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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well a very good morning and welcome to the show.
It is Friday morning. It's time for the week that was.
And joining us in the studio this morning, Jared mainly
from the c LP.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We've got Georgie Dickerson her last day at nine News Darman.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good morning Georgie, sad and half happy. Oh good Friday
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Heading off to Sky News Melbourne.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
A very little bit of a colder climate, so I
think it's cold this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But as I get down to Melbourne think I'm going
to get a root shop.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think you are. It's going to be freezing for you.
But it's probably pretty cold out.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
In the room this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Is it keazy?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Ap Pere morning? We're shivering in our little dummies out there.
Till about eighteen.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You were a bit cold.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Do you have to put a little jacket on that?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well you can. I didn't have it on last night,
but I think tonight I might.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Bones cute Joel about it for the Labour party this morning.
Good morning to your John.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Good morning Katy. I've actually got my jacket on this show.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
You've got a holes.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You're dressed up for.
Speaker 7 (01:01):
Us today it's not a suit. Let's not let's not
put too much sugar on top of this. But I
have got a jacket on and I am going to
Barunga and I heard the Yeah, it's going to be
like six degrees overnight. So if you're going down there,
take a DRIs of bone and a swag and an
extra beanie.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You'll need all of the above. It will definitely be cool.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I reckon, Beanie.
Speaker 8 (01:22):
You can Borroy if you want, John, please, because I
need something to put on the phone.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, I'll tell you what. There is a lot to
cover off, as I say, every single week, and unfortunately
not a good week when it comes to crime. We
know that there was quite a lot actually to cover off.
Monday morning, we did open the show with the news
that a man had been charged with murder after the
death of a woman in Coconut Grove. Police say that
at about twelve thirty on Saturday, they received reports of
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an unresponsive woman at a residence in Coconut Grove. Now
that forty three year old man presented himself to police
at the residence and was arrested. He appeared in court,
as I understand it, on Tuesday Meanwhile, we know that
across the northern suburbs and across Palmerston quite a bit
of property crime to grapple with. We caught up with
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Strikeforce Trident a little bit earlier in the week. They
told us I believe seventy five arrests across two weeks.
So the police working hard to try to keep things
under control. But it does seem as though these issues
of crime is something that we're again having to deal with. Georgie,
I understand you ran a story on last night or
nine News on this as well, didn't you.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, it's just terrible, how bad.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I guess the situation is escalating obviously that incident on
Saturday or Sunday. Sorry, it's all just escalating. And you
know we've got these brawls. I think there was a
brawl out in the front of the Anti News just
the other day, and so you know, these poor police
are doing everything they can, but you know what's being
done to fix it. And we even spoke to some
people after the property Council's survey went out that's talking
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about crime, and even just you know, talking to some
people on the streets, they're like, it's so sad. All
of these shops are closing their doors because of the
crime that we're seeing. And she said, you know, my
issue is I have too much stock because I just
hope that it's going to get better and it just
isn't well.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And I actually then noted as well, I was sent
some photos last night in fact of a business in
Culum Bay that was that had put up basically signs
saying that they're going to be closed in Culumbay. So
basically something closed temporarily closed due to recurrent break ins.
Due to the consistent break ins and threatening behavior, we've
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made the difficult decision to temporarily close our doors. So
that's Bung and Saul, I believe it's called they're at
Culum Bay.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And there was another one, Fin and Tonic, who only
opened I think about a month ago, and already they've
had their windows, their whole window smashed and grog stolens.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You've got a small business trying to against me.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I know.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I've seen multiple post from him on Facebook, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Getting the precinct ready, getting it all, making sure it
looks beautiful for the dry season, and then to keep
them as it's breaking from the kids and the kids
look very much.
Speaker 9 (04:11):
It's just a shame that this is just a recurring story.
You know, we talk about John Johns, we talk about
the beauty bar and Catherine shutting down, we talk about
the ride and the ant news the other day that
just seems to be no into it and the Labor
government have done nothing about it. And we know that
an election coming up in three months time and it
seems to be maybe five minutes to midnight. They're going
to try and make it it's not an issue and
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don't worry about it, or we're going to fix his
little things. But don't forget the Labor government had eight years.
They've been in power, this particular government of eight years,
and it's just been getting worse and worse.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And what are the Labor government have done.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
They've taken powers away from police, They've raised a responsibility,
they've taken the consequences away and open manatary sentencing, and
these little steps have all added up now and now
we're actually seeing the result of this Labor changing their
policies about making it easy to do crime and less
consequences for these kids.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And it's time to them make a change.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So you're the Minister for Small business. So have you
been down there to Cullumba and have a chat.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Have been visiting a number of business across the territory
over the last little while, and you're right, it's out
of it.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
It's out of control and we need to actually move on.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
And that's why Evilaul has been really good since she's
come in and it's been common sense and there's been investment.
We are trying to recruit more that's really difficult, right,
we know that it's really difficult to recruit more police
and they're doing a really really good job. I would
I would just ask, you know, the people who are
committing these please think about the impact you're having on
other people.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Because and this is no consequence.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Well there are consequences.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
We know there's consequence, but you've got to think about
the broader community and just stop doing it, like stop
doing and stop impacting our community.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I mean, these kids aren't listening to the radio station.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I mean, as much as we love listening to you k,
I don't think these needs are the ones listening to it.
They don't think that there's consequences because when they see
you know, their family members or other people around their
age committing these acts and going into businesses causing damage.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's just a game.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
The damage is caused because they want to gain access.
I mean, that's that's an obvious to get booze or
alcohol or same thing, cigarettes, whatever. But the tragic death
of the lady and coconut grow I mean to me,
it shows I mean, the perpetrator had a DEVO order
against him to stay away, so clearly there was history
in regards to his behavior, and sadly, what happens in
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this situation is it just escalates, and sadly, for that woman,
escalated and she's lost her life and he'll spend the
rest of his days in jail. So you know, people say, well,
what's the point of having these orders against you, because
clearly you can walk right through them. And he's done
the damage that he's done.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You know, it's terrible.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
She's probably a grandma, she've got children, all that sort
of stuff. But the good Tutor's violence that we see
not only just in our darktown but other towns and
places in the territory is because of what we've said
is they know that there will be no consequences. They
just want their they just want their sugar hit. So
they just smash and grab door rush and then it
is out of control and there are no consequences. There
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are some consequences, I get you that job. There are
some consequences, but they're enough. There's not enough, and they're
not strong enough.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well. The other part of this discussion, of course, is,
as had been touched on, my understanding is that Matt
Cunningham from Sky News is reporting on quite a big
brawl that happened outside of the NT News yesterday. Now
I hope Matt doesn't mind me saying, but from my
discussions with him, my understanding is that there had been
a large group of people over recent days that had
been sitting sort of drinking around that area, and then
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by yesterday that behavior, by three o'clock in the afternoon,
had turned into a big brawl. It had turned into
a dangerous behavior, which therein lies the question, you know,
should we be just allowing this, you know, this sort
of camping around or sitting around in the city. And
I know that from all accounts, we keep being told
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that it is not legal to sit around and drink,
and the police really can't. You know, when criminal behavior
then unfolds or where there is laws broken, is when
the police can obviously go and make those arrests. But
if people are sitting around and they're drinking there, and
they're languishing in that area for quite some time, it's
inevitably going to wind up a situation where too much
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alcohol is consumed and potentially something bad's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Let me finish.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
This is a classic example of a where in two
thousand and nine, and I'm talking about the too colon
the law, where the Labor government changed the law to
make it so it wasn't offense to drink within two
caves of a licensed premises.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And we know that.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
Because their own three year liquor review says it's not
an offense. So there's the evidence there because I know
there's been discussion about oh it is legal, it's not legal,
but the government's own reviews that it wasn't. So now
what the police can't do is be proactive and go
to those groups of people and go, hey, look, you're
all sitting here, there's a dv A. Lets ge everyone's
name and workout are you breaching bail? Are you breaching
pro are you breaching a DVO? Have you got a
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history of alcohol abuse? After drinking, so they can't currently
do that. They can't go there and say what's your
name list? I want to do a check to make
sure there's a breach of the finished but it hasn't
actually fixed the problem. And the problem is that the
police can't be proactive. We know the police do a
wonderful job, but the hands are tied because of one
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the inaction of the consequences. But let's focus on that
to klaw which is changed while government in twenty ninety.
We've got to make sure that we know this is
a direct result of the labor government watering down the laws,
and now the police can't be proactive and stop those
groups of drinking. And let's talk about domestic violence, because
someone's you know it, gets gets a sold or even
murdered in a situation just recently. So the police can't
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be proactive and say, okay, you know your name is
jured Maylee. Look on their records and hey there's a DBO.
You can't be with Georgia because when you because you drink,
you can't it could be domestic violence.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They can't do that, and I think there was wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You can only then they can only intervene when they
see you know, people start to fight and things like that.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know, that's when it's too.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Late committed pice once the committed in defense. Police got
all the power in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
They can do one it's correct, Like is it a
situation where the where the where the police can't actually
go and you know, well, I think that.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Police can be proactive, and they are proactive. I also
see Laraki Nation being proactive.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
In their All they really do is tip out the alcohol.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
And that's law that we've changed. We've actually just changed
that law. I mean there is the new wanding laws.
There's a laws of tipouts on buses now with transit office.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
It doesn't stop the behavior because then people just go
and get more of.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
It, So it doesn't stop the behavior of someone's intoxicated. No,
but it's also giving additional powers to transit officer to
tip the alcohol which will reduce the downstream harm of
people getting intoxicated even.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
That's drinking.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And had discussions I've had discussions over months as well
over the last few months where and I've said this
on here on numerous occasions where I have arsenal Northern
Territory police when it comes to some of the domestic
violence incidents that we are seeing. How often are we
then seeing domestic violence on our streets in public places?
And it is something that we are seeing often. So
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to me, you know, I understand that this. You know
that domestic violence can happen behind closed doors, that can
happen anywhere. I understand that assaults can happen anywhere. I
understand that, you know, laws can be broken anywhere. But
when people are drinking in public places and there and
you know they're you're seeing them drinking in a public
place over a period of days, you know, and then
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it winds up in a massive brawl that happens. You know,
for this example, outside of the Northern Territory news, you
just got to ask yourself. I think somewhere things are
breaking down, right because we are, we're not intervening fast
enough broken.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
But there is another question is clearly these people are
buying alcohol from a bottle shop, so they've obviously got
a driver's license, they're obviously not on the BDR, or
whether they're getting secondary supply from somewhere because I know
during oh what was it.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
During COVID, there was a real issue around.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
And there was there was a car that was loading
up from Bachelor driving through the pubs, picking up booze
along the way, and they're coming to town and I think, yeah,
that's his name, Tony from the noon Ma pub. I
might have spoken to you about it and others.
