December 10, 2025 • 38 mins
Mark and Tommy Radio talk about the Penguins blowing a lead and in terrible fashion last night. They talk some Buccos and a bit of Steelers as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, well, well, the Baltimore Orioles signed the New York
Mets free agent slugger Pee Alonso, the first baseman. Baltimore
signed Peede Alonzo to a five year deal or one
hundred and fifty five million. It just broke that the
Pirates offered four years one hundred and twenty four million,
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which is the same average annual value as Baltimore gave Alonzo.
Of course, I'm lying, just like everybody lied when they
said that the Pirates offered Schwarbur the same average annual
value with.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The bid that mysteriously went up.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
After Schwarber had already signed with Philadelphia. But I want
to talk hockey. I want to spew Penguin ancs, because
the Penguins just keep blowing leads, and last night, in
more cataclysmic fashion than ever before. That was just a
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disastrous loss for the Penguins, the kind that can lead
to a lot bad in both the short and long run.
If the Penguins missed the playoffs by a point, You'll
remember last night's shootout lost to Anaheim. I don't know
why both offensive defensemen are out there at the end
holding a one goal lead. Carlson and Latang and it's
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a righty, righty defense pair, which Muses tried to stay
away from. He's always gone lefty, righty. I don't know
why both buston Latang whiffed on. Dude, go into the net,
break the guy's arm with a slash, take a penalty.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
The clock's about to run out.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I don't know why Carlson is diving toward the
net in that situation. He was begging for an own goal.
And that's exactly what happened. It was just a brutal sequence,
a total breakdown. To lose that lead with point one
second left after what just happened to Dallas, It's just
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an utter disaster.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It was insane.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You had a draw in Anaheim's end and a power
play with eighteen seconds left. You won the draw and
still lost the game. The puck was behind their goal
line with nine seconds left.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You had the wrong guys out there.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And then you had a power play in overtime and
couldn't score, and then you lost the shootout, just like
you always lose the shootout.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
OH and five and shootouts this year oh and nine.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Dating back to last year, the Penguin shooters went oh
for three in the shootout, Novak got a chance, Coven
got a chance.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Both missed obviously.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Sid went did the same move as always and missed
that exact same cause I moved. Everybody knows is coming.
It's the same every time and shutoffs. Was one for
two last night in goal in the shootout, and now
he's allowed eight goals on ten shots in shootouts this year,
and you just can't leave him in there for shootouts.
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He's impossibly bad. And I don't care about protocol, I
don't care about feelings. I don't care about the so
called injury risk of bringing the other goalie in cold,
which is nonsense. Athletes come into games cold all the time.
Goalies come in cold when the starting goalie gets hurt.
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And by the way, yeah, I know Jari is no
bonus in shootouts himself, but he isn't worse than shilloffs.
You can't leave shitloffs in there to lose every shootout
because right now it feels like these loser points in shootouts,
rather the points lost, will keep the Penguins out of
the playoffs. It feels like you need to get a
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shootout specialist to shoot, like Eric Christensen was back when
U see Okinant and get a better shootout goalie.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
To be the backup every night.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like like this sounds ridiculous, but if you can get
a really good shootout goalie, you'll need more shopping the minors.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
That's fine, get like some shootouts specially. I don't know
who that could be.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't know who's out there, but just have him
be the backup d Jari or Shotoffs, whoever starts the
game and then he goes in for the shootout, and
whoever don't start. Between Jari and Shotoffs, they sit in
the press box because it's come to that when your
goalie can't stop.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Anything in a shootout.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's come to that when you've lost your last nine
shootouts in a row.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It was just absolutely insane. Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That is my Penguin's rant, because last night was so
unfortunately interesting. They out played Dallas on Sunday and out
played Anaheim last night, both games with a gino. It
was mostly Yeoman's duty, and they came away with a
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couple of loser points. And it's funny in the regard
that if they had won one game and lost the
other both in regulation and had the same two points
you'd probably feel better about it, right if you had
played it at the same level, you know, like they
did in both games. But for heck's sake, to blow
that like they blew it is just depressing. This is
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Speaker 2 (05:40):
They got your back, not your wallet.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I heard the Pirates might get one of these Japanese
import players. Maybe if you can't figure out the conversion
from dollars to yen, none can lowball them and throw
in some war reparations. And of course Pittsburgh's big Japanese
community would be an attraction to a Japanese import player. Uh.
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I heard the Pirates offered a Swarber went up some
more since yesterday, since after he signed with Philadelphia. One
thing to understand about the way I talk about the Pirates.
I loved them as a kid and loved them for years.
I went all the time. I went forty one times
in nineteen seventy one, the year they won the World Series,
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beat Baltimore Clemente MVP in the series. And since then
they've just ruined it. They've killed off my love for them.
I didn't change. They did. They betrayed Pittsburgh. So when
all you jackasses out, they're all you pirate marks. And
this goes especially for the local stooge media. When you
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dismissed me as a pirate hater, I am exactly the
opposite of that. I want better, I demand better, and
I'm smart. I know this is absolutely a con. I
worked in wrestling fright years. I know what that feels like.
It looks like it's an absolute con.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And here's a legit bucco question. What if they talk all.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
These yang about spending more and they just don't, and
maybe because nobody wants to come here with free agents.
But you can add payroll through trades and improve the
team through trades. That's the Bucco's best bet. But Ketl
Marte already said no with his no trade clause. And
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it's impossible to improve this team enough in one season anyway,
one offseason, it really is. It's impossible. They have zero
legit middle of the lineup hitters. They're not gonna go
out and get three. The only way they could do
that is if they spent like twenty five million dollars
a hitter per year on three hitters, and they coordinated
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so each was putting pen to paper at the same time,
so they would believe that the Pirates are going to
try to win, and we all know that absolutely is
not gonna happen. They have one legitimate middle of the
lineup at that's the password. I say that in the
spirit of cock eyed optimism. And they signed this guy, Soto,
this Matt reliever from the Mads and the usual suspects.
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I'll talk about this at length later, but the Bucco
stooge media, the Pirate fans, this is a really good get.
He's a really good fit in the bullpen. This upgrades
the team significantly. Yeah, it feels like seventy two wins
to me. Oh no, wait, they got Soto, Okay, seventy
one because he'll blow more saves. I mean, this guy
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hasn't had an ERA under four since twenty twenty two.
He made the All Star Game as a closer for
Detroit two years. In one of those years he lost
eleven games. That's a lot of blown saves. It is
just such a bunch of crap, and you're too dumb
to get it. I got a great bite later. Swagu
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Marcus Spears says we should pray for Philip Rivers. I
pray that he gets in the game against Seattle, and
that the Seahawks defense, which is pretty good, lights him
up like a downtown Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Please, Dear God, do that for me with the Seattle defense.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Kill your servant Philip Rivers right there on the field,
because if he's that stupid to play, he's stoopid enough
to get what he deserves it anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know how you know God.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Don't care about football because God betrayed Notre Dame when
they didn't make the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Where is your God? Now, Priest one five nine X,
listen to the X everywhere you go, now everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Tell your sport device Alexa play one on five point
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Speaker 2 (09:52):
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Speaker 1 (09:54):
You can win a drip for four people that come
to iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Aldree X.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Love Mamby Andy just tweeted that the Power should have
overpaid to get Pete Alonzo. You could offer Pee Alonzo
double what Baltimore did, which was five years of buck
fifty five. Well maybe not double, but you could offer
Alonzo like, I don't know, seven years two hundred mil,
seven years two thirty. Anyone come to Pittsburgh. Pomp said,
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make him an offer he can't refuse. I think he'd
rather have his brain splattered all over that contract to
put pen to that paper, which is an outstanding godfather
one reference. Let's talk Penguins after that horrible defeat last
night here now, Tommy Radio, tom what a terrible loss.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I still can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I can't recall a loss quite like that for the
Penguins now.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's so deflating, and you do worry about the team
moving forward. They need to beat the Canadians tomorrow, and
they beat need to beat the Sharks on Saturday too.
Get two wins right there in a row to kind
of flush this out of your system.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But I do. And the Dallas loss too, I mean
that's true. That was a little more honorable.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Because because Dallas is a better team, it's on the road.
