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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining me live on the line right now is the
coop leader, the opposition leader, Leah Finocchiaro.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Leah, Good morning Katie to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Now, Leah, there is quite a bit to cover off
on this morning. I am just going to go across
to apparently this crime series that's occurred, well from yesterday.
I know I had a group of kids try to
snatch my phone from me yesterday in the CBD. They've
then apparently been involved well, it's believed that a group
has been involved in a number of incidents, including two
(00:31):
servo robberies in Darwin, CBD. Police received numerous reports just
after midday yesterday that a group of views allegedly committing
various offenses, including property damage to a hotel. A thirteen
and fourteen year old have been charged with a number
of offenses, including aggravated robbery and possession of a controlled weapon.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Unbelievable, isn't it. I mean, it's sad to think that
we're even speaking about this. It doesn't meet any level
of community expectation of what a thirteen or fourteen year
old should be doing. Their parents are not accountable, apparently
under labor for their actions. And it's the community who
continues to suffer, who continues to change their way of life,
(01:12):
their behavior, just in this desperate attempt to try not
to become a victim of crime. So this is failure
of a proportion we've never seen in the territory before.
It is unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Leah. I'm going to tell you I reckon that it's
not just a thirteen and fourteen year old involved yesterday.
I'm going to call it early and say that I
think that there's a bigger group involved. And I would
go so far as to say I reckon some of
those kids. The one that tried to flog my phone
from me, I would say was ten years old, if
not younger, yep.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And believe there is a long history of crime. Then
you can just go back and look at your program
from last week, Katie, or the week before, where we're
seeing ten year old, eleven year old, twelve year olds,
even younger kids. But that's not really captured by the
data committing these offenses. And of course the gun government
has this commissive attitude young people under labor are untouchable.
(02:05):
They have taken power from our police to be able
to deal with this. They have failed to deliver boot
camp and programs to turn these kids wives around, and
they've found to hold these kids' parents accountable or force
these children to go to school. So of course they're
out on the street destroying other people's lives because this
government is holding not the child or the family accountable
(02:26):
for their actions, Leah, is the community who bear the consequence. Lea.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
This is what Brent Potter, the Minister for Police, had
to say on the show yesterday when I had asked
about the situation that we've seen last week where young
kids were allegedly targeting police in a stolen vehicle.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The legislation is there for a judge to deny a
youth bail and hold them on remand, and it squarely
rests with the judiciary in this instance to start reminding
these youth to teut these bail laws and go against
the judge's direction. Don't continue to regrant them bail. Remind
them in the facility that we have funded all the
three new youth camps that we've committed to, so you
(03:06):
don't have to put them in don Dale. You can
put them to a camp out in the middle of
nowhere where they're going to get rehabilitated, they're going to
get life skills and go to a program on that camp,
and then we'll find them an employment after this. But
there is no reason to be bailing these youth when
they breach.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Their bail lea. Do you agree?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I couldn't disagree more. And when I heard Brent Potter
speaking on your program yesterday, honestly, I was screaming at
the radio, Katie. It was just the most disingenuous bunch
of rubbish I had, quite frankly, ever heard from a
man who's very clearly is distancing himself from Labor and
their decisions. And honestly, Katie, he even said that this
(03:43):
is a result of two decades of policy, which is
exactly right, Brent Potter, for the first time ever, you
are correct. Labor for nineteen of the last twenty three
years has governed the territory and failed to address crime.
He seeks to blame the judges and anyone else for
his failure and the failure of this government over the
last eight years. And people are sick and tired of
(04:04):
the way this trickery is being forced down people's throats,
like as if territories don't really understand the gravity of
the situation out there. Labor are treating people like they
are idiots.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Lea is changing the legislation going to make judges or
the judiciary actually remind these kids though.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Absolutely, and I just want to make this so clear
for your listeners. The courts are there to implement the laws.
The laws are set by the Parliament. And that's why
this August election is such an important opportunity to vote
for change, because your member of Parliament is meant to
go into that building and vote for laws that meet
your expectation. And what we have instead is a group
(04:46):
of people ruling the territory who are failing to meet
our community's expectations. So under a CLP government, we can
walk into that parliament. We can lower the age of
criminal responsibility, we can make breach of bowl condition and offense.
