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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, it's looking like the Deputy Chief Minister's got some
questions to answer when it comes to shares. This time
the NT Independent running a story about Chancey Paike investing
in a liquor wholesale company that supplies alcohol to Alice
Springs bottle shops. Now, according to the report, the now
Deputy Chief Minister invested in the shares two months before
(00:21):
the Northern Territory Government returned intervention era grog bands on
remote communities to lapse in twenty twenty two. The value
of those shares hasn't been disclosed, but they are in
liquor and food distribution company met Cash and were reportedly
obtained in May twenty twenty two, that is according to
parliamentary disclosure records, and that is since becoming well. He's
(00:45):
now said that since becoming the Deputy he has divested
those shares. According to The Independent, met Cash is registered
as a liquor wholesaler with the NT government, supplying takeaway
grog and groceries to Alice Springs and Darwin through IgA Stool,
including food to remote community shops, while it's subsidiary also
supplies alcohol to Thirsty Camel celebrations and Bottaloa stores in
(01:09):
the Northern Territory and across the country. As we know,
Parliament resumes today, so I caught up with the Opposition
leader Lea Fanocchiaro a little earlier this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Good morning to you, Leah.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Good morning Katie and to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Now, what do you make of this situation that is
indeed breaking this morning that the Deputy Chief Minister will
he's got some questions to answer when it comes to shares.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, this just reinforces that labor are in an integrity crisis.
And despite the previous Chief Minister falling on her sword
over a shared scandal very similar to this, Well, what
we've got is now the Deputy Leader facing the same questions.
And what it highlights to me and I'm sure your
listeners Katie, is that this government clearly has a total
(01:55):
disregard for the rules. They are not operating in an
open and transparent manner as they promised in twenty sixteen,
and they've totally failed to meet him in the expectation Lea.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
According to this report, mister Paig was reportedly the Minister
for Indigenous Essential Services at the time that he acquired
these shares, as well as Minister for a mode housing
in town Camp, which appears to have placed him in
contravention of the Northern Territory Cabinet Code of Conduct, which
forbids ministers from holding shares in any company that may
(02:26):
create a conflict of interest as a result of their
portfolio responsibilities. What action do you think needs to be
taken here?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, he needs to do the right thing and resign,
just like Natasha Files did, and he needs to answer
some serious questions. We've got someone who was sitting in
cabinet now, Chancey Paig has been was very strong at
that time in supporting the end of Stronger Futures and
backed himself into that position. He clearly was a senior
cabinet minister at the time and now he holds the
(02:58):
second highest rank in the Northern Territory government. So you know,
the questions around this include whether or not he disclosed
to the cabinet his conflict or potential conflict of interest.
Was he in those meetings, Was he part of the
decision making because certainly from the outside, Katie, he was
very much strongly supporting the end of Stronger Futures, despite
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the fact that it destroyed people's lives caused crime and
carnage across the territory and was a horrific chapter in
our history.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I mean, at the time, we all know the outcome
of what happened. You know, Alice Springs was in an
absolute crisis in January last year, and many people would
argue that it's still in quite a crisis situation. I mean,
is it fair though, to say that these shares would
have meant then that it was clouding his judgment on
whether or not to extend alcohol restrictions.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But that's exactly why there are rules in place to
govern and protect the community and members of Parliament from
getting in these situations in the first place. And now, Katie,
the reality is people will never know and the cloud
over that decision making creates an integrity void in this government.
It creates uncertainty and it's totally unacceptable. It just doesn't
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meet the pub test or community expectation. And you know,
our new Chief Minister, Eva Lawler is the one who
hands the deputy role. You know, she was also in
cabinet at the time of this decision, and so we
would expect that she would be having a very serious
conversation with him today asking him to do the right
thing and stand down, because how many times can this happen? Katie,
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with this same government.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It seems unbelow.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Will they ever learned that they're not above the rule?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, and the thing is a precedent has now been set.
We've got a situation where the Chief Minister, the then
Chief Minister Natasha files, she didn't disclose those shares. It
was then found out she divested, then there was further
shares and she stood down. So a precedent real has
been set here now from what we can gather, we
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have put in a request to speak to the Attorney General,
to no avail at this point in time. We've been
told it's a very very busy beak week with parliamentary
sittings underway. But I would argue that he needs to
come out and he needs to answer some questions now.