But they played him and left it lay in late,
blew it, then lost the shootout exactly same shooting game loss,
all of those shootouts in a row. Nine losses consecutively
in the shootout. That's almost as discouraging as the way
they blew the game last night.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, and if they don't flush it quickly. I'm going
to be even more discouraged and I am going to
be worried all year that we're going to be on
that cut line and it's gonna be one point. That's
the difference. And there's that point, one second that you
couldn't defend longer against Anaheim. There's your ticket to the
playoffs that have operated in December.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I just don't get Carlson diving toward the net. Doing
anything else there would have been better. It just begged
for an own goal, which is what happened.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Do you get anything that was going on in that sequence,
including the coaching and putting Carlson in the tang out
there together.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Didn't get the line up at the end, didn't get
righty righty, didn't get the two offensive guys, didn't get
why Tommy Novak was out there.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Even Sid he.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Won the draw, but then Carlson put it right behind
the net and the puck was below.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
The goal one with nine seconds left.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But what Sid needs to do there is try to
win the draw forward and follow the puck to the
boards and trap it there.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Like when Carlson put it back in. The Ducks got
the puck you don't want to let them have the
puck up.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's possible Carlson would have been better served after Sid
won the draw, skating back toward.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
His own end.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, and then when Seneca is just dancing through, was
it rust and let's hang tackle him? Do anything I
said earlier today, Just do whatever you can to stop him.
It's point one seconds left or at that point it
would have been like two seconds left, but either way,
just slow him down by any means necessary. Everything was
a disaster on that play. But yeah, your original point,
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Carlson diving back to the net. Good lord man.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Blowing so many leads. It's like they're afraid to success.
It happened so often, and it's like they see it coming.
I want to talk about the shootout a bit, because Sid,
being a creature of habit, kills him in the shootout.
It serves him well and open play, nobody's better coloring
inside the lines over two hundred feet, but but doing
the same move in the shootout all the time, it's death.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It's almost like this pathological with Sid.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, everybody knows it now too, right, Like goalies from
other teams know, like he Sid shoots all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And he does this one move, so look out for them.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, sometimes it's blocker, sometimes it's club, but it's off
the same move.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know that the move is going to be before
he decides where he's gonna shoot.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You know he's not going backhand, right. I can't remember
the last time he went back in.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
How wild is that for one of the best backhand
players ever.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I can't remember the last time he came in with
speed either, But that's a thing in shootouts.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
A lot of guys don't come with speed. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So I like seeing Novak and I like seeing coyven
in out there. You just got you had to go
all the way in there, right, go all the way
in And how tell said you're not going in the shootout,
And that's gonna be an uncomfortable moment.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
He's not gonna like it. It's not gonna happen, don't
think so. Don't think it will do that. But it's
the right thing to do, right. Not not only that,
I think when Gino's back he'll shoot, He'll go right
back into it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think so. But I think the one muse would
never tell he can't go in the shootout is sit Well.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
What sucks to is that novaker cooivin and couldn't put
one in last night too. You know what I mean,
when you go with the kids, get rewarded right away,
so you're encouraged to go with them again.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
No, not exactly a kid, but I know what you mean.
You know it's funny because even the good stuff last
night turned into a mixed bag. I thought the kid
line was great and their metrics were through the charts,
but you got to score. I mean they're getting no points.
They're having good games, good shifts, but you got a score.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, it's time for that now, right, Like it was
okay when we first saw this kid line was in Philly.
Was the debut of the kid Line, right, it was
mcgroarty's first game of the season, and we were like, wow,
this is a great line. A drove play didn't show
up on the scoreesheet, but that's okay, it'll come.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Now, it's what three or four games into this now,
and none of them have scored, so you gotta find
the net.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
None of them have scored through the Kid Line, I
should say. Now, get back to the shootout. Do you
agree that you can't leave shiloffs in there? For the shootout.
I mean, I'm not sure Jaari's much better, but Shiloffs
is the worst shootout goalie I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, And I feel like a lot of people are
kind of feeling that a consent basis right, Like I
feel like a lot of people on couches last night,
are in that arena last night, were saying when they
went to the shootout, go to Jari, you have to
do it. But that's just it's such a faux pas
in the NHL to know it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I don't think many people are.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I really, I know, I know my media brethren, like
when I talked about it last night, bitching, you know,
in the press room afterwards night.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
He can't do that, can't do really do that, can't
put him in cold, he might get hurt. Can't do that.
I thought it was so obvious last night. I think
the fans are like that too. Can't do that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
And again, Jarry's not great at to shoot out either,
but he did stop two out of three Stars shots
in the shootout on Sunday, So I'll go back to him.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And the cold thing, they get hurt, you throw the
backup goalie in cold. He stinks gives up five goals.
Jar's coming cold what two times in the past two
weeks because of she lost.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It just got to be some shootout wizard in goal
in the minor leagues for that matter, a shooter somewhere
that you could make the last guy on the roster,
the fourth line winger, like at Kristensen, Well Christians it
was a better player than that, as was us Jokin
And but you get my drift. But if there's some
shootout wizard in goal in the miners, i'd pay him
then HL minimum to be the back up every night.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, desperate times, right, And I think you're probably more
likely to find the shooter specialist somewhere in the ranks
right in.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
The NHL or somewhere like that. At any rate, I
don't think that's in the cards. I don't think they
would do that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's like I said, it's a faux pas. Like it's
just it's considered blasphemous to do that at the NHL level.
A lot of it has to do with hurting these
guys feelings too, right, Like you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Have the case of the goaltender.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Absolutely, that's stuff about how the goalie coming in cold
is risking injuries.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That excuse me.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Quarterbacks come in cold, goalies come in cold during games.
When when the starter gets hurt, it's excuse making. It's
sparing the guy's feelings. That's the only thing that's about
is the protocol of how you're treating your starting goalie
and f that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Like no offense.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
But who is Archer? She loves to demand the respect
that he gets to play. He's in the league exactly,
so it was long ago that he wasn't. So you
should say, Okay, great, Jarry's got the shootouts. I'm glad
we got us to a shootout if I had to
battle to get us there. Now, Jari take us home.
It's a team game after all. Yeah, But but it
sucks that Jarry isn't that great. But yeah, not that great.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You alluded to this earlier Tom the Montreal game at
home Thursday. That's big. You can't go into a tailspin
on the back of that loss last night.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, I mean, I would prefer to just rip off
six points here and win against Montreal and then take
out and y'all, of course, but you know what I'm
saying as far as what has been happening, like right
the ship quickly. If you go to overtime against Montreal,
or god forbid, drop both points against Montreal, I think
we have an oppor or we have a chance to
see this season start to spiral a little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
The Anna's Attendants last night at PPG was a fifteen thousand,
one sixty five, but I'm assuming that's tickets sold because
there were entire sections empty and that sucks. That's an
indictment of Pittsburgh as a hockey ton and new roobs
out there because the Penguins are playing very well and
attendance is still not great.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, and it came across on the TV feed last
night too, like you could see the empty patches in
the crowd.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And you know what, there are these idiots out there
who say, well, they priced us out, they priced me out.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You go on stub Hub last night a couple hours
before the game, you were.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Not priced out. The get in price was like twenty bucks.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Tons of secondary market apps too, because like you know,
StubHub has gotten a little crazy with fees. Sometimes there's
other secondary market apps that have come in now to
try to undercut that, and they have minimal fees.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So you can get in the building if you really
want to get in the build. Would you trust those sites? Yeah?
Why not?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I trust the sub hub for all those years. Stub
Hub's really proven though these are proven too. I got
burnsweed by one of those sites.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Really. Yeah, you might not get your ticket dot com
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Speaker 5 (18:32):
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Speaker 2 (18:37):
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Speaker 2 (18:48):
AM one O five nine DX. It's happening again with
the pirates.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
They lied about the offer to nailor probably lied about
the offer to Schwarber, because it magically went up after
Schwarber had already signed with Philadelphia, went up to the
same average annual value, because that way they could say
we tried, but we just missed. And now right on cue,
the media students are hyping this Gregory Soto guy, the
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lefty relief pitcher they just signed from the Mets. Oh
he's legit. Oh he's a great fit. You go fanboys,
beat him bucks. Soto's ERI last year was four point
one eight the year before that, it was five point
zero nine. In seven seasons, his era has been under
four just twice, and the last time was twenty twenty two.
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The Pirates only paid seven point seventy five million for him.
But he's just not some low budget secret sauce that's
going to come in in over cheap big time. He's
a typical Pirate bummy git that's being overhyped by their
stooge media.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Case closed.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And also there's some bs out there about them trading
with Tampa for Brandon Load. The second baseman hit thirty
one home runs last year, makes eleven point five mil.
But he's a free agent after next season. So would
you get him as a rental? Would you try to
sign him long term, you know, as you traded for him,
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or are you just talking about a name so people
can say, oh, we might get him, tob Were you
excited about the Soto signing? Oh?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, I'm ecstatic by the Soto signing. Even if Sodo
was a great relief pitcher, Mark, it's really hard to
get super excited about our relief.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
They need bats. If they need bats, that's what they need.
