October 30, 2025 • 39 mins
Mark and Tommy Radio talk about the Steelers needing their high priced talent to start playing like high priced talent. They talk Penguins too and devil's night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Plant at the Capitol Theater in Wheeling tonight. They only
made one. He'll probably not do rock and roll. If
he does, he'll slow it down. It's gonna be very acoustic,
even it'll be great. Plant's been in Wheeling like the
last few days because it's the opening night of the tour,
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you know, doing sound checks, getting the equipment iron on
and everything. And people who have met him say he's
being kind of a dink, but that's no surprise.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Robert Plant's kind of a dink, but he's Robert Plants.
Uh Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
One thing I'll say about Kyle Dugger, the Steelers new
safety is.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
He can lay the wood.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Dougger's good hit, that's assuming he gets out there. But
with the Shawn Elliott, I'm not sure there's another choice,
a better choice. And maybe if Dugar lays the wood,
it wakes the Steelers up a little bit. But Elliott
he hits too, and that ain't really helped. You know,
what should happen? What needs to happen when the Colts
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visit across on Sunday? How about what gets three sacks
and Cam gets two sacks? A Ramsey gets a pick
and DK catches two touchdowns, and all the guys who
got the bag do something besides just having got the bag.
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Go earn your paycheck instead of grimacing and getting the
booboo face after the game when you lost, you got
the bag, you got the money.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You cast a check. Now pay your bills, what.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Cam Ramsey, DK metcalf pay your bills? And now about
coach Steve comes up with some twist that gives us
Steelers some kind of edge.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The approach, everything about the Steelers gonna be samey, same,
same old plan, no adjustments. Everybody plays like they always do,
and the Steelers lose for a third straight time. The
Steelers have no plan besides showing up and being the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It ain't working. Yo, Coach t that ain't working.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Let's bring on Tommy Radio, Tom Yo am I right,
the big paycheck guy's gonna earn them hold themselves responsible.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, absolutely, especially in a game like this where the
team's facing a three game losing streak. You're playing arguably
the best team in the NFL. Statistically speaking, you are
playing the best offense in the NFL. Yeah, DK needs
to put up a big game. A couple touchdowns one
hundred and twenty five yards receiving. Watt needs to have sacks.
Cam Hayward needs to tip some balls in the air
that get picked off by Jaylen Ramsey in that slot position.
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Of course, you're right, they need to step up. They've
been too invisible over these two games.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That the Steelers have lost.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Who's the most likely of the four I mentioned, who's
most likely to come up big against Indy, Cam Watt,
Ramsey or Metcalf?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Metcalf because I think the best way to beat Indianapolis
is to just get in a track meet with him and.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, like of course he said, play basketball. That's a
good way to put it. Be prepared to win thirty five,
thirty one or whatever. Every possession needs to end in
the end zone. That's the goal.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And their best bet to do that is Rogers throwing
the ball like fifteen times the DK Metcalf, I think.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, I agree, d CAFF's probably the best bet because,
like you said, he's connected to Rogers, who's been good
all year.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Who didn't get the bag and has been delivering, right right, who.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Took less yes of a bag and has been delivering.
Then again, he's not hurting for money. Uh he even
turned down the million per year from McAfee, so he
doesn't say dumb crap.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So kudos to to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And yeah, since since Rogers can elevate metcalf, maybe that's
the most like. But half I think that defense is
dead d e a D as in deceased because as
a season grows older, the old dudes, they don't rally,
they don't get fresher, they just get older. And you
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look at those guys when they talk after loss, it
seems like they run up a white flag instead of
a terrible tale.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And when you look at their defense specifically, like game
to game, mark they're averaging giving up eleven points in
the fourth quarter. You know why because they're old and
they're out there for a long time, and then the
fourth quarter rolls around and they're fading when the game
goes on. And you take that and you blow that
up into the context of an entire season. I mean,
we're already starting to see them show the signs of
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their age at the halfway point of the year. What
is this going to look like in week fourteen? What's
this going to look like after Thanksgiving? When you get
into the stretch run.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And by the way, I excluded Rogers from the guys
who have to deliver the old guys with the bag
because like you said, he didn't get that big of
a bag, and he has mostly delivered, and he is
my f steeler. I feel like Cam is just too
old to probably want to and what the way he plays,
which requires that big burst, that burst is gone. He
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won't adjust, not even where he lines up. And Cam, Yo,
if I'm not mistaken, I look at the depth charts.
He's matched up against Quenton Nelson, who is just a
bear of a guard for the Colts. Quent Nelson gonna wear.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Out Cam's old ass, you know, I think that might
be the case now, previous couple of meetings, Cam Hayward's
actually gotten the better of Quenton Nelson.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He's been great.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
But Cam Hayward's been getting the better of a lot
of guards for a long time in this league. And
you have to wonder Mark if now is officially timed
to say he's lost a step and he's, you know,
starting to show the signs of the age and he's
starting to fade a bit, And I don't think that's unfair.
I mean, he's honestly a marvel that he lasted as
long as he did at the level that he did,
so it's expected that he should be slowing down a bit.
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And furthermore, no one.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Said that that's why he held in for more money
as he knows that he didn't get none the oky
dunk bonuses that he won't reach. But he sees the
end coming, even though he had an all pro campaign
last year.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You just know you're the guy living inside your body.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
That was his last gasp. I think he probably knew that. Furthermore,
no one's really stepping up around him. I mean, Derek
Harmon had a nice little drolt when he came in,
but he's kind of in so quiet these past couple
of games. And Kanye Benton, I mean, Kanye Ben is
just not a good player. He's just an okay guy.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I want to refer back.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You said the Steelers are averaging eleven points allowed in
the fourth quarter. I think it's more than that because
according to Matt Williamson, forty percent of the Steelers points
a lot of coming the fourth quarter. If that doesn't
indicate the elderly collapsing as the game grows older, and so.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Do they I don't know, what does I think you're
I think it is slightly more.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I think it's the real number is closer to twelve,
Like it's like eleven point seven or something like that.
But I didn't want to get too decimally and get.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Nerdy on that air. At any rate, that's a lot
of points.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's a ton of points, Mark, I mean, it's by
far the worst in the league. And I really think
it's a sign of age. It's just you're out, it's
the fourth quarter and you're old.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And the thing is with guys like Cam and Watt,
they will make just enough plays against bad teams to
prop up their myth and then their stooges. They're fans people.
To me, He'll say, well, see they're not done, but
they're done, like the Browns.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The Browns game is a perfect example of that, right,
Like didn't the Browns game was the Steelers defensive myth
this year. They had six sacks, they were wreaking havoc
all over the place, Dylan Gabriel couldn't get a pass off.
They stopped the run decently. Well, like that was a
game that you're talking about that they'll point to and say, oh,
they wrecked that game. What are you talking about? Steers
defense still has that capability. Yeah, he played Browns. You
do what has to be pissing off?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
What that Parsons and Garrett are clearly doing better.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Than him and Aiden Hutchinson just got the bag himself
for Detroit. But he deserves to get that bag because
he's ascending as far as his career is concerned. And
those are the three now mark like Parsons and Garrett
are still in that class, that elite trio that Watt
was a part of, but now you have to say
that Hutchinson is that third and Watt has fallen a
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tier beneath.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Now, speaking of miss why doesn't tom Win's massive ego
motivate him to try some grand stand nutty strategy like
follow Ben's advice about Ramsey covers the tight end, which
you know with Tyler Warren on Indy, to me, that's
worth a try to try to mark him out of
the game and diminish their weaponry. Why will tom Win
just come out and play it the same and he
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will deny he plays it the same?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It reminds me of Mike Sullivan used to complain to
like the Pengwins pr staff about my criticism. Well, we're
doing stuff that he doesn't see. Okay, I been watching
hockeys that I was sick. You're not doing stuff I
don't see. But that's kind of the stance that Tom
Win takes and all his coaches take all the time,
that we know more than you do.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, you're just too dumb to understand what you're watching
out here, So why don't you just leave it to
the professionals. We are changing things, but they're not. They
do the same thing. They're very vanilla. One of the
more vanilla defenses in the league. And I don't know
why he won't adjust, because you know, that's the sign
of a good coach with a strong ego too, to
be like, I'm so good at defensive scheming.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I got something in my bag for the calls.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'll give you an example. Jim Rothinford Pengwins GM made mistakes.
Should always correct his mistakes. Like a lot of coaches GMS,
when they make mistakes, they won't correct them because that is.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
To acknowledge them.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, but I think it's a sign of a good
organization when you act, when you grow your mistakes and
you correct them and you actively try to What.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Would you do, Tom, you know so friggin' much. What
would your strategy be for the game Sunday. I'd put
Ramsey on the tight end, just like big Ben said, Mark,
you know what, I would put Ramsey on the tight end.
