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I think his best attribute is run blocking, too, which
is just all nastiness. So I think there's a little
bit there, but you're right, like there's just not that
hard edge on these guys.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Ramsey is proof that it helps to see a guy
play every game because Ramsey has much more phish physical
edge that I would have guessed having seen him play,
you know, only sporadically a game here and there.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, And that's why I think it's such an obvious
thing to move to safety, right because that would be
the biggest hang up a corner. Going to safety usually
doesn't work because corners don't want to tackle. Corners don't
want to get physical. Ramsey embraces that. I think he
could be in a great safety. I think I saw
Ben saying this podcast either this week or last week
he could be in all pro safety. I don't know
about that far, but his coverage is going to be
real good as far as the safety goes coming from corner,
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and that physicality is impressive.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
He could be a Pro Bowl safety playing the flag
football game when five others opt out, rip rip off
the flag.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And strangle Jamar Chase with it.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Speaking of Mount Washington, I mentioned a moment ago he's
listed at two sixty four. He admitted he's three to eleven,
and speaking as a fat guy who's lied about his
weight for a lot of his life, I feel like
he's still lying. He weighs more than me now thanks
to waken one eighty.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I bet you he's in like three twenty right, three
twenty three twenty five range.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Three point forty wouldn't shock me, because you could see
in that podcast when they asked him what his weight
was point blank, he was a little bashful already, like
he was like, I kind of don't want to say.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
He even said I haven't weighed myself in a while
on one of them.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Would he be embarrassed?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
His weight's a big weapon.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I don't know, but maybe he didn't want to reveal it.
Maybe he didn't want to reveal the true number like
it would give something away. But someone he was like,
I didn't get waided in a while, and the one
player was like, that's bs. You get weighed like every week,
so of course you know what your weight is, and
there's like, ah, three eleven, So I bet yeah he understood.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I used to lie about my weight for years, using
the same number all the time. I think it was
two seventy six. My friend Smitty who listens. He could
text me now and give me the exact number, but
I think it's two seventy six. And here's the funny part.
I got so used to lying and using that figure.
There were a couple of tubs. I used it when
I actually had lost weight and weighed less.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And did you also ever use it when you were
like at a doctor's office on accident, when you have
to actually tell it?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Way?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, way, stupid question. There was there any significance to
two seventy six, Like why you chose that?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I don't put it out of the sky.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I don't know why, but yeah, you got to get
wag at the doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, that was dumb. And the numbers don't why and
they spelled disaster for me at the cardiologist.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Now with with Washington, that way will catch up.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Tom. You can't be a tight end your whole career
at three eleven. Or maybe they do move him to
tackle at some point.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
When he starts to lose that step, maybe that's when
you make a transition, maybe, which is probably.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That good a blocker.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Now that the question is.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
He a good blocker period or a good blocker for
a tight end.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Is he a good I think he is a good
blocker period, But can he do it Mark for like
sixty to sixty five plays against a Miles Garrett, a
Max Crosby, You know what I mean? Like you're never
coming off the field as a left tackle, You're always
blocking these edge rushers. You need to have consistency there.
That's a huge question mark when it comes to him. Yeah,
he can do it for a rep, but this is
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the sixty reps by for him.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know what I'd do? Have another cheeseburger.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Nine it's the Mark. Jador Sanders, the Cleveland rookie quarterback
son of Neon, gets his first NFL start at Vegas Sunday.
I'm gonna be watching that. That's after the Steeler game.
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Don't forget. You can join me for the Steeler game.
A watch party at Marino's American Eatery in Greensburg. I
normally don't like craft beer places, but they got a
couple of pretty good ones, which is my way of
saying they have something that really approximate brand name light beer.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But it is good, So see it.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Marino's American Eatery for the Steeler game Sunday, Chador at Vegas.
I assume he won't miss Kurfey like Ceedee Lamb and
George Pickens, He'll just miss a bunch of his targets
when the game starts. Chador has had a week of
snaps with the first team, but I bet he still sucks.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's outlandish and silly.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
The Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland coach, a two time Coach of
the Year, and everybody around the league thinks he's a
great coach, and he's being judged because Wow, he uses
a fifth round pick with a famous name who just
ain't never gonna make it. That's not fair to Stefanski. Really,
the way that team's run, with the owner meddling and
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making every bad decision like drafting Shador and signing to
Shaun Watson to a contract, there's still not out from under.
