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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now we know that there's quite a bit happening in
the last twenty four hours with three cars deliberately set
a light in Stuart Park and murder charges laid over
a fatal Darwin City stabbing. The Northern Territory Police have
now charged a twenty eight year old man following that
fatal stabbing. And joining me in the studio right now
to talk more about this is the acting Assistant Commissioner
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Matt Holland b Good morning to you, Good.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Now, Assistant Commissioner, can I ask in terms of the
charges being laid, what has this person now been charged
with the twenty eight year old Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Katie, as you're aware, there was a homicide recently in
Kevinarh Street and an offender has been arrested, twenty eight
year old man who's been charged with murder, being with
an offensive weapon and possession of cannabis as well. So
that's really good work by the detectives. It wasn't immediately
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a parent who the offender was, but they executed a
really good plan and have arrested the offender.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Do we know where that person was located?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
He was arrested at a residence in Jingly, and that
occurred yesterday and I imagine he'll be before the courts
either today or tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Have we got any idea at this point in time
whether the offender and the victim were known to each other?
And I know you've not been working on this case,
obviously major crime has. But have we got any idea
whether the offender and the victim were known to each other.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm not sure they were known to each other, but
there was some social interaction earlier in the day before
the incident occurred, so they were loosely known to each other,
but I don't know how well.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So he's obviously now facing a number of charges expected
to be in court. Some people have been critical over
recent days after there wasn't an updated an update provided
for sort of four days.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Why was that, Look, Katie, it was an investigation that
had a plan attached to it. With an investigation plan
comes a risk assessment. We were confident that there was
very little risk to the community and it was part
of the investigation strategy was to follow the investigation leads
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without compromising the evidence that was associated with it. So
in a roundabout way, it was planned that way. It
may not be what the community wants to hear, but
it was a good plan and it was executed really
well by the major crime detectives.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, I guess the concern from the community is them
wondering whether there is any risk that, to put it
really bluntly, that we've got an alleged murderer on the loose.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, absolutely, Katie, I get all of that. But again,
as I say, it was a planned investigation. There was
a risk assessment attached to it, and the investigators felt
this was the best best path and kudos to them
for executing a good plan.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
So, Assistant Commissioner, we now know that this twenty eight
year old is going to appear hot Well remains in
custody and either a peer in court today or tomorrow.
By the sounds of it, yes, that's correct. Now, overnight
there was a number of vehicles lit on fire by
the look of things at Cherry Motors. What is the latest, Yeah, Katie.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
At three forty five this morning, we received several reports
that vehicles are on fire at the car yard. The
police responded really quickly. There were three vehicles that were
destroyed by fire. It is suspicious, so if anyone has
any information, please police call the police on one, three
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to one trip or four and pass it on. There
were some traffic diversions there this morning and they will
either be just completed or about to be completed. So
in terms of rehabilitating the site, the traffic versions will
be taken out. If they haven't already been been, it'll
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be very soon.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
All right. We'll keep an eye on that, no doubt.
Our listeners will let us know as well if the
roads are reopened. Assistant Commissioner. In terms of these fires
being treated as suspicious, I guess how do you realize
so quickly that they are? You know that it looks
as though those fires have been deliberately lit. I mean
I've looked at a couple of photos and you know,
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from a real layman's perspective, it looks as though the
fuel area of those vehicles has been targeted.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah. Look, the Fire Service are our experts in fire investigations,
and you know, in the circumstances that they were lit on,
that they were caught fire, it's reasonable to suppose that
they are suspicious. So it is being investigated as an arson.
And again, if anyone has any information that they can
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share with us. Please contact the police on one three one.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And I'm assuming there's quite a few cameras around there,
like on site at that business.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, and look, that'll be part of our investigation, is
checking CCTV both at at the premises and in the area.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
All right, no doubt there'll be a bit of an
update on that. Just before I move on, though, do
we know how much damage was caused three vehicles? I
know it was sort of being reported earlier in the
morning that each of those vehicles could be up to
a value of around thirty grand.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah. Look, the initial indications we've got is thirty three
thousand dollars each. And there is a broken window to
the building. It looks like it was caused by heat.
