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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Late last week, it was revealed the colp's member for Braitling,
Josh Burgoyne, had been involved in a crash in Alice Springs.
Now yesterday, Josh Burgoyne issued a statement confirming he and
his wife were involved in that crash in August. He
said police, fires and ambulance attended the scene at that time.
He claims he was told those taken to hospital were
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as a matter of precaution. Now, since then, mister Burgoyne
said he had not heard anything further about that accident
and no reason had no reason to believe that there'd
be any actions taken. Last week he was called by
police though, indicating that he'd likely be charged in relation
to the accident. Yesterday, he was charged with careless striving
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causing serious harm under the Traffic Act. Now, the opposition
leader Leafanocchiaro joins me in the studio. Good morning to you, Leah, Good.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Morning Katie, and good morning listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now, Leah, when did you first become aware of the incident?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, So, in August last year, Josh was involved in
a motor vehicle accident in his private vehicle with his wife,
who was thirty eight weeks pregnant. At the time, So
you know he told me about that. My immediate concern,
of course, as any territory in receiving that call, would
be for the welfare of everyone involved. And you know,
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at that time Josh had no reason to believe anything.
As his statement said, he was told it was a
precaution to take people to hospital. So time passes on,
seven months goes by, and of course then last week
he's rung during parliament saying, oh, you know you're likely
to be charged, and so fast forward to fright yesterday
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he was only charged yesterday. So as soon as that
information came to light, because of course Josh didn't have
the information, he then made a public statement because you know,
that's absolutely the right thing to do. That's what he's done,
and it's clearly before the courts now and so people
will be kept up to date as that progresses.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So why at the time when they accident happened, I mean,
this is the question that's beening asked. Why at the
time when that accident happened, didn't you or Josh come
out and say I was involved in an accident. People
were taken away I'm told as a precautionary measure, you know,
I hope that they are okay and you know, be
really open and upfront about it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And that's a good question, and some people might think that,
but ultimately, really what would I have said? This is
a politicians of people too. He was involved in a
traffic accident. It's something happy that happens to people every
single day, and the public interest really arises upon it
becoming a matter that is looked at by the police
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and of course then by the courts. So you know,
I'm happy to take criticism from people if they felt
that that should have been I don't know, notified at
the time, but ultimately I don't agree. I think the
real important point was that when there's information to give,
which of course is the facts around the child, that
that information is given. And that's exactly what Josh did yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
One of the things that I have noticed over the
last couple of days from the COLP is with the
statement that Josh has provided and also with the one
that you provided on Friday, is that you do keep
referring to this as an accident. But the point is
here that from those charges being laid, there has been
rules broken, the law has been broken, and our road
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toll is incredibly serious. Our road toll is actually horrendous
here in the Northern Territory, So that language is really
minimizing what's gone on in a lot of people's opinions.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, I'd have to disagree with that, Katie. Of course,
you know, there have been terrible incidences on our roads
and our statistics prove that. But ultimately, if Josh had
no information at the time, realistically.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So despite the other people being taken away in the ambulance,
there was no follow up from him. He didn't think, oh,
I'm might actually call the police to see if those
people are okay, you know, he didn't sort of think
anything more of it, didn't think to contact the police.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Again, I think that would be a confidentiality issue. I mean,
you obviously have other people involved. That would be their
private medical information.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
They're not going to give you that medical information. But
if there has been a serious incident that you've been
involved in where people have then been taken away in
the ambulance, like human nature or certainly my human nature
would be gee, I hope they're okay well, of course,
and I'm confident that Josh was concerned for their welfare,
but he had no reason to believe otherwise, And of
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course it's taken seven.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Months for police to come around and charge. They've now
done that. We respect the work that our police have done,
and we respect the course court process that is to come.
I mean, there's no question that that's going to run
its course and the community will be updated as it
goes along.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So just to confirm, are you saying that he did
not know anything more about the incident to gain until
last week?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
He heard from police last week literally and they didn't
he didn't know what the charges were. So yesterday was
the first time he got those charges and so now
he knows. He came out straight away and told people,
and that will run its course. Henty, was his car
in the police compound though for that whole time? Or
was his car in the police compound? That's what sources
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have said that it was, And I'm happy to be corrected.