I give Stefanski at credit for not just bolting. I
trade Tom went for Stefanski in a minute, in at
absolute minutes, and I still like that that Ceedee Lamb
and George Pickett's story Miss Curfew out drinking just got
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bench for series, which is no punishment at all. Lamb
admitted he was drinking but said he wasn't throwing up
in the garbage can like somebody said, because he can
hold his liquor. I just absolutely love football, Tom. If
you were in Vegas, would you miss curfew?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, no question. I've never been to Vegas, so if
that was my first trip to Vegas, I'd break curfew,
especially if I was someone like Ceedee Lamb. That's an
Aldo rain showed out situation. You're not really going to
get in too much trouble there.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I get chewed out. You're the best player on that team.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Now, if it had been Pickens by himself, does he
get pinched?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, Pickens is playing extremely well this year. If it's
the fifth string wide receiver, then yeah, he doesn't get
a hat.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You've never been to Vegas? Nope?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Atlantic City.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Been to Atlantic City more than a couple times.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I'd like it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I split my head open if you remember a few
months back at their friend's wedding there so not great
recent memories, but I always enjoy going to Atlantic City.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Tom. I hate to get personal, but you've been dating
your now wife, like we've talked about this week since
you were eleven. Yes, do you feel like you've missed
out on anything, No.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
What about drugs?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Who says I'm not allowed to do drugs because I've
known my wife since I was eleven twelve years old.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay with that mine, give me your perspective on the
Steeler game, because I'm picking Chicago.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
However, trupidaciously, I'm leaning towards the Steelers. I just don't
think the Bears are that good. I really don't. They
haven't really been anybody. I don't think the Steelers are
great either. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I agree they haven't beaten anybody. But their offensive numbers
are are good. They're close to overwhelming. They are second,
running fourth overall.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Against garage teams. And I'm not saying the Steelers are
some great team and the steel Curtain's going to roll
into Chicago and shut them down. I just have a
feeling that the Steelers are gonna win a mucky, kind
of crappy game. This is a big pressure spot for
the Bears, like this is the first game that they're
playing as the leading team in the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
They got a game against the Steelers that brand name.
You know, they're gonna add some legitimacy to the season.
By beating the Steelers. Whether you think the Steelers are
great or not, they just will so.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I just feel like the Steels are gonna pull out
like a twenty three to twenty win.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I think Kayleb Boyams might have a coming off party
against what's perceived to be a good defense. Well, this
is a defense that is terrible. You know, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I think he might rip them apart. I think the
Steelers defense is terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It's getting better in the run category, it's trending up.
It's now thirteenth in the league.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And again they can use their veteran guile to worry
him to turn over.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, here's the thing, though, Mark, they're so bad against
the pass. They're still the worst passing defense in football.
You can rip yardage against them, and maybe that's where
Kayler Williams has his best game of the year through
the air. He's not been very accurate. Maybe he gets
some accuracy against the Steelers. Maybe he has like a
nice three hundred yard game.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Have you noticed they used the word guyle a lot.
It's a lot. Aaron Rodgers has guyle. The Steelers defense
has guyle. That's a nice way of saying they don't
got much else. If the Steelers lose to drop the
six and five and Baltimore beats the Jets, which they will,
and it's a tie for first place with the game
at Baltimore looming on December seventh, a day that will
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live in infamy. Are the Steelers in trouble or back
to square one? Kind of? At the very least.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Now, I think they're in trouble if you allow the
Rags Sunday, if that scenario plays out, if you allow
the Ravens to catch you after being one in five
without having to even play.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Year three games ahead, and they caught you without any
head to.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Head, without any game, without them helping themselves at all,
So that would just be I think, an absolute disaster.
I want that one game cushion before the day that
lives in infamy.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, don't don't steal that.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You'll never make what's that line from meingirls, You'll never.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Make sech a thing I intend to make.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
A day that lives in infamy, will live in infamy
A thing tom that result last night. First off, I
don't think Buffalo is very good, except for Josh Allen.
