November 26, 2025 • 35 mins
Mark and Tommy Radio talk Steelers and Penguins sure, but the main course is a healthy helping of nothing but Thanksgiving talk on the eve of perhaps our greatest holiday
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Mark Mann Show. Don't come down, don't
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The Athletics says the Steelers have an eighteen percent chance
to make the playoffs, but they could. They could even
win a playoff game because the NFL is so random.
But the Steelers have no foundation for excellence, no plan
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for excellence. They would rather be steady than successful. It's
a bad outlook. It's horrific management. It's poor roster assembly,
it's rotten coaching. It's a flawed roster with a myriad
of holes. It's high priced bozos who don't produce on
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a level with their paychecks.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's an antiquated approach.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And the Steelers might be six and five, but it
feels like rock bottom in terms of potential. The Penguins
those buffalo tonight. The Penguins have a plan. Don't know
how long it's gonna take. Coivenon back in the lineup,
Russ is ready to go. Kendall's going to be a scratch,
not because of bad plague, that's because of their playing
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for him as an eighteen year old rookie, and Tristan
Jari will be in the net.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Looks like morishall is going to go back down.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We got Robbie Merchant the River Hans at four point
thirty to celebrate the Hands winning the USL Championship. By
the way, it's River Hans Night tonight at the Penguin
Game Pit hosts Miami for a big game Saturday, which
I don't intend on talking about at all between now
and then, but if they lose. If they lose, I'll
bury him on Monday, because that's the way this show operates.
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And with the Steelers and Pirates, I mean, what do
you say, nothing ever changes. Give the Steelers credit. They
brought in one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time
and nothing changed. It's still stale. Now that is consistency.
Let's talk to Tommy Radio. Tom This all feels like
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regurgitation with the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Don't it.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, it feels like the same movie that we've been
watching over and over and over again from them, and
there is really no hope for change. You brought up
eighteen percent chance to make the playoffs. That seems pretty
spot on to me. To be honest with you, I
think what ten wins probably gets you in comfortably nine wins.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You're really starting to sweat some tie breakers.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I think this year ten you're a lock is not
a lock, but I think ken like ninety percent kitch in.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I think nine to eight tenkots.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You that's four more wins. They got to scrounge up
Miami at Cleveland Shore. You gotta steal one of the
Baltimore games and steal one against Buffalo and Detroit.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
They always play good against Baltimore tome they got except
for those last two games.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
How did those go well?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And that's why the Ravens went from three and a
half games back in Week six to tide with the
Steelers now, because the Steelers got their number, and we
know they're gonna be Baltimore not once, but twice. There's
a one hundred and forty one and two thirty percent
chance of that. No, it's like dumbness one oh one.
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What the Steelers do, It doesn't work, so they keep
doing it. The Steelers are one hundred percent sold on
a method that won't ever work.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Enough, Like do they think that if they just keep
doing this over and over again and stay stubborn in
their way, that the pendulum will eventually swing back to them?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Like they will swing the NFL back to this lag.
They can will the NFL back to the sentience in.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Acquiescing to their style, that their power which they don't have,
that their physicality which they don't have, that their old
school mentality which they betray every chance they get that
at some point that will pay off.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, they really do believe that.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's so foolish when the league itself is trying to
get that kind of out, that style out of the game.
Like they want offense, they want less physicality, you know,
no more hitting like you used to be able to.
Everything is geared towards offensive football in that league. To
be a team that is so gung ho on defense misguided.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
We keep dreaming about getting the right quarterback in the draft,
as I just spoke about. But A they won't draft
the right quarterback. B might not even draft the quarterback. See,
if they do get the right guy, this years will
fail him with development, weaponry, and scheme. Indeed, maybe that
quarterback refuses to come to Pittsburgh. He should refuse. Pittsburgh
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is death badly for quarterbacks. If I was near edge quarterback,
I'd pull on Eli Manning with San Diego and force
my way out, Well.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
There's just no way that they would be in a
position to draft you know, like I can't miss, doesn't
really need any you know, guidance prospect like a Joe
Burrow type that just would take any franchise to good heights.
They're never going to be picking number one overall to
do that. So then it comes down to getting a
player that you can find around like the tenth pick,
eleventh pick, and maximizing their potential. There's nothing that tells
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you this current coaching staff could ever maximize the potential
out of a quarter that.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
All you have to say about Tom when not knowing
what he's doing with quarterbacks is Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, and that was a Tom win Pike. He insisted
on Pickett.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
He said, we got our guy, and then Kenny Pickett,
I mean they failed him, but not as much.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
As as he feels failed them. He's awful. I mean,
look what's happened since he's awful. Kenny Pickett is that
pit guy. Sucks it. He's terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I had many sucks. He's terrible in the pros. Kenny
Pickett was the one that is definitely at the top
of that list. But there's other examples when you look
at all the other free agents that they went after.
I mean, Mitch Trubisky was a miss. Uh justin Fields
I think was a bit of a miss till.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Nobody ever blamed the Steelers or Tom went for that.
They blamed the guy the quarterback he failed. Yeah, yeah,
it just it just makes me puke poke like that
pu goad when the year ends, if he retires, I
just hope Aaron Rodgers will own up to how he
really feels about his time here, because that's potentially a
big headline. As I've said repeatedly, I don't think he's
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gotten it all what he bargained for. I don't think
the situation is anything like it was sold to him
that it was going to be. By the way a
Bucco note. Ken Rosenthal wrote at The Athletic that if
there is a cap with a floor and teams have
to spend a flour of over one hundred million in payroll,
that that's the one thing that might make Nuttings sell
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the team him and the Marlins owner. Rosenthal said that
they might not, how he put it, they might not
survive as owners if there was a salary floor. And
I heard the B team talking about that, saying how
great that would be? Yeah, until he sells the team
to Nashville. Because Nutting has done everything you can so
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far as Pirates owner to make the most money. So
if he sells the team, it will be to the
highest bidder. And ain't nobody in Pittsburgh Pittsburgh connected what
Mark Cuban my Penis wants to laugh? Ain't nobody going
to keep that team in Pittsburgh if Nutting decides to
sell it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Five ninety x.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Peng was hosting Buffalo tonight, third game in a row
at home. Penguins look over their first win in that
run of home games. You can watch the game at
Columbus with me Friday at seven pm at Dino's in Latrobe.
And if the boys want to fight, you better let them.
Penguins need to win tonight. Can't lose a third straight
at home. Buffalo not a great roster, but has won
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fur out of five. Tage Thompson has scored goals in
six straight games. Going to be a tough night. Let's
not talk to Tom Offerman. Tom, how can the Penguins
right this ship? I thought they did a lot good
in that loss to Seattle on Saturday the ot loss,
but as coach Dan Muse noted, it was a loss.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I hate to make it sound a simple, but they
just need to fill the net more. I mean, they
just need to capitalize on their opportunities. They're only averaging
one point eight goals over these past five games that
they've played in. They were shut out in one of
those games to the Minnesota while to start this homestand
so you know, I think they're getting decent opportunities, the
generating good chances. I mean, Mark, they massively outplayed the
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Kracking in that overtime period, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
On Saturday the question News noted, you still got to
finish exactly. And that goes for five on five too.