He has issued a statement to us this morning saying
that I have always complied with the Ministerial Code of
Conduct and the Legislative Assembly Disclosure of Interests Act of
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two thousand and eight. The Chief Minister has this morning
announced a review of ministerial conflict of interest controls and
will release the terms of reference today. Since becoming the
Deputy Chief Minister. I have divested all shares. Does that
go far enough? Is the divestment of those shares, in
your opinion, enough.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
No, I don't think it is, and I don't think
it's enough for the community. Again, this is about when
you hold a ministerial portfolio. There are rules around what
type of pecuniary interest you can have. Those rules are
very clearly set out. And the fact that he's now
the deputy there's no difference on whether or not he
held those shares. It was his conduct as a minister
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and the holding of shares as a minister. And again
this idea that they can have total disregard for the rules,
they're above the rules, and it just doesn't meet any
community standard. It's not the behavior we want to see
of a government. It creates uncertainty, It undermines the decision
making of this government. Yet again, Katie, and again it's
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not the first time, it's not the second time. So
we're seeing a pattern of behavior and you know, we're
calling on evil Laula to do the right thing here
and make Chancy fallen. He saught as well. This is
just an absolute disgrace. We're six months out from an election,
and quite frankly hollow promises from her around reviewing code
(06:54):
of conduct is too little, too late. What we're talking
about is behavior that's already taken place.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Look, I will go into some further detail about exactly
what they have announced, this complete review of Ministerial code
of interest controls. I'll take our listeners through that a
little bit later this morning. But Lea, can you guarantee
that the members on your team do not have any
conflicts of interest and do not hold shares in any
you know, any companies or anything really that is.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Going to put you guys in this same situation.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yep. The Ministerial Code of Conduct is very clear. My
team are very much across all of the details around that.
If we're successful in August, we can guarantee total compliance.
We've already completely aligned ourselves to be ready to govern
in that respect. So there is no issue on the
CLP benches on this, Katie, none whatsoever. What we've got
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is a government continuing to be caught out and this
behavior is just I mean, people would just be shaking
their heads this morning saying, well, who's next, what's next
to come? You know, they the level of dissent within
this team that we have governing the territory is profound.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So Leah, you can guarantee to our listeners this morning
that none of the members of your team have shares
in anything that's going to come back and bite them
at any point, you know, over any of your policies
or anything that you're putting into place before the election.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yep, that's right, Katie. Everything is organized on our side,
and of course the Minister of Credit Conduct will apply
to us, just like it applies to Labor will apply
to us if we win, and I can assure Territorians
there will be no issues on this side.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So today we know that parliament resumes in the Northern
Territory and for the first time, of course, it is
for twenty twenty four, and it's with Evil Lawler as
the new Chief Minister. This certainly isn't a good start
for her and for her leadership. I'm assuming that this
is certainly going to be on the colp's agenda today.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, absolutely, Katie. It's on the agenda along with a
lot of other failure of this government. We've also put
a matter of public importance forward around this government's failures
to properly build resilience into the territories road capacity, rail capacity,
flood response, because for the second year in a row
we've seen total carnage with washouts on the Stuart Highway,
(09:19):
flooding impacting accessibility, groceries not on shelves, town's being isolated
and left to fem for themselves. So we're very concerned,
particularly you know, it is the wet season, we continue
to face monsoon and we feel that this is a
very important issue to tens of thousands of people across
the territory. So we will also be prosecuting that today.
(09:41):
But unfortunately today from labor we're seeing largely puff. This
is Eva Laula following the steps of her predecessors. We've
had three Chief Ministers in three years and she's following
the same hymn sheet with talking about herself all day.
So well, legislation today just Iva Lala talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, yesterday she planned.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yesterday she did, indeed deliver the year a head speech.
She outlined her vision for the Northern Territory. What did
you make of.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That hollow, empty promises for six months to go? I
mean I was actually enraged, Katie. If I can be
honest she said they were going I was serious when
she said that they are going to do a review
of the Youth Justice Act. I just felt like that
was the greatest kick in the guts to Territorians, to
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the two hundred and twenty thousand people who've been victims
of crime, to everyone who wants to be safe on
their home, in their business and in their streets. I mean,
it is this government that destroyed the Youth Justice Act
in the first place. Is this government that took away
strengthened bow laws. It took away power for police, It
took away consequences for youth offenders, and people have suffered,
(10:51):
people have died, people will remain permanently shuttered by things
that have happened in this period, and now they have
the goal to call a review. I just think it's reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Lia she said yesterday, I've heard from Territorians in the
two months that I've been the Chief Minister that people
aren't happy with what's going on with young people in
the Northern Territory.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Sounds like you don't buy that at.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
All, Absolutely not. And this review is going to take
six months, so more people have to suffer at the
hands of a system that's broken and being broken by
Labor and then it will be the election. And this
is in stark contrast to the CLP, Katie. We don't
need a review to tell us that Labour's Youth Justice
Act is broken. What we need is to give police
(11:36):
greater powers, which is exactly what clpeople do. It is
to lower the age of criminal responsibility, to make sure
young people and their parents are held accountable. Is about
strengthening bail so that people who are a risk of
the community should not be let free on our streets.
