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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Unfortunately, these issues that we are seeing in Alice Springs
when it comes to crime, in youths engaged in crime,
they're not disappearing. But there has, like I said, been
a number of announcements in the last twenty four hours
and it does all relate to that funding that the
Prime Minister had announced earlier in the year. But look,
joining me on the line right now, we have got her.
It is Marian Scrimjaw, the Member for Lingiari. Good morning
(00:23):
to you, Marion.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Good morning Katie. How are you not bad?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
How are you? I understand you've just been bailed up
by some protesters.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ah, yeah, Look it's okay. You know, we live in
a we probably live in one of the best democracies
anywhere in the world, you know, Like it's okay for
people to protest and for members like myself, it's just
part of our role and what we've got to deal with.
And it's great to see that the community, you know,
(00:56):
with some of the protests. Look, I never get I
never get what's the right words precious about you know,
people's right to protest. I think you know that's their right.
I don't have to necessarily agree with some of those views.
But hey, you know, and I've had that conversation with
(01:18):
him and said, you know, sometimes you're just going to
agree to disagree.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What were they on about this morning, Marion.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh look, it's it's the it's gather and it's you know,
the the senseless slaughter and killing of women and children.
You know what's happening between you know, Hamas and the Israel.
It's it's a it's an issue that's not going to
go away anytime soon, Haki. And you know, we're only
(01:50):
one government and as I said, I'm only one member.
And there's a whole lot of you know, wars that
have been fought in the street develop strings and you know,
even in the top end, in places like Catherine and
the top End. And I said this to Amanda Rishworth
yesterday that it's not just Central Australia. We've got to
(02:12):
have a look at the whole of the Northern territory
because we are we're going to see another summer and
another wet season in the top end where where you
know there are there are young people running a mark
and you know, and I've always said this alcohol restrictions
is one thing and it'll allow the community to have
(02:33):
some respite, but we often don't focus on nor are
we tough in terms of the youth crime and the problems.
We've use disengagement and what's happening on the streets, not
just an other Springs, but also came and.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
You spot on and even yesterday we've spoken about this
in Catherine. We've spoken to some to a business owner
there who had said exactly the same. You know, we've
got to get this under control. But Marie, and what
we do know is that the federal government this morning,
well you guys, have announced some programs over the summer
period in effort to try to keep young people off
(03:11):
the streets, keep them healthy, keep them engaged, and promote
community safety. Up to fifty young people, as I understand it,
are going to be able to well up to fifty
at risk Aboriginal young people in Alice Springs are going
to be able to take part in these new targeted
culturally led diversion program. How exactly is it going to work?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Look, it's about making those kids on country, Katie. It's
using an Aboriginal family and different Aboriginal groups that can
get these families and these kids. A lot of these
kids have come to the attention of territory families and police.
So they're already known to be doing activity that they
(03:56):
shouldn't be doing. So it's a means of we need
to hurry up and get these programs, get these kids
out of this town with their families and put them
on country and then wrap the therapeutic care and support
around not just the young person but the families. Because
I keep saying this. We can target kids and we
(04:17):
can put them away, or we can do things, but
unless we make parents and families responsible for what those
young people are doing, we're never ever going to resolve
this issue. We're going to continue to have this conversation
in six months time, in twelve months time when we
go the next election, you know wherever that is. But
(04:40):
you know, like we've got to start getting families to
take some responsibility. Now what does that mean? So I'm
looking forward to having some conversations with Nari are Kids,
who's the new Minister for Territory Families, and with Chancey
Paik as the Attorney General, because there are me already
(05:01):
in place. There's actually quite strong legislation within the Northern
Territory Government responsibility that we can enact and im commence,
but it needs you know, it does need resources, but
it needs government to be a bit brave and to
be a bit bold here.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, why aren't they already marry it? I mean, why
aren't they already Like, let's be really blunt about this.