I don't care about the backend. I mean I do.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
It's important, but that's not going to move the needle
for me this offseason. You need to go get some
big league bats to supplement your pitching rotation. And you're
already pretty strong bullpen and Soto stinks on top of
it like you just laid out. So it's not like
I can even get excited about a shutdown guy coming
into the back.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He was once the closer for Detroit, but I bet
Santana is going to be the closer.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, SODA's the setup guy.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Maybe there's a lefty righty vibe going there, but either way,
it's low rant and slow budget. To me, it's a
typical pirate get and it's right on the heels of that
horseman or with the bid being inflated after the fact
for Kyle Schwarber.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, and last year Soto was on a bummy Baltimore team,
gets traded to the Mets midseason and sucked even worse
when he got thrown into a pennant race. He'd like
a four point five ORA in the second half of
last season. So he's coming off of one of his
worst half of a season that he's had in a
long time. He's he's clearly well past his prime. It's
amazing how minimal people will get excited. The students will
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get excited over a bullpen piece like this. And you said,
seven point seven million is not that much. You're right,
It really isn't that much in the grand scheme of baseball.
But that's an overpay for some bum like this. Use
that money elsewhere, Use it on a bat.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
If the Pirates get nobody of consequence in the offseason,
what will the fan reaction be Because promises have been made.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I think the fan reaction will then pivot towards optimism
around the password, optimism around Connor Griffin. When his call
up will be will it be? You know, on opening day?
Will he make the roster? They'll have some drummed up
optimism for O'Neal, Cruz finally breaking out, Brian Reynolds having
a bounce back here, you know, the same old familiar stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But there will be optimism. I don't know, I don't know.
I think.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I think whoever's left supporting is really hardcore and wants
to believe no matter what, even at the expense of
looking foolish. But again, promises have been made about spending
more and if it doesn't happen. I don't know. I
don't know what happened. I do know the stooge media
will stay loyal.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, and now you know Mark Cabali you pointed out
his tweet yesterday saying, well, you just offered this money
to Shoorbur, right, so you're obviously gonna spend it elsehe
right now, If you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Offered Shorber one hundred and twenty million over four years,
then you have one hundred and twenty million to.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Spend over those four years. So spend it. Yeah, exactly,
but you won't.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You have to overpay players, like massively overpay them to
come here, even think about coming here.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm not even sure that, Like, yeah, it might not.
If you would have offered Schwarber, what was his average
annual value? I think it was around thirty, right, was
where it settled with the face? Yeah, yeah, because the
same with the parts.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
If you would have offered Schwarber an annual average value
of forty, I'm not sure that gets into Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
H No, I'm not sure it does either.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And the parts would not have done that anyway. And
we should not forget that these offers are made in
design of being turned down.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Yes, So if you were a serious team, you know,
why not go after somebody And this isn't a superstar,
but like a Michael Conforto who is with the Dodgers
last year. I'm looking at it right now, expected to
make about six million on salary this year average annual value.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Why not offer that guy eleven million, twelve million.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
You can overpay someone like that and they might go
I can't afford to turn down five extra million dollars,
even if it is with the bummy pirates. I mean,
there are guys out there that are projected to make seven, eight,
nine million dollars that you could overpay for, but they
won't do it because there's a risk they might say
yes at that point.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I think the big move at off seasons end will
turn out to be whoever they get for the for
Keller in that trade Sodo and the password.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And the Keller trade is going to be another password.
It'll be a twenty three to twenty four year old
prospect who you said it yesterday. They'll sell it to
us as big League ready. Yeah, so they'll have often
but always the number seven prospect in the Giants organization
or something like that. Those will be the big moves,
no doubt, and the Connor Griffin thing. I really think
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they're going to start to pin a lot of hope
on him. Maybe not opening Day, but at some point
this year he's coming up.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
If if no, i'll, i'll, I'll go one step further.
If they don't get a big get in the offseason,
he'll be in the.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Lineup on open Opening Day, and they might ruin the
number one prospect in baseball.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because of that.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think his talent is such for maybe you've heard
that he can't be ruined, but you're right. He should
only come to the majors when he's ready. But they
will feel that it is necessary pr wise that they
don't deliver any good addition in the offseason.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm sure he is extremely talented.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You don't get to be the number one overall prospect
in all of baseball without a ton of talent.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So his talent might prevail mark.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
But like as far as him reaching that absolute ceiling,
I mean, in baseball, you can get overwhelmed so early
in your career and then you'll just never get back
to the heights that.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You were promised you could get to.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
You get blown away a couple of years with those
pitches that you see, he might never get back to
that level that you were once projected at.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Tom. We even taught Pitt's playing East Carolina in what
ball the Military Bowl? The Military Bowl is that like
have a village people thing like like one guy's military
one guys that construction.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
No, I think it's in honor of the troops. Mark,
it's at Annapolis and Navy Stadium.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
See what I thought it was? Who cares bull?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Which is a nice change from the Schmuck Bowl that
they usually plan. Penn State's playing Collption and this should
have done better ball because we both thought they should.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
We think they both should have done better.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I see zero punk the bowl games now that the
playoff expanded, And aren't all these teams gonna have like
every good player that has NFL ambition refused to play.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, and I think you're gonna see players probably from
East Carolina and Pitt looking into that portal, right and
looking out for number one and probably pulling the shoot
on a.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
That's a great question. He doesn't play, That means he's
probably leaving.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
That's alarm bells up, right, because why wouldn't he just
go out there and get some reps and play if
he planned on playing for pit next year.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I'm telling a story later, Tom.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I bet you know what player this is, or maybe
I've told him before, because I forget everything I've said,
let alone on this program. But there is a pit
player who took like a million dollars of nil money
and then left the next week.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do you hear that story? I think I know who
you're talking about. He just left.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And then when they when they said to him, well,
you you know, like the don the donor the went
to him, I think to his dad and said, well
you always up money.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He goes, Oh, where's your contract?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yeah, that's the wild West that you're playing in right now.
With college sports, there's no contract, there's no pen to paper.
A lot of times with these kids.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'm not sure like whether I should say who it
is or not, but I will say this, it's my
favorite pit player of all time.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I'm nine.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's The Woody Show weekday mornings at six of course
X Music on the X Mark Man pregame show one DX.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
What are we going for the trifecta?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Tom brought to us by Danny's patron Hogies on Route
eighty eight in Bethel Park.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Think you got a fun one today?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
For the trifecta, Mark, I'm gonna go with celebrities who
were late bloomers becoming super famous.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You know what I mean, Really you were a late bloomer.
I just thought radio Type was thirty five.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Oh that's definitely qualifying as a late bloomer. Then yeah,
then exactly just like you. Uh number three for me,
I'm gonna go with Brian Cranston. Now, he broke out
big time with Breaking Bad, but would you agree that
Malcolm in the Middle was kind of where he became
a famous person.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, but I think once he broke up big and
Breaking Bad, the people backtracked to what he had done previous.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And you see Malcolm in the Middle such as Malcolm
in the Middle and Tim Whatley on side.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
No question about Tim Whatley, but that was only a
bit character in the time. It was in like three
or four episodes, So yeah, that was after the fact.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
But nonetheless Tim Watt became a thing after Brian Cranston.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Popped in forty four was how old he was on
Malcolm in the Middle, So he was even older when
he hooked up with Breaking Bats Away. Lately, Good show,
Frankie Munist solid you like Frankie Munis from Stuck on
You though, the movie with Great Kenear and Matt.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Damon in there for a cameo. He was the bed
number two for me.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I'm going to the best line from from Uh Stuck
on Us, when Share goes, oh, I treated you terribly.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I was a bitch with the capital C.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
That's a very underrated comedy. Uh number two for me,
I'm gonna go with Samuel L. Jackson didn't really break
out until pulp Fiction. He was in his mid forties
for that had some other roles that you go back to,
just like Cranston Coming to America is a super famous
one when he sticks up the restaurant mcdowe's. But he
wasn't famous back then again backtracking, yeah, exactly. So he
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really breaks out with pulp fiction.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
He was so good in Pulp Fiction. Now, that's a
great movie. It is one of the bad is. That's
probably Tarantino's best. I think I would land others. I
rewatch more like Bastards. But in terms of the best
movie Tarantito made, it's got to be.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I think it is probably his number one. But Samuel Jackson.
Now he's like the biggest star on earth, or one
of them. Like he's in almost every freaking movie.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And he just did Tulsa King. He had a guest
appearance in Tulsa King. He was in it for half
the episode.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
He was probably so great. Number one for me, though,
I'll go with Rodney Dangerfield. He was forty six years
old when he really started to hit it on the
talk show circuits as a comedian, and then, of course
Caddy Shack was his breakout role as far as movies
are concerned. He was fifty nine when they filmed Caddy Shack.