You know, play the slut, just like big Ben said,
here's something, here's the here's the nutbar off the grid stuff.
I would do, okay, because it's worth a try, because
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you you fit to get killed by these sum bitches,
because they can score.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I would come out with.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Three wide outs, spread the field and cross them up early.
I'd grow it deep a few times early, maybe go
no huddle and let Rogers call plays go against your
own grain.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And you need to start making that your grain.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Like that's the way you should beat the Colts, and
then that's the way you should try to beat the Chargers,
and then the Bengals the next week, and then the
Bears the following week. Like you need to be an
offensive team. Now you need to embrace that. You saw
what it looked like.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I just embraced up, but finally understand what the league is.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, I mean you did it when you had the
killer when they had the number one offense in football,
it was very comfortable for Mike Tomlin to be an
offensive mind to coach. You remember, they would go for
two all the time after scoring the opening touchdown. They
were aggressive on thirty still settle for field goals a lot,
did they?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I don't know they did.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Maybe a little more always have. That's just in his DNA.
But you gotta buck that right now. You have to
be more offensive mind.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Oh no, I do all that crap. I would blitz
more on defense. I'd play more press coverage on defense.
It might not work, but it would show an understanding
of what you're up against and again what the league is.
And like the course he said, you gotta win like
thirty five thirty one.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Blitz more on defense, but also blitz smarter. I mean
I saw.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I think it was Warren Sharp exposed like Jordan Love
eats the Blitz alive, and the Steelers blitz the most
they ever have against him.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
On Sunday night, he tore apart through.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
For like one hundred and eighty yards and all three
of his touchdowns against the Blitz.
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Speaker 2 (12:16):
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Speaker 1 (12:18):
The news for tonight's game at Minnesota puck drops at
eight pm. Tristan Jarry is in goal, so the rotation
continues and Ben Kendall is in the lineup. That'll be
his tenth game, so his NHL contract kicks in for
the first year and that seems to indicate he'll be
staying all season. No word on whether Harrison Bruneck will
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be in the lineup or not. Tom, what is your
biggest surprise so far with the Penguins?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And it is really impressive to see someone like Kendall
be able to not only get a nice nine game
tryout period, but almost earn his way onto the roster.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Because I don't know almost, he definitely earned. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I don't think that they had this intention when they
started the season. I think that this was just to
get your feet wet experience with their first round pick.
You know, welcome to Pittsburgh and then you're gonna go
back to juniors. But he's just too undeniably good to
stay up here. The goaltending has been a really pleasant
surprise as well. Shootouts be damned. I mean, they are
definitely keeping this team in games and stealing them points.
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And I thought Carlson he said that post game after
the Flyers, I thought that was a good point. Like
all year long, they've been doing a good job of
being able to steal some points for us.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, well tonight it's a winnable game. The wild off
to a slow start at three five and three. That's
three wins and eight losses. People always forget that the
overtime loss in the shootout loss is a loss because
it doesn't go under the l in the standings, but
it is indeed a defeat.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
They got kapras off. He's overrated.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Like I said, a very winnable game for the Penguins,
and you gotta win the games you can win.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
If you're a borderline playoff team.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Just don't let it go to a shootout because the
Penguins are no good at those, especially between the sticks,
whether it's Jari or shilloffs. If I had to listen,
the biggest surprise about the Penguins so far, it would
be the big dudes on Gino's line. Brazo with six goals,
Manta with five goals. That's incredible. From two ham and agers.
I would say Shay and Watherspoon aren't legitimate top four defensemen,
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but in those roles they're not killing the Penguins. Carlson
isn't the worst except what he is, but he's playing
the best he's played as a Penguin, fundamentally with some
egregious errors, admittedly stirred in because he's Carlson. I love
all the kids. How about are they right now? Are
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they all gonna stay? What's their ceiling? I don't know,
but I do see the potential. I see the future
and I feel the energy.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Tom. What about the goaltending?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
The goaltending has been slightly above average, but they are
making some saves at opportune times. There's a lot of
luck in with that. There's a lot of getting hit
involved with that. Can the above average goaltend to continue?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think it can continue because I think that the Penguins,
if they in front of the goaltending, play in the
structure that Dan Muse is implemented, and they're disciplined in that,
they create a lot of savable shots, Like it's a
lot of easy shots for goaltenders to turn aside, and
it's it's really on you, right, Like, if you're just
an average NHL goalie, you should be able to make
this save nine times out of ten. So go make
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this save nine times out of ten, and so far
Jari and Seelofs have done that. So as long as
I keep seeing that from the Penguins in front of
the goaltending, I don't see a reason why they should,
you know, all of a sudden blow up, either one
of them.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, but they could both of them, one of them
all of a sudden blow up.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Jarry has a track record of leaking in those goals
that you should save nine times out.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'm talking like twenty goals in three games. But you're
right at this point, I do trust shilloffs more than
I do Jari. I'm obviously not surprised by Sid's performance
and production. I am a bit surprised by Geno. I
did not expect Gino to be just off the scoring lead.
But again, getting back to Brazo and Mantha, you know
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he's he's gotten new life from them in a new style.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Slightly.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I think the way he plays from them too, because
the formula with them to is simple. They drive to
the net and create space for Malkin. They do dirty
work down low when the puck's there, and they play simple,
So Gino has to play simple, simpler or anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Gino, it's really just off the legs stay under him
for an entire season. And I thought he actually played
pretty well for a back to back night against Philadelphia.
I mean, the whole team kind of took off the
first two periods, but in the third period, I thought
Gino was okay. You know, he wasn't like noticeably sluggish
out there. But I feel like I'm just gonna keep
saying I'm waiting for that shoe to drop, for him to,
you know, start to put some sluggish performances together, and
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then people start to say, oh, you're hating on him,
you hate Gina.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But maybe maybe this is his Ovechkin season. I think
last year, you know, I mean, Alex has slowed down.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
No, he's starting.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
To he's starting to put some goals in that, but
I'd be surprised if he gets many more than thirty,
you know, after I think his motivation's gone because he
knows they can't win a Cup and he's already caught
Gretzky and it's too long to stick around to get
to a thousand. But maybe Gino just has that Indian
summer of a season like ob did last year, that
one last great run, and it would be It would
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be great to see, and it's been fun to watch
so far.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It would be great to see. But it cannot and
I'm gonna sound like a hater again too, but you're
gonna agree with me. It cannot lead to another contract.
It cannot lead to him coming back to Kindle No
at third line center. Now, Kendall is your second line
center of the future. It's time for him to start
playing that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Then again, I mean, I'm gonna play Devil's African here
because I would not bring Geno back almost under any circumstances.
But what if Kendall is perk near but not plumb
to be the number two center last year next year?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I get what you mean with the what if.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I find it hard to believe that that's gonna be
the case, though, Like I don't think we're gonna arrive
at that point at the end of the season. Based
on what we've seen for Kendall so far. I think
we're gonna see, Wow, this dude needs to be the
second line center.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, but you can't force feed that either. No, I
think it is going to come to kindle playing this
year with Coyvedon and McGroarty when McGarty's healthy head line,
and then if that's a third line, I'm okay with
that being the third line, as long as you don't
make him do Chip and Chase.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But I news won't do that.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, I don't think he will either. He's such a
good developmental coach. He gets it, he gets what that
third line is. The idea of that kid line.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Would be yeah, yeah, that's absolutely correct. Now you got
Minnesota tonight. I mean they got some good players. Although
Caprosov is overpaid and overrated, that doesn't mean.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
He's not real good.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I always say everybody thinks when you call somebody overrated,
you're thinking they suck. Okay, Kaprasov's real good. I just
wanted to have given him a jillion friggin dollars or
whatever the frig I mean, they had to do it
because they had to keep their star.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But it's too much money.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I mean, he can't even score as many goals as
a thirty eight year old Mark. I mean Crosby's got
two more than him. I mean how much is he
really worth it?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, no, but for them he is. But Minnesota Knight's winnable.
At Winnipeg on sad, that's a tough one. At Toronto Monday,
a tough one. Then Wash comes here, you need to
win that. At New Jersey, I mean, they're good, but
if you're for real, you go there and beat them.
So my point is it does get tougher. New Jersey's
eight and two tie with depends on points. I gotta
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tell you though, just as I'm trepidationous about the Penguins
really being for real, Tom, I don't buy in with
New Jersey, Jake Allen and Gole and and you know
who's who's like a guy who's mostly been a backup recently,
and then Andre the giant, that mark Strom guy who's
not a good goal that he's just big. So so again,
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the longer they stay in it, the longer they're going
to stay in it, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
No, absolutely, you look around and it's the entire metro.