Second off, that result, Like I said in my open,
that sucks both those teams into the wild card race,
and that ain't good for the Steelers. It would have
been better if Buffalo would have won to kind of
push Houston back and stayed, you know, somewhat with the
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chance to catch New England. But now that ain't gonna happen,
and Houston's right in it too. Yeah, and Jacksonville still
is too.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So now there's a third time who beat The steel
Charges are firmly in it. The Chiefs are still in
the mix right now. You can't rule them out. So
there's three teams in the way.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You will not make you boy, am I gonna be
like Notre Damus when the Chiefs don't make it? Because
I said that before the season started, confirm that you did.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And the Texans winning is huge as far as that goes,
because them getting the six and five is a big
deal in that regard. The Bills are gonna make the playoffs.
They're gonna be a wild our team. I still believe
that Josh Allen might win around pull an upset as
a wildcard beating one of the division winners.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Maybe it's the Steelers at Akrocher stadium.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
He can't play you know, Superman six touchdown football, four
straight games to win a super Bowl, right, No chance.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, no way. I mean they're not gonna make the playoffs.
It's the Bills. You don't think the Bills are gonna No,
I'm talking about the Bills. No.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I think the Bills will be a wildcard. I just
don't think they can make a super Bowl run. But
the way their team.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Is, I don't think so either. But it depends who
they play.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Well, that's what I was saying, Like they could be
the wildcard that comes an acrochur and he just goes
nuts Josh Allen and wins the wildcard game.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
He will it beat him twice an acrosser. He's gonna
beat him next week too. Yeah right, Okay, So like
that because the Steelers, I mean, they just can't.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Stop him, no chance, like he and especially after losing
this game, like he is just gonna feel so much
pressure to have to rack up as many wins as
he can before they go to New England on December fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
By the way, the Chiefs the same thing.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
If they did somehow make the playoffs, they're to run
the table either. Oh, I don't think so, and a
lot of people would predict they would. But I hear
people saying, you know well that you can never cut
out Mahomes. Well, I'm not cuting Mahomes. I'm kind of
not the rest of the team, and I don't think
he's quite at the level he had been, whether because
of all that playoff, extra game fatigue or not not
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quite at that level.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't think that they would be able to go
into Denver right now, as weird as this sounds, right,
it sounds like a bad take just because of the
track record of the Chiefs, But I just don't think
currently they'd go into Denver and win it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
If we pay too much attention to track track records.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, every game is a separate, distinctive currents and things change.
Denver's getting home, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Get older, teams get better, teams get worse teams add.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And subtract Denver getting home field advantage. I'd be awful
tempted to pick them to go to the super Bowl.
That's one of the tougher home field advantages you can
have to have to go through there in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
In a way, Tom, that's why I kind of pooh Pooh.
The notion that that Rogers is what twenty five and
four or twenty five and five against Chicago twenty four
and five, I think, yeah, because this isn't those Bears,
and Rodgers isn't in his prime with that Green Bay team.
Same thing with the Steelers. One and twelve at Chicago.
Those numbers, I mean, there's something to talk about. I
certainly have and will do, but they're really meaningless.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Plus that was in the context of him playing for
the Packers, So the the rest of the team is
also juiced to beat the Bears too, to beat their
art rival.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Rest of the Steelers don't really care about beating the Bears.
I mean, they could say, hey, we want to do
this for Rogers, but how far does that really go.
This isn't the Ravens, this isn't the Browns.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't think they're saying that we haven't ripped TJ.
Watt lately, but I'd like to now because he's invisible.
No sacks last week. Six on the year, guess where
he ranks in the league for sacks.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh, he's got to be like probably twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Time for sixteenth. That contract is already so evidently a mistake.