I have no idea. You would have to ask Josh.
I've got no idea about that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, I guess the problem is we can't. We can't
ask him anything. And that's the whole point at this
point in time. You know, there was a press conference,
Yes today, Yes, he's come out with a statement, but
he's not. Actually, he's not come out and answered questions.
So that's where that speculation starts to mount.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I think the reality is, what are we talking
about here now.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
This we're talking about openness and transparency, But to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know, what is the objective here? Now? Whether his
car was in the compound or not, I don't know,
does that materially change anything? I don't know either, Cad.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean, I suppose The point that's definitely worth making
is last week you guys were screaming at the government
to be open and transparent, but now you're not doing
the same yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well that's a great that's a great question that you've asked.
So what we've got is a desperate labor government doing
anything it can to deflect from the fact that last
week they've been yet again embroiled in a shares scandal.
Now Chancey, Paike, the Attorney General, and Evil all of
the Chief Minister have been unable to explain to the
community how he managed his conflict of interest. What's extraordinary,
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Katie is come Friday we had the Police Minister of
all people coming out attacking Josh making all sorts of
comments about charges that hadn't even been laid yet, and
it seemed that he knew a lot of information and
that is entirely inappropriate as the police minister. So to me,
this reeks of desperate distraction politics from a government that
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still hasn't dealt with the issues of lave So do you.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Think this is like a concoction from the governmental Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think they are jumping on this and to distract
from their own problems, distract from their own integrity crisis.
And I'm glad that Robin Lamley has referred Brent Potter
to the eye Kak. I think that's exactly where he
should be answering questions around his comments in an active
police investigation. I mean, the charges hadn't even been laid yet, Katie.
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It really is extraordinary. But can I just say, we
are focused on the job at hand. We must hold
this terrible government to account. We must provide alternative policies
and solutions for a safe and strong territory and that's.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Going to be able to focus on the job at hand,
though while he has got this court case now lingering
over him.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Without question, Josh is an incredible local member of Parliament.
He is so passionate about Alice Springs. He was born there.
He just loves that place with every breath in his
body and he will continue to fight. I mean, you
just have to look at the front page of the
Australian today, Kate to know that people in Alice Springs
are desperate for change and to be heard and for action,
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and Josh will continue to be an exceptional local member.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The member has now been charged though, with careless striving
causing serious harm. And I understand that people are innocent
until proven guilty, but the fact is this was going
to come out. You now have a shadow minister potentially
facing what he is facing criminal charges. So is mister
Burgogne going to be able to stay in that shadow role?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean it is going to.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Be hanging over your heads now.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, he will go through this process and that's just
something that will happen. He will go through the process.
But it doesn't impact at all on his ability to
represent the people of Braileink to fight for a safer territory.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
There's an impact on his ability though to say that
he is open and transparent.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Absolutely not. He literally got charged yesterday and walked straight
out and did a press conference detailing, and I mean,
let's not forget this is all being confused by a
government desperate But.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
The fact is he has been involved in an incident.
And I totally agree that the situation between the Attorney
General and the shares fiasco is a very different one
to what the Shadow Minister is now facing. I one
hundred percent agree with that they're very different scenarios. But
if we are going to hold a government to account,
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well we've got a hold an alternate Chief Minister to
account as well. And you know, you've really got to
be able to tell territorians how they can trust that
a COLP government is going to be open and transparent
when for six months there was nothing said about this
about this crash. And again I understand that, you know,
from Josh's perspective, he's heard nothing from the police. But
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some out there listening are going to be thinking, well,
hang on a second. You're all too quick to call
on members of the government to you know, to resign
or to stand down when they do something wrong, but
you guys aren't prepared to face the same criticism.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think that's not the case in this situationally different. Well,
for example, labor have just promoted a member of their
team who was involved in a car accident that resulted
in someone's death.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That's a historical case that went through court though, so
it is quite different.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's right. But our job is to hold the government
to account. We equally can be held to account. But
I've just outlined for your listeners what has happened, and
I think people expect us to be talking about the bigger,
more important issues now. Chancey Paate buying shares while he
was a minister and then failing to explain how he
managed that conflict in cabinet is a very serious issue. Now.