You're like, there's just no one that's really impressive. Honestly,
the most impressive team to the start of the season
has been the Pittsburgh Penguins when it comes to the
metropolit kind of got that Capital's vibe from last year,
at least at the start of the season, where it's
like no one saw them coming. But now they're towards
the top. They have the most points in the league.
They're tired for the most points in the league with
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like four or five other teams right now. It's honestly remarkable.
I'm with you on New Jersey, like they don't overwhelm
you that you don't think that they're gonna run away with.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Here's the problem, Tom, that Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I mean, Florida's crippled, Tampa and Toronto aren't really great
just now. Carolina started fantastic and lost two in a row.
To me, the conference is wide open, yes right now,
and Toronto should win the conference, but they won't. Carolina
should win the conference, but they won't.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Not yet. For Montreal, I can't decide.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I think I said Tampa before the season, but they
look really old and are not off the good start
right right now, based on what we've seen, who's your
Eastern Conference winner?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I think it's really hard to pick one.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, I'm honestly drawing a blank right now. I don't
want to say Carolina because I just it's hard for
me to see them in that style to get through.
But maybe this is just their year because there's just
there's just no one else to get in their way.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Montreal, I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You can't buy into them yet, right they're hot cross
right of course, then they'll push them over the finish line.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Detroit, No, I've been kindle also a Montreal fan.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I guess I would probably still have to say Toronto
just because it's early in the season. They'll probably get
their heads on straight. But there's just no one that
overwhelms you. Like I said, the Penguins are the story
of the Eastern to be tremendous.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
If Toronto and Carolina played an Eastern Conference final and
one of them had to win, I think that's the
only way that one of them will win, is they
if they play somebody else who's in the same boat
as them that you just don't trust.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And you know that's going to game seven, and it's
going to overtime. In Game seven to put that pressure
on both those franchises, it.
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Speaker 1 (22:50):
That's Robert Plant with Zepplin there he does do that
song tonight Ramble on going to see him at the
Capitol Theater in Wheeling this evening. Maybe that should be
the big topic today. Should Robert Plant feel obligated to
play a lot of led Zeppelin song now at his
solo shows at age seventy seven, Because I'd say no,
(23:11):
it'd be nice, But he's not a jukebox.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And he does not feel obligated.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I can tell you that for sure he's doing
Gallows Pull Rain song, four Sticks, Ramble On at least
that's what's being considered. A few songs, the slower stuff.
Hey's seventy seven. He can't, you know, reach them high
notes like at the end of the whole lot of eleven.
And that's fine. Hey, I'll be honest, I go because
(23:38):
I feel obligated.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
He's freaking Robert Plants. Tom. Do you have an idea
who Robert Plant is? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I like led Zeppelin, Mark and I like led Zeppelin
before you know, I took over doing the show with you.
But come on, it's an all time band. I know
who Robert playing Jimmy page Art, Does he still do
Fool in the Rain?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No, I love that song, really, that is I like
that song a lot. You don't like that song, Why.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Well, that's off their least there. I don't want to
say worse because it's not bad. But if I ranked
their albums from I think they did nine from one
through nine, that would be ninth.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
And it sounds like it's almost like you got like
Moroccas and like you got like you know, South American
vibe going on in the middle of that song.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I can live without the South American vibe.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Although I think the best country song ever written was
a hot Dog from that album.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In Through the Octoor, they did a country song. It
was tremendous. I should listen to that.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And my baby's going I don't know what to do.
She took my love and walked right out the door.
Did I ever find that girl? I know one thing
for sure, I'm gonna give her love and like she's
never had before.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
She took my love at seventeen. A little dight. These days, it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Seems so those are on the same albums together, that
song and Cool and the Rains.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
They're doing some experimenting on that album. Huh, Well, to
be blunt.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's because Jimmy Page and John Bonham were smacked out
in John Paul Jones and Plant kind of took it
over and they did the experimenting.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Okay, sounds good. Uh, who's your favorite musical act?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Like, as far as a rock band is concerned, if.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You could pick one musical act to go and see,
who would you pick?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I'm like the worst person to ask that because they
just don't go to concerts, Like that's just not my
cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Let's say you could go to see one, see one,
great seats, easy in and out.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And it has it has to be like Current and
they're still touring. Because my life could be anybody. It
could be somebod who's dead. Historically it would be Queen.
I'd love to see Freddie Mercury perform. They're one of
my favorite bands. And I never saw Queen with Freddy.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Definitely a top three band for me, and I saw
Queen with Paul Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Queen several times with Adam Lambert recently, but it's not
the same. And that's all due respect great because Rogers
is an all time great singer, you know, Bad Company,
Free the Firm and all that, and Adam Lambert is
just the perfect fit for them, but he's not Freddy, So.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I mean, I love the band and the music, and
then just seeing him as a front man would be
all time.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So I gotta go with queen, Uh, you're our college
football expert, because I don't care.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
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Speaker 2 (25:54):
Breaking news.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Matt Woohle, the presumed successor to James Franklin at Penn State,
has signed a contract extension with Nebraska. Why they want
to extend him after the you know, mediocre run he's
had there, I do not know. Probably probably to keep
him from Penn State, I guess, I mean with him,
maybe it's better the devil that they know in Nebraska
and Indiana upcree up Signetti long term for just huge
(26:18):
money to keep him from from having a wandering eye.
So uh see, I don't see this as bad for
Penn State. I think Matt rules the AD's friend up there,
not much else and not much of a friend if
he's going to stay at Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But where does this take the job search?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, first of all, do you think Nebraska maybe just
knows who Nebraska is now that they should just be
comfortable with him.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Like Penn State doesn't know who Penn State is. Nebraska
knows that they're not the top dog in the Big Ten. Anymore.
Matt Rule.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Getting him to eight nine wins a year is probably
just what they should expect now moving forward, maybe win
a big game now and then with Penn State, do
you pivot to Brian Kelly who just got fired by LSU.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's the same coach that's out there, right?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Is that the guy a lot of than Franklin, who
I think is probably the top of the list to Virginia, right,
he should.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Acc Franklin versus Nardozzi. He'd be at the top of
that car great in a couple of years. I think
so too. He really would be.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I think Penn State made an egregious air firing him
after part of one bad season.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He just already dominates the DMV area as far as
recruiting his concerns. He just transitioned that to Virginia Tech.
You're still recruiting that same hotbed.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And that's why it would be a great hire for Virginia. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, he'd be the top of that. It's an easy
conference too, Like he can't win big games. What's your
big game? Miami?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
And Miami's always never like a huge game.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
If he went to the ACC and just couldn't win
those big games, either if he just kept losing a
lower level of big game.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Miami, Florida State, and Clemson that became the new Big
three that he couldn't overcome.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I think Franklin will go there.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Kelly and Penn State just seemed like such a great fit, though,
I mean, Kelly's just such an a hole.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Penn State I hate them. I mean they just seemed
like a match made in heaven.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Do you think Penn State now, after restabilizing the program
after the Sandusky scandal through Bill O'Brien and the invaluable
work he did in his two years there, and then
Franklin's you know, pretty lengthy run, do you think now
they're gonna be just another college program that coach in,
coach out, coach in coach out, that changes relatively frequently.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's the risk that they're running right now. I mean
there's a chance that they hire somebody in the prod.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Of the nil Anyway, do you think coaches have a
shorter shelf life in this era?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
It just has changed the way you look at certain
schools too, Like would you have ever thought that a
coach from Notre Dame would leave ever in your lifetime?
And then Brian Kelly did that just four years ago
and went to LSU. Now he's already fired from LSU.
So it has changed the landscape as far as that's concerned.
Like Penn State can't be viewed as the finishing stage,
you know what I mean? Like you could get a
coach that is a great hire after Franklin has a
(28:37):
ton of success there. But who's to say that an
SEC school like a Texas doesn't open up? And did
they want to coach from Penn State now that's on
the table in the NIL era, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
No, no, for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know what the smartest college football coach in recent
history is Nick Saban getting out when he did?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You know exactly when to get out? He spotted.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You know, everybody knew the landscape had changed with NIL
and the portal, but nobody knew how much.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It feels like he got ahead of that curve, doesn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And you know who's cut from that same coaching cloth,
Dabbo and Clemson. And he did not hit the eject
button and he did not get out in time. And
he tried to be like, oh, I'm not going to
use the portal. I'm going to do it the old
fashioned way. And look at where Clemson is now. I mean,
they are just at the bottom of the ACC.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
What could he have done? I don't think he was
too young. He quit like us use the portal starts
splashing mother. No, Nick Saban didn't even want to deal with.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
The That's what I'm saying, and Dabo doesn't either, But
he just kept coaching with it.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
He was like, I'm just not going to use this.