Speaker 10 (12:00):
So there's I think to remember issue of soundry supply,
because if a lot of people are being arrested for
this disorderly conduct or violence in the streets, they automatically
best I understand, go on to the band drinker's register
if they're charged.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
So it's not breaking, it's broken. Yeah, And we even
had a small incident out at the Kulinger shops yesterday
wasn't bad, but there's a group of people who'd come
from out of town somewhere, and there was one bloke
came up to me with a piece of paper, unwounded
and said, my name's Son, you know. Can you give
me some small change? And I said no. I said,
but if you're hungry, I'll buy your sandwich. And he
got started to get a little bit antsy, like I
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don't want my words, I don't want the bloody sandwich,
I want the money. And then a couple of blokes
coming in just came over and said, hey, mate, just
back off. Yeah yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know, you try.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I mean, I'm quite happy to do that if someone's hungby,
you know, you know, I know it's humbuggying all that
sort of stuff. I get that, butohol, yeah, I get
all that too. But my point is these people are
clearly not from around I just know. I didn't get
to ask where they're from, but they're from out of town.
But it's not just it's not just the city areas.
It's now starting to sneak out into this way.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
We get regular, regular, regular comments and people getting in
contact with us, even Peter this morning. Katio was driving
along the Stuart Highway yesterday near Yarrawonga. There was a
speed camera set up at the location, just fifty meters
away from a group of people consuming alcohol. When's the
government going to get their priorities right. I've got nothing
against finding hard working taxpayers for speeding, but isn't it
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important as well to make sure that you're removing people
who are drinking publicly and are highly intoxicated right across
the road from a highway.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I know exactly where that cop car sits. Yep, and
the people do sit in go in the long grass.
It's just pay And they crossed that road and someone
already has been cleaned up on that road.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, and this was the other part of the discussion.
People walk, yeah, like this is the other part of
the discussion. Our road toll is so high, the number
of people being the number of pedestrians being struck right now,
like there is so so many on going on flowing,
I should say issues as a result of the alcohol
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that's been consumed.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
About alcoholism and being addicted to alcohol, you know, and
that is definitely a problem. And yet this lab of government,
in their wisdom of shut down to the voluntary alcohol
rebooting one in our springs and one and dow and
so there's nowhere to go if you want to go
to a cleaning up shield or a serving up shehelter.
The Stable government are going to shut them both down
so as well as watering down the laws which impact
our lifestyle, because our lost style should be that you
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can walk around and enjoy the dull and whether like
it's beautiful today, or walk to work.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Whatever you might be.
Speaker 9 (14:34):
But people aren't doing that because they're worried about getting
abused at eight o'clock in the morning buying intoxicated people
sitting around drinking and the spot keysy, I go past
it on know, is that what you're talking about. You
often see lots of people they're drinking and you see
green cans all over the joint, and what is the priority,
like begunment?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Are they doing that? It doesn't look like they are.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
But what they are doing, you're shutting down voluntary alcohol
treatment programs because they can't handle the problem.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I mean, we've talked about this. I mean I don't
begrudge and I don't think anyone begrudges people coming into
the big city and the bright lights. And I know
lots of people say, oh, they come in for medical
treatment and their family comes to and then they stay
with well, you know, lots of people come in for
medical treatment, but they don't hang around in the in
the suburbs causing trouble. So I think a lot of
a lot of it also is people come in and
away from their communities or their townships because they're bored,
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job like that.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But there's also situations where they're actually coming into town
because there's violence in their communities as well. And I've
spoken to women before in Yeah, that's right, Like in
parap I've spoken, you know, my family has a property there.
I've spoken to a lady before with a small baby
who has said that she is in town because there's
violence in her community. You know, was sleeping sort of
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under the awning of an area of a property that
we've got. And you know, my husband and I will
often say, and he will often say to people, look,
I've got no worries with his sleeping there, but please
just keep the area tidy when you leave. And you know,
when someone's genuinely fleeing a violent situation or a dangerous situation,
I've got no issue with that. But what I've got
an issue with is people drinking publicly in public places,
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you know, and then getting up to really bad behavior
and the and all of the on flow issues that
we're seeing, and we.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Need people sit out at the front of bottle shops,
you know, and say why don't the bottle shop workers
not serve them? But you know, bottle shop workers are
too scared to say no, they're not.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
On the BDR or if there's not a reason why
they can't serve them, then, you know, But then.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Even if they're intoxicated.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know, these bottle shop workers are young, you know,
first job kids that are just out of school or
you know in year twelve. Of course they're just going
to give them the alcohol even if they are intoxicated,
because you're too scared that they're going to retaliate and
they're not just going to go away if they're drunk
and intoxicated and still want that alcohol. And so I
feel like that's another thing that there needs to be
more police around these bottle shops so that if the
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situation does happen, they can step in and you know,
help these kids.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
Well, look we're going to take people doing the right thing,
but they get to go and buy it and bring
it out there.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So you know you've got a shop.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
People are doing it tough, but they are working, really
are and they do a great job.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, we are going to take a quick run. Yeah,
we are going to take quick break. You're listening to
Mix one O four nine's three sixty. There is a
lot to cover off on this morning. You are listening
to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. As I said,
there is a lot to discuss this morning. If you've
just joined us in the Studio, Jared Maylee, Georgie Dickerson, Kesiapuric,
and Joel Bowden. Now earlier this week or towards the
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end of last week. In fact, late Friday afternoon, the
Anti Discrimination Commissioner issued a press release saying that it
has been reported that the Anti Anti Anti Discrimination Commissioner
is urgently investigating or conducting a review of systemic racism
within the Northern Territory Police Force. Now, he said this
is misleading and incorrect. The Anti Discrimination Commissioner has been
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approached by the Attorney General to undertake a racism review. However,
for the past few months he's been in negotiations with
the Attorney General's Department, the Attorney General and the Minister
for Police concerning the necessary resources to conduct such a review.
To date, the funding put forward to the ADC does
not stretch to enable the setup of that designated project
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team and carriage of such a review in its full cycle.
Now I asked the Chief Minister Evil Awler about this
earlier this week. She said one hundred and seventy million dollars.
One hundred seventy thousand dollars goodness million. I was going
to say one hundred and seventy thousand dollars has been
set aside for this review. Now. In the statement by
the Anti Discrimination Commissioner, he says that in light of
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the fact that considering the government's twenty twenty four budget
invests five hundred and seventy million dollars into police with
four hundred and forty five million dollars over five years
for an additional two hundred officers, it's timely that the
Northern Territory Police Force consider investing in a racism review
within the ADC. Now, within the Anti Discrimination Commission.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Katie, how many agencies and people have to review police
Like I'm getting a bit fed up with this. You know,
ICs meant to be antidiscriminator and sorry, Independent Commission Against
Coruption is meant to be investigating systemic racism in the
anti police force, which I don't believe there is, and
now we've got this Anti Discrimination Commission wants to investigate it.
How many people? How many body reviews? To actually leave
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the police are probably doing something internally as.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Well, Commission Murphy.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Commission Murphy is doing something.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So money could be spent better getting more cops here.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well, the thing is just just because they've got another
five hundred million to get more police and more resources
and cars and whatever. It doesn't mean I'll just cut
off another one hundred thousand he had to give to
the Antidiscrimination Commission exactly.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
General has put that one hundred and seven cut.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Your cloth to suit the suit. If you've got one
hundred and seventy thousand, well maybe instead of four projects officers,
you get two and you don't do a massive review
that takes all around the countryside, if not the world.
You just focus on some key elements of a review
and get on with it.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Look, the thing I guess, and the question that I've
got is what is the end game? You know, what
are we what is there's going to achieve in terms
of because we have got the cor inquest obviously that
we're waiting for the outcome of that, So what is
the end game now? I would think that the end
game is to make sure that the Northern Territory Police
Force is doing everything that they can to ensure that
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there is not racism within the Northern Territory Police And
I know that there has been evidence obviously put forward
throughout that coronial inquest. Obviously comments made by Michael Murphy
as well in terms of you know what had happened
about a week or so ago. We've also now got
a situation where you've got a pont the Aboriginal organizations
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in the Northern Territory demanding an apology from the government
and the top police for denying systemic racism in the
Northern Territory Police Force.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Now what are they going to apologize for? I mean,
what does that coalition want from Commissioner Murphy, Chief Minister,
Police minister. Well, I'm sorry on behalf of the officers.
So they want to they want them to apologize on
behalf of someone else's behavior.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, they said, I mean, they've said the situations unaccepted
Aboriginal people to turn it to the police for safety
protection and understanding it points.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Of course it's unacceptable. But you know, when is enough enough?
So let's assume that they all apologize. Is that going
to be enough for them? Or they're going to come
back and say, oh, well, we don't think your apologies
sincee it.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
You know, it needs to be I feel like if
there's an apology, it needs to be steps forward as
to what we're going to do.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Now it's not for the sake of saying, oh, I'm
sorry it happened. Well, it happened, you know, and all
these reviews that are underway.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Too many reviews, and people are sick of it.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Basically, we are sick of it.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Now.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
We need recruitment and then more police, and.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We also want more Indigenous people in our police would assume,
you know. And that's absolutely something that I think is fundamental.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And also the coronal inquest is going to come back
with recommendations and obviously these awards are going to be
part of that final report from the coroner, so no
doubt that is also in some way a little bit
of it. I mean, it's quite an extensive review really,
it's been going on for years now, but she will
no doubt have parts in there that say, this is
what I would recommend the police force do from now,
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given this evidence that I have seen in this in quest.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
Because remember these allegations flying around and harming the police. Know,
these police officers do a great job. My dad was
a police officer for a long time, so I've got
a first hand are hard work and over the more
than they do above it and they required so you know,
this is really an example Labor government just doing nothing,
no real leadership, just to nip it in the butt.
Review after review do this do that. We just need
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to get on with governing in the Northern Territory. The
police do a great job and this Labor government this
is another example of inaction from them.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Rumors flying around.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
Things aren't happening because the Labor government to show no
leadership and dealing with this problem.