And I always loved the story about how Rodney tried
to get into comedy early in life failed started selling
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aluminum siding for like ten years just to support his family,
and then he finally got back into it again.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You know, Caddy Shack was Rodney's first movie, and he
just didn't understand how to be directed. Like if you
read one of the various Caddyshack books, Whenever whenever the
director would say action, John I think.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Was John landis is that right? So yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Whenever he would say action, Rodney would just stand, there
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
No Ramis was Caddyshack. Oh okay, okay, but but wait,
that's what we're talking about. Sorry, I was thinking Animal
House for a second house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Ramis did direct Caddyshack, and he would go action and
Dangerfield would just freeze and he would say, oh, like,
do my bit, and he would go, yeah, do your bit,
and then after a while Ramis would just say, Rodney,
do your bit. But he's such an if you watched
that movie like and know what to look for Dangerfield.
Aside from when he's talking whatever the the other characters
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are talking, he shuts down and just has this wide
eyed stare like everything going on around him is insane,
which actually fit the movie.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I also heard a story from that from filming where
he thought he was doing terrible, Like they would film
his bits and he'd do his stuff and he'd come
after they'd you know, rap, and he'd be like, I'm
drowing out here. No one's laughing, and they were like, Rodney,
it's a movie set, Like, we can't laugh. It'll get
we can't. It's picked up on the microphone.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Right. I thought he was dying out there.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Right, and uh, you know, the only person on the
set that wasn't doing copious amounts of cocaine?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Was Ted Knight? Right? He hated making that movie, right.
I hope the dinner didn't he shouldn't. It was great, Well, it.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Was great after the fact, but I think the process
he didn't like it very much. Very unprofessional set, I think.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And Dangerfield was the regular Hoover knows and he was
how old then even you know, fifty nine?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
He's fifty nine years old and doing like I said,
tons of blog that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
The uh the uh Trifector Brook was by Danny's Peach
and Hogies, Pittsburgh's original oven baked togy since nineteen sixty. Tom,
we have some news about the NFL Draft, which is
of course going to be in Pittsburgh this April.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, the first round has been shortened play.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Our teams will only have eight minutes instead of ten
minutes now to select a player.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Isn't that great? That'll change everything? Two less minutes per pick?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
See, I would have it so you have ninety seconds
to select the player, and if you don't, you lose
the pick, and if like another team cackles you on
the way to the podium, that cons against the time.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I think that's great. Both of those ideas are great.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
We need to add more stakes to this because it's
it's got a little too boring. Honestly, go out, you
read a name off a name card, and then you're done.
Let's let's steal picks. Stealing picks should definitely be a
part of this.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You know, I've been looking at some mock drafts and
I don't know why. Actually, okay, I do know why,
because I had heard what I'm about to say is true,
and I feel embarrassed to say that for any reason.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I've been looking at mock drafts.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But you know how all these great quarterbacks were supposed
to go in the first round, right, and the Steelers
were going to get one of those. Do you know
now that some mock drafts have only one or two
quarterbacks projected first round?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, the Indiana ones like the only consensus one, right,
Fernando Mendez is like the only one that everybody pretty
much thinks is the first round pick.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I have no idea or Drew Allers sucked and got hurt.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Gut hurt, arch is coming back, like that's we know
that for sure, not for sure, but I feel like
that's why some.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Who insisted if he goes into the draft, he will
go first overall just based on being Arch managed.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Our football guru thinks he should go first overall this year.
Matt Williamson, if he were to enter the draft, thinks
the talent is just enormous, but he's going.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
To go back to Texas.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I would never say Matt Williamson is just absolutely insane,
not not loud. No, you know what, though, He's probably right,
but Arch probably would go first overall for the wrong reasons,
just because he's Arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I don't know what happened to some of the other candidates,
though it was just a miss as far as the
preseason evaluation was for some of these quarterbacks. Mark, I
don't think we can ignore the fact that when these
players get three, four or five million dollars in college,
now that motivation just might leave them. They they made
it then at that point, right like why do I
need to go to the NFL? Why do I need
to really pour everything?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
He's on the kids mental make up.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Of course, ambition, because you know some kids like just
to make the NFL as everything.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Of course, of course, but I'm saying it opens it
up more so for that to maybe happen.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I think I think there are some kids, like kids
who were brought up poor, who just the minute they
get the money, they've accomplished the goal and what they
got it from nil or get it in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It doesn't matter. The money was the Yes, he was
the ambition period. It's a great goal to accomplish too.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
You pick your family up that way and they're going
to be able to But I'm just saying, I wonder
if you know, maybe a quarterback gets five million, gets
a little comfortable now all of a sudden, doesn't wish
to become even better and go to the NFL and excel.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Uh here's a question God to bring up for the
opening monologue next hour. But I want your opinion, Tom,
who would be the Steelers MVP right now?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
It'd be Rogers? Right.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
You kind of just default into him because he has
won some games with some moxie, some guyle as you
like to say.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
What about on the defensive side of the ball? Oh,
that's really tough.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Would you go with Jalen Ramsey especially making that shift
to safety and kind of help.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
He's been mostly invisible for a number of weeks now and.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
That's the thing, Mark, why did we trade Mega Fitzpatrick
Because he was doing just okay right, keeping the lid
on everything. He wasn't making the splash at that safety spot.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
I mean, I have Jalen Ramsey doing the exact same
thing that Minca was probably a little bit worse than
Minca too. Mico was probably a slightly better safety still
at this point than Ramsey is.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But yeah, there's no splash.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Man.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I don't know Herbig was making a good push early
in the season, but he's faded lately, right, Like, where's
the curly plays.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Of anybody on defense?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And by the way, I'm totally blowing up my monologue
open then hour Alex Heismith. He's had more good games
on defense than anybody, but he's also been hurt off.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's hurt all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You can't say somebody like James Pierre is the MVP,
but he is probably the most overachieving member of that defense.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
The Pirates are gonna sign anybody.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I'm I'm kind of starting to root for them to
not right, like to see almost like the bit play out,
to have them almost do a troll job of the
fan base in the offseason. And almost get this guy,
almost get that guy, and literally signing nobody. Your big
pieces on opening day are Griffin in the password. I
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think that there's a definite, realistic possibility that we could
see that with the Pirates, especially because they're just wasting
time with the Schwarber sweepstakes. Go get the confordos, like
I said earlier, get the guys that you could actually
maybe sign by overpaying.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Now here's a tweet from a pitching analytics guy who
might as well be under the tent with the with
the local pirate stooges.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
The Pirates are actually trying this year, it seems. Don't
let the er a fool you.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Soda limits hard contact with elite stuff as well as anyone.
His walk rate also took a big step forward the mets.
He's said to become a high leverage weapon in Pittsburgh
right away.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Don't let the era fool you.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
So this metric that has been used forever to tell
how good a pitcher is like the baseline metric for them,
just don't ignore that.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I mean, this is one of those you know, Twitter
concert websites that just says everybody's good. Because now with
all the advanced stats, you can find a stat to
say that somebody's good.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, right, Like he's great when he throws a fastball
in a two to one count against a hitter. So
like you amplify that and say, oh, look at that
rate that he has on this pitch. It's going to
be great. The Pirates can get the most out of that.
Era still matters. And guess what, all the players, like
the skemes Is of the world that have great eras
their advanced stats are great too.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Like it translates that way.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Matt Clement on the B team, he said, this is
a great pickup. I'd rather Matt Clement pitching right now.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
He was good.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Gregory Soto is a great pickup. I mean, they're really
gonna boast Joxtnixon. Shut up, Tom, don't even try to
be sarcastic. Let me let me throw this out.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I'm serious, He's a great pick No, I'm asking why
is that something that they're saying, How is that really
a take that someone's gonna have that this is something
that you should be proud of.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You let me bounce it off you like this, Let's
say Gregory Soto is everything he could possibly be let's
say is the ra's I don't know, three point five, okay,
and he is among the top ten setup men in
the league.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And that's the best case scenario. Would't you agree? Yes?
How much will that affect their one loss? Very minimally?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
They might in fact lose more games next year even
despite that, because they had that this year, they had
solid pitching and a good bullpen.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It got them nowhere.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Why would it a good bullpen and solid pitching get
them further this coming season when they add nothing to
the lineup except for the password.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I agree, but you know, I don't hate being, you know,
thought of as this hater. I think I'm a truther,
But Tom, I like. I talked to Noahiles last night
at the Pealicam and I like, no he's a good writer,
but he's a fan of the Pirates.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Mack. He's a fan of the Pirates.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Everybody who covers the team is a fan of the Pirates,
and I just think it's an ongoing criminal enterprise and
should be covered as such.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I'm a fan of the Pirates too, but don't you
think that part of fandom is being a little adversarial
towards the team?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That you're a fan of, Well, you should be adversarial
if you're in the media. If you're in the media,
of no doubt, I've.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Always been adversarial with the Penguins, even though it's the
team I've supported since I was a boy.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
You can adversarial with Liverpool sometimes if there's stuff that
you don't like that they're doing.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You're a fan of that team and you want them
to succeed.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
If you think they're getting in their own way of succeeding,
you call them out as a fan.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
You don't just fan the way. I'm not having to
criticize five nine x
Well, well, well, the Baltimore Orioles signed the New York
Mets free agent slugger Pee Alonso, the first baseman. Baltimore
signed Peede Alonzo to a five year deal or one
hundred and fifty five million. It just broke that the
Pirates offered four years one hundred and twenty four million,
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which is the same average annual value as Baltimore gave Alonzo.