Like Clevenan's back in the lineup after being injured, I
need him to score. Kendall scratch tonight, which I get
with his development being eighteen, but I need him to
get on the sheet a bit more. Although he does
have five goals, that's pretty good return for an eighteen
year old rookie bros. I'm assuming he's playing the young
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guys just add energy, but they need add goals too.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, the depth needs to start scoring. Malkin and said
both scored the goals against the Krack and they aren't
a problem. And I mean Sid's line. I feel like
there's something missing there though, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I mean was playing there for Heck's sake, and secondary
scoring is tough to generate per se. We're going to
talk to Todler Kennedy and he was secondary scoring back
when he played for the nine Cup champions and that era,
so we'll see what he has to say.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Uh again, I don't know where that comes from.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Kindle the kids, Like I said, Kindle run in tonight
COVID and I hope Hayes doer.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now it's still the number one power play at thirty two,
but you need better five one five, And even with
the power play, I'm seeing cracks. And this is a
Penguins tradition with the man advantaged tom the better it does,
the more they complicate, and the more they manufacture their
own demise.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And I mean, you can't deny Kendall's effect to that
power play and how he has helped it become one
the best in the NHL to this point. Won't have
them tonight on the power play, and I worry moving
forward when Raquel comes back.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You've noted this. They'll put Kindle on power play too,
so Rakel can slide back to the first You know,
I want to hear jump some power play one tonight
with Kendle Lott. Who do you think that's a good question.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't know who they would use it instead of
Kendle because Russ Well rust is on it, but he
was sick for the past.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Couple of days, but looks he says he's should be back. Yeah,
like may I might put there go to defenseman. Yeah,
put la tangle on the left half wall. Why not, right, Carlson,
I hate to say, you know it's not bad in
the power play.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Is Hayes just plug him right in front of the net? Well,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean he's best on the on the right half wall,
but I mean that Sid geno rotation. Yeah, I mean,
I say my instinct would be to go with theftang.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Now, one good thing is I don't believe Sid's going
to decelerate. His problem could be line mateson Is Malcin
really is keeping up despite not having great line mates
five on five and a factor with Malkul and maybe
just some small degree.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Sid is muse limiting their ice.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Sid's averaging nineteen minutes a game Malkin eighteen and that's
still a lot, but it's not what they had been
playing under Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, And I think said, you know, if he was
playing you know, twenty one twenty two minutes a game,
he'd be fine. But I think that's having a massive
effect on Gino. I mean, less is more, I think.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
And then when when they go to the Olympics, even
though it's a travesty that rush is not in it,
Gino gets you know, that time off and comes really
that much more physically enter.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Judge for the stretch run.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, think about how hot he was at
the start of the season, right, that could be duplicated
come the end of the Olympics, come the beginning of March,
when you're trying to make that final playoff push, which
the Penguins are going to be just stuck in the
mud there, right, like they're gonna be in that soupy
wild card race, bottom of the metro race for this
entire season.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But if they can't get in like third in the
division and like build a cushion there, it'd be better
if they fell apart and got I still am holding
out hope for that top five pick if they don't
make the playoffs. Like we've talked about worst case scenarios,
and frankly with every day I fear that coming true.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
More that they missed the playoffs. But get a mushy
middle pick.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know, there are only four points out of being
in a top five or a top five pick slot
a bottom five team like that's.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Not out of the But when when you get down,
like you said late, and there's a billion teams in
that race, it's not so much about how many points
your back, it's how many teams you have to jump over.
Buffalo worries me tonight. One team is hot. The Penguins
are in a funk. Buffalo's got young defenseman doll in
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power and byram they're tough to pin in. I guess
my advice would be just don't go to overtime, because
we know what happens.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Then ZH and five in overtime this year, yeah, and
shoots ot and shootouts.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Maybe there's an element of the Penguins canna cool the
Sabers down a little bit. They have won two straight games,
and I think it's like four out of the last
six or even better than that. So yeah, they're they're
coming in hot. And I mean it's a team that
just at some point, the Sabers, you'd think would be
a competitive entity, right, they're stacking so many big picks
and good prospects for ever ever. But like you know
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what I'm saying, like at some point you have to
turn the corner almost accidentally.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
At some point it also gets in your DNA. There
are plenty of teams that never turn a corner accidentally
because it's in their DNA, like Toronto and they're bad
this year because the injuries, because they didn't know they
lost their best player in Mitch Marner until he was
already gone. But they won't win the Cup maybe ever,
because they just again in their DNA. Bruni is in
Wilkes for conditioning and I get that, and then probably
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Team Canada for the World Juniors and I get.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That, but I bet he's rattled.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I mean, you know, getting scratched moving here, there, everywhere,
you know, destination at this point unknown until he gets
officially named a Team Canada for the Juniors. It's gotta
be rough on him. I think he's made of sterner
stuff than to let him bother him.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But still, and also you think he just wants to
play too, right, like he just as a young kid,
like I know, he wants to be on the NHL
ice like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I mean, I think he's probably welcoming this conditioning trip
to Wilkes, But if it came down to waiting it
out at the NHL level and going back to juniors,
I mean, don't forget there's a money different, there's a
luxury difference, but I would think the hockey difference at
his age.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Will be the primary motivator.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And it's cliche to say, but I think you'd learn
more here at practice than he would playing down there
now world juniors, that's a way different story.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's gonna be so good for him, I hope.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And I think the Penguins are thinking like you are,
that he's getting more value out of practice time up
here than he would in juniors, because why wouldn't they
have just pulled the trigger with this.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
And I also think I also, I mean, I know
they hope that he can regroup and be a factor
at this level, but they'll see how it plays out
at Wilkes and then at World Juniors.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know, they've had some surprises anyway with Shane Weatherspoon
and the defense pairings.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So like, it's okay that Bernick's kind of struggling a
bit that that doesn't affect You're talking lefty righty there?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
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Speaker 4 (14:47):
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Speaker 2 (15:05):
Is this season?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Uh, here's a SoundBite from my interview yesterday with Mike
de Fabo of The Athletic talking about Mike Tomlin's double
talk regarding Aaron Rodgers and his injury and practicing and playing. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I'm glad you're asking me this question because it really.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Truly makes no sense what the Steelers did.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I don't know who made the call, but I don't
understand why Aaron Rodgers didn't play. So let's let's let's
start with last Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
What happened.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Mike Tomlin came out and he said Aaron Rodgers is
such a veteran quarterback he has so much experienced that
he doesn't need a lot of practice times, and he
said that Friday was going to be a really important day. Well,
Aaron Rodgers actually got out on the practice field earlier
than anticipated, did more than expected because he was out
there on Thursday, and then he took the majority of
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the first team reps on Friday. Okay, So then Sunday comes,
he's inactive. They start Mason Rudolph And after the game
we asked him what was the biggest reason.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Why Aaron Rodgers did not play?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And he said the amount of practice time he had.
So the same coach that on Tuesday said he doesn't
need practice time. He's a veteran.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Why would he need.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
To practice now? The biggest reason why Aaron Rodgers didn't
play is because he didn't practice enough. But that was
Mike Tomins decision to begin with, so it doesn't make
any sense. Then I asked him, I said, well, what's
going to be different in a week? Why is he
Why right now on Sunday are you able to say
he's going to be able to play in seven days.
A broken bone is a week's long injury weeks plural.
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So the bone was broken against the Bengals, it was broken,
still broken against the Bears. It's still going to be
broken in a week. The bone is not getting any better.
And Tom's answer was because he can practice more.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
During the week.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And then today during his press conference he again said
that Aaron Rodgers doesn't need to practice a lot. So
to me, it makes no sense. I don't understand, like
nothing is changing other than the way the Steelers are
looking at the situation. But seven days doesn't dramatically heal
a broken bone.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
The fabos one hundred percent right. That was a great rant.
What Tomlin said is contradictory and nonsensical. It's double talk.
It's what a con man does. Hey, I've been saying
Tomlin is a fraud for years and would have been
fired years ago anywhere else. Colin Coward said that we
got that sound a little bit later to repeat Mike
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Tomlin is a con man. He's a grifter. How much
proof do you need? And people are starting to figure
it out, actually nationally more than locally. Too many stooges
under the tent locally, by the way, an update from
Steelers practice, They're not very deep in but no sign yet.