Speaker 11 (22:39):
And that's shown very strong leaders has been six months
the money that's going six months ago.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
What do you want them to do during We want.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Some leadership here to stop these rumors flying around in
it in the butt because the police are getting effected
here the hard line front.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Feel like the rumors, what rumors are you talking about?
I feel like we've seen they're not really rumors. That's
been said in the inquest. You know this is fact.
These are the awards.
Speaker 9 (23:15):
So but you know that was in twenty and sixteen.
You know, I agree what Kisa said. I don't think
the systemic racism in the police. I think you know
they're doing their best is stamp it out and these
rewards were twenty and sixteen.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
For memory, I could be.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
Corrected on that, but moving forward, the police need the support.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
We know that.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
There's been three surveys from the Police Association say that
the government don't support them over the last year or
so and the government just don't support them to move.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
The riement though. Really, I think of Michael Murphy has
been as well since taking on the role as the
Police Commissioner is to rebuild the morale within the Northern
Territory Police Force.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Now she's been doing an admirable job at doing I
think Commissioner Murphy has been doing a very good job
and there has been some strong leadership from Eva Laula
and it's been common sense. And then what we've sa
and everyone knows the numbers now there's going to be
two hundred extra police.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Right when they to get here. That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
We numbers are great to talk about, but you know,
people need them here now, not in five to ten
years time. I know it takes a long time to
get the cops here. But funding is all well and
good until that.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Actually, twenty three million dollars for police this year.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
So the funding is open the next five one. We
all know that.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
And recruitment takes a little bit of time, yes, and
we are trying to recruit as quickly as possible. There's
also a national recruitment drive for police. There's a skill
shortage and it's also in police, so we're competing against
every other jurisdiction. I think it's actually in New South
Wales at the moment, who are advertising in the South
Australian newspapers saying south of astrain and police come to
New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
We absolutely need the police now. I mean earlier in
the week I caught up with Alexi. His goddaughter was
assaulted outside of Royal Darwin Hospital earlier this week about
ten pm by an unknown person. He tells me they've
still not heard back, you know, they've still not had
a police officer out there to go and speak to
that seventeen year old girl who was allegedly assaulted. You know,
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to me, that really encapsulates the whole issue that we've
got in the Northern territory right now. When something really serious,
when something frightening like that happens, you know what you
what you expect is it when you call the police.
And it's not a criticism of the police, it's a
criticism that we don't have enough of them that you know,
you expect that if something horrible like that happened, that
you're able to get somebody out there to speak to you,
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particularly a young person like that.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
It shows to me that it's not that the police
are ignoring that no might of that young person. It's
just that there are more serious things that demand their attention.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
We are some written queris about and when the answers
come back, there's two thirds of the police officers, you know,
when you've got someone in the back of the van,
is just dealing with the drunk person, running them around,
picking someone off and take.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Them back to the watchhouse, waiting back.
Speaker 9 (25:50):
Three times you see a police officer in someone in
a paddy way, it's not because they have a resident
of committing a crime. Is because they've picked them up
on the streets because they're intoxicated and they're going to
take them to the sobering up, shot up to the hospital,
or put them in protective custody. So, like you said, George,
an hour and a half of their time is running
around because it goes back to that drinking in a
public place. Were lament change the laws, so they can't
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do anything about other than tip it out, which doesn't work.
So these people become intoxicated, and then they become a
police problem because they're either intoxicated, color graphs themselves or
committing crime.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So you stam it right back to the very basic.
Speaker 9 (26:21):
It goes back to the labor government changing the laws
to make it easier to drink in a public place.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
The police have to pick up the scraps.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Around correct, and we cho to make it easier to drink,
and alcohol is.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
A massive issue in our ninety in our community.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
The domestic violence scourge on our community is just a
disgrace and we should all be ashamed of it. And
the police do the best that they possibly can. They
are stretched, and I think there's Georgie to your point
about recruiting. I think there's sixty or seventy graduating in
the next month or so.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
The graduous we need people that experienced police we can't have.
And obviously it's good to have these graduates as gds
out on the beat, but when you've got place like
Alice Springs, Darwin and even more remote communities that need
that experienced policing, you know, these young coppers might go
out there. Some of them we met, they looked like
they were still in high school, they're so young, and
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so they don't have that stuff experience.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Like this year, we do have to start with graduates
so that they can free up constables and they can
free up the hierarchy and give us an opportunity. But
we are recruiting as vigorously as we can, and I
think again there's going to be sixty or seventy graduates
in the next month or so.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We're going to take a very quick break coming your way.
Next we are going to be speaking a bit more
about the economy. If you've just joined us this morning,
We've got Joel Boden, Keseyer Puric, Georgie Dickerson, and also
Jared Mayley in the studio with us. Now, look, there
is a lot to cover off. I'm keen to talk
more about the economy, with the fact that tam Boren
has been given the green light, as well as the
fact that Master Builders had raised some concerns earlier this
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week in the case of those new builds. But we've
been receiving a few messages over the last twenty four
hours about Territory Day. We've been contacted by some territorians
who are quite worried after hearing that Territory Day celebrations
could be moved from Mindle to the waterfront. Now, yesterday
we received a text message that said Territory Day is
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canceled at Mindle Beach. Just to elaborate on the cancelation,
approximately one hundred and twenty businesses have been left in
limbo without being able to trade at the traditional fireworks
day only three weeks out. This person says that they
were notified about it on Monday and that they have
been told that it's moving to the waterfront. Joel, I
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don't know whether this is accurate or what the go
is here.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Neither do I, Okay, but I'll tell you what. There
will be bangers going off on the first of July.
There will be I think crackers going off everywhere around
the territory, and the government again will fund an event.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I'm not across the details of the event, and I'm not.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
It is usually something that happens at Mindle Beach.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Why does everything have to go to the bloody water front?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, no, we're being told that it's had to move,
like from some of the people that have been in
contact with us, the vendors that have been in contact
with us, that there has been some kind of of
pulling off the event from Mindle Beach due to something
to do with the Aboriginal Protection Authority. I don't know
exactly what the situation is bloody twenty years. Yeah, so look,
we're trying to get to the bottom Faly pop out
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of and this is the thing we're trying to get
to the bottom of. And that's you know, that is
a look fundamentally, there's going to be concerns if it
is being moved by some of those markets still vendors.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Okay, I'm happy to rent out my mother's hunderda Capetti.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
There's plenty of let people come out there.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Plenty room for parking. I'll get all my sisters to
put a stall on. Oh yeah, what about the.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Poor animals out there? They might be scared.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I would lock them all up.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
But look with the animals on cracking night, Yeah, maybe
we should stick to the city.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yes, yeah, now look on it exactly what the goal is.
But that is that's something that we have been contacted
about by listeners. So obviously you know there are quite
a few people that are worried about this. If they
have got.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Well, it'll be the responsibility of the minister who's in
charge of work Safe and We're Safe, I think is
in the Attorney General's department, So Chancy Paike should have answers.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well, look, we'll try and find out. I don't know, Joel.
I don't know whether you know anything about it.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
I'm not across the detail as in when and where
it's going to happen.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
But what I can say is that it's going to
go off.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
There will be.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Banglers and crackers going off on the first of July.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
We know that's a territory to reach, Maybe not so much.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
So for those businesses they're down there, mintal businesses on
all of the markets, so many people come down, especially
on crack and night.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
How do we not know where it's going to be held.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
We're talking uncertainty again, Will they become uncertainly the economy,
uncertain crime, you know, uncertainty in relation to almost anything
you talk about in Northern Territory, and now we're talking
about uncertainty of fire cracker night.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Holy moly, you just.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Heard me say it's going to go off and there'll
be bangers and crackers everywhere.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
There's no certainly about it.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
That we have.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Will is a real concern if they can't have that
influx of people and instead of the waterfront, they don't
have the space for as many stalls as there would
be beach.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
So look, we are trying to Yeah, we're trying to
get to the bottom of it. Look, we have Crystal
has been in contact with Minister Brent Potter's office now
it says there is a quote from Brent Potter saying
that the Northern Territory Government's finalizing plans to deliver the
biggest and best Territory Day yet with an exciting program
of events to be released. There will be no changes
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to everyone's ability to buy or sell fireworks, so nothing
there in terms of the location. We are due to
catch up with Brent Potter on Tuesday morning, so hopefully
we'll have some further detail at that point in time.
But yeah, look, I'll be really interested to find out
a bit more about this to our listeners out there
this morning. If you do have further information in terms
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of if you are somebody that's got a market stall,
or if you are somebody that you know that is
impacted by this, if you've been told further detail, feel
free to get contact with us but look, you know
that's I guess part of the discussion this morning. The
other part of the discussion about the economy that I
do want to get to in some really good news
will Tamboran well for some some who are against fracking,
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maybe not so much, or some who are against gas,
maybe not so much. But Tamboran Resources has passed the
final green tape needed to frack the Beterloo sub basin
after being granted environmental approvals to begin that drilling. According
to a report in the NT News, the Northern Territory
Government approved Tamboran's environmental management plan to construct four exploration
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and appraisal sites and undertake drilling and flow testing of
up to fifteen wells at the Natural Gas field five
one hundred kilometers southeast of Darwin.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
This should have happened four years ago, Katie. This should
have happened a long time ago. They should be out
there drilling right now.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
There's probably a problem for the Labor government. Can we
know that their party don't support the gas and they
had to cancel their annual conference because they didn't want
the media storm. I'm not the sea your p who
support gas always have supported gas. It's just unfortunate that
it's taken so long.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You have just come through.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
E has has been so.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
For throwing support games.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Of course our party support the policy.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Look at the statements. Yes we suppodcast.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
That was pretty funny because we kept asking and you
kept saying we support. Well, do you what about thrashing.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Such a simple answer, Yes we do. And transition.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
The party contract fifteen years.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
With Tambora are the Labor Party?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No answer more uncertainty.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Well, the people of Johnson will judge you in a
couple of months.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Yeah, they will, and they have every right to because
that's what happens in seventy eight days.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Look, it is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It is all part of the discussion though about the
economy right, and earlier in the week we did speak
about some of the concerns that had been raised by
master builders. The latest abs residential building approval starter had
been released, with master Builders of the Northern Territory saying
that it confirms the urgent need for substantial government grants
to support the construction of new homes. So according to
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the CEO Ben Carter, that data shows that only twenty
four new dwellings were approved for construction in April this year.