It is about making sure that the rights of people
to be safe is put above all else. Katie lid.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It does sound mental of some of the announcements that
you know, like some of the changes I should say
that the Labor government has made were as a result
of the Royal Commission, as we know that happened a
number of years ago. It sounds like you are prepared
to throw that Royal Commission and its findings out the window.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah. What we're prepared to do is put the rights
of people to be safe above everything else, including a
Royal Commission, Katie. And I'm not afraid to say that.
Whereas Labor is and the problem with her so called
review into the Use Justice Act is this is smoke
and mirrors to make it look like they're going to
do something before the election. But what we know is
that this government is blinded by ideology. They cannot bring
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themselves to make the tough decisions around young people needing
to have faced serious consequences for their offending and hold
their parents accountable. And so what we've got is is
been coming from a government six months ago to an
election and I can tell Territorians they have no appetite
for change. We have put legislation up to legislation in
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the Parliament to put make people safe, give please for
more power, and this Labour team have voted us down
every single time. Do not believe for a second listener
that after the election they will make any meaningful change
to drive down crime. The only way to make the
territory safe is to vote z lp LEA.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That sounds like an election pitch to me, but look
stepping away from that for a while and it is well,
we're going to and our listeners are very aware of
those critical issues as I know that, you know they
call in about this every single day. You know the
issue of crime and personal safety is pretty heartbreaking stuff.
Some of the harrowing stories that we have heard over
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recent you know, over recent months and years.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
But one thing I do want to just very quickly
ask you about.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It was actually something that Maray Claire Boothby had mentioned
on the week that was on Friday, and it's something
that a lot of our listeners still are quite passionate about,
and that is those solar feeding tariffs. Now we know
that last week the all the territory government was really
spooking the fact that they've got quite a high uptake
of batteries.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But I know that back at the time.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
When those feed in tariffs had changed, you'd made a
commitment that you would not make those changes as extensive
or as.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Big I guess as what Labor had.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
What exactly is the CLP's policy on this as we
lead into the election.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, absolutely, Katie, no worries. It's a great one because
this goes straight to the heart of cost of living
and so Eva Laula is the minister who slashes feed
in tariff. She then told people maybe grandfathered on the
old system, only for a year later to say oh sorry,
trick you and take people off the grandfathering of the
higher rate.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So what are you guys going to drop for?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I can tell you. So the CLP came out at
that time and it's still our commitment to take to
this election is that we would double the feed in
tariff for territory in who have rooftop solar during those
peak periods, and we will also double the battery bonus
because what we want to do is get people really
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benefiting from their rooftop solar. So if we can get
people buying decent sized batteries subsidized course by the government,
we can basically help Territorians get off the grid. That
means they'll be using their own solar that they store
up during the day during those evening periods, the busy
cooking period Katie, and of course you know in those mornings.
(15:28):
So it's a really exciting point of difference for us
between labor and the COLP. It goes to the harder
cost of living, but also incentivizing people to continue to
invest in rooftop solar, which is something we really want
to support and we know Territorians love it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Leah, have you costed a how much is it going
to cost Territorians to do this.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
So what we have done is said that that I
think it was twelve million dollars Government proposed to save
from their cuts to the scheme, we would reinvest twelve
million dollars into our scheme, so there's no additional burden
on the budget, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean one of the criticisms we are getting of
the COLP at the moment, and you and I will
be able to discuss this in the weeks and months
to come, but one of them is that there seems
to be quite a few announcements starting to come through
with a monetary value attached and people wondering how are
you're going to afford it? So that is something that
we'll focus on in the coming weeks and months. But
for this morning, Lear, I know that obviously it's going
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to be a busy day with Parliament. We appreciate your time.
We will talk to you again very soon.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Thank you, and take care everyone.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Thank you.