Of Aaron Rodgers, Mason Rudolph, and Will Howard are out
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there doing the quarterback work. We're going to have our
Thanksgiving food round up with Tom's trifect in just a moment.
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football players, alumni, nil types, the power brokers. They want
to keep the interim coach Terry Smith in charge because
he's a Penn State lifer. They've won a couple of games.
They beat Nebraska convencently thirty seven to ten, and I
get it, he's a good guy, but he's never been
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a head coach at the college level, never ever been
a head coach at the college level.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
His turn at Penn State.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I don't have the same kind of faith in Terry
Smith that I did when Tom Bradley was supposed to
succeed Joe Paterno.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Before that all went sideways.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
But I just don't think that's a good move if
they keep Terry Smith. And that's the problem with firing
a coach in mid season. Some people like that at
the college level because you get a head start on
re establishing the program and next season's recruiting. But the
interim guy can, like in this case, I don't think
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even do very good. But somehow Terry Smith's still getting
a bunch of support to get the job. And it
wouldn't shot me if Penn State keeps him because he
beat Nebraska. That's the only reason. Heck, he's two and
three as the head coach in succeeding James Franklin, and
Penn State will regret firing Franklin for decades to come.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
They did a ton of damage to that program.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But who give us a rats ass about that when
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Speaker 2 (20:56):
Is your wife cook my wife phone cooking this next
she does cook off for Thanksgiving? Who cooks? Mother in law?
And then mom? I get two dinners. Two dinners. That's solid.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Now your trifecta is as everybody hopes to hear and
I do too.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Thanksgiving sides correct. These are the three best sides according
to me.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Number three mashed potatoes, always reliable, big old helping of
mashed potatoes. Number two, I'm going cranberry sauce, but the
jello kind that you get out of the can, none
of that homemade crap with real cranberries in it. Number one,
it's got to be stuffing. It's the undisputed champ. It
is the essence of Thanksgiving. And my two of my
one mark those are really the ones that are unique
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to Thanksgiving, right Like you have a turkey sandwich elsewhere
in the year, you have mashed potatoes with steak, you know,
in a June night or something like that. But you
don't get the cranberry sauce or the stuffing unless it's
Thanksgiving Christmas.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Two. Really, I don't really do stuffing on thanks On Christmas.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I do, okay, and I love stuffing, and it is
a proper number one choice here, but I only do
it twice a year, Thanksgiving a Christmas. Although there was
a period growing up there used to be something called
stovetop stuffing. Yes, and it wasn't great, but it wasn't bad,
and that would become in our house growing up, an
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easy side for my grandmother to make or my mom to.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Make, no doubt. I mean, it's still a thing you
can still get. It's easy as hell. It's like a
pack of you know, the bread crumbs. Throw a stick
of butter in there with some water and it's good
to go.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I want to break down stuffing a bit more, though,
because basic stuffing is the best. It's better if it's
inside the bird, that's better. Taste Almost any kind is fine.
My favorite variable is sausage stuffing, and I've even had
cheriso stuffing, you know, hot Mexican sausage but you're right,
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sausage is by far a runaway winter Now I would
put cranberry.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Sauce on my list, and here's why.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh No, to me, it's a side to the side,
like I put it on turkey a little bit, okay,
or oh, I have a mouthful of stuffing a mouthful
of cranberry sauce, okay, so I like it. To me,
it's a side to the side. I like the homemade
stuff better than out of the can. Uh Like gravy
to me is roughly in the same boat as cranberry sauce.
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So I would round out my top three. And by
the way, desserts are separate. We'll get to that a
little bit. I guess I would say mashed potatoes grudgingly
because I'm not the biggest fan with the wake in
one eighty. I'm I'm picking my poison. I'm with stuffing
as the exception and not massed potatoes. And here's why
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I rank mashed potatoes clearly below stuffing. And by the way,
it has to be homemade mashed potatoes, yes, okay, actually
mashed potato.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Do you like seeing a little bit of the skins
in there? No? No, you don't like that, do a
better job. Well's purpose sometimes who do a better job?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
No, No, I have had mashed potatoes that are like
that that aren't bad, but not for Thanksgiving. So if
you're cooking out there, get get the skin out, get
skin out of the game.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I guess is how I would put it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I put mashed potatoes a distance second of stuffing, though,
because it's similar to stuffing but not as good.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Like the use of gravy.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It's almost not the same thing, but the same deployment
to use it tominism.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, and again like you will have many opportunities to
have mashed potatoes throughout the year. It is a side
that is very common. Stuffing is unique to this holiday
season alone. You gotta go with the stuffing now. My
number three is a tough choice.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I would say Brussels sprouts, but it's not indigenous necessarily Thanksgiving,
but they are underrated in general. And I also I'm
thinking green bean casserole with onion straws.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yes, but here's the thing. I don't like it. I
don't eat it.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I just feel better if it's there, Okay, comfortable with it? Yes,
just let me go off the board. Here is this
a Thanksgiving item, because if it is, I'll put it
on their head of both the green bean casserole and
the Brussels rotts.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What about Rockley and cheese castle.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, I don't know if that's exactly you know, Thanksgiving indigenous.
It sounds fantastic. I would love to eat some of that,
but I don't know if that's, you know, a staple.
I think the castrole that's the staple on every Thanksgiving
dinner table is the green being cast role.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Now, Charlie Batchel, on the podcast he does with Tree Essex,
made a compelling case for macaroni and cheese. See and
I love mac and cheese, but is it indigenous to Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
And Charlie's argument was that more and more it's becoming that.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I think I agree with Charlie on that that it's
picking up a lot of steam right now.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It is such a borderline one.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I think that it is about to cross the precipice
though of being a common thing on the table for Thanksgiving.
I don't know how I feel about it, though, Mark.
I feel like it might be a little bit of overkill.
I grew up without it, so maybe change is making
me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I think it is overkilled.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, and again I have one exception to my awakened
one of the guidelines. That will be the stuffing and desserts, unfortunately,
because I can't resist those. Yeah, but how just lose
it back? I went to Liverpool, gained four pounds, lost
it back. You gotta you gotta gotta know when to
pick your spot. Sorry, awaken one eighty, But but you've
helped me lose. I think it's thirty four thirty four
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pounds and that's an under two months now.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You can't eat these, but I think a good dinner
roll too is very key. Okay, let me let me
you're right.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Roles are aren't necessary, yes, brand, because you've got you
need them to soak up whatever without question, whether it's.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Gravy, whatever's left on the plate. You used the roll,
soap it end of the role. Yeah. Now what would
you rather have though, rolls or biscuits. I do love
me some biscuits.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Here's the thing, though, in a vacuum, I'd rather have biscuits.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
On Thanksgiving that rolls are better for the soaking on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I think I agree with that. On Thanksgiving. The other
thing I like to do with a role. You know
those little like square butters that you get on Thanksgiving
that are out on the table.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
You just cut it open, but the little butter pats.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I cut it open like pac Man the Role and
just put the butter pat right in the middle of it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I feel that that's too crappy restauranty. I love it. Well,
some have taste. Some dun't corn.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Big corn guy on the table, just like a see
more peas peas that's not indigenous vegetable though now here's
something is indigenous we've not mentioned, but it's not on
my list, not even close, because I don't like them.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yams and sweet potatoes, agreed. I don't like them either,
but they are such a staple. I mean some people
have them. Probably if they were making their trifecta, that
would be people's number one.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I bet you know who made great yams special recipe
Kitty Foreman on that seventy Grand Foreman always looked forward
to the yams.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But I forget who, probably Eric.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Maybe it was uh, maybe it was the daughter that
like bang Kelso and ruined Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I forget what it is getting marshmallows on them right
like a little no well, no, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
If you want marshmallows, feel free, because I'm not going
to eat them either way.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
The yams right, the sweet potatoes right, but I see
marshmallows on him. Sometimes it's a popular choice.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Okay, So if we had a consensus list, it would
probably be stuffing one, mashed potatoes two, and we have
to pick.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I can sacrifice cranberry sauce if we want to just
throw the green bean casserole on there.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Okay, No, I'm gonna put cranberry. I'm gonna agree with
your list in total because cranberry sauce. I still think
it's a side to the sides, but I also think
it's indispensable. Like I would not like it if I
didn't have the cranberry sauce to eat, Whereas if you
remove the green bean cast role, like I said, I
like seeing it, but I wouldn't mis eating it.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, I got you on that, and I like with me,
I'm more of cranberry sauce is more than just the
side to the side to me, Like I'll get like
two big things of the jello like circles on my
plate and just scoop those down, So that is more
of a side traditionally to me.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, we'll be.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Talking about this with Charlie when he joins the show
at four, because I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
In a vacuum, he's Friday, so he'll be the recap Friday. Yeah,
he's the thing. He can recaps. Right now, I forgot.