I'm just going to recruit and keep guys in house.
You think Nick Saban's ever going to come back.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I don't think so. I think that's foolish. This the
talk around him being wooed by an LSU or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Likes to talk, though. I think that's why he just doesn't,
you know, shut it down. I guess LSU would have
a little bit of especially.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
He does shut it down. That's the great thing about
our sports media. Guys will tell us what they're going
to do or not going to do, and we still
won't believe them.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Now, part of that is because they're often lying.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Like sid It's a perfect example of that. How many
times he does tell us that he doesn't want to
get traded, that he wants to be a Penguin.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, but then his agent well didn't double cross him
because I still think that that that each knew what
was going on.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, LSU.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Maybe with Nick Saban just because he coached there before,
but I don't even why would he want to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
He's such a great gig on game day right now.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
If I were Nick Saban and I came back, I'd
come back to the pros because because prove it, college
football is the pros now, it's just a different kind
of pros with with a very similar set of problems,
don't you think.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, And it's his only failure as a coach is
in the NFL level. So if you could go to
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Was he was?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
He the Bills Dolphins and it went real best terrible
couple of years in Miami. Then he left and went
to Alabama and that's when the Alabama dynasty started.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Why did college coaches like Urban Meyer failed in the
pros as well?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Why do they? Why do they fail at the pro level?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I think those older coaches when it wasn't like college
is the pros, like you could kind of be more
of a dictator, right, Like you can just boss these
kids around and tell them.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
What business on the first syllable.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, yeah, Like you can just boss these kids around
and they're like, yes, sir, I have to do this.
You're my coach. I'm in college. When you get to
the pros, like, you can't do that. You have to
have a different vibe around those guys.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What the urban mark? Did he grope somebody who's a
script cover? So he grabbed somebody at a bar.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, there's a picture of him right up in there
at a bar, not his wife, and the team had already.
It was like the tea stayed back after a Thursday
night game in Cincinnati at his house and the team
left for Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Right up in there, not his wife. Tom. That's why
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Speaker 2 (32:37):
What do we got for today's trifecta?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, tomorrow's Halloween mark so that means tonight is Devil's Night.
Did you ever partake in Devil's Night as a child?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yes, my most.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Embarrassing moment, Oh one of my friends their houses. Their house,
they had an inflatable like Halloween figure on their fortune.
I ran up and stabbed it with a knife or
deflated it somehow, I forget exactly and the mother.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh no, so I just ran.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
The worst is getting caught on Devil's Night. I guess
the PC proper way is Mischief Night.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Now.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
They tried to rebrand it. No, it's Devil's in Detroit.
They basically burned the city.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Done.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I think Devil's Night. I think Devil's Night means different
things in different places.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
All right, Well, here are three of the classic pranks
when it comes to Devil's Night. Number three one that
I'm not a fan of is the smashing pumpkins prank.
I don't know why I didn't like that. I just thought,
you know, you do it once a year. You carved
these pumpkins. Why would you smash it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, I've met Billy Corgan. He's all right, you know, so, yeah,
I'm not. I'm not the biggest fan.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Number two is that you're taking away from the next night's.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Uh, the festivity exactly. Number two is the t peeing
of houses. I mean, that's a really classic one. But
my favorite one. Number one is egging. I love egging
a house. I have egged houses before. It's the best.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
What's how old were you the last time you egged
the house? High school? Egging could cause damage like the
windows and stuff like that.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Oh yeah in high school. Yeah, you don't think about
that would jump t ped to number one.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You know why because in that seventies show, the gang
t peed the house of the music teacher because he
was being rude to Fez is the is they prepared
the musical for the high school that year. And what
makes it even better was they they did a great
shot of it looked like like a t peat house
like it was perfect if you could if you could
(34:22):
imagine t peing a house. The gang did it to
the music teacher. And guess who played the music teacher.
It makes great Roger.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Daltrey, Oh my god, what a great cameo. Oh you
Dudy Anticans. It was tremendous.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So egging is just more fun for me because you know,
you can fire an egg at a house you get
that nice splat. But t peeing definitely has that more
aesthetic appeal, like if you go to a street that
was hit like and it just looks like it's just
almost like Christmas decoration.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It actually looks good, except day you can't get rid
of it.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You have to clean it all up. Yeah, exactly, that's
the big problem with it. Another popular one that it
didn't make my trifecta. But I've ever forked a yard
where you just get a bunch of plastic forks and
you just stick them in the yard and then you
have to go out and you have to take them
all out after that.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
That's a pretty good idea. Okay, I don't have a
yard some of no danger. I want some of you
kids out there. We have a younger demographic to some degree.
I want you go to go fork a yard tonight
and I want photos sent to me posted on Twitter,
super Genius at wxdx dot com, my twitters at Mark Maddnext.
Somebody out there, go fork a yard, and if nobody does,
(35:25):
you can all go fork yourselves. Uh. The trifecta brought
was by Danny's PiZZ and Hogies, Pittsburgh's original oven bake
togy since nineteen sixty that's on Route eighty eight and
Bethel Park. I like the fork thing. Actually I didn't
hear about it till just this second. I like it
better than the other stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, it's easy to get a bunch of plastic forks.
I mean, you just run into a taco bell. That's
gonna be annoying as hell because they'll break when Yeah, exactly, tom,
you know what we have to do tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
At some point, maybe you can make this the trifecta
top Halloween candies. That is a that is a clicheed
and trite and tired but unavoidable Halloween debate.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Don't worry, Mark, I was already planning on embracing that
cliche tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah you know, I'm debating.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
My neighborhood is not big for trick or treating, not
many kids there. Should I not buy candy like I
bought it like for years and I leave it on
the stoop and the bowl and nobody takes any But
if I, if I don't buy some this year, chances
are that's the your kids show up and then what
little yard I do have gets forked.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Ap or something like that. Yeah, what should I do?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think you should just maybe just buy one bag
of candy and then put it out on it here.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And here's the problem too.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
If I whatever candy doesn't get taken, I wind up
eating and now with the wake in one to eighty,
that's just off the table.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Remember last year, I did do that. I did do
that last year. Yeah, I'll eat it at all. Just bring
it in here.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Tom quick thought World Series Toronto won the last two
games in La. Are they going to win it going
back home? And has it been a good World Series?
Or is the fact that it's a three hundred and
fifty million dollar payroll against the two hundred and fifty
million dollar payroll just remind Pittsburgh fans of how unattainable
a World Series will be.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Ever, Yeah, but that's more so because your owner is
just such a crook. And even though you're never gonna
spend that much money, you could spend more money than
you are and you could have a chance at least.
So I don't really care about that part. It's been
a great World Series as far as I'm concerned. It's
been awesome baseball. Big players stepping up, Vladdie. I mean,
Otani's the best player in baseball, but Vladdie's starting to say, hey, are.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You we sure Judge is the second best? I might
have a case for this year.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Well, and I just want to see what happens in
Game seven, you know, because Otani shouldn't pitch, but it's
all hands on deck and if it's a close game,
you know, will will he get in there?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
How? How much will he risk? Cause?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Because I think the guy like that, Well, no, in
game seven, you got the whole offseason, it's not I mean,
there should be all hands on deck.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
How would a towny pitch though, Like he's the DHR
and he's already in the game, Like, would you be
able to just throw him onto the mound and then
let him go after that?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Because there's the rule if you're pitching, you can get
taken out and go to DH.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I'm not certain it works vice can you just go
from DH to pitching?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I guess you have position players that do end up
going and pitching in games, right, but I think they
come from the bench. Am I mistaken there?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
About? I about he's zero for seven since that that
that ext r inning game.
Speaker 9 (38:11):
I'm just surprised that they're giving him a chance. That
they hit the two home runes and walked. I gotta
tell you, I watched the game last night. Most of
it is that Bat's more good for some reason. You know,
he never looks uncomfortable. He looked uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I think the Jays have Gosman their ace going on
Friday for Game six.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
This is their chance. Jay's got to win there. Yeah,
I know it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You know what's funny. This is a deeper conversation maybe
for tomorrow. But you know, Rob Rossy, great hockey writer, right,
had real great insight. I was on the phone with
him about the salary cap in MLB. He says it'll
be unique in that the rich owners will want the
cap for cost certainty, and the lower money owners like
Nutting won't want the cap because they don't want to
(38:58):
spend in the floor. So it's exactly the opposite of
the usual dynamics, right, because usually the small market owners
want the cap to be more competitive, and and and
he said he wasn't a one hundred percent sure, but
he thinks in a cap league, there's no revenue sharing.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Which would hurt the smaller market owners specifically nothing even more.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
So, right, So what would it be weird if the
Dodgers are campaigning for a cap and the Pirates aren't.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
But I think he's right that it's gonna happen. Yeah,
I mean, Rogie should cover baseball one oh five, ninety
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Plant at the Capitol Theater in Wheeling tonight. They only
made one. He'll probably not do rock and roll. If
he does, he'll slow it down. It's gonna be very acoustic,
even it'll be great. Plant's been in Wheeling like the
last few days because it's the opening night of the tour,
(00:20):
you know, doing sound checks, getting the equipment iron on
and everything. And people who have met him say he's
being kind of a dink, but that's no surprise.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Robert Plant's kind of a dink, but he's Robert Plants.