We give police stronger powers to deal with youth justice.
All of that can be done in a matter of
a couple of hours in the parliament. Katie. It is
(05:08):
Labor who do not believe in stronger consequences. They do
not believe in holding people accountable. And if they did
believe those things, Katie, they would have done it already,
because we're eight years down this road.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, and look that were talking about boot camp yesterday,
Brent Potter talking about boot camp yesterday and I said, yep,
good thing. But why has it taken seven years? I mean,
this is where people are at. We have had enough.
But you know, even yesterday, Lot, why are these kids
not at bloody school? We've all been asking that over
and over again. The incident last week where you've got
(05:40):
kids behind the wheel of a stolen vehicle while other
kids are getting ready to go to school, why are
they not at school?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Because Labor abolished truancy offices, they no longer prosecute parents
for failing to take their kids to school. They no
longer empower schools to deal with this issue, and all
of the rights the parent and the child to ignore
the law. I mean, let's not forget it is a
legal requirement to send your child to school. And as
far as the COLP is concerned, no parent has a
(06:10):
right to deprive their child of an education because education
is the key to the future, and that's why we're
so focused on attendance. We have some of the most
abhorrent figures. I mean, forty six percent attendance in the Berkley,
for example, Katie. But these kids do need to be
at school, their parents do need to be held accountable
for failing to get them there, and we need to
(06:31):
be supporting schools in this space because under labor Is
everything has gone the other way. All of the rights
are with the people doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Leah a couple of quick questions about school, but on
a different, different route. The Northern Territory governments say that
they've accepted all fifteen recommendations of the review. That's happened
are secondary school model's pitched to increase support, improve attendance
and boost the number of students completing year twelve.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So no more middle school. Does the CLP support this?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, middle schools have been a giant failure for the
last twenty years and I can't believe it's taken labor
this long to realize that it was a bad experiment.
But now we have this entire network of infrastructure that's
geared towards having middle and secondary schools. But the COLP
fully supports having high school that is year seven right
through the year twelve. It provides that leadership.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Last week that you don't no, I think.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
What she meant is that it's a very big egg
to unscramble. As I said yesterday, it's just such a
twenty years of ingrained policy and infrastructure investment has led us.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So just to be really clear, colp's policy is to
go to the high school model.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like the ALP is saying at the moment.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That's correct. It's taken Labor twenty years to fall on
their sword and admit they got it wrong. But the
COLP is very focused and in fact, when we were
last in government, Katie, we were making moves in this direction.
So in Palmerston, for example, Labor built Rosebury Middle School
and had the senior campuses Palmerston College. Under the previous
(08:09):
CLP government. We made that one school, two campuses to
try and bring things back together. But a lot more
work needs to be done in this space. Our kids
deserve it, their families deserve it, and it's going to
be a huge focus if we win in August.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So are you and Joel on the same page here?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
One percent? It was just a point of confusion and
also around you know, how do we then make that happen?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Did the Shadow Education Minister Joe Heersey not know what
the CLP stance was.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
No, No, she knew when our position was. It's just
around this transition from how do we get from the
point where in now to the point we need to
be where we're reamalgamating high school, campuses, infrastructure, you name it.
So it's going to be very interesting to see how
Labor put their plans. But certainly it's a big focus
(09:02):
area for us, and we disagree with the Sorry, kay,
we disagree with the recommendations in that report around boarding schools.
We think boarding schools have a tremendous role to play
and so we don't disagree, but we don't agree in
full with the report that government have put out.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Just a couple of quick questions.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
We know that yesterday the Northern Territory Government the construction
and pre commissioning of this forty five million dollar Doar
and Catherine battery energy storage system known as dk BESS.