You and I have spoken that many times this year
about this issue. I mean you've just said yourself a
moment ago that things are that it is, that it's
going to be bad again over the summer period. Why
aren't they all ready making these changes and already actually
(05:44):
doing this if it's within the legislation that they've got.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Look, I think that there's a there's a lot of
will and wanting to do this from you know, from
the members of parts, so ministers, it's we've got to
get some talent within our government agencies, Katie. We've got
to get people who because politicians can't, they're not the
(06:10):
service deliverance. You know, we can set politicians set the
policy frameworks and what needs to happen. Well, the policy
framework is there, but it needs it needs the public service,
It needs organizations. But we need to hand that responsibility
over as well and fund community organizations because I don't
(06:34):
think that government agencies can do this work. We're going
the only way this is done.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I can't do it though, lot Seriously, Marion, we have
got the biggest public service comparatively to our population. If
they can't do it, then what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, Katie, I think that's the question. Maybe you should
ask the Minister for Public Employment in the in the
Northern Territory. But look, can I say that we've got
It's probably got in the Northern Territory some really really innovative,
creative and you know, really supportive community organizations and that's
(07:17):
where we should be directing our funding too, to get
them to do the work that they are. You know,
they have the answers. We need to fund them as
part as a solution moving forward. And the federal government
part of the thirty million dollar announcement yesterday was not
giving that money to the Northern Territory government. It was
(07:39):
giving the money to those community organizations to start doing
the necessary work that we need them to do.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Marian, let's talk about that thirty million dollars. We know
that it is going to be on partnerships over four
years to support place based initiatives in regional and remote
central Australia targeted at strengthening family and community safety. I
know that domestic and family violence expert doctor j Brown
has been on the ABC radio a bit earlier this
morning saying what was announced is not what they've been
(08:10):
asking for. She doesn't think that they've been listened to
and she wants the federal government to really listen to
what experts and those on the frontline are saying. Is
the government doing that and are you making a genuine
commitment to working with these service providers to make an
impact when it comes to domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. Look, I think there'll never be enough money for
this issue, Katie. We've got to change the way in
which we're doing that work. And yesterday the Minister and
I met with the Tongue and Jeers Strong women's group
who are doing a lot of work. But there's one
program in particular that they run and that's where some
(08:54):
of that funding will go to, and it's the men's
Behavioral program. Because we know that changing domestic violence and
family violence and sexualized violence that we need to target
men in this process as well. So part of that
funding will go towards the program that they're running. They
(09:16):
run some fantastic programs Boys Can, Girls Can, and it's
changing you know, the way in which you know, our
family think about and you know, making young people feel
strong about themselves, of their identity and who they are
become stronger. We will net look one of the things
(09:36):
that we've given a commitment to in the Minister said
yesterday Katie, we are not funding the Northern Territory on
a population basis. The funding for the Northern Territory, particularly
under the Partnership Agreement, which is quite separate from the
thirty million which is part of the average on Taristoate
(09:57):
Island of Family Violent Family and Domestic Violence program that's
around over one hundred and forty seven million dollars which
has been negotiated with the territory government at the moment.
So there's a whole lot of buckets that are coming
into the Northern Territory. We need to just make sure
(10:18):
that there is good distribution to those organizations that Shaye
Brown is talking about. But that what those you know
what those the places right across the NT and not
just Our of Springs, but because that money was only
for Our of Springs. Yeah, so we're looking at what
(10:39):
do we need to do to build the capacity of doors,
Dawn House, you know, the Catherine Women Shelter ten and Creek.
So all of those organizations need to be given needs
based funding U.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
So it will so the federal government is going to
go to that needs based funding. Is the federal government
going to commit to the needspace funding which the Northern
Territory government, but most importantly those domestic violence services and
advocates have really been pushing for. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Look that certainly, Amanda Rishworth said very clearly to the
Tongue and Jeer women Safety groups and the others that
we met with. We met with Wasska as well, you
know the Ala Springs Women Shelter. So these agreements fan
work through at the moment which we'll look at needs
(11:29):
based funding rather than population and Amanda Rishword's made that
clear that both are and Tadie Gallagher but also our government,
that we're committed to working with the Northern Territory government
to make sure that that money, the needs based funding
money is given to those services.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Marian I know your press for time this morning, as
are we, but I do want to ask you. I
mean this these announcements made one yesterday afternoon with Amanda
Rishworth obviously one made this morning for use for these
fifty youth. Are you still concerned that there are going
to be issues over the summer period in Alice Springs.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, look, I'm going to you know, I'm on my
way back to Canberra for the last inning of Parliament
and you know we're doing some condolence motion where you
know it's hit us personally where one of our fantastic
MPs recently died for a long battle with breast cancer.