Of course, I'm lying, just like everybody lied when they
said that the Pirates offered Schwarbur the same average annual
value with.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The bid that mysteriously went up.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
After Schwarber had already signed with Philadelphia. But I want
to talk hockey. I want to spew Penguin ancs, because
the Penguins just keep blowing leads, and last night, in
more cataclysmic fashion than ever before. That was just a
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disastrous loss for the Penguins, the kind that can lead
to a lot bad in both the short and long run.
If the Penguins missed the playoffs by a point, You'll
remember last night's shootout lost to Anaheim. I don't know
why both offensive defensemen are out there at the end
holding a one goal lead. Carlson and Latang and it's
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a righty, righty defense pair, which Muses tried to stay
away from. He's always gone lefty, righty. I don't know
why both buston Latang whiffed on. Dude, go into the net,
break the guy's arm with a slash, take a penalty.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
The clock's about to run out.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I don't know why Carlson is diving toward the
net in that situation. He was begging for an own goal.
And that's exactly what happened. It was just a brutal sequence,
a total breakdown. To lose that lead with point one
second left after what just happened to Dallas, It's just
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an utter disaster.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It was insane.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You had a draw in Anaheim's end and a power
play with eighteen seconds left. You won the draw and
still lost the game. The puck was behind their goal
line with nine seconds left.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You had the wrong guys out there.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And then you had a power play in overtime and
couldn't score, and then you lost the shootout, just like
you always lose the shootout.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
OH and five and shootouts this year oh and nine.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Dating back to last year, the Penguin shooters went oh
for three in the shootout, Novak got a chance, Coven
got a chance.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Both missed obviously.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Sid went did the same move as always and missed
that exact same cause I moved. Everybody knows is coming.
It's the same every time and shutoffs. Was one for
two last night in goal in the shootout, and now
he's allowed eight goals on ten shots in shootouts this year,
and you just can't leave him in there for shootouts.
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He's impossibly bad. And I don't care about protocol, I
don't care about feelings. I don't care about the so
called injury risk of bringing the other goalie in cold,
which is nonsense. Athletes come into games cold all the time.
Goalies come in cold when the starting goalie gets hurt.
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And by the way, yeah, I know Jari is no
bonus in shootouts himself, but he isn't worse than shilloffs.
You can't leave shitloffs in there to lose every shootout
because right now it feels like these loser points in shootouts,
rather the points lost, will keep the Penguins out of
the playoffs. It feels like you need to get a
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shootout specialist to shoot, like Eric Christensen was back when
U see Okinant and get a better shootout goalie.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
To be the backup every night.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like like this sounds ridiculous, but if you can get
a really good shootout goalie, you'll need more shopping the minors.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
That's fine, get like some shootouts specially. I don't know
who that could be.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't know who's out there, but just have him
be the backup d Jari or Shotoffs, whoever starts the
game and then he goes in for the shootout, and
whoever don't start. Between Jari and Shotoffs, they sit in
the press box because it's come to that when your
goalie can't stop.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Anything in a shootout.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's come to that when you've lost your last nine
shootouts in a row.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It was just absolutely insane. Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That is my Penguin's rant, because last night was so
unfortunately interesting. They out played Dallas on Sunday and out
played Anaheim last night, both games with a gino. It
was mostly Yeoman's duty, and they came away with a
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couple of loser points. And it's funny in the regard
that if they had won one game and lost the
other both in regulation and had the same two points
you'd probably feel better about it, right if you had
played it at the same level, you know, like they
did in both games. But for heck's sake, to blow
that like they blew it is just depressing. This is
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the Mark Mann Show. First Dollar brought to us by
the personal injury expert Senderovid Sandroovich and Fishmen.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
They got your back, not your wallet.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I heard the Pirates might get one of these Japanese
import players. Maybe if you can't figure out the conversion
from dollars to yen, none can lowball them and throw
in some war reparations. And of course Pittsburgh's big Japanese
community would be an attraction to a Japanese import player. Uh.
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I heard the Pirates offered a Swarber went up some
more since yesterday, since after he signed with Philadelphia. One
thing to understand about the way I talk about the Pirates.
I loved them as a kid and loved them for years.
I went all the time. I went forty one times
in nineteen seventy one, the year they won the World Series,
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beat Baltimore Clemente MVP in the series. And since then
they've just ruined it. They've killed off my love for them.
I didn't change. They did. They betrayed Pittsburgh. So when
all you jackasses out, they're all you pirate marks. And
this goes especially for the local stooge media. When you
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dismissed me as a pirate hater, I am exactly the
opposite of that. I want better, I demand better, and
I'm smart. I know this is absolutely a con. I
worked in wrestling fright years. I know what that feels like.
It looks like it's an absolute con.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And here's a legit bucco question. What if they talk all.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
These yang about spending more and they just don't, and
maybe because nobody wants to come here with free agents.
But you can add payroll through trades and improve the
team through trades. That's the Bucco's best bet. But Ketl
Marte already said no with his no trade clause. And
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it's impossible to improve this team enough in one season anyway,
one offseason, it really is. It's impossible. They have zero
legit middle of the lineup hitters. They're not gonna go
out and get three. The only way they could do
that is if they spent like twenty five million dollars
a hitter per year on three hitters, and they coordinated
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so each was putting pen to paper at the same time,
so they would believe that the Pirates are going to
try to win, and we all know that absolutely is
not gonna happen. They have one legitimate middle of the
lineup at that's the password. I say that in the
spirit of cock eyed optimism. And they signed this guy, Soto,
this Matt reliever from the Mads and the usual suspects.
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I'll talk about this at length later, but the Bucco
stooge media, the Pirate fans, this is a really good get.
He's a really good fit in the bullpen. This upgrades
the team significantly. Yeah, it feels like seventy two wins
to me. Oh no, wait, they got Soto, Okay, seventy
one because he'll blow more saves. I mean, this guy
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hasn't had an ERA under four since twenty twenty two.
He made the All Star Game as a closer for
Detroit two years. In one of those years he lost
eleven games. That's a lot of blown saves. It is
just such a bunch of crap, and you're too dumb
to get it. I got a great bite later. Swagu
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Marcus Spears says we should pray for Philip Rivers. I
pray that he gets in the game against Seattle, and
that the Seahawks defense, which is pretty good, lights him
up like a downtown Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Please, Dear God, do that for me with the Seattle defense.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Kill your servant Philip Rivers right there on the field,
because if he's that stupid to play, he's stoopid enough
to get what he deserves it anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know how you know God.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Don't care about football because God betrayed Notre Dame when
they didn't make the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Where is your God? Now, Priest one five nine X,
listen to the X everywhere you go, now everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Tell your sport device Alexa play one on five point
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Speaker 2 (09:52):
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Speaker 1 (09:54):
You can win a drip for four people that come
to iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Aldree X.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Love Mamby Andy just tweeted that the Power should have
overpaid to get Pete Alonzo. You could offer Pee Alonzo
double what Baltimore did, which was five years of buck
fifty five. Well maybe not double, but you could offer
Alonzo like, I don't know, seven years two hundred mil,
seven years two thirty. Anyone come to Pittsburgh. Pomp said,
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make him an offer he can't refuse. I think he'd
rather have his brain splattered all over that contract to
put pen to that paper, which is an outstanding godfather
one reference. Let's talk Penguins after that horrible defeat last
night here now, Tommy Radio, tom what a terrible loss.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I still can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I can't recall a loss quite like that for the
Penguins now.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's so deflating, and you do worry about the team
moving forward. They need to beat the Canadians tomorrow, and
they beat need to beat the Sharks on Saturday too.
Get two wins right there in a row to kind
of flush this out of your system.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But I do. And the Dallas loss too, I mean
that's true. That was a little more honorable.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Because because Dallas is a better team, it's on the road.