Well, it's looking like the Deputy Chief Minister's got some
questions to answer when it comes to shares. This time
the NT Independent running a story about Chancey Paike investing
in a liquor wholesale company that supplies alcohol to Alice
Springs bottle shops. Now, according to the report, the now
Deputy Chief Minister invested in the shares two months before
(00:21):
the Northern Territory Government returned intervention era grog bands on
remote communities to lapse in twenty twenty two. The value
of those shares hasn't been disclosed, but they are in
liquor and food distribution company met Cash and were reportedly
obtained in May twenty twenty two, that is according to
parliamentary disclosure records, and that is since becoming well. He's
(00:45):
now said that since becoming the Deputy he has divested
those shares. According to The Independent, met Cash is registered
as a liquor wholesaler with the NT government, supplying takeaway
grog and groceries to Alice Springs and Darwin through IgA Stool,
including food to remote community shops, while it's subsidiary also
supplies alcohol to Thirsty Camel celebrations and Bottaloa stores in
(01:09):
the Northern Territory and across the country. As we know,
Parliament resumes today, so I caught up with the Opposition
leader Lea Fanocchiaro a little earlier this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Good morning to you, Leah.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Good morning Katie and to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Now, what do you make of this situation that is
indeed breaking this morning that the Deputy Chief Minister will
he's got some questions to answer when it comes to shares.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, this just reinforces that labor are in an integrity crisis.
And despite the previous Chief Minister falling on her sword
over a shared scandal very similar to this, Well, what
we've got is now the Deputy Leader facing the same questions.
And what it highlights to me and I'm sure your
listeners Katie, is that this government clearly has a total
(01:55):
disregard for the rules. They are not operating in an
open and transparent manner as they promised in twenty sixteen,
and they've totally failed to meet him in the expectation Lea.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
According to this report, mister Paig was reportedly the Minister
for Indigenous Essential Services at the time that he acquired
these shares, as well as Minister for a mode housing
in town Camp, which appears to have placed him in
contravention of the Northern Territory Cabinet Code of Conduct, which
forbids ministers from holding shares in any company that may
(02:26):
create a conflict of interest as a result of their
portfolio responsibilities. What action do you think needs to be
taken here?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, he needs to do the right thing and resign,
just like Natasha Files did, and he needs to answer
some serious questions. We've got someone who was sitting in
cabinet now, Chancey Paig has been was very strong at
that time in supporting the end of Stronger Futures and
backed himself into that position. He clearly was a senior
cabinet minister at the time and now he holds the
(02:58):
second highest rank in the Northern Territory government. So you know,
the questions around this include whether or not he disclosed
to the cabinet his conflict or potential conflict of interest.
Was he in those meetings, Was he part of the
decision making because certainly from the outside, Katie, he was
very much strongly supporting the end of Stronger Futures, despite
(03:21):
the fact that it destroyed people's lives caused crime and
carnage across the territory and was a horrific chapter in
our history.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I mean, at the time, we all know the outcome
of what happened. You know, Alice Springs was in an
absolute crisis in January last year, and many people would
argue that it's still in quite a crisis situation. I mean,
is it fair though, to say that these shares would
have meant then that it was clouding his judgment on
whether or not to extend alcohol restrictions.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But that's exactly why there are rules in place to
govern and protect the community and members of Parliament from
getting in these situations in the first place. And now, Katie,
the reality is people will never know and the cloud
over that decision making creates an integrity void in this government.
It creates uncertainty and it's totally unacceptable. It just doesn't
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meet the pub test or community expectation. And you know,
our new Chief Minister, Eva Lawler is the one who
hands the deputy role. You know, she was also in
cabinet at the time of this decision, and so we
would expect that she would be having a very serious
conversation with him today asking him to do the right
thing and stand down, because how many times can this happen? Katie,
(04:39):
with this same government.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It seems unbelow.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Will they ever learned that they're not above the rule?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, and the thing is a precedent has now been set.
We've got a situation where the Chief Minister, the then
Chief Minister Natasha files, she didn't disclose those shares. It
was then found out she divested, then there was further
shares and she stood down. So a precedent real has
been set here now from what we can gather, we
(05:04):
have put in a request to speak to the Attorney General,
to no avail at this point in time. We've been
told it's a very very busy beak week with parliamentary
sittings underway. But I would argue that he needs to
come out and he needs to answer some questions now.