That's down twenty nine percent on the March figures. The
figures confirmed that the territories on track to record one
of the worst years on record for the construction of
new private sector dwellings.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I think, well, there's never one single factor. I think
there's a few things at play. Interest Rates clearly impacted
absolutely to embark on a new home, but also the
confidence that people either do or don't have in living
and investing in the Northern Territory. I mean, I've had stories.
I think we've all had stories of people leaving because
of a variety of reasons, can't get employment, can't get
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the right kind of employment, or they just don't generally
feel safe in our community anymore. So, but I think
interest rates plays a big part. And you know, I
think the lack of confidence perhaps, I mean, I don't
know what they mean by getting the government to get
more grants. Are they talking about talking to.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Everyone?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, well, you know that's quite possible.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
But and the cost of living is also impacting lots
of people, you know, buying groes, buying eight dollar caps again,
you know, so people are more focused on that as well.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Crime.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
You know, interest rates. As you said, it's all impacting people.
They're fearful of potentially, you know, building or buying a
new home up here.
Speaker 9 (35:48):
And you remember a kind of being being ranked by
the concept last for five years in a row. I
think there were some new figures out yesterday saying that
now the state final amound by eight percent.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It was down.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
You know, we know that the building approvals is down
to the lowest in history and record keeping. And this
labor government haven't been in power for eight years now
almost eight years, and they've had nothing to actually grow
the economy, and ultimately the economy has gone backwards. And
we know EVA has come out and see the economy
is going great. And I think if you ask Territorians
out their mums and dads out there working hard, if
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they think the economy is going great, is going to
be No. Things are going backwards. We've got crime affecting people.
Even if you're a victim of crime, the cost of
that crime on businesses affects you because you have to
pay more of insurance and businesses and all.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
That sort of stuff stack to crime.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Maybe you should go Territory.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Body, you put it back in. You didn't put it
back in so soublic.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
It goes back to the economy and of the all
where the government want to talk about nothing and yet
the cop we've got our own home growth plan, which
will be if you're a new buy and you want
to build a home, you get fifty thousand dollars. If
you want to buy an existing home you get ten
thousand dollars, and the right size thing one you get
another thirty thousand dollars. And then there's a clear incentive to
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build a house in the Northern territory.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Don't you build a house? You stay here hopefully.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
And there's because you did. Outline, there has been a
lot of change in the way that households have spent
their money. In the last eighteen months, there's been twelve
interest rate rides where the interest rate cash row is
now four point three five percent. You can't get a
home loan for less than six percent eighteen months ago.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Two years ago, people are locked.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
In home loans for one point nine nine percent. I
know someone within my circle of friends who has just
come off their fixed rate and they are really hurting
now because it's gone up fifty to one hundred percent
just based on the reserve Bank's interest rate rider, So
that's really hurting our economy.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
And one of the biggest investments that you make is
a house.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Look, we are going to have to take a quick break.
You're listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.
It is the week that was. We have been talking
fishing quite a bit this week. Actually, we spoke about
the possibility of a jetty at East Point. Some of
you are all for it, others not so much. All
of us wondering where will the money come from? That
is the big question whenever we build something new. But
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we know the government have said that they're making the
territory's favorite pastime even better with nineteen point eight million
dollar investment into budget twenty twenty four for more wreck
fishing infrastructure.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
In the top end.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And it did get people talking throughout the week wondering
whether a jenny would be a good thing at East Point.
Some going oh, nah, you know this, No, you know
the gates don't even open past a certain time at
East Point. Others going yeah, this will be awesome.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
But I've listened to people on the radio and I
think if it's done properly and it's not well and
it's designed engenuity, designed properly. Given our tides and the
drift of sand and all that sort of stuff, I
reckon it can only be a benefit. And of course
they have to lock the gates. They lock the gates
because the bloody behavior of bad people. We can't get
that sorted out. Then perhaps the game seened over the years.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
You know, people go out and drive their cars or
try to you know, get hurt, the wallabies and all
sorts of things.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
So yeah, you always got to be yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
And the tides, as.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
You said, Keyser of one of the advantages for that
spot because from Dudley Point, which if people don't know,
it's you know, out to each point just past Peewee's.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
That the next main car park.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
If we build a jetty and we've got enough money
to do that, yes it is, you know nearly twenty
bucks in the wreck fishing bucket.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
Twenty dollars or twenty bucks, twenty bucks, twenty million bucks.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Sorry, twenty million dollars.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
If we can get it out and there's a big tide,
you should be able to get you know, maybe a TRAVALI,
maybe a snaper whatever it is. But I think on
your show, the other week. I was on earlier this week,
I should say, and the feedback came immediately that there
needs to be some toilets. Of course, you know it's
an ablution block in that area. And so what I
really want people to is get.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Online and have your saying, make sure we know that.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Just give us the information frame on this.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I know you're having consultations now, but how long until
actually possible?
Speaker 7 (39:53):
But give it a year or so. Give it a
year or so consultation, design, and then implementation. I got
home and my son, he doesn't engage with me that often.
He's a sixteen year old boy. He had somehow been
across this.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
I think he listens.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
Yeah, probably during school hours.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
He was asking me about She's like, Dad, he loves fishing.
He's like Dad, when's this jetty going to be ready?
Damn at Dudley point. And I was like, oh, mate,
nice to meet you again. I'm Dad, And yeah, away
we go. It's caught the imagination of my son, which
will hopefully catch the imagination all.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
This is the thing. I mean. Look. The other topic though,
that has been a big discussion point this week is
the gill nets and concerns being raised after footage had
emerged that allegedly shows commercial barrel munday gil nets strung
across wide stretches of remote Northern Territory waters where commercial
fishing is banned. It's once again sparked the discussion about
whether there needs to be a buyback of those licenses.
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We spoke yesterday on the show actually to Chris O'Brien
and Peter Palitis and had spoken about you know the
fact they say that you know that everybody sort of
wants this buy back to happen. Why is it not happened.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
What's the hold up? Joel?
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Well, FN are being very very good in their advocacy
for their stakeholders, and you know, there's sixty one thousand
people I think in the territory or identify as fishing
or fish ohs. We're working with them and I FIN
have put a very long list of requests to the
government and I'm sure they've put it to the opposition
as well. We're working through that. It's a really long
list and it's exhaustive to the to the point where
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the amount of work that we're doing.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
Through that list is just taking a little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You would have to say that's probably top of the list,
So particularly if you've got like illegal that illegal gill
netting happening at the moment.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Is pretty damning when you've got, you know, so many
sharks that are are all dead caught up.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
In these gillnets, and a lot of them.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I did a story a while back where they were
allegedly put in an illegal fishing spot and it had
moved and therefore gone into areas where wreckfishers go, and
they had to kind of take all of these nets
because they had all of this dead fish.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
And they buy okaych buying mass from the gouinating is
an issue, and we're working through that.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Will have a lot more to say on this in.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
The very saying a lot more to say, and that's
been saying a lot more for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
When are we going to get an answer?
Speaker 6 (42:12):
Well, you're going to have to watch this space. There's
no announcement today, Katie.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's what is it, Monday, maybe Monday.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Fifty nine.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
There's no announcement cand of be made.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
But we're working through it and there will be. And
that's because we've only got three months ago before.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
The election, so they're going to be a month guarded
from the election.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Watch this space.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
But surely it's not just an election issue though, right.
It's an issue now where it's where. It's something that
has been discussed. We've seen in other states and we'll
have to keep it brief, but we've seen in other
states that they're phasing it out in the likes of Queensland.
It you know, yes, it costs money, but it doesn't
cost you know, billions of dollars. It's actually it looks
as though it can be quite a reasonable thing to do.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
People will go elsewhere when if they're going fishing here
and can't catch anything, while did you come here when
you can go to Queensland where it is more regulated
and actually catch fish spend your money there. The red
fishing industry creates millions of dollars for us every single year,
so it's going to be such a huge loss of
people decided to go elsewhere.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
It's about a two hundred and seventy million dollar industry,
that's our calculations.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
And why would people come to the territory for the
million dollar barrow.
Speaker 11 (43:17):
Draw?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
You want to be able to catch it, right, you
don't want it to be guilty was.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
Down for the Daily the other week and I caught
a barro and for a bloke who grew up in
our springs, that's an achievement.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
And any update on whether you'll be getting your own boat.
Speaker 7 (43:31):
So oh, it's caused so much controversy and it's caused
a little bit of heated conversations in the household.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
My son again, he has a couple.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Of kids, the ones that don't talk to you.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
We'll talk to me again. Give it, give it a
few years.
Speaker 7 (43:45):
But my son has been texting me all the available boats,
so maybe he was listening to your show.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I reckon he was.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
I've had a five meter boat, a four meter boat,
a three meter all texted me by my son up here.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Now I thought it said twenty five.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
We're getting a numbers wrong.
Speaker 9 (44:08):
It's true, go back to fishing. There needs to be
some reform about that. We needs to be strict oversight
because if these illegal things are happening out there, inspecting
it and making sure there's oversight.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And it seems to be a very very limited budget.
Again in relation to that, look.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
We are going to have to wrap up for the morning,
but I do want to just remind everyone it's Georgie's
last day. She's leaving the Northern Territory going to Sky
News Melbourne. Georgy, George, you've done a phenomenal job in
the Northern Territory. Some of your reporting on police issues
and various other issues in the Northern Territory. I think
it has been really commendable. You've done a phenomenal job.
(44:43):
Thank you for all the time that you've spent with
us here on the show. We really appreciate it. You're
going to be.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Miss I'm very, very sad to leave.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
I think at the end of our probably burst into tears,
but it's honestly been the best of territories, an amazing
place here. Two years, it's been amazing. I'm very sad
to leave, but I will be back.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
It's the best.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
You haven't seen the last of me.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Good well, Jered Mailey, thank you so much for your
time this morning from the COLP.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Thank you everybody.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Georgy on our last day with nine News, Darwin, thank
you for your time this morning.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Fine, thank you everyone.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Thank you, Kesier Pure Independent, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Have you do community garden on Challers Circuits going open
day on Sunday morning, Good stuff, Sunday Morning Communications.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Rich all right, Well, look, we'll have this discussion afterwards,
so just text me and let me know right day.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
Thank you, and wasn't it a great Thursday nightsier when
the Tigers.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
Beat the Crows last night.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
What a way to start.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Thank you all so much for your time this morning.
Well a very good morning and welcome to the show.