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That's not to minimize or take away from whatever the
court process will be going forward, but nothing is stopping
us to continue to do the important work ahead of us.
We are so very focused, Katie, on talking about the
issues important to territorians. I've not had one person raise
this issue with me. I don't believe it's a I'm
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very happy to accept criticism about not notifying people in August,
but again I go back to the point of you know,
what point does that become in the public interest, certainly
upon being which is what.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
We've done, At what point does it become the public
interest because there's been two people injured. So is it
if there is a fatality, At what point, in your opinion,
does it become public interests that a member should be
open and transparent.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, at that time it was a traffic accident and
there was no more information about that. At this point
in time, there have been charges laid and that's immediately
been made open to the community. So Josh fronted up
yesterday and absolutely made that statement. So again, we're focused
on the future. We believe strongly in the territory. Our
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entire team is behind Josh and our mission, and our
mission is to change the government. We have to save
the territory. The economy is going backwards, cost of living
is destroying people's lives, and so is crime, and that's
our focus, Katie.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So at this point in time, you're not going to
Josh Bergown is not going to stand down wild court
proceedings take place.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, No, that won't be the case, and I think
that would be really irresponsible. Why should the people in
Brackley not have representation during that period. I mean democracy
is very important principle to uphold and Josh is an
absolute fighter for his community, as is all of my team,
and that's why we're so focused, Katie, and we're not
going to let Labor try and distract people from.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The distraction though that you guys are calling out the
fact that crime's the biggest issue in the Northern Territory
right now, and it is, there's no doubt about that.
While you've got a member of your team facing criminal charges, I.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Don't see anything that stops any of us from pursuing
a safer territory. That's what we all want. That's why
our policies are very focused in that space, because we
cannot grow our economy, we cannot drive down cost of
living if our community isn't safe. So that remains our priority.
Yet to really be able to explain their vision for
the territory, because all people know is for the last
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eight years we have suffered and things have continued to
gone backwards, and our focus is about bringing the territory forwards.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Leah, Just finally, will there be any action now from
you as the alternative Chief Minister or is this it?
A member of your team can face criminal charges and
stay in their position, but you will continue to call
on those Labor Party members to resign over what you
deem as integrity issues.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think everything has to be taken in the context
of what it is right. There's no blanket way of
doing anything. So in this situation, Josh has come forward
upon the charges and now that court process needs to
take its place. We fully support Josh. We will continue
to fight for a safe and strong territory. We know
the territory's best days are ahead of us. And while
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people like the Police Minister and Labor want to distract
from their failures and their integrity crisis, we are solely
focused on the future.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You did touch on earlier the fact that you said
Robin Lamley has referred this now to the ICA Commissioner.
So do you feel as though the police have been
used to some sort of pawn in this situation.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Well, I certainly found it extraordinary that out of all
of the members in their team, Labor would roll out
the Police Minister, particularly given if we'd made it very
clear that no charges had been laid, so he would
have known that because we said that, he was making
all kinds of public comments on your show and insinuations,
which is entirely inappropriate. And if I was a police
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officer listening to the police minister talk about an active
investigation like that, I would seriously question his ability to
do his job. I mean I found it extraordinary, and
clearly so did the Member for Ara Lewin, which is
why she's referred it to IK.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
A very quick one. Leah Russell's just message through. He said,
good morning, Katie. Can you please ask the leader of
the opposition whether she thinks that the current issues regarding shares,
motivehicle accident are damaging to both Labor and the COLP.
I'm not interested in defending or accusing these but in
general how the public perception of both major parties are
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damaged by both.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh, I think people will make their own minds up. Certainly,
it's this is not an issue that people have raised
with me, whereas the share scandal absolutely is. And of
course there's a long list of behavior from Labor around
this failure to manage conflicts of interest share issues. But
you know, Russell, you like every other territory, will make
up your own mind. My job is to make sure
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you understand what life looks like under a future CLP
government and that you will be safer. Our economy will
be growing and cost of living will be driven down.
And ultimately, if we're given that opportunity to govern, people
would judge us on our actions.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right, Leah, we are going to have to leave
it there. Appreciate your time this morning. As always, thank
you
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Thank you, Take care everyone,
Late last week, it was revealed the colp's member for Braitling,
Josh Burgoyne, had been involved in a crash in Alice Springs.