But they played him and left it lay in late,
blew it, then lost the shootout exactly same shooting game loss,
all of those shootouts in a row. Nine losses consecutively
in the shootout. That's almost as discouraging as the way
they blew the game last night.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, and if they don't flush it quickly. I'm going
to be even more discouraged and I am going to
be worried all year that we're going to be on
that cut line and it's gonna be one point. That's
the difference. And there's that point, one second that you
couldn't defend longer against Anaheim. There's your ticket to the
playoffs that have operated in December.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I just don't get Carlson diving toward the net. Doing
anything else there would have been better. It just begged
for an own goal, which is what happened.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Do you get anything that was going on in that sequence,
including the coaching and putting Carlson in the tang out
there together.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Didn't get the line up at the end, didn't get
righty righty, didn't get the two offensive guys, didn't get
why Tommy Novak was out there.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Even Sid he.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Won the draw, but then Carlson put it right behind
the net and the puck was below.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
The goal one with nine seconds left.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But what Sid needs to do there is try to
win the draw forward and follow the puck to the
boards and trap it there.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Like when Carlson put it back in. The Ducks got
the puck you don't want to let them have the
puck up.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's possible Carlson would have been better served after Sid
won the draw, skating back toward.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
His own end.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, and then when Seneca is just dancing through, was
it rust and let's hang tackle him? Do anything I
said earlier today, Just do whatever you can to stop him.
It's point one seconds left or at that point it
would have been like two seconds left, but either way,
just slow him down by any means necessary. Everything was
a disaster on that play. But yeah, your original point,
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Carlson diving back to the net. Good lord man.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Blowing so many leads. It's like they're afraid to success.
It happened so often, and it's like they see it coming.
I want to talk about the shootout a bit, because Sid,
being a creature of habit, kills him in the shootout.
It serves him well and open play, nobody's better coloring
inside the lines over two hundred feet, but but doing
the same move in the shootout all the time, it's death.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It's almost like this pathological with Sid.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, everybody knows it now too, right, Like goalies from
other teams know, like he Sid shoots all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And he does this one move, so look out for them.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, sometimes it's blocker, sometimes it's club, but it's off
the same move.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know that the move is going to be before
he decides where he's gonna shoot.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You know he's not going backhand, right. I can't remember
the last time he went back in.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
How wild is that for one of the best backhand
players ever.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I can't remember the last time he came in with
speed either, But that's a thing in shootouts.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
A lot of guys don't come with speed. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So I like seeing Novak and I like seeing coyven
in out there. You just got you had to go
all the way in there, right, go all the way
in And how tell said you're not going in the shootout,
And that's gonna be an uncomfortable moment.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
He's not gonna like it. It's not gonna happen, don't
think so. Don't think it will do that. But it's
the right thing to do, right. Not not only that,
I think when Gino's back he'll shoot, He'll go right
back into it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think so. But I think the one muse would
never tell he can't go in the shootout is sit Well.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
What sucks to is that novaker cooivin and couldn't put
one in last night too. You know what I mean,
when you go with the kids, get rewarded right away,
so you're encouraged to go with them again.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
No, not exactly a kid, but I know what you mean.
You know it's funny because even the good stuff last
night turned into a mixed bag. I thought the kid
line was great and their metrics were through the charts,
but you got to score. I mean they're getting no points.
They're having good games, good shifts, but you got a score.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, it's time for that now, right, Like it was
okay when we first saw this kid line was in Philly.
Was the debut of the kid Line, right, it was
mcgroarty's first game of the season, and we were like, wow,
this is a great line. A drove play didn't show
up on the scoreesheet, but that's okay, it'll come.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Now, it's what three or four games into this now,
and none of them have scored, so you gotta find
the net.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
None of them have scored through the Kid Line, I
should say. Now, get back to the shootout. Do you
agree that you can't leave shiloffs in there? For the shootout.
I mean, I'm not sure Jaari's much better, but Shiloffs
is the worst shootout goalie I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, And I feel like a lot of people are
kind of feeling that a consent basis right, Like I
feel like a lot of people on couches last night,
are in that arena last night, were saying when they
went to the shootout, go to Jari, you have to
do it. But that's just it's such a faux pas
in the NHL to know it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I don't think many people are.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I really, I know, I know my media brethren, like
when I talked about it last night, bitching, you know,
in the press room afterwards night.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
He can't do that, can't do really do that, can't
put him in cold, he might get hurt. Can't do that.
I thought it was so obvious last night. I think
the fans are like that too. Can't do that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
And again, Jarry's not great at to shoot out either,
but he did stop two out of three Stars shots
in the shootout on Sunday, So I'll go back to him.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And the cold thing, they get hurt, you throw the
backup goalie in cold. He stinks gives up five goals.
Jar's coming cold what two times in the past two
weeks because of she lost.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It just got to be some shootout wizard in goal
in the minor leagues for that matter, a shooter somewhere
that you could make the last guy on the roster,
the fourth line winger, like at Kristensen, Well Christians it
was a better player than that, as was us Jokin
And but you get my drift. But if there's some
shootout wizard in goal in the miners, i'd pay him
then HL minimum to be the back up every night.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, desperate times, right, And I think you're probably more
likely to find the shooter specialist somewhere in the ranks
right in.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
The NHL or somewhere like that. At any rate, I
don't think that's in the cards. I don't think they
would do that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's like I said, it's a faux pas. Like it's
just it's considered blasphemous to do that at the NHL level.
A lot of it has to do with hurting these
guys feelings too, right, Like you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Have the case of the goaltender.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Absolutely, that's stuff about how the goalie coming in cold
is risking injuries.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That excuse me.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Quarterbacks come in cold, goalies come in cold during games.
When when the starter gets hurt, it's excuse making. It's
sparing the guy's feelings. That's the only thing that's about
is the protocol of how you're treating your starting goalie
and f that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Like no offense.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
But who is Archer? She loves to demand the respect
that he gets to play. He's in the league exactly,
so it was long ago that he wasn't. So you
should say, Okay, great, Jarry's got the shootouts. I'm glad
we got us to a shootout if I had to
battle to get us there. Now, Jari take us home.
It's a team game after all. Yeah, But but it
sucks that Jarry isn't that great. But yeah, not that great.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You alluded to this earlier Tom the Montreal game at
home Thursday. That's big. You can't go into a tailspin
on the back of that loss last night.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, I mean, I would prefer to just rip off
six points here and win against Montreal and then take
out and y'all, of course, but you know what I'm
saying as far as what has been happening, like right
the ship quickly. If you go to overtime against Montreal,
or god forbid, drop both points against Montreal, I think
we have an oppor or we have a chance to
see this season start to spiral a little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
The Anna's Attendants last night at PPG was a fifteen thousand,
one sixty five, but I'm assuming that's tickets sold because
there were entire sections empty and that sucks. That's an
indictment of Pittsburgh as a hockey ton and new roobs
out there because the Penguins are playing very well and
attendance is still not great.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, and it came across on the TV feed last
night too, like you could see the empty patches in
the crowd.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And you know what, there are these idiots out there
who say, well, they priced us out, they priced me out.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You go on stub Hub last night a couple hours
before the game, you were.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Not priced out. The get in price was like twenty bucks.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Tons of secondary market apps too, because like you know,
StubHub has gotten a little crazy with fees. Sometimes there's
other secondary market apps that have come in now to
try to undercut that, and they have minimal fees.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So you can get in the building if you really
want to get in the build. Would you trust those sites? Yeah?
Why not?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I trust the sub hub for all those years. Stub
Hub's really proven though these are proven too. I got
burnsweed by one of those sites.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Really. Yeah, you might not get your ticket dot com
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Speaker 5 (18:32):
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Speaker 2 (18:37):
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Speaker 2 (18:48):
AM one O five nine DX. It's happening again with
the pirates.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
They lied about the offer to nailor probably lied about
the offer to Schwarber, because it magically went up after
Schwarber had already signed with Philadelphia, went up to the
same average annual value, because that way they could say
we tried, but we just missed. And now right on cue,
the media students are hyping this Gregory Soto guy, the
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lefty relief pitcher they just signed from the Mets. Oh
he's legit. Oh he's a great fit. You go fanboys,
beat him bucks. Soto's ERI last year was four point
one eight the year before that, it was five point
zero nine. In seven seasons, his era has been under
four just twice, and the last time was twenty twenty two.
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The Pirates only paid seven point seventy five million for him.
But he's just not some low budget secret sauce that's
going to come in in over cheap big time. He's
a typical Pirate bummy git that's being overhyped by their
stooge media.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Case closed.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And also there's some bs out there about them trading
with Tampa for Brandon Load. The second baseman hit thirty
one home runs last year, makes eleven point five mil.
But he's a free agent after next season. So would
you get him as a rental? Would you try to
sign him long term, you know, as you traded for him,
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or are you just talking about a name so people
can say, oh, we might get him, tob Were you
excited about the Soto signing? Oh?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, I'm ecstatic by the Soto signing. Even if Sodo
was a great relief pitcher, Mark, it's really hard to
get super excited about our relief.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
They need bats. If they need bats, that's what they need.