It is Friday morning. It's time for the week that was.
And joining us in the studio this morning, Jared mainly
from the c LP.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We've got Georgie Dickerson her last day at nine News Darman.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good morning Georgie, sad and half happy. Oh good Friday
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Heading off to Sky News Melbourne.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
A very little bit of a colder climate, so I
think it's cold this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But as I get down to Melbourne think I'm going
to get a root shop.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think you are. It's going to be freezing for you.
But it's probably pretty cold out.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
In the room this morning.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Is it keazy?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Ap Pere morning? We're shivering in our little dummies out there.
Till about eighteen.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You were a bit cold.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Do you have to put a little jacket on that?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well you can. I didn't have it on last night,
but I think tonight I might.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Bones cute Joel about it for the Labour party this morning.
Good morning to your John.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Good morning Katy. I've actually got my jacket on this show.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
You've got a holes.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You're dressed up for.
Speaker 7 (01:01):
Us today it's not a suit. Let's not let's not
put too much sugar on top of this. But I
have got a jacket on and I am going to
Barunga and I heard the Yeah, it's going to be
like six degrees overnight. So if you're going down there,
take a DRIs of bone and a swag and an
extra beanie.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You'll need all of the above. It will definitely be cool.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I reckon, Beanie.
Speaker 8 (01:22):
You can Borroy if you want, John, please, because I
need something to put on the phone.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, I'll tell you what. There is a lot to
cover off, as I say, every single week, and unfortunately
not a good week when it comes to crime. We
know that there was quite a lot actually to cover off.
Monday morning, we did open the show with the news
that a man had been charged with murder after the
death of a woman in Coconut Grove. Police say that
at about twelve thirty on Saturday, they received reports of
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an unresponsive woman at a residence in Coconut Grove. Now
that forty three year old man presented himself to police
at the residence and was arrested. He appeared in court,
as I understand it, on Tuesday Meanwhile, we know that
across the northern suburbs and across Palmerston quite a bit
of property crime to grapple with. We caught up with
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Strikeforce Trident a little bit earlier in the week. They
told us I believe seventy five arrests across two weeks.
So the police working hard to try to keep things
under control. But it does seem as though these issues
of crime is something that we're again having to deal with. Georgie,
I understand you ran a story on last night or
nine News on this as well, didn't you.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, it's just terrible, how bad.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I guess the situation is escalating obviously that incident on
Saturday or Sunday. Sorry, it's all just escalating. And you
know we've got these brawls. I think there was a
brawl out in the front of the Anti News just
the other day, and so you know, these poor police
are doing everything they can, but you know what's being
done to fix it. And we even spoke to some
people after the property Council's survey went out that's talking
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about crime, and even just you know, talking to some
people on the streets, they're like, it's so sad. All
of these shops are closing their doors because of the
crime that we're seeing. And she said, you know, my
issue is I have too much stock because I just
hope that it's going to get better and it just
isn't well.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And I actually then noted as well, I was sent
some photos last night in fact of a business in
Culum Bay that was that had put up basically signs
saying that they're going to be closed in Culumbay. So
basically something closed temporarily closed due to recurrent break ins.
Due to the consistent break ins and threatening behavior, we've
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made the difficult decision to temporarily close our doors. So
that's Bung and Saul, I believe it's called they're at
Culum Bay.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And there was another one, Fin and Tonic, who only
opened I think about a month ago, and already they've
had their windows, their whole window smashed and grog stolens.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You've got a small business trying to against me.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I know.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I've seen multiple post from him on Facebook, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Getting the precinct ready, getting it all, making sure it
looks beautiful for the dry season, and then to keep
them as it's breaking from the kids and the kids
look very much.
Speaker 9 (04:11):
It's just a shame that this is just a recurring story.
You know, we talk about John Johns, we talk about
the beauty bar and Catherine shutting down, we talk about
the ride and the ant news the other day that
just seems to be no into it and the Labor
government have done nothing about it. And we know that
an election coming up in three months time and it
seems to be maybe five minutes to midnight. They're going
to try and make it it's not an issue and
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don't worry about it, or we're going to fix his
little things. But don't forget the Labor government had eight years.
They've been in power, this particular government of eight years,
and it's just been getting worse and worse.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And what are the Labor government have done.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
They've taken powers away from police, They've raised a responsibility,
they've taken the consequences away and open manatary sentencing, and
these little steps have all added up now and now
we're actually seeing the result of this Labor changing their
policies about making it easy to do crime and less
consequences for these kids.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And it's time to them make a change.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So you're the Minister for Small business. So have you
been down there to Cullumba and have a chat.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Have been visiting a number of business across the territory
over the last little while, and you're right, it's out
of it.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
It's out of control and we need to actually move on.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
And that's why Evilaul has been really good since she's
come in and it's been common sense and there's been investment.
We are trying to recruit more that's really difficult, right,
we know that it's really difficult to recruit more police
and they're doing a really really good job. I would
I would just ask, you know, the people who are
committing these please think about the impact you're having on
other people.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Because and this is no consequence.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Well there are consequences.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
We know there's consequence, but you've got to think about
the broader community and just stop doing it, like stop
doing and stop impacting our community.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I mean, these kids aren't listening to the radio station.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I mean, as much as we love listening to you k,
I don't think these needs are the ones listening to it.
They don't think that there's consequences because when they see
you know, their family members or other people around their
age committing these acts and going into businesses causing damage.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's just a game.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
The damage is caused because they want to gain access.
I mean, that's that's an obvious to get booze or
alcohol or same thing, cigarettes, whatever. But the tragic death
of the lady and coconut grow I mean to me,
it shows I mean, the perpetrator had a DEVO order
against him to stay away, so clearly there was history
in regards to his behavior, and sadly, what happens in
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this situation is it just escalates, and sadly, for that woman,
escalated and she's lost her life and he'll spend the
rest of his days in jail. So you know, people say, well,
what's the point of having these orders against you, because
clearly you can walk right through them. And he's done
the damage that he's done.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You know, it's terrible.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
She's probably a grandma, she've got children, all that sort
of stuff. But the good Tutor's violence that we see
not only just in our darktown but other towns and
places in the territory is because of what we've said
is they know that there will be no consequences. They
just want their they just want their sugar hit. So
they just smash and grab door rush and then it
is out of control and there are no consequences. There
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are some consequences, I get you that job. There are
some consequences, but they're enough. There's not enough, and they're
not strong enough.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well. The other part of this discussion, of course, is,
as had been touched on, my understanding is that Matt
Cunningham from Sky News is reporting on quite a big
brawl that happened outside of the NT News yesterday. Now
I hope Matt doesn't mind me saying, but from my
discussions with him, my understanding is that there had been
a large group of people over recent days that had
been sitting sort of drinking around that area, and then
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by yesterday that behavior, by three o'clock in the afternoon,
had turned into a big brawl. It had turned into
a dangerous behavior, which therein lies the question, you know,
should we be just allowing this, you know, this sort
of camping around or sitting around in the city. And
I know that from all accounts, we keep being told
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that it is not legal to sit around and drink,
and the police really can't. You know, when criminal behavior
then unfolds or where there is laws broken, is when
the police can obviously go and make those arrests. But
if people are sitting around and they're drinking there, and
they're languishing in that area for quite some time, it's
inevitably going to wind up a situation where too much
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alcohol is consumed and potentially something bad's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Let me finish.
Speaker 9 (08:21):
This is a classic example of a where in two
thousand and nine, and I'm talking about the too colon
the law, where the Labor government changed the law to
make it so it wasn't offense to drink within two
caves of a licensed premises.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And we know that.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
Because their own three year liquor review says it's not
an offense. So there's the evidence there because I know
there's been discussion about oh it is legal, it's not legal,
but the government's own reviews that it wasn't. So now
what the police can't do is be proactive and go
to those groups of people and go, hey, look, you're
all sitting here, there's a dv A. Lets ge everyone's
name and workout are you breaching bail? Are you breaching
pro are you breaching a DVO? Have you got a
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history of alcohol abuse? After drinking, so they can't currently
do that. They can't go there and say what's your
name list? I want to do a check to make
sure there's a breach of the finished but it hasn't
actually fixed the problem. And the problem is that the
police can't be proactive. We know the police do a
wonderful job, but the hands are tied because of one
(09:11):
the inaction of the consequences. But let's focus on that
to klaw which is changed while government in twenty ninety.
We've got to make sure that we know this is
a direct result of the labor government watering down the laws,
and now the police can't be proactive and stop those
groups of drinking. And let's talk about domestic violence, because
someone's you know it, gets gets a sold or even
murdered in a situation just recently. So the police can't
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be proactive and say, okay, you know your name is
jured Maylee. Look on their records and hey there's a DBO.
You can't be with Georgia because when you because you drink,
you can't it could be domestic violence.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They can't do that, and I think there was wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You can only then they can only intervene when they
see you know, people start to fight and things like that.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know, that's when it's too.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Late committed pice once the committed in defense. Police got
all the power in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
They can do one it's correct, Like is it a
situation where the where the where the police can't actually
go and you know, well, I think that.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Police can be proactive, and they are proactive. I also
see Laraki Nation being proactive.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
In their All they really do is tip out the alcohol.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
And that's law that we've changed. We've actually just changed
that law. I mean there is the new wanding laws.
There's a laws of tipouts on buses now with transit office.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
It doesn't stop the behavior because then people just go
and get more of.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
It, So it doesn't stop the behavior of someone's intoxicated. No,
but it's also giving additional powers to transit officer to
tip the alcohol which will reduce the downstream harm of
people getting intoxicated even.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
That's drinking.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And had discussions I've had discussions over months as well
over the last few months where and I've said this
on here on numerous occasions where I have arsenal Northern
Territory police when it comes to some of the domestic
violence incidents that we are seeing. How often are we
then seeing domestic violence on our streets in public places?
And it is something that we are seeing often. So
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to me, you know, I understand that this. You know
that domestic violence can happen behind closed doors, that can
happen anywhere. I understand that assaults can happen anywhere. I
understand that, you know, laws can be broken anywhere. But
when people are drinking in public places and there and
you know they're you're seeing them drinking in a public
place over a period of days, you know, and then
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it winds up in a massive brawl that happens. You know,
for this example, outside of the Northern Territory news, you
just got to ask yourself. I think somewhere things are
breaking down, right because we are, we're not intervening fast
enough broken.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
But there is another question is clearly these people are
buying alcohol from a bottle shop, so they've obviously got
a driver's license, they're obviously not on the BDR, or
whether they're getting secondary supply from somewhere because I know
during oh what was it.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
During COVID, there was a real issue around.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
And there was there was a car that was loading
up from Bachelor driving through the pubs, picking up booze
along the way, and they're coming to town and I think, yeah,
that's his name, Tony from the noon Ma pub. I
might have spoken to you about it and others.