Now yesterday, Josh Burgoyne issued a statement confirming he and
his wife were involved in that crash in August. He
said police, fires and ambulance attended the scene at that time.
He claims he was told those taken to hospital were
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as a matter of precaution. Now, since then, mister Burgoyne
said he had not heard anything further about that accident
and no reason had no reason to believe that there'd
be any actions taken. Last week he was called by
police though, indicating that he'd likely be charged in relation
to the accident. Yesterday, he was charged with careless striving
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causing serious harm under the Traffic Act. Now, the opposition
leader Leafanocchiaro joins me in the studio. Good morning to you, Leah, Good.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Morning Katie, and good morning listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now, Leah, when did you first become aware of the incident?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, So, in August last year, Josh was involved in
a motor vehicle accident in his private vehicle with his wife,
who was thirty eight weeks pregnant. At the time, So
you know he told me about that. My immediate concern,
of course, as any territory in receiving that call, would
be for the welfare of everyone involved. And you know,
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at that time Josh had no reason to believe anything.
As his statement said, he was told it was a
precaution to take people to hospital. So time passes on,
seven months goes by, and of course then last week
he's rung during parliament saying, oh, you know you're likely
to be charged, and so fast forward to fright yesterday
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he was only charged yesterday. So as soon as that
information came to light, because of course Josh didn't have
the information, he then made a public statement because you know,
that's absolutely the right thing to do. That's what he's done,
and it's clearly before the courts now and so people
will be kept up to date as that progresses.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So why at the time when they accident happened, I mean,
this is the question that's beening asked. Why at the
time when that accident happened, didn't you or Josh come
out and say I was involved in an accident. People
were taken away I'm told as a precautionary measure, you know,
I hope that they are okay and you know, be
really open and upfront about it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
And that's a good question, and some people might think that,
but ultimately, really what would I have said? This is
a politicians of people too. He was involved in a
traffic accident. It's something happy that happens to people every
single day, and the public interest really arises upon it
becoming a matter that is looked at by the police
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and of course then by the courts. So you know,
I'm happy to take criticism from people if they felt
that that should have been I don't know, notified at
the time, but ultimately I don't agree. I think the
real important point was that when there's information to give,
which of course is the facts around the child, that
that information is given. And that's exactly what Josh did yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
One of the things that I have noticed over the
last couple of days from the COLP is with the
statement that Josh has provided and also with the one
that you provided on Friday, is that you do keep
referring to this as an accident. But the point is
here that from those charges being laid, there has been
rules broken, the law has been broken, and our road
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toll is incredibly serious. Our road toll is actually horrendous
here in the Northern Territory, So that language is really
minimizing what's gone on in a lot of people's opinions.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, I'd have to disagree with that, Katie. Of course,
you know, there have been terrible incidences on our roads
and our statistics prove that. But ultimately, if Josh had
no information at the time, realistically.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So despite the other people being taken away in the ambulance,
there was no follow up from him. He didn't think, oh,
I'm might actually call the police to see if those
people are okay, you know, he didn't sort of think
anything more of it, didn't think to contact the police.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Again, I think that would be a confidentiality issue. I mean,
you obviously have other people involved. That would be their
private medical information.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
They're not going to give you that medical information. But
if there has been a serious incident that you've been
involved in where people have then been taken away in
the ambulance, like human nature or certainly my human nature
would be gee, I hope they're okay well, of course,
and I'm confident that Josh was concerned for their welfare,
but he had no reason to believe otherwise, And of
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course it's taken seven.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Months for police to come around and charge. They've now
done that. We respect the work that our police have done,
and we respect the course court process that is to come.
I mean, there's no question that that's going to run
its course and the community will be updated as it
goes along.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So just to confirm, are you saying that he did
not know anything more about the incident to gain until
last week?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
He heard from police last week literally and they didn't
he didn't know what the charges were. So yesterday was
the first time he got those charges and so now
he knows. He came out straight away and told people,
and that will run its course. Henty, was his car
in the police compound though for that whole time? Or
was his car in the police compound? That's what sources
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have said that it was, And I'm happy to be corrected.
I have no idea. You would have to ask Josh.