And who said that it was a mistake? Who was
that before it was signed? It was me Mark mad
NAT's who just like I said, Kansas City, I am
a regular Notre dameis. And by the way, what's that
reference from there's a movie where they mispronounced Nostra Damas
is Notre dameous And I keep mimicking that. I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'll never make fetch a thing either.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I just know the Chappelle Show take on Nostra Damis.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh my god, was that Paul Mooney. It was tremendous.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's seriously, I can't I there was so much like like,
I can't repeat almost any of it now, but it's
so good Paul Mooney. I'm glad Chappelle later in Mooney's
career because he since past gave him, gave him a
platform because Mooney is one of the funniest m efforts
that's ever walked the face of the earth.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
No question, that segment was great, and he did the
ask a black dude too. We can say that, you can't.
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
You know, you know what Negro Damas would have would
have predicted great things for Sudor Sanders, no question about
that him, Josina and uh Cam Newton.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So anyway, back.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
To what we talked about the Steelers lack of physicality
is what easy to play against. I mean, maybe that's
not the word I'm looking for, but like, if you're
a tackle, he's not gonna beat you up. He's gonna
try to run around you and you're gonna have your
hands full. He's not gonna he's not gonna hurt you
physically though.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's not like a Harrison game, you know what I mean,
where he just roughs you up, completely beats you up.
As you're saying, when I think of Watt's dominance, it's
always about speed. It's always about beating you with the speed,
having that kind of like quick sacks and almost like
a Cobra.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Strike with hit boom, it's over. Yeah, exactly. I just
got a texture my man Smithy, the number one, indeed
two seventy six, which I do not wait now, but
I'm getting there thanks to Awaken one eighty. Who should
pay me more money for droppins like that? Okay, up next,
some hockey talk, as we got the Penguins at home
against Minnesota tonight Billy G in the Hospit Billy Garreon,
the legend of Billy G.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
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Speaker 4 (21:47):
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Speaker 2 (22:02):
And is the season when you're in the mood for
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We got the Penguins hosting Minnesota tonight. Let's talk to
Tommy Radio.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Tom.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We got three games at home, three beatable opponents, starting
with Minnesota this evening. It seems like a big stretch
to not not get out in front, but at least
maintain what you're doing. Oh, no question.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I think five out of six points in this homestand
is that that's not getting too greedy?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Is it be good enough for me?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I think that's what the goal should be. There's stiffest
test this probably tonight too, because Minnesota is playing a
lot better. I won three straight. They're like seven two
and one in their last ten. I think so they're
they're back in the playoff conference. Yeah right, he's a force.
You crushed him in Minnesota earlier. This year though, four
to one and you've just been waiting at home, right,
you've been off for four or five days since coming
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back from Sweden.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, but sometimes that that don't help you, Like you
think it might the first.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Game, but then it can go to knock some Rust
off and then maybe Saturday against the Crack and that's
where you just like come out, shot out like a cannon.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You know, you can knock the Rust off very easily.
Thomas to scratch Brian Rust, but they can. He's top six.
An anonymous player told Yoe that the Penguins would have
been competitive last season if they'd gotten this year's goaltending. Now,
last year's goaltending was awful and Jari he was there
last year as well as this. But was the goaltending
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last year that bad? And is it that good now?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I'm not ready to say it's that good now. I'm
still kind of waiting for the other shoot to drop.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'd rank it a B minus now. I would rank
it no better than a D plus last year and
maybe a D. A lot of people thought Ned was good.
Ned sucks major upgrade with and Jari's.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Playing way better this year than last so far.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Is it wrong of me though, to just still wish
we could be rid of Jari and just roll forward
with Love and Mushoff as the tandem.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, if you think more Shof's better right now, well
if they think then yeah, but the plan wants for
him to stay in the A this year barring injury,
and I think they should follow that plan as long
as Jari and Shiloff's keep playing at the level they're at. Yeah,
you're right, but it's I mean, things.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Can change because of their place in.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
The standing true, and it's just so tempting with she
loves in Murshov clearly being the future there, she loves
under twenty four, Mershov's twenty one years old. Like that's
the net right there for the next five years.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
More Shof's better in shootouts than either.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You might think that's a small thing, but it's a
big deal when you're really in a tight playoff race,
which they absolutely will be. This will go down to
the end, and that's the best case scenario.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
For the Penguins.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
They have to get bold and do what you've been saying.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
They won't, but they have to get bold. They have
to be the team.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I'm gonna try to muse sometimes chats with you know,
individual members the media. After his post game, I'm gonna say, hey,
would you ever do this? I'd like to hear what
he thinks.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Try to present it like you'd look like a genius,
you know what I mean, like Aasamov, Like you'd be
the guy that would.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Be praised for them.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I think he already thinks he's a gene.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Well, then no one would ever think to do it,
no one would try to do it. You do it,
and you're successful at it. All of a sudden you're
this cutting head coach, and then maybe you're the one
that's the pioneer, and more teams will start to do it.