Speaker 10 (12:00):
So there's I think to remember issue of soundry supply,
because if a lot of people are being arrested for
this disorderly conduct or violence in the streets, they automatically
best I understand, go on to the band drinker's register
if they're charged.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
So it's not breaking, it's broken. Yeah, And we even
had a small incident out at the Kulinger shops yesterday
wasn't bad, but there's a group of people who'd come
from out of town somewhere, and there was one bloke
came up to me with a piece of paper, unwounded
and said, my name's Son, you know. Can you give
me some small change? And I said no. I said,
but if you're hungry, I'll buy your sandwich. And he
got started to get a little bit antsy, like I
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don't want my words, I don't want the bloody sandwich,
I want the money. And then a couple of blokes
coming in just came over and said, hey, mate, just
back off. Yeah yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know, you try.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I mean, I'm quite happy to do that if someone's hungby,
you know, you know, I know it's humbuggying all that
sort of stuff. I get that, butohol, yeah, I get
all that too. But my point is these people are
clearly not from around I just know. I didn't get
to ask where they're from, but they're from out of town.
But it's not just it's not just the city areas.
It's now starting to sneak out into this way.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
We get regular, regular, regular comments and people getting in
contact with us, even Peter this morning. Katio was driving
along the Stuart Highway yesterday near Yarrawonga. There was a
speed camera set up at the location, just fifty meters
away from a group of people consuming alcohol. When's the
government going to get their priorities right. I've got nothing
against finding hard working taxpayers for speeding, but isn't it
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important as well to make sure that you're removing people
who are drinking publicly and are highly intoxicated right across
the road from a highway.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I know exactly where that cop car sits. Yep, and
the people do sit in go in the long grass.
It's just pay And they crossed that road and someone
already has been cleaned up on that road.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, and this was the other part of the discussion.
People walk, yeah, like this is the other part of
the discussion. Our road toll is so high, the number
of people being the number of pedestrians being struck right now,
like there is so so many on going on flowing,
I should say issues as a result of the alcohol
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that's been consumed.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
About alcoholism and being addicted to alcohol, you know, and
that is definitely a problem. And yet this lab of government,
in their wisdom of shut down to the voluntary alcohol
rebooting one in our springs and one and dow and
so there's nowhere to go if you want to go
to a cleaning up shield or a serving up shehelter.
The Stable government are going to shut them both down
so as well as watering down the laws which impact
our lifestyle, because our lost style should be that you
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can walk around and enjoy the dull and whether like
it's beautiful today, or walk to work.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Whatever you might be.
Speaker 9 (14:34):
But people aren't doing that because they're worried about getting
abused at eight o'clock in the morning buying intoxicated people
sitting around drinking and the spot keysy, I go past
it on know, is that what you're talking about. You
often see lots of people they're drinking and you see
green cans all over the joint, and what is the priority,
like begunment?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Are they doing that? It doesn't look like they are.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
But what they are doing, you're shutting down voluntary alcohol
treatment programs because they can't handle the problem.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I mean, we've talked about this. I mean I don't
begrudge and I don't think anyone begrudges people coming into
the big city and the bright lights. And I know
lots of people say, oh, they come in for medical
treatment and their family comes to and then they stay
with well, you know, lots of people come in for
medical treatment, but they don't hang around in the in
the suburbs causing trouble. So I think a lot of
a lot of it also is people come in and
away from their communities or their townships because they're bored,
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job like that.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But there's also situations where they're actually coming into town
because there's violence in their communities as well. And I've
spoken to women before in Yeah, that's right, Like in
parap I've spoken, you know, my family has a property there.
I've spoken to a lady before with a small baby
who has said that she is in town because there's
violence in her community. You know, was sleeping sort of
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under the awning of an area of a property that
we've got. And you know, my husband and I will
often say, and he will often say to people, look,
I've got no worries with his sleeping there, but please
just keep the area tidy when you leave. And you know,
when someone's genuinely fleeing a violent situation or a dangerous situation,
I've got no issue with that. But what I've got
an issue with is people drinking publicly in public places,
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you know, and then getting up to really bad behavior
and the and all of the on flow issues that
we're seeing, and we.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Need people sit out at the front of bottle shops,
you know, and say why don't the bottle shop workers
not serve them? But you know, bottle shop workers are
too scared to say no, they're not.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
On the BDR or if there's not a reason why
they can't serve them, then, you know, But then.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Even if they're intoxicated.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know, these bottle shop workers are young, you know,
first job kids that are just out of school or
you know in year twelve. Of course they're just going
to give them the alcohol even if they are intoxicated,
because you're too scared that they're going to retaliate and
they're not just going to go away if they're drunk
and intoxicated and still want that alcohol. And so I
feel like that's another thing that there needs to be
more police around these bottle shops so that if the
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situation does happen, they can step in and you know,
help these kids.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
Well, look we're going to take people doing the right thing,
but they get to go and buy it and bring
it out there.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So you know you've got a shop.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
People are doing it tough, but they are working, really
are and they do a great job.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, we are going to take a quick run. Yeah,
we are going to take quick break. You're listening to
Mix one O four nine's three sixty. There is a
lot to cover off on this morning. You are listening
to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. As I said,
there is a lot to discuss this morning. If you've
just joined us in the Studio, Jared Maylee, Georgie Dickerson, Kesiapuric,
and Joel Bowden. Now earlier this week or towards the
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end of last week. In fact, late Friday afternoon, the
Anti Discrimination Commissioner issued a press release saying that it
has been reported that the Anti Anti Anti Discrimination Commissioner
is urgently investigating or conducting a review of systemic racism
within the Northern Territory Police Force. Now, he said this
is misleading and incorrect. The Anti Discrimination Commissioner has been
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approached by the Attorney General to undertake a racism review. However,
for the past few months he's been in negotiations with
the Attorney General's Department, the Attorney General and the Minister
for Police concerning the necessary resources to conduct such a review.
To date, the funding put forward to the ADC does
not stretch to enable the setup of that designated project
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team and carriage of such a review in its full cycle.
Now I asked the Chief Minister Evil Awler about this
earlier this week. She said one hundred and seventy million dollars.
One hundred seventy thousand dollars goodness million. I was going
to say one hundred and seventy thousand dollars has been
set aside for this review. Now. In the statement by
the Anti Discrimination Commissioner, he says that in light of
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the fact that considering the government's twenty twenty four budget
invests five hundred and seventy million dollars into police with
four hundred and forty five million dollars over five years
for an additional two hundred officers, it's timely that the
Northern Territory Police Force consider investing in a racism review
within the ADC. Now, within the Anti Discrimination Commission.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Katie, how many agencies and people have to review police
Like I'm getting a bit fed up with this. You know,
ICs meant to be antidiscriminator and sorry, Independent Commission Against
Coruption is meant to be investigating systemic racism in the
anti police force, which I don't believe there is, and
now we've got this Anti Discrimination Commission wants to investigate it.
How many people? How many body reviews? To actually leave
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the police are probably doing something internally as.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Well, Commission Murphy.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Commission Murphy is doing something.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So money could be spent better getting more cops here.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well, the thing is just just because they've got another
five hundred million to get more police and more resources
and cars and whatever. It doesn't mean I'll just cut
off another one hundred thousand he had to give to
the Antidiscrimination Commission exactly.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
General has put that one hundred and seven cut.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Your cloth to suit the suit. If you've got one
hundred and seventy thousand, well maybe instead of four projects officers,
you get two and you don't do a massive review
that takes all around the countryside, if not the world.
You just focus on some key elements of a review
and get on with it.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Look, the thing I guess, and the question that I've
got is what is the end game? You know, what
are we what is there's going to achieve in terms
of because we have got the cor inquest obviously that
we're waiting for the outcome of that, So what is
the end game now? I would think that the end
game is to make sure that the Northern Territory Police
Force is doing everything that they can to ensure that
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there is not racism within the Northern Territory Police And
I know that there has been evidence obviously put forward
throughout that coronial inquest. Obviously comments made by Michael Murphy
as well in terms of you know what had happened
about a week or so ago. We've also now got
a situation where you've got a pont the Aboriginal organizations
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in the Northern Territory demanding an apology from the government
and the top police for denying systemic racism in the
Northern Territory Police Force.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Now what are they going to apologize for? I mean,
what does that coalition want from Commissioner Murphy, Chief Minister,
Police minister. Well, I'm sorry on behalf of the officers.
So they want to they want them to apologize on
behalf of someone else's behavior.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, they said, I mean, they've said the situations unaccepted
Aboriginal people to turn it to the police for safety
protection and understanding it points.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Of course it's unacceptable. But you know, when is enough enough?
So let's assume that they all apologize. Is that going
to be enough for them? Or they're going to come
back and say, oh, well, we don't think your apologies
sincee it.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
You know, it needs to be I feel like if
there's an apology, it needs to be steps forward as
to what we're going to do.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Now it's not for the sake of saying, oh, I'm
sorry it happened. Well, it happened, you know, and all
these reviews that are underway.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Too many reviews, and people are sick of it.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Basically, we are sick of it.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Now.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
We need recruitment and then more police, and.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We also want more Indigenous people in our police would assume,
you know. And that's absolutely something that I think is fundamental.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And also the coronal inquest is going to come back
with recommendations and obviously these awards are going to be
part of that final report from the coroner, so no
doubt that is also in some way a little bit
of it. I mean, it's quite an extensive review really,
it's been going on for years now, but she will
no doubt have parts in there that say, this is
what I would recommend the police force do from now,
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given this evidence that I have seen in this in quest.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
Because remember these allegations flying around and harming the police. Know,
these police officers do a great job. My dad was
a police officer for a long time, so I've got
a first hand are hard work and over the more
than they do above it and they required so you know,
this is really an example Labor government just doing nothing,
no real leadership, just to nip it in the butt.
Review after review do this do that. We just need
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to get on with governing in the Northern Territory. The
police do a great job and this Labor government this
is another example of inaction from them.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Rumors flying around.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
Things aren't happening because the Labor government to show no
leadership and dealing with this problem.