I've got no idea about that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, I guess the problem is we can't. We can't
ask him anything. And that's the whole point at this
point in time. You know, there was a press conference,
Yes today, Yes, he's come out with a statement, but
he's not. Actually, he's not come out and answered questions.
So that's where that speculation starts to mount.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I think the reality is, what are we talking
about here now.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
This we're talking about openness and transparency, But to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know, what is the objective here? Now? Whether his
car was in the compound or not, I don't know,
does that materially change anything? I don't know either, Cad.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean, I suppose The point that's definitely worth making
is last week you guys were screaming at the government
to be open and transparent, but now you're not doing
the same yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well that's a great that's a great question that you've asked.
So what we've got is a desperate labor government doing
anything it can to deflect from the fact that last
week they've been yet again embroiled in a shares scandal.
Now Chancey, Paike, the Attorney General, and Evil all of
the Chief Minister have been unable to explain to the
community how he managed his conflict of interest. What's extraordinary,
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Katie is come Friday we had the Police Minister of
all people coming out attacking Josh making all sorts of
comments about charges that hadn't even been laid yet, and
it seemed that he knew a lot of information and
that is entirely inappropriate as the police minister. So to me,
this reeks of desperate distraction politics from a government that
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still hasn't dealt with the issues of lave So do you.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Think this is like a concoction from the governmental Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think they are jumping on this and to distract
from their own problems, distract from their own integrity crisis.
And I'm glad that Robin Lamley has referred Brent Potter
to the eye Kak. I think that's exactly where he
should be answering questions around his comments in an active
police investigation. I mean, the charges hadn't even been laid yet, Katie.
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It really is extraordinary. But can I just say, we
are focused on the job at hand. We must hold
this terrible government to account. We must provide alternative policies
and solutions for a safe and strong territory and that's.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Going to be able to focus on the job at hand,
though while he has got this court case now lingering
over him.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Without question, Josh is an incredible local member of Parliament.
He is so passionate about Alice Springs. He was born there.
He just loves that place with every breath in his
body and he will continue to fight. I mean, you
just have to look at the front page of the
Australian today, Kate to know that people in Alice Springs
are desperate for change and to be heard and for action,
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and Josh will continue to be an exceptional local member.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The member has now been charged though, with careless striving
causing serious harm. And I understand that people are innocent
until proven guilty, but the fact is this was going
to come out. You now have a shadow minister potentially
facing what he is facing criminal charges. So is mister
Burgogne going to be able to stay in that shadow role?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean it is going to.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Be hanging over your heads now.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, he will go through this process and that's just
something that will happen. He will go through the process.
But it doesn't impact at all on his ability to
represent the people of Braileink to fight for a safer territory.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
There's an impact on his ability though to say that
he is open and transparent.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Absolutely not. He literally got charged yesterday and walked straight
out and did a press conference detailing, and I mean,
let's not forget this is all being confused by a
government desperate But.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
The fact is he has been involved in an incident.
And I totally agree that the situation between the Attorney
General and the shares fiasco is a very different one
to what the Shadow Minister is now facing. I one
hundred percent agree with that they're very different scenarios. But
if we are going to hold a government to account,
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well we've got a hold an alternate Chief Minister to
account as well. And you know, you've really got to
be able to tell territorians how they can trust that
a COLP government is going to be open and transparent
when for six months there was nothing said about this
about this crash. And again I understand that, you know,
from Josh's perspective, he's heard nothing from the police. But
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some out there listening are going to be thinking, well,
hang on a second. You're all too quick to call
on members of the government to you know, to resign
or to stand down when they do something wrong, but
you guys aren't prepared to face the same criticism.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think that's not the case in this situationally different. Well,
for example, labor have just promoted a member of their
team who was involved in a car accident that resulted
in someone's death.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That's a historical case that went through court though, so
it is quite different.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's right. But our job is to hold the government
to account. We equally can be held to account. But
I've just outlined for your listeners what has happened, and
I think people expect us to be talking about the bigger,
more important issues now. Chancey Paate buying shares while he
was a minister and then failing to explain how he
managed that conflict in cabinet is a very serious issue. Now.