Uh Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
One thing I'll say about Kyle Dugger, the Steelers new
safety is.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
He can lay the wood.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Dougger's good hit, that's assuming he gets out there. But
with the Shawn Elliott, I'm not sure there's another choice,
a better choice. And maybe if Dugar lays the wood,
it wakes the Steelers up a little bit. But Elliott
he hits too, and that ain't really helped. You know,
what should happen? What needs to happen when the Colts
(01:07):
visit across on Sunday? How about what gets three sacks
and Cam gets two sacks? A Ramsey gets a pick
and DK catches two touchdowns, and all the guys who
got the bag do something besides just having got the bag.
(01:32):
Go earn your paycheck instead of grimacing and getting the
booboo face after the game when you lost, you got
the bag, you got the money.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You cast a check. Now pay your bills, what.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Cam Ramsey, DK metcalf pay your bills? And now about
coach Steve comes up with some twist that gives us
Steelers some kind of edge.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The approach, everything about the Steelers gonna be samey, same,
same old plan, no adjustments. Everybody plays like they always do,
and the Steelers lose for a third straight time. The
Steelers have no plan besides showing up and being the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It ain't working. Yo, Coach t that ain't working.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Let's bring on Tommy Radio, Tom Yo am I right,
the big paycheck guy's gonna earn them hold themselves responsible.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, absolutely, especially in a game like this where the
team's facing a three game losing streak. You're playing arguably
the best team in the NFL. Statistically speaking, you are
playing the best offense in the NFL. Yeah, DK needs
to put up a big game. A couple touchdowns one
hundred and twenty five yards receiving. Watt needs to have sacks.
Cam Hayward needs to tip some balls in the air
that get picked off by Jaylen Ramsey in that slot position.
(03:01):
Of course, you're right, they need to step up. They've
been too invisible over these two games.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That the Steelers have lost.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Who's the most likely of the four I mentioned, who's
most likely to come up big against Indy, Cam Watt,
Ramsey or Metcalf?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Metcalf because I think the best way to beat Indianapolis
is to just get in a track meet with him and.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, like of course he said, play basketball. That's a
good way to put it. Be prepared to win thirty five,
thirty one or whatever. Every possession needs to end in
the end zone. That's the goal.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And their best bet to do that is Rogers throwing
the ball like fifteen times the DK Metcalf, I think.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, I agree, d CAFF's probably the best bet because,
like you said, he's connected to Rogers, who's been good
all year.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Who didn't get the bag and has been delivering, right right, who.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Took less yes of a bag and has been delivering.
Then again, he's not hurting for money. Uh he even
turned down the million per year from McAfee, so he
doesn't say dumb crap.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So kudos to to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And yeah, since since Rogers can elevate metcalf, maybe that's
the most like. But half I think that defense is
dead d e a D as in deceased because as
a season grows older, the old dudes, they don't rally,
they don't get fresher, they just get older. And you
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look at those guys when they talk after loss, it
seems like they run up a white flag instead of
a terrible tale.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And when you look at their defense specifically, like game
to game, mark they're averaging giving up eleven points in
the fourth quarter. You know why because they're old and
they're out there for a long time, and then the
fourth quarter rolls around and they're fading when the game
goes on. And you take that and you blow that
up into the context of an entire season. I mean,
we're already starting to see them show the signs of
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their age at the halfway point of the year. What
is this going to look like in week fourteen? What's
this going to look like after Thanksgiving? When you get
into the stretch run.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And by the way, I excluded Rogers from the guys
who have to deliver the old guys with the bag
because like you said, he didn't get that big of
a bag, and he has mostly delivered, and he is
my f steeler. I feel like Cam is just too
old to probably want to and what the way he plays,
which requires that big burst, that burst is gone. He
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won't adjust, not even where he lines up. And Cam, Yo,
if I'm not mistaken, I look at the depth charts.
He's matched up against Quenton Nelson, who is just a
bear of a guard for the Colts. Quent Nelson gonna wear.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Out Cam's old ass, you know, I think that might
be the case now, previous couple of meetings, Cam Hayward's
actually gotten the better of Quenton Nelson.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He's been great.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
But Cam Hayward's been getting the better of a lot
of guards for a long time in this league. And
you have to wonder Mark if now is officially timed
to say he's lost a step and he's, you know,
starting to show the signs of the age and he's
starting to fade a bit, And I don't think that's unfair.
I mean, he's honestly a marvel that he lasted as
long as he did at the level that he did,
so it's expected that he should be slowing down a bit.
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And furthermore, no one.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Said that that's why he held in for more money
as he knows that he didn't get none the oky
dunk bonuses that he won't reach. But he sees the
end coming, even though he had an all pro campaign
last year.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You just know you're the guy living inside your body.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
That was his last gasp. I think he probably knew that. Furthermore,
no one's really stepping up around him. I mean, Derek
Harmon had a nice little drolt when he came in,
but he's kind of in so quiet these past couple
of games. And Kanye Benton, I mean, Kanye Ben is
just not a good player. He's just an okay guy.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I want to refer back.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You said the Steelers are averaging eleven points allowed in
the fourth quarter. I think it's more than that because
according to Matt Williamson, forty percent of the Steelers points
a lot of coming the fourth quarter. If that doesn't
indicate the elderly collapsing as the game grows older, and so.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Do they I don't know, what does I think you're
I think it is slightly more.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I think it's the real number is closer to twelve,
Like it's like eleven point seven or something like that.
But I didn't want to get too decimally and get.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Nerdy on that air. At any rate, that's a lot
of points.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's a ton of points, Mark, I mean, it's by
far the worst in the league. And I really think
it's a sign of age. It's just you're out, it's
the fourth quarter and you're old.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And the thing is with guys like Cam and Watt,
they will make just enough plays against bad teams to
prop up their myth and then their stooges. They're fans people.
To me, He'll say, well, see they're not done, but
they're done, like the Browns.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The Browns game is a perfect example of that, right,
Like didn't the Browns game was the Steelers defensive myth
this year. They had six sacks, they were wreaking havoc
all over the place, Dylan Gabriel couldn't get a pass off.
They stopped the run decently. Well, like that was a
game that you're talking about that they'll point to and say, oh,
they wrecked that game. What are you talking about? Steers
defense still has that capability. Yeah, he played Browns. You
do what has to be pissing off?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
What that Parsons and Garrett are clearly doing better.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Than him and Aiden Hutchinson just got the bag himself
for Detroit. But he deserves to get that bag because
he's ascending as far as his career is concerned. And
those are the three now mark like Parsons and Garrett
are still in that class, that elite trio that Watt
was a part of, but now you have to say
that Hutchinson is that third and Watt has fallen a
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tier beneath.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Now, speaking of miss why doesn't tom Win's massive ego
motivate him to try some grand stand nutty strategy like
follow Ben's advice about Ramsey covers the tight end, which
you know with Tyler Warren on Indy, to me, that's
worth a try to try to mark him out of
the game and diminish their weaponry. Why will tom Win
just come out and play it the same and he
(08:19):
will deny he plays it the same?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It reminds me of Mike Sullivan used to complain to
like the Pengwins pr staff about my criticism. Well, we're
doing stuff that he doesn't see. Okay, I been watching
hockeys that I was sick. You're not doing stuff I
don't see. But that's kind of the stance that Tom
Win takes and all his coaches take all the time,
that we know more than you do.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, you're just too dumb to understand what you're watching
out here, So why don't you just leave it to
the professionals. We are changing things, but they're not. They
do the same thing. They're very vanilla. One of the
more vanilla defenses in the league. And I don't know
why he won't adjust, because you know, that's the sign
of a good coach with a strong ego too, to
be like, I'm so good at defensive scheming.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I got something in my bag for the calls.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'll give you an example. Jim Rothinford Pengwins GM made mistakes.
Should always correct his mistakes. Like a lot of coaches GMS,
when they make mistakes, they won't correct them because that is.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
To acknowledge them.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, but I think it's a sign of a good
organization when you act, when you grow your mistakes and
you correct them and you actively try to What.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Would you do, Tom, you know so friggin' much. What
would your strategy be for the game Sunday. I'd put
Ramsey on the tight end, just like big Ben said, Mark,
you know what, I would put Ramsey on the tight end.