I'm already.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I'm actually putting way more effort into this show than
I thought I but I didn't, you know, because it
feels like Friday. That's why I said we'll talk to
Charlie later. We will, just just a couple of days later.
But now in a vacuum, which is a phrase I
use way too much. If it wasn't Thanksgiving, I could
pick three items. Mac and cheese would be third, like
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sausage mac and cheese or uh, oh my god, lobster
mac and cheese. Had that buffalo chicken mac and cheese.
Oh okay, there's some place where do I go? Is it?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Poor Riches and Wexford wife had someplace?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But I don't eat mac. I mean, I'm tired of
talking about food I can't eat. Now I'm getting pissed.
We even did this segment.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Now, gravy, are you a smother of the entire plate
full of gravy, the turkey, the stuff and the potatoes.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Everything gets hit with it. Or do you pick your
spots not smother, But there's gravy on everything. The potatoes
especially got to do like the reservoir of gravy.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Without question, the spoon indentation on top too deep, not
too deep. I don't smother any of it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And I do like I said, I will take a
slice of turkey and put cranberry sauce on it, or
eat the turkey with the mouthful of cranberry sauce.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, you like the Such a great thing about a
Thanksgiving Day plate is that when that food touches each other,
it all works right. Like if you get a scoop
of stuffing with a little bit of mashed potatoes on it,
and oh there's some cranberry sauce on there too, it
goes in your mouth and it all just plays together
so beautifully. That's why there's so many subs, right that
just have all of the ingredients just thrown onto a
piece of bread and you can eat it.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, Like it's just such a good compliment.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
The leftovers, leftovers for the plate of turkey, stuffing and
mass potatoes with cranberry such.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's the basic.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
But what about turkey and stuffing in a sandwich like
the Pilgrim only made it home with Like Ross Geller
said on Friends, remember his famous Thanksgiving sandwich? It had
a little bit of gravy. I think he called it
a sealer. I forget what did what did he call?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Fan? Never watched it? If you ever had insomny, you'd
be a Friends fan. I watched that stuff all nights
on all the time.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, oh I did, I remember, I said on the
show one time, between TBS and Nicked Knight both, there's
two Nicked Knights, Nicked Knight, Niked Knight two. You could
watch the entire run of Friends inside of a week
if the episodes hit right.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
That's how Yeah. Yeah, but now how about dessert? Where
do you weigh in on dessert?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Big pumpkin pie guy, I mean, that's at the top
of the list for me. Is it still acceptable to
have like a pumpkin roll? Is it a little late
in the season for that? No, I think it's acceptable.
Pumpkin roll is pretty good too, But I go pipe pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But pumpkin pie first. Pumpkin rolls in there I got
for where I'm going. Uh a ho ho roll? Now
they were in the refrigerator here, you saw them? Did
you take one?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I didn't take one. Now you took one, though, Yeah,
I took one.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's basically a hostess ho ho, like the roll up
of cream inside of cake. It doesn't have like the
like the icing though, like the would you call that crust?
What would you call that on a ho ho?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The icing?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Oh, I know what you mean. Like the crust, the
chocolate crust on the outside of the cake.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Is that fund on? Is that the correct term for that?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
The cream on the inside is a little different, I
think on these homemade ho hos, right, Like, it's not
exactly like that icing that you have in a hoo.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's more like a whip cream, isn't it, Like I think?
So yeah, it looks really good. Yeah. So, and then
you're gonna tell people you made it yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yes, And and you also have to have whipped cream
on everything. Okay, ice cream is overkill at Thanksgiving? You
think I'm okay with pie.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well, I'm okay with alamode pie.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's pump If it's apple pie, that's my sleeper Here's
what I have for dessert, because I'm bringing the dessert
the ho ho roll, pumpkin pie, Dutch apple pie with
the crumbs on top.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, that's huge. No chocolate pie, you fan of chocolate pie,
No I am, but none for this time. I make
a pecan pie as well.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, I'm not a huge pecan pie guy. I'm not
a huge apple pie guy, to be honest with you.
Pumpkin pie in this case pumpkin And then I like
cookies out on the table too, right, just something you know,
like maybe some sugar cookies overkill.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Here is the ross Geller turkey sand which he called
it the moistmaker. That's what I was thinking of. Three
slices of bread. The middle slice is soaked in gravy.
That's the moistmaker. Uh, leftover turkey stuffing, mayonnaise optional.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
What is optional?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So like he's talking about, like you take a piece
of bread and you dip it, you submerge it.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
The way we call it, you take like a knife
and spread you spread it on so it's thoroughly.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I was thinking you just soak it in it, No,
then it would drip. It's the moistmaker.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I didn't see the sandwich because one of his coworkers
stole it out of the refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Ross went crazy, Classic friends trope.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Now, one thing real quick. Did your neighbor have a
Turkey Bowl football game? And was a touch or tackle?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah? We played tackle football.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I probably played all the way, played all the way
through high school, maybe a little bit in.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
College, but yeah, I did a little bit into college.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, no doubt the tackle football for sure. But once
you get to that point in college, Mark, You're just like,
I can't play tackle anymore, right, Like it's over.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I forget that.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
We kept time. I think we just kept playing until
we decided it would rather drink beer.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Either that or you just like picked like first one
to you know, ten touchdowns or something like that.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Now we had one, because every playground football game is
going to.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Be all passing, right, No, yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
But we had one. This is my most memorable Turkey
Bowl one year. This was in Reserve Tounship. This was
at Reserve Field where the Great School was and is.
We sometimes played him with this smaller field cal the
little field, but this was a big turnout. We had
this one kid, Eddie Basic, who was stocking tough, and
he was on my team. Our game plans would just
keep handing him the ball like no passing it, all,
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handing him the ball because tackling him was painful, and
he loved it, and he busted up the other team.
I don't know whether he was like Jim Brown of
Reserve Township or Godzilla through Tokyo. It was just like
I remember somebody watching the game where it was a
grower of it called it disgusting. So we just kept
doing it and we won. And at the end, because
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this was clearly my idea, nobody else would be super genius,
right exactly, the other team threw me in interception because
they were all going to tackle me. I just batted
it dom as they get nice, try get that. We
crap out of here, and they should have hit me anyway,
you know what I mean, because the ball was right there,
but I confused him, or to be fair, that did
show a degree of being pusillanimous on my part.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Whatever, But the game was won. He won the game.
That's all that matters.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
You should should treated you too, like the ref and
the remake of the Longest Yards Alan Covert character, when
Adam Sandler just drills him in the nuts a couple
of times.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well, in the interest of being pucillanimous, I played pretty
far off the line, what oh five ninety x
This is the Mark Mann Show. Don't come down, don't
make me try. Follow me on Twitter at mark man X.