I don't care about the backend. I mean I do.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
It's important, but that's not going to move the needle
for me this offseason. You need to go get some
big league bats to supplement your pitching rotation. And you're
already pretty strong bullpen and Soto stinks on top of
it like you just laid out. So it's not like
I can even get excited about a shutdown guy coming
into the back.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He was once the closer for Detroit, but I bet
Santana is going to be the closer.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, SODA's the setup guy.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Maybe there's a lefty righty vibe going there, but either way,
it's low rant and slow budget. To me, it's a
typical pirate get and it's right on the heels of that
horseman or with the bid being inflated after the fact
for Kyle Schwarber.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, and last year Soto was on a bummy Baltimore team,
gets traded to the Mets midseason and sucked even worse
when he got thrown into a pennant race. He'd like
a four point five ORA in the second half of
last season. So he's coming off of one of his
worst half of a season that he's had in a
long time. He's he's clearly well past his prime. It's
amazing how minimal people will get excited. The students will
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get excited over a bullpen piece like this. And you said,
seven point seven million is not that much. You're right,
It really isn't that much in the grand scheme of baseball.
But that's an overpay for some bum like this. Use
that money elsewhere, Use it on a bat.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
If the Pirates get nobody of consequence in the offseason,
what will the fan reaction be Because promises have been made.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I think the fan reaction will then pivot towards optimism
around the password, optimism around Connor Griffin. When his call
up will be will it be? You know, on opening day?
Will he make the roster? They'll have some drummed up
optimism for O'Neal, Cruz finally breaking out, Brian Reynolds having
a bounce back here, you know, the same old familiar stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But there will be optimism. I don't know, I don't know.
I think.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I think whoever's left supporting is really hardcore and wants
to believe no matter what, even at the expense of
looking foolish. But again, promises have been made about spending
more and if it doesn't happen. I don't know. I
don't know what happened. I do know the stooge media
will stay loyal.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, and now you know Mark Cabali you pointed out
his tweet yesterday saying, well, you just offered this money
to Shoorbur, right, so you're obviously gonna spend it elsehe
right now, If you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Offered Shorber one hundred and twenty million over four years,
then you have one hundred and twenty million to.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Spend over those four years. So spend it. Yeah, exactly,
but you won't.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You have to overpay players, like massively overpay them to
come here, even think about coming here.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm not even sure that, Like, yeah, it might not.
If you would have offered Schwarber, what was his average
annual value? I think it was around thirty, right, was
where it settled with the face? Yeah, yeah, because the
same with the parts.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
If you would have offered Schwarber an annual average value
of forty, I'm not sure that gets into Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
H No, I'm not sure it does either.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And the parts would not have done that anyway. And
we should not forget that these offers are made in
design of being turned down.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Yes, So if you were a serious team, you know,
why not go after somebody And this isn't a superstar,
but like a Michael Conforto who is with the Dodgers
last year. I'm looking at it right now, expected to
make about six million on salary this year average annual value.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Why not offer that guy eleven million, twelve million.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
You can overpay someone like that and they might go
I can't afford to turn down five extra million dollars,
even if it is with the bummy pirates. I mean,
there are guys out there that are projected to make seven, eight,
nine million dollars that you could overpay for, but they
won't do it because there's a risk they might say
yes at that point.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I think the big move at off seasons end will
turn out to be whoever they get for the for
Keller in that trade Sodo and the password.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And the Keller trade is going to be another password.
It'll be a twenty three to twenty four year old
prospect who you said it yesterday. They'll sell it to
us as big League ready. Yeah, so they'll have often
but always the number seven prospect in the Giants organization
or something like that. Those will be the big moves,
no doubt, and the Connor Griffin thing. I really think
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they're going to start to pin a lot of hope
on him. Maybe not opening Day, but at some point
this year he's coming up.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
If if no, i'll, i'll, I'll go one step further.
If they don't get a big get in the offseason,
he'll be in the.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Lineup on open Opening Day, and they might ruin the
number one prospect in baseball.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because of that.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think his talent is such for maybe you've heard
that he can't be ruined, but you're right. He should
only come to the majors when he's ready. But they
will feel that it is necessary pr wise that they
don't deliver any good addition in the offseason.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm sure he is extremely talented.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You don't get to be the number one overall prospect
in all of baseball without a ton of talent.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So his talent might prevail mark.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
But like as far as him reaching that absolute ceiling,
I mean, in baseball, you can get overwhelmed so early
in your career and then you'll just never get back
to the heights that.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
You were promised you could get to.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
You get blown away a couple of years with those
pitches that you see, he might never get back to
that level that you were once projected at.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Tom. We even taught Pitt's playing East Carolina in what
ball the Military Bowl? The Military Bowl is that like
have a village people thing like like one guy's military
one guys that construction.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
No, I think it's in honor of the troops. Mark,
it's at Annapolis and Navy Stadium.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
See what I thought it was? Who cares bull?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Which is a nice change from the Schmuck Bowl that
they usually plan. Penn State's playing Collption and this should
have done better ball because we both thought they should.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
We think they both should have done better.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I see zero punk the bowl games now that the
playoff expanded, And aren't all these teams gonna have like
every good player that has NFL ambition refused to play.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, and I think you're gonna see players probably from
East Carolina and Pitt looking into that portal, right and
looking out for number one and probably pulling the shoot
on a.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
That's a great question. He doesn't play, That means he's
probably leaving.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
That's alarm bells up, right, because why wouldn't he just
go out there and get some reps and play if
he planned on playing for pit next year.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I'm telling a story later, Tom.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I bet you know what player this is, or maybe
I've told him before, because I forget everything I've said,
let alone on this program. But there is a pit
player who took like a million dollars of nil money
and then left the next week.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do you hear that story? I think I know who
you're talking about. He just left.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And then when they when they said to him, well,
you you know, like the don the donor the went
to him, I think to his dad and said, well
you always up money.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He goes, Oh, where's your contract?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yeah, that's the wild West that you're playing in right now.
With college sports, there's no contract, there's no pen to paper.
A lot of times with these kids.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'm not sure like whether I should say who it
is or not, but I will say this, it's my
favorite pit player of all time.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I'm nine.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
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Speaker 2 (27:15):
What are we going for the trifecta?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Tom brought to us by Danny's patron Hogies on Route
eighty eight in Bethel Park.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Think you got a fun one today?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
For the trifecta, Mark, I'm gonna go with celebrities who
were late bloomers becoming super famous.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
You know what I mean, Really you were a late bloomer.
I just thought radio Type was thirty five.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Oh that's definitely qualifying as a late bloomer. Then yeah,
then exactly just like you. Uh number three for me,
I'm gonna go with Brian Cranston. Now, he broke out
big time with Breaking Bad, but would you agree that
Malcolm in the Middle was kind of where he became
a famous person.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, but I think once he broke up big and
Breaking Bad, the people backtracked to what he had done previous.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And you see Malcolm in the Middle such as Malcolm
in the Middle and Tim Whatley on side.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
No question about Tim Whatley, but that was only a
bit character in the time. It was in like three
or four episodes, So yeah, that was after the fact.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
But nonetheless Tim Watt became a thing after Brian Cranston.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Popped in forty four was how old he was on
Malcolm in the Middle, So he was even older when
he hooked up with Breaking Bats Away. Lately, Good show,
Frankie Munist solid you like Frankie Munis from Stuck on
You though, the movie with Great Kenear and Matt.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Damon in there for a cameo. He was the bed
number two for me.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I'm going to the best line from from Uh Stuck
on Us, when Share goes, oh, I treated you terribly.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I was a bitch with the capital C.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
That's a very underrated comedy. Uh number two for me,
I'm gonna go with Samuel L. Jackson didn't really break
out until pulp Fiction. He was in his mid forties
for that had some other roles that you go back to,
just like Cranston Coming to America is a super famous
one when he sticks up the restaurant mcdowe's. But he
wasn't famous back then again backtracking, yeah, exactly. So he
(28:52):
really breaks out with pulp fiction.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
He was so good in Pulp Fiction. Now, that's a
great movie. It is one of the bad is. That's
probably Tarantino's best. I think I would land others. I
rewatch more like Bastards. But in terms of the best
movie Tarantito made, it's got to be.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I think it is probably his number one. But Samuel Jackson.
Now he's like the biggest star on earth, or one
of them. Like he's in almost every freaking movie.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And he just did Tulsa King. He had a guest
appearance in Tulsa King. He was in it for half
the episode.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
He was probably so great. Number one for me, though,
I'll go with Rodney Dangerfield. He was forty six years
old when he really started to hit it on the
talk show circuits as a comedian, and then, of course
Caddy Shack was his breakout role as far as movies
are concerned. He was fifty nine when they filmed Caddy Shack.
And I always loved the story about how Rodney tried
to get into comedy early in life failed started selling
(29:41):
aluminum siding for like ten years just to support his family,
and then he finally got back into it again.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You know, Caddy Shack was Rodney's first movie, and he
just didn't understand how to be directed. Like if you
read one of the various Caddyshack books, Whenever whenever the
director would say action, John I think.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Was John landis is that right? So yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Whenever he would say action, Rodney would just stand, there
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
No Ramis was Caddyshack. Oh okay, okay, but but wait,
that's what we're talking about. Sorry, I was thinking Animal
House for a second house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Ramis did direct Caddyshack, and he would go action and
Dangerfield would just freeze and he would say, oh, like,
do my bit, and he would go, yeah, do your bit,
and then after a while Ramis would just say, Rodney,
do your bit. But he's such an if you watched
that movie like and know what to look for Dangerfield.