You know, play the slut, just like big Ben said,
here's something, here's the here's the nutbar off the grid stuff.
I would do, okay, because it's worth a try, because
(09:41):
you you fit to get killed by these sum bitches,
because they can score.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I would come out with.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Three wide outs, spread the field and cross them up early.
I'd grow it deep a few times early, maybe go
no huddle and let Rogers call plays go against your
own grain.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And you need to start making that your grain.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Like that's the way you should beat the Colts, and
then that's the way you should try to beat the Chargers,
and then the Bengals the next week, and then the
Bears the following week. Like you need to be an
offensive team. Now you need to embrace that. You saw
what it looked like.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I just embraced up, but finally understand what the league is.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, I mean you did it when you had the
killer when they had the number one offense in football,
it was very comfortable for Mike Tomlin to be an
offensive mind to coach. You remember, they would go for
two all the time after scoring the opening touchdown. They
were aggressive on thirty still settle for field goals a lot,
did they?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I don't know they did.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Maybe a little more always have. That's just in his DNA.
But you gotta buck that right now. You have to
be more offensive mind.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Oh no, I do all that crap. I would blitz
more on defense. I'd play more press coverage on defense.
It might not work, but it would show an understanding
of what you're up against and again what the league is.
And like the course he said, you gotta win like
thirty five thirty one.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Blitz more on defense, but also blitz smarter. I mean
I saw.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I think it was Warren Sharp exposed like Jordan Love
eats the Blitz alive, and the Steelers blitz the most
they ever have against him.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
On Sunday night, he tore apart through.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
For like one hundred and eighty yards and all three
of his touchdowns against the Blitz.
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Looks like the Eddie Murphy routine with the Honeymooners Norton.
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Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's not far uh.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The news for tonight's game at Minnesota puck drops at
eight pm. Tristan Jarry is in goal, so the rotation
continues and Ben Kendall is in the lineup. That'll be
his tenth game, so his NHL contract kicks in for
the first year and that seems to indicate he'll be
staying all season. No word on whether Harrison Bruneck will
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be in the lineup or not. Tom, what is your
biggest surprise so far with the Penguins?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And it is really impressive to see someone like Kendall
be able to not only get a nice nine game
tryout period, but almost earn his way onto the roster.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Because I don't know almost, he definitely earned. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I don't think that they had this intention when they
started the season. I think that this was just to
get your feet wet experience with their first round pick.
You know, welcome to Pittsburgh and then you're gonna go
back to juniors. But he's just too undeniably good to
stay up here. The goaltending has been a really pleasant
surprise as well. Shootouts be damned. I mean, they are
definitely keeping this team in games and stealing them points.
(13:20):
And I thought Carlson he said that post game after
the Flyers, I thought that was a good point. Like
all year long, they've been doing a good job of
being able to steal some points for us.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, well tonight it's a winnable game. The wild off
to a slow start at three five and three. That's
three wins and eight losses. People always forget that the
overtime loss in the shootout loss is a loss because
it doesn't go under the l in the standings, but
it is indeed a defeat.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
They got kapras off. He's overrated.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Like I said, a very winnable game for the Penguins,
and you gotta win the games you can win.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
If you're a borderline playoff team.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Just don't let it go to a shootout because the
Penguins are no good at those, especially between the sticks,
whether it's Jari or shilloffs. If I had to listen,
the biggest surprise about the Penguins so far, it would
be the big dudes on Gino's line. Brazo with six goals,
Manta with five goals. That's incredible. From two ham and agers.
I would say Shay and Watherspoon aren't legitimate top four defensemen,
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but in those roles they're not killing the Penguins. Carlson
isn't the worst except what he is, but he's playing
the best he's played as a Penguin, fundamentally with some
egregious errors, admittedly stirred in because he's Carlson. I love
all the kids. How about are they right now? Are
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they all gonna stay? What's their ceiling? I don't know,
but I do see the potential. I see the future
and I feel the energy.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Tom. What about the goaltending?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
The goaltending has been slightly above average, but they are
making some saves at opportune times. There's a lot of
luck in with that. There's a lot of getting hit
involved with that. Can the above average goaltend to continue?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think it can continue because I think that the Penguins,
if they in front of the goaltending, play in the
structure that Dan Muse is implemented, and they're disciplined in that,
they create a lot of savable shots, Like it's a
lot of easy shots for goaltenders to turn aside, and
it's it's really on you, right, Like, if you're just
an average NHL goalie, you should be able to make
this save nine times out of ten. So go make
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this save nine times out of ten, and so far
Jari and Seelofs have done that. So as long as
I keep seeing that from the Penguins in front of
the goaltending, I don't see a reason why they should,
you know, all of a sudden blow up, either one
of them.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, but they could both of them, one of them
all of a sudden blow up.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Jarry has a track record of leaking in those goals
that you should save nine times out.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'm talking like twenty goals in three games. But you're
right at this point, I do trust shilloffs more than
I do Jari. I'm obviously not surprised by Sid's performance
and production. I am a bit surprised by Geno. I
did not expect Gino to be just off the scoring lead.
But again, getting back to Brazo and Mantha, you know
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he's he's gotten new life from them in a new style.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Slightly.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I think the way he plays from them too, because
the formula with them to is simple. They drive to
the net and create space for Malkin. They do dirty
work down low when the puck's there, and they play simple,
So Gino has to play simple, simpler or anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Gino, it's really just off the legs stay under him
for an entire season. And I thought he actually played
pretty well for a back to back night against Philadelphia.
I mean, the whole team kind of took off the
first two periods, but in the third period, I thought
Gino was okay. You know, he wasn't like noticeably sluggish
out there. But I feel like I'm just gonna keep
saying I'm waiting for that shoe to drop, for him to,
you know, start to put some sluggish performances together, and
(16:50):
then people start to say, oh, you're hating on him,
you hate Gina.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But maybe maybe this is his Ovechkin season. I think
last year, you know, I mean, Alex has slowed down.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
No, he's starting.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
To he's starting to put some goals in that, but
I'd be surprised if he gets many more than thirty,
you know, after I think his motivation's gone because he
knows they can't win a Cup and he's already caught
Gretzky and it's too long to stick around to get
to a thousand. But maybe Gino just has that Indian
summer of a season like ob did last year, that
one last great run, and it would be It would
(17:22):
be great to see, and it's been fun to watch
so far.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It would be great to see. But it cannot and
I'm gonna sound like a hater again too, but you're
gonna agree with me. It cannot lead to another contract.
It cannot lead to him coming back to Kindle No
at third line center. Now, Kendall is your second line
center of the future. It's time for him to start
playing that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Then again, I mean, I'm gonna play Devil's African here
because I would not bring Geno back almost under any circumstances.
But what if Kendall is perk near but not plumb
to be the number two center last year next year?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I get what you mean with the what if.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I find it hard to believe that that's gonna be
the case, though, Like I don't think we're gonna arrive
at that point at the end of the season. Based
on what we've seen for Kendall so far. I think
we're gonna see, Wow, this dude needs to be the
second line center.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, but you can't force feed that either. No, I
think it is going to come to kindle playing this
year with Coyvedon and McGroarty when McGarty's healthy head line,
and then if that's a third line, I'm okay with
that being the third line, as long as you don't
make him do Chip and Chase.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But I news won't do that.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, I don't think he will either. He's such a
good developmental coach. He gets it, he gets what that
third line is. The idea of that kid line.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Would be yeah, yeah, that's absolutely correct. Now you got
Minnesota tonight. I mean they got some good players. Although
Caprosov is overpaid and overrated, that doesn't mean.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
He's not real good.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I always say everybody thinks when you call somebody overrated,
you're thinking they suck. Okay, Kaprasov's real good. I just
wanted to have given him a jillion friggin dollars or
whatever the frig I mean, they had to do it
because they had to keep their star.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But it's too much money.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I mean, he can't even score as many goals as
a thirty eight year old Mark. I mean Crosby's got
two more than him. I mean how much is he
really worth it?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, no, but for them he is. But Minnesota Knight's winnable.
At Winnipeg on sad, that's a tough one. At Toronto Monday,
a tough one. Then Wash comes here, you need to
win that. At New Jersey, I mean, they're good, but
if you're for real, you go there and beat them.
So my point is it does get tougher. New Jersey's
eight and two tie with depends on points. I gotta
(19:23):
tell you though, just as I'm trepidationous about the Penguins
really being for real, Tom, I don't buy in with
New Jersey, Jake Allen and Gole and and you know
who's who's like a guy who's mostly been a backup recently,
and then Andre the giant, that mark Strom guy who's
not a good goal that he's just big. So so again,
(19:43):
the longer they stay in it, the longer they're going
to stay in it, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
No, absolutely, you look around and it's the entire metro.