The Athletics says the Steelers have an eighteen percent chance
to make the playoffs, but they could. They could even
win a playoff game because the NFL is so random.
But the Steelers have no foundation for excellence, no plan
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for excellence. They would rather be steady than successful. It's
a bad outlook. It's horrific management. It's poor roster assembly,
it's rotten coaching. It's a flawed roster with a myriad
of holes. It's high priced bozos who don't produce on
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a level with their paychecks.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's an antiquated approach.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And the Steelers might be six and five, but it
feels like rock bottom in terms of potential. The Penguins
those buffalo tonight. The Penguins have a plan. Don't know
how long it's gonna take. Coivenon back in the lineup,
Russ is ready to go. Kendall's going to be a scratch,
not because of bad plague, that's because of their playing
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for him as an eighteen year old rookie, and Tristan
Jari will be in the net.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Looks like morishall is going to go back down.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We got Robbie Merchant the River Hans at four point
thirty to celebrate the Hands winning the USL Championship. By
the way, it's River Hans Night tonight at the Penguin
Game Pit hosts Miami for a big game Saturday, which
I don't intend on talking about at all between now
and then, but if they lose. If they lose, I'll
bury him on Monday, because that's the way this show operates.
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And with the Steelers and Pirates, I mean, what do
you say, nothing ever changes. Give the Steelers credit. They
brought in one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time
and nothing changed. It's still stale. Now that is consistency.
Let's talk to Tommy Radio. Tom This all feels like
(02:05):
regurgitation with the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Don't it.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, it feels like the same movie that we've been
watching over and over and over again from them, and
there is really no hope for change. You brought up
eighteen percent chance to make the playoffs. That seems pretty
spot on to me. To be honest with you, I
think what ten wins probably gets you in comfortably nine wins.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You're really starting to sweat some tie breakers.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I think this year ten you're a lock is not
a lock, but I think ken like ninety percent kitch in.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I think nine to eight tenkots.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You that's four more wins. They got to scrounge up
Miami at Cleveland Shore. You gotta steal one of the
Baltimore games and steal one against Buffalo and Detroit.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
They always play good against Baltimore tome they got except
for those last two games.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
How did those go well?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And that's why the Ravens went from three and a
half games back in Week six to tide with the
Steelers now, because the Steelers got their number, and we
know they're gonna be Baltimore not once, but twice. There's
a one hundred and forty one and two thirty percent
chance of that. No, it's like dumbness one oh one.
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What the Steelers do, It doesn't work, so they keep
doing it. The Steelers are one hundred percent sold on
a method that won't ever work.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Enough, Like do they think that if they just keep
doing this over and over again and stay stubborn in
their way, that the pendulum will eventually swing back to them?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Like they will swing the NFL back to this lag.
They can will the NFL back to the sentience in.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Acquiescing to their style, that their power which they don't have,
that their physicality which they don't have, that their old
school mentality which they betray every chance they get that
at some point that will pay off.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, they really do believe that.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's so foolish when the league itself is trying to
get that kind of out, that style out of the game.
Like they want offense, they want less physicality, you know,
no more hitting like you used to be able to.
Everything is geared towards offensive football in that league. To
be a team that is so gung ho on defense misguided.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
We keep dreaming about getting the right quarterback in the draft,
as I just spoke about. But A they won't draft
the right quarterback. B might not even draft the quarterback. See,
if they do get the right guy, this years will
fail him with development, weaponry, and scheme. Indeed, maybe that
quarterback refuses to come to Pittsburgh. He should refuse. Pittsburgh
(04:29):
is death badly for quarterbacks. If I was near edge quarterback,
I'd pull on Eli Manning with San Diego and force
my way out, Well.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
There's just no way that they would be in a
position to draft you know, like I can't miss, doesn't
really need any you know, guidance prospect like a Joe
Burrow type that just would take any franchise to good heights.
They're never going to be picking number one overall to
do that. So then it comes down to getting a
player that you can find around like the tenth pick,
eleventh pick, and maximizing their potential. There's nothing that tells
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you this current coaching staff could ever maximize the potential
out of a quarter that.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
All you have to say about Tom when not knowing
what he's doing with quarterbacks is Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, and that was a Tom win Pike. He insisted
on Pickett.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
He said, we got our guy, and then Kenny Pickett,
I mean they failed him, but not as much.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
As as he feels failed them. He's awful. I mean,
look what's happened since he's awful. Kenny Pickett is that
pit guy. Sucks it. He's terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I had many sucks. He's terrible in the pros. Kenny
Pickett was the one that is definitely at the top
of that list. But there's other examples when you look
at all the other free agents that they went after.
I mean, Mitch Trubisky was a miss. Uh justin Fields
I think was a bit of a miss till.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Nobody ever blamed the Steelers or Tom went for that.
They blamed the guy the quarterback he failed. Yeah, yeah,
it just it just makes me puke poke like that
pu goad when the year ends, if he retires, I
just hope Aaron Rodgers will own up to how he
really feels about his time here, because that's potentially a
big headline. As I've said repeatedly, I don't think he's
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gotten it all what he bargained for. I don't think
the situation is anything like it was sold to him
that it was going to be. By the way a
Bucco note. Ken Rosenthal wrote at The Athletic that if
there is a cap with a floor and teams have
to spend a flour of over one hundred million in payroll,
that that's the one thing that might make Nuttings sell
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the team him and the Marlins owner. Rosenthal said that
they might not, how he put it, they might not
survive as owners if there was a salary floor. And
I heard the B team talking about that, saying how
great that would be? Yeah, until he sells the team
to Nashville. Because Nutting has done everything you can so
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far as Pirates owner to make the most money. So
if he sells the team, it will be to the
highest bidder. And ain't nobody in Pittsburgh Pittsburgh connected what
Mark Cuban my Penis wants to laugh? Ain't nobody going
to keep that team in Pittsburgh if Nutting decides to
sell it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Five ninety x.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Peng was hosting Buffalo tonight, third game in a row
at home. Penguins look over their first win in that
run of home games. You can watch the game at
Columbus with me Friday at seven pm at Dino's in Latrobe.
And if the boys want to fight, you better let them.
Penguins need to win tonight. Can't lose a third straight
at home. Buffalo not a great roster, but has won
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fur out of five. Tage Thompson has scored goals in
six straight games. Going to be a tough night. Let's
not talk to Tom Offerman. Tom, how can the Penguins
right this ship? I thought they did a lot good
in that loss to Seattle on Saturday the ot loss,
but as coach Dan Muse noted, it was a loss.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I hate to make it sound a simple, but they
just need to fill the net more. I mean, they
just need to capitalize on their opportunities. They're only averaging
one point eight goals over these past five games that
they've played in. They were shut out in one of
those games to the Minnesota while to start this homestand
so you know, I think they're getting decent opportunities, the
generating good chances. I mean, Mark, they massively outplayed the
(08:04):
Kracking in that overtime period, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
On Saturday the question News noted, you still got to
finish exactly. And that goes for five on five too.