It's such an obvious situation to try it, though, because
she loves is so bad in the shootout, you have
to pull him. Whether it's Jarry, is the backup O Mirashov,
either ones a veteran.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I know what I would do. I would go to shilloffs. Listen,
we're practicing shootouts now. Maybe you'll get better the next
time you're in a shootout of it. If it don't improve,
then we got to start pulling you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
It has to be a bit of a mental thing. Too, right,
because remember he had that amazing save against Nashville. When
he started his game in the Global Series as a
breakaway from Predators had him dead to rights. He had
an incredible say, you.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Have a breakaways, you're different because you ain't got time
to think and the mental yesh shooter slows down in
the shootout. You can't be better a breakaway. I do too,
but it's a factor. You can't do it on a
breakaway now right. Another kind of Penguiny news item is
Malkin did an interview and I'm not sure it broke
new ground except he named team specifically, said he only
(25:57):
wants to play in Pittsburgh, doesn't want to go some
place like Colorado or Miami. We always thought Miami because
he's got a home there and that's where his wife
has always resided. And he said he wants to play
one or two more years. Now. Him making that public
is shrewd on his part, because he's putting the ball
in the Penguins court already and making them the bad
guys for all the genomaniacs out there in advance.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh and he's capitalizing on a lot of good genopr
and rightfully so, because Gino has played really well this year,
so it should be getting good pr But it is
a great time for him to advance this story. There's
a lot of buzz about him own Gino getting a
second win. I just think it would be a mistake,
and I know you do too, to sign h The thing.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Is, you can't block Kindle from being the number two center.
You can't just turn him into a third line center
unless Kindle isn't what they think he is. But I
know what they think he is currently and it's not
a bottom six.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And no signs are pointing to that. And again it's
still a long season ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
But I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
People don't get that you can't hinder Kendall's progress to
serve nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I think it'd be the best thing in the world
to keep Geno.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, and I've seen people say this to you on
Twitter too, and this has come up that another thing
they don't get. Well, well, if Kendall can't beat malcol
out for second line center, well then he doesn't deserve
it. It got nothing to do with deserve.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Kendall's a better two hundred foot player than Malkin right now,
right this second I mean that's not to say he
could beat him out for number two center right now,
because Malkin has twenty three points in nineteen games. And
speaking to which, if Malclin keeps that kind of production up,
it is a tough decision. But you're not paying him
for what he's doing, you know, in the first nineteen
games this year, and obviously they're not going to talk
to him about it even till after the year's over.
(27:35):
But even let's say he averages a point of game
this year, can he do it again next year at
age forty? That's a big assumption in this situation.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I mean, Kyle Dubis has got to make a tough decision,
you know what I mean when it comes to these
three guys, the Big three, you can't just always keep
kicking the can down.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
The road for I think two more years.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
This is the one that comes up, Gino, So this
is your first tough decision that you have to make.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
What I say to Sid.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
If Sid tries to, you know, influenced Gino here, I'd say, Okay,
he's on your wing all eighty two games. You still
want them? Nope? He would say, no, he does not
want them. I don't know what it's said, like to
be there when the conversation was happening.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It wouldn't be a flat out now, but it'd probably
be like we'll have to see you know what I mean,
like well.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You know is saying in in you know, putting stuff
out there like he is because he knows they'll have
sid support. Now.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Gino fading this year like this momentum could carry into
the offseason, which makes the decision even harder because he's
gonna get what almost a month off in February because
of the Olympic break. It is set up for him
to have a burst down the stretch, have a nice
march in April to finish the season, and then hopefully
the way the Penguins are right now, it.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Makes the decision all the tougher. And if they win
a series, my god.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
He'd probably be back right for better or for worse,
he'd probably bring him back.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
At that point. On my prediction, he's back no matter
no matter what, miss the playoffs, even he could lose
a leg. Tom One one other thing that's of discussion
with the Penguins. It looks like is gonna go to
Wilkes for conditioning. That's what I hear because he couldn't
go there otherwise, but he's been scratched I think six games. Now,
(29:08):
once you scratch for five, you can go to the
AH for conditioning assignment, not get returned to juniors, as
that agreement with Major Junior mandates. And then I hear
he's gonna go play for Canada in the World Juniors.