He has issued a statement to us this morning saying
that I have always complied with the Ministerial Code of
Conduct and the Legislative Assembly Disclosure of Interests Act of
(05:28):
two thousand and eight. The Chief Minister has this morning
announced a review of ministerial conflict of interest controls and
will release the terms of reference today. Since becoming the
Deputy Chief Minister. I have divested all shares. Does that
go far enough? Is the divestment of those shares, in
your opinion, enough.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
No, I don't think it is, and I don't think
it's enough for the community. Again, this is about when
you hold a ministerial portfolio. There are rules around what
type of pecuniary interest you can have. Those rules are
very clearly set out. And the fact that he's now
the deputy there's no difference on whether or not he
held those shares. It was his conduct as a minister
(06:11):
and the holding of shares as a minister. And again
this idea that they can have total disregard for the rules,
they're above the rules, and it just doesn't meet any
community standard. It's not the behavior we want to see
of a government. It creates uncertainty, It undermines the decision
making of this government. Yet again, Katie, and again it's
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not the first time, it's not the second time. So
we're seeing a pattern of behavior and you know, we're
calling on evil Laula to do the right thing here
and make Chancy fallen. He saught as well. This is
just an absolute disgrace. We're six months out from an election,
and quite frankly hollow promises from her around reviewing code
(06:54):
of conduct is too little, too late. What we're talking
about is behavior that's already taken place.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Look, I will go into some further detail about exactly
what they have announced, this complete review of Ministerial code
of interest controls. I'll take our listeners through that a
little bit later this morning. But Lea, can you guarantee
that the members on your team do not have any
conflicts of interest and do not hold shares in any
you know, any companies or anything really that is.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Going to put you guys in this same situation.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yep. The Ministerial Code of Conduct is very clear. My
team are very much across all of the details around that.
If we're successful in August, we can guarantee total compliance.
We've already completely aligned ourselves to be ready to govern
in that respect. So there is no issue on the
CLP benches on this, Katie, none whatsoever. What we've got
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is a government continuing to be caught out and this
behavior is just I mean, people would just be shaking
their heads this morning saying, well, who's next, what's next
to come? You know, they the level of dissent within
this team that we have governing the territory is profound.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So Leah, you can guarantee to our listeners this morning
that none of the members of your team have shares
in anything that's going to come back and bite them
at any point, you know, over any of your policies
or anything that you're putting into place before the election.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yep, that's right, Katie. Everything is organized on our side,
and of course the Minister of Credit Conduct will apply
to us, just like it applies to Labor will apply
to us if we win, and I can assure Territorians
there will be no issues on this side.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So today we know that parliament resumes in the Northern
Territory and for the first time, of course, it is
for twenty twenty four, and it's with Evil Lawler as
the new Chief Minister. This certainly isn't a good start
for her and for her leadership. I'm assuming that this
is certainly going to be on the colp's agenda today.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, absolutely, Katie. It's on the agenda along with a
lot of other failure of this government. We've also put
a matter of public importance forward around this government's failures
to properly build resilience into the territories road capacity, rail capacity,
flood response, because for the second year in a row
we've seen total carnage with washouts on the Stuart Highway,
(09:19):
flooding impacting accessibility, groceries not on shelves, town's being isolated
and left to fem for themselves. So we're very concerned,
particularly you know, it is the wet season, we continue
to face monsoon and we feel that this is a
very important issue to tens of thousands of people across
the territory. So we will also be prosecuting that today.
(09:41):
But unfortunately today from labor we're seeing largely puff. This
is Eva Laula following the steps of her predecessors. We've
had three Chief Ministers in three years and she's following
the same hymn sheet with talking about herself all day.
So well, legislation today just Iva Lala talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, yesterday she planned.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yesterday she did, indeed deliver the year a head speech.
She outlined her vision for the Northern Territory. What did
you make of.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That hollow, empty promises for six months to go? I
mean I was actually enraged, Katie. If I can be
honest she said they were going I was serious when
she said that they are going to do a review
of the Youth Justice Act. I just felt like that
was the greatest kick in the guts to Territorians, to
(10:28):
the two hundred and twenty thousand people who've been victims
of crime, to everyone who wants to be safe on
their home, in their business and in their streets. I mean,
it is this government that destroyed the Youth Justice Act
in the first place. Is this government that took away
strengthened bow laws. It took away power for police, It
took away consequences for youth offenders, and people have suffered,
(10:51):
people have died, people will remain permanently shuttered by things
that have happened in this period, and now they have
the goal to call a review. I just think it's reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Lia she said yesterday, I've heard from Territorians in the
two months that I've been the Chief Minister that people
aren't happy with what's going on with young people in
the Northern Territory.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Sounds like you don't buy that at.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
All, Absolutely not. And this review is going to take
six months, so more people have to suffer at the
hands of a system that's broken and being broken by
Labor and then it will be the election. And this
is in stark contrast to the CLP, Katie. We don't
need a review to tell us that Labour's Youth Justice
Act is broken. What we need is to give police
(11:36):
greater powers, which is exactly what clpeople do. It is
to lower the age of criminal responsibility, to make sure
young people and their parents are held accountable. Is about
strengthening bail so that people who are a risk of
the community should not be let free on our streets.