Like Clevenan's back in the lineup after being injured, I
need him to score. Kendall scratch tonight, which I get
with his development being eighteen, but I need him to
get on the sheet a bit more. Although he does
have five goals, that's pretty good return for an eighteen
year old rookie bros. I'm assuming he's playing the young
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guys just add energy, but they need add goals too.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, the depth needs to start scoring. Malkin and said
both scored the goals against the Krack and they aren't
a problem. And I mean Sid's line. I feel like
there's something missing there though, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I mean was playing there for Heck's sake, and secondary
scoring is tough to generate per se. We're going to
talk to Todler Kennedy and he was secondary scoring back
when he played for the nine Cup champions and that era,
so we'll see what he has to say.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Uh again, I don't know where that comes from.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Kindle the kids, Like I said, Kindle run in tonight
COVID and I hope Hayes doer.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now it's still the number one power play at thirty two,
but you need better five one five, And even with
the power play, I'm seeing cracks. And this is a
Penguins tradition with the man advantaged tom the better it does,
the more they complicate, and the more they manufacture their
own demise.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And I mean, you can't deny Kendall's effect to that
power play and how he has helped it become one
the best in the NHL to this point. Won't have
them tonight on the power play, and I worry moving
forward when Raquel comes back.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You've noted this. They'll put Kindle on power play too,
so Rakel can slide back to the first You know,
I want to hear jump some power play one tonight
with Kendle Lott. Who do you think that's a good question.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't know who they would use it instead of
Kendle because Russ Well rust is on it, but he
was sick for the past.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Couple of days, but looks he says he's should be back. Yeah,
like may I might put there go to defenseman. Yeah,
put la tangle on the left half wall. Why not, right, Carlson,
I hate to say, you know it's not bad in
the power play.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Is Hayes just plug him right in front of the net? Well,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean he's best on the on the right half wall,
but I mean that Sid geno rotation. Yeah, I mean,
I say my instinct would be to go with theftang.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Now, one good thing is I don't believe Sid's going
to decelerate. His problem could be line mateson Is Malcin
really is keeping up despite not having great line mates
five on five and a factor with Malkul and maybe
just some small degree.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Sid is muse limiting their ice.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Sid's averaging nineteen minutes a game Malkin eighteen and that's
still a lot, but it's not what they had been
playing under Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, And I think said, you know, if he was
playing you know, twenty one twenty two minutes a game,
he'd be fine. But I think that's having a massive
effect on Gino. I mean, less is more, I think.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
And then when when they go to the Olympics, even
though it's a travesty that rush is not in it,
Gino gets you know, that time off and comes really
that much more physically enter.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Judge for the stretch run.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, think about how hot he was at
the start of the season, right, that could be duplicated
come the end of the Olympics, come the beginning of March,
when you're trying to make that final playoff push, which
the Penguins are going to be just stuck in the
mud there, right, like they're gonna be in that soupy
wild card race, bottom of the metro race for this
entire season.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But if they can't get in like third in the
division and like build a cushion there, it'd be better
if they fell apart and got I still am holding
out hope for that top five pick if they don't
make the playoffs. Like we've talked about worst case scenarios,
and frankly with every day I fear that coming true.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
More that they missed the playoffs. But get a mushy
middle pick.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know, there are only four points out of being
in a top five or a top five pick slot
a bottom five team like that's.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Not out of the But when when you get down,
like you said late, and there's a billion teams in
that race, it's not so much about how many points
your back, it's how many teams you have to jump over.
Buffalo worries me tonight. One team is hot. The Penguins
are in a funk. Buffalo's got young defenseman doll in
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power and byram they're tough to pin in. I guess
my advice would be just don't go to overtime, because
we know what happens.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Then ZH and five in overtime this year, yeah, and
shoots ot and shootouts.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Maybe there's an element of the Penguins canna cool the
Sabers down a little bit. They have won two straight games,
and I think it's like four out of the last
six or even better than that. So yeah, they're they're
coming in hot. And I mean it's a team that
just at some point, the Sabers, you'd think would be
a competitive entity, right, they're stacking so many big picks
and good prospects for ever ever. But like you know
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what I'm saying, like at some point you have to
turn the corner almost accidentally.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
At some point it also gets in your DNA. There
are plenty of teams that never turn a corner accidentally
because it's in their DNA, like Toronto and they're bad
this year because the injuries, because they didn't know they
lost their best player in Mitch Marner until he was
already gone. But they won't win the Cup maybe ever,
because they just again in their DNA. Bruni is in
Wilkes for conditioning and I get that, and then probably
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Team Canada for the World Juniors and I get.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That, but I bet he's rattled.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I mean, you know, getting scratched moving here, there, everywhere,
you know, destination at this point unknown until he gets
officially named a Team Canada for the Juniors. It's gotta
be rough on him. I think he's made of sterner
stuff than to let him bother him.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But still, and also you think he just wants to
play too, right, like he just as a young kid,
like I know, he wants to be on the NHL
ice like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I mean, I think he's probably welcoming this conditioning trip
to Wilkes, But if it came down to waiting it
out at the NHL level and going back to juniors,
I mean, don't forget there's a money different, there's a
luxury difference, but I would think the hockey difference at
his age.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Will be the primary motivator.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And it's cliche to say, but I think you'd learn
more here at practice than he would playing down there
now world juniors, that's a way different story.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's gonna be so good for him, I hope.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And I think the Penguins are thinking like you are,
that he's getting more value out of practice time up
here than he would in juniors, because why wouldn't they
have just pulled the trigger with this.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
And I also think I also, I mean, I know
they hope that he can regroup and be a factor
at this level, but they'll see how it plays out
at Wilkes and then at World Juniors.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know, they've had some surprises anyway with Shane Weatherspoon
and the defense pairings.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So like, it's okay that Bernick's kind of struggling a
bit that that doesn't affect You're talking lefty righty there?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay? Uh up next something one oh five.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
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Speaker 2 (15:05):
Is this season?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Uh, here's a SoundBite from my interview yesterday with Mike
de Fabo of The Athletic talking about Mike Tomlin's double
talk regarding Aaron Rodgers and his injury and practicing and playing. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I'm glad you're asking me this question because it really.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Truly makes no sense what the Steelers did.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I don't know who made the call, but I don't
understand why Aaron Rodgers didn't play. So let's let's let's
start with last Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
What happened.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Mike Tomlin came out and he said Aaron Rodgers is
such a veteran quarterback he has so much experienced that
he doesn't need a lot of practice times, and he
said that Friday was going to be a really important day. Well,
Aaron Rodgers actually got out on the practice field earlier
than anticipated, did more than expected because he was out
there on Thursday, and then he took the majority of
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the first team reps on Friday. Okay, So then Sunday comes,
he's inactive. They start Mason Rudolph And after the game
we asked him what was the biggest reason.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Why Aaron Rodgers did not play?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And he said the amount of practice time he had.
So the same coach that on Tuesday said he doesn't
need practice time. He's a veteran.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Why would he need.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
To practice now? The biggest reason why Aaron Rodgers didn't
play is because he didn't practice enough. But that was
Mike Tomins decision to begin with, so it doesn't make
any sense. Then I asked him, I said, well, what's
going to be different in a week? Why is he
Why right now on Sunday are you able to say
he's going to be able to play in seven days.
A broken bone is a week's long injury weeks plural.
(16:48):
So the bone was broken against the Bengals, it was broken,
still broken against the Bears. It's still going to be
broken in a week. The bone is not getting any better.
And Tom's answer was because he can practice more.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
During the week.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And then today during his press conference he again said
that Aaron Rodgers doesn't need to practice a lot. So
to me, it makes no sense. I don't understand, like
nothing is changing other than the way the Steelers are
looking at the situation. But seven days doesn't dramatically heal
a broken bone.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
The fabos one hundred percent right. That was a great rant.
What Tomlin said is contradictory and nonsensical. It's double talk.
It's what a con man does. Hey, I've been saying
Tomlin is a fraud for years and would have been
fired years ago anywhere else. Colin Coward said that we
got that sound a little bit later to repeat Mike
(17:46):
Tomlin is a con man. He's a grifter. How much
proof do you need? And people are starting to figure
it out, actually nationally more than locally. Too many stooges
under the tent locally, by the way, an update from
Steelers practice, They're not very deep in but no sign yet.
Of Aaron Rodgers, Mason Rudolph, and Will Howard are out
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there doing the quarterback work. We're going to have our
Thanksgiving food round up with Tom's trifect in just a moment.