Heat to the window that's caused it to shadow. Yeah,
but at this point in time that doesn't appear to
be any structural damage.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now, Assistant Commissioner, there seems to have been well, unfortunately,
you know, a few violent incidents in our CBD over
the last few days. We've spoken about the fatal stabbing
which occurred in the early hours of Saturday morning, but
we also were contacted by a number of valets on
Monday about a domestic violence incident in the city mir
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and Bina straight whereas I understand it, somebody has now
been charged, but a bottle thrown one woman allegedly throwing
a bottle at another woman.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, that's correct. There's a thirty five year old woman
has been arrested by Strikeforce Lyra in relation to that incident,
which we will say is a domestic violence incident. She's
currently in custody and expected she'll be charged with domestic
violence related offenses. At this point in time, it would
appear that a bottle was thrown at her. And whether
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it's shattered on the ground immediately in front of her,
which has caused injuries to her legs, or whether it's
hit her and then shouted, we're not really sure at
the stage, but she does have some injuries now.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Unfortunately, we also have seen and quite extensively reported by
the Northern Territory News, quite a big pool of blood
in the city. Do we know, like our police investigating there.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Look, it has been reported to us. I'm aware that
the presumptive test was done and it appears to be
human blood. We haven't responded to any incidents in that
area so We don't have a report of a crime
per se, and we checked with the hospital in Saint
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John's and there was no associated incidents. We know it's
not linked to the homicide, so it's a bit of
a mystery at this stage. But if you know anything,
or if you are the victim a victim, please come forward.
It's not to say it wasn't an accidental, an accident
that's caused somebody to bleed, but at this point in time,
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we just don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It seems very odd, doesn't it that there's such a
large pool of blood in the CBD and nobody's reported
it to police, or nobody's sort of reported something going on.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, look, you know, I mean, if you were drunken,
fell over and started bleeding, you wouldn't ordinarily report it
to the police. It could be something more sinister than that.
But we just simply don't know. But if you do,
if anyone does know, please contact us and we can
put the matter arrest.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Assistant Commissioner, Are we seeing a bit of a spike
in crime and bad behavior in our CBD at the moment?
I guess there's been a few really highly publicized incidents
that have been horrible, horrible incidents, not only the alleged
murder on Friday or in the early hours of Saturday morning,
also that domestic violence incident, but even a couple of
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weeks ago where we saw a lovely woman who was
assaulted in our CBD. There does seem to be a
lot more people in our city at the moment.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, Katie, look at these serious incidents attract a lot
of attention, a lot of community interest. Quite rightly so,
and yeah, they're very well publicized, and we bring them
forward and advise the community that you know, the homicide
was particularly sad incident, but we try to keep the
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public informed of topical issues and sadly there's been a
few of them that have come to notice in the
last week or two.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, yeah, and you know, I think that rightly so
obviously the police making sure that we are aware of those.
But I guess the concern is that we are seeing
an increased level of crime in our city. Is that
something that the police are are aware of or do
you think that is the case?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Look, I have to take that question on notice, but
the community sentiment is certainly that crime is an issue,
and you know, perception is reality. So we accept that,
you know, there are issues and we need to address
them as best we can.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I have also noticed that there seems to be a
lot of people sort of drinking and sleepy rough like
at the end of Stuart Park near the fire station there,
and also across the road at the service station in
perap In addition to some of what we're seeing around
the city, have we got a lot of extra people
here from other communities at the moment, look, I.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Can say that the Interagency Tasking Coordination Group that we
sit on meet regularly and address these issues. I'm aware
that there's been a lot of people that have been
repatriated through the Return to Country program to their home communities.