But World Juniors is over a month away. How long
can Brunick not play?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
How long are you allowed to be on the conditioning
assignment in Wilks It's like two weeks or something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's two weeks. I'm not one thousand percent sure.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
So that's two weeks.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
It eats into the month a little bit there that
you have to wait until the World Juniors. They clearly
just don't think that Juniors will do anything for his
development right to send him back to that league like
they must think that that will do That will do
no good.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
He'll just stay in neutral again, Tom, I don't think
they know what to do right now. I think they
trust his talent impeccably so, but they just don't like
what they see on the ice. And that's it's tough
to kind of bridge that when you make the decision.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
And then you look at Kendall too, who is just
you know, soaring past every expectation that you could ever have.
And I'm not saying that they look at Kendle and
then they say, Ah, Brunick, why can't you be like Kendall?
But I get where they're coming from, where it's a
little bit of a disappointment here where he's not as
far along as they had hoped. There was a little
bit of talk last year right coming out of training camp,
like do you try to bring brunic up for ten
games last year before you send him back down to juniors.
(30:22):
So it is upsetting to see him not take to
the NHL as smoothly as we'd hope. But I think
I think, I think two weeks in the is gonna
be good.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's tough for a defenseman because he the toughest position
of adjustment from from junior's AHL whatever to the NHL, and.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
He played in the A last year during the playoff
run for Wilkes. So I think it'll do him some
good a couple of weeks down there, and then when
you bring him back up, I'd throw him in there
for a game, right Mark, you got to try him
before you decide to make your final decision.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well, or maybe he goes to the AHL and he
plays a few games before World Juniors. And again, this
is just what I've heard. I don't know for sure
they're doing that, but but it's what I've been told
by somebody who probably knows, and it seems logical to me.
It says right here, Tom, the standard NHL conditioning assignment
could last up to fourteen consecutive days. Up next, we
(31:11):
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(31:33):
now it's time for the Trifecta, brought to us by
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nineteen sixty. That Standy's on Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. Tom,
what have we got for today's trifectum?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
For today's Triffecta, I've got three Bears stats that I
think are pretty relevant when it comes to the game
on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Three Bears like the like the children.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So this is the football team, Okay, this is about
the team in Chicago. Number three, the Bears lead the
NFL and interceptions. We all know that with fifteen, but
when you look at it from an individual state point,
it's even more impressive. Kevin Byern has the most in
the league at five. Then Tremaine Edmonds and Nashan Wright
have four each, so they literally have the top three
interception getters in the NFL this season. So you got
(32:12):
to protect the football. Number two. Rogers is good at
and I think Rudolph is actually pretty decent at as well,
not horrible, or at least put it this way, if
Rudolph does throw a pick, it won't snowball, you know
what I mean, Like he won't be like, oh, I'm
gonna just keep throwing pick after pick after pick. Number
two the Bears run the ball at Soldier Field in
the games in Chicago forty nine percent of the time,
(32:33):
and they are the second best rushing offense in football.
We've talked about that already, So you're going to have
to stop the run. They commit to it more than
any team when they're at home. But the number one
stat that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
By the way, that stat their commitment to the running
game and their success at it tells me that the
Steelers get down by a couple scores, it's game, it's over.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
They'll just punch the lights out, yep. Number one, Caleb
Williams scrambles on twenty two point three percent of his dropbacks.