It's now complete, with all one hundred and ninety two
batteries in the system expected to.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Come online by the end of the year. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yesterday though the Chief Minister had said that well, these
best batteries were part of a system that would allow
those stranded solar farms at Bachelor, Manton Dam and Catherine
to become operational.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
She even flagged a possible option of the.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Government buying back those solar farms from e and I
is that something that the CELP thinks should happen.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, this is a mess and we actually broke this
story last Sitting's Katie when we asked Eva Lawla about
where the government would be purchasing those solar farms. And
of course, as we know, they were farms built by
the private sector that have been sitting there for many
many years, not connected to the grid, despite this government
pursuing its renewable energy target. So my understanding is that
(10:27):
I think one of the farms is providing twenty five
percent to the grid I believe is what evil Lawa
said in Parliament. And of course now this government's investing
tens of millions of dollars in batteries which only provide
a very short interim amount of time to the system
for them to be able to generate greater power.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So are you.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Guys keen to purchase those solar farms like was flagged
by the Chief Minister.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, I think we'd absolutely have to look at the
detail on that Katie if we win in August. We
don't have any information and other than the glossy highlights
that Labor are putting out, and I don't trust them
as far as I can throw them, Katie.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, we got Well, we've got to know how we're
going to cost it with detail.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, we've got to know how much they're going to cost. Hey,
a really quick one, because we've got a chill fault.
But Saint Vinnie's is set to move from Stuart Park
to Coconut Grove. We've spoken to a number of businesses
and residents in the area who are furious that the
homelessness services are moving from Stuart Park to Coconut Grove. Well,
I think anybody that lives in Stuart Park is pretty
furious about some of the behavior that happens as well.
(11:31):
Do you think that they should relocate there?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, I've been into Stuart Park and I've been to
that facility, and I've spoken to Saint Finni's and I've
also spoken to the community, and there is no question
that Mark moynihan promised the people in Stuart Park that
that facility would not be there, and so what I
think we've seen now is this desperate realization that the
election is six months ahead. He's obviously lobbied heart and
(11:56):
said get this out of my electrip. It's now landed
in former Chief Ministers electorate of Nightcliff, which is being
transferred to Brent Potter. And I think we're seeing a
labor scramble on the hot potato there, Katie. But people
are very very upset about it. So there's been a yeah,
there's been a lack of consultation and coconut growth. So
anyone who's concerned really needs to put in their submission
(12:20):
to that DCA process. I believe it. I think it's
nine March. Don't quote me on that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
No, I don't get that detail. We are going to
have to leave it there later. I'm sorry, we're really
pressed for time. Thank you so much for speaking with
us this morning.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
No worries, take care bye.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Thank you
Joining me live on the line right now is the
coop leader, the opposition leader, Leah Finocchiaro.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Leah, Good morning Katie to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Now, Leah, there is quite a bit to cover off
on this morning. I am just going to go across
to apparently this crime series that's occurred, well from yesterday.
I know I had a group of kids try to
snatch my phone from me yesterday in the CBD. They've
then apparently been involved well, it's believed that a group
has been involved in a number of incidents, including two
(00:31):
servo robberies in Darwin, CBD. Police received numerous reports just
after midday yesterday that a group of views allegedly committing
various offenses, including property damage to a hotel. A thirteen
and fourteen year old have been charged with a number
of offenses, including aggravated robbery and possession of a controlled weapon.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Unbelievable, isn't it. I mean, it's sad to think that
we're even speaking about this. It doesn't meet any level
of community expectation of what a thirteen or fourteen year
old should be doing. Their parents are not accountable, apparently
under labor for their actions. And it's the community who
continues to suffer, who continues to change their way of life,
(01:12):
their behavior, just in this desperate attempt to try not
to become a victim of crime. So this is failure
of a proportion we've never seen in the territory before.
It is unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Leah. I'm going to tell you I reckon that it's
not just a thirteen and fourteen year old involved yesterday.
I'm going to call it early and say that I
think that there's a bigger group involved. And I would
go so far as to say I reckon some of
those kids. The one that tried to flog my phone
from me, I would say was ten years old, if
not younger, yep.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And believe there is a long history of crime. Then
you can just go back and look at your program
from last week, Katie, or the week before, where we're
seeing ten year old, eleven year old, twelve year olds,
even younger kids. But that's not really captured by the
data committing these offenses. And of course the gun government
has this commissive attitude young people under labor are untouchable.