The pregame show brought to us play our buddy Shandorovitch,
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football players, alumni, nil types, the power brokers. They want
to keep the interim coach Terry Smith in charge because
he's a Penn State lifer. They've won a couple of games.
They beat Nebraska convencently thirty seven to ten, and I
get it, he's a good guy, but he's never been
(18:53):
a head coach at the college level, never ever been
a head coach at the college level.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
His turn at Penn State.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I don't have the same kind of faith in Terry
Smith that I did when Tom Bradley was supposed to
succeed Joe Paterno.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Before that all went sideways.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
But I just don't think that's a good move if
they keep Terry Smith. And that's the problem with firing
a coach in mid season. Some people like that at
the college level because you get a head start on
re establishing the program and next season's recruiting. But the
interim guy can, like in this case, I don't think
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even do very good. But somehow Terry Smith's still getting
a bunch of support to get the job. And it
wouldn't shot me if Penn State keeps him because he
beat Nebraska. That's the only reason. Heck, he's two and
three as the head coach in succeeding James Franklin, and
Penn State will regret firing Franklin for decades to come.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
They did a ton of damage to that program.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But who give us a rats ass about that when
we can talk about Thanksgiving food.
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Speaker 2 (20:56):
Is your wife cook my wife phone cooking this next
she does cook off for Thanksgiving? Who cooks? Mother in law?
And then mom? I get two dinners. Two dinners. That's solid.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Now your trifecta is as everybody hopes to hear and
I do too.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Thanksgiving sides correct. These are the three best sides according
to me.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Number three mashed potatoes, always reliable, big old helping of
mashed potatoes. Number two, I'm going cranberry sauce, but the
jello kind that you get out of the can, none
of that homemade crap with real cranberries in it. Number one,
it's got to be stuffing. It's the undisputed champ. It
is the essence of Thanksgiving. And my two of my
one mark those are really the ones that are unique
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to Thanksgiving, right Like you have a turkey sandwich elsewhere
in the year, you have mashed potatoes with steak, you know,
in a June night or something like that. But you
don't get the cranberry sauce or the stuffing unless it's
Thanksgiving Christmas.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Two. Really, I don't really do stuffing on thanks On Christmas.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I do, okay, and I love stuffing, and it is
a proper number one choice here, but I only do
it twice a year, Thanksgiving a Christmas. Although there was
a period growing up there used to be something called
stovetop stuffing. Yes, and it wasn't great, but it wasn't bad,
and that would become in our house growing up, an
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easy side for my grandmother to make or my mom to.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Make, no doubt. I mean, it's still a thing you
can still get. It's easy as hell. It's like a
pack of you know, the bread crumbs. Throw a stick
of butter in there with some water and it's good
to go.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I want to break down stuffing a bit more, though,
because basic stuffing is the best. It's better if it's
inside the bird, that's better. Taste Almost any kind is fine.
My favorite variable is sausage stuffing, and I've even had
cheriso stuffing, you know, hot Mexican sausage but you're right,
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sausage is by far a runaway winter Now I would
put cranberry.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Sauce on my list, and here's why.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh No, to me, it's a side to the side,
like I put it on turkey a little bit, okay,
or oh, I have a mouthful of stuffing a mouthful
of cranberry sauce, okay, so I like it. To me,
it's a side to the side. I like the homemade
stuff better than out of the can. Uh Like gravy
to me is roughly in the same boat as cranberry sauce.
(23:11):
So I would round out my top three. And by
the way, desserts are separate. We'll get to that a
little bit. I guess I would say mashed potatoes grudgingly
because I'm not the biggest fan with the wake in
one eighty. I'm I'm picking my poison. I'm with stuffing
as the exception and not massed potatoes. And here's why
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I rank mashed potatoes clearly below stuffing. And by the way,
it has to be homemade mashed potatoes, yes, okay, actually
mashed potato.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Do you like seeing a little bit of the skins
in there? No? No, you don't like that, do a
better job. Well's purpose sometimes who do a better job?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
No, No, I have had mashed potatoes that are like
that that aren't bad, but not for Thanksgiving. So if
you're cooking out there, get get the skin out, get
skin out of the game.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I guess is how I would put it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I put mashed potatoes a distance second of stuffing, though,
because it's similar to stuffing but not as good.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Like the use of gravy.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It's almost not the same thing, but the same deployment
to use it tominism.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, and again like you will have many opportunities to
have mashed potatoes throughout the year. It is a side
that is very common. Stuffing is unique to this holiday
season alone. You gotta go with the stuffing now. My
number three is a tough choice.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I would say Brussels sprouts, but it's not indigenous necessarily Thanksgiving,
but they are underrated in general. And I also I'm
thinking green bean casserole with onion straws.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yes, but here's the thing. I don't like it. I
don't eat it.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I just feel better if it's there, Okay, comfortable with it? Yes,
just let me go off the board. Here is this
a Thanksgiving item, because if it is, I'll put it
on their head of both the green bean casserole and
the Brussels rotts.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What about Rockley and cheese castle.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, I don't know if that's exactly you know, Thanksgiving indigenous.
It sounds fantastic. I would love to eat some of that,
but I don't know if that's, you know, a staple.
I think the castrole that's the staple on every Thanksgiving
dinner table is the green being cast role.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Now, Charlie Batchel, on the podcast he does with Tree Essex,
made a compelling case for macaroni and cheese. See and
I love mac and cheese, but is it indigenous to Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
And Charlie's argument was that more and more it's becoming that.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I think I agree with Charlie on that that it's
picking up a lot of steam right now.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It is such a borderline one.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I think that it is about to cross the precipice
though of being a common thing on the table for Thanksgiving.
I don't know how I feel about it, though, Mark.
I feel like it might be a little bit of overkill.
I grew up without it, so maybe change is making
me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I think it is overkilled.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, and again I have one exception to my awakened
one of the guidelines. That will be the stuffing and desserts, unfortunately,
because I can't resist those. Yeah, but how just lose
it back? I went to Liverpool, gained four pounds, lost
it back. You gotta you gotta gotta know when to
pick your spot. Sorry, awaken one eighty, But but you've
helped me lose. I think it's thirty four thirty four
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pounds and that's an under two months now.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You can't eat these, but I think a good dinner
roll too is very key. Okay, let me let me
you're right.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Roles are aren't necessary, yes, brand, because you've got you
need them to soak up whatever without question, whether it's.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Gravy, whatever's left on the plate. You used the roll,
soap it end of the role. Yeah. Now what would
you rather have though, rolls or biscuits. I do love
me some biscuits.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Here's the thing, though, in a vacuum, I'd rather have biscuits.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
On Thanksgiving that rolls are better for the soaking on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I think I agree with that. On Thanksgiving. The other
thing I like to do with a role. You know
those little like square butters that you get on Thanksgiving
that are out on the table.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
You just cut it open, but the little butter pats.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I cut it open like pac Man the Role and
just put the butter pat right in the middle of it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I feel that that's too crappy restauranty. I love it. Well,
some have taste. Some dun't corn.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Big corn guy on the table, just like a see
more peas peas that's not indigenous vegetable though now here's
something is indigenous we've not mentioned, but it's not on
my list, not even close, because I don't like them.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yams and sweet potatoes, agreed. I don't like them either,
but they are such a staple. I mean some people
have them. Probably if they were making their trifecta, that
would be people's number one.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I bet you know who made great yams special recipe
Kitty Foreman on that seventy Grand Foreman always looked forward
to the yams.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
But I forget who, probably Eric.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Maybe it was uh, maybe it was the daughter that
like bang Kelso and ruined Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I forget what it is getting marshmallows on them right
like a little no well, no, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
If you want marshmallows, feel free, because I'm not going
to eat them either way.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
The yams right, the sweet potatoes right, but I see
marshmallows on him. Sometimes it's a popular choice.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Okay, So if we had a consensus list, it would
probably be stuffing one, mashed potatoes two, and we have
to pick.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I can sacrifice cranberry sauce if we want to just
throw the green bean casserole on there.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Okay, No, I'm gonna put cranberry. I'm gonna agree with
your list in total because cranberry sauce. I still think
it's a side to the sides, but I also think
it's indispensable. Like I would not like it if I
didn't have the cranberry sauce to eat, Whereas if you
remove the green bean cast role, like I said, I
like seeing it, but I wouldn't mis eating it.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, I got you on that, and I like with me,
I'm more of cranberry sauce is more than just the
side to the side to me, Like I'll get like
two big things of the jello like circles on my
plate and just scoop those down, So that is more
of a side traditionally to me.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, we'll be.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Talking about this with Charlie when he joins the show
at four, because I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
In a vacuum, he's Friday, so he'll be the recap Friday. Yeah,
he's the thing. He can recaps. Right now, I forgot.