Speaker 11 (22:39):
And that's shown very strong leaders has been six months
the money that's going six months ago.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
What do you want them to do during We want.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Some leadership here to stop these rumors flying around in
it in the butt because the police are getting effected
here the hard line front.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Feel like the rumors, what rumors are you talking about?
I feel like we've seen they're not really rumors. That's
been said in the inquest. You know this is fact.
These are the awards.
Speaker 9 (23:15):
So but you know that was in twenty and sixteen.
You know, I agree what Kisa said. I don't think
the systemic racism in the police. I think you know
they're doing their best is stamp it out and these
rewards were twenty and sixteen.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
For memory, I could be.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
Corrected on that, but moving forward, the police need the support.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
We know that.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
There's been three surveys from the Police Association say that
the government don't support them over the last year or
so and the government just don't support them to move.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
The riement though. Really, I think of Michael Murphy has
been as well since taking on the role as the
Police Commissioner is to rebuild the morale within the Northern
Territory Police Force.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Now she's been doing an admirable job at doing I
think Commissioner Murphy has been doing a very good job
and there has been some strong leadership from Eva Laula
and it's been common sense. And then what we've sa
and everyone knows the numbers now there's going to be
two hundred extra police.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Right when they to get here. That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
We numbers are great to talk about, but you know,
people need them here now, not in five to ten
years time. I know it takes a long time to
get the cops here. But funding is all well and
good until that.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Actually, twenty three million dollars for police this year.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
So the funding is open the next five one. We
all know that.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
And recruitment takes a little bit of time, yes, and
we are trying to recruit as quickly as possible. There's
also a national recruitment drive for police. There's a skill
shortage and it's also in police, so we're competing against
every other jurisdiction. I think it's actually in New South
Wales at the moment, who are advertising in the South
Australian newspapers saying south of astrain and police come to
New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
We absolutely need the police now. I mean earlier in
the week I caught up with Alexi. His goddaughter was
assaulted outside of Royal Darwin Hospital earlier this week about
ten pm by an unknown person. He tells me they've
still not heard back, you know, they've still not had
a police officer out there to go and speak to
that seventeen year old girl who was allegedly assaulted. You know,
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to me, that really encapsulates the whole issue that we've
got in the Northern territory right now. When something really serious,
when something frightening like that happens, you know what you
what you expect is it when you call the police.
And it's not a criticism of the police, it's a
criticism that we don't have enough of them that you know,
you expect that if something horrible like that happened, that
you're able to get somebody out there to speak to you,
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particularly a young person like that.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
It shows to me that it's not that the police
are ignoring that no might of that young person. It's
just that there are more serious things that demand their attention.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
We are some written queris about and when the answers
come back, there's two thirds of the police officers, you know,
when you've got someone in the back of the van,
is just dealing with the drunk person, running them around,
picking someone off and take.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Them back to the watchhouse, waiting back.
Speaker 9 (25:50):
Three times you see a police officer in someone in
a paddy way, it's not because they have a resident
of committing a crime. Is because they've picked them up
on the streets because they're intoxicated and they're going to
take them to the sobering up, shot up to the hospital,
or put them in protective custody. So, like you said, George,
an hour and a half of their time is running
around because it goes back to that drinking in a
public place. Were lament change the laws, so they can't
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do anything about other than tip it out, which doesn't work.
So these people become intoxicated, and then they become a
police problem because they're either intoxicated, color graphs themselves or
committing crime.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So you stam it right back to the very basic.
Speaker 9 (26:21):
It goes back to the labor government changing the laws
to make it easier to drink in a public place.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
The police have to pick up the scraps.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Around correct, and we cho to make it easier to drink,
and alcohol is.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
A massive issue in our ninety in our community.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
The domestic violence scourge on our community is just a
disgrace and we should all be ashamed of it. And
the police do the best that they possibly can. They
are stretched, and I think there's Georgie to your point
about recruiting. I think there's sixty or seventy graduating in
the next month or so.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
The graduous we need people that experienced police we can't have.
And obviously it's good to have these graduates as gds
out on the beat, but when you've got place like
Alice Springs, Darwin and even more remote communities that need
that experienced policing, you know, these young coppers might go
out there. Some of them we met, they looked like
they were still in high school, they're so young, and
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so they don't have that stuff experience.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Like this year, we do have to start with graduates
so that they can free up constables and they can
free up the hierarchy and give us an opportunity. But
we are recruiting as vigorously as we can, and I
think again there's going to be sixty or seventy graduates
in the next month or so.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We're going to take a very quick break coming your way.
Next we are going to be speaking a bit more
about the economy. If you've just joined us this morning,
We've got Joel Boden, Keseyer Puric, Georgie Dickerson, and also
Jared Mayley in the studio with us. Now, look, there
is a lot to cover off. I'm keen to talk
more about the economy, with the fact that tam Boren
has been given the green light, as well as the
fact that Master Builders had raised some concerns earlier this
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week in the case of those new builds. But we've
been receiving a few messages over the last twenty four
hours about Territory Day. We've been contacted by some territorians
who are quite worried after hearing that Territory Day celebrations
could be moved from Mindle to the waterfront. Now, yesterday
we received a text message that said Territory Day is
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canceled at Mindle Beach. Just to elaborate on the cancelation,
approximately one hundred and twenty businesses have been left in
limbo without being able to trade at the traditional fireworks
day only three weeks out. This person says that they
were notified about it on Monday and that they have
been told that it's moving to the waterfront. Joel, I
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don't know whether this is accurate or what the go
is here.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Neither do I, Okay, but I'll tell you what. There
will be bangers going off on the first of July.
There will be I think crackers going off everywhere around
the territory, and the government again will fund an event.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I'm not across the details of the event, and I'm not.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
It is usually something that happens at Mindle Beach.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Why does everything have to go to the bloody water front?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, no, we're being told that it's had to move,
like from some of the people that have been in
contact with us, the vendors that have been in contact
with us, that there has been some kind of of
pulling off the event from Mindle Beach due to something
to do with the Aboriginal Protection Authority. I don't know
exactly what the situation is bloody twenty years. Yeah, so look,
we're trying to get to the bottom Faly pop out
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of and this is the thing we're trying to get
to the bottom of. And that's you know, that is
a look fundamentally, there's going to be concerns if it
is being moved by some of those markets still vendors.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Okay, I'm happy to rent out my mother's hunderda Capetti.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
There's plenty of let people come out there.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Plenty room for parking. I'll get all my sisters to
put a stall on. Oh yeah, what about the.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Poor animals out there? They might be scared.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I would lock them all up.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
But look with the animals on cracking night, Yeah, maybe
we should stick to the city.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yes, yeah, now look on it exactly what the goal is.
But that is that's something that we have been contacted
about by listeners. So obviously you know there are quite
a few people that are worried about this. If they
have got.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Well, it'll be the responsibility of the minister who's in
charge of work Safe and We're Safe, I think is
in the Attorney General's department, So Chancy Paike should have answers.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well, look, we'll try and find out. I don't know, Joel.
I don't know whether you know anything about it.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
I'm not across the detail as in when and where
it's going to happen.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
But what I can say is that it's going to
go off.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
There will be.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Banglers and crackers going off on the first of July.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
We know that's a territory to reach, Maybe not so much.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
So for those businesses they're down there, mintal businesses on
all of the markets, so many people come down, especially
on crack and night.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
How do we not know where it's going to be held.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
We're talking uncertainty again, Will they become uncertainly the economy,
uncertain crime, you know, uncertainty in relation to almost anything
you talk about in Northern Territory, and now we're talking
about uncertainty of fire cracker night.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Holy moly, you just.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Heard me say it's going to go off and there'll
be bangers and crackers everywhere.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
There's no certainly about it.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
That we have.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Will is a real concern if they can't have that
influx of people and instead of the waterfront, they don't
have the space for as many stalls as there would
be beach.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
So look, we are trying to Yeah, we're trying to
get to the bottom of it. Look, we have Crystal
has been in contact with Minister Brent Potter's office now
it says there is a quote from Brent Potter saying
that the Northern Territory Government's finalizing plans to deliver the
biggest and best Territory Day yet with an exciting program
of events to be released. There will be no changes
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to everyone's ability to buy or sell fireworks, so nothing
there in terms of the location. We are due to
catch up with Brent Potter on Tuesday morning, so hopefully
we'll have some further detail at that point in time.
But yeah, look, I'll be really interested to find out
a bit more about this to our listeners out there
this morning. If you do have further information in terms
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of if you are somebody that's got a market stall,
or if you are somebody that you know that is
impacted by this, if you've been told further detail, feel
free to get contact with us but look, you know
that's I guess part of the discussion this morning. The
other part of the discussion about the economy that I
do want to get to in some really good news
will Tamboran well for some some who are against fracking,
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maybe not so much, or some who are against gas,
maybe not so much. But Tamboran Resources has passed the
final green tape needed to frack the Beterloo sub basin
after being granted environmental approvals to begin that drilling. According
to a report in the NT News, the Northern Territory
Government approved Tamboran's environmental management plan to construct four exploration
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and appraisal sites and undertake drilling and flow testing of
up to fifteen wells at the Natural Gas field five
one hundred kilometers southeast of Darwin.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
This should have happened four years ago, Katie. This should
have happened a long time ago. They should be out
there drilling right now.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
There's probably a problem for the Labor government. Can we
know that their party don't support the gas and they
had to cancel their annual conference because they didn't want
the media storm. I'm not the sea your p who
support gas always have supported gas. It's just unfortunate that
it's taken so long.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You have just come through.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
E has has been so.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
For throwing support games.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Of course our party support the policy.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Look at the statements. Yes we suppodcast.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
That was pretty funny because we kept asking and you
kept saying we support. Well, do you what about thrashing.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Such a simple answer, Yes we do. And transition.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
The party contract fifteen years.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
With Tambora are the Labor Party?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No answer more uncertainty.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Well, the people of Johnson will judge you in a
couple of months.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Yeah, they will, and they have every right to because
that's what happens in seventy eight days.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Look, it is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It is all part of the discussion though about the
economy right, and earlier in the week we did speak
about some of the concerns that had been raised by
master builders. The latest abs residential building approval starter had
been released, with master Builders of the Northern Territory saying
that it confirms the urgent need for substantial government grants
to support the construction of new homes. So according to
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the CEO Ben Carter, that data shows that only twenty
four new dwellings were approved for construction in April this year.