You're like, there's just no one that's really impressive. Honestly,
the most impressive team to the start of the season
has been the Pittsburgh Penguins when it comes to the
metropolit kind of got that Capital's vibe from last year,
at least at the start of the season, where it's
like no one saw them coming. But now they're towards
the top. They have the most points in the league.
They're tired for the most points in the league with
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like four or five other teams right now. It's honestly remarkable.
I'm with you on New Jersey, like they don't overwhelm
you that you don't think that they're gonna run away with.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Here's the problem, Tom, that Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I mean, Florida's crippled, Tampa and Toronto aren't really great
just now. Carolina started fantastic and lost two in a row.
To me, the conference is wide open, yes right now,
and Toronto should win the conference, but they won't. Carolina
should win the conference, but they won't.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Not yet. For Montreal, I can't decide.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I think I said Tampa before the season, but they
look really old and are not off the good start
right right now, based on what we've seen, who's your
Eastern Conference winner?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I think it's really hard to pick one.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, I'm honestly drawing a blank right now. I don't
want to say Carolina because I just it's hard for
me to see them in that style to get through.
But maybe this is just their year because there's just
there's just no one else to get in their way.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Montreal, I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You can't buy into them yet, right they're hot cross
right of course, then they'll push them over the finish line.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Detroit, No, I've been kindle also a Montreal fan.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I guess I would probably still have to say Toronto
just because it's early in the season. They'll probably get
their heads on straight. But there's just no one that
overwhelms you. Like I said, the Penguins are the story
of the Eastern to be tremendous.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
If Toronto and Carolina played an Eastern Conference final and
one of them had to win, I think that's the
only way that one of them will win, is they
if they play somebody else who's in the same boat
as them that you just don't trust.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
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Speaker 1 (22:50):
That's Robert Plant with Zepplin there he does do that
song tonight Ramble on going to see him at the
Capitol Theater in Wheeling this evening. Maybe that should be
the big topic today. Should Robert Plant feel obligated to
play a lot of led Zeppelin song now at his
solo shows at age seventy seven, Because I'd say no,
(23:11):
it'd be nice, But he's not a jukebox.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And he does not feel obligated.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I can tell you that for sure he's doing
Gallows Pull Rain song, four Sticks, Ramble On at least
that's what's being considered. A few songs, the slower stuff.
Hey's seventy seven. He can't, you know, reach them high
notes like at the end of the whole lot of eleven.
And that's fine. Hey, I'll be honest, I go because
(23:38):
I feel obligated.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
He's freaking Robert Plants. Tom. Do you have an idea
who Robert Plant is? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I like led Zeppelin, Mark and I like led Zeppelin
before you know, I took over doing the show with you.
But come on, it's an all time band. I know
who Robert playing Jimmy page Art, Does he still do
Fool in the Rain?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No, I love that song, really, that is I like
that song a lot. You don't like that song, Why.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Well, that's off their least there. I don't want to
say worse because it's not bad. But if I ranked
their albums from I think they did nine from one
through nine, that would be ninth.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
And it sounds like it's almost like you got like
Moroccas and like you got like you know, South American
vibe going on in the middle of that song.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I can live without the South American vibe.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Although I think the best country song ever written was
a hot Dog from that album.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In Through the Octoor, they did a country song. It
was tremendous. I should listen to that.
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She took my love at seventeen. A little dight. These days, it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Seems so those are on the same albums together, that
song and Cool and the Rains.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
They're doing some experimenting on that album. Huh, Well, to
be blunt.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's because Jimmy Page and John Bonham were smacked out
in John Paul Jones and Plant kind of took it
over and they did the experimenting.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Okay, sounds good. Uh, who's your favorite musical act?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Like, as far as a rock band is concerned, if.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You could pick one musical act to go and see,
who would you pick?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I'm like the worst person to ask that because they
just don't go to concerts, Like that's just not my
cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Let's say you could go to see one, see one,
great seats, easy in and out.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And it has it has to be like Current and
they're still touring. Because my life could be anybody. It
could be somebod who's dead. Historically it would be Queen.
I'd love to see Freddie Mercury perform. They're one of
my favorite bands. And I never saw Queen with Freddy.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Definitely a top three band for me, and I saw
Queen with Paul Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Queen several times with Adam Lambert recently, but it's not
the same. And that's all due respect great because Rogers
is an all time great singer, you know, Bad Company,
Free the Firm and all that, and Adam Lambert is
just the perfect fit for them, but he's not Freddy, So.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I mean, I love the band and the music, and
then just seeing him as a front man would be
all time.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So I gotta go with queen, Uh, you're our college
football expert, because I don't care.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Breaking news.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Matt Woohle, the presumed successor to James Franklin at Penn State,
has signed a contract extension with Nebraska. Why they want
to extend him after the you know, mediocre run he's
had there, I do not know. Probably probably to keep
him from Penn State, I guess, I mean with him,
maybe it's better the devil that they know in Nebraska
and Indiana upcree up Signetti long term for just huge
(26:18):
money to keep him from from having a wandering eye.
So uh see, I don't see this as bad for
Penn State. I think Matt rules the AD's friend up there,
not much else and not much of a friend if
he's going to stay at Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But where does this take the job search?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, first of all, do you think Nebraska maybe just
knows who Nebraska is now that they should just be
comfortable with him.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Like Penn State doesn't know who Penn State is. Nebraska
knows that they're not the top dog in the Big Ten. Anymore.
Matt Rule.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Getting him to eight nine wins a year is probably
just what they should expect now moving forward, maybe win
a big game now and then with Penn State, do
you pivot to Brian Kelly who just got fired by LSU.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's the same coach that's out there, right?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Is that the guy a lot of than Franklin, who
I think is probably the top of the list to Virginia, right,
he should.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Acc Franklin versus Nardozzi. He'd be at the top of
that car great in a couple of years. I think
so too. He really would be.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I think Penn State made an egregious air firing him
after part of one bad season.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He just already dominates the DMV area as far as
recruiting his concerns. He just transitioned that to Virginia Tech.
You're still recruiting that same hotbed.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And that's why it would be a great hire for Virginia. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, he'd be the top of that. It's an easy
conference too, Like he can't win big games. What's your
big game? Miami?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
And Miami's always never like a huge game.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
If he went to the ACC and just couldn't win
those big games, either if he just kept losing a
lower level of big game.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Miami, Florida State, and Clemson that became the new Big
three that he couldn't overcome.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I think Franklin will go there.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Kelly and Penn State just seemed like such a great fit, though,
I mean, Kelly's just such an a hole.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Penn State I hate them. I mean they just seemed
like a match made in heaven.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Do you think Penn State now, after restabilizing the program
after the Sandusky scandal through Bill O'Brien and the invaluable
work he did in his two years there, and then
Franklin's you know, pretty lengthy run, do you think now
they're gonna be just another college program that coach in,
coach out, coach in coach out, that changes relatively frequently.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's the risk that they're running right now. I mean
there's a chance that they hire somebody in the prod.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Of the nil Anyway, do you think coaches have a
shorter shelf life in this era?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
It just has changed the way you look at certain
schools too, Like would you have ever thought that a
coach from Notre Dame would leave ever in your lifetime?
And then Brian Kelly did that just four years ago
and went to LSU. Now he's already fired from LSU.
So it has changed the landscape as far as that's concerned.
Like Penn State can't be viewed as the finishing stage,
you know what I mean? Like you could get a
coach that is a great hire after Franklin has a
(28:37):
ton of success there. But who's to say that an
SEC school like a Texas doesn't open up? And did
they want to coach from Penn State now that's on
the table in the NIL era, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
No, no, for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know what the smartest college football coach in recent
history is Nick Saban getting out when he did?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You know exactly when to get out? He spotted.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You know, everybody knew the landscape had changed with NIL
and the portal, but nobody knew how much.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It feels like he got ahead of that curve, doesn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And you know who's cut from that same coaching cloth,
Dabbo and Clemson. And he did not hit the eject
button and he did not get out in time. And
he tried to be like, oh, I'm not going to
use the portal. I'm going to do it the old
fashioned way. And look at where Clemson is now. I mean,
they are just at the bottom of the ACC.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
What could he have done? I don't think he was
too young. He quit like us use the portal starts
splashing mother. No, Nick Saban didn't even want to deal with.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
The That's what I'm saying, and Dabo doesn't either, But
he just kept coaching with it.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
He was like, I'm just not going to use this.
I'm just going to recruit and keep guys in house.