(02:05):
They have taken power from our police to be able
to deal with this. They have failed to deliver boot
camp and programs to turn these kids wives around, and
they've found to hold these kids' parents accountable or force
these children to go to school. So of course they're
out on the street destroying other people's lives because this
government is holding not the child or the family accountable
(02:26):
for their actions, Leah, is the community who bear the consequence. Lea.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
This is what Brent Potter, the Minister for Police, had
to say on the show yesterday when I had asked
about the situation that we've seen last week where young
kids were allegedly targeting police in a stolen vehicle.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The legislation is there for a judge to deny a
youth bail and hold them on remand, and it squarely
rests with the judiciary in this instance to start reminding
these youth to teut these bail laws and go against
the judge's direction. Don't continue to regrant them bail. Remind
them in the facility that we have funded all the
three new youth camps that we've committed to, so you
(03:06):
don't have to put them in don Dale. You can
put them to a camp out in the middle of
nowhere where they're going to get rehabilitated, they're going to
get life skills and go to a program on that camp,
and then we'll find them an employment after this. But
there is no reason to be bailing these youth when
they breach.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Their bail lea. Do you agree?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I couldn't disagree more. And when I heard Brent Potter
speaking on your program yesterday, honestly, I was screaming at
the radio, Katie. It was just the most disingenuous bunch
of rubbish I had, quite frankly, ever heard from a
man who's very clearly is distancing himself from Labor and
their decisions. And honestly, Katie, he even said that this
(03:43):
is a result of two decades of policy, which is
exactly right, Brent Potter, for the first time ever, you
are correct. Labor for nineteen of the last twenty three
years has governed the territory and failed to address crime.
He seeks to blame the judges and anyone else for
his failure and the failure of this government over the
last eight years. And people are sick and tired of
(04:04):
the way this trickery is being forced down people's throats,
like as if territories don't really understand the gravity of
the situation out there. Labor are treating people like they
are idiots.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Lea is changing the legislation going to make judges or
the judiciary actually remind these kids though.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Absolutely, and I just want to make this so clear
for your listeners. The courts are there to implement the laws.
The laws are set by the Parliament. And that's why
this August election is such an important opportunity to vote
for change, because your member of Parliament is meant to
go into that building and vote for laws that meet
your expectation. And what we have instead is a group
(04:46):
of people ruling the territory who are failing to meet
our community's expectations. So under a CLP government, we can
walk into that parliament. We can lower the age of
criminal responsibility, we can make breach of bowl condition and offense.
We give police stronger powers to deal with youth justice.
All of that can be done in a matter of
a couple of hours in the parliament. Katie. It is
(05:08):
Labor who do not believe in stronger consequences. They do
not believe in holding people accountable. And if they did
believe those things, Katie, they would have done it already,
because we're eight years down this road.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, and look that were talking about boot camp yesterday,
Brent Potter talking about boot camp yesterday and I said, yep,
good thing. But why has it taken seven years? I mean,
this is where people are at. We have had enough.
But you know, even yesterday, Lot, why are these kids
not at bloody school? We've all been asking that over
and over again. The incident last week where you've got
(05:40):
kids behind the wheel of a stolen vehicle while other
kids are getting ready to go to school, why are
they not at school?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Because Labor abolished truancy offices, they no longer prosecute parents
for failing to take their kids to school. They no
longer empower schools to deal with this issue, and all
of the rights the parent and the child to ignore
the law. I mean, let's not forget it is a
legal requirement to send your child to school. And as
far as the COLP is concerned, no parent has a
(06:10):
right to deprive their child of an education because education
is the key to the future, and that's why we're
so focused on attendance. We have some of the most
abhorrent figures. I mean, forty six percent attendance in the Berkley,
for example, Katie. But these kids do need to be
at school, their parents do need to be held accountable
for failing to get them there, and we need to
(06:31):
be supporting schools in this space because under labor Is
everything has gone the other way. All of the rights
are with the people doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Leah a couple of quick questions about school, but on
a different, different route. The Northern Territory governments say that
they've accepted all fifteen recommendations of the review. That's happened
are secondary school model's pitched to increase support, improve attendance
and boost the number of students completing year twelve.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So no more middle school. Does the CLP support this?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, middle schools have been a giant failure for the
last twenty years and I can't believe it's taken labor
this long to realize that it was a bad experiment.