(12:37):
I'll come back. I'm going to have some time just
over that Christmas period, Katie, and then i'll be back
on deck after the new year having a look at
Alice Springs. But I'm going to drive up the Stuart Highway,
go to Tenant Creek, have a look around Tenant and
then Catherine and then come into Darwin, but have a
(13:00):
look to make sure that we're listening to and that's
where on top of what some of those issues are.
So you know, I'll have a bit of a break
after the parliament shuts down, but then back on deck
to drive through the regions to just keep an eye
(13:20):
on things. But certainly for Alice Springs, I'm hoping we
don't have the same summer that we had last year, Katie,
and I hope that you know the Commissioner, the commitment
given to the Prime Minister and Minister Bernie that there
will be thirty additional police here in Alice Springs, that
we're not robbing Peter to pay Paul, So we're not
(13:42):
taking police from their existing police posts, whether it's our
Bush or whether it's in Darwin Catherine or Tenant and
bringing him into Alice Springs because that leads Darwin Catherine,
Tenant those Bush communities exposed. Marian.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Look, I agree with you. I think that we do
need to make sure that no other area is exposed.
You spot on with that. But the worry that a
lot of Territorians have got right now is the Northern
Territory Government and indeed, you know, through the federal government,
through that funding, have had a year to try and
get this under control. We've still got twelve year olds
(14:22):
allegedly stealing cars in Alice Springs. We've still got an
enormous number of issues up here in the top end.
It seems as though the government has done anything but
get this under control.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, look, it needs to. You know, one of the things, Katie.
And we've made it clear to the Northern Territory government
the federal government shouldn't be responsible for policing or these
other issues. But we've certainly provided substantial resourcing in the
money that's needed for the Northern Territory government to put
(14:57):
in place these programs. What is starting to become a
parent is that the federal government more and more community
is calling for us to become more involved in how
that service delivery happens. Well, now you know that that
(15:18):
makes the federal government a bit nervous because we're not
a service provider. But I think that the Northern Territory
government has to step up here and listen to what
the community is saying. And you know the fourteen million
that the Prime Minister you know advanced payment to the
(15:39):
Northern Charity government to get the policing that was needed
down here, but also in the top and there's been
substantial money given to the you know, to the Northern
Territory government from the federal government to deal with this issue.
And you know when the legislation went through when the
Northern Charity government lifted the criminal responsibility of those kids
(16:04):
between ten and twelve, there should have been more work
done between the federal government and the Northern Charity to
make sure that we had those safe places or places
of security, secure facilities to be able to take these
young people too.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And Marian has that raising of them and that's why
we're not the problem. Has that raising of the criminal age?
Has that created problems across the Northern Territory because we
haven't made sure that that support is in place.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, look, I think and it's not just the Northern
Territory government's responsibility, you know. You know that you can
point the finger and I think that we also should
have made sure that the funding was on the table
to put these secure facilities in place. I've been calling
for them for some time, for well over a year,
(16:57):
to get the funding to make this happen so that
those ten to twelve year old that you know, police
can't charge, but there are avenues under the Use Justice Act.
Now I've you know, we've had a look at this.
You know, there's a there's a person working in my
(17:17):
office who's got a wealth of knowledge and experience in
the child protection system. We're looking at how do we
how do we navigate the maze that's there and clear
some of those, you know, the layers of bureaucracy that's
preventing the outcomes that we want on the ground. So
(17:40):
we're we're quickly working through that. We'll give that to
the Northern Territory Government, but we'll also provide that to you,
Katie and anyone else. Hopefully we can get that body
of work happening a SAP.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We'd appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We can't continue to have the problems that we're seeing
on the on the streets, whether it's Allie, Catherine, Tenants
and Darwin. Yeah, we can't. Just because Darwen's the major
capital city doesn't mean that there aren't issues there.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yes, spot on, Well, Marion Scrimjaw, we are going to
have to leave it there. I always appreciate your time.