You think Nick Saban's ever going to come back.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I don't think so. I think that's foolish. This the
talk around him being wooed by an LSU or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Likes to talk, though. I think that's why he just doesn't,
you know, shut it down. I guess LSU would have
a little bit of especially.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
He does shut it down. That's the great thing about
our sports media. Guys will tell us what they're going
to do or not going to do, and we still
won't believe them.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Now, part of that is because they're often lying.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Like sid It's a perfect example of that. How many
times he does tell us that he doesn't want to
get traded, that he wants to be a Penguin.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, but then his agent well didn't double cross him
because I still think that that that each knew what
was going on.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, LSU.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Maybe with Nick Saban just because he coached there before,
but I don't even why would he want to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
He's such a great gig on game day right now.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
If I were Nick Saban and I came back, I'd
come back to the pros because because prove it, college
football is the pros now, it's just a different kind
of pros with with a very similar set of problems,
don't you think.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, And it's his only failure as a coach is
in the NFL level. So if you could go to
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Was he was?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
He the Bills Dolphins and it went real best terrible
couple of years in Miami. Then he left and went
to Alabama and that's when the Alabama dynasty started.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Why did college coaches like Urban Meyer failed in the
pros as well?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Why do they? Why do they fail at the pro level?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I think those older coaches when it wasn't like college
is the pros, like you could kind of be more
of a dictator, right, Like you can just boss these
kids around and tell them.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
What business on the first syllable.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, yeah, Like you can just boss these kids around
and they're like, yes, sir, I have to do this.
You're my coach. I'm in college. When you get to
the pros, like, you can't do that. You have to
have a different vibe around those guys.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What the urban mark? Did he grope somebody who's a
script cover? So he grabbed somebody at a bar.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, there's a picture of him right up in there
at a bar, not his wife, and the team had already.
It was like the tea stayed back after a Thursday
night game in Cincinnati at his house and the team
left for Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Right up in there, not his wife. Tom. That's why
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Speaker 2 (32:37):
What do we got for today's trifecta?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, tomorrow's Halloween mark so that means tonight is Devil's Night.
Did you ever partake in Devil's Night as a child?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yes, my most.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Embarrassing moment, Oh one of my friends their houses. Their house,
they had an inflatable like Halloween figure on their fortune.
I ran up and stabbed it with a knife or
deflated it somehow, I forget exactly and the mother.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh no, so I just ran.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
The worst is getting caught on Devil's Night. I guess
the PC proper way is Mischief Night.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Now.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
They tried to rebrand it. No, it's Devil's in Detroit.
They basically burned the city.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Done.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I think Devil's Night. I think Devil's Night means different
things in different places.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
All right, Well, here are three of the classic pranks
when it comes to Devil's Night. Number three one that
I'm not a fan of is the smashing pumpkins prank.
I don't know why I didn't like that. I just thought,
you know, you do it once a year. You carved
these pumpkins. Why would you smash it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, I've met Billy Corgan. He's all right, you know, so, yeah,
I'm not. I'm not the biggest fan.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Number two is that you're taking away from the next night's.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Uh, the festivity exactly. Number two is the t peeing
of houses. I mean, that's a really classic one. But
my favorite one. Number one is egging. I love egging
a house. I have egged houses before. It's the best.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
What's how old were you the last time you egged
the house? High school? Egging could cause damage like the
windows and stuff like that.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Oh yeah in high school. Yeah, you don't think about
that would jump t ped to number one.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You know why because in that seventies show, the gang
t peed the house of the music teacher because he
was being rude to Fez is the is they prepared
the musical for the high school that year. And what
makes it even better was they they did a great
shot of it looked like like a t peat house
like it was perfect if you could if you could
(34:22):
imagine t peing a house. The gang did it to
the music teacher. And guess who played the music teacher.
It makes great Roger.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Daltrey, Oh my god, what a great cameo. Oh you
Dudy Anticans. It was tremendous.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So egging is just more fun for me because you know,
you can fire an egg at a house you get
that nice splat. But t peeing definitely has that more
aesthetic appeal, like if you go to a street that
was hit like and it just looks like it's just
almost like Christmas decoration.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It actually looks good, except day you can't get rid
of it.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You have to clean it all up. Yeah, exactly, that's
the big problem with it. Another popular one that it
didn't make my trifecta. But I've ever forked a yard
where you just get a bunch of plastic forks and
you just stick them in the yard and then you
have to go out and you have to take them
all out after that.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
That's a pretty good idea. Okay, I don't have a
yard some of no danger. I want some of you
kids out there. We have a younger demographic to some degree.
I want you go to go fork a yard tonight
and I want photos sent to me posted on Twitter,
super Genius at wxdx dot com, my twitters at Mark Maddnext.
Somebody out there, go fork a yard, and if nobody does,
(35:25):
you can all go fork yourselves. Uh. The trifecta brought
was by Danny's PiZZ and Hogies, Pittsburgh's original oven bake
togy since nineteen sixty that's on Route eighty eight and
Bethel Park. I like the fork thing. Actually I didn't
hear about it till just this second. I like it
better than the other stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, it's easy to get a bunch of plastic forks.
I mean, you just run into a taco bell. That's
gonna be annoying as hell because they'll break when Yeah, exactly, tom,
you know what we have to do tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
At some point, maybe you can make this the trifecta
top Halloween candies. That is a that is a clicheed
and trite and tired but unavoidable Halloween debate.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Don't worry, Mark, I was already planning on embracing that
cliche tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah you know, I'm debating.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
My neighborhood is not big for trick or treating, not
many kids there. Should I not buy candy like I
bought it like for years and I leave it on
the stoop and the bowl and nobody takes any But
if I, if I don't buy some this year, chances
are that's the your kids show up and then what
little yard I do have gets forked.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Ap or something like that. Yeah, what should I do?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think you should just maybe just buy one bag
of candy and then put it out on it here.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And here's the problem too.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
If I whatever candy doesn't get taken, I wind up
eating and now with the wake in one to eighty,
that's just off the table.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Remember last year, I did do that. I did do
that last year. Yeah, I'll eat it at all. Just bring
it in here.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Tom quick thought World Series Toronto won the last two
games in La. Are they going to win it going
back home? And has it been a good World Series?
Or is the fact that it's a three hundred and
fifty million dollar payroll against the two hundred and fifty
million dollar payroll just remind Pittsburgh fans of how unattainable
a World Series will be.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Ever, Yeah, but that's more so because your owner is
just such a crook. And even though you're never gonna
spend that much money, you could spend more money than
you are and you could have a chance at least.
So I don't really care about that part. It's been
a great World Series as far as I'm concerned. It's
been awesome baseball. Big players stepping up, Vladdie. I mean,
Otani's the best player in baseball, but Vladdie's starting to say, hey, are.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You we sure Judge is the second best? I might
have a case for this year.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Well, and I just want to see what happens in
Game seven, you know, because Otani shouldn't pitch, but it's
all hands on deck and if it's a close game,
you know, will will he get in there?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
How? How much will he risk? Cause?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Because I think the guy like that, Well, no, in
game seven, you got the whole offseason, it's not I mean,
there should be all hands on deck.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
How would a towny pitch though, Like he's the DHR
and he's already in the game, Like, would you be
able to just throw him onto the mound and then
let him go after that?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Because there's the rule if you're pitching, you can get
taken out and go to DH.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I'm not certain it works vice can you just go
from DH to pitching?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I guess you have position players that do end up
going and pitching in games, right, but I think they
come from the bench. Am I mistaken there?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
About? I about he's zero for seven since that that
that ext r inning game.
Speaker 9 (38:11):
I'm just surprised that they're giving him a chance. That
they hit the two home runes and walked. I gotta
tell you, I watched the game last night. Most of
it is that Bat's more good for some reason. You know,
he never looks uncomfortable. He looked uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I think the Jays have Gosman their ace going on
Friday for Game six.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
This is their chance. Jay's got to win there. Yeah,
I know it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You know what's funny. This is a deeper conversation maybe
for tomorrow. But you know, Rob Rossy, great hockey writer, right,
had real great insight. I was on the phone with
him about the salary cap in MLB. He says it'll
be unique in that the rich owners will want the
cap for cost certainty, and the lower money owners like
Nutting won't want the cap because they don't want to
(38:58):
spend in the floor. So it's exactly the opposite of
the usual dynamics, right, because usually the small market owners
want the cap to be more competitive, and and and
he said he wasn't a one hundred percent sure, but
he thinks in a cap league, there's no revenue sharing.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Which would hurt the smaller market owners specifically nothing even more.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
So, right, So what would it be weird if the
Dodgers are campaigning for a cap and the Pirates aren't.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
But I think he's right that it's gonna happen. Yeah,
I mean, Rogie should cover baseball one oh five, ninety
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