Aside from when he's talking whatever the the other characters
(30:35):
are talking, he shuts down and just has this wide
eyed stare like everything going on around him is insane,
which actually fit the movie.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I also heard a story from that from filming where
he thought he was doing terrible, Like they would film
his bits and he'd do his stuff and he'd come
after they'd you know, rap, and he'd be like, I'm
drowing out here. No one's laughing, and they were like, Rodney,
it's a movie set, Like, we can't laugh. It'll get
we can't. It's picked up on the microphone.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Right. I thought he was dying out there.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Right, and uh, you know, the only person on the
set that wasn't doing copious amounts of cocaine?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Was Ted Knight? Right? He hated making that movie, right.
I hope the dinner didn't he shouldn't. It was great, Well, it.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Was great after the fact, but I think the process
he didn't like it very much. Very unprofessional set, I think.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And Dangerfield was the regular Hoover knows and he was
how old then even you know, fifty nine?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
He's fifty nine years old and doing like I said,
tons of blog that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
The uh the uh Trifector Brook was by Danny's Peach
and Hogies, Pittsburgh's original oven baked togy since nineteen sixty. Tom,
we have some news about the NFL Draft, which is
of course going to be in Pittsburgh this April.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, the first round has been shortened play.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Our teams will only have eight minutes instead of ten
minutes now to select a player.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Isn't that great? That'll change everything? Two less minutes per pick?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
See, I would have it so you have ninety seconds
to select the player, and if you don't, you lose
the pick, and if like another team cackles you on
the way to the podium, that cons against the time.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I think that's great. Both of those ideas are great.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
We need to add more stakes to this because it's
it's got a little too boring. Honestly, go out, you
read a name off a name card, and then you're done.
Let's let's steal picks. Stealing picks should definitely be a
part of this.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You know, I've been looking at some mock drafts and
I don't know why. Actually, okay, I do know why,
because I had heard what I'm about to say is true,
and I feel embarrassed to say that for any reason.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I've been looking at mock drafts.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But you know how all these great quarterbacks were supposed
to go in the first round, right, and the Steelers
were going to get one of those. Do you know
now that some mock drafts have only one or two
quarterbacks projected first round?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah, the Indiana ones like the only consensus one, right,
Fernando Mendez is like the only one that everybody pretty
much thinks is the first round pick.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I have no idea or Drew Allers sucked and got hurt.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Gut hurt, arch is coming back, like that's we know
that for sure, not for sure, but I feel like
that's why some.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Who insisted if he goes into the draft, he will
go first overall just based on being Arch managed.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Our football guru thinks he should go first overall this year.
Matt Williamson, if he were to enter the draft, thinks
the talent is just enormous, but he's going.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
To go back to Texas.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I would never say Matt Williamson is just absolutely insane,
not not loud. No, you know what, though, He's probably right,
but Arch probably would go first overall for the wrong reasons,
just because he's Arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I don't know what happened to some of the other candidates,
though it was just a miss as far as the
preseason evaluation was for some of these quarterbacks. Mark, I
don't think we can ignore the fact that when these
players get three, four or five million dollars in college,
now that motivation just might leave them. They they made
it then at that point, right like why do I
need to go to the NFL? Why do I need
to really pour everything?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
He's on the kids mental make up.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Of course, ambition, because you know some kids like just
to make the NFL as everything.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Of course, of course, but I'm saying it opens it
up more so for that to maybe happen.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I think I think there are some kids, like kids
who were brought up poor, who just the minute they
get the money, they've accomplished the goal and what they
got it from nil or get it in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It doesn't matter. The money was the Yes, he was
the ambition period. It's a great goal to accomplish too.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
You pick your family up that way and they're going
to be able to But I'm just saying, I wonder
if you know, maybe a quarterback gets five million, gets
a little comfortable now all of a sudden, doesn't wish
to become even better and go to the NFL and excel.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Uh here's a question God to bring up for the
opening monologue next hour. But I want your opinion, Tom,
who would be the Steelers MVP right now?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
It'd be Rogers? Right.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
You kind of just default into him because he has
won some games with some moxie, some guyle as you
like to say.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
What about on the defensive side of the ball? Oh,
that's really tough.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Would you go with Jalen Ramsey especially making that shift
to safety and kind of help.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
He's been mostly invisible for a number of weeks now and.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
That's the thing, Mark, why did we trade Mega Fitzpatrick
Because he was doing just okay right, keeping the lid
on everything. He wasn't making the splash at that safety spot.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
I mean, I have Jalen Ramsey doing the exact same
thing that Minca was probably a little bit worse than
Minca too. Mico was probably a slightly better safety still
at this point than Ramsey is.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But yeah, there's no splash.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Man.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I don't know Herbig was making a good push early
in the season, but he's faded lately, right, Like, where's
the curly plays.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Of anybody on defense?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And by the way, I'm totally blowing up my monologue
open then hour Alex Heismith. He's had more good games
on defense than anybody, but he's also been hurt off.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's hurt all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You can't say somebody like James Pierre is the MVP,
but he is probably the most overachieving member of that defense.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
The Pirates are gonna sign anybody.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I'm I'm kind of starting to root for them to
not right, like to see almost like the bit play out,
to have them almost do a troll job of the
fan base in the offseason. And almost get this guy,
almost get that guy, and literally signing nobody. Your big
pieces on opening day are Griffin in the password. I
(35:33):
think that there's a definite, realistic possibility that we could
see that with the Pirates, especially because they're just wasting
time with the Schwarber sweepstakes. Go get the confordos, like
I said earlier, get the guys that you could actually
maybe sign by overpaying.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Now here's a tweet from a pitching analytics guy who
might as well be under the tent with the with
the local pirate stooges.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
The Pirates are actually trying this year, it seems. Don't
let the er a fool you.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Soda limits hard contact with elite stuff as well as anyone.
His walk rate also took a big step forward the mets.
He's said to become a high leverage weapon in Pittsburgh
right away.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Don't let the era fool you.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
So this metric that has been used forever to tell
how good a pitcher is like the baseline metric for them,
just don't ignore that.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I mean, this is one of those you know, Twitter
concert websites that just says everybody's good. Because now with
all the advanced stats, you can find a stat to
say that somebody's good.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, right, Like he's great when he throws a fastball
in a two to one count against a hitter. So
like you amplify that and say, oh, look at that
rate that he has on this pitch. It's going to
be great. The Pirates can get the most out of that.
Era still matters. And guess what, all the players, like
the skemes Is of the world that have great eras
their advanced stats are great too.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Like it translates that way.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Matt Clement on the B team, he said, this is
a great pickup. I'd rather Matt Clement pitching right now.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
He was good.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Gregory Soto is a great pickup. I mean, they're really
gonna boast Joxtnixon. Shut up, Tom, don't even try to
be sarcastic. Let me let me throw this out.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I'm serious, He's a great pick No, I'm asking why
is that something that they're saying, How is that really
a take that someone's gonna have that this is something
that you should be proud of.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You let me bounce it off you like this, Let's
say Gregory Soto is everything he could possibly be let's
say is the ra's I don't know, three point five, okay,
and he is among the top ten setup men in
the league.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And that's the best case scenario. Would't you agree? Yes?
How much will that affect their one loss? Very minimally?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
They might in fact lose more games next year even
despite that, because they had that this year, they had
solid pitching and a good bullpen.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It got them nowhere.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Why would it a good bullpen and solid pitching get
them further this coming season when they add nothing to
the lineup except for the password.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I agree, but you know, I don't hate being, you know,
thought of as this hater. I think I'm a truther,
But Tom, I like. I talked to Noahiles last night
at the Pealicam and I like, no he's a good writer,
but he's a fan of the Pirates.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Mack. He's a fan of the Pirates.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Everybody who covers the team is a fan of the Pirates,
and I just think it's an ongoing criminal enterprise and
should be covered as such.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I'm a fan of the Pirates too, but don't you
think that part of fandom is being a little adversarial
towards the team?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That you're a fan of, Well, you should be adversarial
if you're in the media. If you're in the media,
of no doubt, I've.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Always been adversarial with the Penguins, even though it's the
team I've supported since I was a boy.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
You can adversarial with Liverpool sometimes if there's stuff that
you don't like that they're doing.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You're a fan of that team and you want them
to succeed.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
If you think they're getting in their own way of succeeding,
you call them out as a fan.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
You don't just fan the way. I'm not having to
criticize five nine x
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