That's down twenty nine percent on the March figures. The
figures confirmed that the territories on track to record one
of the worst years on record for the construction of
new private sector dwellings.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I think, well, there's never one single factor. I think
there's a few things at play. Interest Rates clearly impacted
absolutely to embark on a new home, but also the
confidence that people either do or don't have in living
and investing in the Northern Territory. I mean, I've had stories.
I think we've all had stories of people leaving because
of a variety of reasons, can't get employment, can't get
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the right kind of employment, or they just don't generally
feel safe in our community anymore. So, but I think
interest rates plays a big part. And you know, I
think the lack of confidence perhaps, I mean, I don't
know what they mean by getting the government to get
more grants. Are they talking about talking to.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Everyone?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, well, you know that's quite possible.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
But and the cost of living is also impacting lots
of people, you know, buying groes, buying eight dollar caps again,
you know, so people are more focused on that as well.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Crime.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
You know, interest rates. As you said, it's all impacting people.
They're fearful of potentially, you know, building or buying a
new home up here.
Speaker 9 (35:48):
And you remember a kind of being being ranked by
the concept last for five years in a row. I
think there were some new figures out yesterday saying that
now the state final amound by eight percent.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It was down.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
You know, we know that the building approvals is down
to the lowest in history and record keeping. And this
labor government haven't been in power for eight years now
almost eight years, and they've had nothing to actually grow
the economy, and ultimately the economy has gone backwards. And
we know EVA has come out and see the economy
is going great. And I think if you ask Territorians
out their mums and dads out there working hard, if
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they think the economy is going great, is going to
be No. Things are going backwards. We've got crime affecting people.
Even if you're a victim of crime, the cost of
that crime on businesses affects you because you have to
pay more of insurance and businesses and all.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
That sort of stuff stack to crime.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Maybe you should go Territory.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Body, you put it back in. You didn't put it
back in so soublic.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
It goes back to the economy and of the all
where the government want to talk about nothing and yet
the cop we've got our own home growth plan, which
will be if you're a new buy and you want
to build a home, you get fifty thousand dollars. If
you want to buy an existing home you get ten
thousand dollars, and the right size thing one you get
another thirty thousand dollars. And then there's a clear incentive to
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build a house in the Northern territory.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Don't you build a house? You stay here hopefully.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
And there's because you did. Outline, there has been a
lot of change in the way that households have spent
their money. In the last eighteen months, there's been twelve
interest rate rides where the interest rate cash row is
now four point three five percent. You can't get a
home loan for less than six percent eighteen months ago.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Two years ago, people are locked.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
In home loans for one point nine nine percent. I
know someone within my circle of friends who has just
come off their fixed rate and they are really hurting
now because it's gone up fifty to one hundred percent
just based on the reserve Bank's interest rate rider, So
that's really hurting our economy.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
And one of the biggest investments that you make is
a house.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Look, we are going to have to take a quick break.
You're listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.
It is the week that was. We have been talking
fishing quite a bit this week. Actually, we spoke about
the possibility of a jetty at East Point. Some of
you are all for it, others not so much. All
of us wondering where will the money come from? That
is the big question whenever we build something new. But
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we know the government have said that they're making the
territory's favorite pastime even better with nineteen point eight million
dollar investment into budget twenty twenty four for more wreck
fishing infrastructure.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
In the top end.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And it did get people talking throughout the week wondering
whether a jenny would be a good thing at East Point.
Some going oh, nah, you know this, No, you know
the gates don't even open past a certain time at
East Point. Others going yeah, this will be awesome.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
But I've listened to people on the radio and I
think if it's done properly and it's not well and
it's designed engenuity, designed properly. Given our tides and the
drift of sand and all that sort of stuff, I
reckon it can only be a benefit. And of course
they have to lock the gates. They lock the gates
because the bloody behavior of bad people. We can't get
that sorted out. Then perhaps the game seened over the years.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
You know, people go out and drive their cars or
try to you know, get hurt, the wallabies and all
sorts of things.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
So yeah, you always got to be yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
And the tides, as.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
You said, Keyser of one of the advantages for that
spot because from Dudley Point, which if people don't know,
it's you know, out to each point just past Peewee's.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
That the next main car park.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
If we build a jetty and we've got enough money
to do that, yes it is, you know nearly twenty
bucks in the wreck fishing bucket.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
Twenty dollars or twenty bucks, twenty bucks, twenty million bucks.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Sorry, twenty million dollars.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
If we can get it out and there's a big tide,
you should be able to get you know, maybe a TRAVALI,
maybe a snaper whatever it is. But I think on
your show, the other week. I was on earlier this week,
I should say, and the feedback came immediately that there
needs to be some toilets. Of course, you know it's
an ablution block in that area. And so what I
really want people to is get.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Online and have your saying, make sure we know that.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Just give us the information frame on this.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I know you're having consultations now, but how long until
actually possible?
Speaker 7 (39:53):
But give it a year or so. Give it a
year or so consultation, design, and then implementation. I got
home and my son, he doesn't engage with me that often.
He's a sixteen year old boy. He had somehow been
across this.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
I think he listens.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
Yeah, probably during school hours.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
He was asking me about She's like, Dad, he loves fishing.
He's like Dad, when's this jetty going to be ready?
Damn at Dudley point. And I was like, oh, mate,
nice to meet you again. I'm Dad, And yeah, away
we go. It's caught the imagination of my son, which
will hopefully catch the imagination all.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
This is the thing. I mean. Look. The other topic though,
that has been a big discussion point this week is
the gill nets and concerns being raised after footage had
emerged that allegedly shows commercial barrel munday gil nets strung
across wide stretches of remote Northern Territory waters where commercial
fishing is banned. It's once again sparked the discussion about
whether there needs to be a buyback of those licenses.
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We spoke yesterday on the show actually to Chris O'Brien
and Peter Palitis and had spoken about you know the
fact they say that you know that everybody sort of
wants this buy back to happen. Why is it not happened.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
What's the hold up? Joel?
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Well, FN are being very very good in their advocacy
for their stakeholders, and you know, there's sixty one thousand
people I think in the territory or identify as fishing
or fish ohs. We're working with them and I FIN
have put a very long list of requests to the
government and I'm sure they've put it to the opposition
as well. We're working through that. It's a really long
list and it's exhaustive to the to the point where
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the amount of work that we're doing.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
Through that list is just taking a little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You would have to say that's probably top of the list,
So particularly if you've got like illegal that illegal gill
netting happening at the moment.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Is pretty damning when you've got, you know, so many
sharks that are are all dead caught up.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
In these gillnets, and a lot of them.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I did a story a while back where they were
allegedly put in an illegal fishing spot and it had
moved and therefore gone into areas where wreckfishers go, and
they had to kind of take all of these nets
because they had all of this dead fish.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
And they buy okaych buying mass from the gouinating is
an issue, and we're working through that.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Will have a lot more to say on this in.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
The very saying a lot more to say, and that's
been saying a lot more for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
When are we going to get an answer?
Speaker 6 (42:12):
Well, you're going to have to watch this space. There's
no announcement today, Katie.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's what is it, Monday, maybe Monday.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Fifty nine.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
There's no announcement cand of be made.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
But we're working through it and there will be. And
that's because we've only got three months ago before.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
The election, so they're going to be a month guarded
from the election.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Watch this space.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
But surely it's not just an election issue though, right.
It's an issue now where it's where. It's something that
has been discussed. We've seen in other states and we'll
have to keep it brief, but we've seen in other
states that they're phasing it out in the likes of Queensland.
It you know, yes, it costs money, but it doesn't
cost you know, billions of dollars. It's actually it looks
as though it can be quite a reasonable thing to do.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
People will go elsewhere when if they're going fishing here
and can't catch anything, while did you come here when
you can go to Queensland where it is more regulated
and actually catch fish spend your money there. The red
fishing industry creates millions of dollars for us every single year,
so it's going to be such a huge loss of
people decided to go elsewhere.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
It's about a two hundred and seventy million dollar industry,
that's our calculations.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
And why would people come to the territory for the
million dollar barrow.
Speaker 11 (43:17):
Draw?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
You want to be able to catch it, right, you
don't want it to be guilty was.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
Down for the Daily the other week and I caught
a barro and for a bloke who grew up in
our springs, that's an achievement.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
And any update on whether you'll be getting your own boat.
Speaker 7 (43:31):
So oh, it's caused so much controversy and it's caused
a little bit of heated conversations in the household.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
My son again, he has a couple.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Of kids, the ones that don't talk to you.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
We'll talk to me again. Give it, give it a
few years.
Speaker 7 (43:45):
But my son has been texting me all the available boats,
so maybe he was listening to your show.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I reckon he was.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
I've had a five meter boat, a four meter boat,
a three meter all texted me by my son up here.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Now I thought it said twenty five.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
We're getting a numbers wrong.
Speaker 9 (44:08):
It's true, go back to fishing. There needs to be
some reform about that. We needs to be strict oversight
because if these illegal things are happening out there, inspecting
it and making sure there's oversight.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And it seems to be a very very limited budget.
Again in relation to that, look.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
We are going to have to wrap up for the morning,
but I do want to just remind everyone it's Georgie's
last day. She's leaving the Northern Territory going to Sky
News Melbourne. Georgy, George, you've done a phenomenal job in
the Northern Territory. Some of your reporting on police issues
and various other issues in the Northern Territory. I think
it has been really commendable. You've done a phenomenal job.
(44:43):
Thank you for all the time that you've spent with
us here on the show. We really appreciate it. You're
going to be.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Miss I'm very, very sad to leave.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
I think at the end of our probably burst into tears,
but it's honestly been the best of territories, an amazing
place here. Two years, it's been amazing. I'm very sad
to leave, but I will be back.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
It's the best.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
You haven't seen the last of me.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Good well, Jered Mailey, thank you so much for your
time this morning from the COLP.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Thank you everybody.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Georgy on our last day with nine News, Darwin, thank
you for your time this morning.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Fine, thank you everyone.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Thank you, Kesier Pure Independent, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Have you do community garden on Challers Circuits going open
day on Sunday morning, Good stuff, Sunday Morning Communications.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Rich all right, Well, look, we'll have this discussion afterwards,
so just text me and let me know right day.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
Thank you, and wasn't it a great Thursday nightsier when
the Tigers.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
Beat the Crows last night.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
What a way to start.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Thank you all so much for your time this morning.
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