Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining me in the studio right now is the Lord
Mayor of Darwin convat Scarlets.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good morning to UKNN, Good morning Katie, and it's a
beautiful weather. I can't believe actually where they build up,
and I can't believe there's still so many tourists in town.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, there is plenty of tourists in town.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well. And the other thing that actually, now you've mentioned it,
the other thing that I think is really interesting to
have quick discussion about is the backpackers around the place.
I've seen them parked up at East Point. Doesn't bother me,
doesn't concern me in any way, shape or form, but
it does make me realize that we need an RV
park somewhere, or we need somewhere for some of those
(00:34):
vans to be able to park and be able to
stay for a few days.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You better go and talk to the people who opposed it.
We put the proposal in place, some people didn't like it. Well,
other said to you before again it's good to have
tourists here, but they stay somewhere. Yes, there are caravan parks,
but one of them has converted now is converted to
a house in estate. So the number of sites being
limited that are quite a few around. Definitely we need
(01:00):
something for people to actually pack the car instead of
piking in the esplanodost point con.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I will move along because there's lots to discuss this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I do want to just ask.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
You about the alleged assault from the Chief Minister on
the weekend. The Nightcliff Markets are such a you know,
such a beautiful marketplace. Something like this happening is just
not on.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Absolutely I've been to the Nightcliff Markets that I go
to Nightcliff Markets regularly as a private season before and
as an elected member when I was a member for
Casarina and now as the Lord Mayor.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Together with the Rapid Creek Markets.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
One other thing I like in Darwin is actually politicians
of any kind with any color are going out like
normal people, sit down and have a coffee, and people
have the chance to sit down and talk to them,
and sometimes they bring some complaints. Sometimes they talk to
you for local issues. What happened on Sunday I think
it was totally unacceptable, and what really bugs me is
(01:55):
the attitude of the person that committed the assault, because
that's what is is assault. That it was a small error,
not apology, nothing current for a all of entitlement. I'm
sorry that person that you actually threw a piot and
hit in the eye, gave a black eye. She is
a public servant and she did her job. So now
(02:15):
if you got a court and you get a kick
up your ass, you deserve it.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You should take twice before you do something.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Does that worry you when something like that happens that
it could potentially open up other people like yourself. You're
in the public public eye. Something like that could happen.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Many years ago, when I was the Minister of Planning,
I received a death threat that somebody didn't like my
planning this year. You're going to get his gun and
come and get me. And I had to ring my
I was narly spring at the time, and I had
to ring my wife then and tended to go and
take the kids from the school because of the danger,
and the police had to patrol my house.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Where do we live?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean, this is really stupid. If you've got a problem,
go and see the person and talk to them. Natasha
and other politicians and Leah and everybody is either in
the nightcliff markets or the publers of mine to sit
down and tell them you've got to complain that action
is unacceptable. And if we accept on today, what are
we prepared to accept tomorrow? This is this is a
(03:08):
small things, start from small things and then escalates.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well that's what I actually thought to myself yesterday when
people were sort of down applying this. What's to stop
you know somebody that's for an example, you know, anti
fracking turning up to a gas conference as we've seen recently,
and rather than protesting outside, you know, throwing something or
approaching or or you know, or being aggressive.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Absolutely, and where do we stop.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You don't like the decision by the referee in an
AFL much, or we're going to beat up or the
teacher told your kid off and you tend to up
to score an abuse the teacher. No, that's not acceptable.
This is not the society I want to live. This
is not the side I want my kids to live,
and I bet you everybody who live up there, it's
not the society you want to live.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Con I want to move on because we discussed these
shes today.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
The City of Darwin Council is going to move a
motion to.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Support the guests campaign for the Indigenous Voice to Parliament
at its ordinary meeting today. It was put forward by
Counselor Morgan Ricard and if passed, it is going to
see campaign materials posted at libraries, swimming pools and community
centers with staffed don in T shirts and badgers in
the workplace. Con are you going to support the motion?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Let make clear first, it's not the City of down
And putting in the Motion's Council Ricard himself put that motion.