It is about making sure that the rights of people
to be safe is put above all else. Katie lid.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It does sound mental of some of the announcements that
you know, like some of the changes I should say
that the Labor government has made were as a result
of the Royal Commission, as we know that happened a
number of years ago. It sounds like you are prepared
to throw that Royal Commission and its findings out the window.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah. What we're prepared to do is put the rights
of people to be safe above everything else, including a
Royal Commission, Katie. And I'm not afraid to say that.
Whereas Labor is and the problem with her so called
review into the Use Justice Act is this is smoke
and mirrors to make it look like they're going to
do something before the election. But what we know is
that this government is blinded by ideology. They cannot bring
(12:38):
themselves to make the tough decisions around young people needing
to have faced serious consequences for their offending and hold
their parents accountable. And so what we've got is is
been coming from a government six months ago to an
election and I can tell Territorians they have no appetite
for change. We have put legislation up to legislation in
(13:00):
the Parliament to put make people safe, give please for
more power, and this Labour team have voted us down
every single time. Do not believe for a second listener
that after the election they will make any meaningful change
to drive down crime. The only way to make the
territory safe is to vote z lp LEA.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That sounds like an election pitch to me, but look
stepping away from that for a while and it is well,
we're going to and our listeners are very aware of
those critical issues as I know that, you know they
call in about this every single day. You know the
issue of crime and personal safety is pretty heartbreaking stuff.
Some of the harrowing stories that we have heard over
(13:40):
recent you know, over recent months and years.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
But one thing I do want to just very quickly
ask you about.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It was actually something that Maray Claire Boothby had mentioned
on the week that was on Friday, and it's something
that a lot of our listeners still are quite passionate about,
and that is those solar feeding tariffs. Now we know
that last week the all the territory government was really
spooking the fact that they've got quite a high uptake
of batteries.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But I know that back at the time.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
When those feed in tariffs had changed, you'd made a
commitment that you would not make those changes as extensive
or as.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Big I guess as what Labor had.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
What exactly is the CLP's policy on this as we
lead into the election.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, absolutely, Katie, no worries. It's a great one because
this goes straight to the heart of cost of living
and so Eva Laula is the minister who slashes feed
in tariff. She then told people maybe grandfathered on the
old system, only for a year later to say oh sorry,
trick you and take people off the grandfathering of the
higher rate.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So what are you guys going to drop for?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I can tell you. So the CLP came out at
that time and it's still our commitment to take to
this election is that we would double the feed in
tariff for territory in who have rooftop solar during those
peak periods, and we will also double the battery bonus
because what we want to do is get people really
(15:05):
benefiting from their rooftop solar. So if we can get
people buying decent sized batteries subsidized course by the government,
we can basically help Territorians get off the grid. That
means they'll be using their own solar that they store
up during the day during those evening periods, the busy
cooking period Katie, and of course you know in those mornings.
(15:28):
So it's a really exciting point of difference for us
between labor and the COLP. It goes to the harder
cost of living, but also incentivizing people to continue to
invest in rooftop solar, which is something we really want
to support and we know Territorians love it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Leah, have you costed a how much is it going
to cost Territorians to do this.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
So what we have done is said that that I
think it was twelve million dollars Government proposed to save
from their cuts to the scheme, we would reinvest twelve
million dollars into our scheme, so there's no additional burden
on the budget, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean one of the criticisms we are getting of
the COLP at the moment, and you and I will
be able to discuss this in the weeks and months
to come, but one of them is that there seems
to be quite a few announcements starting to come through
with a monetary value attached and people wondering how are
you're going to afford it? So that is something that
we'll focus on in the coming weeks and months. But
for this morning, Lear, I know that obviously it's going
(16:28):
to be a busy day with Parliament. We appreciate your time.
We will talk to you again very soon.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Thank you, and take care everyone.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Thank you.
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