That's only behind Jade and Daniels, and Daniels has been
hurt for a couple of weeks. So this is the
quarterback that scrambles the most in the NFL. Not talking
design runs here, I'm talking about his read's not there,
he takes off and those it's.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
A metric indicate whether or not he scrambles the best.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well, he has had four straight games of at least
twenty five rushing yards off of scrambles. Twenty five plus
rushing yards off scrambles. Yes, not cold plays, not called
plays like they will call RPOs too. So don't get
me wrong, there will be some design stuff with Williams,
but he's so good at escaping pressure and getting you know,
five six seven yards out of a bus to play,
(33:30):
the Steelers have got to be able to grab him
in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
That's the trifecta brought to us by Danny's Peach and
Hogies on Route eighty eight. Tom I did a call
him for the trip, calling out Jeff Passon for all
the Horsebineur. He talked about the pirates like being in
for Schwarber, and of course we discussed that all week
on this program. But I learned now the Trek Scooble,
(33:53):
the cy On Award winner in the America League for Detroit,
that he may well be traded this offseas. And even
though he's won two straight cy Young Awards, and even
though Detroit had a great season and got in the playoffs,
he's entering his third year of arbitration, and they figured
that na's the time to trade him while he has
maximum value. And I was surprised to learn, especially with
(34:15):
Skeens having his first year of arbitration next year in
twenty twenty seven. I should say after this coming season.
The Scooba only got paid ten point one five million
dollars this year and he agreed to that prior to arbitration.
That strikes me as a really low figure. And wonder
if maybe I'm talking out my backside when I say
Skiens is going to get you know, thirty or forty
(34:36):
million in arbitration.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I was surprised to hear that too, when you told
me that at the break. And then I looked up
what the estimate is for this year's arbitration on Scoobal
and it's only like seventeen point eight eighteen million dollars?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Would that be?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
It makes no sense to me, And I wonder tell you, let's.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Say Skeens only gets twenty million arbitration and they don't
pay that. Oh my god, my god, that that I mean,
like maybe you can't keep him for at least one
year of arbitration.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
My only theory is so the contracts that we were
looking at in the past was like the Soda remember,
like Wan Soda got like thirty million or something like that.
Something crazy and arbitration. I wonder if the arbitration board
in a weird way when you look at it, just
a singular year thing, which is what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Value.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
You're on the field every game as a hitter more
than a pitcher who's only pitching every fifth game, and
that's why the value is so low. I don't know,
I really don't get it. I'm trying to find a reason.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I mean, I yeah, I don't agree with that reason.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I just think pitching is the biggest part of the
It is then again, Redo somewhat by pictures being pulled
early in their star trade too, like Scooble was in
the final game of the Alds. That still makes no
sense to me. It makes no sense, especially if you
were thinking then that you might rad him. Yeah, I
don't let him. Bitch toly died that arm fell off.
Then I told them to throw right handed.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
If the Tigers do trade Scooble, if you're a Tiger fan,
that's gonna suck, Don't get me wrong. But at least
they've given you something in your lifetime, right, I mean,
at least they've done stuff with it.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
They spent and built, yes and God to a peak.
And now if they trade Scooble and wind up kind
of burning it down. I understand that too.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And they've had peaks like if Tom was a Detroit
Tiger fan growing up, you'd have Miguel Cabrera forever justin
Verland or Don. Yeah, I'm saying like if you were me,
and yes I am, as a Detroit Tiger fan, though,
like there is moments here where it's actually exciting baseball.
So yeah, it sucks. We're trading skirts.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Never build to a.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Peak, never, so at least you'd say, hey, we're trading Schooble.
At least my team has the track record of building
to a peak.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
And you know, it looked like that might be the
philosophy when they you know, made the playoffs in thirteen,
fourteen and fifteen and then did burn it down, but
they never built it back up. And like I've said
many times, and it's obviously correct, that's it. Nothing spent
more in that period, didn't win enough, His profits weren't
what they were had he not spent at all, and
he learned from that.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
However, perversely, that's it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It spooked him.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
It's no coincidence that you haven't seen a multi year
contract given to a free agent since ivon Nova was
at twenty eighteen. He got spooks from what happened to
him in that stretch where he actually decided to try
to win and it wasn't working as far as a
profit was concerned.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
But Tom, I've seen the future. It's trading Mitch Keller
for Tarrek Scouble. One oh, five, nine,
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