Every council has the ability and the right to bring
a motion to the Council if it complies with all
the procedures.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Now councl Recard will bring that one.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It has to be a decision by the majority of
the councilors to become then a council motion.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But are you going to support us?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
My personal view is this is not the right forum,
not the right place or even the right time to
bring this kind of motion to counsole. We've got to
address local issues. This is a national issue. I let
the National Parliament and the people of Australia decide on
that one, not me.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
It really doesn't sound like you're going to support.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It really bugs me when people telling me big companies
like Kwandas and newspaper tell me how to vote. That's
my right, my decision. I know how to vote. I
don't want you to tell me. And certainly it's not
up to the Council to tell people what to vote
want to do. I don't think it's the right place
in respect to what I think about the Voice, I
will vote not, and I believe that other councilors will
(05:20):
vote not because for the same reasons, not because we
don't like Voice or anything else, because we don't think
that council is the right forum to bring this kind.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Of motion in Well, that's that is the sentiment that
was being brought to us yesterday on the show, but
also over the course of the weekend. I had a
number of listeners get in contact with me about it.
So and Katie, this is not the role of the council,
but Connor, I question the timing as well. I mean,
it is just a few weeks out now, so what
difference would it really make.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, you have to ask Counsel Ricardo about that. For me,
he is entitled to bring the motion. He's a democratic council.
But again Casualy car wrote the letters, they're explaining why
and he said that we leave the Council with the
Ukraine flags and it was a political no, it was not.
Actually there was an invasion of one country, illegal invasion
against another one, and we socially dart to the people
(06:07):
that are actually invaded. This one is different. This is a
referredum in place that people are called to vote one
way or another. It has generated to a political shit fight,
people calling each other names. This is the last thing
we need at the moment. Now, council is not going
to get this debate. I will vote no, and I'm
pretty sure the councils will vote no.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Coln Mister Ricardo had pointed to the Council's strong relationships
with Larakia nation in putting that motion forward, do you
expect that that relationship will be impacted? I mean even
you saying that you are not going to support the
motion tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We're not voting for the voice. We're not voting yes
to the voice or not to the voice. We're voting
about this voice. You're coming to the council now, Mister
Ricard says, yes, we do have very strong relation.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Absolutely, we have a strong relation.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But at the same time, even in suther Larrakia, the
difference of opinion Helen secretary says she's going to vote
now said he's going to vote no. So it's not
a uniform position. But again I'm stressing the Council is
not the forum to bring this question into to vote
all right, there are other forums, other areas, and the
(07:16):
biggest forum will be fourteenth of October when people.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Decide con One of our listeners has been in contact
and did ask if if this motion gets up and
the council does support it happening, I know you've vote,
you've said that you're not going to vote yes, you're
going to vote no, just on this motion.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
How much is it going to cost to get these
posters up?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And we don't know because we don't have the budget.
That's another thing that actually have to be considered during
the debate.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
What will be the cost?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But the other question is if according to council record,
we'll tell people to wear yes t shirts?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
What happened? Why we're not allowed to wear no? Why
are you so?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Is that something that you will be raising tonight at
the council meeting.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
During the debate, My question will be we heard about
the yes case, but we haven't heard about the no voice.
And you're calling us here to make a decision.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Are you worried that that could cause sort of arguments
amongst your staff if you've got people that are turning
up in yes ones and people turning up in no shirts.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, as we've seen in the media, and we've seen
what happened at the moment, it has become what should
be a very simple question, it has become very convoluted
and very divisive.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, and look, you know, I get that it's a referendum,
so it's different to an election campaign. But for an
election campaign, you wouldn't allow staff to rock up with
I support you know Nsasaphiles, or I support the if
not Giao, or our support the Greens.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
We don't allow council to actually take political positions. Now
country cultures, there's not a political decision, are beg to differ?