If I don't talk to you before Christmas, Merry Christmas,
and thanks for your time throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
No, and saying to you Katie and your family you
enjoy and stay safe you too.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Thank you
Unfortunately, these issues that we are seeing in Alice Springs
when it comes to crime, in youths engaged in crime,
they're not disappearing. But there has, like I said, been
a number of announcements in the last twenty four hours
and it does all relate to that funding that the
Prime Minister had announced earlier in the year. But look,
joining me on the line right now, we have got her.
It is Marian Scrimjaw, the Member for Lingiari. Good morning
(00:23):
to you, Marion.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Good morning Katie. How are you not bad?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
How are you? I understand you've just been bailed up
by some protesters.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ah, yeah, Look it's okay. You know, we live in
a we probably live in one of the best democracies
anywhere in the world, you know, Like it's okay for
people to protest and for members like myself, it's just
part of our role and what we've got to deal with.
And it's great to see that the community, you know,
(00:56):
with some of the protests. Look, I never get I
never get what's the right words precious about you know,
people's right to protest. I think you know that's their right.
I don't have to necessarily agree with some of those views.
But hey, you know, and I've had that conversation with
(01:18):
him and said, you know, sometimes you're just going to
agree to disagree.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What were they on about this morning, Marion.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh look, it's it's the it's gather and it's you know,
the the senseless slaughter and killing of women and children.
You know what's happening between you know, Hamas and the Israel.
It's it's a it's an issue that's not going to
go away anytime soon, Haki. And you know, we're only
(01:50):
one government and as I said, I'm only one member.
And there's a whole lot of you know, wars that
have been fought in the street develop strings and you know,
even in the top end, in places like Catherine and
the top End. And I said this to Amanda Rishworth
yesterday that it's not just Central Australia. We've got to
(02:12):
have a look at the whole of the Northern territory
because we are we're going to see another summer and
another wet season in the top end where where you
know there are there are young people running a mark
and you know, and I've always said this alcohol restrictions
is one thing and it'll allow the community to have
(02:33):
some respite, but we often don't focus on nor are
we tough in terms of the youth crime and the problems.
We've use disengagement and what's happening on the streets, not
just an other Springs, but also came and.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
You spot on and even yesterday we've spoken about this
in Catherine. We've spoken to some to a business owner
there who had said exactly the same. You know, we've
got to get this under control. But Marie, and what
we do know is that the federal government this morning,
well you guys, have announced some programs over the summer
period in effort to try to keep young people off
(03:11):
the streets, keep them healthy, keep them engaged, and promote
community safety. Up to fifty young people, as I understand it,
are going to be able to well up to fifty
at risk Aboriginal young people in Alice Springs are going
to be able to take part in these new targeted
culturally led diversion program. How exactly is it going to work?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Look, it's about making those kids on country, Katie. It's
using an Aboriginal family and different Aboriginal groups that can
get these families and these kids. A lot of these
kids have come to the attention of territory families and police.
So they're already known to be doing activity that they
(03:56):
shouldn't be doing. So it's a means of we need
to hurry up and get these programs, get these kids
out of this town with their families and put them
on country and then wrap the therapeutic care and support
around not just the young person but the families. Because
I keep saying this. We can target kids and we
(04:17):
can put them away, or we can do things, but
unless we make parents and families responsible for what those
young people are doing, we're never ever going to resolve
this issue. We're going to continue to have this conversation
in six months time, in twelve months time when we
go the next election, you know wherever that is. But
(04:40):
you know, like we've got to start getting families to
take some responsibility. Now what does that mean? So I'm
looking forward to having some conversations with Nari are Kids,
who's the new Minister for Territory Families, and with Chancey
Paik as the Attorney General, because there are me already
(05:01):
in place. There's actually quite strong legislation within the Northern
Territory Government responsibility that we can enact and im commence,
but it needs you know, it does need resources, but
it needs government to be a bit brave and to
be a bit bold here.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, why aren't they already marry it? I mean, why
aren't they already Like, let's be really blunt about this.