But now we have this entire network of infrastructure that's
geared towards having middle and secondary schools. But the COLP
fully supports having high school that is year seven right
through the year twelve. It provides that leadership.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Last week that you don't no, I think.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
What she meant is that it's a very big egg
to unscramble. As I said yesterday, it's just such a
twenty years of ingrained policy and infrastructure investment has led us.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So just to be really clear, colp's policy is to
go to the high school model.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Like the ALP is saying at the moment.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That's correct. It's taken Labor twenty years to fall on
their sword and admit they got it wrong. But the
COLP is very focused and in fact, when we were
last in government, Katie, we were making moves in this direction.
So in Palmerston, for example, Labor built Rosebury Middle School
and had the senior campuses Palmerston College. Under the previous
(08:09):
CLP government. We made that one school, two campuses to
try and bring things back together. But a lot more
work needs to be done in this space. Our kids
deserve it, their families deserve it, and it's going to
be a huge focus if we win in August.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So are you and Joel on the same page here?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
One percent? It was just a point of confusion and
also around you know, how do we then make that happen?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Did the Shadow Education Minister Joe Heersey not know what
the CLP stance was.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
No, No, she knew when our position was. It's just
around this transition from how do we get from the
point where in now to the point we need to
be where we're reamalgamating high school, campuses, infrastructure, you name it.
So it's going to be very interesting to see how
Labor put their plans. But certainly it's a big focus
(09:02):
area for us, and we disagree with the Sorry, kay,
we disagree with the recommendations in that report around boarding schools.
We think boarding schools have a tremendous role to play
and so we don't disagree, but we don't agree in
full with the report that government have put out.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Just a couple of quick questions.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
We know that yesterday the Northern Territory Government the construction
and pre commissioning of this forty five million dollar Doar
and Catherine battery energy storage system known as dk BESS.
It's now complete, with all one hundred and ninety two
batteries in the system expected to.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Come online by the end of the year. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yesterday though the Chief Minister had said that well, these
best batteries were part of a system that would allow
those stranded solar farms at Bachelor, Manton Dam and Catherine
to become operational.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
She even flagged a possible option of the.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Government buying back those solar farms from e and I
is that something that the CELP thinks should happen.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, this is a mess and we actually broke this
story last Sitting's Katie when we asked Eva Lawla about
where the government would be purchasing those solar farms. And
of course, as we know, they were farms built by
the private sector that have been sitting there for many
many years, not connected to the grid, despite this government
pursuing its renewable energy target. So my understanding is that
(10:27):
I think one of the farms is providing twenty five
percent to the grid I believe is what evil Lawa
said in Parliament. And of course now this government's investing
tens of millions of dollars in batteries which only provide
a very short interim amount of time to the system
for them to be able to generate greater power.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So are you.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Guys keen to purchase those solar farms like was flagged
by the Chief Minister.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, I think we'd absolutely have to look at the
detail on that Katie if we win in August. We
don't have any information and other than the glossy highlights
that Labor are putting out, and I don't trust them
as far as I can throw them, Katie.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, we got Well, we've got to know how we're
going to cost it with detail.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, we've got to know how much they're going to cost. Hey,
a really quick one, because we've got a chill fault.
But Saint Vinnie's is set to move from Stuart Park
to Coconut Grove. We've spoken to a number of businesses
and residents in the area who are furious that the
homelessness services are moving from Stuart Park to Coconut Grove. Well,
I think anybody that lives in Stuart Park is pretty
furious about some of the behavior that happens as well.
(11:31):
Do you think that they should relocate there?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, I've been into Stuart Park and I've been to
that facility, and I've spoken to Saint Finni's and I've
also spoken to the community, and there is no question
that Mark moynihan promised the people in Stuart Park that
that facility would not be there, and so what I
think we've seen now is this desperate realization that the
election is six months ahead. He's obviously lobbied heart and
(11:56):
said get this out of my electrip. It's now landed
in former Chief Ministers electorate of Nightcliff, which is being
transferred to Brent Potter. And I think we're seeing a
labor scramble on the hot potato there, Katie. But people
are very very upset about it. So there's been a yeah,
there's been a lack of consultation and coconut growth. So
anyone who's concerned really needs to put in their submission
(12:20):
to that DCA process. I believe it. I think it's
nine March. Don't quote me on that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
No, I don't get that detail. We are going to
have to leave it there later. I'm sorry, we're really
pressed for time. Thank you so much for speaking with
us this morning.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
No worries, take care bye.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Thank you
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