That has become a political decision a political question.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Con Paul from a LAC has called in to ask
if there's any fines or penalties for people in the
Northern suburbs who are still putting items out for cyclone
collection after it's passed.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, there is, and if they don't clean themselves then
if there's a complaint, we will address it. We encourage
everybody to look. We're told many times on the radio
and the media, on the website, when to put your
rubbish out. If you decide to ignore it and then
decide to put your rabbis three weeks later, well I'm
sorry you've taken them yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
To the tip.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Someone said, Hi, Katie, can you ask the legendary Corn
if they're still doing cycle and clean up in Karama?
Driving around, it looks like there's still heaps of piles
of rubbish out in front of hundreds of houses and
unit complexes. It's a bad look and inviting anti social tendencies.
In the wheels of the night, just saying thanks, legend
keep up the great work.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Thanks very much.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm not legendary, just con The thing I will tell
you is that we're still doing clean up the second zone.
I can't recall it Kara Zone or not, but I
know very well that they clean up. We'll finish this Friday.
Hopefully we'll finish it by Friday. If not, we certainly
continue to clean up. But I'll find out and I'll
advise our people.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Now, Corn, there's been an expression of interest, or there
is an expression of interest right now for the Casuarina
Aquatic Center.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Where are we at with this?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
We're calling for expression of indurors, for people to actually
tell us what they want to if they want to
come to Casurina Aquatic Center when it finishes, establish their
businesses with like cafe, restaurant, health providers, everybody else. So
we can actually program ourselves because we're in the construction
heaving into construction, but if we know from now on
what they need, then we can fit the appropriate areas
(10:28):
for them.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
And I locate the appropriate area.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And so is that he oh I just started or
have you already sort of been contacted by businesses started?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
And we invite business to actually address that.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, right, I reckon that'll be I think it's going
to be interesting to see who's potentially keen to get
into that area and to operate.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The opportunity, especially for a coffee shop. IF's what we
deliver into the public is going to attract a lot
of public, So you'd be crazy not to actually crash
the opportunity and establish a very nice coffee shop, restaurant
or take away there.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And I'm speaking of aquatic centers. Well, on the weekend
at perap they've got the country Championships coming to the
Northern Territory. There is going to be hundreds of athletes
in the territory. It'll be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Music to my ear.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Let me remind you that some of the winners in
the Olympics swimming, they actually train at the Perrup swimming pool.
They came from all over Australia to train because certainly
the weather he is much better than Melbourne and Sydney.
So if he has Perup Pool now he has become
a center for excellence. People want to train there and
they do. And when casari And open will have another
(11:32):
opportunity for more people to train.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It'll be more leisure though at Casuarina both both there
will be.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Fifty pool, twenty five meter pool and a resort style pool, so.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
You can actually come for the training or you come.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
For relaxing well combat scarlets.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
The Lord Mayor of Darwin always good to catch up
with you really appreciate your time this morning. Hey on
the council clean up stuff, people can still jump online.
Go to the website the City of Darwen and just
doubles check.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Clearly to make sure that your area is the right one.
If you miss the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You still have free access to the tip because we're
the only counts in Australia that actually allow you to
go to tip anytime. Usually other counts allow you three
times a year or four times a year. At this stage,
we allow you to go any time. But again, ticks
can changed the future. And I'm saying that one because
we're the only places where people actually take great pleasures
to go every week to the tip.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Cannot just ask has there been heaps of stuff like
picked up already with the.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know, with the cyclone cleaner.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I don't have the volume, so we have the volumes
at the end of let's save the month. When actually
compile all the statistics, yeah, you know how much? Please
here was about two hundred times. So it's amazing what
junk we keep in our yarch.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
It is fascinating in fact.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But then I guess the part that gets annoying is
when after the cyclone cleanup's over and people are still
putting junk out on the sidewalk. Sorry, count Clarens out
there you.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Calling me Karen, better not be Conrad scarlets. Thank you