You and I have spoken that many times this year
about this issue. I mean you've just said yourself a
moment ago that things are that it is, that it's
going to be bad again over the summer period. Why
aren't they all ready making these changes and already actually
(05:44):
doing this if it's within the legislation that they've got.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Look, I think that there's a there's a lot of
will and wanting to do this from you know, from
the members of parts, so ministers, it's we've got to
get some talent within our government agencies, Katie. We've got
to get people who because politicians can't, they're not the
(06:10):
service deliverance. You know, we can set politicians set the
policy frameworks and what needs to happen. Well, the policy
framework is there, but it needs it needs the public service,
It needs organizations. But we need to hand that responsibility
over as well and fund community organizations because I don't
(06:34):
think that government agencies can do this work. We're going
the only way this is done.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I can't do it though, lot Seriously, Marion, we have
got the biggest public service comparatively to our population. If
they can't do it, then what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, Katie, I think that's the question. Maybe you should
ask the Minister for Public Employment in the in the
Northern Territory. But look, can I say that we've got
It's probably got in the Northern Territory some really really innovative,
creative and you know, really supportive community organizations and that's
(07:17):
where we should be directing our funding too, to get
them to do the work that they are. You know,
they have the answers. We need to fund them as
part as a solution moving forward. And the federal government
part of the thirty million dollar announcement yesterday was not
giving that money to the Northern Territory government. It was
(07:39):
giving the money to those community organizations to start doing
the necessary work that we need them to do.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Marian, let's talk about that thirty million dollars. We know
that it is going to be on partnerships over four
years to support place based initiatives in regional and remote
central Australia targeted at strengthening family and community safety. I
know that domestic and family violence expert doctor j Brown
has been on the ABC radio a bit earlier this
morning saying what was announced is not what they've been
(08:10):
asking for. She doesn't think that they've been listened to
and she wants the federal government to really listen to
what experts and those on the frontline are saying. Is
the government doing that and are you making a genuine
commitment to working with these service providers to make an
impact when it comes to domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. Look, I think there'll never be enough money for
this issue, Katie. We've got to change the way in
which we're doing that work. And yesterday the Minister and
I met with the Tongue and Jeers Strong women's group
who are doing a lot of work. But there's one
program in particular that they run and that's where some
(08:54):
of that funding will go to, and it's the men's
Behavioral program. Because we know that changing domestic violence and
family violence and sexualized violence that we need to target
men in this process as well. So part of that
funding will go towards the program that they're running. They
(09:16):
run some fantastic programs Boys Can, Girls Can, and it's
changing you know, the way in which you know, our
family think about and you know, making young people feel
strong about themselves, of their identity and who they are
become stronger. We will net look one of the things
(09:36):
that we've given a commitment to in the Minister said
yesterday Katie, we are not funding the Northern Territory on
a population basis. The funding for the Northern Territory, particularly
under the Partnership Agreement, which is quite separate from the
thirty million which is part of the average on Taristoate
(09:57):
Island of Family Violent Family and Domestic Violence program that's
around over one hundred and forty seven million dollars which
has been negotiated with the territory government at the moment.
So there's a whole lot of buckets that are coming
into the Northern Territory. We need to just make sure
(10:18):
that there is good distribution to those organizations that Shaye
Brown is talking about. But that what those you know
what those the places right across the NT and not
just Our of Springs, but because that money was only
for Our of Springs. Yeah, so we're looking at what
(10:39):
do we need to do to build the capacity of doors,
Dawn House, you know, the Catherine Women Shelter ten and Creek.
So all of those organizations need to be given needs
based funding U.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
So it will so the federal government is going to
go to that needs based funding. Is the federal government
going to commit to the needspace funding which the Northern
Territory government, but most importantly those domestic violence services and
advocates have really been pushing for. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Look that certainly, Amanda Rishworth said very clearly to the
Tongue and Jeer women Safety groups and the others that
we met with. We met with Wasska as well, you
know the Ala Springs Women Shelter. So these agreements fan
work through at the moment which we'll look at needs
(11:29):
based funding rather than population and Amanda Rishword's made that
clear that both are and Tadie Gallagher but also our government,
that we're committed to working with the Northern Territory government
to make sure that that money, the needs based funding
money is given to those services.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Marian I know your press for time this morning, as
are we, but I do want to ask you. I
mean this these announcements made one yesterday afternoon with Amanda
Rishworth obviously one made this morning for use for these
fifty youth. Are you still concerned that there are going
to be issues over the summer period in Alice Springs.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, look, I'm going to you know, I'm on my
way back to Canberra for the last inning of Parliament
and you know we're doing some condolence motion where you
know it's hit us personally where one of our fantastic
MPs recently died for a long battle with breast cancer.