I'm already.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I'm actually putting way more effort into this show than
I thought I but I didn't, you know, because it
feels like Friday. That's why I said we'll talk to
Charlie later. We will, just just a couple of days later.
But now in a vacuum, which is a phrase I
use way too much. If it wasn't Thanksgiving, I could
pick three items. Mac and cheese would be third, like
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sausage mac and cheese or uh, oh my god, lobster
mac and cheese. Had that buffalo chicken mac and cheese.
Oh okay, there's some place where do I go? Is it?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Poor Riches and Wexford wife had someplace?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But I don't eat mac. I mean, I'm tired of
talking about food I can't eat. Now I'm getting pissed.
We even did this segment.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Now, gravy, are you a smother of the entire plate
full of gravy, the turkey, the stuff and the potatoes.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Everything gets hit with it. Or do you pick your
spots not smother, But there's gravy on everything. The potatoes
especially got to do like the reservoir of gravy.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Without question, the spoon indentation on top too deep, not
too deep. I don't smother any of it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And I do like I said, I will take a
slice of turkey and put cranberry sauce on it, or
eat the turkey with the mouthful of cranberry sauce.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, you like the Such a great thing about a
Thanksgiving Day plate is that when that food touches each other,
it all works right. Like if you get a scoop
of stuffing with a little bit of mashed potatoes on it,
and oh there's some cranberry sauce on there too, it
goes in your mouth and it all just plays together
so beautifully. That's why there's so many subs, right that
just have all of the ingredients just thrown onto a
piece of bread and you can eat it.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, Like it's just such a good compliment.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
The leftovers, leftovers for the plate of turkey, stuffing and
mass potatoes with cranberry such.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's the basic.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
But what about turkey and stuffing in a sandwich like
the Pilgrim only made it home with Like Ross Geller
said on Friends, remember his famous Thanksgiving sandwich? It had
a little bit of gravy. I think he called it
a sealer. I forget what did what did he call?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Fan? Never watched it? If you ever had insomny, you'd
be a Friends fan. I watched that stuff all nights
on all the time.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, oh I did, I remember, I said on the
show one time, between TBS and Nicked Knight both, there's
two Nicked Knights, Nicked Knight, Niked Knight two. You could
watch the entire run of Friends inside of a week
if the episodes hit right.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
That's how Yeah. Yeah, but now how about dessert? Where
do you weigh in on dessert?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Big pumpkin pie guy, I mean, that's at the top
of the list for me. Is it still acceptable to
have like a pumpkin roll? Is it a little late
in the season for that? No, I think it's acceptable.
Pumpkin roll is pretty good too, But I go pipe pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But pumpkin pie first. Pumpkin rolls in there I got
for where I'm going. Uh a ho ho roll? Now
they were in the refrigerator here, you saw them? Did
you take one?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I didn't take one. Now you took one, though, Yeah,
I took one.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's basically a hostess ho ho, like the roll up
of cream inside of cake. It doesn't have like the
like the icing though, like the would you call that crust?
What would you call that on a ho ho?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The icing?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Oh, I know what you mean. Like the crust, the
chocolate crust on the outside of the cake.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Is that fund on? Is that the correct term for that?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
The cream on the inside is a little different, I
think on these homemade ho hos, right, Like, it's not
exactly like that icing that you have in a hoo.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's more like a whip cream, isn't it, Like I think?
So yeah, it looks really good. Yeah. So, and then
you're gonna tell people you made it yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yes, And and you also have to have whipped cream
on everything. Okay, ice cream is overkill at Thanksgiving? You
think I'm okay with pie.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well, I'm okay with alamode pie.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's pump If it's apple pie, that's my sleeper Here's
what I have for dessert, because I'm bringing the dessert
the ho ho roll, pumpkin pie, Dutch apple pie with
the crumbs on top.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, that's huge. No chocolate pie, you fan of chocolate pie,
No I am, but none for this time. I make
a pecan pie as well.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, I'm not a huge pecan pie guy. I'm not
a huge apple pie guy, to be honest with you.
Pumpkin pie in this case pumpkin And then I like
cookies out on the table too, right, just something you know,
like maybe some sugar cookies overkill.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Here is the ross Geller turkey sand which he called
it the moistmaker. That's what I was thinking of. Three
slices of bread. The middle slice is soaked in gravy.
That's the moistmaker. Uh, leftover turkey stuffing, mayonnaise optional.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
What is optional?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So like he's talking about, like you take a piece
of bread and you dip it, you submerge it.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
The way we call it, you take like a knife
and spread you spread it on so it's thoroughly.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I was thinking you just soak it in it, No,
then it would drip. It's the moistmaker.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I didn't see the sandwich because one of his coworkers
stole it out of the refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Ross went crazy, Classic friends trope.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Now, one thing real quick. Did your neighbor have a
Turkey Bowl football game? And was a touch or tackle?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah? We played tackle football.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I probably played all the way, played all the way
through high school, maybe a little bit in.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
College, but yeah, I did a little bit into college.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, no doubt the tackle football for sure. But once
you get to that point in college, Mark, You're just like,
I can't play tackle anymore, right, Like it's over.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I forget that.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
We kept time. I think we just kept playing until
we decided it would rather drink beer.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Either that or you just like picked like first one
to you know, ten touchdowns or something like that.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Now we had one, because every playground football game is
going to.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Be all passing, right, No, yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
But we had one. This is my most memorable Turkey
Bowl one year. This was in Reserve Tounship. This was
at Reserve Field where the Great School was and is.
We sometimes played him with this smaller field cal the
little field, but this was a big turnout. We had
this one kid, Eddie Basic, who was stocking tough, and
he was on my team. Our game plans would just
keep handing him the ball like no passing it, all,
(34:15):
handing him the ball because tackling him was painful, and
he loved it, and he busted up the other team.
I don't know whether he was like Jim Brown of
Reserve Township or Godzilla through Tokyo. It was just like
I remember somebody watching the game where it was a
grower of it called it disgusting. So we just kept
doing it and we won. And at the end, because
(34:35):
this was clearly my idea, nobody else would be super genius,
right exactly, the other team threw me in interception because
they were all going to tackle me. I just batted
it dom as they get nice, try get that. We
crap out of here, and they should have hit me anyway,
you know what I mean, because the ball was right there,
but I confused him, or to be fair, that did
show a degree of being pusillanimous on my part.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Whatever, But the game was won. He won the game.
That's all that matters.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
You should should treated you too, like the ref and
the remake of the Longest Yards Alan Covert character, when
Adam Sandler just drills him in the nuts a couple
of times.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well, in the interest of being pucillanimous, I played pretty
far off the line, what oh five ninety x
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