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That's not to minimize or take away from whatever the
court process will be going forward, but nothing is stopping
us to continue to do the important work ahead of us.
We are so very focused, Katie, on talking about the
issues important to territorians. I've not had one person raise
this issue with me. I don't believe it's a I'm
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very happy to accept criticism about not notifying people in August,
but again I go back to the point of you know,
what point does that become in the public interest, certainly
upon being which is what.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
We've done, At what point does it become the public
interest because there's been two people injured. So is it
if there is a fatality, At what point, in your opinion,
does it become public interests that a member should be
open and transparent.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, at that time it was a traffic accident and
there was no more information about that. At this point
in time, there have been charges laid and that's immediately
been made open to the community. So Josh fronted up
yesterday and absolutely made that statement. So again, we're focused
on the future. We believe strongly in the territory. Our
(11:47):
entire team is behind Josh and our mission, and our
mission is to change the government. We have to save
the territory. The economy is going backwards, cost of living
is destroying people's lives, and so is crime, and that's
our focus, Katie.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So at this point in time, you're not going to
Josh Bergown is not going to stand down wild court
proceedings take place.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, No, that won't be the case, and I think
that would be really irresponsible. Why should the people in
Brackley not have representation during that period. I mean democracy
is very important principle to uphold and Josh is an
absolute fighter for his community, as is all of my team,
and that's why we're so focused, Katie, and we're not
going to let Labor try and distract people from.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The distraction though that you guys are calling out the
fact that crime's the biggest issue in the Northern Territory
right now, and it is, there's no doubt about that.
While you've got a member of your team facing criminal charges, I.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Don't see anything that stops any of us from pursuing
a safer territory. That's what we all want. That's why
our policies are very focused in that space, because we
cannot grow our economy, we cannot drive down cost of
living if our community isn't safe. So that remains our priority.
Yet to really be able to explain their vision for
the territory, because all people know is for the last
(13:05):
eight years we have suffered and things have continued to
gone backwards, and our focus is about bringing the territory forwards.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Leah, Just finally, will there be any action now from
you as the alternative Chief Minister or is this it?
A member of your team can face criminal charges and
stay in their position, but you will continue to call
on those Labor Party members to resign over what you
deem as integrity issues.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think everything has to be taken in the context
of what it is right. There's no blanket way of
doing anything. So in this situation, Josh has come forward
upon the charges and now that court process needs to
take its place. We fully support Josh. We will continue
to fight for a safe and strong territory. We know
the territory's best days are ahead of us. And while
(13:50):
people like the Police Minister and Labor want to distract
from their failures and their integrity crisis, we are solely
focused on the future.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You did touch on earlier the fact that you said
Robin Lamley has referred this now to the ICA Commissioner.
So do you feel as though the police have been
used to some sort of pawn in this situation.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Well, I certainly found it extraordinary that out of all
of the members in their team, Labor would roll out
the Police Minister, particularly given if we'd made it very
clear that no charges had been laid, so he would
have known that because we said that, he was making
all kinds of public comments on your show and insinuations,
which is entirely inappropriate. And if I was a police
(14:33):
officer listening to the police minister talk about an active
investigation like that, I would seriously question his ability to
do his job. I mean I found it extraordinary, and
clearly so did the Member for Ara Lewin, which is
why she's referred it to IK.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
A very quick one. Leah Russell's just message through. He said,
good morning, Katie. Can you please ask the leader of
the opposition whether she thinks that the current issues regarding shares,
motivehicle accident are damaging to both Labor and the COLP.
I'm not interested in defending or accusing these but in
general how the public perception of both major parties are
(15:10):
damaged by both.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh, I think people will make their own minds up. Certainly,
it's this is not an issue that people have raised
with me, whereas the share scandal absolutely is. And of
course there's a long list of behavior from Labor around
this failure to manage conflicts of interest share issues. But
you know, Russell, you like every other territory, will make
up your own mind. My job is to make sure
(15:32):
you understand what life looks like under a future CLP
government and that you will be safer. Our economy will
be growing and cost of living will be driven down.
And ultimately, if we're given that opportunity to govern, people
would judge us on our actions.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right, Leah, we are going to have to leave
it there. Appreciate your time this morning. As always, thank
you
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Thank you, Take care everyone,
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