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One aspect that was told to me yesterday was that
a lot of people were stuck here from a particular
community after the Royal Darwen show and they just simply
didn't have the means to get back home. So, you know,
it's a seasonal issue. I suspect it will become more
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prominent in the coming months when the wet season. The
riot where the itinerant population tends to be more noticeable,
sheltering from the weather. But you know, it happens at
this time of year every year, but we're certainly building
up towards the wet season where it may not be
more prevalent, but it might be more noticeable.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And is their work underway. I mean, it sounds as
though there is with that interagency response, but there is
work underway to get people back home because I guess
you know, if people are sleeping out in public areas
and they're not engaging in public drinking or they're not
engaging in bad behavior, it's neither here nor there to people.
But then when you're seeing some of what we are around,
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you know, our CBD, even last Thursday night, there was
a lot of intoxicated people just out you know, it's
sort of seven point thirty at night, yelling at people,
you know, abusing tourists as are going past. I know
because I've witnessed it myself. You know, that kind of
behavior the community just does not want happening.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
And look, that applies to all of us. We don't
like seeing that and it can be distressing for people
as well. But the bottom line is organizations like LARAKA
are working really really hard to get people that want
to go back home back home. And you know, the
people that were stranded here after the show was a
really good example of how that service helped those people
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to get back home and not live that life that
can capture them in the urban areas.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Now, Assistant Commissioner, Some vision has really made headlines right
around the nation in the last twenty four hours. It
first appeared in the Australian newspaper and then Channel nine
last night of a young boy being taken away from
from a family where he had been you know who
he'd been with from quite a young age from my understanding,
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and then had run away from a foster home according
to the Australian newspaper and forcibly removed five and than
Territory police, what exactly has gone on here? From the
police perspective, Katie.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
From a police perspective, we were assisting Territory families with
their role. It's you know, usually it's pursuant to some
court order, but it may have been pursuant to the
Care and Protect and Protection of Children Act. It's not
unique to Territory families. We help health with mental health
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related incidents. So bottom line is I can't really talk
too much about it. It's a matter for Territory families
to address.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But from time to time, by the sounds of it,
the police will be called in to assist territory families
to try to help in a situation like that.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah. Absolutely, if there's potential for needing police. You know,
we help a wide range of government departments. But in
this particular case, yeah, I'd ask you to refer that
one to territory families for a more fulsome comment. Again,
there's some legislative aspects about identifying and releasing information that
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may identify our child, So just ask you to tread.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Carefully on that one to well, we'll see what info
we can get from territory families. I do want to
ask you though, before I let you go, Assistant Commissioner
Knife Crime and the wanding, where are things ash with
police being able to wand territorians.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, Look, it's a work in progress. We're building right
up to it. We've received the ones and they've been
distributed to the various work units and we anticipate having
some wandering action next week. We're still getting our heads
around the affected place in the high risk area aspects
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of the legislation. It's a tool and if it's if
it's a tool that we can use to keep the
community safe.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
We will do that, but from potentially next week potentially, Yeah,
what kind like what sort of furthest steps? I guess
you have to just make sure you've got in place
before you can start doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You know, we need to train our people, we need
to make sure that they do it lawfully, and probably
we don't. You know, it's not it's not designed to
embarrass or anyone. It is designed to keep people safe
on our straight So we just want to make sure
we get it right.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
As well, and our officers at this point feeling pretty
confident with being able to use those ones.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Look, I actually haven't asked that question, but as I say,
it's you know, it's new and we want to get
it right and you know it is a tool where
we can use it to keep the community safe.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well. Acting Assistant Commissioner Matt Holland B. We appreciate your
time this morning. Obviously acting in the assistant commissioner role.
You've been over with major have you been with major crime?
Organized crime?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Organized crime? Intelligence and Capability? So I had basically three folios.
One was Drug Squad an organized crime, the other one
was tig Water Police Dogs, and horses, and the other
one was the intelligence side of the house, so very
interesting role. I really enjoyed it, but you know it's
it vast to be been asked to take over this
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portfolio and looking looking forward to the challenge.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Well, no doubt we'll be speaking with you a little
bit more often. Acting Assistant Commissioner Matt Hollandby really appreciate
your time this morning. Thanks so much for coming in.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Thanks Katie, thank you.