(12:37):
I'll come back. I'm going to have some time just
over that Christmas period, Katie, and then i'll be back
on deck after the new year having a look at
Alice Springs. But I'm going to drive up the Stuart Highway,
go to Tenant Creek, have a look around Tenant and
then Catherine and then come into Darwin, but have a
(13:00):
look to make sure that we're listening to and that's
where on top of what some of those issues are.
So you know, I'll have a bit of a break
after the parliament shuts down, but then back on deck
to drive through the regions to just keep an eye
(13:20):
on things. But certainly for Alice Springs, I'm hoping we
don't have the same summer that we had last year, Katie,
and I hope that you know the Commissioner, the commitment
given to the Prime Minister and Minister Bernie that there
will be thirty additional police here in Alice Springs, that
we're not robbing Peter to pay Paul, So we're not
(13:42):
taking police from their existing police posts, whether it's our
Bush or whether it's in Darwin Catherine or Tenant and
bringing him into Alice Springs because that leads Darwin Catherine,
Tenant those Bush communities exposed. Marian.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Look, I agree with you. I think that we do
need to make sure that no other area is exposed.
You spot on with that. But the worry that a
lot of Territorians have got right now is the Northern
Territory Government and indeed, you know, through the federal government,
through that funding, have had a year to try and
get this under control. We've still got twelve year olds
(14:22):
allegedly stealing cars in Alice Springs. We've still got an
enormous number of issues up here in the top end.
It seems as though the government has done anything but
get this under control.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, look, it needs to. You know, one of the things, Katie.
And we've made it clear to the Northern Territory government
the federal government shouldn't be responsible for policing or these
other issues. But we've certainly provided substantial resourcing in the
money that's needed for the Northern Territory government to put
(14:57):
in place these programs. What is starting to become a
parent is that the federal government more and more community
is calling for us to become more involved in how
that service delivery happens. Well, now you know that that
(15:18):
makes the federal government a bit nervous because we're not
a service provider. But I think that the Northern Territory
government has to step up here and listen to what
the community is saying. And you know the fourteen million
that the Prime Minister you know advanced payment to the
(15:39):
Northern Charity government to get the policing that was needed
down here, but also in the top and there's been
substantial money given to the you know, to the Northern
Territory government from the federal government to deal with this issue.
And you know when the legislation went through when the
Northern Charity government lifted the criminal responsibility of those kids
(16:04):
between ten and twelve, there should have been more work
done between the federal government and the Northern Charity to
make sure that we had those safe places or places
of security, secure facilities to be able to take these
young people too.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And Marian has that raising of them and that's why
we're not the problem. Has that raising of the criminal age?
Has that created problems across the Northern Territory because we
haven't made sure that that support is in place.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, look, I think and it's not just the Northern
Territory government's responsibility, you know. You know that you can
point the finger and I think that we also should
have made sure that the funding was on the table
to put these secure facilities in place. I've been calling
for them for some time, for well over a year,
(16:57):
to get the funding to make this happen so that
those ten to twelve year old that you know, police
can't charge, but there are avenues under the Use Justice Act.
Now I've you know, we've had a look at this.
You know, there's a there's a person working in my
(17:17):
office who's got a wealth of knowledge and experience in
the child protection system. We're looking at how do we
how do we navigate the maze that's there and clear
some of those, you know, the layers of bureaucracy that's
preventing the outcomes that we want on the ground. So
(17:40):
we're we're quickly working through that. We'll give that to
the Northern Territory Government, but we'll also provide that to you,
Katie and anyone else. Hopefully we can get that body
of work happening a SAP.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We'd appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We can't continue to have the problems that we're seeing
on the on the streets, whether it's Allie, Catherine, Tenants
and Darwin. Yeah, we can't. Just because Darwen's the major
capital city doesn't mean that there aren't issues there.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yes, spot on, Well, Marion Scrimjaw, we are going to
have to leave it there. I always appreciate your time.
If I don't talk to you before Christmas, Merry Christmas,
and thanks for your time throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
No, and saying to you Katie and your family you
enjoy and stay safe you too.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Thank you
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